SNEAKO - August 22, 2024GRILLING WITH SNEAKO & CHIAN PT.2
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 13 minutes
Words per Minute
206.09895
Summary
Cheyenne Reynolds is the host of the hit TV show, Cheyenne's Grilling. She's known for grilling famous people, famous people and rappers, alpha males, and she comes from a feminist perspective. In this episode, she grills one of her old friends and former co-worker, Gwyneth Paltrow, about her life and what it's like being a woman in the entertainment industry.
Transcript
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I'm trying to remember what her intro was before
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what did she say we're we're gonna be grilling sneeko the something
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controversial I don't remember I'll just make it up
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love speech what's going on everybody we are live in London at a very nice restaurant I have to thank
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the owner and everything for letting us be here right now I know it's early in the US but luckily
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they let us open a little bit early to have this conversation I'm here with an old friend even
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though men and women can't be friends but it's my turn to grill her okay she's known for grilling a
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lot of famous people and rappers these people alpha males and she comes from a feminist perspective
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it's my turn okay the men are getting the revenge I have my questions prepared and I'm very excited
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to see her again it's been about a year uh welcome Cheyenne Reynolds your turn to be grilled how are
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you hello how are you I'm doing good good nice to see you nice to see you again you're not gonna
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give me a hug oh it's good to see you good to see you so I don't probably like we're matching beige
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and black yeah we didn't prepare this but we are we're both wearing beige and maybe we should have
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like planned it but we look too friendly right now because I want to put you in the hot seat I know
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so sit a little further away okay so how have you been it's been about a year yeah I've been okay
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I've been better um just trying to learn new things about life so yeah traveling you're in
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discovery phase yes oh my god big time what does that mean because I've been traveling a lot too
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just came back from Albania I wouldn't say discovery phase more work phase but what so what's uh what
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phase of life are you in now yeah no it's definitely like discovery I think I'm trying to lean more into
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like purpose so I'm just meeting people along the way learning about people their life their
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situations and I guess adapting it to my life okay how has your life changed like how does how
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do you yeah do you know what it is it's changed in the sense of I'm a more aware I like to think I
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was a little more aware before I wasn't aware person but I just think now it's just learning more
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perspectives because I think obviously from my previous show which was grilling which is now
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called come correct as come correct come correct yeah similar format but obviously on my own terms
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now so I'm independent with that and congrats thank you that's the way to go yeah it's a big
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leap because I think a lot of people especially in the creative space like you don't realize
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how much and how important ownership is so now obviously having ownership but it's hard because
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I feel like having to do everything by yourself and be like a one woman team it's the hardest part
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but now I've got a team so shout out to Andrew and Gigi that are here your team is good they came set
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up with all this equipment yes see why don't you come and have more teams see this is how we do it
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well we work together but that's good I always thought that you were the star of the show I mean
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the fact that uh I guess that's a separate conversation the biggest aspect but you were
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definitely the one carrying everything but egos get involved exactly and uh you went really viral
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the the Andrew Tate one oh god yeah like 20 million views is it 20 million that that interview and he
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just got arrested so yeah what are your thoughts on that do you know what I think like the whole I think
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after meeting him in person I think it's really hard for people that aren't in the industry to
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understand like content manipulation so I from what I've met of Andrew and my encounter with him
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I think he's been very polite very pleasant very charming everybody says that who knows him you
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know and I just feel like people that don't understand how this social media stuff works
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like it's so easy to take content manipulate it and make it sound way more aggressive or than it
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actually is so I just think I'm not one of these people that's like oh my god he's like guilty I'm not
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saying he's innocent like I don't you never know the truth of situations but all I know is my
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experience with Andrew was very very pleasant I can't actually say anything bad about him
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so he should be free yeah yeah I think so I think so but it's been a what about your relationship
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oh you know it's nice to be in this side of the conversation because uh you do have a lot of strong
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opinions about relationships and so so where are you at to be fair where am I at I think I've
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definitely realized doing the show makes relationships very hard like in my personal life so I'm just
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learning to navigate that I still think and this is the maddest part when you guys you red pill
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man's fear I'm not red community we don't like that word oh sorry it's a no-go word but when you
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guys would come on and we challenge views and opinions my views were always very similar but it
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was coming yes it was yes it was like I always said if women I can think of five things we disagree
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on but it's fine but continue yeah no but for me ultimately it was always about unity like
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men and women uniting together and that's how it should be what does that mean like a happy home
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not having like 10 wives yeah so I think no no no because this is where I'm gonna sound like a big
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hypocrite but I understand polyamorous relationships open relationships so even that as a whole is a
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separate conversation but I feel like in modern western world they don't understand open relationships
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in that sense or like sister wives I think that's a whole different dynamic which for me like one of
