SNEAKO - LETTER FROM BOSNIA

00:00:00 One, two, three.

00:00:02 Shtayvah! 0.86

00:00:07 Welcome to Basia. 0.92

00:00:17 This country is a story of genocide, survival, recovery, and most importantly, God.

00:00:22 I spent over a week here interviewing war heroes, widows, grandmothers,

00:00:26 and saw some of the best hospitality I've seen across the world.

00:00:29 The story of this country is almost parallel to what's happening in Israel and Palestine right now.

00:00:34 And America and the rest of the world needs to know about it.

00:00:36 I hope you enjoy this documentary about Basia.

00:00:53 So right here is the first mosque built in Sarajevo.

00:00:56 And everything else was built around this right here.

00:01:00 So this is the first one.

00:01:01 First in Bosnia or Sarajevo?

00:01:03 First in Sarajevo.

00:01:03 I'm one of the first in Bosnia.

00:01:05 My family is from Sarajevo originally.

00:01:07 My whole life I live here.

00:01:10 I was seven when the war started.

00:01:11 What year did the war start?

00:01:13 Aggression on Bosnia started in April 1992.

00:01:15 This letter starts with Adnan Gunzidovich.

00:01:18 He's a Bosnian tour guide and a war child.

00:01:20 He was gracious enough to show me his diary that he wrote during the war.

00:01:23 We sometimes don't think how much we are blessed, you know, because you have everything.

00:01:30 And as a kid, you were in one spot waiting for someone to help you.

00:01:35 In a way, the war is over and dreaming about peace.

00:01:39 Like, for example, unfortunately now in Palestine, which is happening right now.

00:01:44 Yeah.

00:01:44 He seemed at peace with everything that happened for somebody that grew up during a genocide.

00:01:49 And so did everybody else in Bosnia.

00:01:51 You could walk around and have no idea that there was warfare here only three decades ago.

00:01:56 Were you able to find peace?

00:01:57 Today, is there still friction?

00:01:59 Is there still aggression?

00:02:00 Or is there peace in the Balkans?

00:02:02 Peace.

00:02:03 You see, that's peace.

00:02:03 You are traveling.

00:02:04 You are here.

00:02:05 You know, no war.

00:02:07 But politics is, you know how the politics goes.

00:02:11 There is no love from all sides.

00:02:13 It's about most of you.

00:02:15 If the people of Bosnia learned to forgive and forget, then the people in the streets 0.89

00:02:19 of Albania definitely did not. 1.00

00:02:21 But fuck Serbia. 1.00

00:02:22 You have to tell me why fuck Serbia and then I know why. 1.00

00:02:24 Serbia is stupid. 1.00

00:02:27 Goodbye, bro. 1.00

00:02:28 Goodbye, bro.

00:02:29 You can't say to everyone, I love Serbia.

00:02:31 Really?

00:02:31 It's that bad?

00:02:32 Yeah.

00:02:33 But I love everyone.

00:02:33 Is it like saying I love Israel in Palestine?

00:02:36 Yes.

00:02:37 But maybe you meet someone and you say to him, I love Serbia.

00:02:41 Maybe someone killed his father or his son.

00:02:44 Yeah, you're right.

00:02:44 You're right.

00:02:45 Actually, that's a good point.

00:02:46 I needed to see more than just this guy's diary.

00:02:48 I needed to see where the anger went.

00:02:50 I needed a war hero.

00:02:51 For a while, what do you need connects for?

00:02:52 I want to interview some of the genocide survivors here.

00:02:55 I'm like, I'm spending all day today.

00:02:56 Honestly, like my dad is probably the best because he fought in the war.

00:02:59 This is the kickstreamer cheeser and the only Bosnian I know. 1.00

00:03:04 Can I interview him today?

00:03:07 Honestly, yeah.

00:03:08 One thing out of respect, please just don't have my grandma on the stream.

00:03:11 If like this, because this is probably going to go through, just don't have my grandma on there.

00:03:14 Yeah, no problem.

00:03:14 I kept the sightseeing in Cerevo brief so I can make the three-hour car drive to Savitovici

00:03:18 to meet the family of a war hero.

00:03:20 This is one of those experiences where you have absolutely no idea what to expect.

00:03:33 He's coming.

00:03:34 Say hello.

00:03:34 How's it going?

00:03:35 Just follow me.

00:03:36 As-salamu alaykum.

00:03:37 Bye.

00:03:38 Bye.

00:03:50 This is Muhammad Ali and this is Abdul Wahab.

00:03:56 So they both make dawah videos all Islam. 0.89

00:03:59 This is Waze.

00:04:00 He's my assistant filmer.

00:04:02 Oh, okay.

00:04:03 Not Muslim yet, but soon inshallah. 0.98

00:04:05 Welcome, guys.

00:04:05 Thank you.

00:04:06 Thank you.

00:04:09 Get inside.

00:04:09 Get inside, guys.

00:04:12 Who's here?

00:04:12 Yeah.

00:04:15 This is my mom.

00:04:17 She doesn't see.

00:04:18 She's asking, are you tired?

00:04:19 No, not tired at all.

00:04:21 Good.

00:04:22 Take him to the room.

00:04:23 Please.

00:04:24 Yeah.

00:04:28 Please, guys.

00:04:34 Thanks so much for having us.

00:04:36 We appreciate it.

00:04:36 No problem.

00:04:37 We have a vacation.

00:04:39 I'm so glad to be here.

00:04:44 Thanks.

00:04:45 Thanks.

00:04:49 Guys, have a seat.

00:04:52 Or you can use this if you want.

00:04:54 If it better be for you.

00:04:55 Whatever you want.

00:04:56 This is perfect.

00:04:57 Yeah.

00:04:58 Yeah.

00:04:58 I think it's okay.

00:04:59 Okay, guys.

00:05:00 I got lemonade.

00:05:03 Homemade.

00:05:04 Like a lemonade.

00:05:05 Water.

00:05:07 Red Bull.

00:05:08 Lemonade, please.

00:05:09 Yeah.

00:05:09 Okay, I got a cold one.

00:05:11 You're from Bosnia your whole life? 1.00

00:05:13 Yes.

00:05:14 Yes.

00:05:15 Yes.

00:05:15 I'm from this town.

00:05:17 We like came in America like 1996 after war.

00:05:22 He told me the story that you came to America with no money.

00:05:25 No.

00:05:25 20, 20 dollars.

00:05:27 Yeah.

00:05:27 20 dollars, yeah.

00:05:28 And he told me he was born during the war.

00:05:31 Is that true?

00:05:32 Or his brother?

00:05:33 Oh, army.

00:05:34 Army.

00:05:34 You're his older brother.

00:05:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:35 Okay.

00:05:36 He was born in a basement actually.

00:05:38 Yeah, the basement during the war.

00:05:39 Basement in a hotel.

00:05:41 And when we go to pick it up, I go pick it up, Spomenka and army.

00:05:46 We just get in and grenade.

00:05:50 But nothing because they were under the ground, you know.

00:05:54 Big explosion.

00:05:55 Boom.

00:05:55 You know, so scary.

00:05:57 And then we have to run.

00:05:58 She has to run over the street because of the sniper, you know.

00:06:02 Me and my wife.

00:06:03 And I carried the army, you know.

00:06:06 Because it was like a street, like a, let's say like a 10 feet wide, you know.

00:06:11 She has to run because of the sniper, you know.

00:06:14 They couldn't like protect that because the cars, you know, go during night, you know.

00:06:19 But we didn't have choice.

00:06:20 You got to get out.

00:06:21 Too many injuries, you know.

00:06:23 You just like a, get baby, get out, you know. 0.90

00:06:26 No place to stay.

00:06:27 Hallways, everything was full.

00:06:30 You know, it was a hard time.

00:06:31 And from the hospital, again, in the basement in our building.

00:06:36 And that's how we was like, I think like almost 11 months.

00:06:42 Because we were surrounded all the way.

00:06:45 And you couldn't sleep in your apartment.

00:06:48 And we have like a four-story building with four entries.

00:06:56 And 13 times the grenade hit just that building.

00:07:00 13 times.

00:07:02 And when she was pregnant, Mimi told you, she was sleeping, you know, like, you know.

00:07:08 And I see like a day, like a bombing, you know, the town.

00:07:12 And I told her, get out, you know. 1.00

00:07:13 I'm sleeping, get out.

00:07:15 I just go in the hallway and grenade come through the ceiling, everything.

00:07:20 In the house?

00:07:21 In the room where she was sleeping.

00:07:23 While she was pregnant.

00:07:24 Yeah, it was scary.

00:07:26 Just like 15 seconds, you know, she get out from the house, from my apartment. 1.00

00:07:33 That's what's scariest.

00:07:35 When did you decide to come to the United States?

00:07:36 I tried to stay in the army.

00:07:41 But I couldn't, they had like a young, I wasn't old at that time, you know, like a 24-year-old.

00:07:47 But they didn't accept me for some reason, you know.

00:07:50 The U.S. Army?

00:07:51 No, no, no, here, Bosnia Army, to stay, like, after war, you know, you can be like a, you know, like a soldier, you know, like, yeah.

00:07:59 And I didn't get it, and I didn't have choice, you know.

00:08:02 Why didn't they accept you?

00:08:04 Where?

00:08:05 Why they didn't accept me here?

00:08:07 To the army here, yeah.

00:08:08 Because too many, too many applications, you know.

00:08:11 And I didn't get it, and I decided no job, you know, kid, you know, baby, and you just decide go to America.

00:08:18 And how long were you in the U.S.A. before you came back to Bosnia?

00:08:22 Three years.

00:08:24 That's it?

00:08:24 Yeah, that's it.

00:08:25 First time I got, like, some money, I go visit my family.

00:08:29 You came right back.

00:08:30 Oh, yeah.

00:08:30 You don't like America?

00:08:32 I mean, I don't know how I can tell you, you know.

00:08:36 I appreciated everything they did.

00:08:38 But this is my country, you know, in my heart, you know, still.

00:08:41 For all my life, it's going to be like that.

00:08:43 But still, I appreciate them, you know, they take us, you know, give us opportunity, you know, what I can say.

00:08:48 You know, that's all.

00:08:51 Yeah, you fought for this country, so you fought.

00:08:53 Yes, yes, yes.

00:08:54 Yeah, it's different.

