SNEAKO - LETTER FROM BOSNIA

00:00:00.000 One, two, three.

00:00:02.580 Shtayvah! 0.86

00:00:07.720 Welcome to Basia. 0.92

00:00:17.480 This country is a story of genocide, survival, recovery, and most importantly, God.

00:00:22.700 I spent over a week here interviewing war heroes, widows, grandmothers,

00:00:26.320 and saw some of the best hospitality I've seen across the world.

00:00:29.420 The story of this country is almost parallel to what's happening in Israel and Palestine right now.

00:00:34.240 And America and the rest of the world needs to know about it.

00:00:36.460 I hope you enjoy this documentary about Basia.

00:00:53.040 So right here is the first mosque built in Sarajevo.

00:00:56.820 And everything else was built around this right here.

00:01:00.500 So this is the first one.

00:01:01.700 First in Bosnia or Sarajevo?

00:01:03.000 First in Sarajevo.

00:01:03.860 I'm one of the first in Bosnia.

00:01:05.480 My family is from Sarajevo originally.

00:01:07.660 My whole life I live here.

00:01:10.020 I was seven when the war started.

00:01:11.980 What year did the war start?

00:01:13.200 Aggression on Bosnia started in April 1992.

00:01:15.660 This letter starts with Adnan Gunzidovich.

00:01:18.340 He's a Bosnian tour guide and a war child.

00:01:20.540 He was gracious enough to show me his diary that he wrote during the war.

00:01:23.740 We sometimes don't think how much we are blessed, you know, because you have everything.

00:01:30.120 And as a kid, you were in one spot waiting for someone to help you.

00:01:35.320 In a way, the war is over and dreaming about peace.

00:01:39.300 Like, for example, unfortunately now in Palestine, which is happening right now.

00:01:44.200 Yeah.

00:01:44.360 He seemed at peace with everything that happened for somebody that grew up during a genocide.

00:01:49.320 And so did everybody else in Bosnia.

00:01:51.220 You could walk around and have no idea that there was warfare here only three decades ago.

00:01:56.160 Were you able to find peace?

00:01:57.400 Today, is there still friction?

00:01:59.000 Is there still aggression?

00:02:00.140 Or is there peace in the Balkans?

00:02:02.400 Peace.

00:02:03.020 You see, that's peace.

00:02:03.840 You are traveling.

00:02:04.540 You are here.

00:02:05.280 You know, no war.

00:02:07.040 But politics is, you know how the politics goes.

00:02:11.240 There is no love from all sides.

00:02:13.440 It's about most of you.

00:02:15.960 If the people of Bosnia learned to forgive and forget, then the people in the streets 0.89

00:02:19.400 of Albania definitely did not. 1.00

00:02:21.380 But fuck Serbia. 1.00

00:02:22.020 You have to tell me why fuck Serbia and then I know why. 1.00

00:02:24.420 Serbia is stupid. 1.00

00:02:27.060 Goodbye, bro. 1.00

00:02:28.560 Goodbye, bro.

00:02:29.100 You can't say to everyone, I love Serbia.

00:02:31.500 Really?

00:02:31.940 It's that bad?

00:02:32.720 Yeah.

00:02:33.020 But I love everyone.

00:02:33.960 Is it like saying I love Israel in Palestine?

00:02:36.020 Yes.

00:02:36.420 Yes.

00:02:37.900 But maybe you meet someone and you say to him, I love Serbia.

00:02:41.220 Maybe someone killed his father or his son.

00:02:44.020 Yeah, you're right.

00:02:44.720 You're right.

00:02:45.140 Actually, that's a good point.

00:02:46.100 I needed to see more than just this guy's diary.

00:02:48.440 I needed to see where the anger went.

00:02:50.380 I needed a war hero.

00:02:51.700 For a while, what do you need connects for?

00:02:52.940 I want to interview some of the genocide survivors here.

00:02:55.820 I'm like, I'm spending all day today.

00:02:56.960 Honestly, like my dad is probably the best because he fought in the war.

00:02:59.860 This is the kickstreamer cheeser and the only Bosnian I know. 1.00

00:03:04.140 Can I interview him today?

00:03:07.940 Honestly, yeah.

00:03:08.920 One thing out of respect, please just don't have my grandma on the stream.

00:03:11.300 If like this, because this is probably going to go through, just don't have my grandma on there.

00:03:14.020 Yeah, no problem.

00:03:14.540 I kept the sightseeing in Cerevo brief so I can make the three-hour car drive to Savitovici

00:03:18.980 to meet the family of a war hero.

00:03:20.980 This is one of those experiences where you have absolutely no idea what to expect.

00:03:33.620 He's coming.

00:03:34.380 Say hello.

00:03:34.960 How's it going?

00:03:35.900 Just follow me.

00:03:36.940 As-salamu alaykum.

00:03:37.820 Bye.

00:03:38.060 Bye.

00:03:38.160 Bye.

00:03:38.220 Bye.

00:03:50.980 This is Muhammad Ali and this is Abdul Wahab.

00:03:56.400 So they both make dawah videos all Islam. 0.89

00:03:59.020 This is Waze.

00:04:00.800 He's my assistant filmer.

00:04:02.760 Oh, okay.

00:04:03.380 Not Muslim yet, but soon inshallah. 0.98

00:04:05.140 Welcome, guys.

00:04:05.960 Thank you.

00:04:06.340 Thank you.

00:04:06.360 Thank you.

00:04:09.080 Get inside.

00:04:09.660 Get inside, guys.

00:04:12.400 Who's here?

00:04:12.840 Yeah.

00:04:15.880 This is my mom.

00:04:17.640 She doesn't see.

00:04:18.520 She's asking, are you tired?

00:04:19.860 No, not tired at all.

00:04:21.580 Good.

00:04:22.320 Take him to the room.

00:04:23.480 Please.

00:04:24.220 Yeah.

00:04:28.800 Please, guys.

00:04:34.720 Thanks so much for having us.

00:04:36.020 We appreciate it.

00:04:36.640 No problem.

00:04:37.180 We have a vacation.

00:04:39.160 I'm so glad to be here.

00:04:44.600 Thanks.

00:04:45.480 Thanks.

00:04:49.860 Guys, have a seat.

00:04:52.700 Or you can use this if you want.

00:04:54.440 If it better be for you.

00:04:55.680 Whatever you want.

00:04:56.820 This is perfect.

00:04:57.880 Yeah.

00:04:58.200 Yeah.

00:04:58.400 I think it's okay.

00:04:59.800 Okay, guys.

00:05:00.580 I got lemonade.

00:05:03.840 Homemade.

00:05:04.560 Like a lemonade.

00:05:05.880 Water.

00:05:07.200 Red Bull.

00:05:08.400 Lemonade, please.

00:05:09.320 Yeah.

00:05:09.840 Okay, I got a cold one.

00:05:11.140 You're from Bosnia your whole life? 1.00

00:05:13.940 Yes.

00:05:14.640 Yes.

00:05:15.180 Yes.

00:05:15.420 I'm from this town.

00:05:17.700 We like came in America like 1996 after war.

00:05:22.340 He told me the story that you came to America with no money.

00:05:25.180 No.

00:05:25.900 20, 20 dollars.

00:05:27.380 Yeah.

00:05:27.720 20 dollars, yeah.

00:05:28.880 And he told me he was born during the war.

00:05:31.800 Is that true?

00:05:32.380 Or his brother?

00:05:33.140 Oh, army.

00:05:34.160 Army.

00:05:34.600 You're his older brother.

00:05:35.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:35.980 Okay.

00:05:36.340 He was born in a basement actually.

00:05:38.540 Yeah, the basement during the war.

00:05:39.800 Basement in a hotel.

00:05:41.880 And when we go to pick it up, I go pick it up, Spomenka and army.

00:05:46.800 We just get in and grenade.

00:05:50.320 But nothing because they were under the ground, you know.

00:05:54.000 Big explosion.

00:05:55.100 Boom.

00:05:55.740 You know, so scary.

00:05:57.320 And then we have to run.

00:05:58.360 She has to run over the street because of the sniper, you know.

00:06:02.720 Me and my wife.

00:06:03.960 And I carried the army, you know.

00:06:06.820 Because it was like a street, like a, let's say like a 10 feet wide, you know.

00:06:11.660 She has to run because of the sniper, you know.

00:06:14.580 They couldn't like protect that because the cars, you know, go during night, you know.

00:06:19.120 But we didn't have choice.

00:06:20.440 You got to get out.

00:06:21.680 Too many injuries, you know.

00:06:23.760 You just like a, get baby, get out, you know. 0.90

00:06:26.480 No place to stay.

00:06:27.760 Hallways, everything was full.

00:06:30.280 You know, it was a hard time.

00:06:31.480 And from the hospital, again, in the basement in our building.

00:06:36.940 And that's how we was like, I think like almost 11 months.

00:06:42.860 Because we were surrounded all the way.

00:06:45.980 And you couldn't sleep in your apartment.

00:06:48.640 And we have like a four-story building with four entries.

00:06:56.120 And 13 times the grenade hit just that building.

00:07:00.540 13 times.

00:07:02.860 And when she was pregnant, Mimi told you, she was sleeping, you know, like, you know.

00:07:08.800 And I see like a day, like a bombing, you know, the town.

00:07:12.360 And I told her, get out, you know. 1.00

00:07:13.900 I'm sleeping, get out.

00:07:15.580 I just go in the hallway and grenade come through the ceiling, everything.

00:07:20.460 In the house?

00:07:21.300 In the room where she was sleeping.

00:07:23.720 While she was pregnant.

00:07:24.560 Yeah, it was scary.

00:07:26.720 Just like 15 seconds, you know, she get out from the house, from my apartment. 1.00

00:07:33.160 That's what's scariest.

00:07:35.040 When did you decide to come to the United States?

00:07:36.940 I tried to stay in the army.

00:07:41.580 But I couldn't, they had like a young, I wasn't old at that time, you know, like a 24-year-old.

00:07:47.640 But they didn't accept me for some reason, you know.

00:07:50.880 The U.S. Army?

00:07:51.520 No, no, no, here, Bosnia Army, to stay, like, after war, you know, you can be like a, you know, like a soldier, you know, like, yeah.

00:07:59.540 And I didn't get it, and I didn't have choice, you know.

00:08:02.820 Why didn't they accept you?

00:08:04.600 Where?

00:08:05.160 Why they didn't accept me here?

00:08:07.000 To the army here, yeah.

00:08:08.300 Because too many, too many applications, you know.

00:08:11.160 And I didn't get it, and I decided no job, you know, kid, you know, baby, and you just decide go to America.

00:08:18.820 And how long were you in the U.S.A. before you came back to Bosnia?

00:08:22.720 Three years.

00:08:24.020 That's it?

00:08:24.580 Yeah, that's it.

00:08:25.280 First time I got, like, some money, I go visit my family.

00:08:29.500 You came right back.

00:08:30.280 Oh, yeah.

00:08:30.740 You don't like America?

00:08:32.600 I mean, I don't know how I can tell you, you know.

00:08:36.480 I appreciated everything they did.

00:08:38.360 But this is my country, you know, in my heart, you know, still.

00:08:41.840 For all my life, it's going to be like that.

00:08:43.520 But still, I appreciate them, you know, they take us, you know, give us opportunity, you know, what I can say.

00:08:48.580 You know, that's all.

00:08:51.000 Yeah, you fought for this country, so you fought.

00:08:53.180 Yes, yes, yes.

