SNEAKO - January 05, 2023


Liberal Group Decides Who Is The Most Medicated...

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In this episode, we talk about meds and how they affect our mental health. Who is the most medicated and who is the least medicated? We also talk about our experience with medication and how it affects us.

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00:00:00 Who is the most medicated, Jubilee?
00:00:09 We all look deceiving.
00:00:12 What does it mean to look medicated?
00:00:14 Well, because if you look medicated,
00:00:16 you can appear healthy because you're medicated.
00:00:18 Or white.
00:00:19 People probably see my tattoos and piercings
00:00:21 and also my age.
00:00:23 They're like, okay, well, you're obviously spiraling
00:00:25 a little bit, so you probably take meds.
00:00:27 So I'll be four.
00:00:29 Yeah, I feel like you're middle-ish.
00:00:32 I guess I'm excited to see what everyone is going to be like,
00:00:36 who's going to be on medication, who's not really.
00:00:38 Do they consider antidepressants medication?
00:00:39 A lot of people don't really present like they're on medication.
00:00:43 At least a lot of people that I know,
00:00:44 you would never guess that they were on medication.
00:00:46 I feel like you'd probably be there, like, just right before me.
00:00:52 Oh, like right here? Or in front of you?
00:00:53 No, yeah, like right here.
00:00:54 Okay.
00:00:55 Can I say I think I should move up just a little bit?
00:00:58 Maybe like right before you.
00:01:01 I feel like I could be like towards like the least.
00:01:03 Yes, okay.
00:01:04 All right, all right.
00:01:06 Let's just say like the least.
00:01:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:01:08 If it's based on appearance or anything like that,
00:01:10 like maybe like here or there.
00:01:12 Yeah, I think this is the right position.
00:01:14 Okay.
00:01:15 I think we're good.
00:01:16 You can lock this in.
00:01:17 Yeah.
00:01:18 Okay.
00:01:22 My experience with medication was
00:01:24 my parents were very much against it as a child,
00:01:27 But some things happened and we were like,
00:01:29 okay, he kind of needs it.
00:01:31 Yeah.
00:01:32 I grew up in a Japanese household, very traditional.
00:01:35 And so a lot of times, like you would be told like,
00:01:37 oh, if you take like these certain like herbal medications
00:01:39 or if you drink certain teas,
00:01:41 like it can like cure a lot of ailments.
00:01:43 Bro, this dude, the soy boy has a, 1.00
00:01:45 I didn't even peep the sweater.
00:01:47 Herbal medications or if you drink certain-
00:01:48 What bro, imagine being proud.
00:01:51 Imagine that being a defining personality trait.
00:01:53 Like it can like cure a lot of-
00:01:55 This guy wins, most medicated.
00:01:57 Ailments.
00:01:58 I come from like a religious background
00:02:00 that isn't like a traditional Christian 0.99
00:02:01 or Shintoism or Buddhism.
00:02:03 The philosophy behind that religion 0.89
00:02:05 is if you think something negative,
00:02:07 it will manifest physically.
00:02:09 And so a lot of times it came down to like
00:02:10 blaming myself for being sick,
00:02:12 even if it wasn't like truly my fault.
00:02:15 I actually survived a massacre.
00:02:17 Yeah, well, I live in Colorado
00:02:19 and then there's a theater shooting there.
00:02:21 So then I was actually a direct victim of it.
00:02:23 I didn't really get exposed to like medication
00:02:26 until like more recently,
00:02:28 but it was kind of like all these underlying issues
00:02:30 that like built up since then.
00:02:31 You get like really numb when you're like surrounded
00:02:34 by like people who are like always worried about you.
00:02:36 You develop like almost like a DID
00:02:39 or dissociative identity disorder.
00:02:41 It's just kind of like them just throwing stuff at you
00:02:43 and just being like, oh, maybe this will work.
00:02:46 Were any of you guys introduced into medication
00:02:48 off of like physical injury or mental?
00:02:51 Injuries or mental issues.