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my best friends she's Muslim she was raised by two mothers and a father so I completely understand that
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perspective and there was so much peace in their household but not everybody understands that and I get
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it so that's why I say I'm understanding people the world but ultimately what I like to preach is men
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being loyal at home at home at home no but honestly going to work not outside I just don't want a man outside
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you don't want your husband to go outside to work not to party okay party aside that's understandable
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but there's things that a guy has to do say would you let your husband would you be okay with your
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husband traveling around the world and working and no I'd have to come you have to come
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everywhere he goes so you haven't changed at all your standards are the same it's not no but I don't understand
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why I feel like I would add value to you like I could come travel with you you would you really
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want to do that or do you just want to supervise both being honest it'd be to do both because I
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feel like if I'm with you there are so many other outlooks and perspectives that I could bring like
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don't don't laugh like women can bring so much value to men and relationships and even in business
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not fully every business move that could be what you do but I can give a whole nother outlook like
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why would you not well that's why you're you would be a wife and not my business partner those are
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different relationships but why can't you have a wife that is a business partner we're in this we're
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in the same team you can in some aspects but okay let me give you the personal example I've been
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traveling for a month we've been to about like what seven eight countries if I had a woman there it
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would be like you getting ready just now I don't want to like reveal everything but you know you're
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putting lotion on your legs you're you're getting your hair right there's nothing wrong with that
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but like we need to go places I have to catch the airport do you want me to have dry legs
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at home yes well I don't want you to have dry legs I want you to have lotion legs but exactly we have
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to get places you know how much I know don't do that because I know a matter of urgency if you was
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like look so if my husband was like look babe we need to be ready we need to be here I'll be
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efficient I'll be at the door before you I'll be like driving the car ready okay but if I change plans
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last second if I have to go from Albania go on a boat to Greece and then fly to London
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are you going to be able to pack your suitcase last second like this and be ready to go no because
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I feel like what you men underestimate is the ability of when a woman loves her man the things
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that we'll do like we will have everything ready for you like we really will we want to make your
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life easier and I think making it easier would be staying at home and not traveling with me but I
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want to come why do you want to come because I want to come I don't know see I never understood
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that about your perspective why do you want to come but why not why would you not want to share
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this moment with me see this what it's not you don't actually want to come it's just like why
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not why can't I come yeah but I think it would be fun like we're making money together like we're
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really but I think I want maybe I've watched too many movies but I want the whole like Bonnie and Clyde
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ride or die build something together okay maybe not Bonnie and Clyde that's a bit crazy yeah
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they both died at the end I want like ride or die together give me an example of that relationship
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um I can't name one there's it doesn't exist no yeah it is a bit of a fantasy but I want it I'm
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gonna make it happen okay so are you still single single what are you looking for right now so I've
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been dating and so but yes I've just been dating really and with the guy that was with last he was
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really lovely so we're just figuring things out I think doing this industry as a woman it is a lot
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harder than just like what people think and I think ultimately going into traditional values and
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stuff it is very hard like I understand the love and the ability and the power of women being at home
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but I'm not ready to be at home I'm ready to be a wife but I'm also not ready to give up my career
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just yet but I think ultimately it's gonna take a very great and a very strong man to be with me
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ultimately because it doesn't sound like the guy you're with is that guy no he is no he definitely
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is but it's just there's so many factors that come into it it's not just a fairy tale to be like oh
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my god let's make it work you know like there's situations as things like it's complicated to make
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things work you're waffling no I'm not waffling I'm not it's like not my business doing to share
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to the world situation so it's complicated basically yeah okay but I don't but then in a fairy tale of me
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it's like it shouldn't be complicated if if you're the factual person it shouldn't be as complicated
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how is it in the dating world in London it's crazy it's very different than Miami yeah Miami's all I
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mean you met some of my Miami friends uh Myron and Fresh yeah when they came here uh Miami dating life
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is a lot of clubbing partying going out it's a very public atmosphere is it the same here it's it isn't
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it isn't it depends who it is that you're dating I think for me I am believe it or not because I talk
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on the internet for a living but in real life I'm a very reserved person so I do find it hard
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navigating in spaces when it comes to dating because I think ultimately I see the other end
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of when I've gone on dates with guys and then when I've gone out and then people want to take
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pictures with me or something like that I can see the first three pictures is fine but then after a
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few it gets a bit much it gets a bit much so then it's like oh it's very conflicting so I'd need a man
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that's very understanding with my current career you can't just say no to the pictures if you're out
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with your no why would I say no because it's making them insecure no it's not but what it is it's like
