SNEAKO - FINAL DAY OF RAMADAN - SNEAKO X MOHAMMED HIJAB

00:00:00.000 in the past couple days very crowded bro that seemed like too much work a lot of work a lot

00:00:04.720 of work no just to get to the restaurant to get food and stuff it was a submission but why'd you

00:00:10.960 drive do you have some water i've got some here okay yeah it's not something though

00:00:17.120 okay we should start in about 15 seconds probably

00:00:20.400 you could probably you could see the viewfinder in the backpack if you see that screen does it look

00:00:24.400 okay if we're both sitting in the frame it's showing yeah i know it should show on the

00:00:37.360 on this you see you see that screen yeah it looks good

00:00:40.000 uh but what's it called uh km came pm yeah yeah so that starts now that ends at two well that's how

00:00:58.320 it was in uh mecca not not ends at two i mean it did once or twice but it would be about an hour

00:01:04.000 oh 15. oh so we're probably gonna miss it yeah yeah yeah okay it's exhausting i want to talk

00:01:11.280 about i want to talk about the the first ramen on experience um okay there we go right when uh

00:01:18.320 right when the stream starts i want to i think we're good i have some questions too from my community

00:01:25.360 that they they wanted to know of course okay they're saying looks good sounds good hey salam

00:01:29.840 alaykum guys the stream started right when the the prayer call went off for how do you say it again

00:01:33.520 kiam kiam i keep uh mispronouncing it we have muhammad ajab back in medina you just came straight

00:01:39.520 from mecca i saw everyone's posting the videos online it's the most crowded it's like three million

00:01:43.040 people in that city right now absolutely bro it's very difficult even just to get to the restaurant

00:01:47.760 anywhere you want to get you know you have to hustle you have to fight you know this but everyone is

00:01:53.920 there for a mission and it's one of those experiences where that you really feel like

00:01:58.080 de-individualized like you feel like there's something greater than you that you're doing

00:02:02.560 do you know what i mean it's it doesn't matter who you are where you come from or what money you have

00:02:06.800 or what background or status you think you have when you're there it's it's indiscriminate it doesn't

00:02:12.240 they don't i mean people don't care about that you're dead to do it you know the rituals and stuff

00:02:16.960 like that and so it's a humbling experience but it's also a very powerful experience was it like

00:02:22.480 was it okay on your feet like i saw were you able to do umrah and get by and i was you know

00:02:28.560 i don't know what it is but i feel like with anything long distance i find it difficult

00:02:32.560 because i'm what for me like i've got my my ring it tells me like this is called an aura ring so it

00:02:37.840 tells you aura ring like a-u-r-a-o-u-r-a okay yeah so it tells me like the steps of my sleeping and

00:02:44.320 everything like that um and so what it told me is that with the amra it was about eight to nine miles

00:02:49.680 okay of the approximation of eight miles nine miles of walking plus um yeah about nine miles

00:02:58.240 of walking uh 13 15 000 steps i don't know what it was and it took me about two and a half hours to

00:03:04.080 complete um and bumping in the shoulders with everybody yeah yeah i mean it's wheelchairs over

00:03:09.760 your feet for me i can't i find anything long distance whether it's long distance walking

00:03:15.040 running i'm not a lighter you know i find it difficult some people that are lighter we find

00:03:19.840 it more easy like people that i speak to that way less they find it like a breeze nothing but for me it

00:03:26.400 hurts my back it hurts my feet it's it's you're grinding you know in these kinds of experiences

00:03:30.640 experiences and then how how did you get over here you drove here today i don't know why you did

00:03:34.480 that it was how long was the drive like seven hours four hours no no it was about four hours i just

00:03:39.120 i know there's the bullet train but uh yeah it's just um sometimes i prefer being in the car you know

00:03:46.320 i understand and everybody uh people online are saying that this there's something special about

00:03:51.520 this ramadan would you agree like is it i don't know maybe it's my first one but it seems like

00:03:55.600 um it's has it been more packed than it usually is i haven't come here before in ramadan

00:04:00.480 i've come i've done two hajj's before and five amras um i haven't ever come in ramadan the hajj is

00:04:07.040 actually more crowded it is okay yeah it's more crowded uh but this for a non-hajj time

00:04:16.080 it was was almost comparable with hajj um but in terms of the crowding is uh it's almost frightening

00:04:24.480 it's scary in fact if someone's never been in a situation like that for example westerners if

00:04:28.960 they're watching this and they'd be they'd go to things like a football match a soccer match

00:04:33.040 or football match or even a festival or a cello rolling yeah and what we're gonna say in that

00:04:38.160 situation maximum 200 000 people would come even for a world cup final what we're saying two 300 000

00:04:43.200 people so to have a place where there's a million two million three million three million three million

00:04:48.560 in mecca yeah and and you have to organize that you know it's it's not easy at all it's not easy at

00:04:54.720 all it was so packed yesterday for tarawi that i couldn't even like it was the people were lined up

00:04:59.760 all the way to my hotel yeah i didn't even i so i just woke up i walked downstairs uh after i made

00:05:04.320 wudu and then people were just praying in the lobby and i ran into muhammad boy i have a guy filming

00:05:08.320 behind the camera his little brother was there praying next to me like i think how old is he 12 yeah

00:05:12.800 yeah 10 he's 10 years old it's just been it was 33 minutes straight it was a long i have to admit

00:05:18.160 you you seem tired uh but i i'm exhausted yeah the sleep schedule's brutal yeah um the i don't know

00:05:25.040 like i don't want to be complaining too much but it's just like it's just sleep pray sleep pray

00:05:30.080 it goes tarawi then kiyam then fajr then especially if you did your amara whilst you're fasting yeah

00:05:36.000 because that can be difficult is that what you did yeah i've done that it was it was a difficult day of

00:05:39.680 fasting for me very difficult but um one thing which is inspirational was seeing people like i've

00:05:45.040 seen people that almost cripple like handicapped disabled i saw a man hunched down and he's doing

00:05:51.200 the amara as well unbelievable like the resolve that he must have had how old was he you know i

00:05:56.800 would say about 80 um like maybe minimum 70 up to 85 that kind of injury and he was crippled you see

00:06:03.520 that all the time people like disabled people that are in a bad position but they still manage

00:06:09.680 to do it and they still want to do it it's the motivation that puts them through it and there's

00:06:13.360 something about religious motivation that gets us to do things that we would otherwise not ever do

00:06:17.120 like i would never fast 30 days consecutively but i would not eat or drink or have intercourse or

00:06:22.400 anything like that for 30 days consecutively in a time period designated i wouldn't do that unless

00:06:28.160 there was a religious incentive and so the rich incentive is powerful let alone do that and then you

00:06:33.520 know do umrah and then you know pray all this uh we had all those kind of things it's very difficult

00:06:38.960 it's mentally draining that's something i didn't really understand before becoming muslim was that

00:06:43.440 standing there especially for 33 minutes last night just listen and he started crying the reciter was i

00:06:47.840 don't know if you saw the videos but he was getting really passionate because uh if i'm not misunderstood

00:06:52.160 that's when they're finishing the quran yeah yeah yeah yeah i was i was there actually when it was so

00:06:56.800 packed uh well i was talking about medina here oh is he doing the same thing in medina yeah oh okay

00:07:02.160 yeah we had we had today's in a very famous car a very famous guy that you know he was crying as

00:07:07.200 well he's saying khatm quran as well the same thing finishing the quran and what was powerful was that

00:07:13.120 he did actually make that for palestine uh multiple times and when he did that everyone was roaring like

00:07:19.520 i mean i mean like everyone this is in everyone's mind you know and crying and stuff like that which

00:07:24.880 shows you that the palestinian case is still in deeply entrenched in the hearts of the muslims all around the

00:07:30.080 world all around the world but i didn't understand like how draining and like having to focus there

00:07:35.040 and just like make do i think about like your family everything that you're praying for

00:07:38.800 for that long of a period of time something like you're standing and focusing could be

00:07:42.720 so mentally like afterwards after the 33 minutes like i collapsed i literally had to like lay down

00:07:47.360 on the floor but i was looking at everybody else and everybody looked fine i'm like i have a lot to

00:07:51.600 i have a lot to get accustomed to exactly because it's good bro it builds resilience it's these kinds of

00:07:58.560 experiences you push yourself mentally and um what happens is your threshold for this kind of thing

00:08:04.320 increases just like anything anything else in life progressive overload yeah it's exactly like that

00:08:09.280 i mean it's uh i kept mentioning this before in the last podcast we had but that book willpower

00:08:14.720 um when he talked about the fact that willpower can expand and stretch like a muscle so you have to

00:08:19.920 put yourself through these experiences and there's something about um you know draining yourself having

00:08:25.520 a detox you know not being always on the phone for half an hour even if you just like leave social

00:08:31.280 media for half an hour just focus on something completely else um fasting all these kind of

00:08:35.840 things is it builds character and depth in character in a way i don't think anything else can i definitely

00:08:41.200 realize and i didn't expect it going into ramadan i thought it'd be like i was thinking it from like

00:08:45.440 the la intermittent fasting like okay it'll be good to like cleanse my body like maybe i'll detox the

00:08:50.800 toxins or whatever but i think the number one takeaway because this is the last day of ramadan correct yes

00:08:55.280 yes and then eat so can i eat tomorrow it's not tomorrow you're gonna you're gonna fast tomorrow

00:09:00.000 so tomorrow's fasting last day of fasting okay they're fasting then um then after that it's

00:09:07.200 but what's powerful is you're gonna have eid here in medina you don't have eid you're gonna have eid

00:09:11.760 here you're gonna do the eid prayers here and stuff okay which is very beautiful man i thought it was

00:09:16.080 extended one day like there's a someone was saying online that eid was extended one day because

00:09:20.080 something about the moon is that true no no it's not extended it's just like because it can either be

00:09:23.920 ramadan 29 days or 30 days depending on the moon yeah depending on the sighting of the moon so they

00:09:29.520 they looked at it today to see if the moon is going to be it's going to show for eid the credit the

00:09:34.960 moon and they looked at it and it's not the case so it's going to be after tomorrow so tomorrow is the

00:09:40.160 last day of ramadan okay so effectively maghrib okay is when id will start maghrib the the last prayer

00:09:47.600 tomorrow like 5 30. officially 6 30 you know officially that's in this country but officially

00:09:53.280 that's when i will start and then i can eat you can eat and in fact it's haram not to because

00:09:59.040 the day of aids you cannot fast you're not allowed to fast on right there really yeah okay good yeah

00:10:03.680 i want to fix that but i would say the number one i was thinking of it like from the health benefits

00:10:07.200 and stuff like that like maybe i'm gonna i'll feel like a superhero afterwards i think the number

00:10:11.280 one takeaway has just been patience like that health wise i'm not really sure what the benefits were

00:10:16.320 but you know costing of every of like everything about the schedule of the patience of being around

00:10:23.280 these people of seeing the way that people are able to focus um having to like come because i'm

00:10:27.680 a very short-tempered person yes i think because uh a lot of it has to do with social media the fact

00:10:32.720 that like everything is instantaneous and so then having to wait in line when there's 30 people or being

00:10:37.520 in a country here like where if the police tell you to do something you're not going to argue with

00:10:40.880 the cops like i do in new york you're just okay this is how it is over the hotel receptionist

00:10:45.040 has taken a long time just just if we were in mecca um two weeks ago and they're taking they're

00:10:49.760 taking an hour to get me the room you're not going to complain like in the united states you might have

00:10:53.680 an argument ask for the manager have a caring moment but it's just patience okay and hopefully

00:10:59.040 actually i think that i that did help me learn a lot of that um hopefully i got some mental resilience

00:11:04.480 from there it's true but sometimes they can take it too far as well let's be honest these guys yeah

00:11:08.880 they do yeah and i've had my fair share of problems here as well i mean a lot of the issues because

00:11:13.600 everyone is frustrated everyone is hungry everyone is tired and then there's like to get food here

00:11:19.760 like i say this is medina it's hard mecca was a mission bro like to get a bug i was standing there

00:11:25.040 but i was sitting down like a like a homeless man people were coming because i i had the ticket and

00:11:29.280 i had to just wait and i just said i'm not going to wait i'm not i'm going to preserve my energy for

00:11:33.040 tarawih so i just sat down yeah you know and i think people thought i was homeless

00:11:36.960 that's what this is how it feels like you know to be to be in this position yeah

00:11:41.920 same thing too we were praying yesterday uh i think it was after fajr and i was just trying

00:11:46.400 oh no it was right before fajr it was um it's called sahur and i was drinking an orange juice and

00:11:50.240 like having a um a cookie or whatever and there was just nowhere to sit so i just sat on the street

00:11:54.560 and the cars are going by and then like sitting on the road like a homeless guy but then like the

00:11:58.720 weird dichotomy like sitting there like homeless like with the rappers everywhere and then people

