SHNEAKO - April 24, 2026


SNEAKO interviews Prince of Malaysia TMJ 🇲🇾


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00:00:00.000 What I did was I built youth centers in all over the state.
00:00:06.300 So Johor has 10 districts, so every single district I built youth centers for the youth.
00:00:11.640 So at least they can have their activities, whether it's sports or any activities, educational activities as well.
00:00:18.740 So that's what I do, just to keep the youth active, doing productive things.
00:00:25.380 I saw them playing football over here. Was that what this was?
00:00:28.160 was my son oh yeah actually it's his youth team so that is one of the ways I get him to interact
00:00:36.380 with people closer to the people so yeah because one day is his time oh he's next yeah yeah so
00:00:44.580 it's not an easy job and have you always been involved in sports or I have always been involved
00:00:49.940 in sports yes what would you say is your favorite sport my my own personal private
00:00:55.600 hobby that I love
00:00:57.040 is polo
00:00:57.900 I was going to assume 0.81
00:00:59.520 polo
00:00:59.880 but the thing is that
00:01:01.400 with polo
00:01:02.240 it's just me
00:01:04.500 with football
00:01:07.180 or you call it soccer
00:01:08.600 I can get myself
00:01:10.360 involved with
00:01:11.320 people
00:01:12.060 I call it football
00:01:12.880 I call it soccer
00:01:16.500 based off what we heard
00:01:18.080 at the stadium
00:01:18.500 I thought it was going to be
00:01:19.260 football was your
00:01:20.040 strong suit
00:01:21.020 I'm surprised
00:01:21.780 what I love about football
00:01:23.080 is
00:01:23.540 I can share it
00:01:25.500 with the people thank you i mean when we have victory or whatever of course it's more connected
00:01:30.780 it's more engagement that i can enjoy uh with the people of johore so yeah that's that's the thing
00:01:37.620 you spend your whole life here in johore yes but i i did my boarding school i studied in australia
00:01:44.660 in perth so i did that for five years and then when i came back here i was thrown into a military
00:01:52.700 academy in india and then i served the indian army for for four and a half years so i was like about
00:01:57.740 six and a half years there why india good question i think because uh there was a history
00:02:05.820 between the johor military forces and india we in johor we're the only state with our own military
00:02:12.060 forces we joined the federation in 1943 and then so one of the conditions is we keep our own
00:02:20.220 military forces and there were three officers from the Johor military force
00:02:25.800 that was trained in India. At that time Dehradun, India, is known as
00:02:30.100 Sandhurst of the East, very British. So I was sent there and I think my late
00:02:36.240 grandfather wants to keep the history going at the same time there's no
00:02:41.460 special treatment there so he wants me to really go through the whole thing you
00:02:45.900 know and life there is very tough so I was yes I was there about six and a half
00:02:51.220 years in total training for two years serving for four and a half years then
00:02:56.460 came back here and joined the special forces is there a strong bond between
00:03:01.260 India and Malaysia or Johor specifically with Johor yes with Johor yes with the
00:03:08.860 Johor military force I think the more of the Indian army with Johor military
00:03:12.300 But not Kuala Lumpur?
00:03:14.460 No, I'm not sure.
00:03:16.180 I'm not sure about that.
00:03:17.560 I think Malaysia is pretty close.
00:03:19.040 I mean, we don't have any conflicts with any country.
00:03:20.760 I think they're pretty close, especially Asian countries.
00:03:24.620 So, Johor and Kuala Lumpur, it seems like they're very distinct.
00:03:28.120 Do they operate like distinct countries?
00:03:31.720 I mean, we're the first state to have our own constitution.
00:03:36.160 So, when it comes to governance,
00:03:39.780 When it comes to governance, yeah, we do our own thing.
00:03:45.900 We uphold our constitution and within our rules and laws.
00:03:50.540 And, yeah, but we do compromise each other.
00:03:53.020 We do work together very, very well.
00:03:55.420 So it's like a semi-independent state.
00:03:59.300 I'm trying to be as diplomatic as I can.
00:04:04.500 I'm not very good at that.
00:04:06.980 You don't think so?
00:04:08.340 I'm not very good at that.
00:04:09.780 I'm surprised you say that.
00:04:11.780 Do hand hug.
00:04:15.780 And how do you... you were in Indonesia, I believe? 1.00
00:04:18.780 Yeah, I got a little bit of Jakarta belly, but back to normal, yeah, not the best.
00:04:22.780 Very crowded?
00:04:24.780 It was crowded. I was a little ambitious with the street food.
00:04:27.780 And so what I've noticed out here, it's my first time coming here,
00:04:30.780 is that the Malaysians and Indonesians, they go back and forth about the batik.
00:04:34.780 So they were saying, like, this batik, for example, I was...
00:04:37.780 was i wanted to make sure i look proper and malaysian they're like it looks too indonesian
00:04:41.240 so they're telling me to change but and people are talking about the origins yeah yeah but i
00:04:47.220 want everyone to i want a little more unity right now with the way the what the world is try to be
00:04:51.620 a little more diplomatic 100 100 that's something that i think uh most of us overlooked they're a
00:04:58.480 bigger picture for the world to be united right now especially with currently what's happening
00:05:02.700 in the world right now,
00:05:03.620 it's just unbelievable.
00:05:06.740 Yeah. 1.00
00:05:07.580 Especially Muslim country.
00:05:10.540 To be very united.
00:05:11.500 Especially Muslim countries.
00:05:12.700 Yeah.
00:05:13.340 That's the point of this tour.
00:05:16.260 I see.
00:05:18.160 And it seems like the Strait of Malacca
00:05:21.500 could be next.
00:05:22.280 So now that the Strait of Hormuz is closed,
00:05:24.520 it looks like the next target Trump has
00:05:26.500 or the U.S. has eyes set on
00:05:27.960 is the Strait of Malacca.
00:05:28.840 Really?
00:05:29.560 Yeah, I think that the U.S.
00:05:31.400 wants all the major choke points you know i hope not i hope not i heard uh the other day
00:05:38.840 indonesian one of the indonesian ministers come up with a with a statement about maybe to pay
00:05:44.440 taxes in the straits of malacca that's what i heard but i don't know whether it'll come up to
00:05:49.280 that hopefully not because it has i mean it has always been very good relationship between
00:05:53.700 singapore malaysia and indonesia really yeah very good relationship i mean for a long long time so
00:05:59.160 I hope it will stay that way me too yeah so we just don't want anybody to come in
00:06:05.340 trying to instigate everything because everything has been good you know we
00:06:08.520 coexist with each other I think that's what human being is to do we need to
00:06:12.600 coexist with each other respecting one another's belief and religion ethnic
00:06:18.660 doesn't matter that's one thing I have to compliment your country on is the way
00:06:23.520 that the Hindus and the Indians coexist with the Christians here yeah and the
00:06:27.360 muslims there were you talking about the stadium for example everybody will come there the indians
00:06:31.340 the chinese yeah and there's no division especially in johor maybe in the future for you to understand
00:06:39.920 a bit more um maybe in the future it's not a bad idea if you stay here longer so you can see it
00:06:45.520 for yourself i mean here there's a lot of unity in johor especially compared to any other state
00:06:51.520 in Malaysia, I believe. If you go, I mean anywhere, whether it's a football match, if you see me
00:06:59.260 one day when you're free, if I take you, we go randomly in a mall or any restaurant for that
00:07:06.140 matter, you can see how excited the Indians or the Chinese receive me. And I'm a Malay.
