SHNEAKO - June 26, 2026


SNEAKO interviews Omar Suleiman: Day of Ashura and Palestine Resistance


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00:00:00.000 There's a difference between hating death and fearing death to a point that you'll sell
00:00:03.680 your hereafter for your world. So Muslims should not fear death to a point that they love this
00:00:09.600 world too much and they love this life too much and they're deceived by this world, they're deluded 0.96
00:00:14.600 by this world. But like the natural part of I don't want to die, like that's natural, like no
00:00:19.520 one wants to die, right? It's not a pleasant thing. And the Prophet peace be upon him taught us to
00:00:24.820 seek refuge in Allah from the difficulties at the end of life,
00:00:27.600 the oncoming of death.
00:00:30.540 You know, this anti-Muslim bigotry is used, 0.96
00:00:32.680 even if all Palestinians are not Muslim,
00:00:34.440 but it's the same mechanisms, right?
00:00:36.340 The framing of the Palestinian people as being too dangerous to be trusted. 1.00
00:00:39.420 You have to kill them first, because if you don't kill them, 1.00
00:00:41.520 they're going to do this and they're going to take over. 1.00
00:00:42.920 And so they're nurtured in something so evil and so regressive 1.00
00:00:45.940 that we have to kill even their babies, 1.00
00:00:47.440 because if we don't kill them all, then they're going to grow up 1.00
00:00:49.800 and they're going to do this and do this and do that. 0.99
00:00:51.560 Many Democrats who are quote-unquote progressive,
00:00:54.200 i'm talking about the most progressive of the democratic leadership they would only speak about
00:00:58.520 palestinian humanity and the capacity of israeli security america comes first to them nation come
00:01:04.600 nation is what they really worship people and this is not fixing the problem it's just repeating it
00:01:09.880 in another place and if you are not actually against the the humanity issue if you're if
00:01:15.560 you don't see the the real problem then you're just as evil but you're just not in charge
00:01:22.360 assalamu alaikum how are you doing man good good to uh finally get to bring you on stream
00:01:29.720 is there an echo is the audio okay it's good on my end alhamdulillah
00:01:33.960 alhamdulillah it's uh it's a fasting day for you how's the how's the fast going omar
00:01:39.480 it's good man i'm gonna use like the excuse of any incoherence and blame it on caffeine
00:01:44.120 lack of caffeine man it's later in the day alhamdulillah but you know it's a blessed day man
00:01:48.680 alhamdulillah and honestly it kind of shows you how when you build consistency things are easier
00:01:54.500 because if you think about like just the way ramadan works um you know by the fifth sixth
00:02:00.260 day you're kind of into it and you're you're you're used to it and that's that's the training
00:02:03.840 of the soul so i think um me fasting uh today and probably for a lot of people we're kind of
00:02:10.320 disconnected from ramadan disconnected from like the fast you realize that maybe you haven't been
00:02:16.420 fasting enough so i think i need to fast more yeah so yeah it is a month of it's a month of
00:02:21.180 fasting by the way muharram is a good month to fast the prophet peace be upon him said that
00:02:25.280 there is no month uh in which fasting is more beloved to allah so after after ramadan this is
00:02:31.100 a good month to get in the habit of fasting inshallah i forgot how hard it was uh adura
00:02:35.760 hija this the pronunciation that was my first fast since ramadan and the day is much longer
00:02:41.440 the maghrib was at like 9 p.m and fajr started around 4 that was a brutal one but
00:02:49.840 not today unfortunately so uh can you explain the significance of this holiday because i think it
00:02:55.600 does transcend strictly islam this is about prophets that we find all over abrahamic faiths
00:03:02.080 correct yeah so so the fast is ashura so the month is muharram which is uh of the sacred
00:03:10.000 months in islam and it's a month in which the prophet peace be upon him called it the month
00:03:14.600 of allah so it's a month in which fasting is generally prescribed and when the prophet peace
00:03:21.380 be upon him calls muharram the month of allah if you look at the quranic terminology ayam
00:03:26.940 the days of allah tend to refer to days of great significance so a lot of significant events happen
00:03:33.240 so even ramadan i'm gonna try not to go too far down a rabbit hole with this sorry but even
00:03:39.000 Ramadan like it's not just the month in which
00:03:40.940 the Quran was revealed the Prophet peace be upon
00:03:42.960 him taught us that the Torah was
00:03:44.900 revealed in what corresponded
00:03:46.960 to Ramadan
00:03:47.360 you know the Psalms were revealed 0.59
00:03:50.780 in what corresponded to Ramadan all the divine
00:03:52.780 revelations came down what was
00:03:54.840 revealed to Jesus peace be upon him
00:03:56.380 corresponded to Ramadan that it's the month that God
00:03:58.920 chose in which the
00:04:00.680 revelation of books come
00:04:02.000 and so that's why we 0.94
00:04:04.920 honor that month the month in which the Quran
00:04:06.940 was revealed the Hijjah 0.61
00:04:08.220 the first 10 days of the hijj correspond to the last 10 days of moses peace be upon him when he
00:04:15.200 was held back in his conversation with allah so it's it's truly a month that revolves around the
00:04:20.900 prophets right it revolves around the sacrifice of abraham peace be upon him and it revolves around
00:04:25.780 also again the best 10 days of the year holding um moses peace be upon him and it is the time
00:04:31.540 Arafah being the day in which God extracted us from the back of Adam
00:04:39.220 Peace be upon him 0.98
00:04:40.780 So it's a month that kind of brings it all back together 0.91
00:04:43.120 The month of Allah, Muharram, and particularly Ashura
00:04:48.360 So this is the day that when the Prophet, peace be upon him, came to Medina
00:04:51.900 He saw some of the Jewish communities that were fasting
00:04:55.760 And said, why are they fasting?
00:04:58.600 and they're fasting because they are celebrating the victory of moses peace be upon him over the
00:05:04.000 pharaoh and he said you know we have we have a greater right to moses we love moses we're close
00:05:10.040 to moses peace be upon him and um you know that would correspond historically to um you know most
00:05:19.480 of the most classical scholars said that it would have lined up with yom kippur like in terms of like
00:05:24.320 the the the jewish equivalent if you will but there's a great article by um shibli zaman
00:05:29.820 uh if you look it up where he actually aligns it to another date on the jewish calendar by
00:05:34.240 actually tracing the the the lunar um months and stuff like that and there's some some other
00:05:39.440 scholars that kind of went back in history the point being that it's it's the day in which so
00:05:43.900 so moses peace be upon him musa islam is given victory over the pharaoh so it's it's the and
00:05:49.560 we're close to musa we love moses peace be upon him um it's also the day in which some narrations
00:05:55.880 say that allah saved noah he saved the prophet noah peace be upon him so the arrival of the ark
00:06:01.640 uh of of uh of noah peace be upon him so it's a day of victory but then it's also a day in islamic
00:06:08.040 history that corresponds to the martyrdom of hussein uh the grandson of the prophet peace
00:06:19.560 martyred in karbala and so you know when you when you tie all that together i'd say that you know
00:06:28.820 first and foremost there's victory as in you know worldly victory and then there's victory that's
00:06:34.400 also victory that could look like defeat in this life or is martyrdom in this life and so the people
00:06:41.780 of gaza for example we say are victorious whether they were martyred or whether they survived in
00:06:47.100 this world because when you stand on your your truth you stand on your principles whether you
00:06:51.260 are killed or whether you're given worldly uh victory you're still victorious like allah 0.80
00:06:55.880 describes to us the people of the ditch in the quran that were thrown into a ditch and set on
00:07:01.120 fire um allah describes them as successful not because we're we're suicidal as muslims or that
00:07:07.680 we look for you know harm for ourselves no absolutely not but that if you are killed in
00:07:12.900 the process of standing upon the truth and the principles then you are victorious as well so
00:07:18.320 hussein is standing against the tyrant just like musa stood against the tyrant
00:07:23.700 and there are different two two shades of victory here and so you feel great sadness and the prophet
00:07:29.980 peace be upon him felt great sadness when he learned when when he when the death of hussein
00:07:34.420 the martyr of hussein was shown to him or he was informed about it um in his lifetime he felt
00:07:40.420 extreme sadness over that but we feel joy for the victory of musa islam and moses peace be upon him
00:07:47.100 so as muslims like we connect ourselves to a whole history right and that history even predates the
00:07:53.760 prophet muhammad peace be upon him like he said the prophet muhammad peace be upon him said i'm
00:07:58.060 the closest person in the world to jesus peace be upon him because there's no prophet between he and
00:08:02.060 i those are the words that he used and the same words they said that we are closer to moses he
00:08:06.940 said i'm the closest person to jesus peace be upon him because there was no uh prophet sent
00:08:12.280 between us and so he the prophets are like brothers uh and the quran takes us through
00:08:18.820 stories of triumph stories of trial and ultimately you know we we we find the prophet peace be upon
00:08:25.460 him giving us an act of worship to honor a very personal moment like the moment of ibrahim
00:08:31.280 abraham peace be upon him being commanded to sacrifice his son um and allah sparing his son
00:08:38.480 ismail peace be upon him and all that came from that and then honoring moses peace be upon him
00:08:45.360 and his victory over the pharaoh sorry man that was a mouthful oh no just the camera it came in
00:08:50.800 and out so this is an important day not just for sunnis but also for shias because they have uh
00:08:57.040 this was at the site of karbala this is a major place of worship for them and they speak very
00:09:05.700 highly of hussein imam hussein yeah absolutely and there are definitely differences of practices
00:09:12.700 and differences of of how we we approach the day um i'd say that like being a sunni muslim
00:09:19.920 there's a reaction to approach it and to almost try to like not talk about or to avoid what
00:09:26.780 happened to al-Husayn which is problematic right because he's the grandson of the Prophet
00:09:31.400 to love the family the Prophet is loving the Prophet while still you know honoring the
00:09:39.460 original intent of when the Prophet peace be upon him came to Medina and fasted it for that reason
00:09:44.660 And so my reaction to that is that we should, again, see simply two shades of victory here and connect to the deeper lessons here.