00:12:02.560 asking for pictures it's like leave me alone for one second like this is not how i want to be seen

00:12:07.200 i'm hunched over like eating like a gorilla and then people want to take some how do you manage

00:12:11.200 that because it's like um he was telling me too muhammad was saying like yo you're like famous here

00:12:16.000 but like i come here to in medina to just kind of like get the peace aspect and to to focus and

00:12:21.680 i put my phone down i go to the maj to just read quran alone and then there's like oh there's always

00:12:26.560 like a lot of people how are you how do you manage that i that's that's part of the life now i'm afraid

00:12:32.000 to say i mean once you're this famous i mean even i you know i get it i get quite a lot actually

00:12:37.680 you're coming here i had to take a few pictures i don't know how many people had to stop and take

00:12:42.960 pictures of me it's it's kind of um what i would what i usually do is go to places where

00:12:48.000 that i know that my demographic are not there so i know where that is you know sometimes in the uk

00:12:54.960 i know where that is it's usually the areas which are there are some areas which like the elderly people

00:13:01.520 go to you know over the 65s certain times and stuff like that certain parks certain places

00:13:07.360 same thing with here there are some countries that are not familiar with your content

00:13:11.040 so if you know that okay these guys are staying in these hotels so i'd go to that hotel there

00:13:17.200 because and this like for example this area here i know there's a lot of people that are going to be

00:13:21.680 like english-speaking someone knocked on my hotel room door to try to get a picture yeah he woke me

00:13:26.000 like he woke up warner because he thought warner was my room that's very inconsiderate to be honest yeah

00:13:29.920 he was 15 but you know yeah but even then i mean this it's still very yeah that's very very

00:13:34.320 inconsiderate i mean i'm very surprised by that but things like that you know if you go to a place

00:13:40.080 where you know they're not there sometimes i can help but otherwise this is a bit of a is a bit of

00:13:45.280 a juxtaposition because on the one hand you're living the the hard life you know you're going back

00:13:49.840 to a humble kind of life everyone here is living that life everyone but on the other hand you you still

00:13:55.760 are a celebrity so that you have to kind of deal with both at the same time you could probably wear

00:13:58.880 a disguise i saw islam makachev was hey he had giant sunglasses and a hood yeah and a scarf yeah

00:14:04.400 the picture of medina it's like oh it makes a lot of i wouldn't recognize him i saw it the way he took

00:14:08.400 the picture with the hood and the glasses there's no way i would recognize him if he walked right by me

00:14:12.160 oh really so maybe but it's so hot it'd be hard to to do that is he did armada now i don't know i saw

00:14:18.400 a picture of him in medina two days ago oh is it you were with him no no no no with islam

00:14:23.120 islami and i met him back in las vegas but i didn't meet him here yeah i made him in shaytan

00:14:27.040 on some on twitter or something yeah i met him at a casino and he said uh get out to this place

00:14:31.520 brother like you can't be here but i was there it was uh a ufc event or something okay fine fine

00:14:37.120 but he's yeah he and khabib come here quite often yeah actually um a lot of guys i just see them and

00:14:43.360 that that's a good testament to that kind of character actually because you'd have to put on the two

00:14:47.600 everyone doesn't matter what you're making you have to put on the same two

00:14:52.080 garments that you would wear if you're actually going to die if you because if you if you're

00:14:56.400 if you're going to die in islam you have to put on these two garments the two towels the two towels

00:15:01.200 you know uh the leader and the izar and then you'd have then you'd be buried in those two garments

00:15:07.200 and so in a way hajj is a bit like a reenactment of the day of judgment because the day of judgment

00:15:12.640 everyone's going to be raised up in this way and so it doesn't matter who you are and what you're doing

00:15:18.880 you're going through the same motions you're going through the same experience there's no fast

00:15:23.120 track for this i mean i've already seen it with the very very high elites where they have like a

00:15:27.520 whole posse around them and then you know like for example royalty and so on but apart from that

00:15:32.560 even the most famous people they have to go through the same crowding and the difficulties

00:15:36.320 and all this kind of thing and i think it's good bro because at the end of the day like

00:15:40.560 we can easily become um very very entitled and that can drive us and then

00:15:49.120 when we have that level of entitlement it become can become delusional we think we're

00:15:54.240 owed things that we're not actually owed we can we can start people treating people with a bit of

00:15:59.280 disrespect we lose the humility a good character and so being in places like this it reminds us a bit

00:16:06.080 of the rough life the andrew tay experience is a good example of this because the andrew tay

00:16:11.120 experiences like look how he was living yeah very famous very rich had all this money right

00:16:16.640 everywhere he went was was well known but then he went to prison and so he had to contend with the

00:16:22.320 most difficult living after after having lived like a king effectively and it's even more difficult to

00:16:28.800 live like uh to go to prison or to live in a difficult manner after having lived like a king because

00:16:35.440 you're used to a certain level and then you're thrown into this situation so by putting yourself

00:16:39.840 in continuous difficulty if you ever have to go to prison if you ever have to go to a hospital if

00:16:44.160 you ever have to be put into a strenuous position then you've already got kind of training for that

00:16:50.320 you're already accosted you're pretty much living like a prisoner already yeah you need to have a little

00:16:53.920 bit of that in your life you know i feel like we always need that especially in the west because you

00:16:58.240 know if you think about it bro the way we're living in the west where the layman is living like the king

00:17:04.480 of yesterday a king imagine what he was what kind of service he would get he would get people come

00:17:08.240 and giving him grapes anything he wanted to get straight away all the kind of things that a king

00:17:12.880 would have so in order to really to strengthen ourselves and to give ourselves that resilience

00:17:19.360 and that actually if these positions do arise then to put ourselves in these kind of positions is very

00:17:26.720 powerful in fact that's why a lot of western people are moving to stoicism which is this philosophy

00:17:31.600 yeah it's called stoicism which basically is the idea that you're not in control of anything and

00:17:37.040 and also asceticism the idea of divorcing yourself from the world a lot of westerners like to go to

00:17:44.080 for example china or india or anywhere else and indulge in eastern meditative practices you know

00:17:50.480 meditation these kind of things research themselves intentionally yeah because they realize that over

00:17:55.120 indulgence in the living that they're used to is actually destroying them but with it that isn't once again

00:18:01.200 there's not really a an obligation for them to do that and it's not moving towards a particular

00:18:06.480 objective and and true purpose in islam there's an obligation and it's connected to a true purpose

00:18:11.840 right so everything and you cannot compare and now if anyone has been here in mecca medina

00:18:18.640 and i've done anything else in the world in any other religious practice you cannot compare the two

00:18:23.520 the seriousness the amount of people the dedication the hours the actual practice

00:18:28.640 nothing compares to the religious practice of islam if we're being honest no i haven't ever

00:18:32.640 experienced anything like this in my life yeah it's it's been brutal everyone is serious about it

00:18:37.280 dead serious whether you're a child whether you're an old person whether you're somewhere in the middle

00:18:41.600 whether you're you know able or disabled whatever it may be right everyone is serious during the prayer

00:18:46.640 yesterday i was like i was struggling i was like mentally like i got to do this i was like it was it was

00:18:51.200 it was genuinely like really hard to finish the 33 minute prayer yeah and then i saw his brother the 10 year

00:18:56.080 old reciting the quran in time uh with the reciter and he was there doing it he had to sit down for

00:19:01.120 a couple seconds but he was like he was locked in i'm like how am i having to struggle when somebody

00:19:05.920 half less than half my age is able to do this and then just remember that helped me stay back in the

00:19:10.160 mode and realize that uh and even yesterday like sitting in the maja reading quran seeing like five

00:19:14.960 year old kids reciting quran like while they're reading it like better than than i could in years and

00:19:20.800 it's it's a reminder about how seriously people take this like like you said the old men walking

00:19:25.200 around but i'm curious what what was the i mean you've done ramadan your whole life what do you

00:19:30.400 think this specifically um something that you focus on and learn the most if mine was yeah this ramadan

00:19:36.560 do you know like honestly what i what i do is i try and make dua i try i really think about

00:19:43.600 dua is supplication i try and supplicate for myself for my family for my community and this ramadan

00:19:50.640 which has been different has been a lot of the diet i've been making has been about palestine to be

00:19:54.880 honest like so much of it i would say maybe 60 to 70 percent of it genuinely because it's um it's

00:20:03.360 something in the in the hearts and minds of everyone and just seeing it i feel like it would be selfish of

00:20:07.840 me not to do that one can really see what kind of a person you are by what kind of dua you make

00:20:13.600 so if you can if you make dua for if you make supplication to allah that all you want is things in this

00:20:18.480 world then you're a worldly person right if you make that only for yourself then you're a selfish

00:20:23.440 person and if you make that for yourself and for the community and for people that are in pain

00:20:28.400 then that's the kind of person you are you're a communal person so you know i've been trying to

00:20:33.200 make more and more doubt for my family my loved ones the community in general the muslim community

00:20:38.400 i'll make a lot of that for them but in particular the palestinians and i think there's something about

00:20:43.040 this time around where palestine's been attacked which has really brought the muslims together

00:20:48.320 in a way i haven't seen before to be honest with you coming here i've been coming here a lot but

00:20:53.200 i've not seen the unity that i've seen this time around the emotion on the palestine you can tell

00:20:59.120 it's on everybody's mind oh it is it is as soon as as soon as they they mentioned the word palestine

00:21:03.920 it's like everybody knows what that means right and so yes that's what i've been focusing on this

00:21:09.600 time around but also i've been trying to focus a little bit more on my qualities like

00:21:14.320 i'm a bit of a wild card myself i'm rough around the edges i'm trying to work around like on certain

00:21:18.560 qualities so things that i want to improve on as an individual i want to become more humble

00:21:23.200 i want to become i want to remove my vanity and you know arrogance and these kind of things and

00:21:29.200 anything like that any negative thing because you know sometimes we focus on

00:21:34.640 things we can do like prayer and fasting and stuff but we don't focus as much on the virtues and that

00:21:41.040 you know that's what i'm trying to improve on that as well that's what i i would say that i had a

00:21:45.120 similar experience like in the beginning i remember i was asking you guys at hoshi dochi in london

00:21:49.920 um like is it okay to ask for worldly things and the common answer i don't know if it was you or from

00:21:55.040 warner but it was like you're supposed to ask allah for for everything because who else you can ask for

00:22:00.080 but every time i put my head to the floor and i would think about like i mean i was banned on

00:22:03.520 instagram during ramadan in mecca with abutamia during the stream and so sometimes i make do off

00:22:07.760 for that like can i have my instagram back or specific things like wealth um but it just like

00:22:12.640 while i'm making do off that it felt trivial and it's like why am i asking for these worldly things

00:22:16.800 that it it almost seemed like a sign that i wasn't supposed to be that i could ask for something

00:22:21.120 greater like instead of asking for my instagram back how about i ask for the ability to remove

00:22:26.640 that need for that in my life why do i need that like i only want that so that i can make more

00:22:31.440 money and so that i can bring people to my stream well if people want to find that i'll find another

00:22:35.360 way and you know there's always i think there's a step above a lot of the worldly things that you

00:22:39.760 ask for if you think about why you're asking for that there's something greater that that you could

00:22:43.760 look for and show gratitude for um i think that's a very mature way of thinking about things bro

00:22:49.840 honestly and and there's nothing wrong with asking for both the the instagram and and uh the

00:22:56.240 afterlife things and you know the virtuous things but it's it's a good way of of thinking about

00:23:02.320 things in fact in psychology there's there's this thing called trait neuroticism um which is it's

00:23:08.640 basically when when something goes wrong in someone's life their ability to moderate their

00:23:13.600 emotions basically that's what it is it's one of the five main emotions or five main markers that

00:23:19.200 psychologists look at when they're looking at um an individual and their makeup so trait neuroticism is one

00:23:25.920 of the of those things and um and so if if one for example let's take your instagram thing as an

00:23:32.800 example if something bad happens in someone's life a person who thinks of things in a very low

00:23:38.880 or primitive manner let's say will ask questions like why is this happening to me why me why always

00:23:44.320 me why is this the case it's a victim mindset yeah exactly the victim mindset is the most primitive

00:23:49.840 way and it's the most useless way from a psychological perspective the weakest potential way it's like

00:23:56.800 almost the infant level of dealing with the calamity in one's life and then you've got stage number two

00:24:04.160 where someone can at least evaluate and say okay well you know it's a bad thing that happened but maybe

00:24:10.400 there's some good things that come out of it and then the highest the pinnacle thing is that when bad

00:24:15.120 things happen to people they think of the best possible reason or best possible thing that how

00:24:21.520 that connects to their life so for example the instagram thing it's okay the instagram thing they

00:24:25.440 banned me on it but what does that actually mean you can start thinking of it from a dunya and deen

00:24:29.840 perspective and a manner you can frame it in a narrative which is actually favorable so you can say to yourself

