SNEAKO - August 09, 2024


BOSNIA TAKEOVER WITH WARNER - MUSLIM LANTERN - ARAB - YOUNGDON

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Length

4 hours and 43 minutes

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191.28

Word count

54,165

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3,858

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Misogyny

60

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Toxicity

413

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Hate speech

359

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LoveSpeaker is in Bosnia and Herzegovina and we got a lot of guests to talk about life, money, music, and more. LoveSpeaker is a streamer, content creator, and content creator from Brooklyn, New York, and Atlanta, Georgia.

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00:00:00 love speech looks good sounds good talk to me
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00:00:51 Love speech.
00:01:19 Talk to me.
00:01:20 Everything good?
00:01:21 What is his name?
00:01:22 I know that
00:01:23 I'm by it
00:01:24 Working with the
00:01:25 Being.
00:01:26 What?
00:01:28 You're kidding!
00:01:30 I'm fine.
00:01:33 Lets go.
00:01:36 What are you doing?
00:01:39 I'm not playing places.
00:01:42 Oh! 0.60
00:01:43 No, did you hear?
00:02:13 Come on in here, love speech. 1.00
00:02:43 Okay, I'm going to waste all my money doing desktops and hotels. 0.99
00:02:52 I don't give a fuck. 0.99
00:02:58 It doesn't. 0.99
00:03:01 Travel the world and make money.
00:03:02 It's not wasting money if you're living life and doing exactly what you want to do.
00:03:08 What are you going to save money for?
00:03:10 Take the God pill.
00:03:13 Take the God pill.
00:03:43 Money's water.
00:03:44 Money's water, brother.
00:03:46 We got a lot of guests today, man.
00:03:51 Why did I start early?
00:03:52 Because I'm always on time.
00:03:54 I started my own time.
00:03:55 I looked in front of them and I took steps and I said to them, instead of creating your
00:03:59 own footprints, walk in the footprints that I've already made.
00:04:04 Longer vlog speech.
00:04:18 I don't even like lights.
00:04:25 I was screaming at my daddy told me it ain't Christ-like.
00:04:28 I was screaming at the reverberate.
00:04:29 Just like Mike.
00:04:31 I'm looking for a bright light.
00:04:32 Seagull with your life like.
00:04:33 Riding on a white, right.
00:04:35 Starting like a snipe fight.
00:04:36 Pressing on the gas.
00:04:37 Supernova for a night.
00:04:38 Like dreaming at my dad.
00:04:40 And he told me it ain't Christ-like.
00:04:41 But nobody never tell you when you're being like Christ.
00:04:44 Only ever seeing me.
00:04:45 Only when they need me.
00:04:47 Like a Tyler Perry.
00:04:48 I see you guys.
00:04:53 Millennial Groyper.
00:04:55 Halalco. 0.87
00:04:56 G from New York.
00:04:59 Rumblebot.
00:05:00 Samir.
00:05:01 Love speech.
00:05:01 Talk to me.
00:05:02 Dissectivote support. 1.00
00:05:03 NPC.
00:05:03 The muscle guy.
00:05:04 Unique Air Force.
00:05:06 Loyals.
00:05:07 What's up?
00:05:07 Love speech.
00:05:08 What's up?
00:05:09 Great stream today.
00:05:10 It's 2.30 in Bosnia. 1.00
00:05:12 I don't give a fuck. 0.99
00:05:12 I've been up all day long. 0.99
00:05:14 I've been up all day working.
00:05:18 And he said it ain't Christ-like.
00:05:29 One more.
00:05:30 One more.
00:05:30 One more while you get in here.
00:05:31 We got a big stream today.
00:05:32 We got a big stream.
00:05:33 You guys missed the panel streams?
00:05:34 We got one of those today.
00:05:36 We got a lot to talk about.
00:05:37 Trending on Twitter regardless.
00:05:41 Bosnia.
00:05:43 Steima.
00:05:44 Bosnia.
00:05:48 Why were you scared when we were taking pictures?
00:05:55 Because I had to go stream, brother.
00:05:56 Mother, I have to go work.
00:05:57 Elite content.
00:06:17 Any energy, man.
00:06:18 Move faster.
00:06:21 Going 95 on the 95.
00:06:22 I know you won't.
00:06:24 Don't crash.
00:06:24 Walking on the bridge.
00:06:26 I threw my sins over the deep end.
00:06:28 Sip it to my stomach.
00:06:29 I heard this one.
00:06:30 I lost three friends.
00:06:31 Early money brainstorming.
00:06:33 I can't sleep.
00:06:34 We're on a world tour.
00:06:36 World tour.
00:06:37 Love speech world tour. 1.00
00:06:38 Fuck a sleep schedule. 1.00
00:06:49 Roll call, Jack. 1.00
00:06:50 Come on, Luki.
00:06:51 D-R-A-Squared. 0.97
00:06:51 Millennial Goyper.
00:06:52 MPC-204.
00:06:53 Mosby.
00:06:54 River Hendrix.
00:06:55 The African 49. 0.94
00:06:57 NF.
00:06:57 Benz.
00:06:57 Adox.
00:06:59 Muslim guy.
00:07:00 Immortar. 0.96
00:07:01 There we go.
00:07:23 Now you're moving, man.
00:07:24 No, I didn't go to Bosnia to go to hotels, man.
00:07:32 I've been outside all day.
00:07:33 I've been outside all day long, but. 1.00
00:07:38 Shit, moving gang. 1.00
00:07:39 Yeah, it's moving, bro. 1.00
00:07:40 It's moving.
00:07:40 Move all day like this whole time.
00:07:41 It's never going to be here for the whole stream.
00:07:43 It's going to be a good stream.
00:07:43 I was out for sale.
00:07:46 But I couldn't tell.
00:07:48 God made it rain.
00:07:49 The devil made it hell.
00:07:51 Dropped out of school.
00:07:52 But I'm the one in Yale.
00:07:54 Made the best tracks.
00:07:55 It still went off the rail.
00:07:56 I go down, down, down.
00:07:58 Just a new town, town, town.
00:07:59 Just a new 10, 10, 10.
00:08:01 I'm going in, in, in.
00:08:02 Here I go on a new trip.
00:08:04 Here I go, I get too lit.
00:08:05 Here I go, I get too rich.
00:08:07 Here I go with a new chick. 1.00
00:08:08 And I know what the truth is.
00:08:10 Still playing after two kids.
00:08:11 It's a lot to digest.
00:08:13 When your life all is moving.
00:08:14 What's good, guys?
00:08:14 I'm going to touch your digest.
00:08:16 Live from Bosnia.
00:08:17 Steima.
00:08:18 Had a great time in Bosnia so far.
00:08:20 Probably one or two more days here.
00:08:22 Then we got to keep the world tour going.
00:08:37 What's good, everybody?
00:08:38 What's good, everybody?
00:08:40 All right.
00:08:40 We got some good guests today.
00:08:41 We have a lot to talk about.
00:08:42 There's a lot to get into.
00:08:44 And I've been wanting to go live all day.
00:08:46 We're going to cover everything.
00:08:47 We have two special guests that are waiting over here patiently.
00:08:50 So if they could, oh, they're busy working right now.
00:08:52 But not only that, we're going to call some Christians as well.
00:08:55 We're going to have some good yap sessions.
00:08:56 We have a good panel to talk about.
00:08:58 There's been quite a bit of drama, quite a bit of good things too.
00:09:00 I just want to focus on the drama as well.
00:09:02 We're pushing the love speech movement forward.
00:09:04 We are infiltrating everything through the cancellation.
00:09:07 Everybody cannot stop yapping about this.
00:09:09 I want to cover a lot.
00:09:10 And it was great to meet a lot of the people in Bosnia today.
00:09:13 Croatia.
00:09:14 Croatia, I'm coming. 0.96
00:09:15 I'm coming to Croatia.
00:09:17 Inshallah.
00:09:17 I don't know if it's confirmed yet because we do change last second of time.
00:09:20 But we're going to go to Croatia.
00:09:21 And then maybe the UK afterwards.
00:09:22 And then maybe a couple other countries.
00:09:23 We're going to keep this world tour going.
00:09:26 You can't really do IRLs that well here.
00:09:28 There were some God Pill streams today.
00:09:29 If you're God Pill, say hi. 0.83
00:09:31 I saw you guys that we were, you know, walking around doing streams in different places.
00:09:35 We went on ATVs today.
00:09:36 But the connection isn't perfect.
00:09:38 And you can't even use the backpack in this country.
00:09:39 So I don't want to have a terrible connection to IRL streams.
00:09:42 I'd rather, you know, have a good message and have a good conversation.
00:09:45 And be able to talk to you guys regardless of where we are in the world.
00:09:48 I've only slept two hours last night just from morning to night nonstop work.
00:09:51 But it's good.
00:09:52 I'm focused.
00:09:52 Everyone's telling me to go on vacation.
00:09:54 Snego, you need to go to sleep.
00:09:56 Snego, take a break.
00:09:58 Snego, go get a tan like Tommy Rubenstein.
00:10:00 I'm good.
00:10:01 I want to work nonstop.
00:10:02 We need to keep on defeating Shaitan. 1.00
00:10:05 Canceled everywhere.
00:10:05 So I'm going to work twice as hard as a competition.
00:10:07 I'm not going to slow down.
00:10:08 And I enjoy this, man.
00:10:09 I enjoy preparing for this and working hard and doing what I'm supposed to do.
00:10:13 I think that this is exactly what I'm supposed to be doing.
00:10:15 And I feel more focused like this.
00:10:17 I don't feel depressed when I'm like this.
00:10:18 When I'm thinking about 30 things at once and my mind is always racing.
00:10:21 That's where I'm at peace.
00:10:22 I'm at peace and chaos.
00:10:24 And today is going to be a chaotic stream.
00:10:25 We have some chaotic guests.
00:10:26 I would like to welcome them.
00:10:27 We have Muslim Lantern and I Am The Water.
00:10:29 Say Salaam Alaikum.
00:10:30 Say Salaam Alaikum to them, man.
00:10:33 My brothers, thank you for coming back.
00:10:35 Salaam Alaikum, everyone.
00:10:36 We're back.
00:10:37 Long time.
00:10:38 Long time.
00:10:38 Well, two days.
00:10:39 And The Warner.
00:10:41 Let's go.
00:10:42 Have no fear.
00:10:43 The Warner is here.
00:10:44 Let's go.
00:10:44 He's here to warn you.
00:10:45 It's been a long time.
00:10:47 They've been asking for you to come back since the Ramadan streams. 1.00
00:10:50 Hey, I missed it, man.
00:10:51 Long live Love Speaks, baby.
00:10:52 Let's go.
00:10:52 Of course.
00:10:53 And of course, we did a good stream with Muslim Lantern the other day.
00:10:57 And for the Christians typing L, we're going to call some too. 0.80
00:11:00 We're going to have a good conversation today.
00:11:02 Yeah, I just wanted to bring on some smart guests.
00:11:05 It's good to be around some brothers.
00:11:06 We did.
00:11:07 Can we say what we were doing earlier?
00:11:09 We're just walking around in the city.
00:11:11 Yeah, just walking around, seeing Bosnia.
00:11:12 Walking around, sitting down.
00:11:13 We had some drinks.
00:11:15 Obviously, halal drinks.
00:11:16 Just coffee.
00:11:17 I had some shisha.
00:11:18 I had some shisha.
00:11:20 He did not.
00:11:20 No one else did.
00:11:21 Some soda, basically.
00:11:22 Some soda and some coffee.
00:11:24 Also, the ATVs today, too.
00:11:25 ATVs were good.
00:11:26 I drank about eight coffees today.
00:11:28 I feel like coffee, water, cigarette, get up.
00:11:30 I'm just pretty much running on naps and coffees nonstop.
00:11:34 But they keep saying, like, why are you going all the way to Bosnia?
00:11:36 You just do streams in the hotel.
00:11:37 Do you think this is a waste?
00:11:38 I think it's good because you're here.
00:11:40 No, no, no, no.
00:11:41 You learn a lot when you travel.
00:11:43 The problem with Americans is they don't leave their city. 1.00
00:11:46 The majority of Americans have not left their city, let alone their state.
00:11:49 You know?
00:11:49 So, and that's the problem.
00:11:50 Americans are not cultured. 1.00
00:11:52 You see, with you, alhamdulillah, you're an American, but you're cultured.
00:11:54 You've been around all these different countries.
00:11:56 Yeah.
00:11:56 And you get to experience all these things.
00:11:57 This is all a learning experience, bro.
00:11:59 And you're a young man, bro.
00:12:00 This is all going to benefit you later on, all the connections.
00:12:02 They talk about me like I'm a bait.
00:12:03 Like, I'm 25 years old.
00:12:04 Like, oh, you're a little kid.
00:12:05 Like, what the? 0.87
00:12:06 Like, you guys call me unk.
00:12:07 You say I'm old and I'm balding.
00:12:09 And then these guys are acting like I'm a teenager.
00:12:11 But what are the benefits you see of traveling?
00:12:13 Because I think that it's good to be traveling and doing this because I get more knowledge
00:12:16 and experience.
00:12:17 And I, instead of just sitting in my room all day long, I think that you're around an echo
00:12:21 chamber.
00:12:21 I like to experience new things.
00:12:23 Yeah.
00:12:23 The first thing is, of course, you become more social.
00:12:25 You get to know a lot of people.
00:12:26 You get, you make a lot of connections.
00:12:28 There's so many people out there in the world that are like amazing people.
00:12:31 Generally, just, they don't have to be the smartest people.
00:12:35 They're just, they're pure people.
00:12:37 They have great personalities.
00:12:38 You'll enjoy being around them, you know?
00:12:40 We were sitting down with two of the people sitting down.
00:12:42 We met them a couple of days ago, literally when we came, right?
00:12:44 We just met them, yeah, just met them two days ago, German guys.
00:12:47 And then we just sit down and talk.
00:12:48 They're Muslims, of course, but they're from Germany.
00:12:51 And we just sat down, we talk.
00:12:53 This is it.
00:12:53 You meet people.
00:12:54 You interact with other human beings.
00:12:56 You learn about different cultures.
00:12:58 It's not all what you see around you.
00:13:00 People living in the U.S. think the whole world is like what they see around them.
00:13:03 Or like these guys who think like some people in the Middle East, not everyone watches
00:13:08 or some people, people in the Middle East are still around goats and sheep and living in
00:13:11 a theater.
00:13:11 So they're like, this is the thing.
00:13:13 When you don't visit the Middle East, you don't see civilization over there or something.
00:13:17 So when you travel, you get to know people, right?
00:13:19 You get to know different civilizations.
00:13:20 So I think it's amazing.
00:13:22 What do you think you've learned so far?
00:13:23 What have you experienced in Bosnia?
00:13:24 Because it's your first time here.
00:13:25 It's our first time here as well.
00:13:26 You get to see, because there's no Sharia law here, but it's a majority Muslim place.
00:13:29 It's a lot of Christians as well.
00:13:30 And I think it's cool to see like how a Muslim country can operate in Europe because it's
00:13:36 still Europe.
00:13:36 It's still very obviously Europe. 0.78
00:13:38 We see a lot of Nakabis walking around. 0.95
00:13:39 You see like we went to, today was Jumaat, right?
00:13:42 Today was Jumaat, yeah.
00:13:43 Yeah, I forgot.
00:13:44 Like we did a lot today.
00:13:45 We did.
00:13:45 Yeah, it was a bit.
00:13:46 I forgot that that was today.
00:13:47 There was so much love at the mansion, especially from the youth, bro.
00:13:49 It was beautiful, bro.
00:13:50 Yeah.
00:13:50 And that's another thing too, that, you know, another benefit of traveling.
00:13:53 You get to meet all the people who love and support you, bro.
00:13:55 Yeah.
00:13:56 It's a big blessing.
00:13:56 It's been all love.
00:13:57 You know, it's funny because when you go on Twitter, I'm sure you've seen people like
00:14:00 wish death and say like they hate me and call me pedophile, stuff like this or whatever.
00:14:05 Like whatever. 0.93
00:14:06 They say, you don't see any of these people outside.
00:14:08 I have no security here.
00:14:09 Some people think one is my security.
00:14:10 Like, is this your security guard?
00:14:13 No, he's not.
00:14:13 He's a friend.
00:14:15 He just happens to be a giant.
00:14:16 You know what I mean?
00:14:17 And he was a security guard so he could operate as one.
00:14:19 Bodyguard, bodyguard.
00:14:20 Bodyguard, not a security guard.
00:14:21 But no, it's good to be around these brothers and be around this place.
00:14:25 I love it so far.
00:14:26 So I want to say a big shout out to Bosnia for the hospitality.
00:14:29 Everybody's been really nice and really great.
00:14:31 We've been taking – I see people in the chat just now from the – they're just like,
00:14:34 why were you scared?
00:14:35 We just took a picture with you.
00:14:36 I wasn't scared.
00:14:36 We had to go.
00:14:37 We just spedwalked through Bosnia at 2 a.m.
00:14:39 I was so excited for stream.
00:14:40 Muslim Lantern Muhammad Ali was telling me, you have to live in the moment.
00:14:44 You need to live in the moment more because you can tell that I'm always clip farming in
00:14:46 my head.
00:14:46 I'm always thinking about the next thing, the next stream.
00:14:49 But why do you think – earlier you said that.
00:14:50 Why do you think that I would regret not living in the moment?
00:14:53 Yeah.
00:14:53 First, you talked about Bosnia here, like the Sharia thing. 0.91
00:14:57 For instance, every country in the world today applies a part of the Islamic law, right?
00:15:02 Not fully 100% yet.
00:15:03 I don't see a country that is doing it fully 100%.
00:15:05 But including Bosnia here, we consider a Muslim country.
00:15:07 There's Muslim people around.
00:15:08 You pray your prayers.
00:15:09 Halal food is everywhere, right?
00:15:11 You don't have to ask questions.
00:15:12 So it's a great country.
00:15:13 I love it personally.
00:15:14 People are amazing.
00:15:15 I love the people here.
00:15:16 There is no doubt about that.
00:15:17 Like, I've been around the world, right?
00:15:19 Certain countries, people are like more rigid, less chill, etc.
00:15:23 It's not the same at all, right?
00:15:24 Now, while I was talking about living in the moment, I mean, you can be in the future too
00:15:28 much and the moments you're spending right now, later on, you regret not actually enjoying
00:15:33 the experience.
00:15:34 Meaning, you didn't go actually around to see the mountains, to see the area.
00:15:37 We went to the mountains today.
00:15:38 Yeah, I'm speaking hypothetically, right?
00:15:40 If you can be in the future and not do these things, right?
00:15:42 Not be in the moment.
00:15:43 But if you are doing these things, that's what I was saying.
00:15:45 If in the morning you guys did that, then that's good, right?
00:15:48 But there has to be a balance as well.
00:15:50 Yes, working is good.
00:15:51 But in the same time, also giving space to yourself so you can be your optimal self when
00:15:56 you do the work.
00:15:57 This is how I personally look at it.
00:15:58 You might disagree.
00:15:59 You might work otherwise.
00:16:00 But this is how I see it.
00:16:01 You chill a little bit.
00:16:02 But in the same time, you do work.
00:16:04 You do double the work.
00:16:05 You do more quality because you have chilled, right?
00:16:07 If you push yourself too much, it's not going to be a situation.
00:16:10 It's not going to be the same quality.
00:16:10 It's going to be more.
00:16:12 But quality over quantity.
00:16:13 That's how I'm saying.
00:16:14 Quality over quantity.
00:16:15 Yeah.
00:16:15 Okay.
00:16:16 I mean, even when you're on the ATVs, I was thinking like, how could I make this a cool
00:16:19 edit?
00:16:19 Like, I want to give the editors good footage for a montage, you know, to make the experience
00:16:24 look cool.
00:16:24 But that is my life.
00:16:27 Like, I think I do this game as well as I can.
00:16:30 I keep seeing people in the chat.
00:16:31 Can I bring this up already?
00:16:32 They're saying debate Sam Shamoon.
00:16:34 They have this idea that anyone's running from Sam Shamoon.
00:16:37 Can we just put this to rest?
00:16:40 Look, look, this is very, it's honestly a joke.
00:16:43 I don't know.
00:16:43 I want to start laughing when people mention that.
00:16:45 First, there is a reason why we don't give certain people attention.
00:16:48 Like, if you don't know who this individual is, just Google his name and you'll see clips
00:16:52 of him where he talks about his mental illness, where he behaves like he's just left a mental
00:16:57 hospital.
00:16:58 Why would anyone even give, entertain or give attention to that guy?
00:17:01 But the thing is this, we're not afraid of anyone.
00:17:03 If you want to come, you want to talk, let's do it.
00:17:05 Let's go.
00:17:06 Already, Sheikh Afman have sent him an invitation.
00:17:08 Other brothers, I believe Daniel, other brothers have also sent him clear invitations.
00:17:13 Okay, let's talk.
00:17:14 He's not talking.
00:17:14 They keep saying that we're running or that anybody's running.
00:17:17 We're running by sending him invitations.
00:17:18 So that's a new one, right?
00:17:19 Here's an invitation now, right?
00:17:20 We're sitting now.
00:17:21 You're like, come.
00:17:22 Yo.
00:17:22 Where are you?
00:17:23 Let's do it.
00:17:23 We're talking about the homeless guy that lives in his kitchen, right?
00:17:28 Oh, yeah, yeah, that guy.
00:17:29 He has a microwave.
00:17:30 The bald one, the bald one.
00:17:30 Oh, okay, gotcha.
00:17:31 He seems like a nice guy.
00:17:32 Yeah.
00:17:33 He seems like a...
00:17:34 So you'll do it?
00:17:35 They're saying cope.
00:17:36 Where is he?
00:17:37 Instead of saying cope, why don't they bring him now?
00:17:40 You want to do it tonight?
00:17:40 Yeah, let's do it.
00:17:41 If he's there, let's go.
00:17:42 If he's there, let's do it.
00:17:43 We do things in the moment, right?
00:17:44 If he's there, bring him.
00:17:46 Okay.
00:17:47 Yellow.
00:17:47 Perfect.
00:17:48 Confirm.
00:17:48 I guess I'm getting a little annoyed.
00:17:49 They keep saying that everyone's running.
00:17:51 The thing is, they are like cheerleaders, many of them, sadly.
00:17:54 And I'm saying this like with all the...
00:17:56 It's like a sport at this time.
00:17:57 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:17:57 WWE.
00:17:58 They think, you know what?
00:17:59 He is this, he is that.
00:18:00 But when he met Sheikh Othman and the clip is there, anyone can go watch.
00:18:03 Sheikh Othman kept telling him, come, come, come, let's talk, come.
00:18:05 And he kept running away and going somewhere else.
00:18:07 And the Sheikh Othman keeps telling him, come. 0.99
00:18:09 And he goes and he talks to some random people in the background.
00:18:12 You think like we are afraid to talk.
00:18:15 Look, when I live stream and I say this multiple times, he can come.
00:18:18 I live stream to people.
00:18:20 I go live and the link is in the chat.
00:18:22 Anyone can click on it and join.
00:18:23 Why doesn't he come?
00:18:24 I've been live streaming for years.
00:18:25 Where is he?
00:18:26 I'll set it up.
00:18:27 We're saying the same thing now.
00:18:28 Set it up there.
00:18:29 Let's do it.
00:18:29 Okay.
00:18:30 Yellow.
00:18:30 Perfect.
00:18:30 Why not?
00:18:31 Perfect.
00:18:32 But wait, you set it up.
00:18:33 If he doesn't do it, you tell your audience that he doesn't do it.
00:18:36 So they stop mentioning him.
00:18:38 We don't want more headache.
00:18:39 Halas, if you don't, yeah. 0.73
00:18:40 If he, this is here.
00:18:42 Well, I have no headache from it.
00:18:43 We're saying this openly, right?
00:18:46 So this is a challenge or invitation sent openly.
00:18:48 So where is he?
00:18:49 If he doesn't come, if he sees this clip, then he can reach out to Sneak on it.
00:18:53 He will see it.
00:18:53 Let's do it.
00:18:54 You probably, yeah.
00:18:55 Let's do it.
00:18:55 Perfect.
00:18:56 What do you think of Bosnia so far?
00:18:58 Honestly, I'm enjoying it.
00:18:59 So it's day one for me.
00:19:00 But I'm enjoying it.
00:19:01 I forgot to say one.
00:19:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:19:02 I just got here, bro.
00:19:03 That's how action-packed the day was.
00:19:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:19:05 It was a beautiful day.
00:19:06 It was a beautiful day.
00:19:06 I definitely enjoyed it.
00:19:07 You know, most of all, I enjoy spending time with the brothers, man.
00:19:09 You know, what can I say, bro?
00:19:10 It's a beautiful unity.
00:19:12 And it's always a good time spending time with the Muslims, bro.
00:19:14 You know what I mean?
00:19:14 Just, especially, it's a complete different vibe than L.A., bro.
00:19:18 There's times where I just need to get the hell out of L.A., you know?
00:19:21 And alhamdulillah, man.
00:19:22 I appreciate you for helping me escape, G.
00:19:25 100%, man.
00:19:26 Yes, sir.
00:19:26 Of course, you helped me as well.
00:19:27 Escape in the matrix, G.
00:19:27 But, like, once again, I wanted, people always look for brotherhood.
00:19:30 And I see a lot of the people that call me out and stuff like this.
00:19:33 They clearly have a lack of brotherhood.
00:19:34 And some people look for it in online groups or they look for it with friends that are,
00:19:39 you know, maybe they play Fortnite together, stuff like this, or they smoke weed together.
00:19:42 The brotherhood within Islam is unlike any other brotherhood I've seen.
00:19:45 People always ask me, what's the best thing that you've found about Islam since you reverted?
00:19:49 It has to be the worldwide brotherhood.
00:19:51 Everywhere I go, I have brothers that are on the same page, that believe in the same things,
00:19:54 that are on the same schedule, want to do the same things,
00:19:56 that have the same sense of humor, that have the same beliefs.
00:19:58 You know, they make sense.
00:19:59 You know, they're mostly not going to be insane.
00:20:01 Some of them, you know, not everyone's perfect, but you know, no matter where you go in the world,
00:20:07 you can find brothers that you're going to be on the same page with.
00:20:10 And that's the most refreshing and, you know, it clears up a lot of insanity that you have,
00:20:15 especially as a young man.
00:20:16 If you're looking for that guy, people ask me all the time, like, where do I find friends?
00:20:19 I'm lonely.
00:20:19 I'm working all day.
00:20:20 And my friends from school, like, they don't, you know, all they want to do is get high,
00:20:23 get drunk, go party.
00:20:24 If you want to have friends who are focused, who are on Dean, who make sense,
00:20:28 who believe in reality and are based in truth, join Islam.
00:20:32 Like, that's the best thing.
00:20:33 It's free.
00:20:33 Like, you don't need to pay a group or stuff like this.
00:20:36 Just become a Muslim and you'll find the best brotherhood that I think I've ever experienced.
00:20:41 Yeah, like, for instance, you know, today we went to Jum'a, right?
00:20:43 Obviously, we don't speak the language, you know, and obviously they were speaking in,
00:20:48 what is it, is it called Bosnian?
00:20:49 Yeah, Bosnian. 0.91
00:20:50 Yeah, in Bosnia.
00:20:51 All white people, by the way, in the Masjid.
00:20:52 Like, Bosnia is all white. 1.00
00:20:54 Yeah, they're all white, you know, Muslims. 1.00
00:20:56 And subhanAllah, after the love and the affection, everyone's praying shoulder to shoulder.
00:21:00 We never met any of these individuals, but yet there's so much love and unity.
00:21:04 All you got to do is pull up to your local Masjid, bro.
00:21:07 Any city that you're in, you'll find your brothers that you're looking for, bro.
00:21:10 Islam is an international language.
00:21:11 Even though the hukba was in Bosnian, I still understood it.
00:21:14 Does that make sense?
00:21:15 You can almost, like, feel it spiritually.
00:21:17 Yeah, you can.
00:21:17 I understood what he was saying.
00:21:18 Same thing, I went to a Masjid in Thailand with Sartor Shudar,
00:21:21 and the whole thing was in Thai.
00:21:23 And so I understood, you know, that's the best feeling ever.
00:21:26 But the community afterwards, like, it's so much love.
00:21:28 You know what I mean?
00:21:29 Alhamdulillah.
00:21:29 It's amazing.
00:21:30 Alhamdulillah.
00:21:30 It really is amazing.
00:21:31 Let's get into some of these.
00:21:32 I do want to respond to some people.
00:21:34 So there's been quite a bit of people responding to what we've been saying
00:21:37 and criticism, stuff like this.
00:21:39 So let's go cover some of the responses.
00:21:41 And then we're going to go call Arab, inshallah. 0.77
00:21:43 He wants to speak.
00:21:44 And he's a good friend of mine.
00:21:45 And you've never spoken to him, but Warner knows him pretty well,
00:21:48 so it's going to be a good call, inshallah.
00:21:50 All right.
00:21:50 Let's talk to – well, first, actually, let me respond to this one.
00:21:55 This is a tweet from your age.
00:21:58 I don't know if I can call him a friend, but I like the guy.
00:22:00 We go back and forth sometimes.
00:22:02 And so he's responding to a clip from yesterday where Muhammad Ajaab is talking
00:22:04 about shirk and how shirk is the worst sin, saying that shirk is worse 0.97
00:22:09 than being gay. 0.65
00:22:10 And Faiz, your age, says, but let me say some about Allah. 0.96
00:22:14 And now he's writing like a – like a – like a thug language, you know. 0.84
00:22:18 Let me say some about Allah.
00:22:20 And now I'm getting pictures of AK-47s in my DMs.
00:22:25 And then afterwards, he said – someone replied and said,
00:22:28 believing in any other God, but Allah is the worst sin one could commit 1.00
00:22:30 in our religion.
00:22:31 And then he replies, ain't Christians in some way still acceptable by God?
00:22:36 Ain't Muhammad, say that, peace upon him, or I'm misremembering.
00:22:39 If that's the case, how is that possible if Jesus is not God to y'all
00:22:42 or any other religion for that matter?
00:22:44 I know you're not post to mix logic and religion, but if that's the case,
00:22:48 I feel like you should be weary of things, of how things are being worded
00:22:52 on a platform where a lot of your followers are other religions 1.00
00:22:54 and keep that shit to yourself and your people. 0.99
00:22:57 So how would you respond to this? 1.00
00:22:59 I think the one that stood out to me the most was the fact that he said,
00:23:02 you're not post to mix logic and religion.
00:23:03 Okay, so the first thing he's saying things – he's speaking about Islam,
00:23:10 for instance.
00:23:10 So he says that his argument is, why are you speaking about Christianity?
00:23:14 You should only be speaking about Islam to your audience, etc.
00:23:17 But then he's speaking about Islam without knowledge in the same tweet.
00:23:19 Talking about questions in some way still acceptable by God.
00:23:23 He means in Islam, right?
00:23:24 So you are speaking about Islam, but he said that he's not sure,
00:23:28 or am I misremember or whoever it is?
00:23:30 So he's not sure.
00:23:31 Second thing, he said, yes, that you should be careful about the people, etc.
00:23:35 I'm not going to disagree with that.
00:23:36 It wasn't me who made the statement anyways.
00:23:38 But generally speaking, of course, you should be careful about statements you make
00:23:43 and what kind of audience are there, what would drive people up, what would not.
00:23:46 So there is a wisdom of how you speak.
00:23:48 But to say that we don't mix logic and religion, who gave humanity logic?
00:23:54 Who gave us the logic that we possess?
00:23:56 Doesn't the Bible that you believe in says, come, let us reason together?
00:24:01 How do you reason without logic?
00:24:02 It's literally the same thing, right?
00:24:05 How do you seek the truth, as the Bible says, without logic, without using reasoning?
00:24:09 So what would you say to, let's say, a Hindu worships a cow? 0.84
00:24:13 Okay, you don't use logic.
00:24:14 Why do you have an issue with someone who worships a tree?
00:24:16 Someone worships his own shoes, okay, what's the issue there?
00:24:20 If I tell you why shouldn't I worship my shoes, you start giving me logic.
00:24:24 You're not going to say put your logic at home.
00:24:26 Christians put the logic at home when it doesn't suit them. 0.99
00:24:29 Because, you know, they can't.
00:24:31 Not every Christian, by the way, to be clear.
00:24:33 But some Christians do this.
00:24:34 They put the logic at home because when you give them arguments that are rational, consistent,
00:24:39 they don't have answers to them.
00:24:40 So they just use the mystery card.
00:24:41 Oh, this is a mystery.
00:24:43 There's no logic.
00:24:43 Don't use logic.
00:24:44 Just believe.
00:24:45 Okay?
00:24:46 And I saw some people saying some funny things about what I mentioned before about why God
00:24:51 is God and the God we worship, etc.
00:24:53 They said you're limiting God.
00:24:54 We don't limit God.
00:24:55 That's what God is.
00:24:56 Limitless.
00:24:57 Yeah.
00:24:57 No.
00:24:58 What God is is the attributes that we were describing.
00:25:00 All-powerful, all-knowing, etc.
00:25:01 That's what God is.
00:25:02 We don't limit Him when we say anything other than that is not God.
00:25:05 That's not limiting Him.
00:25:06 You are limiting God by saying that God is not all-powerful.
00:25:09 By saying that God dies.
00:25:10 This is the limitation.
00:25:12 Because you are putting God down, literally.
00:25:14 You are lowering at the attributes of God.
00:25:16 This is how you limit God.
00:25:18 You don't limit God by saying that anything other than this perfect attributes is not
00:25:21 God.
00:25:22 Right?
00:25:23 So, yeah, that's what I'm going to say.
00:25:24 You cannot say that you put logic somewhere else or, you know.
00:25:27 And also, you cannot say keep it to yourself.
00:25:31 Like, we live in...
00:25:32 We don't live abstract.
00:25:33 Like, Muslims don't live in, you know, an abstract world and Christians are abstract. 1.00
00:25:36 We communicate.
00:25:37 We deal with one another.
00:25:38 We speak.
00:25:39 We care about one another.
00:25:41 Which means if something is true, I'll try to tell my friend about it, my brother about
00:25:44 it, my family about it.
00:25:46 Can I just say, okay, just keep it to yourself.
00:25:48 We go around every community by itself in an isolated location talking about something.
00:25:52 Or then we'll use the same argument.
00:25:53 Okay, why do you have an issue with any other religion then?
00:25:55 Just everyone can worship whoever it is.
00:25:57 But according to the Bible, if you don't believe Jesus died for your sins, you're not
00:25:59 going to have salvation.
00:26:00 Which means that you have to preach.
00:26:02 That's why you have preachers, Christian preachers in the street, 24-7 screaming on 0.97
00:26:05 microphone.
00:26:06 So why don't you tell the Christian community to keep it to themselves and their people? 1.00
00:26:11 And they talk about Prophet Muhammad as well.
00:26:12 They talk about Islam and all of that.
00:26:14 Well, is he right?
00:26:14 He's saying, ain't Christians in some way still acceptable by God?
00:26:17 Is that true?
00:26:17 Like, some that reject the Trinity.
00:26:19 Like, some...
00:26:20 Not every Christian in Islamic belief.
00:26:21 I will ask what you mean by acceptable by God.
00:26:23 Like, we don't believe Christians and Jews are like other religions, for instance.
00:26:28 We believe Ahl al-Kitab, the people of the book, have a specific stance.
00:26:31 That's why we can marry.
00:26:32 We can eat their food if they're slaughtered, if it's slaughtered food, and we can marry 0.69
00:26:36 their women, etc. 0.57
00:26:38 So they are closer to the Muslims than other communities.
00:26:41 But what do you mean by acceptable?
00:26:42 If you mean by acceptable that they will end up in paradise, that's not a Muslim belief. 0.99
00:26:46 Just like it's not a Christian belief, if you don't believe Jesus died for your sins,
00:26:49 and he's your Lord and Savior, according to the Christians today, or the majority of them,
00:26:53 you're not going to paradise.
00:26:54 You're not going to have salvation.
00:26:55 So also, it's not an Islamic belief that if someone remains a Christian and continues
00:26:59 living as a Christian, that he's going to get paradise.
00:27:01 That's not an Islamic belief.
00:27:02 But if you say, what does the word Christian mean?
00:27:05 If you mean the people who followed Jesus in the beginning, they were not believing he's
00:27:09 God and he's a son of God.
00:27:10 And you can do your own research on that.
00:27:12 You can look at the Ebunites and Nazarenes, the earliest groups, they believed he was a
00:27:15 prophet of God.
00:27:15 They didn't believe he was God.
00:27:17 They didn't believe he was a son of God, part of the Trinity, or any of that.
00:27:19 So if you say, if you consider these people Christians, these people are okay. 1.00
00:27:22 There's nothing, nothing is going to happen to them.
00:27:24 They followed Jesus, believed in the same God, which is what we call Islam.
00:27:27 But if a Christian today, for instance, who lives his life, he didn't get the message 1.00
00:27:30 of Islam, and he lives his life, he tries to do his best.
00:27:33 That person, we don't say, goes to hellfire.
00:27:35 We say he has a different test in the day of judgment.
00:27:37 If he doesn't get the message of Islam in this life, you have a separate test in the 0.58
00:27:41 day of judgment.
00:27:42 So Allah doesn't punish anyone who didn't get the message.
00:27:44 But if someone gets the message of Islam and he hears about Prophet Muhammad, he hears about
00:27:48 evidence for Islam and the truth.
00:27:49 And then if you buy acceptable, you're saying that they're saved.
00:27:52 No, we don't say that Christians are saved.
00:27:54 Right.
00:27:54 I get what he's saying, too.
00:27:55 He's saying, like, what's the point of saying something like this?
00:27:58 Like, why alienate?
00:27:59 Like, why divide people?
00:28:01 Because someone responded, doesn't every religion believe that religion, others are
00:28:04 going to hell?
00:28:05 And he's like, I'm not completely sure.
00:28:06 I don't think it's wise to go on a platform and say, if you don't believe in my God, you're 1.00
00:28:10 worse than gay niggas. 1.00
00:28:10 Like, he's saying, like, what's the point of saying this? 1.00
00:28:14 Like, what's the point?
00:28:15 Do you notice that this is all an emotional reaction?
00:28:18 Like, they're just exposing that this is, to me, I see it as an emotional religion.
00:28:22 I heard a recent statistic, right, that the main group of followers of Christianity within 0.74
00:28:28 America are black women. 1.00
00:28:31 Did you know that? 0.93
00:28:32 No.
00:28:32 Apparently, that's the statistic.
00:28:34 The number one demo of Christians in America is black women? 1.00
00:28:35 Of Christians in America are black women. 0.91
00:28:38 I don't know if it's single black women. 1.00
00:28:39 That would be bad.
00:28:41 But that's what I heard.
00:28:42 I heard that on the PPD podcast.
00:28:45 Period.
00:28:46 Yeah.
00:28:46 Yeah, yeah.
00:28:47 And it's another thing he brought up here, if you could bring up the tweet again, why would
00:28:51 God create a religion that doesn't make sense?
00:28:54 Isn't that like, he wouldn't create a religion that doesn't make sense.
00:28:58 Obviously, if he created your brain, he knows how your brain operates.
00:29:01 He wouldn't create a belief system about himself that you cannot fathom and understand and then
00:29:06 judge you based on that.
00:29:07 That's an unjust creator.
00:29:09 And we don't believe in an unjust creator.
00:29:12 Period.
00:29:14 That was a little sassy, bro.
00:29:16 I was just saying, I didn't know that that was the biggest one.
00:29:19 Hallelujah.
00:29:20 But what would you say to you?
00:29:22 Yorish, if you want to speak about Islam off camera, I think that'd be beneficial. 0.58
00:29:27 Yeah.
00:29:27 It seems like he's curious, because if he wants to talk about it, yeah, an open invitation
00:29:33 like we could talk.
00:29:33 Because, I mean, yeah, we'll speak off camera, I think.
00:29:37 Yeah, yeah.
00:29:37 It's an invitation to him, because rather than maybe not being sure about certain things,
00:29:41 because he's still being very respectful, I would say.
00:29:43 Yeah, he is.
00:29:44 He's understandable.
00:29:45 Yes, yes.
00:29:45 He's being...
00:29:46 And when he's unsure, he says that he's unsure.
00:29:48 So rather than being unsure, you can speak, of course.
00:29:50 Let's ask questions.
00:29:51 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:29:51 But what about this one he's saying, but let me say something about Allah, now I'm getting
00:29:54 pictures of AK-47s in my DMs.
00:29:55 So he's just proving that we're not coward.
00:29:58 It's not cowardly religion.
00:29:59 But the people DMing, it's a lot of, like, 12-year-old dudes in, like, Iraq and, well,
00:30:03 different, maybe some random guy is just sending DMs.
00:30:06 No, but still, he's talking about Muslims, not Islam, though.
00:30:08 Let's be clear.
00:30:09 It's not our reflection of Islam. 0.99
00:30:11 Yeah, he's talking about an emotional reaction of some people.
00:30:13 Is that justified, the people that do that?
00:30:14 No.
00:30:15 No?
00:30:16 No.
00:30:16 Okay.
00:30:17 So what's the justified response?
00:30:18 You're not going, especially, look, this is someone who's not Muslim, who lives in 1.00
00:30:21 a non-Muslim country, right? 0.98
00:30:23 You don't have a justification to threaten his life because he said something, right?
00:30:27 There's a lot of people who say things out of ignorance.
00:30:29 There's a lot of people who don't understand anything about Islam.
00:30:32 They have an image of Islam that is not Islam, right, from the media, wherever it is.
00:30:36 And that's what they hate.
00:30:37 And they think they hate Islam. 0.63
00:30:39 But what they hate is not really Islam.
00:30:41 So how can I be angry about someone who doesn't even know what Islam is and he hates a completely 0.69
00:30:44 different thing that is made up that the media told him about or whatever culture, community
00:30:50 told him about, right?
00:30:51 So we have to have understanding as Muslims.
00:30:55 And we look at the life of the Prophet ﷺ.
00:30:57 And he used to come and decurse the Prophet ﷺ. 0.98
00:31:00 He did not say, okay, let's tell his companions to do this.
00:31:03 And there's multiple instances where people have disrespected the Prophet ﷺ.
00:31:08 And his companions said, should we do something to him?
00:31:10 And the Prophet forbade him, said no.
00:31:12 There's an instance.
00:31:13 Let me give you this instance.
00:31:14 The instance of a man who went in the mosque and he peed in the mosque.
00:31:17 Huh?
00:31:19 Crazy, right? 0.95
00:31:19 He literally was pissing, peed in the mosque. 0.98
00:31:22 He didn't know this is a mosque, right? 0.91
00:31:24 Oh.
00:31:24 He went in.
00:31:25 He was drunk as well, yeah.
00:31:26 Yeah, he was peeing in the mosque.
00:31:28 The companions were going to, like, you know, going to kill him or something.
00:31:30 What are you doing in the mosque, right?
00:31:32 The Prophet said, wait, do not stop him while he is in the middle of that.
00:31:36 And after he is done, then purify the place, put water, right?
00:31:39 Wait, so they let him finish peeing?
00:31:40 They let him finish.
00:31:41 The Prophet said that.
00:31:42 Imagine.
00:31:43 And then they put water, they purified the place.
00:31:45 And then the Prophet brought him on the side and he said to him,
00:31:47 this is the house of God.
00:31:49 This is not a place where you do this.
00:31:51 Then that man said something very beautiful.
00:31:52 He said, may Allah have mercy upon me and Prophet Muhammad and no one else.
00:31:57 He's like, you know, he was the only one merciful with me.
00:31:59 Everyone else wanted to do something to him, right?
00:32:01 So there is this extent and level.
00:32:03 Look, that extent, like, look at what he's doing, right?
00:32:05 He's going to instantly have emotional reactions to individuals
00:32:09 who don't know their background,
00:32:10 who don't know their understanding of what they think about Islam, right?
00:32:12 Okay, chat, respectfully, I don't know who Jay Dayer is.
00:32:15 I have no idea who this is.
00:32:16 First, we'll set up the Sam Shamoon debate.
00:32:19 Inshallah, we'll get that done.
00:32:19 You can't pick and choose it.
00:32:20 You know the owners are going to bring someone.
00:32:22 Every time we accept it, and then you bring someone else.
00:32:26 I'm not being disrespectful.
00:32:27 I have no idea who Jay Dayer is.
00:32:28 I don't know.
00:32:30 So one at a time, okay?
00:32:31 And then we'll get it done, Inshallah, all right?
00:32:33 But how many, all of them in time, we'll get it done.
00:32:36 We have a stream plan for today.
00:32:37 I'm bringing on Arab, and I'm bringing on Young Don. 1.00
00:32:39 I'm bringing on two Christians today to make you guys happy.
00:32:41 Christians, okay? 0.99
00:32:42 And then, Inshallah, if this is worthwhile,
00:32:44 if he has a platform that's worth sharing to,
00:32:47 then we can get Jay Dayer on, okay?
00:32:48 Why don't you put a poll for them to choose one of the two?
00:32:51 Like, you've got to choose someone.
00:32:53 If you keep mentioning names in the beginning,
00:32:54 they were mentioning this guy, Sam.
00:32:56 Now they're mentioning him.
00:32:56 I know, we just said, we'll do this answer.
00:32:59 Next guy, next guy.
00:33:01 Challenger approaching.
00:33:02 Like, who are these people, bro?
00:33:03 Walla, who are these people?
00:33:04 Okay.
00:33:05 Also, you know, Muslim Andrew, he made a great point.
00:33:07 You know, that peace is the answer.
