SNEAKO - August 24, 2024
LETTER FROM BOSNIA
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Length
1 hour and 16 minutes
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145.1852
Summary
The story of this country is almost parallel to what's happening in Israel and Palestine right now and America and the rest of the world needs to know about it. This country is a story of genocide, survival, and most importantly, God. I spent over a week here interviewing war heroes, widows, grandmothers, and saw some of the best hospitality I've ever seen across the world.
Transcript
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This country is a story of genocide, survival, recovery, and most importantly, God.
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I spent over a week here interviewing war heroes, widows, grandmothers,
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and saw some of the best hospitality I've seen across the world.
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The story of this country is almost parallel to what's happening in Israel and Palestine right now.
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And America and the rest of the world needs to know about it.
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So right here is the first mosque built in Sarajevo.
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And everything else was built around this right here.
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He was gracious enough to show me his diary that he wrote during the war.
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We sometimes don't think how much we are blessed, you know, because you have everything.
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And as a kid, you were in one spot waiting for someone to help you.
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In a way, the war is over and dreaming about peace.
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Like, for example, unfortunately now in Palestine, which is happening right now.
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He seemed at peace with everything that happened for somebody that grew up during a genocide.
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You could walk around and have no idea that there was warfare here only three decades ago.
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But politics is, you know how the politics goes.
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If the people of Bosnia learned to forgive and forget, then the people in the streets
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You have to tell me why fuck Serbia and then I know why.
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But maybe you meet someone and you say to him, I love Serbia.
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I needed to see more than just this guy's diary.
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I want to interview some of the genocide survivors here.
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Honestly, like my dad is probably the best because he fought in the war.
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This is the kickstreamer cheeser and the only Bosnian I know.
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One thing out of respect, please just don't have my grandma on the stream.
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If like this, because this is probably going to go through, just don't have my grandma on there.
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I kept the sightseeing in Cerevo brief so I can make the three-hour car drive to Savitovici
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This is one of those experiences where you have absolutely no idea what to expect.
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He told me the story that you came to America with no money.
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And when we go to pick it up, I go pick it up, Spomenka and army.
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But nothing because they were under the ground, you know.
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She has to run over the street because of the sniper, you know.
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Because it was like a street, like a, let's say like a 10 feet wide, you know.
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She has to run because of the sniper, you know.
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They couldn't like protect that because the cars, you know, go during night, you know.
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And from the hospital, again, in the basement in our building.
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And that's how we was like, I think like almost 11 months.
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And we have like a four-story building with four entries.
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And 13 times the grenade hit just that building.
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And when she was pregnant, Mimi told you, she was sleeping, you know, like, you know.
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And I see like a day, like a bombing, you know, the town.
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I just go in the hallway and grenade come through the ceiling, everything.
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Just like 15 seconds, you know, she get out from the house, from my apartment.
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When did you decide to come to the United States?
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But I couldn't, they had like a young, I wasn't old at that time, you know, like a 24-year-old.
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But they didn't accept me for some reason, you know.
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No, no, no, here, Bosnia Army, to stay, like, after war, you know, you can be like a, you know, like a soldier, you know, like, yeah.
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And I didn't get it, and I didn't have choice, you know.
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Because too many, too many applications, you know.
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And I didn't get it, and I decided no job, you know, kid, you know, baby, and you just decide go to America.
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And how long were you in the U.S.A. before you came back to Bosnia?
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First time I got, like, some money, I go visit my family.
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I mean, I don't know how I can tell you, you know.
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But this is my country, you know, in my heart, you know, still.
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But still, I appreciate them, you know, they take us, you know, give us opportunity, you know, what I can say.
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Yeah, you fought for this country, so you fought.
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It's different, you know, when you fight for something.
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So during the war, did the Christians fight too with you guys or no?
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I got one of my friends, we worked like the same street.
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He got the biggest award from the Bosnian army, you know.
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He's Catholic, you know, but I can tell him, you know.
