SNEAKO - January 05, 2023


Liberal Group Decides Who Is The Most Medicated...


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In this episode, we talk about meds and how they affect our mental health. Who is the most medicated and who is the least medicated? We also talk about our experience with medication and how it affects us.

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00:00:00.000 Who is the most medicated, Jubilee?
00:00:09.560 We all look deceiving.
00:00:12.240 What does it mean to look medicated?
00:00:14.640 Well, because if you look medicated,
00:00:16.480 you can appear healthy because you're medicated.
00:00:18.360 Or white.
00:00:19.340 People probably see my tattoos and piercings
00:00:21.580 and also my age.
00:00:23.780 They're like, okay, well, you're obviously spiraling
00:00:25.860 a little bit, so you probably take meds.
00:00:27.900 So I'll be four.
00:00:29.760 Yeah, I feel like you're middle-ish.
00:00:32.160 I guess I'm excited to see what everyone is going to be like,
00:00:36.160 who's going to be on medication, who's not really.
00:00:38.180 Do they consider antidepressants medication?
00:00:39.980 A lot of people don't really present like they're on medication.
00:00:43.140 At least a lot of people that I know,
00:00:44.940 you would never guess that they were on medication.
00:00:46.820 I feel like you'd probably be there, like, just right before me.
00:00:52.060 Oh, like right here? Or in front of you?
00:00:53.580 No, yeah, like right here.
00:00:54.860 Okay.
00:00:55.260 Can I say I think I should move up just a little bit?
00:00:58.200 Maybe like right before you.
00:01:01.280 I feel like I could be like towards like the least.
00:01:03.520 Yes, okay.
00:01:04.360 All right, all right.
00:01:06.020 Let's just say like the least.
00:01:07.340 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:01:08.340 If it's based on appearance or anything like that,
00:01:10.220 like maybe like here or there.
00:01:12.600 Yeah, I think this is the right position.
00:01:14.340 Okay.
00:01:15.220 I think we're good.
00:01:16.560 You can lock this in.
00:01:17.400 Yeah.
00:01:18.240 Okay.
00:01:22.120 My experience with medication was
00:01:24.340 my parents were very much against it as a child,
00:01:27.240 But some things happened and we were like,
00:01:29.480 okay, he kind of needs it.
00:01:31.260 Yeah.
00:01:32.260 I grew up in a Japanese household, very traditional.
00:01:35.280 And so a lot of times, like you would be told like,
00:01:37.620 oh, if you take like these certain like herbal medications
00:01:39.880 or if you drink certain teas,
00:01:41.120 like it can like cure a lot of ailments.
00:01:43.800 Bro, this dude, the soy boy has a, 1.00
00:01:45.620 I didn't even peep the sweater.
00:01:47.040 Herbal medications or if you drink certain-
00:01:48.800 What bro, imagine being proud.
00:01:51.240 Imagine that being a defining personality trait.
00:01:53.940 Like it can like cure a lot of-
00:01:55.700 This guy wins, most medicated.
00:01:57.400 Ailments.
00:01:58.180 I come from like a religious background
00:02:00.200 that isn't like a traditional Christian 0.99
00:02:01.840 or Shintoism or Buddhism.
00:02:03.380 The philosophy behind that religion 0.89
00:02:05.280 is if you think something negative,
00:02:07.460 it will manifest physically.
00:02:09.220 And so a lot of times it came down to like
00:02:10.900 blaming myself for being sick,
00:02:12.820 even if it wasn't like truly my fault.
00:02:15.100 I actually survived a massacre.
00:02:17.960 Yeah, well, I live in Colorado
00:02:19.680 and then there's a theater shooting there.
00:02:21.580 So then I was actually a direct victim of it.
00:02:23.900 I didn't really get exposed to like medication
00:02:26.540 until like more recently,
00:02:28.240 but it was kind of like all these underlying issues
00:02:30.520 that like built up since then.
00:02:31.860 You get like really numb when you're like surrounded
00:02:34.420 by like people who are like always worried about you.
00:02:36.380 You develop like almost like a DID
00:02:39.040 or dissociative identity disorder.