00:33:09 You know, violence doesn't solve the answer.
00:33:11 And honestly, I learned that for the first time myself.
00:33:13 You know, on the pier, I'm not going to lie,
00:33:15 I knocked out a few people on that pier.
00:33:16 You know what I mean?
00:33:17 But every single time that happened,
00:33:19 I realized that violence is not the answer.
00:33:21 And I actually learned that firsthand.
00:33:23 I thought violence was the answer.
00:33:26 I'm not going to lie.
00:33:26 I did think, you know, probably a year ago, my mind changed.
00:33:30 But I did think violence was the answer.
00:33:32 But now, seeing what happens with violence,
00:33:35 violence is not the answer, bro.
00:33:37 You know, like the Pops of the Psalm,
00:33:39 he was a great example, and he showed that.
00:33:41 You know, violence is not the answer, bro.
00:33:43 Right.
00:33:43 Okay, let's get into some more of these two.
00:33:45 There's a lot of people we need to respond to.
00:33:46 Well, I would like to see both of your opinions
00:33:50 on stuff like this.
00:33:51 So let's start with this one here.
00:33:54 I don't know if you're familiar with this guy.
00:33:57 Does he look familiar to you?
00:33:59 I don't know.
00:33:59 I heard the Ethan decline or something like that.
00:34:02 No, no, no.
00:34:02 Ethan Klein.
00:34:03 Oh, really?
00:34:04 No, no, not decline.
00:34:04 Okay, all right.
00:34:07 It's from the L3 podcast, right?
00:34:08 The L3.
00:34:09 Yes, correct.
00:34:10 The L3 podcast, right?
00:34:12 So there's three Ls there or something?
00:34:13 I think two Ls.
00:34:15 Just two.
00:34:16 Three Ls is a long of love speech.
00:34:17 Okay, okay.
00:34:18 Ethan decline says,
00:34:19 Nico is making a mockery of Islam and doesn't know if he'll debate him on time.
00:34:22 It says Ethan decline there. 0.87
00:34:24 Oh, my mistake.
00:34:25 I just, it just slips out.
00:34:27 I look at him, I think, like, declining person.
00:34:29 Okay.
00:34:30 He doesn't look very happy with life.
00:34:32 So let's see what he has to say.
00:34:33 All right.
00:34:34 Okay, let me take this.
00:34:35 His voice is declining.
00:34:38 All right.
00:34:38 Like, as far as his whole, like, new Islam arc is just, it's so phony because he's so not. 0.96
00:34:46 Oh, yeah.
00:34:47 No, no, no. 1.00
00:34:47 He's such a fucking phony bitch. 1.00
00:34:49 Yeah. 1.00
00:34:49 And, like, he's making a mockery of your religion.
00:34:52 Can you stop for a second?
00:34:54 The way he said phony B word, it sounded very, very...
00:34:57 Personal.
00:34:58 No, very feminine. 0.88
00:34:59 Can you put that again? 1.00
00:35:00 Kind of like a period, like, bitch. 1.00
00:35:02 Like a New York or California girl. 0.99
00:35:05 Yeah, yeah.
00:35:05 A little sassy. 0.83
00:35:06 But, I mean, I think he lives in a...
00:35:07 Yeah.
00:35:08 He's so not.
00:35:09 Oh, yeah, no, no. 1.00
00:35:09 He's such a fucking... 1.00
00:35:10 He's so... 1.00
00:35:11 Yeah, yeah.
00:35:12 I was like, you see how he said it? 1.00
00:35:14 I was like, this is, like, phony bitch. 1.00
00:35:16 Men don't speak that way when we come from... 1.00
00:35:18 He's making a mockery of the religion, in my opinion, the way he does it.
00:35:21 He's such a... 1.00
00:35:21 He's a fucking phony bitch liar. 1.00
00:35:23 Yeah, of course. 1.00
00:35:24 And he's a terrible person.
00:35:25 But, yeah, I don't...
00:35:26 I'm on the fence if it's worth, like, debating him or not.
00:35:29 He's...
00:35:30 You weren't on the fence about debating me when you challenged with your entire studio.
00:35:34 And then I accepted, and now you climb back on the fence just like Moist Critical.
00:35:38 You are the one who proposed for it.
00:35:40 I'd have no...
00:35:40 There's no benefit in speaking to you. 1.00
00:35:42 Moron. 1.00
00:35:43 He's not smarter than... 1.00
00:35:44 This feels like...
00:35:44 This feels like a good compromise.
00:35:47 Yeah.
00:35:48 With the way that it played out.
00:35:49 Let's see how...
00:35:50 It didn't have to be, like, explicitly that.
00:35:52 It was more spur of the moment.
00:35:53 And it was with the specific goal of exposing him to his friends that...
00:35:59 And the audience.
00:36:00 Because they are all... 1.00
00:36:00 An audience of just what a loser he is. 0.99
00:36:03 I think that... 1.00
00:36:03 And a hypocrite. 0.99
00:36:05 Okay. 1.00
00:36:05 So far, like, we just heard insults in a fruity voice.
00:36:09 What do you want to respond?
00:36:10 He literally made no points.
00:36:12 Where is the...
00:36:12 There was no points. 1.00
00:36:13 I'm a hypocrite liar. 0.99
00:36:14 That's it. 1.00
00:36:15 Yeah.
00:36:15 Phony.
00:36:15 All emotional stuff.
00:36:17 Yeah.
00:36:17 He's just literally...
00:36:19 And then he's saying, if you're insulting this Nico, why don't you have a discussion with
00:36:22 him there?
00:36:23 If he is that not intelligent, as you say, or whatever it is, why don't you then show the
00:36:27 wall?
00:36:27 It should be easy.
00:36:28 It should be an easy...
00:36:29 Yeah.
00:36:29 It should be easy.
00:36:30 Case discussion, right?
00:36:30 It should be done.
00:36:31 You should want...
00:36:32 If you really hate him this bad, you should want to expose him, like you say.
00:36:37 Yeah.
00:36:38 But the reality is, you're scared, bro.
00:36:39 Right.
00:36:40 What about the...
00:36:41 Who's the teammate?
00:36:42 I don't know.
00:36:42 One of the studio members.
00:36:43 He looks like he needs some sleep or something, or just...
00:36:45 But the guy looks like a raccoon.
00:36:47 I don't...
00:36:48 I...
00:36:48 Wallahi, I don't know his name, or something like this.
00:36:50 But what do you think about the rhetoric, like the new arc, this stuff, the phony Muslim 1.00
00:36:54 of this stuff?
00:36:55 Is there...
00:36:56 Is that even worth responding to?
00:36:57 Because I've been a Muslim for, subhanAllah, it's been a year and a half, something like
00:37:00 that, 18 months.
00:37:02 How do...
00:37:03 What should I do about this criticism?
00:37:05 Is there...
00:37:05 Is it even point...
00:37:06 Is there even beneficial response?
00:37:08 Yeah.
00:37:08 People got nothing against...
00:37:10 Nothing of substance against you to criticize you.
00:37:12 That's why I said, what do you want to even respond to?
00:37:14 That's why you always play this card.
00:37:15 Look, what are you benefiting from being a Muslim, right? 1.00
00:37:19 If those people who claim and pretend as if, like, you're pretending you are a Muslim, 0.56
00:37:24 they are pretending themselves that you're pretending to be a Muslim. 0.55
00:37:26 If this is the case, why are you benefiting?
00:37:28 Why are you doing these streams right now?
00:37:29 Why are you bringing Muslims? 1.00
00:37:30 Why did you do a Ramadan stream?
00:37:32 Why did you go to Mecca?
00:37:33 Why did you waste your time and do all of these things, right?
00:37:35 What's the point of doing all of that?
00:37:37 If...
00:37:37 Why would you be praying?
00:37:39 And we know you're praying, off camera.
00:37:41 You're praying with us.
00:37:42 How...
00:37:42 Why would you...
00:37:43 No, not just praying.
00:37:43 He would wake me up for prayer.
00:37:45 Like, what would you be doing any of that?
00:37:47 Like, if you are not a Muslim, right? 0.99
00:37:49 Anyone who makes the argument is a low IQ person. 0.98
00:37:52 A hundred percent.
00:37:53 Well, maybe I'm just waking up Warner for prayer and I'm praying and I'm going for Umrah,
00:37:56 all these things.
00:37:57 I'm doing Ramadan streams, charity for Gaza.
00:37:58 Maybe I'm doing that all because I'm being funded by Shoudi. 1.00
00:38:02 But wouldn't you take...
00:38:04 Do gambling and go to cake and do all of these things?
00:38:06 You'll make a lot more money than doing that.
00:38:09 But maybe it's just because I have no other content and the most entertaining content is
00:38:14 religious streams.
00:38:15 You know, when you go on a stream, everyone wants the most popular topic.
00:38:19 Everyone says...
00:38:20 Religion is exciting.
00:38:21 Yeah.
00:38:22 Emojis.
00:38:22 Emojis and emojis and stuff like this.
00:38:23 Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
00:38:24 I don't understand what the point of...
00:38:26 Like, what to even say at this point.
00:38:29 It just seems... 0.96
00:38:31 It's ridiculous. 0.92
00:38:32 Okay. 0.97
00:38:32 It's extreme.
00:38:33 I'm not going to lie. 0.70
00:38:34 It kind of upsets me with this whole fake Muslim stuff because it's like... 1.00
00:38:38 How many Umrahs have we done together?
00:38:41 Two?
00:38:41 Two and a half?
00:38:42 Yeah.
00:38:42 Like two Umrahs, bro.
00:38:43 Or maybe three.
00:38:44 Three Umrahs that we've done together, bro. 0.92
00:38:45 How dare they call you a fake Muslim? 0.93
00:38:47 That's like such a... 0.98
00:38:48 Honestly, I'm honestly insulted by it.
00:38:50 I'm honestly insulted by it.
00:38:52 Yeah, no, it is.
00:38:53 So there's no point in even...
00:38:54 But once again, we can do the debate.
00:38:56 In my opinion, as I said before, he's afraid of speaking about Zionism because he is a Zionist. 0.97
00:39:00 He went on a birthright trip to Israel.
00:39:03 He has his family, he's Israeli, these people.
00:39:04 So he doesn't want to talk about this because it's going to expose his double standards with
00:39:08 this issue.
00:39:09 His whole fan base, I'll say it again, Ethan Decline.
00:39:11 Your entire fan base wants Palestine to be free and you don't. 0.53
00:39:14 So you don't want me to point out a major flaw.
00:39:15 You'll just say ad hominem attacks. 0.99
00:39:17 I'm a terrible liar, person, phony, B-word, all this stuff. 0.86
00:39:20 But you don't want to talk about the real issues because you're afraid. 0.97
00:39:22 You thought I was going to talk about January 6th and COVID.
00:39:24 No, let's talk about the real most pressing issue.
00:39:27 It's what's happening in Palestine right now. 0.89
00:39:28 And if you don't want to talk about that, then just admit that you're a fraud.
00:39:31 Hop back on the fence and then talk about YouTube drama forever.
00:39:34 And let me be clear about something.
00:39:36 Sorry, I wanted to add.
00:39:38 Is any Muslim who says that Siniquo is not a genuine Muslim, whatever it is.
00:39:43 Look, we're 100% clear here.
00:39:45 Siniquo is not perfect, nor am I, nor is the owner, nor are you, the person, the Muslim watching 0.99
00:39:51 this.
00:39:51 So you see Siniquo doing something, whatever he does.
00:39:54 Something, let's say, is not necessarily Islamic.
00:39:56 It's not correct.
00:39:57 It's a sin.
00:39:58 Look at yourself first.
00:39:59 If you come to me and you are a sinless individual, then we'll say, okay, you're sinless, so you
00:40:04 get to lecture Siniquo and everyone else on what they're doing, what they're not doing.
00:40:08 If he is, okay, have you done anywhere close to the amount of work that Siniquo is doing,
00:40:15 not only done, that he's doing right now at the moment for Islam?
00:40:17 Now, if the answer is no, then you don't get to criticize.
00:40:21 Like, if you're also a sinner, okay, he's sinning, he has sins, I'm sinning, the one
00:40:25 that's sinning, everyone is sinning.
00:40:27 So let's be clear.
00:40:28 We're not saying, when we say he is, you cannot say that because someone commits a sin, he's
00:40:32 not a Muslim. 1.00
00:40:32 That is the belief of the Khawarij, right? 0.99
00:40:34 That is the extreme belief of an extreme group.
00:40:36 So let's be very, very clear on that, right?
00:40:38 Someone can commit sins, he's still a Muslim. 1.00
00:40:41 Andrew Tate, the last discussion we had, I've criticized his rhetoric.
00:40:45 It doesn't mean he's not a Muslim.
00:40:46 We still say he's a Muslim brother, and we opened a welcome dialogue with him, and
00:40:50 we talked to him, we defended him on people, accused him of incorrect things.
00:40:53 Nobody is perfect, but that doesn't mean you can say this person is not a Muslim.
00:40:56 Let's be clear on that. 0.98
00:40:57 But when it comes to Zionist rats like this who challenge to debate, I would just tell 1.00
00:41:02 you, if you need a client, run back into the tunnels. 0.99
00:41:05 Go back into the tunnels where you came from if you're afraid, and then never talk about
00:41:08 it again.
00:41:09 Or unless you want to have the conversation, because...
00:41:10 Let me say this, okay.
00:41:12 If the argument is that Siniquo is this and this and that, why don't you have a
00:41:16 discussion with me?
00:41:16 Why don't you have a discussion with the Muslim on Zionism?
00:41:18 Let's do it.
00:41:19 Anybody.
00:41:20 Doesn't have to be me.
00:41:21 Any, you pick and choose.
00:41:22 Whichever Muslim that you see is an acceptable Muslim in the Muslim community, or someone 1.00
00:41:27 who is, even, what's the name of that professor?
00:41:30 What's his name?
00:41:30 He's not a Muslim, who was on Pierce Morgan, I think.
00:41:34 I think maybe the people in the chat will say that.
00:41:36 Which one?
00:41:36 Have him on.
00:41:37 What was his name?
00:41:38 Frankenstein or something?
00:41:39 What was the name of that professor?
00:41:40 Fingelstein?
00:41:41 Yeah, I think so.
00:41:41 Have a discussion with them.
00:41:43 Doesn't have to be me.
00:41:44 Doesn't have to be Siniquo.
00:41:45 Have a discussion with someone who's very well known to speak against Zionism.
00:41:51 And he's respected by the people.
00:41:52 We respect that person, that professor.
00:41:54 Have him on your show.
00:41:55 Speak about Zionism. 0.92
00:41:56 If it's about Siniquo being all of this, you know, yuck, this and that, all of these,
00:42:01 you know, insults, then why don't you have this discussion about Zionism with someone
00:42:07 else.
00:42:08 And this would truly expose what he's trying to hide, right?
00:42:11 It's not about you.
00:42:11 If I'm a terrible person, I'm a liar, then do the debate with somebody else.
00:42:14 Yeah, exactly.
00:42:14 Do it with anyone.
00:42:15 Anyone who supports Palestine, let's do it.
00:42:17 He won't.
00:42:18 He won't.
00:42:18 That's actually a good point.
00:42:19 By the way, mods, don't ban people.
00:42:21 Unban Jokosa, I don't know who that mod is and remove that mod.
00:42:23 I don't know.
00:42:24 He wasn't saying anything bad.
00:42:25 Okay.
00:42:25 And let's go into this because after the stream with Muhammad Ajab yesterday, there was a big
00:42:29 reaction on the internet.
00:42:30 A lot of people responded, including this is my friend, Lucas Gage.
00:42:32 He's actually very vocal about Zionism on this topic.
00:42:35 Let's see what he had to say.
00:42:37 Frankenstein. 0.89
00:42:38 Disgrace. 1.00
00:42:39 He actually said it's better to be a homosexual than a Christian. 0.96
00:42:42 Why would Sneakle hang out with him? 0.59
00:42:43 That's a no.
00:42:44 Yeah, I saw that clip. 1.00
00:42:46 Absolutely stupid to say that. 1.00
00:42:48 Sounds like Trump. 1.00
00:42:49 You know, and this is the thing about Muslims. 1.00
00:42:51 See? 0.99
00:42:52 Now, I'm going to piss off some Muslims, but you Muslims need to keep other Muslims in check. 1.00
00:42:59 When Hijab said that, he's attacking all Christians. 0.97
00:43:05 Now, how are we supposed to have an alliance with Muslims? 1.00
00:43:08 Well, Lucas, Lucas, Lucas, are you a Christian now?
00:43:10 Like, I'm going to say this honestly.
00:43:12 I did not know that you were a Christian.
00:43:13 Last time I spoke to you, it seemed like you were open and you believed in God, but you
00:43:16 weren't.
00:43:16 Now, this is the first time that I heard that you're a Christian.
00:43:19 You look sad, Warren.
00:43:20 Are you okay?
00:43:21 No, no, I'm good, bro.
00:43:21 Oh, okay, okay.
00:43:22 No, I'm chilling, bro.
00:43:23 I'm chilling.
00:43:23 Did anyone else see that?
00:43:24 This is my resting bee face.
00:43:25 No, no, no, no.
00:43:26 Muscle Lantern has to ignore always.
00:43:28 Lantern's always smiling.
00:43:29 Like, why is he so happy?
00:43:30 And you look sad.
00:43:31 But yeah, okay, let's go back to that.
00:43:33 No, on the bad side, he's the good side.
00:43:35 You know what I mean?
00:43:36 We're the two angels on the side, you know?
00:43:37 He's locked in, you know?
00:43:39 He's locked in.
00:43:40 He's locked in.
00:43:41 They're using the lingo over here.
00:43:42 We're walking over here.
00:43:43 Muscle Lantern was like, that's an L take.
00:43:45 I'm like, where did you?
00:43:47 Only around you guys.
00:43:48 You know what I mean?
00:43:48 He's using your lingo.
00:43:49 That's it.
00:43:49 He was just like, he's glazing.
00:43:51 I'm like, where did you learn? 1.00
00:43:52 They're going to shit on Christians and say it's better to fuck a man than worship Jesus 1.00
00:43:59 Christ as God. 1.00
00:44:02 There's no benefit of that.
00:44:04 Now, of course, I have my critiques of religion, you know?
00:44:07 I have this heretical, Marcionite view of the Old Testament.
00:44:13 Yeah, but that's an opinion. 1.00
00:44:14 But I'm not saying that, okay, Christians are garbage and you're better to being gay 1.00
00:44:19 or Jesus is gay. 1.00
00:44:20 I'm not attacking you. 0.89
00:44:21 No one said that.
00:44:22 No one said that.
00:44:23 I'm saying from my worldview, externally, hey, this makes more sense to me.
00:44:27 Maybe this is the case.
00:44:28 It doesn't attack Jesus.
00:44:29 In fact, the Marcionite version doesn't make Jesus less divine or unholy.
00:44:36 In fact, he said...
00:44:36 What's a Marcionite? 0.80
00:44:37 What is that?
00:44:38 I have no idea.
00:44:39 That's the first time I ever heard that.
00:44:40 Yeah, first time I heard that too.
00:44:41 Okay, okay.
00:44:42 Does anyone in this chat know?
00:44:43 He's not of Yahweh.
00:44:44 He's actually from another being that is the real God. 1.00
00:44:47 Whereas Muhammad Hijab attacks Christians to say they're basically worse than faggots. 0.99
00:44:53 How does that help the Christian-Muslim alliance? 1.00
00:44:56 I love this guy, man.
00:44:57 It doesn't.
00:44:58 And therefore, now you know someone like Muhammad Hijab is an enemy and you cannot be aligned 0.99
00:45:05 with him.
00:45:06 And why would Sneeko hang out with him?
00:45:07 I don't think Sneeko knew he would say that.
00:45:09 I didn't.
00:45:10 I didn't know that.
00:45:11 What he said was true. 0.65
00:45:12 What did he do say?
00:45:13 It was accurate. 0.89
00:45:13 Is it Sneeko's fault that he said it?
00:45:15 I don't know.
00:45:16 Like, once again, I would not say that.
00:45:18 Like, I think it's important to have unity right now.
00:45:20 Like, I see it's important to have alliances with these people when it comes to the topic
00:45:23 of Zionism.
00:45:23 I wouldn't say that. 0.95
00:45:24 But Islamically, shirk is the worst sin. 1.00
00:45:26 So what he said is...
00:45:27 You could say that about anything. 1.00
00:45:28 Not just faggots or whatever. 1.00
00:45:29 You could say that about any sin. 1.00
00:45:31 Shirk is by far the worst.
00:45:32 Sneeko did say, you know, it is kind of bad to worship a man as God.
00:45:37 That's shirk. 0.92
00:45:38 Okay, whatever.
00:45:38 But like I said, I'm not here to tell you who to be friends with.
00:45:42 All I know is when a Muslim crosses the line, they're no longer an ally. 0.98
00:45:48 When a Muslim is supporting the same thing Soros wants, not an ally. 0.99
00:45:53 When a Muslim says we're going to turn Europe into a caliphate enemy. 0.99
00:45:57 When a Muslim says you guys deserve to be colonized enemy. 0.99
00:46:01 Whether it's a Muslim or another person. 0.99
00:46:03 He doesn't say that either.
00:46:04 Okay, let's respond.
00:46:06 Yeah, okay. 0.97
00:46:06 The first thing I want to say is when you say when Muslims cross the line, you're an enemy.
00:46:11 That kind of gives this idea that you're superior somehow and you're trying to get your...
00:46:15 With all the respect to you, right?
00:46:16 I don't know who this individual is.
00:46:18 But we're not waiting for your approval.
00:46:21 With all the respect to you.
00:46:22 Of course, if there is a...
00:46:24 We can ally on certain things that are generally beneficial.
00:46:27 We're not against that essentially, right?
00:46:29 But to kind of say if we cross the line, you're an enemy.
00:46:32 Like we're not expecting approval from anyone, right?
00:46:35 We're not bowing down to any individual, right?
00:46:37 Right, right, right.
00:46:37 So that's the first most important thing to say. 0.89
00:46:39 The second thing I want to say is Muslims keep a Muslim in check. 1.00
00:46:42 If we want to keep hijab in check or anyone in general, if they say something wrong, we 0.98
00:46:47 would do that.
00:46:47 Essentially, that statement is not incorrect.
00:46:50 I'm going to explain why it's not incorrect.
00:46:52 So why would we check someone on someone who said something that is not necessarily incorrect?
00:46:56 We could say, okay, that maybe is not the best wording to put to a Christian audience.
00:47:00 You can make these arguments, right?
00:47:01 And say that you have to keep in mind.
00:47:03 Because we have an Islamic tradition on that.
00:47:05 Like companions of the Prophet saying that you have to keep in mind the people that are
00:47:09 listening to.
00:47:09 I don't think Muhammad Ajab knew that I had a majority Christian audience.
00:47:12 I don't think so.
00:47:13 I don't know.
00:47:14 Let's see right now what the majority is.
00:47:16 Because even now we're seeing arguments.
00:47:18 Put Muslim and Christian. 0.95
00:47:19 Or just M or C.
00:47:20 I want to see what the consensus is.
00:47:22 I don't think he knew that.
00:47:23 Yeah.
00:47:23 Especially after we've done so many streams during Ramadan.
00:47:25 I think he assumed that this...
00:47:26 And look, we would always assume good about our Muslim brother. 0.68
00:47:29 That's the thing.
00:47:29 We would assume good about our Muslim brother or whoever he is. 0.81
00:47:32 But we're saying even if you want to make that hypothetical case.
00:47:34 We're not necessarily making it, right?
00:47:35 That's not something to keep someone in check, right?
00:47:38 Should he maybe put it in a different way?
00:47:40 You can make arguments.
00:47:41 Should he have explained, expounded?
00:47:43 I don't know if that happened in our stream or not.
00:47:44 On what he meant by that necessarily, perhaps.
00:47:47 But to say that we keep him in check when he didn't say something wrong.
00:47:50 Oh, we keep everyone in check when they say something wrong.
00:47:52 It looks majority Christian to me.
00:47:54 Yeah, yeah.
00:47:54 It surprised me every time.
00:47:56 And when we...
00:47:57 Last stream, we were talking about under state.
00:47:58 We consider him a Muslim.
00:47:59 But we were talking about this idea of keeping someone in check.
00:48:02 Your argument that Muslims do not keep people in check.
00:48:05 That was the beginning of what he said.
00:48:07 That's incorrect.
00:48:08 Completely incorrect.
00:48:09 And put a J for Jew. 0.92
00:48:10 Yeah.
00:48:11 I don't want to include everyone.
00:48:12 Yeah, and what...
00:48:13 I put the cow emoji for Hindu. 1.00
00:48:14 Okay.
00:48:14 I'm sorry.
00:48:15 Why is it then that someone can make the argument or say that statement that worshiping, associating
00:48:22 with God, whoever it is you're associating, whether you're a Hindu, whether you're a Jew,
00:48:26 whether you're...
00:48:26 Whatever it is that you associate with God is worse than a sin that you commit against
00:48:30 another human being.
00:48:31 It's because this is directly against the creator.
00:48:34 Now, imagine this.
00:48:35 You're about to die. 0.65
00:48:37 Yeah. 0.76
00:48:37 You're in the hospital. 0.63
00:48:38 You're about to die.
00:48:38 And someone comes.
00:48:39 And you're missing a limb.
00:48:41 And he gives you that limb.
00:48:42 And you survive.
00:48:43 Now, when you wake up, you're about to die.
00:48:45 Your life is going to go.
00:48:46 Your whole life is going.
00:48:49 You start thanking someone else.
00:48:51 Let's say I gave you my kidney or give you some body or limb.
00:48:54 You start thanking the owner.
00:48:56 And you don't even look at me.
00:48:58 You don't even acknowledge my existence.
00:48:59 You pretend I'm not even there.
00:49:01 That is way worse than anything else because you're given the rights even though I gave
00:49:06 you everything, right?
00:49:06 In that sense, I allowed you to continue life in a way by being a means by giving you
00:49:12 that thing, right?
00:49:13 You went to someone else and you gave them all of that gratitude other than me.
00:49:17 So, there is nothing.
00:49:18 There is no more transgression that you could do. 0.92
00:49:20 Other sins, for example, whether it's being gay or killing someone, whatever it is, it 0.66
00:49:24 is a sin against another human.
00:49:26 It is not taking all the rights of the creator that created you and the human and that allows
00:49:31 you to live and allows everyone to exist and taking his rights and giving it to someone
00:49:36 else and pretending as if he's not even there.
00:49:39 Worshipping other than him and pretending as if the creator is not even in existence there,
00:49:43 right?
00:49:43 So, that's why we would say from that sense that these sins against the sin and another
00:49:48 against another human being is not equal in any way, completely ignoring God.
00:49:52 The sins against God.
00:49:52 Yes.
00:49:53 Not only just sins against God, but completely ignoring God's existence and giving his rights 0.99
00:49:56 to someone else.
00:49:57 And Christians believe the same thing on the inverse. 0.94
00:49:58 He's saying like, you're an enemy of us.
00:49:59 Well, if you believe in Christianity, you believe in the same exact logic.
00:50:03 That's the part that doesn't make sense.
00:50:04 They're acting like this is a crazy statement.
00:50:06 If you are a Christian that's following the Bible, you believe that rejecting Jesus is
00:50:10 the worst sin. 0.95
00:50:11 And then by extension, being gay is better than rejecting Jesus. 0.90
00:50:16 And since when were they our allies? 0.99
00:50:18 You're our enemy.
00:50:18 What have you done to help us?
00:50:20 It comes.
00:50:21 Well, this is where the love speech thing comes in and everything.
00:50:23 It's like allies in terms of like what's happening.
00:50:25 No, but he said.
00:50:27 We're united in terms of like he wants to.
00:50:28 He's always said he's very vocal about freeing Palestine, which I respect.
00:50:31 And I think that's important right now.
00:50:32 That's commendable for sure.
00:50:33 It's very commendable.
00:50:34 And I think like that's what he's talking about.
00:50:36 It's like an us versus them thing. 0.89
00:50:37 I'm not going to lie.
00:50:38 There are people like like what's his name?
00:50:40 The fighter on Twitter is always there that you're with him once as well.
00:50:45 Jake Shields.
00:50:46 Shout out to Jake Shields.
00:50:47 So, yeah, this is a person that I personally respect.
00:50:49 He's very respectful.
00:50:51 He's always talking about Palestine.
00:50:53 He does not sugarcoat things like other people try to support regimes like Assad who killed
00:50:58 many Muslims.
00:50:58 He doesn't do these things.
00:51:00 He's very clear.
00:51:00 He does his own research.
00:51:02 He speaks the truth about Muslims.
00:51:03 Muslims, et cetera.
00:51:04 This is a person I personally respect, right?
00:51:06 And I don't know the individual.
00:51:07 If he's doing the same thing, that's commendable.
00:51:09 May Allah bless him.
00:51:09 So, as I said, we can have this kind of alliances on certain things on issues that we agree with.
00:51:15 We're not against that.
00:51:16 This will be 100% clear.
00:51:17 We're not trying to fight against Christians 24-7.
00:51:20 But Werner is also making a good point.
00:51:23 There's a lot of Christians that are not our friends.
00:51:25 Like, if you look at the chat, some, many people in the chat, first thing is, oh, you guys are lying.
00:51:30 You bring this person to be a 24-7 cursing and making insults.
00:51:34 Okay, you gotta be careful.
00:51:35 Look, you're telling us being an ally.
00:51:37 And the second thing, as I said, this is a superiority kind of assumption that I gotta get your approval to be your ally.
00:51:43 Oh, you're crossing the line.
00:51:44 This goes, look, respect is a two-way street.
00:51:47 You give him respect, I give you respect.
00:51:49 I respect Jake because of what he's doing.
00:51:52 Right?
00:51:52 I give him respect back because I see he's being respectful.
00:51:55 So, this is how it should be.
00:51:56 And also, you have to keep in mind who you're talking to.
00:51:58 We are the Muslims.
00:52:00 This world was created for us.
00:52:03 For us.
00:52:04 Right? 1.00
00:52:04 If there's no Muslim left on earth, the world will be destroyed. 1.00
00:52:07 This world only exists today because there's believers on earth that worship Allah. 0.98
00:52:12 Once there's no human on earth worshiping Allah, that's when the Day of Judgment is going to come. 0.88
00:52:17 Right?
00:52:17 Yeah, so, of course, look, God has created us in this life as a test.
00:52:22 If nobody is worshiping the Creator anymore, the Day of Judgment will commence where there is no believers.
00:52:28 Not only no believers, no one has an atom of love for the Creator in his heart.
00:52:32 There's no atom of belief.
00:52:34 Nothing.
00:52:34 Zero.
00:52:35 Because a wind will come and will take the souls of anyone who has an atom of faith in his heart.
00:52:39 And then the Day of Judgment will commence on the worst of the creation.
00:52:42 Right?
00:52:43 It will definitely...
00:52:43 Yeah, that punishment is only for the disbelievers. 1.00
00:52:45 Yes, yes, yes.
00:52:46 But we don't mean that as well.
00:52:48 You're a bit like, you know, strong with that.
00:52:50 But that's fine.
00:52:51 It's okay.
00:52:52 We don't want people to misunderstand that.
00:52:54 That doesn't mean we're saying that Christians are not allowed to exist or no one else is allowed to exist.
00:52:59 That's also a part of the Islamic teachings.
00:53:01 Like Prophet Muhammad SAW existed in a community in which there were Jews and Christians.
00:53:05 You know, I talk about existing in harmony and peace with other communities.
00:53:09 That happened at the time of the Prophet SAW. 0.89
00:53:11 It happened in Spain.
00:53:12 It happened in many parts in Islamic history.
00:53:15 We're not against co-existing and living, right?
00:53:17 With other people, other individuals.
00:53:19 But he's talking more from a divine kind of way.
00:53:22 From a divine sense, from a creator sense.
00:53:25 The creator, of course, if there is no one worshiping the creator or believes in the creator on earth,
00:53:29 there's no point of allowing these people to exist.
00:53:31 And we are the biggest, like, warriors against evil.
00:53:36 Obviously, the world has proven that, unfortunately, Christians, they don't stand up against evil.
00:53:41 Who stands up against evil?
00:53:43 We do.
00:53:44 Like, you know, when you need somebody to help you, who's going to be the one to fight the evil in the world?
00:53:48 It's us.
00:53:49 We're the ones who are predominantly fighting the evil of the world.
00:53:53 We're the ones who are going against the devil.
00:53:55 Yeah.
00:53:55 We're the number one enemy of the devil.
00:53:57 The Christian nations are not really doing anything to stop it. 0.99
00:53:59 They're not doing nothing, bro.
00:54:00 They're aligning with Israel more than anybody else.
00:54:03 That is factually true.
00:54:04 So who's online with the side of light, bro?
00:54:06 It's us, bro.
00:54:07 You got to realize who's on the path of truth.
00:54:11 Okay, let's get into some more of these.
00:54:13 That was good.
00:54:15 So I've been, these are some, you would say, normie streamers.
00:54:18 I'm not sure if you know these people.
00:54:19 I didn't get to watch this yet, but first, let's, these people are called FaZe.
00:54:24 And they're, I would say, they're very big on Twitch right now.
00:54:28 Normie audience.
00:54:28 And, uh, let's, let's see what they had to say.
00:54:31 So, uh, okay.
00:54:32 Let's just play.
00:54:34 I don't know the audience at all.
00:54:35 I'm going to be honest.
00:54:37 I'm straight.
00:54:37 I'm making fun of his voice.
00:54:40 Huh?
00:54:40 By the way, gooning stuff. 0.99
00:54:42 It means like masturbation. 0.98
00:54:44 Okay. 0.95
00:54:44 That's what, that's the.
00:54:46 When did that word come up?
00:54:47 Gooning?
00:54:48 I've never heard of that word.
00:54:50 I know.
00:54:50 It's like a cool way.
00:54:51 It sounds cool. 0.65
00:54:51 It makes it, it makes masturbation sound like a cool thing. 0.97
00:54:53 I'm gooning. 0.98
00:54:54 Gooning.
00:54:54 I thought like doing some gangster stuff.
00:54:56 Right?
00:54:56 That's like, yeah, we gooning.
00:54:57 You know what I'm saying?
00:54:58 We, yeah.
00:54:59 I don't, don't clip that.
00:55:00 Okay.
00:55:00 But that's what that means.
00:55:01 You know, this is the thing about, about evil things.
00:55:03 They always change names.
00:55:04 Like spiritual drinks instead of, they change names.
00:55:07 To make it sound cool.
00:55:07 Yeah.
00:55:08 Exactly.
00:55:08 So they can make it more appealing.
00:55:09 That's the trick. 0.99
00:55:10 First it was prostitute. 1.00
00:55:11 And now it's sex worker. 1.00
00:55:12 Exactly. 0.80
00:55:12 Yeah.
00:55:12 Yeah.
00:55:12 Yeah.
00:55:13 Yeah.
00:55:13 They sugarcoat it.
00:55:13 You mean model actually.
00:55:14 OF model.
00:55:15 Yeah.
00:55:15 Yeah.
00:55:15 Yeah.
00:55:16 Yeah.
00:55:16 Yeah.
00:55:16 Which is really crazy the way.
00:55:19 Okay.
00:55:19 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what?
00:55:22 Sneeko's gooning to me?
00:55:23 Who's his phase content?
00:55:25 I'mma be honest.
00:55:26 I'm straight goon.
00:55:27 Oh, he said this is phase content.
00:55:29 Who's his phase content?
00:55:31 I'mma be honest.
00:55:32 Oh, he got sad real quick.
00:55:33 Yeah.
00:55:34 I like her, man.
00:55:35 He's a funny guy. 1.00
00:55:36 I'm gooning and beating off and jerking off. 1.00
00:55:39 Somebody smell like goon. 1.00
00:55:42 They're funny.
00:55:43 They're funny.
00:55:44 They can do better than that, though, bro.
00:55:45 I want them to do better.
00:55:45 Lacey, do better. 1.00
00:55:47 Please. 0.99
00:55:47 Not for me, for the fucking, for the kids, for the kids, for my 13-year-old cousin that 0.99
00:55:55 watches his dreams, because they, oh, he's doing it. 0.99
00:55:57 I'm going to do it.
00:55:58 It was his phase.
00:55:59 He's picking his nose.
00:56:02 Well, I mean, my point is, like, let's not make gooning a cool thing.
00:56:05 Like, let's call it what it is. 0.99
00:56:06 It's masturbation. 0.99
00:56:08 It's, you know, it's you alone with, it's, it's, it's gross. 0.99
00:56:11 Gooning makes, like, you said it perfectly. 0.99
00:56:13 It sounds like you mob it up.
00:56:14 Like, yo, we outside gooning.
00:56:15 Yeah, it sounds like some G stuff, you know what I mean?
00:56:16 It really does.
00:56:17 It really does.
00:56:18 We're gooned up, like, in the words.
00:56:20 Honestly, bro, I don't blame him, bro.
00:56:21 He's a young kid, lacks guidance, America.
00:56:24 Bro, which young kid is guided in America, bro?
00:56:27 That's, it's very hard to find a young individual that's on the right path.
00:56:31 Right.
00:56:31 And we have so much influence now.
00:56:32 Streamers are controlling the minds of the youth more than the media, more than TV shows,
00:56:36 more than anything.
00:56:37 It's, it's, the streamers are influencing.
00:56:39 Regardless of whether or not you guys like that or think it's real, it is.
00:56:42 Streamers have the most influence on the, the minds of American youth.
00:56:45 Yeah, I'm gonna be able to guide this, brother, bro.
00:56:47 I mean, I don't really understand what he's, like, would you rather, like, I don't, I don't,
00:56:52 we're just joking around, like, with each other.
00:56:56 I don't understand what the issue is.
00:56:57 He's like, is, is he the fun police, bro?
00:56:59 Sneeko calls out FaZe for having Sophie Rain on stream encouraging young kids to goon.
00:57:04 Bro, the stream last night was so normal. 0.99
00:57:06 He's acting like she was, like, standing up, shaking ass, like, butt-ass naked, showing 1.00
00:57:11 her titties and shit. 1.00
00:57:12 It was literally a normal stream. 1.00
00:57:13 Like, there was no sexual, like, she didn't do anything sexual on stream at all. 1.00
00:57:17 Like, would you rather us be fucking promoting screaming somebody smells like shit and, 1.00
00:57:22 and brain rot and jokes, or would you rather us fucking be promoting violence and killing 1.00
00:57:28 people and shit? 1.00
00:57:29 Like, it's just, like, joking around. 0.99
00:57:31 It's not that serious, bro.
00:57:33 Doesn't he literally do content with the dude who's been caught having sex with minors multiple
00:57:38 times?
00:57:38 Doesn't he literally talk to Zerka?
00:57:40 I'd rather promote saying somebody smells like goon than promote talking, than promote 1.00
00:57:45 doing streams with somebody who has sex with underage girls, bro. 0.99
00:57:48 Okay, that's not true, but what do you, how do you think we can balance that?
00:57:51 Because it's an important question. 0.75
00:57:53 I'm not trying to be Haram police, but when they try to normalize masturbation by calling 1.00
00:57:56 it something cool, and they, this stuff, it's like, it's very clearly, because he was sitting 0.93
00:58:00 next to an online prostitute, and he's like, the first thing he said to the girl was, I'm 1.00
00:58:05 not going to lie, I jerk off to you. 1.00
00:58:07 Face to face, speak to this girl for the first time. 0.99
00:58:09 Sorry for, like, looking your eyes.
00:58:12 You said the action and everything, bro.
00:58:14 You made that very weird by saying it.
00:58:16 You shouldn't have been saying that.
00:58:16 I know, I know, but you're like, your face is just so, like, you have so, I don't
00:58:19 know.
00:58:20 He has lucked in.
00:58:20 When I saw you in the airport in Istanbul, I look at your face, and I'm like, oh, he
00:58:24 knows that I'm sitting.
00:58:25 Like, he knows that I'm sitting.
00:58:26 Because he has such a noor face, you know, Chad, do you see, like, you know, he, you
00:58:30 can look at him and tell he doesn't miss a prayer.
00:58:32 Like, you know?
00:58:33 MashaAllah.
00:58:34 MashaAllah.
00:58:35 Yeah, so I don't want to even say these words around you, but how do you think people
00:58:38 like us can balance the entertainment and also promoting something that's good?
00:58:42 Because we do control so much.
00:58:43 No, I think Warner made that, made a very interesting point.
00:58:45 He said he doesn't blame him because he's in that community, society, he's young, whatever
00:58:48 it is.
00:58:48 He says this is normal.
00:58:50 This is what he started with, right?
00:58:51 He actually believes there's no issues in what he's doing.
00:58:54 Like, the thing is, you are making a point about why what he's doing is bad.
00:58:58 But in his mind, this is just like, this is what people do, right?
00:59:00 He doesn't know better.
00:59:01 Yeah, yeah, in my community, that's what people do.
00:59:03 So when it comes to people like this, you actually got to explain to them, right?
00:59:06 The detrimental effects of why, how can masturbation, how can it destroy a kid's life, right?
00:59:13 Where he's like 24-7 in his house doing that, doesn't meet any people in his life, doesn't
00:59:18 become social, loses his testosterone, destroys his attraction to the opposite gender, makes
00:59:24 him awkward and creepy, all of these things, right?
00:59:26 You got to explain to him these kind of detrimental effects.
00:59:28 For instance, he also says that we're not doing anything, she was not doing any sexual
00:59:34 things, right?
00:59:34 Right.
00:59:34 You just said she's doing that as a professional.
00:59:37 So, yeah.
00:59:38 It's a profession.
00:59:38 So, literally, just bringing her on is enough to get these guys to go and if she's not showing
00:59:45 anything, so now they want to see, right?
00:59:47 So, now they want to go and subscribe, literally, they want to go and subscribe.
00:59:50 And you start by saying, I did that, so the first thing you do, you think, okay, he did
00:59:53 it, the person we look up to is doing it, why shouldn't we do it too?
00:59:58 Yeah.
00:59:58 There's nothing wrong with doing it.
01:00:00 So, it's not only he believes it's normal, but it's also more normalization of that.
01:00:04 And then he says, would you rather us doing bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, why can't you give
01:00:07 an example of something good?
01:00:09 Right.
01:00:09 Why is there murder?
01:00:10 Why is there no example of maybe doing something beneficial, maybe doing something that
01:00:15 beneficial?
01:00:15 And they do.
01:00:16 I'm not trying to make it seem like a bad person.
01:00:17 They went to Japan.
01:00:18 They do funny stuff.
01:00:19 But stuff like that, I don't like to, I don't want to see the normalization of porn.
01:00:24 Yeah, yeah.
01:00:24 But you see, but now you're in a position where you could educate, because you obviously
01:00:29 see he's a young individual.
01:00:31 Have mercy on him.
01:00:31 How old is he?
01:00:32 He looks young, or he looks 18, 17, or something.
01:00:35 I don't know, he's got to be, he's got to be like 20, I think he's 22, something like
01:00:38 that.
01:00:38 Yeah, he looks young.
01:00:39 Yeah, he's still young, he looks young, bro.
01:00:40 But like, you're in a position where you could educate, because you're around brothers who
01:00:46 obviously put you on, you know what I'm saying?
01:00:48 So now you got to do that with the young generation, bro, and you have that capability.
01:00:51 Yeah.
01:00:52 Okay.
01:00:53 And do it in a respectful way.
01:00:54 Yeah, in a merciful way, bro.
01:00:56 You want them to be guided.
01:00:58 You want what's best for them.
01:01:00 Come at them with the big brother attitude, you know what I'm saying?
01:01:02 So the other one in phase, Black Boy Max responded to this, they're in the same group.
01:01:07 I don't know what he's talking about.
01:01:09 Lacey Impressin'? 1.00
01:01:10 To be honest, I'm straight gooning to your shit. 0.99
01:01:13 I don't know if you've ever seen these people, but they're some of the most popular streamers 0.99
01:01:16 of the youth right now.
01:01:17 These two universities, no, I don't see them.
01:01:19 You did nothing?
01:01:20 I've seen this individual. 1.00
01:01:21 Ego shit, I'm gooning to you. 1.00
01:01:24 Do better. 1.00
01:01:25 Please, for the fucking, for the kids. 1.00
01:01:29 For the kids, for my 13-year-old cousin that watches his streams, because they, oh, he's 1.00
01:01:33 doing it, I'm going to do it.
01:01:34 Who's this? 0.87
01:01:37 Hey, bro, I will understand what a nigga's saying. 1.00
01:01:39 I don't think if she came on addiction was throwing her pussy on the camera, guys. 1.00
01:01:43 Yeah, he made the same, okay, but, okay, Black Boy Max is the same argument. 1.00
01:01:46 The whole thing is, the fact that she's clothed, all the people were like, oh, gooning, gooning.
01:01:50 Now they want to see everything.
01:01:52 So it's like, come on, man.
01:01:54 Do they not know or are they coping?
01:01:56 It's cope, it's cope, it's cope, it's cope.
01:01:57 Like, they want to make an excuse, you know, that they don't want to feel guilty for what
01:02:02 they're doing, so this is like a cope mechanism.
01:02:04 But Mela guard them, bro, Mela guard them, bro.
01:02:06 Yeah.
01:02:06 Yeah.
01:02:06 But she's known, like, everybody knows her as an OnlyFans, girl.
01:02:15 Like, come on, all right, but.
01:02:16 There's no socials in the bio or something like that?
01:02:19 Of course it is.
01:02:20 They click on her Instagram, the thing is right there, definitely.
01:02:22 They know what time it is, bro.
01:02:24 If nobody can have, like, anything going on outside of the stream, then there will never
01:02:28 be a woman on the stream ever again.
01:02:29 Okay, well, let me show you the, because the whole point she shows up is for the, is 1.00
01:02:35 for the fun of it.
01:02:35 Yeah, so can I be honest with you?
01:02:37 Yes. 1.00
01:02:37 I beat my dick to you. 1.00
01:02:38 Oh, this girl? 1.00
01:02:39 How do you know this?
01:02:40 I've seen her on X.
01:02:42 I was a lot of minutes.
01:02:43 I mean, dude, it pops up on the For You page.
01:02:45 True, true, true, true, true, true.
01:02:45 So can I be honest with you?
01:02:47 Yes. 0.99
01:02:47 I beat my dick to you right before I got on here, so I didn't get hard on the date. 0.99
01:02:53 And the thing is, like. 0.99
01:02:55 It's so funny playing this thing.
01:02:57 Bro, like.
01:02:57 Is that supposed to be a game?
01:02:59 Is that game?
01:02:59 That's literally the worst thing you could possibly say to a woman.
01:03:02 That's not, that's like zero riz.
01:03:02 Zero riz. 0.95