00:08:55 Yeah, I didn't run away, like you said, yeah.

00:08:58 It's different, you know, when you fight for something.

00:09:00 But it's sad when you fight and you leave.

00:09:03 That's the sad part, you know.

00:09:05 So during the war, did the Christians fight too with you guys or no?

00:09:10 Yes, some of them, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:09:12 Well, a lot of them ran away.

00:09:13 I got one of my friends, we worked like the same street.

00:09:17 He got the biggest award, you know.

00:09:22 Did I say right?

00:09:23 Like an award?

00:09:24 Like a for fighting?

00:09:25 Award, award, yeah.

00:09:26 Award, yeah.

00:09:27 He got the biggest award from the Bosnian army, you know.

00:09:32 He's Catholic, you know, but I can tell him, you know.

00:09:34 You know, he fight for, you know, Bosnian army, you know.

00:09:39 He was like a good guy, good guy.

00:09:43 Do you hold any resentment for these countries or for these leaders or have you moved on?

00:09:48 Just moved on.

00:09:50 You wanted to try to show where it was like a friend?

00:09:52 Sure, yeah.

00:09:52 That's what I'm saying.

00:09:53 Try to be for dark.

00:09:54 Yeah, I was just taking that.

00:09:59 I can't explain how close they were, you know.

00:10:02 So grenade came, not in this house, no?

00:10:06 This house, like, I get, like, cracked because grenade was full behind this house.

00:10:12 So grenades came in this house and you repaired the house?

00:10:14 This house, I bought it 2008.

00:10:19 You can live here if you want it, you know, if it's easier for you.

00:10:30 Okay.

00:10:32 When we started the war with HVO, like, we started, like, right there in the middle of the town.

00:10:46 Everything, like, a whole line, like, we fight inside the city and we clean it up.

00:10:55 But they were, like, most of them on edges, those mountains.

00:10:58 And they shoot directly, you know, actually.

00:11:01 Directly.

00:11:02 You know, it's like a, you see, they can see everything, like, like this.

00:11:06 Yeah.

00:11:07 And they fight from there with everything.

00:11:09 Air tanks, grenades, everything.

00:11:11 And sniper tried to, like, four guys of mine, they tried to kill us.

00:11:17 But thanks God, nobody gets killed here.

00:11:20 Alhamdulillah.

00:11:21 What gun were you using?

00:11:22 I like it, like, AK-47.

00:11:26 Yeah.

00:11:26 That's, for me, the best.

00:11:28 The Russian one. 0.94

00:11:28 Yeah, it's, like, a close fight.

00:11:30 But we had our Yugoslavia gun was better than AK-47. 0.60

00:11:34 But it's, like, a close, that I say, AK-47.

00:11:38 That's the light, you know, and very easy to shoot with that.

00:11:42 Do you still have it?

00:11:44 No.

00:11:45 Because that's for the armor.

00:11:47 All right.

00:11:48 So you climbed...

00:11:48 Can you stop a little bit?

00:11:50 Stop what?

00:11:51 Filming?

00:11:51 Yeah, just...

00:11:52 Yeah, of course.

00:11:53 Turn it off.

00:11:53 When they tried...

00:11:54 Ways.

00:11:54 Other side, not here, like, when they tried to get in the city.

00:11:58 3,000 range.

00:11:59 Boom, boom, boom.

00:12:00 Everything, like, in the smoke, you know what?

00:12:04 All right here.

00:12:05 Let's go.

00:12:08 Here is your car.

00:12:09 It's still hot.

00:12:19 You weren't scared to come back to Bosnia after three years in the United States?

00:12:22 No.

00:12:23 You weren't scared at all?

00:12:24 Then you got your mom, your brother here.

00:12:26 No, but this time I told you.

00:12:28 Yeah.

00:12:29 98%.

00:12:30 You got to be scared.

00:12:31 Yeah.

00:12:32 Yeah, you got everything here.

00:12:33 Slomenka.

00:12:34 Morning.

00:12:35 We go walk around.

00:12:37 We prepare the food.

00:12:38 Okay.

00:12:38 Yeah.

00:12:40 And we pick it up some plums.

00:12:41 Fresh, you know, like, we just pick it up the plums.

00:12:44 This is not ready yet.

00:12:45 And Mimi told me, you call him Mimi or Nermin, my son?

00:12:49 Oh, Cheezer.

00:12:50 Cheezer, yeah.

00:12:51 Never mind.

00:12:51 I forget.

00:12:52 Okay.

00:12:52 Yeah.

00:12:53 Mimi.

00:12:55 He called himself when he was little.

00:12:57 Mimi.

00:12:58 Yeah.

00:12:58 I saw his name on the wall.

00:13:00 Mimi on the sailboat.

00:13:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:13:02 You have bad handwriting, Cheezer.

00:13:06 That's the plums.

00:13:08 I think it up for 12 years.

00:13:10 Started driving the truck.

00:13:13 Can I ask you a difficult question?

00:13:15 Yeah.

00:13:16 How many people from this area do you think survived in the war?

00:13:21 Survived?

00:13:22 Yes.

00:13:23 What percentage?

00:13:25 Oh, you mean by the sites?

00:13:28 The people that were native to this city.

00:13:30 Oh.

00:13:30 How many of them survived and how many of them were casualties in the war?

00:13:35 It's too many injured people.

00:13:38 No legs.

00:13:39 I got, you know, to bring my friend.

00:13:40 He lost the legs to here.

00:13:42 Yeah.

00:13:42 I just been with him last night.

00:13:44 Yeah.

00:13:45 I take him to the sea, you know.

00:13:47 You know, I respect him.

00:13:49 Of course.

00:13:49 His whole family with me, you know.

00:13:51 And do something good.

00:13:53 Too many, like, legs we lost, you know.

00:13:56 Legs?

00:13:56 Legs.

00:13:57 Because of the mines.

00:13:58 And grenades.

00:13:59 Yeah.

00:13:59 It was mostly mines.

00:14:00 Mines.

00:14:01 Most of mines.

00:14:02 It's a really nice majid here.

00:14:03 Yeah.

00:14:04 Well, they made it, yeah.

00:14:05 They made it after the war?

00:14:06 After the war.

00:14:07 After.

00:14:07 It's beautiful.

00:14:08 It is beautiful.

00:14:10 Do you want to pray Maghreb and majid?

00:14:12 Yeah, I go with you, but I have to get rest.

00:14:14 Oh, right.

00:14:14 You need to.

00:14:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:14:15 Okay.

00:14:16 And down there, like, I shop.

00:14:18 What do you love about Bosnia?

00:14:19 We've been talking about a lot of negatives.

00:14:21 And things that happened in the past.

00:14:23 But you came back for a reason.

00:14:25 People are different than in America and Europe. 0.57

00:14:31 Here, what you can feel, you cannot feel nowhere in the world.

00:14:35 My opinion.

00:14:36 I agree.

00:14:37 I agree.

00:14:37 When they, like, take you, like, call you, hey, come to my house or something, they give

00:14:43 you everything that's possible to make you comfortable, you know?

00:14:47 It's kind of like the Arabic hospitality.

00:14:49 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:50 Kind of.

00:14:50 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:51 They're just like that.

00:14:53 We're not close to everybody else in Europe.

00:14:55 They're different, you know?

00:14:57 But we are like a, how can I, let me say, like a, we are so friendly, you know?

00:15:05 And, like, to meet people, not like I close the door, you know, your neighbor or stuff like that.

00:15:11 Ciao, ciao.

00:15:12 Ciao, ciao.

00:15:12 Mm-hmm.

00:15:15 Yeah, you see this?

00:15:17 This lady just passed by. 0.99

00:15:20 She's like a Christian. 0.96

00:15:21 She's full time here.

00:15:23 Okay.

00:15:25 Catholic or Orthodox?

00:15:27 Orthodox.

00:15:28 Okay.

00:15:28 All the time here.

00:15:29 And you get along?

00:15:32 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:33 Alhamdulillah.

00:15:33 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:34 Oh, mashallah.

00:15:35 Yeah.

00:15:35 All the time.

00:15:36 Mashallah.

00:15:37 We're walking.

00:15:37 Okay, we wait here.

00:15:38 We're walking.

00:15:39 Okay.

00:15:40 So we're waiting now.

00:15:42 He's going to change into pants because you can't pray with shorts on.

00:15:45 It's about time for Maghrib and then we're going to have food.

00:15:49 This is interesting.

00:15:50 It was one of those places I never thought I would be.

00:15:52 I can't even pronounce the name of this town.

00:15:54 But seeing the way he describes it, you get to see.

00:15:57 When he was on the balcony there, you get to picture the war that happened here only three

00:16:02 decades ago.

00:16:03 You could see it in his eyes and the way he describes it.

00:16:06 Looking now, it's crazy how quickly things can change from grenades going off and mines

00:16:10 going off, people's legs being blown off to a place that's very livable.

00:16:14 Soccer fields and New Majid and everything.

00:16:16 Things can change and things can turn around a lot quicker than we really realize.

00:16:20 What we heard from these two interviews so far is that people of different faiths can coexist

00:16:24 until greed from the politicians corrupts it.

00:16:28 They were fine.

00:16:28 They were coexisting fine.

00:16:30 We saw that they called it the Jerusalem of Europe beforehand.

00:16:33 He was saying that they coexisted well with the Orthodox and the Catholic people.

00:16:36 But then the people in charge, the Serbian leader who wanted to take over Europe, the 1.00

00:16:42 communists came in and the HVO, people who were corrupted by greed, they're the ones who

00:16:48 ruined the unity.

00:16:48 People of different faiths can coexist fine until power gets involved.

00:16:59 Can I ask you, because this town is very traditional, you know, you come from a war-torn

00:17:06 background, obviously.

00:17:07 What do you think about the world that myself and your son are involved in, the streaming

00:17:11 internet American world?

00:17:13 I like how Nermin acted.

00:17:17 He was born over there.

00:17:19 Cheezer.

00:17:20 Yeah, Cheezer.

00:17:21 Mimi.

00:17:21 But he got Bosnia here. 0.98

00:17:23 He does.

00:17:24 You see how he acted?

00:17:25 He gets pissed.

00:17:27 Somebody tells him something about it.

00:17:28 And he protects.

00:17:29 But even if he's not born here, but he feels Bosnia.