00:24:35.120 well they've taken on my instagram but it's better that they've taken my my instagram at say one point

00:24:40.720 whatever a million than at five point something million because it would have been more painful

00:24:45.760 right sure okay that's one way of putting it or another thing is they've taken away my instagram

00:24:52.480 but by them taking away my instagram they've made me into a case study a historical case study

00:24:57.280 i mean they're mentioning your name in the senate for example that's a pretty significant ordeal that

00:25:01.760 makes you eligible to be spoken about and written about actually on a historical level before you were

00:25:07.760 just a youtuber and a streamer now you're a historical figure now someone can can write your

00:25:12.560 names nico and and the case where he was removed from instagram and meta in the year such and such

00:25:18.400 you can be referenced and in fact you can be referenced in a way to show how these organizations

00:25:24.800 and these major you know uh social media platforms are centering certain things which they consider to be

00:25:32.080 disfavorable to their own narrative another way you can think of it is well it's made me think of

00:25:37.360 new creative ways to spread my message it's made me focus more of my effort on just these other

00:25:44.240 platforms it's made me um think about diversifying not just my social media platform portfolio but also

00:25:52.960 diversifying my life portfolio because i realized that if it's the case that by click of a button or

00:26:00.000 decision of a decision maker someone can take me off a platform like instagram or youtube or anything else

00:26:05.440 that i shouldn't allow these people to have that much control of my happiness and therefore i need

00:26:11.760 to bring happiness from within right you know and and that's something that the stoics speak about

00:26:16.960 they call it the dichotomy of control where they say that in reality if something is not in your

00:26:23.200 control if something you've tried everything you can within the law within the parameters within what's in

00:26:29.280 your control once you've tried everything in your control and the thing still happens you would say

00:26:34.720 okay well then i've tried everything i can it's out of my control and we would say from a muslim

00:26:39.680 perspective it's qadrallah it is the will of allah that that happens and the will of allah is always good

00:26:44.560 for you like even bad things that you may think are bad for you are actually good for you in the long

00:26:50.400 run there are many things maybe that happened in your life which at the time you might have thought

00:26:54.880 were bad but when you look in hindsight okay well this happened because of this reason and this has

00:26:59.920 helped me in these ways and so uh the reason why i brought this to your attention is just to show you

00:27:05.760 that sometimes bad things can be good for you but the way you frame them in your mind is what makes

00:27:13.040 the difference between someone who thinks of things in a primitive primitive manner versus someone who's

00:27:17.440 thinking about a mature manner and but by the way you've just framed it it's clear that your ability to

00:27:23.200 look at the world in a in a perpetually optimistic way fits more into the more mature category which

00:27:29.520 is a good thing and i also realize that there's no other outlook there's no other way to view

00:27:33.680 life like there's there's no benefit in seeing it from a victim mindset exactly or having a pessimistic

00:27:38.800 view like how does that benefit you at all it doesn't the best way to go about life is to think

00:27:42.800 that everything to try to see the good in everything and then even if things are stressful and there's more

00:27:46.960 attacks from different angles the fact that that's going to harden you and you're going to be a better

00:27:50.160 person and be able to avoid that in the future it's a part of the frustration is even someone

00:27:55.280 like him he's like oh i've seen your stuff everywhere he doesn't know where i stream you

00:27:58.800 know so but that's gonna it's gonna make me um a better content creator and figure out how to

00:28:03.360 advertise myself in um in different ways and how to get the content out in a way that other content

00:28:08.160 creators don't need to think about it because they have access to the platforms but then once again

00:28:11.760 it seems so trivial because then again i've been making lots of dua for palestine as well and it's like

00:28:16.160 like the fact that i like even that's a struggle you know losing a platform when these people

00:28:21.840 obviously we know everything that's going on um it's it seems so childish really to to think that

00:28:27.760 that's any any sort of struggle and so i think everybody here has been um i i definitely can feel

00:28:34.400 the the same sentiment that everybody here has been thinking about about palestine as well um but

00:28:40.800 do you think that next year it's going to be the the same sort of attitude do you think that the

00:28:44.320 the amount of people here right now is because of what's happening in palestine is it because

00:28:48.160 it's the fastest growing religion what's the reason that there's so much energy here right now

00:28:53.680 to be honest in ramadan this place is known to bring a lot of people in ramadan it's a standard

00:28:58.400 thing because you know you've got the rewards of ramadan and then you've got the rewards of being

00:29:03.120 in one of the mosques so when you combine the rewards you have like massive rewards and people just

00:29:09.120 want to you know people just want to take those rewards and you can see it's it's a historical

00:29:14.400 thing for the last i think 10 15 20 years it's always been packed but as i say i think the energy

00:29:19.920 is different and that energy is because of palestine i think that that energy of people are now looking

00:29:26.240 making longer they are working harder i think that that has changed the game is it good what's wrong

00:29:34.000 the battery's dead okay that's fine thank you sorry yeah so i think from that angle the palestine

00:29:45.360 thing is definitely um a game changer from that perspective but it's always been crowded like

00:29:50.240 this people have always been serious and if you come and hajj which is the next level up that's in

00:29:54.880 june right it's in june yeah i have to look at the calendar it's the month of hajj in the islamic

00:30:01.200 calendar it's also synchronized with the moon yeah okay yeah yeah and so this is uh maybe yeah

00:30:07.280 june sounds about right if you if you do a hajj you'll see a different level and it's even harder

00:30:12.640 the walking is more you have to now you you'd have to go to a place called uh mina and like you're

00:30:18.800 going to be sharing a room with like 20 or 30 other men oh yeah and it's going to be difficult you

00:30:23.440 know you're going to be you have to do that um when you say you have to it's not obligation

00:30:29.040 uh it's it's not it's not a pillar of it's not a pillar of the hajj according to some of the schools

00:30:34.080 of thought but it is an obligation according to all of the schools of thought apparently effectively

00:30:40.560 but you can stay for two days which is the obligation in that place or you can stay for

00:30:45.920 longer which is more the recommended action so the quran says so if you stay in two days for two days in

00:30:56.720 that place there's no problem for you but really and truly there's differences like you can you could

00:31:01.840 do a hajj which has all the obligations inside of it like going to muzdalifah and going to

00:31:08.320 you know mina um spending time they're doing that obviously is a rockin i don't know if you have to do

00:31:13.920 you know it's just it's basically it's a small mountain that you go and uh you you make the whole

00:31:20.640 day on there but there are things like muzdalifah is very interesting because there's a rocky floor the

00:31:25.680 desert you're going to be walking in the desert and you have to sleep i mean you don't have to but

00:31:30.160 it's it's sunnah to sleep on the floor in the desert in the desert yeah effectively it's the

00:31:35.440 desert i mean there's there are there are people that have that sell coca-cola or maybe not coca

00:31:39.600 anymore but drinks and ice cream and stuff like that but it's you have you get a sleeping bag and

00:31:45.920 you'll sleep on the floor for example and people do and it's very interesting because you have a very

00:31:51.200 sweet sleep when you do that it's like it's very because you're so tired you've been walking for

00:31:56.000 such a long time now you're literally camping in the on the floor in the desert and everyone you're

00:32:02.480 next to people that are strangers someone from nigeria here someone from bangladesh over there

00:32:06.320 someone from pakistan some of egypt and you're just sleeping and you're sleeping back it's it's it's

00:32:11.040 an experience and a half um very interesting and then you get your get your head shaved off you've

00:32:16.960 done that with amra as well you do the same kind of do you have a shaved head right now yeah yeah

00:32:21.520 i have a shaved head yeah oh wow

00:32:25.280 you know it's exciting it doesn't look kind of bad you know yeah i mean it is what it is

00:32:33.840 and so i realized during ramadan how the absence of something makes you appreciate having it so much

00:32:39.280 more like the way you described the sweet sleep like getting a good night's sleep here is like a

00:32:43.840 probably equivalent to what heroin is like it's just that the the dream state that you got to be

00:32:48.320 in the appreciation you have or like even breaking fast i've never appreciated food more never

00:32:53.120 appreciated sleep more uh i think that i would recommend that to everybody watching and then also

00:32:58.960 the the the fact of um you were talking about good deeds and how you're you know it's multiplied

00:33:04.240 during that month and during this month as well as also being here um and maybe think about like

00:33:09.360 things like charity in a different way or being kind or when someone says salam alaikum replying like

00:33:14.640 greater than how they were um greeted you like with the walaikum salam with more gratitude and more

00:33:20.320 peace behind it um i haven't i didn't think that way before and and think about it like like good deeds

00:33:26.480 in terms of currency um i never really thought about zakat like um in that way and do you remember the

00:33:35.120 the charity that we were promoting back in london our project iftar yeah yeah we broke the record of

00:33:39.200 uh of 60 000 and now i think we're at a hundred thousand dollars right now for for people that's

00:33:43.760 really good for people in gaza uh someone had a question for you they're wondering uh can they do zakat

00:33:49.040 online or does it have to be does it require that you do it in person so there's two kinds of zakat

00:33:54.000 there's zakat al-mal and zakat al-fitr yeah so zakat al-mal is like 2.5 percent of your wealth

00:33:59.760 um and zakat al-fitr is effectively feeding for every member of your family that you're responsible

00:34:06.640 for somebody let's say for example the meal is worth five pounds sterling or five or six dollars

00:34:13.120 um for each person in the family you'd have to pay that classically in the books of the books of

00:34:18.720 jurisprudence they would say that you'd have to you know give them the actual material so for example

00:34:25.120 you'd have to give them dates so you'd have to give them barley or you have to give them wheat

00:34:28.880 now because it's so difficult to find people especially in the western world who are so

00:34:33.520 impoverished that you would actually have to give them dates so that they can uh they can consume

00:34:38.640 doing it online is the main fatwa that most of the scholars of islam they they follow it now or they

00:34:44.160 do it but obviously it's much better if you could find the impoverished people in your and it usually

00:34:49.440 happens before the the salat light the the prayer of aid in our case it would be let's say once once

00:34:56.640 wednesday in satellite it would be thursday or something so before the salat light that should

00:35:02.640 happen that's the cattle fed and the cattle male is 2.5 percent of your wealth um that obviously has

00:35:09.200 conditions and so on it's how much wealth you have which is not i mean for example your properties are

00:35:14.800 not included in that they're not included in that so if you have houses or property portfolio it's like

00:35:20.000 zakat evasion no not really not really because it's um it's it's not really um that's not the

00:35:26.080 wealth that we're talking about for example if you own jewelry right we're not talking about money on

00:35:31.840 the jewelry we're talking about money that if you have if you have for example a business and um the

00:35:38.320 stock that you have that's left that's left after the year has elapsed that 2.5 percent of that or let's

00:35:44.880 say you have savings in the bank uh let's say you have 20 000 or 50 000 or 100 000 in the bank you'd be

00:35:51.120 you'd have to do 2.5 percent of that so that's zakat ul mal zakat ul fitrah as i mentioned is

00:35:56.800 if it's just yourself that you're right now you're not married it would be muslim people

00:36:01.920 that you're responsible for so even if very interestingly the scholars say

00:36:05.920 for example even if you have like a wife who's pregnant

00:36:09.120 yeah uh so long as the baby is over like 120 days some say you have to pay

00:36:16.240 zakat ul fitrah for that for the baby too yeah so if children by the way are liable for that but the

00:36:22.560 father pays for it okay okay so for every child that you have in the house you pay zakat ul fitrah for

00:36:28.080 them as well this is the classic view i mean this is no controversy so zakat ul fitrah is once a year

00:36:35.360 and islam doesn't have by the way taxes taxation like there's no

00:36:43.280 in the islamic state there's no such thing as taxing 20 percent taxing they don't tax your income

00:36:48.320 there's nothing like that in islam some scholars have tried to squeeze that into the islamic

00:36:52.640 paradigm but it's not let's be frank and honest there's nothing like that in islam there's only

00:36:58.080 zakat and sadaqa sadaqa is giving charity but there's no such thing as dariba dariba is this idea of

00:37:03.840 taxation or taking 20 even in egypt i know that they have that in the uae and they have it all

00:37:08.800 over the muslim world but it's not something islamic it's something which they've taken from

00:37:12.560 the western world okay something that the government supplemented yeah okay it's not something that's

00:37:17.600 not islamic um that's not to say that i mean there's a whole discussion as to is it possible to

00:37:23.040 take money for taxes from people or not i'm not getting involved in that discussion but clearly

00:37:28.400 from the same perspective there's no such thing as taxes it's not an islamic concept whether it's

00:37:32.560 possible to put it on and it's some scholars will say no some say this is actually a kind of theft

00:37:38.400 why are you stealing from the money of the people like this one of the seven uh greatest sins in islam

00:37:42.560 is usury yes so but taxes are different not necessarily usually but it's it's the government