01:03:03 Like, if you want the woman not to look at you like the most disgusting individual, this 1.00
01:03:09 is literally what you're going to say. 0.56
01:03:10 And not only that, so you're not only destroying their life and making them doing that, but
01:03:13 you're destroying their social game.
01:03:15 And they're not going to be able to talk to any girls. 0.99
01:03:17 If you meet a girl, you tell her the first thing you tell her, I was masturbating to 1.00
01:03:20 you just before we came, like, we came to this date. 0.98
01:03:24 Like, this is insane.
01:03:26 Yeah, on top of that, you're putting on her pedestal.
01:03:28 Why would you put her on a pedestal? 1.00
01:03:29 You know what I mean?
01:03:30 Yeah.
01:03:32 Okay.
01:03:33 Yeah, yeah.
01:03:33 What'd you think about that?
01:03:35 What do you think about that?
01:03:35 Honestly, no comment.
01:03:37 I don't think you want me to say what I'm thinking about that.
01:03:40 Which is why I said literally.
01:03:42 No, I think I'm okay.
01:03:44 Well, what'd you do today?
01:03:46 Today, I basically...
01:03:48 So, that was the first thing.
01:03:49 He sat down.
01:03:50 He didn't ask her what her name was, how she's doing.
01:03:52 It's just literally straight to...
01:03:54 And, yeah.
01:03:55 But you know what's crazy?
01:03:55 And people follow us by example.
01:03:57 They're not face-to-face, right?
01:03:58 Yeah.
01:03:59 They can't see each other.
01:03:59 Yeah.
01:04:00 I guarantee you, he had the confidence to say because that was that part of it.
01:04:04 Because the wall?
01:04:05 Yeah.
01:04:05 But you see, that's the difference of you doing IRL streams, bro.
01:04:09 You're teaching these internet guys, like, how to deal with people in real life.
01:04:12 Well, this is an IRL stream.
01:04:13 This is technically an IRL stream.
01:04:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:04:15 I know, but it's like, they still live in that internet thing.
01:04:18 You know what I'm saying?
01:04:20 Yeah.
01:04:21 Okay.
01:04:21 And then here's another one.
01:04:23 Here's the last one before you go call Arab.
01:04:24 Let me text him that he's ready.
01:04:26 Do you know this guy?
01:04:27 Does this guy look familiar here?
01:04:29 Muhammad Ali?
01:04:30 The black guy.
01:04:32 Isn't this guy, like, LSI or something?
01:04:34 No, KSI.
01:04:35 LSI?
01:04:36 K. KSI.
01:04:37 I thought people were calling him LSI because...
01:04:39 No, no, that's just a lot of speech.
01:04:40 Didn't he say, like, a...
01:04:42 Paki? 1.00
01:04:42 Yeah, Paki. 1.00
01:04:44 He said Paki.
01:04:44 Oh, there's a Paki right here. 1.00
01:04:45 Do you feel offended?
01:04:47 Honestly, that word doesn't offend me.
01:04:48 Okay.
01:04:48 Well, he did a whole apology tour, and he went to homage it, and, yeah, the script.
01:04:52 The same, but...
01:04:52 What were you saying?
01:04:53 No, I was saying that's what I heard.
01:04:55 Just LSI, something like that.
01:04:56 No, no, no.
01:04:56 He talked about forehead as well.
01:04:58 That's all I know other than that.
01:04:59 It's not that big.
01:05:00 Okay, all right.
01:05:00 He's a nice guy.
01:05:01 I don't know.
01:05:02 That's as far as I know, personally.
01:05:03 Okay.
01:05:04 Well, he's big in England.
01:05:05 He's a rapper.
01:05:06 Oh, and he's...
01:05:07 He's a rapper?
01:05:07 I'm in the UK, so I got my thing against him, but, like...
01:05:10 He raps?
01:05:13 Yes.
01:05:14 Oh, I didn't know that.
01:05:16 Yeah, he's like a...
01:05:17 Like, YouTube...
01:05:18 People call him...
01:05:18 I used to be a fan of him when I was younger, when I was, like, 12.
01:05:21 Okay.
01:05:21 He's playing FIFA, funny montage stuff.
01:05:23 All right.
01:05:23 And now what does he do?
01:05:26 He...
01:05:27 Can you tell me one thing beneficial that he does to the community?
01:05:30 He has a drink.
01:05:33 A prime.
01:05:34 That is harmful to your health?
01:05:36 I don't know if it's...
01:05:37 I don't know the ingredients.
01:05:37 I'm asking a question.
01:05:38 I don't know.
01:05:39 I mean, it's...
01:05:40 I haven't...
01:05:42 Okay.
01:05:42 All right.
01:05:43 I'm not sure.
01:05:44 But he's funny?
01:05:45 Like, people...
01:05:46 I don't know.
01:05:46 People say he's funny.
01:05:47 I don't find him.
01:05:47 I don't watch him.
01:05:48 I don't know him.
01:05:49 So...
01:05:49 But that's what I heard, you know?
01:05:51 Okay.
01:05:51 About him.
01:05:52 But it's KSI, not LSI.
01:05:53 Okay.
01:05:54 It's KSI.
01:05:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:05:55 That's love speech.
01:05:56 Like, we didn't...
01:05:56 Okay, that's...
01:05:57 Guys, stop saying that.
01:05:58 I guess they're saying as well, LSI.
01:05:59 Yeah, I don't know what...
01:06:00 Stop, Eric.
01:06:01 Okay, stop, guys.
01:06:01 Stop, guys.
01:06:02 Sorry.
01:06:03 Okay, yeah.
01:06:03 But guys, could this mean that we're moving towards being political?
01:06:09 No, no.
01:06:09 No, no, no.
01:06:10 I just want to see...
01:06:11 That would be an example.
01:06:13 I'd rather have, like...
01:06:13 Sneaker in the background just going...
01:06:16 I'd rather have...
01:06:19 Yeah, I've been applying a pressure on them to talk about Palestine for a while.
01:06:21 So, he's...
01:06:22 The fact that they're finally going to go political, maybe they could say something beneficial now.
01:06:25 Maybe they could finally...
01:06:27 But did you hear the...
01:06:28 No, no, no.
01:06:29 No, no, no.
01:06:30 Let's just keep...
01:06:31 Just distract.
01:06:32 No, no, no, no.
01:06:33 Like, how many no's did you hear, bro?
01:06:34 It's actually a great point.
01:06:36 Yeah.
01:06:36 It's like, no!
01:06:37 Brand deals!
01:06:37 No.
01:06:38 Drinks!
01:06:39 No, we have to keep distracting the public.
01:06:41 Distract them.
01:06:41 Distract them.
01:06:42 Bad idea.
01:06:42 No, no, no.
01:06:43 They know their role.
01:06:44 Their role is not to wake people up or speak the truth at all.
01:06:47 It's not to spread any sort of message.
01:06:50 It's to fill up the void with entertainment.
01:06:53 So, I think that it's good.
01:06:55 And this is the proof of love speech.
01:06:56 We are applying pressure on every single streamer, every single influencer to say something of value.
01:07:02 Have you noticed?
01:07:03 Everyone, from top to bottom, every single one has noticed this.
01:07:05 Back when the sketch thing happened, when the moist critical thing happened, when the Chris and Mr. Beast thing happened.
01:07:10 We are applying pressure.
01:07:11 And this is why you guys are doing something valuable as well, watching these streams.
01:07:14 Everyone can feel it.
01:07:15 Now they have to...
01:07:15 Oh, I've got to say something about Palestine. 1.00
01:07:17 Oh, I've got to say something about transgenders cutting off their penises at nine years old. 1.00
01:07:21 Oh, I need to speak about what's going on in the world. 0.99
01:07:23 Who am I going to vote for, Trump or Kamala?
01:07:25 What do I take sides with?
01:07:26 What religion am I?
01:07:27 Is God real?
01:07:28 What do I...
01:07:28 Now, when they sit down and put a mic in front of their face, they feel like corn balls because they have nothing to speak about that's valuable.
01:07:35 And now we're applying pressure and they're feeling it.
01:07:37 So, alhamdulillah, it's very good that you guys are doing this.
01:07:39 But what would you say to streamers like this and influencers like this who don't say anything meaningful whatsoever?
01:07:45 Now they want to.
01:07:46 You know, it's good.
01:07:47 You know, and I invite, obviously, KSI, not LSI, I invite you to Islam. 0.84
01:07:51 If you...
01:07:51 I'll say it again, man.
01:07:52 I would speak to you privately.
01:07:54 I know we've had back and forth stuff like this.
01:07:55 But when it comes to Islam, I invite everybody, especially these streamers. 1.00
01:07:58 I know how important it is.
01:07:59 And I know that guys like this are looking for some sort of purpose and some sort of meaning in life.
01:08:03 And Islam gave me that meaning.
01:08:05 I found everything that I needed within Islam in this life.
01:08:07 Everything makes sense now.
01:08:08 I have a clear objective.
01:08:10 And alhamdulillah, I'm very blessed to have found this.
01:08:11 And I want other people, even people that I used to consider enemies of this stuff,
01:08:15 I just want to spread love speech and tell you about how great this is.
01:08:18 So, if you want to have a conversation, then we can.
01:08:21 What would you say to these people that want to transition from being fully entertainment streamers?
01:08:24 Because it's kind of a pattern with the phase people gooning and these guys with the drinks.
01:08:28 What would you say to that influencer who wants to start spreading something meaningful?
01:08:33 I personally think that, you know, certain people, they go through certain phases, you know.
01:08:36 So, obviously, if you've been on social media your whole life, obviously, between the age of like 15 to 21, it's all entertainment, girls, dating, this stuff, you know what I mean?
01:08:45 But once you get older after 25, you start thinking about life a little bit differently.
01:08:50 You know you have certain experiences.
01:08:51 You realize the seriousness of life.
01:08:52 Maybe you lost a loved one and you realize that, hey, there's something more to life than I think it is.
01:08:57 And maybe, you know, I need to tap into that and share that.
01:09:01 And if you, if my brother KS, if you are watching this and you want to tap into that, bro, there's no better way to do that than look at the message of Islam, bro.
01:09:09 If you want a greater purpose, you want to change the world in the most beneficial way possible, there's no better way than to do this, bro.
01:09:16 So, especially with a platform that you have, bro, you, like, bro, if you like millions on Earth, imagine the creator of the heavens and the Earth, the one that has all the wealth.
01:09:24 He'll give you more than you could ever desire, bro.
01:09:27 More than you could ever desire, bro.
01:09:29 Come on, dawg.
01:09:30 Come to the truth, bro.
01:09:31 We're waiting, bro.
01:09:32 Did you see, so he said the word Paki on a podcast and it was so bad, he got canceled so much.
01:09:37 Because when you're an entertainment streamer, they own you.
01:09:39 You can't say words.
01:09:40 You can't have free speech.
01:09:41 If you say a word as simple as Paki, and I'm going to say it right now, and he's Pakistani right here, nothing's happening. 1.00
01:09:46 It's just a word.
01:09:46 It doesn't mean that you have a malicious intent.
01:09:49 They own you and they own your speech to the point where you need to go to a majid and read a script, I'm sorry for saying Paki, I will never say it again. 1.00
01:09:57 And then you guys are like, no, no, no.
01:09:58 You get scared of just saying words on a podcast because you just want brand deals nonstop.
01:10:02 I would say relinquish that.
01:10:04 You have enough money.
01:10:05 That money, when you die, what are you going to do with it?
01:10:07 How much more money do you need?
01:10:09 Right?
01:10:09 To the point where they own you and they control you.
01:10:11 Do you think that you could buy freedom at a certain point?
01:10:13 Freedom is not bought.
01:10:14 At a certain level, like the multi-millions, 5 million, 30 million, it's all the same.
01:10:18 You have that much money and they own your speech.
01:10:21 Let go of that.
01:10:22 Let go of the brand deals.
01:10:23 You know, I just want to make a very simple point.
01:10:25 A lot of people mention your name and I think there's a lot of jealousy behind it.
01:10:30 They are jealous they're not able to say that which is on their mind.
01:10:34 They are jealous if they speak and say something, it's going to take their whole platform away.
01:10:39 This freedom is desirable.
01:10:41 You know, to be able to joke, to say whatever you want to say, to do it.
01:10:44 It is desirable.
01:10:45 It's a treasure that people don't see, right?
01:10:47 Because they don't have it, because they're so restricted.
01:10:50 They have to mention your name.
01:10:51 Like, we're not talking about them.
01:10:52 They mention your name.
01:10:53 Okay, who is there that is going to tell you that can say whatever is on his mind?
01:10:57 Oh, it's Nico is the first name that came to my mind.
01:10:59 Let's mention it.
01:11:00 So there is tons of jealousy there.
01:11:02 They could have more following.
01:11:03 You could have more money.
01:11:04 But the jealousy is still there because you got something they don't have.
01:11:08 I do think that's why.
01:11:10 And yeah, because off camera, they're saying as soon as the camera turns off and the microphones go off, they're saying, Baki.
01:11:16 Yeah.
01:11:17 Let's be real, bro.
01:11:18 They're saying every word that they're not allowed to say, as soon as they sigh, they let loose, and they're able to be their actual real selves.
01:11:24 It's all fraudulent.
01:11:26 And the whole purpose of podcasts and streaming, the reason that this entertainment form blew up was because it was real.
01:11:31 And TV was so saturated and fake.
01:11:33 We turn on TV, it's like, oh, it's a script, and they have the suit.
01:11:35 Hello, everybody.
01:11:36 And it felt fake.
01:11:37 And then YouTube came out.
01:11:38 Guys, like, I was about to say LSI.
01:11:40 KSI came out, and they're talking to the microphone, woo, making jokes and all this stuff.
01:11:43 They're being real, and they're connecting with the audience directly.
01:11:45 And then you guys, KSI, LSI, you made it corporate.
01:11:50 You sold out the whole reason that this was so cool in the beginning was because you could just turn on a camera like this and be real and be yourself.
01:11:57 And then you got so addicted to the money, so addicted to the fame and the brand deals and getting on stage and all this stuff that it's no longer real.
01:12:04 And people are searching for it.
01:12:06 Trust me, you don't need the platforms.
01:12:07 I'm on Rumble, and all of you still talk about me.
01:12:10 I'm banned everywhere.
01:12:11 I'm banned on Instagram, TikTok, all this stuff.
01:12:12 I'm still banned.
01:12:13 And people still talk about me because when you have free speech, nobody else does.
01:12:16 People are yearning for something real.
01:12:19 They need to have something real.
01:12:20 The truth is always going to be valuable, and people are always going to seek it out.
01:12:23 Let it go.
01:12:25 Let it go.
01:12:26 Okay, Arabistik is ready.
01:12:28 And, oh, young Don's ready, but, you know.
01:12:32 I have to.
01:12:36 Okay, let's call him.
01:12:40 Let's call him.
01:12:41 I think this was all the clips from this.
01:12:45 Let's see if he picks up.
01:12:46 If not, then we have some more things to speak about, inshallah.
01:12:48 So, also, what time is, what time is Fajr prayer?
01:12:50 It's right now, right?
01:12:51 In a bit, yeah.
01:12:52 Okay.
01:12:53 In a bit, still a bit.
01:12:54 You know, I heard the call to prayer around 5 a.m. yesterday.
01:12:58 I heard the call to prayer around 5.
01:12:59 Really?
01:13:00 Yeah.
01:13:00 And I heard the church bell go off at the same time.
01:13:07 Let's see.
01:13:07 Oh, I didn't even, well, while we call him, I'll give him a second.
01:13:10 I'm going to, yeah, I'll just call him now.
01:13:16 Let me see if he picks up.
01:13:18 Oh, he's up right away.
01:13:25 Yo.
01:13:26 Hey, Arab, how you doing?
01:13:28 Did you get a haircut?
01:13:31 Yeah, I did.
01:13:32 I chopped the long hair off.
01:13:33 I haven't leaked it yet, but the leaks are always on Sneako's stream first.
01:13:38 Let's go.
01:13:39 Let's go.
01:13:40 W-E.
01:13:40 It was time to get rid of that part of me, bro.
01:13:44 Reborn. 0.95
01:13:44 I'm Muslim.
01:13:45 Oh, happy love.
01:13:47 Hello, Edward.
01:13:48 Hello.
01:13:48 Take in.
01:13:49 Hello.
01:13:50 There we go.
01:13:51 It's good to see you.
01:13:52 You look good, man.
01:13:53 Wait, wait, wait.
01:13:54 Who gets my conversion points?
01:13:56 You or Warner?
01:13:58 We get a share of them because we all gave dawah.
01:14:01 Okay, cool.
01:14:02 We're not Lantern.
01:14:04 No.
01:14:04 I just met him.
01:14:05 If you accepted Islam, I'm happy.
01:14:07 That's it.
01:14:08 It's not about points at all.
01:14:10 If you accept Islam and you're a nice guy.
01:14:12 I did.
01:14:13 I did.
01:14:13 I'm just cracking jokes.
01:14:15 Yeah, I'm saying if that happens.
01:14:16 Actually, when that happens.
01:14:18 Sorry, let me put it a different way.
01:14:19 Inshallah.
01:14:19 When that happens, Inshallah, they will be happy for you.
01:14:22 Whoever it happens with, they'll be happy for you.
01:14:25 First of all, what's up, boys?
01:14:26 Let me start with saying Warner was a very prominent figure in my becoming closer to God.
01:14:37 I don't know if he gets negative points because I'm a Christian, you know, but that speech that we had on that train where you called me Shaytan, I started applying the word Shaytan to many things in real life.
01:14:51 And it helped me see how obvious the devil is in real life, you know, in the Sodom and Gomorrah of San Francisco and these kind of things.
01:15:00 So, first of all, before we start, I respect all my Muslim brothers.
01:15:05 And actually, 95% of my friends are Muslim.
01:15:10 They are.
01:15:11 I got to meet them in Beirut.
01:15:12 Also, I want to say shout-out to you, Pre-Glaze, but you are a great host in Lebanon.
01:15:16 Don May, it's all my Lebanese brother.
01:15:18 It was great hosting, and I want to come back to you.
01:15:20 Everything's fine in Lebanon? 1.00
01:15:21 You just got bombed, man.
01:15:22 Where are you?
01:15:24 I'm in Taiwan.
01:15:25 I'm in Taiwan.
01:15:26 I pulled up to Taiwan with Luke.
01:15:27 You just teleport places.
01:15:28 Is everybody in Lebanon okay?
01:15:29 You know, as okay as we can be, it's whatever.
01:15:35 Like, we get bombed here and there all the time, and you just learn to live with it.
01:15:39 I might be going back in a week.
01:15:42 Okay.
01:15:42 Like, even during the war, it's like, whatever.
01:15:45 Well, thanks to you for coming, too, bro, for coming during a war zone.
01:15:49 Like, that's pretty intense.
01:15:51 You know, people are scared shitless of Lebanon, and you pulled up.
01:15:54 Yeah, I mean, we went to Dahi, which is like a Shia compound in Beirut, and we went there
01:15:58 on stream, and then the backpack cut out, and so we didn't get to go in, and then five
01:16:02 days later, it gets bombed by Israel.
01:16:04 So, I mean, that's a sign.
01:16:07 Bro, that has to, that's a sign for my luck.
01:16:09 Well, it's getting bombed nonstop right now.
01:16:12 It's, that's what gets bombed first, because that's where the leaders are.
01:16:15 That's where they hide.
01:16:16 What leaders?
01:16:18 In 2006, Doc, he was flying.
01:16:20 Flying, by the way, like, fully flat, like, Gaza-level flat in 2006, and they rebuilt it.
01:16:28 So, it'll probably happen again in the next upcoming months.
01:16:31 Yeah.
01:16:32 You look like your brother, you look like your brother with his haircut.
01:16:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:16:37 I gotta fix it, too.
01:16:38 They don't really have the best barbers in Taiwan and Asia, because they don't grow beers. 0.95
01:16:43 They, they barely have fucking, their hair is like that one hip-hop style. 0.97
01:16:48 It's whatever. 0.99
01:16:48 Or, I'll fix it when I get out of here.
01:16:51 What's up, boys?
01:16:52 Well, what's up?
01:16:52 Yeah, Muscle Mantra wanted to speak to you.
01:16:53 I gotta say, off camera, he was saying positive things.
01:16:55 He thinks you're a nice guy, all this stuff.
01:16:57 You've never had an interaction before, right?
01:16:58 No, no, no, no, actually.
01:16:59 No, no, we haven't.
01:17:00 We haven't.
01:17:01 And also, by the way, I love speech. 0.82
01:17:02 When I call Taniko a rat, I call my good friends rats. 1.00
01:17:06 Like, that's my way of shit-talking them. 1.00
01:17:08 It's not your influencer ego, like, no friends in the industry bullshit. 1.00
01:17:12 I know. 0.95
01:17:13 I was like, I started playing Drake, but as soon as I saw that, I'm like, another one, bro.
01:17:16 Another influencer friend.
01:17:17 And then I texted you, and then you put it up. 0.99
01:17:20 Well, the sneaker replies on there, he goes, you could have just fucking texted me privately. 0.96
01:17:23 I'm like, wait, you took this serious? 0.97
01:17:25 Yeah, yeah.
01:17:26 Well, you know, I'm used to stuff like, you know, influencer friends snaking.
01:17:31 The only, the only.
01:17:32 Yeah, I'm not really in the influencer space.
01:17:34 I don't consider myself in the influencer space.
01:17:36 I'm connected because I was in the streaming, but, like, I push myself away from that.
01:17:40 I'm not a fan of how fake it actually is.
01:17:43 Like, you're one of the few people who I actually go back in and tap in with here and there.
01:17:47 But I'm not a fan of it, because, like you said, it's all, there's no friends in the industry. 0.99
01:17:51 Everyone's doing shit fake. 0.98
01:17:52 Everyone's acting. 1.00
01:17:53 That's just how it is in there.
01:17:54 Well, great.
01:17:55 Now, they're calling me rat coat.
01:17:56 They're calling me rat coat.
01:17:57 Whatever.
01:17:58 Which is why I get, I, why I get why you got, why you hang out with the Muslims and you've gotten much closer to Islam, because there is a brotherhood in there.
01:18:05 Yeah.
01:18:05 You know?
01:18:06 I mean, you're part of the Muslim brotherhood.
01:18:08 Allahu Akbar.
01:18:09 And another thing, too.
01:18:10 That was a joke, yeah?
01:18:11 Yeah.
01:18:12 Yeah, yeah.
01:18:13 No, no, no, U.S.
01:18:14 No, no, let me go home.
01:18:15 Political group.
01:18:15 Let me go home.
01:18:17 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:18:18 Yeah, and another thing, Arab, like, you know, one thing about brothers, they keep it real with each other.
01:18:23 And, you know, I appreciate you allowing me to keep it real with you on that train ride.
01:18:27 You know, because a lot of times, people, they can't, like, handle that authenticity and just someone just being raw and real with them, you know?
01:18:34 Oh, that's fine.
01:18:34 And you allowed me to do that, bro.
01:18:36 Because I asked you before, like, hey, bro, can I be completely honest with you?
01:18:40 Because I don't like being fake, you know what I mean?
01:18:42 And you allowed me to say what I need to say, and may Allah bless you for that, bro.
01:18:46 Bro, I'm a student of life.
01:18:47 I'm here to learn all opinions.
01:18:49 I'm here to hear from all sides.
01:18:50 And based off my life, right, our lives are a test where we have to dodge different booby traps.
01:18:57 And based off my life, I'll apply it to my life and act in alignment with the Ten Commandments and being the best person I can be, being honest, not being a thief, et cetera.
01:19:09 I'm okay, bro.
01:19:10 I'm okay with hearing any opinion, which is, one, I guess, how this conversation started for us to be here.
01:19:16 Two, do you guys actually, do you guys actually think believing Jesus is God is worse than being gay?
01:19:24 Like, come on, guys, come on. 0.51
01:19:28 The first thing when I saw that.
01:19:29 Imagine a dude, imagine a dude sticking it in.
01:19:32 Oh, I'm not imagining that.
01:19:37 Let's assume, let's assume I believe my God is, the God I believe is wrong.
01:19:45 Wouldn't that be out of ignorance?
01:19:46 So, first thing I want to say, when I saw the tweet that you made at Sneeko, I straight away knew you were joking.
01:19:54 I don't know if people took it seriously.
01:19:55 I knew you were joking 100%, but I did like it.
01:19:58 The first thing I thought about it is, let's have a chat.
01:20:01 Because you said, like, four times you're trying to have a discussion, religious discussion.
01:20:04 You guys, okay, we've got to do this, right?
01:20:06 Wait, for context, so we were speaking to an e-girl streamer, Demi, the other day.
01:20:11 And she asked me.
01:20:12 I laughed when he said, Bully, I don't know his life.
01:20:16 To clear the air for the Christian, like, oh, look at you. 1.00
01:20:18 You're only going to debate e-girls. 1.00
01:20:20 First off, she DMed me after three months.
01:20:27 I don't talk to her.
01:20:28 And she said, hey, can you educate me on Islam?
01:20:31 That's word for word what she said.
01:20:44 Can you educate me on Islam?
01:20:46 Not a debate.
01:20:47 She wanted to learn.
01:20:47 Obviously, I have students of knowledge around me, like Warner and like Bustle & Lantern.
01:20:50 Let's talk.
01:20:52 Alhamdulillah.
01:20:52 Yeah, so about the Jesus.
01:20:54 We literally were just explaining.
01:20:55 Bro, educate her.
01:20:57 No, go ahead.
01:20:57 Go ahead.
01:20:58 That's what she said.
01:20:58 She asked me to educate her.
01:20:59 Yeah, she wants you to educate her for a different purpose.
01:21:04 So your role now is, you know, when you got her in a private tutoring session, not in public where she can be ridiculed.
01:21:12 Oh, hold on, hold on. 1.00
01:21:13 Fuck, we're effing right. 1.00
01:21:14 You know, at your crib, just make sure if she talks back to you, you backhand her to the fence. 1.00
01:21:22 Hold on, we're lagging.
01:21:23 One second, one second.
01:21:24 Okay, we're back.
01:21:25 Okay, we're back.
01:21:26 Say that when we're...
01:21:27 No, I think it lagged out at the perfect time.
01:21:31 It lagged out at the perfect time.
01:21:32 It lagged out at the perfect time.
01:21:32 Yeah, it was a sign.
01:21:34 Look, this is a sign from the creator that we're going to need to hear.
01:21:37 We're being protected from Arab. 1.00
01:21:39 We're being protected from Arab jokes. 1.00
01:21:40 Alhamdulillah.
01:21:42 Alhamdulillah.
01:21:42 That was the best timing for it to lag, actually.
01:21:44 Just like in Dahi when the IRO backpack cut out when Arab wanted me to go to the Shia compound that was getting nuked by Israel. 0.76
01:21:50 So, Allah is the best of planners. 0.51
01:21:53 Alhamdulillah.
01:21:55 Yes, we were talking about...
01:21:56 Yeah, we were talking about the Jesus thing, actually, at the beginning of the stream.
01:22:00 Like, we're explaining it, like, how it works out, right?
01:22:03 That for you to give the rights of the creator that created you, created that man, created everyone around you,
01:22:08 is not the same as sinning against another human being.
01:22:11 Like, they're not equal.
01:22:12 You're not just...
01:22:13 You're denying God's rights, and not only denying them, which is bad in itself enough,
01:22:18 but you're giving them to something else, other than God.
01:22:21 So, that means you took that step to give gratitude, but you didn't give it to the one who gave you everything.
01:22:26 You went and gave it to something else.
01:22:28 Any other sin that you would make, whatever that sin is,
01:22:31 it's still against another human like you. 0.59
01:22:33 It's still against another creation like you. 1.00
01:22:35 So, it's not...
01:22:36 But I wouldn't make that same statement that was made,
01:22:39 because it's not just specifically about Jesus, about worshipping anything other than Allah.
01:22:43 There are certain people who say they're Muslims,
01:22:45 and they still pray to dead people and pray to other than God.
01:22:48 They're still committing the same problem, right?
01:22:50 So, it's not about Christianity specifically.
01:22:52 Anyone who gives the rights that are due to the creator,
01:22:55 to other than the creator, is committing the worst sin they could do, essentially.
01:23:01 Yeah.
01:23:02 So, first of all, if you're doing that sin,
01:23:04 I don't think it's committing a sin against another human. 0.71
01:23:07 Being gay is...
01:23:09 It's not about doing a sin against someone else. 0.91
01:23:11 It's a sin against you and your soul.
01:23:14 Yeah, okay, but you're doing it with someone else.
01:23:16 So, you're also doing that sin with someone else.
01:23:18 So, it's yes.
01:23:19 It is against yourself and it's against God.
01:23:21 But still, in the same time,
01:23:23 you're doing it with another human being or someone else sharing with you.
01:23:26 Right.
01:23:27 Well, this comes down to you guys saying shirk is the worst sin, right?
01:23:32 Yes.
01:23:32 And that's what?
01:23:33 Idol worship?
01:23:34 Yes.
01:23:35 Associating partners with Allah.
01:23:36 Either rejecting the creator or associating partners with God.
01:23:39 So, even saying Jesus is the son of God,
01:23:41 that's still associating partners with Allah.
01:23:43 That's also a shirk. 0.96
01:23:44 Right, right.
01:23:45 And where Muslims deny that is that God could never be a human, right? 0.94
01:23:52 God could never be anything else than God.
01:23:55 Right.
01:23:56 Because you're saying God isn't powerful enough to do things that you don't understand.
01:24:00 So, you believe God is a human?
01:24:01 You believe God is a human?
01:24:02 No, I believe God is God and God is powerful enough to do things that we don't understand fully.
01:24:10 But is he a human or not?
01:24:12 Yes.
01:24:13 Jesus Christ was a human.
01:24:16 Okay.
01:24:16 But he was also, but he was also empowered by the Lord.
01:24:20 He was 100% divine and 100% human.
01:24:22 He took on the human nature to show us, to show us humans.
01:24:30 He took on the human nature to show us humans what it's like to be a perfect human, 1.00
01:24:35 which none of us can do because we all fucking suck. 0.99
01:24:38 Right, I understand. 1.00
01:24:39 We all suck. 1.00
01:24:40 If we, you know, we look at a woman twice, right? 1.00
01:24:43 The first look is halal, the second one is haram.
01:24:45 We look at women twice all the time, you know? 0.99
01:24:48 Or we, in our thoughts, think something negatively about someone and then we have to correct it.
01:24:53 You know, these things are all minor sins that Jesus Christ never did,
01:24:57 which is why, and I believe in the Quran as well, he was sinless, correct?
01:25:02 Well, it doesn't use that term in the Quran.
01:25:04 When you use the term pure, prophets are pure.
01:25:06 So, it doesn't use the term sinless, right?
01:25:10 Without a sin or something like that.
01:25:11 There's no, that term clearly is not there.
01:25:14 There are, it says ghulam and zakiya.
01:25:15 Zakiya means pure.
01:25:16 And it's used for other than Jesus in the Quran as well, for other prophets.
01:25:19 But, you know, Christians, they say all the time,
01:25:21 but they don't understand what the verse is saying from that sense.
01:25:24 It's common where Christians say that the Quran says that.
01:25:27 I know.
01:25:27 Well, you wanted to say something.
01:25:28 Yeah, well, I wanted to respond to this,
01:25:29 because Arab, I've heard you make this argument before.
01:25:31 So, you're saying that God is so powerful that you believe that our version of God
01:25:36 is less powerful because we don't think God could become a man, correct?
01:25:40 So, God is so powerful, in your view, God is so powerful
01:25:42 that he could do something that we can't understand and become a man.
01:25:45 But he's so powerful he could become weak.
01:25:47 That's what he's saying.
01:25:48 No, no, no.
01:25:49 He could become, so God is so powerful,
01:25:51 he could do things that we are out of our comprehension become men.
01:25:55 I don't believe your version of God is different.
01:25:57 I think you just deny that Jesus Christ was also part of God.
01:26:01 I think we both pray to the same Allah.
01:26:03 I think we pray to Allah.
01:26:04 You just don't believe that Jesus Christ was sent down.
01:26:07 But you're saying by the...
01:26:08 In that sense, yes.
01:26:09 I believe you're limiting God, yes.
01:26:11 Okay, we're limiting God.
01:26:13 Can there be a squared circle?
01:26:17 You're trying to apply logic to something that isn't logical.
01:26:20 God is logical 100%.
01:26:21 This is where we disagree.
01:26:23 God is logical to us.
01:26:24 Like, we believe our faith comes from a logical...
01:26:27 It comes from logic and reason, right?
01:26:29 There's things that have to be understood.
01:26:31 And second, I would say,
01:26:32 if you're saying that God is so powerful,
01:26:34 he could become a man, right?
01:26:37 That is limiting God.
01:26:38 You're saying that he's limitless and he could become a man.
01:26:40 We're saying that he's so limitless
01:26:42 that there's some things that are impossible to happen.
01:26:44 It's not that he's limited and he can't do something.
01:26:46 It's that God is all-powerful, all-merciful,
01:26:48 and there's some things that are just impossible of happening.
01:26:50 That doesn't mean that he's limited.
01:26:51 That just means that he's limitless,
01:26:53 and so it's impossible for him to be a man that dies.
01:26:56 If a man could die,
01:26:57 that you're applying limitations on God.
01:26:59 In fact, you think that we're...
01:27:01 But the man defied death, actually.
01:27:04 He was resurrected.
01:27:05 But he died for three days.
01:27:06 We're saying that God is so limitless,
01:27:07 it's impossible for God to die.
01:27:10 You're saying he died,
01:27:11 but I'm telling you he defied death.
01:27:12 And then you're applying a term, three days,
01:27:15 okay, to somebody that defied death.
01:27:19 You said he died.
01:27:20 I'm telling you he resurrected.
01:27:21 But he was dead.
01:27:23 He defied death.
01:27:25 But you're saying he was dead.
01:27:27 So he was dead.
01:27:28 He was dead.
01:27:28 He was dead on this world,
01:27:30 our definition of death,
01:27:31 but he never died.
01:27:33 Yeah, he died,
01:27:34 but he resurrected, bro.
01:27:35 So he was dead.
01:27:36 So God was dead.
01:27:37 He resurrected.
01:27:38 He resurrected.
01:27:40 But was God dead?
01:27:42 No, God was not dead.
01:27:44 Jesus Christ died for our sins.
01:27:47 Okay.
01:27:48 But he resurrected.
01:27:49 Before he resurrected.
01:27:50 You're saying can God die?
01:27:51 You're saying can God die?
01:27:52 I'm not asking that.
01:27:53 I'm saying did Jesus die?
01:27:56 Yes, Jesus Christ died for our sins.
01:27:57 Okay, so God died.
01:28:00 But you're comparing the divine nature
01:28:02 to the human nature.
01:28:04 The human nature, yes,
01:28:06 Jesus Christ died.
01:28:08 Went up to heaven.
01:28:09 Went down to hell,
01:28:11 I believe, actually.
01:28:12 Okay, let me respond to this point.
01:28:13 Yeah, go ahead.
01:28:14 First, I want to explain one thing to you.
01:28:16 What is God?
01:28:20 God is the most powerful,
01:28:22 omniscient, and omnipotent being.
01:28:24 Beautiful.
01:28:25 God is everything around us.
01:28:28 You know, God is...
01:28:29 Not everything around us,
01:28:30 but what you said first is correct.
01:28:32 Yes, okay.
01:28:33 So omniscient, omnipotent,
01:28:34 all these things, right?
01:28:36 So when we use words,
01:28:38 these words have definitions.
01:28:41 When you say something is God,
01:28:43 then it is what you said.
01:28:44 That's why I asked you,
01:28:44 what is God?
01:28:45 Is it all powerful, all knowing, etc.?
01:28:46 When I say this is a screen,
01:28:50 we don't say this is God
01:28:51 because the screen also has definition, right?
01:28:53 It's made from metal, iron, etc.
01:28:54 These different things.
01:28:55 So the minute you say
01:28:57 God is no longer possessing the attribute
01:29:00 of what we refer to as God,
01:29:02 that's no longer God.
01:29:03 So if that God in your belief
01:29:05 for any belief, right?
01:29:06 Becomes anything other than
01:29:07 what these attributes are,
01:29:09 by definition,
01:29:11 that is no longer God.
01:29:12 You can still use the term God,
01:29:13 but that is misuse of the term
01:29:14 because what we call God
01:29:16 is the all-powerful,
01:29:17 all-knowing entity, etc.
01:29:18 The second thing about the death,
01:29:20 which is what you're telling,
01:29:21 sneaker about,
01:29:23 when Jesus, your God, died,
01:29:25 he did not resurrect himself.
01:29:27 He was resurrected by the Father.
01:29:30 Now, when Lazarus died,
01:29:32 he was also resurrected by God.
01:29:34 If Jesus is God
01:29:35 because he was resurrected
01:29:36 by another entity,
01:29:38 then Lazarus is also God
01:29:39 because he was erected by other entities.
01:29:41 We did not say
01:29:41 we didn't say Jesus is God
01:29:44 because he was resurrected
01:29:45 by another entity.
01:29:46 I was responding to your point
01:29:47 about him dying
01:29:48 so he can't be God.
01:29:49 No, but you said
01:29:50 he conquered him, right?
01:29:51 You were saying he died.
01:29:51 I was countering your point.
01:29:54 I wasn't saying he's God
01:29:55 because he resurrected.
01:29:56 Yeah, Lazarus resurrected.
01:29:57 I was countering your point
01:29:58 to the fact that,
01:30:00 oh, God died.
01:30:01 He can't be God.
01:30:01 God can't die.
01:30:02 Let me ask you.
01:30:02 Let me ask you.
01:30:03 He resurrected.
01:30:04 He defied death.
01:30:05 You used a very specific term, right?
01:30:07 Which is the term
01:30:08 that I'm refuting right now.
01:30:10 He conquered death, right?
01:30:13 I never said conquer death,
01:30:14 but yeah.
01:30:15 You actually did.
01:30:16 Oh, I didn't, actually.
01:30:18 I actually bet $1,000
01:30:19 on that I never used the word conquer.
01:30:20 Okay, a bit of things is haram.
01:30:21 I bet $1,000.
01:30:22 Haram bro, haram bro.
01:30:23 All right, but the thing is.
01:30:24 To charity.
01:30:25 $1,000 to charity
01:30:27 that I never used the word conquer.
01:30:27 No, but actually, actually,
01:30:28 I keep a very good memory
01:30:30 of what other people say
01:30:31 and you will see later on
01:30:32 when you rewind the video
01:30:33 that you have said you conquered death.
01:30:35 But do you agree
01:30:36 he didn't conquer death?
01:30:40 Did he conquer death?
01:30:42 Conquer death.
01:30:43 Yes, conquer death.
01:30:43 Okay, so there's no point.
01:30:44 Okay, so you said it now.
01:30:46 So when you say
01:30:46 when you say Jesus
01:30:48 came back,
01:30:49 resurrected,
01:30:50 whatever it is,
01:30:51 that is not a plus point
01:30:53 because it's not him who did it.
01:30:54 It's someone else
01:30:55 who did it for him.
01:30:56 Just like Lazarus
01:30:57 is not the one who did it.
01:30:58 Someone else did it for him.
01:31:00 So that's not a plus point.
01:31:01 When you say someone resurrected,
01:31:03 that is not him doing it.
01:31:06 That is someone else
01:31:07 resurrecting him.
01:31:08 Number one.
01:31:09 Number two,
01:31:09 you cannot resurrect without dying.
01:31:11 And God doesn't die.
01:31:13 Do you know what?
01:31:13 Do you know who says
01:31:14 God doesn't die?
01:31:15 Who?
01:31:16 The Bible.
01:31:18 God doesn't die.
01:31:19 Do you have the Bible?
01:31:20 Of course.
01:31:20 You can read it.
01:31:21 God doesn't die.
01:31:22 Our definition of death
01:31:23 is not the same.
01:31:24 We're on a different timeline.
01:31:26 That's the second point.
01:31:27 Then the most holy creator, right?
01:31:29 Okay.
01:31:29 That's the second point
01:31:30 of what you said.
01:31:31 When you die,
01:31:32 do you actually die?
01:31:34 Your soul lives on,
01:31:35 but you die, yes. 0.71
01:31:37 Your soul lives on.
01:31:38 The definition of death
01:31:38 is separation between
01:31:40 your body and soul.
01:31:41 Definition of death
01:31:42 is a separation of body and soul.
01:31:44 That happened to Jesus
01:31:45 according to the Christian belief.
01:31:46 So by definition,
01:31:47 he died.
01:31:47 If you say he didn't die
01:31:49 because his soul lives on,
01:31:50 then there's no human being
01:31:51 that dies.
01:31:51 I never said he didn't die.
01:31:52 I did say he died.
01:31:53 I said he defied death.
01:31:56 Sorry?
01:31:57 He defied death.
01:31:57 I said he died.
01:31:59 Again,
01:31:59 I said he defied death.
01:32:00 All of these terms.
01:32:01 Again,
01:32:02 he didn't do anything.
01:32:03 Someone else did it
01:32:03 on his behalf.
01:32:05 Someone else did it for him.
01:32:06 Well,
01:32:07 according to the father
01:32:09 through him.
01:32:10 Yeah.
01:32:10 Yes, the father through him.
01:32:11 Okay.
01:32:12 So it's not him doing it.
01:32:13 So we cannot attribute it
01:32:14 to him when he's
01:32:15 the one who did it.
01:32:16 Okay.
01:32:17 Okay.
01:32:17 So let's bring about
01:32:19 a different point.
01:32:19 So when you look at
01:32:20 the leaders of a religion,
01:32:21 right?
01:32:22 Okay.
01:32:22 When you look at
01:32:22 the leaders of a religion,
01:32:23 let's say Jesus Christ
01:32:25 versus Muhammad. 0.85
01:32:27 We don't say,
01:32:28 okay.
01:32:28 When you look at them.
01:32:30 No, go ahead.
01:32:30 I wanted to make your point.
01:32:31 I mean,
01:32:31 yes, yes, go ahead.
01:32:32 I mean,
01:32:32 you do Nabi Muhammad 1.00
01:32:34 and when you say Muhammad,
01:32:35 you say,
01:32:35 you know,
01:32:35 may he rest in peace.
01:32:37 Like you always say that.
01:32:38 You know the prophets.
01:32:39 Peace be upon all of them.
01:32:40 All of them.
01:32:40 All of them.
01:32:42 Yeah,
01:32:42 but I mean,
01:32:43 you can say he's not the leader,
01:32:44 but he definitely is the leader.
01:32:46 No, no.
01:32:47 Yeah.
01:32:47 I want you to make your point.
01:32:49 No problem.
01:32:50 Don't worry about something.
01:32:50 Let me make my point.
01:32:52 Yes, yes.
01:32:52 Skip the semantics for example.
01:32:53 Yes, yes, yes, yes.
01:32:54 Okay.
01:32:54 When you look at
01:32:55 Jesus Christ versus Muhammad, 1.00
01:32:58 Jesus Christ was somebody 0.86
01:32:59 who never sinned.
01:33:01 You know,
01:33:02 following the path of Jesus Christ,
01:33:03 which is what we believe in
01:33:05 as Christians,
01:33:05 to be a good Christian
01:33:06 isn't about speaking,
01:33:07 isn't about
01:33:08 enacting your faith
01:33:10 upon other people.
01:33:11 It's about
01:33:12 not judging.
01:33:13 It's about not lying,
01:33:14 not stealing,
01:33:15 following these commandments,
01:33:16 you know,
01:33:16 not being an adulterer,
01:33:18 et cetera.
01:33:19 When you,
01:33:19 when you look at
01:33:20 the path of Jesus Christ
01:33:21 versus the path of Muhammad, 0.66
01:33:22 somebody who waged
01:33:24 multiple wars,
01:33:26 decades of wars,
01:33:28 somebody who had
01:33:29 multiple wives,
01:33:33 I don't even,
01:33:34 the Aisha thing,
01:33:35 I don't even consider
01:33:36 that an argument
01:33:36 because back then
01:33:37 things were different.
01:33:38 You know,
01:33:38 marrying someone who was,
01:33:40 blah, blah,
01:33:40 things were much different
01:33:41 than they are these days.
01:33:43 I know a lot of people
01:33:43 use that point,
01:33:44 but I don't consider
01:33:45 that a point,
01:33:46 but having multiple wives,
01:33:48 for example,
01:33:50 a muta'ah marriage. 1.00
01:33:52 Can we,
01:33:52 can we deal with one point
01:33:54 at a time, right?
01:33:55 I can deal with all of them
01:33:56 at a time.
01:33:57 But the first thing
01:33:57 I want to say is
01:33:58 the minute you compare
01:33:59 Prophet Muhammad to Jesus, 0.97
01:34:00 you admit to defeat.
01:34:01 And I'll tell you
01:34:02 how you did that
01:34:02 is you compared
01:34:04 what you believe
01:34:04 is God to a human being.
01:34:06 Instead of comparing
01:34:07 Jesus to Allah,
01:34:07 that's how all Christians 0.98
01:34:08 lose by default
01:34:09 because they compare
01:34:10 their God
01:34:11 to whom we believe
01:34:12 is just a human being
01:34:13 that is not God.
01:34:14 So that shows
01:34:15 that you don't believe
01:34:15 Jesus is God
01:34:16 because you would compare
01:34:16 him with God
01:34:17 who is Allah.
01:34:18 Rather than that,
01:34:19 you compare him
01:34:19 to Prophet Muhammad
01:34:21 who is a prophet
01:34:22 who is not God.
01:34:22 That's the first point
01:34:23 I'll make.
01:34:24 The second point
01:34:24 I'll make,
01:34:25 if you say that
01:34:25 Prophet Muhammad 0.98
01:34:26 did these things,
01:34:27 whatever these things
01:34:28 that you mentioned,
01:34:29 going to war, 0.58
01:34:30 all of this stuff,
01:34:31 like marrying multiple wives,
01:34:33 does that disqualify him
01:34:35 in your belief
01:34:35 from being a prophet
01:34:36 of God?
01:34:37 That's my question to you.
01:34:39 No,
01:34:39 that doesn't disqualify him
01:34:40 from being a prophet
01:34:41 of God.
01:34:41 And two,
01:34:43 this whole
01:34:44 you've already lost,
01:34:45 win or lose.
01:34:46 Not lost.
01:34:47 I'm not having a conversation
01:34:48 to win or lose.
01:34:49 Yeah.
01:34:49 I'm having a conversation
01:34:50 not so I can go,
01:34:53 I won,
01:34:53 I beat you, 1.00
01:34:53 bitch. 1.00
01:34:54 It's 1v3, 1.00
01:34:54 first of all.
01:34:55 My chases here
01:34:57 are not,
01:34:58 you know,
01:34:59 they're not the best.
01:35:00 That's a fair point.
01:35:01 Second of all,
01:35:02 second of all,
01:35:02 second of all,
01:35:03 I'm speaking purely
01:35:04 off of what I've been
01:35:06 studying in my brain
01:35:07 for the last four,