00:09:52.420 That there's no doubt that Al-Hussain, radiallahu anhu, understood the significance of this day.
00:09:59.760 And Allah granted him victory in another way.
00:10:01.560 Just like, you know, we say again, like, you know, the soul of our soul, Khalid Nabhan or Anas al-Sharif or Salih Ja'farawi,
00:10:08.320 these great martyrs in Gaza, they're victorious in their own way, right?
00:10:13.560 they're heroes um and so um yeah you can you can you can take all these lessons not just of the
00:10:21.640 past but of today like connected to gaza today and connected to uh the the sacrifices that are
00:10:29.120 being made today and and derive something great from that for yourself like what are you willing
00:10:33.920 to sacrifice and ultimately that success is found in the afterlife if you are judged properly and
00:10:40.260 you find eternal paradise rather than eternal hellfire that's real success not being a
00:10:46.180 trillionaire not being famous not having any dunya that's not a measurement of success true success
00:10:52.060 is found when you are judged on the final day yeah and so so the way that it's it's seen is
00:10:58.880 like a continuum of history a lot of promises victory for the believers like we believe in the
00:11:04.540 return of jesus peace be upon him we believe in jesus uh overcoming the the the antichrist we
00:11:10.660 believe in in a world that ends with victory for the believers we believe that palestine will be
00:11:14.740 free uh for sure inshallah that mazda will be freed every child in gaza i tell people this
00:11:20.660 every single person that i've ever met from gaza every single family member every single relative 0.63
00:11:24.960 every single person i've ever spoken to has zero doubt even if they're missing three limbs that 0.98
00:11:29.860 Palestine will be freed, inshallah 0.90
00:11:31.840 that Al-Aqsa will be freed 1.00
00:11:33.740 but
00:11:34.980 if in the process of that
00:11:37.480 you know, we don't live to see that ultimate
00:11:39.880 worldly victory, right, that
00:11:41.800 God promises the believers, then our
00:11:43.600 victory is found in our salvation
00:11:45.180 and then our collective victory
00:11:47.440 our collective happiness is that eternal salvation
00:11:49.800 and anything worldly
00:11:51.740 that you accumulate in the process
00:11:53.320 at the expense of your faith or your principles
00:11:55.300 is actually loss, it's actually failure
00:11:57.780 so you can be the richest man in the world
00:11:59.300 That you could be a complete and utter failure in the sight of God 1.00
00:12:01.520 And be a loser 0.98
00:12:03.240 You know, Allah uses those terms 1.00
00:12:04.920 Fawz, which is success
00:12:07.080 Khosran ul-mubeen, the great loss 0.93
00:12:09.880 Right, so there are losers and there are winners
00:12:11.840 And, you know, faqad faz refers to the ones that succeeded
00:12:16.980 The ones that win are the ones that win in the end
00:12:19.240 You know, you win the race at the end
00:12:21.440 And that's what we're all trying to do
00:12:22.560 Is win the race in the end, inshallah
00:12:24.280 And Allah says in the Quran that every soul shall taste death 0.75
00:12:27.340 And I really love the phrasing taste
00:12:28.900 because it really means you're going to have to savor,
00:12:31.460 you're going to have to understand it's the most sensitive of the,
00:12:36.200 or sensitivities compared to all of them.
00:12:38.300 He uses that word, I think, specifically because it's not that you can avoid it.
00:12:41.740 And you hear now the people that are afraid of death,
00:12:44.080 these people that just value wealth, they're trying to live forever now.
00:12:48.420 This is like a new phenomenon.
00:12:50.080 This guy, Brian Johnson, is saying that he wants to never die. 0.82
00:12:54.220 He made a Netflix documentary where he says that this would be the first generation
00:12:58.440 of people that won't die and he's transfusing his blood with his son's blood which is in a way
00:13:03.520 adrenochrome and you know that they are going to find out eventually that every soul shall taste
00:13:09.580 death and you can't trick god you can't trick what's inevitable for all of us absolutely yeah
00:13:15.720 and and you know it's really interesting because all of us hate something about death and by the
00:13:23.400 way this is actually a conversation that happened between the prophet muhammad peace be upon us and
00:13:27.220 And Aisha, may Allah be pleased with her
00:13:29.960 When the Prophet peace be upon him
00:13:31.800 Said whoever hates to meet
00:13:33.440 God, whoever hates to meet Allah 0.93
00:13:35.620 Allah hates to meet them and whoever loves to meet Allah 0.97
00:13:37.800 Allah loves to meet them 0.99
00:13:38.880 And Aisha said but 1.00
00:13:41.360 Ya Rasulullah we all hate death 1.00
00:13:42.980 Like she's being very honest
00:13:45.020 That as human beings no one likes the idea
00:13:47.880 Of death or we shouldn't
00:13:49.620 It's not the idea of death that we're seeking
00:13:51.560 But the Prophet
00:13:53.680 Peace be upon him responds and he says that
00:13:55.280 it's not that oh Aisha it's that when the believer is given the good news of the reward of Allah and
00:14:02.480 his mercy and his glad tidings then he loves to meet Allah and the disbeliever when they're given 0.90
00:14:08.580 the news of the anger of Allah and punishment and they hate to meet Allah right so he's saying that
00:14:15.700 this is at the time when a person does die there's a difference between hating death and fearing death 0.71
00:14:20.900 to a point that you'll sell your hereafter for your world so muslims should not fear death 0.63
00:14:28.500 um to a point that they love this world too much and they love this life too much and they're 1.00
00:14:35.380 deceived by this world they're deluded by this world but like the natural part of i don't want
00:14:40.660 to die like that's natural like no one wants to die right it's not it's not a pleasant thing and
00:14:47.060 And the Prophet, peace be upon him, taught us to seek refuge in Allah from difficult,
00:14:50.920 from the difficulties at the end of life,
00:14:53.140 the oncoming of death.
00:14:56.840 And just like as an imam, like having been in the room with so many people
00:15:00.340 as they've been passing away my whole life,
00:15:02.940 I mean, I've been in the room with the angel of death so many times
00:15:06.860 that it's humbling when you see someone as they're leaving this world.