00:37:48.400 now taking it from the people right but in this situation um i'm saying that islam doesn't really

00:37:53.840 have a system of taxation it has only a system of zakat and sadaqa those two things i think that was

00:37:59.600 good dollar for a lot of people there they might convert just because i i know that in the right

00:38:03.120 wing you know this idea of small government that's like this is actually a point where we agree

00:38:07.840 with uh what you would call classical liberal fiscal liberals on the right i'm talking i'm not talking

00:38:12.560 about social liberals i'm talking about monetary liberals the economic liberals the ones who talk

00:38:17.200 about small government we would agree with them on that point would say like really and truly this

00:38:21.120 idea of exuberant taxes and stuff like that like especially in europe 30 40 50 this is completely

00:38:26.560 islamic i don't know if you saw there was um well i got some backlash and that by extension you got

00:38:32.320 some backlash for that that podcast we did with ali dawa and the warner for um uh there was the one

00:38:38.080 thing where i said that like a man needs to guide his woman in order to like a man helps his woman like

00:38:44.640 come closer to islam and then all the a lot of muslim feminists got upset they were saying that

00:38:51.120 like more women than men are converting to islam they don't really need to you mind grabbing some

00:38:54.960 waters for yeah thank you uh did you see any of that i i think i saw it but i didn't click on it

00:39:01.040 okay i didn't click i i just saw it i said you know this is one of those things you know

00:39:05.040 thank you thank you very much for that i appreciate that is the tea still coming

00:39:09.360 he called it in yeah okay um yeah make another call so i they they could probably see we're getting

00:39:15.760 tired but um it's good oh anyway we're getting well i was getting backlash for saying that yeah yeah

00:39:22.080 and then i explained it i had this debate with the with the brother brother adele i don't know

00:39:25.520 if you know who he is what's his name uh adele i don't know if he's there right now he's doing

00:39:30.240 something where you have to only stay in the majid for oh at the cafe yes at the cafe so he so we met

00:39:34.640 there and we spoke about it he was saying how um how important women are and that like a man is not

00:39:41.680 supposed to uh is not in charge all the time but do you remember do you remember when i said that on

00:39:45.840 the podcast like it goes man yeah i mean people make big thing out of nothing nothing because i do

00:39:51.840 remember you saying that and i i don't see it was that inflammatory to be honest i mean i'll be

00:39:57.040 honest i i was trying to decipher what you said or meant or whatever and i think ali even challenged

00:40:02.800 you on the point he did he said that more women convert than men yeah yeah so i mean it's it's not

00:40:07.760 like everyone agreed on the on the panel and everyone was like singing from the same hymn sheet and

00:40:11.840 stuff i think ali was responding and i think he was trying to maybe politely disagree with you on some

00:40:16.800 issues but for for why would someone be so sensitive as to find that inflammatory i mean there are

00:40:22.800 contexts in which your statement could be considered to be true in the sense that for example a woman

00:40:28.000 being guided by a man in islam for example a husband right that's or a father or father like for instance

00:40:35.920 the the hadith of the prophet that every shepherd is responsible for his flock and that the man is

00:40:42.160 responsible for his flock and the woman is responsible for her flock so the man is more is

00:40:46.320 more responsible than the woman because she's responsible for the woman and the children

00:40:51.600 and so there's clearly a an added responsibility that's not to say a woman cannot find guidance by

00:40:57.360 herself yeah i mean for example if she had the quran and sunnah she could it's not it's physically

00:41:02.080 impossible for her to it's logically impossible for her to find guidance for example there are stories in

00:41:07.440 the quran like mary you know she was isolated and she found guidance just through allah more so

00:41:13.760 pharaoh's wife asia okay she was pharaoh's wife okay the one who adopted moses uh yes as so they both

00:41:21.440 adopted moses i mean pharaoh himself him you know adopted moses in a sense because he was moses grew up

00:41:27.360 according to quran in pharaoh's household but asia was um was praised in the quran as a result of going

00:41:35.920 against pharaoh you see because pharaoh was against her he was and she even made dua to allah she said

00:41:47.680 that may god like save me from pharaoh and his people and save me from the oppressive people which

00:41:53.920 are pharaoh's people you know so allah praised her because despite having all the forces against her

00:42:00.640 she was able to find guidance because she she saw but then you could argue well just because she saw

00:42:06.320 moses and moses was in a sense even though he wasn't related to her a kind of role model for her

00:42:12.560 but nevertheless she was it wasn't like a father or a you know husband guiding her it was in in that

00:42:18.240 story it was uh she found guidance through allah because she saw the prophets who was in this case

00:42:24.080 moses and aaron and allah praised her for it you see the quran doesn't have this i mean if we did an

00:42:30.400 honest assessment of the quran it's not the to be fair the quran is not sensitive to the idea of

00:42:37.600 women having power do you know what i mean like for example let me give you an example right so the in

00:42:43.120 two surahs in the quran chapter number 27 and chapter number 34 surat surat naml and surat al-saba chapter 27 and

00:42:52.560 34 in both of those chapters of the quran a story is related of a woman called sabah in fact chapter 34

00:42:59.360 is named after her okay and she was a queen okay now it's really interesting because in the previous

00:43:08.000 surah in the case of uh in the first world i mentioned sabah was depicted sorry pharaoh was

00:43:17.920 depicted as a as a tyrant pharaoh okay in egypt but then sabah who was at the same time as solomon

00:43:25.200 salomon or solomon you know king solomon she's depicted as a very wise woman and she was a queen

00:43:31.760 so for example the quran here we have a woman okay in the quran who is a queen who is depicted in a very

00:43:39.920 fair-minded you know wise way she she even sought consult consultation from her in a council as to

00:43:49.680 what to do with solomon the king and who's also a prophet according to both religions actually

00:43:55.200 christianity and islam um and so for example solomon uh or solomon he he threatened

00:44:04.720 oh he threatened sabah in the story and then she didn't know how to respond so she she went to her

00:44:13.040 her her uh you know council and she asked them you know in uh in the buluka she said now in fact

00:44:21.600 firstly she said what do you what do you advise me to do so they responded and said uh we are

00:44:28.400 uh uh tell us what to do she says that truly kings and she was yani in implying solomon when they go

00:44:49.360 into a place they destroy they destroy it and they make the people who are lofty very lowly

00:44:58.400 they will do the same thing to us and she goes what i'm going to do in this story she says what

00:45:02.640 i'm going to do is i'm going to send him a hediya a gift now she said solomon a gift solomon now he's

00:45:09.520 a prophet and he's a king and sabat sends him a gift as soon as he sends her you'd think that

00:45:16.720 someone would be you know calm and this and that and she said he said uh he said are you sending me this

00:45:21.920 uh why are you sending me this he says what allah has given me is better than what you have what you're

00:45:27.200 trying to give me and then he said uh send back this letter this is what solomon said he said send

00:45:33.680 back this letter don't become arrogant on me and come that's it and if you don't we're gonna we're

00:45:41.760 going to fight you we're going to do that so so basically what happened was sabat she went to solomon

00:45:49.040 and she she was invited as a queen she looked at how they were doing she looked at his life

00:45:54.720 she saw how they were worshipping god and she became muslim so it was a happy ending for her

00:45:59.600 but she was a queen so it's not like islam as a religion or the narrative of the quran we're

00:46:04.960 triggered by women being in power or this and that because if this was the case why is the quran keep

00:46:09.440 telling us stories of women who are in power or positions of influence or positions of piety and so

00:46:15.840 on and so forth we have we have no issue of that the issue is where you think that a woman in a familial

00:46:24.240 setting okay in particular in a familial setting should have an equal say as a man because the quran

00:46:30.640 is very clear about that no yeah the quran says for example in chapter 4 verse 34 that men are

00:46:40.080 maintainers and protectors of women because of what allah has given some that he hasn't given others

00:46:45.520 you know and allah says in the same chapter

00:46:56.880 that do not wish what the other one has um for a man is a portion of what he has earned and for a

00:47:01.600 woman is a portion of what she has earned so we have this complementarity idea it's a complementarity

00:47:08.240 situation it's not a it's not a competition it's a complete it's compromise complementarity

00:47:14.880 between a man and a woman but on the point of i mean it depends on the context that's why i was

00:47:19.360 trying to understand from you what exactly we're trying to say in islam yes the man is given uh you

00:47:25.200 know rights in a familial setting he is the husband he is the father and he has the final say in these contexts

00:47:32.560 um but it could be that a woman if for example let me give you an example if a woman she's pious and

00:47:38.720 muslim right and let's say she's a daughter of a man who's not in none of those things he's not muslim

00:47:46.320 even then in a way she has to take he's relinquished his leadership because she has to take a kind of

00:47:52.000 leadership a spiritual leadership and then in the quran you're not supposed to do that it's supposed to be

00:47:56.240 that a man a muslim man can marry a jewish woman or a christian woman uh under the the idea that he's

00:48:02.560 going to convert her once they get married but on the reverse a muslim woman cannot marry a jewish man

00:48:08.240 or a christian man because he's the one who's supposed to be leading spiritually and overall the

00:48:13.120 bigger point was it's not to say that women cannot ever cannot be religious without the presence of a

00:48:17.760 man the bigger point is that men should take the responsibility and it's soon not it's in the quran

00:48:22.720 that we're the ones that are supposed to be leading especially with those ideas in the household

00:48:26.640 and ultimately it's our job to to maintain those those rules in the family absolutely yeah that's

00:48:32.480 true and i was wondering because i got a lot of backlash like you know i don't it's the month of

00:48:37.200 ramana but like people are people are getting really angry about that really really upset what

00:48:41.200 are you saying that what's the issue um i would say it was a lot of like a muslim feminists which i want

00:48:46.000 to get into that idea first like how that even works um but like the muslim feminists they were saying

00:48:50.400 like um you know calling me a grifter saying that i'm a misogynist like wishing dead like it was it

00:48:55.440 was bad it was um it was pretty bad but it seems um kind of hypocritical to me because how could you

00:49:01.840 be a muslim feminist because the ones that were really upset and were wishing harm upon me i click

00:49:06.800 on their profile and it's it's all these like feminist things like you know the cardi b a lot of the

00:49:11.040 same ideas that we see with like um feminist women in the west who are godless they kind of they

00:49:16.960 attach those ideas to islam i'm wondering how can feminism and islam coexist well i mean they can't

00:49:23.120 i mean this is the short answer because feminism if one wants to be integrous and actually take

00:49:29.120 feminism like let's say we'll talk about secondary feminism in particular um where the writings and

00:49:34.800 the movement and these kind of things if you want to take that seriously and you also want to take the

00:49:39.440 slam seriously then you can't take both seriously at the same time because if you want to take feminism

00:49:44.800 seriously especially in the sec in the 60s second wave feminism this idea of domestic drudgery was

00:49:53.200 was one of the top things that they were talking about so people like betty friedan people like simon

00:49:58.160 de bovois people uh obviously uh jermaine gray who's still alive now all of these were like you could you

00:50:06.080 could call them the mothers of feminism one thing united them which was their idea of domestic drudgery the

00:50:12.800 idea that uh in in in the domestic environment a woman should not be cleaning cooking she in fact

00:50:20.000 simon de bovois in one of her books the second sex which was seen as a seminal work in fact most

00:50:24.880 universities consider it to be the most important works of the 20th century yeah and i've got all i've

00:50:30.560 done you know courses on this and i've written books on this but the suffice it for me to say is that

00:50:36.160 she writes that the institution of motherhood itself is something to be is something that you

00:50:41.920 should try and avert but you shouldn't even try to be a mother because it's it's exploitative she

00:50:46.640 she says in fact the way she frames it is that a man is biologically oppressive to women it's just

00:50:53.520 like that my biological determinism but that you could say is an extreme position what wasn't an extreme

00:50:59.440 position in feminist works was the idea that a woman in the house setting is considered to be an

00:51:07.120 inferior and therefore should not accept that subordinate position because equality would did

00:51:12.000 would uh indicate that there shouldn't be uh differentiation in roles between men and women

00:51:18.320 this is this is the argument effectively and so if this is the argument that you want to make and you

00:51:22.800 want to be you want to be believe in these kinds of principles you want to be connected with these kinds

00:51:28.160 of principles how on earth can you believe in this but at the same time believe that the man you have

00:51:32.800 to obey him i mean if you went to any of these women in the second wave feministic movement even going

00:51:38.960 on to black feminists like bell hooks and audrey lord because in the 70s and 80s you had this kind

00:51:44.000 of black feminist movement right because they said well we actually haven't had enough representation

00:51:49.680 of black people so these women came up up until kimberly crenshaw in 1984 where she wrote a seminal work

00:51:56.640 for them because it's rubbish to be honest i've read it all myself it's called and she discussed uh

00:52:03.600 what she called intersectionality yeah so that whole tradition if you even want to call it that

00:52:09.200 well that whole corpus from the 1960s until the 1990s and beyond of feminism where we're talking about

