SHNEAKO - June 21, 2026
SNEAKO X Mohammed Hijab: The Nationalism Curse
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the Arab nationalism movement in the West and its impact in the Muslim world. We also discuss the lack of unity in the Arab world, and the role of nationalism in creating division within the Muslim community.
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What happened to Islam? When did nationalism take over?
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The last hundred years has been abysmal for the Muslim world.
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We have to come to terms with that and realize that the reason is because we've been disunited
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Do you know these genocides that we're seeing now?
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Wallahi, they're just going to get worse and worse and worse.
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The reason why we have these genocides is because we're not united.
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Bro, they're struggling with Iran. Imagine if there was some kind of a bloc.
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Imagine if the GCC were standing up for the people in Palestine instead of signing the Abraham reports.
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If Iran could win a 2v1 like this and get them to capitulate, imagine us united.
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Strategically, wanting Iran to fall is a problem.
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Because if Iran falls, it's the last blockade before everyone else.
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The balance of power is being kept by Iran in that area.
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Because of its mountainous region and its topography and its terrain,
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it's so difficult for you to scale the mountains and to take over the land.
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I'm sure you've heard this all the time that the Shias in Iran, it's predominantly Shia.
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I've seen videos of people in London, they say,
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Is this true, or can there be some sort of unity, and can we look away at our differences?
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The idea that Shia or Kuffar is a radical, fringe, and unacceptable view in Islam.
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If you look at 1,400 years of mainstream Sunni scholarship,
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essentially no one had that view but a few people.
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The idea that the Shia or Kuffar is not a mainstream idea.
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This is a fringe, an extreme, and isolated view
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that only some people in the last 200-300 years of Islam,
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and the ottomans this is an extreme it really is an extreme fringe isolated and unacceptable view
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there are very obviously and i wish i saw it sooner paid agitators and controlled opposition
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that are anti-unity if they say publicly that they're against unity and they stick with the
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tribe you are clearly getting paid you are clearly an enemy and you are clearly taking away the one
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power that we have if we are united we win so these people they will mix the truth with lies
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they will hear those things about feminism or about israel and they appear to be truth-tellers
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but then also push the division that lets them win assalamu alaikum can you hear me
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so how are you okay good alhamdulillah it's uh it's good to hear from you we're just watching
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some of the catching up with those uh arab nationalism debates pretty interesting
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more than interesting it's been eye-opening for me to be honest i didn't really know that was going
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on i mean obviously born and raised in the uk so i've got very limited you know interaction with
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other parts of the muslim world like that um you know we go there as you know like we go
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for hijab we go there for holidays and these kinds of things but we don't really have
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any um real interaction and look i know every country has racism uh i'm obviously dealing
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with far-right racism in the uk but i was particularly disappointed with the arab
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obviously I'm an Arab myself from North Africa.
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and we're going to talk about other Christians and the Jews and the Zionists
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where we don't look into our own communities and say,
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you know what, we've got our own problems that we need to deal with as well, actually.
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And that's probably the reason why a lot of these activist movements failed.
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Or they could have been way more successful, like the Black Lives Matter.
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It could have been way more successful, but it was always a blaming game.
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all right and if we don't i don't want to fall into that you know and we're trying to yes enhance
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the rights of muslims in the west but we also have to be self-accountable and if this is the
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stuff that's in our society then we can't even progress until we deal with it it's a disease
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it's a real problem i think it's it needs to be addressed and i haven't seen people explain it
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properly like that so it's uh it's definitely a conversation worth having do you mind turning
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your cameras uh your phone sideways so it could fill the screen i think you have to turn on your
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your screen rotation okay one second let me try your screen rotation yep one second
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i'm just gonna do that now i'm uh i'm a little bit illiterate with phones and stuff you know
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we're like i don't even know how to do this oh here we go yeah here we go let's go great looking
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great so i saw i don't know if you saw there was a post uh amplified by daniel kikachu some people
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were saying uh the pro-sunni accounts are people like andrew tate and ferris ahamadi and then the
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pro-equani pro-shi accounts are me you and daniel and i had not even heard well i hadn't even done
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extensive research on what equani is so it's seeing you know i just stand with the oppressed
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allah says in the quran to stand with the oppressed iran is the only nation fighting
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against the evils that are happening to the umar they're genociding people in charge of the
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palestinian resistance and of course the martyr his name was uh the leader from us i forget his
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name off the top of my head but he said himself that iran was the only nation to supply him with
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weapons was the only one to help him out and look at even the memorandum of understanding of the
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iran war lebanon is included the reason that the peace deal failed is because israel is begging
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and israel is insisting to continue to bomb lebanon yes yaya sinwar admitted that iran was the
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to help them out while the rest of the arab states were silent even in the bosnian genocide in the
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early 90s iran supplied them with weapons and helped them out serbia was being funded by israel
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and israel had new documentation showing that they tried to hide the influence they had so
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what is happening and how is so yeah go ahead so what it is let me explain what's going on here
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right so what it is is the muslim brotherhood is a political organization that started in egypt
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in the early 1900s okay you had proponents like Hassan al-Banna and others who basically
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started this movement in a place called Ismailia in Egypt and then it was developed by other people
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all right and it became a political party essentially and that was the political party
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that's prevalent in Egypt and other places. A lot of Arab governments have a fear of this group
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So in other words, they are vying for power against those Arab rulers,
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and they consider that the Muslim Brotherhood is some sort of a,
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Now, Ikhwani is essentially, they're referring to the Muslim Brotherhood.
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they're saying that you're associated with this particular group.
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The reason why is because they, especially hardline literalists and proto-Selophists,
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what they say is anybody who wants unity, okay, anyone who's calling for any sort of unity
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is calling to the Ikhwan methodology, which is the brotherhood methodology,
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which is absolutely an absurd and preposterous statement because the Quran itself quite clearly
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who is ironically somebody who was trying to take over Libya
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and so this guy is meant to be like a hardline Salafist
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and he's supporting this secularist guy called Haftar in Libya
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But he was actually saying that you should fight for him against the Ikhwan, actually.
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So he gave a fatwa, essentially, for the death of who he considered to be Ikhwan in Libya.
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Just to give you a scope of who these people are and what they represent.
