SNEAKO - April 19, 2023


Feminist Accuses SNEAKO of Vibrating with Misogyny!


Episode Stats

Length

50 minutes

Words per Minute

222.98251

Word Count

11,221

Sentence Count

483

Misogynist Sentences

141

Hate Speech Sentences

89


Summary

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In this episode, I'm joined by author and dating coach, Sneeko, to discuss why feminism is bad for men and why it's good for women. We discuss the role of women in society and the importance of men in society.

Transcript

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Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:01.000 People like to have a victim mindset, especially...
00:00:02.800 It's not a victimization, I'm just saying it exists.
00:00:04.600 Okay.
00:00:04.880 That's it.
00:00:05.260 That's my point, is that we hear this victimized mindset right now in order to give you a way
00:00:10.180 to navigate the world that justifies a lot of your thoughts and beliefs.
00:00:13.000 We're talking about race, and you're like, it's giving misogyny.
00:00:16.640 It is.
00:00:17.160 No, you...
00:00:18.080 What does calling out the victimization of the race...
00:00:21.940 I feel the vibration.
00:00:22.740 You feel the vibrations of misogyny?
00:00:24.760 Yeah, of your mentality.
00:00:26.500 Your mentality is one of
00:00:28.700 You're a type of man
00:00:30.180 They're just here trying to make you look stupid
00:00:33.800 That's what their job is
00:00:34.820 What value do you see
00:00:36.140 How do you value women
00:00:37.900 Do you see the value of women
00:00:38.940 I explained it five minutes ago
00:00:41.260 I said that I'm against feminism
00:00:43.080 I said the value of a woman is motherhood
00:00:45.600 Is in raising children
00:00:46.640 I said that we respect mothers
00:00:48.360 I opened the show by saying that
00:00:49.660 So what did I say that makes you think I'm a misogynist
00:00:52.280 That's a serious allegation
00:00:54.300 I said it's giving misogynism
00:00:55.740 What is giving misogyny?
00:00:56.980 Your vibration.
00:00:58.100 My vibrations?
00:00:59.020 Yeah, the vibes.
00:00:59.100 You're vibrating misogyny right now?
00:01:00.760 The vibes, no.
00:01:01.360 So are you vibrating with racism, too?
00:01:03.340 No, you're trying to put your masculinity into insertive, and I don't like that.
00:01:07.900 That's a bit misogynist.
00:01:08.820 It comes a bit aggressive, right?
00:01:09.420 Yeah, it's just.
00:01:10.060 It's going to be like, ugh.
00:01:11.060 It's the masculinity.
00:01:11.820 It's a bit heavy.
00:01:12.180 Yeah, I can feel it, and it's like you're trying to suppress my feminine.
00:01:15.100 So today we have a lovely panel, including some special guests.
00:01:18.960 I'm Sneeko.
00:01:19.640 I am 24 years old, and fun fact, I am a really nice guy.
00:01:24.340 Aw.
00:01:25.200 Yeah.
00:01:25.740 I didn't like that all.
00:01:28.860 That's good.
00:01:29.800 It's nice to see a nice, sweet side.
00:01:31.540 If you're a nice guy, it means there's vulnerabilities to you.
00:01:34.400 All nice guys finish last?
00:01:36.360 No.
00:01:37.440 But nice guys and nice husbands.
00:01:40.180 You're a good husband.
00:01:40.940 Can you cook?
00:01:42.340 Do you want a husband that cooks?
00:01:43.500 No, I'm just asking if you can cook.
00:01:44.840 Then I've got a line to say after, obviously.
00:01:49.920 I can cook, but I won't cook.
00:01:52.080 Oh, that's okay.
00:01:52.960 I'll cut you.
00:01:54.000 Nice.
00:01:54.280 Nice.
00:01:55.740 Girls, that's how you do it.
00:01:58.000 How you do what?
00:01:58.960 Not get a husband?
00:01:59.900 No.
00:02:00.480 That's how you're freaking yourself out of the bad situation.
00:02:03.280 Because you said, why'd you ask?
00:02:05.400 So I said, because I've got a line after.
00:02:07.600 Trouble.
00:02:11.060 Jay Waller, 37.
00:02:13.060 Nothing to say.
00:02:14.020 Troy Francis, 47, years young.
00:02:17.000 I'm a dating coach based in London.
00:02:18.640 And a fun fact, I'm single as well.
00:02:20.600 Fun fact about me, I've written 11 books about dating and the dating marketplace.
00:02:25.740 So, thank you all for coming
00:02:28.440 Today's topic, I'm just going to get right into it
00:02:30.900 Do feminists crave destruction?
00:02:33.360 Yes
00:02:33.700 Explain right here
00:02:35.460 We started off the show with destruction
00:02:37.480 Ask me the question and then you'll see
00:02:39.400 Okay, so you said yes, why?
00:02:43.180 Yes, because the whole point of feminism
00:02:44.740 Is to eradicate the importance of men
00:02:47.160 And I don't see anything as destructive
00:02:49.380 As eradicating the importance of men in society
00:02:51.880 That's a simple way to put it
00:02:53.940 What do you think?
00:02:55.060 I agree with what she's saying, 100%.
00:02:58.100 Did you actually agree or were you just trying to get to the next person?
00:03:00.960 No, I agree with what she's saying.
00:03:02.640 I think that a lot of, I think the term feminism has been almost changed
00:03:08.300 in modern day time and made into almost like women need to overpower men
00:03:12.960 and women need to take over the world kind of energy.
00:03:18.620 I hear that. No, I don't agree.
00:03:21.360 Okay, what do you think?
00:03:22.080 feminism is made to empower women
00:03:27.120 and show men the importance of women in society.
00:03:31.580 What's the importance of women in society?
00:03:33.940 What?
00:03:34.620 What's the importance of women in society?
00:03:36.720 We are society.
00:03:39.460 That's not...
00:03:40.600 What's your importance?
00:03:42.300 What's your role in society?
00:03:43.400 If it's so important,
00:03:44.400 that's the point of empowering you.
00:03:47.300 What's your role?
00:03:49.800 Well, I'm not being funny.
00:03:52.080 without where would the world be without women like where would you you've come from a woman
00:03:58.480 you've learned most of what you've growing up who brought you up was it your mother or your father
00:04:04.440 who's who's so who's got core duties why do men go so hard so the importance of a woman is
00:04:12.300 motherhood no not just motherhood come back to me i have to think about it but women you seem
00:04:20.020 pretty set in stone on that i think we just saw feminism in real time you said that it's in our
00:04:25.420 role is really important and then you just said motherhood which is that existed before the
00:04:30.040 feminist movement motherhood has always been important yeah it's always been respected right
00:04:33.680 you're right and it's pinnacle how do you think the world's going to continue to go on without
00:04:38.360 motherhood we agree so would you be here if you didn't have a mother we agree 100 exactly so what
00:04:42.760 is the feminist movement done to prove that well the feminist movement if you're talking about what
00:04:48.060 What's it
00:04:50.280 What's going on now
00:04:51.220 The empowerment
00:04:52.300 All this girl boss thing
00:04:53.860 That's going on right now
00:04:54.840 No that's modern feminism
00:04:56.560 That's what it's evolved to
00:04:58.380 But feminism in itself
00:04:59.740 Is made to
00:05:00.720 Make the world see
00:05:02.880 The value of women
00:05:03.860 They used to plan assassinations
00:05:04.860 In the early 1900s
00:05:06.460 What feminists
00:05:07.300 Well
00:05:09.180 Yeah
00:05:10.600 There's terrorist groups
00:05:12.100 That are men and women
00:05:13.240 You know
00:05:13.900 It's equality isn't it
00:05:15.260 Women can be terrorists too
00:05:16.840 True
00:05:18.560 That's why I think feminism, in my opinion,
00:05:21.740 is the problem when people want to label things.
00:05:24.700 You don't want all of the same things.
00:05:26.720 We are all very different women.
00:05:27.940 We have different experiences, different careers, different ones.
00:05:30.300 So if you start saying feminism, you start labeling everybody,
00:05:33.080 it's a problem because a black woman's freaking experience
00:05:36.140 is not the same as a white woman.
00:05:37.240 So our feminism doesn't look the same.
00:05:39.220 So when everybody's saying, oh, women, empower yourselves,
00:05:41.340 we can't empower ourselves the same way.
00:05:42.740 Some women work, some don't.
00:05:44.280 Some women are mothers, some women are not mothers.
00:05:45.940 It's like, don't put me under the same umbrella.
00:05:47.640 What does a black woman, what does that have to do with feminism?
00:05:49.620 It has to do with feminism because, for example, for me,
00:05:53.080 just knowing the difference between my empowerment
00:05:55.360 and the empowerment of my white girlfriends, it's very different.
00:05:59.060 I have bigger struggles to overcome.
00:06:00.600 So when somebody's telling me, oh, feminism, empower yourself,
00:06:02.720 we're all the same.
00:06:03.400 No, we're not.
00:06:04.200 We're quite different.
00:06:04.980 The same way that I don't believe that racism is actually something
00:06:08.360 that many people should be speaking on,
00:06:10.260 because even that black experience is totally different
00:06:12.800 depending on where you're from, what class you come from.
00:06:15.220 So women are not all the same just because
00:06:17.080 We are women
00:06:17.960 Everything you're saying is why people think that feminists are just chatting
00:06:21.380 Because what does racism
00:06:22.560 I'm not a feminist so I don't really care
00:06:24.180 And I brought feminism as a comparison point
00:06:26.600 Because I'm just trying to explain that
00:06:28.100 When you put people in the same bag
00:06:29.960 Every single time it causes problems
