SNEAKO - September 15, 2022


Joe Rogan Calls Out SNEAKO For his ADHD!

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ADHD medication effects
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Dr. Gabor May gives his analysis on ADHD and anxiety, ADHD! Dr. May was diagnosed with ADHD when he was in his 50s, and has since lived with it ever since. In this episode, Gabor talks about how ADHD is not a disease, why it s not heritable, and how to deal with it.

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00:00:00.000 Physician Gabor May gives his analysis on ADHD and anxiety, ADHD!
00:00:04.160 I was just watching this very disturbing commercial.
00:00:07.420 WL, W-I of ADHD, L, it's a myth and it's just made to suppress creativity.
00:00:12.160 Yeah.
00:00:12.920 Yesterday with children, and it was talking about ADHD,
00:00:17.300 and it showed a kid that was not paying attention in class,
00:00:21.240 and it showed these kids like playing around and doing things they weren't supposed to be doing,
00:00:26.900 yes and then they introduce this medication and then you have the child raising their hand and
00:00:32.900 then you have everyone clapping disgusting chat type of one if you were put on adhd meds as a kid
00:00:38.440 i took ritalin i took adderall i took vivence i was prescribed when i was 12 13 something like
00:00:44.940 that in class like heart beating out of my chest oh i don't want lunch i'm okay
00:00:51.380 Not sleeping
00:00:53.860 And you have the child with a big smile on their face
00:00:56.300 And you've medicated your child
00:00:58.720 To be a successful and integrated
00:01:00.420 Person in society
00:01:01.960 Shall I spot off about ADHD for a minute?
00:01:04.840 Yes please
00:01:05.120 They brainwashed mommy to think that little Timmy needs to take these pills 0.99
00:01:08.400 And he'll be a good boy
00:01:09.300 He's acting up in class
00:01:10.440 Well there's something wrong with him
00:01:12.760 That was my first book
00:01:14.080 On ADHD
00:01:15.580 It's the American scattered or scattered minds 0.98
00:01:19.400 Depending on which edition you get
00:01:21.100 And that was after I was diagnosed with it myself
00:01:24.140 In my 50s
00:01:26.180 You got diagnosed in your 50s?
00:01:30.960 W
00:01:31.320 I mean, you must have still got a little bit of spunk to you, huh?
00:01:33.920 What does it mean?
00:01:35.060 ADHD
00:01:35.380 Yeah, what is it exactly?
00:01:37.100 Is it real?
00:01:38.560 Oh, it's real
00:01:39.240 But what does it mean?
00:01:40.240 Cap
00:01:40.500 Like if someone has ADHD, it's not like you have herpes
00:01:43.400 No, it's not real because they say that it's a disability
00:01:45.700 It's not, man
00:01:46.440 Right, like you can say, oh, you got a disease
00:01:48.520 What is it?
00:01:50.100 Well, that's the whole point, is that the medical profession and a lot of the so-called experts think about it as a disease, another one of these inherited diseases.
00:02:00.960 In fact, they say it's the most heritable mental illness there is.
00:02:05.020 And I say it's neither an illness nor is it heritable.
00:02:09.320 So the Hallmark are difficulty paying attention when you're not motivated.
00:02:14.140 So kind of tuning out, like that kid in the commercial.
00:02:16.740 Like me.