00:15:11.240 And someone could have died the most gruesome of deaths,
00:15:14.220 like had the most painful death, but there's a,
00:15:16.280 and a smile at the end and like you can you can almost sense like the soul came out of the body
00:15:21.880 and the eyes follow and there's a there's a peace in the room sometimes you have someone that dies
00:15:26.100 like a totally natural death and it's not it's not necessarily a painful death but it's almost
00:15:30.400 like you could feel them shrieking or squeezing onto something when they're dying and that's not
00:15:34.980 something like you understand unless you've been in proximity to death man and and that's something
00:15:38.860 like i i you know when i was an imam a full-time imam 2006 to 2011 and back in new orleans we
00:15:46.600 didn't have the ability to like have a professional uh organization that would wash dead bodies like
00:15:52.380 we had to go do it with the family members ourselves and so young people i'd have young
00:15:57.120 people volunteer along with the family members uh you know young people that were mature enough
00:16:02.540 to just kind of be there your life really does change when you wash the dead and nowadays most 0.76
00:16:08.540 people don't get that experience because you have muslim funeral homes that will do that or you know
00:16:13.140 it's a professional service but when you've been in proximity to death someone that's dying and
00:16:19.080 you've washed the body um and you've been in that process then you kind of realize like
00:16:23.880 these experiences are very different for people and everybody has a good ending everybody has
00:16:30.640 a similar experience if you speak to somebody who had an nd or near that a near-death experience an
00:16:36.200 NDE they all say that there is a light and that there's it's it almost sounds exactly like what
00:16:43.020 Allah describes in the Quran about your soul leaving and about the process of death and most
00:16:48.400 often when people have an NDE they come to the realization that God is real when they start to
00:16:53.540 see that they're going to be judged I wanted to ask you on the subject of martyrs there's a
00:16:59.500 a phrase in the quran allah says in the quran that don't say the martyrs are dead for they are
00:17:06.220 alive i may be misquoting it exactly but what is the correct interpretation of this
00:17:11.760 so the context of this um first and foremost is when the muslims suffered
00:17:19.600 uh massive casualties at uh the battle of uhud and multiple muslims were were murdered were
00:17:28.600 martyred their bodies were mutilated um it was it was a very nasty form of death and it's really 0.67
00:17:35.860 interesting because like in badr and it kind of shows you how our moral high ground has to always
00:17:40.120 be higher than our enemies the prophet peace be upon him treated the captive so well even though
00:17:44.260 he was run out expelled his family members were killed he didn't treat them that way
00:17:49.060 he didn't mutilate captives in fact he ransomed um you know captives and treated them you know
00:17:56.580 with exemplary kindness and then when uhud happened which is the next battle uh they mutilated they
00:18:02.460 cut they cut the muslims bodies up and this was really hard for the people of medina to see their
00:18:07.840 relatives cut up into pieces right like noses cut off ears cut off um livers cut out like it was it 0.70
00:18:14.780 was just it was extremely gruesome as they walked through that battlefield and i think you've been
00:18:18.700 to uhud right i've been to uhud many times beautiful yeah yeah and and um so when that
00:18:26.200 happened allah revealed to the believers as a result of their inquiry over what happened to
00:18:36.420 those martyrs like the specifics don't save them that they're dead rather they're alive
00:18:46.360 with their lord rejoicing and the prophet peace be upon him gives us a whole backstory that when
00:18:51.800 allah honored them the way that he honored them like he you know constructed for them chandeliers
00:18:58.000 from his throne he nestled them in the bodies of green birds allowed them to eat from the fruits
00:19:03.620 of paradise allowed them to roam the heavens and to come back and continue to provide for them and
00:19:08.920 said tell me what you want tell me what you want tell me what you want and in one narration you
00:19:14.680 know they they said because of the the honor that allah bestowed upon them like allah did so much
00:19:20.160 for them that you know we we would want to be killed in in your path again like we would sacrifice
00:19:24.920 again for you because you know allah's generosity allah's mercy and honor that he's bestowing upon
00:19:30.680 them but then there is this part like you know can we tell our families that we're okay and and
00:19:38.400 really the specific part of this by the way the believers so that they'll continue to move forward
00:19:42.560 Because you don't want them to be paralyzed
00:19:44.520 I talk about this, I did a series called The Other Side
00:19:47.460 Where I delve into
00:19:49.380 The life of the dead
00:19:51.320 By the way
00:19:51.800 The Other Side is a 30 episode series
00:19:54.540 Just like very specific things
00:19:55.880 So I'm paraphrasing right now
00:19:57.120 But so they wouldn't lose heart
00:19:58.920 So they'd continue forward
00:20:00.080 And they wouldn't forsake their mission
00:20:03.020 And so Allah said
00:20:04.740 I'll tell them on your behalf 1.00
00:20:08.280 And so he sent Jibreel 1.00
00:20:09.460 With the message to the Prophet
00:20:11.620 peace be upon him with these verses that they're alive they're not dead you don't perceive them as
00:20:17.820 such they're rejoicing they're waiting for you right the same way that someone that you love
00:20:23.340 who goes ahead to a destination and gets it ready for you waits for you waits to reunite with you
00:20:27.560 they're waiting for you so don't be deceived by the images of gruesomeness and noses cut off and
00:20:34.140 and ears cut off and people that were mutilated and that's the same thing we say about the people
00:20:38.240 of ghaza like that you know the prophet peace be upon him said the martyr sees their place in
00:20:43.520 paradise from the first strike at the very first strike the wife of firaun since we're talking
00:20:48.580 about the pharaoh asia the wife of the of the pharaoh who is you know such a legendary martyr
00:20:55.140 allah talks about her martyrdom in the quran that when the pharaoh dropped the stone on her body to
00:20:59.940 shatter her into pieces that he took her soul out from her body and when shaitan when well firaun
00:21:06.680 who's acting like a shaytan when firaun was having her last she was laughing because she was seeing 0.93
00:21:13.000 her place in paradise and he said look at this crazy woman right so the point is is that this
00:21:19.040 gives great comfort to the believer and you know that that's something that that people hold on to
00:21:27.500 that my my loved one is alive and that they're happy and that they don't they wouldn't want to
00:21:32.640 come back to this world they can't wait for us to join them and that if there was like a press
00:21:37.280 conference that was held by you know the martyrs of ghaza that have passed away then they would
00:21:43.120 tell you that they're okay that they're being taken care of that don't worry about us keep going
00:21:47.240 now the again just like we're talking about like how the individual has to reconcile the tension of
00:21:52.960 hating death but also not fearing it to a point that it holds them back for their mission towards
00:21:57.960 the hereafter the same thing is true like you can hate and you should absolutely hate the murder and
00:22:05.040 massacre of innocent people and the gruesomeness of it and try to stop it with everything that 0.70
00:22:09.180 you have and go all out but then take comfort that when you can't stop what has been decreed 0.72
00:22:16.560 and what has transpired that Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala has a rectification of that Allah has a
00:22:20.540 restoration not just of a person's body being reconstructed but of a person who you know the
00:22:26.880 prophet peace be upon him said that the person who had the worst life will be dipped into paradise
00:22:32.500 one time some of the scholars said that this is referring to um to job ayyub alayhi salam
00:22:38.040 because the prophet job ayyub alayhi salam suffered so much but he said
00:22:42.200 and if you took the person who had the worst life and you dip them into paradise just one time
00:22:48.200 allah will bring that person dip them into paradise one time and say have you ever seen
00:22:52.640 any sadness have you any ever seen any hardship and that person would not even know what sadness
00:22:57.460 is anymore would not know what hardship is it would have all been removed they don't feel pain
00:23:01.960 anymore and whether we're talking about you know uh the wife of fir'un or we're talking about the
00:23:08.860 grandson of hussein uh or we're talking about the martyrs of ghazza we're talking about the
00:23:14.740 martyrs of san diego like ameen and and and nadir and abu al-iz those three martyrs in san diego
00:23:21.960 yeah um you know inshallah they're they're all good now they're good now that doesn't mean we
00:23:27.380 don't hate the crime but we trust the lord of the criminal and the victim to to do what's right he'll
00:23:33.400 punish the criminal sufficiently and he'll reward the victim sufficiently to where they wouldn't
00:23:38.640 even want to come back to this world they're happy it's so unjust and unfair in this world
00:23:44.600 obviously we're all going to be judged correctly and things will be fair in the next life but the
00:23:50.820 fact that amin abdullah the martyr who protected all the children of that mosque in san
00:23:54.020 diego i actually learned how to make wudu in that majid you were under the impression that i was
00:23:59.340 from san diego but when i went over there that was when i was first learning and that was that
00:24:04.020 specific majid and the fact that this hero who stopped a terrorist attack is not spoken about
00:24:09.860 and people have seemed to have glossed this over this uh heroic act it seems like people have
00:24:14.220 forgotten him and we the people that we celebrate have not had one ounce of the courage that amin
00:24:20.100 abdullah had it's a shame that he's not remembered the way that he should be if things
00:24:24.040 were just and i love that comparison you brought up of the the wife of the pharaoh thinking that
00:24:29.400 the woman was crazy because you kind of see this today i mean the people that are demonized the