00:06:31.560 So you don't actually get to understand what the genuine problem is
00:06:34.400 And you start saying oh we want this
00:06:36.020 But then you don't know what you want
00:06:37.240 It's victim mindset
00:06:37.760 It's having a victim mindset
00:06:40.160 I'm black, I'm a woman, I need empowerment
00:06:42.140 No it's not a victimization, it's a fact
00:06:44.700 Because I know I lived that experience
00:06:46.880 You may not
00:06:47.620 And on top of that I'm also an immigrant
00:06:49.240 So I already know that my experience is different
00:06:50.900 So when I'm talking about empowerment
00:06:52.360 And you're an immigrant too
00:06:53.180 I don't look at it
00:06:53.640 There's a lot of ways you're victimizing yourself
00:06:55.720 I'm not victimized
00:06:56.380 I'm empowering myself because I'm a G
00:06:57.980 I made it through the problem
00:06:59.080 I don't really care about whether or not it was a situation
00:07:01.440 But that's wokeness
00:07:02.200 You empower yourself by victimizing yourself
00:07:04.300 No, I empower myself by understanding that
00:07:06.040 Perhaps I may have a bigger hill to climb
00:07:08.700 So I'll train harder
00:07:09.540 It's what you're leading with though
00:07:10.940 It's certainly what you're leading with
00:07:12.420 Your race, your gender
00:07:14.400 and your immigration. Of course. You're leading
00:07:16.380 with that. Is that your identity? You can understand that
00:07:18.600 when I'm a feminist too. What about
00:07:20.480 what you've done in the world instead of all of these other
00:07:22.440 things? I've done a lot of things in the world. Okay, then why not lead with those?
00:07:24.300 I'm an educator as well. Okay, cool. And I understand
00:07:26.620 the difference between me going into that
00:07:28.360 job versus other
00:07:30.600 people. I work with different types of racism.
00:07:32.580 What I'm trying to say is I'm not trying to make this about racism.
00:07:35.040 I'm simply making a comparison to
00:07:36.540 explain that. But you did. No, no, no. You certainly did.
00:07:38.680 And let me tell you why. Because I'm making a comparison.
00:07:41.160 So it's an analogy to explain
00:07:42.660 another problem. When you put everybody in the
00:07:44.740 same basket, it doesn't work. That's why
00:07:46.700 feminism doesn't work. It's not a good thing
00:07:48.680 because I don't relate to feminists.
00:07:50.580 Because the problems are not just caused by gender,
00:07:52.720 the problems are caused by these other factors that you're talking about.
00:07:54.660 Yes, but it's caused by so many different things.
00:07:56.620 There's different elements to it, so don't box me in.
00:07:58.740 So that's why I don't think feminism is good.
00:08:00.500 You neglect the people that actually do need empowering.
00:08:03.100 And I don't think it's fair to say that
00:08:04.580 she shouldn't lead with her race and
00:08:06.100 all of these things because when you look at us, the first thing you
00:08:08.540 do see is my race. If I am a TV presenter,
00:08:10.460 you're not going to look at me first as a TV presenter.
00:08:11.960 That's the first thing you say
00:08:12.900 When I see you
00:08:13.720 I see a woman
00:08:14.220 I don't see a black girl
00:08:15.180 Maybe that's just you
00:08:15.860 But the majority
00:08:16.340 You're gonna already
00:08:17.060 Have this stigma of me
00:08:18.020 Because I'm a black woman
00:08:18.560 But here's the problem
00:08:18.980 With you doing that
00:08:19.580 And I say this with love
00:08:20.320 But if you have that
00:08:21.300 Top of mind all the time
00:08:22.360 You're gonna suppress yourself
00:08:23.400 But that's literally
00:08:24.580 That's life
00:08:25.480 Like we can't change it
00:08:26.200 You're gonna suppress yourself
00:08:27.000 We can't change it
00:08:27.720 And that is life
00:08:28.320 That's like me assuming
00:08:29.300 That y'all are gonna hate me
00:08:30.140 Because I'm a straight white male
00:08:31.080 Why would I think that
00:08:32.560 About you guys
00:08:33.160 When we could just get along
00:08:34.080 So I don't understand
00:08:35.100 Like why are you
00:08:35.940 Being so challenging
00:08:36.800 When I said
00:08:37.560 Because I hate to hear it
00:08:38.960 coming out of your mouth because it's a poisonous thing for you to think next to feminists and i'm
00:08:42.680 saying whatever your empowerment movement is is not the same as mine so don't actually label me
00:08:47.640 to be in that situation and say oh women want oh i'm not labeling you i'm simply telling you what
00:08:51.960 exactly what you said no no no no exactly what you said what do you think about feminine i said
00:08:56.100 i'm black i'm an immigrant all this bullshit that's literally what you just said that's exactly
00:09:01.340 let me rephrase it so you can understand it please so essentially if i stand next to a feminist
00:09:06.020 yeah for example a white woman i don't relate to you because i'm black okay wait wait wait let me
00:09:10.760 finish can i finish you're about to say i can't box myself in with you because i'm black that's
00:09:14.460 not what i'm saying say it then what i'm saying is i am not the same woman as you what i want and
00:09:19.160 what i see to be empowerment is not the same whether it's culturally whether it's racially
00:09:22.940 whether it's professionally academically personally whatever we are all very different women cannot
00:09:27.560 be boxed into the same box because we're not the same because you're different races because of
00:09:31.660 Different experiences as women.
00:09:33.140 So you're making an anti-feminist argument.
00:09:36.360 Because she's black.
00:09:36.860 But you want to have other things to complain about.
00:09:39.960 I've got balance.
00:09:43.400 I know the things that are not right and I know the things that are right.
00:09:45.960 It's not just black and white.
00:09:47.360 There's gray areas in the middle.
00:09:49.220 That's why I mentioned, for example, things like race is a gray area in the middle
00:09:52.340 that makes it say, oh yeah, feminism may not actually be as accurate as people are saying.
00:09:56.520 That is why people come across feminists and they don't know what they want
00:09:59.260 Because one wants this
00:10:00.520 The other one wants this
00:10:01.360 And the other one wants this
00:10:02.220 Because they are different
00:10:03.340 And that is why
00:10:04.180 Feminism in my opinion
00:10:05.440 Is destructive
00:10:06.460 And I don't think
00:10:07.820 She's playing victim
00:10:08.600 I think she's just
00:10:09.280 Acknowledging a serious
00:10:10.240 Issue in society
00:10:11.140 Very much so
00:10:12.520 Racism?
00:10:13.260 Yes
00:10:13.660 Are we going to
00:10:14.400 Act like racism
00:10:15.160 Doesn't exist
00:10:15.840 Yeah it doesn't
00:10:16.360 Racism is not a problem
00:10:17.900 That's how they keep
00:10:18.720 People broken at the bottom
00:10:19.800 And arguing about nothing
00:10:20.700 And thinking that
00:10:21.240 They're victims all the time
00:10:21.740 And that sounds like a problem
00:10:22.640 It's not a problem
00:10:23.980 When you believe it
00:10:25.120 Your existence
00:10:26.040 And it's a problem then
00:10:26.700 Isn't it?
00:10:27.080 Okay
00:10:27.260 my point is your existence is a sum of your beliefs and your thoughts and if you're always
00:10:32.460 thinking that i'm a victim because i'm black i'm not a feminist because of this i'm an immigrant
00:10:36.580 then you know what's going to happen you're going to stay poor you're going to stay unhappy and
00:10:40.740 you're going to see racism everywhere at a certain level of wealth and at a certain level of status
00:10:44.840 people never discuss things like race people never discuss like i'm an immigrant so it was hard you
00:10:50.020 just want to get to the next point yeah that's why racism is a problem winners only see green
00:10:54.100 Because the truth of the matter is like I own a business right have a bunch of employees
00:10:57.480 If somebody turns up and does their job and they're profitable for my company
00:11:01.000 I cannot afford to give a fuck about their race religion hair
00:11:03.640 gender any of that stuff because
00:11:05.960 It's too hard to find people that work really hard
00:11:08.580 So a great example of that is LeBron James has been in the NBA for years because he puts out motherfucking results
00:11:14.440 Okay, but and he's not worried and he's not worried and living. Oh, I'm black
00:11:17.900 I can't play in the league, but you could say that for any I know plenty of successful young black men
00:11:22.200 And one thing I have a super big heart for is I play college football, and I cannot stand to see people put those young men in a box and tell them from the jump that they are not going to have a good shot at life just because they're black.
00:11:34.460 Can I ask you a question?
00:11:35.340 That is putting them in a box from the beginning and lying to them.
00:11:37.880 Sorry.
00:11:38.120 Do you think that LeBron James had the same journey as his white teammates?
00:11:42.840 What white teammates?
00:11:44.100 You want to talk about exclusion?
00:11:45.600 How many white people are in the NBA?
00:11:47.120 I can't think of one.
00:11:47.720 No, no, wait.
00:11:48.640 Name a white NBA player.
00:11:50.360 I don't know.
00:11:51.000 i feel left out fuck this i'm leaving no no no but i'm just saying if okay actually that's in
00:11:56.440 america in the u in the uk it's different my problem is telling young black men that they
00:12:01.720 don't have a shot because they're black is literally handicapping them from the jump and