01:35:09 by the way,
01:35:09 I just recently
01:35:10 became religious.
01:35:11 Okay.
01:35:11 I don't know
01:35:12 if you know that,
01:35:13 not four or five months
01:35:16 ago,
01:35:16 I was 99%
01:35:17 to becoming a Muslim.
01:35:18 Okay.
01:35:18 The only thing
01:35:19 that stopped me
01:35:19 was I had to tell my mom
01:35:21 if in my soul.
01:35:22 And then I got released
01:35:24 from being kidnapped
01:35:25 by the devil
01:35:26 a day before Easter.
01:35:28 So things changed for me.
01:35:30 But I'm not here
01:35:31 to do a win or loss.
01:35:32 I'm here for a
01:35:33 religious exercise,
01:35:34 right?
01:35:35 So,
01:35:35 and you say,
01:35:36 oh,
01:35:36 you already lost
01:35:37 because you compared
01:35:38 Jesus Christ to Muhammad. 1.00
01:35:40 Not lost,
01:35:41 not lost.
01:35:41 I'm saying defeated
01:35:42 from what sense?
01:35:43 From the sense
01:35:44 is that you are
01:35:46 going against
01:35:47 the belief
01:35:47 that you're proposing,
01:35:48 which is the fact
01:35:49 that you,
01:35:50 the belief
01:35:51 that you're pushing
01:35:51 forward and proposing.
01:35:52 I'm looking at the teachers.
01:35:54 I'm looking at the teachers
01:35:55 of our religions.
01:35:56 I'm not,
01:35:56 I'm not speaking
01:35:57 God versus God right now.
01:35:59 I'm not saying
01:36:00 Jesus Christ versus Muhammad 1.00
01:36:01 is God versus human.
01:36:02 I'm looking at the teachers
01:36:03 of our religions.
01:36:04 Our teacher,
01:36:05 Jesus Christ,
01:36:06 versus your teacher,
01:36:07 Muhammad.
01:36:08 He's God in your belief.
01:36:09 Allah is God in your belief.
01:36:10 Versus your teacher,
01:36:10 Muhammad.
01:36:11 But I'm not,
01:36:11 I'm not comparing God
01:36:12 for God.
01:36:13 I'm comparing teacher
01:36:14 versus teacher.
01:36:15 So do you agree?
01:36:15 Teacher versus teacher.
01:36:16 Do you agree that
01:36:17 comparison is flawed
01:36:18 by nature?
01:36:18 If it's,
01:36:19 it's like apples and oranges
01:36:20 what people say,
01:36:21 right?
01:36:21 That,
01:36:22 that comparison
01:36:22 by definition is flawed.
01:36:24 if one is God
01:36:25 in your belief
01:36:25 and one is just a human,
01:36:26 you cannot compare God
01:36:27 to a human.
01:36:28 Unless,
01:36:29 unless you deep down,
01:36:30 this is the argument
01:36:31 that I'm making,
01:36:31 right?
01:36:32 The defeat that,
01:36:32 when I say defeat,
01:36:33 I mean the ideology
01:36:34 is defeated.
01:36:35 That's what I mean.
01:36:36 It's to,
01:36:36 unless you deep down
01:36:37 know that Jesus
01:36:38 wasn't God,
01:36:40 which then it would make sense
01:36:41 to compare him
01:36:41 with another prophet.
01:36:42 If you want to compare,
01:36:43 you compare the same,
01:36:44 right?
01:36:44 From the same thing.
01:36:45 So that is the point
01:36:46 that I was making
01:36:47 is when you,
01:36:47 when you say,
01:36:48 oh,
01:36:48 Jesus versus Muhammad, 0.96
01:36:49 this is an argument
01:36:50 that shouldn't be even,
01:36:51 peace be upon both of them,
01:36:53 the argument shouldn't be even done
01:36:54 from a Christian perspective
01:36:56 because Jesus was God
01:36:57 is not just a human
01:36:58 from their belief,
01:36:59 right?
01:36:59 Now,
01:37:00 the things that prophet Muhammad done,
01:37:01 you said something very fair,
01:37:02 fair enough,
01:37:03 which I agree with you.
01:37:04 Before you get into that,
01:37:05 before you get into that,
01:37:05 let me just respond to this point.
01:37:06 Of course.
01:37:07 But yeah,
01:37:07 Jesus Christ was a human.
01:37:09 Okay.
01:37:10 But we're going to disagree
01:37:11 on this point.
01:37:12 So there's no point
01:37:13 of trying to break down
01:37:13 my semantics
01:37:14 because you don't believe
01:37:15 Jesus Christ was a God.
01:37:17 I believe he was both
01:37:18 God and human.
01:37:18 I know.
01:37:19 So we're past that point
01:37:20 because we know
01:37:20 we're not going to agree on that.
01:37:21 So when I mentioned
01:37:22 something like that
01:37:23 and you try to dissect it
01:37:24 as,
01:37:25 oh,
01:37:25 well,
01:37:25 you don't believe
01:37:26 because you made a comparison
01:37:27 to Muhammad,
01:37:27 you don't believe
01:37:28 that Jesus Christ was God,
01:37:29 you've already lost.
01:37:30 Well,
01:37:31 we disagree on the definition
01:37:32 of Jesus Christ.
01:37:33 Yeah.
01:37:34 So there's no point
01:37:34 of even trying to break that down.
01:37:35 Just move on to the point
01:37:36 of the Muhammad part
01:37:40 that you were about
01:37:40 to speak about,
01:37:41 right?
01:37:41 Do you know what I'm saying?
01:37:42 Wait,
01:37:42 can I pause for a second?
01:37:44 Wait,
01:37:44 Arab,
01:37:44 I want to,
01:37:45 you know what I'm saying,
01:37:45 right?
01:37:46 We're not going to agree on that.
01:37:47 Arab,
01:37:47 let me ask you for a second.
01:37:49 Young Don wants to,
01:37:50 he thinks,
01:37:50 Young Don says,
01:37:51 texting me saying
01:37:51 it's a 3v1,
01:37:52 he would like to join
01:37:53 the discussion.
01:37:53 Is that okay with you?
01:37:54 Sure.
01:37:54 I don't know who Young Don is,
01:37:56 but sure.
01:37:57 You don't know Young Don
01:37:57 the sauce God?
01:37:59 No,
01:37:59 no.
01:38:00 He's a Christian
01:38:01 and he's a good friend of mine
01:38:02 and I haven't spoke to him
01:38:03 in a long time.
01:38:03 Okay,
01:38:03 I have to make a new car.
01:38:05 Trevor,
01:38:05 yeah,
01:38:06 yeah.
01:38:06 Okay,
01:38:06 I didn't think he was going to.
01:38:08 When he comes in,
01:38:09 when he comes in,
01:38:10 let's continue his point,
01:38:11 Lanter.
01:38:11 Of course.
01:38:11 Hold that point,
01:38:12 hold that point.
01:38:13 I want to say something
01:38:13 that's very important.
01:38:15 That's why I like Arab
01:38:16 is because we have nice discussions,
01:38:18 we allow each other to speak,
01:38:20 it's all chill,
01:38:20 this is how it should be,
01:38:21 you know?
01:38:21 Yeah,
01:38:21 of course.
01:38:22 We're not,
01:38:23 right.
01:38:24 So hopefully you keep it.
01:38:25 Not getting emotional like that.
01:38:27 Yes,
01:38:27 absolutely.
01:38:27 Okay,
01:38:36 Young Don's joining soon.
01:38:37 I haven't spoken to him
01:38:39 and yeah,
01:38:40 it's going to be cool.
01:38:42 Lantern,
01:38:43 Lantern,
01:38:43 are you,
01:38:44 is that your name
01:38:46 or does Lantern mean something?
01:38:47 No,
01:38:47 no,
01:38:47 Muhammad is my name.
01:38:48 Lantern is the channel name,
01:38:49 it's a Muslim Lantern.
01:38:50 My name is Muhammad.
01:38:51 Okay,
01:38:51 cool.
01:38:51 Yeah,
01:38:52 yeah.
01:38:52 So cool,
01:38:52 it's a cool name.
01:38:53 Yeah,
01:38:53 I appreciate it.
01:38:54 Hey,
01:38:54 Warner is my name though.
01:38:56 That's my real name.
01:38:58 Yeah,
01:38:58 your name's cool too.
01:38:59 Your name's cool too,
01:39:00 but like,
01:39:00 I'm like that guy. 1.00
01:39:01 You've been beating the shit 0.99
01:39:04 ahead of people in LA. 1.00
01:39:07 Don,
01:39:07 how are you bro?
01:39:08 Nice to meet you.
01:39:09 You should be called the enforcer,
01:39:11 not the Warner,
01:39:11 bro.
01:39:13 Hold up, 0.90
01:39:13 I need to mute rumble real quick.
01:39:15 My bad.
01:39:16 How's it going,
01:39:17 Don?
01:39:17 Yo,
01:39:17 young Don,
01:39:18 what's up bro?
01:39:18 I'm A-Rab.
01:39:19 I'm your teammate today apparently.
01:39:22 Holy war!
01:39:24 I appreciate you trying to defend the faith,
01:39:26 bro.
01:39:26 And what's up,
01:39:28 Sneakowin? 0.84
01:39:28 Who are your brothers?
01:39:30 What's up,
01:39:31 man?
01:39:31 So this is Muhammad Ali,
01:39:32 his YouTube channel is the Muslim Lantern.
01:39:34 He's a good friend of mine.
01:39:35 And I saw,
01:39:36 we covered it yesterday.
01:39:37 I saw that you agreed with me on the age of marriage.
01:39:39 My take on that debate with Moyes Critical.
01:39:42 Muslim Lantern was like, 0.99
01:39:43 he thinks I'm giving him too much credit,
01:39:44 but we,
01:39:45 he helped coach me before the debate.
01:39:47 So like,
01:39:48 I was running through the simulations with him beforehand.
01:39:50 So I do respect his intellect quite a bit.
01:39:53 And this is the Warner here.
01:39:54 He's a great Da'am person,
01:39:56 obviously very smart too.
01:39:57 We,
01:39:57 we traveled quite a bit.
01:39:59 He showed me around Mecca,
01:40:01 these things.
01:40:01 I was a good tour guide and helped me,
01:40:03 you know,
01:40:04 help me learn Islam.
01:40:06 Nice to meet you,
01:40:06 my brother.
01:40:07 I like your beard,
01:40:07 by the way.
01:40:08 You know,
01:40:08 we're on that place still.
01:40:10 Yeah.
01:40:11 One,
01:40:11 what?
01:40:12 Keep it,
01:40:12 keep,
01:40:13 keep that point in mind that Lantern wasn't about to talk about.
01:40:15 Yeah.
01:40:15 Hold it.
01:40:15 I was just making a small yap,
01:40:17 small,
01:40:17 quick.
01:40:19 Hold on.
01:40:20 Let me do.
01:40:20 Yeah,
01:40:21 bro.
01:40:21 You know,
01:40:22 I wouldn't exactly say I agree with you when it comes to the age of
01:40:26 marriage.
01:40:26 I was just saying that from the biological and historical arguments,
01:40:32 there can be made to justify why we see certain normative practices in the
01:40:38 past.
01:40:39 But,
01:40:39 you know,
01:40:39 those aren't standards that I would apply to today.
01:40:43 Right.
01:40:43 I agree that people mature much later today.
01:40:45 So like applying that standard,
01:40:46 obviously I wouldn't like most 18 year olds and maybe 21 year olds are not
01:40:50 like ready for marriage mentally.
01:40:51 Like they're,
01:40:52 they're not ready to do it.
01:40:52 But the only metric of judging adulthood is that puberty.
01:40:55 That's like biologically true.
01:40:57 And so if you're going to follow some sort of morality,
01:40:59 I think the only thing that makes sense would be the Quran or for you guys, 0.98
01:41:02 the Bible.
01:41:04 Yeah.
01:41:05 Yeah.
01:41:05 You know,
01:41:06 like I said,
01:41:07 I think that it happens.
01:41:09 Having the conversation from a biological scientific point of view is one thing.
01:41:15 And then you have the historical point of view,
01:41:17 you know,
01:41:18 to so that we don't condemn all the people of the past who came before us.
01:41:23 And because this is a practice we see throughout the entire world,
01:41:28 you know,
01:41:29 and we see 14 to 16 being a very common age,
01:41:34 you know,
01:41:35 Catholic tradition teaches us that.
01:41:38 And by Catholic,
01:41:39 I mean,
01:41:39 the universal church,
01:41:40 the historical position has always been that Mary conceived the Lord between 14 and
01:41:46 16.
01:41:47 And so,
01:41:48 you know,
01:41:48 things were different in the past.
01:41:51 Things were different in the past.
01:41:53 Do I believe that we can apply those standards to today?
01:41:58 I don't by and large,
01:42:00 you know,
01:42:01 maybe there are some cultural context that if people want to get into the nitty gritty,
01:42:06 get into the nuances of those specific cultures,
01:42:08 then maybe an argument can be made there.
01:42:11 But,
01:42:11 you know,
01:42:12 here in the West and in most parts of the world,
01:42:14 I would say society and,
01:42:16 and,
01:42:17 and culture has changed so much to the point where the various things that necessitated that kind of,
01:42:25 an approach to young marriages have changed,
01:42:31 you know,
01:42:31 too significantly to just directly culture.
01:42:36 I think that's directly proportionate to the amount of sexual perversion we have in the West.
01:42:41 So I would say that the age thing isn't really,
01:42:44 uh,
01:42:46 uh,
01:42:47 a set age in a place where they don't have the level of sexual perversion that we have in the West.
01:42:52 The reason it matters in the West is because if you are under that certain age,
01:42:56 it definitely is based off of a perversion,
01:43:00 you know,
01:43:01 a sort of demonic behavior rather than back then when they used to get married at 13 to an 18,
01:43:07 it was about connecting the families.
01:43:10 You know,
01:43:10 it was about having a,
01:43:11 a pure woman to,
01:43:13 to,
01:43:14 uh,
01:43:14 to,
01:43:15 to create a new bloodline with that kind of thing.
01:43:18 So.
01:43:19 Right.
01:43:19 And the ultimate point is that the age of marriage is better than having an age of consent.
01:43:23 There shouldn't be the concept of age of consent because it advocates for people to have premarital sex. 0.99
01:43:28 So that's the overall point.
01:43:29 I obviously people are,
01:43:30 you know,
01:43:30 the liberals don't understand it or they don't want to understand it.
01:43:33 So they're going to throw accusations,
01:43:34 but ultimately like that's what prevent,
01:43:36 prevents girls from getting, 0.97
01:43:37 you know, 0.99
01:43:38 mistreated and taken advantage of because guys just want to have premarital sex with them. 1.00
01:43:42 But Arab, 0.99
01:43:42 I didn't want you to forget your point.
01:43:43 Um,
01:43:44 let's go back to what we were saying.
01:43:45 I want to go back to that point where we're speaking about.
01:43:48 Well,
01:43:48 hold on,
01:43:49 hold on.
01:43:49 Pause,
01:43:49 pause,
01:43:50 pause.
01:43:50 Arab,
01:43:50 how long you've been a Christian,
01:43:51 bro?
01:43:52 I've been a Christian my whole life,
01:43:54 but I went about six years where I was chasing the fame and the materialistic stuff that I stopped praying as much.
01:44:01 You know,
01:44:01 I was focused on.
01:44:03 I'm sorry.
01:44:04 Just for the record,
01:44:04 this is sparkling water.
01:44:05 I don't want anyone thinking I'm drinking beer or anything like that on stream,
01:44:09 but yeah.
01:44:09 Well,
01:44:10 even,
01:44:10 even if you were,
01:44:11 it wouldn't be my position to judge.
01:44:13 Yeah,
01:44:14 there's a powerful verse.
01:44:15 Yeah,
01:44:15 but there's a powerful verse,
01:44:16 but I won't pull these up during,
01:44:19 you know,
01:44:19 our arguments,
01:44:20 but there's a powerful verse that stuck with me and it's,
01:44:22 uh,
01:44:22 why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye,
01:44:25 but do not notice the log in your own eye?
01:44:27 Or how can you say to your neighbor friend,
01:44:29 let me take out the speck in your eye when you yourself do not see the log in your own?
01:44:33 You know,
01:44:33 a very,
01:44:34 very powerful verse that we,
01:44:36 we tend to judge often instead of looking inwards and looking at our own problems.
01:44:40 Uh,
01:44:41 we humans do that a lot.
01:44:43 So even if you had a beer,
01:44:44 bro,
01:44:45 do you man between you and God?
01:44:48 Yeah,
01:44:48 no,
01:44:48 I don't think it's a sin.
01:44:51 Um,
01:44:51 the Bible,
01:44:52 I don't think the Bible teaches a sin,
01:44:53 just the mere consumption of any amount of alcohol.
01:44:57 But,
01:44:58 you know,
01:44:58 I personally don't drink and I wanted to make that clear because I know that I have to set an example with my conduct.
01:45:06 And,
01:45:07 um,
01:45:07 I'm not saying I would never drink in certain settings,
01:45:10 maybe like a family get together.
01:45:12 I'm a Christian,
01:45:13 not a Muslim. 1.00
01:45:14 I know Muslims have a very hard,
01:45:15 uh,
01:45:16 stance when it comes to alcohol.
01:45:19 Um,
01:45:19 but I don't drink recreationally.
01:45:21 I don't have any alcohol in my house.
01:45:23 I don't,
01:45:24 you know,
01:45:24 anything like that.
01:45:26 Um,
01:45:26 if I,
01:45:27 you know,
01:45:28 I'm at my mother's 60th birthday and someone pours a glass of champagne for me,
01:45:33 will I drink it?
01:45:33 Yeah,
01:45:34 I have no problem with that,
01:45:35 but I'm not a,
01:45:36 I'm not a drinker.
01:45:37 So that,
01:45:38 that,
01:45:38 that,
01:45:38 that this point of,
01:45:39 of comparing the,
01:45:41 uh,
01:45:42 leaders of the,
01:45:43 of the religions.
01:45:46 Yeah,
01:45:46 I get what you,
01:45:47 young Don,
01:45:47 you think that this is a three view one Arab said that we shouldn't be speaking to,
01:45:51 uh,
01:45:51 I spoke to this other Christian girl the other day,
01:45:53 Demi and Arab tweeted publicly saying like,
01:45:55 Oh,
01:45:56 look at you bullying.
01:45:57 And so I told him before,
01:45:58 like,
01:45:58 let's have a discussion.
01:45:59 He wanted to speak to muscle lantern.
01:46:00 He knows Warner.
01:46:01 So this is not a three V one debate.
01:46:03 We just,
01:46:03 we wanted to talk and Arab was willing to don't,
01:46:05 this is not a,
01:46:06 we're not coming here.
01:46:07 Um,
01:46:08 jumping him.
01:46:09 Yeah.
01:46:09 We're conversing.
01:46:10 We're conversing.
01:46:11 Because shortly before I came on,
01:46:14 shortly before I came on,
01:46:15 you,
01:46:16 you held up the Bible and you said you're new to this religious stuff,
01:46:19 but then you,
01:46:19 no,
01:46:19 I'm not new to this religious stuff.
01:46:21 No,
01:46:21 no,
01:46:22 I'm,
01:46:22 I'm recently,
01:46:23 uh,
01:46:23 very devout.
01:46:26 Okay.
01:46:26 All right.
01:46:26 So you've,
01:46:27 I was very devout as,
01:46:29 as a kid,
01:46:29 I was very devout.
01:46:30 I went through a six year period where I was chasing the wrong things.
01:46:34 And then I had a very life changing moment where I saw the devil with my own eyes.
01:46:39 Okay.
01:46:39 Well,
01:46:41 let me,
01:46:41 I just wanted to come in and pump the brakes and say,
01:46:45 bro,
01:46:46 I,
01:46:47 you know,
01:46:47 the Bible actually tells us that we can do more harm than good.
01:46:53 If we try to engage in these kinds of conversations,
01:46:56 not being,
01:46:58 you know,
01:46:59 fully prepared,
01:47:00 not being fully educated on all the things.
01:47:03 And so I think it's possible.
01:47:04 And I'm speaking from experience here.
01:47:06 You know,
01:47:07 you can do more harm than good engaging in this kind of conversation,
01:47:12 because I already witnessed,
01:47:13 you know,
01:47:14 a couple of back and forths where,
01:47:16 you know,
01:47:17 he gave you some layups and you didn't make them.
01:47:20 And so,
01:47:20 of course,
01:47:21 that's,
01:47:22 and that's from what you've studied,
01:47:24 but I'm here for a mental exercise.
01:47:26 I just want to take in their points and be able to,
01:47:28 you have to realize more than just your,
01:47:32 this debate is at stake,
01:47:34 right?
01:47:34 Let's say this,
01:47:35 you do poorly in this debate and then Muhammad or what was the other brother's name?
01:47:40 This is the Warner.
01:47:42 One more time.
01:47:43 The Warner comes to Warner,
01:47:45 right?
01:47:46 Yes.
01:47:46 The Warner,
01:47:47 let's say they do a,
01:47:48 they catch you.
01:47:48 They do a slam dunk.
01:47:50 You might've just said some Muslim back one, 1.00
01:47:53 two,
01:47:54 three more years from converting to Christianity.
01:47:56 Do you want that?
01:47:58 Don,
01:47:58 Don,
01:47:59 Don,
01:47:59 Don,
01:48:00 Don,
01:48:01 we're having a conversation,
01:48:02 bro.
01:48:02 Yeah.
01:48:03 Can I say something?
01:48:03 If you're going to come into this conversation and you're going to have an issue with me trying to strengthen my faith.
01:48:08 Yeah.
01:48:08 And understand the counterpoints that people are going to have against me.
01:48:11 Then maybe,
01:48:13 I want to say something.
01:48:14 We shouldn't both be in the same discord call right now.
01:48:17 Yeah.
01:48:17 I just want to say something.
01:48:17 I'm here for exercise,
01:48:19 right?
01:48:20 Can I turn back and say something?
01:48:21 Right,
01:48:21 bro.
01:48:22 Oh yeah,
01:48:23 there will be times.
01:48:25 Okay.
01:48:25 Hold up, 0.90
01:48:26 hold up.
01:48:26 One second,
01:48:27 one second,
01:48:28 one second.
01:48:28 So the plan for this discourse happened,
01:48:31 I'd rather there be some kind of,
01:48:33 you know,
01:48:33 a little bit of back and forth between us.
01:48:36 Then you continue to have this conversation ill prepared,
01:48:42 bro.
01:48:43 Okay.
01:48:43 Can I,
01:48:43 can I say something?
01:48:44 So the original plan for the stream was to speak with Arab,
01:48:47 you know,
01:48:47 as a friend,
01:48:48 Muslim lantern likes Arab. 0.74
01:48:49 We like each other.
01:48:50 We're,
01:48:50 we're friends conversing,
01:48:51 right?
01:48:51 Okay.
01:48:52 I want to let a Muslim lantern chime in. 0.99
01:48:53 And the original plan was to speak to young Don,
01:48:56 was to speak to you one-on-one.
01:48:57 Just,
01:48:58 just me like it with no other,
01:49:00 no three V one situation like that.
01:49:02 It was just,
01:49:02 just going to be that.
01:49:03 And then you texted me and you said you wanted to come in and like,
01:49:06 that it was a three V one,
01:49:08 but what?
01:49:08 Yeah.
01:49:09 So I just want to say like very,
01:49:10 very few points.
01:49:12 First is like,
01:49:13 when you say come to this prepared,
01:49:15 it kind of makes it seem as if like,
01:49:17 we're coming to do a specific task with an agenda,
01:49:19 et cetera.
01:49:20 If you ask Nico,
01:49:21 we're coming in the car for instance,
01:49:22 and then I mentioned to him that I saw the tweet,
01:49:24 they said,
01:49:25 let's have a discussion.
01:49:25 He said,
01:49:25 do you want to do it?
01:49:26 I said,
01:49:26 yeah,
01:49:27 let's text him.
01:49:27 Literally,
01:49:28 we,
01:49:28 we walked from there.
01:49:29 We came here.
01:49:30 He started the stream,
01:49:30 right?
01:49:31 This is not like a,
01:49:32 a plan.
01:49:33 Arab wanted to have a discussion.
01:49:35 That's why he made that tweet.
01:49:36 And based on that,
01:49:37 I said,
01:49:37 let's have a chat with him.
01:49:38 So we're willing to have chats.
01:49:40 Second thing,
01:49:40 Christians always talk in the chat. 0.99
01:49:43 When we have a discussion with someone that you guys are not bringing any,
01:49:46 someone knowledge.
01:49:47 When the minute we bring someone,
01:49:48 you,
01:49:48 you came in and you said,
01:49:49 don't talk to them.
01:49:50 So we don't know really what to do,
01:49:51 right?
01:49:52 Do you guys want to have a chat?
01:49:53 I'm not,
01:49:54 I'm not the person.
01:49:55 If you,
01:49:56 you know,
01:49:56 if you guys,
01:49:57 Nico,
01:49:57 if you actually want to have a productive,
01:49:59 wait,
01:50:01 if you want it,
01:50:02 if you want to actually have a productive conversation between,
01:50:05 like your,
01:50:06 your Muslim brethren who seem to be,
01:50:08 you know,
01:50:08 have been in their faith for some time and are knowledgeable,
01:50:12 you know,
01:50:12 I got guys that can have a real,
01:50:16 okay.
01:50:17 Okay.
01:50:17 But Don,
01:50:18 we weren't coming into this with a debate attitude,
01:50:19 right?
01:50:20 First we educated this girl.
01:50:22 Demi said, 0.85
01:50:22 can you educate me on Islam?
01:50:23 She's a Christian.
01:50:24 She asked me.
01:50:25 And so we spoke.
01:50:26 And then Arab said,
01:50:27 why are you bullying her?
01:50:28 So now we're speaking to Arab.
01:50:30 Arab thought that she was unprepared.
01:50:31 So we're going to speak to him.
01:50:32 And then Don comes in and says,
01:50:33 Arab's unprepared. 1.00
01:50:34 And then Arab says, 0.65
01:50:35 so where are we going to go?
01:50:36 Are we going to go to the Pope?
01:50:37 Like how many people do we need to,
01:50:39 like,
01:50:39 we can just,
01:50:40 we can just have a conversation.
01:50:43 I'm here to have a conversation.
01:50:44 Yes.
01:50:45 And Arab is his own. 0.98
01:50:46 Look,
01:50:48 you're a man,
01:50:48 you're free will.
01:50:49 You can do whatever you want.
01:50:50 I'm just saying.
01:50:51 Thank you.
01:50:52 As one Christian to another, 1.00
01:50:55 as somebody who's been doing this online,
01:50:58 probably a little bit longer than you.
01:51:00 Right.
01:51:01 As someone who's seen the,
01:51:03 you know,
01:51:04 what can come up this?
01:51:05 I'm just saying,
01:51:06 like,
01:51:07 this isn't,
01:51:08 if you want to have that,
01:51:09 and if you wanted to have this conversation in private,
01:51:11 I'd say,
01:51:12 do it all day.
01:51:13 You know,
01:51:13 but you have thousands of,
01:51:14 impressionable people watching thousands of soul words.
01:51:17 I have,
01:51:18 I have,
01:51:18 I have a just,
01:51:19 you have people on the fence.
01:51:21 You don't want to do it.
01:51:23 And,
01:51:23 and,
01:51:23 and,
01:51:24 and who are you to decide that if,
01:51:26 if let's say I do fumble a,
01:51:28 a response that I can't respond to,
01:51:30 who are you to decide that that has more negative versus positive effect?
01:51:34 How do you know how the viewers react?
01:51:35 You're being the judge right now.
01:51:37 I just want to say.
01:51:38 You're being the judge.
01:51:39 I just read you a verse.
01:51:40 Well,
01:51:41 here,
01:51:41 the Bible says that someone.
01:51:42 I just read you a verse where Jesus,
01:51:44 he's preaches to not.
01:51:45 I can read you a verse where the Bible clearly says that new converts are not allowed to teach.
01:51:51 I'm not a new convert.
01:51:52 He's not teaching.
01:51:53 He's not here to teach.
01:51:54 He's having a conversation.
01:51:55 I'm not a new convert.
01:51:56 I'm by no means a scholar,
01:51:57 but I'm not a new convert,
01:51:59 bro.
01:51:59 I went to Catholic school.
01:52:01 I went to church multiple times,
01:52:02 multiple times a week.
01:52:06 I've been praying for a long,
01:52:07 long time.
01:52:08 I used to want to be a priest as a kid.
01:52:10 I just fell into the wrong things for a short amount of time.
01:52:13 So I'm back and I'm here to strengthen my faith.
01:52:15 And yeah,
01:52:15 sure.
01:52:15 There will be views on this,
01:52:17 but there's going to be a lot of views about Christians fighting now because you came in and you did this.
01:52:23 I got home Christian versus Christian. 0.99
01:52:26 Turn around while the three Muslims watch. 1.00
01:52:28 Like we haven't even gotten to the point to be able to speak at each other because you hopped in here for us to be 3v2 and it said you 4v1.
01:52:36 Nah,
01:52:37 it's not 4v1,
01:52:38 bro.
01:52:38 I'm just telling you to pump the brakes,
01:52:41 bro.
01:52:41 I'm just telling you to pump the brakes.
01:52:44 You know,
01:52:44 me and Sneeko had a conversation lined up and so that's why I wanted to come in here.
01:52:50 But yeah,
01:52:50 Don,
01:52:50 I'll speak to you.
01:52:51 If you want to go ahead and debate these guys,
01:52:55 bro,
01:52:56 go ahead.
01:52:56 We're not debating.
01:52:57 Don,
01:52:58 is it okay?
01:52:59 Can I call you in a bit for the one-on-one of combo?
01:53:01 I do want to speak to you.
01:53:02 I have my interview questions prepared for you.
01:53:05 All right.
01:53:05 Sure thing.
01:53:06 Sure thing.
01:53:06 Okay.
01:53:06 I'll recall you in about 30 minutes.
01:53:08 Is that a 30,
01:53:09 45?
01:53:09 Is that okay?
01:53:10 Yeah.
01:53:11 Yeah.
01:53:11 Go ahead.
01:53:11 Yeah.
01:53:12 Before you're moving,
01:53:12 please.
01:53:13 One second.
01:53:13 Yeah.
01:53:13 Because I just don't want to say anything after he leaves about him.
01:53:16 I want to say it when he's here.
01:53:17 Okay.
01:53:18 Yeah.
01:53:19 Like with all due respect,
01:53:20 I don't know you.
01:53:21 I don't,
01:53:21 we didn't speak before,
01:53:22 right?
01:53:23 You have had an interaction.
01:53:25 I know with Sheikh Othman.
01:53:26 If it did not go the way you want it to go,
01:53:28 but that doesn't mean that every Muslim is trying to do the same thing.
01:53:31 And I'm saying that with respect to you.
01:53:32 I understand you came and I understand your perspective.
01:53:35 You came,
01:53:35 you're looking out for Arab.
01:53:36 You don't want the same thing that happened to happen again,
01:53:38 right?
01:53:39 I completely get that.
01:53:40 That's not what we're doing here.
01:53:41 I'm having a discussion,
01:53:42 a very nice discussion with Arab.
01:53:44 We're chatting.
01:53:45 He's allowing me to speak.
01:53:46 I'm allowing him to speak.
01:53:47 If you compare the discussion you had with the discussion we're having,
01:53:50 you'll see the difference.
01:53:51 Just have a look after.
01:53:52 It's a discussion where someone speaks about what he believes and I speak about what I believe.
01:53:55 And what Arab is saying is literally what every Christian says. 0.93
01:53:58 It doesn't matter what his level of knowledge.
01:54:00 He will also always come with the idea that 100% man,
01:54:03 100% God,
01:54:04 coming to show the world.
01:54:05 You will say the same thing,
01:54:06 I believe,
01:54:06 right?
01:54:07 You wouldn't disagree with me that you will make these same exact points,
01:54:09 right?
01:54:10 These are not wrong points.
01:54:11 No,
01:54:11 yeah,
01:54:11 I would disagree with you.
01:54:14 I would disagree with you.
01:54:14 Okay,
01:54:15 so I think I can prove,
01:54:17 I think I can prove that your opinion right here is mistaken by bringing on one of my several
01:54:23 friends who specializes in Muslim and Christian debates.
01:54:28 But in the beginning of,
01:54:29 by the way,
01:54:30 of the stream,
01:54:30 we already made some kind of call outs,
01:54:33 if you know,
01:54:34 whatever term you want to use,
01:54:35 to the people that always the Christian community speaks about, 0.94
01:54:38 right?
01:54:38 So it's not like we are saying,
01:54:40 let's not talk to about,
01:54:41 to the guys that have been talking against Islam,
01:54:43 really,
01:54:43 and I'm not going to say for Christianity,
01:54:45 even talking about against Islam for years,
01:54:47 we can have a discussion with them as well.
01:54:49 But right now,
01:54:49 Arab made the tweet. 0.88
01:54:50 I want to have a chat with him.
01:54:51 He wants to have a chat with us.
01:54:52 We're having a nice time.
01:54:54 And that's it.
01:54:55 That's what I'm going to say,
01:54:56 right?
01:54:56 So I appreciate you coming in,
01:54:58 and I can see that you're coming out of love.
01:55:00 And I'm saying that with respect to you.
01:55:02 And you can look at the discussion.
01:55:03 It's going to be a chat.
01:55:05 And I might make mistakes in what I say.
01:55:07 Anyone can make mistakes.
01:55:08 We're not perfect.
01:55:09 And that's it.
01:55:10 We'll have a chat with Arab.
01:55:11 And there's no winners or losers.
01:55:12 He made that point.
01:55:13 We're having a discussion.
01:55:14 I told him it's a fair point.
01:55:15 It's not about winning and losing.
01:55:16 It's about having a discussion and engagement.
01:55:18 He's thinking about things.
01:55:19 He wants to experiment with other people from other faiths.
01:55:21 And we'll have a nice chat.
01:55:22 That's it.
01:55:24 All right.
01:55:25 Yeah, like I said,
01:55:26 yeah,
01:55:26 I don't know who it is that you called out before.
01:55:29 But if you are serious about having,
01:55:31 yeah,
01:55:32 if you are serious about having a serious conversation
01:55:34 with a Christian apologist
01:55:36 who specializes in having these kind of dialogues,
01:55:39 I can bring somebody on,
01:55:41 you know,
01:55:41 somebody that could give a guy like Adam some assistance.
01:55:45 You know what I mean?
01:55:45 Yeah,
01:55:46 we did,
01:55:46 as I said,
01:55:47 made a call out.
01:55:48 He mentioned the name to you as well right now.
01:55:51 And that is what all of the people in the comments.
01:55:53 That's one person.
01:55:54 I wasn't even thinking about Sam Shmoun.
01:55:55 Okay,
01:55:56 is that person good?
01:55:57 Or do you,
01:55:57 or do you,
01:55:58 or is not good?
01:56:00 From your perspective?
01:56:00 Oh,
01:56:00 Sam Shmoun,
01:56:01 Sam Shmoun is an excellent debate.
01:56:02 Okay,
01:56:03 that's it.
01:56:03 So,
01:56:03 we made a call out.
01:56:05 It's good for him.
01:56:05 We have that discussion.
01:56:06 We can have that discussion.
01:56:07 If he agrees.
01:56:08 I'm not,
01:56:08 I'm not proud.
01:56:09 I said I wasn't thinking about Sam Shmoun.
01:56:12 No,
01:56:13 but if it works,
01:56:13 it works,
01:56:14 it doesn't have to be a specific person.
01:56:15 You know,
01:56:16 right?
01:56:16 Sam Shmoun,
01:56:17 look,
01:56:17 Sam Shmoun is,
01:56:18 he is his own person.
01:56:20 You feel me?
01:56:21 And I don't know what he's doing.
01:56:22 He could be spending time with his children right now.
01:56:24 So,
01:56:24 just because you call out,
01:56:26 you drop Sam Shmoun's name.
01:56:27 Well,
01:56:28 we'll do it at a certain time.
01:56:29 We don't need to do it right now.
01:56:30 Today,
01:56:30 we're speaking to Arab.
01:56:31 Another day,
01:56:31 we'll speak to whoever.
01:56:33 And then we'll,
01:56:33 early in the stream,
01:56:34 this guy,
01:56:35 Jay Day,
01:56:35 wanted to speak.
01:56:36 And he was on a public Twitter space.
01:56:37 Every time we speak to a Christian, 1.00
01:56:39 they always bring out someone else.
01:56:40 There's always like a new character popping up.
01:56:42 Like,
01:56:42 it's hard to speak to one without,
01:56:44 you know,
01:56:45 going to another person.
01:56:46 But we're willing to have the conversations,
01:56:47 just one at a time.
01:56:50 Yeah,
01:56:51 certainly.
01:56:51 I was just standing on biblical principles.
01:56:54 You know,
01:56:54 somebody who has not been appointed to a position of authority,
01:56:58 really should not be engaging in these kinds of discourses.
01:57:02 And so that's,
01:57:03 well,
01:57:03 neither are we.
01:57:04 We're not positions of authority.
01:57:05 That's what you believe.
01:57:06 We're not positions of authority either.
01:57:08 I think,
01:57:09 I think,
01:57:10 I think that someone can engage in conversation in order to learn.
01:57:14 No,
01:57:14 that's not what this is,
01:57:16 bro.
01:57:16 You have to understand you're on a public platform in front of thousands of
01:57:19 people.
01:57:20 If you want to engage in a conversation with somebody,
01:57:22 I encourage you to do that all day.
01:57:25 But look,
01:57:26 I didn't come on here.
01:57:27 Look,
01:57:27 I didn't come on here to war with you.
01:57:29 If you feel strongly about this, 0.89
01:57:32 I was really just coming to shoot you some bail,
01:57:36 maybe transition this conversation to the conversation that I had planned to
01:57:41 have with sneaker. 0.76
01:57:42 But look,
01:57:42 bro,
01:57:42 if you want to keep going three V one against these guys,
01:57:46 you know,
01:57:47 you're,
01:57:48 you're,
01:57:48 you're,
01:57:48 it's not three V one.
01:57:49 It's four V one right now.
01:57:51 It's four V one.
01:57:52 It's not,
01:57:52 it's not four.
01:57:53 You join in and Lantern hasn't,
01:57:56 Lantern hasn't even had a chance at all.
01:57:58 It's been 15 minutes of you going in at me,
01:58:01 bro.
01:58:01 Here's the difference between these guys and what's happening between me and you
01:58:08 right now.
01:58:09 as a fellow Christian,
01:58:11 I'm just trying to publicly give you,
01:58:15 you know,
01:58:16 some brotherly feedback as believers in Jesus Christ.
01:58:20 These guys are trying to tear down the faith of Christ.
01:58:23 These guys are trying to destroy the beliefs of Christians, 1.00
01:58:29 trying to continue to embolden and, 0.60
01:58:32 and strengthen the beliefs of Muslims.
01:58:35 That's,
01:58:35 that's what that was.
01:58:37 But I haven't attacked your character.
01:58:39 You know,
01:58:40 I'm glad you're a Christian,
01:58:41 but like I said,
01:58:43 bro,
01:58:43 if you want to continue this debate,
01:58:46 I'll,
01:58:46 I'll bow out,
01:58:48 bro.
01:58:48 Donna,
01:58:48 I'll call you in about 30.
01:58:50 I'll call you enough 30,
01:58:52 45.
01:58:52 Okay.
01:58:55 Yeah.
01:58:55 Yeah.
01:58:55 Go ahead,
01:58:56 bro.
01:58:57 I'll,
01:58:57 I'll talk to you in a bit.
01:58:58 All right.
01:59:01 Okay.
01:59:02 Anyway.
01:59:03 Okay.
01:59:03 Before we start,
01:59:04 before we start,
01:59:05 let's repeat the point for the new viewers.
01:59:24 our,
01:59:25 our last point that was that I brought up that when you compare the,
01:59:29 the leaders or the prophets of both religions,
01:59:32 uh,
01:59:33 the people who spoke the law,
01:59:36 the people who spoke the word of God.
01:59:38 So Muhammad versus Jesus Christ, 0.96
01:59:40 you see that Jesus Christ is a very,
01:59:43 uh,
01:59:45 forgiving,
01:59:46 you know,
01:59:47 he preaches forgiveness.
01:59:48 He preaches,
01:59:49 uh,
01:59:50 not harming other people.
01:59:51 He,
01:59:52 he never sinned.
01:59:53 You know,
01:59:53 he,
01:59:54 he,
01:59:54 he never lusted.
01:59:55 He,
01:59:56 he never enacted wrath.
01:59:59 Whereas when you look at somebody like Muhammad, 1.00
02:00:02 you see someone who waged multiple wars,
02:00:04 who very often gave into,
02:00:06 uh,
02:00:08 I would say lustful desires.
02:00:10 You might argue it as not lustful desires because it was through marriage.
02:00:13 You know,
02:00:14 he had 32 wives if I'm not mistaken.
02:00:16 No,
02:00:16 no,
02:00:17 um,
02:00:17 and I don't know how many,
02:00:19 I don't know how many,
02:00:21 but I,
02:00:22 I remember seeing it.
02:00:23 You'll correct me.
02:00:24 Yeah,
02:00:24 it's fine.
02:00:25 Like I said,
02:00:25 I'm not super 100% on the facts as you would be.
02:00:28 Um,
02:00:29 and,
02:00:30 and also,
02:00:31 mutha marriages,
02:00:34 for example,
02:00:35 uh,
02:00:37 yeah.
02:00:37 Okay.
02:00:37 So those don't really ring the right way either.
02:00:39 Yeah.
02:00:39 These are the points you mentioned before.
02:00:41 Uh,
02:00:42 yeah.
02:00:43 So,
02:00:43 uh,
02:00:44 we just like,
02:00:45 uh,
02:00:45 talked about this idea of comparison,
02:00:46 but we'll,
02:00:47 we'll get into it now.
02:00:48 So I asked you a question,
02:00:49 which I think is,
02:00:50 is just sufficient for me.
02:00:52 Uh,
02:00:52 it's all I want as a Muslim essentially is what,
02:00:55 when I said,
02:00:56 does these things disqualify him from being a prophet in your belief?
02:00:59 And you said no,
02:01:00 because in our tradition,
02:01:02 all,
02:01:02 all what we're,
02:01:03 what Muslims are saying is that prophet Muhammad is a messenger of God.
02:01:05 Right.
02:01:06 And we don't like to look at this,
02:01:07 uh,
02:01:08 as like a,
02:01:09 a competition between two prophets or messengers.
02:01:11 Do you know what I'm saying?
02:01:13 So if someone were to say,
02:01:13 I believe prophet Muhammad was a prophet and Jesus was a prophet and Moses, 0.91
02:01:16 I would say,
02:01:17 okay,
02:01:17 exactly.
02:01:17 That's what Islam is.
02:01:18 Right.
02:01:18 So it's a problem when someone says that this,
02:01:21 uh,
02:01:21 is not a prophet because of these things.
02:01:23 Then,
02:01:24 because,
02:01:24 no,
02:01:24 no,
02:01:24 no,
02:01:25 no,
02:01:25 I don't think that disqualifies anyone from being a prophet.
02:01:28 I think,
02:01:29 I think when you compare what,
02:01:32 what is being a Christian,
02:01:33 being a Christian is following in the path of Christ.
02:01:35 It's,
02:01:36 it's what we believe as the perfect human,
02:01:39 the perfect human came down. 0.50
02:01:41 God says someone is the perfect human to give us an example of how we should act.
02:01:46 Okay.
02:01:46 And when I look,
02:01:47 when I look at Jesus Christ,
02:01:50 someone who we,
02:01:51 uh,
02:01:51 you won't agree,
02:01:52 but you just said pure.
02:01:53 So it's,
02:01:54 but that we would say never sinned.
02:01:56 Right.
02:01:57 Okay.
02:01:57 That's what the perfect human is.
02:01:59 That's what we should act, 1.00
02:02:00 but we all fucking suck. 1.00
02:02:01 So we fail anyway. 1.00
02:02:02 Okay.
02:02:02 So,
02:02:03 so,
02:02:03 uh,
02:02:03 the idea of being sinless,
02:02:05 uh,
02:02:06 I'm going to also respond to the points you made about prophet Muhammad in a minute.
02:02:09 But the thing is this according to the Bible,
02:02:11 there's other people who are also sinless,
02:02:12 not only Jesus.
02:02:14 So if you say just,
02:02:15 if someone is a perfect human being,
02:02:17 Jesus is unique because he did not commit any sin.
02:02:19 According to the Bible,
02:02:20 there's other people who didn't commit sin.
02:02:22 If you open,
02:02:22 for example,
02:02:23 a gospel of Luke,
02:02:24 uh,
02:02:24 verse number six,
02:02:25 it talks about,
02:02:26 uh,
02:02:26 Elizabeth and Zachariah,
02:02:28 mother and father of,
02:02:29 of John the Baptist.
02:02:30 First number six or,
02:02:31 or,
02:02:32 or book six?
02:02:33 No,
02:02:33 Luke,
02:02:34 the beginning of Luke.
02:02:35 I was on it actually.
02:02:37 It's,
02:02:37 it's,
02:02:37 it's funny.
02:02:38 verse number six.
02:02:40 What does it say?
02:02:40 Cause I'm,
02:02:41 I'm on Luke six.
02:02:42 Allah will be. 0.87
02:02:43 Allah will be. 0.87
02:02:43 This is the size of your,
02:02:45 I was going to say,
02:02:45 right?
02:02:46 It talks about Zachariah.
02:02:47 By the way,
02:02:47 fresh and fit.
02:02:48 Thank you for the read.
02:02:49 Yeah.
02:02:49 It talks about John the Baptist.
02:02:51 Is it,
02:02:51 is it verse six or book six you're talking about?
02:02:53 No,
02:02:53 no,
02:02:53 verse six.
02:02:55 Okay.
02:02:55 Luke one,
02:02:56 verse six.
02:02:57 Yes.
02:02:59 Right.
02:03:00 Go on.
02:03:01 It talks about Zachariah and,
02:03:02 and Elizabeth.
02:03:03 And it says that they walked in all the commandments of God and they,
02:03:06 and they walked blamelessly.
02:03:07 So there was no blame at all.
02:03:09 They followed all the commandments perfectly.
02:03:11 And sin is to break the law,
02:03:12 to break the commandments.
02:03:13 If you did not break the law,
02:03:15 then you are sinless by default.
02:03:16 So I'm saying if Jesus,
02:03:17 even if we were to accept basically the argument,
02:03:19 because I told you in the Quran,
02:03:20 this wording is not used,
02:03:21 but even if we were to accept it,
02:03:23 according to the Christian tradition,
02:03:24 he's not the only one.
02:03:25 So it's not even a unique in that sense.
02:03:27 Okay.
02:03:28 We're not saying that that's the only thing that makes him God,
02:03:31 right?
02:03:31 He fulfilled many prophecies as well.
02:03:33 Sure.
02:03:33 We can do offices.
02:03:35 Yes.
02:03:35 From the original NGO.
02:03:36 Yes.
02:03:37 We can talk about that.
02:03:38 No problem.
02:03:38 We can talk about the prophecies.
02:03:39 Right.
02:03:39 But I won't profit.
02:03:40 Muhammad first. 1.00
02:03:41 Uh,
02:03:41 peace be upon him.
02:03:42 First.
02:03:42 Yeah.
02:03:42 Yeah.
02:03:42 Let's,
02:03:42 let's go to that point.
02:03:43 Yeah.
02:03:43 Yeah.
02:03:43 See,
02:03:44 peace be,
02:03:44 you see what I'm saying?
02:03:45 Like you said,
02:03:45 he's not the leader.
02:03:47 Jesus.
02:03:48 We say peace be upon all the prophets,
02:03:50 all the prophets.
02:03:51 Even when we mentioned Jesus and we see him being disrespected,
02:03:53 we say peace be upon him too.
02:03:54 So Allah says in the Quran,
02:03:56 peace be upon everyone who follows the guidance.
02:04:00 Allah also says,
02:04:01 peace be upon the messengers.
02:04:02 Generally.
02:04:03 So when we say peace be upon them,
02:04:05 generally all of the messengers of God,
02:04:06 we use the same term for Jesus,
02:04:08 for Moses,
02:04:08 for Noah,
02:04:09 for Abraham.
02:04:10 That's not unique to Prophet Muhammad,
02:04:11 right?
02:04:12 I was just saying leader.
02:04:14 I just wanted to understand your idea of what you mean by leader.
02:04:16 But Prophet Muhammad, 0.86
02:04:17 when you say mercy,
02:04:20 you talk about merciful and talk about mercy,
02:04:22 right?
02:04:23 Have you read like,
02:04:24 for example,
02:04:25 the life of Prophet Muhammad,
02:04:26 what he did,
02:04:26 what he didn't do,
02:04:27 how he lived his life.
02:04:28 I'll give you one example,
02:04:29 a very simple example.
02:04:31 Prophet Muhammad, 0.91
02:04:31 spent 13 years in Mecca,
02:04:33 in the beginning of his messenger.
02:04:37 Okay.
02:04:37 When he was telling people about God,
02:04:38 he spent 13 years in Mecca.
02:04:40 The pagan Arabs tortured him in every way you can imagine. 1.00
02:04:43 They killed his companions. 0.96
02:04:45 They were about to kill him multiple times.
02:04:48 They persecuted him day and night.
02:04:51 And he was calling people to God.
02:04:53 Okay.
02:04:54 This is what Prophet Muhammad,
02:04:55 was doing all of that time.
02:04:57 There was no calling to arm.
02:04:58 Allah did not give the Prophet, 0.99
02:04:59 the command to fight or do anything.
02:05:01 Then the Prophet left,
02:05:02 because of the persecution,
02:05:03 because they were plotting to kill him.
02:05:05 He left,
02:05:06 he went to Medina.
02:05:07 When Prophet Muhammad, 0.88
02:05:08 went to Medina,
02:05:09 when he came later on to conquest Mecca,
02:05:12 now,
02:05:12 because of course,
02:05:13 they left their homes,
02:05:14 they left their goods,
02:05:14 they left everything.
02:05:15 That's where they were born,
02:05:16 but they had to leave,
02:05:17 because they were going to die.
02:05:19 When he came back with an army of 10,000 people,
02:05:23 the people that have been persecuting you,
02:05:25 killing some of your loved ones and companions,
02:05:27 in front of your own eyes, 1.00
02:05:29 for 13 years,