00:02:17.120 yeah but stuff that you're really interested in Chad
00:02:19.060 if you've been diagnosed with ADHD 0.96
00:02:20.960 you know that you can focus on shit that you really care about 1.00
00:02:23.100 when it comes time to make money 1.00
00:02:24.100 when it comes time to make art
00:02:25.420 when it comes to do what you really want to do
00:02:27.360 if you really like skating
00:02:28.440 you can skate all day long
00:02:30.120 but as soon as you have to sit in class 0.99
00:02:31.180 and listen to a bunch of good government bullshit 0.99
00:02:33.020 you tune out 1.00
00:02:33.980 you look at the stars 1.00
00:02:34.760 you don't give a fuck 1.00
00:02:35.620 you can't tell me that this shit matters 1.00
00:02:37.680 I know it doesn't 1.00
00:02:38.660 it's not ADHD 1.00
00:02:39.360 it's just not being able to focus on bullshit 0.99
00:02:41.140 okay 0.99
00:02:41.860 poor impulse control
00:02:43.360 so that you tend to act out whatever
00:02:45.480 what do you mean I'm poor impulse control
00:02:46.560 emotion arises i'm not emotional and sometimes the hyperactivity difficulty sitting still and
00:02:52.160 then to fidget and all that and that described me bro i can sit still whenever the i want what do
00:02:56.240 you mean ow ow bro broke the chair me to a t um and um but as soon as i learned about the diagnosis
00:03:09.200 i knew something this is not a disease and it's not heritable despite the fact that
00:03:16.940 Some of my kids were diagnosed with it.
00:03:19.100 What is it?
00:03:20.180 So tuning out is not a disease.
00:03:23.980 So let me ask you a question, if I may.
00:03:26.160 Okay.
00:03:27.080 If I were to stress you right now, create stress.
00:03:30.920 I'm not stressed.
00:03:31.640 Emotional difficulty or tension for you right now.
00:03:34.700 What would be your options of dealing with that, of dealing with me?
00:03:38.360 What would be your options?
00:03:39.280 I could get upset or I could leave.
00:03:41.160 Exactly.
00:03:42.040 You could fight back, flight or fight, yeah?
00:03:44.900 But what if you didn't have those options? 0.96
00:03:46.560 then you get fucking restless bro if i have to sit there and do okay yes teacher i pledge 1.00
00:03:52.360 allegiance to the flag of a bunch of fucking bullshit and i'll do my homework and never 1.00
00:03:57.420 complain yes i'm a bot yes i'll go to lunch time teacher teacher can i use the bathroom 1.00
00:04:04.020 can i use the bathroom no you're not a girl the girls can only go to the bathroom whenever they 1.00
00:04:08.780 want you're a boy so hold it okay teacher i will not go to the bathroom because i don't actually 0.99
00:04:13.720 have to go anymore i'm a boy i am wrong i am bad i'll do my homework fuck yeah then you're stuck 0.99
00:04:21.080 and now what does the brain do when you're stuck like that gets distracted it gets tunes out yeah 0.98
00:04:26.020 tunes out you want to do other things think about other things in other words it's a coping mechanism
00:04:30.740 yeah it's normal i mean the the idea that your child who is uh you know an eight nine year old
00:04:38.120 ball of energy filled with you know hormones and life and thoughts and things they enjoy and
00:04:45.440 then you make them sit down all day in this unnatural state in a classroom with fluorescent
00:04:51.860 lights and stare at a teacher that's unmotivated and underpaid and is teaching something in a very
00:04:57.920 boring and non-entertaining way yeah and then if this kid bro i can't even imagine what it was like
00:05:03.620 i luckily got out of school before the zoom era of like i graduated or no i dropped out right
00:05:08.500 before the zoom era i don't know how that was possible for anybody really trying to motivate
00:05:14.160 yourself in a pandy where the world like people are running outside like stealing toilet paper
00:05:19.960 and wiping their groceries from uber eats down with clorox wipes and you got to sit there and
00:05:24.560 look at an ipad or a screen class it's time to go to zoom class okay so now we're gonna watch
00:05:31.060 youtube video chad wl on zoom class is why i know what everyone's gonna type but oh my god i would
00:05:38.120 have how how how it's like kid doesn't lock in like a zombie we need to medicate them yeah well
00:05:47.800 the other part of it is that if you look at my infancy and it sounds like yours
00:05:53.340 we spent our first year or two under very difficult circumstances a lot of stress
00:05:59.460 infants can't help but absorb the stress of their parents right they can't help it what does an
00:06:04.820 infant do could i have escaped or fought back could you have all we could do is tune out yes
00:06:09.600 but when is this tuning out happening when our brain is being developed right in our brain this
00:06:14.480 is the part that nobody taught me in medical school but it turns out that brain science now
00:06:18.040 teaches us that the human brain develops under the impact of the environment so the the most
00:06:25.880 salient feature of the environment
00:06:28.780 that shapes the circuits of the human brain
00:06:30.740 is actually the relationship
00:06:32.900 with the parents.
