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- December 27, 2024
BYSTANDER EFFECT.
Episode Stats
Length
12 minutes
Words per Minute
169.37599
Word Count
2,195
Sentence Count
53
Misogynist Sentences
9
Hate Speech Sentences
2
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This is Coney Island's Stillwell Station, the station where the lady was burned alive.
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And I think the saddest part is that they still haven't identified who she is.
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In sociology, it's called the bystander effect.
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It's a whole lot of people in a group, and they're watching something.
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And everybody's got their hands in their pocket, or they're on the phone saying,
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gee, somebody should do something, you know?
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They don't want to take responsibility.
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And that's called the bystander effect.
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There are no candles here and more news stations and cameramen
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than there are participants of the vigil.
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New York is a good place, but it has to be safer.
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Enough is enough.
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It's that time of year where you have to start thinking about the next one.
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What can we do better now that the calendar changes and it's a new year?
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The first step is to look at the problems of 2024, which were over-socialization.
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We are now starting to currently see the long-term effects of social media.
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What happens when we live life equally through here than we do out there?
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If Daniel Penny wasn't facing so much scrutiny, do you think that somebody would have stepped
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in to save this burning lady?
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You know, if you see something, say something.
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And sometimes you don't know what's going on between the minds of people and the minds
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of people, especially in our city.
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But we need to have more people, more heroes, more people to step in and do something.
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Do you consider Daniel Penny to be a hero?
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Prosecutors are trying to prove Penny was reckless and argued though his intentions were good,
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he used excessive force, keeping Neely in a chokehold for nearly six minutes.
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I considered him to do what was right at that time.
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I'm not really too much sure about the situation.
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I just know that the particular gentleman has been on the train for quite some time,
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suffering from multiple mental health illnesses.
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So the gentleman did what was right.
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Who knows?
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The gentleman on the train might have done some harm to more people, which he had done for
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in the past.
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The Unabomber Ted Kaczynski wrote about over-socialization in his Unabomber manifesto.
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He predicted all the problems that we saw this year.
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The best example is the bystander effect.
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It's like this street in New York City.
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If you were unfortunate enough to be the victim of a crime or taken ill unexpectedly,
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you might think that surrounded by all these people, someone would intervene.
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After all, isn't there safety in numbers?
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Psychologists say no.
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This is a sheep NPC problem where if we see one person ignore a woman on fire,
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everybody ignores it too.
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When people are in a crowd, it's easier to pass the buck.
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It's what psychologists call the diffusion of responsibility.
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The problem of living in the most densely populated area in the world, Manhattan,
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and not knowing a single one of your neighbors.
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I can literally see a naked woman's breasts in eyesight right now.
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I'm not going to show you.
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And if the person that owns those breasts died tomorrow,
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my life wouldn't change for a second.
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The difference is in a village of 1,000 people, every neighbor knows the other neighbor.
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By socializing less, they end up socializing more
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and intimately knowing the people that live next door.
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You know the intimate details of maybe 1,000 people that you follow on X,
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their mind and their life,
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but how many of them did you say Merry Christmas to?
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In the 70s, when the Unabomber wrote that manifesto,
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he was talking about the problems of technology then.
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Look at what we have today.
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Maybe the dystopian answer is every day we're taking steps further away from humanity
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and closer to artificial intelligence.
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Very soon we need to ask ourselves,
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what will be the difference between humanity and AI?
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But I don't get pessimistic about this problem like a Black Mirror episode.
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I think we can fix this problem the same way that we started it.
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In 2025, we can use these dangerous tools
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and take us as a couple steps back into people rather than software.
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Unknown to these passersby,
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Peter is an actor.
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How long before he gets help?
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Please, somebody help me.
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Help me, please help me.
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Helping would be inconvenient or even risky.
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He lies there for more than 20 minutes and no one raises an eyebrow.
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Please, somebody help me.
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Mochi.
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Mochi.
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Mochi.
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When I was 17
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It was a very good year
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It was a very good year
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For small town girls
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And soft summer nights
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It was the day after Christmas
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On the village green
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I know you see some people
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but West Village considerably is absolutely deserted
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When I was 21
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When I was 21
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It was a very good year
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It was a very good year
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It was a very good year
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For city girls
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Who lived up the stair
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With all that perfumed hair
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There's a certain
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Lowell type of calmness over the city
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That I haven't seen in a long time
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This should be mayhem right now
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In any other circumstance
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People feel sedated
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It's like the whole city took a Xanax
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This is Coney Island Stillwell Station
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The station where the lady was burned alive
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And I think the saddest part is that they still haven't identified who she is
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The difficult part
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She has no property
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She has nothing really under her name
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So there's a candlelight vigil for her
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But we don't even know who she is
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It doesn't look like there's anybody here but reporters and police
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Most New Yorkers are only a few months away from being homeless
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How you doing?
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The vigil is supposed to be here?
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I believe so
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There's no candles?
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I'm not sure
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There's no way everybody else knows
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That it's supposed to be here after 4
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That's all I do
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Did they identify the woman yet?
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You know?
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I'm not sure
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Yeah, that's a little disappointing
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There's a candlelight vigil
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And no vigil or candles
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But there's throw-ups
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Let's go, bro
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Are you from Coney Island?
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I am
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Did you hear about the lady that got lit on fire?
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Yeah, I did
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I thought it was hard, man
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It was tough
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I think it was like
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It's real heartbreaking
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Because you see situations like the Daniel Penny one
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He steps in and does something
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And then he's hated by the far left
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Exactly
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You see a guy who's lighting a woman on fire
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And then that happened after
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People aren't stepping in
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Maybe because they don't want to get in trouble
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What are your thoughts on that?