00:02:41.420 It's just kind of like them just throwing stuff at you
00:02:43.720 and just being like, oh, maybe this will work.
00:02:46.080 Were any of you guys introduced into medication
00:02:48.280 off of like physical injury or mental?
00:02:51.780 Injuries or mental issues.
00:02:52.880 there's also physical like disability as well so yes like a little bit of each so I come from an
00:03:01.120 African household also but surprising enough if I wasn't really like introduced to it because
00:03:09.240 everything was like natural remedies and just like oh I don't think it's that serious so we'll
00:03:14.600 stay home instead you know when I was younger like my parents like we're okay with me like
00:03:21.680 taking stuff for my physical needs.
00:03:23.980 As I got older, they were very against medication
00:03:27.060 for like mental health at first.
00:03:28.920 And I think still honestly,
00:03:30.580 my parents are against medication for like mental health.
00:03:34.240 There's also physical like disability as well.
00:03:36.360 So it's kind of like a chain reaction
00:03:38.780 with some of these things.
00:03:39.680 It's like one thing caused another thing,
00:03:41.720 which caused injury.
00:03:43.380 So that, and that injury caused a need for medication
00:03:46.460 cause it caused another thing.
00:03:48.080 I only recently got my first, I guess medication
00:03:51.180 when I was 15.
00:03:52.320 It was really hard for me to, I guess,
00:03:54.140 accept that I needed help.
00:03:55.160 I'm not someone that really likes help,
00:03:56.640 but when it came to just like doing certain daily tasks
00:04:00.280 that I needed to do,
00:04:01.120 like I needed something to like help me,
00:04:04.080 I guess, regulate that.
00:04:05.140 Cause I was definitely going down a path
00:04:07.460 that was not a good one.
00:04:10.120 I feel like you might be a little ahead.
00:04:13.140 I really think you're like less.
00:04:15.300 You think I'm, I feel like he's good.
00:04:17.980 No, I think I should move up.
00:04:20.380 I really think I should.
00:04:21.800 Yeah, you seem confident about being higher.
00:04:23.440 Yeah, but I don't think I'm the top.
00:04:25.140 Okay.
00:04:25.980 I'm on the top right now.
00:04:26.940 So you're just being modest.
00:04:27.780 Do you think you're the most medicated?
00:04:29.900 I feel like, I don't know,
00:04:31.000 I think it may be between you and me right now.
00:04:35.660 I'm depressed, I'm anxious.
00:04:37.420 Okay, for me, I've had anxiety throughout my whole life.
00:04:41.140 Elementary school, all of middle school,
00:04:42.820 up until like freshman year of high school, end of it,
00:04:45.420 is when I got a diagnosis of ADHD.
00:04:48.620 Based off like what you said,
00:04:49.620 I would probably put you...
00:04:50.800 Chad, who here was diagnosed with ADHD and took pills?
00:04:54.080 I guess put you somewhere, maybe here?
00:04:56.200 Yeah.
00:04:56.520 I would probably be on this side.
00:04:57.800 Okay.
00:04:58.100 Maybe.
00:04:58.580 I actually was left undiagnosed for almost like a decade.
00:05:02.900 It was like until this year, I was just like,
00:05:04.940 man, I can't focus on a single thing,
00:05:06.700 you know, panic attacks and all that stuff.
00:05:08.200 So I actually went to the therapist under a victim comp.
00:05:10.520 Pretty much they diagnosed me with, you know,
00:05:12.740 the Holy Trinity, the ADHD, depression, anxiety,
00:05:17.000 and then PTSD, of course.
00:05:18.920 I came from a culture where it's just like, you don't want to bother people.
00:05:22.480 And that's like what my mom always would tell me is just like, don't bother someone else, don't bother someone else.
00:05:26.260 I think that's another thing that kind of empowered the sort of numbing.
00:05:29.460 Everyone grieving for you, and you don't want them to.
00:05:31.940 And you don't want to be in that position where like you have to tell them that it's okay, that you're like still there.
00:05:36.080 And then just trying to comfort them rather than them comforting you.