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for me where I'm at and where I'm career building like people that watch my content I really value
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because it's it's changed my life so I feel like I'm never going to disregard someone for like a
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moment because they're what's made my content go viral so I'm very grateful for that I get there
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is a time there's especially there's a time and place there is right that's what I'm saying but
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walking down the street that is totally fine I want to give you an example I was with um a family
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member and I hadn't seen them in a while we're walking down the street we're going to dinner and then
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someone comes chasing me down let's take a photo let's go photo photo photo I'm like you know what
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right now I'm with my aunt I'm right here I'm gonna do and then she loved that and she told my
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whole family about that she got really excited like I'm with my aunt like she started bragging about
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how I rejected that that would make your your husband feel wanted and that instead of sharing
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your attention everywhere everywhere maybe yeah I'll let you know how it goes well I mean in dating
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have you ever tried matter daddy what's that no like when it comes to relationships in
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london have you have you you never tried it was it you never tried matter daddy no what
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and what have you tried to to matter daddy what's that you've never no I'm literally looking at your
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eyes like what no no no because you said that you're taking pictures a lot of people you've never tried
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some people you some people do do what they try matter daddy what the hell is that
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I need you to break it down is what is not matter daddy not too much how are you oh my god thanks
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for asking got it got it got it got it I won okay I'm gonna get into these questions so it's time
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to grill you a bit that took way too long you could see I was lying yeah that's what I was like
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you could you could tell that I was lying but I got you for someone to jump in he knew you know
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okay first question I wish we had the drawings on the front but um what have you seen of me since
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we last met what do you mean as in on the internet yeah um a few things to be fair you disappeared for
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a bit so I don't know if it's because like my algorithm just suddenly said I fell off no you
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didn't fall off but it's like I think my algorithm changed because I was just like I came off the
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internet on that content so what's your algorithm now cats and girl stuff I bet your phone is a bunch
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of makeup and hair yeah okay typical female all right that makes sense but what have I seen to
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be honest with you I've seen just you on the internet I think I saw that you it was like
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debunking the whole red pill kind of thing so I'm not sure if I'm saying it right if I was debunking
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yeah it was kind of like you were breaking it down then obviously my vain self was like oh my god
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this was after my episode that he's changed his news but he did no I feel like I did you're not
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gonna admit it but I know you didn't change my perspective on anything I know that I did
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influence it you had absolutely zero influence I definitely influenced on my worldview I definitely
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influenced it I even got I even got voice notes from other people like I've been watching sneakers
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content and I think that you've changed it do you want me to play it do you want me to play it
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I want to hear yeah if you have a phone I'm very interested in it because I don't know what the
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influence would be you said that you liked um sucking toes and don't do that to me then we argued
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about uh thank you or no and then it was about I was saying that a man being at the home and the
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importance of your legacy about being a father well you realize I'm not at home right now I've been
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traveling the whole world you know this is far from home I remember there was a video where you
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were saying about you know your legacy and everything like that and I did influence that my legacy yeah what
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did you influence about no let me show you no I have to show you okay because I need the timeline
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for it to make sense I don't know what you're talking about right how you doing
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I saw your video with academics too that was a that was a fun we could we could talk about it but let
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me first hear this one oh wait it's quite the voice notes let me just what would she have influenced
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me on did you see the depending on when you filmed that I honestly think this conversation has had a
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massive impact on him because like he's been saying some madness for a long time in it but recently I
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saw him he was on fresh and fit and he proper grilled them for being on this like corny ass like
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well this is may 2023 yeah yeah well I disagree with getting but I've never been pro vasectomy
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there was no point where I ever said that um yeah that was a long time ago but do you remember
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anything else that because that was over a year ago I remember that debate that was okay that was
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a debate with uh he calls himself the godfather of the red pill and he was advocating for vasectomies
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but even when we were we did our um we first met our first date I was always advocating for family
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and having children I felt like it wasn't what do you think I said no I'm definitely sure it wasn't
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because I was like oh my god but that's your seed that's your legacy I'm sure in my mind that's what
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it was I think you just made it I mean that's not female nature it's okay what is your least favorite race
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don't have least favorite okay well what side are you picking when it comes to the UK rides
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you don't want to answer that no do you know what it is I don't have a least favorite race because
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being a mixed race person I have what are you again you're uh half trinity right no so it's
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English and Jamaican English so being mixed race you see both sides of the perspective and it's
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awful when you just see half your family this side and half family that but it's yeah not good
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so you're pro-immigration yeah okay absolutely great how have your views changed on what you're