00:52:18.160 obedience is considered to be oppression patriarchal society is considered to be wrong and by that they

00:52:23.520 mean the man being in any kind of power position over a woman a domestic drudgery an attack on the

00:52:29.440 institution of motherhood all of these points are fundamentally and diametrically opposed to the

00:52:35.520 religion of islam to the point and this is going to sound harsh where i suspect many of these muslim

00:52:41.360 feminists that the so-called muslim feminists are either apostates from the religion of islam

00:52:47.040 uh clandestine apostates so they're hiding it surreptitiously they don't actually want to because

00:52:54.400 for some reason socially they don't want to um they want to still have the label of being a muslim

00:53:00.400 but covertly you know they don't really believe because how could you read surah to nisa how could

00:53:07.360 you read for example uh verses from the quran which says that man you have to obey him for example the

00:53:13.040 verse verse 434 mentions the word obedience it's in the quran it's not just in the sunnah because

00:53:18.880 the sunnah is very clear you know you have to very clear you have to obey your husband

00:53:25.680 so it's in the quran it's in the sunnah i believe these muslim feminists they fall into two categories

00:53:30.480 either number one the past yeah apostates from the religion of islam not not true muslims clandestine

00:53:36.160 apostates of some sorts what you call zanadiq um they don't represent outside here what what we're

00:53:43.120 seeing in mecca and medina and these kinds of religious people yeah in the muslim world they

00:53:46.800 don't represent the 95 they really don't according to all the polls that have been done even by pure

00:53:52.400 research and other things they are a loud minority of minority of minority yeah yeah and i like that you

00:53:58.560 call them apostates and not like adaptive muslims because that's how you get uh right now don lemon just

00:54:03.760 got married um these gay guys in new york i married the cnn reporter yeah uh the marriage photos with

00:54:08.640 a giant crucifix right behind his head yeah right and people aren't calling them apostates of

00:54:13.200 christianity that are saying like this is like new wave there's no such thing as no way of islam

00:54:17.840 apostates and some of them are ignorant though so some of them don't realize okay you cannot have

00:54:23.040 these two beliefs at the same time well i'm saying but there's no there's not criticism from within

00:54:26.480 the christian like people generally people do not call that apostate but there's there's no you can't

00:54:31.600 adapt islam islam islam is the way it is and that's there are some things about islam that there's no

00:54:36.960 room for interpretation in there at all and these are some things so you know i wouldn't go and

00:54:42.400 pronounce an individual person to be a disbeliever because they they could still be ignorant and this

00:54:48.800 is called and it's not for lay people or anybody to go out and say okay you're a disbeliever unless they

00:54:54.640 come out and say like there's a particular woman uh her name is amina wadud actually she's she's based

00:55:02.240 in berkeley uh and then in l.a in berkeley in california yeah but she has a book and she says that when

00:55:11.440 she we mentioned chapter 4 verse 34 when she read 434 she said i had a conscientious gap and i said no

00:55:18.880 that's what she said so many people have and i'm not saying i'm one of them but i said well if you're

00:55:23.520 saying no to the quran then you're not a muslim why why are you still wearing the headscarf why are

00:55:27.760 you still you know pretending to be a muslim and 434 is obey your husband yeah it's because it says

00:55:33.760 lots of things in that verse but it's the most i would say it's the most clear verse about hierarchy

00:55:37.840 in the whole quran but you know in terms of uh men women husband and wife 434 and it's also attacked

00:55:44.320 by orientalists and feminists and stuff like that so she says no so if i'm saying you're saying no to

00:55:50.080 whom you know saying no to allah so so how does that make you a muslim then there's the question

00:55:55.600 now she could still be an ignorant person even though she spent her whole life studying islam

00:56:01.680 i don't think she is personally i don't think that her belief is compatible with islam i could consider

00:56:07.520 her to be this believer of islam i would not pray behind i would not let any woman of mine pray

00:56:13.280 behind her or something like that i know so it would not happen like that but uh so what's the

00:56:20.480 other one so it's apostate what's the second one ignorant okay there's no third there's no third

00:56:25.040 uh unfortunately there's no third category either you're an apostate or you're ignorant if you if you

00:56:31.680 want to say that okay well um it's about obedience and all these kind of things i don't agree with them

00:56:38.240 do you know i mean if someone is i would say either you're an apostate or you're ignorant there are

00:56:42.800 some things in the like for example about homosexual sex it's very clear yeah no but some some muslim

00:56:49.600 come and said you know um if this is uh okay i say it's okay it's okay for non-believers you're not

00:56:57.040 one of them now do you know what i mean yeah it's fine so because if we open the door for that the

00:57:04.880 religion of islam will become like catholicism well catholicism there are so many things in the catholic

00:57:10.400 faith that were considered to be wrong which are now considered to be true yeah now i i don't see

00:57:16.720 like for example you could say well that's because the context has changed but some of those things

00:57:20.160 are not contextual they're theological i'll give you an example right there was this whole controversy

00:57:24.320 and this is up in the time of augustine about babies that are not baptized that they will go to

00:57:28.880 hell i don't know if you've come across this no i did not know that so there were proclamations

00:57:32.480 even augustine mentioned this i mean it's a very big controversy in the catholic church

00:57:36.720 babies that are not baptized they go to hell baby for muscles i don't know baptized when you

00:57:41.520 put them in the water yeah i was baptized yeah so so some scholars i mean in the catholic faith this

00:57:47.920 was one of if not the official position and then okay recently the popes have come out of these

00:57:54.320 declarations and so on i said actually that's not the case but that's not something which is a context

00:57:59.360 related thing that's a heaven and hell so what all these babies went to hell these babies went to heaven

00:58:02.720 now yeah because the pope changes minds so who's a god pope or you go the god who's the

00:58:07.120 do you know what i mean yeah yeah so the religion of islam cannot be subject to that kind of change

00:58:12.480 it's one of the miracles and evidences for the veracity of islam that the religion of islam is

00:58:17.040 actually preserved it's preserved in text it's preserved in practice and it's preserved by the people

00:58:23.600 it's it is preserved like what you're hearing outside now is a testament to the preservation of the

00:58:28.560 religion of islam i hope they can hear it i really hope it's very yeah what you this

00:58:32.560 is a testament to the preservation of the religion of islam there is no equivalent anywhere else for

00:58:37.120 any other religion alhamdulillah yeah and so that's once you have someone like a muslim feminist thinking

00:58:42.560 that they can come and change and corrupt the religion of islam i consider that to be a disgrace

00:58:49.600 an abomination yeah she could be a kafir but once again i wouldn't i wouldn't label her as that be

00:58:53.760 careful of making that right but i mean i wouldn't personally label until i've seen and spoke and you

00:58:58.800 know and so on but it could be absolutely yeah they're very upset with me right now and i had a

00:59:04.160 back and forth with adela that was basically defending them and you know trying to get like

00:59:08.560 sympathy from um from muslim feminists uh but it was pretty ironic afterwards because i'm siding with um

00:59:14.720 i think that men should lead you know that i think women should obey their husbands and i think that like

00:59:18.560 we should be the the leaders of theology in the home um and then after we had this debate it went viral

00:59:24.160 again responding to that thank you you can bring it here and after he was getting praise from these

00:59:28.560 muslim feminists one of them tweeted oh let's not praise adele he's been accused of such and such with

00:59:34.640 the woman but don't praise him and without any evidence she just accused him of being like

00:59:40.640 they she said he was he was violent towards women thank you so much um uh how do i pay

00:59:46.240 um can i put it in the room no no no no i'll put it in the room once you yeah do you have a pen

00:59:58.560 thank you brother is that the saudi arabian one yeah very good yeah saudi coffee i like that one

01:00:03.040 brother that's the best one to be honest it's world class bro it really is i've been drinking that's all

01:00:09.520 i drink besides water here's saudi coffee thank you well basically this guy after he defended the muslim

01:00:15.840 feminist um they started accusing him saying that of nothing they just said they insinuating that he

01:00:20.960 was a great fist or something and didn't provide anything and then um some of the brothers were

01:00:25.920 messaging this girl that were putting out those accusations she had no evidence she had nothing

01:00:30.080 she and she said that we should believe women and if women say that they were hurt or they were wrong

01:00:34.400 she's inclined to immediately believe them so she's believing a random dm and then putting you have

01:00:39.040 to believe them under every circumstance believe all women that was like one of the feminist

01:00:42.560 ideology then it's i've messaged him afterwards i'm like hey i was right and he said he agreed

01:00:46.400 it's like actually maybe you were right because she she just said that i don't even know what she

01:00:49.840 was accusing him of but all the women believed it because i mean let's be honest guilty until

01:00:54.000 proven innocent women are easily manipulated you know they're very easily going to be swayed by

01:00:58.240 someone like that they can be and there's evidence of that i mean so look i mean especially

01:01:01.920 with the emotive arguments you know and especially a woman who's been through something like that and

01:01:05.840 and actually been through it right so because there's a lot of women out there that have

01:01:08.800 actually been through traumatic experiences i know it's a buzzword now and to be honest

01:01:12.960 i think that this word has been abused as well the word trauma people throw it around oh they hit their

01:01:17.920 head on the on the wall they say oh i had a traumatic experience today but um some women have been through

01:01:24.400 some very difficult things and as a result um they can sympathize with with false claims but what this

01:01:31.200 is ironically in terms of that is when the when the evidentiary bar for such a thing becomes so low

01:01:37.360 a dm that's yeah it becomes so low like you know it becomes so it basically is guilty until proven

01:01:43.600 innocent it becomes so low that actually trivializes the actual cases where someone has been

01:01:49.280 graped or hurt or sexually assaulted right because let's be honest right there are those cases okay let's

01:01:56.400 be frank there are those cases yeah like for instance if any of us we have you know i've got daughters you

01:02:03.200 know you have wife whoever if we actually witnessed someone sexually assaulting our loved ones who

01:02:11.520 are women there are some scholars like ibn hassan right one of the great andalusian scholars of the

01:02:16.240 fifth century he says that you know the the the ayat of muharaba actually apply which are the ayat of war

01:02:21.520 you can you can do whatever you want with it kill him you can you cannot imagine if you witness such a

01:02:27.360 thing that you would you yourself wouldn't have an emotional reaction so in fact i don't know of

01:02:34.320 anyone that could have more an emotional reaction to me if i were to witness something like that of

01:02:37.760 a woman being dealt with in that manner uh so but i would require some kind of evidence a dm is not

01:02:44.320 an evidence you know what i mean because that's what we run with these muscle feminists that's all

01:02:48.080 they need and all of them believed it like all the people that were uh accusing me of being

01:02:52.560 misogynist all this all them like they flipped on adele and adele was siding with them just because

01:02:57.040 of one dm that they didn't even read themselves which is because one woman said it he's gonna

01:03:00.640 fall on his sword because he's using the same if you allow this evidentiary bar for yourself

01:03:06.320 for other people then it will be used against you in the same way if this is the evidence that you

01:03:11.280 allow for other people even it's your enemy okay a dm believe a woman or this kind of thing one day a

01:03:16.320 woman can be have some kind of scorn against you and she uses the same evidentiary bar and you're

01:03:20.240 finished yeah because yeah because now you've said you you've said to the public that i accept as

01:03:28.720 a genuine evidentiary bar this level any woman that's giving me you know a dm no i don't accept

01:03:37.840 this i don't accept it so i kind of feel bad for the guy but i mean if you didn't kind of prove me

01:03:43.120 right but anyway since um you you have been really active on social media during ramadan too which is

01:03:48.640 it's not easy uh you just came back from that debate with fresh and fit and i got to say that

01:03:52.080 that was that was very entertaining i'm not going to lie and i was asking about the love speech

01:03:55.680 community before the stream like what's some questions um there was one question from a sister

01:03:59.360 she said uh did paul meet muhammad look the brother fresh um and myron i think that they are

01:04:12.320 essentially good guys very good guys yeah i think they're good some of my best friends

01:04:16.720 i think that these guys have i don't even think that they were trying to i didn't go hard on them

01:04:22.400 i didn't try to attack them or hurt them or debate them because i feel like they're coming from a place

01:04:28.320 where they want to improve men they're seeing the problem the problem where the men have been

01:04:33.200 emasculated they've been harmed by certain ideologies related to feminism the the main thing i would say

01:04:41.520 about red pill community is that they've gone into over correct mode and sometimes an over correct is

01:04:47.200 required actually because when a pendulum swings too much this way it goes the other way it goes that

01:04:51.440 way and that and they are the manifestation of the pendulum spinning the other way yeah if you keep

01:04:57.520 telling me about feminism and you don't require evidence for to prove a man is is raping a graping

01:05:03.840 another woman and you don't need this and the woman is not and the man is not respected and this and

01:05:08.160 this and that okay that's going to simmer in the minds of men in the west and the east and