00:05:39.500 I think that you should go ahead and cha-cha your way to it.
00:05:42.520 All right.
00:05:43.600 Cha-cha. 1.00
00:05:44.120 I'm like, go ahead.
00:05:45.060 I had mental health problems growing up as a child. I actually had like really severe OCD and
00:05:52.960 it went undiagnosed. OCD is not real. For a really long time, I have major depressive order and
00:05:57.860 anxiety. Yeah, you got everything. Everything's wrong with you. So I got diagnosed with that when
00:06:02.700 I was around 20. But that doesn't mean it's real. This year, I actually got diagnosed with
00:06:07.460 gastroparesis. You just don't work. It basically means that my stomach is either partially or
00:06:13.020 fully paralyzed let's say for example like let's say your stomach is done
00:06:16.620 digesting like four hours let's say that right my stomach will take eight hours
00:06:21.060 for example and usually it doesn't contract it just uses acid alone and so
00:06:26.780 sometimes I kind of like joke about this but like it's not super funny but
00:06:30.180 sometimes I'm like oh if you guys want to see a magic trick give me like an
00:06:33.160 hour and I could throw my food back up whole
00:06:36.940 I don't want to see a magic trick but that's very interesting
00:06:41.840 thank you for offering though
00:06:43.140 I'll keep it here
00:06:46.780 it was how she said he was put on ADHD meds
00:06:49.380 I was and my schoolmate was put on them
00:06:50.820 and since then he was never the same guy
00:06:52.080 I'm still furious of what they did to him
00:06:53.400 just cause he couldn't listen in class
00:06:55.460 crime 0.99
00:06:56.000 bro that shit really messed up my head back in the day 0.99
00:06:58.980 I couldn't eat 0.99
00:07:00.740 I couldn't sleep
00:07:02.760 I felt like a robot
00:07:04.440 I think that's part of the reason why I'm sticko 0.99
00:07:07.480 than I am
00:07:08.460 at the very least.
00:07:09.300 Okay, yeah, so if you're gonna put it Kevin, then for now.
00:07:11.320 I like how we're just putting everyone just in the middle
00:07:13.220 right after we hear their story.
00:07:14.380 It's just like, all right.
00:07:15.220 We're back.
00:07:16.060 Oh, I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was six.
00:07:19.560 I was off medication for a while because when I was 11,
00:07:22.540 I was diagnosed with restrictive cardiomyopathy,
00:07:25.860 which is a disorder in the heart.
00:07:27.420 And a year later, I got a heart transplant.
00:07:29.340 I feel like you might be higher then.
00:07:31.140 Because I was- I agree.
00:07:32.260 I am inclined to move up or stay up higher.
00:07:35.660 I think we should hear your thing first.
00:07:38.920 So I've made a depressive disorder and anxiety and PTSD,
00:07:43.340 but I've also struggled with...
00:07:45.280 PTSD.
00:07:46.040 Remember that used to be for soldiers in the war,
00:07:48.240 and now it's for a girl who got broken up,
00:07:50.360 a girl who got cheated on as PTSD.
00:07:52.060 With addiction, and I'll be three years sober on November 2nd.
00:07:57.780 Congrats.
00:08:00.140 They're just like clapping her failures.
00:08:02.720 Oh, okay, she's sober.
00:08:04.440 but they've never actually had a real problem i mean they have easy lives and like this becomes
00:08:09.260 their personality it becomes their defining personality traits i want to talk about is um
00:08:12.860 i also have a rare chronic illness um it's kind of like narcolepsy it's called like idiopathic
00:08:18.260 hypersomnia and um i basically just making shit up we feel like i haven't slept for 24 to 48 hours
00:08:25.600 every single day but there's there's only one medication that's fda approved for it so it's
00:08:31.300 been a struggle but i'm finally able to like hold a job and i'm going to school also so yeah i feel
00:08:38.620 like she should be in front of me but behind her i feel like you should be either above me or next
00:08:44.740 to me yeah the only reason why is because i feel like um a lot of the stuff that you're dealing
00:08:48.620 with also includes a lot of more verbal therapy i want to hear your story because a lot of these
00:08:53.260 mental illnesses are because they live in the first world country don't have real problems if 0.55
00:08:55.920 they spend a month in africa i guarantee 99% of their illnesses would go away you're right you're
00:09:00.360 Right. That's why like when Matt Walsh said, what is a woman? 0.95
00:09:02.200 And he went to the Maasai tribe and he asked him, can like a man become a woman?