00:02:52 there's also physical like disability as well so yes like a little bit of each so I come from an
00:03:01 African household also but surprising enough if I wasn't really like introduced to it because
00:03:09 everything was like natural remedies and just like oh I don't think it's that serious so we'll
00:03:14 stay home instead you know when I was younger like my parents like we're okay with me like
00:03:21 taking stuff for my physical needs.
00:03:23 As I got older, they were very against medication
00:03:27 for like mental health at first.
00:03:28 And I think still honestly,
00:03:30 my parents are against medication for like mental health.
00:03:34 There's also physical like disability as well.
00:03:36 So it's kind of like a chain reaction
00:03:38 with some of these things.
00:03:39 It's like one thing caused another thing,
00:03:41 which caused injury.
00:03:43 So that, and that injury caused a need for medication
00:03:46 cause it caused another thing.
00:03:48 I only recently got my first, I guess medication
00:03:51 when I was 15.
00:03:52 It was really hard for me to, I guess,
00:03:54 accept that I needed help.
00:03:55 I'm not someone that really likes help,
00:03:56 but when it came to just like doing certain daily tasks
00:04:00 that I needed to do,
00:04:01 like I needed something to like help me,
00:04:04 I guess, regulate that.
00:04:05 Cause I was definitely going down a path
00:04:07 that was not a good one.
00:04:10 I feel like you might be a little ahead.
00:04:13 I really think you're like less.
00:04:15 You think I'm, I feel like he's good.
00:04:17 No, I think I should move up.
00:04:20 I really think I should.
00:04:21 Yeah, you seem confident about being higher.
00:04:23 Yeah, but I don't think I'm the top.
00:04:25 Okay.
00:04:25 I'm on the top right now.
00:04:26 So you're just being modest.
00:04:27 Do you think you're the most medicated?
00:04:29 I feel like, I don't know,
00:04:31 I think it may be between you and me right now.
00:04:35 I'm depressed, I'm anxious.
00:04:37 Okay, for me, I've had anxiety throughout my whole life.
00:04:41 Elementary school, all of middle school,
00:04:42 up until like freshman year of high school, end of it,
00:04:45 is when I got a diagnosis of ADHD.
00:04:48 Based off like what you said,
00:04:49 I would probably put you...
00:04:50 Chad, who here was diagnosed with ADHD and took pills?
00:04:54 I guess put you somewhere, maybe here?
00:04:56 Yeah.
00:04:56 I would probably be on this side.
00:04:57 Okay.
00:04:58 Maybe.
00:04:58 I actually was left undiagnosed for almost like a decade.
00:05:02 It was like until this year, I was just like,
00:05:04 man, I can't focus on a single thing,
00:05:06 you know, panic attacks and all that stuff.
00:05:08 So I actually went to the therapist under a victim comp.
00:05:10 Pretty much they diagnosed me with, you know,
00:05:12 the Holy Trinity, the ADHD, depression, anxiety,
00:05:17 and then PTSD, of course.
00:05:18 I came from a culture where it's just like, you don't want to bother people.
00:05:22 And that's like what my mom always would tell me is just like, don't bother someone else, don't bother someone else.
00:05:26 I think that's another thing that kind of empowered the sort of numbing.
00:05:29 Everyone grieving for you, and you don't want them to.
00:05:31 And you don't want to be in that position where like you have to tell them that it's okay, that you're like still there.
00:05:36 And then just trying to comfort them rather than them comforting you.
00:05:39 I think that you should go ahead and cha-cha your way to it.
00:05:42 All right.
00:05:43 Cha-cha. 1.00
00:05:44 I'm like, go ahead.