00:17:33 That's good.

00:17:34 You know?

00:17:34 That's good.

00:17:36 Do you like the streaming world?

00:17:38 I can hear the Adan, yeah.

00:17:40 But do you like streaming, Twitch, kick, this stuff?

00:17:45 I don't, but I can say.

00:17:46 Yeah.

00:17:47 You know, like, because of the casting, stuff like that, I don't like it.

00:17:51 But I can say, the world is like that, you know?

00:17:55 Yeah.

00:17:56 Everything is go upside down.

00:18:00 I like old-fashioned life.

00:18:01 Mm-hmm.

00:18:08 There's a streamer at the, I'm just doing an interview about, video about Bosnia.

00:18:27 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:27 So, do you like it here?

00:18:29 I love Bosnia.

00:18:29 Yeah.

00:18:30 Tell me a little bit here.

00:18:31 Come talk.

00:18:31 Let me, we're making a video.

00:18:32 Let me ask you some more things.

00:18:34 And then he moves here when?

00:18:34 I was born in 2005, and I think, in 2005, or 2006, at the end of 2005.

00:18:47 And it's, this place is called Zabidović, and it's a really small town.

00:18:56 It's, it was in a really bad position during the aggression in Bosnia during the 90s when

00:19:03 the Orthodox Serbs attacked us, and people were in a really bad position.

00:19:10 They were, uh, starved, they were killed with grenades and, uh, artillery, artillery fire.

00:19:19 Well, um, there isn't so much, um, tourist attraction in this town.

00:19:25 In this town, no.

00:19:26 Bosnia in a global, uh, is a multicultural state.

00:19:30 And, for example, I watched you, uh, how we wear the Bosnian jersey.

00:19:36 Mm-hmm.

00:19:36 Soccer jersey, football jersey.

00:19:38 And you cannot walk with that in, for example, the city of Doboy, which is near.

00:19:45 You can't walk with that?

00:19:46 No.

00:19:46 It's all Serbs there? 1.00

00:19:47 Yes.

00:19:48 Okay.

00:19:48 They'll probably be attacked or something like that.

00:19:50 So do they consider themselves Bosnian or Serbian?

00:19:52 They call themselves Serbian.

00:19:55 In Bosnia?

00:19:56 Yes.

00:19:57 Yeah, they have this idea of greater Serbia.

00:19:59 They want to unite all Serbs in one state. 0.52

00:20:02 Yes.

00:20:02 Yeah.

00:20:02 The same idea from the leader.

00:20:04 Yeah.

00:20:04 Okay.

00:20:05 And they wanted to exterminate. 0.99

00:20:06 During the aggression, they wanted to exterminate the Muslims. 0.93

00:20:09 Before dark, you can see over there, like, they made, like, names.

00:20:13 Like, uh, soldiers dying during the war over there.

00:20:16 Yeah.

00:20:17 And I can show you that.

00:20:18 Is it far away?

00:20:19 No, right here.

00:20:20 Maybe we go now before it's dark.

00:20:21 When I was a little boy, this is my school.

00:20:23 This is your school here?

00:20:24 Yeah.

00:20:25 So they didn't bomb it?

00:20:25 After that, I get uniform.

00:20:28 Here too, you know, because of...

00:20:30 Uniform for the war.

00:20:31 This right here.

00:20:32 Yeah.

00:20:32 And you can see that, like, a big, like, a rock, you know, and names on it.

00:20:39 Too many of my friends and family.

00:20:41 Do you know everybody here in the town?

00:20:43 No, no.

00:20:44 No.

00:20:44 Because they come from other places. 0.98

00:20:46 They know me.

00:20:47 You know who's here?

00:20:48 Like, all the time, everyone I know.

00:20:51 Because it's a small town.

00:20:52 The warrior flag?

00:20:53 Yes.

00:20:55 The best thing, your favorite thing about Bosnia?

00:21:01 The food?

00:21:05 Yes.

00:21:05 Okay.

00:21:06 I'm hungry.

00:21:07 I wanted, I invited Cheezer to come on this trip.

00:21:09 He didn't, or Mimi to come.

00:21:10 He didn't want to come.

00:21:11 He said he couldn't go because of the kick.

00:21:14 He couldn't come.

00:21:14 Because of the kick?

00:21:15 Yeah.

00:21:15 But he could stream when he's here.

00:21:17 I told him.

00:21:18 I don't know.

00:21:18 I stream when I'm here in the hotel.

00:21:20 See?

00:21:21 I told him you can stream from everywhere.

00:21:23 No, I can't, Daddy.

00:21:24 But, I don't know, for some reason.

00:21:27 He said, next year, next year.

00:21:29 I don't know why he changed mind.

00:21:32 I know I have Serbian friends from their perspective.

00:21:35 It's the Bosnian people's fault. 1.00

00:21:37 Oh.

00:21:38 They blame you on the war.

00:21:40 Oh, yeah.

00:21:40 Of course.

00:21:41 Of course.

00:21:42 They say, you try to get Islamic Republic here. 0.87

00:21:46 Wow.

00:21:46 They're killing civilians so easy.

00:21:49 They have no feelings.

00:21:50 Oh, yeah.

00:21:53 Not bad to me.

00:21:54 Oh.

00:21:54 After war, it was worse for the food.

00:22:04 Because nobody's sending the food anymore.

00:22:08 Nothing working.

00:22:08 In fact, you're not working.

00:22:10 You cannot make money.

00:22:11 You cannot make the cost of living.

00:22:14 You can't do anything.

00:22:15 And I didn't have a choice.

00:22:17 You know, I tried, tried.

00:22:18 So sad, you know.

00:22:20 After war, you fight.

00:22:22 You go through the hell.

00:22:26 You're already exhausted.

00:22:27 And then you have to fight again.

00:22:28 Just go.

00:22:29 What does being Bosnian mean to you?

00:22:31 What does it mean?

00:22:32 Everything.

00:22:34 Everything.

00:22:36 I can cry when I think, talk about that.

00:22:38 Yeah.

00:22:40 It's so sad, you know.

00:22:41 You like something and keep you away from there.

00:22:44 You know, it's hard.

00:22:46 But still, they fight so bad, you know.

00:22:49 These politicians.

00:22:50 They can make even, if they have to be here, let them be here.

00:22:56 Let's make us some war. 0.57

00:22:57 Not like, they just make to people hate each other more and more.

00:23:03 Politicians.

00:23:04 Regular people, they're not that bad, you know.

00:23:07 But they make them, you know, scared.

00:23:09 Even like, they say, oh, they're going to kill you.

00:23:11 And then you think, you got kids.

00:23:13 Oh, I stay there.

00:23:14 On my side.

00:23:15 That's how they separate people.

00:23:17 But that's how people move from the village.

00:23:20 They move, move, move, move, move.

00:23:22 What do the Bosnians think about what's happening in Israel and Palestine?

00:23:26 Oh, that's what it is, brother.

00:23:29 Maybe we see each other again.

00:23:31 Thank you so much.

00:23:32 Thank you, guys.

00:23:34 Thank you very much.

00:23:36 Thank you, brother.

00:23:36 We'll never forget this place in heaven.

00:23:39 Oh, you've been amazing, brother.

00:23:41 Nico, appreciate it, brother.

00:23:43 I appreciate it.

00:23:44 You make me so happy.

00:23:45 Even my son, he told me, you know, he's so happy you visited me.

00:23:48 And that's respect.

00:23:50 Thank you so much for having us.

00:23:51 I appreciate it, guys.

00:23:51 I appreciate it.

00:23:52 Thank you, guys, very much.

00:23:53 Thank you very much.

00:23:54 So, I appreciate it.

00:23:54 Marlo, bless you.

00:23:55 I love you, guys.

00:23:55 Thank you very much.

00:23:57 Thank you.

00:23:57 We are now going back to Sarajevo.

00:23:59 It's about an hour and a half drive.

00:24:01 It's late.

00:24:01 I think we're going to get the around-ish of time.

00:24:03 Thank you so much to Cheezer and thank you so much to Refet.

00:24:05 This is some of the best hospitality that I've received ever in my life, I have to admit.

00:24:09 Food is delicious.

00:24:10 I'm feeling like I'm about to pass out on this car ride, but there's a lot more to unpack here

00:24:16 and a lot more to see about Bosnia tomorrow and later tonight.

00:24:19 I think we just scratched the surface about what this country is really about, and we've got to get to the truth.

00:24:25 Let's go home.

00:24:34 That's a red tiger.

00:24:35 Right, right, right.

00:24:37 I'm going to take a lot of droves.

00:24:40 Would have known from the start

00:24:44 Instead of waiting so long

00:24:47 To reveal what's behind

00:24:50 If you want, we can get inside of the center.

00:24:59 Sure.

00:25:00 Some of them are more comfortable speaking.

00:25:03 Some of them are not.

00:25:05 As-salamu alaykum.

00:25:06 I like your outfit.

00:25:07 How are you?

00:25:08 Okay, let's change some words with them.

00:25:10 Can you tell her I like her outfit?

00:25:11 She says that she likes how she's dressed.

00:25:14 I hear, where is she?

00:25:15 Yeah.

00:25:16 Yeah, these traditional...

00:25:18 How do you say beautiful in Bosnian?

00:25:20 Lijepa.

00:25:21 Lijepa.

00:25:22 Very Lijepa. 0.99

00:25:23 Sala.

00:25:24 Sala.

00:25:25 She says, thank you.

00:25:26 Of course.

00:25:27 Can I sit down?

00:25:28 Do you mind if I sit down here?

00:25:29 Yes.

00:25:30 Okay, thank you.

00:25:38 What did she say?

00:25:39 She wants to show you some pictures.

00:25:41 Okay.

00:25:42 It's in her room?

00:25:43 Yeah.

00:25:44 Yeah.

00:25:45 Okay.

00:25:45 You see, this is her oldest son, and he was killed as well.

00:25:53 13 years afterwards, when she buried him, they located his head, his skull.

00:26:00 His skull?

00:26:00 Yeah.

00:26:01 Yeah.

00:26:01 And they added it to the grave last year, in the past year, is that right?

00:26:06 Yeah, 14th.

00:26:08 I had five sons and one daughter, one son died before the war.