00:07:12.680 I mean, it's very different compared to other states, but I think Johor has a very, very
00:07:17.740 strong sense of unity well you definitely put in all the effort to make it happen that way as well
00:07:23.720 yeah like uh you know he was mentioning as soon as you came in to the stadium or as soon as they
00:07:29.560 came to the you know the football activities you took things to a whole nother level yeah not many
00:07:34.960 people like it yeah i have to slow down a little well yeah you guys keep winning right 12 league
00:07:41.740 titles that's no joke that's the that's the thing i don't know so you said that you're very busy
00:07:49.100 and obviously i can't imagine what it's like for a prince but what do you think is the major
00:07:54.020 distinction between a elected politician and royalty like yourself all different i mean but
00:08:01.660 we both share something in common which is we are here to serve the people and that's it improve
00:08:06.400 their lives so the government officials politicians there because they serve the
00:08:12.280 people they are voted by the people and I am there making sure that a right
00:08:18.460 mechanism or the right effort has been put in to improve the lives of the
00:08:24.520 people here in our country especially in my state and for example education for
00:08:30.280 that matter education or state infrastructure economy job job opportunities
00:08:37.180 as well so these are the things that we're trying to improve and having new
00:08:43.520 politicians coming in especially the younger generations which is more
00:08:48.220 energetic and they want to put in more I mean implement more new ideas the thing
00:08:55.360 is that what I see now the latest trend in Malaysia is everybody wants to be
00:09:03.540 popular hmm sometimes you have to take non popular decision in order for things
00:09:11.380 to work so everybody can talk about a vision or a theory but I'm more about
00:09:20.260 practical what's there on the ground you have to understand it to make it work so
00:09:23.960 it's not just a vision because vision without execution is hallucination so the idea is to
00:09:30.600 implement the idea try to make it work understand it properly that's what yes because sometimes we
00:09:36.560 invite people uh giving talk from let's say holland about youth what does he understand about
00:09:42.640 our culture what does he understand how we're going to make things work so things like that
00:09:48.520 so we have a lot of qualified people who knows but don't just say things to be popular to get
00:09:57.420 the vote or to get people to like you just say things what is needed to be said like for example
00:10:02.420 we have a really forgive my language we have a really shitty educational system and we have to
00:10:08.960 change that and that's it because in the end of the day when we put a lot of focus on the youth
00:10:13.860 these are the future leaders of tomorrow that's why we we put in extra effort for
00:10:18.300 them things like that well it's amazing that you know that thought process is
00:10:23.820 there to help the people that's absolutely yeah but for example in Johor
00:10:27.720 I try to do it in the academic side but at the same time I also not neglecting
00:10:35.160 the sports side so that's why I have Sunny Bill here I have so up lately I
00:10:39.120 I have Khabib with MMA and then Datuk Lee Chong Wei which is ex former world
00:10:45.180 number one badminton player he's with badminton I have our players our netball
00:10:51.840 players from Australia international netball players from Australia everyone
00:10:56.580 coming here participating also not only trying to lift the quality and the level
00:11:03.660 of the sport but also guiding the youth at the same time educating them through
00:11:08.520 sports. And sports is an international language as well. It unites people. It is a very, very
00:11:16.400 strong unifying factor. Of course. And I know as you talk about the youth a lot, what would
00:11:20.880 you say is missing for the youth in Johar? For me, education is one. And more positive
00:11:33.460 activities in the real world sorry i mean you know more here in the real world don't just be too
00:11:41.080 um obsessed about everything in the internet you know now you have things like cyber bullying
00:11:47.920 the other day i was in the university and then they say okay how do we deal with cyber bullying
00:11:52.920 i said simple switch off your phone or don't go on the internet just live your life you know
00:11:58.380 things like that so sometimes people are too bothered about what people say in the internet
00:12:03.340 and it really really worked out and some people can get depressed and things like that and
00:12:07.300 so yeah so you're trying to have them adapt that more tough mentality of course and that's we need
00:12:14.420 to give birth to real men yes so let's go what do you think was the most controversial thing you had
00:12:22.580 to say that was ended up being correct but people were off-put when you first said it
00:12:28.700 i don't remember i don't remember but i i said a lot of things i guess that's something like
00:12:35.440 the cyberbullying one that's something i say people get rarely really but it's the it's a
00:12:39.320 practical solution to a problem that only exists if you look at your phone obviously it's a good
00:12:43.240 example of that to me it's like trying to live in the real world and see the bigger picture
00:12:47.220 because sometimes we get too hooked up in the um in the small things that we we neglect or
00:12:54.560 somehow we take things for granted you know before before i used to care also about what
00:13:01.500 people say and things like that because oh my god we're trying to do this but people don't
00:13:04.800 understand and they did try to portray another picture of you or a character
00:13:09.140 character assassination and things like that things like this happen of course of course
00:13:12.500 but then i realized that there are more important things in life like for example waking up in the
00:13:18.280 morning after doing fajar then spending some time with your kids before you start your day
00:13:24.320 go to the gym you know sending them to school seeing them come back laughing healthy those
00:13:33.000 type of things that makes you happy and makes you realize that i'm grateful and then of course
00:13:39.980 to see the condition of living in gaza in in palestine what they are going through or in
00:13:46.180 any other african countries you just have to realize how blessed and how fortunate you are
00:13:51.240 obviously not much we can do we can do as much as we can we can voice out pray giving donation and
00:13:58.140 you know pray to Allah and hopefully that those people one day will have a better life but
00:14:05.600 it's very very difficult so that's why sometimes when I'm with my kids and they want something and
00:14:11.340 I said no and then they throw tantrums and I say hey do you know that it's not easy look at how
00:14:16.840 people live there you should realize how fortunate you are so things like that i think we need to
00:14:21.800 realize how lucky we are how blessed we are because i realize the younger generations here
00:14:27.340 they complain a lot you know oh this is not enough or this is not good enough or this
00:14:33.660 minister is not good enough well you must understand realistically speaking for any
00:14:38.400 government officials or even myself to fix anything it takes time you can't fix anything
00:14:43.900 just like that yes you can implement the idea and then there is a due diligence process of how to
00:14:49.480 make it work but younger generations today is a bit impatient in my in my opinion i agree very
00:14:55.980 we got tiktok brain yeah we have to we have to say hey hold on i mean there is effort being made
00:15:02.500 but just give time so now in in this country it's like if things doesn't work for two years okay
00:15:08.760 We want to change the government
00:15:09.600 Okay
00:15:11.060 And then when
00:15:12.300 Again another two years
00:15:13.680 Things doesn't work
00:15:14.280 We're going to change
00:15:14.940 The government again
00:15:15.600 But that only
00:15:16.800 Bringing up
00:15:19.960 Instability
00:15:21.200 It's almost like
00:15:22.340 The youth is missing wisdom
00:15:23.860 Yeah
00:15:24.280 They're missing the wisdom
00:15:26.880 In things
00:15:27.340 Yes
00:15:27.720 They want everything fast
00:15:29.140 And you know
00:15:30.160 That's what Allah
00:15:30.720 Subhanahu wa ta'ala said
00:15:31.440 Yeah
00:15:31.740 That indeed
00:15:32.620 Adam
00:15:33.860 Yeah
00:15:34.340 When Adam was first created
00:15:36.200 The first thing he did
00:15:37.360 He reached for the fruits
00:15:38.420 And Allah says indeed
00:15:40.440 Mankind is always in haste
00:15:42.840 That God created us
00:15:44.840 And we're always in haste
00:15:45.880 And also we're always ungrateful as well
00:15:47.560 Yeah
00:15:47.980 Yeah the pitch we were
00:15:56.800 Playing on earlier that was
00:15:58.340 Boke up a real sweat
00:16:00.460 You know we are the first team
00:16:02.180 With our own training facilities
00:16:03.760 Really? In the whole country
00:16:05.960 Can you believe that?