00:09:07.020 Can a man become a woman? 1.00
00:09:08.140 And everybody, they laughed away at that question because these are all problems that just happen in the first world where you have so much time.
00:09:18.320 Like there's no other problems.
00:09:20.380 When you actually have to hunt to survive and you revert to your generals, all this disappears.
00:09:26.280 Nobody has OCD in Africa.
00:09:28.100 I don't think I'm the most medicated, but I can't get to read, you know?
00:09:32.980 I think the first diagnosis I got was like anxiety, depression,
00:09:37.780 but they didn't do any sort of psychiatric testing.
00:09:39.880 They just kind of looked at me and they were like, man, weird.
00:09:43.280 Vassofagosyncope, aerophagia.
00:09:45.620 I just recently got diagnosed with autism and ADHD.
00:09:48.900 That's all else.
00:09:49.840 Autism and ADHD?
00:09:51.900 And that's quite enough, I think.
00:09:54.560 Do you guys want to be medicated?
00:09:56.420 I don't want to take medicine it's hard to keep up with you know it's like
00:10:02.180 paying a subscription to live. As long as they're giving me a better quality of
00:10:05.360 life and better as a person and want to live then I want to take my meds. When I
00:10:12.380 first started getting sober I was in a rehab and they prescribed me like a
00:10:18.320 whole bunch of different medications but I believe that without those medications
00:10:22.700 for my addiction that I wouldn't be sober today.
00:10:25.940 So it like really helped save my life.
00:10:28.060 I want having to take medications to be like the last resort
00:10:31.440 and I want to go through all the possible things
00:10:33.200 that I could do before.
00:10:34.280 I feel like we're all aware that the more medicine
00:10:36.360 that doctors give you, the more money they're making.
00:10:39.160 So I don't know, it's like a trust issue type of thing,
00:10:41.680 but also like if I really need it,
00:10:43.280 like of course like for pain and whatnot,
00:10:44.940 but again, let's go through all the things that,
00:10:46.940 you know, I could do it if those don't work
00:10:48.720 for like helping me, all right, then give me the thumbs.
00:10:51.040 So obviously I don't want to be on medication
00:10:53.320 because it costs money,
00:10:54.100 but I'm not a big fan of medical.
00:10:55.960 Yeah, you do.
00:10:57.100 You don't want to take personal responsibility
00:10:58.840 so you cling on to these illnesses.
00:11:00.280 But I've never personally had a bad experience,
00:11:02.060 but I know that that's not the case for most people.
00:11:05.100 Cause no, Dylan, you trust it, so.
00:11:07.700 Yeah.
00:11:09.160 Like you have the trust.
00:11:10.800 I trust it, but maybe I don't like, you know,
00:11:13.600 certain side effects from certain things.
00:11:15.480 You know, I was unmedicated for 15 to 18 years,
00:11:19.020 depending on how you look at it.
00:11:20.260 I feel like I'm probably lower than you.
00:11:22.240 There's a high chance.
00:11:24.380 I'm okay with this.
00:11:25.220 Yes, okay.
00:11:26.060 I'm good.
00:11:26.900 Okay, we're good.
00:11:27.740 Locked in.
00:11:32.180 In seventh, Mary.
00:11:34.200 I told you vaccinated dude was gonna win.
00:11:36.880 Come on, please be right.
00:11:38.220 Some W this stream.
00:11:39.640 Six, Dylan.
00:11:43.520 Dang, guys.
00:11:44.460 Eight, fifth, seventh,
00:11:47.460 Okay.
00:11:48.460 I knew it.
00:11:49.460 So now what we're going to do, we're going to go to what you're actually taking.
00:12:04.460 This would be a good reference video.