00:26:18 She was sick and ended. 0.65

00:26:21 She raised four of them, married them, built home houses for them. 0.99

00:26:28 And her daughter is now living in Sweden with her husband and kids.

00:26:35 It's good.

00:26:36 Dobro.

00:26:42 It was, you know.

00:26:50 In that moment, it felt like her memories were also my memories.

00:26:53 Like, these weren't just pictures of strangers, but of my own family.

00:27:05 These moments are so personal, I didn't want to talk about Bosnia and the war.

00:27:09 I just wanted to relive her memories with her.

00:27:11 3-3s over the war.

00:27:28 I'm telling the story. Thank you.

00:27:30 Who's to blame for the war?

00:27:58 You cannot do anything. You can blame them. There are some of them who are in court and in prison, but in the end they are alive and we are missing our loved ones. They are killed.

00:28:12 Now, when it is on the 11th and before the war, Bratunac is amazing with Mladićev and Haradićev. They are still alive.

00:28:27 So, in the days before the 11th of July, you can see many posters and big pictures of Mladić in Bratunac.

00:28:41 They are glorifying these crimes.

00:28:45 They are glorifying them? Yes.

00:28:47 That would be, that you can see your heart.

00:28:52 That you can see your heart when you go and see it.

00:28:57 Well, it is so hard to see it when you pass it. Your soul wants to get out of your body.

00:29:05 That's the expression that she uses of all the pain that she feels when she sees something like that.

00:29:12 It is hard, but what can you do?

00:29:17 What can you do?

00:29:27 She says that everyone lost someone from their home.

00:29:33 When I went to home, she ate a lot of Dusimafunal Minarets, I Grand池Cafatih, and her son sent me to see his mother and said,

00:29:41 don't please, I have been in the house alive!

00:29:46 So there is a picture of her in Istanbul, in one of the mosques that had many minarets that she says and people are praying and they are reciting Al-Fatih for her soul and there is a guy that said, come on, I've been to her house, I know she is alive, she says, well, I don't know about me.

00:30:06 She has to bring my mother to me and see that I am alive. She has almost 15-20 days.

00:30:13 She loves me, she says something, she says something, she says something, she says something, she says something, she says something, she says something.

00:30:22 This guy has to bring his mother here to show her that she is alive.

00:30:26 So they met and that's his way to explain and make sure not to recite Al-Fatih for her.

00:30:34 How this picture was taken, in the first year of her return, they were laying, how do you say it, the stone for the foundations of something, for the memorial center.

00:30:44 The grave.

00:30:45 No, no, like the, there is a ceremony that you put the stone when you try to.

00:30:51 That's what it is.

00:30:53 Oh, yeah, that's it.

00:30:55 So in the second year afterwards, they designed the look of the.

00:31:01 So this is her?

00:31:02 Yes, that's her.

00:31:04 I was running and running.

00:31:06 Someone was watching me.

00:31:07 She was fighting with police.

00:31:09 She was pushing them, etc. 1.00

00:31:10 So someone took this picture.

00:31:11 And it was famous in many newspapers all over the world.

00:31:17 I didn't know who was watching me.

00:31:19 She doesn't know who took the picture.

00:31:21 I was running and running.

00:31:23 I was trying.

00:31:24 And, uh.

00:31:25 That year, in March, I was the first one.

00:31:27 I was the husband.

00:31:28 I was the husband.

00:31:29 I was the husband.

00:31:30 I couldn't go before me.

00:31:31 So I couldn't go.

00:31:32 I couldn't go.

00:31:33 When we were in our hotel, this picture, but big.

00:31:37 Good.

00:31:38 Good.

00:31:39 Can you tell her?

00:31:40 She looks much more beautiful in real life than in the photo.

00:31:43 She says that you look better now than in real life.

00:31:47 Yeah.

00:31:48 Mashallah.

00:31:52 Smiles better.

00:31:53 Smiles better.

00:32:04 What's the best place in Bosnia?

00:32:06 Where is the best place?

00:32:07 Is it Sarajevo or Tuzla?

00:32:09 No, no Sarajevo.

00:32:11 Srebrenica.

00:32:13 Just Srebrenica, not any other place.

00:32:16 Yeah.

00:32:17 My brothers are from Srebrenica.

00:32:19 Yes, yes.

00:32:20 They like Srebrenica and Bratunica the most.

00:32:22 Not the other place.

00:32:23 I was the husband who bought it up in the fight.

00:32:28 It's a place where she lost her son here in the fighting.

00:32:32 That's it.

00:32:33 Can you say, I want to get married?

00:32:35 Do they know a nice girl? 0.74

00:32:37 Do you know a nice girl? 0.94

00:32:38 I want to get married.

00:32:40 He wants to get married.

00:32:42 He asks him how she's fine.

00:32:44 He's not out there.

00:32:45 He's not out there.

00:32:46 He's not out there.

00:32:47 You can marry these, for example, medical technicians.

00:32:50 They are the best.

00:32:51 They are the best.

00:32:58 She says if she had a grandson, she would take some of the employees here from the chef.

00:33:07 They are the best.

00:33:08 They are the best.

00:33:09 They are the best.

00:33:10 Let's drink.

00:33:11 Do you need sugar or something?

00:33:13 Yeah, the Bosnian way. 0.86

00:33:14 You go like this.

00:33:15 Yeah.

00:33:16 And then...

00:33:17 Oh! 0.60

00:33:18 Look at this.

00:33:19 How do you drink?

00:33:20 How do you drink?

00:33:21 How do you drink?

00:33:22 How do you drink?

00:33:23 Bosnian way.

00:33:24 You don't need a spoon?

00:33:25 No, no.

00:33:26 Okay.

00:33:27 This is our son.

00:33:28 These are from America.

00:33:29 She's praising her.

00:33:30 I don't have a son.

00:33:31 I would take her right away.

00:33:32 I don't have a son.

00:33:33 I would take her right away.

00:33:34 Okay, so those are very difficult stories.

00:33:37 It seems like everybody in Bosnia lost a lot of people, and so it's difficult to overcome wartime.

00:33:58 I don't want to ask too much about war.

00:34:00 It's just like when you have people, that's all they think about.

00:34:02 The pictures, the memories are surrounded by it.

00:34:04 So I wanted to talk to them about finding potential wives. 0.97

00:34:07 Good things.

00:34:08 Good memories.

00:34:09 America, Bosnia.

00:34:10 And I don't know if you understood, but the lady here, she kept trying to set me up with the employee who was making us coffee. 1.00

00:34:15 So maybe she's single. 0.99

00:34:17 I don't know.

00:34:18 She got nice hair.

00:34:19 Thank you so much.

00:34:20 May Allah bless you.

00:34:21 Thank you so much for your story.

00:34:22 Yes.

00:34:23 Melissa! 0.87

00:34:24 Yes.

00:34:25 Oh, I'll talk to her.

00:34:27 Nice hair.

00:34:29 Yeah.

00:34:30 Melissa! 0.87

00:34:31 Melissa! 0.87

00:34:32 Are you married?

00:34:33 Who are you?

00:34:34 I don't know.

00:34:35 I don't know.

00:34:36 I didn't know.

00:34:37 I didn't know.

00:34:38 I didn't know.

00:34:39 I didn't know.

00:34:40 I didn't know.

00:34:41 What did you know?

00:34:42 So there was a visit from some Turkish guys and they took one girl.

00:34:48 She married.

00:34:49 Really?

00:34:50 And I'm saying, what are you doing now?

00:34:52 Yes.

00:34:53 It's not the first time that she did it.

00:34:58 Oh, okay.

00:34:59 Thank you so much for the coffee.

00:35:01 It was very nice.

00:35:02 She speaks very highly of you.

00:35:04 So do all of them.

00:35:05 Salaamu Alaikum.

00:35:06 Thank you.

00:35:07 May Allah bless you.

00:35:08 Thank you.

00:35:09 Bye.

00:35:10 Yeah.

00:35:12 Oh, they're growing here.

00:35:15 Yeah.

00:35:16 But this is another disaster.

00:35:17 When they captured the Ba'asians, she was telling that her grandsons were forced to drink alcohol.

00:35:23 What is the point of doing that in warfare?

00:35:25 That has nothing to do with houses or land or anything.

00:35:27 That's just trying to corrupt the soul of a pure person.

00:35:29 What does this remind you of?

00:35:31 it's like they don't want you

00:35:33 to have that attachment to Islam.

00:35:35 They want you to disassociate from your

00:35:37 Lord, disassociate from your religion. 1.00

00:35:39 They make you drink alcohol. After you

00:35:41 drink the alcohol, they take the bottle, smash your teeth

00:35:43 out. What is this, bro? What is

00:35:45 this? You know what I mean? The same thing's happened

00:35:47 to the Uyghurs in China.

00:35:49 You know, the same tactics over and over.

00:35:51 It's like they have a playbook.

00:35:53 They have the same playbook. They force the Uyghurs 1.00

00:35:55 to eat pork. They force them to

00:35:57 what do you call it? Drink alcohol.

00:35:59 You know, they force the pagan 1.00

00:36:01 men upon the Muslim women that are 0.99

00:36:03 chaste, you know, good women. 0.99

00:36:05 They force all that, everything that's evil

00:36:07 against Islam, they force them. 1.00

00:36:09 You know what I mean? And it's like

00:36:11 the same playbook that they use against the Muslims 1.00

00:36:13 over and over again, bro.

00:36:14 The lady here, she had more books of her family

00:36:17 and her past and Polaroid pictures

00:36:19 and a woman who took over her house 1.00

00:36:21 burnt all of her books and all of her

00:36:23 memories.

00:36:24 Why would you burn memories

00:36:26 of somebody's house that you just took?

00:36:28 What does that have to do with the war?

00:36:30 It's good versus evil.

00:36:32 It's time to go see

00:36:34 a gravesite.

00:36:36 Not the most exciting, but it's necessary to see.

00:36:39 This is what,

00:36:39 what's his name?

00:36:40 Rafet?

00:36:41 How did you say his name from yesterday?

00:36:44 Rafet.

00:36:46 I think you're saying it the Arabic way.

00:36:48 Anyway, we're going to the gravesite

00:36:49 and even Rafet yesterday

00:36:50 was telling us to go there.

00:36:52 It's about a three-hour drive from Sarevo.

00:36:53 So, haven't gotten much sleep,

00:36:56 but great food.