00:08:54.120 Yeah, it's different.

00:08:55.600 Yeah, I didn't run away, like you said, yeah.

00:08:58.100 It's different, you know, when you fight for something.

00:09:00.480 But it's sad when you fight and you leave.

00:09:03.360 That's the sad part, you know.

00:09:05.280 So during the war, did the Christians fight too with you guys or no?

00:09:10.200 Yes, some of them, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:09:12.180 Well, a lot of them ran away.

00:09:13.180 I got one of my friends, we worked like the same street.

00:09:17.980 He got the biggest award, you know.

00:09:22.380 Did I say right?

00:09:23.420 Like an award?

00:09:24.640 Like a for fighting?

00:09:25.560 Award, award, yeah.

00:09:26.200 Award, yeah.

00:09:27.180 He got the biggest award from the Bosnian army, you know.

00:09:32.000 He's Catholic, you know, but I can tell him, you know.

00:09:34.980 You know, he fight for, you know, Bosnian army, you know.

00:09:39.020 He was like a good guy, good guy.

00:09:43.500 Do you hold any resentment for these countries or for these leaders or have you moved on?

00:09:48.840 Just moved on.

00:09:50.060 You wanted to try to show where it was like a friend?

00:09:52.940 Sure, yeah.

00:09:52.960 That's what I'm saying.

00:09:53.500 Try to be for dark.

00:09:54.880 Yeah, I was just taking that.

00:09:59.420 I can't explain how close they were, you know.

00:10:02.580 So grenade came, not in this house, no?

00:10:06.160 This house, like, I get, like, cracked because grenade was full behind this house.

00:10:12.120 So grenades came in this house and you repaired the house?

00:10:14.500 This house, I bought it 2008.

00:10:19.360 You can live here if you want it, you know, if it's easier for you.

00:10:30.980 Okay.

00:10:32.580 When we started the war with HVO, like, we started, like, right there in the middle of the town.

00:10:46.040 Everything, like, a whole line, like, we fight inside the city and we clean it up.

00:10:55.060 But they were, like, most of them on edges, those mountains.

00:10:58.320 And they shoot directly, you know, actually.

00:11:01.500 Directly.

00:11:02.200 You know, it's like a, you see, they can see everything, like, like this.

00:11:06.560 Yeah.

00:11:07.060 And they fight from there with everything.

00:11:09.240 Air tanks, grenades, everything.

00:11:11.800 And sniper tried to, like, four guys of mine, they tried to kill us.

00:11:17.380 But thanks God, nobody gets killed here.

00:11:20.640 Alhamdulillah.

00:11:21.260 What gun were you using?

00:11:22.360 I like it, like, AK-47.

00:11:26.420 Yeah.

00:11:26.780 That's, for me, the best.

00:11:28.120 The Russian one. 0.94

00:11:28.920 Yeah, it's, like, a close fight.

00:11:30.480 But we had our Yugoslavia gun was better than AK-47. 0.60

00:11:34.280 But it's, like, a close, that I say, AK-47.

00:11:38.820 That's the light, you know, and very easy to shoot with that.

00:11:42.800 Do you still have it?

00:11:44.120 No.

00:11:44.560 No.

00:11:45.000 Because that's for the armor.

00:11:47.320 All right.

00:11:48.080 So you climbed...

00:11:48.800 Can you stop a little bit?

00:11:50.240 Stop what?

00:11:51.120 Filming?

00:11:51.520 Yeah, just...

00:11:52.320 Yeah, of course.

00:11:53.040 Turn it off.

00:11:53.480 When they tried...

00:11:54.160 Ways.

00:11:54.500 Other side, not here, like, when they tried to get in the city.

00:11:58.340 3,000 range.

00:11:59.380 Boom, boom, boom.

00:12:00.640 Everything, like, in the smoke, you know what?

00:12:04.680 All right here.

00:12:05.700 Let's go.

00:12:08.860 Here is your car.

00:12:09.940 It's still hot.

00:12:19.000 You weren't scared to come back to Bosnia after three years in the United States?

00:12:22.820 No.

00:12:23.200 You weren't scared at all?

00:12:24.040 Then you got your mom, your brother here.

00:12:26.700 No, but this time I told you.

00:12:28.700 Yeah.

00:12:29.000 98%.

00:12:29.960 98%.

00:12:30.860 You got to be scared.

00:12:31.660 Yeah.

00:12:32.340 Yeah, you got everything here.

00:12:33.600 Slomenka.

00:12:34.760 Morning.

00:12:35.720 We go walk around.

00:12:37.240 We prepare the food.

00:12:38.320 Okay.

00:12:38.860 Yeah.

00:12:40.260 And we pick it up some plums.

00:12:41.880 Fresh, you know, like, we just pick it up the plums.

00:12:44.160 This is not ready yet.

00:12:45.580 And Mimi told me, you call him Mimi or Nermin, my son?

00:12:49.560 Oh, Cheezer.

00:12:50.220 Cheezer, yeah.

00:12:51.080 Never mind.

00:12:51.740 I forget.

00:12:52.240 Okay.

00:12:52.780 Yeah.

00:12:53.640 Mimi.

00:12:55.500 He called himself when he was little.

00:12:57.700 Mimi.

00:12:58.200 Yeah.

00:12:58.340 I saw his name on the wall.

00:13:00.060 Mimi on the sailboat.

00:13:01.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:13:02.520 You have bad handwriting, Cheezer.

00:13:06.960 That's the plums.

00:13:08.400 I think it up for 12 years.

00:13:10.640 Started driving the truck.

00:13:13.780 Can I ask you a difficult question?

00:13:15.900 Yeah.

00:13:16.440 How many people from this area do you think survived in the war?

00:13:21.560 Survived?

00:13:22.080 Yes.

00:13:23.120 What percentage?

00:13:25.560 Oh, you mean by the sites?

00:13:28.080 The people that were native to this city.

00:13:30.300 Oh.

00:13:30.700 How many of them survived and how many of them were casualties in the war?

00:13:35.820 It's too many injured people.

00:13:38.480 No legs.

00:13:39.140 I got, you know, to bring my friend.

00:13:40.980 He lost the legs to here.

00:13:42.340 Yeah.

00:13:42.500 I just been with him last night.

00:13:44.880 Yeah.

00:13:45.360 I take him to the sea, you know.

00:13:47.180 You know, I respect him.

00:13:49.020 Of course.

00:13:49.280 His whole family with me, you know.

00:13:51.780 And do something good.

00:13:53.600 Too many, like, legs we lost, you know.

00:13:56.100 Legs?

00:13:56.620 Legs.

00:13:57.080 Because of the mines.

00:13:58.100 And grenades.

00:13:59.340 Yeah.

00:13:59.660 It was mostly mines.

00:14:00.840 Mines.

00:14:01.340 Most of mines.

00:14:02.200 It's a really nice majid here.

00:14:03.720 Yeah.

00:14:04.140 Well, they made it, yeah.

00:14:05.580 They made it after the war?

00:14:06.640 After the war.

00:14:07.460 After.

00:14:07.880 It's beautiful.

00:14:08.840 It is beautiful.

00:14:10.300 Do you want to pray Maghreb and majid?

00:14:12.280 Yeah, I go with you, but I have to get rest.

00:14:14.440 Oh, right.

00:14:14.840 You need to.

00:14:15.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:14:15.820 Okay.

00:14:16.560 And down there, like, I shop.

00:14:18.060 What do you love about Bosnia?

00:14:19.560 We've been talking about a lot of negatives.

00:14:21.260 And things that happened in the past.

00:14:23.100 But you came back for a reason.

00:14:25.560 People are different than in America and Europe. 0.57

00:14:31.600 Here, what you can feel, you cannot feel nowhere in the world.

00:14:35.720 My opinion.

00:14:36.700 I agree.

00:14:37.480 I agree.

00:14:37.860 When they, like, take you, like, call you, hey, come to my house or something, they give

00:14:43.180 you everything that's possible to make you comfortable, you know?

00:14:47.480 It's kind of like the Arabic hospitality.

00:14:49.340 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:50.280 Kind of.

00:14:50.740 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:51.100 They're just like that.

00:14:53.160 We're not close to everybody else in Europe.

00:14:55.860 They're different, you know?

00:14:57.580 But we are like a, how can I, let me say, like a, we are so friendly, you know?

00:15:05.200 And, like, to meet people, not like I close the door, you know, your neighbor or stuff like that.

00:15:11.540 Ciao, ciao.

00:15:12.100 Ciao, ciao.

00:15:12.960 Mm-hmm.

00:15:15.680 Yeah, you see this?

00:15:17.920 This lady just passed by. 0.99

00:15:20.280 She's like a Christian. 0.96

00:15:21.700 She's full time here.

00:15:23.700 Okay.

00:15:25.060 Catholic or Orthodox?

00:15:27.440 Orthodox.

00:15:28.380 Okay.

00:15:28.920 All the time here.

00:15:29.780 And you get along?

00:15:32.500 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:33.280 Alhamdulillah.

00:15:33.740 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:34.500 Oh, mashallah.

00:15:35.360 Yeah.

00:15:35.900 All the time.

00:15:36.720 Mashallah.

00:15:37.240 We're walking.

00:15:37.860 Okay, we wait here.

00:15:38.920 We're walking.

00:15:39.400 Okay.

00:15:40.960 So we're waiting now.

00:15:42.320 He's going to change into pants because you can't pray with shorts on.

00:15:45.720 It's about time for Maghrib and then we're going to have food.

00:15:49.200 This is interesting.

00:15:50.340 It was one of those places I never thought I would be.

00:15:52.220 I can't even pronounce the name of this town.

00:15:54.680 But seeing the way he describes it, you get to see.

00:15:57.960 When he was on the balcony there, you get to picture the war that happened here only three

00:16:02.100 decades ago.

00:16:03.000 You could see it in his eyes and the way he describes it.

00:16:06.220 Looking now, it's crazy how quickly things can change from grenades going off and mines

00:16:10.420 going off, people's legs being blown off to a place that's very livable.

00:16:14.300 Soccer fields and New Majid and everything.

00:16:16.560 Things can change and things can turn around a lot quicker than we really realize.

00:16:20.300 What we heard from these two interviews so far is that people of different faiths can coexist

00:16:24.400 until greed from the politicians corrupts it.

00:16:28.040 They were fine.

00:16:28.680 They were coexisting fine.

00:16:30.200 We saw that they called it the Jerusalem of Europe beforehand.

00:16:33.300 He was saying that they coexisted well with the Orthodox and the Catholic people.

00:16:36.820 But then the people in charge, the Serbian leader who wanted to take over Europe, the 1.00

00:16:42.220 communists came in and the HVO, people who were corrupted by greed, they're the ones who

00:16:48.060 ruined the unity.

00:16:48.560 People of different faiths can coexist fine until power gets involved.

00:16:59.580 Can I ask you, because this town is very traditional, you know, you come from a war-torn

00:17:06.160 background, obviously.

00:17:07.480 What do you think about the world that myself and your son are involved in, the streaming

00:17:11.780 internet American world?

00:17:13.800 I like how Nermin acted.

00:17:17.740 He was born over there.

00:17:19.840 Cheezer.

00:17:20.500 Yeah, Cheezer.

00:17:21.400 Mimi.

00:17:21.640 But he got Bosnia here. 0.98

00:17:23.300 He does.

00:17:24.000 You see how he acted?

00:17:25.740 He gets pissed.

00:17:27.020 Somebody tells him something about it.

00:17:28.720 And he protects.