00:06:34.860 And if the parents are present
00:06:36.880 and emotionally attuned
00:06:38.420 and available,
00:06:39.940 the child's brain is developed properly.
00:06:42.160 But the parents are stressed.
00:06:44.260 The child absorbs the stress.
00:06:46.380 What can they do with it? They tune out.
00:06:48.420 And that tuning out thing is programmed into the brain
00:06:50.620 and then 10 years later or 50 years later
00:06:53.140 we say, you've got this disease.
00:06:54.480 No, you don't.
00:06:55.480 You've got a coping mechanism that's no longer working for you.
00:06:58.620 So it's curable?
00:07:00.440 I'm 24.
00:07:01.300 I just turned 24, and I'm still, like, sometimes I was in the elevator with Jordan on the way to the stream. 0.98
00:07:05.660 I'm like, man, I still got that, like, teenager spastic fucking thing about me. 1.00
00:07:11.580 I mean, I could turn it on and off. 0.98
00:07:13.120 I don't know.
00:07:13.600 I don't know.
00:07:14.400 I don't know.
00:07:15.420 I don't know.
00:07:16.240 It's not a bad thing.
00:07:17.100 It's not a disability.
00:07:17.980 It's not a mental problem, bro, just because everyone else is boring and slow.
00:07:21.520 But it had a function when it first came along.
00:07:23.780 So this whole idea, and by the way, if a family comes to me with their ADHD child, I'll say to them, what you've got here is a very sensitive child.
00:07:36.460 That sensitive child is picking up on all the vibes, energies, and stresses in your family.
00:07:41.400 Want to help this child? Deal with the whole family.
00:07:44.500 Look at the parental relationship.
00:07:47.080 Look at what stress is there in your life.
00:07:50.300 Look at how you react to the child.
00:07:52.860 Look at, do you understand the child's behavior or the emotions that the child is having?
00:07:57.780 Type a one if you think this is just an American thing.
00:08:00.060 Or you're just trying to control the child's behaviors.
00:08:02.040 Look at all that.
00:08:03.400 And very often parents will tell me after they've read that book on ADHD is they've totally changed their relationship to their child.
00:08:08.540 The child changes.
00:08:09.540 What a surprise.
00:08:10.860 But you go to most doctors, you've got this disease, here's the pill.
00:08:15.360 And by the way, I took those medications and they helped me for a while.
00:08:19.300 When you were in your 50s.
00:08:20.960 Yeah, yeah.
00:08:21.320 i'm not anti-medic which ones did you take i took ritalin um which uh ritalin is just meth 0.91
00:08:27.340 and a pill like yes it helped you out because meth makes you fucking wired so if you're wired 0.99
00:08:31.780 you're going to be more efficient but you're also not going to eat and sleep it's really fucking 0.98
00:08:35.260 no i'm great i'm feeling great now i just want to talk about everything what do you want to do 0.99
00:08:38.840 what do you want to go you want to go somewhere do you want to pick a pinball in your face
00:08:40.720 no i don't want to drink i'm good i'll stop another red bull do you want to beat off yeah 1.00
00:08:43.860 i'm gonna beat off no let's go clean the entire apartment ha ha ha no that's really bad you want 1.00
00:08:47.320 to fuck i hate you what no i'm not a meth i'm on drugs if this is how i just feel 1.00
00:08:51.240 I feel great. 1.00
00:08:52.080 This is great.
00:08:52.800 I hate my life.
00:08:53.440 Everything's great, perfect.
00:08:54.500 Yes, that's Adderall.
00:08:55.840 That's meth.
00:08:56.880 I can tell you the story.
00:08:58.280 Sure.
00:08:58.680 So, you know, one of the hallmarks of ADHD is poor impulse control, right?