00:24:34.520 most are the ones that understand what's going to happen understand the hour understand the day of 0.82
00:24:39.240 judgment and the people that are revered as celebrities and or the one that are pushing this
00:24:44.000 pushing these lies are really the crazy ones and now look i mean the pharaoh and his wife they were 0.88
00:24:48.100 saying that the believers are crazy but the pharaoh today is on display for everybody to see
00:24:52.940 he's nothing more than a museum exhibit he said he was god and he said that he was going to live
00:24:57.580 forever and we see him on display today and i guarantee you that the pharaohs of today like 0.92
00:25:03.820 i guarantee you benjamin netanyahu is one of the most miserable human beings in the world 0.69
00:25:07.360 he's a miserable person and he's inshallah going to have a miserable fate for all the crimes that 0.98
00:25:13.860 he's committed for example like these people think they're immune and they're miserable they're 0.98
00:25:19.720 empty on the inside because they can't get enough of their crime and at the end of the day like you
00:25:27.560 know you look at amin and you know i was just in san diego i just came back from san diego and spent
00:25:32.440 some time with the families and even visiting the cemetery and it's a surreal experience and even
00:25:36.720 being in the masjid because like you said like you have to kind of stand there and realize like amin
00:25:41.400 held them off he locked down the school imagine how different the story would be if 140 something
00:25:45.940 children were massacred like imagine how different the story is right imagine the parents and just 0.54
00:25:51.720 the community and every islamic school in the country and every masjid in the country like
00:25:55.120 that changes so much ameen was inspired to be like i mean this is such a core lesson of ashura man
00:26:01.760 ameen was was inspired to be the security guard of the masjid because of what happened in christ
00:26:06.900 church right the terrorist attack in christ church he wanted to protect the muslims he wanted to
00:26:12.420 protect the innocent people he took that up as as like a life purpose after christ church
00:26:16.740 the two terrorists that killed him and then killed themselves were inspired by the terrorist in
00:26:23.940 christ church like look at how the stories are intersecting the pharaoh and the victim right
00:26:29.320 the tyrant and the hero that man may allah have mercy on him um and i'm not going to disclose too
00:26:37.620 much because you know in due time inshallah we're going to make a documentary about about them by
00:26:41.360 the way inshallah we're actually working on a documentary full documentary about their lives
00:26:44.540 but it the way he almost knew this was going to happen like his last facebook post is just by the
00:26:51.220 way um a small piece of that where he's just he's saying you know all i want is my soul to return
00:26:56.960 to Allah as pure as the day that he gave it to me
00:26:59.020 and asking Allah for a good ending
00:27:01.060 and like, the way that he was
00:27:03.060 acting that day was not usual
00:27:05.200 by the way, the last words that were
00:27:07.080 heard out of him, to Allah
00:27:08.940 we belong and to Allah we return before he was shot
00:27:11.080 you contrast that 0.96
00:27:13.020 to the two
00:27:13.620 you know, terrorists that killed each
00:27:17.100 other, like how empty they were, how
00:27:18.960 miserable they were, you know 0.99
00:27:21.040 what losers they were compared to what a 0.95
00:27:22.880 fulfilled and purposeful man this man was 0.97
00:27:24.940 nadir ran to the masjid he ran to the masjid right not away from the masjid he ran to the masjid
00:27:32.000 and lost his life um you know and and him and abu al-iz are also two martyrs that
00:27:37.160 we also need to talk about right but i'll say this like the problem the thing is like these
00:27:42.940 people want to psychologically break us and they want us to be relegated to what we see in front
00:27:47.520 of our eyes you know i'll tell you um because you've been there i'm not sure if you know this
00:27:52.880 But Uhud has flooded multiple times in history
00:27:55.080 And the bodies have come out
00:27:57.360 As fresh as the day they were buried
00:27:58.780 Jabir ibn Abdullah
00:28:01.540 Whose father was one of those 0.97
00:28:04.200 May Allah be pleased with him
00:28:05.060 And his father who was martyred on that day
00:28:07.040 He was called back to the battlefield of Uhud
00:28:09.040 Forty years later when it flooded
00:28:10.600 To see the body of his father
00:28:13.080 And it was so fresh
00:28:14.560 Like the day that it was buried
00:28:15.780 That they had put his hand
00:28:18.300 On where the wound, where the blood was flowing
00:28:20.480 And when they removed his hand the blood kept flowing
00:28:22.140 so they put it back and they reburied him you know my father moved to medina in the late 50s
00:28:28.480 and 60s early 60s he lived there for six years coming from palestine and he met people who had
00:28:36.700 reburied the martyrs of uhud from a flood in the early 1900s and they talked about the bodies of
00:28:43.320 hamza radiallahu anhu and the bodies like how recognizable they were these people's these
00:28:49.340 people's bodies are miracles in and of themselves have you ever seen i know you love malcolm
00:28:54.700 rahimallah had a speech about him i was going to get to that afterwards
00:28:59.340 yeah have you seen have you seen the picture of him the smile on his face in the morgue
00:29:06.220 yeah it was uh captured well in the movie by spike lee it's based off of his autobiography
00:29:12.060 right before the shotgun right when it's pointed at him he's giving a speech he's giving a talk
00:29:17.500 and the nation of islam pulls the trigger he looks at the his assassins and smiles like right before
00:29:23.340 because he knows where he's gonna go and he must have known i mean i think the movie did a great
00:29:28.220 job capturing that feeling but the fact that he was aware that the fbi had his phone wiretapped
00:29:35.260 that the nation of islam was starting to turn on him once he accepted true islam and he chose to
00:29:39.900 to speak at that in this venue in harlem where they would be he seemed like he was accepting the 0.67
00:29:48.180 inevitability of his assassination and was not afraid of it he accepted it long before um it was
00:29:55.160 the fbi wanted him dead they just needed they needed someone of his own to pull the trigger on
00:29:59.820 him but he knew it and um if you read his his autobiography his diary you talk to the people
00:30:05.220 that were close to him his family members by the way people should should you know obviously you
00:30:09.760 know read primary sources and um you know beyond beyond just the movie which which as you said the
00:30:17.300 movie opened up so many people's eyes to his life but like the way he was speaking the last few days
00:30:23.760 of his life the way he knew i mean his house was firebombed this week before that right like he
00:30:28.720 knew and he didn't waver um the way he held himself that day you just think about his last
00:30:35.740 words to people peace be on to you and then he's shot right and you know allah says that the the
00:30:44.660 the martyr is told what right salam first and foremost peace be on to you so he greets the
00:30:49.100 people and then the angels greet him you know god willing and that's just that's that's a perfect
00:30:54.640 sign of of you know what what a man looks like who held his own you know and wanted to wanted to
00:31:00.440 leave this world with his faith
00:31:03.200 intact. May Allah give us that good
00:31:05.140 ending as well. Inshallah. I have a tweet
00:31:07.240 up from 2014
00:31:08.580 because people say, sometimes maybe you've
00:31:11.080 seen that Sneeko converted
00:31:13.000 to Islam for clout. In 2014 0.63
00:31:15.100 I tweeted, I strongly considered
00:31:16.980 converting to Islam after reading the autobiography
00:31:19.220 of Malcolm X. And why
00:31:20.860 I really resonated with that book, my dad gave
00:31:23.000 it to me when I was about 11 or 12
00:31:24.720 is that he was
00:31:26.940 racist. I mean, there's no denying
00:31:28.880 this he harbored racist ideology towards white people he was a black nationalist and he realized
00:31:34.640 when he went to mecca this transformative experience that he could have food and he could 0.96
00:31:39.000 sit next to those of all different colors and that the white devils that he was so upset about 0.53
00:31:42.540 were not actually that different from him and he got rid of that racial superiority complex 0.76
00:31:48.000 and i'm of the belief that racial superiority is the root of all evil i think that the gin
00:31:52.580 iblis when he was told to prostrate to adam and he refused because he said i'm made from fire and
00:31:57.480 man's made from clay they should prostrate to me and he cursed and dedicated his entire existence
00:32:02.320 to try to bring people away from Allah out of ego out of arrogance that he should be worshipped 0.94
00:32:07.980 became shaitan and now you see this racial superiority and you see that the way that 0.83
00:32:13.380 the Israelis act it's it's out of the same arrogance it's out of the same ego that other 0.75
00:32:18.720 lives aren't worth it look at Ben Gavir the minister of national security in Israel he just 0.54
00:32:24.140 said that one israeli tear is equivalent to a thousand lebanese tears this is somebody who
00:32:29.660 believes that his life is a thousand times more valuable than in others uh than another life and
00:32:35.060 this this issue i see everywhere now even with a lot of people that are critical of what's going
00:32:40.120 on in this genocide the ego and uh the arrogance and even like believing that you're superior based
00:32:46.920 off of things that god did not make you superior over this is what strays people away so so often
00:32:54.120 And I think it's I think it's ramped up a lot in in recent times.
00:32:59.800 Yeah. And look, what made Malcolm special, there's a lot to unpack about him.
00:33:04.820 He recognized ethnosupremacy wherever he went.
00:33:07.640 And he had this this immediate ability to be able to diagnose and to make those connections. 0.61
00:33:14.140 So he went to Gaza. Malcolm went to Gaza in 1964 and he wrote an article about Zionism.
00:33:22.700 I mean, Malcolm was speaking about Vietnam before anybody else was speaking about Vietnam.
00:33:27.780 But wait, Omar, didn't this start on October 7th, 2023?
00:33:34.480 Yeah, I guess he knew something was going to happen, right?
00:33:38.140 It's incredible, man.
00:33:40.700 You know, the irony should not be lost whatsoever.