00:17:29.520 But even if he's not born here, but he feels Bosnia.

00:17:33.640 That's good.

00:17:34.680 You know?

00:17:34.960 That's good.

00:17:36.640 Do you like the streaming world?

00:17:38.380 I can hear the Adan, yeah.

00:17:40.960 But do you like streaming, Twitch, kick, this stuff?

00:17:45.060 I don't, but I can say.

00:17:46.740 Yeah.

00:17:47.060 You know, like, because of the casting, stuff like that, I don't like it.

00:17:51.940 But I can say, the world is like that, you know?

00:17:55.720 Yeah.

00:17:56.940 Everything is go upside down.

00:18:00.360 I like old-fashioned life.

00:18:01.900 Mm-hmm.

00:18:08.380 There's a streamer at the, I'm just doing an interview about, video about Bosnia.

00:18:27.120 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:27.980 So, do you like it here?

00:18:29.080 I love Bosnia.

00:18:29.860 Yeah.

00:18:30.400 Tell me a little bit here.

00:18:31.380 Come talk.

00:18:31.880 Let me, we're making a video.

00:18:32.780 Let me ask you some more things.

00:18:34.160 And then he moves here when?

00:18:34.980 I was born in 2005, and I think, in 2005, or 2006, at the end of 2005.

00:18:47.540 And it's, this place is called Zabidović, and it's a really small town.

00:18:56.140 It's, it was in a really bad position during the aggression in Bosnia during the 90s when

00:19:03.380 the Orthodox Serbs attacked us, and people were in a really bad position.

00:19:10.320 They were, uh, starved, they were killed with grenades and, uh, artillery, artillery fire.

00:19:19.320 Well, um, there isn't so much, um, tourist attraction in this town.

00:19:25.560 In this town, no.

00:19:26.580 Bosnia in a global, uh, is a multicultural state.

00:19:30.820 And, for example, I watched you, uh, how we wear the Bosnian jersey.

00:19:36.360 Mm-hmm.

00:19:36.580 Soccer jersey, football jersey.

00:19:38.640 And you cannot walk with that in, for example, the city of Doboy, which is near.

00:19:45.280 You can't walk with that?

00:19:46.140 No.

00:19:46.520 It's all Serbs there? 1.00

00:19:47.380 Yes.

00:19:48.060 Okay.

00:19:48.640 They'll probably be attacked or something like that.

00:19:50.300 So do they consider themselves Bosnian or Serbian?

00:19:52.360 They call themselves Serbian.

00:19:55.700 In Bosnia?

00:19:56.780 Yes.

00:19:57.060 Yeah, they have this idea of greater Serbia.

00:19:59.920 They want to unite all Serbs in one state. 0.52

00:20:02.140 Yes.

00:20:02.600 Yeah.

00:20:02.860 The same idea from the leader.

00:20:04.000 Yeah.

00:20:04.240 Okay.

00:20:05.280 And they wanted to exterminate. 0.99

00:20:06.800 During the aggression, they wanted to exterminate the Muslims. 0.93

00:20:09.520 Before dark, you can see over there, like, they made, like, names.

00:20:13.800 Like, uh, soldiers dying during the war over there.

00:20:16.840 Yeah.

00:20:17.060 And I can show you that.

00:20:18.480 Is it far away?

00:20:19.460 No, right here.

00:20:20.240 Maybe we go now before it's dark.

00:20:21.560 When I was a little boy, this is my school.

00:20:23.900 This is your school here?

00:20:24.920 Yeah.

00:20:25.360 So they didn't bomb it?

00:20:25.980 After that, I get uniform.

00:20:28.640 Here too, you know, because of...

00:20:30.420 Uniform for the war.

00:20:31.600 This right here.

00:20:32.380 Yeah.

00:20:32.720 And you can see that, like, a big, like, a rock, you know, and names on it.

00:20:39.260 Too many of my friends and family.

00:20:41.980 Do you know everybody here in the town?

00:20:43.960 No, no.

00:20:44.640 No.

00:20:44.940 Because they come from other places. 0.98

00:20:46.780 They know me.

00:20:47.640 You know who's here?

00:20:48.880 Like, all the time, everyone I know.

00:20:51.040 Because it's a small town.

00:20:52.420 The warrior flag?

00:20:53.260 Yes.

00:20:53.540 Yes.

00:20:53.580 Yes.

00:20:55.980 The best thing, your favorite thing about Bosnia?

00:21:01.460 The food?

00:21:05.540 Yes.

00:21:05.960 Okay.

00:21:06.460 I'm hungry.

00:21:07.340 I wanted, I invited Cheezer to come on this trip.

00:21:09.660 He didn't, or Mimi to come.

00:21:10.840 He didn't want to come.

00:21:11.900 He said he couldn't go because of the kick.

00:21:14.120 He couldn't come.

00:21:14.540 Because of the kick?

00:21:15.220 Yeah.

00:21:15.820 But he could stream when he's here.

00:21:17.060 I told him.

00:21:18.320 I don't know.

00:21:18.940 I stream when I'm here in the hotel.

00:21:20.880 See?

00:21:21.340 I told him you can stream from everywhere.

00:21:23.060 No, I can't, Daddy.

00:21:24.040 But, I don't know, for some reason.

00:21:27.500 He said, next year, next year.

00:21:29.540 I don't know why he changed mind.

00:21:32.460 I know I have Serbian friends from their perspective.

00:21:35.380 It's the Bosnian people's fault. 1.00

00:21:37.680 Oh.

00:21:38.420 They blame you on the war.

00:21:40.280 Oh, yeah.

00:21:40.780 Of course.

00:21:41.780 Of course.

00:21:42.400 They say, you try to get Islamic Republic here. 0.87

00:21:46.180 Wow.

00:21:46.560 They're killing civilians so easy.

00:21:49.220 They have no feelings.

00:21:50.240 Oh, yeah.

00:21:53.360 Not bad to me.

00:21:54.320 Oh.

00:21:54.620 After war, it was worse for the food.

00:22:04.500 Because nobody's sending the food anymore.

00:22:08.060 Nothing working.

00:22:08.840 In fact, you're not working.

00:22:10.480 You cannot make money.

00:22:11.720 You cannot make the cost of living.

00:22:14.140 You can't do anything.

00:22:15.800 And I didn't have a choice.

00:22:17.120 You know, I tried, tried.

00:22:18.960 So sad, you know.

00:22:20.460 After war, you fight.

00:22:22.260 You go through the hell.

00:22:26.380 You're already exhausted.

00:22:27.420 And then you have to fight again.

00:22:28.560 Just go.

00:22:29.460 What does being Bosnian mean to you?

00:22:31.340 What does it mean?

00:22:32.360 Everything.

00:22:34.500 Everything.

00:22:36.220 I can cry when I think, talk about that.

00:22:38.720 Yeah.

00:22:40.800 It's so sad, you know.

00:22:41.980 You like something and keep you away from there.

00:22:44.960 You know, it's hard.

00:22:46.540 But still, they fight so bad, you know.

00:22:49.660 These politicians.

00:22:50.480 They can make even, if they have to be here, let them be here.

00:22:56.100 Let's make us some war. 0.57

00:22:57.800 Not like, they just make to people hate each other more and more.

00:23:03.520 Politicians.

00:23:04.600 Regular people, they're not that bad, you know.

00:23:07.660 But they make them, you know, scared.

00:23:09.560 Even like, they say, oh, they're going to kill you.

00:23:11.600 And then you think, you got kids.

00:23:13.240 Oh, I stay there.

00:23:14.440 On my side.

00:23:15.640 That's how they separate people.

00:23:17.080 But that's how people move from the village.

00:23:20.440 They move, move, move, move, move.

00:23:22.100 What do the Bosnians think about what's happening in Israel and Palestine?

00:23:26.540 Oh, that's what it is, brother.

00:23:29.400 Maybe we see each other again.

00:23:31.920 Thank you so much.

00:23:32.760 Thank you, guys.

00:23:34.820 Thank you very much.

00:23:36.040 Thank you, brother.

00:23:36.960 We'll never forget this place in heaven.

00:23:39.100 Oh, you've been amazing, brother.

00:23:41.720 Nico, appreciate it, brother.

00:23:43.480 I appreciate it.

00:23:44.100 You make me so happy.

00:23:45.200 Even my son, he told me, you know, he's so happy you visited me.

00:23:48.600 And that's respect.

00:23:50.120 Thank you so much for having us.

00:23:51.480 I appreciate it, guys.

00:23:51.500 I appreciate it.

00:23:52.540 Thank you, guys, very much.

00:23:53.460 Thank you very much.

00:23:54.220 So, I appreciate it.

00:23:54.840 Marlo, bless you.

00:23:55.240 I love you, guys.

00:23:55.980 Thank you very much.

00:23:57.000 Thank you.

00:23:57.380 We are now going back to Sarajevo.

00:23:59.200 It's about an hour and a half drive.

00:24:01.080 It's late.

00:24:01.940 I think we're going to get the around-ish of time.

00:24:03.760 Thank you so much to Cheezer and thank you so much to Refet.

00:24:05.560 This is some of the best hospitality that I've received ever in my life, I have to admit.

00:24:09.540 Food is delicious.

00:24:10.300 I'm feeling like I'm about to pass out on this car ride, but there's a lot more to unpack here

00:24:16.460 and a lot more to see about Bosnia tomorrow and later tonight.

00:24:19.900 I think we just scratched the surface about what this country is really about, and we've got to get to the truth.

00:24:25.100 Let's go home.

00:24:34.220 That's a red tiger.

00:24:35.620 Right, right, right.

00:24:37.040 I'm going to take a lot of droves.

00:24:40.300 Would have known from the start

00:24:44.960 Instead of waiting so long

00:24:47.760 To reveal what's behind

00:24:50.360 If you want, we can get inside of the center.

00:24:59.120 Sure.

00:25:00.120 Some of them are more comfortable speaking.

00:25:03.860 Some of them are not.

00:25:05.040 As-salamu alaykum.

00:25:06.040 I like your outfit.

00:25:07.140 How are you?

00:25:08.380 Okay, let's change some words with them.

00:25:10.240 Can you tell her I like her outfit?

00:25:11.600 She says that she likes how she's dressed.

00:25:14.840 I hear, where is she?

00:25:15.840 Yeah.

00:25:16.840 Yeah, these traditional...

00:25:18.440 How do you say beautiful in Bosnian?

00:25:20.220 Lijepa.

00:25:21.220 Lijepa.

00:25:22.220 Very Lijepa. 0.99

00:25:23.220 Sala.

00:25:24.220 Sala.

00:25:25.220 She says, thank you.

00:25:26.220 Of course.

00:25:27.220 Can I sit down?

00:25:28.220 Do you mind if I sit down here?

00:25:29.720 Yes.

00:25:30.220 Okay, thank you.

00:25:38.020 What did she say?

00:25:39.020 She wants to show you some pictures.

00:25:41.240 Okay.

00:25:42.180 It's in her room?

00:25:43.440 Yeah.

00:25:44.180 Yeah.

00:25:45.140 Okay.

00:25:45.660 You see, this is her oldest son, and he was killed as well.

00:25:53.520 13 years afterwards, when she buried him, they located his head, his skull.

00:26:00.380 His skull?

00:26:00.920 Yeah.

00:26:01.420 Yeah.

00:26:01.920 And they added it to the grave last year, in the past year, is that right?

00:26:06.520 Yeah, 14th.

00:26:08.020 I had five sons and one daughter, one son died before the war.