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You know, he fight for, you know, Bosnian army, you know.
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Do you hold any resentment for these countries or for these leaders or have you moved on?
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You wanted to try to show where it was like a friend?
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This house, like, I get, like, cracked because grenade was full behind this house.
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So grenades came in this house and you repaired the house?
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You can live here if you want it, you know, if it's easier for you.
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When we started the war with HVO, like, we started, like, right there in the middle of the town.
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Everything, like, a whole line, like, we fight inside the city and we clean it up.
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But they were, like, most of them on edges, those mountains.
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You know, it's like a, you see, they can see everything, like, like this.
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And sniper tried to, like, four guys of mine, they tried to kill us.
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But we had our Yugoslavia gun was better than AK-47.
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That's the light, you know, and very easy to shoot with that.
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Other side, not here, like, when they tried to get in the city.
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You weren't scared to come back to Bosnia after three years in the United States?
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Fresh, you know, like, we just pick it up the plums.
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And Mimi told me, you call him Mimi or Nermin, my son?
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How many people from this area do you think survived in the war?
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How many of them survived and how many of them were casualties in the war?
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People are different than in America and Europe.
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Here, what you can feel, you cannot feel nowhere in the world.
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When they, like, take you, like, call you, hey, come to my house or something, they give
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you everything that's possible to make you comfortable, you know?
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But we are like a, how can I, let me say, like a, we are so friendly, you know?
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And, like, to meet people, not like I close the door, you know, your neighbor or stuff like that.
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He's going to change into pants because you can't pray with shorts on.
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It's about time for Maghrib and then we're going to have food.
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It was one of those places I never thought I would be.
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But seeing the way he describes it, you get to see.
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When he was on the balcony there, you get to picture the war that happened here only three
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You could see it in his eyes and the way he describes it.
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Looking now, it's crazy how quickly things can change from grenades going off and mines
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going off, people's legs being blown off to a place that's very livable.
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Things can change and things can turn around a lot quicker than we really realize.
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What we heard from these two interviews so far is that people of different faiths can coexist
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We saw that they called it the Jerusalem of Europe beforehand.
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He was saying that they coexisted well with the Orthodox and the Catholic people.
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But then the people in charge, the Serbian leader who wanted to take over Europe, the
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communists came in and the HVO, people who were corrupted by greed, they're the ones who
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People of different faiths can coexist fine until power gets involved.
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Can I ask you, because this town is very traditional, you know, you come from a war-torn
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What do you think about the world that myself and your son are involved in, the streaming
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But even if he's not born here, but he feels Bosnia.
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But do you like streaming, Twitch, kick, this stuff?
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You know, like, because of the casting, stuff like that, I don't like it.
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But I can say, the world is like that, you know?
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There's a streamer at the, I'm just doing an interview about, video about Bosnia.
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I was born in 2005, and I think, in 2005, or 2006, at the end of 2005.
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And it's, this place is called Zabidović, and it's a really small town.
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It's, it was in a really bad position during the aggression in Bosnia during the 90s when
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the Orthodox Serbs attacked us, and people were in a really bad position.
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They were, uh, starved, they were killed with grenades and, uh, artillery, artillery fire.
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Well, um, there isn't so much, um, tourist attraction in this town.
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Bosnia in a global, uh, is a multicultural state.
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And, for example, I watched you, uh, how we wear the Bosnian jersey.
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And you cannot walk with that in, for example, the city of Doboy, which is near.
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They'll probably be attacked or something like that.
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So do they consider themselves Bosnian or Serbian?
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During the aggression, they wanted to exterminate the Muslims.
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Before dark, you can see over there, like, they made, like, names.
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Like, uh, soldiers dying during the war over there.
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And you can see that, like, a big, like, a rock, you know, and names on it.
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The best thing, your favorite thing about Bosnia?
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I wanted, I invited Cheezer to come on this trip.
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I know I have Serbian friends from their perspective.