00:12:05.600 i won't stand for it in the uk it's very different my friend in the uk for example the football
00:12:10.740 leagues they are full of white boys and the white players are actually quite physically endowed and
00:12:14.500 they're quite talented they get they stay behind a little bit more they're not selected first
00:12:18.360 In the UK it's very different
00:12:19.720 That's why I say
00:12:20.420 You shouldn't box people in
00:12:21.720 And talk about generally
00:12:22.540 Because culturally
00:12:23.320 I call bullshit though
00:12:24.720 I'll tell you why
00:12:25.460 I'll tell you why
00:12:26.140 It's true
00:12:26.580 An owner of a company
00:12:28.880 Whether it's a sports team
00:12:30.320 Or a normal business
00:12:31.160 Cannot afford
00:12:32.720 To choose somebody
00:12:34.240 Or not choose somebody
00:12:35.020 Based off their race or gender
00:12:36.200 But that's not true
00:12:37.360 No
00:12:37.780 Let me tell you why
00:12:38.960 Because the way that you make money
00:12:40.260 In the sport is you win
00:12:41.140 Fucking championships
00:12:42.060 Reggie you don't watch football
00:12:43.320 Some of the best players
00:12:44.640 In the UK
00:12:45.320 Yeah
00:12:46.020 They don't get the ratings
00:12:47.080 For example
00:12:47.840 in the World Cup three black players scored
00:12:49.720 but when England was
00:12:51.660 eliminated from the World Cup those three
00:12:53.640 players were the ones that were blamed and all the white
00:12:55.680 players were the ones that were celebrated because that
00:12:57.640 actually does happen in this country
00:12:59.460 so that's why race is actually
00:13:01.680 important. I don't know anything about soccer
00:13:02.920 but I'll say this. Sorry
00:13:05.400 so are both of you trying to say racism doesn't exist
00:13:07.760 or you trying to encourage us
00:13:09.880 you believing that you're a victim holds you
00:13:11.720 back more than any of the actual
00:13:13.640 racism that exists in society
00:13:14.880 This is some
00:13:17.580 It's really just poor people coping
00:13:19.580 That like racism
00:13:21.200 This is why I'm not successful
00:13:22.540 This is why I'm unhappy
00:13:23.500 It's because of systematic oppression
00:13:24.920 That mindset will hold you back more than any
00:13:27.820 White systems
00:13:28.960 I do agree with that mindset
00:13:29.960 That mindset will hold you back
00:13:31.780 Way more than any racism
00:13:33.400 What I will say is racism does exist
00:13:36.240 Absolutely it exists everywhere
00:13:38.220 It exists everywhere
00:13:39.640 But obviously I wouldn't call myself a victim
00:13:42.880 I've experienced racism
00:13:44.580 but I don't say I'm a victim.
00:13:46.140 I wouldn't let that stop me from prospering.
00:13:49.880 Do you have a harder time succeeding than a white girl?
00:13:52.720 I don't know.
00:13:53.540 I feel like it's all about mindset, to be honest.
00:13:56.380 If you sit there and think, oh, I can't do this because of this,
00:13:59.280 or I can't do that, then obviously that's a negative mindset to have.
00:14:01.740 You're not going to grow and you're not going to be the best version of yourself.
00:14:04.980 But if you think, okay, I might be different,
00:14:07.380 but that's not going to stop me from elevating
00:14:09.640 and being the best version of myself.
00:14:11.140 I get what you guys are trying to say in terms of
00:14:13.980 Mindset I definitely believe that what you
00:14:16.040 Think is what will manifest but what I'm
00:14:17.980 Trying to understand is are you guys trying to say
00:14:19.900 That racism does not exist
00:14:22.060 That's all and it's just this fantasy not as much
00:14:23.860 As we're talking about it right now and
00:14:25.880 Not as much as the
00:14:26.980 And as much as feminists
00:14:29.980 Believe that feminists like are held back and
00:14:31.920 That we need to be empowered ask like what
00:14:33.780 How do we empower women oh motherhood
00:14:35.920 Okay mothers have always been
00:14:37.600 Respected so it's a lot of this
00:14:39.760 people like to have and this is what wokeness does we like to have reasons to justify our
00:14:44.780 existence and where our place in the world like we're held back because of white oppression i'm
00:14:50.280 a feminist i'm an immigrant and this is why i'm where i'm at it makes us feel better about our
00:14:54.300 position in life but if you let go of those attachments and just understand that the world
00:14:57.780 is what you make it you will succeed and you will be better these ways so like racism it's all
00:15:03.020 garbage it's all meant to keep us like down and at the bottom the black lives matter movement for
00:15:07.260 example was all garbage all the psyop all that was a scam same with the feminist movement any of
00:15:12.140 these ideologies that people grasp on to feel better same thing with all these people talking
00:15:15.580 about ukraine and russia like you're not going to change it just go get some money and start a
00:15:19.680 family and just stop attaching yourself to stuff that you have no control over and that and that's
00:15:23.760 the point and he's dead on because like for example people get all up flustered about who
00:15:30.160 wins a presidency oh trump's president i can't dude i don't give a fuck who wins president you
00:15:33.780 could be president tomorrow i'm still gonna win bet your fucking ass i don't care what the
00:15:38.180 condition is i don't care who's in the office you do any of you could be president tomorrow and i'm
00:15:41.880 still gonna get up and go to work the next day can i tell you something very interesting do you
00:15:45.180 know why racism actually exists because nobody said it didn't exist it's not a way to lead your
00:15:49.900 identity it's actually very annoying because what people don't understand is that sometimes you're
00:15:54.600 walking amongst black people or even sometimes a black person will go into a shop and the security
00:15:58.780 guard will look at them and follow them they don't even know they're looking at prints because
00:16:02.600 That's pattern recognition
00:16:03.580 It's pattern recognition
00:16:06.440 No no no listen yeah
00:16:08.180 The problem is that with this whole idea
00:16:10.800 Of racism what people talk about
00:16:12.200 For me I find racism to be an insult
00:16:13.980 Because people look at the color of my skin
00:16:16.040 And they assume I'm lower than what I am
00:16:18.040 No they don't
00:16:19.640 They actually do
00:16:21.720 But coming from the two girls
00:16:24.280 That brought up race though
00:16:25.320 You bring up race immediately
00:16:27.920 The show had been going on five minutes
00:16:29.540 And you both bring up black
00:16:31.440 Never in my mind was I like
00:16:33.760 Can I ask you a question?
00:16:35.300 Can I ask you a question?
00:16:37.000 You said like they, who is they?
00:16:39.400 Just overall the general population
00:16:41.460 In this country at least
00:16:42.780 So would you say like everyone in this room?
00:16:46.380 I don't think that's true
00:16:47.180 I don't think that's true in London
00:16:48.260 I'll explain to you why
00:16:50.300 They hear my accent
00:16:53.120 A lot of the time, they see my skin tone
00:16:55.120 I just want to know who they
00:16:56.120 Just people in general
00:16:57.760 I met you in London
00:16:59.840 So I'm asking you, like, they.
00:17:01.360 Is that this room?
00:17:02.600 Is that, like, everyone in here just met you today?
00:17:04.620 Listen, they, I mean, they is just the people that don't matter to me.
00:17:07.980 I don't need to know their names.
00:17:09.380 And I'm just saying, this is a good sample size of people.
00:17:11.560 These are all random people.
00:17:12.960 Like, you know, I know we know each other, but outside of that.
00:17:16.440 Of course.
00:17:16.860 I relate to a lot of these girls, for example.
00:17:18.400 Could you be projecting insecurities onto other people,
00:17:21.180 making assumptions about what people think about you?
00:17:22.920 Because when I met you, I didn't think, oh, she's lower or she's anything else.
00:17:26.180 You know, whatever.
00:17:26.740 I mean, I just thought, yeah, cool girl.
00:17:28.300 Nice coat.
00:17:28.840 I thought good TV
00:17:29.860 You didn't think good TV
00:17:32.460 I'll explain to you why
00:17:34.240 And this is the same thing
00:17:35.520 That goes perhaps that links more into feminism
00:17:38.240 Is that I just don't like the fact
00:17:40.760 That people assume less
00:17:42.520 Of my capabilities based on something
00:17:44.960 I don't know that they do
00:17:45.920 I'll tell you who her
00:17:48.200 She's the one that put it out in the universe
00:17:49.840 Let me tell you
00:17:51.160 This is victim mindset
00:17:53.400 Literally what she said
00:17:54.420 My biggest comments yet
00:17:57.560 Guys, you guys are troublesome.
00:17:58.980 My biggest comment is like, look at this stupid girl.
00:18:01.440 What does she know?
00:18:02.360 I told Mr. King Riches that I could fix a Bentley.
00:18:05.040 And he laughed.
00:18:05.500 Well, how could you?
00:18:06.980 Why?
00:18:07.380 Because I'm a girl?
00:18:08.820 That's the thing.
00:18:09.680 So feminism, what I think feminism is like.
00:18:11.760 So it's King Riches' fault.
00:18:12.360 Then why not say, but why not respond to King Rich and say, because I have the skill set?
00:18:17.700 Yes.
00:18:18.320 And that's the whole point.
00:18:20.100 That's why feminism as well, what the girls are trying to say.
00:18:22.700 What is the point?
00:18:23.360 Listen, listen.