00:16:08.420 You really changed the game, man.
00:16:10.420 But what does that tell you? Ignorant. 1.00
00:16:14.420 Taking things too lightly, you know. 0.98
00:16:17.420 I realized one thing, this is very controversial about what I'm gonna say,
00:16:21.420 but I'm gonna say it anyway, I don't care.
00:16:23.420 But it's the truth.
00:16:25.420 This country like to talk about, especially the new generation,
00:16:28.420 they like to talk about changes.
00:16:30.420 They like to bring in ideas.
00:16:32.420 Everybody have their own ideas.
00:16:34.420 Everybody talk about, oh, we have to change, we have to improve,
00:16:37.420 we have to do this but no one does anything no one does anything and that to me is it's sad
00:16:46.380 it's like all talk no action exactly and i'm the only one we come up with our first stadium we're
00:16:52.080 coming up with we came up with our first um training facilities trying to improve spotting
00:16:57.820 facilities in the in the in our state that hopefully it will be a domino effect which
00:17:02.940 other states will follow.
00:17:05.600 We've been doing it for the last
00:17:06.920 12-13 years, but
00:17:09.000 so far the progress is a bit
00:17:11.220 too slow.
00:17:13.220 I hope it will improve,
00:17:15.120 but it takes time.
00:17:17.620 What is the greater vision
00:17:18.660 of Johor?
00:17:20.820 I want it to be the best
00:17:22.560 economic hub.
00:17:24.640 In terms of not only job
00:17:26.400 opportunities, best infrastructure
00:17:28.840 in terms of economy as well,
00:17:31.220 and then healthcare.
00:17:32.940 education i want to see more qualified people serving the government also state glcs or ngos
00:17:41.340 having more qualified people people that can think and make a decision rationally you know
00:17:49.980 people can just sit down i mean good self-esteem confidence so that's why i i implement i always
00:17:57.980 push education since since the first day i became the region so that's what i want johol to be
00:18:04.220 and and obviously i hope other states will also follow they have their own they have their own
00:18:10.700 priority which i truly respect but like i said i think we should focus on things which we need to
00:18:18.700 focus i love that you focus on education because what they're saying right now is ignorance is a
00:18:24.780 disease that's spreading throughout the world and the only thing that could cure
00:18:28.020 this disease is knowledge exactly exactly yep 0.51
00:18:32.220 ignorant is the key to chaos and economically wise does it help having
00:18:38.280 Singapore nearby as far as a percent amazing hundred percent I mean we are 0.56
00:18:42.600 very close to the Singapore government for years you know we share a lot of
00:18:47.220 things from Singapore and I think they also have good technology things that
00:18:54.120 they can also contribute what do you call it work and collaborate with the
00:18:58.860 state as well so yeah it does help because they have a lot of expertise
00:19:03.540 that they can share with us for example water management things like that very
00:19:09.300 good educational system so yeah I think that it gives out the advantage to be
00:19:14.760 closer to Singapore yes amazing the other day I was joking with one of the
00:19:20.900 Singapore government officials. I'm like, hey, your foreign minister said there's the
00:19:24.980 Straits of Singapore. I thought it's the Straits of Johor. So he said, no, there is
00:19:28.980 the Straits of Singapore. I said, yes. And then he sent me the map. He sent me a picture
00:19:32.960 of the map and it's true. So there's the Straits of Johor and then behind it, there's the Straits of Singapore.
00:19:37.140 I said, oh, sorry, my bad.
00:19:41.340 I'm very close to them. I like to work like that.
00:19:45.440 Not too official. You can work over coffee. But in the end
00:19:48.940 of the day is the agenda. Fulfill the agenda. That's it. And do you feel like more gets done
00:19:53.600 that way instead of having the whole official way? If you have too much red tape, no, no chance.
00:19:58.500 Then it takes too much protocol to make a change happen. Exactly. Exactly. I like that, man. I like
00:20:03.680 that. I like to sometimes, even with Malaysian government officials, I just give them a call
00:20:09.800 and say, hey, you know, we're getting this issue. Maybe we can have a sit down and have a talk or
00:20:14.140 something like that we have a meeting trying to get things done instead of alhamdulillah
00:20:19.100 it works really really well yeah you seem to think that the the younger generation
00:20:26.020 they spend time talking about change rather than doing change here in malaysia specifically yeah
00:20:31.880 this is all over america too this is dominating leftist politics i think and right politics both
00:20:37.880 are pretty much the same or people like to voice the problems but what do you think that we could
00:20:43.000 do the average citizen can do if we're not politicians if we're not royalty what can we do
00:20:47.640 to steer the world in a place that's better i think there must be an understanding or an ecosystem
00:20:55.320 which communication is the key right so engagement from politicians or even royal family to listen to
00:21:02.860 the people more and not only listening but be very realistic and also educate them if there's
00:21:09.200 something that can't be done instead of promising them or giving them an empty promise or a hope
00:21:15.800 you just say like look this thing is like this maybe we could do it this way instead of this
00:21:21.660 way you know because sometimes not many people understand the due diligence or or the insight
00:21:28.980 of how to get things done within the government there's a lot of process financially things like
00:21:34.740 that paperwork and stuff so in the end of the day i mean there must be a platform or a foundation
00:21:43.400 where you can voice out your opinion and obviously like i said this i mean these people are voted by
00:21:50.320 you so they are somehow obligated to listen and to serve the people and to make it work
00:21:57.140 whether whether you like it or not so yeah that's that's that's it sometimes even like
00:22:04.560 for example i give you just a small example water management it's not just about building
00:22:10.820 the infrastructure it's also you have to educate the people of how to use the water not to waste
00:22:16.200 it you know so things like that but sometimes what politicians tend to do is like oh yeah but
00:22:21.340 If we say this, they might get upset and it might affect their vote.
00:22:29.640 Especially also religious matters, you know.
00:22:33.540 And you can't be like that.
00:22:34.660 And that's where the royalty come in.
00:22:36.740 And where the royal family, I mean, me, myself, or other royalties can also come in and say,
00:22:43.060 look, this is how it is.
00:22:44.300 Because we don't need votes.
00:22:45.400 We just have to say it as it is.
00:22:47.980 That's how the check and balance happen in this country.
00:22:50.020 it's like the saying you can give a man a fish and he eats for a day you teach a man a fish and
00:22:54.800 he can eat forever that's where we need something like that yeah and it's also it's like you're
00:23:00.140 saying you know it's like giving them that harsh truth instead of the comfortable lie yeah and then
00:23:06.260 getting their hopes up you know just saying that no this is it's not gonna happen it's not gonna
00:23:12.360 happen it's impossible for it to happen what is the ideal relationship right now it's a good
00:23:17.860 relationship with america there are military bases that the u.s has in indonesia and malaysia
00:23:23.120 correct not malaysia not malaysia just indonesia i think even singapore i thought u.s had a base
00:23:29.340 in singapore but it's not it's actually a navy naval port that all other other countries can
00:23:36.360 also utilize but the u.s is there most of the time so pretty much they just sit there so maybe
00:23:43.020 china feels like okay i don't want to go there the u.s is there so something like that i don't
00:23:46.920 know okay but no naval base in malaysia i do not know about indonesia okay yeah what would the
00:23:54.920 ideal relationship be or what do you think that americans should think of malaysia i think that
00:24:00.320 the biggest wake-up call i had it was we were always told malaysia was a third world country
00:24:04.400 yeah and then you come here and you're like that's not true that's a lie what's the ideal
00:24:10.040 relationship you have with america if you even care that much about the perception that we have
00:24:15.460 Because we Americans, we pride ourselves a lot and we believe that our opinions are the most important.