00:09:03.160 So I found out about ADHD, and even before I was diagnosed, I took Ritalin.
00:09:11.840 Why did you take it before you were diagnosed?
00:09:14.540 Because I'm a doctor, and I could, hey?
00:09:16.740 Oh, so you diagnosed yourself.
00:09:18.360 Well, I did.
00:09:18.920 This dude just wanted to take some drugs, bro 1.00
00:09:21.940 Get the fuck 1.00
00:09:22.420 You're 50 years old, you have ADHD 1.00
00:09:24.200 Bro, you just wanted to go pop some Ritalin
00:09:26.480 Ritalin is called, you know what the real name of Ritalin is?
00:09:30.120 Methylphenidate
00:09:30.560 Adderall is an amphetamine
00:09:33.040 Vyvanse is an amphetamine
00:09:34.940 It's literally meth in a pill
00:09:37.000 Given to you by Big Pharma 1.00
00:09:38.760 It's the same shit 1.00
00:09:40.360 Just a prescribed form 1.00
00:09:42.120 And you feel fine, you feel safe 1.00
00:09:43.880 Because a fucking pharmacist at Walgreens and a lab coat 1.00
00:09:46.200 Hey, give this to your 12 year old kid 1.00
00:09:48.400 But if you buy meth from some fucking shady guy outside of 7-Eleven, you ain't taking that shit. 1.00
00:09:53.040 Why do we trust Big Pharma more than, yeah, no, save shit? 1.00
00:09:57.760 Assume that you had that, didn't you? 1.00
00:09:58.980 Yeah, I knew I had it.
00:10:01.020 But not only that, also because I had poor impulse control.
00:10:03.660 I never practiced medicine that way.
00:10:06.060 I mean, if you came to me for any problem, my first impulse would never be to write your prescription.
00:10:10.500 Unless it was obvious that you needed it for an infection or something.
00:10:13.380 I'd sit down with you and talk to you about what's going on here.
00:10:16.800 But not me.
00:10:18.400 poor impulse regulation so i went to a colleague of mine medical colleague i said hey bev i think
00:10:25.720 i've got hd can you some can you give me some ritalin so she writes me a prescription
00:10:29.080 i think i got a made-up disorder can i have some drugs took it in a higher than recommended
00:10:34.000 initial dose i want to get high so i'm going to take bro you just wanted to get high you just got 0.99
00:10:39.000 some professional drugs you just got legal drugs bro you used your physician fucking past physician 0.98
00:10:44.140 guy you know what you were doing and uh because i mean if a little bit is good then more must be 0.88
00:10:49.080 even better and again it's not how i practice medicine right but i came to myself that's a
00:10:53.680 totally different ballgame this dude was trying to have a wow weekend so i felt immediately present
00:10:57.920 and calm and grounded and really yeah oh yeah i feel great no i feel focused i feel better than
00:11:03.060 i ever have yeah what do you want to talk about i just want to sit down and talk we don't even
00:11:05.860 talk anymore how are you feeling oh it's great cool cool what do you want to do you want to go
00:11:09.340 outside let's go and run i'm gonna go right now now i feel great i want to go to drive i hate this 1.00
00:11:12.960 This fucking sucks. 1.00
00:11:13.920 I don't want to fuck. 1.00
00:11:14.520 I'm going to beat up now. 1.00
00:11:15.280 It's great.
00:11:15.880 What do you mean you want to go outside?
00:11:18.740 If you've taken Adelaide before, you know what I'm talking about.
00:11:21.160 And it's a stimulant.
00:11:22.240 And I went, well, it calms the ADHD brain.
00:11:24.800 Then I go home and my wife says, you look stoned. 1.00
00:11:29.620 Because you're calm.
00:11:30.800 Yeah.
00:11:31.400 Well, because I got this glassy-eyed expression.
00:11:33.980 And within a couple of days, the Ritalin made me very depressed.
00:11:38.880 That's one of its potential side effects.
00:11:41.040 So I did see a psychiatrist.