00:26:18.440 She was sick and ended. 0.65

00:26:21.440 She raised four of them, married them, built home houses for them. 0.99

00:26:28.900 And her daughter is now living in Sweden with her husband and kids.

00:26:35.980 It's good.

00:26:36.700 Dobro.

00:26:42.040 It was, you know.

00:26:50.120 In that moment, it felt like her memories were also my memories.

00:26:53.480 Like, these weren't just pictures of strangers, but of my own family.

00:27:05.100 These moments are so personal, I didn't want to talk about Bosnia and the war.

00:27:09.380 I just wanted to relive her memories with her.

00:27:11.400 3-3s over the war.

00:27:28.400 I'm telling the story. Thank you.

00:27:30.400 Who's to blame for the war?

00:27:58.400 You cannot do anything. You can blame them. There are some of them who are in court and in prison, but in the end they are alive and we are missing our loved ones. They are killed.

00:28:12.400 Now, when it is on the 11th and before the war, Bratunac is amazing with Mladićev and Haradićev. They are still alive.

00:28:27.400 So, in the days before the 11th of July, you can see many posters and big pictures of Mladić in Bratunac.

00:28:41.400 They are glorifying these crimes.

00:28:45.400 They are glorifying them? Yes.

00:28:47.400 That would be, that you can see your heart.

00:28:52.400 That you can see your heart when you go and see it.

00:28:57.400 Well, it is so hard to see it when you pass it. Your soul wants to get out of your body.

00:29:05.400 That's the expression that she uses of all the pain that she feels when she sees something like that.

00:29:12.400 It is hard, but what can you do?

00:29:17.400 What can you do?

00:29:27.400 She says that everyone lost someone from their home.

00:29:33.400 When I went to home, she ate a lot of Dusimafunal Minarets, I Grand池Cafatih, and her son sent me to see his mother and said,

00:29:41.400 don't please, I have been in the house alive!

00:29:46.400 So there is a picture of her in Istanbul, in one of the mosques that had many minarets that she says and people are praying and they are reciting Al-Fatih for her soul and there is a guy that said, come on, I've been to her house, I know she is alive, she says, well, I don't know about me.

00:30:06.400 She has to bring my mother to me and see that I am alive. She has almost 15-20 days.

00:30:13.400 She loves me, she says something, she says something, she says something, she says something, she says something, she says something, she says something.

00:30:22.400 This guy has to bring his mother here to show her that she is alive.

00:30:26.400 So they met and that's his way to explain and make sure not to recite Al-Fatih for her.

00:30:34.400 How this picture was taken, in the first year of her return, they were laying, how do you say it, the stone for the foundations of something, for the memorial center.

00:30:44.400 The grave.

00:30:45.400 No, no, like the, there is a ceremony that you put the stone when you try to.

00:30:51.400 That's what it is.

00:30:53.400 Oh, yeah, that's it.

00:30:55.400 So in the second year afterwards, they designed the look of the.

00:31:01.400 So this is her?

00:31:02.400 Yes, that's her.

00:31:04.400 I was running and running.

00:31:06.400 Someone was watching me.

00:31:07.400 She was fighting with police.

00:31:09.400 She was pushing them, etc. 1.00

00:31:10.400 So someone took this picture.

00:31:11.400 And it was famous in many newspapers all over the world.

00:31:17.400 I didn't know who was watching me.

00:31:19.400 She doesn't know who took the picture.

00:31:21.400 I was running and running.

00:31:23.400 I was trying.

00:31:24.400 And, uh.

00:31:25.400 That year, in March, I was the first one.

00:31:27.400 I was the husband.

00:31:28.400 I was the husband.

00:31:29.400 I was the husband.

00:31:30.400 I couldn't go before me.

00:31:31.400 So I couldn't go.

00:31:32.400 I couldn't go.

00:31:33.400 When we were in our hotel, this picture, but big.

00:31:37.400 Good.

00:31:38.400 Good.

00:31:39.400 Can you tell her?

00:31:40.400 She looks much more beautiful in real life than in the photo.

00:31:43.400 She says that you look better now than in real life.

00:31:47.400 Yeah.

00:31:48.400 Mashallah.

00:31:52.400 Smiles better.

00:31:53.400 Smiles better.

00:32:04.400 What's the best place in Bosnia?

00:32:06.400 Where is the best place?

00:32:07.400 Is it Sarajevo or Tuzla?

00:32:09.400 No, no Sarajevo.

00:32:11.400 Srebrenica.

00:32:13.400 Just Srebrenica, not any other place.

00:32:16.400 Yeah.

00:32:17.400 My brothers are from Srebrenica.

00:32:19.400 Yes, yes.

00:32:20.400 They like Srebrenica and Bratunica the most.

00:32:22.400 Not the other place.

00:32:23.400 I was the husband who bought it up in the fight.

00:32:28.400 It's a place where she lost her son here in the fighting.

00:32:32.400 That's it.

00:32:33.400 Can you say, I want to get married?

00:32:35.400 Do they know a nice girl? 0.74

00:32:37.400 Do you know a nice girl? 0.94

00:32:38.400 I want to get married.

00:32:40.400 He wants to get married.

00:32:42.400 He asks him how she's fine.

00:32:44.400 He's not out there.

00:32:45.400 He's not out there.

00:32:46.400 He's not out there.

00:32:47.400 You can marry these, for example, medical technicians.

00:32:50.400 They are the best.

00:32:51.400 They are the best.

00:32:58.400 She says if she had a grandson, she would take some of the employees here from the chef.

00:33:07.400 They are the best.

00:33:08.400 They are the best.

00:33:09.400 They are the best.

00:33:10.400 Let's drink.

00:33:11.400 Do you need sugar or something?

00:33:13.400 Yeah, the Bosnian way. 0.86

00:33:14.400 You go like this.

00:33:15.400 Yeah.

00:33:16.400 And then...

00:33:17.400 Oh! 0.60

00:33:18.400 Look at this.

00:33:19.400 How do you drink?

00:33:20.400 How do you drink?

00:33:21.400 How do you drink?

00:33:22.400 How do you drink?

00:33:23.400 Bosnian way.

00:33:24.400 You don't need a spoon?

00:33:25.400 No, no.

00:33:26.400 Okay.

00:33:27.400 This is our son.

00:33:28.400 These are from America.

00:33:29.400 She's praising her.

00:33:30.400 I don't have a son.

00:33:31.400 I would take her right away.

00:33:32.400 I don't have a son.

00:33:33.400 I would take her right away.

00:33:34.400 Okay, so those are very difficult stories.

00:33:37.400 It seems like everybody in Bosnia lost a lot of people, and so it's difficult to overcome wartime.

00:33:58.400 I don't want to ask too much about war.

00:34:00.400 It's just like when you have people, that's all they think about.

00:34:02.400 The pictures, the memories are surrounded by it.

00:34:04.400 So I wanted to talk to them about finding potential wives. 0.97

00:34:07.400 Good things.

00:34:08.400 Good memories.

00:34:09.400 America, Bosnia.

00:34:10.400 And I don't know if you understood, but the lady here, she kept trying to set me up with the employee who was making us coffee. 1.00

00:34:15.400 So maybe she's single. 0.99

00:34:17.400 I don't know.

00:34:18.400 She got nice hair.

00:34:19.400 Thank you so much.

00:34:20.400 May Allah bless you.

00:34:21.400 Thank you so much for your story.

00:34:22.400 Yes.

00:34:23.400 Melissa! 0.87

00:34:24.400 Yes.

00:34:25.400 Oh, I'll talk to her.

00:34:27.400 Nice hair.

00:34:29.400 Yeah.

00:34:30.400 Melissa! 0.87

00:34:31.400 Melissa! 0.87

00:34:32.400 Are you married?

00:34:33.400 Who are you?

00:34:34.400 I don't know.

00:34:35.400 I don't know.

00:34:36.400 I didn't know.

00:34:37.400 I didn't know.

00:34:38.400 I didn't know.

00:34:39.400 I didn't know.

00:34:40.400 I didn't know.

00:34:41.400 What did you know?

00:34:42.400 So there was a visit from some Turkish guys and they took one girl.

00:34:48.400 She married.

00:34:49.400 Really?

00:34:50.400 And I'm saying, what are you doing now?

00:34:52.400 Yes.

00:34:53.400 It's not the first time that she did it.

00:34:58.400 Oh, okay.

00:34:59.400 Thank you so much for the coffee.

00:35:01.400 It was very nice.

00:35:02.400 She speaks very highly of you.

00:35:04.400 So do all of them.

00:35:05.400 Salaamu Alaikum.

00:35:06.400 Thank you.

00:35:07.400 May Allah bless you.

00:35:08.400 Thank you.

00:35:09.400 Bye.

00:35:10.400 Yeah.

00:35:12.400 Oh, they're growing here.

00:35:15.400 Yeah.

00:35:16.400 But this is another disaster.

00:35:17.400 When they captured the Ba'asians, she was telling that her grandsons were forced to drink alcohol.

00:35:23.400 What is the point of doing that in warfare?

00:35:25.400 That has nothing to do with houses or land or anything.

00:35:27.400 That's just trying to corrupt the soul of a pure person.

00:35:29.400 What does this remind you of?

00:35:31.400 it's like they don't want you

00:35:33.520 to have that attachment to Islam.

00:35:35.200 They want you to disassociate from your

00:35:37.500 Lord, disassociate from your religion. 1.00

00:35:39.840 They make you drink alcohol. After you

00:35:41.500 drink the alcohol, they take the bottle, smash your teeth

00:35:43.480 out. What is this, bro? What is

00:35:45.460 this? You know what I mean? The same thing's happened

00:35:47.360 to the Uyghurs in China.

00:35:49.440 You know, the same tactics over and over.

00:35:51.520 It's like they have a playbook.

00:35:53.240 They have the same playbook. They force the Uyghurs 1.00

00:35:55.400 to eat pork. They force them to

00:35:57.360 what do you call it? Drink alcohol.

00:35:59.480 You know, they force the pagan 1.00

00:36:01.220 men upon the Muslim women that are 0.99

00:36:03.240 chaste, you know, good women. 0.99

00:36:05.260 They force all that, everything that's evil

00:36:07.400 against Islam, they force them. 1.00

00:36:09.600 You know what I mean? And it's like

00:36:11.280 the same playbook that they use against the Muslims 1.00

00:36:13.220 over and over again, bro.

00:36:14.960 The lady here, she had more books of her family

00:36:17.220 and her past and Polaroid pictures

00:36:19.200 and a woman who took over her house 1.00

00:36:21.560 burnt all of her books and all of her

00:36:23.220 memories.

00:36:24.560 Why would you burn memories

00:36:26.600 of somebody's house that you just took?

00:36:28.520 What does that have to do with the war?

00:36:30.840 It's good versus evil.

00:36:32.960 It's time to go see

00:36:34.280 a gravesite.

00:36:36.100 Not the most exciting, but it's necessary to see.

00:36:39.160 This is what,

00:36:39.940 what's his name?

00:36:40.900 Rafet?

00:36:41.960 How did you say his name from yesterday?

00:36:44.140 Rafet.

00:36:46.260 I think you're saying it the Arabic way.

00:36:48.420 Anyway, we're going to the gravesite

00:36:49.440 and even Rafet yesterday

00:36:50.500 was telling us to go there.

00:36:52.060 It's about a three-hour drive from Sarevo.

00:36:53.660 So, haven't gotten much sleep,

00:36:56.020 but great food.