00:18:23.960 What I believe girls are trying to say is that, listen, don't look at the fact that I'm a girl.
00:18:27.340 I've got the skill set so respect me for my skill set
00:18:29.780 Then lead with it
00:18:30.760 Lead with that I have the skills
00:18:33.640 Of course and the only reason why
00:18:35.480 I mention my race is to separate myself
00:18:37.420 Most women don't have the skill set
00:18:39.920 To fix a car can we just call a spade
00:18:41.760 A spade it's not
00:18:43.040 Feminism holding us back it's us
00:18:45.380 Choosing not to get that skill
00:18:47.220 So people assume that but I don't know
00:18:49.480 How you cling that to me saying that feminism
00:18:51.480 Is holding us back because of that
00:18:52.180 You were saying that like people assume that you couldn't fix
00:18:55.400 a BMW, or people assume that you couldn't
00:18:57.580 fix a BMW. Yeah. And
00:18:59.360 somehow that's tied to, who cares?
00:19:01.440 No, it doesn't matter. That's what I'm saying. Feminism
00:19:03.380 doesn't matter. Girls just want credit
00:19:05.340 for what they can do.
00:19:06.400 I will give you 200 pounds if you can
00:19:09.400 fix a BMW. We can do a video.
00:19:12.000 Let's do it. Oh my God.
00:19:13.420 Stay tuned.
00:19:14.800 I'll teach you. I'll match it.
00:19:16.860 I'll match it because I love that. And if you can,
00:19:19.200 no, I'll match it. Do it. I'm actually doing
00:19:21.100 a series, guys. Make sure that you subscribe to my channel.
00:19:23.360 I love that. And watch
00:19:25.240 me fix a car i fixed the change batteries change tires fix the electric system why because i know
00:19:31.540 how to use google very well and i brought this and i did it love it love it i think anyone who
00:19:36.180 hasn't experienced racism shouldn't say anything about it full stop well okay cool so i grew up
00:19:42.160 quite a while five years five years in a black neighborhood i got in a fight every other day
00:19:46.380 for it okay because i had red hair they called me rooster i literally got in fights every day
00:19:50.000 So you got bullied.
00:19:51.620 That's not racism.
00:19:52.520 Exactly.
00:19:52.900 Oh, it's not.
00:19:53.520 It's discrimination based on what it looks like.
00:19:55.520 It's not.
00:19:55.820 That's exactly what racism is.
00:19:57.540 It's not racism.
00:19:58.440 No, because he wasn't oppressed.
00:19:59.720 We were the ones that oppressed, so you can't call that racism.
00:20:01.220 How are you oppressed?
00:20:02.440 No, but I'm not oppressed.
00:20:02.980 In 2023, how are you oppressed?
00:20:04.420 Because I got news for you, honey.
00:20:06.280 If you had a skill set that was worth something to somebody, you would be the richest fucker
00:20:09.800 in here.
00:20:10.180 So slavery didn't exist?
00:20:11.600 Did slavery exist?
00:20:12.440 Slavery exists.
00:20:13.140 Yeah.
00:20:13.560 It also existed for the IRS.
00:20:15.320 I'm not trying to belittle what happened to black people.
00:20:17.200 I would never.
00:20:17.920 No, I'm not.
00:20:18.500 Why are people in the UK talking about slavery?
00:20:20.780 No, no, no, no, no.
00:20:21.920 Here's why.
00:20:22.800 There was no slaves here.
00:20:24.300 Here's why.
00:20:24.980 No, this is very important.
00:20:26.160 Can we stop?
00:20:27.080 This is very important to me.
00:20:28.480 I have a lot of young black men that follow me.
00:20:30.960 There's no fucking way on earth I'm going to let them believe that they have a lesser chance than anybody else if they just work their ass off.
00:20:37.760 There's no fucking way.
00:20:38.600 I'm not shitting on their dreams like that.
00:20:39.880 I'll be damned.
00:20:40.580 You call me a racist if you want.
00:20:41.980 That's fine, but we have to work on them.
00:20:42.660 You call me a racist all day.
00:20:43.680 I'm not.
00:20:44.000 I don't care.
00:20:44.500 There's no way I'm letting those young men believe that shit.
00:20:46.840 100%.
00:20:47.160 Because I know plenty of black guys.
00:20:48.360 King Rich is here right now.
00:20:49.520 He's a fucking winner all day long
00:20:51.060 because he didn't let that shit happen.
00:20:52.300 100%.
00:20:52.660 We have to work harder.
00:20:53.800 What about all of our friends that are black
00:20:56.460 that are very, very successful?
00:20:57.620 King Rich is why do people listen to you when they see you?
00:20:59.860 Bro, looking at racism is for broke people.
00:21:02.540 No.
00:21:03.280 What I would say.
00:21:04.180 It's just serious.
00:21:04.840 It's just an insult.
00:21:06.640 I just find it insulting.
00:21:07.880 Don't tell me that.
00:21:08.740 It's not insulting.
00:21:09.720 You lead with it.
00:21:10.460 Get a new identity.
00:21:12.360 Especially as a black woman,
00:21:13.560 we are at the bottom of the list.
00:21:14.980 I'm a black girl.
00:21:16.020 What?
00:21:16.540 You're so much more than that.
00:21:17.800 you're so much more than that
00:21:18.780 then don't lead with it
00:21:20.460 it's bullshit
00:21:21.000 I didn't lead with it
00:21:22.820 I use it as a comparison
00:21:23.780 for me to explain
00:21:24.600 why I'm not the same
00:21:25.440 as every girl
00:21:26.060 that puts themselves
00:21:26.720 in one thing
00:21:27.300 then why not tell us
00:21:28.140 the skills you have
00:21:29.120 and the person you are
00:21:30.220 that lead
00:21:31.160 why don't you lead with that
00:21:32.160 oh it's too late
00:21:33.180 I can't speak full language
00:21:34.580 lead with the person you are
00:21:36.060 it's given that
00:21:36.900 you guys hate women
00:21:37.800 that's the vibes right now
00:21:39.240 no no no
00:21:41.140 no no
00:21:41.680 let me be clear
00:21:43.260 I just
00:21:44.520 wait wait wait
00:21:46.160 we have to do one at a time
00:21:47.260 stop
00:21:47.640 can i say something it's not a thing where they hate women if anything they love women for a man
00:21:53.020 to tell you to think positively how is that hatred the people are literally telling us that what we
00:21:58.060 think is what's going to manifest so therefore think positive thoughts and positive things will
00:22:02.380 happen to you you guys on this table who are talking about feminists you're all negative
00:22:05.940 because why would you focus so much on comments why would you focus so much on who's looking at
00:22:10.300 your hairstyle your accent or whatever and then someone comes to tell you actually focus on the
00:22:14.420 positive, and you guys are saying they hate you.
00:22:16.580 No, that's love.
00:22:17.380 You can't focus on it, because just the other day, a man
00:22:20.220 applied for a job, and they told him he can't
00:22:22.520 get a job because of his afro, so you can't tell us to not
00:22:24.420 focus on it when it is the focus.
00:22:26.440 Yes, it did happen. Watch the news.
00:22:28.280 It literally happened the other day. Yeah, but that's his experience.
00:22:30.560 But if he was smart, he's not going to let
00:22:32.480 that hold him back. That's the whole point.
00:22:34.880 That's why he went on the news and he spoke up
00:22:36.560 about it. You can't tell us to not
00:22:38.500 focus on it. If I walk into a certain place
00:22:40.500 with my afro, the first thing people are going to do is stare at me,
00:22:42.440 and certain places won't want to give me the job just because I have
00:22:44.380 You want me to tell you something?
00:22:45.140 Yeah, but that's your mindset.
00:22:46.580 No, but you can't tell me it's my mindset
00:22:48.800 if they have told me I am not giving you the job
00:22:50.700 because of my effort.
00:22:51.440 You can't tell me that's my mindset.
00:22:52.620 My point is that's going to happen point blank, period.
00:22:55.740 That is my point.
00:22:56.440 Yeah, but the world is evil.
00:22:57.920 Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys.
00:23:01.600 Wait, wait, wait.
00:23:02.820 It was in the UK.
00:23:04.360 Try it.
00:23:04.940 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, stop.
00:23:09.700 Wait, thank you.
00:23:10.620 Do you know why you saw that in the news?
00:23:12.020 Because they want you to believe that racism is a real problem
00:23:15.000 It wasn't even on the news so you're lying
00:23:16.620 She just said that it was on the news
00:23:18.460 It was not only on the news, it went viral on Twitter
00:23:21.060 Let's fact check now
00:23:22.540 I said it was on the news
00:23:23.400 No, but you're saying why you saw it on the news
00:23:27.380 Yeah, that's why I saw it
00:23:28.400 So you're adding to it
00:23:29.200 They share these stories like George Floyd
00:23:31.440 And like that Afro nonsense that you saw on the news
00:23:33.460 In order for you to believe that there's a system that's holding you back
00:23:36.300 It's not
00:23:36.980 And you saw here, we're talking about race
00:23:38.960 Hold on, so the man went online and was like
00:23:40.760 I didn't get the job, sat there and didn't have an, at this point, when he got on the news.
00:23:44.100 They pick and chose to run that story because it gives people like you a reason to feel.
00:23:47.560 Not people like me.
00:23:48.660 Exactly, people like you.
00:23:49.560 They used to want to give my mom free food in the market because they didn't believe that white woman could have three little kids with afros.
00:23:56.220 They used to give her food because they used to think that we're little African children that suffer.
00:24:01.000 These times we were quite wealthy.
00:24:02.860 So, for example.
00:24:04.300 Okay, my overall point is that people like to have a victim mindset.
00:24:08.180 It's not a victimization, I'm just saying it exists.