00:36:57 Thank you for the hospitality so far.

00:36:59 And I was glazing him off camera.

00:37:00 Pause.

00:37:01 Just saying, like, what he does is very admirable.

00:37:03 To do charity work like this,

00:37:04 it's very, it must be painful

00:37:06 to have to deal with this nonstop.

00:37:07 I see it as soon as the camera turns away,

00:37:09 he's like, man, it's just,

00:37:11 it's heavy.

00:37:12 This is heavy stuff nonstop.

00:37:13 So, a lot of props to him

00:37:15 and all the workers that are here.

00:37:17 And think about the kids.

00:37:18 The kids that live here,

00:37:20 they live here because the village is two hours away

00:37:22 and there's no schools there.

00:37:24 So, these villages were destroyed so much

00:37:26 that there's nothing.

00:37:27 There's no restaurants, really.

00:37:28 There's no,

00:37:29 even the reason we're eating here

00:37:30 is because there's no restaurants

00:37:31 almost three hours back to Sarevo.

00:37:33 Not the most exciting thing.

00:37:34 We're going to go to a gravesite,

00:37:35 but it's historical and it's important.

00:37:37 So, it's going to be interesting.

00:37:39 And this isn't just any gravesite.

00:37:42 Say what?

00:37:42 Remember Rafa?

00:37:43 Like, they set them up by sending them here.

00:37:45 Right.

00:37:46 And then the firing squad

00:37:47 and none of them had any weapons,

00:37:49 none of that.

00:37:49 They were set up

00:37:50 and they were all executed.

00:37:52 Yeah.

00:37:53 It's comparable to Rafa.

00:37:54 If you know about Palestine,

00:37:55 you know about Gaza.

00:37:56 They sent all the innocent civilians 1.00

00:37:57 to go to the safe zone called Rafa

00:37:59 and they just ended up bombing Rafa.

00:38:01 And this just happened a couple months ago.

00:38:03 But the gravesite we're going to see now

00:38:04 is almost parallel to that.

00:38:12 So, we are in the town of the gravesite.

00:38:26 It's just a ghost town.

00:38:27 There's no restaurants here.

00:38:29 There's nothing here.

00:38:30 There was smashed windows.

00:38:32 It was 30 years ago,

00:38:33 but they stayed strong

00:38:34 because they fought for this land.

00:38:35 They fought for this territory.

00:38:37 They said,

00:38:37 I'm not leaving.

00:38:38 I would leave personally.

00:38:40 But I understand why.

00:38:41 Maybe I would stay.

00:38:42 I haven't seen anything open.

00:38:43 I haven't seen anybody walking around.

00:38:44 There's no cars here.

00:38:45 There's a mosque

00:38:46 and there's a church

00:38:47 and there's a graveyard

00:38:48 and people living here.

00:38:50 Where's the club?

00:38:52 I don't know.

00:38:54 All the mosques 0.99

00:38:55 in Srebrenica,

00:38:57 in this town,

00:38:58 were all completely destroyed.

00:38:59 So, this one you see here

00:39:00 is actually new.

00:39:01 Every single mosque 0.89

00:39:01 was systematically destroyed.

00:39:03 Why would they destroy a mosque

00:39:04 in war?

00:39:04 What does that have to be?

00:39:05 Because if you destroy a mosque, 0.88

00:39:06 you destroy the people's home. 0.60

00:39:07 The cultural home.

00:39:08 The heart.

00:39:08 And so, you make them flee.

00:39:10 You know,

00:39:11 imagine if you destroy

00:39:11 everything that you loved.

00:39:12 Your religion, your deans.

00:39:13 You have no reason to stay.

00:39:14 You have no reason to stay.

00:39:15 And there was actually stories

00:39:16 in the war itself.

00:39:17 So, this place was under

00:39:18 a UN safe zone.

00:39:19 A protection zone.

00:39:20 And actually,

00:39:21 the Muslims were flooding the mosque 0.86

00:39:22 during this time. 0.95

00:39:24 And of course,

00:39:24 when the Serb forces

00:39:25 entered the city,

00:39:26 they rounded up the men

00:39:28 and they rounded up the women.

00:39:29 The women were actually 1.00

00:39:30 brought to rape camps.

00:39:31 Many of them being abused 0.65

00:39:32 so much in a way

00:39:33 that they couldn't even,

00:39:34 you know,

00:39:35 stand being alive.

00:39:36 And they actually wanted 0.99

00:39:37 to be killed. 0.79

00:39:38 Some actually committed suicide. 0.86

00:39:39 Some jumped off

00:39:40 and killed themselves.

00:39:41 And the men, of course,

00:39:42 were rounded up

00:39:43 and they were brought

00:39:43 in the fields

00:39:44 in the mountain passes

00:39:45 of Shrebrenica.

00:39:45 So, they were lined up

00:39:47 24-7.

00:39:48 They had to have shifts 1.00

00:39:49 to kill these people. 0.98

00:39:50 That's because they were 1.00

00:39:51 getting so tired

00:39:51 of beating them

00:39:52 and torturing them 1.00

00:39:53 and shooting them. 1.00

00:39:55 These animals, 1.00

00:39:55 sick animals.

00:39:56 What else is there to say? 0.98

00:39:59 And they fought over nothing.

00:40:00 Today, the city is

00:40:01 completely a ghost town.

00:40:02 They didn't even take

00:40:03 the territory that they

00:40:03 fought over.

00:40:04 There's no one here.

00:40:05 There's a dog.

00:40:06 That's it.

00:40:07 The only thing I see,

00:40:08 there hasn't been one car,

00:40:09 one person,

00:40:09 but you see a dog 0.99

00:40:10 licking his butt. 0.98

00:40:10 These are all 8,000. 0.99

00:40:15 Actually, 6,000

00:40:16 just buried here

00:40:17 from a single day.

00:40:19 In fact,

00:40:19 maybe a few days.

00:40:20 All of these graveyards,

00:40:22 all of these gravestones

00:40:23 you see around me

00:40:23 and they're still

00:40:24 finding people

00:40:25 after 30 years.

00:40:26 Some of these are new.

00:40:27 You can see they've just been dug up.

00:40:28 Exactly, yeah.

00:40:28 So, not too far from here.

00:40:30 I was actually burying.

00:40:31 Last month,

00:40:31 I was burying

00:40:32 and I was shoveling

00:40:33 and I was burying

00:40:33 the ruins

00:40:34 and the remnants of

00:40:35 some of the sky.

00:40:36 I can ask you,

00:40:36 why is there,

00:40:37 this grave is different

00:40:38 than the rest?

00:40:38 Yeah.

00:40:39 So, this is actually,

00:40:40 we all think that

00:40:41 only Muslims were killed

00:40:42 during the Bosnian war.

00:40:43 This was a Christian,

00:40:44 the first

00:40:45 and the only,

00:40:46 sorry,

00:40:46 the only Christian victim 1.00

00:40:48 of the Shrebanista genocide

00:40:49 and he was staying here

00:40:50 and the fact that he stayed

00:40:51 with the Muslims

00:40:52 was the reason why 0.99

00:40:53 they killed him.

00:40:54 So, you guess,

00:40:54 his grave is different

00:40:55 than the rest?

00:40:55 It's a special grave.

00:40:56 Everything else is

00:40:57 obviously Islamic oriented.

00:40:58 Here you have a cross.

00:41:00 Very unique graveyard

00:41:01 and as people

00:41:03 of the modern century

00:41:04 we're very lucky

00:41:05 to be able to witness

00:41:06 and see this grave.

00:41:08 I think the obvious

00:41:09 major takeaway

00:41:10 from this trip

00:41:11 and learning

00:41:11 the story of Bosnia

00:41:13 is that there can be unity

00:41:15 and there was here

00:41:16 from different faiths,

00:41:18 different ethnicities.

00:41:19 This wasn't just

00:41:19 a religious war,

00:41:20 this wasn't a political war.

00:41:22 I've asked everybody

00:41:22 and they always have

00:41:23 a different explanation,

00:41:24 different reason,

00:41:25 but it's just a clash

00:41:26 of different ideologies,

00:41:28 of different ideas

00:41:30 of nationalism

00:41:31 all in one place

00:41:31 and eventually

00:41:32 things get corrupted

00:41:34 by specific people in power.

00:41:36 Greed, politicians,

00:41:37 these things,

00:41:38 that's what disrupts

00:41:39 the people

00:41:40 because people can exist,

00:41:41 can coexist

00:41:42 with different faiths,

00:41:43 different ethnicities.

00:41:44 The Balkans,

00:41:44 this region,

00:41:45 you have the Croats,

00:41:46 before this was Yugoslavia,

00:41:48 you have the Bosniaks, 1.00

00:41:50 you have the Serbs, 0.98

00:41:52 all different types

00:41:52 of people,

00:41:53 the Orthodox Catholics

00:41:54 and they were living

00:41:55 together fine

00:41:56 until you get

00:41:59 the ideas of communism

00:42:00 and then eruption.

00:42:05 So, no one,

00:42:06 like, so far,

00:42:07 nobody's given

00:42:08 a specific explanation

00:42:09 about why this happened.

00:42:10 Israel-Palestine,

00:42:11 you can explain why.

00:42:12 Zionism, 0.95

00:42:12 that's the reason,

00:42:13 right?

00:42:14 You can just simply

00:42:15 explain it there.

00:42:16 Here, it's like,

00:42:17 there's, you know,

00:42:19 the Yugoslavian,

00:42:20 the communism,

00:42:21 post-war,

00:42:22 from the Soviet Union

00:42:23 after World War II

00:42:24 when something started.

00:42:25 It seems like

00:42:26 there was a genocide

00:42:27 and there was a war

00:42:28 that happened

00:42:28 for no reason at all

00:42:29 because nothing

00:42:30 happened afterwards.

00:42:31 They fought for this land

00:42:32 and they didn't even take it.

00:42:33 They didn't even use it.

00:42:35 They just wanted 0.98

00:42:35 to kill each other 0.83

00:42:36 and then nothing changed.

00:42:40 And now people

00:42:40 are still living,

00:42:41 still coexisting,

00:42:43 but with resentment,

00:42:44 with hate,

00:42:44 and with loss.

00:42:46 So, the lesson

00:42:47 I've learned from Bosnia

00:42:49 is that unity is possible.