00:05:45 I had mental health problems growing up as a child. I actually had like really severe OCD and
00:05:52 it went undiagnosed. OCD is not real. For a really long time, I have major depressive order and
00:05:57 anxiety. Yeah, you got everything. Everything's wrong with you. So I got diagnosed with that when
00:06:02 I was around 20. But that doesn't mean it's real. This year, I actually got diagnosed with
00:06:07 gastroparesis. You just don't work. It basically means that my stomach is either partially or
00:06:13 fully paralyzed let's say for example like let's say your stomach is done
00:06:16 digesting like four hours let's say that right my stomach will take eight hours
00:06:21 for example and usually it doesn't contract it just uses acid alone and so
00:06:26 sometimes I kind of like joke about this but like it's not super funny but
00:06:30 sometimes I'm like oh if you guys want to see a magic trick give me like an
00:06:33 hour and I could throw my food back up whole
00:06:36 I don't want to see a magic trick but that's very interesting
00:06:41 thank you for offering though
00:06:43 I'll keep it here
00:06:46 it was how she said he was put on ADHD meds
00:06:49 I was and my schoolmate was put on them
00:06:50 and since then he was never the same guy
00:06:52 I'm still furious of what they did to him
00:06:53 just cause he couldn't listen in class
00:06:55 crime 0.99
00:06:56 bro that shit really messed up my head back in the day 0.99
00:06:58 I couldn't eat 0.99
00:07:00 I couldn't sleep
00:07:02 I felt like a robot
00:07:04 I think that's part of the reason why I'm sticko 0.99
00:07:07 than I am
00:07:08 at the very least.
00:07:09 Okay, yeah, so if you're gonna put it Kevin, then for now.
00:07:11 I like how we're just putting everyone just in the middle
00:07:13 right after we hear their story.
00:07:14 It's just like, all right.
00:07:15 We're back.
00:07:16 Oh, I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was six.
00:07:19 I was off medication for a while because when I was 11,
00:07:22 I was diagnosed with restrictive cardiomyopathy,
00:07:25 which is a disorder in the heart.
00:07:27 And a year later, I got a heart transplant.
00:07:29 I feel like you might be higher then.
00:07:31 Because I was- I agree.
00:07:32 I am inclined to move up or stay up higher.
00:07:35 I think we should hear your thing first.
00:07:38 So I've made a depressive disorder and anxiety and PTSD,
00:07:43 but I've also struggled with...
00:07:45 PTSD.
00:07:46 Remember that used to be for soldiers in the war,
00:07:48 and now it's for a girl who got broken up,
00:07:50 a girl who got cheated on as PTSD.
00:07:52 With addiction, and I'll be three years sober on November 2nd.
00:07:57 Congrats.
00:08:00 They're just like clapping her failures.
00:08:02 Oh, okay, she's sober.
00:08:04 but they've never actually had a real problem i mean they have easy lives and like this becomes
00:08:09 their personality it becomes their defining personality traits i want to talk about is um
00:08:12 i also have a rare chronic illness um it's kind of like narcolepsy it's called like idiopathic
00:08:18 hypersomnia and um i basically just making shit up we feel like i haven't slept for 24 to 48 hours
00:08:25 every single day but there's there's only one medication that's fda approved for it so it's
00:08:31 been a struggle but i'm finally able to like hold a job and i'm going to school also so yeah i feel
00:08:38 like she should be in front of me but behind her i feel like you should be either above me or next
00:08:44 to me yeah the only reason why is because i feel like um a lot of the stuff that you're dealing
00:08:48 with also includes a lot of more verbal therapy i want to hear your story because a lot of these
00:08:53 mental illnesses are because they live in the first world country don't have real problems if 0.55
00:08:55 they spend a month in africa i guarantee 99% of their illnesses would go away you're right you're
00:09:00 Right. That's why like when Matt Walsh said, what is a woman? 0.95
00:09:02 And he went to the Maasai tribe and he asked him, can like a man become a woman?
00:09:07 Can a man become a woman? 1.00
00:09:08 And everybody, they laughed away at that question because these are all problems that just happen in the first world where you have so much time.
00:09:18 Like there's no other problems.
00:09:20 When you actually have to hunt to survive and you revert to your generals, all this disappears.
00:09:26 Nobody has OCD in Africa.
00:09:28 I don't think I'm the most medicated, but I can't get to read, you know?