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looking for in a guy in a relationship it sounds like they're exactly the same yeah no they are the
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same but joy is I'm a lot more calmer to being open to be more submissive to a man however not
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fully submissive because I do believe and I think it should be advocated for women to have their
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financial independence I think don't laugh I'm not laughing I'm letting you talk um because it's
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important I think you just need to hold your own but that's also me speaking from a deep background
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where you know when I was younger I was in an abusive relationship I had to leave that so I'm never
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saying anything just to preach and lead people blindly on the internet like my experience was
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I was with a man he completely controlled me like locked me in his house took everything he locked
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you in the house yeah he would lock me in his house so like yeah domestic so I had to literally
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find my way out so that was get get working make my own money so I'm not just saying it just to like
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be an idiot on the internet but you realize your perspective is pretty unique most girls you know
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most women they don't want to be doing the career that you're yeah like most girls even now there's
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like there's busy there's a lot of men here stuff like this you're comfortable in situations that a
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lot of women would not be comfortable in yeah so you can't apply that standards to most people
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yeah but you know what it is I think ultimately everyone does have a different experience but
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ultimately women do need their own financial independence because there could be a time where
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you're there if like you're my man and you're down you might need money to help you get back up to
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invest in something and if I've got my own bit of money and if I'm actually with you
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and we're in this together that might be the thing that helps you like I feel you shouldn't
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underestimate women's abilities so how do you balance the submissive nature and also your
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independent nature I think it's it's you have two conflicting ideologies it's not it's you know what
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it is it's you've got to meet the right man that put puts me in a position where I can feel safe
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enough to submit because right now I'm on survival I'm making my own money I can't submit like I
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can't I don't feel safe like and it's not with my man it's just in my life right now unless you
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are actually be able to be like look babe this is this and this is what we need to do to be able
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to build this situation build it together I need to feel like we are secure in a relationship because
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I won't I can't like I can't you make pretty good money right how much do you need before you could
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just do you know what it's for me I'm I'm not your typical female I'm my personal life is very chaotic
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I am coming from like a place of survival I have to look after my mom I have to look after my sister
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my sister's in and out of hospital my mom's now in and out of hospital so for me like I have too many
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people in my life depending on me so it's not I'm not just a girl on the internet posting up for clout
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like I'm genuinely trying to change my family generational wealth because unfortunately
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there's on my mom's side there's no men in our family to do that so if we go back to traditional
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views values and men being men of the house I don't have that so I feel like I am so you're the man of
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the house and it's hard okay so you you realize you cannot submit to a man if you're the man yeah
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so your views haven't changed at all and you're still no my views have changed like I'm open but
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like everything open to what has been in me but it's just finding the right time I just think
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timing for me isn't it how much more time do you need well my clock is running out so how yeah take
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time no but do you know what it is I I just know what I need to do and I've accepted that if it doesn't
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happen if I can't meet someone I don't get married it's just not in this lifetime like and I'm okay with
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that because you're okay with being single forever yeah not ideal so before you even be like oh this
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is I'm actually I've had to you have to make peace and accept it you would really prefer being single
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forever don't do that as I wouldn't prefer but it's okay if I'm not putting pressure on myself I'm not
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gonna act erratic act crazy just for the sake of wanting to settle down like if I meet someone I settle
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down then I settle down don't do it I see you laughing then it's just too bad because I know
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there's a lot of women like that that I don't think that you're gonna think the same thing in 20 years
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no definitely like I think it now like I get home and I'm lonely of course I want someone to share my
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life with but I'm not forcing it because just because out of desperation I'm gonna make the wrong
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choice and be with the wrong man that's crazy but you were just talking about legacy and how important
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it is and what do you want your legacy to be um the way that I love the what the way that I love
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and I think it's different for men because your name when you have children especially when you have
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sons that's how your legacy carries on so even going back into your traditional values a woman takes a
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man's name everything like that so a female's legacy isn't in that with the family name but my legacy
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would be my first name how I am my character and how I treat people like I've run pure love projects
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which is a homeless charity where we go through the homeless and obviously I'm trying to
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eventually move on from that and do more just acts of kindness so that's how I'll build my personal
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legacy leave a positive footprint on the earth do you think should we move over here is are they
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still working over here or no they're just setting up to start um you can go to one of the corners but
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whether we have more space yeah but it's a noisy problem it's a bit distracting yeah
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I think we should go there yeah yeah you think so yeah I'm easy yeah let me take the lights