00:42:52 Unity is possible

00:42:52 as soon as we can

00:42:53 get rid of greed.

00:42:54 So far in my time,

00:42:55 I understood the pain

00:42:56 and the impact of the war.

00:42:57 Nobody could give me

00:42:58 a straight answer

00:42:59 about what happened

00:43:00 and why.

00:43:01 On the last day,

00:43:01 I was lucky enough

00:43:02 to find a man named

00:43:03 Haran Hotic,

00:43:04 a war commander

00:43:05 and somebody who had known

00:43:05 the president of Bosnia

00:43:07 during the war.

00:43:08 He led soldiers into battle,

00:43:09 had a unique perspective

00:43:10 on what the Serbs

00:43:11 were actually like,

00:43:12 and was hiding

00:43:13 in enemy territory

00:43:13 in the cold

00:43:14 for three days

00:43:15 without food and water.

00:43:16 This was the interview

00:43:17 that I needed,

00:43:17 and this is the interview

00:43:18 that put everything

00:43:19 into perspective.

00:43:20 Are you from Sarajevo?

00:43:22 Are you from Sarajevo?

00:43:23 No, I'm from Sarajevo.

00:43:24 He's from Sanđak,

00:43:26 which is in Serbia.

00:43:27 My parents live in Sanđaku.

00:43:29 It's a part that

00:43:30 has been occupied

00:43:32 and occupied

00:43:33 and had never heard

00:43:34 that it's Serbian.

00:43:35 Sanđak is a territory

00:43:37 on which the Bosnians live.

00:43:38 Most of the Bosnians live there.

00:43:40 My parents lived there

00:43:41 and I grew up there

00:43:42 and came to Sarajevo

00:43:44 and was living in Sarajevo

00:43:45 in 1985.

00:43:46 So, he's from Sanđak region

00:43:49 of Serbia,

00:43:50 which is predominantly Bosnia.

00:43:52 Bosnia accent, Serbia.

00:43:53 Yes.

00:43:53 Okay.

00:43:54 And he doesn't want to say

00:43:55 that it's actually Serbian.

00:43:56 He wants to say

00:43:56 that it's occupied

00:43:57 by Serbia.

00:43:58 He considers it to be

00:43:58 occupied by Serbia 0.89

00:43:59 and he's been living

00:44:00 in Sarajevo since 1985.

00:44:01 So, that's it.

00:44:02 Okay.

00:44:03 So, you're from Bosnia?

00:44:06 Yeah.

00:44:07 It's the most beautiful country

00:44:13 I agree.

00:44:14 One of them.

00:44:15 Saudi is close.

00:44:17 So, the Bosnians were Muslim,

00:44:19 the Kroos were Catholic

00:44:20 and the Serbs were Orthodox.

00:44:21 When did they separate

00:44:22 after they were the same people?

00:44:24 When did they separate

00:44:25 after they were the same people?

00:44:27 When did they start to call

00:44:29 Serbs, Croatians, Croatians? 0.57

00:44:31 In 1907,

00:44:36 the king of SHS

00:44:39 was banned by Bosnian language.

00:44:42 And the nation

00:44:45 as Bosnian language

00:44:46 was banned by Bosnian language.

00:44:47 It was the moment

00:44:48 when we, as Muslims,

00:44:49 we were in the dominant

00:44:50 in this country

00:44:51 and after the First World War

00:44:52 the first time

00:44:53 the story was intensified.

00:44:56 And, literally,

00:44:57 we had to stop

00:44:58 and we were not to stop.

00:45:00 We were in 70-80 years

00:45:03 and we were not to be

00:45:04 the nation as we, as Muslims,

00:45:06 we were not to be able

00:45:07 to be able to be

00:45:07 as Bosnian language.

00:45:08 We were not to be able

00:45:09 to be able to be able

00:45:10 to be able to be able

00:45:11 to be able to be able

00:45:13 to be able to dock

00:45:14 and therefore we were able

00:45:16 to be able to do it.

00:45:17 So, in 1907

00:45:18 is when the Bosnian language

00:45:23 when the Serbs, Proats

00:45:25 and Slovenes kingdoms

00:45:27 was founded

00:45:29 Bosnian language

00:45:30 was canceled by the Decree

00:45:31 and it was forbidden

00:45:32 to be used.

00:45:33 And that's when those

00:45:34 sort of people started

00:45:36 people started identifying differently and the Bosniak identity was sort of suppressed and it

00:45:40 was suppressed for the next 70 years. For almost 100 years it's as if we didn't exist at all.

00:45:49 After 19... from 1907 to 1990 is when the war started. That's when the Bosniak identity 1.00

00:45:54 came about 30 years ago. Okay why was the Bosnian identity suppressed?

00:46:06 The Europe wouldn't, the Christian Europe would not accept the organized indigenous Muslim European population in this area. 1.00

00:46:23 So is it possible to say that the reason the Bosniak were suppressed was simply because they're Muslim?

00:46:36 100%. Absolutely.

00:46:38 Absolutely.

00:46:40 And remember, they don't accept the European Muslims as a religious community.

00:46:46 They accept the Muslims as a politically organized community.

00:46:50 They're not... Europe does not mind Muslims existing as the religious community.

00:46:54 They mind them existing as the organized political community.

00:46:58 What's wrong with the organized political community of the Muslims? 1.00

00:47:02 We are the majority of the people in Bosnia and Herzegovina and which according to all of the international laws means that we have this country as our own, basically.

00:47:30 And Europe... we heard... Europe does not want to accept that.

00:47:34 But how does that affect Europe?

00:47:36 How does it affect Europe? Why is it a problem? Why is it a problem in Europe?

00:47:41 One day the Netherlands might become majority Muslim or something like that.

00:47:46 One day the Netherlands might become majority Muslim or something like that.

00:47:50 What's wrong with that? He understands. Why? Why is that wrong?

00:47:54 So?

00:47:56 Yeah.

00:47:57 Europe was set out by the Christian foundation.

00:48:04 And it's very difficult for it to accept differences.

00:48:10 So do you think Europe is threatened by Islam? 0.61

00:48:14 Do you think Europe is a threat of Muslims?

00:48:18 Absolutely.

00:48:19 Absolutely.

00:48:20 Before a few years, no?

00:48:22 What are they threatened by?

00:48:24 Because the Muslims here... I've spent a week here.

00:48:26 Nice people, respectful, good hospitality.

00:48:29 Islam and Christianity have the same values.

00:48:32 What are they afraid of when it comes to Islam and Bosniaks?

00:48:36 So they've been trying to scare Europeans by saying that it's... 0.54

00:48:40 Radicals and terrorism. 0.97

00:48:42 But what is it about actual Islam?

00:48:44 So if that's a lie, which they know it is, what are they threatened by by Islam specifically? 0.83

00:48:49 So they are threatened mostly by... common fog is mostly threatened by radicalism or the image that they have of Islam of being some Bedouin tribes that are slaying people with their teeth or something like that.

00:49:08 So they think it's some kind of wilderness and the lack of civilization that's coming with Islam together. 1.00

00:49:14 The ruling class, once it's gone, probably because they are threatened by the organized structure of Islam and everything else. 1.00

00:49:21 However, Bosniaks are starting to sort of break these stereotypes, especially in Europe and United States and all of those things,

00:49:27 considering we have people in the House of Lords in the United Kingdom.

00:49:32 We have people in the government of the Netherlands.

00:49:34 We have people in the government of the United States, especially Bosniaks, 1.00

00:49:37 and they are sort of starting to break these stereotypes of what Muslims are and what Muslims should be.

00:49:41 Can these religions coexist in Europe? Because I know Bosnia, they call it European Jerusalem. 0.98

00:49:47 Can that still happen? Is it possible?

00:49:50 Can these religions live together in peace?

00:49:54 Because Sarajevo is called European Salomon.

00:49:58 Definitely, we have fegued thisalar and when we have been the mostuche, we have been out of deveu.

00:50:06 The stage of the first step is creative.

00:50:08 We have to have to devise it.

00:50:10 And it's agile inside the wilderness from the crowds you need to forward in nature.

00:50:14 Thepect that we need to develop completely around.

00:50:16 always be a part of life, a part of tolerance, a part of life, a part of religion, and all the four

00:50:23 godomolje that, as he says, there is a Jerusalem, there is a part of the Stare Church, and the

00:50:28 Stare Church, and the Katedral of the Katolinsk, and the Synagogue, and the Ljostaloga, and our

00:50:32 Caravara and Begova džamija, which is to show the dominance of multikulture.

00:50:39 It's definitely a reality that after the war, all of these relationships between different religions have been sort of harmed to an extent, however, the spirit of multicultural Sarajevo is still sort of progressing even in this time today, which is

00:51:09 evident from the existence of the churches, from the existence of the old synagogue, from the existence of all of these different religions that have existed in Sarajevo.

00:51:16 It is something that needs to be worked on, which is evident from the works that the Islamic community of Bosnia-Herzegovina has been doing here, which is fostering this sort of relationship between different religions and different religious organizations in Bosnia-Herzegovina.

00:51:28 Today there was a hudba. 0.98

00:51:30 Today there was a hudba in the Friday. 0.67

00:51:32 Two thousand mosques in Bosnia-Herzegovina.

00:51:35 Two thousand mosques in Bosnia-Herzegovina.

00:51:38 You have no one of the same words in Bosnia-Herzegovina.

00:51:43 Not a single mosque in Bosnia-Herzegovina that had any harsh, radical or extremist war today.

00:51:48 Alhamdulillah.

00:51:49 The dirt keeps getting in my eyes because I'm trying to be cool and not have the shield.

00:52:03 There's a Bosnian myth that if you drink from the fountain, you're going to come back to Bosnia.

00:52:14 If you drink it twice, then you're going to get married in Bosnia. 0.99

00:52:17 So...

00:52:26 It's official like a whistle.

00:52:27 Inshallah.

00:52:28 What was your role in the war?

00:52:30 What was your role in the war?

00:52:31 What was your role in the war?

00:52:32 I was a soldier.

00:52:33 He was a soldier.

00:52:35 Someone who had to defend himself in a moment.

00:52:40 Someone who recognized the moment.

00:52:43 One moment in which he needed to step up and start defending his country.

00:52:46 I was 22 years old.

00:52:48 He was 22 years old.