00:24:20.920 I don't know if the rest of the world has to follow that, but it does seem like it's our foreign policy doctrine, peace to strength.
00:24:27.400 What do you think that that relationship should be like?
00:24:31.720 I think how America approached the world is the most important thing.
00:24:36.600 About understanding different culture, different country has different customs, different rules, different way of doing things.
00:24:42.700 it's not just about you know in some places for example some places um what you call it
00:24:50.940 like things i mean certain things that u.s wants to implement doesn't work
00:24:57.580 you know um yeah same goes with malaysia as well so i think you have to understand it
00:25:05.320 because I don't think people just hate America for no reason.
00:25:11.840 Yeah.
00:25:12.340 Yeah.
00:25:12.920 That's a misconception.
00:25:14.100 Exactly.
00:25:14.620 So it's not that.
00:25:16.600 I mean, Malaysian people are very, very friendly.
00:25:18.320 They're very open.
00:25:19.360 If you come up with a good idea, okay, but let's do it this way,
00:25:23.520 which will not somehow step on NBAD's foot 0.81
00:25:26.720 by still respecting the religion,
00:25:29.020 still respecting the culture and things like that.
00:25:31.220 So I think that's how the approach that the U.S. should do
00:25:34.420 because that's what the british did right right with that approach a softer approach to everything
00:25:38.960 so i think in terms of diplomacy in terms of working together that's how it's supposed to be
00:25:44.440 it that's just my personal opinion well it seems like the british are more cultured
00:25:49.680 when it comes to of course different you know yeah different cultures religions stuff like that
00:25:54.740 america is just like very hard-headed and it seems like not all country can i mean democracy
00:26:01.320 does not work in everywhere there are certain places that will never work when it comes to
00:26:05.700 democracy so you cannot just because oh you believe in democracy well other world has to
00:26:10.240 accept it it's not that because things are very different like i said cultural very different
00:26:16.160 diversity very different religion religious aspect is also very very different and it plays a part
00:26:21.900 in everyday lives
00:26:23.360 and it doesn't really seem like america really wants democracy everywhere it's more like we
00:26:31.220 just want control over the entire world and if you don't fall in line with our belief system and
00:26:36.100 that we should be number one then we're going to regime change and we're going to start some issues
00:26:41.840 for now certainly that's how the way it is yeah and so we have to be very very smart dealing with
00:26:51.260 it uh diplomatically yeah that's the only way yeah you know every every place in the world
00:26:59.900 Yeah. How was your relationship with Anwar Ibrahim, PMX, they call him?
00:27:06.220 Good, good, very good. I have a very good relationship with all politicians except one.
00:27:13.520 But yeah, very good. I was very, very good. I mean, we work together. The good thing is
00:27:19.080 I realized that he's a more elder person, but he listens. That's the good thing. Listen
00:27:28.400 meaning if i give my opinion or give my advice he does listen and sometimes you know senior
00:27:36.480 politicians when we are younger when we speak to them some they do not care what we just i mean
00:27:42.680 what we're talking about some they pretend to listen and actually know they completely do not
00:27:49.200 even remember what you just said but pmx always come back to me i mean if we do not see each
00:27:54.580 other for months and then come back to me and say hey regarding thing you said your highness
00:27:57.820 a few months back um it's like this now so at least shows that he cares and then he does listen
00:28:06.420 and he does take it into account your thoughts um for your ideas yeah he was he met uh my father
00:28:17.080 and then he was here with me yeah i like the abbreviations of pmx uh they have tmj what do
00:28:24.400 you prefer your highness should we call it your highness tungku they were also saying in the chat
00:28:28.040 they have a lot of nicknames for you the malay yeah yeah yeah there's too many actually
00:28:31.340 good and bad but i haven't heard any bad ones i hope not or didn't repeat any
00:28:38.240 people call it i mean people call it tmj because it's a short abbreviation yeah and like uh the
00:28:47.740 call sign between the palace if they my father and me is joe one and joe two or j1 j2 okay that's
00:28:53.880 call sign that's our military call sign so j1 just landed or j2 things like that you know
00:29:01.960 the security protocol yeah so yeah but we are the only one with the military forces
00:29:08.520 we're the only one with our own military forces since 1886
00:29:14.120 malaysia's independence is 1957 yeah 1886 johor's uh recognition as a sovereignty uh sovereign state
00:29:23.320 was 1885 a long long time ago and then we joined malaysia and your position as a royalty especially
00:29:32.440 in the muslim world is a very important crucial role especially right now we've never been more 1.00
00:29:38.120 divided but there's also more muslims than there's ever been it's the fastest growing religion
00:29:41.960 we don't have a caliph but we have positions of power like pmx like yourself
00:29:47.320 what can the muslim world do beyond just malaysian politics to find some more unity right now
00:29:53.320 I think deep inside, every single Muslim have that, what do you call it, priority when it comes to unity.
00:30:05.900 But every country has to tackle it very differently.
00:30:09.640 So we have a lot of, like I met a lot of people who said, oh, how come our, you know, these Arab leaders, they don't do anything.
00:30:16.600 It's not they don't do anything. 0.99
00:30:18.400 As a statement, I understand the position.
00:30:20.600 We can't do anything.
00:30:21.380 But the only way they can tackle the situation
00:30:25.120 Is by being very diplomatic
00:30:27.600 More communication
00:30:30.780 Trying to get over that line and say
00:30:34.880 Hey look, come on, stay off our back
00:30:37.980 What do we need to do?
00:30:40.740 So things like that
00:30:41.820 I understand they have to micromanage the situation
00:30:44.620 In the best interest of their people
00:30:46.820 I mean you think they are happy with how things are right now
00:30:50.280 They're not happy with how things are right now
00:30:51.780 But what choices do they have
00:30:53.180 You know
00:30:54.360 They can't just say
00:30:55.260 Okay
00:30:55.540 Alright let's go everybody
00:30:56.820 Settle up
00:30:57.560 Let's go to war tomorrow 0.99
00:30:58.400 Because one of the jihad is also 0.94
00:31:01.360 Not only serving your family
00:31:04.060 It's to also serve your people's well
00:31:06.080 I mean the welfare of your people
00:31:07.280 That is also considered as a jihad itself
00:31:10.140 So
00:31:10.920 They cannot act
00:31:13.680 When it comes to
00:31:16.760 How they feel
00:31:18.140 When it comes to their emotion
00:31:19.440 They have to act in the best interest of the country and their people.
00:31:23.060 So I understand that situation.
00:31:24.580 But when it comes to you say, oh, the Muslim world has to be united,
00:31:28.440 100% everybody wants to be united.
00:31:31.120 All of us want.
00:31:32.200 But when it comes to doing things and dealing with the United States of America
00:31:36.120 or dealing with other countries,
00:31:38.520 I mean, every single country has their own plan and their own ways
00:31:41.800 on how the whereabouts, how to do it.
00:31:45.340 So I understand.
00:31:47.060 And it's not easy.
00:31:48.220 i bet you it's not easy i bet you they're not just saying okay we have a good life
00:31:51.740 and yeah whatever happened happens for sure they think about it but it's just that they must find
00:31:57.140 a solution on how to deal with it you know but obviously unity that's what we want that's what
00:32:04.240 we want we want we want unity but let's not also forget about how islam is about all being
00:32:12.080 respectful to other religions
00:32:14.400 as well, and it's all about love.
