In this episode, we talk about the recent developments in the Middle East, including the recent ceasefire between Israel and Gaza, Iran's nuclear deal with the West, and the situation in Syria. We also talk about Trump's trip to China and his meeting with 30 tech billionaires.
00:01:24.120Good, alhamdulillah. Good to speak to you.
00:01:26.200It's been a long time, Professor Morandi.
00:01:27.500it has a story about that come you sent me a message a couple of weeks two three weeks ago
00:01:33.860i for some reason i always forget to check my twitter messages so i'm i like every once or
00:01:44.180one or one week or two week i just look and then i suddenly see i have all these messages but i'm
00:01:49.260always checking telegram and and whatsapp yeah at the time i think i forgot i had your whatsapp
00:01:55.800but everything's good. It's good to speak to you again. There's been not that many developments on
00:02:00.560the Iran war since we last spoke, or maybe there's some that I'm not aware of, but I think you have
00:02:05.800a lot of good information. It's always been great to speak to you. I think you've done well in
00:02:09.740debates and head to heads. I'm glad to be here again, but right now the news is Trump just went
00:02:15.660to China. He's in China right now with 30 tech billionaires. People are wondering if China's
00:02:20.140going to apply pressure, and I saw you tweeting about it a little bit. I want to see your thoughts.
00:02:23.740What do you think is happening with Trump's meeting in China?
00:02:29.940Well, it's pretty clear that Trump did not get anything in particular and that the Chinese were not going to give him any concessions.
00:02:43.000He doesn't, you know, as they say, he doesn't have any cards to play with.
00:02:48.600He's put the United States in a very difficult position.
00:02:53.080he's lost the war against iraq and the u.s economy is not performing well it hasn't been
00:03:00.120performing well to be fair for decades the chinese have been doing far better i think
00:03:09.440since 9-11 effectively you know the since 9-11 and the never-ending wars in afghanistan and iraq0.95
00:03:18.820and Libya and all the devastation that they've created thanks to the Epstein class, the Zionist,0.95
00:03:26.980the oligarchy, because of them, the United States is not where it was when I was your age at all.0.99
00:03:37.280And so now that it's lost the war, countries don't take the United States that seriously anymore.
00:03:44.000I mean, imagine, for example, the Japanese saw what happened in the war.
00:03:49.440The South Koreans saw what happened in the war.0.84
00:03:53.360So tomorrow, when the United States wants to mobilize these countries against the Chinese,
00:03:59.240are the Japanese going to be, is Japan going to be that enthusiastic anymore about joining the U.S.-led coalition or the Koreans or anyone else?
00:04:09.740no because they saw how the united states failed in in the persian gulf and in west asia so what
00:04:15.920iran did through its extraordinary resilience and it was on its own i mean iran's relationship with
00:04:22.580china is very good its relationship with russia is very good its relationship with all independent
00:04:28.700countries is good brics countries they're all good but at the end of the day
00:04:33.520it was the iranians who stood on their own feet just like when you look in lebanon today0.99
00:04:42.480hezbollah is surrounded it on the to the east here this controlled by the u.s the guy went
00:04:48.960to the white house got some perfect there's not good wi-fi in iran you have to0.65
00:04:58.560be a little bit patient with him it's been a shutout for a while could be a masad attack
00:05:04.640but it's been a long time it's been over a month and they haven't had real wi-fi there it's one of
00:05:09.180the few people in iran that actually have wi-fi oh he's still talking he's working against hezbollah
00:05:13.780the government in beirut installed by the americans two puppets the prime minister i'm in a coffee
00:05:18.980shop uh you're you're cutting out a little bit can you hear me you're you're lagging pretty
00:05:26.200heavily right now yes i i okay i think i'm in a coffee shop so okay he left i think massad
00:05:38.000got him not ideal okay we'll call him right back give it a second there has been uh yeah there we
00:06:44.540okay can you see me now yes is this better and so i think that is better yes
00:06:54.960okay sorry this is a i'm in a coffee shop and it's actually downstairs so the connection is
00:07:04.480probably worse i should have sat somewhere upstairs but they told me the connection
00:07:09.960year is better. I misunderstood. It looks good now. It looks good now.
00:07:19.040We're live, right? Yes, we're live right now on YouTube and kick.