00:52:49 23?

00:52:50 22.

00:52:51 22.

00:52:52 22.

00:52:53 I ended Gazi Husrebek at Medresa. 0.82

00:52:56 And he finished Gazi Husrebek's Medresa, which is high school here.

00:53:01 And I was supposed to save human souls.

00:53:06 But he had to take guns.

00:53:07 And then he had to make some very tough decisions.

00:53:19 They were growing up overnight.

00:53:21 And he believed that one year of war is worth ten years of regular life.

00:53:30 And when he was 23 years old in 1993, he became a commander of the battalion.

00:53:38 And he was coming up with very important and strict decisions.

00:53:45 And he was coming up with very important and strict decisions.

00:53:47 And everything was in accordance with all the conventions.

00:53:50 It was also women. 0.99

00:53:51 And with them, what did the missionary teach us?

00:53:54 But luckily, it was, of course, it was in conjunction with all of these different conventions.

00:53:59 Whether it's Geneva Convention or what our Prophet has taught us.

00:54:02 Even though our people went through horrible crimes, horrible war crimes committed against it.

00:54:12 Genocide and all of these things, we never returned with the same force. 0.72

00:54:15 We never turned down churches.

00:54:18 We never killed civilians.

00:54:20 We never killed civilians.

00:54:22 We didn't rape women. 1.00

00:54:23 We didn't kill children.

00:54:25 And all the courts in the world have finally shown that we have been truly acting in accordance with these conventions.

00:54:45 Even though there were some single-out commanders that they were trying to sort of frame for some crimes.

00:54:51 But that was just an attempt of the European community to equalize all these crimes. 0.85

00:54:55 Sometimes when I'm speaking about this first phase of the aggression towards Boston.

00:55:02 With Gaza? 0.97

00:55:03 Yeah.

00:55:04 He's comparing it with Gaza.

00:55:05 I was going to ask that.

00:55:06 Yes, sir.

00:55:07 Yes, sir.

00:55:08 You see genocide in life.

00:55:09 And today, you're seeing genocide live.

00:55:10 And today, when you're hearing those little Palestinian girls, what do they say?

00:55:11 Where are you Muslims?

00:55:12 Around Sarajevo.

00:55:13 270,000 people.

00:55:14 Without water.

00:55:15 Without food.

00:55:16 Every day, they are every day.

00:55:23 And today, when you're hearing those little Palestinian girls, what do they say?

00:55:28 Where are you, Muslims?

00:55:33 Around Sarajevo.

00:55:37 270,000 people.

00:55:40 Without water.

00:55:42 Without food.

00:55:45 Every day they're waiting for their own bullet.

00:55:47 After, on average, 320 grenades are falling a day on Sarajevo.

00:55:57 You know what my first thought was?

00:56:00 You know what was the worst?

00:56:03 The feeling that we are left alone.

00:56:06 And where are you, Muslims?

00:56:10 After 92,

00:56:12 Muslim world has awoken.

00:56:13 And he started organizing the help towards Bosnia and Herzegovina.

00:56:26 First time since the disappearance of the Hilafa, of the Muslims, 1.00

00:56:29 we finally managed to bring all of the Muslim countries together

00:56:32 to make one communal decision about Bosnia.

00:56:35 And that's why Bosnia and Herzegovina 0.63

00:56:38 favorite in the eyes of all Muslims around the world.

00:56:43 And especially when you, Muslims, coming from the West, 1.00

00:56:54 come to us here,

00:56:55 you start to see Bosnia in different eyes

00:56:57 and start to do a bit differently in life.

00:57:02 I'm going to say that it's first and foremost

00:57:04 the

00:57:05 the

00:57:06 the

00:57:07 the

00:57:08 the

00:57:09 the

00:57:10 the

00:57:11 the

00:57:12 the

00:57:13 the

00:57:14 the

00:57:15 the

00:57:16 the

00:57:17 the

00:57:18 the

00:57:19 the

00:57:20 the

00:57:21 the

00:57:22 the

00:57:23 thing that happened with Bosnia

00:57:25 to what's happening in Palestine.

00:57:26 How can we all that happen in Bosnia 1.00

00:57:28 and how can we do it for Palestine?

00:57:31 I have talked to a few days on a Turkish television

00:57:34 on a public television.

00:57:35 I invite all the Muslims to help

00:57:39 in any way to help the Palestinians.

00:57:42 He was speaking for a Turkish television the other day

00:57:45 and calling for all Muslims to help in any way that they can help.

00:57:48 Every type of help is valuable.

00:57:51 If they can't do anything, if they don't have any power in their hands that they can make it do at least.

00:57:59 And the Muslim world has to sort of correct that injustice that's being committed over the Palestinian people

00:58:10 and bring back their sovereign.

00:58:12 Without that there is no peace for anyone.

00:58:15 One thing I don't like about these tour guide

00:58:18 ATVs is the speed limit.

00:58:20 The people that get to go in front and back

00:58:23 who are leading you and making sure that your helmets are on

00:58:25 they don't have the limit.

00:58:26 There's some switch here, something here

00:58:28 where you can unlock

00:58:30 the 150cc like Mario Kart.

00:58:32 Right now we're going 50cc

00:58:33 and we're still here.

00:58:34 I find a way to complain about a lot of things

00:58:37 but I just want to get to the mountains.

00:58:39 I want to see the village.

00:58:50 God give me everything.

00:58:52 I know you guys don't like this.

00:58:54 Alhamdulillah.

00:58:56 How are you able to be a Muslim and be at war? 1.00

00:59:07 Kako ste uspjevali da budete musliman

00:59:09 i da usto vrijeme budete u ratu?

00:59:12 Kad se borite za pravu stvar

00:59:14 nema tu postavljanja pitanja.

00:59:17 When you're fighting for the real thing

00:59:18 there's no questions there.

00:59:19 Allahova milost je prisuta na svakom koraku.

00:59:21 God's mercy is present in every state.

00:59:23 Ono što imate obovecu prema Bogu

00:59:25 iz kori ono kao u svakodnevnom životu

00:59:28 spunjavate.

00:59:29 What you have responsibilities towards God

00:59:31 you do with them on everyday.

00:59:33 Allah je taj koji olakšava

00:59:35 a koji ne otežava.

00:59:36 And he is the one who makes it easy

00:59:38 and doesn't make it more difficult.

00:59:39 I nismo imali poseban feeling

00:59:42 u ratu biti musliman je bilo specifično.

00:59:44 And you had a particular feeling

00:59:46 during the war being a muslim was special.

00:59:48 Another very important thing

00:59:50 Our nation in 1992 was

00:59:52 a tough atheist regime 1.00

00:59:54 of communism

00:59:55 and it was a little muslim.

00:59:57 Our people were oppressed

00:59:59 by the atheist communist regime

01:00:00 before.

01:00:01 There were very few muslims

01:00:02 true believers in Bosnia.

01:00:04 we were born of course

01:00:31 pain came back to god and came back to islam so quickly out of this atheist sort of thinking and

01:00:35 everything else that has existed here and as you can see all of the mosques today in the for juma

01:00:40 prayers all of the mosques are full even today for isha prayer the mosques are full and people are

01:00:45 coming in and going out so who's to blame for the war was it the communists is it the serbians 0.98

01:00:50 whose fault was the genocid

01:01:01 and the great serbian uh great creation and the great serbian sort of ideas and ideologies in which

01:01:30 bosnia should become part of those those those world and uh and the deal that is existing between 0.97

01:01:36 lošević and tujman to divide bosnia into how were the the enemy forces like because we've traveled

01:01:44 we've seen some horrific things we've seen the the firing lines we've seen the grave sites and from

01:01:49 the way people describe it it was genocide it was terrible and it doesn't seem like it was it was

01:01:54 justified at all it seems like it was they were taking houses that they didn't even use

01:01:59 why were they what was it as evil as people are describing

01:02:03 you can talk about it for days uh in the during the war especially they came the first time

01:02:09 of the war

01:02:13 was that bosnia acts in here actually remainder of the turks that came in here and that they are all to be

01:02:28 exterminated and kicked out of here and at the most when once you once you actually look at it look

01:02:46 look at the way it was functioning and everything else the the first the first uh thing that they did was

01:02:53 pillage and steal things then they tried to do this say the state and the other part was killing

01:02:59 conquest and the sadism too which they organized these camps and everything else and most of the

01:03:04 places in which they did these things where the people actually just gave themselves in and turned

01:03:08 themselves into them and then that's when they decided to sort of do all these sadistic things to

01:03:13 them rape and just just abuse in the most horrible ways possible and just sort of use this hate he also

01:03:20 believes that uh that serbs are to this day learning some things that are you know hateful towards 0.99

01:03:28 muslims and all of those things and uh yeah and in the battlefield he believes that they were cowards

01:03:34 and they didn't they didn't they didn't live up to the expectations of the true warriors 0.92

01:03:39 is it possible if you can show us the video you've shown before him doing the taklir

01:03:42 is it possible jel moguće da pokažete namo na video gjerste štite pokazival prije kama takbirato

01:03:47 haha može može što da ne

01:03:51 a voje transport moj jedinice helipot karon

01:03:54 skimari k proto

01:04:02 pato

01:04:07 paan

01:04:10 The first president came to visit his brigade.

01:04:40 The second battalion is engaged in the brigade of the brigade.

01:04:50 The commander, were you a commander here or a soldier here?

01:04:58 The commander here.

01:05:01 That's the president?

01:05:05 What's the name of the president?

01:05:08 The president was speaking.

01:05:10 He was saying...

01:05:14 Alija Izogluvić, first president.

01:05:16 This is a special man.

01:05:20 This is the man who is the enemy.

01:05:24 Alija Izogluvić, who is the doctor.

01:05:26 He was very old.

01:05:30 Alija said, and I was saying,

01:05:32 Tekvir.

01:05:34 The president was speaking.

01:05:36 We are speaking,

01:05:38 we are defender of our struggle for freedom.

01:05:43 I will speak with Behogluvić.

01:05:44 Elija Izogluvić...

01:05:45 It's putlined within GitHub U área.

01:05:47 The current mixtning is very UFC...

01:05:49 His name is your 7th group of Muslims. 0.87

01:05:53 Only you!

01:05:55 Allahu Akbar!

01:05:57 Only you!