00:32:17.120 So it's not just about us,
00:32:18.400 it's also about respecting one another.
00:32:20.940 And then you have, I mean,
00:32:22.320 it doesn't help when you have Western media
00:32:23.900 putting in a lot of money
00:32:25.340 to create a
00:32:28.420 different narrative when it comes to Islam. 0.95
00:32:30.960 So that's not what Islam is all about.
00:32:32.860 It's all about love, it's all about respect.
00:32:34.500 It has always been like that.
00:32:35.420 That's what Prophet 1.00
00:32:36.540 that's how Rasulullah
00:32:39.000 taught us.
00:32:41.280 So yeah, that's how it is 0.99
00:32:42.960 And it's so interesting, when you're in Muslim countries 1.00
00:32:45.760 And obviously there's non-Muslims there 0.55
00:32:48.040 There are Christians, there's Hindus
00:32:49.820 There's all different types of people there
00:32:51.700 And there's no issues with the Muslims
00:32:54.060 And those people, it's never
00:32:55.760 But it seems like when 1.00
00:32:57.820 The other religions are dominating the Muslims 1.00
00:33:00.100 They oppress the Muslims 0.91
00:33:01.480 But the Muslims never oppress them
00:33:03.460 When we're in charge
00:33:04.760 And it's proven
00:33:05.800 But you must understand how does that mechanism work
00:33:09.460 Because that is what happens when you put politics involved when it comes to race or religion.
00:33:22.060 You know, anything you're involved in politics, that's it.
00:33:24.880 You have corruption.
00:33:27.320 You have division. 0.99
00:33:29.540 That's what politics does. 0.99
00:33:31.400 I mean, if your voters are majority Hindus,
00:33:35.080 I mean some politicians
00:33:37.640 They do not care the sensitivity
00:33:39.620 Of their people
00:33:42.000 Being united
00:33:42.640 They will try to divide and conquer
00:33:45.300 As much as they can
00:33:46.020 Because that's how they get their votes 0.98
00:33:47.560 So this is where in Malaysia
00:33:50.920 It's very very important to have
00:33:53.000 The royal family playing
00:33:55.200 Their parts in Malaysia
00:33:57.560 When it comes to
00:33:58.760 Promoting unity
00:34:00.720 In the country
00:34:02.120 And I think they do that very very well
00:34:05.000 that's how the check and balance happened because now you have if you see whenever elections coming
00:34:11.220 close you will see a lot of people okay we have to save the malay the malay has been oppressed
00:34:16.160 the chinese is going to take over yeah and and i'm like what the hell are you talking about
00:34:22.120 that that is basically hate speech that is like basically giving a completely different narrative 0.77
00:34:29.100 but that
00:34:30.240 but some people
00:34:31.660 like I said
00:34:32.460 who are not educated
00:34:34.080 will believe that
00:34:34.860 that's how you won an election
00:34:35.840 yeah
00:34:36.700 I said oh my god
00:34:37.600 our lives affected 1.00
00:34:38.780 okay we got to save the Malay
00:34:40.240 well
00:34:41.460 I mean
00:34:42.920 no one tell us to
00:34:44.620 change our religion
00:34:45.980 or
00:34:46.640 or we want equal rights
00:34:48.620 or things like that
00:34:49.360 the Malay does have
00:34:50.340 different privilege
00:34:51.200 privileges
00:34:51.880 and
00:34:53.300 we just have to be
00:34:54.900 very very grateful
00:34:55.640 but we just have to work harder
00:34:56.720 and that's it
00:34:58.100 I mean, there's still a lot of respect amongst other religions and also other races, and we have to acknowledge that.
00:35:07.120 But you see, whenever politicians speak, they always speak about, oh, we have to do this for the Malay.
00:35:12.660 We have to, the Malay must do this, the Malay must do that. 0.97
00:35:15.640 And that is divide and conquer. 1.00
00:35:17.700 So they're trying to emotionally charge the...
00:35:20.700 Whether they try to get you playing the religious sensitivity or the racial sensitivity.
00:35:28.940 Whatever that works within their favor.
00:35:32.060 And here comes the royal family trying to say, hey, hold on, relax.
00:35:36.240 It's all about the people being united, unity.
00:35:42.000 That's what's important.
00:35:42.960 So basically it's very interesting.
00:35:45.220 So the politicians are feeding their own selves.
00:35:48.420 or they're feeding you know whatever their desires are and the royal family is trying to
00:35:53.060 help the people and make everything good for the people 100 that's amazing that's how that's how
00:35:56.900 it works i've seen that around the world since trump won the election in 2016 he used this
00:36:02.660 rhetoric that uh white supremacists yeah you're coming in from mexico they're going to come and
00:36:07.760 kill and do all this you create an us versus them and this is how you galvanize the people
00:36:12.280 create a populist movement we saw this happen in england and obviously you could see it i've heard 0.85
00:36:17.020 about it in bosnia they always talk about this looming threat that there's this invasion going on
00:36:21.260 this particular formula works as well it does work it's very politically people use it in sports
00:36:29.900 people use it in sport people use it in sports here in malaysia you don't have to talk about
00:36:34.240 internationally here how do they use it in sports here well for example play victim play victim
00:36:39.160 trying to portray that there's another superpower that you being attacked that you've been
00:36:43.260 you know there's a higher or bigger entity oppressing the sport so that we cannot win
00:36:49.180 instead of admitting that oh we cannot win because we're not good enough or we we do not win because
00:36:55.000 we do not plan to win or plan properly when it comes to spotting structure or any project for
00:37:04.040 that matter just be more very open with your with your fans so they try to shield themselves or
00:37:11.320 hide the fact that
00:37:12.760 to me it's when you fail to plan properly
00:37:15.300 you will not have the result
00:37:16.680 so but
00:37:18.960 one of the ways
00:37:20.440 to hide that fact is by saying
00:37:23.240 that oh it's not fair because
00:37:25.420 that team is stronger or we have
00:37:27.280 a bigger entity controlling
00:37:29.380 the whole thing so that's why we're not winning
00:37:30.900 so when they play victim
00:37:32.480 they have their fans on their side
00:37:34.540 yes you're right the referee's not with us
00:37:37.460 oh yes you're right
00:37:38.820 the football association is not with us
00:37:41.480 or the league is not with us
00:37:43.060 yes, we are the victim, we have to be together
00:37:45.120 that's the only way they can get rallied
00:37:46.800 that's the only way they can get fans on their side
00:37:49.540 but
00:37:50.320 reality is
00:37:52.000 that those people who run
00:37:54.800 those particular organisations are just not good enough
00:37:57.040 and
00:37:58.540 they're playing with this sentiment
00:38:00.380 but because certain people or certain parties
00:38:03.040 are not that educated
00:38:04.900 to think rationally
00:38:07.100 they think with their emotion
00:38:08.540 they don't think
00:38:09.100 rationally with their head
00:38:10.340 and say okay
00:38:11.380 what's wrong with our team
00:38:12.920 how come we're not winning
00:38:13.660 maybe the other team
00:38:15.120 is just better
00:38:15.660 and that's it
00:38:17.320 you just have to accept the fact
00:38:18.600 and try to do the best you can
00:38:20.040 it's a good analogy
00:38:21.500 yeah
00:38:21.960 it seems like you love
00:38:23.720 to face the harsh reality
00:38:25.100 I did it
00:38:25.660 when I first took over Johor
00:38:27.300 when I first took over Johor
00:38:29.760 I always played with that sentiment 0.99
00:38:31.920 because Johor has always been 0.99
00:38:33.280 Johorian people
00:38:34.780 have always been very proud
00:38:36.200 about them being Johorian, you know, so I, football was, at that time, the biggest, what
00:38:44.740 do you call it, the biggest vehicle to get people together, of course, so I just say,
00:38:51.980 hey, don't forget, we're Johorians, you know, sometimes we're mistreated in this, mistreated
00:38:56.920 in that, and everything, and that's get people, everybody goes like, oh, yeah, you're right,
00:39:01.640 You're right.