00:07:22.540Oh, sorry about that then. Oh, no, it's okay. No worries. So you were talking about Trump's
00:07:27.420visit and you're saying that the major points is that the war has been won by Iran, even though
00:07:32.640it still is ongoing. Trump is declaring victory, but it's still happening. And you're saying that
00:07:37.100they're not the world isn't taking the U.S. seriously. But if the world isn't taking the
00:07:41.240U.S. seriously, then why would Xi Jinping have this meeting with Trump, Hegseth, Rubio and 30
00:07:47.020billionaires? Well, it's not as if the United States has been wiped off the face of the earth.
00:07:54.260It's still the United States of America. But this isn't the United States of 30 years ago.
00:08:00.680It isn't. I mean, if you go back before 9-11 and, you know, whoever, you know, was behind 9-11, I mean, after watching the Tucker Carlson documentary, I think any sane person would recognize that it wasn't just some Al-Qaeda operatives, even though Al-Qaeda was funded and assisted by the Western intelligence agencies and their regional proxies.
00:08:28.680But, you know, if you look at his documentary, it wasn't just them.
00:08:32.300I mean, I used to not believe this sort of thing, and I used to be very dismissive of people who spoke about 9-11 being more than just these terrorists.
00:08:43.120But, you know, I think differently now.
00:08:45.760But if you go back before 9-11, the United States, before all these endless wars and the many tens of trillions of dollars that they wasted, the United States was a different country.
00:11:01.500But what is the trade like and what's that geopolitical relationship between China and Iran?
00:11:08.220Well, one of the things about Iran and China is that we've never had war, and we've had thousands of years of relations.
00:11:17.380The Silk Road that you've heard of and many people have heard of in history books, that was a trade route that connected Iran to China thousands of years, both by land and by sea.
00:11:34.280I was in Guangzhou last year, a year and a half ago, at an exhibition of Iranian and Chinese artifacts that showed the trade that took place between Iranian ports and Chinese ports, meaning the Guangzhou area in particular.
00:11:51.920And it was fascinating how they were influencing each other, the artists and the creators and those who were making utensils and things like that, kitchenware or other things that people use.
00:12:09.920views, how the two sides were selling them back and forth, and how they were being influenced
00:12:15.720by each other in creating or in innovation and creating new goods.
00:12:22.620So the history of Iran and China has never been hostile, and that goes a long way to
00:15:13.640that was one form of resistance when you were working for the master and you're the slave
00:15:20.760you know he he's the guy with the whip he's the guy with the sword he's the guy with the gun
00:15:25.960so you're not able to shoot back at him the only thing you can do is to try not to help him try to
00:15:33.240be as uh you know try to try to be uncooperative not to be helpful so all of these were different
00:15:41.560forms of resistance in the past. But when countries and different parts of the world
00:15:48.640rise, then the resistance grows. And Iran, because of its religious ideology, Islam,0.99
00:15:58.640in Shia Islam in particular, it's the role that Imam Hussain, the grandson of the Holy
00:16:04.920Prophet, plays in resisting oppressors on behalf of the oppressed, the role that his
00:16:10.320sister played in Karbala that has a huge influence on Iranians, their support for the press. That's
00:16:16.940why they are so adamant about supporting the Palestinians, the Cubans, the South Africans,
00:16:22.420the Bosnians, and so on. And then there's this heritage of civilization, thousands of years of
00:16:29.640heritage, which, and also the very fact that they're a victim. When you are a victim, it makes
00:16:35.640you makes you it makes resistance for you more meaningful if you if you if someone has stolen
00:16:42.480your home you have reason to resist uh but if you carried out some sort of aggression your uh
00:16:51.460your your your your motivation for violence is less unless you become unless you make it
00:16:58.980ideological and you consider yourself to be a master race or master people or
00:17:04.920a superior ethnicity or superior of some sort, which we do see in Zionism and we do see
00:17:11.160in Massa, you know, among the elites in the West. When, what's his name, Joseph Borrell,
00:17:17.000who was the EU foreign policy chief until just a couple of years ago, he said that Europe,
00:17:23.640the EU, we're the garden and out there is the rest of them that, you know, they're the jungle.
00:17:31.800That means we are the jungle, we are the barbarians, we are the animals, we are the, you know, the uncivilized. And he and his, you know, people like him, they're the civilized people sitting in their gardens and in their coffee shops and being sophisticated and humane.