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yeah they're loud on even some other aspects you know social media but they do not represent even
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one percent of the islamic populace but there's a new shift to try to make it seem like that i saw
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tristan tate was on bryce crawford's podcast and he said the real muslims are the gulf muslims
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but the most populated muslim country in the world is indonesia and their pakistan is might
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surpass indonesia very soon this has nothing to do with gulf muslims gulf muslims they make up
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what 20 percent of the less less less less way less i mean in saudi arabia the population is 30
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million there's two billion muslims so essentially madhali is is that a saying zionist with a
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suppressor on it so so to me i'm going to be honest with you madhali is a pejorative term
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so i i use that pejorative they don't call themselves that they call themselves just
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salafi right so madhali is everybody else calls them that everyone else calls them madhali because
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they're the followers of Rabia ibn Hadi al-Madhali, this particular individual, they consider
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everyone else to be deviant. They have their very strict criterion as to who is a true Sunni, who is
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a true Salafi, all these kind of things. In the UK, according to Abu Khadija, who's the leader of
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the Salafis in the UK, there are about 15 to 20,000 of them, okay, in the UK. So, and there's 4 million
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Muslims. So you can see that, like, I'm giving you an example of what kind of proportions we're
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talking about they're loud online but they don't even represent one percent of the muslim world
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because it's obvious to anyone who watches that they're actually funded by america how did we
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know that because in the rand reports that are written it actually says that we fund the madhali
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movements in order to cause division but essentially they see them as a useful tool to
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cause division between the muslims because they're they do not believe in unification they smear
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those who believe in unification so madhalis are an extreme proto-salafist group who smeared those
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muslims who call for any sort of unification even if that unification is on a topic like palestine
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or a topic like you know if if if there was a nuclear bomb that was dropped on uh on jerusalem
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they would say you still can't uh you can't unify in order to to defend that they don't believe in
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unification in any context so and they yeah the reason for that bro is they give a reasoning for
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that the reasoning they give for that is they say that these people that you're trying to unify with
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are in religious heretics or innovators okay they're mubtada they're religious innovators or
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heretics and it's not allowed they would say to unite with the religious innovator that's that's
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their point and obviously the response to that is in the quran the quran it says
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Now it doesn't restrict who you're coming together with
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It doesn't even restrict if it's Muslim or non-Muslim
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You're not allowed to come together with a Jew or a Christian
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if you speak speak the truth even if the person's close to you so it's the quran is telling us so
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long as the person's on the truth and has justice then you can unite with them on that particular
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course which i'm trying and i saw you point out correctly that i have sometimes overextended
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myself trying to create unity with people that have been explicit saying f unity saying that
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unity is horrible a good example of somebody that we can unify with is pope leo who has criticized
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the iran war he's the leader of the catholic church he's the mediator between the catholics
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and god and he's been doing a great job of saying the right things that's a perfect example uh iran
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right now what about the atrocities they committed in syria this is what i hear around the world when
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i've traveled and i've spoken to people they're very upset they say iran is just as evil as israel
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they genocided people they massacred people in syria okay so let me give you my perspective on
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that right so there is absolutely no doubt that bashar al-assad like on any account his his reign
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was a brutal reign in syria there's no doubt about that he wasn't the only brutal person there
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the other brutal people that were there were isis and the takfiri groups zia um there were plants
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from the cia but to be honest with you bro it wasn't just the cia how do i i'm gonna be honest
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with you right how do i know that because the people that went to isis the people that went to
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to fight in syria and stuff i knew who they were bro they were they were my neighbors and no
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genuinely like in london in west london where i am now there were people that went to school with me
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there were people i knew who they were they were recruited into isis yeah so i was very attached to
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this cause because i saw my own friends go to syria and die there actually a lot of them died
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there. A lot of them went to my school and a lot of them died. So I actually became very
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attached and I was following, like at that time, I was following the news very closely
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and seeing what was going on. And just like how people are doing with Palestine now,
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I remember the same thing with Syria, brother. Syria went through as much as the Palestinian
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people are going through, genuinely, yeah. 500,000 of them, according to some stats, died.
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Now some of that was because of Bashar al-Assad
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you know position blame to certain things and other you know if you're a shia person you might
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want to feel like okay well it's all isis it wasn't all isis but shall i said by any standard i mean
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if you wanted to go to a western standard like amnesty international if you wanted to go to those
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some of them estimate that he killed 500 000 people that some of them estimate and there's
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no doubt that iran backed bashar there's no doubt and i agree i'm not ever claiming that iran is
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innocent but what i am claiming is that right now they're the only nation fighting against the people
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genociding in lebanon and in iran and just now that the ceasefire was was failed the straight
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of humus is now closed again because israel continues to bomb lebanon who else is helping
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them out who else is and i agree with your stance on this bro and i have to say i i'm actually
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impressed with it because to be honest a lot of muslim people they just can't see the bigger
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picture that these are people that have studied for 10 15 20 30 years islamic studies yeah and
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they've got you know they're fluent in arabic they've memorized the quran they've done lots
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of things but when you speak to them about something like this which seems trivial and
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everybody knows right who would you rather who would you rather easy be powerful in the region
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iran or israel only a fool okay or someone who's emotionally blinded thinks that iran will do more
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damage than israel has already done to the region the reason the reason why is this is because look
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israel is an expansionist power it's an it's there's something called the greater israel
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project they're trying to expand they're trying to take over whereas iran is not iran is is not
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trying it's what you would call um it's a status quo power there were times where iran was trying
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to expand its power there's no question about we have to be honest about this look i i think and
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and people are going to probably clip this out and say the wrong thing.
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I think the majority or a large number of the leaders were actually corrupt.
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A large number of the kings, a large number of the leaders were corrupt human beings.
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Whether it's in India, whether it's the Arabs, whether it's the Umayyad,
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like in every single time you find corrupt like serious corruption some of them are killing their
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brothers some of them we don't have to defend all that you know so the point is is even today the
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same thing applies power corrupts absolutely right so there are some i personally believe
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john mearsheimer and those guys the realist international relation guys are able to predict
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better what these actors will do than somebody who claims to be attached to the region and knows
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what they're talking about, because the bottom line is all of these states are just state
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interested. Iran is self-interested. Israel is self-interested. Every single state is
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self-interested. That's what's going on. That's the best way to predict what's happening
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next. Now, in terms of making this picture that, okay, these are the heroes and these
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are the moral leaders. I'm sorry, I don't accept that narrative that, okay, these guys
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are the leaders of these guys, we're going to follow them morally. However, what I do
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accept is that strategically it makes zero sense to want israel to beat iran it makes zero sense
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to side with israel against it makes zero sense whatsoever because financially it does yeah but
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it makes it makes zero sense geopolitically because if if the great look iran cannot do
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to the arab and muslim world what israel can do to it israel can group up with america
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and can essentially take over each and every single country in one way or another.
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It is confusing to me because it just seems like a very simple question.
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I've been hearing pushback from Lebanese people in Australia, over here, in my chat constantly.
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And it's just like, okay, would you rather have Iran in charge of the majority power in the Middle East or Israel?
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It's not a simple, it's not a complicated issue.
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so why is this so contentious because i yeah see if you speak if you speak to a syrian okay
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i fully understand their pain and so like if you speak to someone like syrian or lebanese or
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something like that because they've witnessed it you know what i mean so i can see where they're
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coming from like they've witnessed how iran has decimated their home or how bashar they have even
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especially the sunni syrians they have very strong feeling about that it's the majority opinion is
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anti-iran in that country and you'd be surprised as to what they would say about this situation
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but i would say that emotionally you have to sort of give them the benefit of that because they went
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through a lot of trauma understandable but even just now i proposed that question in the entire
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chapter saying neither neither neither which was not even the question proposed i'm saying which
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one would you rather and then they it seems like now the umma although we don't believe in turning
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the other cheek we're supposed to defend ourselves in times of war it seems like many the majority
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are comfortable with doing nothing where we've had a genocide since 2023 and what have we boycott
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do we don't drink a coca-cola and now we're going to stop this there's not any real people seem
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comfortable being passive which is not the way of the companions this is not the way of the original
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muslims absolutely right and so those who i don't understand what i just said they were saying
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neither or something let me try to explain this again because i think they don't understand
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Iran is limited in its capability of being able to take over the Middle East
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it cannot do it because economically it doesn't have the backing
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Israel on the other hand is not limited like that
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it has a strong alliance with the United States of America
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and the global superpower which is the United States
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is not stopping Israel from going from one country to another