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thank you yeah you need the lights huh yeah obviously oh wait I don't understand because this
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is quite a bit zoom in on that no we will not it's nice over here too okay perfect do you want me
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to grab something no I think we're good see that masculine energy let me grab something guys
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yeah here's much better here um right here yeah thanks oh there's plugs here as well convenient
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why do you want to sit like in the booth yeah right here I'm not looking at the questions
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yeah I couldn't focus too many people walking by it was like really bothering me
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so good you have good lights everything's good boys you don't need the light on the top
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oh really okay all right perfect what about children yeah no children is a legacy for people
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like I'm not saying it's not but I think it's very different for men and women when it comes to
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names and legacies don't you think so you don't care about having a lot of children no of course I
00:23:54.380
want loads of children but I don't think yeah I want kids I want more kids like I want why are you
00:24:03.640
doing that I'm just listening I'm just listening yeah no I think yeah traditional families and that is
00:24:09.620
yeah I listen to you I get a headache listening to you why because I want you to make sense and
00:24:16.080
there's just so many no but it does like what I'm saying makes sense I think ultimately like I said
00:24:20.300
before for men and women like it is about unity and it is about togetherness but I think also when
00:24:25.780
it comes to the internet online I'm not obviously I'm 30 but also with a lot of other women when
00:24:31.140
it comes to like I thought you were 27 that's my media age so when it comes to pressures and stuff
00:24:37.300
it it's very hard when it comes to society because we've seen it I've heard it I had so many
00:24:42.380
conversations women lose their value as they get older and it's it's very hard when you're navigating
00:24:47.280
in the space when you're not trying to just be with someone for the sake of being with someone
00:24:50.840
would you rather have a Christian son or a gay son
00:24:55.840
either I'm okay what would you prefer a son that actually can be respectful and be very loving to the
00:25:05.100
world if he was all those things respectful loving masculine these things would you prefer
00:25:10.640
that he were gay or Christian either good answer no it's not but for me I genuinely
00:25:17.920
I accept people for who they are why are you still single um when you say still single
00:25:27.080
unmarried at least yeah why am I unmarried like I said I realized that I'm not easy to be with
00:25:33.960
being completely honest but it's because my workspace like I promise you I could easily settle down
00:25:38.100
tomorrow and it's not been in a big-headed way it's very easy for women to actually settle down
00:25:43.860
I don't think it is it really is no western women is the more a woman speaks English the harder it is
00:25:48.700
for her to settle down because she's she's been indoctrinated by feminism and so that you have
00:25:53.580
that combative thing we're like why can't I travel why can't I do this instead of just
00:25:57.480
accept him accept exactly no but that's what I mean like if I really wanted to I could accept everything
00:26:03.160
like if I really really wanted you don't want to yeah not right now like I even said that I'm really
00:26:08.720
happy with where I'm at right now I don't need to surrender anything but in this present moment
00:26:13.760
like I said I'm on a mission I've got things that I want to do what's your mission
00:26:17.460
like I fully just said like my mom's not well right my sister's sick right like I've got a lot of
00:26:25.100
things that I've got to do like I said I'm the man of the house I'm having to look after everyone so
00:26:30.840
when it comes to the malpressures I understand it because I feel like I'm in my masculine energy
00:26:35.380
because of the things that I've got to do I'm in survival for my family right that's the headache
00:26:39.900
you're too pretty to be the man of the house be just be a woman well I would like to but my
00:26:46.980
current situation circumstances I can't fair fair uh any relationships since we last spoke
00:26:53.720
yeah and why did they end um to be honest with you being completely honest it's just that
00:26:59.220
observation on my life and what I want and where I'm trying to go and I think I come with a lot of
00:27:05.140
baggage being completely honest when it comes to relationships and moving forward because I don't
00:27:11.740
want no man to have to take they can take on me so you have a lot of baggage too yeah like my like I
00:27:17.380
have got so much stuff to deal with like I'm very difficult because you don't make a great sales pitch
00:27:22.220
for yourself I'm not trying to sell myself though I'm just working I'm just doing me I'm not trying
00:27:26.560
to sell myself because if that was the case like I'm very smart if you if you're trying to actually
00:27:30.800
get married to a man you literally do everything you cook you clean you be a yes woman and then
00:27:35.960
that's it and you don't talk about your problems you just deal with them and then a man will easily
00:27:40.120
snap you up so well why did your last relationship end if you had one to be honest with you I wouldn't
00:27:46.720
say like it just like ended but I think it's just you realize you're on different timelines so
00:27:50.500
the guy that was interested in was 10 years older than me and then realizing that I'm not in a
00:27:57.180
position to do certain things or I'm not submissive enough and that's fine so you ended it yeah it was
00:28:04.360
amicable we both oh no no no that's not how it works yes it is how it works okay so he broke up
00:28:10.340
with you no he didn't break up with me you both at the same exact time you said no we're done no
00:28:14.980
because it's getting to a point where we're arguing it's just not a nice space it's just toxic well who
00:28:19.800
initiated the breakup I did oh okay you dumped him no but I wouldn't say I dumped him because
00:28:26.480
then you go back it's like those toxic moments where you keep going back for a while and then
00:28:30.000
you go for them like the final straw was you yeah okay well you seem like you're in a good place
00:28:35.700
yeah okay and yeah well it's just it's difficult I love it I'm like yeah then we're not going to get
00:28:43.380
anything personal yeah and then it's like shy this this this so why are you single um why are you
00:28:48.680
single can I fire it back at you I just yeah you can grow back sure why are you single I am looking
00:28:53.780
for the right one no you're not I am no you're not what makes you you don't know what do you you
00:28:59.820
haven't seen you in a year what are you talking about I'm looking for the right one I don't think
00:29:02.760
you are what do you think I'm looking for you're working yeah I feel like you're on your building
00:29:07.260
stage that's true that's true but while I'm building I look yeah yeah so what do you do to
00:29:12.160
look for a wife ask friends mutual friends and that's it okay where do you go to I actually don't
00:29:19.980
think like in this I think we're we're in the same career stage but it's funny because you're a girl
00:29:24.260
but I can relate to that when you're working hard and trying to build on something I think having a
00:29:28.220
relationship is just going to drag you down unless you're like married and you actually know what you
00:29:32.360
want but having girlfriend boyfriend thing I think it's a giant waste of time I think if you
00:29:36.220
really want to get to the next level I've come to realize you just break up just get rid of them
00:29:39.760
get rid of the dead weight because if you were gonna be with this person you would already be
00:29:42.640
married don't you say you say trigger words I notice that's what you do what I said wait
00:29:45.960
yeah like that's not like baggage yeah it's too much it's weighing you down it's not weighing you
00:29:52.680
down I think once again it's you meet those once in a lifetime people that you don't want to get
00:29:57.000
rid of but you should if you if you want to succeed it's either one or the other yeah so I hear it
00:30:02.460
because that's where I'm at yeah but it's frustrating so you same thing you did you cut
00:30:06.800
off a dead weight it was dragging you down it was holding you drowning you in the ocean but sometimes
00:30:11.340
though I think I hold myself down because you have to get to a point where you're like what is it you
00:30:15.000