00:39:02.280 So more and more people support.
00:39:05.060 And JTT is more like a movement.
00:39:08.560 People see it as a sport, but I see it as a movement.
00:39:11.540 It's a movement when it comes to unifying.
00:39:14.900 It's a unifying tool.
00:39:16.420 It's like, you remember there's a movie called Invictus?
00:39:19.000 Yeah.
00:39:19.320 When Nelson Mandela unite the...
00:39:21.500 Morgan Freeman and Matt Amin.
00:39:23.360 Yeah.
00:39:23.520 So how they unite South Africa to rugby.
00:39:27.620 I did.
00:39:28.320 That was, I was inspired by that.
00:39:30.580 and that's when i took football i said okay this is what football brings because when you speak
00:39:36.060 about it politically it's different when you speak about it the school is different but when you add
00:39:40.420 sports into it it becomes different there's a story in world war one i think the german soldiers
00:39:45.480 and the russian soldiers there was christmas day and they had a ceasefire and instead of killing
00:39:51.640 each other they decided to play a football match in the snow yeah or was it world war ii was on
00:39:55.900 the eastern front so this is a good you know show that amidst a deadly war sports can unify the
00:40:03.780 people and get people on the same page about the beautiful game 100 i mean look at india india and
00:40:09.140 pakistan they hate each other but then cricket bring them together yeah great example together
00:40:15.840 you know and it works sometimes a bit more different i mean dramatic oh man cricket in
00:40:24.520 India. Parliament stops. Everything stops. You know, people love their cricket there.
00:40:31.680 Is cricket big over here or no?
00:40:33.320 Not that big. Here is more football, but here is more English Premier League. Everybody
00:40:40.260 loves English football.
00:40:41.540 What's your team? Arsenal.
00:40:43.820 Manchester United.
00:40:44.600 Manchester United. Okay, you're a classic guy, Ferguson era.
00:40:47.480 Yeah.
00:40:48.060 So Ronaldo...
00:40:48.620 I grew up in the Cantona era. Eric Cantona.
00:40:51.960 Right. He was doing the karate kicks.
00:40:54.280 Exactly.
00:40:55.260 Or there's a lot more to him than that.
00:40:56.500 I grew up in that era.
00:40:58.620 That's why those people who grew up in that era
00:41:01.220 does not do well in this particular era.
00:41:03.760 We're too straightforward.
00:41:05.420 I was going to ask you,
00:41:06.260 why is football on the decline?
00:41:08.220 Maybe I'm just getting old,
00:41:09.700 but why is it not the same as it once was?
00:41:14.020 Academy.
00:41:15.080 The academy is good
00:41:17.280 when it comes to educating players
00:41:20.900 technically, tactically.
00:41:22.740 but then
00:41:23.760 everybody become robots
00:41:24.980 before
00:41:26.260 players are more free
00:41:28.160 to
00:41:29.220 what do you call it
00:41:31.720 be creative
00:41:32.420 be creative
00:41:33.660 free when it comes to
00:41:36.980 Ellie 0.97
00:41:37.720 I lost the word
00:41:38.400 express themselves
00:41:40.040 that's the word
00:41:40.900 I was looking for
00:41:41.580 they are more free
00:41:42.460 to express themselves
00:41:43.200 like the Ronaldinho's
00:41:44.220 exactly
00:41:44.660 so today
00:41:45.300 if you have Ronaldinho
00:41:46.160 he will not survive
00:41:46.900 in any team
00:41:47.380 because the coach
00:41:48.960 is going to be
00:41:49.320 hey two touches
00:41:50.180 two touches
00:41:51.700 and pass
00:41:52.160 two touches
00:41:52.700 everything is tactic everything is very very tactical so academy also play a part in that one
00:41:59.040 so there is no creative creativity in football um but yeah i mean before the quality was
00:42:07.060 top top level it's still top today it's still very very interesting today
00:42:12.720 i find that players are much more fitter because of the technology the training
00:42:19.100 nutrition as well
00:42:23.580 but when it comes to
00:42:26.300 hardship
00:42:28.020 maybe no
00:42:28.640 their lives are too easy
00:42:31.340 players nowadays are very very
00:42:33.880 spoiled unfortunately
00:42:34.940 so it's too tactical
00:42:35.900 so it doesn't build that character
00:42:37.800 you know it's an interesting phenomenon
00:42:41.720 happening in America with the NBA
00:42:43.160 because the NBA used to be full of people 1.00
00:42:45.600 that were poor, they came from the slums
00:42:47.680 and they had to make their way up.
00:42:49.480 So they worked so hard.
00:42:50.940 And now the NBA is full of NBA player kids.
00:42:53.920 So they're raised millionaires.
00:42:56.000 So they don't have that same hunger.
00:42:58.100 I gave you an example, the Brazilian national team.
00:43:00.320 You see, the Brazilian national team has always been top,
00:43:03.760 world-class, first-class.
00:43:04.600 I mean, today, yes, you still have world-class talented players,
00:43:09.180 but different mindset, different mentality
00:43:11.700 because things come easy.
00:43:13.720 You're 18 years old.
00:43:14.760 You get offered to go to Europe.
00:43:16.060 You're paid $50 million suddenly.
00:43:17.680 boom you made it yeah and that's it so there is no more fire in you to achieve more that's why
00:43:26.660 people like Messi people like Cristiano Ronaldo those are all very very unique individual who
00:43:31.860 have always had that hunger of trying to pursue even more trying to achieve even more when they
00:43:38.540 have already reached a certain platform which is very very high but they try to do even more
00:43:43.920 So that's how I want my youth to be.
00:43:49.320 So Ronaldo or Messi, as a Man U fan, it should be easy.
00:43:52.800 No, don't get me there.
00:43:56.160 It's the most controversial question.
00:43:57.740 I don't have any relationship with Messi, but I'm a good friend of Cristiano.
00:44:03.300 It's very hard.
00:44:04.240 Different players, different players.
00:44:06.460 I'm in different position, different players, different type of players.
00:44:09.700 Cristiano Ronaldo is more, I mean, stronger.
00:44:12.940 very very powerful in the box
00:44:16.160 head, left and right
00:44:17.740 Messi is more natural talent
00:44:20.420 magic
00:44:21.300 football, I mean
00:44:22.900 you can see how he creates players and everything
00:44:25.480 is special
00:44:26.220 so they all have their own special thing
00:44:28.600 but after this too
00:44:30.680 nowadays
00:44:31.340 you have, okay, you have Haaland
00:44:33.680 you have Mbappe 0.88
00:44:34.720 you have Laminya Maul 1.00
00:44:37.220 coming up, that one
00:44:38.540 so you have a lot of new players coming up
00:44:41.940 Olise,
00:44:43.700 you know,
00:44:44.200 Dui,
00:44:45.960 top, top players
00:44:46.800 coming up.
00:44:47.680 Yeah.