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parts of land there israel is a greater threat by consensus of international relations scholars
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so we're not talking about morality here we're just talking about strategy okay if you're a
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muslim in that region you have to understand even if you're in the gulf you have to understand this
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you may think that iran is the bigger threat iran cannot overtake the gulf
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okay it cannot overtake why because because it just doesn't have the capabilities to well it
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destroyed most of the u.s military bases in the gcc it can do that it can do so it can do stuff
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like that but they cannot station their troops they will not go into the countries they can't
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do that it's too difficult it's too economic for the uh taxing whereas israel can do these things
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now their population is not it won't be able to spread to these countries but it can start take
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chipping out land land land like this and they can start making cases look don't think as far
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away that the israelis can start making a case that they own parts of israel saudi arabia for
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example there was jews at the time of the prophet they could easily say the jews of haybar we need
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to we need to have something in haybar because uh what do you call it we were there before you
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i mean you could essentially make the same argument about haybar as they they do about
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palestine and they say look we were there before you we need this section of land over here and
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and they can start making these arguments and they will get hungrier the israelis will get
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more and more hungry and they'll want more and more land and they'll want to take over more
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because it's the greater israel project and they are an expansionist power iran is currently
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according to the majority opinion like the vast majority of international relations scholars
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is not an expansionist but it's a status quo power it just wants to remain
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is survivalist it's just what trying to survive so it's by definition okay and by geopolitical
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analysis by the greatest scholars on international relations it's not as big a threat
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as israel is no matter what you say you can say well this and i don't care about the morality of
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it for now i'm not talking about the morality i'm talking about the strategy of it right
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you can say iran is the worst country this and that fine they're all very bad they're all
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self-interest we've already discussed that i'm saying strategically wanting okay um iran actually
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wanting iran to fall is a problem because if you if iran falls it's the last it's the last
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blockade before everyone else that's it the balance of power is being kept by iran in that area
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no i mean really and truly honestly because the balance because of its mountainous region and
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its topography and its terrain is so difficult for you to scale the mountains and to to to take
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over the land iraq is not like that iraq is a desert that's why when the three weeks yeah
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the americans don't need to work as hard because they just need you know it's a desert you can see
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everyone there whereas iran is not like that that's why afghanistan was so difficult and they
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have like a tenth of the uh capabilities right that's why trump has capitulate on the missiles
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they said that they have missiles hiding in the mountains they couldn't take them out so they just
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had to propose that deal and israel's made it clear that they're going to continue expanding
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history repeats itself when umar came and conquered jerusalem he brought the jews back in he told the
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80 jewish revert families to return was that favor returned by the current israelis no just now with
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the peace deal with the memorandum of understanding we supported this war u.s my tax dollars funded
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424 billion dollars to fight this war for israel and then u.s says okay just not more civilian
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infrastructure in lebanon how was that received how was that returned israel immediately strikes
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lebanon the same day they will not stop and they have proven that time and time again
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you're absolutely right and there was actually two events that are um like benchmark uh events
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like that in islamic history there was one with umar ibn khattab where someone will say you're
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just making that up but actually i read that in an orientalist book there's a book called the
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preaching of islam by thomas arnold walker who was a british orientalist who you know i think he
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wrote the book in the 1930s about 100 years ago thomas arnold walker the name is called the
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preaching of islam and he has a chapter in that book about amar going into jerusalem and he said
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he even admits in that book that when amar came in he gave full rights to jews he gave full rights
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the christians he gave by the way he gave jews and christians a um a sort of um if you want
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benefit system like especially for the elderly and stuff he gave them money gave them pension he gave
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them all kinds of he let them have their churches he protected their church he done lots of things
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for them and then it happened again with salahuddin ayyubi who uh saladin they call him in english
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one of the most famous and great Islamic leaders
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like Thomas Asperger, who by the way was my teacher
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I learned history, one of my master's degrees was actually in history
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filling the floors and stuff like that and there was massacres and stuff like that
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it wasn't and it wasn't reciprocated it's not reciprocated now you know uh with with the
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current zionist entity so what about the pushback and i'm sure you've heard this all the time that
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the the shias in iran but it's predominantly shia i've seen videos of people in london they say
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shia kufa what shia kufa is this true or can there be some sort of unity and can we look away
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at our differences the idea that shia or kuffar is a radical fringe and unacceptable view in islam
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okay if you look at a thousand four hundred years of islamic sunni scholarship mainstream sunni
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scholarship essentially no one had that view but a few people and one of those people was muhammad
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ibn abdul wahhab and his followers okay they believed that that's why in the year 18 i think
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it was 1818 okay they went into karbala and then they you know they killed shi's in iraq
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and all this kind of things and it was a massacre that's you know in a certain thing
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and obviously they will say that they were they were worshiping graves and all this kind of things
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and there may have been to be to be fair like extreme practices there but nothing justifies
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massacres okay the like of which we read in 1818 obviously this was after uh ibn abdul wahhab died
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So where did they get this information that Shi'is are
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disbelievers that the mainstream masses are disbelievers this is a fringe and extreme and
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isolated view that only some people in the last two three hundred years of islam who had also
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made takfir of sufis by the way um and ottomans because the najdis made takfir the najdi dawah
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made takfir of the ottomans okay they said that the ottomans were disbelievers so this these are
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the same people that are saying that the shiis are disbelievers they were saying the ottomans
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are disobedience um apart from that sort of group of people uh i'm sorry to say there's not that
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much representation of that view um some people say well specific scholars who said this and that
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yes fine you can make a case but this is an extreme it really is an extreme fringe isolated
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and unacceptable view and nationalism you pointed out that this is the fall of the caliphate that
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after the ottoman empire loss in world war one it was the end of any sort of islamic unity
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and unity was possible before nationalism took over and subverted and the turks put turkey first
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and even then you pointed out that i i have allied with people that say america first because they
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criticize israel some of them say correct things about what's happening in palestine but and it
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gets to a point where you can't ally with people that you know will throw you and just treat you
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as as an enemy so you you can't put them on the at the same category and if they want to be allies
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with us and that's okay what happened to islam when did nationalism take over because it's like
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geopolitically i'm an american i want to put america for i saw you have the the british jersey
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on in the world cup i'm sure you're saying it's it's coming home like stuff like that is good
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do you want to you care about your country you want the best for your country but how far should
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nationalism and tribalism go because i'm of the belief that that can separate us and that these
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imaginary lines that which is they really are not to upset people this was not mentioned in the
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quran that's not created by god it's created by man and so having allegiance to your nation
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above all else that can create separations that shouldn't exist so let me start with your first
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question you know on the ottoman empire the ottoman empire really started in 1299 that's when
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ottoman actually you know started his campaigns and stuff like that and then it continued until
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one of the most notable events in human history because it saw the end of the holy roman empire
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so the roman empire ended at that event and in 1463 so that was when the ottomans were at their
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peak in the 16 to 1700s they were still quite strong and then the sort of 17 to 1800s they
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became what is referred to as the sick man of europe okay why because they didn't modernize
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there was other issues it wasn't just nationalism right they didn't modernize the printing press
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didn't incorporate it as quickly their weapons didn't you know renew them as quickly uh in the
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1700s you know you had the age of discovery as well now yeah that's when a lot of people went
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on expeditions that's when america was basically found essentially american canada and those places
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right the age of discovery and that took place sort of after the 1600s queen elizabeth the first
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i think she died 1603 and um you know she was she's you know sent people to go and see and
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explore and all this kind of things and so the age of discovery then you had the industrial
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revolution in england as well in the 1700s 1800s so you had two things happening at the same time
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you had western powers getting stronger because they found new land and in fact one of the places
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i think it's in canada it's called newfoundland or something like newfoundland newfoundland
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there was essentially newfound land that's what because they newly found it and they found new
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land the industrial revolution was happening you had the scientific revolution that was happening
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in 1700s as well but by the way so the west was doing all kinds of things renaissance enlightenment
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finding land um the industrial revolution which couldn't have happened without the coal and at the
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same time the ottomans were not they were not keeping up they were they were in war without
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and then they went on a losing streak with Russia.
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And then things started to go down, down, down, right?
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they started to change the way they dress.
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there were very traditional Turkish sort of attire
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especially near the mid-1800s with Abdul Hamid II, okay. Abdul Hamid II was around
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and what he referred to as the Tanzimat period. Tanzimat is called. And the Tanzimat was a time,
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I think it was around 1868, okay. It was a time where the Ottoman Empire had decided
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to update its parliamentary system and to essentially westernize.