02:05:30 you have them now,
02:05:31 you have a 10,000 people army,
02:05:33 and you have them as prisoners.
02:05:34 What are you going to do to them? 0.97
02:05:35 Not kill them. 0.99
02:05:40 Okay. 0.99
02:05:40 All right.
02:05:41 So,
02:05:42 what did Prophet Muhammad do?
02:05:44 He said,
02:05:45 no blame on you today,
02:05:47 and you're free.
02:05:49 And he let them go.
02:05:50 Now,
02:05:51 if we talk about mercy,
02:05:52 right?
02:05:53 This is the best manifestation
02:05:55 that you can talk about.
02:05:56 For sure.
02:05:57 One example.
02:05:58 Yes.
02:05:58 So,
02:05:58 if someone says,
02:05:59 and I can give many,
02:06:00 many,
02:06:00 many more,
02:06:00 right?
02:06:01 I was just giving Sneeko an example
02:06:02 of the man who entered the Masjid.
02:06:03 Can you give examples
02:06:04 where he slaughtered people?
02:06:06 Okay.
02:06:06 Let's talk about it.
02:06:07 You can give me an incident,
02:06:09 and then I can give you
02:06:10 the historical background behind.
02:06:11 Sorry.
02:06:11 Well,
02:06:12 you know the incident's better than me.
02:06:13 Like I said,
02:06:14 I'm not well versed.
02:06:15 I will read the Quran eventually.
02:06:17 I'll tell you something.
02:06:17 You would know one.
02:06:18 So,
02:06:18 can you give me an incident
02:06:19 where he slaughtered people?
02:06:20 Because he did,
02:06:20 right?
02:06:21 That's fine.
02:06:22 Prophet Muhammad himself,
02:06:23 with his own hands,
02:06:24 killed only one person
02:06:25 that we have a record of.
02:06:26 And that would surprise you.
02:06:27 He was the leader,
02:06:27 yes.
02:06:28 But the people that we have,
02:06:29 a report of him killing
02:06:30 is actually only one person.
02:06:31 And that individual said in wars,
02:06:33 was either I will die today
02:06:34 or Muhammad. 0.55
02:06:36 He said that.
02:06:37 So,
02:06:37 his aim in that war
02:06:39 was to find Prophet Muhammad
02:06:40 wherever he is.
02:06:41 And that's why he was killed
02:06:42 by the Prophet.
02:06:43 One person.
02:06:44 Okay?
02:06:45 Okay.
02:06:45 We talk about armies.
02:06:46 Now,
02:06:46 as I said,
02:06:47 we have to look at
02:06:48 which battle are you referring to,
02:06:49 et cetera.
02:06:49 Prophet Muhammad is not going around 0.98
02:06:51 killing people, 0.96
02:06:52 et cetera, 1.00
02:06:52 right?
02:06:52 When people say
02:06:53 Prophet Muhammad killed, 0.84
02:06:54 they usually talk about armies
02:06:55 or talk about battles
02:06:56 or talk about issues like that,
02:06:58 right?
02:06:58 But he waged those wars,
02:07:00 right?
02:07:01 Okay.
02:07:02 The overwhelming majority
02:07:04 of the wars that happened,
02:07:06 when I say overwhelming majority,
02:07:07 let's say nine from ten,
02:07:09 from the wars that happened
02:07:10 were defensive
02:07:10 at the time of the life
02:07:12 of the Prophet Muhammad,
02:07:12 if you're talking specifically
02:07:13 about Prophet Muhammad.
02:07:14 It was not offensive.
02:07:15 Badr,
02:07:15 the first one,
02:07:16 Uhud,
02:07:17 the second Badr,
02:07:18 Ahzab,
02:07:19 Khanda,
02:07:19 all of these
02:07:19 were defensive wars
02:07:21 because as I said to you,
02:07:22 these groups were trying
02:07:23 to kill the Prophet. 0.82
02:07:24 The Prophet, 0.99
02:07:25 as I told you,
02:07:25 left Medina,
02:07:26 they came to fight him.
02:07:27 Badr was the first battle.
02:07:28 It was 300
02:07:29 with the Prophet,
02:07:30 barely any weapons
02:07:31 and 10,000 of the disbelievers
02:07:32 with high equipment
02:07:34 and weapons
02:07:34 and they lost,
02:07:34 the disbelievers.
02:07:35 But they were trying
02:07:36 to kill the Prophet 0.98
02:07:37 and then you had Uhud 0.96
02:07:37 and then you had
02:07:38 all of these battles.
02:07:39 Literally,
02:07:40 the Prophet is defending himself
02:07:41 in Mecca
02:07:42 and Medina
02:07:43 from those people
02:07:43 who are trying
02:07:44 to eliminate him
02:07:45 completely from that region 0.79
02:07:46 because he's...
02:07:47 Eliminate him 1.00
02:07:48 and eliminate, 0.98
02:07:49 what,
02:07:49 the Word of God?
02:07:51 Yeah, 0.97
02:07:51 eliminate the followers, 0.84
02:07:52 the Word of God,
02:07:53 calling against...
02:07:53 Do you believe...
02:07:54 Yeah.
02:07:55 Do you believe God
02:07:55 needs you to fight for...
02:07:57 Do you believe God
02:07:58 needs you to defend him?
02:07:59 God doesn't need...
02:07:59 You don't think God...
02:08:01 Yeah.
02:08:01 You don't think God's
02:08:02 strong enough
02:08:02 to defend himself?
02:08:03 God doesn't need anyone
02:08:04 but God uses people
02:08:06 as means
02:08:06 to fulfill certain purposes.
02:08:08 God can use... 0.98
02:08:09 By slaughtering people. 0.99
02:08:11 Okay, 0.99
02:08:11 give me an example.
02:08:11 So far,
02:08:13 with all the respect
02:08:13 to you Arab,
02:08:14 you're a nice guy
02:08:15 but I like...
02:08:16 The thing about me
02:08:17 is I'm a facts guy.
02:08:18 So when someone says
02:08:19 the Prophet did this,
02:08:20 I give you a fact for instance
02:08:21 the Prophet only one person. 0.79
02:08:22 Yeah.
02:08:23 Right.
02:08:23 If you want to say
02:08:24 a Prophet was slaughtering people, 1.00
02:08:25 you have to give me examples.
02:08:26 Right?
02:08:26 You have to give me instances
02:08:27 and then I'll...
02:08:28 When you waged wars,
02:08:31 you said he waged wars.
02:08:32 I mean,
02:08:32 he might have not killed them 0.97
02:08:33 by himself with his hand 0.94
02:08:34 but like...
02:08:35 Okay.
02:08:35 Let's say I put out a...
02:08:36 Let's say I put out a hit
02:08:37 on someone.
02:08:37 Right?
02:08:38 Sure.
02:08:38 Let's say I put out a hit.
02:08:39 I pay someone $10,000 1.00
02:08:41 to kill somebody I don't like. 1.00
02:08:42 Sure. 1.00
02:08:43 They do it.
02:08:44 They do it.
02:08:45 Okay?
02:08:45 The trace is not to me.
02:08:47 Sure.
02:08:47 Is the blood on my hands?
02:08:49 Yes,
02:08:50 the blood is in your hand
02:08:51 but the question is...
02:08:52 The blood is on my hands.
02:08:53 Yeah,
02:08:53 yeah,
02:08:53 yes,
02:08:53 yes.
02:08:54 But the question is
02:08:55 did that person deserve punishment?
02:08:57 Are you saying
02:08:57 under any circumstances...
02:08:59 But you're...
02:08:59 You're enacting punishment
02:09:00 for God like that.
02:09:02 No,
02:09:02 I'm asking you a question.
02:09:02 It's not for us
02:09:03 to enact punishment
02:09:04 for the Lord.
02:09:05 Okay,
02:09:05 I'll ask you a question then.
02:09:07 In the Bible,
02:09:08 in the Old Testament,
02:09:09 when the Creator
02:09:10 directly commanded,
02:09:12 if you want to open
02:09:12 Numbers 31 verse 17,
02:09:14 direct command from God
02:09:16 or actually you can open
02:09:18 1 Samuel 15 verse 3.
02:09:19 I can give you multiple examples.
02:09:20 Direct command from God
02:09:22 not only to slaughter human beings 0.52
02:09:23 by infants and babies
02:09:24 and succulents
02:09:24 and sheep and cows.
02:09:26 And that's direct command
02:09:27 to a human being
02:09:28 to do that.
02:09:29 So what you're saying
02:09:30 is not in line
02:09:31 with what the Bible says.
02:09:32 Even the New Testament.
02:09:33 The end of Luke.
02:09:34 God was
02:09:34 God was much more wrathful
02:09:37 in the Old Testament.
02:09:38 Was it a different God?
02:09:39 In the New Testament
02:09:39 and the New Testament
02:09:41 and the New Testament
02:09:42 after he sends his son
02:09:43 Jesus Christ
02:09:43 to show us
02:09:45 what it's like
02:09:45 to be
02:09:46 a perfect human.
02:09:49 He preaches mercy.
02:09:50 He preaches
02:09:51 turning the other cheek.
02:09:53 Okay.
02:09:53 He preaches 0.99
02:09:54 when they come to kill me, 1.00
02:09:55 I will let them. 0.99
02:09:57 I won't fight them.
02:09:59 You know,
02:09:59 the disciples 0.88
02:10:00 slice someone's ear off 0.98
02:10:02 and he goes, 0.94
02:10:02 no.
02:10:03 Okay.
02:10:03 Let them take me.
02:10:04 You don't need to fight for me.
02:10:06 Sure.
02:10:07 You don't need to fight for God.
02:10:09 Yeah,
02:10:09 we preach,
02:10:11 we fight spiritually,
02:10:12 we say what we do,
02:10:13 but to physically
02:10:14 hurt people
02:10:15 and enact wrath,
02:10:17 that's not a work of God, bro.
02:10:19 That's the work of the devil.
02:10:21 So, 0.94
02:10:22 Arab,
02:10:22 I noticed you just noticed
02:10:23 that you said that
02:10:24 God created Jesus
02:10:25 as an example,
02:10:27 right?
02:10:29 God,
02:10:30 for us,
02:10:31 for us to follow,
02:10:32 right?
02:10:33 Yes,
02:10:33 for us to,
02:10:34 yeah,
02:10:34 exactly.
02:10:34 But it's an example
02:10:35 that we cannot follow.
02:10:36 To preach the word of God.
02:10:37 So he created an example
02:10:38 that humans will never
02:10:39 be able to follow.
02:10:40 That's what you're saying.
02:10:41 Because he's so perfect
02:10:43 that humans can never
02:10:44 be like Jesus
02:10:45 according to what
02:10:46 you guys believe,
02:10:47 right?
02:10:48 He sent Jesus
02:10:49 to show us,
02:10:51 one to save us
02:10:52 for our sins,
02:10:52 but to show us,
02:10:54 yes,
02:10:54 to show us
02:10:55 what it's like.
02:10:57 Okay,
02:10:57 so he's an example,
02:10:58 but we can't follow
02:10:59 that example.
02:11:00 Like,
02:11:01 are you following me
02:11:01 right now?
02:11:02 We can do our best
02:11:04 to follow in that light,
02:11:06 but we will fail 1.00
02:11:07 because we suck, 1.00
02:11:08 bro. 1.00
02:11:09 We're humans.
02:11:10 No,
02:11:10 I understand.
02:11:11 So he's an example.
02:11:12 We fall for the seven 0.99
02:11:12 deadly sins.
02:11:13 Yeah,
02:11:13 I understand.
02:11:14 The devil is much
02:11:15 smarter than us,
02:11:16 bro.
02:11:16 You can't outwit the devil
02:11:17 without the power of God.
02:11:18 In Islam,
02:11:19 we don't give power
02:11:21 to the devil.
02:11:22 We don't believe in that.
02:11:23 We say the devil's
02:11:24 very weak.
02:11:25 We don't say the devil's
02:11:26 powerful.
02:11:26 We don't do that.
02:11:27 Yeah,
02:11:28 we don't give power
02:11:29 to the devil.
02:11:29 So you said that,
02:11:30 okay,
02:11:30 so Jesus...
02:11:31 He's not stronger
02:11:33 than God.
02:11:34 Yeah,
02:11:35 we know that.
02:11:35 Okay,
02:11:36 so Jesus,
02:11:37 Jesus,
02:11:38 we see the devil
02:11:38 all the time.
02:11:39 Well,
02:11:39 one second there.
02:11:40 So,
02:11:40 okay,
02:11:40 Jesus is the example
02:11:41 to follow,
02:11:42 but we can't follow him
02:11:43 because he's too perfect.
02:11:44 Okay,
02:11:45 and then the next thing
02:11:46 is,
02:11:46 do you know what Jesus
02:11:47 is going to do
02:11:47 when he comes back
02:11:48 in the second coming?
02:11:50 Yeah.
02:11:50 It's in Revelation,
02:11:52 I believe.
02:11:52 So what is he going to do,
02:11:53 Arab?
02:11:53 That's a great point,
02:11:54 man.
02:11:55 What do you think
02:11:55 Jesus is going to do
02:11:56 when he comes back,
02:11:57 Arab? 0.95
02:11:59 How do you scratch
02:12:00 your beard like... 0.63
02:12:00 Slaughter?
02:12:02 Yeah.
02:12:03 Oh,
02:12:03 slaughter!
02:12:05 Yeah,
02:12:05 slaughter.
02:12:05 Is he going to wage war, 0.97
02:12:07 Arab? 0.99
02:12:08 Slaughter, 0.99
02:12:09 yeah.
02:12:10 Oh.
02:12:10 Yeah,
02:12:10 he will,
02:12:10 and Revelations.
02:12:11 Once Revelations
02:12:12 is enacted
02:12:12 when it's the end
02:12:13 of the world,
02:12:13 he will.
02:12:14 Okay.
02:12:14 Because then
02:12:15 the spiritual battle
02:12:16 is done.
02:12:16 So,
02:12:16 biologic,
02:12:17 is that the work
02:12:18 of the devil?
02:12:19 The spiritual battle
02:12:21 is done.
02:12:21 No,
02:12:21 that's the work
02:12:22 of God.
02:12:23 You know,
02:12:23 the thing is this,
02:12:24 like...
02:12:25 You're comparing
02:12:26 Revelation,
02:12:27 you're comparing
02:12:27 the end
02:12:28 of the world
02:12:28 to now.
02:12:28 It's the same way 0.70
02:12:29 when you compare
02:12:30 the Old Testament
02:12:31 to after the coming
02:12:32 of Christ.
02:12:32 Yeah,
02:12:32 with all the respect...
02:12:33 It's not the same.
02:12:34 With all the respect...
02:12:34 The world is over.
02:12:35 Yeah,
02:12:36 with all the respect,
02:12:37 Arab,
02:12:37 I can see...
02:12:38 I see something
02:12:38 that Christians do 1.00
02:12:40 all the time
02:12:40 and it's not consistent,
02:12:41 which is the point
02:12:41 that I was about to make,
02:12:43 which is Christians
02:12:44 pick and choose
02:12:45 when Jesus is God
02:12:45 when Jesus is not God.
02:12:46 I'll tell you
02:12:47 what I mean by that.
02:12:48 You believe...
02:12:49 How did I pick and choose
02:12:49 when...
02:12:50 I'll tell you
02:12:50 and then you tell me
02:12:51 if I'm wrong.
02:12:52 You believe in the Trinity,
02:12:54 correct?
02:12:54 I believe that?
02:12:55 You believe that?
02:12:55 Since you believe
02:12:57 in the Trinity,
02:12:58 when you say
02:12:59 God of the Old Testament,
02:13:00 when I give you
02:13:00 an example
02:13:01 of the Old Testament,
02:13:02 was that God
02:13:03 of the Trinity
02:13:03 includes...
02:13:04 Same God.
02:13:05 Yeah,
02:13:05 does it include Jesus?
02:13:08 No.
02:13:09 In the Old Testament,
02:13:11 it's the Father.
02:13:12 Then He sends His Son
02:13:13 in the New Testament.
02:13:14 No,
02:13:14 when it says
02:13:15 a command from God,
02:13:16 that should mean
02:13:17 the three persons
02:13:17 including Jesus.
02:13:19 Not from the Father.
02:13:20 The Old Testament,
02:13:21 the Old Testament
02:13:22 is the Father,
02:13:24 the Father Almighty.
02:13:25 So...
02:13:25 When He sends His Son,
02:13:27 He sends His Son
02:13:28 and He works through Him.
02:13:31 Okay,
02:13:31 so when...
02:13:32 He works through Him.
02:13:32 He has the Divine Nature.
02:13:34 But Arab, 0.97
02:13:34 you're missing something there.
02:13:36 When it says God,
02:13:37 there's a difference
02:13:38 when it says the Father
02:13:39 because there are instances
02:13:40 when it mentions Father
02:13:41 in the Old Testament,
02:13:42 directly with the personhood.
02:13:43 But whenever it uses
02:13:44 the term God,
02:13:45 in your belief,
02:13:46 that includes the three persons.
02:13:47 Also,
02:13:48 the Father and Son
02:13:48 and the Holy Spirit are one.
02:13:50 So when it says
02:13:50 God commanded something
02:13:52 that includes Jesus,
02:13:53 so this is what I say
02:13:54 that Christians say 1.00
02:13:55 Jesus is God
02:13:55 when they like
02:13:56 from the sense
02:13:57 is that this was
02:13:57 a command from Jesus
02:13:58 when the instances
02:13:59 I mentioned,
02:14:00 1 Samuel 15, 3
02:14:01 and number 17
02:14:03 that Jesus commanded
02:14:04 the slaughter of human beings.
02:14:06 Now,
02:14:06 you can say what you said.
02:14:08 God changed.
02:14:09 But then I'll say to you,
02:14:10 God doesn't have
02:14:10 change of personalities.
02:14:11 The Bible says
02:14:12 God is not subject to change.
02:14:14 That's a literal verse
02:14:14 in the Bible, by the way.
02:14:15 So God does not
02:14:16 one time, 0.99
02:14:17 He wants to kill babies 0.99
02:14:18 and children and infants 1.00
02:14:19 and succulents
02:14:20 and the next day
02:14:21 He becomes something else
02:14:22 and that's why
02:14:23 the point that
02:14:24 Warner mentioned
02:14:24 about the New Testament
02:14:25 is coming back
02:14:27 to the same story.
02:14:28 Now,
02:14:28 when you see Jesus,
02:14:29 I'll respond to the story
02:14:30 you mentioned as well
02:14:31 about when the ear was cut
02:14:33 and he said to his disciple
02:14:34 or whatever it is,
02:14:35 Jesus was in a position
02:14:36 of weakness.
02:14:37 Prophet Muhammad 0.98
02:14:37 a.s.
02:14:38 You cannot compare
02:14:39 the life of Prophet Muhammad
02:14:39 23 years
02:14:40 to three years
02:14:41 of the life of Jesus.
02:14:43 Prophet Muhammad 0.98
02:14:43 when he was in a position
02:14:44 in the beginning
02:14:45 of calling people to Islam,
02:14:47 they were weak.
02:14:47 So even if they were fighting,
02:14:49 they would die.
02:14:50 Allah did not give them 0.99
02:14:50 a command to fight.
02:14:52 Right?
02:14:52 So when you talk about
02:14:53 Jesus, for instance,
02:14:53 He said,
02:14:54 give to Caesar
02:14:54 that which is due to Caesar.
02:14:56 He was under subordination
02:14:57 to the empire,
02:14:59 the Roman empire at the time
02:15:00 or the empire emperor
02:15:00 at the time.
02:15:01 He was under subordination.
02:15:03 So He said to His followers
02:15:03 to follow.
02:15:04 He knows the outcome also
02:15:05 of rebelling
02:15:06 because if He causes rebellion
02:15:08 there will be war, 0.99
02:15:08 they will kill them. 1.00
02:15:09 Like, okay, 0.99
02:15:10 let's go against the army 1.00
02:15:11 and kill them 1.00
02:15:11 and find them back. 1.00
02:15:12 So it's not an argument
02:15:13 to say when you are
02:15:14 in a position of weakness.
02:15:15 Do you know why
02:15:16 I give you an example
02:15:17 of Prophet Muhammad?
02:15:17 Because the Prophet Muhammad 0.84
02:15:18 was in a position of power,
02:15:19 not weakness.
02:15:20 He had 10,000 people with him.
02:15:22 That's mercy.
02:15:23 You are in a position of power. 0.99
02:15:25 You can slaughter 0.78
02:15:26 and take revenge 0.98
02:15:27 from the people
02:15:27 who persecuted you
02:15:28 for 13 years,
02:15:29 but you choose
02:15:30 to let them go free. 1.00
02:15:31 Slaughter your daughter. 1.00
02:15:32 Right? 0.98
02:15:33 So I'm saying
02:15:33 there is a difference.
02:15:34 Instead of saying
02:15:35 that he was merciful,
02:15:36 you're saying
02:15:37 he was too weak
02:15:37 so he didn't fight.
02:15:39 No, I'm saying
02:15:40 that was the wisdom
02:15:41 is that if he did that
02:15:42 then the empire
02:15:43 would say that's a threat
02:15:44 who's trying to
02:15:45 make a political army
02:15:47 against us
02:15:48 and therefore
02:15:48 they would be fighting 0.88
02:15:49 and killing. 0.79
02:15:49 Right?
02:15:50 So I've not used
02:15:50 the word too weak.
02:15:51 I'm not trying
02:15:51 to be offensive here.
02:15:52 Right?
02:15:53 But I'm making a point.
02:15:54 You're saying
02:15:55 Jesus didn't fight.
02:15:56 Yes.
02:15:56 Your argument
02:15:57 was that Jesus didn't fight.
02:15:58 Yeah, in our belief
02:15:59 Jesus is not God.
02:15:59 You would believe
02:16:00 he was powerful.
02:16:01 We believe
02:16:01 he was a human being.
02:16:02 Yeah.
02:16:03 But you're saying
02:16:04 Jesus didn't fight
02:16:05 at that point
02:16:05 because he would have
02:16:07 died if he fought.
02:16:08 From our belief
02:16:09 as a human being,
02:16:09 yes.
02:16:10 There's many prophets
02:16:10 of God who died
02:16:11 who were killed.
02:16:12 He was going to be crucified.
02:16:14 That was the fulfillment
02:16:15 of the prophecy.
02:16:16 Yeah.
02:16:16 They were there
02:16:17 to take him to die.
02:16:19 Yeah. 0.56
02:16:19 So the reason
02:16:19 he didn't fight
02:16:20 is because he would have died.
02:16:22 But you know
02:16:23 that's a different point
02:16:24 that we don't believe
02:16:24 as well, right?
02:16:25 And we can come to that.
02:16:26 Did Jesus want to die?
02:16:30 Jesus wanted to die.
02:16:31 He didn't want to die
02:16:32 but he came down
02:16:34 to die for our sins.
02:16:35 He was sent by the Father.
02:16:36 So God didn't want to die
02:16:37 but someone forced him to die.
02:16:40 I mean,
02:16:41 if you want to label it like that,
02:16:42 you want to turn it
02:16:43 into binary black and white.
02:16:45 Yeah.
02:16:46 Okay.
02:16:46 Yeah.
02:16:46 His mission was
02:16:48 to come down and die for us.
02:16:50 Yes.
02:16:50 So this is the thing.
02:16:51 We as Muslims
02:16:52 don't believe
02:16:52 anyone can force God
02:16:53 to do anything.
02:16:54 We believe the creator
02:16:55 does what he will
02:16:55 and what he wishes.
02:16:57 There's no entity
02:16:57 or nothing
02:16:58 in existence
02:17:00 that can make God
02:17:01 do something.
02:17:02 Not forced.
02:17:03 Yeah.
02:17:03 Not forced.
02:17:04 Not wanting to do something
02:17:05 and still doing it
02:17:08 doesn't mean you're
02:17:09 forced to do it.
02:17:10 I don't want to go
02:17:11 to the gym.
02:17:11 I'll change what I said.
02:17:12 I don't want to go to the gym.
02:17:14 I don't enjoy going to the gym
02:17:15 but I still do it.
02:17:16 I'll change what I said.
02:17:17 In our belief as Muslims,
02:17:18 God does not do anything
02:17:19 he doesn't want to do.
02:17:20 He does everything
02:17:21 he wants to do
02:17:22 and there's nothing
02:17:22 he doesn't want to do
02:17:23 that he does
02:17:24 because the creator
02:17:25 is all powerful
02:17:25 so he does what he wishes
02:17:26 and what he will.
02:17:28 So in our belief
02:17:28 there's a difference
02:17:29 between this idea, right?
02:17:30 Jesus did not want to die
02:17:31 not only that
02:17:32 if you believe
02:17:33 as you said of course
02:17:35 that he's sinless
02:17:35 or pure
02:17:36 or whatever term
02:17:36 you want to use
02:17:37 then it is not just
02:17:39 by default
02:17:39 to punish him
02:17:40 for the sins
02:17:41 that you do
02:17:41 and I do
02:17:42 and people do.
02:17:43 He did not commit them
02:17:44 he did not do them
02:17:45 and he did not want to die
02:17:46 therefore he should not
02:17:48 be punished
02:17:48 for something
02:17:49 he did not
02:17:49 do himself.
02:17:50 That's very basic
02:17:51 you know
02:17:52 thing in law
02:17:53 obviously.
02:17:54 So let's have a little
02:17:56 mental exercise here
02:17:57 on the
02:17:58 God doesn't do anything
02:17:59 he doesn't want to do
02:18:00 and this is not
02:18:02 based off of scripture
02:18:03 or anything
02:18:04 it's just based off
02:18:04 of me logically
02:18:05 breaking it down.
02:18:07 When God
02:18:09 punishes someone
02:18:10 to eternal hellfire
02:18:12 do you believe
02:18:14 God is excited
02:18:15 to do that
02:18:15 or does he feel
02:18:17 bad that
02:18:18 one of his creations
02:18:19 has chosen
02:18:20 to follow Satan
02:18:20 instead?
02:18:22 I believe
02:18:22 God does that
02:18:23 because
02:18:24 God knows
02:18:25 that this person
02:18:26 deserves it.
02:18:28 That person
02:18:29 might deserve 1.00
02:18:31 eternal hellfire
02:18:32 but is it that
02:18:33 he deserves
02:18:34 eternal hellfire 0.98
02:18:34 or is it that
02:18:35 he doesn't deserve
02:18:35 the kingdom?
02:18:36 No he deserves 0.85
02:18:37 the eternal hellfire.
02:18:39 It's not just
02:18:40 if he doesn't deserve it.
02:18:41 It's not just
02:18:41 if he doesn't deserve it.
02:18:43 Yeah because
02:18:43 Arab you have to 1.00
02:18:44 understand in Islam 0.98
02:18:45 what we believe
02:18:46 that any time
02:18:47 a believer
02:18:47 does something good
02:18:48 immediately they're
02:18:50 rewarded for their good
02:18:51 and the reward
02:18:52 is multiplied by 10.
02:18:54 Anytime they do
02:18:55 something bad
02:18:56 it's not immediately
02:18:57 recorded
02:18:58 till later on
02:18:59 hoping that
02:19:00 that individual
02:19:01 will ask for forgiveness.
02:19:02 I understand
02:19:02 Arab's question though
02:19:03 he's asking like
02:19:04 can God reluctantly
02:19:05 do something
02:19:06 like how emotional
02:19:06 is God?
02:19:07 Exactly.
02:19:08 God is not a human 0.89
02:19:09 he's not like
02:19:10 like okay
02:19:10 this is very difficult
02:19:12 for me to do
02:19:13 but I'm gonna do it.
02:19:14 The creator
02:19:15 is the all-wise
02:19:15 all-knowing
02:19:16 whatever the creator
02:19:18 does stems
02:19:18 from wisdom
02:19:19 and stems
02:19:20 from justice.
02:19:20 So does Allah
02:19:21 get angry?
02:19:22 Anger is there
02:19:23 but it's not
02:19:23 the anger of humans.
02:19:24 Allah says
02:19:25 in the Quran
02:19:26 there's nothing
02:19:27 like unto Allah
02:19:28 so the anger
02:19:28 of boiling blood
02:19:29 that we have
02:19:30 as humans
02:19:30 that's not
02:19:31 the anger
02:19:31 of the creator.
02:19:32 Right?
02:19:33 So whenever
02:19:33 we use
02:19:34 a description
02:19:35 of Allah's attributes
02:19:36 that is not
02:19:38 like the attributes
02:19:38 that human possess
02:19:39 it is unlike
02:19:40 it in every way
02:19:41 possible
02:19:41 that's our belief
02:19:42 as Muslims
02:19:42 that's why we say
02:19:43 God is not a man 1.00
02:19:43 but not only that
02:19:44 the Bible says
02:19:45 God is not a man 1.00
02:19:45 even though Arab 0.98
02:19:46 agreed and he said
02:19:47 Jesus was a man
02:19:48 the Bible literally
02:19:49 word for word
02:19:50 says God is not a man
02:19:51 in Mosiah
02:19:52 chapter 9 verse 11
02:19:53 and in Numbers 23
02:19:54 17 I believe
02:19:55 so all over the Bible
02:19:57 this argument
02:20:00 goes back to
02:20:00 the Jesus Christ
02:20:02 versus God
02:20:04 which we don't agree on
02:20:05 so going back
02:20:06 to it
02:20:07 as a
02:20:08 what's it called
02:20:09 as a flaw
02:20:12 in the Bible
02:20:12 we disagree
02:20:13 on Jesus Christ
02:20:14 okay let me ask you
02:20:15 this
02:20:15 I think the most
02:20:17 important question
02:20:17 is this then
02:20:18 right
02:20:18 then I'm making
02:20:19 comparisons
02:20:19 and this and that
02:20:20 was Jesus
02:20:22 God
02:20:23 himself
02:20:24 walking on earth
02:20:25 I think that is
02:20:25 the most important
02:20:26 question to ask
02:20:27 that is the biggest
02:20:27 difference
02:20:28 and my question
02:20:29 to you will be
02:20:29 right
02:20:30 for us to judge
02:20:32 whether Jesus
02:20:33 was God
02:20:33 himself walking
02:20:34 on earth
02:20:35 that should come
02:20:35 from Jesus
02:20:36 statements himself
02:20:36 his own mouth
02:20:37 what he said
02:20:38 and what he did
02:20:38 okay
02:20:39 I believe that's
02:20:40 the father
02:20:42 I know
02:20:45 I've heard this
02:20:46 before
02:20:46 you're going to
02:20:49 cite a Bible verse
02:20:50 and you're going to
02:20:50 say he says
02:20:51 I can't do it
02:20:52 without the father
02:20:53 yeah
02:20:54 but I like that
02:20:56 you brought that up
02:20:57 you know
02:20:57 it's not going to
02:20:58 do that
02:20:58 what I was going to
02:21:00 do is ask you
02:21:01 where are these
02:21:02 instances or verses
02:21:04 or what makes
02:21:05 you believe that
02:21:06 from the statements
02:21:07 of Jesus himself
02:21:08 that's what I was
02:21:08 about to ask
02:21:09 I would like
02:21:10 actually to explore
02:21:11 what you think
02:21:11 rather than tell you
02:21:12 this and this
02:21:13 I ask you
02:21:14 okay you
02:21:14 you believe Jesus
02:21:15 is that
02:21:15 why do you believe
02:21:17 that looking at
02:21:17 Jesus statements
02:21:18 if we accept
02:21:20 the Bible
02:21:21 yeah
02:21:21 look if we're
02:21:22 going through
02:21:22 Jesus exact
02:21:23 statements
02:21:24 I can't cite
02:21:25 them like you can
02:21:26 right
02:21:26 I don't have
02:21:27 these memorized
02:21:28 I'm just reading
02:21:29 the Bible
02:21:30 every day
02:21:30 I wake up
02:21:31 I read
02:21:31 you know
02:21:32 I'm studying
02:21:33 so I'm not
02:21:33 going to be able
02:21:34 to one to one
02:21:35 conversation with
02:21:36 you on Jesus
02:21:37 exact statements
02:21:38 you'll smoke me
02:21:39 it'll get into
02:21:40 debate territory
02:21:41 let's go back
02:21:43 to a point
02:21:44 that Warner
02:21:44 brought up
02:21:44 about the 10x
02:21:45 Warner
02:21:45 can you repeat
02:21:46 the 10x thing
02:21:47 that you said
02:21:47 yeah I'm just
02:21:49 saying that
02:21:49 off the top
02:21:50 Allah is so
02:21:51 merciful
02:21:51 Allah is so
02:21:52 kind
02:21:52 he did not
02:21:53 create us
02:21:54 to punish us
02:21:55 the people
02:21:56 who went
02:21:57 to the hellfire
02:21:58 they deserved 0.99
02:21:59 the hellfire
02:22:00 I'm just saying
02:22:01 off top
02:22:01 Allah
02:22:02 he created
02:22:03 a system
02:22:03 that benefits
02:22:05 the believers
02:22:05 and obviously
02:22:07 the disbelievers 0.72
02:22:08 they will be
02:22:08 punished
02:22:09 for you know 0.90
02:22:10 for being arrogant
02:22:12 towards the truth
02:22:13 and I hope
02:22:14 you're not going to be
02:22:15 arrogant towards
02:22:16 the truth
02:22:16 one day as well
02:22:17 well
02:22:18 I wouldn't
02:22:21 I wouldn't ever say
02:22:22 that you're going 0.78
02:22:22 to hell 0.78
02:22:22 it's not for me
02:22:23 to judge
02:22:24 and I would
02:22:24 I would hope
02:22:25 that if you were 1.00
02:22:26 ignorant
02:22:27 to the truth 1.00
02:22:28 Warner
02:22:28 that God
02:22:29 would be merciful
02:22:30 on you
02:22:30 I don't think
02:22:31 that he
02:22:32 he wouldn't be
02:22:33 as long as
02:22:34 your heart
02:22:35 and your intentions
02:22:35 are pure
02:22:36 and you walk
02:22:37 in a path
02:22:37 which is
02:22:38 pure
02:22:40 but there's a point
02:22:41 that I want to bring up
02:22:42 I'm interested
02:22:43 to hear your opinion
02:22:44 here Lantern
02:22:45 about Hassanat
02:22:46 and then two
02:22:48 you never answered
02:22:49 about the
02:22:50 Mutha marriage
02:22:50 oh yeah
02:22:51 I've come to that
02:22:51 I mentioned
02:22:52 Mutha marriage
02:22:52 I can't answer
02:22:53 at the same time
02:22:54 you just give me
02:22:54 one point
02:22:55 but let's go back
02:22:58 to Mutha marriage
02:22:59 and then we'll talk
02:23:00 about Hassanat
02:23:00 and then we can
02:23:01 we can call it off
02:23:02 okay
02:23:02 and you can bring
02:23:03 in young Don
02:23:04 okay Mutha marriage
02:23:05 is prohibited in Islam
02:23:06 the Prophet prohibited 1.00
02:23:07 Mutha marriage in Islam
02:23:08 it does not happen
02:23:09 what you're referring to
02:23:10 is a group of
02:23:11 Chi'a 1.00
02:23:11 who do this
02:23:12 specific practice
02:23:13 not all of them
02:23:14 even
02:23:14 W Shias 1.00
02:23:15 and this is a very
02:23:18 a very minute
02:23:18 group of Muslims
02:23:20 and less than 10%
02:23:20 of Muslims
02:23:21 is a minority
02:23:21 and that is something
02:23:23 that they do
02:23:23 but it's not Islamic
02:23:24 right
02:23:24 if you look at
02:23:25 the statements
02:23:25 of the Prophet
02:23:26 the Prophet forbade 0.99
02:23:27 it explicitly
02:23:28 we've got multiple
02:23:29 reports from the Prophet
02:23:30 saying that
02:23:31 so that is not
02:23:32 like an argument
02:23:33 that's why even
02:23:34 I don't think
02:23:34 it's even a big point
02:23:35 right
02:23:35 against Islam 1.00
02:23:36 that's why even
02:23:36 it's very easy
02:23:37 to respond to
02:23:38 so that was the first
02:23:39 thing about Mutha marriage
02:23:40 right
02:23:40 second thing is
02:23:41 you said
02:23:41 you wanted to hear
02:23:42 my thoughts
02:23:42 about something
02:23:43 what was it
02:23:44 about getting
02:23:48 getting points
02:23:49 for converting
02:23:50 people
02:23:51 sure
02:23:51 so this is
02:23:53 I talked to
02:23:54 Sneak about this
02:23:54 before private
02:23:55 I believe
02:23:55 we don't look
02:23:57 at the good
02:23:57 deeds that we do
02:23:58 and we like
02:23:59 we have a notebook
02:24:00 or something
02:24:00 and we okay
02:24:01 10 today
02:24:01 11 12 20
02:24:03 I'll tell you
02:24:03 the simple reason
02:24:04 why even if
02:24:05 we wanted to do
02:24:06 that we would
02:24:06 not be able
02:24:07 to
02:24:07 the simple
02:24:09 reason is
02:24:10 there's a lot
02:24:11 of sins
02:24:11 that we commit
02:24:12 that we are
02:24:12 unaware
02:24:12 we don't notice
02:24:14 them
02:24:14 so we're not
02:24:14 going to be able
02:24:15 to count
02:24:15 there's some
02:24:16 good deeds
02:24:16 that we do
02:24:17 that even
02:24:17 we're not
02:24:18 unaware
02:24:18 we're also
02:24:18 unaware of
02:24:19 that happens
02:24:19 due to impacts
02:24:21 that we do
02:24:21 that reaches
02:24:22 other people
02:24:23 we have no clue
02:24:23 about
02:24:23 so we cannot
02:24:24 even calculate
02:24:25 if we want
02:24:26 it
02:24:26 second thing
02:24:26 is the Quran
02:24:27 and Islam
02:24:27 doesn't tell you
02:24:28 this action
02:24:29 10 points
02:24:30 this action
02:24:30 100 points
02:24:31 it doesn't
02:24:31 happen
02:24:32 Allah says
02:24:32 he will reward
02:24:35 this
02:24:35 he doesn't
02:24:36 tell you
02:24:36 what the reward
02:24:36 is
02:24:37 Allah says
02:24:37 he will punish
02:24:38 this
02:24:38 doesn't tell you
02:24:38 this is minus
02:24:39 this point
02:24:39 so no Muslim 1.00
02:24:40 looks at this
02:24:41 as like
02:24:41 you know what
02:24:42 I'm calculating
02:24:42 at this point
02:24:43 actually a lot
02:24:44 of them do
02:24:45 actually
02:24:45 then they're wrong
02:24:46 but I'm saying
02:24:47 they don't look
02:24:47 at it
02:24:48 1 plus 1
02:24:48 I have 100
02:24:49 today
02:24:49 that's what I mean
02:24:50 none of them
02:24:50 would do that
02:24:51 like we have
02:24:52 1000
02:24:52 1 billion now
02:24:53 because they don't
02:24:53 have numbers
02:24:54 to calculate
02:24:54 but they do
02:24:55 it's the same
02:24:56 as before Ramadan
02:24:57 if you start
02:24:57 fasting 40 days
02:24:58 if you don't
02:24:59 commit big sins
02:25:00 before Ramadan
02:25:00 you get double
02:25:02 Hassanat
02:25:02 no that's not
02:25:04 true by the way
02:25:05 but I get
02:25:06 what you're saying
02:25:06 you get what I'm saying
02:25:08 you get increased gifts
02:25:10 what you're saying
02:25:10 is fair
02:25:11 there are Muslims
02:25:12 who try
02:25:13 who look at it
02:25:14 more like
02:25:14 back and forth
02:25:15 transactional in a way
02:25:16 but that's not the majority
02:25:18 I'll argue
02:25:18 that's not the majority
02:25:19 number one
02:25:19 number two
02:25:20 even if it was
02:25:21 I don't argue for what
02:25:22 Muslims do that is wrong 1.00
02:25:23 I argue for Islam 0.71
02:25:24 so Islam as an ideology
02:25:26 is perfect
02:25:27 if we were to find
02:25:28 some Muslims doing 0.99
02:25:29 applying it incorrectly
02:25:30 they're not the example
02:25:31 and I'll tell you
02:25:32 why that's not Islam 1.00
02:25:32 clearly and explicitly
02:25:34 Prophet Muhammad 0.98
02:25:35 himself was asked
02:25:36 does any of us
02:25:38 will enter his
02:25:39 Jannah
02:25:39 paradise
02:25:40 with his deeds
02:25:41 the Prophet said no
02:25:41 he said even
02:25:43 they said to him
02:25:44 even you
02:25:44 O Prophet of Allah
02:25:45 he said even me
02:25:46 so it's not about the deeds
02:25:47 he said
02:25:48 except if Allah 0.99
02:25:49 showers me
02:25:50 with his mercy
02:25:51 or encompasses me
02:25:52 with his mercy
02:25:52 that's how we enter
02:25:53 paradise
02:25:54 but a condition
02:25:56 to attain that mercy
02:25:57 is to do as good
02:25:58 as you can
02:25:58 as much as good
02:25:59 as you can
02:26:00 that's how you attain
02:26:01 the mercy of Allah
02:26:02 but it is not
02:26:03 the reason
02:26:04 you enter paradise
02:26:04 it is the mercy of God
02:26:06 because the minute
02:26:06 you're born
02:26:07 you're already
02:26:07 indebted to God
02:26:08 you're breathing
02:26:08 you have
02:26:09 a provision
02:26:11 given to you
02:26:11 all of that
02:26:12 you're already
02:26:12 indebted
02:26:12 you cannot pay
02:26:13 that back
02:26:14 but your deeds
02:26:16 they can buy you
02:26:18 a higher level
02:26:19 in Jannah
02:26:19 again it's not
02:26:21 buy and sell
02:26:21 right
02:26:22 it's if
02:26:23 they can get you
02:26:24 a higher level
02:26:25 in Jannah
02:26:25 they can earn you
02:26:26 yes because God
02:26:27 is just
02:26:27 and if someone
02:26:28 you know
02:26:31 avoided his
02:26:32 desires
02:26:32 and did as best
02:26:33 as he can
02:26:34 in comparison
02:26:34 to someone else
02:26:34 who followed
02:26:35 those desires
02:26:36 more
02:26:36 they cannot be
02:26:37 on the same level
02:26:38 because that's not
02:26:39 just
02:26:39 justice is to
02:26:41 reward the person
02:26:42 based on the actions
02:26:42 that they done
02:26:43 if you done more
02:26:44 if you did
02:26:44 just like
02:26:45 like we do
02:26:46 even as human beings
02:26:46 even though
02:26:47 we are not that
02:26:48 just but we still
02:26:49 have a concept
02:26:49 of justice
02:26:50 someone does more work
02:26:51 you give them
02:26:52 more money
02:26:52 right
02:26:53 a reward
02:26:54 it's not equal
02:26:55 it's not just
02:26:56 if you give
02:26:56 one who did more
02:26:58 and one who did
02:26:58 less the same
02:26:59 yeah but it's
02:27:01 that concept
02:27:02 doesn't stick
02:27:03 well with me
02:27:03 actually that's
02:27:03 one of the concepts
02:27:04 that scared me
02:27:05 away from Islam 1.00
02:27:06 he doesn't like
02:27:08 that concept
02:27:08 you know it's
02:27:09 very interesting
02:27:09 Christians
02:27:10 I want to know
02:27:11 like Arab 0.99
02:27:12 why do you ask
02:27:14 about the
02:27:15 Hassanat
02:27:15 like what is it
02:27:16 that bothers you
02:27:17 because I know
02:27:18 it's a lot of
02:27:19 Christians like
02:27:19 are you
02:27:20 do you feel
02:27:20 like you're not
02:27:21 good enough
02:27:21 like you're not
02:27:22 gonna do good
02:27:23 or what is it
02:27:24 what is it
02:27:25 that bothers you
02:27:26 that's not
02:27:28 what it is
02:27:28 at all
02:27:29 it's that
02:27:29 I don't feel
02:27:30 that I deserve
02:27:31 anything higher
02:27:33 in heaven
02:27:33 for having
02:27:35 been a better
02:27:36 Christian
02:27:36 I believe
02:27:37 that everyone
02:27:38 is on the
02:27:38 same playing
02:27:39 field
02:27:39 and as long
02:27:40 as you're
02:27:40 enlightened
02:27:40 by the truth
02:27:41 you deserve
02:27:43 it
02:27:43 so for example
02:27:44 Warner
02:27:45 you have a
02:27:45 big social
02:27:46 media following
02:27:47 you've probably
02:27:47 converted so many
02:27:48 people
02:27:49 so many people
02:27:50 in your life
02:27:50 in the past
02:27:51 two years
02:27:51 over 3,000
02:27:52 Christians
02:27:52 have accepted
02:27:53 Islam
02:27:53 there you go
02:27:55 you've converted
02:27:55 so many people
02:27:56 right
02:27:56 you get rewards
02:27:59 for that
02:27:59 for being a good
02:28:00 Muslim
02:28:00 you get rewards 0.95
02:28:02 in heaven
02:28:02 right
02:28:03 let's say
02:28:05 let's say
02:28:06 African warlord 0.98
02:28:08 child
02:28:08 right
02:28:09 who was born
02:28:10 with an AK-47
02:28:11 all right
02:28:12 in the middle
02:28:13 of the desert
02:28:13 in the jungle
02:28:14 on his deathbed
02:28:16 on his deathbed
02:28:17 hears about
02:28:18 Allah
02:28:19 and becomes
02:28:20 a Muslim
02:28:20 and converts
02:28:22 and repents
02:28:23 and blah blah
02:28:25 and now
02:28:25 his soul
02:28:25 is pure
02:28:26 he gets
02:28:28 a lower level
02:28:30 in heaven
02:28:30 and also
02:28:32 you get rewards
02:28:35 for converting
02:28:35 people
02:28:36 which
02:28:36 is a network
02:28:38 marketing scheme
02:28:38 I don't get
02:28:41 rewards
02:28:42 by the way
02:28:42 I'm having a conversation
02:28:43 so that I can
02:28:44 find the truth
02:28:45 right
02:28:45 I'm having a conversation
02:28:46 so that
02:28:47 I can understand
02:28:48 better
02:28:48 hopefully
02:28:49 to
02:28:50 bring people
02:28:52 to the light
02:28:53 but I don't
02:28:54 get rewards
02:28:55 right
02:28:55 I'm not doing
02:28:56 any of it
02:28:56 because I'm
02:28:57 okay
02:28:57 you know
02:28:57 like
02:28:58 just before
02:28:59 Sneeko says
02:28:59 I get a figure
02:29:01 Zillah
02:29:01 and Jenna
02:29:02 just before Sneeko
02:29:03 says the points
02:29:04 that he wants
02:29:04 to make
02:29:04 to respond
02:29:05 to what you
02:29:05 said
02:29:05 that's not
02:29:06 how Islam
02:29:06 looks at it
02:29:07 someone lived
02:29:07 his life
02:29:08 and he accepted
02:29:08 Islam
02:29:09 God
02:29:10 Allah
02:29:11 gives rewards
02:29:12 based on
02:29:13 his mercy
02:29:13 and bounty
02:29:14 and knowing
02:29:14 your condition
02:29:15 you could
02:29:16 give one pound
02:29:16 in charity
02:29:17 and I can
02:29:17 give one pound
02:29:18 in charity
02:29:18 and Allah
02:29:18 can give you
02:29:19 a million
02:29:19 and give me
02:29:20 one
02:29:20 or ten
02:29:21 it depends
02:29:23 Allah knows
02:29:23 your situation
02:29:24 it knows
02:29:24 your intention
02:29:25 when you're
02:29:25 doing it
02:29:26 that person
02:29:27 that just
02:29:27 accepted
02:29:28 Islam
02:29:28 it's not
02:29:29 oh he has
02:29:29 less points
02:29:30 that person
02:29:30 who was
02:29:30 before
02:29:31 has more
02:29:31 that's
02:29:32 again
02:29:32 that's what
02:29:32 I'm telling
02:29:33 you
02:29:33 that is not
02:29:33 how Islam
02:29:34 looks at it
02:29:35 that's not
02:29:35 how the
02:29:36 creator looks
02:29:36 at it
02:29:37 that's how I
02:29:38 get to the
02:29:38 seventh level
02:29:39 how do I
02:29:39 get to the
02:29:40 seventh level
02:29:40 then
02:29:40 you're telling
02:29:40 me
02:29:41 that guy's
02:29:41 gonna get
02:29:41 to the
02:29:41 seventh level
02:29:42 of heaven
02:29:42 it's not
02:29:43 seventh
02:29:43 he hasn't 0.93
02:29:45 done shit 0.86
02:29:45 his whole 1.00
02:29:46 life 1.00
02:29:46 he fucking 1.00
02:29:47 killed people 1.00
02:29:47 no he
02:29:48 he did
02:29:49 turn away
02:29:50 from the
02:29:51 most evil
02:29:52 thing that
02:29:52 he would
02:29:53 imagine this
02:29:54 if
02:29:54 there was
02:29:55 no door
02:29:56 of mercy
02:29:56 the individual
02:29:57 would have
02:29:58 continued
02:29:59 and done
02:29:59 worse
02:30:00 way way
02:30:00 worse
02:30:01 and when
02:30:01 someone lives
02:30:02 a very
02:30:02 difficult
02:30:02 life
02:30:03 it is
02:30:03 super
02:30:04 difficult
02:30:04 for them
02:30:05 to turn
02:30:05 away
02:30:05 from it
02:30:06 so that
02:30:06 by itself
02:30:07 gets a
02:30:08 reward that
02:30:09 is not
02:30:09 comparable
02:30:09 to anything
02:30:10 else
02:30:10 because that
02:30:11 individual
02:30:11 lived a
02:30:12 very
02:30:12 difficult
02:30:13 life
02:30:14 well that's
02:30:14 unfair for
02:30:15 warner
02:30:15 because warner's
02:30:16 been his
02:30:16 whole life
02:30:17 out here on 1.00
02:30:18 fucking 0.99
02:30:18 santa monica 1.00
02:30:19 pier converting
02:30:20 people
02:30:20 again who
02:30:26 said warner's
02:30:27 going to be
02:30:27 under him
02:30:28 or not
02:30:29 the same
02:30:29 level
02:30:29 i said
02:30:30 to you
02:30:30 the one
02:30:30 this is
02:30:31 the thing
02:30:31 you're
02:30:32 missing the
02:30:32 fact that
02:30:33 the one
02:30:33 who calculates
02:30:35 and judges
02:30:35 is allah
02:30:36 you're not
02:30:38 more just
02:30:38 than god
02:30:38 i'm not
02:30:39 more just
02:30:39 than god
02:30:40 i understand
02:30:42 that but
02:30:43 you said
02:30:44 you said
02:30:44 you said
02:30:45 at the beginning
02:30:46 of this
02:30:46 conversation
02:30:46 an hour
02:30:47 ago
02:30:48 that
02:30:48 your religion
02:30:50 is based
02:30:50 off of
02:30:50 logic
02:30:51 no that's
02:30:52 what's
02:30:53 nico said
02:30:53 i'm very
02:30:54 careful with
02:30:55 what i say
02:30:55 by the way
02:30:56 that's
02:30:56 what's
02:30:56 nico said
02:30:56 okay
02:30:59 well you know
02:31:00 you have a good
02:31:00 memory so
02:31:01 maybe you didn't
02:31:02 say that
02:31:02 yes
02:31:03 maybe you didn't
02:31:03 say that
02:31:03 but i do
02:31:04 remember
02:31:05 3v1ing 0.98
02:31:09 so let's
02:31:10 assume 1v1
02:31:11 let's assume
02:31:11 one camera
02:31:12 versus one
02:31:12 camera
02:31:13 i heard
02:31:14 that you're
02:31:14 arguing based
02:31:15 off logic
02:31:16 right
02:31:16 no
02:31:17 i don't
02:31:18 say
02:31:18 okay look
02:31:19 logic
02:31:20 is used
02:31:22 in islam
02:31:22 sound logic
02:31:23 it's a part
02:31:24 of islam
02:31:24 we don't
02:31:24 reject
02:31:25 but it's
02:31:25 not the
02:31:25 only thing
02:31:25 it's revelation
02:31:26 and logic
02:31:26 it's a
02:31:27 combination
02:31:27 of the
02:31:27 two
02:31:28 we say
02:31:28 the intellect
02:31:31 and the revelation
02:31:32 it's two
02:31:32 things
02:31:32 intellect
02:31:33 alone
02:31:33 cannot get
02:31:34 you to know
02:31:34 everything about
02:31:35 god or
02:31:35 revelation
02:31:36 you require
02:31:37 revelation
02:31:37 so it can
02:31:38 tell you the
02:31:39 details of
02:31:39 life
02:31:40 right
02:31:40 so it's
02:31:40 a combination
02:31:40 between
02:31:41 the two
02:31:41 so i don't
02:31:42 start with
02:31:42 a position
02:31:42 only
02:31:43 that
02:31:43 but we
02:31:44 say
02:31:44 rational
02:31:44 is also
02:31:45 a part
02:31:45 of
02:31:45 islam
02:31:46 important
02:31:47 part
02:31:47 of islam
02:31:48 but when
02:31:48 you say
02:31:49 rationality
02:31:49 i say
02:31:49 sound
02:31:50 intellect
02:31:50 your intellect
02:31:51 for instance
02:31:52 or my intellect
02:31:53 is not
02:31:53 the criteria
02:31:53 what you
02:31:55 think is
02:31:55 rational
02:31:55 is not
02:31:56 the criteria
02:31:56 for all
02:31:57 humanity
02:31:57 what i think
02:31:58 is rational
02:31:58 is not
02:31:59 the criteria
02:31:59 of all
02:31:59 humanity
02:32:00 there are
02:32:00 certain
02:32:00 things
02:32:00 that are
02:32:01 common
02:32:01 sense
02:32:02 or sound
02:32:03 logic
02:32:03 that everyone
02:32:03 can agree
02:32:04 on
02:32:04 but if
02:32:05 you bring
02:32:05 something
02:32:06 that you
02:32:06 personally
02:32:07 think
02:32:07 is not
02:32:08 rational
02:32:08 that is
02:32:08 not a
02:32:09 criteria
02:32:09 for
02:32:09 what is