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They say, you try to get Islamic Republic here.
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You like something and keep you away from there.
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They can make even, if they have to be here, let them be here.
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Not like, they just make to people hate each other more and more.
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Regular people, they're not that bad, you know.
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Even like, they say, oh, they're going to kill you.
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What do the Bosnians think about what's happening in Israel and Palestine?
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Even my son, he told me, you know, he's so happy you visited me.
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I think we're going to get the around-ish of time.
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Thank you so much to Cheezer and thank you so much to Refet.
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This is some of the best hospitality that I've received ever in my life, I have to admit.
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I'm feeling like I'm about to pass out on this car ride, but there's a lot more to unpack here
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and a lot more to see about Bosnia tomorrow and later tonight.
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I think we just scratched the surface about what this country is really about, and we've got to get to the truth.
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You see, this is her oldest son, and he was killed as well.
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13 years afterwards, when she buried him, they located his head, his skull.
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And they added it to the grave last year, in the past year, is that right?
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I had five sons and one daughter, one son died before the war.
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She raised four of them, married them, built home houses for them.
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And her daughter is now living in Sweden with her husband and kids.
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In that moment, it felt like her memories were also my memories.
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Like, these weren't just pictures of strangers, but of my own family.
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These moments are so personal, I didn't want to talk about Bosnia and the war.
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You cannot do anything. You can blame them. There are some of them who are in court and in prison, but in the end they are alive and we are missing our loved ones. They are killed.
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Now, when it is on the 11th and before the war, Bratunac is amazing with Mladićev and Haradićev. They are still alive.
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So, in the days before the 11th of July, you can see many posters and big pictures of Mladić in Bratunac.
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That you can see your heart when you go and see it.
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Well, it is so hard to see it when you pass it. Your soul wants to get out of your body.
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That's the expression that she uses of all the pain that she feels when she sees something like that.
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She says that everyone lost someone from their home.
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When I went to home, she ate a lot of Dusimafunal Minarets, I Grand池Cafatih, and her son sent me to see his mother and said,
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So there is a picture of her in Istanbul, in one of the mosques that had many minarets that she says and people are praying and they are reciting Al-Fatih for her soul and there is a guy that said, come on, I've been to her house, I know she is alive, she says, well, I don't know about me.
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She has to bring my mother to me and see that I am alive. She has almost 15-20 days.
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She loves me, she says something, she says something, she says something, she says something, she says something, she says something, she says something.
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This guy has to bring his mother here to show her that she is alive.
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So they met and that's his way to explain and make sure not to recite Al-Fatih for her.
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How this picture was taken, in the first year of her return, they were laying, how do you say it, the stone for the foundations of something, for the memorial center.
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No, no, like the, there is a ceremony that you put the stone when you try to.
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So in the second year afterwards, they designed the look of the.
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And it was famous in many newspapers all over the world.
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When we were in our hotel, this picture, but big.
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She looks much more beautiful in real life than in the photo.
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She says that you look better now than in real life.
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I was the husband who bought it up in the fight.
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It's a place where she lost her son here in the fighting.
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You can marry these, for example, medical technicians.
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She says if she had a grandson, she would take some of the employees here from the chef.
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It seems like everybody in Bosnia lost a lot of people, and so it's difficult to overcome wartime.
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It's just like when you have people, that's all they think about.
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The pictures, the memories are surrounded by it.
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So I wanted to talk to them about finding potential wives.
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And I don't know if you understood, but the lady here, she kept trying to set me up with the employee who was making us coffee.
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So there was a visit from some Turkish guys and they took one girl.
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When they captured the Ba'asians, she was telling that her grandsons were forced to drink alcohol.
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That has nothing to do with houses or land or anything.
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That's just trying to corrupt the soul of a pure person.
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drink the alcohol, they take the bottle, smash your teeth
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this? You know what I mean? The same thing's happened
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They have the same playbook. They force the Uyghurs
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the same playbook that they use against the Muslims
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The lady here, she had more books of her family
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Not the most exciting, but it's necessary to see.