00:33:43.020 And you read about Zionist logic, and that's actually the point that Malcolm understood in 1964.
00:33:50.040 This is before 1967.
00:33:51.400 I mean, he understood the motives of Zionism. 0.87
00:33:56.560 He understood the disease of that supremacy that was coming through. 0.78
00:34:02.500 And again, he was able to see ethno-supremacy across the world, right?
00:34:05.260 And he was able to immediately weigh in on the dehumanization, you know, that was taking place, that was allowing for people to be wiped off the face of the earth or people to be disregarded and have their basic rights disregarded.
00:34:18.540 and the cancerous ideologies that were united through this it's like if you talk about
00:34:24.320 you know um zionism today um you're also gonna you know find like hindutva drawing its parallels
00:34:32.620 right in india and the treatment of of muslims there you can see like this i know that you're
00:34:38.960 passionate about bosnia like the serbian uh connection to zionism as well and how much of
00:34:45.800 what the serbs did to the bosnians was repackaged in gaza so the sniper safaris in sarajevo
00:34:51.860 and some of that same behavior um being acted upon against the people of palestine
00:34:56.900 um as well so there are these eerie similarities um you know malcolm is a core example of when you
00:35:03.940 when you have your fitra intact which is your natural disposition towards good and you're
00:35:08.680 seeking the truth that allah will allow you to see that truth and and will let your lens be refined
00:35:14.500 uh early on so he was always kind of able to see it before other people and that sincerity
00:35:21.420 was so crucial to who he was to where even his critics could not doubt his sincerity they
00:35:26.960 couldn't cast doubt on his sincerity right that he was a seeker and because he was seeking the
00:35:31.440 truth when he found the truth he had the courage to match his convictions right he would stand for
00:35:35.540 that truth as well so vietnam palestine um obviously you know the positions that he took on
00:35:43.260 on on black america and his critique of white supremacy now extending to zionist supremacy and
00:35:47.740 he even compares american dollarism to zionist uh uh dollarism you know and he talks about those
00:35:54.360 two things the marriage of those two things and uh you know malcolm also was warning many of the
00:36:01.420 countries in africa not to fall prey uh to this the scheme and like you can you can see you know
00:36:09.860 Israel in its attempt now to spread greater Israel, like, what do you think this is all about, 0.89
00:36:15.740 right? Like, like trying to establish bases in Africa and trying to, you know, pick off countries 0.96
00:36:21.700 here and there that might seem, you know, not as significant to the immediate, you know, tension, 0.63
00:36:30.680 genocide, you know, but at the same time, it's all part of a plan, right, to weaken, to dominate,
00:36:37.840 and to divide and to conquer. And Allah says in the Quran that they will claim to be peacemakers 0.91
00:36:43.100 while they spread corruption in the land. You see the Israeli government now will say,
00:36:46.860 we just want peace. We just want to be. But every time somebody doesn't bend to their will,
00:36:53.560 anytime a nation doesn't submit or look at Gaddafi in Libya, when they want to have an
00:36:57.340 independent system, when they want to create their own banks and not rely upon the petrodollar,
00:37:01.740 they get assassinated. Look at what's happening in Sudan. Even in Somalia, we have Somaliland.
00:37:06.600 this happens everywhere where there's a nation that's not subservient to them they make sure
00:37:11.100 they regime change it and get them in line trump just a endorsed a colombian president who is
00:37:17.520 getting funded and is also another zionist even in colombia in south america you see the same people
00:37:22.300 he's rigging elections and influencing countries in south america to fall in line so it's spreading 0.59
00:37:27.680 obviously greater israel project was once an anti-semitic conspiracy theory now they're pretty
00:37:31.720 public about it but it goes far beyond just the middle east every nation is supposed to be
00:37:37.800 subservient to this dominant you know racial racially supremacist uh state and because of
00:37:46.280 this holiday i i did want to ask you about one because um i had a can i comment on what you just
00:37:51.880 said yes please please yeah sorry i just would say that look um you know the way that that israel
00:37:59.160 seize the world and america's foreign policy is inseparable from israel's policy right i mean
00:38:05.080 unfortunately it's one in the same um everyone's a chess piece right so they don't care about
00:38:11.480 someone's actual atrocities against a people like they might fight an actual tyrant or remove an
00:38:17.000 actual tyrant but not because they care about his tyranny but because it's he's a chess piece
00:38:21.240 and they might demonize and vilify someone who's not a tyrant and shape him into being tyrannical
00:38:25.800 because he's a chess piece at the end of the day that's actually part of the dehumanization
00:38:33.080 of you know the muslim world of south america as well of africa and beyond is like again it's all 0.78
00:38:38.200 chess pieces at the end of the day it's their interests that dominate all and people don't 1.00
00:38:42.040 matter in that process so if we're going to murder a million people in iraq and we're going to say
00:38:47.160 but saddam hussein did this this and that you know you don't have to uh be an apologist for saddam's
00:38:53.480 crimes to see that the war in Iraq was an absolute crime right and like the murder of innocent one
00:39:00.420 million people in Iraq was an absolute crime so that's the point like it's there the way that 0.89
00:39:05.420 that the world is seen through American foreign policy and through you know through Israel's 0.97
00:39:10.560 policy domestic and foreign and to them it's all the same because of all greater Israel right 0.87
00:39:15.880 they're trying to create that greater Israel is that this vision has to be executed and we will 0.93
00:39:21.760 play people and pit them against each other and kill people and support people right in accordance 0.93
00:39:27.360 with that vision and there's absolutely no regard for their humanity or their interests in the
00:39:31.440 process and if they don't need you anymore they might you might be on their side they'll use you
00:39:35.120 and then they'll dump you uh very quickly after that absolutely right it's divide and conquer and 0.99
00:39:40.220 i mean look muslims are the fastest growing religion in the world we've almost two billion 1.00
00:39:45.140 we have the truth on our side we have all these nations and we are divided and this is why this
00:39:50.300 is happening to us because we are not uniting on the most important issues this is actually why i
00:39:53.920 admire your work because i think that you've brought unity to a lot of people and you have
00:39:59.140 broken down a lot of the propaganda if they're going to say muslims are terrorists muslims are
00:40:03.660 evil muslims can't coexist i think you've done one of the maybe the best job over the past
00:40:09.260 maybe decade or so from what i've seen to extend uh an arm of unity and that's the most important 1.00
00:40:17.060 thing we can do. That's literally the most important fight against this because this
00:40:21.780 strategy only works when people are bickering over culture war issues. It's never become more
00:40:26.680 clear in America that left and right is all divisive slop. It's really about what's right
00:40:31.020 and wrong. So let's say if you're not completely allied with Trump, oh, you betrayed Trump,
00:40:36.300 you hate America. It's not that I hate America. This is my country. I was born here. I want the
00:40:40.980 best for my country. But when they're turning off the lights in Cuba and people are starving and
00:40:45.800 they can't use their fridge this is clearly not correct and Allah says in the Quran to stand with
00:40:50.100 the oppressed so when they're starting wars for no reason this is wrong and this is not helping us
00:40:55.260 and it's not helping people in the country that it's happening it's only expanding the greater
00:40:59.360 Israel project so and people will understand this their future will say okay I understand this is 1.00
00:41:05.140 bad but I'm right wing you know I don't want to see transgenders in women's sports and so they 1.00
00:41:11.320 ally with somebody and not look at the major issue and very clearly that this is the most 0.98
00:41:16.300 important issue by far this is not debatable about what's happening uh this genocide that's
00:41:21.340 now been admitted by the geneva convention and by the un so we have to look away from
00:41:26.920 these issues that are not really you know because are things really going to change when
00:41:32.720 you see like left-right politicians be like oh abortion is good abortion is bad does anything
00:41:37.000 ever change with these divisive issues that they debate about or they separate themselves about
00:41:40.700 Not really. It's been the same exact, like, did Trump change anything from Biden or Obama when it came to cultural issues? Not at all. But so many voters and so many people that are still allied will be there because Trump's not a liberal. But what does that even mean? What is liberal and conservative? Where does this come from? Well, conservative values, tradition of values comes from God. And everything they're promoting is antithetical to it.
00:42:04.740 In fact, Trump is disrespecting Jesus, peace be upon him, and dressing up like him and
00:42:10.780 appearing like him and saying, God blesses America and God blesses me.
00:42:16.020 And he's autographing a Bible.
00:42:17.960 He's completely disrespecting the religion.
00:42:19.760 He didn't even swear in on the Bible on his second term.
00:42:22.080 He didn't put his hand on it, one of the first presidents to do so.