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the last straw on the camel's back so it wasn't just
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nationalism I'm not trying to give a reductionist view
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of history there's modernization the islamic caliphate had to adjust because the west was
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modernized so fast and they couldn't keep up using things like enlightenment and the advancement of
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technology and science there was no way to be able to protect yourself using the advancements that
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they were capable of but something had to happen something it was it was a combination of that
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of their not being able to keep up and the west's ability to make really quick wins in ways that
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couldn't have been anticipated like finding america is something you know who anticipated
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that the europeans are going to find america you know and and basically make a new country which
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is now the superpower right and who anticipated that there's going to be an industrial revolution
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but that wouldn't have happened had it not been for natural resource in the in the uk you have
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coal right so had it not been for the coal there wouldn't have been you know steam engines there
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wouldn't have been an industrial revolution so a lot of it was just unanticipated victory
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and then you obviously had colonialism like british colonialism and french color this was
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when colonialism really took off in 16 17 1800s so this is when the west had this is the strongest
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point for the west in the history of of their entire history right they've never had anything
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like that and um at the same time the ottomans were getting weaker and weaker and they're getting
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more and more divided um and they were becoming more and more impressed by the west and that
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that's when that's when things started to get quite bad and it's interesting because people
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like tommy rubinstein who epsin says is a cheap prostitute they'll say and declare that the west
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is a christian nation but all these ideas like enlightenment and the advancements that happen
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at the time of colonial uh colonization during the colonial times this has nothing to do with
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christian values enlightenment is based in frankism it is based in you know within the self
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trying to have your own power within not power from god but power that comes from within trying
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to see how far humans can go trying to become the creator and yeah the fact that that was tied so
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closely they'll declare this is a christian national even though we have freedom of religion
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in america they say it's christian nation but everything that created the west comes from greek
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theology comes from occultism uh also with christianity but these values are not strictly
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based in christianity at all no i mean no serious historian will tell you that the like after the
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enlightenment christianity became the focus quite the contrary um obviously with the exception of
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this uh this thesis that put forward by max veber which is called the protestant ethic where he had
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this theory that capitalism was essentially driven by protestantism but it was a tenuous link that he
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put but apart from that the look in the 1718 and 1900s the philosophers and thinkers that came out
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in what's referred to as the enlightenment period what as you said they were trying to actually try
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and find meaning outside of religion so the best example of that is emmanuel kant kant and hume
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yeah yeah i think can't probably the reason why he wrote a book called the critique of pure reason
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and in the book he's trying to make an argument he's trying to make an argument for how you find
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morality outside religion he wasn't satisfied with i don't even think he believed in god because he
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wasn't satisfied with any of the arguments for god's existence and he was trying to say that
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okay, you can, through something called the categorical imperative
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so you can find morality through rational inquiry.
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So there was a movement away from religion.
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there was a tension between science and religion,
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there are differences of opinion on that matter.
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There was one book I read some time ago called Galileo Goes to Trial.
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I can't remember who wrote that book, but the author was trying to, he did argue quite well.
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He said that this was, we're over-exaggerating that.
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So, okay, the scientific revolution, there's a difference of opinion among the historians.
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But the Enlightenment period, I don't think there's much of a difference of opinion,
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that this was a time where there was a movement away from religion.
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and if you look at the founding of america it was explicitly done on a secular basis
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it was explicitly done on the works of john locke and liberals etc it was explicitly done
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on secularism there is nothing in the constitution except for reference to god
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about christianity not jesus and not the holy spirit and not there's nothing there's no specific
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reference to christianity right uh there was a guy called montesquieu at the time as well
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montesquieu is a french uh philosopher first philosopher a positive sorry political philosopher
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you had john locke they all sort of had the same idea that you have separation of powers
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and then you have checks and balances they were clever it was not it's not a bad idea these guys
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were clever because that's not a bad idea if you have three branches of government you have the
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executive you have the legislative branch and you have the judiciary right and that's what america
00:39:49.340
is america the government is three branches and then you have to have a separation of powers and
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then you have to have checks and balances so in a sense the judiciary has to hold the executive to
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account the executive has to in a way hold the has some powers that the legislature doesn't have
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like the senate and the house of representatives and they're all sort of checking each other
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they designed it in that way it is clever it's not a stupid these people were clever right
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however the idea that this is a christian country there is no inspiration from these people okay
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whether it's john locke montescu or whoever else the founding fathers of america in their
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initial documents whether it's the declaration of independence or the constitution of america
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from the bible okay they weren't looking at the bible yeah at all they didn't care they didn't
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care about to consult it on these matters most of them were free george washington was a freemason
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and it's ironic too that there's complaints about white genocide and they say that the birth rates
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declining but this is the result of liberty democracy freedom freedom allows for porn
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allows for only fans allows for feminism this is why birth rates are declining because people
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don't prioritize marriage anymore but in order to distract people from seeing what's actually
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happening they'll point and blame and say pakistani grooming gangs they'll say you are
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the invaders are are coming in they're replacing us but they also support the wars that cause all
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the immigration that is changing the demographics in the country so it doesn't seem like they
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actually care about the result of the changing demographics they want perpetual victimhood
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they want to be able to blame a boogeyman because if things are out of your circuit if you can't
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change your reality then you're not responsible for it absolutely and this is a common trend with
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especially disenfranchised groups like these people who do that like they blame other people
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and they're usually poor people and uneducated.
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So like the far right in this country are poor and uneducated
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And they feel sorry for themselves psychologically.
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They feel as if they are failures and they need someone to blame.
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It's kind of like, you know, it's a simple psychology.
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It doesn't require that much analysis, you know.
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they're always going to blame their ex aren't they like and most of the times you know the
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divorce guy is gonna blame oh she was like this or she's gonna say he was like that anyone who
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feels like they failed something needs to blame it's blaming is a normal thing but that's why
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people who are secure in themselves are less likely to want to blame uh pakistani grooming
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they may make a comment about it and say this needs to be changed like in a sober sort of way
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but if you're making your whole identity in a sense around these people that are in england
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okay that i've done some bad things here and there then it says something about your psychological
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fragility and insecurity and they don't actually care about being anti-immigration i saw that
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tommy rubich signed protests and the only unifying idea was being anti-muslim he's just said word
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for verbatim that he wants to end islam uh laura loomer jigsaw this woman here in america who talks
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to trump she's saying that she hates islam and she wants to get rid of it so at these protests
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they pretend that they want remigration even though tommy robinson has admitted that he wants
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Sikhs and Hindus to come in to have a Korean go on stage playing a guitar with bacon on his
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shoulders to be like, oh, look, I eat pork, but he's a Korean. Isn't he an immigrant? They'll
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have Irish people come in. They'll have Nigerian Christians come in and talk about the genocide
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and massacres happening in Nigeria. So I thought you were Britain first. If you're Britain first,
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then you would have British people, not Koreans with bacon. The only unifying ideology is being
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anti-Islam. And so I'll tell the UMA when we see what's happening and we obviously see what the
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strategy is how they use that word terrorist to try to justify everything they do how can you then
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go and spend all your energy and blame iran when they're the ones standing up against what's
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happening it's uh it's very hypocritical and what is the is there any correlation between uh the i
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don't know if you saw peter thiel was exposed there was a leak showing a summit he's hosting
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in ireland where all these silicon valley tech elites uh politicians like ted cruz and actors
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are going about 200 people and i looked through the list of names and there's almost it's almost
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all uh white and jewish people except for two and the two people unfortunately i love saudi arabia
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one is an intelligence uh minister to saudi arabia and one is a uh an ambassador to saudi
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arabia those are the two muslim names i saw on that list well yeah i mean it's the thing is look
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it's it's just because um money okay is the core is it's the thing to look at here right
00:44:28.180
it's saudi arabia is a rich country it's one of the richest countries in the world actually
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if you think about it um that doesn't mean there's no poverty inside of it right but if you
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if you if you go to egypt and give them all a lot of money and they become as rich as the saudis
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you're going to get 10 more 10 times the problems you'll get in saudi arabia so it's these kind of
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things are from the fitna of having money that it gives you more opportunity to do evil okay because
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it makes you it gives you stock now you've got something to bargain and these kind of things
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there are many people in the poor arab world that would love to do all these evil things but they're
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just not they're not afforded the opportunity do you know what i mean right there were even there
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were even people in gaza that were doing uh some stuff like that you know and they're very
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impoverished you know and they were siding with israel and there was a group that was siding with
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israel inside of gaza so you it's it happens it does happen and there's nothing specific about