02:32:10 logical
02:32:10 and what
02:32:10 is
02:32:10 not
02:32:10 that's
02:32:11 a very
02:32:11 important
02:32:11 point
02:32:11 to keep
02:32:12 in mind
02:32:12 oh great
02:32:13 so on
02:32:14 that same
02:32:15 point
02:32:15 god
02:32:17 can create
02:32:19 a human
02:32:19 form
02:32:20 that we
02:32:22 wouldn't
02:32:22 understand
02:32:23 okay
02:32:24 that's the
02:32:24 paradox
02:32:25 again that
02:32:26 would come
02:32:26 back to that
02:32:26 point i made
02:32:27 to you
02:32:27 where did
02:32:28 we can't
02:32:29 come back
02:32:29 later because
02:32:29 i have to
02:32:30 head out
02:32:30 one thing i
02:32:33 want to ask
02:32:33 arab my
02:32:35 brother arab i
02:32:35 want to ask
02:32:36 you a question
02:32:36 imagine someone
02:32:37 hires you for
02:32:38 a job but
02:32:38 they said
02:32:38 they're not
02:32:39 going to pay
02:32:39 you are
02:32:40 you going to
02:32:40 accept that
02:32:40 job
02:32:40 someone hires
02:32:43 me for a
02:32:44 job they're
02:32:44 not going to
02:32:44 pay me
02:32:45 yeah they're
02:32:45 not going to
02:32:46 pay you they
02:32:46 want you to
02:32:47 do all the
02:32:47 work that's
02:32:48 that's a
02:32:48 very that's a 0.98
02:32:49 very black and
02:32:50 white question
02:32:50 if i'm a if
02:32:51 i'm a 17 year
02:32:52 old entrepreneur
02:32:53 and someone who
02:32:54 is much more
02:32:55 wise than me
02:32:55 hires me for a
02:32:56 job and says
02:32:56 he's not gonna
02:32:57 pay me yeah
02:32:57 he's paying me
02:32:57 an education
02:32:58 just like you
02:32:59 might not get
02:33:00 paid directly
02:33:00 and blah blah
02:33:01 no you're
02:33:03 never gonna get
02:33:03 on that argument
02:33:04 if i'm getting
02:33:04 yeah if i'm
02:33:05 getting paid
02:33:05 in in winning
02:33:07 the spiritual
02:33:08 battle and being
02:33:08 in heaven yeah
02:33:09 for sure
02:33:10 i wouldn't
02:33:11 you're getting
02:33:11 paid somehow
02:33:12 but that is
02:33:12 payment
02:33:12 no in his
02:33:13 example there's
02:33:14 no payment
02:33:14 no knowledge
02:33:15 nothing no
02:33:16 benefit
02:33:16 yes
02:33:17 but there
02:33:19 is
02:33:19 no i'm
02:33:21 telling you
02:33:21 there is
02:33:22 it's a hypothetical
02:33:23 there's no
02:33:24 benefit
02:33:24 are you gonna
02:33:26 accept the
02:33:26 job
02:33:26 what's your
02:33:27 hypothetical
02:33:28 like give a
02:33:29 better
02:33:29 would you take
02:33:30 a job
02:33:30 let me explain
02:33:32 would you take
02:33:32 a job where
02:33:33 you don't
02:33:33 benefit at all
02:33:34 no i wouldn't
02:33:36 take a job
02:33:37 where i don't
02:33:37 benefit at all
02:33:38 and then the
02:33:39 second i wanted
02:33:40 to ask you
02:33:40 this
02:33:40 you said
02:33:41 that doesn't
02:33:42 okay
02:33:43 that doesn't
02:33:43 bring anything
02:33:43 it doesn't
02:33:44 change anything
02:33:44 well that's
02:33:45 the reason
02:33:45 that's the reason
02:33:46 we do good
02:33:46 things
02:33:47 we do good
02:33:48 things because
02:33:49 there's rewards
02:33:49 in heaven
02:33:50 inshallah
02:33:50 and you said
02:33:51 earlier that
02:33:52 i do good
02:33:54 things i do
02:33:55 good things
02:33:56 for the benefit
02:33:57 of my soul
02:33:58 not as a reward
02:33:59 in heaven
02:33:59 because i feel
02:34:00 i feel good
02:34:01 i feel better
02:34:04 i feel better
02:34:05 spending five
02:34:06 hundred dollars
02:34:07 on homeless
02:34:08 people than
02:34:08 i do spending
02:34:09 five hundred
02:34:09 dollars on a
02:34:10 but that's
02:34:10 a selfish thing
02:34:11 that's selfish
02:34:12 if you were
02:34:13 going to follow
02:34:13 that logic
02:34:14 and you were
02:34:15 just going to
02:34:15 do things to
02:34:16 feel good in
02:34:16 this life
02:34:16 then why not
02:34:17 why not go
02:34:18 to this trip
02:34:18 club why not
02:34:19 get high
02:34:19 why not get
02:34:20 drunk if you're
02:34:20 just going to
02:34:20 do things to
02:34:21 make you feel
02:34:21 good now
02:34:22 there's a million
02:34:23 things you can
02:34:23 do
02:34:23 go to the point
02:34:24 you're going to
02:34:24 say because what
02:34:25 you're saying now
02:34:26 is not making
02:34:26 sense go to the
02:34:27 point that you're
02:34:28 going to say so
02:34:28 we can close
02:34:29 this off
02:34:29 okay you said
02:34:29 first of all
02:34:31 it was a pleasure
02:34:32 i like the
02:34:35 conversation
02:34:35 we need to
02:34:36 have more
02:34:37 hopefully i
02:34:37 hopefully i didn't
02:34:39 get
02:34:40 sent to hell 0.99
02:34:45 by by 0.95
02:34:47 young don
02:34:48 hey he's
02:34:50 probably pissed
02:34:51 right now
02:34:58 he seems
02:35:05 well it's
02:35:05 okay
02:35:05 i'll speak
02:35:06 to him
02:35:06 i did hold
02:35:06 him longer
02:35:07 than i said
02:35:07 he would
02:35:08 we cut off 0.96
02:35:08 we cut off
02:35:32 sorry
02:35:32 last question
02:35:33 so why do
02:35:34 you so why
02:35:35 do good things
02:35:36 to make
02:35:36 yourself feel
02:35:37 good
02:35:37 bro
02:35:40 like let's
02:35:42 not act like
02:35:43 treating people
02:35:44 well and and
02:35:45 and you know
02:35:46 doing good
02:35:47 things and being
02:35:48 righteous doesn't
02:35:49 bring you more
02:35:49 peace than treating 1.00
02:35:50 people like shit 1.00
02:35:51 okay come on 1.00
02:35:52 stiko you're 1.00
02:35:52 fucking arab arab 1.00
02:35:54 you're always angry 1.00
02:35:55 you're always
02:35:55 arguing with people
02:35:57 like doesn't that
02:35:58 doesn't that sometimes
02:35:59 at one point in your
02:36:00 life you're gonna get
02:36:00 to a point stiko
02:36:01 where you're gonna
02:36:02 realize all this
02:36:02 peace and all the
02:36:03 money you've made
02:36:04 is is much
02:36:06 better when yeah
02:36:07 you can enjoy your
02:36:08 gifts but when you
02:36:08 give it back to
02:36:09 people when you
02:36:10 earn a smile from
02:36:10 someone when you
02:36:11 when you give back
02:36:12 to charity i mean
02:36:13 you already do it
02:36:14 you already do it
02:36:14 it's part of your
02:36:15 religion 10% to 0.94
02:36:16 charity like you
02:36:17 you already do that 1.00
02:36:18 shit and you know 1.00
02:36:19 the feeling gives you 0.99
02:36:19 you're not doing it
02:36:20 because it it's it's
02:36:22 healthy for your soul
02:36:23 bro it's healthy for
02:36:25 your soul yeah it's
02:36:26 not that i'm doing it
02:36:26 for rewards in heaven
02:36:27 then then you're doing
02:36:29 it for something you're
02:36:30 doing for something
02:36:31 even even worse than
02:36:33 what i said which is
02:36:34 that it makes you
02:36:34 feel good and pure
02:36:36 you're doing it so
02:36:36 that you're only doing
02:36:38 it so that you can
02:36:40 get a better villa on
02:36:41 the seventh layer of
02:36:41 heaven of jenna like
02:36:43 you know a villa
02:36:45 literally but the
02:36:47 point is yeah it
02:36:48 it cut off i think
02:36:49 for a bit but you
02:36:50 were saying we're
02:36:51 back now yeah so
02:36:52 the thing is this
02:36:53 like you agree to
02:36:54 sneak up that doing 0.96
02:36:55 it yes you have this
02:36:56 good feeling and you
02:36:57 like that good feeling
02:36:58 and all of that
02:36:58 thing is this is very
02:36:59 simple yeah so i'm
02:37:00 gonna make a very
02:37:01 simple point you
02:37:02 your argument against
02:37:04 the fact that people
02:37:04 do things to get to
02:37:05 practice is because
02:37:06 it's a selfish reason
02:37:07 that's the argument
02:37:08 doing it to feel good
02:37:09 is also a selfish
02:37:10 reason so whatever
02:37:12 reason you're gonna
02:37:12 choose to do in the
02:37:13 end is gonna end up
02:37:14 being something selfish
02:37:15 it's never gonna you're
02:37:17 never gonna be the
02:37:17 perfect being that do
02:37:19 good just because you
02:37:20 love the creator and
02:37:21 you have no nothing
02:37:23 ever in your mind
02:37:23 while you're doing it
02:37:24 so that is a
02:37:25 hypothetical that does
02:37:26 not happen in reality
02:37:27 so if there is any
02:37:29 selfishness in it
02:37:30 then whether that
02:37:30 selfishness is to get
02:37:32 paradise and reward it
02:37:33 that you deserve uh
02:37:34 because of what you
02:37:35 did in a way or the
02:37:36 mercy of god as well
02:37:37 uh or that you want
02:37:39 to feel good there's
02:37:40 no really difference
02:37:40 between the two uh
02:37:41 and yeah that's all
02:37:43 i'm gonna say right
02:37:43 uh but it was as
02:37:44 as you said it was a
02:37:45 pleasure
02:37:46 thanks for coming
02:37:48 on bro uh i like
02:37:50 the haircut
02:37:50 it was a pleasure
02:37:52 thank you yeah it's
02:38:08 better i look like i
02:38:08 lost weight
02:38:09 uh young don's probably
02:38:12 pissed right now like
02:38:13 think about how many
02:38:14 people i just sent to
02:38:14 hell with this
02:38:15 conversation i'm not
02:38:16 gonna lie see i think
02:38:16 this is a beneficial
02:38:17 conversation wait i want
02:38:18 to give i want to point
02:38:19 on one thing before you
02:38:19 leave a lot of christians 1.00
02:38:21 conduct themselves in a
02:38:22 very emotional way when
02:38:23 they talk about it they're
02:38:24 trying to like do gotcha
02:38:25 points you came in having
02:38:26 you know points of
02:38:27 contention yeah points of
02:38:28 contention with the
02:38:29 psalm things that you
02:38:29 wanted to be explained and
02:38:30 so you asked in terms of
02:38:31 understanding a lot of
02:38:32 them come in here like 0.94
02:38:33 this that add this person
02:38:36 what about are you
02:38:37 explaining like it's not
02:38:38 you're not trying to
02:38:39 learn they just come to
02:38:40 spar and fight right and
02:38:42 you came in trying to
02:38:43 learn which is why this
02:38:44 conversation was good
02:38:44 well they're they're not
02:38:47 following in the path of
02:38:48 jesus christ
02:38:48 but that's why i like
02:38:50 we all stray off that's
02:38:52 why i told you i like
02:38:52 here and there that's
02:38:54 why i told you i like
02:38:55 arab because i can tell
02:38:56 without meeting him i
02:38:57 know what kind of person
02:38:58 he is when i say okay i
02:38:59 want to talk to this
02:39:00 person or that person
02:39:00 because i know what kind
02:39:01 of person i don't need
02:39:02 to meet him i know he
02:39:04 is the individual we
02:39:05 have a discussion he's
02:39:05 not going to emotion
02:39:06 he's going to be chill
02:39:07 we're going to have a
02:39:07 back and forth he's
02:39:08 good thank you bro yeah
02:39:09 so that's it thank you
02:39:10 yeah i'll let warner
02:39:12 call me shaitan for an
02:39:13 hour and a train through
02:39:15 the desert bro you know
02:39:16 and let me just clarify
02:39:19 one small thing in
02:39:20 islam as well we don't 1.00
02:39:22 believe you can say
02:39:23 a person is going to
02:39:23 hell it's effing again 0.97
02:39:24 man what the hell
02:39:26 right no no of course
02:39:27 of course yeah you can
02:39:28 you cannot you do not
02:39:29 know right because you
02:39:30 do not know their life
02:39:31 their outcome when they
02:39:32 die after they die it
02:39:33 is between them and 0.98
02:39:34 god and god judges
02:39:35 them right but it's
02:39:36 effing again i don't know
02:39:37 why you keep saying
02:39:37 it's effing pleasure
02:39:38 pleasure chatting same
02:39:40 enjoy conversation i'm
02:39:41 sure we'll have a
02:39:41 conversation in the future
02:39:42 as well i'm gonna keep
02:39:44 i'm gonna keep studying
02:39:45 maybe one day i'll have
02:39:46 this thing it's memorized
02:39:47 anytime anytime you're
02:39:49 welcome to have a
02:39:50 discussion or you can
02:39:54 just read the Quran
02:39:55 good idea that's option
02:39:58 too buddy that's option
02:39:59 too buddy all right and
02:40:01 you're arab and you're 0.99
02:40:02 arab so you know what
02:40:03 i mean i'm arab i'm an
02:40:07 arab christian and i own
02:40:08 the word arab who are you
02:40:11 flipping off all right look at
02:40:12 the chat okay yeah it's
02:40:15 time to pray fajr um i
02:40:16 think i could keep
02:40:17 streaming though there's
02:40:18 a lot of people in here
02:40:18 let's pray and then come
02:40:19 back huh all right okay
02:40:21 but i'm sure we need to
02:40:22 get some sleep because we
02:40:22 have to do some traveling
02:40:23 tomorrow um i don't want
02:40:25 to say where we're going
02:40:25 chat but we're going to
02:40:26 be traveling so um we
02:40:28 do need to get some sleep
02:40:29 i'm not sure and um yeah
02:40:31 let's be real there's a
02:40:32 christian that wants to
02:40:33 join some of you may know
02:40:34 you can see it in the chat
02:40:34 it's just like he's
02:40:35 just gonna come in like
02:40:36 wait one question did
02:40:38 your brother it's just
02:40:39 like it's gonna be a
02:40:40 clip-on i don't feel like
02:40:41 doing it i'm not gonna
02:40:41 laddie bro i decided that
02:40:43 he's gonna do that thing
02:40:43 and then leave like we
02:40:44 could talk if he wants to
02:40:45 do a god pill podcast
02:40:46 afterwards uh zirka we
02:40:47 can go call afterwards i
02:40:48 don't want you to come in
02:40:49 here and just try to get a
02:40:50 clip it's just gonna be
02:40:50 annoying to me okay let's
02:40:51 go pray okay go pray or
02:40:54 do you all have a wudu or maybe
02:40:56 i'm ready i have to do my wudu
02:40:58 okay you can do it yeah i
02:40:59 have to as well i wish you
02:41:01 weren't gonna ask that so i
02:41:01 can okay cool yeah so i'll
02:41:03 just do my wudu and then uh
02:41:04 and then we'll take turn
02:41:05 entertaining the stream and
02:41:06 stuff okay why is your hand
02:41:08 here i was just i was holding
02:41:10 the chair so i could take off
02:41:11 i thought he was like
02:41:11 slipping out a secret message
02:41:12 behind the thing or
02:41:14 something um yeah let's see
02:41:19 maybe oh man young don
02:41:20 tweeted it and uh he didn't
02:41:22 text me back
02:41:22 yeah he tweeted the stream but
02:41:27 yeah yeah that's too bad i
02:41:28 told him it was going to be
02:41:29 90 minutes was going to be
02:41:30 two hours yeah i took a
02:41:31 little longer than he said
02:41:32 but um yeah that is what it
02:41:33 is yeah uh you can have a
02:41:35 discussion with him of course
02:41:36 uh privately but this is the
02:41:38 thing i i say most of the
02:41:39 time is like whoever you're
02:41:41 going to talk with christians
02:41:42 are not never going to be
02:41:43 satisfied right you've seen
02:41:44 it this stream no christian
02:41:45 you have to admit every
02:41:46 second they want another 0.97
02:41:47 person i'm not trying to be
02:41:48 disrespectful i've seen some
02:41:49 jay die they try to i said 1.00
02:41:51 adjocosta at arab at don
02:41:53 kick don bring don back
02:41:55 call trumpet call sam call
02:41:58 bro you called how many
02:41:59 people do we have to call
02:42:00 and we just come here and
02:42:01 chill we can't have one
02:42:02 conversation without someone
02:42:03 coming like what about this
02:42:05 like can we talk like is it
02:42:07 really that bad but that
02:42:09 also means that they feel
02:42:10 when we're having these
02:42:11 discussions something's
02:42:12 going to be revealed that
02:42:13 they don't like exactly
02:42:13 something is revealed it's
02:42:15 not oh the something is not
02:42:17 uh the way we like it
02:42:18 here i don't want to hear
02:42:19 this uh and yeah like like
02:42:22 someone will come in okay
02:42:23 don't have a discussion
02:42:23 don't talk allow discussion
02:42:25 in this course we're having
02:42:26 a talk we're having
02:42:27 discussion they say no
02:42:29 you're running you're
02:42:30 running like last night i
02:42:31 was in a twitter space for
02:42:32 an hour after my stream and
02:42:33 i was talking to jacosta for
02:42:35 a long time about like the
02:42:36 comment that hijab mohan
02:42:37 hijab made and then he's 0.96
02:42:39 like no let me talk to you
02:42:40 about unitarian christian
02:42:42 christian but it's 7 a.m
02:42:43 i'm like i kind of want to
02:42:44 go to sleep now and i'm
02:42:45 like i know what they're
02:42:46 going to say i'm running i
02:42:46 look at the community
02:42:47 sleep goes running from
02:42:48 jesus first off unitarian
02:42:50 christians reject the 1.00
02:42:51 trinity just like we do
02:42:52 but people like the title
02:42:54 of like oh i'm a christian
02:42:55 i'm defending christianity
02:42:56 even though you don't even
02:42:57 agree if you believe in the
02:42:58 salvation from the trinity
02:42:59 then you would disagree and
02:43:01 you would think that
02:43:01 unitarian christians are not
02:43:03 even on your side but
02:43:04 because you're like we're
02:43:05 both calling each other
02:43:05 christians that you have
02:43:07 something in common really
02:43:08 you don't okay yeah running 0.91
02:43:10 cowards um it's just buzz 0.85
02:43:13 words yeah i know it's so 0.61
02:43:15 like and we also they
02:43:17 first they said you're
02:43:18 running from um from
02:43:19 shampoo is your moon yeah
02:43:21 we said we're gonna do it
02:43:22 and then we're running for
02:43:23 another guy and then don
02:43:24 comes on you're running
02:43:24 from this guy like how
02:43:25 many how many do we need
02:43:27 to it's it's ridiculous at
02:43:29 this point yeah and they 0.62
02:43:30 were saying the same thing
02:43:31 about every time they say
02:43:33 the same thing and we
02:43:34 allow the person on we
02:43:35 have a discussion with
02:43:35 them they continue to say
02:43:37 the same thing again bring
02:43:38 him again never ending we
02:43:40 already have a discussion
02:43:41 with the person that you
02:43:42 mentioned right i already
02:43:43 had a discussion with him
02:43:44 well i have another i
02:43:45 already had a chat right
02:43:46 how are we running away
02:43:47 when we already had a
02:43:48 discussion before so it
02:43:49 just like makes no sense
02:43:50 you know i'm not gonna
02:43:51 lie i never talked to
02:43:52 zirko before but i've been 0.99
02:43:54 wanting to whoop his ass 0.99
02:43:55 for a long time you know 1.00
02:43:56 what i mean yeah but you
02:43:58 know it would be nice to
02:43:59 talk to him i mean he's
02:43:59 relaxed on the anti-islam
02:44:01 stuff i mean like when the
02:44:02 whole like we called us
02:44:03 invaders yesterday yeah
02:44:04 yeah but when he does that
02:44:05 islam i definitely want to 1.00
02:44:07 whoop his ass but like when 1.00
02:44:08 he chills out then i'm like 1.00
02:44:09 okay he's he's shown that
02:44:10 yeah i like them when he
02:44:12 showed up but when he it's
02:44:13 also 100 i want to 0.99
02:44:15 whoop his ass 100 yeah i 0.99
02:44:16 mean yesterday he tweeted 1.00
02:44:17 calling us invaders and
02:44:18 stuff like this and um what
02:44:20 else did he say oh he said
02:44:22 that we're not allies and
02:44:23 you know we're blast
02:44:24 blaspheming so like he's 1.00
02:44:26 my friend but it's like
02:44:27 sometimes man you know
02:44:28 okay let me go make who do
02:44:30 all right i guess we gotta
02:44:32 take over uh sneak a
02:44:33 stream i'll be quick i'll be
02:44:34 quick
02:44:35 take your time man don't
02:44:38 worry we're gonna entertain
02:44:40 in the the chat uh
02:44:42 did you see a difference
02:44:43 between the muslim brotherhood
02:44:44 and the christian brotherhood
02:44:45 or whatever exists of it
02:44:46 immediately came and they
02:44:50 start fighting with each
02:44:50 other although you bring
02:44:51 another one they're all
02:44:52 gonna start fighting that's
02:44:53 so funny yeah to be fair
02:44:55 arab just wanted to have a
02:44:56 chat but then uh yeah
02:44:58 don't want him to talk i
02:45:00 think he's gonna misrepresent
02:45:01 i think arab did very well
02:45:02 well i think he did very
02:45:04 well he was just he was
02:45:05 genuine he was yeah
02:45:06 yeah no and he did very
02:45:07 well from the sense is that
02:45:08 he was responding back and
02:45:09 forth but he was not like
02:45:10 oh just just like uh you
02:45:12 know doesn't have nothing
02:45:13 to say or whatever it is
02:45:14 so he did very well uh for
02:45:16 a discussion and i'll say
02:45:17 that i have you know i have
02:45:18 tons of discussions you
02:45:19 have tons of discussions
02:45:19 right it's not like we
02:45:21 brought someone who's like
02:45:22 we don't target or we see
02:45:23 whoever wants to have a
02:45:24 discussion they can have a
02:45:25 discussion and they keep
02:45:26 talking about these
02:45:27 individuals and hundreds of
02:45:28 times either we already had a
02:45:29 discussion with them or we
02:45:31 told them to come uh but
02:45:33 yeah they're never uh fully
02:45:35 satisfied you know it's
02:45:37 never a hundred percent
02:45:38 it's never it's never gonna
02:45:39 be enough until we get the
02:45:40 pope yeah yeah let's get
02:45:41 the pope actually i say
02:45:42 that all the time let's get
02:45:43 the pope but i think
02:45:44 they're gonna say the pope
02:45:45 is catholic without i know
02:45:46 i know we do he's not a
02:45:47 true representation get the
02:45:49 pope the old pope that
02:45:50 died resurrect him and
02:45:51 debate him he was the base
02:45:52 pope honestly man
02:45:54 all right all right let's pray
02:45:58 in shall we here please
02:46:00 hey we should we should show
02:46:03 them how we pray bro
02:46:04 if you want
02:46:05 yeah yeah
02:46:06 just be careful with the
02:46:07 camera
02:46:07 right there's not to drop
02:46:09 yeah i'm like i'll just turn
02:46:11 it and that's it i don't want
02:46:12 to try it that hard
02:46:13 this way
02:46:17 it's fine it's fine
02:46:23 yeah they're not going to
02:46:24 see from the
02:46:25 unless you want to do it
02:46:27 there
02:46:27 yeah let's do it so they
02:46:28 could they could see how to
02:46:30 pray i bet you there's
02:46:31 thousands of people that
02:46:32 don't know how to worship
02:46:32 god bro
02:46:33 you know what i mean
02:46:34 i'll talk to you like
02:46:36 i don't mind
02:46:37 i don't know
02:46:37 okay
02:46:43 okay
02:46:45 okay
02:46:49 yeah
02:46:50 yeah
02:46:51 allahu akbar allahu
02:46:53 akbar allahu akbar
02:46:55 allahu akbar
02:46:56 ashadhu an la ilaha illallah
02:46:58 ashadhu an la ilaha illallah
02:47:01 asoung
02:47:03 ashadhu an na muhammal rasulullah
02:47:07 ashadhu an na muhammal rasulullah
02:47:08 ashadhu an na muhammal rasulullah
02:47:08 hayyye ala as speeds 0.69
02:47:10 high high high high
02:47:11 sa gains
02:47:12 haye ala as hoş
02:47:12 ha kommen
02:47:14 ala as allies
02:47:14 kyat kwama tus
02:47:25 wfordforme
02:47:26 kila
02:47:27 please
02:47:28 keham 123
02:47:29 wa asturhu
02:47:29 allahu akbar
02:47:29 la ilaha illallah
02:47:30 wa asturhu
02:47:30 wa asturhu
02:47:31 wa asturhu
02:47:31 الله أكبر
02:47:34 الحمد لله رب العالمين
02:47:50 الرحمن الرحيم
02:47:54 مالك يوم الدين إياك نعبد وإياك نستعين
02:48:00 إهدنا الصراط المستقيم صراط الذين أنعمت عليهم غير المغضوب عليهم ولا الضالين
02:48:14 آمين
02:48:17 وآية لهم الليل نسلخ منه النهار فإذا هم مظلمون
02:48:31 والشمس تجري لمستقر لها ذلك تقدير العزيز العليم
02:48:40 والقمر قدرناه منازل حتى عاد كالعرجون القديم
02:48:50 للشمس ينبغي لها أن تدرك القمر
02:48:58 ولا الليل سابق النهار
02:49:04 وكل في فلك يسبحون
02:49:11 الله أكبر
02:49:13 سمع الله لمن حميده
02:49:25 الله أكبر
02:49:29 الله أكبر
02:49:39 الله أكبر
02:49:43 الله أكبر
02:49:55 الحمد لله رب العالمين
02:50:03 الرحمن الرحيم
02:50:07 مالك يوم الدين إياك نعبد وإياك نستعين
02:50:13 اهدنا الصراط المستقيم صراط الذين أنعمت عليهم
02:50:19 خير المغضوب عليهم ولا الضالين
02:50:26 آمين
02:50:29 والعاديات ضبحا فالموريات قدحا فالمغيرات صبحا
02:50:44 فأثرن به نقعا فوسطن به جمعا
02:50:50 إن الإنسان لربه لكنود
02:50:56 وإنه على ذلك لشهيد
02:51:01 وإنه لحب الخير لشديد
02:51:06 أفلا يعلم إذا بعثر ما في القبور
02:51:13 وحصل ما في الصدور
02:51:18 إن ربهم بهم يومئذ لخبير
02:51:25 الله أكبر
02:51:27 سمع الله لمن حميده
02:51:38 الله أكبر
02:51:42 الله أكبر
02:51:55 الله أكبر
02:51:58 الله أكبر
02:52:25 السلام عليكم ورحمة الله
02:52:49 السلام عليكم ورحمة الله
02:52:54 ورحمة الله
02:52:59 ورحمة الله
02:53:00 أكبر
02:53:01 أكبر
02:53:03 Oh, man.
02:53:28 Okay.
02:53:30 You're not tired to get some sleep for tomorrow?
02:53:33 Uh, when are you planning to end?
02:53:36 Should we leave you for a discussion with Don?
02:53:40 I want to, but he said that...
02:53:44 He said we could do it another time because I took longer than I expected.
02:53:48 Okay.
02:53:50 Let's see if he's still free.
02:53:52 But if so, yeah, we'll do it for...
02:53:56 Yeah, if so, I'll just go and leave you guys to...
02:53:59 Yeah.
02:54:00 Yeah, I'll probably, um, I want to get some sleep too, bro.
02:54:04 Yeah, yeah.
02:54:04 Well, I haven't slept since I got here, bro.
02:54:07 Yeah, I'll get some sleep.
02:54:08 I need to revive, but we've just been taking, like, periodical naps and I've been running off of coffee.
02:54:12 But...
02:54:13 All right, we'll leave you then to the stream.
02:54:15 But tomorrow, so what's the plan for tomorrow?
02:54:17 It's okay if we say where we're going, right?
02:54:19 I don't think so, no.
02:54:20 Okay.
02:54:21 Okay.
02:54:21 So the place we're going, what time should we wake up?
02:54:25 Well, it depends.
02:54:25 It depends what time you wake up to sleep.
02:54:27 If you're going to live stream or...
02:54:28 Yeah, I want to live stream.
02:54:28 What time?
02:54:29 Let's see.
02:54:31 What do you want to do?
02:54:32 You want to...
02:54:32 You want to confirm 11 or something?
02:54:36 Let's...
02:54:36 Let's wake up at 11?
02:54:37 Yeah.
02:54:37 I'll set my alarm for 10.
02:54:39 10.30.
02:54:39 Yeah, let's...
02:54:40 11, bro. 0.93
02:54:40 What the hell? 0.81
02:54:41 No, no, no, no. 0.99
02:54:41 What do you want?
02:54:42 We need some sleep, bro.
02:54:43 We'll be okay, bro.
02:54:44 Oh, I'm big, bro.
02:54:46 I need a hibernate, bro.
02:54:47 We'll maximize it.
02:54:48 Sleep in the car.
02:54:49 Okay, sleep in the car, bro.
02:54:50 Sleep in the car, bro.
02:54:50 Sleep in the car, bro.
02:54:51 Sleep in the car, bro.
02:54:52 I said it be like nine or something.
02:54:52 I said it a lot for 11, and then how else we go?
02:54:55 I didn't get a driver, and then we'll probably do an IRL stream where we're going.
02:55:00 Yeah, why not if you want?
02:55:02 All right.
02:55:02 What time you want?
02:55:03 I guess 11.
02:55:04 I'm going to sleep right away, then.
02:55:06 Yeah, yeah.
02:55:06 You got to sleep right away, I think.
02:55:09 We'll wake up at 11, and then, you know, easy 10, and then you get ready and stuff
02:55:12 like that.
02:55:14 12, 1, something like that.
02:55:15 We can go.
02:55:15 Should I go through clips?
02:55:16 If you want to sleep a bit more, it's okay.
02:55:17 I could go through clips before I go to sleep.
02:55:19 Just, yeah.
02:55:22 I'll go speed run clips.
02:55:26 Okay.
02:55:27 All right.
02:55:27 I'll hear that.
02:55:28 Thank you so much for coming on.
02:55:29 No problem.
02:55:29 I appreciate it.
02:55:30 All right.
02:55:30 Love speech.
02:55:30 Let's do it.
02:55:31 All right.
02:55:31 Love speech.
02:55:32 I appreciate you guys.
02:55:33 May Allah bless you guys.
02:55:34 May Allah guide you guys.
02:55:35 You already know, baby.
02:55:36 The Warner, we out.
02:55:37 Oh, and Arab just said, fun conversation, enjoyable.
02:55:39 Big shout out to Arab.
02:55:40 There you go.
02:55:41 More questions.
02:55:41 I enjoyed it personally.
02:55:43 I extremely enjoyed it.
02:55:44 So, hopefully, we'll have more discussions later with other people as well.
02:55:47 Same kind of discussions.
02:55:49 We're not looking for, like, you know, fighting matches and scoring points kind of thing.
02:55:53 That's not what we're looking for.
02:55:54 We're having discussions like this.
02:55:56 All right.
02:55:58 Love speech.
02:55:59 Long live love speech.
02:56:01 Yes, sir.
02:56:01 Okay.
02:56:02 You want some water or something?
02:56:03 There's a bottle.
02:56:04 I'll take the one that I used.
02:56:06 This one.
02:56:07 Okay.
02:56:07 What do you want?
02:56:08 A bottle of water?
02:56:09 Oh, no.
02:56:09 I got it in my room.
02:56:11 All right.
02:56:11 Be easy, man.
02:56:12 Get some good sleep, man.
02:56:13 All right.
02:56:13 Get some good sleep.
02:56:14 All right.
02:56:15 Low speech.
02:56:15 Peace.
02:56:16 All right.
02:56:17 I'll take the water bottle.
02:56:19 It's a little bit.
02:56:20 No, no.
02:56:20 That's the one I used.
02:56:21 Okay.
02:56:22 All right.
02:56:22 Peace.
02:56:23 All right.
02:56:27 I'll wait for you here.
02:56:28 All right.
02:56:29 Did you forget anything?
02:56:31 A key card or something?
02:56:33 I hope not.
02:56:34 I can take it tomorrow if I do it, but I don't think so.
02:56:37 Okay.
02:56:39 I got one, Habibi. 1.00
02:56:41 All in my dream?
02:56:47 Hey, my first desktop, bro.
02:56:49 That was kind of fun, bro.
02:56:52 First time I did a desktop.
02:56:54 Really?
02:56:54 Yeah.
02:56:55 I've never done a desktop before.
02:56:56 You prefer this or I'll talk to mom.
02:57:00 Yeah.
02:57:00 I mean, yeah.
02:57:02 All right.
02:57:03 Slalom, Habibi.
02:57:04 All right.
02:57:06 Slalom, Habibi.
02:57:07 Thanks for coming on, man.
02:57:08 Appreciate you.
02:57:08 See you tomorrow morning.
02:57:09 Bye.
02:57:09 Bye.
02:57:10 Bye.
02:57:10 Bye.
02:57:10 Bye.
02:57:10 Bye.
02:57:10 Bye.
02:57:13 W brothers.
02:57:16 W Muslims, chat.
02:57:18 W Muslims. 0.95
02:57:20 Look at the Ws, man. 0.72
02:57:23 Time for God pill?
02:57:26 Ways is texting me.
02:57:31 Ways, I'll figure everything out afterwards.
02:57:32 Okay.
02:57:32 Let me call Zerka now.
02:57:35 He's not going to pick up.
02:57:38 He's not going to pick up. 0.92
02:57:42 Dude, this nigga, all he does is, instead of doing content, Zerka fans, all he does is 1.00
02:57:45 just watch my streams and then tweet about them.
02:57:47 And then, like, what's your question?
02:57:56 Are you live?
02:57:57 Yeah, of course I'm live.
02:57:59 Hey, how's that?
02:58:00 Okay, you text me.
02:58:01 Where are the homies? 1.00
02:58:03 Hold on there.
02:58:04 Let me call you on Discord.
02:58:05 Yeah.
02:58:09 Where are the homies? 1.00
02:58:10 Why can't I call him?
02:58:29 Look at that beef, bro. 0.99
02:58:30 Fucking Warner wants to. 0.99
02:58:32 God. 0.99
02:58:32 Why is it not letting me call him?
02:58:40 Let me close Discord and reopen it.
02:58:51 Alright, he's calling right now.
02:58:52 Why is the chat moving so fast right now?
02:59:02 The chat is zooming right now.
02:59:04 What the hell?
02:59:14 The Zerka's pet. 0.99
02:59:15 I don't like it.
02:59:16 I don't like it. 0.80
02:59:16 You need to chill with showing inappropriate things to Muslim Lantern. 1.00
02:59:23 Bro, like, it's on the internet, man.
02:59:25 I mean, yeah, I get what you're saying, but he's not a baby.
02:59:29 Okay.
02:59:29 I'm sure he can handle it.
02:59:38 Maliki Omendine.
02:59:42 He just heard it as a problem on a laptop.
02:59:43 Hold on.
02:59:44 Just joining right now.
02:59:45 Chat, what did you think, man?
02:59:45 Did you enjoy this?
02:59:49 Did you enjoy this?
02:59:51 And what do you guys think?
02:59:52 Do you think Arab is going to become a stronger Christian, or do you think he's going to revert?
02:59:56 Like, what do you think is...
02:59:57 In my opinion, I think that call, like, is going to...
03:00:01 In the near future, he's going to just be a stronger Christian.
03:00:06 Which is, in my opinion, is fine.
03:00:10 But...
03:00:10 Alright, I'm calling him.
03:00:15 What's up?
03:00:20 You're muted.
03:00:25 You're muted.
03:00:28 Can you hear me?
03:00:29 I can't hear you.
03:00:41 And he's gone.
03:00:47 Hello.
03:00:48 Hey, what's up?
03:00:50 Can you hear me?
03:00:51 Yep. 0.98
03:00:51 Yeah, you have to kill that space chat.
03:00:56 Sorry about the Twitter, guys.
03:00:58 That's the second time.
03:01:00 Yo, where do your buddies go?
03:01:01 They went to sleep.
03:01:02 We're going to keep traveling tomorrow.
03:01:04 We finish Fajr prayer.
03:01:05 They're going to bed.
03:01:07 Oh, they don't want to talk?
03:01:09 No, they don't.
03:01:09 They don't want to...
03:01:10 I mean, you talked to Muscle Lantern before.
03:01:12 And you heard Warner's feelings.
03:01:15 We remember.
03:01:16 We remember what I did to him.
03:01:18 I don't remember.
03:01:18 What did you say?
03:01:19 You called him, like, Muslim Lightbulb or something.
03:01:22 No, dude.
03:01:23 I remember you laughing at him, too.
03:01:25 I cooked that guy hard.
03:01:26 His name's Lantern, right?
03:01:28 Muhammad Ali, yeah.
03:01:31 Wow, so I can't talk to them?
03:01:33 Just, you know...
03:01:34 What was your question?
03:01:36 Just saying...
03:01:36 Because I think you were going to do...
03:01:37 Based on what you were texting, you were going to do a troll question.
03:01:40 And then you were going to hang up and then go on to Twitter and then say...
03:01:43 I was going to just talk.
03:01:44 I didn't want to debate.
03:01:45 I mean...
03:01:46 Okay, well, what were you going to say?
03:01:47 Because I can bring them back.
03:01:48 They're right here.
03:01:51 No, they're uncomfortable.
03:01:52 That's fine.
03:01:53 No, they're very comfortable.
03:01:54 But it's just...
03:01:55 We see it as a waste of time.
03:01:56 Like, Muslim Lantern wants to do, like... 1.00
03:01:58 What room are they in?
03:02:03 I don't know what room they're in.
03:02:08 Okay, listen, man.
03:02:10 Don't you think, like...
03:02:12 You guys doing that to Arabs is kind of weird?
03:02:14 Arab asked to do it. 0.99
03:02:17 Yeah, but, you know, Arab's not all the way there.
03:02:19 Okay, Arab asked to have this conversation.
03:02:22 He just texted me.
03:02:23 He said, thanks for having me on.
03:02:24 That was an enjoyable conversation.
03:02:28 So that's fair in your world?
03:02:31 It's not about fair.
03:02:32 See, it doesn't have to be win or lose.
03:02:33 He wanted to talk about Islam.
03:02:35 He had questions.
03:02:35 He asked them.
03:02:36 He had his explanations.
03:02:37 He had points of contention with Islam.
03:02:38 So we talked.
03:02:39 It doesn't have to be win-loss all the time.
03:02:41 It's not always...
03:02:42 So you go into it, and there's a lot of Christians that go into it thinking it's a battle.
03:02:45 It doesn't have to be that.
03:02:46 Like, we have differences of opinions, and we can talk.
03:02:49 Your buddy said...
03:02:50 He said, the last thing he said to him was, you're an Arab.
03:02:56 Yeah, he's joking.
03:02:58 Yeah, that's a real joke, huh?
03:03:00 You're an Arab, so you have to be... 1.00
03:03:03 Okay, that's clear.
03:03:04 Also, he's Pakistani.
03:03:05 Warner's Pakistani.
03:03:06 He's not even Arab. 0.99
03:03:07 So that isn't...
03:03:08 If he was going to say, like, you need to be part of an Arab caliphate, that's...
03:03:11 He's from Pakistan.
03:03:12 Yeah, but isn't that play-to-win language?
03:03:15 I think he was making, like, a joke.
03:03:18 Okay, and as your representative, do you feel okay answering questions for grown-ass men?
03:03:27 I'm sure it was a joke, because he would have said it during the debate if he was going to use it as a point to win at something.
03:03:33 He said it after Arab was leaving.
03:03:35 He's like, hey, come to Zag, you're Arab. 1.00
03:03:36 Like, that's very clearly a joke.
03:03:39 Was that your question?
03:03:40 Any others?
03:03:43 Well, that's curious. 0.97
03:03:44 What the hell? 0.87
03:03:45 So they'll spend three hours with Arab, but not one question with me. 0.98
03:03:51 I mean, they will, but, like, you don't come in looking to have a genuine conversation.
03:03:55 We know what you do.
03:03:56 Like, Muscle Mantra spoke to you before, and you come in doing, like, the...
03:03:59 Well, what do you think about...
03:04:01 Like, you know, you could come in being willing to engage and not come in attacking.
03:04:07 So it's only the softies you guys will engage with, like, Arab? 0.94
03:04:12 No, I brought Young Don on as well, and you saw how he was. 0.98
03:04:15 Damn, I had a genuine question, bro. 0.95
03:04:19 I wanted both of them here for this. 0.99
03:04:21 You could ask me.
03:04:22 I'm a representative of Islam.
03:04:25 Yeah, but then I won't have a nuke.
03:04:27 Yeah, I see.
03:04:28 You think, like, I don't...
03:04:30 When you text me, like, you're scared.
03:04:31 I want to ask one question.
03:04:33 You know?
03:04:33 Oh, Young Don's free.
03:04:34 Young Don's free.
03:04:35 Okay, I'm going to...
03:04:36 All right, talk to Don.
03:04:37 Talk to Don.
03:04:38 He likes this stuff.
03:04:40 And now they can come out of hiding.
03:04:42 Who can come out?
03:04:43 They're not.
03:04:43 I'm going to talk to Young Don one-on...
03:04:44 All right.
03:04:45 I'm talking to Young Don one-on-one, by the way.
03:04:49 Oh, my God.
03:04:50 And then, bro, you know, you...
03:04:52 I can't lie, bro.
03:04:53 The Crisis King people, like, they're going to be like,
03:04:55 he's running.
03:04:57 He's running.
03:04:58 Okay.
03:05:00 All right.
03:05:00 Young Don, man.
03:05:01 Young Don.
03:05:01 Young Don.
03:05:02 Young Don.
03:05:03 My good friend.
03:05:03 Look at you, niggas, man. 1.00
03:05:12 He already won.
03:05:14 Won what, bro?
03:05:16 It's fine.
03:05:16 There's no point in arguing.
03:05:17 There's no...
03:05:18 There's zero point in even.
03:05:19 No, he didn't pick up.
03:05:40 Maybe he's...
03:05:41 He's probably fixing his microphone.
03:05:42 Okay.
03:05:42 oh god see they're a little bit wrong with uh the desktop setup is it
03:05:55 all right i'm gonna text zorka let's do let's do god pill after this 1.00
03:06:06 i'm grinding man fuck fuck sleep now 1.00
03:06:09 heck sleep 1.00
03:06:12 damn he's gonna call arab a soft it really is it really is never enough bro it really is never 0.97
03:06:26 enough for the online debaters ever 0.99
03:06:29 yeah
03:06:32 i pick up man
03:06:40 calling i'm super hungry chat what was the last time i ate
03:06:53 i don't remember oh man i'm stupid hungry i've had no time to do no we ate earlier we ate
03:07:01 earlier who was watching the local stream earlier i did a god pill stream earlier today 0.60
03:07:05 we'll engage with like arab hey i brought young as well and you saw how he was don how you doing
03:07:13 damn i had a genuine hey what's good bro hold on let me uh yeah your rumble stream still 0.55
03:07:20 last stream wait let me mute the stream the stream is super delayed that's a that's crazy 0.99
03:07:24 all right hold on where are you at where are you at is there still on here
03:07:29 uh no you want i want to talk to you one-on-one if you want i can add him but i had i did want to
03:07:34 speak to you um you know like okay you want me to add him no it's cool i just was gonna say
03:07:42 something to him if he was on here he's still gonna be on it all he does is watch my content
03:07:47 and not go live so he's still gonna be yeah i was just gonna tell him that you know i repented
03:07:53 from my blasphemy of denying the trinity and so me and zerg got it back and forth about the trinity
03:07:59 i'm not you know at some point in the past i remember and i hosted that debate you did yeah
03:08:05 and i just wanted to let him know that you know i've seen the truth so okay what made you see the
03:08:10 truth reading the church fathers reading the ancient christians well first of all how you been like
03:08:17 you disappeared from the internet we missed you you know we got to speak a couple times um over over
03:08:24 your your absence you know it's good to see you back are you gonna make a full return
03:08:27 yeah i'd say i've already made a full return uh i would say so before that and uh yeah i'm fully
03:08:36 back and but if i can just close off that last point i was just making about the trinity you know
03:08:41 so to any christians watching that remember me from a point when i was denying the trinity you know
03:08:48 i was i realize now that i was outside of the faith you know i'm saying like the christians have
03:08:53 always taught that jesus is eternal and so you know i fully subscribe to the trinity doctrine
03:08:59 and uh also to any muslims watching i put out a video you know about it right i put out a video
03:09:06 on my my youtube channel basically you know making an apology to the entire muslim community and any 1.00
03:09:14 other community i offended when i see that's what that was the the heart of what i was coming into
03:09:20 that conversation with you know i saw the mistakes i made in the past and one of those mistakes was
03:09:25 not approaching the discussion with the respect that it demanded and so for any of the muslims
03:09:34 watching that their last impression of me was someone who was uh and you know islamophobic or
03:09:40 anything like that i just wanted to extend that to you you can go and watch the full video on my
03:09:44 channel if you want to if you want to actually hear what i said and um i didn't know you said
03:09:51 anything islamophobic uh well you know that was the narrative online in a lot of muslim communities
03:09:57 that i was islamophobe in fact i'm pretty sure someone made some kind of video coming against you
03:10:03 and they put me in the video as well and um he described me as a islamophobe and a homophobe and
03:10:10 all the all the phobes in the book essentially homophobe is uh alhamdulillah you know this is
03:10:15 nothing i mean we don't hate anybody but you know i if you're called that by somebody online usually
03:10:20 in my experience that's a that's a sign of uh of something good well i'm joking by the way but
03:10:25 um i want to hear like what have you been up to and i want to explain it from your words i'm sure you
03:10:31 said what you were doing when you were gone but uh what has it been like since you left
03:10:34 uh you know bro i i got a job you know i started working in construction uh i was a full-time
03:10:42 youtuber for almost eight years and i needed to take a break you feel me and so i got a job in
03:10:50 construction and it's been very grounding very gave me a chance to take a step back from the internet
03:10:59 you know reflect and all of that was it you know was it worthwhile what what did you was the biggest
03:11:06 lesson you learned uh being away sometimes i envy that like when we got to speak a couple times when
03:11:10 you were working construction like your beard grew out you were like you could tell that you were
03:11:15 getting some sun you'd be able to step away from the internet my whole life uh past couple years you
03:11:20 know it's fully invested i'm always in some dry it's fully internet you know even though i'm traveling
03:11:25 and that's why that's why i do this i can still feel normal i'm fully invested in this and so for
03:11:30 you to step away completely and work outside with your hands that's like uh it's like disappearing from
03:11:34 that what do you think you learned yeah you know well one this was my first real job you know what i'm
03:11:43 saying like i suppose we shouldn't belittle what we do on the internet too much to say it's not a real
03:11:50 job you know just as good as anyone that this is i mean you're working 12 16 hour days as a
03:11:58 professional streamer the sun's coming up right now it's it's uh it's like 5 40 a.m here in bosnia and
03:12:04 i'm gonna sleep three hours and continue work yeah it is it is hard work but to call hard work online
03:12:10 people get upset because they're like oh i work three jobs and 10 shifts and you're gonna say streaming's
03:12:14 hard so i'm like it's not hard it's easy and just you know i would say you know what they're
03:12:19 difficult in different ways it's kind of like trying to compare what a woman does as a mother
03:12:25 to what a man does as the protector provider they're both difficult in different ways you know
03:12:32 what i'm saying it's not it's not wise i don't think to try and say oh one is harder than the other
03:12:36 they're both important so what you what i what other people do online it's valuable but it i mean if
03:12:45 you want your electricity to keep going if you want your water to keep flowing then there are men 0.99
03:12:51 out in the real world doing very hard labor to keep that going on a daily basis and so it's uh yeah
03:12:59 it was just nice to experience that it was nice to experience that and yeah it gave me a chance to
03:13:06 reflect and all that why did you decide to come back well i just felt like it was time i felt like
03:13:13 it was time in fact i i've been feeling like it was time for over a month but i really wanted to
03:13:22 be patient and make sure that it wasn't an impulsive move i wanted to to feel as if i'd really gotten
03:13:28 what god wanted me to get out of it and i think the evidence that it was time was how
03:13:33 my return video was received you know what i'm saying um people pretty much were happy to see
03:13:40 me again and they they see the changes they see the difference and so yeah okay and when you were
03:13:48 a unitarian were you still christian uh i would say no i would say the ancient christians always taught