00:17:51.840but ironically they're the ones who support genocide in gaza and now the genocidal attacks0.78
00:17:57.760in lebanon and wars of aggression against iran and so on and so forth so was china supplying intel
00:18:07.880or military equipment or anything to iran because i saw some reports that russia was giving intel to
00:18:14.100iran and china did say some things alluding to the fact that this war between the u.s and iran
00:18:19.660is unnecessary. What can we say about that diplomatic relationship right now? What side
00:18:25.120is China on? Are they on any side at all? Do they care or are they just completely neutral?
00:18:32.180No, they're definitely much closer to Iran. When the Iranian foreign minister went to China,
00:18:38.920they were, you know, if you look at Chinese social media, he was welcomed. And ordinary people
00:18:45.960saw Iran as heroic. They saw Iran as, you know, it was like David versus Goliath. And everyone0.81
00:18:54.360was stunned that Iran was able to do this. Even friends of Iran across the world, who I knew
00:19:01.780and know, they thought Iran was going to collapse. I never did, and many people here didn't. We were
00:19:11.160confident about our path, about that we were in the right, and that we were doing the right thing,
00:19:17.800and that the sacrifices that we make for the Palestinian people, the support that we give them,
00:19:22.580it's all, it's all, this is all just, and that the United States, the Trump regime, the U.S.
00:19:30.900regime, and its allies, that they are, they are the forces of evil. So we were confident about
00:19:37.820what would happen. We knew it would be painful. We knew some people would be martyred. But,
00:19:44.000you know, we were expecting victory. But I think that the Chinese were very pleasantly
00:19:51.920surprised that Iran was able to withstand this horrific assault. And the Chinese told1.00
00:19:59.020the Iranian Foreign Minister, like everyone else did, that Iran's global status has been
00:21:24.300But at the end of the day, the Iranians won the war because of their own resistance, because of their own resilience, because of their own steadfastness.
00:21:36.220And the same is true today in Lebanon.
00:21:41.060You see that to the east, you have these proxies that have been brought to power by the Americans.0.59
00:21:46.460The guy, Jolani, goes to the White House, gets his perfume from Trump and goes home happy.0.69
00:21:51.460You have the puppets that the U.S. has installed in Damascus, the prime minister and the president, but Hezbollah is, you know, hitting the Zionist regime hard.0.66
00:22:03.080Why? Because they believe in what they do.0.81
00:22:05.900And why are they making these sacrifices?
00:22:08.720Why are they—because of the Palestinian people.
00:22:11.960Why are they being targeted and antagonized across the world?
00:22:15.660Because they support the Palestinian people.
00:22:17.800And one reason why we see so much hostility, not just in the West, towards the Islamic Republic and the axis of resistance, but also in our region, from Arabic media and regional media, is that these countries, they themselves are complicit, they're either with the Israeli regime or they're too cowardly to stand up to it.0.92
00:22:40.020So they try to demonize Iran, whether it's racism or sectarianism or religious hatred, whatever.
00:22:48.780They'll use that. Why? Because they don't have an argument to make about their own complicity.
00:22:54.680So they try to say that, no, no, those who are resisting the Israeli regime, they're not sincere or, you know, or they're they're corrupt or they're morally bankrupt or they're they're not real Muslims or whatever.
00:23:07.860You know, they do that in these, you know, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, sadly even people around Erdogan and others, because of their deep and ugly complicity with the regime, the Emirates worse than anyone else, they have to antagonize the resistance.
00:23:26.020But it doesn't work anymore, because people see through things now.
00:24:24.660If they're allowed to speak out in the Emirates, they'd like to get rid of this guy, this Mohammed bin Zayed, for what he's done for the Israeli regime.0.79
00:24:34.800Right. I was going to get into that question, because since we last spoke, I did see some responses from what people are calling Wahhabis.0.95
00:24:42.760And I do want to ask you right after about why you think this war is won.
00:24:47.600Maybe it's because the Strait of Hormuz has stayed closed.
00:24:50.500although there is uh reports of one tanker going through and that wasn't hit by a mine and so maybe
00:24:56.680that's what the meeting about in china is right now that they're trying to move towards a tech
00:25:00.440based economy rather than an economy based off of the petrodollar and oil but since we last spoke
00:25:06.060there were two what people are saying is wahabi or just before you move on the strait of hormones
00:25:12.640has never been closed by the iranians it's always been open the ships that have had restrictions are
00:25:19.060But those who were linked to these countries that participated in the war against Iran.