00:24:10.000 Okay.
00:24:10.280 That's it.
00:24:10.620 That's my point, is that we hear this victimized mindset right now in order to give you a way to navigate the world that justifies a lot of your thoughts and beliefs.
00:24:18.420 We're talking about race, and you're like, it's giving misogyny.
00:24:23.140 What does calling out the victimization of the race, you feel the vibrations of misogyny?
00:24:30.160 Yeah, of your mentality.
00:24:32.140 Your mentality is one of, you're a type of man.
00:24:35.840 What type of man?
00:24:36.820 No, sister, they're just here trying to make you look stupid.
00:24:39.180 That's what their job is.
00:24:40.240 It's not that hard
00:24:41.620 It's not that fucking hard
00:24:43.720 Don't take it personal
00:24:44.600 They literally just want to catch you out
00:24:46.140 I'm trying to get to what she really believes
00:24:49.440 King Richard trains me for this
00:24:50.840 What are the vibrations that I'm giving you
00:24:53.100 Why?
00:24:56.460 I'm not being funny
00:24:57.400 What value do you see
00:24:59.100 How do you value women?
00:25:00.940 Do you see the value of women?
00:25:02.160 I explained it five minutes ago
00:25:04.240 I said that I'm against feminism
00:25:06.060 If you're going to call him a misogynist
00:25:09.360 She asked me a question
00:25:10.320 I said the value of a woman is motherhood
00:25:12.740 Is in raising children
00:25:13.760 I said that we respect mothers
00:25:15.500 I opened the show by saying that
00:25:16.780 So what did I say that makes you think that I'm a misogyny
00:25:19.360 That's a serious allegation
00:25:21.460 I said it's giving misogyny
00:25:22.780 What is giving misogyny
00:25:24.100 Your vibration
00:25:24.960 My vibrations
00:25:25.880 You're vibrating misogyny right now
00:25:27.940 So are you vibrating with racism too
00:25:30.360 What goes on
00:25:32.520 Moving a little bit mean that's why
00:25:34.720 I'm moving mean
00:25:35.400 A little bit
00:25:36.040 No, you're trying to put your masculinity into
00:25:38.440 Insertive, and I don't like that
00:25:40.700 That's a bit misogynist
00:25:41.880 It's the masculinity
00:25:44.760 I can feel it, and it's like
00:25:46.260 You're trying to suppress my feminine
00:25:47.800 He needs to be a bit more specific
00:25:51.220 He's trying to suppress your dickhead
00:25:53.800 Like, come on, bro
00:25:55.920 Y'all look, y'all are all smart, pretty young women
00:25:58.280 You can do anything you want to in this fucking world
00:26:00.460 And my message is this, Oprah
00:26:02.400 Listen
00:26:03.120 Fucking, here's the thing
00:26:05.460 And you swear a lot
00:26:07.320 I do, a lot
00:26:08.360 I know, I do, I'm going to keep doing that
00:26:11.380 So, here's the thing
00:26:13.260 There's no planet where I'm going to allow
00:26:15.300 Particularly a young black man to think
00:26:17.300 What about a young white man?
00:26:19.560 Young white man?
00:26:20.780 No, basically sister, don't worry
00:26:22.620 No, no, it's because
00:26:24.700 White and black, we didn't see
00:26:26.420 No, because we're talking about race
00:26:29.000 Particularly right now
00:26:30.360 And I, like, no planet
00:26:32.860 Do I want to ever
00:26:34.840 put out into the universe are allowed to be put out in the universe that a young black man is
00:26:39.340 going to not be able to be successful in his life because of his skin color there's no chance and i
00:26:45.280 will sit here and you can call me whatever you want but i just know too many of them and i know
00:26:49.880 too many that have been successful yeah but you're one of a few you're not like the majority but you
00:26:53.900 have to understand how many people watch this show can i how many people watch your channel
00:26:57.660 it's important no you're not can i challenge you guys but in general it does it doesn't stop you
00:27:03.320 but it does make a little challenge
00:27:04.880 a bit harder in the world, just a little bit.
00:27:07.600 He's like, you're
00:27:09.260 one of the first white men that I've met who
00:27:11.160 have this mentality.
00:27:12.460 No, not one of the first.
00:27:14.260 You know what, honestly, I think most white men...
00:27:17.060 He's politically correct, which is nice.
00:27:19.500 Prejudice exists. Maybe not
00:27:21.180 racism. Let's adjust the word. Not racism.
00:27:23.480 Prejudice is something different.
00:27:25.220 I believe that, and I think that there's prejudice
00:27:27.220 all over the world.
00:27:28.400 There you go, then. I was just a little bit
00:27:30.300 strong and a bit more negative.
00:27:31.760 And a bit lowly.
00:27:33.320 and in countries like japan that are very you know homogenous homogenous they won't even let
00:27:39.340 you in the restaurant unless you're japanese like you guys you think you've seen racism bro
00:27:44.780 there's some places in this world i've been that are turbo racist outwardly and get away with it
00:27:51.160 i think a black person today has a better chance than they've ever had is it completely fair no i
00:27:56.260 don't think so but i don't think life is completely fair at all and there's no way i'm going to let
00:28:01.100 somebody mentally handicapped themselves from the
00:28:03.040 jump. You know, it's true.
00:28:05.140 Would you guys... I don't
00:28:06.940 think it's an impairment to me. I know it made me
00:28:09.060 a bit stronger, but I know
00:28:11.000 it exists and it actually was an obstacle. Then for you, it's
00:28:13.040 a superpower. Yeah, that's it. I just want
00:28:15.100 to reframe it. Thank you. And have a different
00:28:16.940 relationship with it. And it's the same thing. You called us victims at first, but for me,
00:28:19.340 being a black, independent woman is a
00:28:20.980 superwoman. Because she led with it. I'm leading with my superpower.
00:28:23.580 What do you want me to do? Yeah, as she said, she's leading.
00:28:24.960 Yeah, but it didn't sound like a superpower then, did it?
00:28:26.980 No, because you didn't allow me to finish. You started saying
00:28:28.940 know you're leading with that what does that have to do you became challenging and this is the
00:28:31.860 problem this is why she said you guys are feeling a little bit like misogyny but that's not what
00:28:36.060 she means it's like you're going to be very aggressive and very challenging they're just
00:28:39.340 talking with passion because it's important it's important it's important because you have to go
00:28:45.420 out into the world with the absolute mindset that regardless of your circumstances regardless of
00:28:49.740 your background or your racial ethnicity or anything that you can go out and you can make
00:28:54.460 a success of your life we all have to do that a hundred percent and that's why they're getting
00:28:58.080 so I'm passionate about it.
00:28:58.880 You know what real love...
00:28:59.260 Because it's really important.
00:29:00.660 Exactly.
00:29:01.100 No, he's dead on.
00:29:01.800 You know what real love looks like?
00:29:04.620 In my opinion, real love is dark.
00:29:06.640 And real love takes risks.
00:29:07.980 So let's say you're fucking up.
00:29:09.540 Let's just say it was racism.
00:29:11.320 I'm willing to step in front of you
00:29:13.140 and have you be angry with me
00:29:14.240 so I can somehow change
00:29:16.820 where you're fucking up
00:29:17.820 and you can be mad at me if you want
00:29:19.040 because most people,
00:29:20.080 people that don't give a shit about you,
00:29:21.300 will let you leave and be like,
00:29:22.380 that bitch is fucking up.
00:29:23.700 I would much rather get into
00:29:24.940 a heated argument with you
00:29:26.040 and have the courage to sit in front of you
00:29:27.420 and tell you my truth
00:29:28.080 and have the thought
00:29:29.180 of somebody thinking
00:29:30.140 that I'm racist
00:29:30.960 on the internet
00:29:31.440 I'd rather do that
00:29:32.980 than let the young men
00:29:34.100 that follow me
00:29:34.800 believe they don't have a shot
00:29:36.160 I'd much rather
00:29:37.060 sit in that
00:29:38.020 and to me
00:29:38.940 that's the only kind
00:29:39.860 of friends I want
00:29:40.500 is people that are
00:29:40.980 going to tell me the truth
00:29:41.560 when I'm fucking up
00:29:42.260 so you get mad at me
00:29:43.420 but I just hate
00:29:44.300 to see it led that way
00:29:45.720 I'd much rather hear
00:29:46.400 about the skills you have
00:29:47.240 and I'm with you Pearl
00:29:48.940 I'll triple the 200
00:29:50.320 and then are you going to say
00:29:50.740 well done to my skills
00:29:51.780 or are you going to say
00:29:52.280 go back in the kitchen
00:29:53.240 fuck yeah
00:29:54.240 fuck yeah
00:29:54.260 no
00:29:54.500 you know how much
00:29:56.160 Do you know how much women privilege you have?
00:29:58.400 You just got offered $1,000 to see if you could fix a car.
00:30:01.880 And that's what I'm saying.
00:30:02.940 It's a superpower.
00:30:03.860 Should I take it black because you're a black girl?
00:30:05.920 No, don't take it back.
00:30:07.240 I'm a hustler.
00:30:08.380 Actually, do you hear the black privilege, too?
00:30:10.020 I peeped it a little bit earlier.
00:30:11.720 Black people and minorities in general have more freedom of speech than white people.
00:30:15.380 Because you just said that, in my experience, white people aren't like this.
00:30:19.340 And he's the first white guy you've ever seen act that way.
00:30:22.020 You're able to say, and that's pattern recognition.
00:30:24.520 If a white person said the same thing, that would be seen as racist.
00:30:28.480 You can't make judgments about other minorities like that.