00:36:57.680 Thank you for the hospitality so far.

00:36:59.280 And I was glazing him off camera.

00:37:00.700 Pause.

00:37:01.380 Just saying, like, what he does is very admirable.

00:37:03.220 To do charity work like this,

00:37:04.720 it's very, it must be painful

00:37:06.020 to have to deal with this nonstop.

00:37:07.940 I see it as soon as the camera turns away,

00:37:09.700 he's like, man, it's just,

00:37:11.080 it's heavy.

00:37:12.040 This is heavy stuff nonstop.

00:37:13.200 So, a lot of props to him

00:37:15.160 and all the workers that are here.

00:37:17.100 And think about the kids.

00:37:18.060 The kids that live here,

00:37:20.160 they live here because the village is two hours away

00:37:22.460 and there's no schools there.

00:37:24.060 So, these villages were destroyed so much

00:37:26.420 that there's nothing.

00:37:27.460 There's no restaurants, really.

00:37:28.680 There's no,

00:37:29.160 even the reason we're eating here

00:37:30.260 is because there's no restaurants

00:37:31.040 almost three hours back to Sarevo.

00:37:33.580 Not the most exciting thing.

00:37:34.800 We're going to go to a gravesite,

00:37:35.840 but it's historical and it's important.

00:37:37.440 So, it's going to be interesting.

00:37:39.260 And this isn't just any gravesite.

00:37:42.200 Say what?

00:37:42.760 Remember Rafa?

00:37:43.740 Like, they set them up by sending them here.

00:37:45.760 Right.

00:37:46.260 And then the firing squad

00:37:47.540 and none of them had any weapons,

00:37:49.240 none of that.

00:37:49.900 They were set up

00:37:50.740 and they were all executed.

00:37:52.780 Yeah.

00:37:53.420 It's comparable to Rafa.

00:37:54.740 If you know about Palestine,

00:37:55.600 you know about Gaza.

00:37:56.360 They sent all the innocent civilians 1.00

00:37:57.960 to go to the safe zone called Rafa

00:37:59.720 and they just ended up bombing Rafa.

00:38:01.680 And this just happened a couple months ago.

00:38:03.440 But the gravesite we're going to see now

00:38:04.780 is almost parallel to that.

00:38:12.760 So, we are in the town of the gravesite.

00:38:26.360 It's just a ghost town.

00:38:27.960 There's no restaurants here.

00:38:29.240 There's nothing here.

00:38:30.640 There was smashed windows.

00:38:32.440 It was 30 years ago,

00:38:33.740 but they stayed strong

00:38:34.580 because they fought for this land.

00:38:35.680 They fought for this territory.

00:38:37.220 They said,

00:38:37.440 I'm not leaving.

00:38:38.320 I would leave personally.

00:38:40.040 But I understand why.

00:38:41.220 Maybe I would stay.

00:38:42.140 I haven't seen anything open.

00:38:43.280 I haven't seen anybody walking around.

00:38:44.380 There's no cars here.

00:38:45.820 There's a mosque

00:38:46.360 and there's a church

00:38:47.000 and there's a graveyard

00:38:48.520 and people living here.

00:38:50.740 Where's the club?

00:38:52.020 I don't know.

00:38:54.200 All the mosques 0.99

00:38:55.440 in Srebrenica,

00:38:57.720 in this town,

00:38:58.340 were all completely destroyed.

00:38:59.540 So, this one you see here

00:39:00.260 is actually new.

00:39:01.220 Every single mosque 0.89

00:39:01.960 was systematically destroyed.

00:39:03.040 Why would they destroy a mosque

00:39:04.120 in war?

00:39:04.520 What does that have to be?

00:39:05.120 Because if you destroy a mosque, 0.88

00:39:06.080 you destroy the people's home. 0.60

00:39:07.440 The cultural home.

00:39:08.100 The heart.

00:39:08.780 And so, you make them flee.

00:39:10.760 You know,

00:39:11.140 imagine if you destroy

00:39:11.980 everything that you loved.

00:39:12.960 Your religion, your deans.

00:39:13.940 You have no reason to stay.

00:39:14.740 You have no reason to stay.

00:39:15.780 And there was actually stories

00:39:16.640 in the war itself.

00:39:17.620 So, this place was under

00:39:18.480 a UN safe zone.

00:39:19.580 A protection zone.

00:39:20.940 And actually,

00:39:21.540 the Muslims were flooding the mosque 0.86

00:39:22.900 during this time. 0.95

00:39:24.440 And of course,

00:39:24.920 when the Serb forces

00:39:25.980 entered the city,

00:39:26.780 they rounded up the men

00:39:28.120 and they rounded up the women.

00:39:29.540 The women were actually 1.00

00:39:30.220 brought to rape camps.

00:39:31.700 Many of them being abused 0.65

00:39:32.920 so much in a way

00:39:33.700 that they couldn't even,

00:39:34.840 you know,

00:39:35.600 stand being alive.

00:39:36.800 And they actually wanted 0.99

00:39:37.420 to be killed. 0.79

00:39:38.440 Some actually committed suicide. 0.86

00:39:39.560 Some jumped off

00:39:40.180 and killed themselves.

00:39:41.380 And the men, of course,

00:39:42.520 were rounded up

00:39:43.100 and they were brought

00:39:43.660 in the fields

00:39:44.380 in the mountain passes

00:39:45.300 of Shrebrenica.

00:39:45.900 So, they were lined up

00:39:47.220 24-7.

00:39:48.240 They had to have shifts 1.00

00:39:49.220 to kill these people. 0.98

00:39:50.520 That's because they were 1.00

00:39:51.040 getting so tired

00:39:51.800 of beating them

00:39:52.540 and torturing them 1.00

00:39:53.660 and shooting them. 1.00

00:39:55.040 These animals, 1.00

00:39:55.620 sick animals.

00:39:56.120 What else is there to say? 0.98

00:39:59.340 And they fought over nothing.

00:40:00.560 Today, the city is

00:40:01.580 completely a ghost town.

00:40:02.460 They didn't even take

00:40:03.040 the territory that they

00:40:03.900 fought over.

00:40:04.600 There's no one here.

00:40:05.540 There's a dog.

00:40:06.360 That's it.

00:40:07.040 The only thing I see,

00:40:08.180 there hasn't been one car,

00:40:09.040 one person,

00:40:09.580 but you see a dog 0.99

00:40:10.160 licking his butt. 0.98

00:40:10.740 These are all 8,000. 0.99

00:40:15.760 Actually, 6,000

00:40:16.600 just buried here

00:40:17.320 from a single day.

00:40:19.000 In fact,

00:40:19.500 maybe a few days.

00:40:20.760 All of these graveyards,

00:40:22.360 all of these gravestones

00:40:23.200 you see around me

00:40:23.740 and they're still

00:40:24.400 finding people

00:40:25.240 after 30 years.

00:40:26.720 Some of these are new.

00:40:27.480 You can see they've just been dug up.

00:40:28.420 Exactly, yeah.

00:40:28.960 So, not too far from here.

00:40:30.580 I was actually burying.

00:40:31.420 Last month,

00:40:31.920 I was burying

00:40:32.440 and I was shoveling

00:40:33.080 and I was burying

00:40:33.600 the ruins

00:40:34.260 and the remnants of

00:40:35.260 some of the sky.

00:40:36.160 I can ask you,

00:40:36.840 why is there,

00:40:37.540 this grave is different

00:40:38.220 than the rest?

00:40:38.840 Yeah.

00:40:39.160 So, this is actually,

00:40:40.120 we all think that

00:40:41.040 only Muslims were killed

00:40:42.080 during the Bosnian war.

00:40:43.140 This was a Christian,

00:40:44.620 the first

00:40:45.100 and the only,

00:40:46.500 sorry,

00:40:46.880 the only Christian victim 1.00

00:40:48.340 of the Shrebanista genocide

00:40:49.560 and he was staying here

00:40:50.740 and the fact that he stayed

00:40:51.960 with the Muslims

00:40:52.480 was the reason why 0.99

00:40:53.160 they killed him.

00:40:54.020 So, you guess,

00:40:54.440 his grave is different

00:40:55.520 than the rest?

00:40:55.960 It's a special grave.

00:40:56.580 Everything else is

00:40:57.640 obviously Islamic oriented.

00:40:58.720 Here you have a cross.

00:41:00.500 Very unique graveyard

00:41:01.720 and as people

00:41:03.620 of the modern century

00:41:04.600 we're very lucky

00:41:05.180 to be able to witness

00:41:06.000 and see this grave.

00:41:08.500 I think the obvious

00:41:09.300 major takeaway

00:41:10.080 from this trip

00:41:11.360 and learning

00:41:11.960 the story of Bosnia

00:41:13.280 is that there can be unity

00:41:15.660 and there was here

00:41:16.680 from different faiths,

00:41:18.160 different ethnicities.

00:41:19.360 This wasn't just

00:41:19.980 a religious war,

00:41:20.760 this wasn't a political war.

00:41:22.060 I've asked everybody

00:41:22.720 and they always have

00:41:23.280 a different explanation,

00:41:24.640 different reason,

00:41:25.620 but it's just a clash

00:41:26.680 of different ideologies,

00:41:28.540 of different ideas

00:41:30.420 of nationalism

00:41:31.040 all in one place

00:41:31.940 and eventually

00:41:32.480 things get corrupted

00:41:34.260 by specific people in power.

00:41:36.640 Greed, politicians,

00:41:37.740 these things,

00:41:38.740 that's what disrupts

00:41:39.860 the people

00:41:40.160 because people can exist,

00:41:41.360 can coexist

00:41:42.160 with different faiths,

00:41:43.460 different ethnicities.

00:41:44.120 The Balkans,

00:41:44.680 this region,

00:41:45.520 you have the Croats,

00:41:46.940 before this was Yugoslavia,

00:41:48.460 you have the Bosniaks, 1.00

00:41:50.660 you have the Serbs, 0.98

00:41:52.160 all different types

00:41:52.920 of people,

00:41:53.580 the Orthodox Catholics

00:41:54.840 and they were living

00:41:55.820 together fine

00:41:56.780 until you get

00:41:59.380 the ideas of communism

00:42:00.420 and then eruption.

00:42:05.920 So, no one,

00:42:06.880 like, so far,

00:42:07.620 nobody's given

00:42:08.100 a specific explanation

00:42:09.280 about why this happened.

00:42:10.620 Israel-Palestine,

00:42:11.400 you can explain why.

00:42:12.100 Zionism, 0.95

00:42:12.540 that's the reason,

00:42:13.560 right?

00:42:14.460 You can just simply

00:42:15.180 explain it there.

00:42:16.180 Here, it's like,

00:42:17.420 there's, you know,

00:42:19.100 the Yugoslavian,

00:42:20.220 the communism,

00:42:21.760 post-war,

00:42:22.620 from the Soviet Union

00:42:23.800 after World War II

00:42:24.660 when something started.

00:42:25.740 It seems like

00:42:26.300 there was a genocide

00:42:27.400 and there was a war

00:42:28.020 that happened

00:42:28.420 for no reason at all

00:42:29.500 because nothing

00:42:30.780 happened afterwards.

00:42:31.660 They fought for this land

00:42:32.800 and they didn't even take it.

00:42:33.840 They didn't even use it.

00:42:35.000 They just wanted 0.98

00:42:35.720 to kill each other 0.83

00:42:36.460 and then nothing changed.