00:25:23.460Otherwise, Russian ships, Chinese ships, Iraqi ships, those who didn't have anything against
00:29:04.020And those who thought that they could take part in this and do good, and that good would
00:29:12.200come out of it, they were deeply mistaken.1.00
00:29:17.460And by the way, when I say the Wahhabis and the Salafis, I don't mean it's just them.0.77
00:29:21.780A lot of people are influenced by the propaganda.
00:29:24.620But remember, if Iran was sectarian, who saved, I said this I think last time, who saved Bosnia?0.79
00:29:35.380Except for Iran, who was there for the Bosnian people?0.76
00:29:38.060Did Iran benefit from saving Bosnia?0.66
00:29:42.540Or for example, even in South Africa, which is not a Muslim country, Iran was funding
00:29:47.460the resistance against the apartheid regime.
00:29:50.900has been supporting venezuela and cuba now of course because of the war we can't do anything
00:29:56.740really as far as i know can't do much for cuba but we've been helping we've been supporting and
00:30:02.260helping cuba and venezuela despite all our difficulties but you know those saudi did
00:30:07.940saudi not also supply weapons and and help out basi in that war in the early 90s no no it was
00:30:16.500Iran. It was Iran who didn't. It's obvious. I mean, one of my friends, his brother was martyred
00:30:24.180in Bosnia. His name was Nawab. Nawab in Arabic, but Nawab. He was martyred there. So, you know,
00:30:32.260the Iranians made sacrifices. And then when the Iranian advisors and Iranian weapons and0.71
00:30:38.980the training was scoring successes, the Americans forced to peace. Now, again, I don't want the0.77
00:30:47.620Bosnians and the Serbs and the Kuats to be at each other's throats. And I think that, you know,1.00
00:30:53.540there has to be a solution. But at that time, they were being exterminated.
00:30:59.700Or in the case of Palestine, who's supporting the Palestinians? We're being0.90
00:31:03.860bombed because of our support for the palestinians there's no other reason for this so okay if we're1.00
00:31:10.640not sincere why why why are we the ones being bombed if you recall i mean you're young but
00:31:16.080until a while back they were saying actually iran and the israelis are allies behind the scenes
00:31:22.120like they're they're cooperating they're killing us they're they try to starve our country they0.94
00:31:29.260bomb and kill our leaders they slaughter our school children just because we support hamas1.00
00:31:35.800who is hamas are they shia are they alawit are they druz you know for decades the palestinians0.99
00:31:44.180have been taught by these very same regimes that the iranians are your enemies some palestinians
00:31:50.740never liked iran because they they they believe the propaganda but did iran uh discontinue their
00:31:58.020support for the palestinian people no because they're they're oppressed i always mention that
00:32:02.220when that's when people push back and they say oh you should not support iran iran's done this
00:32:09.380iran's done that i always bring up the fact that yaya sinwar publicly mentioned the support
00:32:13.480that iran was giving and he said that the rest of the al-war were there were nowhere to be seen
00:32:18.460and he credits iran so we can't take away that credibility uh one thing i haven't asked you
00:32:23.760before and i've been he actually goes far beyond that i mean his praise for iran the praise of uh
00:32:30.820of the abu obeyed for iran and the praise of the jihad the jihad leaders of the praise that they
00:32:39.000have uh you know people should go and listen to their speeches how they would thank iran how they
00:32:45.000would praise iran despite the the sectarian counter narratives that were funded by uh oil
00:32:52.560and gas well despite all that despite the fact that they would pay a price i'm sure for uh their
00:33:01.200praise of the islamic republic and of hezbollah they praise hezbollah uh and not once or twice
00:33:08.340repeatedly throughout the two and a half years of genocide the um abu obadi who was marched a few
00:33:15.580months ago people should go and look and see what he says or the spokesman for islamic jihad right
00:33:20.760So, you know, these people know what Iran has done, the sacrifices that Iran has made, the Islamic Republic has made for Palestine, and we're proud of it, because the people of Palestine are victims, they're human beings, they're our sisters and brothers, and it didn't matter to us if they, you know, believe the propaganda or they didn't.
00:33:44.440It's our responsibility to help them, and we will continue to do so, and we pay a heavy price for that.
00:33:50.920Ayatollah Khamenei was martyred for the Palestinian cause.
00:33:55.720Sayyid Hassan Nasrullah was martyred for the Palestinian cause, but these people, how many of them, where have they been on the battlefield over the years?