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the culture that i know of okay it's just i think the correlation thing is money is one of the
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greatest determinants of all of these things it makes people different and that's what we have
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to be careful of the quran tells us about this many times because allah says he thinks that his
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money makes him immortal okay when you get money you start to like you you might be able to associate
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with this right so there was a time where you are didn't have as much money as you had now right
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when you had when you got more famous and you had more money we can't lie it has an impact on how we
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carry ourselves and how we deal with other people and all that kind of stuff right now if you know
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that that's what happens and you're cognizant of this fact then the the dignified person or the
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honorable person is the one who tries to fight against that impulse do you know what i mean
00:46:15.940
now our religion tells us to fight against that impulse but not everyone can but in terms of the
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things that the quran repeatedly warns about is the fitna of money or the the tribulation of money
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because money can change your entire person corrupts you it can corrupt you just like power
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power can corrupt you money can corrupt you so that's why it's nothing to do with culture if you
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if you went to another country and you give them a lot of money or give them a lot of oil right
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and they get rich then the opportunities for evil you know increase that's why it's easy people on
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this website kicked out a stream on they try to convince me every day to take a gambling deal i
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could make you know upwards of eight figures maybe 20 30 million but my life would not change i work
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what would i do differently i still live in the same city that i lived in when i was broke
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i get to travel but i don't need anything material objects don't really impress me or
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that's not what drives me so there's there's no point and in fact i think it's the protection
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i think sneaker now you have a good sort of reputation because if you like let's put it
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this way in your field of uh streamers there's not that many credible people they're entertainers
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there's a lot of like entertainers do you know what i mean like uh if i want to watch someone
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for you have have a good time and laugh or whatever maybe i'll watch i show speed and stuff
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but you you're actually going one step further because there's a difference between fame and
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influence okay influence is when you can actually impact people's opinions you can change their
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the way they think about things okay i mean kim kardashian is an extremely famous person you can
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argue she's influential right you can argue she's extremely influential in fashion and certain
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Even though they weren't as known as she is now
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etc so now that's one thing so the reason why i brought this to attention is because just to tell
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you that you've got the worst thing you want to do right is okay i'm going to get this this deal
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for more money but then what comes at this cost credibility you sacrifice not only just your
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credibility but you sacrifice your voice i saw you brought up i show speed i think he's a great
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streamer i think he says important things but recently he was streaming at a world cup game
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and he did an interview with israeli media and they said what do you say to your fans in israel
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and he says shout out to my fans in israel and he's known for being the guy yelling free
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palestine and maybe i'm over analyzing it but the next day he announces that he has a fifa
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sponsorship and now he could broadcast the fifa world cup semi-finals in the final on his channel
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so usually speed in that sort of scenario would yell free palestine when being confronted by
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an obvious propagandist who wants to normalize israelis in the west but it seemed like something
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shifted there so yes it's it's great for him empty with stormzy so i don't know if you know
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storms he's a rapper here in the uk you know about the situation he had like no uh he was like free
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palestine you know all that kind of stuff in london it's hard to not be pro-palestine because
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there's so many people like london is a pro-palestine place yeah even like 15 percent of
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the population is muslim but even the rest of them you know but it's pro-palestine it's the
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majority pro-palestine in london so he lives in london actually he doesn't live far away from where
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you know and he was pro-palestine and um and then he took down his post and he started i think it
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was what mcdonald's or something so it is a thing it does happen people do come and give you offers
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you have to trade a part of what makes you who you are and your voice for money and power and
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so everybody has to make that decision and it's a you see it everywhere in this industry and i like
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how you were speaking about arab uh nationalism because i don't think that's been discussed
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extensively we spoke last time and i talked about how racial supremacy is the root of all evil the
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first racist was uh the jinn of uh iblis before he became satan he was told to prostrate to adam
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and instead of agreeing and obeying the law's command he wanted to be prostrated to he thought
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he should be obeyed and worshipped and so he made a pact and made a curse to take people away from
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god for the rest of eternity and so this pesky shaitan comes from a racist it comes from ego
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and arrogance and you can see uh israel people like ben gavir he's literally part of the jewish
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power party that's his name that's the name of his party he's the the minister of national security
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in israel yesterday he said all of lebanon must burn he said one israeli tear is equivalent to a
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thousand lebanese tears it's clear what he thinks you have white supremacists too people don't like
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to talk about this they get upset they say you're a liberal but clearly white supremacists people
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like trump just said today that somali shouldn't be in america that they provide nothing they
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produce nothing he said before that they're they're low iq they're scum they don't do while
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ignoring the fraud that's happening not only within his administration but within lakewood new jersey
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and all over america you can also see some sort of nationalism and some sort of transcends that
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you could see supremacy within the out of world which i haven't seen people talk about and obviously
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doesn't represent all and i'm not incentivized to talk about this because i do want to perform
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hajj i would love to to go back but a lot of people are apprehensive because they know that
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there might be some repercussions and maybe there'll be some difficulties but can you explain
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this like because i am as a revert you know i'm not in with uh the gcc and the complication with
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syria as many other muslims are what is this air supremacy i don't know it either because i haven't
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like i said in the beginning i haven't actually lived in those places so i only confronted it
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on twitter um and i was shocked by it right and i don't know where the countries are but it seemed
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There's a lot of them with Saudi Arabian flags.
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But I don't think all of them even were Saudis,
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So, like, just now, before I came on the stream,
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for Arab supremacy from a biological perspective.
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like the Arab Nationalists, something like that.
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So they were actually making the argument that,
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you know, you're not me, I'm not an actual Arab
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And they started calling me all these kinds of names,
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they started calling me all these kinds of names, right?
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You know, at the time when the guy was talking to me,
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Because these people are calling me all that kind of stuff.
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Right. According to us and according to the Christians and Jews as well.
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He's the son of Abraham and the prophet Muhammad goes all the way back up to him.
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So that's that's his lineage. Right. Who was his mother?
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His mother was Hajar or Hagar. And Hagar, where was she from?
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okay now was ismail or ishmael was ishmael ismail or ishmael was he a a pure arab or was he a arabized
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arab he wasn't a pure arab because the pure arab were the yemenis they were the qahtanis and those
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kinds of people and at the time he went to a people called jorhum and they taught him how to
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speak arabic abraham did not speak arabic he exists in mesopotamia okay uh so he he clearly
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was not an arab and then his uh the other side of his lineage were the jews essentially they speak
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hebrew so abraham wasn't that his son wasn't an arab in the beginning okay he didn't he probably
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wasn't speaking arabic growing up then what happened is that when him and his mom hagar or
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because she was looking for water and all this kind of thing
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but then she found an Arab tribe and then they taught her how to speak
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and truly, that's what it is, it's an Arabized lineage
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that majority of people, it might have been the
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as if like so these arab nationalists need to understand that their arguments are weak and it
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it's the same thing as what we were talking about the far right in britain instead of trying to rely
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upon someone else's achievements and someone else's lineage and someone else's biology or
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something that you haven't contributed to go and do something in your life and show us what you can
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do that brings up a great argument i wanted to ask you about because i'm sure this is going to
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come up in a future debate how was that comparable because you brought up the family tree of abraham
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that was my next question so essentially the jews and the arabs are cousins the family tree
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abraham had two wives and isaac and uh isaac and ishmael are half brothers right so it's like a
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cousin ethnicities jews are really cousins of the adams ishmael you have the arab lineage and you
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have uh prophet muhammad peace upon him and you have isaac and you have the the jews so how is
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this comparable because the jews have this idea that they're the chosen people and there's there's
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even uh mentions in the quran if i'm not i do want to ask you about that as well israelis will
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always say that in the quran it says that israel is a promised land to the jews i think the response
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is that uh that it wasn't obeyed and that you know you can only you're only promised this land
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if you obey the commandments of god so no longer it's promised to you but how is that comparable
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If you have this sort of ethno-national belief in Judaism, because it's supposed to be traced back, this is why they don't want to evangelize.
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I spoke to Jews in Times Square yesterday, and they would prefer that people don't convert to Judaism, even though you can.
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Essentially, you have to go through rabbi court.
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They prefer that the goyim follow Noahide laws, which means that they can go to goyim heaven, for lack of a better term.
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Goyim means nation, but the term has changed.
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so is this at all seen within islam because it is traced back and even the mahdi said it's going
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to follow the lineage of ishmael correct yes the mahdi will be uh from the what we believe he's
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going to be from the descendants of hassan okay with the the prophet had two uh two grandchildren
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from fatima hassan hussein so sunnis believe it's going to be from the lineage of hassan and the
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Shiites believe it's going to be from the lineage of Hussein.
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But on the point of, yes, there is truth in this.
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But as I mentioned, the actual pure biological Arabs were not Ismail
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because he wasn't a biological Arab in that sense.
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That's why the scholars of Islam, they said, what is an Arab?