00:42:40.060 And now people

00:42:40.700 are still living,

00:42:41.980 still coexisting,

00:42:43.220 but with resentment,

00:42:44.240 with hate,

00:42:44.580 and with loss.

00:42:46.460 So, the lesson

00:42:47.860 I've learned from Bosnia

00:42:49.140 is that unity is possible.

00:42:52.100 Unity is possible

00:42:52.860 as soon as we can

00:42:53.420 get rid of greed.

00:42:54.140 So far in my time,

00:42:55.080 I understood the pain

00:42:56.260 and the impact of the war.

00:42:57.820 Nobody could give me

00:42:58.460 a straight answer

00:42:59.140 about what happened

00:43:00.020 and why.

00:43:01.100 On the last day,

00:43:01.780 I was lucky enough

00:43:02.400 to find a man named

00:43:03.300 Haran Hotic,

00:43:04.200 a war commander

00:43:05.060 and somebody who had known

00:43:05.920 the president of Bosnia

00:43:07.020 during the war.

00:43:08.120 He led soldiers into battle,

00:43:09.680 had a unique perspective

00:43:10.660 on what the Serbs

00:43:11.480 were actually like,

00:43:12.600 and was hiding

00:43:13.080 in enemy territory

00:43:13.880 in the cold

00:43:14.460 for three days

00:43:15.120 without food and water.

00:43:16.340 This was the interview

00:43:17.060 that I needed,

00:43:17.840 and this is the interview

00:43:18.620 that put everything

00:43:19.260 into perspective.

00:43:20.620 Are you from Sarajevo?

00:43:22.340 Are you from Sarajevo?

00:43:23.200 No, I'm from Sarajevo.

00:43:24.080 He's from Sanđak,

00:43:26.300 which is in Serbia.

00:43:27.260 My parents live in Sanđaku.

00:43:29.140 It's a part that

00:43:30.720 has been occupied

00:43:32.060 and occupied

00:43:33.220 and had never heard

00:43:34.400 that it's Serbian.

00:43:35.760 Sanđak is a territory

00:43:37.000 on which the Bosnians live.

00:43:38.640 Most of the Bosnians live there.

00:43:40.860 My parents lived there

00:43:41.820 and I grew up there

00:43:42.820 and came to Sarajevo

00:43:44.460 and was living in Sarajevo

00:43:45.420 in 1985.

00:43:46.460 So, he's from Sanđak region

00:43:49.680 of Serbia,

00:43:50.680 which is predominantly Bosnia.

00:43:52.520 Bosnia accent, Serbia.

00:43:53.260 Yes.

00:43:53.680 Okay.

00:43:54.180 And he doesn't want to say

00:43:55.120 that it's actually Serbian.

00:43:56.120 He wants to say

00:43:56.600 that it's occupied

00:43:57.180 by Serbia.

00:43:58.120 He considers it to be

00:43:58.800 occupied by Serbia 0.89

00:43:59.460 and he's been living

00:44:00.120 in Sarajevo since 1985.

00:44:01.640 So, that's it.

00:44:02.960 Okay.

00:44:03.820 So, you're from Bosnia?

00:44:06.300 Yeah.

00:44:07.520 It's the most beautiful country

00:44:13.140 I agree.

00:44:14.680 One of them.

00:44:15.740 Saudi is close.

00:44:17.380 So, the Bosnians were Muslim,

00:44:19.360 the Kroos were Catholic

00:44:20.100 and the Serbs were Orthodox.

00:44:21.480 When did they separate

00:44:22.560 after they were the same people?

00:44:24.440 When did they separate

00:44:25.560 after they were the same people?

00:44:27.980 When did they start to call

00:44:29.020 Serbs, Croatians, Croatians? 0.57

00:44:31.400 In 1907,

00:44:36.280 the king of SHS

00:44:39.260 was banned by Bosnian language.

00:44:42.260 And the nation

00:44:45.260 as Bosnian language

00:44:46.120 was banned by Bosnian language.

00:44:47.260 It was the moment

00:44:48.020 when we, as Muslims,

00:44:49.260 we were in the dominant

00:44:50.680 in this country

00:44:51.260 and after the First World War

00:44:52.260 the first time

00:44:53.260 the story was intensified.

00:44:56.260 And, literally,

00:44:57.260 we had to stop

00:44:58.220 and we were not to stop.

00:45:00.260 We were in 70-80 years

00:45:03.200 and we were not to be

00:45:04.260 the nation as we, as Muslims,

00:45:06.260 we were not to be able

00:45:07.260 to be able to be

00:45:07.900 as Bosnian language.

00:45:08.260 We were not to be able

00:45:09.260 to be able to be able

00:45:10.260 to be able to be able

00:45:11.260 to be able to be able

00:45:13.260 to be able to dock

00:45:14.700 and therefore we were able

00:45:16.240 to be able to do it.

00:45:17.260 So, in 1907

00:45:18.260 is when the Bosnian language

00:45:23.260 when the Serbs, Proats

00:45:25.260 and Slovenes kingdoms

00:45:27.260 was founded

00:45:29.260 Bosnian language

00:45:30.260 was canceled by the Decree

00:45:31.260 and it was forbidden

00:45:32.260 to be used.

00:45:33.260 And that's when those

00:45:34.260 sort of people started

00:45:36.260 people started identifying differently and the Bosniak identity was sort of suppressed and it

00:45:40.500 was suppressed for the next 70 years. For almost 100 years it's as if we didn't exist at all.

00:45:49.380 After 19... from 1907 to 1990 is when the war started. That's when the Bosniak identity 1.00

00:45:54.420 came about 30 years ago. Okay why was the Bosnian identity suppressed?

00:46:06.260 The Europe wouldn't, the Christian Europe would not accept the organized indigenous Muslim European population in this area. 1.00

00:46:23.540 So is it possible to say that the reason the Bosniak were suppressed was simply because they're Muslim?

00:46:36.260 100%. Absolutely.

00:46:38.260 Absolutely.

00:46:40.260 And remember, they don't accept the European Muslims as a religious community.

00:46:46.260 They accept the Muslims as a politically organized community.

00:46:50.260 They're not... Europe does not mind Muslims existing as the religious community.

00:46:54.260 They mind them existing as the organized political community.

00:46:58.260 What's wrong with the organized political community of the Muslims? 1.00

00:47:02.260 We are the majority of the people in Bosnia and Herzegovina and which according to all of the international laws means that we have this country as our own, basically.

00:47:30.260 And Europe... we heard... Europe does not want to accept that.

00:47:34.260 But how does that affect Europe?

00:47:36.260 How does it affect Europe? Why is it a problem? Why is it a problem in Europe?

00:47:41.260 One day the Netherlands might become majority Muslim or something like that.

00:47:46.260 One day the Netherlands might become majority Muslim or something like that.

00:47:50.260 What's wrong with that? He understands. Why? Why is that wrong?

00:47:54.260 So?

00:47:56.260 Yeah.

00:47:57.260 Europe was set out by the Christian foundation.

00:48:04.260 And it's very difficult for it to accept differences.

00:48:10.260 So do you think Europe is threatened by Islam? 0.61

00:48:14.260 Do you think Europe is a threat of Muslims?

00:48:18.260 Absolutely.

00:48:19.260 Absolutely.

00:48:20.260 Before a few years, no?

00:48:22.260 What are they threatened by?

00:48:24.260 Because the Muslims here... I've spent a week here.

00:48:26.260 Nice people, respectful, good hospitality.

00:48:29.260 Islam and Christianity have the same values.

00:48:32.260 What are they afraid of when it comes to Islam and Bosniaks?

00:48:36.260 So they've been trying to scare Europeans by saying that it's... 0.54

00:48:40.260 Radicals and terrorism. 0.97

00:48:42.260 But what is it about actual Islam?

00:48:44.260 So if that's a lie, which they know it is, what are they threatened by by Islam specifically? 0.83

00:48:49.260 So they are threatened mostly by... common fog is mostly threatened by radicalism or the image that they have of Islam of being some Bedouin tribes that are slaying people with their teeth or something like that.

00:49:08.260 So they think it's some kind of wilderness and the lack of civilization that's coming with Islam together. 1.00

00:49:14.260 The ruling class, once it's gone, probably because they are threatened by the organized structure of Islam and everything else. 1.00

00:49:21.260 However, Bosniaks are starting to sort of break these stereotypes, especially in Europe and United States and all of those things,

00:49:27.260 considering we have people in the House of Lords in the United Kingdom.

00:49:32.260 We have people in the government of the Netherlands.

00:49:34.260 We have people in the government of the United States, especially Bosniaks, 1.00

00:49:37.260 and they are sort of starting to break these stereotypes of what Muslims are and what Muslims should be.

00:49:41.260 Can these religions coexist in Europe? Because I know Bosnia, they call it European Jerusalem. 0.98

00:49:47.260 Can that still happen? Is it possible?

00:49:50.260 Can these religions live together in peace?

00:49:54.260 Because Sarajevo is called European Salomon.

00:49:58.260 Definitely, we have fegued thisalar and when we have been the mostuche, we have been out of deveu.

00:50:06.260 The stage of the first step is creative.

00:50:08.260 We have to have to devise it.

00:50:10.260 And it's agile inside the wilderness from the crowds you need to forward in nature.

00:50:14.260 Thepect that we need to develop completely around.

00:50:16.260 always be a part of life, a part of tolerance, a part of life, a part of religion, and all the four

00:50:23.060 godomolje that, as he says, there is a Jerusalem, there is a part of the Stare Church, and the

00:50:28.260 Stare Church, and the Katedral of the Katolinsk, and the Synagogue, and the Ljostaloga, and our

00:50:32.860 Caravara and Begova džamija, which is to show the dominance of multikulture.

00:50:39.360 It's definitely a reality that after the war, all of these relationships between different religions have been sort of harmed to an extent, however, the spirit of multicultural Sarajevo is still sort of progressing even in this time today, which is

00:51:09.340 evident from the existence of the churches, from the existence of the old synagogue, from the existence of all of these different religions that have existed in Sarajevo.

00:51:16.340 It is something that needs to be worked on, which is evident from the works that the Islamic community of Bosnia-Herzegovina has been doing here, which is fostering this sort of relationship between different religions and different religious organizations in Bosnia-Herzegovina.

00:51:28.340 Today there was a hudba. 0.98

00:51:30.340 Today there was a hudba in the Friday. 0.67

00:51:32.340 Two thousand mosques in Bosnia-Herzegovina.

00:51:35.340 Two thousand mosques in Bosnia-Herzegovina.

00:51:38.340 You have no one of the same words in Bosnia-Herzegovina.

00:51:43.340 Not a single mosque in Bosnia-Herzegovina that had any harsh, radical or extremist war today.

00:51:48.340 Alhamdulillah.

00:51:49.340 The dirt keeps getting in my eyes because I'm trying to be cool and not have the shield.

00:52:03.340 There's a Bosnian myth that if you drink from the fountain, you're going to come back to Bosnia.

00:52:14.340 If you drink it twice, then you're going to get married in Bosnia. 0.99

00:52:17.340 So...

00:52:26.340 It's official like a whistle.

00:52:27.340 Inshallah.

00:52:28.340 What was your role in the war?

00:52:30.340 What was your role in the war?

00:52:31.340 What was your role in the war?

00:52:32.340 I was a soldier.

00:52:33.340 He was a soldier.

00:52:35.340 Someone who had to defend himself in a moment.

00:52:40.340 Someone who recognized the moment.

00:52:43.340 One moment in which he needed to step up and start defending his country.