00:34:04.500What have they been doing, and where do they get their funding in many cases?
00:34:08.660which is why i think these conversations are important because unity especially muslim unity
00:34:13.140right now is super important it i some people i like to say i'm muslim i don't say i'm sunni but
00:34:18.100i do follow that school of thought and you're shia like the most of but it's more than islam
00:34:22.900it's more than islam it's about resistance this is this is about this is about humanity
00:34:28.900we are responsible to support the cuban people there are 10 million people in cuban
00:34:34.740we don't care if they're muslim we don't care if they're communists we don't care if they're
00:34:41.700you know if they're i don't know hindu or buddhist if if if if the if the people in gaza0.93
00:34:48.660were jewish and the the the the zionists were the the were muslim and they were doing that0.97
00:34:57.140this is what the what they're doing now to the people of gaza we would resist them just like0.98
00:35:01.860we resist them now right but i because genocide and oppression and slaughter and massacre at the0.60
00:35:10.340hands of empire resistance and and beyond empire but it is a it is our responsibility as muslims
00:35:17.460as human beings so this and this is what i think brings people across the globe together i uh my
00:35:25.460communist friends and and it's not just on the left but my communist friends uh are are very
00:35:32.500fascinated with the resistance nowadays why because they see it in a different light because
00:35:38.260they see that this is not just about like your club or your sect or your religion this is about
00:35:44.580our responsibility to the oppressed in the quran it says a lot it says that the inheritors of the
00:35:50.180of the in in the holy quran it says the inheritors of the earth are the oppressed actually i had a
00:35:55.780discussion earlier with some people uh we we were discussing this the inheritors of the earth are
00:36:02.260the oppressed so if if god if god has made the oppressed the inheritors of the earth according
00:36:08.420to the war on our responsibility is to the oppressed this is my response when people
00:36:13.700criticize and they say why are you supporting around it's not that i don't support the state
00:36:18.180I'm not there with blind allegiance to a government.
00:36:21.300A law says in the Koran to stand with the oppressed.
00:36:23.260And very clearly, U.S. and Israel are oppressing Iran.0.73
00:38:23.220the symbol of the voice of the resistance,
00:38:28.200they're the ones talking nonsense, and these guys sitting
00:38:31.540in, you know, who moved to another0.57
00:38:35.380continent and far far away from the violence so why don't they go back to lebanon and fight with
00:38:42.680the with hezbollah in southern lebanon if they're if they're so keen on fighting the israeli regime0.57
00:38:48.700it's nonsense the islamic republic of iran stood with the with the resistance from beginning to0.84
00:38:55.120end that's why iran is being bombed if iran wasn't with them iran wouldn't be bombed hezbollah0.94
00:39:00.860wouldn't be bombed you can make the same argument about hezbollah why isn't iran bombing israel
00:39:07.060right now alongside as it's hitting hezbollah so iran is anti-shia that's nonsense iran is
00:39:14.240helping hezbollah iran is helping the resistance from lebanon iran is helping the resistance across
00:39:19.600the board but iran is one country it's fighting against a coalition of 60 or 70 which country in
00:39:26.940this region stands by Iran? Name one, except for Yemen. Which country? Hezbollah is not
00:39:33.240a country. The resistance in Iraq is not a country. And even Ansarullah in Yemen, they
00:39:39.640control most of the country, but part of the country is controlled by proxies that are
00:39:44.620aligned with the West. So who is with Iran? If you could name one country, I'd say, okay,
00:39:51.260I agree. So Iran on its own is struggling against this huge coalition, and then people are supporting this coalition when they carry out a dirty war in Syria.0.88
00:40:04.800They say, no, no, the Iranians are evil. The CIA is good.0.99
00:40:10.760In Gaza, when Iran is helping them out, they're saying, no, look, Iran is not doing enough.0.56
00:40:18.900In Lebanon, Iran is—so it's only Iran.
00:44:42.920But at the end of the day, when you look at the report card, who are they advocating?0.78
00:44:49.100Who do they have to say, okay, this is Iran, bad people, but these are the good guys.0.56
00:44:55.560Who are they? Where are they? Is it Hamas?0.98
00:44:58.460Well, if it's Hamas, then why is it that what they're saying is completely different from what Abu Obedil was saying?
00:45:04.900Why is it completely different from what Yahya Sinwar was saying?