actually want like what is it you actually want I want to get married I want to have kids and I
00:30:20.220
want to keep building my career okay so when you say like what where's your five-year plan
00:30:27.920
this is like a job interview yeah I haven't been asked this question since I worked at Subway
00:30:32.000
five-year plan I don't know what I'm going to do tomorrow yesterday I was in Albania like
00:30:36.040
everything is just it's very chaotic I know what I want to do but five-year plan is a ridiculous
00:30:40.280
thing because I don't even know what's going to happen tomorrow genuinely so I don't think you are
00:30:43.700
looking for a wife then I am no because you're you're very busy but you don't need your idea of a
00:30:51.200
wife is that you need to be together all the time you need to like be like Siamese twins going
00:30:54.340
everywhere I disagree but in the beginning stages of getting to know someone you need to spend and
00:31:00.660
have a lot of time to commit no because for me personally if I'm to if I'm trying to get to know
00:31:04.520
you and then you're flying off everywhere I'm not going to get to know you all I know is that you're
00:31:09.860
very busy you don't have time for me how much you really need to know about your wife what
00:31:14.000
everything you don't need to know everything the kind of love that I want though I want like a really
00:31:16.940
deep love like I like deep substance depth I want to know everything about you the best love is
00:31:21.620
actually when you don't know everything where you just put your best foot forward and you always
00:31:26.320
show your best self I don't want to know everything about anyone that's not gonna that's not gonna
00:31:31.980
build greater love you should always every time you see your husband or wife you should always put
00:31:35.800
your best foot put your best shirt on look your best and have your legs moisturized so you want a
00:31:40.060
fake love I don't want fake love I don't want the best love why do I want like any I don't want to
00:31:44.460
see you in your worst moments why I prefer not to with anybody with anything in life you know
00:31:51.200
there's something for your wife when she when she comes you want to you want to say like for me
00:31:55.680
maybe it's because I'm a huge romantic person like I watch too many movies you know that
00:32:00.660
you're a romantic person what like I I would love to know like everything about you so then
00:32:06.140
I know when you've had like a bad day so even little things like your mannerisms the way you are
00:32:10.920
like if you're having an off day like if I was your woman I really knew like I would love to
00:32:15.380
like your woman would know how to perk you back up and I think knowing certain things like it could
00:32:19.380
be past traumas childhood traumas like so many different things stop it keep going I'm not doing
00:32:25.080
anything and um and I feel like when you've got a partner that it really is like that really deep
00:32:30.120
rooted love and connection nothing's going to beat that like no outside person energy can throw that
00:32:37.280
often and I think if you've got that I think you'll have the ability to go and travel the world
00:32:41.580
because that trust really is there like if you know how your man behaves when he's drunk or when
00:32:46.200
he does certain things like you know no like you're like if someone's out like you can know how certain
00:32:51.960
patterns are even if he's if he's angry what his tendencies are to do or things like that I think
00:32:56.580
you have to really really know your person not just put your best foot forward I think putting
00:33:00.340
your best foot forward is good and it's always good to look good for your man show up for your man
00:33:04.680
like and for your woman but I just think that's fake like I want something real it's not fake you're
00:33:10.400
just always showing your best self yeah but as you should like I'm not going to give you I don't
00:33:15.940
want to give you my worst side but at the same time it's you there's moments like you're human it's
00:33:21.060
human error to mess up it's human error to cry have a bad day have an off day like I could absolutely
00:33:26.120
try my best but by default sometimes I just can't give you my best and that's inevitable to happen but
00:33:32.020
ideally that never happens right so there's some guys I know that they'll have a wife in a different
00:33:36.420
country like guys that have a wife in Albania for example and they live in America and they see their
00:33:41.500
wife like twice a year and they're married and everything they'll communicate on the phone and
00:33:45.380
then when they do see each other they like she gets ready she's excited they have the best experience
00:33:49.600
ever best restaurants all this stuff and then he goes back to work he does this thing she's at home
00:33:53.460
and she has the best memories like I think the most romantic loves if you're going to go and follow
00:33:57.160
a romantic Hollywood idea it's when a wife is waiting for her husband to come back from war
00:34:02.460
and she's opened up the window and she's like looking peering through she had like he's at war
00:34:06.780
he opens up the little locket he's like oh Lacey or whatever Nancy you're that memory is stronger
00:34:13.000
having an idea of love is stronger than knowing somebody all the time because romanticism that
00:34:18.580
happens in your brain it doesn't happen like in the conversation it's the ideas that you build up in
00:34:22.240
your head so you don't want to see him all the time I would my words how did I not just convince
00:34:29.120
you with that you were looking at me like that sounded good and then you just you just disagree
00:34:32.240
to disagree I just know I think I just know the kind of relationship that I want and I think that's
00:34:36.620
really what's dangerous when it comes to our kind of conflicting views and challenging conversations
00:34:42.220
it's we don't have to agree we don't have to always disagree and it's just like the ultimate
00:34:47.340
thing is like you are your own individual person like there are people that will follow your
00:34:51.420
ideal and that's fine and that's why they follow you but then there's also people that have the
00:34:55.260
same belief system as me and might want the same things as me and that's why they follow you've
00:34:58.540
also just said just now that you might be single forever and you've accepted that yeah that's
00:35:01.640
okay that's not okay yeah how is humanity is not going to continue if we have a lot of women
00:35:06.540
like that it's fine it's fine it's definitely fine what's fine the world is overpopulated anyway
00:35:11.280
right oh this is the this is why I argue with the guy like promoting vasectomies because we need
00:35:15.920
to have people that want to have kids the world's not overpopulated they're fine
00:35:18.800
women there's a lot of women that don't listen to women this is exactly why this is exactly why
00:35:24.180
I say that um would you move countries oh no here here's a question if you got into a disagreement
00:35:29.360
with your husband who makes the final decision what about who makes the final decision in an
00:35:35.600
argument my husband yeah it was well yeah it is him okay would be him what if we're married and I
00:35:42.160
want to move to Albania then we have to move to Albania you would yeah like if you're building
00:35:47.740
something with someone it becomes a thing like yeah we're gonna disagree but if you're married
00:35:53.400
to someone you follow them okay so you would listen I do listen I'm not an idiot it's not about
00:36:00.860
being an idiot but you would I think you think I'm a bit like stupid I don't think you're stupid I
00:36:05.580
just think that you have just this angry feminist that you're resisting against is that I'm not like
00:36:10.440
I'm really not like I'm a very aware person like I'm a very conscious person like I'm smart enough to
00:36:15.420
know that you have different perspectives and different realities and that's totally okay
00:36:18.980
you know it's like I'm not trying to fight you like and I think one thing you say you got the
00:36:23.400
trigger word earlier has got me riled up I think it's more like it's I'm totally fine being where
00:36:30.380
I'm at I totally understand where your opinions and beliefs come from like I'm not here to completely
00:36:36.180
fight you about it like I have to make peace with that because if we're just fighting this time
00:36:40.620
it's not that I think you're stupid it's like you know when your kids and your brother or sister
00:36:47.000
is playing with a toy and then you want that toy because they have it not because you actually want
00:36:51.600
to play with it it's because they have something that you don't have that's you that's you no it's
00:36:56.940
not it's not me that's why I said I'm totally okay not having a relationship so I'm not the kid
00:37:03.440
that wants the toy all right well invest in cat food invest in some cat food do you think you could