00:44:48.240 But,
00:44:49.180 very hard to see
00:44:50.460 consistency
00:44:51.040 for so many years.
00:44:52.940 I mean,
00:44:53.120 Ronaldo and Messi
00:44:54.440 dominated football
00:44:55.380 for 16 years.
00:44:56.460 It's not normal.
00:44:57.200 They still are.
00:44:57.920 Yeah.
00:44:58.260 And still,
00:44:59.160 you know,
00:44:59.500 up there,
00:45:00.020 scoring goals
00:45:00.760 and whatnot.
00:45:01.800 Such a big presence.
00:45:04.080 Yeah.
00:45:04.360 Are you coming
00:45:04.760 to the World Cup?
00:45:06.820 No.
00:45:07.640 Ah.
00:45:09.160 I would love to host you
00:45:10.280 if you come,
00:45:10.920 maybe not this.
00:45:11.680 Inshallah, Inshallah.
00:45:12.780 How do you think the World Cup is going to be in America?
00:45:14.780 With all things going on right now in the world,
00:45:17.400 do you think it will affect you?
00:45:18.880 I do think so.
00:45:20.020 Unfortunately, if you're being realistic,
00:45:22.260 the U.S. is not looking like a proper host
00:45:25.040 the way that they act right now.
00:45:26.740 Exactly.
00:45:27.440 And you can see that the excitement,
00:45:29.720 I mean, they lost that excitement.
00:45:31.100 Usually, before World Cup, people are so excited.
00:45:33.340 Okay, the World Cup, we're going to go for the World Cup.
00:45:36.500 And now you have people who are maybe not interested even.
00:45:40.460 Yeah.
00:45:40.620 You know, that's sad.
00:45:42.500 Because the World Cup's not the greatest football,
00:45:45.100 I mean, the greatest tournament in the world.
00:45:47.060 Sporting tournament in the world.
00:45:48.220 Sad to see how it is.
00:45:50.740 Maybe if we had a royal family,
00:45:52.200 they would get these people in line.
00:45:54.580 Right now, the administration, what are they saying?
00:45:56.600 That the Pope is weak on crime.
00:45:58.220 Really?
00:45:58.740 Yeah, Trump just said the Pope is weak on crime
00:46:00.700 and the Pope shouldn't talk about the war.
00:46:03.680 And Trump threatened to bomb Iran back to the Stone Ages,
00:46:07.560 word for word.
00:46:08.800 I saw that.
00:46:09.540 Yeah, so it's not the best rhetoric
00:46:11.080 before hosting the world's event
00:46:12.820 in your home country.
00:46:14.320 Exactly.
00:46:17.140 And what about Mexico?
00:46:18.540 You have Mexico, yeah.
00:46:19.700 And Canada, yeah.
00:46:20.580 Yeah.
00:46:21.100 True.
00:46:21.620 You know,
00:46:22.820 you say a lot of things about Canada,
00:46:24.340 you say a lot of things about Mexico.
00:46:26.200 I forgot they were the hosts too.
00:46:29.520 Yes, they are.
00:46:30.400 Well, they're pretty much just us at this point,
00:46:32.420 you know.
00:46:34.000 It's the same place.
00:46:35.640 They keep asking about your car collection.
00:46:38.360 my car collection yeah that's how you know it's a major collection it must be the nicest collection
00:46:50.180 I love cars I love cars okay which one's your favorite top three top three tough
00:46:57.860 I like, I like the Spot Chiron, the Bugatti.
00:47:04.400 Okay.
00:47:07.420 What color is the Bugatti?
00:47:09.520 Black.
00:47:10.300 Okay, nice. 1.00
00:47:10.780 Black.
00:47:11.300 That's a good color.
00:47:12.100 And then I have the Mistral, which is the gold one.
00:47:15.580 I still have the Tobillon coming, which I have not decided fully about what color I want.
00:47:23.000 I want it to be something unique.
00:47:24.740 So I love cars, but I am not as crazy about cars as my father and my siblings
00:47:31.600 My my brothers are just fanatic over cars and my father as well, but me I'm okay with cars, but I
00:47:39.120 Like I have different hobbies. For example, I like building things. I like building gym
00:47:43.380 That is a beautiful gym. I like to I like I like to build places that I can
00:47:48.120 Spend time with my family or my friends like the stadium like this where I can have coffee or a meeting and chill
00:47:54.180 here and have coffee in the morning and then go for a gym and then do work and then go home i like
00:47:58.720 to build i like to build but i like to build nice places where i can spend time with my loved ones
00:48:05.080 instead of buying cars i like cars don't get me wrong i love cars but it's just that
00:48:10.800 things like this uh it's nicer they sent me a video that uh your father had a gifted car
00:48:17.380 is that still here? Gifted car. There was, um, I don't know. I don't know how old. I think it was
00:48:27.020 a Volkswagen. I have no idea. No, I have no idea. Okay. I know we have two cars that was presented
00:48:32.720 by Hitler. That's what I was asking about. I didn't want to say it. There you go. Mercedes, 0.82
00:48:37.160 not a Volkswagen. It was presented to Sultan Ibrahim, my late great, great grandfather
00:48:42.420 and the Emperor of Japan and King of Nepal.
00:48:47.460 And Mercedes wants it back because World War II,
00:48:49.640 I mean, the factory was totally destroyed.
00:48:52.580 So Mercedes have always wanted to buy the car back.
00:48:56.240 I think they offered about, if I'm not mistaken,
00:48:58.560 two to four million euros.
00:49:00.320 That's pretty low, no?
00:49:01.340 To buy it back at that time.
00:49:02.880 This was about 20 years ago or 25 years ago.
00:49:06.920 That's the offer.
00:49:07.940 But my father refused to sell.
00:49:09.600 I believe they got the one
00:49:12.440 They got it back 1.00
00:49:13.860 The one from Nepal
00:49:15.080 But the two cars 0.86
00:49:16.500 The one that Hitler presented
00:49:17.520 Is still here 1.00
00:49:18.080 Still here
00:49:19.120 Still in the garage
00:49:19.980 It's right here?
00:49:21.960 It's not here where we are
00:49:23.680 Oh, okay
00:49:24.080 It's another
00:49:24.540 You heard his voice
00:49:25.640 It got excited
00:49:26.240 It's another palace
00:49:27.480 Yeah
00:49:29.720 I have a few cars
00:49:32.360 But a lot of people in KL
00:49:33.840 Have cars as well
00:49:34.660 You can see
00:49:35.320 Everybody has cars in KL
00:49:36.520 We didn't see that many
00:49:37.560 Nice cars in KL
00:49:38.300 A lot
00:49:39.020 Really?
00:49:39.600 Yes, yes. A lot of people have sports cars. Everybody has sports cars in KL. Every influencer
00:49:44.480 has sports cars in KL. Every people who owns a restaurant has sports cars in KL. You can
00:49:48.660 be selling shoes and suddenly you're driving two Lamborghinis. I just hope they pay their
00:49:52.740 taxes.
00:49:54.500 Can I ask, what was that relationship? How did your grandfather receive that gift? How
00:49:58.940 did he get to that point?
00:50:00.960 The art of diplomacy. I think at that time, the Jehoi royal family was traveling everywhere.
00:50:05.540 For example, in 1860-something, I have to get the specific date, we were already in Chicago World Fair, in Chicago, at that time.
00:50:15.660 So, that was a long, long time ago.
00:50:17.820 We have a Johor booth.
00:50:21.240 We have a guy, I mean, a person here called Datuk Rahim.
00:50:25.000 He's in the Council of the Royal Court.