01:06:03 I live in Sarajevo.

01:06:05 He was a G.

01:06:09 You were a G.

01:06:11 Gangster, probably.

01:06:13 Gangster? No, no, no.

01:06:15 This is my daughter.

01:06:17 My daughter.

01:06:19 This is her daughter.

01:06:21 When she gets married,

01:06:23 she's going to give her as a dowry G. 0.99

01:06:25 Gangster?

01:06:27 Yes.

01:06:29 When she gets married,

01:06:31 she's going to give her as a dowry G. 0.99

01:06:37 Gangster?

01:06:39 Yes.

01:06:41 Do you know why?

01:06:43 Why?

01:06:45 We want to send a difficult message.

01:06:47 We want to make sure that we are never going to be victims again.

01:06:51 We want to clearly show that we are never going to be victims again.

01:06:55 Inshalom. 0.85

01:06:57 What was the most important thing you learned in the war?

01:07:01 What was the most important thing you learned in the war?

01:07:03 The reliance on God.

01:07:07 I had one action.

01:07:09 He had one action.

01:07:11 He was alone in the Chetting territory, in the enemy territory, Serbian territory.

01:07:17 It was the December of 1992.

01:07:19 Minus.

01:07:21 The most important thing were to do 20 degrees.

01:07:23 At night, the minuses were up to minus 20 degrees.

01:07:27 Imagine, when you go to that time, you go to four days and four nights without any water, without any water, without any water, without any water or anything like that.

01:07:39 Three days and three nights completely alone.

01:07:41 Three days and three nights completely alone.

01:07:43 No food, no water?

01:07:45 No food, no water.

01:07:47 Winter.

01:07:49 No food, no water, no fire, nothing.

01:07:51 And you are alone with your Lord.

01:07:55 Only Allah. 0.91

01:07:57 Nothing.

01:07:59 If it's up to God to survive, you're going to survive.

01:08:06 For me, it was an action in which I have lived as a jekin. 0.97

01:08:11 As a belief.

01:08:13 There is a term.

01:08:14 Jekin.

01:08:15 That action for him was truly jekin in his faith.

01:08:19 Which is jekin is the term that is true understanding of faith.

01:08:23 That is the best way to explain that is when Musa is telling his Lord.

01:08:33 Lord, can I see you finally?

01:08:35 I believe, but let me see you.

01:08:38 Yes, I believe, but let me see you.

01:08:40 We, as Muslims, always in our faith we have the last question.

01:08:45 How does the Lord determine everything?

01:08:48 And us Muslims always the last question that we have is often how does God do all of those things?

01:08:53 How is God?

01:08:54 I have lived through that and understood that in a way that, and explained it to myself in a way that it's only because God is so merciful.

01:09:08 And when I became aware that I actually survived all of that, I did the sujud there, in the clean, in the prayer on the pure Bosnian soil.

01:09:23 And the sweetness of that sujud I never felt until today again. 0.95

01:09:33 And that is the moment of gratitude to God for another chance.

01:09:40 Thank you.

01:09:44 Thank you.

01:09:46 Thank you so much.

01:09:48 We just arrived in the Bosnian village, avoided the thunder and the rain.

01:09:52 This looks like a Minecraft village, but we have not eaten in a while.

01:09:55 It was a long trek over here.

01:09:57 And this is away from all of civilization.

01:10:00 I doubt there's internet connection here.

01:10:02 I doubt there's any McDonald's here.

01:10:05 This looks like it's been preserved for a long time.

01:10:08 I have no idea.

01:10:09 Can we, can I ride in the horse?

01:10:11 Yeah.

01:10:12 How much?

01:10:13 Ten.

01:10:14 Free for me.

01:10:15 Me.

01:10:16 Okay.

01:10:17 Bismillah.

01:10:18 Okay.

01:10:19 Come on, boy.

01:10:21 He's fast.

01:10:22 This is a fast horse.

01:10:23 Oh, man.

01:10:24 Hey, hey.

01:10:25 Good boy.

01:10:26 Good girl or boy?

01:10:27 Boy.

01:10:28 Grill.

01:10:29 Girl.

01:10:30 Grill.

01:10:31 Good grill.

01:10:32 Good grill.

01:10:33 Good grill.

01:10:34 Good grill.

01:10:35 Yeah.

01:10:36 Good grill.

01:10:37 Good grill.

01:10:38 Good grill.

01:10:39 How are you?

01:10:40 So?

01:10:41 Yeah.

01:10:42 Which one?

01:10:43 How much?

01:10:44 Free?

01:10:45 Graz.

01:10:46 Graz?

01:10:47 Yeah.

01:10:48 Alhamdulillah.

01:10:49 Nicolai.

01:10:50 Nicolai.

01:10:51 Nicolai.

01:10:52 Yeah.

01:10:53 You want one?

01:10:54 Here.

01:10:55 Tequila.

01:10:56 Tequila. 0.89

01:10:57 Muslim.

01:10:58 Muslim.

01:10:59 I mean Muslim.

01:11:00 You too.

01:11:01 You all Muslim. 0.63

01:11:02 Yeah.

01:11:03 Hey Muslim.

01:11:04 It's okay.

01:11:05 It's okay.

01:11:06 It's okay.

01:11:07 It's okay.

01:11:08 It's okay.

01:11:09 I want to be Muslim.

01:11:11 I'm a Muslim.

01:11:12 I'm a Muslim.

01:11:13 No Muslim, yeah. 1.00

01:11:14 Hey, Muslim. 0.99

01:11:15 Oh, there you go. 0.86

01:11:17 It's okay, it's okay.

01:11:18 No war here.

01:11:18 Havala.

01:11:19 No war here?

01:11:21 No.

01:11:22 Why not?

01:11:24 Why did the Serbs not come here?

01:11:26 I don't know.

01:11:28 You don't know?

01:11:28 Maybe they didn't want to take, because there is no people here.

01:11:32 Not houses like this.

01:11:34 Yeah.

01:11:35 What do Americans not know about Bosnia?

01:11:38 What I know.

01:11:39 You don't know?

01:11:40 I don't know.

01:11:40 Okay, Havala.

01:11:41 Thank you.

01:11:43 Okay.

01:11:46 Thank you very much.

01:11:47 Salaamu alaikum.

01:11:48 Salaamu alaikum.

01:11:49 I want you.

01:11:50 You want?

01:11:51 Yes.

01:11:51 What's your name?

01:11:52 Samir.

01:11:52 Nice to meet you, Samir.

01:11:54 You're.

01:11:55 Sneeko. 0.54

01:11:56 From America. 0.94

01:11:57 I've seen you on TikTok.

01:11:58 You have?

01:11:59 Yeah.

01:12:00 Oh, cool.

01:12:01 I've seen you on TikTok.

01:12:03 No, I haven't.

01:12:05 Not yet.

01:12:05 Are you?

01:12:06 I'm not playing on TikTok.

01:12:08 Okay.

01:12:09 I'm not playing on TikTok.

01:12:11 I'm not playing on TikTok.

01:12:12 I'm not playing on TikTok.

01:12:13 I'm not playing on TikTok.

01:12:14 Wait.

01:12:15 Oh, God.

01:12:16 Okay.

01:12:17 so it seems like this village was untouched during the war it was a refuge i don't know

01:12:26 why they didn't come here because if i wanted to seize land i would definitely see something like

01:12:29 this but at the same time this could all be new even though it looks like it could be old it's

01:12:33 like all this was built by hand in a way i think it's a little bit sad that you see the kids know

01:12:38 me from tiktok here because i want this place to be untouched by the outside world to have zero

01:12:43 influence of any of the zog machine 0.99

01:12:46 it still reaches here but it's it's clearly a sanctuary away from the noise

01:12:58 how are you where are you from the uae i am from kuwait uae assalamualaikum from kuwait thank

01:13:09 you so kind i know i need the date do you have date that's how you're supposed to eat it right

01:13:18 with the date oh okay

01:13:19 with the sweet okay bismillah yes man muslim jadeed why are you in bosnia

01:13:29 for nature for what nature nature nature first time here no no 10th time 10th time oh okay

01:13:38 one two three yes yes your dad didn't want to give interview oh because he doesn't like camera

01:13:52 he doesn't no he likes to be recorded that he doesn't like to talk about war oh okay okay

01:14:01 because he was in the war um a soldier at 17. he was a soldier at 17. yes oh okay have you seen pictures

01:14:10 of him in the war yeah it's hard to talk about the war yeah what has he told you about the war

01:14:18 he's a hero he's a hero you have a strong dad uh they burned his house in the uh over here

01:14:26 village village yeah where he lived before yeah and then uh he was in the war because in point

01:14:35 sadistan yeah wasn't attacked before uh 1993. so he must have bad memories yeah but he's still strong

01:14:46 he said that's that's very good oh yeah he also saved that guy they left everybody left him but

01:14:56 he went and saved he went and saved the guy did he lose any legs or arms he's okay

01:15:02 he's been really hurt and all of his soldiers he's been there laughing but my dad and he's there put him

01:15:12 on back on back and on his back yes and he carries him that must be really heavy how far did he have

01:15:19 to walk with him i don't know he just told he saved somebody and uh and my father is say that man is

01:15:27 been two meters tall two meters tall yes that's taller than me wow strong guy you got a good dad

01:15:35 but i understand he doesn't want to talk about it here let's take picture let's take picture what's your

01:15:40 name mirza what's your name i told him before i forgot summer here like this fight pose

01:15:52 next year summer it's unfortunately time to go and i just learned that there's no electricity here

01:15:57 they don't have fridges there's no lights just generators sunlight living completely off of the

01:16:02 land this is what it's like to be a minecraft villager what it's like to be away from civilization

01:16:06 so don't come here do not come to bosnia if you're weird if you're annoying if you don't believe in

01:16:11 god stay away this is the sanctuary for people that are based 1.00

01:16:19 in the quran it teaches that death is inevitable that it's a part of life and something that we're

01:16:24 supposed to embrace something that the muslim is supposed to think about every day while the 0.97

01:16:29 disbeliever fears death thinking it's the end the believer knows that it's only a part of life

01:16:33 bosnia is scattered with death perhaps making the people appreciate life more i became comfortable

01:16:41 with death in bosnia there's something very comforting about a place with friendly ghosts

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SNEAKO - August 24, 2024

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