00:45:10.220These are two, the two, you know, highest ranking martyrs of Hamas, of our, you know, this generation.0.82
00:45:20.900So, again, my separation from this issue is because I'm a revert, I don't have allegiance to these nations.
00:45:26.300But what would your what's your response to when they say one, I saw some people were saying that you were part of the ceasefire talks.
00:45:34.700i'm not sure if that's true but the criticism is that okay well if iran supports palestine so much
00:45:40.040then how come in the ceasefire a 10-point agreement palestine was not listed well again
00:45:47.180that's because they don't read anything uh in the 10-point and the 10-point the iranian plan that
00:45:53.200trump openly accepted it says a ceasefire across the region but especially lebanon why because
00:46:02.060there's heavy fighting in lebanon but it didn't say in lebanon it said across the region but
00:46:09.260the problem with uh gaza so first of all it includes gaza in the cc so these people don't
00:46:17.580even read uh what the iranians put out but the problem with gaza sneko is that
00:46:26.380when trump was imposing his ceasefire on the people of gaza youtube from a kick
00:46:33.500who went to egypt and took part in that monkey show
00:46:38.460which leaders were there all your viewers have to do is look it up right now and look at the photo0.50
00:46:45.740at the ceasefire talks yeah the trump had this ridiculous ceremony where he went to egypt
00:46:52.380And then you had the leaders of Jordan and the Persian Gulf and Erdogan and, you know, the British Prime Minister and all these people went there basically to whitewash his genocide.
00:47:08.520They were there to, instead of standing with the Gaza, instead of supporting Hamas, instead of supporting the victims, they stood with Trump.
00:47:19.300And so they helped Trump impose his ceasefire.
00:47:26.960So this is not a ceasefire that was ideal to Hamas.
00:47:31.740But which of these countries took Hamas' side?
00:48:15.140I mean, one good book, which I spoke to you about last time, I think, was Going to Tehran by Flint and Hillary Leverett.
00:48:22.020Another good book is by Alistair Crook called Resistance.
00:48:29.400Another good book, I mean, if people want to follow up on Syria and a lot of other issues, Max Blumenthal's book, I think it's The Management of Savagery.
00:48:42.120I mean, Alistair Krook can tell you more about Syria than most because Alistair Krook was involved in a lot of these, I mean, he was in government and he knows a lot about the government workings in the West and what happened in Afghanistan.
00:48:56.480And then the first person to tell me that the war in Syria was a dirty war was Alistair Krook.
00:49:10.280and al-assir told me that what's going on in syria is a dirty war and i said like how how do you know
00:49:17.060or something like something like that he said all the people who i knew who worked in uh in
00:49:23.680in pakistan and afghanistan in the 1980s during the you know the when they were supporting uh
00:49:30.000these groups against the soviet union all those europeans and americans they're now in istanbul
00:49:34.940so i'm sure you've heard right uh so i don't want to interrupt your point
00:49:41.620yeah no no i was just saying that like these people i mean like people like max who's max
00:49:47.280blumenthal who's done work on on this sort of thing i mean max was one of the people max
00:49:51.980blumenthal and aaron mate they were they were among the people initially that they supported
00:49:56.500the the the opposition against the syrian government they supported it for a couple of
00:50:02.060years. And then they began to realize that, no, no, this is not what it seems to be. And
00:50:08.260that's what we were saying all along. I mean, one of the countries that Iran has very poor
00:50:12.720relations with is the Republic of Azerbaijan. It's a Shia country, but the leadership is
00:50:18.920pro-Israeli. It sells cheap oil through Turkey to Israel.
00:50:27.040Speaking of Shia, and I'm sure you've heard, there are many Shia in Lebanon. And you said you spent time in Beirut. But a lot of the Lebanese people that I've been speaking to recently, one, they had a lot of criticisms about Hezbollah. And they also had a lot of criticisms of the Shia. And I am of the belief that we need unity right now. We shouldn't focus on differences. And I just spoke to Dr. Zakhar Nayak, and he said the same thing. And he follows what he says. He follows the Salafi school of thought.
00:50:55.360But the criticisms I hear, and I haven't asked you a theological question, they say that Shia, they do taqiyah, and that they lie to push their own agenda.
00:51:06.600And I want to hear what you, or I'm sure you've been asked this, what is your response to this?
00:51:11.800And before, you two come to the kickstream so we can speak about this.