00:42:24.680 So I think people need to understand that the left-right division, this is intentionally
00:42:31.660 created so that we are always going to be divided by culture war. You know who's not divided on
00:42:36.820 culture war? Israelis. In fact, most of them are not religious at all. Menyahu doesn't practice 0.87
00:42:41.820 Judaism. Most of them don't ever go to practice the Sabbath or any of the laws in the Torah, 0.94
00:42:49.940 but they all unite because they're an ethno-religion and they'll look away at each
00:42:53.680 other's differences to benefit themselves and their nation. And if we applied that same logic
00:42:59.320 and the umma wasn't as divided then we could be more successful and we wouldn't be getting
00:43:04.100 demolished the way we're getting demolished yeah look i think you know like the gaza
00:43:09.320 what happened in gaza is such a um you know easily visible detectable
00:43:19.380 threshold for like basic morality and basic humanity that when they say that with the gaza
00:43:26.360 generation it's it's also saying that um i think that it's ushered in a new standard of morality 0.97
00:43:32.100 like if if you are okay with this whether you're okay with it coming from the left or from the 0.99
00:43:40.600 right right so if you're okay with it on the basis of we need to kill those muslims we need to you 0.99
00:43:45.940 know because islamophobia you know this anti-muslim bigotry is used even if all palestinians 0.99
00:43:51.060 are not muslim but it's the same it's the same mechanisms right the framing of the palestinian 0.99
00:43:55.300 people as being too dangerous to be trusted you have to kill them first because if you don't kill 0.99
00:43:59.200 them they're going to do this and they're going to take over and so they're they're uh nurtured 1.00
00:44:03.540 in something so evil and so regressive that we have to kill even their babies because if we don't 1.00
00:44:07.300 kill them all then they're going to grow up and they're going to do this and do this and just do 1.00
00:44:10.700 that right and every accusation is a confession right and we see that but um whether it comes 0.99
00:44:17.100 from that idea or it comes from the idea of i believe you know uh in israel's right to exist
00:44:24.380 And I believe in it. Like when you say that stuff as an answer to what do you say about 60,000 people, 70,000 people, 80,000? I mean, the numbers go into the hundreds of thousands of people that have been killed. And that's your answer. Then you're immediately, right? Whitewashing your immorality in some sort of benevolence, which is garbage, right?
00:44:44.760 And speaking about it as some sort of friend to the Jewish people, it's all so twisted and perverted. 1.00
00:44:54.320 And I think that we have an opportunity right now in the United States to not just think about how Gaza can unite us around just basic moral principles of humanity, 1.00
00:45:07.580 like of of what it means to protect people but also um hopefully it will cause a lot of
00:45:15.100 americans to also ask themselves well what else did we get wrong because a lot of people are
00:45:19.280 waking up because of gaza and thinking like i can't believe we've been supporting this all
00:45:23.880 these years i can't believe we've been putting our tax dollars towards this all these years like
00:45:27.580 i've woken up to gaza well maybe it's time to wake up to iraq maybe it's time to wake up to
00:45:33.100 maybe it's time to wake up to america's foreign policy as a whole right which traffics in the 0.59
00:45:38.560 exact same evil as zionist behavior towards uh the palestinians and so you've got to just think 0.85
00:45:46.820 about the worldview that's been handed to you that has taught you that everyone's against you for 0.87
00:45:51.100 this this this and that it's like no like hey we've got we've got some serious things to think
00:45:55.660 about and this this really does cut at the heart of the right left divide okay if like you're
00:46:01.880 america first how are you okay with your tax dollars going to fund a foreign genocide and
00:46:08.920 your own children having their future bankrupted while killing these children in the present right
00:46:13.760 um if if you're talking about you know dignity and humanity and whatever it is if you're coming
00:46:19.980 at this from the left side and you're speaking about you know uh people's rights or whatever
00:46:25.360 it may be like how are you okay with with this if you're someone who's you know what they would
00:46:30.640 call progressive except palestine peps right so you talk about every other war but you go silent
00:46:35.380 on palestine why are you exceptionalizing the palestinians so this cuts this cuts across the
00:46:41.960 political divide and it allows people to open their eyes to to greater issues um and to think
00:46:49.460 about like what basic human consensus looks like like basic american consensus looks like and of 0.86
00:46:54.240 course for muslims basic umma consensus looks like like greater israel is bad zionism is is 0.91
00:47:01.000 the most pervasive threat right now uh to to our umma that we we need to do our part to humanity 0.99
00:47:07.200 to combat this yeah so so like you're finding these lines of consensus and then you work across
00:47:12.580 those lines of consensus and i think that's what the point is is that this busted wide open right
00:47:19.560 and it's not just the trump thing like that's actually the point like you've got to actually
00:47:24.600 go back to you know the most evil administration prior to uh trump uh 2.0 i would say 1.0 did not
00:47:33.680 even match that this administration was bush right uh initiating the wars um on afghanistan
00:47:39.660 iraq murdering all those people i mean rumsfeld rumsfeld um uh colin powell uh ashcroft like
00:47:47.220 right condolese de rice like these people were were just as evil as anyone else they were ideologues
00:47:51.580 they were using crusader slogans as they were putting together their pentagon briefings they 0.94
00:47:56.020 were looking at the muslim world through that lens and wiping people off the face of the earth gitmo 0.96
00:48:00.000 right all the political prisoners that were in prison in that time so both foreign and domestic 0.64
00:48:05.540 that was the worst administration but then what did the obama administration do it just transitioned 0.97
00:48:10.440 to you know dirty drone wars and uh incentivize the securitization industry and then built out
00:48:16.440 like you know uh these whole structures based upon that all right all right so what did what
00:48:22.240 did biden do i mean at the end of the day he still genocide joe and he still would you know
00:48:26.620 whenever he could be somewhat coherent would call himself a committed zionist right and did
00:48:31.440 absolutely nothing to stop this he could have stopped this on day one he did not he still has
00:48:37.900 the blood of tens of thousands of palestinians on his hands right he didn't stop it trump 2.0 i have
00:48:44.920 say though like this is like next level just evil on every end um so it's furthering it even now
00:48:50.520 who admits it it's the first president that got the war in iran he finally got the american
00:48:55.480 president to do this war in iran that he's been begging to do for 40 years and you're right i was
00:49:01.320 uh assuming you're gonna say bush one or george w bush was the most evil uh before that's what i
00:49:08.280 mean yeah w bush yeah w bush i mean even his father wasn't too great too if you look at the
00:49:12.760 no no i mean you can go back to clinton and anyone that was old enough anyone that was
00:49:17.240 old enough to be on the epstein island uh i think they were all there and uh it's just funny how
00:49:23.400 how unsurprising the the names were that were in the epstein files right and it's like so
00:49:29.080 unsurprising that bill clinton is like and just finds himself in so many different pictures and
00:49:33.160 stuff like so they look this is an evil class the point is is that this is an evil class of people
00:49:37.720 that have been you know gaslighting the american public and ruining their own future and ruining
00:49:45.460 their own present while destroying lives overseas and feeding their you know their pockets um you 0.77
00:49:52.180 know read up on dick cheney and haliburton like this is it's always been dirty war dirty money
00:49:57.060 at the expense of the american people now my concern like i think there's something weird
00:50:01.460 about someone who says i'm only troubled by the genocide in gaza because uh this is taking money
00:50:09.580 from my children that to me is like that that means you you've got a human problem you actually
00:50:13.660 have a humanity problem like i'm glad that you've moved away from a more evil uh right but like
00:50:21.880 you've still got a humanity problem right like there's still something very wrong about that
00:50:25.940 um so to me it's like is is the value of that person not enough um and you see this even like
00:50:35.000 you know like like many many democrats who are quote-unquote progressive i'm talking about the
00:50:41.720 most progressive of the democratic leadership that would they would only speak about palestinian
00:50:46.580 humanity and the capacity of israeli security right so i'm talking about like like the bernie
00:50:51.580 sanders wing right like it's still like it still has to be i believe in israel's right to exist i
00:50:55.400 believe in the the security of israel and then you talk about palestinian humanity so it's like so my
00:51:00.280 humanity is only worth being spoken about as it relates to somebody else's security that in and
00:51:06.340 of itself is part of the dehumanization process now you're not seeing it and there's a whole 0.93
00:51:10.220 spectrum here of dehumanizing palestinians and there are those who are evil enough to to straight
00:51:15.280 up say like i don't care if we kill them all we got to secure our interests we got to you know
00:51:20.460 we got to do this we got to do that but on that spectrum there are still layers of dehumanization 0.77
00:51:26.220 and layers of evil that need to be reckoned with across the board absolutely i've made the error
00:51:31.100 of amplifying people that were critical of israel before october 7th and by their own admission
00:51:37.260 putting them on and making their careers and just before the interview we're looking at a clip and
00:51:42.220 they're straight up saying that it's not about the humanity issue it's not about the genocide 0.90
00:51:47.900 we want what israel is doing for ourselves we want to apply their jet their tactics and their 1.00
00:51:54.460 warmongering for our own nation we want to kick butt the way that they are so it's not that they 1.00
00:52:00.860 actually oppose israel's actions it's that they just are jealous of it they envy that strength 0.90
00:52:06.060 and they want it for themselves and for the growth of their own nation because nationalism transcends
00:52:11.900 faith for them you know a lot of them will say some will claim to be muslim some will claim to
00:52:15.660 be christian or jewish as though you know fall back on jesus but america comes first to them
00:52:21.580 nation come nation is what they really worship people and this is not fixing the problem it's
00:52:26.860 just repeating it another place and if you are not actually against the the humanity issue if
00:52:33.020 you're if you don't see the the real problem then you're just as evil but you're just not in charge
00:52:40.780 yeah i mean that's that's a sad reality and i mean at the end of the day
00:52:45.660 Like, this is the conundrum right now is, you know, how much do you try to help people see how far they've gone?