00:52:46.340 I was 22 years old.

00:52:48.340 He was 22 years old.

00:52:49.340 23?

00:52:50.340 22.

00:52:51.340 22.

00:52:52.340 22.

00:52:53.340 I ended Gazi Husrebek at Medresa. 0.82

00:52:56.340 And he finished Gazi Husrebek's Medresa, which is high school here.

00:53:01.340 And I was supposed to save human souls.

00:53:06.340 But he had to take guns.

00:53:07.340 And then he had to make some very tough decisions.

00:53:19.340 They were growing up overnight.

00:53:21.340 And he believed that one year of war is worth ten years of regular life.

00:53:30.340 And when he was 23 years old in 1993, he became a commander of the battalion.

00:53:38.340 And he was coming up with very important and strict decisions.

00:53:45.340 And he was coming up with very important and strict decisions.

00:53:47.340 And everything was in accordance with all the conventions.

00:53:50.340 It was also women. 0.99

00:53:51.340 And with them, what did the missionary teach us?

00:53:54.340 But luckily, it was, of course, it was in conjunction with all of these different conventions.

00:53:59.340 Whether it's Geneva Convention or what our Prophet has taught us.

00:54:02.340 Even though our people went through horrible crimes, horrible war crimes committed against it.

00:54:12.340 Genocide and all of these things, we never returned with the same force. 0.72

00:54:15.340 We never turned down churches.

00:54:18.340 We never killed civilians.

00:54:20.340 We never killed civilians.

00:54:22.340 We didn't rape women. 1.00

00:54:23.340 We didn't kill children.

00:54:25.340 And all the courts in the world have finally shown that we have been truly acting in accordance with these conventions.

00:54:45.340 Even though there were some single-out commanders that they were trying to sort of frame for some crimes.

00:54:51.340 But that was just an attempt of the European community to equalize all these crimes. 0.85

00:54:55.340 Sometimes when I'm speaking about this first phase of the aggression towards Boston.

00:55:02.340 With Gaza? 0.97

00:55:03.340 Yeah.

00:55:04.340 He's comparing it with Gaza.

00:55:05.340 I was going to ask that.

00:55:06.340 Yes, sir.

00:55:07.340 Yes, sir.

00:55:08.340 You see genocide in life.

00:55:09.340 And today, you're seeing genocide live.

00:55:10.340 And today, when you're hearing those little Palestinian girls, what do they say?

00:55:11.340 Where are you Muslims?

00:55:12.340 Around Sarajevo.

00:55:13.340 270,000 people.

00:55:14.340 Without water.

00:55:15.340 Without food.

00:55:16.340 Every day, they are every day.

00:55:23.340 And today, when you're hearing those little Palestinian girls, what do they say?

00:55:28.680 Where are you, Muslims?

00:55:33.400 Around Sarajevo.

00:55:37.160 270,000 people.

00:55:40.940 Without water.

00:55:42.820 Without food.

00:55:45.900 Every day they're waiting for their own bullet.

00:55:47.720 After, on average, 320 grenades are falling a day on Sarajevo.

00:55:57.460 You know what my first thought was?

00:56:00.660 You know what was the worst?

00:56:03.520 The feeling that we are left alone.

00:56:06.040 And where are you, Muslims?

00:56:10.040 After 92,

00:56:12.780 Muslim world has awoken.

00:56:13.820 And he started organizing the help towards Bosnia and Herzegovina.

00:56:26.560 First time since the disappearance of the Hilafa, of the Muslims, 1.00

00:56:29.520 we finally managed to bring all of the Muslim countries together

00:56:32.980 to make one communal decision about Bosnia.

00:56:35.620 And that's why Bosnia and Herzegovina 0.63

00:56:38.780 favorite in the eyes of all Muslims around the world.

00:56:43.640 And especially when you, Muslims, coming from the West, 1.00

00:56:54.000 come to us here,

00:56:55.380 you start to see Bosnia in different eyes

00:56:57.920 and start to do a bit differently in life.

00:57:02.160 I'm going to say that it's first and foremost

00:57:04.800 the

00:57:05.320 the

00:57:05.840 the

00:57:06.880 the

00:57:06.920 the

00:57:06.940 the

00:57:07.660 the

00:57:07.940 the

00:57:08.000 the

00:57:08.100 the

00:57:08.940 the

00:57:09.940 the

00:57:10.940 the

00:57:11.940 the

00:57:12.000 the

00:57:12.940 the

00:57:13.940 the

00:57:14.940 the

00:57:15.940 the

00:57:16.940 the

00:57:17.940 the

00:57:18.940 the

00:57:19.940 the

00:57:20.940 the

00:57:21.940 the

00:57:22.940 the

00:57:23.940 thing that happened with Bosnia

00:57:25.180 to what's happening in Palestine.

00:57:26.940 How can we all that happen in Bosnia 1.00

00:57:28.960 and how can we do it for Palestine?

00:57:31.960 I have talked to a few days on a Turkish television

00:57:34.960 on a public television.

00:57:35.960 I invite all the Muslims to help

00:57:39.960 in any way to help the Palestinians.

00:57:42.960 He was speaking for a Turkish television the other day

00:57:45.960 and calling for all Muslims to help in any way that they can help.

00:57:48.960 Every type of help is valuable.

00:57:51.960 If they can't do anything, if they don't have any power in their hands that they can make it do at least.

00:57:59.980 And the Muslim world has to sort of correct that injustice that's being committed over the Palestinian people

00:58:10.980 and bring back their sovereign.

00:58:12.980 Without that there is no peace for anyone.

00:58:15.980 One thing I don't like about these tour guide

00:58:18.000 ATVs is the speed limit.

00:58:20.000 The people that get to go in front and back

00:58:23.000 who are leading you and making sure that your helmets are on

00:58:25.000 they don't have the limit.

00:58:26.000 There's some switch here, something here

00:58:28.000 where you can unlock

00:58:30.000 the 150cc like Mario Kart.

00:58:32.000 Right now we're going 50cc

00:58:33.000 and we're still here.

00:58:34.000 I find a way to complain about a lot of things

00:58:37.000 but I just want to get to the mountains.

00:58:39.020 I want to see the village.

00:58:50.020 God give me everything.

00:58:52.020 I know you guys don't like this.

00:58:54.020 Alhamdulillah.

00:58:56.020 How are you able to be a Muslim and be at war? 1.00

00:59:07.040 Kako ste uspjevali da budete musliman

00:59:09.040 i da usto vrijeme budete u ratu?

00:59:12.040 Kad se borite za pravu stvar

00:59:14.040 nema tu postavljanja pitanja.

00:59:17.040 When you're fighting for the real thing

00:59:18.040 there's no questions there.

00:59:19.040 Allahova milost je prisuta na svakom koraku.

00:59:21.040 God's mercy is present in every state.

00:59:23.040 Ono što imate obovecu prema Bogu

00:59:25.040 iz kori ono kao u svakodnevnom životu

00:59:28.040 spunjavate.

00:59:29.040 What you have responsibilities towards God

00:59:31.040 you do with them on everyday.

00:59:33.040 Allah je taj koji olakšava

00:59:35.040 a koji ne otežava.

00:59:36.040 And he is the one who makes it easy

00:59:38.040 and doesn't make it more difficult.

00:59:39.040 I nismo imali poseban feeling

00:59:42.040 u ratu biti musliman je bilo specifično.

00:59:44.040 And you had a particular feeling

00:59:46.040 during the war being a muslim was special.

00:59:48.040 Another very important thing

00:59:50.040 Our nation in 1992 was

00:59:52.040 a tough atheist regime 1.00

00:59:54.040 of communism

00:59:55.040 and it was a little muslim.

00:59:57.040 Our people were oppressed

00:59:59.040 by the atheist communist regime

01:00:00.040 before.

01:00:01.040 There were very few muslims

01:00:02.040 true believers in Bosnia.

01:00:04.040 we were born of course

01:00:31.040 pain came back to god and came back to islam so quickly out of this atheist sort of thinking and

01:00:35.840 everything else that has existed here and as you can see all of the mosques today in the for juma

01:00:40.240 prayers all of the mosques are full even today for isha prayer the mosques are full and people are

01:00:45.040 coming in and going out so who's to blame for the war was it the communists is it the serbians 0.98

01:00:50.880 whose fault was the genocid

01:01:01.040 and the great serbian uh great creation and the great serbian sort of ideas and ideologies in which

01:01:30.640 bosnia should become part of those those those world and uh and the deal that is existing between 0.97

01:01:36.400 lošević and tujman to divide bosnia into how were the the enemy forces like because we've traveled

01:01:44.160 we've seen some horrific things we've seen the the firing lines we've seen the grave sites and from

01:01:49.280 the way people describe it it was genocide it was terrible and it doesn't seem like it was it was

01:01:54.480 justified at all it seems like it was they were taking houses that they didn't even use

01:01:59.200 why were they what was it as evil as people are describing

01:02:03.520 you can talk about it for days uh in the during the war especially they came the first time

01:02:09.280 of the war

01:02:13.520 was that bosnia acts in here actually remainder of the turks that came in here and that they are all to be

01:02:28.880 exterminated and kicked out of here and at the most when once you once you actually look at it look

01:02:46.960 look at the way it was functioning and everything else the the first the first uh thing that they did was

01:02:53.600 pillage and steal things then they tried to do this say the state and the other part was killing

01:02:59.280 conquest and the sadism too which they organized these camps and everything else and most of the

01:03:04.320 places in which they did these things where the people actually just gave themselves in and turned

01:03:08.960 themselves into them and then that's when they decided to sort of do all these sadistic things to

01:03:13.600 them rape and just just abuse in the most horrible ways possible and just sort of use this hate he also

01:03:20.640 believes that uh that serbs are to this day learning some things that are you know hateful towards 0.99

01:03:28.160 muslims and all of those things and uh yeah and in the battlefield he believes that they were cowards

01:03:34.160 and they didn't they didn't they didn't live up to the expectations of the true warriors 0.92

01:03:39.120 is it possible if you can show us the video you've shown before him doing the taklir

01:03:42.480 is it possible jel moguće da pokažete namo na video gjerste štite pokazival prije kama takbirato

01:03:47.520 haha može može što da ne

01:03:51.840 a voje transport moj jedinice helipot karon

01:03:54.480 skimari k proto

01:04:02.800 pato

01:04:07.520 paan

01:04:10.400 The first president came to visit his brigade.

01:04:40.400 The second battalion is engaged in the brigade of the brigade.

01:04:50.400 The commander, were you a commander here or a soldier here?

01:04:58.400 The commander here.

01:05:01.400 That's the president?

01:05:05.400 What's the name of the president?

01:05:08.400 The president was speaking.

01:05:10.400 He was saying...

01:05:14.400 Alija Izogluvić, first president.

01:05:16.400 This is a special man.

01:05:20.400 This is the man who is the enemy.

01:05:24.400 Alija Izogluvić, who is the doctor.

01:05:26.400 He was very old.

01:05:30.400 Alija said, and I was saying,

01:05:32.400 Tekvir.

01:05:34.400 The president was speaking.

01:05:36.400 We are speaking,

01:05:38.400 we are defender of our struggle for freedom.

01:05:43.400 I will speak with Behogluvić.

01:05:44.400 Elija Izogluvić...

01:05:45.400 It's putlined within GitHub U área.

01:05:47.400 The current mixtning is very UFC...

01:05:49.400 His name is your 7th group of Muslims. 0.87

01:05:53.400 Only you!