00:30:31.680 White people have the least amount of freedom of speech right now because immediately, and especially right now, you call it saying that you're vibrating with misogyny because I'm speaking aggressively towards you.
00:30:40.040 That victim mentality gives you a lot more free speech than you're really aware of.
00:30:43.440 If I say something that upsets you, it's misogynistic.
00:30:45.760 If you see patterns in different races, that's just seen as your worldview.
00:30:50.600 view if he said the same thing oh you're the first black girl that talked that way in my experience
00:30:54.640 you would call him a racist yeah he makes a good point because if somebody if one of us guys said
00:30:58.900 oh this this woman over here she's she's i can feel the vibration of her toxic femininity
00:31:03.020 you know we'd just be like cancelled immediately not really no they would just call us retarded
00:31:08.000 that's just a retarded thing to say i think racism and all of these issues do exist but i feel like
00:31:16.000 i agree with you guys and thank you guys because you actually gave me a new way of thinking that
00:31:19.900 we don't have to use this as a barrier
00:31:21.680 because at the end of the day what we think is what will manifest
00:31:23.860 They do exist, they absolutely 100%
00:31:26.060 do exist but regardless of that
00:31:27.820 you still have to go out
00:31:29.300 and you still have to go out into the world and make it work
00:31:31.920 for you because that's the only thing
00:31:33.840 that we've got. And think about it this way
00:31:35.400 if racism was such this big barrier that you guys
00:31:37.940 are exaggerating it to be why would we have black
00:31:39.860 billionaires like Jay-Z and Kanye West?
00:31:42.040 Well absolutely, I mean if you think
00:31:43.980 about it, if you think about any ethnicity
00:31:45.520 any background, any social class
00:31:47.420 There are examples of people who've gone on
00:31:50.000 To become hugely, hugely successful
00:31:52.140 So that's what you've got to look at
00:31:53.960 At an incredibly disproportional rate
00:31:56.180 Not the guy who
00:31:57.240 That's a really important point
00:31:59.080 So in America, blacks are 13% of the population
00:32:01.580 Of course most of the white people
00:32:03.240 Are making the money
00:32:04.660 It's just the amount of people
00:32:06.740 But at the same time, there's more
00:32:09.340 Poor white people than there are going to be poor black people
00:32:11.720 Just by statistical numbers
00:32:13.480 You know what I'm saying?
00:32:14.640 But the population of incarcerations
00:32:17.800 Although it's only 13% of the black population
00:32:20.100 So how much of it is crime though?
00:32:22.240 How much of it is crime though?
00:32:23.780 But it's higher than the white people, right?
00:32:26.040 More black people in prison
00:32:27.400 By percentage
00:32:28.400 So would you say that's suppression or black people's culture?
00:32:32.420 And this is the thing
00:32:33.560 I'm asking
00:32:34.240 You hit the best point
00:32:36.040 It is a cultural thing
00:32:38.480 What does that mean?
00:32:40.940 I'll tell you
00:32:42.460 Can I say it?
00:32:43.120 It is cultural
00:32:44.580 because this is the thing now with racism because of culture and how things
00:32:49.440 happened back in the day,
00:32:50.400 people have just been stuck in kind of like that limbo of like, okay,
00:32:53.260 what do we do now?
00:32:54.440 Black people are still trying to catch up with a lot of things.
00:32:56.640 So that's why right now, yeah, it is still a cultural thing.
00:33:00.580 And what we can do is say the things that you were saying is empower yourself
00:33:03.680 regardless of what you look like,
00:33:05.200 because you are letting the cultural context ruin your prospects because you're
00:33:11.140 letting that make you be less when you're not.
00:33:12.840 And why are you acting so surprised when he said cultural?
00:33:15.500 I'm surprised too.
00:33:17.000 I'm surprised.
00:33:18.000 Wait, wait, wait.
00:33:18.580 What do you mean?
00:33:19.060 Why am I acting surprised?
00:33:20.100 Aren't you a rapper?
00:33:21.220 So?
00:33:22.940 What does that mean?
00:33:23.760 What genre of music advocates for murder all the time?
00:33:26.860 Hip-hop.
00:33:27.720 Hip-hop.
00:33:28.480 Yeah.
00:33:29.260 So you're a rapper.
00:33:30.360 You know the genre is black-dominated.
00:33:32.640 They advocate for violence all the time.
00:33:34.280 And you're going to be like, cultural?
00:33:35.520 You know what my problem with it is, actually, that I hate?
00:33:37.940 It's when a young black man goes and gets successful.
00:33:40.080 And obviously, because of the numbers and the businessmen in the world,
00:33:42.840 He ends up working with white people, and they call him an Uncle Tom.
00:33:45.200 And I think that's bullshit.
00:33:46.920 What's that?
00:33:47.900 I think, no.
00:33:48.700 No, it is bullshit.
00:33:49.540 I think they only call you an Uncle Tom if you're acting a certain way.
00:33:53.500 Like speaking correctly?
00:33:54.820 No, no, as in, like, no, no, no, I'm not trying to be disrespectful.
00:33:58.240 I would never.
00:33:58.800 No, I agree with you.
00:33:59.400 But when I've seen people call someone an Uncle Tom,
00:34:02.100 it's in a sense where you're just, from what I've seen is they will,
00:34:05.380 like, when I watch NWA is they made all the black guys just get on the floor
00:34:09.880 for no reason just because they were black.
00:34:11.120 And the black policeman is just standing for it
00:34:12.960 I would call that an Uncle Tom
00:34:13.980 Which happened in real life by the way
00:34:17.060 It's a documentary so it's not fake
00:34:18.720 It happened in real life though
00:34:21.480 That's what I'm telling you
00:34:22.220 Can I ask you a question
00:34:23.420 A good 40-50% of people that have been incarcerated
00:34:27.660 Is because of something that they didn't do
00:34:29.580 How is that culture for the people
00:34:31.320 Do you think it's 40-50% of both
00:34:33.140 I think it's a high percentage for black people
00:34:35.520 Can I say something very quickly
00:34:36.920 Can I say something very quickly
00:34:39.180 Pearl, my sister, listen, let me just
00:34:41.220 Can I just help you around this conversation
00:34:42.960 Because I know it can be awkward, especially with what happened
00:34:45.000 Guys, she is not racist, she's a G
00:34:47.280 Racism is not
00:34:49.260 A hindrance, it is a challenge, but you can
00:34:51.220 Overcome it, and I'm so sorry that I
00:34:53.220 Brought that into the conversation, because we're talking about
00:34:55.200 Feminism, and feminism is destructive
00:34:57.180 Okay, so I'm so sorry Pearl
00:34:59.360 I didn't mean to change the conversation
00:35:01.360 In your opinion, a lot of you guys
00:35:03.280 Who have this opinion about feminism being
00:35:05.220 Destructive, feminism is the reason
00:35:07.480 You're here, you're here, you're here
00:35:09.040 It kind of is though
00:35:10.780 Because if we're being honest
00:35:12.060 The Equal Pay Act
00:35:13.560 Women even getting into work
00:35:15.220 But who started the whole movement
00:35:18.280 For women to even come out of the kitchen
00:35:20.240 Who did all of that
00:35:23.160 Like who did all of that
00:35:24.340 And that's just recent generations
00:35:26.200 I know from what I know
00:35:27.620 My knowledge of feminism
00:35:28.700 In terms of the destructive feminism
00:35:32.560 Came from
00:35:34.540 I think it's always been destructive
00:35:36.880 I mean even in the early days
00:35:38.420 They planned assassinations.
00:35:39.700 It's always been freedom at the expense of men.
00:35:42.820 Always.
00:35:43.720 Even like let's take the vote.
00:35:45.340 Like the vote was one of the first things that we got, right?
00:35:47.500 Would you agree that was a good thing that women got to vote?
00:35:50.000 Yes.
00:35:50.540 Okay, but then women were not equally drafted.
00:35:52.560 So if there's a war that breaks out, the men are the ones that have to go fight.
00:35:56.460 So that's why women didn't want to vote because they had to be drafted in order to vote.
00:36:00.320 Because if you're voting for in the U.S., it's the commander in chief who picks if we go to war.
00:36:04.540 That's who you're voting for.
00:36:05.600 So you have to have some skin in the game.
00:36:07.240 So again, women wanted the freedom.
00:36:08.680 They want to say, oh, let's vote.
00:36:09.920 But they didn't get the responsibility that comes with it.
00:36:12.220 In the U.S., selective service is up to $200,000 per year.
00:36:16.400 So if they don't enlist, basically, if war breaks out and they don't sign up for the service, basically, they get fined $200,000.
00:36:24.860 But do you know why women should still have a say?
00:36:26.780 Because the same way that men are the ones that go to war that could get killed, it's the same way that women are then going to be left behind without a father at home or without a husband at home.
00:36:34.260 So there's effects of war on both sides
00:36:38.060 That's why it shouldn't just be men making decisions
00:36:40.000 We're all part of this society
00:36:41.480 So if democracy is about people, we are all people
00:36:44.200 So that's why the vote makes sense
00:36:45.440 I just think make it equal
00:36:48.500 Feminists want equality
00:36:49.600 Then be equally drafted and go on the front lines
00:36:51.660 But then women say, oh no, I don't want to do that
00:36:53.560 Okay, well then
00:36:54.380 And it doesn't have to be about the vote