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And one of the main opinions is that it's just whoever speaks Arabic
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because they realized okay that if we if we don't say whoever speaks arabic isn't that like as a
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first language that's their first language arabic is their first language if we don't say that then
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we're gonna have to say that ismail really wasn't an arab and his sons were not really arabs
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you know so it has to be about language because if it was about genetics and biology
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then he wouldn't be an arab because he what he didn't grow up speaking that and his father
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wasn't speaking that so uh it's about number one language i think that's the key thing is language
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so you can have a black arab so sudanese people are black arabs in mauritania black harrods
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oh myron gains yeah he's a black arab that's what he is he's an arab myron gains is an arab
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okay and he's a black arab that's a great example of that so um but i don't know like
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that's an interesting discussion so do you is part of the reason that there is some sort of
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arab nationalism is it because of uh obviously it's not comparable to the the chosen people
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within judaism and uh and how that ethnicity is protected but so ishmael so uh abraham was
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speaking aramaic just like uh israeli salam not aramaic i i he was speaking a language
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that was probably spoken i don't know what language it was google says akkadian and aramaic
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is that what it says are you reading it somewhere yeah it says okay maybe akkadian akkadian sounds
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more reasonable potentially yeah i mean there's nothing there's no source of the like definitive
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nature this it's all estimates right because there's no archaeological evidence of abraham's
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existence um that we don't even know where he was and what he did like and there's no extra
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biblical so people are guessing right but yeah akkadian sounds more right but yeah it could be
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so is there a valid argument a semitic language is the the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
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he's from the lineage of ishmael that's right if you're saying ishmael so abraham
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is there an argument to say that he's that he's not an arab yeah he's not an arab he's definitely
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not an arab the final prophet's not an arab and abraham abraham's not abraham's not but
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from that lineage so so how can we definitively say and excuse me if this is a ridiculous question
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but so then how can we definitively say that prophet muhammad uh was an arab if it comes to
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that that's what i'm saying so what counts as an arab and i'm saying that that's why the scholars
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have differed and some of them say so whoever's got a father that's an arab so whoever's got
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son they make it through like uh family relations but i think the clearest answer is
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the the ones who speak arabic is the first language is an arab doesn't matter what color
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your skin is uh arab is more is more something to do with your language than it is to do with
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anything else so if that wasn't the case think about it if that was not the case ismail he his
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dad was not speaking arabic he probably grew up not speaking arabic right he spoke the language
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of his father to communicate with him which wasn't arabic and then he went to jorhum the tribe
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tribe the arab tribe they taught him arabic they taught him and his mom and they they didn't know
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how to speak arabic before so it was after the learning of that that there was kind of like an
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initiation process right and then his sons obviously were the arabs and um the bible says
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that his sons are called kedar by the way in the book of genesis his sons are the people of kedar
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i don't know if you know of um the very famous prediction and in isaiah 42 11 in the book of
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isaiah chapter 42 verse 11 it says there's going to be a prophet that comes in the future
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and that he's going to be from the people of kedar yeah and that means he has to be an arab
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and he's going to come and he's going to be in you know mount salah which we know is in medina
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so it's going to be in arabia there's no other prophet that came with that so even the bible
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predicts there's going to be an arab prophet or cedarite if you like prophet that's going to come
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from the arabs okay and uh yeah i appreciate you coming on i think this this is an important
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discussion i think lastly what can you say to speak on the division in the umma because right
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now we're probably the weak even though we're the fastest growing religion even though there's
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almost two billion muslims it's definitely the weakest that um has ever been what could we do
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to work in a way where these attacks and everything happening it's prevented and we
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could be stronger because it's honestly there have been times where we've been as weak as this
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if i'm honest right like do you know how we were talking about um salahuddin la yubi and and like
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this many numbers like our populations are massive right now yeah and what's incredible bro is that
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the prophet actually predicted this this time and he said that the time has come that the the nations
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and to die that they will um conglomerate against you just like people conglomerate together
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they said is that because we're going to be in few in number
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actually you're going to be a massive population
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but you're going to be like the froth of the ocean
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and then the prophet also said that the enemy will not fear you anymore
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look it's very interesting the enemy is not going to fear you that the the the rob and the the terror
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the fear that the enemy used to have of you and the respect that's gone now yeah it's going to
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be removed and this is why and he gave us the reason why the prophet told us because you love
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the world and you hate to die it's materialism yeah so if we are able to be aesthetic and if
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we're able to endure pain if we're able to be resilient and if we all do patient and tough and
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religiously disciplined and unite clearly that's what the enemy hates clearly that's what the enemy
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does not want clearly that's against all the hadiths that we've discussed today all the
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verses that we've discussed today clearly that's how the only thing about it there is no way we
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can be competitive with the united states of america individually there is no one muslim
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country in the world that's anywhere near as materially competitive but if you have seven or
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eight or nine or ten of them and the people can get along with each other and the people don't
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are not racist to each other they're not tribal tribalistic to each other there's no sectarianism
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there's you know they understand this person's oh it's a different sect a different understanding
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will agree to disagree no problem whatever in a way i'm sorry to put it like this in a way just
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like the west has they had to go through bloody wars i mean you know we were talking about uh
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black lives that matter and um the right one talking point is that there's always black on
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black crime there is black and black crime but you know what's even more significant than black
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on black crime white on white crime because why black on black crime tens of thousands of people
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die white on white crime world war two hundreds hundreds of millions of people die right tens
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and hundreds of millions so when these guys go at it it's a different level you know you had world
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war ii you had world war one these were nationalistic wars yeah look at so the west understood
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it the other west got it like oh nationalism caused this that's why everyone toned it down
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if you go to europe now all the all the european nations despite the fact and i keep saying this
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the arabs every 26th nation of the arabs if you just look at it materially you're nowhere near
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these europeans you're nowhere near them my friend you have to do so many things to get close to them
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you actually need 100 years that's i know it sounds ridiculous you need a not 30 years 50 years
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you need 100 years you know why because they have institutions that are long established
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they have universities that are the best in the world they have infrastructure that you can't get
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they have their medical there's so many things their militaries their their technology their
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science their discovery that they have immaterially the west the the european countries
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have overtaken the vast majority of muslim countries by a long distance so if you want
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to try and compete with them on this level you're you've already lost and you need 50 100 years
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you're not going to make it however the only one thing that we have to our advantage as carl young
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seen anything like that before when it attached itself with islam and became the great mali empire
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mansa musa was the richest man of the world black man richest man in the world that's what islam
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done for mali look what islam done for the maghrib they took over spain and portugal and these were
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muslim countries for 600 years look what islam done for for the arabs it had it not been for islam
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what would the arabs be they'd be probably one of the least impressive nations humanity has ever
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known so don't try to ally don't sign the abraham records and allow military bases from the enemy to
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be in your country many have seemed to have given up on trying to follow the quran sunnah and just
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want to follow if you can't beat them join the thing that's given us success nationalism materially
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and historically if we're honest is because islam has an infrastructure i even saw sam harris the
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atheist talking about it with a friend of his there's a clip of him saying his friend was saying
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to him it's incredible it's marvelous it's wondrous how islam has this infrastructure of
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like the military infrastructure the all of these things that incentivizes people to do in the state
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a context he found incredible when you this when you abandon that okay you abandon that
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and you try and go for nationalism brother wherever you come from in the muslim world
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you lose china's over is stronger than any muslim country america is stronger than any muslim
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country russia is stronger than any muslim country the only way you're gonna survive
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is if you team up you have to understand that which means in order for you to to be strong
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and have iza and be and go back to your old days allah does not change the condition of a people
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until they change the condition of themselves what you have to do is abolish extreme sectarianism
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learn just like the westerners did but they took 100 million people dead to learn it we can learn
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from their mistake without going through that which is that get learned learn to get along
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with someone you disagree with learn to get along with someone you just okay this guy's certainly
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okay is that zady over here no problem you know brother we disagree with you can have a little
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debate here and there but you know you know we're gonna we're gonna confront this common cause over
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here or your brother where are you from your ashari are you whatever it is that they say they are
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oh you're black you're african you're arab okay but we're gonna team up on this one here
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that's it if you can't bring yourself to do that we lose this in fact is one of the most important
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things in islam there's a guy he's a military general his name is ross
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rajas and he wrote a book on the prophet muhammad bro and i think it's called the general ship of
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islam that's the name of the book i read this book a couple of years ago it's called the general ship
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of islam i believe he was part of the american military and i believe he was trying to know about
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islam so that he can do something in afghanistan i don't know what he was doing that for
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but this book he says something interesting inside of the book he says that the genius of
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if you want to be successful in the world there is no muslim country that can be competitive with
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the world leaders today on a material level you have to team up the enemies hate the idea of that
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they want to sow the seeds of division that's why they are paying madhalists that's why they are
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funding takfirists and isis and using this and the reason why they're doing it is because they
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want to see muslims divide they love that stuff they want to see muslim shia and sunnah kill each
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other they'd love that stuff it's that we're doing their job for them basically dividing
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we're doing their job for them that's the truth of it you know they want it they like that stuff
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they want they want us just to be to be on the floor so that's why we have to say okay we get
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the game we understand our limitations we have to be humble we're not the greatest here if we're
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talking about things materially we're not the greatest we are far behind the others there's
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no reason for our nationalism. We shouldn't be nationalistic. In fact, and I said this to the
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Arabs, there is more of a case for Arab, sorry, for French and British nationalism than there is
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for Arab nationalism, because these countries have done more materially. If you're talking
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about material, it's game over. If you remove the religious element and the fact that you've got
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Muslims in your country and they believe in Allah, the morality, like Carl Jung said,
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we can have moral arguments and say look you've got transgenders
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in your country, we don't have like this movement in our
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country, that's the thing we can win the argument
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we're the best because, okay yeah what did you invent
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sorry in the last hundred years, what did you do
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sports even the olympics i know it's rigged in the morocco's doing well morocco's very good
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even bro even egypt's okay you know yeah that was a good first game iran played well iran played
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they have to sleep in mexico not too bad yeah and it would be incredible if it's iran versus
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the usa that would be like one of the most incredible things bro they're saying in the
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chat algebra what muhammad job said in the last hundred years the inventions of what been a
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we are not talking about the golden age of Islam.