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Just saying, like, what he does is very admirable.
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they live here because the village is two hours away
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people started identifying differently and the Bosniak identity was sort of suppressed and it
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was suppressed for the next 70 years. For almost 100 years it's as if we didn't exist at all.
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After 19... from 1907 to 1990 is when the war started. That's when the Bosniak identity
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came about 30 years ago. Okay why was the Bosnian identity suppressed?
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The Europe wouldn't, the Christian Europe would not accept the organized indigenous Muslim European population in this area.
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So is it possible to say that the reason the Bosniak were suppressed was simply because they're Muslim?
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And remember, they don't accept the European Muslims as a religious community.
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They accept the Muslims as a politically organized community.
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They're not... Europe does not mind Muslims existing as the religious community.
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They mind them existing as the organized political community.
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What's wrong with the organized political community of the Muslims?
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We are the majority of the people in Bosnia and Herzegovina and which according to all of the international laws means that we have this country as our own, basically.
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And Europe... we heard... Europe does not want to accept that.
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How does it affect Europe? Why is it a problem? Why is it a problem in Europe?
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One day the Netherlands might become majority Muslim or something like that.
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One day the Netherlands might become majority Muslim or something like that.
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What's wrong with that? He understands. Why? Why is that wrong?
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Europe was set out by the Christian foundation.
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And it's very difficult for it to accept differences.
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Because the Muslims here... I've spent a week here.
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What are they afraid of when it comes to Islam and Bosniaks?
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So they've been trying to scare Europeans by saying that it's...
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So if that's a lie, which they know it is, what are they threatened by by Islam specifically?
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So they are threatened mostly by... common fog is mostly threatened by radicalism or the image that they have of Islam of being some Bedouin tribes that are slaying people with their teeth or something like that.
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So they think it's some kind of wilderness and the lack of civilization that's coming with Islam together.
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The ruling class, once it's gone, probably because they are threatened by the organized structure of Islam and everything else.
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However, Bosniaks are starting to sort of break these stereotypes, especially in Europe and United States and all of those things,
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considering we have people in the House of Lords in the United Kingdom.
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We have people in the government of the Netherlands.
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We have people in the government of the United States, especially Bosniaks,
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and they are sort of starting to break these stereotypes of what Muslims are and what Muslims should be.
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Can these religions coexist in Europe? Because I know Bosnia, they call it European Jerusalem.
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Definitely, we have fegued thisalar and when we have been the mostuche, we have been out of deveu.
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And it's agile inside the wilderness from the crowds you need to forward in nature.
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Thepect that we need to develop completely around.
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always be a part of life, a part of tolerance, a part of life, a part of religion, and all the four
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godomolje that, as he says, there is a Jerusalem, there is a part of the Stare Church, and the
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Stare Church, and the Katedral of the Katolinsk, and the Synagogue, and the Ljostaloga, and our
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Caravara and Begova džamija, which is to show the dominance of multikulture.
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It's definitely a reality that after the war, all of these relationships between different religions have been sort of harmed to an extent, however, the spirit of multicultural Sarajevo is still sort of progressing even in this time today, which is
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evident from the existence of the churches, from the existence of the old synagogue, from the existence of all of these different religions that have existed in Sarajevo.
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It is something that needs to be worked on, which is evident from the works that the Islamic community of Bosnia-Herzegovina has been doing here, which is fostering this sort of relationship between different religions and different religious organizations in Bosnia-Herzegovina.
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You have no one of the same words in Bosnia-Herzegovina.
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Not a single mosque in Bosnia-Herzegovina that had any harsh, radical or extremist war today.
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The dirt keeps getting in my eyes because I'm trying to be cool and not have the shield.
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There's a Bosnian myth that if you drink from the fountain, you're going to come back to Bosnia.