01:05:13.360 everywhere else in the world and it's become resentment and it's going to become you know what

01:05:18.800 we're going to start using women in this way and do this and we're going to act like that and we

01:05:22.160 understand these methods now of these women these entitlement women these modern women and there's a lot

01:05:26.960 of truth in this this i cannot lie there is so much truth that i agree with from this from the

01:05:33.040 whole movement the reason why i brought up some issues of high value men and this and that that

01:05:39.760 was only because i was thinking about the matter in a more logical and i would say academic manner

01:05:46.000 frankly i just wanted to share my ideas on that but there are so many things that they've got right

01:05:51.280 there are many things that they got wrong there are so many things they're right they've got so much

01:05:54.640 more right than the feminists there's no doubt about that it's not right i mean there's no comparison

01:05:59.120 between them and the feminists i don't allow it but everyone gets things wrong because it's not

01:06:05.760 unless you're getting it from god there's going to be false it's going to be faulty if things and we

01:06:09.840 have to address those things like stoicism it's adopting a lot of the traits of islam without

01:06:14.080 searching for a higher purpose so you're just you're doing things for the sake of doing them but rather

01:06:18.800 than to get into heaven so yeah it is barely necessary and i've seen they're getting a lot

01:06:23.920 of backlash right now i think more than i've seen especially from the conservatives the religious

01:06:27.520 people um i think as more people are starting to embrace islam and are are getting fed up with that

01:06:33.200 i think a lot of people disagree with myron's 50 bodies idea saying that a man needs to sleep

01:06:38.400 with 50 women to understand them i think a lot of people are disagreeing with that that's something

01:06:41.760 i don't publicly disagree with him quite a bit too i understand why he thinks that but now i'm seeing

01:06:45.760 them uh get more backlash than ever and they are doing a lot of good i think that of any men's

01:06:50.480 podcast they've saved more lives than any other podcast and they deserve more respect and so we

01:06:54.800 i think we should stand by our brothers i think we should help the brothers and not push them away

01:06:58.400 because i think that these brothers have a lot of potential and my expect with my approach with

01:07:04.880 people like myron and my people are fresh and other people who i think really either secretly or

01:07:11.920 openly i haven't seen much of their content to know i actually agree with you a lot of the islamic

01:07:16.560 principles they agree with it they do especially when it comes to gender issues i think we shouldn't

01:07:20.960 be too harsh on them because you know the islamic spirit with these things and i and people even

01:07:26.880 till this day they criticize me on my public support for hundred tape for my help with him but i i've said

01:07:34.240 the same thing and i'll say it again even if a feminist becomes a muslim and she has a background like

01:07:38.320 this you welcome her i'll welcome her and i will help her even if it takes years and i believe that's

01:07:42.640 what islam is about because for example one of the recipients of zakat is an al-mu'allafati qloobu

01:07:49.920 it's mentioned in surah taubah chapter 9 verse of the quran which is there are eight recipients of

01:07:54.720 zakat one of them is people who are not muslim yeah but they they are people who the hearts are there

01:08:02.320 yeah their hearts are effectively there their hearts are can be softened by islam you give them gifts you give them

01:08:08.480 you treat them nicely the idea is in islam people that are close to islam don't push away bring them

01:08:13.120 closer even if it if you have to play the long game bring them closer and i believe looking at the way

01:08:18.880 of the seed of the prophet that's how he done it so we shouldn't be too harsh with people like mayran

01:08:23.920 yes there are some things about how he didn't defend the prophet and so on he must be spoken about

01:08:28.960 okay fine but don't push him too much because you know he could be a great person who like yourself or

01:08:34.960 like andrew tate or like anybody else comes into islam and becomes and brings so many people with

01:08:40.320 him to islam and he's already a muslim actually myron but i'm saying becomes more religious for

01:08:44.960 example so i don't think we should we should be pushing these people away i don't i really don't

01:08:49.040 think so and i think that we can tweak everyone deserves to be criticized we've been criticized and

01:08:55.280 we are right now yeah we're criticized and it's good for us i believe criticism is good it hardens you and

01:08:59.600 it makes you uh shave the edges off and make sure that you get to the the true otherwise you'd be a

01:09:04.000 narcissist you're just gonna you're gonna think i mean imagine receiving all praise and no criticism

01:09:08.560 what kind of a person would you be bro what kind of a person would i be would be a narcissist criticism

01:09:13.280 saves us bro it saves us from delusion it gives us good deeds because when people criticize us

01:09:19.520 and it's wrong for example then we're beneficiaries of that on the day of judgment it makes us stronger

01:09:25.520 you know and so everyone needs to be criticized including myron and he needs to be able to accept

01:09:30.960 criticism as well of course because i've seen some recent video of him on twitter and you know shouting

01:09:37.440 you know defending fresh i think it was and that was brotherhood that's loyalty it's loyalty is

01:09:42.480 brotherhood it's all very well and good but then you know i mean i've also had moments where you know

01:09:47.520 i regret and maybe i went too emotional stuff like that so yeah they're good clips they're great clips but

01:09:53.520 then it could be used against you because then someone's gonna say why weren't you like that when

01:09:56.320 it came to the prophet why weren't you like that came to this and that's true and then you're gonna

01:09:59.360 have to start firefighting again right so what you decide to be emotional about is something which

01:10:06.400 will be held against you you know especially i mean as i say i think that we shouldn't be too harsh on

01:10:12.480 them and they're your friends and i think we can bring them closer and one day we'll bring them here

01:10:17.280 and let them taste what we're tasting and then enjoy what we're enjoying yeah i mean i can tell that

01:10:23.520 from my point of view i could tell that the the stress of it's a stressful world the content space

01:10:28.480 especially when you're speaking up for these issues getting the amount of attacks that they

01:10:31.680 get like they got demonetized they speak about zionism so they're getting attacks from all these

01:10:35.680 angles and it's like the stress from from the world from all those attacks is like really starting to

01:10:40.800 so i want to see them like you know find some find some more peace but what's your what was your

01:10:45.840 perception of um of that fresh debate especially with christianity it's i mean basically i that was that

01:10:52.320 specific debate and it wasn't um with you and fresh but with shake with mine in the past that was what

01:10:57.920 helped bring me to islam that debate about the trinity and how three can be one it's just something

01:11:02.160 that like uh i grew up believing as a catholic but it just it never made sense and it was never

01:11:07.360 explained properly so having a muslim debate and like just literally thinking how can three be one

01:11:12.240 yeah like it literally does not make any sense and then um i liked it it was a funny argument i

01:11:18.160 watched it back i think his argument was um who created math yeah and it's like uh because he was

01:11:24.720 trying to say like man well again man technically created uh the figures to draw numbers but the idea

01:11:30.880 of math as a science it just is it's objective without a man did not create that it just is so that it was

01:11:37.280 um it was interesting to still man his position at the highest level look i think he was basically

01:11:42.880 saying can god make the impossible possible right because like for example two plus two equals four

01:11:48.480 is it can can two plus two equals three or five no it's impossible but can god do that and what

01:11:54.720 we're saying is that i think he said it himself and i said can god uh create a rock so heavy that he

01:11:59.760 can't lift and he said the question doesn't make sense so i was trying to make him understand what

01:12:05.280 do you mean by the question doesn't make sense because the idea of a rock so heavy that god

01:12:09.680 can't lift is unintelligible it doesn't make sense it's an impossibility so it doesn't exist

01:12:14.880 and so he's trying to say like oh that means god's limited but well in fact like the fact that god uh

01:12:19.840 i think he was trying to say um can god die and you're like no god can't die so god's limited well

01:12:25.200 in fact the fact that god can't die makes him more unlimited yeah right that's a limit death is a

01:12:29.760 limitation the thing is in logic there's a there's a whole category of things called

01:12:34.560 impossibilities yeah like for example squared circle a squared circle cannot exist in the real

01:12:41.200 world you can't even think about it i mean it's not something which exists there are two opposite

01:12:46.560 things and they fulfill the criterion for contradiction yeah now because they don't exist we cannot speak

01:12:55.360 about anyone creating them because they don't exist it's a impossible entity doesn't exist and it can't

01:13:02.720 exist so the idea of two plus two equals five it's not just that it doesn't exist it can't exist and

01:13:09.040 god the idea of god can god make two plus equals five is equivalent to can god make a rock so heavy

01:13:15.520 that he can't lift it's equivalent to can god cease to exist can god kill himself let's go further can god

01:13:20.560 lie can god rape can god steal we would say these are all impossibilities it doesn't make sense for

01:13:28.560 example the idea of god can god steal how can god steal anything when he owns everything the idea

01:13:33.920 makes nothing so it's not limitations it's just not it's an impossibility these are impossibilities

01:13:38.080 yeah these are impossibilities so i understand what look someone can attack him and say look he's so

01:13:43.520 low iq he doesn't understand that mathematics is something which was discovered rather than but

01:13:49.040 i think i know what he was trying to say and it's not such a low iq statement

01:13:54.000 uh he's trying to say well maybe god can make the impossible possible but we're saying that if

01:13:59.680 you let that happen i mean aristotle for example aristotle was a very famous logician before christ he

01:14:06.240 wrote a book called the metaphysics and in that book he said that basically if you

01:14:13.440 if you don't have the law of non-contradiction anything can happen there's no such you cannot

01:14:18.240 even have a discussion like for example the statement that he said which is that can god

01:14:24.880 make two plus two equals five whatever it may be or god can do it for god is possible that statement

01:14:31.280 itself is susceptible to self-refutation because there's no requirement for it to be coherent

01:14:40.560 in a world where it's possible for contradictions to exist

01:14:42.960 so it's a self-refuting point so the moment you get rid of the law of non-contradiction you can't

01:14:49.840 even have a discussion with anybody about anything because truth doesn't need to be coherent if it's

01:14:54.960 possible if it's in any possible world the case that truth doesn't need to be coherent and the law of

01:15:02.080 non-contradiction can apply or two plus two equals five or whatever other impossible thing can happen

01:15:06.320 then you don't there's no more a requirement for us to be coherent or cogent or make proper sense

01:15:12.640 nonsense can make is as good as common sense in that paradigm but that is

01:15:19.440 the kind of thing christians have to resort to in order to make sense of the trinity

01:15:25.600 but uh as i said i think fresh if you if you just you know opens his heart to islam he might come

01:15:30.720 muslim as well i don't know if he's a huge figure in uh the social media world he is is he yeah he's

01:15:37.520 very so he would be a great person for us to have as well the young people follow him and stuff like

01:15:41.760 that he's a fantastic guy do we have some more questions some of them are silly um uh parham says

01:15:47.760 would muhammad ajab prefer to fight 100 chicken-sized ben shapiro's or one elephant-sized rabbi shmuley

01:15:54.000 one uh slowly because the elephant i can run away from i can run around right right those hundred

01:16:00.960 chickens are gonna kill me they're too fast right now the elephant is fast as well but i just have

01:16:07.200 to avoid one and you can crawl underneath yeah yeah i'd rather go for the elephant it's one target

01:16:13.120 that was a quick answer it seems like you thought about that before you can do a second navigate the

01:16:17.040 more i can't second a hundred uh thing well 10 of them could kill me dgm says if i get a girl pregnant

01:16:22.320 from zena do i have to look after the baby the answer is yes right there's no abortion is um

01:16:27.280 as a major son the question is if i get a girl pregnant from zena do i have to look after so

01:16:32.800 scholars of islam would not attribute this baby to him really yeah they wouldn't now that's what

01:16:40.960 scholars of islam would say like from a lineage perspective because kids that are born outside of

01:16:46.800 the marital confines are not attributed to the father so were they attributed to satan to

01:16:52.160 the mother oh so she because she's committed that act according to islam she doesn't need to pay

01:16:58.640 nothing wait so really yeah yeah so we're good what do you mean like man i i'm i can go commit zina

01:17:08.560 i'm out of here but but having said that because of new age biological realities like if he knows for

01:17:15.120 sure this is my child yeah he might either want to marry that woman and sanctify the situation and

01:17:21.920 raise a child well i think it would be right for him to at least do that but if you talk about

01:17:27.840 technically what scholars of islam would say they would uh they would say there's no relation

01:17:31.760 i wouldn't care about it so you can so you're good but zina obviously is a major sin so you should

01:17:37.200 never do that anyway and well you wouldn't want to like personally i wouldn't want another man raising

01:17:41.200 my child do you know what i mean so uh dj mol says can i listen to music in jana

01:17:49.840 uh the kinds of the yeah what kind of music is this is for example if we have to define what music is

01:17:56.000 like what most of the scholars that say music is haram now there's a different opinion about that

01:18:00.080 the majority of scholars say music is haram right based on the view that there's a hadith which

01:18:05.520 is says in bukhari there are four things that people will make halal what is haram and one of

01:18:14.960 them is music so majority of scholars of islam vast majority they say that means that music is