00:52:57.340 Because there are some, you know, actual redemption stories, people that have redeemed themselves and have woken up to the evil that they supported.
00:53:05.540 You know, how much time do you dedicate to that versus just trying to confront this at every level right now in our system?
00:53:13.220 And, you know, it's hard to be, you know, it's really interesting.
00:53:17.940 Like, I was, you know, I was born and raised in this country.
00:53:20.680 My parents are both Palestinian refugees.
00:53:24.680 And I grew up in New Orleans.
00:53:27.860 So, like, I was, I think you've spoken about being, you know, ambiguous, racially ambiguous.
00:53:35.220 I was kind of racially ambiguous in New Orleans.
00:53:37.140 I kind of flew under the radar, you know, in terms of race.
00:53:41.020 i didn't really have to deal with much of that stuff growing up like in terms of anti-palestinian
00:53:45.400 stuff it was just kind of like this this unknown um by the time 9-11 hits i was already out um
00:53:52.040 you know the public school system so i didn't witness that that part of things but when october
00:53:59.460 7th happened post october 7th and like you remember jordan peterson's initial tweet and
00:54:05.340 people initially tweeting about this stuff and um and then like one of the the things that really
00:54:11.720 really just you know ruined it for me um was uh wadir fayumi the kid that was uh stabbed to death
00:54:19.920 over 20 times hacked to death by his landlord in illinois six-year-old palestinian kid um
00:54:26.140 i went to his janaza his mother was was stabbed multiple times as well but she survived amazing
00:54:30.900 woman hanan may allah bless her may allah allow wadir to intercede for her into paradise
00:54:36.700 going there was like being at that janazah was like it was the closest thing to like being in
00:54:42.360 gaza felt like at a janazah when you're watching the the funerals and stuff like that and
00:54:46.260 that meant you realize it's like these people hate you enough to where they would not mind
00:54:51.260 your your murder they would not mind you being slid up into pieces the same people that smile 0.99
00:54:56.140 in your faces a lot of them are are truly disgustingly hypocritical and and lack just 0.99
00:55:01.660 basic humanity and so someone was justifying the murder of people in gaza but then like suddenly 0.98
00:55:09.340 said oh like what happened to wadir is horrible in chicago it's like why because he's in because
00:55:12.940 he's in chicago it's the same kid right he's a palestinian kid uh and like i got i remember
00:55:19.420 getting a google news alert with that there was a kid in the west bank with my name spelling of my
00:55:23.740 name that was killed and i'm like you know there's something sickening about knowing that and i try
00:55:31.200 not to read the comments on social media um you know but like we just had a sister um i posted
00:55:38.520 about her i'm not sure if you saw i posted about her about a week ago whose car was shot at on her
00:55:44.380 way out of a palestine protest on mother's day and the bullet just missed her and went right into
00:55:50.420 her baby's car seat thankfully her baby wasn't in the car alhamdulillah and um you know the df
00:55:57.780 the dallas police just called it incidental not really investigating it not even like trying to
00:56:01.820 obtain security footage around the you know to see who it was like these guys who can do speed
00:56:06.380 cams on everybody else they're just totally uninterested and the comments on those those
00:56:11.300 videos and and she reads them her name is sabah she you know it's all like um you know i wish
00:56:17.260 they would have hit you know so sad that he missed wish your baby was there there's a sickness that
00:56:23.260 really really is is uh is urgent to be dealt with and you read the comments on san diego i gave
00:56:29.400 khutbah there on friday you know on thursday they found a device around the masjid they arrested
00:56:34.440 someone with the nazi flag um close to the masjid in san diego on thursday night um before before
00:56:41.280 jamaa on friday they got a lot of a lot of there are a lot of sick people that um you know that
00:56:50.560 are around us and and that's a that's a sad reality to reckon with here you know that we have to deal
00:56:56.360 with that and you know we try to educate those who are genuinely misinformed there are good people 0.93
00:57:00.880 who are misinformed it's it's hard to as like a palestinian it's hard to even think about the idea
00:57:06.440 that you could still be misinformed this late like like i almost could somewhat see it prior
00:57:12.520 you know prior to 2023 that maybe you were genuinely misinformed but like how can you at
00:57:17.240 this point with all the shadow banning and everything else like you've got to really really
00:57:20.120 look into your your own lack of humanity if uh if you're still on that side and if you're still
00:57:25.080 whitewashing this stuff so what is the purpose of the umma and where should we be going right now
00:57:31.400 how do we unite and what should we be thinking and what does that mean what is the collective umah
00:57:39.320 so there are several um rounds of that sorry man like the caffeine is getting to me right now
00:57:48.120 there are several spheres here so one of them is that as a community right we have to recognize
00:57:55.080 the urgency that we have and we have to be willing to put aside our differences
00:57:59.240 personal differences um ideological differences to an extent um i mean there are different
00:58:07.320 layers of ideological differences but put aside differences in general
00:58:11.400 both personal ideological theological um to confront a greater evil right like look when
00:58:17.640 these killers walked into the measures in christ church the two measures in christ church when when
00:58:21.800 uh tarrant walked that he wasn't thinking about who these muslims were he was just thinking i'm 0.99
00:58:25.080 i'm going to go kill the muslims these two kids went to the message in san diego they're not 0.98
00:58:30.280 they're not picking us apart in that way um when when our enemies try to eradicate us they're not 1.00
00:58:36.300 distinguishing us from each other so we need to be careful not to um create uh further fracture
00:58:42.580 amongst ourselves that can be exploited right so uh there is a a domestic component to that which
00:58:49.660 is that american muslims are in a position where you know they can speak in ways that other people 0.70
00:58:56.840 can't like in a lot of countries you can't say things against zionists the way that we can for
00:59:02.880 example right like you know the israeli government you know targets me puts me on a report but at
00:59:09.360 the end of the day i'm in america i can speak i can still speak i mean obviously there are
00:59:13.100 there are different measures that are being taken to criminalize and to um you know to take away our
00:59:18.880 right to speak and different you know uh arms of the government are being weaponized against the
00:59:24.580 community right now whether it's ice or something else but the point is is like we are we we have
00:59:29.420 the biggest megaphone right now to speak on behalf of oppressed muslims around the world too
00:59:33.760 so we have to also sort of embrace our responsibility to come together and to use
00:59:39.820 to use what we have to speak on behalf of the oppressed around the world that means the
00:59:44.280 oppressed around the corner that means the oppressed around the world that means muslim 0.64
00:59:46.900 or non-Muslim. We don't just speak up for oppressed Muslims. We hate oppression. We hate
00:59:50.660 injustice because Allah told us to hate injustice and hate oppression. We have a responsibility to
00:59:55.760 the global oppressed who happen to be disproportionately Muslim. The victims of
00:59:59.680 the American war machine are disproportionately Muslim. The victims of the American Israeli war
01:00:04.360 machine are disproportionately Muslim. So we have a responsibility to speak up for them,
01:00:07.880 to do our part for them, to demonstrate unity, to demonstrate what it looks like when people
01:00:15.020 work together to confront a greater evil so they're sometimes working for a greater cause
01:00:18.860 and sometimes confronting a greater evil um but the key word here is greater and when you when
01:00:25.580 you impose your differences um you know onto the banner of what unites you then we have a lot more
01:00:34.820 that unites us and we need to bring that that family together and i want to make it clear
01:00:39.040 because i know you have a lot of non-muslim viewers like the the unity of ummah does not
01:00:43.340 mean that the hatred of all else are like going no it's there are there are um grounds
01:00:51.260 for commonality and um ushering in you know righteousness justice uh fighting injustice
01:01:00.900 that exists at different layers here so in the same way that the strengthening the family
01:01:07.180 does not mean not strengthening the umma strengthening the family means strengthening
01:01:10.700 the community means strengthening the umma and ultimately we're an umma that allah commanded
01:01:16.140 to enjoy good and forbid evil for all of humanity to be witnesses upon people and so a stronger umma
01:01:23.340 is good for for humanity as a whole this is not like a uh you know here they are and because because
01:01:28.780 i know the the talking points of disloyalty get played uh constantly like oh they don't have
01:01:34.060 actual goodwill uh to uh you know to the american public or to their to your american non-muslim
01:01:41.500 neighbor or family member because you know uh of your loyalty to the umad that's not true
01:01:48.060 like i actually deeply care about my neighbors i deeply care about my community as a whole i
01:01:52.940 deeply care about people that are in poverty around me i deeply care about their future
01:01:57.580 whether they're muslim or not and i and i deeply hate oppression even when it's against someone
01:02:02.860 who doesn't share my faith and that's because of my faith if anything like you're going to talk 0.99
01:02:07.740 about you know again how irresponsible and destructive zionism is and how it's uh completely 0.84
01:02:14.620 you know uh in in the focus and the interest of this ethno state at the detriment of everybody
01:02:20.540 else and you got to be asking questions about congressmen that are supposed to be representing
01:02:25.740 american cities or american states or districts right what senators are representatives obviously
01:02:30.940 and completely prioritizing a foreign genocidal apartheid ethnostate
01:02:37.220 over their own communities and districts.