03:13:57 that to deny the trinity is to commit blasphemy of god because you're denying one third of the god
03:14:04 you know you're you're denying it's the term godhead this is the way it's used whether or not that's the
03:14:10 appropriate way to use that word that's a different conversation but yeah you know jesus being very god
03:14:17 from very god you're denying who died you know the identity of god by denying the son as god and so
03:14:23 that's just what the ancient christians have always taught um and that's another thing it's not
03:14:29 necessarily the strongest or the biggest debate point that i've heard but something that i do hear
03:14:35 a lot in muslim christian debates is that you can't find the trinity before the council of nicaea
03:14:42 well i can show you multiple quotes from church fathers from the first and second century who said
03:14:48 that jesus was eternal always with the father and so no they may not have articulated the trinity
03:14:54 in modern trinitarian lingo the elements of the trinity were clearly present from the very beginning
03:15:02 of the church so when you rejected the trinity so you just rejected one third so you believed in
03:15:08 the holy spirit and the father almighty well it's it's more like the bible teaches that jesus is god
03:15:18 and i couldn't see that or you know i was deceived i didn't realize that that's what it was
03:15:23 saying you know and and so the church fathers there's a great book called um it's written by a
03:15:31 man named athanasius and he it's titled against the arians this idea that jesus is not god within
03:15:40 christianity which birthed this concept of unitarianism was started by a heretic a man
03:15:47 named arius it's known as the arian heresy and so there's a church father his name is athanasius
03:15:53 and he at the time of arius when he was teaching he wrote a very well articulated discourse on why he's
03:16:02 wrong and so if anybody wants to explore why it is that the trinity is true from the perspective of an
03:16:11 ancient christian teacher you know i highly recommend they read that okay so would you consider
03:16:15 unitarian christians like jehovah's witnesses not christian yes what are they just uh heresies
03:16:22 they're heretics yeah they're heretic that's the word heretics um okay yeah they they believe in 0.97
03:16:29 something other than what the universal church has always taught they essentially they've created
03:16:34 their own religion that's a spin-off of christianity okay so are you orthodox christian are you catholic
03:16:40 what are you no i don't identify with either orthodox or catholic at this point in time um you know i'm
03:16:48 i'm my approach is to see what the earliest christian teachers taught and just adopt that
03:16:55 and at this point in time i do not see um those teachings perfectly transferring over to what i see
03:17:06 today in the modern catholic and eastern orthodox faith now i'm still studying though and so i i view
03:17:13 catholics and eastern orthodox as brethren i i don't have any vendetta against them uh i'm not in a position
03:17:20 where i would want to debate them or or teach them or anything like that that's just where i'm at in my
03:17:26 journey but um at this point in time i do not see the i i don't see the what's the word um congruency
03:17:38 between what the earliest church fathers taught and what they believe today okay and so we had a couple
03:17:45 conversation when you were gone about you know how they prayed in early christianity i've seen some
03:17:50 videos online too you could see i don't know if they're eastern orthodox but they they kind of pray
03:17:54 the way we do as muslims you know that they go here they go down they put their head to the floor
03:17:59 do you do you pray like that because it seems like early christianity is very similar to islam
03:18:05 yeah you know you do see jesus prostrated himself in prayer uh to the father um but we also see in
03:18:14 christian tradition that we were taught not to bend our knee on sundays right which is a day of 0.97
03:18:20 fellowship in christianity um because that was the day that symbolizes uh christ's resurrection
03:18:29 and so in honor of that we don't bend the knee on sunday but of course christians pray every day
03:18:35 and so what we see through our christian history is embracing praying standing up sitting down prostrate
03:18:42 on the floor uh there's no set hard rule that you have to pray in a certain position but it is
03:18:47 encouraged to pray with your face to the floor um in most instances it's a it's a way of humbling
03:18:54 yourself before god and there was a couple other things i don't want to expose like anything but i
03:18:59 remember uh we had a couple conversations and you you had noticed some similarities with early christianity
03:19:05 and islam i'm not i'm not sure if you want to talk about that you know uh say that say that again
03:19:10 when we were speaking uh we called a couple times and not just you you were never muslim but i remember
03:19:16 you you called me and we were talking about some of the similarities between early christianity and
03:19:20 islam and the way uh people dress for example do you remember that yeah i would agree do you still
03:19:27 adopt some of those values yeah that's what they're the ancient christians thought right the in fact if you
03:19:33 do some research you'll learn that muslims the way how muslim women dress they originally got that 1.00
03:19:41 from how christian and jewish women dress but unlike the muslims over time christian and jewish culture
03:19:49 have gotten away from these uh ancient traditions of how to dress you know and uh even today you know
03:19:57 men like tertullian uh men like um clement of alexandria men like all these ancient christians
03:20:04 uh they would look at the way how how even muslim women dress today with just the hijab with their 0.97
03:20:10 face exposed and say that you know um they really should cover their entire face like the the women 1.00
03:20:17 who wear the nikit what's it called in the keep niqab niqab yeah they would say that is the proper way 1.00
03:20:24 for a woman to carry herself right and you could see they still in jewish and christian culture they
03:20:28 still adopt that on marriage like when they get married on the wedding day they'll have their face
03:20:33 covered and stuff like this or the nuns for example in christianity which is an example of the most pious
03:20:37 women they cover their hair the way um an akabi would but it's only the most holy so you can understand 0.68
03:20:43 why muslims believe that all women so if there's an example like a nun of dressing the most pious and 0.99
03:20:49 righteous way that all women should adopt that what do muslims believe in regards to women muslim
03:20:56 women going away from the niqab and just wearing a hijab so the com is not required popular married 1.00
03:21:02 now muslim narrative on that so this is just uh what's factually true women are not required to 1.00
03:21:07 wear niqab it's a choice um and it's you know some people could say it's it's like a more extreme
03:21:13 version so you don't need to cover your face hijabi is required or a job is required for for women 1.00
03:21:18 and it's not just a head cover it covers your whole body and it's not supposed to show you know
03:21:22 your body the tightness of your body for example some western muslim people adopted and you could
03:21:28 see like they wear jeans with it or they wear a sweater and you could see your breasts like
03:21:32 imprinted under the sweater and then they cover their hair that's like a western adaptation of it
03:21:36 and that's not accurate the quran example if you want to be uh pious and everything hijab is from
03:21:42 it's from head to toe and it covers your hair and everything we don't need to wear niqab it's not 1.00
03:21:45 required but you can see a lot of women choose what it says is that what it says in the quran 1.00
03:21:50 that it's not required yeah niqab is not required hijab is okay interesting yeah and so people think 0.99
03:21:57 that like oh look at these a lot of uh people who demonize islam they look at niqabis and they like
03:22:02 look at this terrible thing that they have to do they usually choose to do it there's a lot of women 1.00
03:22:07 that will start wearing hijab and decide that okay i want to take it a step further and i want to wear
03:22:11 a niqab because i see that how empowered i am actually it's funny that feminists who dress 1.00
03:22:16 naked in the in america they think that they're empowered by showing off their body because my
03:22:21 body my choice all this when in fact the niqabs the cobbies and the hijabis they're empowered 1.00
03:22:27 because they're choosing to show how much they want to their uh to the world and they're saving
03:22:31 their beauty uh for their husband or they're you know they're saving it and not sharing it with the
03:22:36 entire world which is the right way to be empowered yeah i would agree 100 all of the uh every pretty
03:22:45 much everything that's come out of feminism has been horrible for society and has only led to 1.00
03:22:52 the destruction of society and so yeah you know it would be better for women to cover themselves 1.00
03:22:58 i mean can you think of all the give me some reasons why you think a woman covering her body would 1.00
03:23:03 be better for society because men are are naturally our gaze wanders everywhere like we have a concept
03:23:11 in islam called lower your gaze because they're not supposed to be looking around and that's the 1.00
03:23:14 quickest way there's there's zinnah of the eyes zinnah is sex out of wedlock and zinnah is you know 0.99
03:23:19 touching a woman that's not your your wife and all this so there could be zinnah of the eyes if you're
03:23:23 staring at like ogling a uh a woman or looking at porn uh and so if you're going to be looking around 0.96
03:23:29 at a lot of naked women your mind is going to wander and it's going to be filled with filth 1.00
03:23:32 right that's the quick porn for example is the quickest way that a soul can be corrupted because 0.88
03:23:36 you're filling your mind up with filth so if women were covered you're not going to you're not going 1.00
03:23:40 to fall to that as easily and it's going to protect women and it's a it's a reminder too like when i've
03:23:45 been to mecca a few times since we last spoke on stream and so many all the women are covered it's
03:23:50 like it does require the women have to be covered and you notice the difference in like where your mind 0.88
03:23:53 goes when i'm in miami and women are like half naked everywhere your mind is filled with whole 1.00
03:23:58 different things you're getting more likely to play music you're more likely to be you know a party
03:24:02 situation people are going to be drinking but when women are covered for example like you want 0.98
03:24:06 to open the door for them or when you're in the elevator with them you're standing far away
03:24:10 you're more respectful you're not you're not going to be mistreating them it's a reminder
03:24:14 that we should be protecting women and not using them for whatever selfish gains or lustful
03:24:20 thoughts we might have yeah that's definitely you know protecting men from the
03:24:25 the temptation of lust is probably the most important part or the the most significant
03:24:35 aspect of women covering themselves like that you know what i'm saying um yeah it helps 1.00
03:24:40 it helps both people another reason that i can think of is it also
03:24:48 makes the importance of having the baddie as a wife that disappears completely right when how many 0.99
03:24:59 dudes do you know i'm sure you can think of guys that you've known who've maybe liked a girl you know
03:25:07 what i'm saying linked a girl but was ashamed to claim claim her as a girlfriend because he was concerned
03:25:15 about what other men think oh she's not bad enough you feel me she's not you know it it completely
03:25:21 takes that out of the equation as well i think there are probably a lot of good women out there 1.00
03:25:26 who are getting passed up on who men would happily marry but because of their vanity their pride their
03:25:33 insecurities they won't marry these women because of what other people might think if all the women 1.00
03:25:40 were covered up and it no longer became a contest between men about who has the prettiest wife
03:25:46 um i i think the world would also be a better place and so that's another thing that i've thought
03:25:52 of that that dress code would help society that's a good point the the trophy wife concept does not 1.00
03:25:59 exist anymore you know it's it's that has no value in in society um but i i didn't i didn't quite
03:26:07 understand earlier what was the the specific doctrine or something what made you go from um
03:26:13 unitarian to trinitarian specific it was a book yeah so i i was reading the writings of the ancient
03:26:19 christians so for instance one of the criticisms that we see today coming from muslim the islam
03:26:25 community is how divided christianity is well they have to understand that that is a product of the
03:26:31 protestant reformation you know it wasn't like that for the grand majority of christian history
03:26:36 for over a thousand years there was only one church you know there wasn't the church of this
03:26:42 and the church of that and the church there was only one church and that church split into the east
03:26:47 and the west and then 600 years later the western church the roman catholic church had some defectors
03:26:54 who separated and wanted to do their own thing and they essentially i suppose you could say
03:27:01 the the precedent was set at the great schism but that protestant reformation is what birthed this
03:27:10 attitude of oh anybody can just pick up a bible read it understand it and if you disagree with what
03:27:16 the guy beside you is saying you have the authority to start your own church and so that's why we see
03:27:21 this proliferation of all these denominations but if you return to the past christians were you know
03:27:30 very united yeah they may have had small disagreements here and there but you can see that even within
03:27:36 islam right you can see small disagreements here and there on various things and and it was the same
03:27:41 for christianity at that point in time but when it came to you know the significant the important
03:27:47 doctrines they were all unified and it was like that for essentially a thousand years and um you know
03:27:54 so in realizing that really all of this just came from me studying the history of christianity
03:28:00 and so i was like okay i want to go back to a time when the church was unified when there was
03:28:04 only one church and to see what they taught and what they believe and my logic behind that is
03:28:11 is if anybody if there was ever a point in time where the church was not seeped in confusion and
03:28:19 in division it would have been in the very beginning after the church was uh you know started off by
03:28:27 the disciples and and the men that they appointed to come after them and so that's what i've done is
03:28:32 gone back to their teachings and it's provided a lot of clarity they explain they touch on pretty much
03:28:37 every topic you can think of everything from politics to raising children to you know anything
03:28:44 you can think of the trinity all these things they explain very clearly what empire or what year was
03:28:50 that where it was just the singular church uh so i would say that so there were no there were multiple
03:29:01 churches until the great schism of i believe it was in 1054 uh that's when we see a clear
03:29:09 distinction in two groups of people who call themselves christians and then looked at the
03:29:14 other group and said we are not in communion or in fellowship with those guys over there it would
03:29:21 have been in 1054 when the east and the west split the west being the roman catholic church and
03:29:26 the east being all the churches of the east um there were there was no eastern church it was it was
03:29:32 like how you when you think of the roman catholic church you think of one entity the the east maintained
03:29:40 the original structure it looked much more like what the original church looked like
03:29:45 so what is the truth about the council of nicaea in in what sense you're saying that a lot of people
03:29:52 cite that that that specific council and that's where the divide in christianity started in the
03:29:56 divide of the the doctrine of the trinity the the divide in christianity didn't start at the council
03:30:03 of nicaea um the only thing about the council of it so here the council of nicaea was convened for the
03:30:10 sake of tackling the arian heresy so remember earlier i mentioned this guy named arius who came up with
03:30:18 this teaching that jesus is not eternal eternally divine like he he basically came up with this
03:30:25 idea that jesus was a created being that god created him and that he didn't always exist and this is
03:30:32 essentially what jehovah witnesses believe today that they practice a form of arianism so do most
03:30:38 unitarians this was a heresy that i was sadly um you know deluded by for a little while there
03:30:44 and uh this council was convened primarily to you know for the church to come together and give a
03:30:54 united unanimous decision where this was um concerned and the overwhelming majority was of course that
03:31:04 um jesus is eternal and anyone preaching this arian stuff is a dangerous heretic that needs to be 1.00
03:31:12 kicked out of the church what arian stuff they started adding the idea are you talking about
03:31:16 like the arian race that was attributed to no no no no so uh it's called arianism uh because of the
03:31:25 man who came up with this doctrine we we don't see this doctrine present before this being taught by
03:31:32 anyone who's regarded a christian we as a christian we do see some fringe cults like jewish sects that
03:31:39 played with this idea they also denied these jew jewish cults and whatever they also denied that jesus
03:31:45 was born of a virgin in islam you guys teach that jesus was born as a of a virgin right we believe i
03:31:53 don't know i don't i don't i think we uh i'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure in islam you guys see that mary was
03:31:59 a virgin um when she so so that is not not jesus and islam 0.80
03:32:14 yes yes you're right well i see a lot of muslims saying w 0.84
03:32:20 aries here's the thing muslims actually don't agree with arians because arian still taught that 1.00
03:32:28 jesus created all things arian still taught that jesus was created first before all of creation
03:32:38 and then he created all things and then took on the form of a body so all the muslims saying w arias 0.92
03:32:44 w arias you guys don't agree with him at all you don't think that jesus created all things you think he
03:32:48 was just a man a prophet that was very holy but you really don't believe what arians taught 0.97
03:32:56 okay arias can you explain who is this i've never heard that this guy
03:33:03 arias so yeah so this was a guy who arose i believe in i'm not 100 sure either the late
03:33:13 uh third century or early fourth century he started teaching this this this doctrine
03:33:22 and uh yeah this is just how heresy works bro people make stuff up people read the bible they
03:33:29 do not subscribe to the teachings of the fathers of the faith that came before them they come up with
03:33:34 their own brand new ideas their own new divine revelations and then they start teaching it and we
03:33:40 see a lot of that going on today another perfect example of that um which was taught by the uh arab 0.87
03:33:47 guy that you you had on and even toward and you call this you call that i know you were trying to
03:33:54 you guys are trying to paint it as a conversation but i don't know if you realize this when you were
03:33:57 talking to zirka you called it a debate you said after the debate he i i even got it recorded i was
03:34:04 like see it was a debate but anyway yeah but there's a difference between a healthy debate
03:34:09 or a difference in opinion stuff like this and then uh attack and going back and forth
03:34:15 yeah but um yeah you could say it wasn't a nasty debate but it was still a debate nonetheless
03:34:21 and so him thinking that it wasn't going to be a debate that was just him not seeing what was
03:34:27 obvious to everybody else but um you know he was teaching some kind of one saved always save thing
03:34:32 like you don't need to practice righteousness and holiness to to go to heaven um that's also a
03:34:38 heresy that was invented um well first by a man named marcion uh he's the most famous guy who is
03:34:45 attributed to that belief and he was a heretic and then we see pop up again in popularity with the
03:34:51 protestant reformation and so yeah these are how heresies work a guy is just makes stuff up
03:34:59 they feel as if they have some kind of divine anointing by god and god is revealing some kind
03:35:05 of hidden truth to them that hasn't been revealed to the church previously
03:35:12 yeah why we attribute this belief to arias is because we just cannot find any evidence in
03:35:18 history of anyone else coming out of the church teaching this so where do you who do you align with
03:35:24 then uh now that you're returning to the internet um and i'm not asking this like they in terms of
03:35:30 like you need to pick a side but it's like a lot of them that's just where a lot of the online
03:35:35 christians they end up doing like they declare i'm a jehovah's witness i'm a american catholic i'm
03:35:40 an irish guy i'm a sir i'm a sir i had a cameraman he's like i'm a
03:35:48 serbian orthodox and it's like his identity um where where do you think you fit in who who are you
03:35:53 speaking to are you trying to convert other christians who are misguided or
03:36:09 or is it just people who are believe in early christians or is it is it for everybody
03:36:23 um you kind of lag lagged out on me for a second there but i think i caught the gist of yeah who's
03:36:52 your content for yeah you know i don't align with any of the mainstream denominations that we see
03:37:00 today um i just align with the early church what the early the church fathers taught you know um
03:37:08 that's that's the position that i'm taking i think it's the
03:37:13 the best way to save guard against heresy see the word heresy do you
03:37:22 know what the word heresy means somebody who rejects like somebody
03:37:36 well in islam we say a kafir like just somebody that you have to you disavow like somebody who's 0.99
03:37:40 sinning and it doesn't believe in the core fundamentals of christianity
03:37:43 okay okay all right so yeah so uh heresy just means a deviation from the original beliefs
03:37:54 and so logically the earliest beliefs we can find that is the only evidence we have of the orthodox
03:38:03 faith the the original belief orthodox just means right belief right right and so um that's that's my
03:38:11 approach why i trust the early christians you see like you think of it like a tree right history is
03:38:17 kind of like a tree a branch can get rotten here or there but the root has to be good you see if the
03:38:26 root is bad then the whole tree is bad and so that's why i feel very secure going i would i think it makes
03:38:35 more sense to have unity with the christians that study directly from the apostles than people today
03:38:44 who are just you know basically you know choosing a denomination and saying okay this denomination
03:38:52 is right i'm gonna go to their seminary their universities and learn from these teachers
03:38:56 but you can't find their beliefs tracing all the way back to the very beginning
03:39:00 and so that's what i've done there have been many christians throughout history that have taken
03:39:07 this approach and i know a number of christians today who have the exact same approach but is there
03:39:12 like a denomination with a logo and a name and all that no so you know we just say that we so is your
03:39:19 content for all christians is it for muslims is who do you who do you want to speak to 0.99
03:39:24 i want to speak to you bro okay that that's that's fair to me um is anything going to change with your
03:39:34 your content going forward like is it is it the same mission is it um what is going to be different
03:39:40 in your in your absence compared to now uh yeah you know i just feel as if i'm a bit wiser in the way i
03:39:49 articulate myself i'm a little bit more careful with the words i use i also am more mindful of
03:40:00 both sides of an argument it's not my desire to offend anybody i think coming out of the worldly
03:40:07 streamer culture the attitude is kind of you know stoke the flames make drama be contentious that's what
03:40:18 gets the views that's what gets the clicks and i carried that over into how i was trying to be
03:40:24 a advocate for christianity i realize now that that's not the proper way jesus says or let me not
03:40:32 say it's jesus but in the bible it's thought um this might be one of the apostles i'm i think it's jesus
03:40:39 though oh no i can look it up be at peace with all men essentially right uh where possible
03:40:48 yeah so the uh the verse is okay so this was paul it was in romans it says if it be possible as much as
03:41:00 lieth in you or yeah life and you be live peaceably with all men and so whenever we have an opera
03:41:09 of an opportunity to not stir up anger in somebody we should take that that route uh in the book of
03:41:15 proverbs it is it says i believe it is says something like a soft answer turn away wrath
03:41:22 but turns away wrath but you know a harsh word stares up anger so that's kind of my approach to
03:41:29 how i do content now and how i interact with people in general what do you think about what's your
03:41:35 opinion on the content world from stepping away and coming back i feel like it's uh in a lot of ways
03:41:39 it's the same but there are a lot of new things as well right just so you know i have a bunch of
03:41:43 questions for you too i don't know i know you're you've been streaming for a while but you had me
03:41:47 waiting for a while so i i i want to have a a full conversation with you if you can bear it okay well
03:41:54 i think uh i got some food i think it's at the door yeah because we have a lot of things that we
03:42:00 can talk about bro you know um appreciate it yeah all right yeah what do you think about the you know
03:42:09 go ahead ask me what do you got okay okay i have a list here of just things that i thought of while
03:42:17 i was waiting for the the stream but here let's turn it back on you what do you think are the biggest
03:42:22 criticisms that people have of you the biggest criticism like what are the biggest criticism
03:42:29 slash misconceptions um there's a lot there's a lot of people talking uh or you talking about my name
03:42:41 and a lot of them are not really worth addressing um the biggest mistake probably i guess i get fake
03:42:48 muslim quite a bit from from the liberals we were covering that earlier in the stream um i would say
03:42:53 that the most legitimate criticisms are probably like that i am speaking about things that i'm not
03:43:00 qualified to speak about i would say that i get that from my community um like right now my i'm feeling
03:43:07 tired and i was like thinking about i i know that jesus is from the the virgin mary but i was thinking
03:43:11 like okay what are the similarities of christianity the fact that he's the messiah and that we don't
03:43:16 think that he died and resurrected but that the body was swapped so i was trying to remember that
03:43:21 and then as i'm answering that people are are saying oh you don't know this and you're not
03:43:25 qualified so that's why i do a lot of time like that's why i'm in bosnia right now and uh i spent a
03:43:32 lot of time learning about islam and learning about the quran and speaking to people that are
03:43:37 more knowledgeable to me to to get to that point yeah but do you see the the wisdom the legitimacy
03:43:45 in that criticism though like even if you don't think it perfectly applies to you but it's not
03:43:50 like you you do acknowledge that it's always good to have someone who's more educated on the topic
03:43:57 by your side at the very least when you're talking about maybe not always by my side but i'm spending
03:44:01 more time and i've applied that criticism for example the reason that i destroyed moist critical
03:44:06 in the debate is because i prepared and so i want to go uh i want to spend the rest of this year
03:44:10 doing more reading and research and becoming more knowledgeable so that i'm i'm well versed in every
03:44:16 topic that i speak about especially because you know there are more people that are considering my
03:44:22 considering me like an authority on these subjects like more than um they were when we you were still
03:44:28 streaming yeah yeah have you ever had on like a legitimate christian apologist you know what is it what
03:44:37 is a christian apologist somebody who is like you know a seasoned scholar who's debated islam someone
03:44:45 who has been doing this for a long time not like a guy who just converted to the faith not like a guy
03:44:52 where the muslim by your left knows the bible better than him you know what i'm saying like um in that 0.94
03:45:00 interaction you had with that other guy up the muslim guy that was by your side you know he was he was
03:45:06 quoting versus with more accuracy than the other dude and i'm just saying have you had on a guy with
03:45:14 that kind of you know certification let's say well i don't need what is the certification because when
03:45:21 we bring on someone uh they always say someone else you're running from this guy but yeah sure i mean
03:45:25 for example um we'll bring that guy on that we challenged for debate earlier um the next stream yeah
03:45:31 yeah we'll do it like muscle manager says he wants to do it so we'll set it up okay all right yeah you
03:45:37 know um maybe i could reach out to sam and and see if he wants to do that but if not i know a couple
03:45:44 guys who are proper season debaters i'm sure you say that but there's going to be difference of
03:45:50 opinion a lot of people are going to say like why why is sam uh you know the the guy the sat an
03:45:56 apologist or whatever why is he a scholar and not others no i'm just saying sam is sam is just as
03:46:01 legit i'm i'm just saying you know it i don't know if you already have an avenue to contact sam and i
03:46:07 don't know sam that well but i do know other guys you know fairly well i have a stronger connection
03:46:15 with them that i do think would happily enter into the discourse yes yes there is the guy and i remember
03:46:22 it i was with sheikh with mom and jideon put out an open invitation to a debate with him and his
03:46:28 pastor they said i'll debate any muscle bro he's a he that guy doesn't see what i'm saying that's not
03:46:34 legit bro okay okay but who's who's the who's the criteria okay but here's my problem he has to be
03:46:41 he has to be a guy with pedigree in the field of debating muslim that dude that was probably his
03:46:47 first time ever debating a muslim but here's the thing here's the thing we didn't even debate they put 0.94
03:46:52 out an open invitation to debate a muslim on the quran yeah and then we accepted and then they 0.98
03:46:57 didn't do it and then the pastor said oh he's busy writing his book and then now i don't even know if 0.96
03:47:01 he's jideon's pastor anymore so that guy is not that guy is not bro he had jideon fucking he had 0.97
03:47:09 jideon celebrating hanukkah he had a menorah it's like i don't mean to make fun of him but that it's silly 0.98
03:47:14 to me that you're a christian celebrating jewish holidays that makes no sense man like that's very simple 0.99
03:47:18 stuff yeah yeah that's a very it's called judaizing and um it's also another heresy that
03:47:26 unfortunately christians sometimes fall into it's a very ancient heresy and it's something the church
03:47:34 clarified pretty much immediately because you can understand seeing that christians came out of
03:47:41 judaism in a sense right jesus was jew the initial christians were jewish people you can see how it
03:47:49 would be an easy stumbling block for some of them to want to hold on their jewish beliefs um and try
03:47:56 to kind of import that into christianity and so uh that's one of the earliest heresies we see in
03:48:03 christian history being debunked and you know the bible also does a very very good job at clarifying that
03:48:10 as well but that's just the thing when it with heresy and the bible it's you can twist the bible
03:48:16 to make it say almost anything and so uh yeah bro that's not a legit muslim debater you can't find a
03:48:23 so we'll do we'll do the the one we called out we'll do the other one we'll do it one at a time
03:48:27 though we'll do one at a time just one just just just i mean you don't gotta do all of them i'm just
03:48:32 saying let's get one i mean from from my point of view you guys are never gonna you guys are never
03:48:37 gonna be satisfied y'all uh y'all waxed everybody and all that's left i'm not making it seem like
03:48:43 that but it's like you you guys from my point of view and i think this is justified perspective
03:48:48 there's always someone else oh it's this guy this guy this guy you know we'll do one at a time and
03:48:53 shallow it's gonna be uh in my from my opinion you're still yet to do the first one so it's kind
03:48:59 of like the jake paul boxing thing you know jake paul as far as he's concerned he's boxed a bunch of guys
03:49:05 but the entire world knows that he hasn't boxed a legit boxer once okay in fact i mean i guess some
03:49:10 people might say tommy fury's a legit boxer but he won so sure so yeah we'll we'll do it all
03:49:20 we'll do it um yeah okay uh do you have another question
03:49:26 yeah yeah all right so i was watching a recent interview you did with this other guy
03:49:31 and you say that you ultimately want to get to making movies like that's your end goal you want
03:49:38 to create films is there anything in particular that you just want to be like a quentin tarantino
03:49:48 and just make fictional just entertaining movies or do you want to cover specific things
03:49:54 i want to make a movie that reflects pop culture and um one of the i think my first movie is going
03:50:01 to be uh it's going to cover pop culture the same way taxi driver did in 1973 you know it captured a
03:50:07 mood and a feeling of a time that people weren't really able to describe and it was captured uh with
03:50:14 all the benefits that film has with cinematography lighting music it captured like a specific time in
03:50:20 new york city in a certain bubbly feeling post vietnam war this lonely guy captured the ideas
03:50:25 of loneliness of uh seeking masculinity and um in the industrial age all this stuff i want to capture
03:50:31 a mood that people can't quite put their finger on but they all know okay okay well yeah man i'll be
03:50:39 waiting to see that come to fruition that sounds very interesting yeah but there's a lot more to do
03:50:45 here first with the streaming you know i want to i'm on a good run right now and i don't want to stop
03:50:50 and since we first started like you know streaming a lot i was still on youtube if you remember that
03:50:56 and so it's been ever since that i've like been recovering the ban i don't know if you know i got banned
03:51:02 on instagram a couple months back so i was like i'm fighting an uphill battle you didn't know that
03:51:05 i was banned during the month of ramadan was crazy i was interviewing a muslim sheikh 0.91
03:51:09 abu um abu temia or student of knowledge you can call him in mecca wearing the garment mecca
03:51:17 is the place where we perform something called umana where you walk around the kaba and all this
03:51:20 it's like uh it's a pilgrimage and i'm there i'm literally wearing the the garments you're supposed
03:51:25 to wear i'm in mecca interviewing him and during the interview i get a notification my instagram is
03:51:30 banned and i just continue the interview and i finish the stream and i'm like i just got banned
03:51:33 like they didn't tell me why my it was just wiped um well so it's like i have to fight an uphill
03:51:38 battle and i i i have a lot more to to keep doing before i can i can stop this yeah oh i hear you
03:51:47 you and you and destiny fell out huh you can't be i don't believe that i can be friends with the
03:51:53 enemies of islam so like because there was a point where you were going on this stream i mean i was
03:52:01 kind of out of the loop as you know i was taking a big break from the internet so i don't know how long
03:52:05 ago this happened but i do remember a point where you'd be on destiny's streams you know somewhat
03:52:11 regularly and next thing i know last time i checked you know destiny's not saying the nicest things
03:52:19 about you um what what happened you know i can go back and forth about what it was i think he was um
03:52:28 what was he doing oh he said this is the first thing this is what stopped it he's like uh
03:52:33 like you're not qualified like no pious woman would want to get married to you you're like you're not 0.99
03:52:40 the qualified man to marry like a virgin woman the woman that you desire as a wife and i'm like who
03:52:45 are you going to talk to me about this like you ditched your family you left your son in vegas
03:52:49 to be a streamer in florida and play overwatch and then you know then it got personal and we
03:52:54 just stopped talking then he blocked me on twitter and then yeah now he's i don't know like the stuff
03:53:00 he's doing now he's like making fun of dead people the guy that got shot at the trump rally i think
03:53:05 that's despicable like i don't think that's he's like oh it's edgy it's not edgy he's like oh he's not
03:53:09 just a guy he tweeted things that i disagree with and he's a trump supporter he's not just a guy
03:53:15 so you get to the point where if i died based on his logic he would laugh and make jokes about it
03:53:19 because i'm a trump supporter you know this is absolutely ridiculous you know if the people that
03:53:24 i disagree with politically died i would say like rest in peace i wouldn't i wouldn't yeah i wouldn't 0.93
03:53:29 laugh yeah it just goes to show how extreme um this this like tribalism cult mind
03:53:39 has gotten um in a way it's kind of like what moist critical was saying about
03:53:48 you know children being mutilated and pretending they're the opposite sex and all that it's uh because 0.99
03:53:58 they know that they're safe pandering to a certain crowd they abandon all morality they abandon all
03:54:07 like nuance and they feel comfortable just going to the most extreme position in that camp because
03:54:14 they know they'll never lose their supporters so long as they they don't give any they don't shoot
03:54:21 any bail to the other side you know i'm saying and so in a way those two things are are similar but
03:54:27 that was crazy how trump got shot you know at first i thought it was fake i'll be rude but when it first
03:54:33 first first first happened i'm not talking i'm talking like for for like five minutes i thought it
03:54:38 was fake because when it when it first happened i was like this is insane like what are the the chances but
03:54:46 then i saw the pictures like i saw his air i saw the the blood on the bleachers all that and i was
03:54:52 like that's insane bro like the the statistical chances of something like that happening when you
03:54:58 first saw it did you automatically think it was real or you did you not think it was like dude this
03:55:03 is out of a bad movie i thought it was real the whole time and some people would say that i have
03:55:08 a conspiracy brain i think everything's fake but the whole time i i believed it i i can't i went live
03:55:14 the whole time i went live for like eight hours when it happened and covered all of it yeah nah dude
03:55:19 it was it sounded unreal his ear it missed by an inch like what are the chances you know divine
03:55:24 interventions divine intervention it had to be it had to be good also to bring up uh destiny earlier
03:55:31 this dude um this dude supports genocide he's a complete zionist he's a shell for power whatever 0.91
03:55:36 power structure there is he went to he literally went to israel like last month uh this guy's just
03:55:41 sucking off zionists to get more money it's embarrassing i don't i anybody who supports 1.00
03:55:46 israel is not a friend of mine they're an enemy that's the way i see it there's no dancing around 1.00
03:55:51 it uh myron and i disagree upon that i understand his point of view he's like i'm a free speech
03:55:54 absolutist i will still have these people to be able to discuss uh it's to the point when what's
03:55:59 happening is so abhorrent that i i can't see these people as like acquaintances if you support israel 0.99
03:56:06 your anatomy yeah me i'm super uneducated about the dispute going on between israel and palestine
03:56:13 i read a short book that tried to explain the beef um my initial reaction when uh hamas bombed israel
03:56:25 or when they came and attacked people you know they they killed women they killed children and all of
03:56:30 that my initial reaction was that's messed up you'd agree right like before wait the thing that popped
03:56:38 it all off that initial incident you'd agree that innocent women and children being killed are you
03:56:44 talking about october 7th i guess i guess yeah i'm not that invested in this this like time this us part of
03:56:53 the 2024 storyline like i'm i'm not educated to talk on it like that i don't know dates i don't
03:57:00 that wasn't the inciting incident see that's the narrative that israel wants so that they can
03:57:04 justify the genocide that they are still committing to this day uh october 7th almost a year ago it's
03:57:08 crazy how much time has passed that's not the inciting incident uh this genocide has been going
03:57:12 on for a long time they've been it started in 1948 it's been happening no i agree with you after
03:57:18 i read that book um given like a brief overview i see that this is a very complex thing that's been
03:57:24 happening for a long time but i'm saying from at that point when the incident happened i had not yet
03:57:29 read that information and so as far as i'm concerned you know this just is like a random thing that's
03:57:38 just hitting the news and you could see how a person's initial reaction to that would be oh that's
03:57:44 messed up all right like women innocent women and children are being slaughtered yeah well it's like
03:57:52 the native americans shooting arrows back at the colonizers coming in america like it's not they
03:57:56 painted a specific narrative and i actually believe that israel allowed october 7th to happen because
03:58:01 they just wanted to just they just wanted to take gaza they want to take we want to completely get rid 0.97
03:58:05 of palestine and so they need an inciting incident they need that for the story the same reason that
03:58:10 um i believe 9-11 was set up by israel so to justify america going into iraq and iran
03:58:16 um the same vietnam the gulf of tonka resolution you could look at world war ii pro harbor you need
03:58:22 to start war by deception you need to have some sort of inciting incident where you know look at this
03:58:28 innocent people are dying but if you really look what happened they took some hostages they offered to
03:58:32 release them israel said no publicly and i think they allowed october 7th to happen because they
03:58:38 they just wanted to do exactly what they're doing to this day yeah you know and like i i think that's
03:58:44 a very legitimate um argument to make i think it's very plausible right uh again me not being behind
03:58:52 the scenes i don't know but i've heard what people say said about israel's iron dome being pretty much
03:58:58 impenetrable like there is no way that they didn't see this coming and so said they were 9-11 like how we
03:59:05 have the best defense security in the world and we're not going to see that two planes got box
03:59:09 cutters all this stuff none of it makes any sense and so it must have been allowed or they probably
03:59:14 knew about something same thing with trump getting shot like it's so implausible that the former 0.99
03:59:19 president like some random dude on discord he's actually like a destiny fan he's like jerking off 0.99
03:59:25 the porn and he's 21 years old um liberal guy who hates trump he gets on a roof and the secret 0.97