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We are talking about the last hundred years.
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figure, probably one of the biggest polymaths in
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and you bring these guys and the Spanish Muslims
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bro let's be honest their contribution has been massive
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and all this huge people don't even know that history right you know and they bring it all
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together that's when we get something otherwise we're not going to get anything if you prioritize
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your islamic identity you get something the last hundred years has been abysmal for the muslim
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world we have to come to terms with that and realize that the reason is because we've been
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disunited and we've been away from the deen if you want to if you want to be if you want to go
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back you have to identify as muslim first be united get back on the deen and and not care
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about these things, these tribal distinctions, which
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except in piety so if we don't stick with this stuff and we go with division and we go with
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disunity then do you know these genocides that we're seeing now wallahi they're just going to
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get worse and worse and worse the reason why we have these genocides is because we're not united
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if we were united they wouldn't do it couldn't do it but they're struggling with iran imagine
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if there was some kind of a block imagine if the gcc were standing up for the people and follow
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instead of signing the abraham records if if iran could win a 2v1 like this and get them to
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capitulate and give them 400 billion dollars imagine us united and i will die trying to bring
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that the nationalists told me mbs did not sign the abraham records and i said well fantastic
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let's hope it stays that way this is good inshallah it stays that way inshallah stays away
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that's why too the world cup is a perfect example of that we have so many muslim teams
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senegal is playing you have uzbekistan iran it's a reminder that the prophets allah did not say he
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was shia sufi he did not say he said he was muslim that's what we have the advantage on our side but
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we remember that we have the truth and we talk about how much wealth they have and elon musk
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is the first trillionaire if you pray the first two uh rakat before fajr you have more wealth in
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him all that's all you have to do every morning if you pray that those two extra rakat you're
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richer than the richest man in the world and that's a that's a reminder that i i keep every
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day and it's difficult because i don't know if you're aware not to keep you too long but
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There are very obviously, and I wish I saw it sooner, paid agitators and controlled opposition that are anti-unity.
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If they say publicly that they're against unity and they stick with the tribe, you are clearly getting paid.
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You are clearly an enemy and you are clearly taking away the one power that we have.
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So these people, they will mix the truth with lies.
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inventions they may be cia inventions very possibly but then they recruit people who are
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vulnerable and emotional into their cause using emotional manipulation and they actually divide
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muslims with this nonsense and the same thing with the madhalists and the same thing with many other
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movements are fringe movements the hardline literalists from all over right they're trying
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to recruit hardline literalists to sow division and they pay for it like it's in their reports
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the rand reports has the word madhalist inside of it it has the word it has these things that the
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isis and you know that we've we've done this for them and we've done that and the epstein files
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has something about that right it's about isis and how they were funding the things so it's clear
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and obvious it's clear and obvious that this is what they want from us and it's also clear and
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obvious as you mentioned that the only the way out is unity and as i say you know this is what
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we need to do we have to have we go back into the the centrist idea of islam we're the middle
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ground islam and these fringes that you have to ignore them on twitter the fact is and even this
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is advice to myself because the these guys the way that elon musk has set the algorithm he's
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accentuated the extremist voices yeah like you know i mean these guys are like one percent of
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the population in whatever country they're in two three percent five percent and but you can hear
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him you know so the that doesn't represent the world actually no it's something you know it can
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sometimes make you think it's a false reality these aren't people in fact there's british
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supporters of the national team saying free palisine on national television it's ironic
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that elon musk is quite literally an african migrant into the u.s and he calls up on tommy
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rubinstein's protests and says you either fight back or die you either fight back or die to people
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in england saying britain first an african migrant into america do you see the the issue here is that
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he'll say that he's a double migrant because his granddad whoever was was an was a european
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migrant into africa and since we're calling black people african americans we should call
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people like him european africans he's like an inverse myron yeah because if you call african
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americans somebody come from africa and they settled so then white people who live in south
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africa what should they be called then if we're going to be consistent with the terminology then
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they should be called european africans so this is a european african who's somehow now gone into
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the usa with and was part of the government or something the usa government it's all it's a
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hoax man the whole thing's a joke and it's embarrassment because they might as well just
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say look we want a tribe okay they want a tribe these people because they have no religion anymore
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No, our tribe is that we hate these people
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yeah it's pathetic it's embarrassing did you see keir starmer is set to reportedly announce his
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resignation on monday do you know the reason why no i need to look into that i'll look into this
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as well a last one i do want to ask you about uh hassan piker was just banned from the uk he was
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yes his visa was revoked him and his uncle chank ueger the young turks hopefully they're not like
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autoturk but they are saying a lot of the correct things right now and we've had a lot of differences
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over the years but i think he recently with the iran war is getting it very spot on and there was
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a lot of difference of opinions because he does embody a lot of leftist ideology and seems to be
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supportive but mom danny in new york is doing a good job of bringing unity at a time of all this
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division and i think uh someone like hassan seeing that attack too a lot of people wanted me to
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celebrate when he was getting subpoenaed by the feds which is obviously a political attack because
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he's anti-israel and then you see his visa revoked in england and it's just that that's not anything
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to celebrate has your opinion changed on him or what's your analysis of someone like him i don't
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know i know he's sort of left-wing guy but i'm so i'm certainly for his coming to england and i'm
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certainly uh impressed and in agreement with him on the palestine issue he seems like he's a strong
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pro-palestine voice articulate man charismatic individual and the fact that they blocked him
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from coming to the country, is nothing but something that he should be proud of
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They wouldn't do that to an insignificant person, you know,
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if he was just somebody who was going to come and give a couple of speeches here and there.
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But it actually has really backfired on a PR level for the United Kingdom.
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And the United Kingdom needs to understand that this is making them look very bad, okay?
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I mean, not to sound like a British nationalist now,
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If you're a British person and you want to be a nationalist,
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Your country has, you know, they did lots of bad things,
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but in a way you can think, well, that's still impressive.
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They did so many inventions that came out of the UK.
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so many works so many science so many sports they're very good at sports disproportionately
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good there's many things to be proud of as a british person so the country has a reputation
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people all around the world want to come to the uk they want to live in here in this country so if
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you have a country with a reputation like that why are you letting a foreign body and the lobby
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all over the world, they want to be part of this
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Look, if you wanted to know what the religion of the West is, it's no longer Christianity.