00:50:26.580 He knows a lot of Johor history, and he taught me as well.
00:50:29.560 so yeah i mean we have good relationship with the british as well and my grandfather
00:50:39.660 my great-great-grandfather was friends with the tokugawa family from japan the emperor of japan
00:50:46.320 at that time that's why i mean in johor you do not have british residents during the
00:50:53.380 When we were colonized by the British, all other states have a British resident, but in Johor we only have British advisor to the Sultan, no British resident in Johor.
00:51:10.380 We were never colonized by the British, and at the same time when the Japanese was here, we were also never taken by the Japanese.
00:51:20.380 Because my great-great-grandfather was awarded by the Emperor, which is an Order of the Rising Sun Medal. 0.68
00:51:30.600 Is that Chinese?
00:51:31.420 It's Japanese.
00:51:32.240 It's Japanese.
00:51:32.800 Yeah, so when the Japanese was here, they gave full respect to the Sultan of Johor and not to disturb Johor at that time.
00:51:40.860 How does it feel being part of a family such a rich history?
00:51:44.120 it feels good but that also um somehow taught me that's how when you manage things well the
00:51:54.700 art of diplomacy and how managing things well you know because at that time i mean we we don't have
00:51:59.900 like huge military force or a lot of money but somehow they survive at that time so it's just
00:52:06.800 managing it well having that good engagement with diplomacy and see how how you can make a deal of
00:52:14.060 protecting your interests
00:52:15.880 I wanted to ask about that
00:52:18.580 the art of diplomacy
00:52:19.580 it seems like that's where you succeed very well
00:52:22.620 and what do you think that
00:52:24.320 my generation could learn
00:52:26.720 when it comes to diplomacy
00:52:28.580 how could that be utilized better
00:52:30.160 you see
00:52:32.140 you must understand there's two things
00:52:36.420 so one is being very diplomatic
00:52:38.260 but also straightforward
00:52:39.500 you have to be very straightforward
00:52:41.120 i feel like when i speak among leaders it's very important to touch their heart and make them
00:52:49.040 understand because if you build a relationship a form of foundation of friendship there's a
00:52:55.460 there's automatically there's a respect there like okay for example yes i respect where you're
00:53:02.440 coming from you know but this is where i'm coming from things like that so once once you have that
00:53:08.260 foundation of friendship and that relationship people tend to be more
00:53:12.640 respectful and not trying to hurt your feeling because there is already a bond
00:53:17.320 of friendship so that is how I say when you when you do things that engagement
00:53:22.120 that communication and that art of diplomacy also plays a part so that's how
00:53:28.060 that's how I like to for example if I speak to any world leaders or if I speak
00:53:33.020 to any leaders for that matter I like to put things on the table I like to be
00:53:35.680 very straightforward i am not too diplomatic i like to be very straightforward get the point
00:53:41.480 across and then see and then after that you have to read the room and see how do you react
00:53:44.920 and try to uh try to manage from then um how do we go on to the next step you know so from your
00:53:53.040 experience doing that do you think that worked out well for you like so far yes okay so far yes
00:53:59.460 100 percent like have a good working relationship with singapore government when it comes to
00:54:06.020 supporting our educational system or water management things like that so once you have
00:54:11.800 that relationship like i said once you have that relationship which is a french very friendly
00:54:15.620 relationship it's very easy to to work together i'm pretty sure other people appreciate it because
00:54:21.600 yeah you're just speaking what's on the heart nothing is like hidden in the chest when you
00:54:27.160 have that when when you start giving the impression of distant or being very too
00:54:32.740 diplomatic when it comes to negotiating or giving that talk almost makes you
00:54:38.620 fake right no I mean that gap is already somehow not good enough because you
00:54:45.040 can't get anything you can't get any deal done so it's always very very good
00:54:48.920 just to be very very relaxed just to be very very open that's why I don't like
00:54:53.040 having too many people in my meetings when I when I meet any leaders I like
00:54:56.520 to have that one-on-one.
00:54:58.400 So we can somehow be very open
00:55:02.540 because they can come back to me and say,
00:55:04.680 look, what you want, it will not work.
00:55:07.620 This is why I think it will not work.
00:55:08.900 And then I will come up with my point.
00:55:10.480 Yeah, but if you do it like this,
00:55:11.580 so you can somehow have that freedom to argue,
00:55:15.660 not for the sake of arguing,
00:55:16.900 but trying to put our point across
00:55:19.880 rather than just being, if you have so many people here.
00:55:22.520 Then it becomes a performance.
00:55:23.360 Exactly.
00:55:24.200 you don't want to step on anybody's toes
00:55:26.520 you want to be politically correct
00:55:28.300 they want to be politically correct
00:55:29.660 and you can't get things done
00:55:30.900 I like that approach
00:55:32.320 have you had to meet with any Israeli officials?
00:55:37.780 me?
00:55:38.240 before? no
00:55:38.920 they're not allowed in Johor?
00:55:42.100 they're not allowed in Malaysia
00:55:43.060 they're not allowed to enter Malaysia 0.99
00:55:46.120 I met one when I was in India
00:55:50.120 I met one
00:55:52.100 I said
00:55:52.560 is I went to this gym called a touch palace it was a hotel so whenever I was
00:55:59.400 when I was in the 61st Cavalry in New Delhi I go to this gym because 61st
00:56:07.260 Calvary have two squadron one is called alpha squadron which is in Jaipur in
00:56:11.760 Rajasthan desert and the other one is in New Delhi Bravo squadron Bravo
00:56:16.380 squadron is a very small military camp so we don't have our own gym so I have to
00:56:21.480 to this hotel touch palace and do gym there so i was in the gym and i see this old man every day
00:56:27.320 coming in he's singing he's in a good mood he does his gym and then one day we start talking
00:56:32.280 where are you from i'm from i'm from israel right okay yeah i said where are you from i'm like i'm
00:56:39.640 malaysian oh and you here you're serving the indian army yes yes yes yes he never say who he was
00:56:44.200 whatever and then so every time we see each other we pass remarks to each other hello hello like
00:56:49.720 Like normal thing, I do my thing, he does his thing.
00:56:51.720 And then one day he just said, hey, anytime you want to, so what do you do?
00:56:55.140 I said, I'm in the military, I'm doing my training here.
00:56:57.680 Okay, okay.
00:56:58.540 Which state you come from?
00:56:59.500 I said, Johor.
00:57:00.100 Oh, there's the one next to Singapore.
00:57:01.560 I said, yes, yes, yes.
00:57:03.060 So we just start having a conversation and then before he left, he just gave me a card.
00:57:07.160 And then I look at the card, it was Director General of Military Intelligence.
00:57:11.100 Mossad. 0.99
00:57:11.700 Oh, fucking hell. 1.00
00:57:14.400 But it was cool. 0.99
00:57:16.060 Did the card start beeping afterwards?
00:57:18.380 No, no.
00:57:18.720 Okay.
00:57:19.720 so yeah
00:57:20.980 did you ever
00:57:22.740 meet up
00:57:23.180 where did that go
00:57:24.180 no I've never
00:57:24.660 had the chance
00:57:25.220 to meet up
00:57:25.640 I think he was busy
00:57:26.340 he must be
00:57:26.960 having a lot
00:57:27.820 of assignment
00:57:28.500 everywhere
00:57:29.740 yeah they are
00:57:31.700 the busy people
00:57:32.700 for sure
00:57:33.840 that's funny
00:57:35.540 yeah but now
00:57:36.600 Modi is saying
00:57:37.520 that
00:57:37.780 very different
00:57:38.920 than Malaysia 0.99