01:18:22.320 haram although there are notable exceptions for example ibn hazm huge scholar he says it's halal and

01:18:26.960 he says that hadith is a huge scholar he has a whole book in saying it's music is not haram

01:18:36.800 a shaukani he has a whole book saying it's not haram uh some scholars from the shafi school say it's

01:18:41.760 not haram uh the music they're talking about is just any musical instrument but the majority of scholars

01:18:47.200 say it's haram there were some scholars from the early generation who actually said that who believed that

01:18:51.360 music was halal interestingly like even major sean and so on interesting but uh there are three uh

01:18:59.040 opinions about music so nasheeds and so on the voice if it's with the voice uh most scholars allow that

01:19:06.400 because there's nothing wrong with the human voice if we're talking about the uh the musical instruments

01:19:13.120 and the bonjo and the guitar and all that kind of stuff and most scholars uh disallow that although

01:19:19.760 the the shafi school some allow some instruments and some don't allow some instruments uh so on your

01:19:25.760 question there may be some instruments and some music in jannah which are which are permissible and

01:19:35.040 allowed and which sound better than anything you've heard in dunya in the same way as there's like for

01:19:40.240 example there's wine in jannah but that doesn't correct have all of the negative effects so it's

01:19:45.520 not going to make you a drunkard yeah but you'll enjoy the taste yes okay um people are also asking

01:19:51.920 i i'm curious about this one because within my community i have a lot of christians the question

01:19:55.840 is should muslims and christians put their differences aside and just focus on the greater

01:20:00.320 enemy which is satan shaitan it depends on the issue at hand so we wouldn't pray together because we

01:20:07.920 have different ways of praying and we also have different people that we pray to i mean we pray

01:20:11.920 to one god they pray to three uh i mean effectively that's what's happening so we wouldn't okay we'll

01:20:17.040 say you praying to three god is worse than praying it's the same as praying to the demons or pray to

01:20:20.480 the devil himself because it's it's kind of this one policy for another policy right i mean praying

01:20:26.400 to muhammad is or praying to muhammad sallam the prophet or praying to jesus or praying to the devil

01:20:31.920 all of that we would consider to be paganism right so but also says in the quran to not debate with

01:20:38.000 the jews and the christians i i read that for the first time but it says actually so it says do not

01:20:45.200 debate with the jews or christians except with the way which is better okay

01:20:50.800 this is chapter 29 of the quran except for those who have oppressed among them

01:20:55.040 so yeah those who are oppressed we don't even debate them you know we don't need to debate them so there

01:21:00.800 are some issues which we can come we can combine efforts with christians yes like the lgbtq issue

01:21:07.760 feminist issue other issues the the woke issue many issues uh the palestine issue

01:21:14.160 other injustices that are happening in the world whether it be in south sudan whether it be in

01:21:19.040 sudan in general and now because we're seeing it happening in sudan whether it be in congo

01:21:24.480 whether it be in any part of the world where there's work that needs to be done muslims and christians

01:21:29.120 should come together and work together and put their differences aside for those projects but

01:21:34.000 when it comes to worship and stuff like that obviously we have our separate institutions

01:21:38.640 what about um free speech absolutism this is something that i agree with myron about

01:21:42.400 um and i understand it i want to ask you about this being a free speech absolutist is an anti-islamic

01:21:48.880 position because there's some there you have to draw the line when it disrespects or when it um

01:21:54.240 goes into polytheism and stuff like that but when it comes to curating my community and curating my

01:21:59.040 stream i do believe in free speech the same way that people make fun of like they make fun of hindus

01:22:03.600 and pajits they say all the time um so i think if you're if all day long we're going to make fun of

01:22:08.880 zionists and and pajits hindus then people should be able to make fun of um from of everybody is free

01:22:14.960 speech absolutism um is that an anti-islamic position should i not allow everything should i like

01:22:19.840 tell the mods to be specific see what you what one can say is this one can say that in western

01:22:28.560 governments okay that we're not making a political case for or against free speech the way you guys do

01:22:36.400 it yeah i'm i have an agnostic position towards free speech for against the way you guys do it

01:22:43.520 why why would i say it like that the way the way i would say it like that is because

01:22:47.360 of the same reason that you've just mentioned if for example uh it benefits muslim communities to

01:22:54.800 have certain laws about free speech and removing those laws could affect the dawah could affect

01:23:00.800 certain things the question about the detriment and the costs are questions that scholars of islam

01:23:06.480 would have to discuss now in islamic lands islamic lands is different we're talking about islamic

01:23:12.960 law of course we don't believe in this we don't believe in that it's okay to attack jesus that's

01:23:18.320 okay to attack muhammad sallam attacked any of the prophets uh that anybody does it because someone

01:23:25.120 could say well you have free speech to say whatever you like yeah which means you can mock the prophets

01:23:30.720 we say fine then uh why why stop at uh free speech to mock the prophets and not free speech to break the

01:23:38.080 law so for example you can you can mock the prophets we want these other guys who are the terrorists who

01:23:43.920 we also disavow they want to break the law so just as much as i have an agnostic position about this you

01:23:51.280 have to worry about those terrorists who are going to attack you if you do this because it's not just

01:23:56.240 and this is it's no islamic exceptionalism here there are certain things that if you say if you go too far

01:24:01.440 in saying violence with any community it can lead to violence now if you go to mexico if you go to

01:24:06.960 colombia if you go to harlem and new york if you go to anywhere and you say certain things against

01:24:12.160 certain races and cartels and people certain gangs and mafias certain religious figures there's going

01:24:18.080 to be a response okay now no one is saying you can't say what you want you can say what you like if

01:24:23.600 you go to those places if you go to middle of harlem like in diehard three and have a sign that says i

01:24:30.080 hate niggers you can do that all you like free speech now but someone can say you know what i've

01:24:36.000 i'm very offended by this i'm going to decide to shoot this guy black person says this offends me

01:24:41.280 and a lot of black people and a lot of feminists those woke people would defend that and say that

01:24:44.880 that's no problem so i'm saying to shoot him uh he's going to shoot him now so you don't just have to

01:24:51.600 fear the law when you're when you're saying what you want to say you have to fear the people

01:24:55.840 so so much as because what is an extension of free speech absolutism is free it is anarchy actually

01:25:05.120 because if you think about the political spectrum right

01:25:09.840 free speech absolutism is on the way to a kind of anarchical system at least on a social level okay

01:25:17.680 if you if you think about objectively because the the government is deciding not to get involved in

01:25:22.800 what people say okay so what's one step further than that one step further than that is to say

01:25:28.080 well the government shouldn't get involved actions do either so that's physicality so if you want to

01:25:33.760 take a more radical position than free speech absolutism then you should allow vigilantism actually

01:25:39.840 but whether or not you allow it the vigilantes won't care do you know what i mean so

01:25:45.600 the terroristic position which is something which we must say on the stream we completely

01:25:50.560 survive it and we we are against it or the terroristic or the gang position or let's call it the

01:25:57.760 belligerent position or whatever it is which is that if these people's people my race my country my

01:26:02.400 religion whatever that's the position that will respond to violence and even more than violence it will

01:26:08.080 be something which would that position is an extension actually of the free speech absolutism position

01:26:13.360 it's extension of it it's actually more in the it's more in the side of freedom

01:26:19.840 and so if someone wanted to push the envelope why stop there vigilantism okay you want to offend him

01:26:26.400 with your words he wants to offend you with his violence it's an extension so i say look i'm not

01:26:34.960 against it i'm not making a legal case i don't care what the americans do with their law

01:26:38.640 mm-hmm with all due respect who am i who am i to go and tell the americans to put this law into

01:26:43.920 places and what effect will my protestation have on whether the americans decide to put this law or

01:26:50.800 the europeans decide to put what about in the uk i see some criticism more from i would say the christian

01:26:56.320 whites in the uk the the fact that islam is growing so fast uh in the uk and i even saw some statistic

01:27:02.320 i say like 30 i'm not sure if it's real saying like 32 percent of uk muslims want sharia law and they're

01:27:08.320 getting afraid like uk is losing its soul you know they were uk culture is drinking a pint on the

01:27:13.840 corner and watching the football match and then beating up a manchester city fan that's uk culture

01:27:18.720 is getting drunk with the lads going out and then you know may that's in islamic culture does not

01:27:25.840 really coexist with that idea of um yes that's more of a conservative position actually if you think

01:27:31.520 about it because if and when i say conservative position i'm talking about british conservatism

01:27:36.480 because british concert like which was promulgated by someone like edmund burke there's a guy called

01:27:40.960 edmund burke in the 80s 1800s 1900s people like him these conservatives they basically want to hold

01:27:48.320 on to tradition okay so the question is at what point do we start the clock because let's say for example

01:27:54.480 i i as a let's say aristocrat englishman want to start the clock in the year 1650

01:28:01.920 uh where it was where shakespeare's works were fresh where you know i don't know you know jamesian

01:28:09.120 you know the king james version has just come of the bible just come out and i want to use that

01:28:12.480 language someone says no we want to push it a little further to the 1800s we want to bring those

01:28:16.640 traditions and cultures back someone pushes it for the less 1950s right before the sexual revolution

01:28:21.440 before the feminist who gets to decide to start the clock when and where and

01:28:25.440 and and how but what i find contradictory is that the same right-wing people who attack

01:28:32.640 um people who attack uh who who are let's say free speech absolutists yeah

01:28:38.960 who who in a sense are arguing for a liberal position when it comes to free speech that they

01:28:45.280 also want a conservative reality so because look think about it if you if you want if you want a

01:28:50.080 society of 80 million people well let's say 70 million people right in britain you want a society

01:28:56.320 to have free speech that's the right-wing position you're speaking about free speech now we see in

01:29:00.640 most of the outlets gb news talk tv somewhere yeah we do see they're speaking about free speech all the

01:29:06.560 time yeah so if that's what you want you want free speech but at the same time you're telling us

01:29:14.640 that society is being corrupted by freedom of expression and speech isn't that contradiction

01:29:20.640 right well i mean they're saying it freedom of speech but also the invasion of like they call it the

01:29:27.440 don't don't say freedom of speech they select the freedom so you say i want white freedom of

01:29:30.880 speech then i don't like black because they're attacking the carnival like you know the jamaicans have

01:29:35.040 this thing in the carnival yeah and it has to be attacked actually because some of the things

01:29:38.400 they do it's disgusting yeah that's the part where people are like don't make fun of culture

01:29:41.840 like don't disrespect jamaican culture if their country culture is like getting naked and humping

01:29:46.240 each other in the streets and that's that's only recent by the way i don't know maybe i used to watch

01:29:50.880 this uh the carnival maybe about 15 years ago wasn't like that only recently the gangs have

01:29:55.520 started to come out these guys they're making a mockery of it i think carnival like when my dad was

01:30:00.080 growing up uh haiti um has a similar one it wasn't the way it is now yes exactly you see all the

01:30:04.400 streamers are going there to jamaica they're they're pretty much just like almost having sex

01:30:07.840 in the street it's disgusting you know and and then if you ever criticize it like this is jamaican

01:30:11.840 culture i mean shouldn't you like we should i mean if there were cannibals in a certain culture

01:30:16.240 we would say hey maybe you should not be eating each other this is your culture is wrong of cannibalism

01:30:20.800 i personally love jamaican culture i like the food i like everything bumbakla yeah well bumbakla do

01:30:24.880 not yeah you know it is you don't you don't eat a bia can done no yeah you don't know but whilst we

01:30:31.040 all are affected in england by jamaican culture but as i say if this if this you want to that's

01:30:36.880 actually a besmirchment of uh jamaican culture i think this is a carnival that recently what i've

01:30:40.720 seen because i it's like a parody i live it i live in the area where the kind of what kind of

01:30:44.000 what happens i see people coming out with knife and this and that bro like you know don't tell

01:30:47.120 me this is jamaican culture because now you're besmirching uh the jamaican culture but what i'm

01:30:51.760 saying is uh the point i'm making is uh you know if you want free speech and expression if that's what

01:30:58.160 you're calling for yeah okay don't complain about the results of that if the results of that are

01:31:03.840 muslim people coming into the country people converting to islam then that is the results

01:31:07.680 of what you call for you can't have that and not have that at the same time and people get really

01:31:11.760 upset like you see the videos of one umma uh getting like white kids to take shahada like that

01:31:16.480 really makes them upset and i don't even think it's like a religious issue i think it's a racial issue

01:31:20.960 the fact that they're seeing like brown people convert their white people and then you see

01:31:24.080 the comments deport deport yeah what a british citizen so next who's going to be deported you

01:31:29.280 because you're going to set a precedent for brown people to be deported then you're going to have

01:31:32.800 something which goes against the state and then you're next yeah i i didn't i didn't realize how

01:31:37.360 strong um islam i don't like that word islamophobia because it sounds like homophobia or transphobia