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If you drink it twice, then you're going to get married in Bosnia.
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One moment in which he needed to step up and start defending his country.
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And he finished Gazi Husrebek's Medresa, which is high school here.
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And then he had to make some very tough decisions.
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And he believed that one year of war is worth ten years of regular life.
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And when he was 23 years old in 1993, he became a commander of the battalion.
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And he was coming up with very important and strict decisions.
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And he was coming up with very important and strict decisions.
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And everything was in accordance with all the conventions.
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And with them, what did the missionary teach us?
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But luckily, it was, of course, it was in conjunction with all of these different conventions.
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Whether it's Geneva Convention or what our Prophet has taught us.
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Even though our people went through horrible crimes, horrible war crimes committed against it.
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Genocide and all of these things, we never returned with the same force.
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And all the courts in the world have finally shown that we have been truly acting in accordance with these conventions.
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Even though there were some single-out commanders that they were trying to sort of frame for some crimes.
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But that was just an attempt of the European community to equalize all these crimes.
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Sometimes when I'm speaking about this first phase of the aggression towards Boston.
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And today, when you're hearing those little Palestinian girls, what do they say?
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And today, when you're hearing those little Palestinian girls, what do they say?
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Every day they're waiting for their own bullet.
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After, on average, 320 grenades are falling a day on Sarajevo.
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And he started organizing the help towards Bosnia and Herzegovina.
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First time since the disappearance of the Hilafa, of the Muslims,
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we finally managed to bring all of the Muslim countries together
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favorite in the eyes of all Muslims around the world.
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And especially when you, Muslims, coming from the West,
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I have talked to a few days on a Turkish television
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He was speaking for a Turkish television the other day
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and calling for all Muslims to help in any way that they can help.
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If they can't do anything, if they don't have any power in their hands that they can make it do at least.
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And the Muslim world has to sort of correct that injustice that's being committed over the Palestinian people
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who are leading you and making sure that your helmets are on
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pain came back to god and came back to islam so quickly out of this atheist sort of thinking and
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everything else that has existed here and as you can see all of the mosques today in the for juma
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prayers all of the mosques are full even today for isha prayer the mosques are full and people are
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coming in and going out so who's to blame for the war was it the communists is it the serbians
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and the great serbian uh great creation and the great serbian sort of ideas and ideologies in which
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bosnia should become part of those those those world and uh and the deal that is existing between
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lošević and tujman to divide bosnia into how were the the enemy forces like because we've traveled
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we've seen some horrific things we've seen the the firing lines we've seen the grave sites and from
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the way people describe it it was genocide it was terrible and it doesn't seem like it was it was
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justified at all it seems like it was they were taking houses that they didn't even use
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why were they what was it as evil as people are describing
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you can talk about it for days uh in the during the war especially they came the first time
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was that bosnia acts in here actually remainder of the turks that came in here and that they are all to be
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exterminated and kicked out of here and at the most when once you once you actually look at it look
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look at the way it was functioning and everything else the the first the first uh thing that they did was
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pillage and steal things then they tried to do this say the state and the other part was killing
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conquest and the sadism too which they organized these camps and everything else and most of the
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places in which they did these things where the people actually just gave themselves in and turned
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themselves into them and then that's when they decided to sort of do all these sadistic things to
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them rape and just just abuse in the most horrible ways possible and just sort of use this hate he also
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believes that uh that serbs are to this day learning some things that are you know hateful towards
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muslims and all of those things and uh yeah and in the battlefield he believes that they were cowards
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and they didn't they didn't they didn't live up to the expectations of the true warriors
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is it possible if you can show us the video you've shown before him doing the taklir
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is it possible jel moguće da pokažete namo na video gjerste štite pokazival prije kama takbirato
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The second battalion is engaged in the brigade of the brigade.
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The commander, were you a commander here or a soldier here?
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We want to make sure that we are never going to be victims again.
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We want to clearly show that we are never going to be victims again.