00:36:56.240 All of feminism is, I want special treatment
00:36:59.080 Because you always hear the feminists talk about
00:37:01.780 Oh, equal pay
00:37:03.320 Even though we get paid more in a lot of industries
00:37:05.600 You never talk about equal pay and sex work
00:37:07.520 Why are women strippers paid more
00:37:09.280 Oh no let's go march
00:37:10.560 But nobody cares
00:37:11.800 And this is why I find feminism to be completely contradicting
00:37:15.220 Because women will say things like
00:37:16.620 I want to have equal pay
00:37:17.800 I want to be making this amount of money as men
00:37:20.600 And then the minute they find men that's making less money than them
00:37:23.120 He's a simp or he's soft
00:37:24.920 Yeah
00:37:27.200 It's very contradicting a lot of the times
00:37:29.660 You guys want equal pay
00:37:30.820 You guys want equal sexual liberation
00:37:33.020 Women that talk about equal pay are lazy.
00:37:36.900 Lazy.
00:37:37.480 It's usually, they just, I cannot stand women that complain about getting paid equal.
00:37:43.720 Because I've worked in so many industries that are begging women to work there.
00:37:47.240 But there are hard jobs and women don't want to work there.
00:37:49.200 I used to work in sales.
00:37:50.220 They wanted female salesmen.
00:37:52.280 But then the women would get the job and they would quit.
00:37:54.560 It's just like, what are you?
00:37:55.600 My highest paid employee in all my companies is a woman.
00:37:58.960 Straight up.
00:37:59.660 And it's by a landslide.
00:38:00.900 Just Christmas bonus alone was 30 grand
00:38:03.740 On top of her salary
00:38:05.240 And all of her health benefits, her gym membership
00:38:07.720 Her car, everything, and her travel
00:38:09.660 And the vacations I send her on
00:38:11.440 Do you know what, can I say something that is really cute about feminists
00:38:14.040 I think that feminists are just little girls
00:38:16.160 That manage to do something
00:38:17.380 And they're so excited
00:38:18.420 And they just want people to say, yay you, well done
00:38:21.900 No, but she produces the most too
00:38:24.840 I know, I know
00:38:25.340 But I'm talking about feminists
00:38:26.660 Because I realize that sometimes I'm looking at these girls
00:38:29.120 and say, yeah, what we call rights, we want this,
00:38:31.120 we want that, and realistically, no, you just want the man
00:38:33.060 to be able to say to you, oh, you're a G as well,
00:38:35.340 well done, and it's actually quite annoying
00:38:37.080 because you don't need that validation, you know
00:38:39.080 what I mean, because for me, I don't...
00:38:40.960 That's you. No, I know, and that's why I'm saying
00:38:43.000 I don't like feminism. But my opinion is
00:38:45.220 most of the feminists that I've met are actually
00:38:47.300 men, so I'm just a bit like men and trans women.
00:38:48.880 Yeah, because it's a mating strategy.
00:38:50.480 It's a mating strategy. Of course they are,
00:38:52.960 those are the simps, the ones
00:38:55.060 that go and placate to women and act
00:38:56.980 like they want to be male feminists,
00:38:58.940 Those are the simps they hate guys like us
00:39:01.060 They hate it
00:39:01.720 It's white knight shit
00:39:03.800 A guy that lives by truth and just calls it how it is
00:39:06.800 And guess what you know what that creates
00:39:08.600 Respect and your respect means with a man and a woman
00:39:10.980 Love you can't respect a man
00:39:13.020 That you know is full of shit you can't
00:39:15.140 What are you talking you said
00:39:16.680 This wanting validation for men for being
00:39:19.120 Equal you just wanted him to validate
00:39:21.180 You for being able to fix a car
00:39:22.540 No
00:39:22.880 You keep talking about yourself
00:39:26.880 Do you know why you're getting confused?
00:39:29.320 Because you've already immediately labeled me to be a feminist.
00:39:31.660 I'm standing against it.
00:39:32.420 It's not about feminism.
00:39:33.560 You said that feminism is wanting to get validation for men for being equal.
00:39:36.520 Let me clarify.
00:39:37.240 You got mad at him for not being able to fix a car,
00:39:39.260 and we just all gave you money up to go fix a car.
00:39:41.540 I have students like you.
00:39:42.320 Let me explain why you're actually just looking for an argument.
00:39:45.400 Because I'm saying that—
00:39:46.040 It's not an argument.
00:39:46.680 I'm just trying to see the double standard of what you're saying.
00:39:48.900 Feminists are actually a bit confused,
00:39:50.740 and they're screaming for so many things,
00:39:52.420 when in reality what they're actually looking for is just,
00:39:54.860 yay, well done.
00:39:56.080 That's it.
00:39:56.880 Because women cannot go and do certain things.
00:39:58.680 Newsflash, men go to work all day, every day, and nobody thanks them.
00:40:02.300 Exactly.
00:40:02.880 It's a thankless world.
00:40:03.980 Listen, and that's what I'm saying.
00:40:04.860 Having a movement for it is quite pointless.
00:40:07.220 Say well done to yourself, and it's okay.
00:40:09.120 So I'm actually against feminism because it actually hinders me.
00:40:11.880 I get called that all the time, and it's so annoying.
00:40:13.920 Completely agree with you.
00:40:14.780 You're contradicting yourself there.
00:40:15.580 I'm not, because I've already told you.
00:40:16.900 So why did we all put up money to go fix a car if you're not exactly what you just described?
00:40:21.600 Okay.
00:40:22.220 And let me tell you why I am not a feminist in that essence.
00:40:25.600 because that's what I want.
00:40:27.100 I want just somebody to say to me,
00:40:28.800 oh, by the way, if I tell you that I can fix a car,
00:40:32.220 oh, yeah, cool, that's good.
00:40:33.280 Well done to you because I got skills.
00:40:35.040 Validation.
00:40:35.520 Wait, wait, no.
00:40:36.880 What are you talking about?
00:40:38.820 She's exactly what she's describing right now.
00:40:41.560 I'm explaining to you the difference
00:40:43.440 between what they say they want,
00:40:44.920 what they actually really want.
00:40:46.240 That's it.
00:40:47.280 So what do you want?
00:40:48.440 Well, I just want to be able to be somewhere,
00:40:50.680 do something.
00:40:51.220 Somebody say, yeah, that's really good.
00:40:52.180 Well done.
00:40:52.640 So basically your family.
00:40:53.520 i'm saying i'm belittling the fact that feminists will stand there say equal rights we want all of
00:41:04.620 this when in reality you're just a sweet little girl that just wants to be like well done but
00:41:08.160 they're angry without all of those movements you wouldn't be here i would be no you wouldn't
00:41:13.480 50 years ago yes 50 years ago dead ass no like without those women actually taking the logic
00:41:19.980 upon themselves you know using that logic whether it was to do what meant what was the example that
00:41:25.660 you gave when they were terrorists men have been known terrorists for a very long time we're
00:41:30.600 talking back to the 1700s but what outcomes has that given for women has that given us good
00:41:36.660 outcomes are we happier no or do we have more children no are we on are we're on anti we're
00:41:43.200 on antidepressants more than ever before yes is this because we're more sexually promiscuous than
00:41:48.940 ever before we're in less relationships than ever before more of us are childless over 30 than ever
00:41:54.120 before what outcomes has happened that it's that are good we can point to individual things and
00:41:59.160 say yes we're on a podcast that's fun but in society as as a whole what what good has it done
00:42:06.200 it got me to meet you
00:42:08.020 but also the other the other issue with it is at what point you're talking about yeah 50 years ago
00:42:17.460 and that's how you've got to this point
00:42:18.860 and everything like that.
00:42:19.700 There's a sort of,
00:42:20.180 but I believe there is an even playing field now
00:42:22.340 in, certainly in the UK,
00:42:24.040 I think in the United States as well,
00:42:25.840 Canada, all these Anglosphere countries, right?
00:42:27.500 I don't believe that women are now held back
00:42:29.300 in any material way, okay?
00:42:31.480 In terms of the job market,
00:42:32.580 in terms of opportunities,
00:42:33.500 being an entrepreneur, et cetera, et cetera.
00:42:35.160 So at what point-
00:42:35.860 That's what affects the feminism.
00:42:37.280 No, absolutely.
00:42:38.420 Exactly.
00:42:38.820 But at what point do we say,
00:42:40.960 okay, right, now the conversation is closed
00:42:42.840 because now we move forward.
00:42:44.960 I would go even further
00:42:46.180 and say that women have more freedom than men.
00:42:48.940 Yeah, 100%.
00:42:50.080 Because of feminism.
00:42:51.660 And that's where it becomes destructive
00:42:53.060 because it seems now that the power balance
00:42:57.080 has shifted more into the feminine
00:42:59.080 and then guys are actually being disadvantaged now.
00:43:01.320 I do think that's the problem of modern day feminism.
00:43:04.480 I think that everyone wants women empowerment
00:43:07.300 and I'm for women empowerment,
00:43:09.220 but we can't pick and choose
00:43:11.480 when we want feminism to take place.
00:43:13.780 say for example like we want a man to provide for us and care for us and some people might
00:43:19.940 want to be a housewife but then also you want the the other side of it and you want to take
00:43:25.560 control in the relationship or vice versa yeah but she doesn't really want that like it's not