01:31:42.160 but i didn't realize how stigmatized that was i was from the perception that people saw the um

01:31:47.440 the good in islam it's like what's the alternative you know it seems like everything that muslims stand for

01:31:53.440 is all the principles of islam are really good for society so the fact that it gets these people

01:31:58.640 that upset it's not a it's not a moral issue it's a it's a racial one they don't like to see there

01:32:04.240 but you have to you know there's you have to empathize with them a little bit you know growing

01:32:08.880 up with the james bond and wayne rooney's dominating and then now seeing it changed the way it is it's got

01:32:14.640 to hurt it does go ahead but you know at the end of the day you know you you wanted to take this much

01:32:21.760 money from the rest of the world through colonialism now you've called these guys back over to help fix

01:32:28.320 your country after the 1950s and 60s they fixed your country we're going to tell them to go get out

01:32:34.000 this is i mean this is exactly what happened right you had world war one and two um why are these

01:32:40.000 pakistanis and these mongolies and these jamaicans what are they doing in england they're doing there

01:32:45.120 because the english people wanted them in there to fix their country so now that they've done that you

01:32:49.120 can't complain about the results of this they're here they're here what are you going to do with

01:32:54.000 them it's a reality unless you want to become a fascist state like you want to become like hitler

01:33:00.160 and of nazi germany and say look we only allow this race here you and we're gonna we have a muslim

01:33:05.280 problem we're going to get rid of them unless you want to go down that route which you can't say you

01:33:09.280 believe in that and freedom of expression at the same time because that is against freedom of expression

01:33:13.760 what was do you know what hitler's position was on islam um i don't know i've heard some people say

01:33:19.360 recently that they that hitler respected islam but i'm not sure i don't i don't know i mean there's a

01:33:24.240 lot of misinformation i personally believe that if muslims lived in his state they'd probably he'd

01:33:27.600 probably do the same thing with them you know there were no there were no like muslim significant

01:33:33.680 muslim population in germany at the time most people talk about that uh they talk about the mufti

01:33:40.080 and hitler and that little meeting they had and they're trying to say that they connect it with

01:33:45.440 the fact that okay well you know how could he be with the mufti of palestine at the time i mean

01:33:51.840 he also met with the orgon or at least he done the nazi party had connections with the then jewish

01:34:01.120 parties who would make up the state of israel like the other one for example and they both

01:34:07.840 collaborated on getting the jews out of germany because they both have a common objective and

01:34:12.160 that's mentioned in peer-reviewed journals so if you say okay well hitler had this connection with

01:34:17.840 the mufti of jerusalem he also had it the nazi party also had a connection with the jewish parties

01:34:22.800 as well they did yeah so you know i don't know exactly what his position was on islam but it wouldn't

01:34:29.840 matter because he had his own thing and he believed in the aryan race he believed that the white man was

01:34:34.720 best he believed is that true yeah of course he did yeah i never saw a speech where he was talking

01:34:39.200 about that eugenics and stuff it was mostly about like nationalism in germany stuff like that i didn't

01:34:44.960 see i couldn't find like like speeches i couldn't find solid information about the about whites being

01:34:49.760 the supreme race i think there is i think because they had eugenics programs and stuff though the blue

01:34:54.880 eyes and the white skin and stuff like that there's they did have there's a lot of that well speaking

01:35:00.400 about hitler um where do you think the the future of this this israeli palestine issue where is that

01:35:06.000 going to go i got some some heat but i was i saw that they attacked the um the iran consulate in

01:35:11.200 syria i i said um i tweeted we stand with iran and a lot of people got really upset i got calls from

01:35:16.880 people like americans saying like oh like don't say this you're in saudi arabia or americans saying

01:35:21.120 like oh iran's the enemy all this stuff i was just you know the fact that they got bombed by by the idf

01:35:25.680 um and the consulate in syria but where do you think that this is going and and how does this

01:35:30.720 i didn't get to ask you this like too extensively in london but how does this relate to the end times

01:35:35.120 that's something that um the love speech community is always talking about is the the coming of the

01:35:39.280 dajal and you know the red heifer stuff like this where do you foresee the the future of the israeli

01:35:44.880 conflict some people are saying that iran is gonna is gonna fight them now um i don't think they will

01:35:50.960 i i think iran is quite strategically um cautious actually they've got two or three pawns they've got

01:35:58.480 the hezbollah they've got the houthis and they've also got other you know in a way they're connected

01:36:05.600 with hamas in a way so i don't think it would make sense for iran to risk being invaded by the united

01:36:12.480 states of america by striking israel if they did that it would be unprecedented in their cautious

01:36:18.800 strategic decision making in the last 20 or 30 years they have never done anything like that

01:36:24.240 and they i and because that gives america all the legitimacy in the world to go and attack iran

01:36:30.160 right so i don't think they're that silly unless they had the backing of china and and all russia

01:36:36.240 like the explicit packed backing of them so i don't think i think this is just um

01:36:41.360 um i think this is just pr pr pr for who for them i think the whole season the and the iranians have

01:36:50.320 have really shot up in public and popularity recently in the muslim world so their fiery

01:36:56.240 speeches and their attacks and their threats even though they're shia yeah there have been times in the

01:37:02.160 in the history of like the middle east where the hezbollah and the iranians and the houthis have have

01:37:10.000 shot up in popularity and this is one of those times especially hamas came up recently and them

01:37:16.240 in the islamic jihad which is number two uh kind of faction in uh in in palestine both of which who

01:37:23.840 explicitly praised iran for what for for their stance uh you know on the issue of palestine

01:37:31.360 they they they they praised iran they praised yemen and they praised um hezbollah they so this is a

01:37:41.440 sunday group hamas praising three different i know hezbollah is comprised of shia and is yemen

01:37:45.520 comprised of shia too yeah but it's a different kind of shia this the yemeni ones are the we call

01:37:49.360 zaydi shiais which are much closer to sunnis so people are also asking this question like what's the

01:37:54.560 um like why are so many shia why seem like shias are backing palestine more than any sunni nations

01:38:00.640 or any sunni factions i think political reasons i mean don't forget what's happened in the last 20 or

01:38:06.000 30 years is unprecedented it's it's um it's to do with how america has played the game

01:38:14.880 and how they've allied with certain muslim countries including the one they're in right now yeah

01:38:20.880 so i think that that is probably uh the reason and so after the the islamic revolution

01:38:30.080 in 1979 in iran iran became much more alienated in the you know in the middle east so they've had to

01:38:38.800 they've had to strategically kind of um depend or let's say depend on on china and russia in a much more

01:38:48.160 more so china in a much stronger way than the west what was the that i remember reading a book

01:38:53.280 about that but i can't remember now so it was it like it was a clash with liberalism in iran

01:38:57.920 in 1979 what was that revolution so this was what you had before you had the person called the shah

01:39:04.720 and um this was a western puppet you know at the time in iran he was disposed actually he ran he

01:39:11.520 he exiled to egypt yeah you know he ran and hid there and um at the time khomeini who was this

01:39:20.640 figure of the shiis he was in his of all places france and he went from france came back to iran

01:39:29.760 and he led this revolution and it was they've created this system now where uh it's a parliamentary

01:39:36.800 system but it has at the top of it this you know the religious figure before it was called khomeini

01:39:42.400 now the guy's called khameini you know and um they've also they've also got a prime minister so

01:39:48.960 before it's ahmad i forget the name of the guy now ahmad was the famous guy who said that you know

01:39:55.200 we want to erase israel from the map and so on um and it's very interesting because

01:40:04.080 iran is a country which for the last 20 to 30 years have had the most apostates from islam

01:40:09.200 than any other country in the world why is that and i think part of the reason why that is the case

01:40:14.400 is because of the government because they were seen and whether this is true or not this is a

01:40:20.240 discussion separate discussion but i think that they were seen by their population by large

01:40:25.120 swathes of the population as very repressive very like overly claustrophobic level repressive

01:40:33.280 and i think that that made people rebel in their mind psychological rebellion

01:40:39.440 uh to a point we've never seen that before so i mean the the they've had a war with iraq iran had a

01:40:47.680 war in the 80s with iraq but in terms of combat like one-on-one combat uh with any other nation

01:40:55.840 iran really hasn't they've used their pawns they've used hezbollah they've used

01:41:00.320 the uh the houthis they've used other people but they have not necessarily engaged in the last 10 15

01:41:05.200 years themselves directly in any conflict and they've been quite cautious strategically so i don't think

01:41:09.840 unless they have a dramatic change but for them to have a dramatic change they'd have to be some real

01:41:15.280 thing that they're going to win from this and i don't think they'd be willing to risk this just for

01:41:19.680 a pr victory so um iran will speak that they will talk the talk but i don't think they'll walk the walk

01:41:27.040 so the hype is not justified i don't think so i don't think iran will do it hezbollah could do

01:41:32.080 because they're just literally on the borders and but they'll also be cautious and they have been cautious

01:41:37.440 so they'll do certain things but they won't go too far they'll play

01:41:41.120 a cautious game they realize the enemy is quite strong and the enemy realizes they're quite strong so

01:41:47.680 it's a stalemate at the moment they'll do like skirmishes i don't think they want to go further

01:41:51.040 than that but it's more than anyone else is doing so you think in order for iran to really do something

01:41:57.760 it's going to result in world war three pretty much because china is going to need to get involved

01:42:01.360 i don't think so because i don't think china would get involved i don't think they'll protect them

01:42:06.080 i don't think they'll protect them why because what they got to what they got to gain from that

01:42:09.920 and china and china is not the country that would make the big difference because china needs america

01:42:16.000 they're an interdependent economic relationship with them so i don't think they'd be willing to

01:42:21.200 you know risk that for just sacrifice that for this no i don't think so it would be russia that would

01:42:26.480 be the key player i think but i don't think they'd get involved either but russia is has got a lot more

01:42:33.440 to gain because they're in war with ukraine and stuff like that from weakening the west

01:42:39.440 um but i just don't see i don't i don't see i don't see it being in the interest of anyone

01:42:46.400 to expand the war to a regional conflict and i think america knows that

01:42:54.000 yeah and what about the what about the end times is there any what do you know about the red heifer

01:42:59.200 stuff like that because people they yeah so the red heifer thing i mean that is it's legitimate in

01:43:05.920 the sense that okay this is some verses in the book of numbers and these guys actually believe in it

01:43:12.800 the jews actually believe that or some jews the red cow by the way the red cows that they've

01:43:17.200 gotten from texas and they've flown over for 500 000 and uh they're going to slaughter them

01:43:22.400 um tomorrow after tomorrow i don't know three or four days coming up yeah yeah and uh the temple

01:43:28.880 institute you know the uh in israel they're saying once that ceremony has been done they want to

01:43:35.280 replace masjid al-aqsa with their own temple the second temple of solomon um and i was reading in the

01:43:42.560 quran or masjid al-aqsa is actually really is more significant than i thought it's one of the

01:43:46.800 uh this is the top three yes yeah very significant now if masjid al-aqsa this is a real question now

01:43:54.720 if masjid al-aqsa is attacked and destroyed responsibility uh or attacked by the israelis

01:44:03.920 would that create global upro uprising throughout the muslim world i think in some countries it may do

01:44:11.280 could create rebellion which countries jordan because half of the um population is palestinian

01:44:17.840 what about lebanon possibly they're there i would say the high alert countries

01:44:24.400 uh jordan lebanon i don't think it would do so as as bad as it may sound i don't think it would do so

01:44:29.040 in egypt uh i don't i don't think it i think that now we're talking iran hezbollah and all those guys

01:44:38.000 there's about four or five countries that could end up deciding to go pretty hard on on israel if

01:44:44.720 they do that but not egypt why i don't think this is the the size of the population your country i

01:44:52.560 forgot yeah yeah i think that because a lot of the the worry is that if egypt gets involved in a conflict

01:44:58.240 with israel that the so many people will die like if we're saying 30 000 people is a lot

01:45:07.520 you just got 110 million people so people are going to say well that even the population i think a lot

01:45:12.960 of them will think is it worth it i think even the population will think that wow but i think a

01:45:19.760 huge chunk of the population will say it is worth it so that you'd have a an issue on your hands

01:45:25.680 throughout the whole muslim world if it depends on what they do with it if they desecrate it that's

01:45:30.560 one thing if they destroy it and try and put the temple on top of it i think in many ways that could

01:45:35.760 be the catalyst for something massive to happen in the muslim world massive like a complete change

01:45:41.360 and then america will no longer be in control because america wouldn't want that to happen because

01:45:47.360 right now they've got the con the situation under control to a certain extent if something like that

01:45:52.480 happens it creates a new impetus a new catalyst so i it's it's a really it's a toss-up it depends on

01:46:01.680 what kind of images we see i don't know i really i think that

SNEAKO - April 08, 2024

FINAL DAY OF RAMADAN - SNEAKO X MOHAMMED HIJAB

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