00:11:42.960 I was formally diagnosed, and they gave me dexedrine, and I took that for a while.
00:11:47.800 That's an amphetamine, isn't it?
00:11:49.700 Yeah, it's an amphetamine.
00:11:50.500 It's another stimulant.
00:11:53.160 And it did help me.
00:11:54.780 I became a much more efficient workaholic, and I could do even work.
00:11:58.460 It didn't change any of my emotional issues, but it made me more focused. 0.99
00:12:03.320 That's bullshit, too. 1.00
00:12:04.200 It makes you feel like you're being really productive because you're like, yeah, whoa, I'm going to take on the whole fucking world. 1.00
00:12:09.460 When you take Adderall, Vyvanse, Dixendrin, 0.96
00:12:11.680 and any of these drugs,
00:12:12.900 the first four hours,
00:12:14.120 you just feel like you're doing a lot of stuff.
00:12:15.920 And if you really break down what you did
00:12:17.400 and how productive you were,
00:12:18.440 you weren't.
00:12:19.380 You weren't.
00:12:19.940 You just felt like you were.
00:12:20.900 Maybe the last two hours,
00:12:21.960 you finally get down to it.
00:12:23.420 But it's mostly the feeling of being productive.
00:12:25.560 It helped me write my first book.
00:12:28.200 But I haven't taken them for decades.
00:12:30.320 Because also, I know that the brain can change
00:12:35.180 if you treat it right.
00:12:36.200 so this reliance on medications that we have is is a real poverty of the spirit a real poverty
00:12:44.600 of imagination a poverty of medical education the average doctor never learns this stuff the
00:12:50.120 average physician never gets a single lecture on brain development how the brain develops
00:12:54.160 in interaction with their environment so when you're seeing and let alone do they hear about
00:12:58.180 trauma they don't hardly at all right so when they see an adult with adhd or depression or addiction
00:13:04.960 or bipolar conditions or, for that matter, autoimmune illness or anything else,
00:13:13.660 they don't think of trauma.
00:13:14.740 They just think of this disease.
00:13:17.020 And they think that the diagnosis explains everything,
00:13:19.680 but the diagnosis don't explain anything.
00:13:22.000 Because think about it.
00:13:23.820 Let's say Gabor or Joe goes to a doctor and they're diagnosed with ADHD.
00:13:30.240 Well, what are the hallmarks of ADHD?
00:13:36.480 Well, tuning out, poor impulse regulation, maybe hyperactivity.
00:13:40.940 Why does Gabor have poor impulse control, hyperactivity, and tuning out?
00:13:46.320 Because he's got ADHD.
00:13:47.920 How do we know he's got ADHD?
00:13:49.480 Because he's got poor impulse control and tunes out, and he's hyperactive.
00:13:54.060 Why is he hyperactive, tunes out, have poor impulse control?
00:13:57.020 He's got ADHD.
00:13:58.100 How do we know he's got ADHD?