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What was the most important thing you learned in the war?
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What was the most important thing you learned in the war?
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He was alone in the Chetting territory, in the enemy territory, Serbian territory.
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The most important thing were to do 20 degrees.
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At night, the minuses were up to minus 20 degrees.
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Imagine, when you go to that time, you go to four days and four nights without any water, without any water, without any water, without any water or anything like that.
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If it's up to God to survive, you're going to survive.
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For me, it was an action in which I have lived as a jekin.
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That action for him was truly jekin in his faith.
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Which is jekin is the term that is true understanding of faith.
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That is the best way to explain that is when Musa is telling his Lord.
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We, as Muslims, always in our faith we have the last question.
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And us Muslims always the last question that we have is often how does God do all of those things?
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I have lived through that and understood that in a way that, and explained it to myself in a way that it's only because God is so merciful.
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And when I became aware that I actually survived all of that, I did the sujud there, in the clean, in the prayer on the pure Bosnian soil.
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And the sweetness of that sujud I never felt until today again.
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And that is the moment of gratitude to God for another chance.
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We just arrived in the Bosnian village, avoided the thunder and the rain.
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This looks like a Minecraft village, but we have not eaten in a while.
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This looks like it's been preserved for a long time.
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Maybe they didn't want to take, because there is no people here.
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so it seems like this village was untouched during the war it was a refuge i don't know
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why they didn't come here because if i wanted to seize land i would definitely see something like
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this but at the same time this could all be new even though it looks like it could be old it's
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like all this was built by hand in a way i think it's a little bit sad that you see the kids know
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me from tiktok here because i want this place to be untouched by the outside world to have zero
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it still reaches here but it's it's clearly a sanctuary away from the noise
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how are you where are you from the uae i am from kuwait uae assalamualaikum from kuwait thank
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you so kind i know i need the date do you have date that's how you're supposed to eat it right
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with the sweet okay bismillah yes man muslim jadeed why are you in bosnia
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for nature for what nature nature nature first time here no no 10th time 10th time oh okay
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one two three yes yes your dad didn't want to give interview oh because he doesn't like camera
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he doesn't no he likes to be recorded that he doesn't like to talk about war oh okay okay
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because he was in the war um a soldier at 17. he was a soldier at 17. yes oh okay have you seen pictures
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of him in the war yeah it's hard to talk about the war yeah what has he told you about the war
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he's a hero he's a hero you have a strong dad uh they burned his house in the uh over here
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village village yeah where he lived before yeah and then uh he was in the war because in point
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sadistan yeah wasn't attacked before uh 1993. so he must have bad memories yeah but he's still strong
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he said that's that's very good oh yeah he also saved that guy they left everybody left him but
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he went and saved he went and saved the guy did he lose any legs or arms he's okay
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he's been really hurt and all of his soldiers he's been there laughing but my dad and he's there put him
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on back on back and on his back yes and he carries him that must be really heavy how far did he have
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to walk with him i don't know he just told he saved somebody and uh and my father is say that man is
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been two meters tall two meters tall yes that's taller than me wow strong guy you got a good dad
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but i understand he doesn't want to talk about it here let's take picture let's take picture what's your
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name mirza what's your name i told him before i forgot summer here like this fight pose
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next year summer it's unfortunately time to go and i just learned that there's no electricity here
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they don't have fridges there's no lights just generators sunlight living completely off of the
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land this is what it's like to be a minecraft villager what it's like to be away from civilization
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so don't come here do not come to bosnia if you're weird if you're annoying if you don't believe in
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god stay away this is the sanctuary for people that are based
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in the quran it teaches that death is inevitable that it's a part of life and something that we're
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supposed to embrace something that the muslim is supposed to think about every day while the
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disbeliever fears death thinking it's the end the believer knows that it's only a part of life
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bosnia is scattered with death perhaps making the people appreciate life more i became comfortable
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with death in bosnia there's something very comforting about a place with friendly ghosts