00:56:06.860by insults and abuse and lies and the hypocrisy of these people who stand idle and do nothing.0.97
00:56:16.360They can do nothing all they want. They can antagonize Iran forever. They can antagonize0.94
00:56:22.800the resistance day and night. At the end of the day, I'm in my grave and he's in his grave.
00:56:30.160and then whatever god wants whatever is his judgment we're fine with that inshallah but
00:56:38.080i'm rest assured rest assured that at the end of the day the only people who are sincere
00:56:46.440the only people who are sincere are those who are actively and i don't mean being killed
00:56:53.820whether it's you know active it could be someone who's on you know i don't i don't advocate anyone
00:57:00.360breaking laws in the united states i don't advocate anyone breaking laws uh in in the uk or
00:57:06.780you know for those who are actively supporting the people of palestine
00:57:10.380and for me if they're jewish if they're christian if they're sunni if they're shia if they're
00:57:20.600They're a Hindu. They are more valuable than those who pretend to support the Palestinian people.
00:57:30.280But all they do is slander those who are actually supporting the Palestinian people.
00:57:36.280I'll ask you one more. What can we expect?
00:57:38.480So if Iran was the dominant power in the Middle East instead of Israel right now, they're expanding to greater Israel, the public about this.0.76
00:57:44.680It used to be an anti-Semitic conspiracy, and now they're saying that they want to grow their empire and continue and maybe even go from the Euphrates to the Nile.0.87
00:57:52.080But what could we expect if Iran were to win?0.93
00:57:55.520If Iran was the dominant power, would we see social cohesion?0.95
00:58:02.380For Iran, the only enemy is empire.0.95
00:58:07.360And Zionism is a key component of empire.0.78
00:58:14.680the sacrifices that Iran is making is for the people of Palestine more than anything else.0.81
00:58:23.360If Hezbollah in Iran and Ansarullah in Iraq are resistant to Iraq,
00:58:27.660if we gave up the Palestinian cause and just did lip service like everyone else,
00:58:33.820do you think we would be under threat of war today?
00:58:39.480Do you think that we would be strangled?
00:58:42.120Do you see any of these people who antagonize Iran during the last 40 years ever try to break the siege on Iran to help the Iranian people as they were being strangled by the empire?
01:03:40.540If you remind me in like three, four hours, I'll check and give me the time.
01:03:47.920And if it doesn't, if I don't have anything planned, then sure.
01:03:53.900Do you mind if I can ask you one more? I am keeping you a little over time. I spoke to a Shia and I had the pushback that she is. They say, yeah, Ali. And his response was really good. I have to admit, he said that we're not calling upon Ali. It's not shirk because we're asking Ali to make dua for us. And I said, well, Ali passed away. He was a martyred. And then he brought up the verse in the Quran where it says, don't think that the martyrs are dead for, in fact, they are still alive.
01:04:19.780and so that was a great response and i i was i was stunned locked there how do you respond to
01:04:25.300the idea exactly yeah and and and of course when the martyrs are alive that means the prophet is
01:04:32.220alive and he's alive with the with the you know in a different place we everything whenever we
01:04:38.060speak whenever we uh we call upon them we call upon them to to pray for us it's like it's like
01:04:45.200say i say sneeko uh my i don't know my kid is you know god forbid has an illness pray for her
01:04:52.720you say well go pray to god yourself why do you ask me to pray it's not shirk if you have so you
01:04:59.440know this is again one of those things where people want to believe something so they will
01:05:06.560insist that they'll say no your intention is not this your intention is that so whatever you can
01:05:12.640think what you want there's nothing i could do about it you know there's certain things
01:05:17.120that you speak to someone logically reasonably and they insist on just saying no what you're
01:05:23.520saying is nonsense up to a point you say you know you just at the end you just say salam and walk
01:05:30.560away just like this salaam alaikum and i'll message you uh briefly well that in a positive way well
01:05:38.240it's always a positive way it's always positive to say peace be upon you well in that case it means
01:05:42.320salam just like leave these people at peace and just move on but here uh obviously uh i see you
01:05:48.720as a very uh principled young man who cares about people and uh uh i hope and pray that everyone
01:05:57.600jew christian muslim all people across the world that they work their best to help free the
01:06:03.920palestinians and to break the siege on the cuban people and so i thank you for saying that and i
01:06:11.680I look forward to speaking to you again, too.