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In Southern America, that's where Christianity is prevalent.
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I'm talking about like, you know, the Bible Belt in America.
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Northeast, I mean, there are Christians there, but look at the population of Christians there
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But the point is, in Western Europe, it's not like that.
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The Christians are not even a majority in the UK anymore.
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If you go to Scandinavia, they're not even that.
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They're maybe 20% of the population, maybe 10%.
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It's a majority atheist country or a religious country.
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You know, these Norway and Sweden and Denmark and these countries.
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So the point is, is that we can't lie and pretend that these are Christian countries.
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In a sense, your religion is social liberalism, classical liberalism.
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that's your religion the heart of what you should believe in is freedom of speech and expression
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like voltaire said i don't voltaire was a liberal philosopher he said that i don't believe in what
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you say but i will defend to the death your right to say it that's a quote from voltaire i don't
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believe in what you say but i will fight to the death this is the liberal tradition imagine you're
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breaking that you're breaking j.s mill voltaire you're breaking the liberal tradition itself what
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What your country stands for, you're breaking that in order to appease a lobby.
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You're ruining the reputation of Great Britain with this unnecessary move.
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By the way, the Oxford Union, which just hosted Tommy Robinson for a debate.
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So he's allowed to go to the Oxford Union.
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and to the oxford union's credit they completely rejected what the government did they had a
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public statement and he's going to a prestigious place he's not a threat to the public him or
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cenk wiga neither of them are a threat to the public and you've blocked his entry into the
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united kingdom it shows that you are now infiltrated just happened in australia i went
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to go visit and then immediately without even streaming they found from an instagram story
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with sunny bill williams that i was in australia media outrage sky news australia did a whole piece
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on the plane home they emailed me with a list of tweets and articles of me criticizing israel
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revoke my visa and so the nations they pride themselves on liberalism and democracy and
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freedom of speech as soon as you criticize one state what'd you say did they give you a ban
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i am yeah i can no longer apply for a visa in australia lifetime ban yeah all right i'll try
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to appeal i don't know if you ever fought back against that i could ask you privately but i did
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see a koala kangaroo and i saw the opera house so i'm satisfied with us you go to new zealand
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but i would say just wait a bit um look i think now it's a bad time for people that are pro-palestine
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activists to travel around in certain countries africa's open latin america's open no problem
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there's there's lots of these people they don't care about this stuff but the ones who are
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infiltrated by the lobby um it's i'm actually quite i don't know whether to be surprised or
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impressed by their but what they've done i don't know what they it is impressive within 80 years
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the amount of control and infiltration it's it to be honest it is impressive uh yes it is i mean
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They must be doing lots of things, the money they're giving them.
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Whatever's happening, to get a country like United Kingdom or Australia,
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you're a strong country, you're a reputable country,
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and everyone can see that this is what's happening.
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And you're going against your own principles of freedom of speech and expression.
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That's impressive on the side of the Zionist lobby.
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you have to give them credit that actually they're able to play this game even to be honest
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but these conversations are working because maga the the right wing the republicans they claim to
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be conservative in america they now have to capitulate and say that israel is going too
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far in lebanon this is the first separation that we've seen in trump's administration from israel
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the first major disagreement so it seems like these conversations are valuable we should keep
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having them and we have to remember that unity is our strength and everything else is uh is a
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distraction and a lie and i thank you so much for coming on i enjoyed this conversation it's always
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a pleasure speaking to you uh your you know your your education background makes this interesting
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i have all the books too that you you mentioned and inshallah i'll get the the time to to read
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them and so i can intellectually discombobulate the enemy no but you know what one thing i'll
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say to you you're going to get a lot of backlash from a lot of muslims that are going to tell you
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this that whatever okay no problem just differentiate between two things religious
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can have their political opinions. And I'll tell
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pushback and they're going to hurt you, trying to hurt you
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with this stuff but be strong twitter is a suspect for these things and so is all the other all the
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other platforms um your political opinions i think are sound bro they're good you're thinking right
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and um you're holding the stick from the middle you understand uh all the things that all the
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arguments are made by everybody and to be honest you know i think a lot of these guys they don't
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have a strong geopolitical um grasp of things as you do so a lot of the problem is that they speak
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about things they have no idea they have not studied uh politics they have not my first degree
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was in politics i actually did a whole degree in politics you know um we had to go through theories
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so i from someone who's i would like to think educated on even this topic you know i think
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what you're saying is like yeah he's following something he's he's getting this he's getting
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the dynamics the power the balance of power these guys in the comments they're not getting any of
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they're kind of like childlike you know i mean so unless they're coming with like sometimes they'll
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tell you things which are okay if you're doing something wrong or you shouldn't be doing and
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they say this haram that's fine that's different but when it comes to like political opinions just
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because they're muslim muslim name and stuff it doesn't mean that they're that means they're right
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thank you for saying that and i think that the the only way because they can't prove me wrong
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so the way they discredit me is bring up uh jahalil things you see accusations from
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um i saw you respond to that one it's just the most asinine things you can imagine it was like
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but that's uh that's the technique to pull people away from what i'm talking about because you can't
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prove me wrong and so people just try to carry the assassination they did it with me man because
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i laughed loudly and stuff like i was going back and forth with some of this the scholars of the
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area of arabia and i was i was writing in arabic and stuff like that to them and at the end of it
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when i went back and forth back and forth i've seen the comments me like a video or a gif or
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whatever of me laughing loudly or me with my shirt off in the cage like you but this is not
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if this is the guy that's going to be telling you about islamic studies you know me on top of a guy
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punching the guy like you know it's because it's it breaks all the conformities you know what i
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mean like this is not this is not the guy that's going to tell us what's what's right and wrong
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this guy over here but that's um it's a fallacy it's actually it's called the genetic fallacy
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it's that something is wrong because the person who said it right so they're committing the
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approach and it shows that they have no argument
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should say it. It's like, you know what I mean?
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I'm such an entertainer and I'm such a jahil
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and I've done all these bad things. Then it should
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The fact that you haven't actually shows that you've given up
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and i wish you the best of luck inshallah you stay steadfast and continue doing the right thing
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and uh apparently we're in kwani so it's always it's always great it's always a pleasure speaking
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to muhammad ajab my brother what it is i hate what they mean by that is mainstream sunni how i put it
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is free sunni we're free we're not told what to do by governments that's the difference between
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us and them they're told what to do by state interested governments that that tell me who is
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freer the one who like me and you we have let's be honest granted by the state freedom of actual
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freedom of expression we can say what we believe politically a lot of these people cannot say
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exactly what they believe otherwise they'll be arrested they will do this they'll be tortured
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whatever will happen to them right so they are not free so they have no right to speak and those in
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the west that follow those unfree men okay then since you're following the unfree men
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and they're not free therefore you're not free okay you're because you're following an unfree
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man and they're not free and this the whole institution is stay interested so we are the
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free sunnis we are the main bro what you you we are the mainstream sunnis the hardliners and the
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fringes and you're going to see them all over your comments bro all the time just always put in your
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mind they represent one percent of the muslim populace and they they probably represent one
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percent of the scholarly tradition as well these people who say that shia is a kuffar or this one
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these are extremists they're by islamic standards they're fringe groups they're hated in their
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populations no one likes them uh and they're just loud on twitter and that's it and wallahi i would
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love to continue running away from the plantation i'd rather be a runaway slave than have a hundred
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billion dollars i'm gonna run away for the rest of my life i will never be a slave inshallah thank
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you so much muhammad ajab i look forward to speaking to you again soon allah bless you
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how was that how was that that was better than i expected that was longer than i expected too
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and bro that conversation he said a lot of the points that i've been making on stream in a more
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concise way i love what he said about they unify based off of what they hate because they have
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nothing in common anymore bars and how important unity is i've been reiterating this the entire
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year and the way he was able to piece that together was impressive so shout out to muhammad
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hijab make sure to subscribe to him on youtube that's our brother brother hijab and if you don't
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you've been intellectually discombobulated you're finished you're done