00:37:08.800
uh can you turn off the phone yeah it's like really loud um you like cats I have cats oh so
00:37:16.120
you're already prepared yeah how many do you have get more get six the way you're talking yeah uh how
00:37:23.380
would you improve yourself um to what is with you depends if I'm improving myself for me right now
00:37:30.340
then stay going to the gym stay being healthy stay in good environments with good people
00:37:37.200
if I'm trying to be a wife then I have to improve on we are talking about being a wife because that's
00:37:44.980
what I'm just guessing just improve yourself oh but I like that you keep thinking about wife when I
00:37:48.540
ask you these questions yeah I know exactly that means I'm projecting a good idea of relationships um
00:37:52.980
I think I know what I need to do to be a wife like I need to be at home more there's so many more
00:37:58.040
sacrifices that I'd have to do but ultimately to improve myself is just keep reading more books
00:38:02.900
personal development center self meditate more and just that's it to stay more aligned with what my
00:38:08.620
vision is the gym stuff should still apply to wife of course yeah absolutely I mean you look good since
00:38:14.960
last time I was like wondering uh how you're gonna look like oh really yeah I don't know yeah I don't
00:38:22.180
know when you haven't seen someone in a while okay let's do a couple more and then we'll do the
00:38:28.420
interviews okay what are your non-negotiables in a relationship and why are they important to you
00:38:34.560
um a non-negotiable is probably that's actually a really hard one because I'm very chilled but my
00:38:42.980
very what very chilled in a relationship but I'd say I'm trying to go back to like the last situation
00:38:47.560
I've just been in yeah I think it was the communication with other females it's kind of
00:38:54.360
like there has to be boundaries so it's hard to communication with those what do you mean like
00:38:59.820
for example um it's hard because I can't talk to other women yeah like in a certain way like
00:39:07.120
certain manner like okay so you can take pictures with men that are your fans if we're out to dinner
00:39:11.240
but I can't have I can talk to another girl yeah or what else no you can talk to other females but
00:39:18.520
you have to have boundaries like you have to make it known like you have a partner all those things
00:39:23.640
and I think if you don't then there's a big red flag okay and I don't see anything wrong with that
00:39:29.380
what about you my non-negotiables in a relationship um can't go to the club can never step in a club
00:39:37.580
are you agreeing or disagreeing I can't tell to myself with you the clubbing thing I actually
00:39:41.960
get it I feel like clubbing it's okay in your relationship I think it is a low vibrational
00:39:46.540
experience very like I actually don't like it I think the club is horrible it's messy do you drink
00:39:50.640
um I do drink but I'm not a big drinker and it's only because like I'm a lightweight and I don't like
00:39:56.440
Caribbean's like to drink though yes but I don't like the version I think when you grow up in an
00:40:01.080
alcoholic one alcoholic background right you don't want to drink it brings out the worst in you
00:40:06.540
yeah and I've seen how people can change so that's why I'm not a big big drinker
00:40:10.360
but what you said earlier you like to see people at their worst and everything too so wouldn't you
00:40:15.040
like to know somebody yeah that's what I mean so when you know so that's what I mean so like when I
00:40:19.100
to pick up on that so it's like you know if like a certain part like if you're with someone and
00:40:24.540
if they're if they deal with like a bad day by drinking alcohol then you know what kind of person
00:40:29.700
they are because it's kind of like for me it's a weak thing it's an escapism like it's just an
00:40:35.400
escape so you kind of know about that person that's why when I say I want to know everything
00:40:38.680
about you I need to know do you have a gambling addiction because I couldn't be with someone where
00:40:42.960
we've got a house together we've got kids together and then you're gambling all our money and we've
00:40:46.860
lost our house so when I say I need to know you it's because of that yeah just don't marry a gambling
00:40:51.100
addict yeah you just don't do that exactly okay what's your love language and how do you ensure
00:40:57.160
your partner meets your needs uh as in like what I like to do love languages or what I like to perceive
00:41:03.080
yeah what is your love language I think this is like a liberal like gay word but what's your
00:41:07.840
because some people say it's touch and it's communicating or whatever I feel like mine's
00:41:10.800
all of them I like to do all of them I'm a proper like giver I'm a people pleaser nice so I feel
00:41:16.320
like words of affirmation especially I think it goes a long way I think gifts gifts given I'm like
00:41:22.980
the best at giving gifts best at giving gifts yes you like to give yeah I am because your way is I
00:41:28.360
like to be thoughtful so when you think about what someone likes then I like to like make you
00:41:32.560
happy with that right right um what is it words of affirmation touch like I am a touchy person what
00:41:37.340
else do you give whatever someone needs really like if I know that you need something if I can do
00:41:42.720
that for you then I'll do it and sometimes it might even just be time it might be lending a hand
00:41:46.260
doing something it might be you physically you might not buy certain trainers right because you like
00:41:51.720
to give physically so yeah or it could be anything not a physical gift it could be anything but I just
00:41:56.180
like to give where I can but within reason you can't be taken for an idiot that was good I was
00:42:02.740
expecting you to say a lot of but you like to to plead you come to please oh yeah no absolutely like
00:42:06.980
for me and as well going back into like my content and where I'm going I'm trying to be more purpose-led
00:42:11.880
so it's I just want to be of service to other people you want to be of service you like to service
00:42:16.740
yeah right and give okay what about you um what's my love language I like to receive
00:42:24.940
oh is it yes so yeah so great um giving give back that's another one okay one more and then um we'll
00:42:33.340
okay what are your thoughts on modern dating dynamics changing between men and women well my
00:42:39.720
thoughts I think it's tiring and I feel like me and you have some responsibility to it I think this
00:42:44.580
it's our fault that we're changing the relationship dynamics I feel like this whole podcast stream
00:42:49.380
online internet have been so detrimental right to it's ruined dating isn't it it's made me jaded
00:42:56.660
yeah no I sit down at a date or once in a while like well not even not a date but like I'll I've
00:43:02.000
sat at dinner with girls uh and the whole time I'm thinking I should just be streaming I should be
00:43:06.960
streaming the date like I don't want to waste time I don't want to make anyone laugh off camera I
00:43:11.620
don't want to waste my jokes I don't want to like all of it should be content and then even like
00:43:16.340
doing the fresh and fit podcast all the time it's like I'm used to the debate talking points and
00:43:20.600
everything and like oh body count this stuff it's really made me jaded towards just the whole idea
00:43:25.520
it's not fun anymore it just seems like a chore because I think you have the same thing our experience
00:43:30.440
our dating is is entertainment so it's like why would I do this for free yeah you know I want to make
00:43:36.580
money from from it yeah it's a hard one I think for me I'm not I'm not a big big data because I
00:43:43.180
think it's I feel like men come with ulterior motives so it's like I'm smart enough to know
00:43:47.420
if I have a pound every time I say I'm smart enough today yeah um I don't think you're stupid you keep
00:43:52.760
thinking that I'm thinking that I don't think though no it really is I know that there's a
00:43:56.120
difference between a man a man that's trying to love you and a man that's trying to sleep with you
00:43:59.400
like love and lust are very different things so unfortunately for me being as open as I am on my
00:44:05.780
socials the way that I post the way that I am it's kind of like I know that these men aren't
00:44:10.440
trying to take me serious so that's why I'd rather just not date because they're just trying to smash
00:44:13.860
yeah you're just trying to smash and I just and I can see right through it because your chat's all
00:44:16.940
the same so it's going to take a really special man to like really show up and show me that it's
00:44:23.380
different well one of the the guy that is looking for love you don't think that he's going to feel
00:44:28.480
qualms for the fact that maybe you've given it up to some people on the first day and then you haven't