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I think we should all learn jujitsu
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Next time I see somebody on fire
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Triangle choke
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100%
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Bro, you know what's crazy?
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There's a candlelight visual here
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There's nobody here
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What do you think the solution is to this problem?
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Because you saw Daniel Penny, for example
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He stepped in and choked the woman out
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Let me just
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Choked the man out
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Let me just
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Wait a minute
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I know a lot
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I'm not an ordinary person
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I have to tell you
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I'm a newshound
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Okay
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I don't think he was a hero
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I don't think he was a villain
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He certainly wasn't a vigilante
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A vigilante is somebody
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Who goes around looking like
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He's going to do something to somebody
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Right
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That's not what he was
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He acted on instinct
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The people who were in that car
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Said they were scared
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More than they've ever been
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And that they were afraid
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That they were going to die
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In terms of what he did
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I'm glad that somebody was there
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He did take action
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My problem with what he did
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Was the last 30 seconds
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The last 30 seconds
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Mr. Neely
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The young man
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Fell unconscious
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I personally think
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The last 30 seconds
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Have a problem with him
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I don't have a problem
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With Daniel Penny
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Sticking forward
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Why is he not a hero?
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Because Neely died
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So what are we supposed to do
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About this fire situation?
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Do you think part of the reason
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Nobody stepped in
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Is because of
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What happened to Penny?
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No
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No, that's not
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Why did nobody
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This isn't old
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This is
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In terms of psychology
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And sociology
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It's called the bystander effect
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It has to do with
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The kind of society
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We're living in
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People don't feel connected
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Here we are
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In the richest country on earth
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In the richest
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One of the richest cities on earth
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Where people are living
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In 100 stories up in the air
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Lives of luxury
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And then down below
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At street level
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We have people living
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In absolute destitution
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Very close to
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Death
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Homeless
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We're not that far apart
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We're not that far away
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We're right here
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We are right here
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We're right here
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We could
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You are
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I don't know you
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You don't know me
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Millions of New Yorkers
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Rides and trains
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Every day
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I'm realizing
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I'm part of the problem
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There are no candles here
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And more news stations
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And cameramen
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Than there are
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Participants in the vigil
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This
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This is
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This is kind of dark
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And I'm part of it
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Yep
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This is a realization here
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Look at all
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Look at all these news vans
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Double parked on the street
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Can I ask you your opinion
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On everything that happened
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Tragedy
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What happened
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Such a tragedy
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Life taken
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Just so suddenly
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We pray
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That God have mercy on the soul
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And also
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Have mercy upon the person
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That did this
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Everyone on the train
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We just need to be safe
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A safer city
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How do we prevent
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Something like this
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From happening again
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We have to
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Get in contact
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With the powers that be
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The mayor's office
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The governor
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It's time for them now
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To step up
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And do some help
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Very important
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They actually step in now
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To work
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And to keep New Yorkers safe
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New Yorker is a good place
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But it has to be safer
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Enough is enough
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You should take your job
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What's your name
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My name's Sinan
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Right when I got off the train
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To edit this video
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A girl yelled
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Fuck you to me
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As soon as the doors opened
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She said hello to me
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When she got on her stop
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And didn't say a word
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For 30 minutes
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Then finally
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When there was a degree
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Of separation
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She decided to yell
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Something negative
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As I'm standing over the gap
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Halfway between the train
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And ready to leave
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I look at her and say
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You waited that whole time
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To yell fuck you to me
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She's looking at me
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Laughs and nods
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And I say
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You couldn't have the balls
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To say that
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When we were face to face
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Perfect example
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Of the degree of separation
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We now have
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Maybe she was trying
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To get a clip
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Maybe she just wanted
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To say something negative
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Without the repercussions
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But she didn't see me
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As a person
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That interaction
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Was fraudulent
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Because she tweeted
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At me in real life
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Instead of using
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All that time
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On the train
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To have a conversation
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With somebody
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That she hated
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Maybe we could have
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Talked out her differences
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And maybe we could have
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Even hugged it out
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Instead she's just
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Another person
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In the ether
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That I'll never see again
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That I know hates me
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What if I left
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And that train derailed
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And that's the last thing
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She said
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God forbid
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What if I got hit
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By her car
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While leaving
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And that was the last thing
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Someone said to me
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The likelihood
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I'll ever see her again
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Is minimal
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But lady on the train
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If I ever do
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I'm gonna talk to you
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This year
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My new year's resolutions
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Were very personal
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Because in 2022
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I was in student loan debt
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In 2023
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I became a millionaire
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In 2024
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I closed
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Four houses
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All cash
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I'm good
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2025
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Is all about
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Creating something new
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My goal with Project X
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Is to upload
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Every single day this year
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Since I started a month ago
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I only miss Christmas
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To spend time with my family
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For the past three years
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My goals have been
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Very selfish
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And reasonably so
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But 2025
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Is all about
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Doing something
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That I think
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Is good for humanity
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That's what makes
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A holiday like Christmas
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So valuable to me
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Because I feel
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The societal pressure
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To spend time
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With my Catholic family
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No matter what
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Wherever you are
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In the world
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You're supposed to be
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Eating dinner
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With your family
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On that day
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You're not communicating
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In the family
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WhatsApp group
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You're talking to them
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Face to face
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Sharing a meal
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It removes that
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False degree of separation
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And makes you smell
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Their bad breath
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And hear their terrible jokes
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Face to face
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The bystander effect
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Is proof
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That we think
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As a collective
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In 2025
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If we don't work together
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To fix this problem
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Of socialization
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Humanity is doomed
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Mochi
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Mochi
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No
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We'll be wrong
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