01:05:55.400 Allahu Akbar!

01:05:57.400 Only you!

01:06:03.400 I live in Sarajevo.

01:06:05.400 He was a G.

01:06:09.400 You were a G.

01:06:11.400 Gangster, probably.

01:06:13.400 Gangster? No, no, no.

01:06:15.400 This is my daughter.

01:06:17.400 My daughter.

01:06:19.400 This is her daughter.

01:06:21.400 When she gets married,

01:06:23.400 she's going to give her as a dowry G. 0.99

01:06:25.400 Gangster?

01:06:27.400 Yes.

01:06:29.400 When she gets married,

01:06:31.400 she's going to give her as a dowry G. 0.99

01:06:37.400 Gangster?

01:06:39.400 Yes.

01:06:41.400 Do you know why?

01:06:43.400 Why?

01:06:45.400 We want to send a difficult message.

01:06:47.400 We want to make sure that we are never going to be victims again.

01:06:51.400 We want to clearly show that we are never going to be victims again.

01:06:55.400 Inshalom. 0.85

01:06:57.400 What was the most important thing you learned in the war?

01:07:01.400 What was the most important thing you learned in the war?

01:07:03.400 The reliance on God.

01:07:07.400 I had one action.

01:07:09.400 He had one action.

01:07:11.400 He was alone in the Chetting territory, in the enemy territory, Serbian territory.

01:07:17.400 It was the December of 1992.

01:07:19.400 Minus.

01:07:21.400 The most important thing were to do 20 degrees.

01:07:23.400 At night, the minuses were up to minus 20 degrees.

01:07:27.400 Imagine, when you go to that time, you go to four days and four nights without any water, without any water, without any water, without any water or anything like that.

01:07:39.400 Three days and three nights completely alone.

01:07:41.400 Three days and three nights completely alone.

01:07:43.400 No food, no water?

01:07:45.400 No food, no water.

01:07:47.400 Winter.

01:07:49.400 No food, no water, no fire, nothing.

01:07:51.400 And you are alone with your Lord.

01:07:55.400 Only Allah. 0.91

01:07:57.400 Nothing.

01:07:59.400 If it's up to God to survive, you're going to survive.

01:08:06.400 For me, it was an action in which I have lived as a jekin. 0.97

01:08:11.400 As a belief.

01:08:13.400 There is a term.

01:08:14.400 Jekin.

01:08:15.400 That action for him was truly jekin in his faith.

01:08:19.400 Which is jekin is the term that is true understanding of faith.

01:08:23.400 That is the best way to explain that is when Musa is telling his Lord.

01:08:33.400 Lord, can I see you finally?

01:08:35.400 I believe, but let me see you.

01:08:38.400 Yes, I believe, but let me see you.

01:08:40.400 We, as Muslims, always in our faith we have the last question.

01:08:45.400 How does the Lord determine everything?

01:08:48.400 And us Muslims always the last question that we have is often how does God do all of those things?

01:08:53.400 How is God?

01:08:54.400 I have lived through that and understood that in a way that, and explained it to myself in a way that it's only because God is so merciful.

01:09:08.400 And when I became aware that I actually survived all of that, I did the sujud there, in the clean, in the prayer on the pure Bosnian soil.

01:09:23.400 And the sweetness of that sujud I never felt until today again. 0.95

01:09:33.400 And that is the moment of gratitude to God for another chance.

01:09:40.400 Thank you.

01:09:44.400 Thank you.

01:09:46.400 Thank you so much.

01:09:48.400 We just arrived in the Bosnian village, avoided the thunder and the rain.

01:09:52.400 This looks like a Minecraft village, but we have not eaten in a while.

01:09:55.400 It was a long trek over here.

01:09:57.400 And this is away from all of civilization.

01:10:00.400 I doubt there's internet connection here.

01:10:02.400 I doubt there's any McDonald's here.

01:10:05.400 This looks like it's been preserved for a long time.

01:10:08.400 I have no idea.

01:10:09.400 Can we, can I ride in the horse?

01:10:11.400 Yeah.

01:10:12.400 How much?

01:10:13.400 Ten.

01:10:14.400 Free for me.

01:10:15.400 Me.

01:10:16.400 Okay.

01:10:17.400 Bismillah.

01:10:18.400 Okay.

01:10:19.400 Come on, boy.

01:10:21.400 He's fast.

01:10:22.400 This is a fast horse.

01:10:23.400 Oh, man.

01:10:24.400 Hey, hey.

01:10:25.400 Good boy.

01:10:26.400 Good girl or boy?

01:10:27.400 Boy.

01:10:28.400 Grill.

01:10:29.400 Girl.

01:10:30.400 Grill.

01:10:31.400 Good grill.

01:10:32.400 Good grill.

01:10:33.400 Good grill.

01:10:34.400 Good grill.

01:10:35.400 Yeah.

01:10:36.400 Good grill.

01:10:37.400 Good grill.

01:10:38.400 Good grill.

01:10:39.400 How are you?

01:10:40.400 So?

01:10:41.400 Yeah.

01:10:42.400 Which one?

01:10:43.400 How much?

01:10:44.400 Free?

01:10:45.400 Graz.

01:10:46.400 Graz?

01:10:47.400 Yeah.

01:10:48.400 Alhamdulillah.

01:10:49.400 Nicolai.

01:10:50.400 Nicolai.

01:10:51.400 Nicolai.

01:10:52.400 Yeah.

01:10:53.400 You want one?

01:10:54.400 Here.

01:10:55.400 Tequila.

01:10:56.400 Tequila. 0.89

01:10:57.400 Muslim.

01:10:58.400 Muslim.

01:10:59.400 I mean Muslim.

01:11:00.400 You too.

01:11:01.400 You all Muslim. 0.63

01:11:02.400 Yeah.

01:11:03.400 Hey Muslim.

01:11:04.400 It's okay.

01:11:05.400 It's okay.

01:11:06.400 It's okay.

01:11:07.400 It's okay.

01:11:08.400 It's okay.

01:11:09.400 I want to be Muslim.

01:11:11.400 I'm a Muslim.

01:11:12.400 I'm a Muslim.

01:11:13.400 No Muslim, yeah. 1.00

01:11:14.600 Hey, Muslim. 0.99

01:11:15.500 Oh, there you go. 0.86

01:11:17.200 It's okay, it's okay.

01:11:18.000 No war here.

01:11:18.900 Havala.

01:11:19.400 No war here?

01:11:21.700 No.

01:11:22.700 Why not?

01:11:24.000 Why did the Serbs not come here?

01:11:26.200 I don't know.

01:11:28.100 You don't know?

01:11:28.900 Maybe they didn't want to take, because there is no people here.

01:11:32.800 Not houses like this.

01:11:34.300 Yeah.

01:11:35.000 What do Americans not know about Bosnia?

01:11:38.000 What I know.

01:11:39.000 You don't know?

01:11:40.000 I don't know.

01:11:40.800 Okay, Havala.

01:11:41.600 Thank you.

01:11:43.000 Okay.

01:11:46.500 Thank you very much.

01:11:47.500 Salaamu alaikum.

01:11:48.500 Salaamu alaikum.

01:11:49.500 I want you.

01:11:50.500 You want?

01:11:51.000 Yes.

01:11:51.500 What's your name?

01:11:52.000 Samir.

01:11:52.500 Nice to meet you, Samir.

01:11:54.500 You're.

01:11:55.500 Sneeko. 0.54

01:11:56.500 From America. 0.94

01:11:57.500 I've seen you on TikTok.

01:11:58.500 You have?

01:11:59.500 Yeah.

01:12:00.000 Oh, cool.

01:12:01.500 I've seen you on TikTok.

01:12:03.500 No, I haven't.

01:12:05.300 Not yet.

01:12:05.800 Are you?

01:12:06.500 I'm not playing on TikTok.

01:12:08.500 Okay.

01:12:09.500 I'm not playing on TikTok.

01:12:11.000 I'm not playing on TikTok.

01:12:12.000 I'm not playing on TikTok.

01:12:13.000 I'm not playing on TikTok.

01:12:14.000 Wait.

01:12:15.000 Oh, God.

01:12:16.000 Okay.

01:12:17.000 so it seems like this village was untouched during the war it was a refuge i don't know

01:12:26.160 why they didn't come here because if i wanted to seize land i would definitely see something like

01:12:29.500 this but at the same time this could all be new even though it looks like it could be old it's

01:12:33.300 like all this was built by hand in a way i think it's a little bit sad that you see the kids know

01:12:38.000 me from tiktok here because i want this place to be untouched by the outside world to have zero

01:12:43.060 influence of any of the zog machine 0.99

01:12:46.580 it still reaches here but it's it's clearly a sanctuary away from the noise

01:12:58.180 how are you where are you from the uae i am from kuwait uae assalamualaikum from kuwait thank

01:13:09.160 you so kind i know i need the date do you have date that's how you're supposed to eat it right

01:13:18.360 with the date oh okay

01:13:19.720 with the sweet okay bismillah yes man muslim jadeed why are you in bosnia

01:13:29.200 for nature for what nature nature nature first time here no no 10th time 10th time oh okay

01:13:38.080 one two three yes yes your dad didn't want to give interview oh because he doesn't like camera

01:13:52.320 he doesn't no he likes to be recorded that he doesn't like to talk about war oh okay okay

01:14:01.040 because he was in the war um a soldier at 17. he was a soldier at 17. yes oh okay have you seen pictures

01:14:10.800 of him in the war yeah it's hard to talk about the war yeah what has he told you about the war

01:14:18.800 he's a hero he's a hero you have a strong dad uh they burned his house in the uh over here

01:14:26.720 village village yeah where he lived before yeah and then uh he was in the war because in point

01:14:35.680 sadistan yeah wasn't attacked before uh 1993. so he must have bad memories yeah but he's still strong

01:14:46.080 he said that's that's very good oh yeah he also saved that guy they left everybody left him but

01:14:56.000 he went and saved he went and saved the guy did he lose any legs or arms he's okay

01:15:02.720 he's been really hurt and all of his soldiers he's been there laughing but my dad and he's there put him

01:15:12.160 on back on back and on his back yes and he carries him that must be really heavy how far did he have

01:15:19.680 to walk with him i don't know he just told he saved somebody and uh and my father is say that man is

01:15:27.040 been two meters tall two meters tall yes that's taller than me wow strong guy you got a good dad

01:15:35.120 but i understand he doesn't want to talk about it here let's take picture let's take picture what's your

01:15:40.000 name mirza what's your name i told him before i forgot summer here like this fight pose

01:15:52.560 next year summer it's unfortunately time to go and i just learned that there's no electricity here

01:15:57.840 they don't have fridges there's no lights just generators sunlight living completely off of the

01:16:02.480 land this is what it's like to be a minecraft villager what it's like to be away from civilization

01:16:06.960 so don't come here do not come to bosnia if you're weird if you're annoying if you don't believe in

01:16:11.600 god stay away this is the sanctuary for people that are based 1.00

01:16:19.520 in the quran it teaches that death is inevitable that it's a part of life and something that we're

01:16:24.240 supposed to embrace something that the muslim is supposed to think about every day while the 0.97

01:16:29.040 disbeliever fears death thinking it's the end the believer knows that it's only a part of life

01:16:33.920 bosnia is scattered with death perhaps making the people appreciate life more i became comfortable

01:16:41.840 with death in bosnia there's something very comforting about a place with friendly ghosts

SNEAKO - August 24, 2024

LETTER FROM BOSNIA

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