00:13:59.160 you know it doesn't it's circular it doesn't explain it doesn't explain anything diagnosis
00:14:04.400 describe things and that there that can be helpful that way well you're giving me adhd 1.00
00:14:09.660 with how slow you talk you make everybody tune out of the stream boring ass fucking 0.99
00:14:13.520 but they don't explain yeah one of the things that people get so they get 0.99
00:14:19.860 they get treated for and they get diagnosed with is anxiety yeah and that one
00:14:28.020 anxiety yeah it drives me nuts because people pretend that anxiety is a disease yeah it's not
00:14:33.160 and i'm like my god the world should make you anxious if you're a sensitive introspective
00:14:37.960 person if you're just looking at the world itself and you you don't put it in perspective like the
00:14:42.880 world's it's filled with anxiety the anxiety is it's future problem solving you're you're thinking
00:14:48.960 about all the things that can go wrong you're thinking about your life in a you know potentially
00:14:51.660 devastating way and that's not a disease that's just the way you look at the world and people
00:14:55.740 getting diagnosed with it? Well, I won't quite agree with you on that one. In what way? I've
00:15:01.320 felt anxious at times. Sure. The world every day is the same. The world is the same, but the way
00:15:05.560 you look at it is not the same, right? That's the whole point. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So the
00:15:07.920 world is giving you anxiety. No, the world is not giving me anxiety. Right. You're giving yourself
00:15:11.460 anxiety by looking at the world, right? By how I look at the world. Yes. Because I can look at the
00:15:14.700 same world one day and feel grounded and connected and I may have all kinds of concerns about what's
00:15:19.040 happening in the world, but my nervous system won't be on edge. Yes. I won't be anxious. That's
00:15:22.620 my point is that it's not a disease oh my god can you guys stop obsessing over this shit we're all 0.99
00:15:26.700 fine it isn't the disease right so remember i talked about those brain circuits of lust and 0.97
00:15:30.160 care and rage and uh and and and seeking and so on one of the main circuits that we have
00:15:34.780 is described this is one of joe rogan's favorite topics bro he can go on and on about adderall
00:15:38.820 and adhd every single podcast bro it's just okay what's what's the debate bro prominent it's not
00:15:44.600 real it's not real yeah thanks up is for panic and grief panic and grief are the normal responses
00:15:50.000 of the young human being
00:15:51.140 or the young animal
00:15:51.860 when care isn't available.
00:15:54.500 So when the parents are stressed,
00:15:56.220 distracted,
00:15:57.180 economically or politically.
00:15:58.900 I forgot it's sped up.
00:15:59.640 I can really even still talk faster
00:16:00.900 than this since it's at 1.5.
00:16:02.060 They don't resolve trauma
00:16:02.880 or whatever's going on in their lives.
00:16:04.500 And they don't respond
00:16:05.300 to the child's distress.
00:16:06.280 They don't pick up the child
00:16:07.260 when they're crying.
00:16:08.400 They make the child be alone
00:16:09.440 when the child is upset.
00:16:11.060 The child's panic circuits
00:16:12.460 get activated,
00:16:13.500 as they should be,
00:16:14.500 because when the child's
00:16:15.140 panic circuits get activated,
00:16:16.200 they cry for help.
00:16:17.380 So it's necessary for survival.
00:16:18.840 Does that sound normal?
00:16:19.520 should feel panic when the adult is unavailable in a rational world in a sane world that child
00:16:28.700 would be responded to but when children as in our society are not responded to in their distress
00:16:34.820 the panic becomes built into their nervous system and now you have a lot of anxious people
00:16:39.820 and that's why more more kids are being valued you're right it's not a disease it's a response
00:16:45.000 to the environment and the thought process of like leaving a child alone when the child's crying
00:16:51.740 is that to toughen the kid up is the thought process that you don't want to encourage this
00:16:58.300 sort of behavior because then they'll do it all the time and then you'll develop an indulgent
00:17:03.980 child like what is the thought process the thought process is that the child's behavior is the problem
00:17:10.180 and so we have to fix the behavior by controlling it now actually the opposite is true because
00:17:18.960 if you pick up the child when a child i don't care anymore okay that's it joe and cool alex
00:17:25.560 jones tells all he was on steven crowded today his lawsuit the great reset and cover-ups chat i
00:17:31.620 was just reading the great reset today really good book so far i don't want to give a full
00:17:35.320 synopsis of it because i'm only like 20 30 pages and really good so far and it tells it's talking
00:17:41.540 about the future of the world and how they're slowly trying to use flowery language and brainwash
00:17:46.040 us to think that this is a good thing but pretty soon we're literally going to be in the matrix
00:17:49.380 we are literally going to be plugged up they say neural link is going to attach it to your brain
00:17:53.200 they want a new world that they fully control they want to give us they want to take all the
00:17:58.240 power they don't want us to own anything they want to have everything and we are just slaves 0.99
00:18:02.340 while they go do whatever the fuck they want to do, 0.99
00:18:04.240 which is touching kids on islands. 1.00
00:18:10.420 That's it.
00:18:10.840 This is your job?