00:44:35.480
well in relationships like say if that guy's looking for love say you waited three days or
00:44:40.340
whatever like how long are you how long are you gonna abstain how long are you making the guy wait
00:44:44.640
to be honest with you I think the longer you wait the better like I say to women like and don't get
00:44:49.000
wrong if you want to free up sooner that is totally fine but I just think ultimately you see more about
00:44:56.040
a man the longer you make him wait because you'll see if he gets frustrated see if he gets like
00:45:00.560
impatient and yeah and as well before you sleep with a man he's willing to do everything for you
00:45:05.160
so if you want more of a man don't sleep them okay so are you looking for love or just to extract
00:45:10.580
resources no I don't need to extract resources because that's what you just said no but regardless
00:45:14.600
like for me I've got a lot of men around me in my life as friends although you don't think men and
00:45:20.220
women can be friends yes they can I have a lot of men around me that I respect me that will help me
00:45:27.740
if I need them and I feel yes yeah because any of you that respect me and I feel like for me that
00:45:34.720
shows that I can be good with men you definitely can be good with men yeah would they have sex with
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you no don't do that we're the guys we're not calling no one I can we're not doing that listen
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you know how many shows I've been on and you have to go you didn't learn anything in a year like it's
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it's incredible okay um how about you step away first let's uh if you could go one-on-one me yes
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ways are going to ask you some questions about how it's going so far um and we'll be right back
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where do we want me to sit can we have light in
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okay so hello first thoughts um it's good to see him again he looks well about on him
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honestly or thoughts was in the conversation yes um yeah it's it's been nice to see him again
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i feel like i definitely believe that i changed his views and stuff when i last see him i don't care
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so how does it feel being the one to get grilled this time
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oh it's different i feel like i'm a bit of like an oversharer and i talk too much
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so i don't like it i do not like it and i feel like with nico
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i know the kind of answers he'd like i said he definitely says like trigger words to get me going
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so i'm trying to not like react as you can see i'm like staying calm and composed trying
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is there anything that he said that has surprised you in this conversation
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thoughts on him not wanting to travel with a wife
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yeah that's that's crazy i feel like he's i think maybe both of us we put the conversation too far
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into it being like the future when like you're actually happily married with your kids but i think
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ultimately when she's your fiancee she should definitely be traveling the world with you
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is there anything he said so far that has surprised you the most
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um nothing's surprised me because listen it's nico so
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um he's listen he is not looking for love do you heard him just then he said what was it even
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when i'm on a date i think about streaming that is not a man that's ready to commit just so you
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know the ladies don't fall for it what did you think of his pickup line earlier
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which one matter daddy oh no listen i was what the hell
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lastly do you have any advice for him going forward
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um i think to be honest with you um and the reason why i'm actually happy to meet him again
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i feel like he's actually seems like a nice guy i think he's gonna hate me but i think he's a bit lost
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i feel like he needs to keep doing what he's doing he's on a good path i wouldn't say lost in a rude way
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but i feel like he's very different to a lot of the other mansphere people in the community sorry i
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know i'm not saying that but like this whole mansphere stuff i feel like he could lead people on a much
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stronger path about unity and not just women being traditional and at home perfect wonderful thank you
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i don't know if you're gonna come down okay oh you're gonna get the mic for me
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oh you got that one can you turn it off when you walk by it
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all right don't listen i'm gonna talk shit about you
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i mean yeah she's i like her she's got a nice personality all this stuff
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she's pretty you know supposed to lower my gaze but
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oh it's just fucking it's a fucking headache bro
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and um the guys around her don't want to take her you know it's just
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you guys know don't need it you guys already know
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um i keep hanging out there but just fucking hell
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the more she speaks english the more she's gonna be uh brain rotted feminism
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she wants to keep doing the career thing she she wants to be outside
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she wants to keep taking pictures she wants to be fully career
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it's gonna be almost impossible for her to get to submit to a guy
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what are your thoughts on her being fine with being single forever
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it's crazy that you get people like this that are at the forefront
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and she even pointed it out of giving relationship advice
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talking about dating and programming people's ideas about dating because
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she's saying i'm okay with being single forever and having cats
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there's places all over the world where they need people
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there's population decline in japan we need more babies
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we need babies she should be having 10 babies right now not be here but instead
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is there anything she said so far that has surprised you
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no everything she said is exactly what i thought she was going to say
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but they women can't really do that women cannot lower their requirements they
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they have a specific set stone of what they believe they should have
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that's how strong the zog propaganda machine is
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what are your thoughts on her wanting to travel with her man everywhere
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and then lastly your thoughts on her wanting to be the man of the house
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like that's what yeah actually no i can't i can't wife of somebody who wants to be a man
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like you have to get to that point where she's at home