03:59:29 service doesn't see him like there must have been somebody on the inside that was tipped off or
03:59:34 allow this to happen because they wanted to uh they wanted to control yeah no like i said like i think
03:59:42 it's very it's very possible um but yeah you know oh i guess where i wanted to go with this conversation
03:59:51 is uh man it it feels something feels like when i look on twitter bro the amount of
04:00:04 just anti-palestine anti-israel conversation that's going on it does feel like
04:00:14 you know it's this is what the people who control these avenues of conversation this is what they want
04:00:23 they want people to just build up hatred into in their hearts even to the point where we can't just as
04:00:31 humans empathize with the innocents that are being slaughtered on both sides you know what i mean it's
04:00:39 like a point where people who are pro israel don't want to acknowledge the atrocities that are happening
04:00:44 to the people in gaza and the people are pro palestine don't want to acknowledge the atrocities
04:00:49 that are happening to just regular men and women who play have no nothing to do with the decisions
04:00:56 being made at the government level in israel you know it just turned us all into either um anti-israel
04:01:05 people or anti-palestine people and it's i don't know man it's something about it just seems super
04:01:12 demonic yeah i mean what's demonic is is what they're spreading right we have this in common
04:01:18 this is why i believe in having some sort of unifying uh community which is the love speech
04:01:23 community is christians and and muslims who know that zionism is where most of this demonic and where 1.00
04:01:30 most of demonic entities originate from right zionists did a good job of spreading this idea 1.00
04:01:34 called judeo-christian values in america this what is judeo-christian values christians believe jews
04:01:40 killed jesus so how could you have a shared value if you if they if you believe that jews killed your god
04:01:45 how are you going to hold hands together and you know and unite when you have completely different
04:01:50 ideologies they literally conflict each other islamic christianity actually there's a lot in common
04:01:54 of course we both believe in uh that jesus was a messenger sent by god we both believe jesus was born of
04:01:58 the virgin mary uh jews believe that uh mary was uh was i think they believed mary was a prostitute
04:02:04 right they they disrespect a lot of these people there's more in common with islamic christianity
04:02:09 than um than judaism and christianity and they did this to subvert the west i don't i don't agree 0.94
04:02:15 with that term judeo-christian value christ uh america was founded on christian value exactly i i agree
04:02:21 with that completely but every every conservative politician gets on stage and they not even that they get
04:02:26 on stage like judeo-christian values what is that like what is that exactly and you see that all
04:02:31 these politicians are funded by israel all of them have undying allegiance to israel they say israel's
04:02:36 our greatest ally why what do we get as americans like i'm gonna ask you like what do we get from israel
04:02:44 yeah again like i'm i'm not very informed on when it comes to israel and all that well the answer is
04:02:50 nothing like we don't get anything from israel like all we do what we get from again as america
04:02:57 but you should know that like you should know that as an american voter you're raising a family
04:03:02 and every source i can tell i'm not seeing it as far as what i can tell i'm not seeing what we're
04:03:07 getting from that you know it appears that america is just giving aid to israel and there's um i don't
04:03:15 know what the equal exchange is or if there's any exchange there's no trade there's no benefit there's
04:03:20 nothing all we do is we have military bases surrounding iran um we're always involved in
04:03:25 the middle east in order to defend israel and we get nothing in return we give them billions of
04:03:28 dollars all our politicians are owned by them um and they've compromised so many people in government
04:03:34 and the media and we get nothing in return so i mean to be fair though that's the relationship
04:03:41 america has with a lot of countries though there are many war-torn countries that we just pour money
04:03:47 into that at least on paper you know for the the average american citizen to observe we're not seeing
04:03:55 what we're getting in return so yeah but you know um i don't think israel is unique where that's
04:04:00 concerned they are like yes america does um too much world policing but the biggest lobbies in america
04:04:07 are owned by israel apac is the biggest lobby they have the most amount of money and they brag on
04:04:11 their website about how 98 of the politicians that they fund win their elections they are the most
04:04:16 powerful lobby in america that's a fact um not only that they control i mean we can go into details
04:04:22 about like who controls the banks and the media but all this but it's also it's overwhelmingly dominated
04:04:26 by zionists in america you can see that in all forms of of control in the banks and the media and
04:04:32 government um in hollywood not even just the news in hollywood in the movies it's overwhelmingly
04:04:37 dominated by zionists and they they don't have allegiance to america they have allegiance to 0.60
04:04:41 israel that's what they put first ben shapiro for example he's the example of uh you know christian
04:04:46 not a christian but a conservative commentator and he's always talking he's apparently an american
04:04:50 he has allegiance to israel he has dual allegiance right because zionists they don't put america first 1.00
04:04:55 which is what trump was saying in the beginning like let's put america first they want to put israel
04:04:59 first and america second they're going to put israel's needs before they put america's needs
04:05:03 so none of these people should have any sort of influence or power in america as far as i'm
04:05:09 concerned these people are are traitors they're committing treason get out like if you if you want
04:05:14 to put israel first if you have birthright because they have the ability to go back to israel whenever
04:05:17 they want all right design is they can if they commit a crime like if they commit pedophilic acts or
04:05:22 something they could commit a crime and you know they're felon they can they have birthright they can just go
04:05:26 to israel and then stay there that's it's that's completely messed up so that means that they can 0.97
04:05:31 do whatever crimes they want across the world and then as soon as they get caught go to israel and 0.99
04:05:35 then hide and you can see all there's all these uh pedophiles for example that once they get caught
04:05:39 they just go hide in israel because israel is not gonna convict them yeah man that's that's that's
04:05:47 some interesting stuff like i i would have to read up more about all of that but one thing you said
04:05:52 that i do agree with 100 is that here in america america should be priority number one for its
04:06:01 citizens you know i'm saying like you got to look after your own household before you can look after 1.00
04:06:06 anybody else and so yeah you know i'm i'm not a pro israel person like i'm not a pro i'm a pro jesus
04:06:16 person that's that's my allegiance you know what i mean i'm a pro jesus person and i'm a pro american
04:06:22 person let's go and i'm approaching make a person because i you know i came from jamaica i want to
04:06:26 see america do well i want to see jamaica do well i want people to turn to christ um and so yeah i
04:06:33 guess that's a part of the reason i haven't become so very invested also it's hard for me to invest
04:06:39 myself into something where there's clearly a lot of manipulation of the narrative on
04:06:44 both sides i think you know there are a lot of people invested in this conflict there are a lot
04:06:50 of people who want people to believe a certain thing a certain way there are several psyops going
04:06:56 i think and so it's kind of it just seems so radioactive to me all i can do is kind of look from
04:07:02 a distance and grieve for the the people who are are hurting as a result of it you know what i'm
04:07:09 saying yeah i understand what you're saying but i mean it's pretty easy i mean as a christian i
04:07:15 don't think it's hard to find like who you're gonna side with this conflict right even the palestinians 1.00
04:07:20 are 90 muslim there's 10 christians being genocided right now there's a lot of christians in palestine 0.94
04:07:24 israel is pretty much all jews it's pretty much all jewish people and if you look at what they believe in
04:07:29 they disrespect jesus they spit on them they spit on christians in israel you know that like christians 0.98
04:07:33 will try to to go to church and you can see israelis literally spitting on them they killed i mean you 0.89
04:07:38 believe i don't believe that i believe the body was swapped but you believe they killed that jews
04:07:42 killed jesus correct uh do i oh yeah that's what the bible teaches clearly okay so okay so how could
04:07:49 you how could we uh if that's their religion like they they killed well god but i mean these jews 1.00
04:07:57 didn't kill jesus you know the jews from 2 000 years ago did and here's the thing i don't need 0.95
04:08:03 to like look but they reject him as the messiah i understand that the ones today didn't do it they
04:08:08 rejected us i'll give you an example though right you were on instrument muhammad hijab or i'm not sure
04:08:13 his name he said it's better to be a sodomite muslim than a christian like that to me um is just as good 1.00
04:08:22 as a spit on in the face of christianity as far as i'm concerned i i understand where you're coming 0.98
04:08:27 from but what he's describing is that shirk is the greatest sin in islam which is disbelief somebody
04:08:33 anybody who associate partners with god that's the biggest sin uh what's the biggest sin in 0.92
04:08:37 christianity still it still it sounds crazy to me it does it does sound it does i would rather hang 0.99
04:08:43 out with a muslim any day than you know someone participated in that kind of uh sexual perversion so 1.00
04:08:49 to hear a muslim say that they think you it'd be better for you to be sleeping with men but be 0.98
04:08:55 muslim than to be a christian it kind of feels two-faced that's all i'm saying because in one 0.94
04:09:01 in some instances i hear a lot of like people in islam trying to preach unity between christianity
04:09:08 and islam and then i hear guys like that trying to say wild stuff like that yeah i i mean i i wouldn't
04:09:16 say that personally uh but what he's saying is is true islamically like shirk is the greatest sin 1.00
04:09:21 right so that supersedes that sin supersedes the rest of sin and i think christians believe the same
04:09:26 thing like right what's the greatest sin in christianity i suppose it would have to be to
04:09:32 break the first commandment right which is what um you know have no other gods before me exactly so by
04:09:42 that logic you know believing in multiple gods or believing in you know disbelieving in christianity
04:09:49 that is worse than being a sodomite by that logic no because here in christianity like for instance you 0.97
04:09:57 can't be a gay christian you know i'm saying now you might be someone who who has to battle with 1.00
04:10:03 homosexual desires but he kind of made it sound like you can still be a muslim and be gay 0.87
04:10:08 in in christianity it's all or nothing all in all out kind of thing and so is that true doesn't jesus
04:10:14 save there's there's everything it doesn't jesus save like there's the fact is like there's christ
04:10:19 everybody sins right being gay is a sin you can repent no being gay is like being in adultery or 0.87
04:10:25 being in fornication it's an ongoing we're talking about someone who is actively participating in that 0.97
04:10:31 lifestyle we're not talking about someone who may have you know perverted desires or maybe you fell
04:10:38 into temptation and then ask for forgiveness we're talking about someone who's living that lifestyle
04:10:43 you know the kind of people that hate you and me on twitter you know i'm saying these you can't be 1.00
04:10:49 that and christian at the same time so unless unless you repent you could be a repenting faggot like 1.00
04:10:54 that's as long as that happens and i understand what you're saying for example i'd rather live in 1.00
04:10:57 a neighborhood of christians in a neighborhood of fags there's like no doubt in my mind there's that's 1.00
04:11:01 not even a question i was even speaking to my friend warner mussel lanson earlier about this like 0.99
04:11:05 would you rather your son i asked him would you rather your son be gay or be christian or be a 0.88
04:11:10 gay muslim or a christian and like if you follow islamic logic they have to say gay muslim me like 0.98
04:11:16 i'm not gonna lie and this is not even islamically accurate and maybe i need to improve i would any day 0.91
04:11:20 it's not even i would be lying if i if i said i would rather have a gay muslim son than a christian
04:11:26 son i would take the christian son any day like it's it's not perfect right i have to work on that you
04:11:32 know but it's i would be a liar i don't know if you do man some might say that's just common sense
04:11:37 right there but you know well that's that's if you follow the logic that's the greatest sin is
04:11:42 disbelief and that and you believe the same thing disobedience in christianity disobedience is synonymous
04:11:49 with disbelief so you can't be a disobedient christian you can make mistakes everyone makes
04:11:56 mistakes everyone sins everyone falls short of the glory but those mistakes grieve you you have
04:12:02 sorrow over them you're caught you feel guilty about them you confess them you ask for forgiveness and you
04:12:07 make a sincere effort not to make the same mistake again um but you know you can't just be living in
04:12:14 that life and claiming that you're a christian and actually you're in the ancient christians
04:12:20 taught very clearly where it is that disobedience that disobedience and disbelief are the same thing
04:12:27 they're they're synonymous right um you know in the bible it says to love god is to obey god
04:12:34 you know what i mean it's uh you you can't which would mean then to hate god is to disobey him
04:12:42 you know what i'm saying that's uh it's a clear line of logic and so yeah you can't be willfully 0.84
04:12:48 rebellious while still considering yourself well not okay but when someone says a gay muslim that
04:12:57 means like a muslim who professes la ilaha illallah that there's one god i bear witness that uh there's 0.94
04:13:03 only one god and muhammad was a prophet saying that and then like committing acts that are sinful 1.00
04:13:08 and repenting even the regardless of gay or anything if you say you drink alcohol and you repent and then
04:13:13 you're you're you feel you know you show repentance you do it you could be an alcoholic muslim that's 0.97
04:13:18 still better than being a christian by islamic logic yeah like you can't be an alcoholic christian
04:13:24 you know what i'm saying i think i think most christians would disagree with you not the early
04:13:30 church and not the bible the bible says no drunkard shall inherit the kingdom of god but you also believe
04:13:36 that jesus saves and jesus died for your sin so like if you sin and then repent like what's the what's the
04:13:40 issue no but here's the thing if you repent you're not an alcoholic yeah then you stop drinking then
04:13:47 you drink an alcoholic is somebody who is ongoingly getting drunk right you're you're you haven't
04:13:54 repented if you get drunk today and then you say dear lord i'm sorry then you get drunk tomorrow
04:14:00 then you say dear lord i'm sorry they again it you haven't repented but alcoholics still believe
04:14:06 that they're like being an alcoholic they still say like oh i'm 20 years sober i'm an alcoholic
04:14:11 they still go to an alcoholics anonymous and say that like it's something that they don't really
04:14:15 ever get rid of it's something that's why they keep the chips even if they're not actively drinking
04:14:18 they're still alcoholics same reason you could be that's that's a culture though that's not christianity 1.00
04:14:25 yeah but like a dude who's a faggot like he could repent and still like have faggot feelings and he 1.00
04:14:30 doesn't act on it right but he he repents and he regrets it but still mentally he's a faggot you know 1.00
04:14:34 know that could be the same logic well personally i don't believe that someone who maybe has that 0.99
04:14:42 kind of a perverse um feeling you know towards the same sex is permanently bound to have those feelings
04:14:50 i believe that those feelings can be overcome by the power of god but say but say that person died
04:14:58 before he fully overcame it right but he still believed in the shahada he still believed that 0.96
04:15:02 la ilaha illallah there's one god by that logic like he has a better chance of going into heaven
04:15:09 than a christian than a disbeliever that's that's islamic logic no yeah yeah no i understand and i
04:15:15 think the same logic applies to christianity and so i i understand why people thought that that was
04:15:19 inflammatory um and i i personally don't say stuff like that because you know my opinion is like i'm
04:15:24 not going to be the one judging on judgment day so why would i place judgment on others uh but what i
04:15:28 can see is what we choose in this life and the biggest problems that we face in this life i think
04:15:33 all the problems stem back to israel i think every single problem stems back to zionism like everything
04:15:36 in terms of lust in terms of porn but you know a rabbi owns porn hub oh really yeah there's uh we 0.93
04:15:43 can go on all you should um the talmud says some very uh like their their values do not align at all 0.54
04:15:49 like christian and muslim values are so similar or so so well that wouldn't be surprising if that's
04:15:55 true i don't know if it is i haven't verified it for myself but if it's true it wouldn't be surprising
04:16:00 because not too long ago i heard there was like a panel of people talking i think jordan peterson
04:16:05 was a was on that panel and there was some kind of a jewish you know he was i think he's like a famous
04:16:12 person who happens to also be jewish i don't know if he's a theologian or anything but he was saying
04:16:17 that watching there was nothing wrong with watching porn you know jordan peterson said that yeah he was
04:16:23 saying he was saying something along the lines of it's not adultery because you're not actually
04:16:28 physically engaged in in sex and that's something jesus clarified you know jesus said if you even look
04:16:34 at a woman to lust after her you've already committed adultery which would qualify jordan peterson
04:16:40 pretends to be a christian for views while he works for ben shapiro who's one of the biggest zionists in 0.87
04:16:44 the country he's owned by daily wire daily wire is owned by ben shapiro who's who wears a yarmulke and he
04:16:51 has allegiance to israel he says israel first he says that he's he pushes judeo-christian values
04:16:57 right he's owned by him so this is why jordan peterson is a zionist too this is why he always
04:17:02 talks positively about what is what do you what is a zionist i'm not even sure we i have the same
04:17:09 definition yeah zionist is somebody that shows allegiance to israel that believes that there
04:17:12 should be an ethno state and that it's israel that a jewish ethno state of israel
04:17:16 a jewish ethno state of israel so basically you're saying a zionist is someone who believes
04:17:23 that only um blood lying jews should live in the region of israel that's uh it's it's a political 0.63
04:17:32 movement you know it's uh you could consider it something like similar let me i'll read the i don't
04:17:37 want to butcher it it's a jewish nationalist movement that has goal and creation of the support of jewish 0.94
04:17:45 national state in palestine um palestine aka now called israel so yeah it's a it's a political
04:17:51 movement that says that the jews need an ethno state of israel interesting okay well yeah you know
04:18:02 i don't know what else to say on that you know it's uh it's some very crazy stuff happening in this
04:18:10 world bro yeah and the more you like you look down the rabbit hole you see like um
04:18:16 you see how it all it all goes back to the same same place every time yeah i guess i'm kind of more
04:18:22 of a like control what you can control kind of thing you know i can't be bothered to be worried
04:18:27 about things outside of my control and whatever you know some guy's doing in some dark room you know
04:18:37 whatever i can't control that you know i can just control how i live and the people i surround
04:18:42 myself with and who you know what i teach my children yeah so i mean i would i would consider
04:18:49 these people design us like enemies of your beliefs i think it's like if if they believe they they
04:18:54 completely they reject jesus as the messiah they don't think he they they believe in their own messiah
04:18:58 so that's what we that's what we agree upon this is what i like the unity of um we both believe that jesus
04:19:04 will return to defeat the antichrist like that we we um we we agree upon that they believe their
04:19:11 messiah is different see the jews initially rejected jesus they saw jesus and he approached
04:19:16 them with uh poor clothes jesus never was flashy and the jews believe okay well the prophet needs to 0.88
04:19:21 be flashy he needs to have gold he needs to have a throne all this and so they rejected him and they
04:19:24 cast him away that's why i don't even i don't even consider jesus to be a jew because uh he was never
04:19:30 he never like faith-wise he wasn't he was rejected by the no he was he was a he was a perfect
04:19:36 like follower of the torah until death yeah until until they rejected him and then
04:19:42 no until death up until death because his death marked the beginning of the new covenant so he truly
04:19:49 was he followed the torah but i mean don't they you need to have a bar mitzvah
04:19:53 um a bar mitzvah well that's not mentioned in the torah so i don't know if that's a requirement of
04:20:02 god i think that might actually be more of like a cultural jewish tradition that developed over time
04:20:09 but i've read the entire old testament i see no mention of a bar mitzvah but his beliefs that doesn't
04:20:16 even that doesn't make sense because jews don't believe in heaven and hell they don't believe in that 1.00
04:20:20 like they they don't have the concept believe in the resurrection they believe in the the the
04:20:25 not the resurrection of jesus but the resurrection of the dead yeah they do um yeah that's why the
04:20:33 resurrection of jesus is so important by the way you know why it's not like oh when you say oh we
04:20:39 believe jesus is the messiah just like you yes jesus being the chosen one of god because the word messiah
04:20:47 just means anointed the chosen jesus being the chosen one of god it paul said it like this he said
04:20:55 if the resurrection didn't happen then it's all for nothing you know what i'm saying because that's
04:21:02 what christianity teaches us to look forward to is the resurrection of the dead right christianity teaches
04:21:09 that oh when we die our soul goes down into hades and we await uh our resurrection into perfect bodies
04:21:19 like the body that jesus was resurrected into in which we will experience immortality right so this
04:21:26 idea of you dying and going to heaven this is not um the traditional view this is more of a more
04:21:33 modern christian kind of view but if he was a perfect practicer of the torah then um it doesn't
04:21:40 seem like he he would did he practice the sabbath on saturday yeah 100 did he what else did you did he
04:21:46 spin the dreidel the dreidel he didn't wear a yarmulke no i don't see any of that in the torah bro
04:21:55 where do they get all this stuff uh these are traditions that have developed cultural culturally over
04:22:02 time it doesn't mean that they're necessarily bad or wrong or wicked or anything like that but it's
04:22:07 just not in the torah so for jesus to be considered a perfect jew in his keeping of the law he needs to
04:22:16 keep the laws it was articulated and the law doesn't talk about these are the first five books of the
04:22:21 bible it doesn't talk anything about dreidels or yarmulkes or anything like that you know they were
04:22:27 taught that they are supposed to wear tassels on the four corners of their garments they weren't supposed
04:22:31 to eat certain foods they had to observe the sabbath they had to be circumcised on the eighth
04:22:36 day and etc etc things like that and jesus did all of those there's someone uh in the community there's
04:22:43 a unitarian christian that's saying uh he wants to talk to you should do you want to do that another
04:22:48 time yeah we can do it another time he's a he's a good he's uh um he's a good guy but yeah he's in the
04:22:55 chat spamming it um yeah i'm getting i'm getting tired man i want to do you have any more um was
04:23:02 that all your your questions uh you know i kind of wanted to talk about i saw in that interview you
04:23:09 did with that one dude he's like a really popular twitch streamer apparently he's a gamer um plays
04:23:15 rainbow siege or something like that oh jinx he did five yeah he did five months ago what's his name uh
04:23:20 the jinxie yeah yeah that guy you you know you had said some stuff about depression and i used to
04:23:29 have that stance but i've recently changed that stance on depression and i kind of wanted to go
04:23:36 into that with you a little bit did you want to talk about that and we yeah yeah what do you agree
04:23:41 and disagree with on that one it's been a while so yeah so i i used to you know kind of be of that you
04:23:47 know do push-ups feel better suck it up push it down like get focused on something be too busy to
04:23:55 be depressed kind of thing um and me personally i've never suffered with like depression or anxiety
04:24:04 or anything like that personally i mean i think we've all been sad before right and we've all been
04:24:09 anxious before yeah well i would never say that i was ever in a place where like i'm thinking i need to
04:24:14 go see a therapist or a doctor or get medicine or anything like that but um you know i've been on
04:24:21 have you ever heard of the carnivore diet of course yeah joe rogan does that yeah yeah so like literally
04:24:28 yesterday i passed one month of like strict carnivore haven't cheated once right um and
04:24:35 something that science is revealing to us like the latest science regarding depression has revealed that
04:24:42 depression is usually caused by an inflammation of the brain right depression anxiety a lot of mental
04:24:51 illnesses are caused by inflammation of the brain and a lot of the foods that we eat and i'm not saying
04:24:57 like everybody right now needs to go carnivore or anything like that you know and i'm not saying that
04:25:02 it's something you need to necessarily do for a long period of time or forever anything like that
04:25:07 but what's interesting is a lot of the foods that we eat especially the processed foods that we eat
04:25:15 well even some of the plant foods they cause a lot of inflammation in our body um and that inflammation
04:25:21 it goes all over our body it causes aches and pains and skin rashes and acne and all these things
04:25:28 and something else that it contributes to is inflammation of the brain and even though i wasn't
04:25:37 a depressed person before or an anxious person before i've noticed bro a significant change
04:25:47 in my mental state like i haven't had a bad day in a month and some bad stuff has happened you know i've
04:25:55 been in annoying situations things that used to like really bother me and piss me off or or you know
04:26:02 made me upset for longer periods of time they just like roll right off of me you know and i know that's
04:26:10 not me doing anything different in any other area of my life it was bizarre and so i just wanted to say
04:26:17 that because i do think that there is something going on physiologically in the brains of people
04:26:26 which lead to depression and if you uh if anyone like ears perked up by what i just said after this
04:26:32 stream just type in carnivore diet cured my depression what you're saying is true but like
04:26:38 it's not something that you can just catch from the sky like you can get depressed if you have a bad diet
04:26:42 if you're playing video games 12 hours a day and you're eating cheetos and you're smoking cigarettes and
04:26:46 coffee and you're just putting monster like and your body's filled with junk then your brain's going
04:26:51 to be slower you're going to be in a vegetative state and you're not going to be as active and
04:26:55 your brain's not going to be working properly it's more common that you're going to you're going to
04:26:58 feel depressed because your your body's not filled with the right nutrients yeah but yeah i just wanted
04:27:04 to say though i i think a lot of people because i used to have this position and it still seems like
04:27:11 you still lean that way somewhat maybe not as far as i thought you did but there are a lot of people
04:27:17 that treat depression as if it's a choice you know i'm saying like people are choosing and i guess in
04:27:22 a way it is like if it's changing your diet changing your lifestyle sure but you know it's not just oh
04:27:30 you're soft oh you're a weak individual uh i would definitely say i see what you're saying and i would
04:27:36 say at this point uh since then that the better see this is the better way to talk about it publicly
04:27:42 like i would never tell my friends or not never but i would ultimately not try to share weakness
04:27:47 and try to share sadness and put that onto the world i'll say something that happened said before
04:27:52 um recently i had a death in the family and as soon as it happened like i finished i just streamed for
04:27:58 eight hours straight i didn't think about it at all i never mentioned it and then the stream ended and
04:28:02 then i i went into the prayer position put my head to the floor and i started crying and then once it
04:28:07 was over i was i prayed and we in islam we believe to to cry to allah like those feelings of uh when
04:28:14 you're in despair when you have all really extreme feelings like that it's better to share with allah
04:28:18 than with other people because other people are not going to understand other people are not going to
04:28:22 get it and you're going to be sharing we it's not gonna that they're not going to give you the
04:28:26 answers that you need all the answers are from all the answers are in the quran so i put my head to the 0.99
04:28:30 floor this then i got over it and i went back i went to the gym and got back with my life um and
04:28:36 then since then you know just that's that's the best way to deal with it that's the best way to
04:28:43 in my in my experience because i've dealt with it other ways like back in the day i would probably
04:28:47 cope with something like that with alcohol with drinking i probably like you know talk to my friends
04:28:52 about it talk to a girl about it i didn't tell anybody actually it was crazy that i was able to do
04:28:56 so many streams and never mention it and kind of push it to the back of my head and then when it was
04:29:00 time for prayer i was able to access that again and then relinquish it there the feelings need to go
04:29:04 somewhere uh even as men like we say that we don't feel as we do it's good better to put those feelings
04:29:09 into the gym into your work and to god rather than anywhere else and you have to channel it in the
04:29:14 right places that's what i mean by depression is not real if you believe you're depressed you're going
04:29:18 to channel it into negative things because you're going to make excuses for why you're being in a
04:29:22 vegetative state oh i'm depressed so i'm going to start taking medication i'm depressed i'm going to smoke
04:29:27 weed i'm depressed so i can't work today i need a mental health day i can't get this done because
04:29:31 i am depressed you've diagnosed yourself and you've chosen to be in this non-solution place
04:29:36 when you should find a solution the best solution the only solution is god work prayer and jim
04:29:43 yeah um uh yeah i get what you're saying and diet yeah definitely you know your diet should always be
04:29:50 right like regardless even in islam we don't even believe in eating haram sorry for interrupting you but
04:29:55 we know you're fine yeah we believe in eating halal meat which is means that the the beef needs to be 0.97
04:30:01 raised the right way they can't be mistreated um they can't be grazing a farm or then a factory or
04:30:07 whatever and they have to be killed the right way because you can't even get adrenochrome in the food
04:30:12 because a lot of the meat they use from mcdonald's for whatever they electrocute the beef and then their
04:30:15 last second alive is them in this terrified state and so what happens in the blood is that there's all
04:30:21 this adrenaline in the blood they call it adrenochrome meat that's halal they're killed like you just slice 1.00
04:30:25 you say bismillah and you slice their neck and they bleed out which is a much more you know i
04:30:30 wouldn't say humane but a much more natural way to die rather than being electrocuted i would say
04:30:35 though that's probably a longer death than being electrocuted though don't you think yeah but
04:30:40 electrocuted puts you in a shock state you know that doesn't happen when you slice it puts them in
04:30:45 a shock state no i don't know it's lit i think they're just bleeding out slowly they're just
04:30:51 shock is like it's just they feel that though that i would think that if someone cut my throat open i'd
04:30:57 feel that and then i'd watch my blood leak out for like the next 20 seconds but you're not going to go
04:31:03 into shock you're just going to be like oh you're slow you're just you're dying oh i'm dead i'm pretty
04:31:06 sure i'd be very shocked bro okay well it's also the way they're raised and stuff like that my blood is
04:31:12 like i'm choking on my blood it's like just leaking out on the floor it might take it's probably faster
04:31:17 than 20 seconds but i still think and but the adrenaline the adrenaline's different than that
04:31:21 electrocution that that's unnatural uh i don't know bro i don't know about that one i think the 0.99
04:31:29 most humane way to kill an animal is to shoot it in the head that's instant they don't even know one 0.96
04:31:37 minute they're just eating some grass the next second it's just like the windows like 1.00
04:31:42 sound boot up sound it's over
04:31:47 yeah i shot him that i mean the guns weren't around when uh when our books were written
04:31:53 yeah yeah yeah that a lot of you ever watched uh no country for old men of course i have that's 0.97
04:31:58 a great love that that's probably what your life was like when you left the internet you know
04:32:04 not quite no not quite but yeah you know how that's what they use now a lot of times to kill the
04:32:10 animals is uh they use a compressed air that thing yeah that's a good that's actually what that was
04:32:18 it was like a cattle like i don't know the exact name but that thing he was going around killing
04:32:25 people with shooting out door handles with and all that that was used for killing animals instantly 0.99
04:32:30 mm-hmm it's funny that you brought up that movie because um well first what do you what do you think
04:32:37 that movie's about um what no country for old men yeah 0.51
04:32:43 uh man greed evil
04:32:54 those are the first two things that come to mind just how how much pure evil exists in the world and
04:33:01 how far people go for money both sides both the guy who stole the money and the guy who was pursuing him
04:33:08 for it yeah i i think that's uh my biggest takeaway from that movie i think it goes to the title
04:33:16 is uh the difference between traditionalism and modernism right so you get no country for old men 1.00
04:33:23 like the the old guys like the old cop seeing all the craziness like young men are greedy this guy's
04:33:28 chasing the money around they see like the these new tools of shooting and all this stuff it's like
04:33:35 it's a new world and a world that's really traditional right tech old texas with the cowboy
04:33:40 hat and he's got the gun he's slang and he's drinking milk and it's just like this is what
04:33:44 we're used to and this is the world that we're adapting to and everything is different and this
04:33:48 is not a place where traditional values it can exist anymore this is a place full of evil and greed
04:33:54 and craziness and you you just you randomly walk through the desert and you see a big shootout and
04:33:58 everything and then at the end of the movie he realizes that like everything is unpredictable
04:34:03 like in the last line of the movie he's talking about a dream that he had and in the dream he
04:34:08 goes to the fireplace and he's sitting down with his father and basically his father repeats the
04:34:12 same thing his father's like um it talks about the unknown and about how we're never really going to
04:34:19 know the solutions like even though men can act like we have the answers to things we still can exist
04:34:23 in a world that's unpredictable like and at the end of the movie where the villain is crossing is
04:34:29 driving in the car after he committed a murder he killed the guy's wife and he's driving and
04:34:32 randomly a car crash happens out of nowhere and the kids are there and he's tying the shirt like
04:34:36 but he survives it like out of nowhere this guy's one of the most villainous people of all time and
04:34:40 he gets in a car crash out of nowhere you never know what's going to happen life is unpredictable
04:34:44 but you only could find refuge in that in this world of craziness and what is traditional and what
04:34:49 we already know and i think that's that's how i found islam is like is this is something that
04:34:54 has not changed it's not something that's uh that's been adapted in this world of craziness and greed and
04:34:59 evil islam has stayed stagnant and it's it stayed strong and it stayed exactly the way it is so 1.00
04:35:06 although life is unpredictable we have free will at least i have this that i could fall back on that i
04:35:11 can find solace in yeah well i'm happy for you bro you know even though i'm happy for you too
04:35:21 yeah even though i'm a christian and you know that's ultimately the camp i plant my flag in
04:35:26 i you know i i just see you as a guy that's also on this life journey and
04:35:37 you're you're taking it by the horns and you're trying to make the most of it and you're trying to
04:35:44 you know make the right decisions with information you have like like me like most with like a lot of
04:35:50 guys i would presume and um you know you have tough skin and perseverance and those are all amazing
04:35:59 qualities bro and you've all and also the fact that you've turned away from things like frivolous
04:36:06 casual sex and all that you know drugs and alcohol and all that that's an amazing thing and so i pray that
04:36:14 god gives you long life and you continue to to move you know to grow in godliness and all that
04:36:22 i mean i appreciate that i'm glad you're back too man young don's back finally it's been it's been a
04:36:26 long time i've been trying to you know i have been i don't think they understand we've been we've been uh
04:36:32 you know keeping a good contact for a while and um i'm glad to see this uh this era of young don i look
04:36:38 forward to seeing your content and everything and uh may god keep you steadfast and um keep you and
04:36:43 your family safe thank you bro all right bro well god bless thanks for having me man talk soon man have
04:36:50 a good one w done w done chat i am so 0.84
04:36:57 fucking tired 0.87
04:37:03 but the show goes on 1.00
04:37:07 i am fucking leaving 0.99
04:37:11 i should leave huh 0.99
04:37:14 and i saw someone clarified it the electrocution it leaves the meat and the blood so you're eating
04:37:18 all that electrocuted um blood and so when they bleed out then you're not i should have said that
04:37:24 i should have said that
04:37:27 i should have said that all right what are the clips 0.97
04:37:33 what the fuck sneak i haven't watched this movie oh you haven't watched two cano country for old 0.96
04:37:37 men in 2024 niggas just hurry up i'm tired of like not talking about movies so much because 0.99
04:37:44 niggas don't watch movies type 1.00
04:37:46 good yeah w yeah man w w yeah w book club no no shout out to young don man shout out to young don
04:37:59 i'm glad he's back it's good to see him back here
04:38:01 kid map means you're a kid yeah if you're an adult okay i probably was younger probably like 17 but i was
04:38:10 up there okay think about this kid that means you're a kid yeah if you're an adult
04:38:16 so you wanted an ice latte dude okay get the back out of here dude five minutes dude 1.00
04:38:27 sneeko built like xbox 360 avatar fuck you 0.99
04:38:30 male shows alex my instagram he picks me up from off of on top of then 1.00
04:38:38 assaulted me the only thing he said
04:38:41 trauma
04:38:41 funny that she used her like her fantasy 1.00
04:38:56 as a lie as a lie as a rape lie for her only fans i'm smoking so many fucking jews to am frank pat 1.00
04:39:03 what other jews i hate i hate a lot of fucking jews and a lot of jews are in this joint on god 1.00
04:39:08 on god but i'm like manifesting it right now i'm really like imagining jews in this bitch i swear 1.00
04:39:12 to god i hate chat i don't think this is a lot of that i swear to god aiden and his mom and his 0.99
04:39:17 sister are the only jews i like i'm what the fucking hate every single jewish person with like a true 1.00
04:39:23 hatred on god true hatred i know a lot of y'all be trolling on twitter that's cool and all i dead ass 1.00
04:39:28 fucking hate jewish people i don't give a fuck most selfish cocks 1.00
04:39:40 make sure to keep your kids away from west 4th street pedophiles look in the area 1.00
04:39:45 yeah you're too pussy to say this to my face i don't even know you see people taking like sneaky 1.00
04:39:50 little pictures like this yeah i mean stay safe out there i know man there's there's real life haters 1.00
04:39:58 but always too pussy to say anything they just take a sneaky little picture and tweet it like faggots 1.00
04:40:05 you know if you genuinely thought that i was a pedophile why don't you say it in my face 1.00
04:40:20 the way it should be huh the way it should be the way it should be no 0.73
04:40:50 you know if you didn't know this is alex jones on his mother i mean i didn't have some sexual desire
04:41:19 for my mother but when i'd look at her very beautiful blonde you know red lipstick you know 1.00
04:41:23 very beautiful woman i was like mommy that looks really good
04:41:36 no this is alex jones on his mother i mean i didn't have some sexual desire for my mother but
04:41:40 when i'd look at her very beautiful blonde you know red lipstick you know very beautiful woman i was like
04:41:45 mommy
04:41:50 and this guy is the one talking about islam saying that islam is full of deviance saying that islam 0.68
04:41:57 is a cult a pedocult this guy as you that looks really good i like why don't we take a little trip
04:42:06 back in the way back machine here i just like you to focus on her face for this i mean i didn't have
04:42:10 some sexual desire for my mother but when i'd look at her very beautiful blonde you know red lipstick 1.00
04:42:14 you know very beautiful if you didn't know this is
04:42:29 all right i'm gonna end i'm ending chat i know there's a chat delay so
04:42:42 sort of you guys to catch up i hope you enjoyed the stream it's a good stream i don't want to hear
04:42:45 anyone hey everybody make sure to follow the stream right now if you enjoy this content we're going to
04:42:50 be doing an irl tomorrow inshallah if i can figure everything out um shout out to the muscle lantern to
04:42:54 warner to young don to arab great guest today highly appreciated that take the god pill you already
04:43:00 know love you guys so much