01:02:39.140 You should be asking these questions to Lindsey Graham.
01:02:42.160 I'm not the person that you should be questioning about dual loyalty.
01:02:45.640 You should be asking Lindsey Graham about it.
01:02:47.920 Just listen to his own words.
01:02:51.520 What is that man doing for his own?
01:02:54.140 I haven't heard him say anything about South Carolina.
01:02:56.480 Not one word. 0.99
01:02:57.940 everything he says is about how he wants americans to die in israel and then they'll 0.96
01:03:02.680 accuse muslims to say oh you have dual allegiance because you know we want to spread goodness like 0.94
01:03:08.680 we want people to become muslim but the same people that demonize that ideology will also
01:03:13.020 say every knee shall bow every knee will bow is a part of christian doctrine of course if you 1.00
01:03:17.440 believe you have the truth you'd want other people to know so this is just a stupid rhetoric that 0.99
01:03:21.860 people think is antithetical they say islamic values are not compatible with american values 0.99
01:03:26.020 well american values are freedom of religion and american values if you're going to go cry about 1.00
01:03:29.860 the demographic replacement also mean porn also mean feminism also mean that girls can open and 1.00
01:03:36.340 only fans at 18 so if you are upset about an ideology that would prevent that the issue 0.98
01:03:42.340 contributing to your demographic replacement then don't get mad about your demographic being replaced
01:03:47.940 and i i think you're sorry yes no no go ahead go ahead yeah you made a great point i don't
01:03:54.260 don't want to keep you too long i know you're fasting but this is an interesting conversation
01:03:57.020 i think mom donny is a perfect example of this unity and unifying over the greater issues rather
01:04:01.860 than hyper fixating on the smaller ones he has made more of an impact on american politics in
01:04:07.180 seven months as a new york city mayor than any democrat or any republican when it comes to the
01:04:11.540 most important issue in 10 years in 10 years the israelis are so upset about him they are mad that
01:04:17.120 he's not showing up to the israeli day parade you have the dsa chanting uh fa pack this is the
01:04:22.020 Israeli lobby that they admit has the most amount of power in America. And although he is a leftist
01:04:27.360 and there's a lot of things that we disagree on, he's right about the most important issue. And
01:04:31.140 that's what we should unite on. When I was supporting him last year, I got a lot of
01:04:34.820 criticism from my community and online. They're like, oh, are you a communist? Are you supportive
01:04:38.660 of this and that? I'm like, no, I'm not. But he's right about the most important thing. So look at
01:04:44.040 what he's done already with New York City and look what he's done already to push the Democratic 0.59
01:04:48.300 party away from their undying allegiance to israel now the next democrat that runs they see
01:04:53.340 his populist movement they are going to have to adapt to his rhetoric they will now have to change
01:04:58.140 and they will now have to say free palisine if they want any support this did not happen without
01:05:02.700 mamdani so perfect example of uniting on what's most important rather than dividing on cultural
01:05:09.020 cultural war issues yeah so i wanted i wanted to just say one thing on on what was said before this
01:05:14.700 and then i'll say something about this and i actually have to just go pray awesome man that's
01:05:17.820 all it is man i i i enjoyed the conversation with you as well and i could we could we can do this
01:05:21.740 much longer inshallah and hopefully another day um but on on the previous side of this um
01:05:29.420 you know i had put something out there um a few days ago might have even been yesterday
01:05:36.300 about how israeli propaganda functions on the same ideas that you see cutting across 0.99
01:05:42.460 these racists here in the united states which is we have to kill them or else they're going to take 0.99
01:05:46.220 over we have to kill them or else they're going to take over and someone responded with something 0.99
01:05:50.140 that i just found um really um you know profound and i'm going to get it wrong but i'll say it uh 0.97
01:05:58.940 the spirit of which was perhaps they're directing you to this you know fake muslim takeover to 0.83
01:06:06.540 distract you from those who have already taken over your government which are the zionists 0.99
01:06:09.900 right like it's maybe that's why there's so much of this they're going to take over they're going 1.00
01:06:15.220 to take over they're going to take like the absurd amount of control that apac has over
01:06:21.880 our politicians is nuts democrat and republican right like there was an article that was written
01:06:27.540 a few years ago um like something along the lines of apac is to the democrats what the nra is to
01:06:35.140 republicans but this idea of like lobbies like this is not new right these these pack this pack
01:06:39.780 has had an enormous amount of control across the board across both parties right being a pack
01:06:44.600 the second part of that is that i would say that you know to to the question of mandani
01:06:50.660 mamdani i would put also with mamdani thomas massey right this idea that exactly if you talk
01:06:57.000 about something that cuts across right and left here and how tone deaf the democratic party is
01:07:02.760 particular because democrats are still if you listen to mainstream democrats they're still 0.94
01:07:08.200 touting the same garbage talking points that are going to cause them to lose again and again and
01:07:12.680 again if they don't if they don't tap into just the basic uh change in understanding of their own 0.97
01:07:20.840 constituents of their own party of of how how unfavorable views are towards israel right now
01:07:26.680 how disgusted people are by settler colonialism and genocide and again the continued expansion
01:07:32.760 into the west bank so the fact of the matter is that like you're seeing what aipac had to do to
01:07:39.400 get you know what they had to spend to try to get massey out and they did unfortunately you know
01:07:46.200 yeah the fact that they have to pour that type of money into races like follow follow the money man
01:07:51.880 Like it's what they did to get rid of Massey, what they did to get rid of Cori Bush, for example, in Missouri, on the Democrat side.
01:08:00.240 Right. So, again, you're transcending that left and right.
01:08:04.520 Definitely Mamdani frustrates AIPAC and frustrates these people to no end.
01:08:09.960 And, you know, that's something to be happy about for sure, while still, as you said, maintaining significant disagreement with, you know, some of the political positions and stuff like that, that he would have and that others would have that would be in that pro-Palestine camp.
01:08:26.100 Like, it's just not going to be neat.
01:08:28.000 But I think that there's something encouraging about both on the right and the left, seeing the turning trends, right?
01:08:35.900 And when I get down about some of the stuff that I told you about, which is like, man, there are like people that will smile on your face, but do not have a problem with you being massacred and would go online and laugh about it after smiling at you at the grocery store.
01:08:50.960 when i get down about that i try to remind myself that there is a trend that there is a that there
01:08:57.240 is a turn that's happening right now um a wave in uh you know in this country um across the
01:09:02.860 political aisle that um hopefully will be will be shaken and um will be a part of waking many
01:09:08.580 more people up it's not left and right it's right and wrong almost thank you so much i know you have
01:09:13.400 to fast i appreciate you taking the time i'm sure you're exhausted i wish i was fasting and
01:09:18.260 until the next year i'll do it for this but it could for the next rest of the month i would
01:09:22.100 love to speak to you again when you have some time i have a lot more that i want to get to
01:09:26.100 when it comes to specific theology questions uh comparative religion especially about um musa
01:09:31.940 alayhi salam and unfortunately we just don't have the time to get to it today so it was great to
01:09:35.700 finally get to speak to you and may all increase and protect you thank you for you know what you
01:09:41.460 do for the umma we support you and uh i would love you for the sake of allah thank you so much man
01:09:46.660 May Allah bless you.
01:09:47.480 It's great to talk to you as well, inshallah.
01:09:48.960 We'll do this again.
01:09:49.860 As-salamu alaykum.
01:09:50.780 Wa alaykum as-salam wa rahmatullah.