00:43:30.940 actually equal because it's like who say for example certain areas of work like a bin man
00:43:37.040 very few women want to be a bin man they will say it's i would say zero yeah they would say
00:43:42.980 it's a man's job but then if you want to look at feminism you guys want equality but when it
00:43:47.920 comes to certain jobs you don't want to do them when it comes to certain certain instances you
00:43:53.680 don't want to be involved in them so it doesn't really i think feminists pick and choose yeah
00:43:58.360 when it benefits them no but i think that's something i would say i think the issue here
00:44:03.220 is you guys are not trying to like not you guys in general but just like women who are like i'm
00:44:07.960 not a feminist but everything that you've actually being made like and alive right now i mean and
00:44:13.700 it's back to my point of the 50 years ago 100 years ago when your ancestors and your great
00:44:18.000 great great grandmothers are sitting there in the kitchen unable to do anything yeah like
00:44:22.780 feminism has benefited every woman in today's society yeah i was about to say i would suspect
00:44:28.740 those women are happier than these women currently how and how are they happy are they're not even
00:44:33.140 here i would actually prefer to be where women was in the 20s because the pressure for me as a
00:44:37.560 lady to work can be very exhausting so when you sit here and say that oh this is the reason why
00:44:42.040 i'm here today most women really don't most women i'll be honest with you we do all of this work
00:44:46.540 boss chick stuff because of the pressure that this feminist woman has put on women to not be
00:44:51.280 lazy and to get up and work so when you sit here and say oh this is the reason why you guys are
00:44:55.300 here and da da da da da most of us really don't want to be don't forget that you're black and
00:44:59.480 i want freedom the first wait wait just to correct something the first female million
00:45:07.540 it was um in the early it was in 1900 so yeah the hair shop lady no but everyone says they couldn't
00:45:12.840 um vote or they couldn't work until like the 50s and 60s but before that there was a female
00:45:17.340 millionaire so there someone did it yeah that's nice weren't held back well to be honest making
00:45:23.360 money is not really that hard you know this is the thing if you are capable you can do anything
00:45:29.460 whether you're a man or woman the problem with feminism i think is that it displaces women a
00:45:33.600 lot of the time because you're trying to make us be something that we're not like i work for
00:45:37.420 myself i i i do i would say i am a boss in what i do but i'm not a boss baby and i have to be
00:45:42.440 proved to my man that i'm this woman and you i deserve certain things i all i want is not because
00:45:47.180 i'm a feminist just because i'm a person that likes to be told well then i just want if i'm
00:45:50.620 with a man to be like oh that's quite cool you know well done for trying that that's it but i
00:45:54.520 don't really get anything against that i don't really get too many people sometimes especially
00:45:58.420 the people that know me telling me things like oh you're a woman you shouldn't do this so do you
00:46:02.160 want validation from men or not i just want i don't it's not just from men i want it from anybody
00:46:06.700 Even women that will look at me and be like, no, you can't do that.
00:46:09.860 Women do that to each other.
00:46:10.820 So I don't want to be boxed in because I'm a woman.
00:46:13.020 I just want to be treated like normal.
00:46:14.800 Just it's fine.
00:46:15.580 It seems like your value system is extremely external and exists in other people's minds.
00:46:19.400 No, not really.
00:46:20.000 This is in terms of the context of the conversation, because I think you can tell that I don't actually need much external validation.
00:46:25.700 I'm quite gassed by myself.
00:46:26.900 Thank you.
00:46:28.020 But it seems like in some industries, say in London, we're in London now, right?
00:46:31.000 I mean, if you look at media industry, if you look at advertising, certain types of like information technology and stuff like that, it's very actually female based.
00:46:38.820 You know, you've got like, say, the advertising industry, you've got more female leaders in that space than you have men.
00:46:43.460 So it seems to me at some point we have to say, right, well, the balance has been addressed now.
00:46:48.640 I think so. It's getting there. I think women need to just kind of like empower themselves, not request for the stuff.
00:46:54.160 And then it goes back to what they were saying before, which is like, OK, man or woman, you've got to go out into the world and you've got to bend it to your will.
00:46:59.800 right you've got to make it you've got to make your own narrative and not and not fall back on
00:47:03.420 these you know victimhood things yes you you summed that up nicely i can see you've got good
00:47:08.420 experience talking to people and making them understand the simple and basics oh i like that
00:47:13.300 thank you for summarizing it that way but you made a good point in the sense that like when is
00:47:18.180 that's then the thing is with feminism is never ending every week every month there's a new issue
00:47:23.560 it's so unnecessary that these feminists won and it's just like when are you guys going to be
00:47:28.420 satisfied that's my problem and that's when it becomes destructive but i don't think you can say
00:47:32.300 that is unnecessary to them because if they fall away they fall away so i don't think they can
00:47:35.940 feel stupid they can have stupid beliefs and feelings yeah but that doesn't make it reality
00:47:40.700 just because they feel aware just because the girl feels like she was discriminated because
00:47:45.400 of her gender it doesn't mean that she was and that's the big problem of this generation is we
00:47:49.500 don't know how to differentiate between what we're feeling and what's actually reality like i get
00:47:53.420 That's what they're feeling
00:47:54.440 But right now I'm feeling like a dog
00:47:56.440 Am I a dog?
00:47:57.380 No
00:47:57.580 Exactly
00:47:58.220 So we have to learn to differentiate
00:47:59.540 Between what we're feeling
00:48:00.540 And what's actually facts
00:48:01.620 And we need to do that
00:48:02.600 By calling people stupid
00:48:03.840 Or saying that they're acting
00:48:04.820 Like dickheads when they are
00:48:05.800 Like if someone says
00:48:06.780 You're vibrating with misogyny
00:48:08.260 That should be called stupid
00:48:09.820 Like respectfully
00:48:10.740 Like that was a stupid thing to say
00:48:12.300 It's an analogy
00:48:12.980 It's a figure of speech as well
00:48:14.580 Don't be so mean
00:48:15.380 What's the analogy?
00:48:16.460 The analogy is basically
00:48:17.260 She's saying you're coming
00:48:17.960 A bit aggressive
00:48:18.560 Your energy is coming
00:48:19.340 A bit tense
00:48:19.920 I even felt it
00:48:20.840 So I reworded what she said
00:48:22.560 Tense?
00:48:23.020 and misogynistic
00:48:24.660 are two very different things.
00:48:27.900 Yeah, but the accusation was real.
00:48:29.740 It wasn't a figure of speech. The accusation was real.
00:48:31.760 And I stand on it.
00:48:32.300 And she does stand on it.
00:48:33.860 So you're trying to justify it.
00:48:35.940 And that's my point. We need to call that stupid
00:48:38.240 when people say stupid things like that.
00:48:39.980 And what do those accusations do?
00:48:42.180 Sneeko's a bit different because
00:48:43.340 his industry is to get cancelled.
00:48:46.060 Exactly. That's why.
00:48:47.840 In a way. But it's like for the average person
00:48:49.980 that you label them that, that could ruin their entire
00:48:52.120 career yeah it's a bit like it's a bit like using the term creepy isn't it and then it's sort of
00:48:55.740 like if a woman calls a guy creepy just the fact that she said it is it's believed because she she
00:49:01.440 says i felt that he was creepy so it's like oh right okay so therefore he was creepy because
00:49:05.300 you're saying you felt like that but where's the where's the sort of foundational truth of that
00:49:09.840 statement right and it's like saying vibrating with misogyny okay well okay it was tense but
00:49:14.300 we're in a debate right so what's the misogynistic element of that they were just having a debate
00:49:19.920 Because why is he looking at her as an op?
00:49:22.700 Just because she's a girl.
00:49:26.640 If there was four guys sitting on the couch and they were making the same point.
00:49:31.320 That's what a debate is.
00:49:32.100 They would have said the same things.
00:49:32.960 If we have different points of view, we are disagreeing.
00:49:35.000 But you don't know me, so don't go against me because we could actually agree on things.
00:49:39.280 That's the whole point.
00:49:40.000 Don't go against me gender-based.
00:49:42.140 I don't like that.
00:49:42.760 That's given misogyny.
00:49:43.460 That was the vibe.
00:49:45.840 I don't know if it was off the gender.
00:49:47.980 I'm sorry.
00:49:48.360 I didn't mean to interrupt you.
00:49:49.700 different opinions it has nothing to do with womanhood because your boundaries of like
00:49:57.220 aggressive like tonality in the way you speak you don't you know
00:50:02.320 I got canceled for talking about COVID in the election had nothing to do with vibrating
00:50:09.900 misogyny I don't know you feel a little bit aggressive I'm not gonna lie
00:50:13.300 That's it.
00:50:18.760 This is your job?