00:09:32 I think the first diagnosis I got was like anxiety, depression,
00:09:37 but they didn't do any sort of psychiatric testing.
00:09:39 They just kind of looked at me and they were like, man, weird.
00:09:43 Vassofagosyncope, aerophagia.
00:09:45 I just recently got diagnosed with autism and ADHD.
00:09:48 That's all else.
00:09:49 Autism and ADHD?
00:09:51 And that's quite enough, I think.
00:09:54 Do you guys want to be medicated?
00:09:56 I don't want to take medicine it's hard to keep up with you know it's like
00:10:02 paying a subscription to live. As long as they're giving me a better quality of
00:10:05 life and better as a person and want to live then I want to take my meds. When I
00:10:12 first started getting sober I was in a rehab and they prescribed me like a
00:10:18 whole bunch of different medications but I believe that without those medications
00:10:22 for my addiction that I wouldn't be sober today.
00:10:25 So it like really helped save my life.
00:10:28 I want having to take medications to be like the last resort
00:10:31 and I want to go through all the possible things
00:10:33 that I could do before.
00:10:34 I feel like we're all aware that the more medicine
00:10:36 that doctors give you, the more money they're making.
00:10:39 So I don't know, it's like a trust issue type of thing,
00:10:41 but also like if I really need it,
00:10:43 like of course like for pain and whatnot,
00:10:44 but again, let's go through all the things that,
00:10:46 you know, I could do it if those don't work
00:10:48 for like helping me, all right, then give me the thumbs.
00:10:51 So obviously I don't want to be on medication
00:10:53 because it costs money,
00:10:54 but I'm not a big fan of medical.
00:10:55 Yeah, you do.
00:10:57 You don't want to take personal responsibility
00:10:58 so you cling on to these illnesses.
00:11:00 But I've never personally had a bad experience,
00:11:02 but I know that that's not the case for most people.
00:11:05 Cause no, Dylan, you trust it, so.
00:11:07 Yeah.
00:11:09 Like you have the trust.
00:11:10 I trust it, but maybe I don't like, you know,
00:11:13 certain side effects from certain things.
00:11:15 You know, I was unmedicated for 15 to 18 years,
00:11:19 depending on how you look at it.
00:11:20 I feel like I'm probably lower than you.
00:11:22 There's a high chance.
00:11:24 I'm okay with this.
00:11:25 Yes, okay.
00:11:26 I'm good.
00:11:26 Okay, we're good.
00:11:27 Locked in.
00:11:32 In seventh, Mary.
00:11:34 I told you vaccinated dude was gonna win.
00:11:36 Come on, please be right.
00:11:38 Some W this stream.
00:11:39 Six, Dylan.
00:11:43 Dang, guys.
00:11:44 Eight, fifth, seventh,
00:11:47 Okay.
00:11:48 I knew it.
00:11:49 So now what we're going to do, we're going to go to what you're actually taking.
00:12:04 This would be a good reference video.
00:12:07 I could show the doctors real quick and appointments when they need to get the list.
00:12:11 That's the most annoying part of it.
00:12:13 I guess down the line again?
00:12:14 Yeah, let's start with Mary. 0.93
00:12:16 Well, I take no medications.
00:12:19 I feel like if I've been all those years being unmedicated,
00:12:21 I'm still fine, I'm still here living.
00:12:23 I could do, you know, a couple more decades.
00:12:25 I will definitely continue to keep going down
00:12:27 the holistic path, but it's also, I'm open to medications.
00:12:31 I take one medication, take Vyvanse for ADHD.
00:12:35 It just helps me with impulse control and all that.
00:12:38 I'm actually on three medications.
00:12:39 This is like the thing that's mainly changing
00:12:41 is the antidepressants.
00:12:43 Of course, you know, Adderall for the ADHD.
00:12:46 And when I'm too wired, they also put me on a terazodone.
00:12:49 So it's pretty much just like, here's an upper,
00:12:50 here's a downer, and here's like-
00:12:52 You're taking Zanz and Addy at the same time.
00:12:54 I don't feel depressed.
00:12:55 I take five.
00:12:56 I take, this is called Zofran.
00:12:59 I also take this one.
00:13:00 This is called Bremron.
00:13:02 This is Ativan.
00:13:03 I also take a sclocolamine patch.
00:13:04 And then my last one, which is my primary medication,
00:13:07 Motilium, this one is actually not legal in the USA.
00:13:10 It's not FDA approved.
00:13:12 And the reason for that is because it causes-
00:13:14 Did you just snitch on yourself live?
00:13:16 ...chance of a heart attack and stroke.
00:13:19 So I get EKGs done just to make sure that I'm still within safe levels.
00:13:23 Would you be able to survive without that medication?
00:13:27 Currently, no, because it's the only known medication to treat my condition.
00:13:32 Without it, there's a good chance I'll have to stay hospitalized for fluids and liquids.
00:13:36 I could not sustain myself.
00:13:38 I basically was diagnosed recently with gastroparesis.
00:13:41 You can even identify it as like a really mild form of like organ failure.
00:13:46 My stomach either is fully paralyzed or partially paralyzed.
00:13:49 And so the way I digest, I rely on the acid in my stomach and I can't rely on the mechanics of it.
00:13:56 I take seven. I don't have that many meds, guys.
00:13:58 So I also take Zofran. I take this as needed.
00:14:01 I also take something called Armidafinil. I take Clonidate and Nite.
00:14:05 I also take Eupropion or Wellbutrin for my depression.
00:14:10 Something called Synthroid.
00:14:11 And last one is just the Cyclovir for a virus that I have,
00:14:16 and I take this every single day.
00:14:17 So I take eight medications.
00:14:19 First is one of the main ones,
00:14:21 Chacrolimus, better known as Prograf.
00:14:23 Another immunosuppressor is Cirolimus.
00:14:26 And then a lot of medications are just to quell side effects
00:14:28 of these two.
00:14:29 First is Diltiazim.
00:14:31 Addervastatin, also known as Lipitor.
00:14:34 I forgot exactly what this one does.
00:14:36 Bare Aspirin, Licinopril, I also take Adderall.
00:14:40 Last one, I promise.
00:14:41 This is vitamin D3.
00:14:43 That's everything.
00:14:45 So close.
00:14:46 So close.
00:14:48 Yeah.
00:14:49 This one is a Zulane patch.
00:14:50 This is a birth control.
00:14:52 This is the fifth birth control I've been on.
00:14:54 This is Topamax.
00:14:55 This is for both from chronic migraines
00:14:59 and also I got a higher dosage
00:15:01 because I developed motor tics.
00:15:02 Midadryl.
00:15:03 How are you alive?
00:15:05 Is the one medication I am on for fainting
00:15:07 from my blood pressure.
00:15:08 There we got gabapentin.
00:15:09 I just got prescribed this one for like panic attacks
00:15:12 and stuff and also for chronic pain.
00:15:14 But Juniper got prescribed the same thing.
00:15:17 Cymbalta, this is Immatrex for emergency
00:15:19 for really bad migraines.
00:15:21 This is a nasal spray for allergies.
00:15:24 This is an inhaler.
00:15:26 And then this is Singulair.
00:15:27 And then Aerophagia, like an acid reducer.
00:15:30 Wow, we could be like an ad for Big Pharma right now.
00:15:38 I don't know, I feel like sometimes
00:15:39 have to like justify my problems to be like no it actually is something that is a problem i had an
00:15:44 employer when i first got diagnosed and he was actually like really rude about it and he told
00:15:48 like everybody like oh she's probably just pregnant people won't always like look at you and think like
00:15:52 you are definitely somebody who is medicated you know i just wish people could see that like
00:15:57 just because you can't see an illness just because it's invisible doesn't mean it doesn't exist
00:16:01 do you have any final thoughts you'd like to impart on someone who might be watching
00:16:06 I mean, I really just...
00:16:07 So close, so close.
00:16:13 That's it.
00:16:14 Is this your job?