00:12:07.460 I could show the doctors real quick and appointments when they need to get the list.
00:12:11.460 That's the most annoying part of it.
00:12:13.460 I guess down the line again?
00:12:14.460 Yeah, let's start with Mary. 0.93
00:12:16.460 Well, I take no medications.
00:12:19.440 I feel like if I've been all those years being unmedicated,
00:12:21.860 I'm still fine, I'm still here living.
00:12:23.120 I could do, you know, a couple more decades.
00:12:25.400 I will definitely continue to keep going down
00:12:27.880 the holistic path, but it's also, I'm open to medications.
00:12:31.400 I take one medication, take Vyvanse for ADHD.
00:12:35.460 It just helps me with impulse control and all that.
00:12:38.000 I'm actually on three medications.
00:12:39.900 This is like the thing that's mainly changing
00:12:41.540 is the antidepressants.
00:12:43.120 Of course, you know, Adderall for the ADHD.
00:12:46.000 And when I'm too wired, they also put me on a terazodone.
00:12:49.120 So it's pretty much just like, here's an upper,
00:12:50.860 here's a downer, and here's like-
00:12:52.060 You're taking Zanz and Addy at the same time.
00:12:54.560 I don't feel depressed.
00:12:55.760 I take five.
00:12:56.600 I take, this is called Zofran.
00:12:59.140 I also take this one.
00:13:00.760 This is called Bremron.
00:13:02.020 This is Ativan.
00:13:03.120 I also take a sclocolamine patch.
00:13:04.820 And then my last one, which is my primary medication,
00:13:07.960 Motilium, this one is actually not legal in the USA.
00:13:10.880 It's not FDA approved.
00:13:12.240 And the reason for that is because it causes-
00:13:14.620 Did you just snitch on yourself live?
00:13:16.620 ...chance of a heart attack and stroke.
00:13:19.160 So I get EKGs done just to make sure that I'm still within safe levels.
00:13:23.480 Would you be able to survive without that medication?
00:13:27.360 Currently, no, because it's the only known medication to treat my condition.
00:13:32.140 Without it, there's a good chance I'll have to stay hospitalized for fluids and liquids.
00:13:36.800 I could not sustain myself.
00:13:38.320 I basically was diagnosed recently with gastroparesis.
00:13:41.840 You can even identify it as like a really mild form of like organ failure.
00:13:46.000 My stomach either is fully paralyzed or partially paralyzed.
00:13:49.760 And so the way I digest, I rely on the acid in my stomach and I can't rely on the mechanics of it.
00:13:56.500 I take seven. I don't have that many meds, guys.
00:13:58.800 So I also take Zofran. I take this as needed.
00:14:01.540 I also take something called Armidafinil. I take Clonidate and Nite.
00:14:05.660 I also take Eupropion or Wellbutrin for my depression.
00:14:10.060 Something called Synthroid.
00:14:11.380 And last one is just the Cyclovir for a virus that I have,
00:14:16.160 and I take this every single day.
00:14:17.520 So I take eight medications.
00:14:19.080 First is one of the main ones,
00:14:21.560 Chacrolimus, better known as Prograf.
00:14:23.840 Another immunosuppressor is Cirolimus.
00:14:26.440 And then a lot of medications are just to quell side effects
00:14:28.920 of these two.
00:14:29.760 First is Diltiazim.
00:14:31.700 Addervastatin, also known as Lipitor.
00:14:34.100 I forgot exactly what this one does.
00:14:36.340 Bare Aspirin, Licinopril, I also take Adderall.
00:14:40.320 Last one, I promise.
00:14:41.880 This is vitamin D3.
00:14:43.420 That's everything.
00:14:45.640 So close.
00:14:46.940 So close.
00:14:48.280 Yeah.
00:14:49.120 This one is a Zulane patch.
00:14:50.920 This is a birth control.
00:14:52.220 This is the fifth birth control I've been on.
00:14:54.620 This is Topamax.
00:14:55.880 This is for both from chronic migraines
00:14:59.240 and also I got a higher dosage
00:15:01.000 because I developed motor tics.
00:15:02.800 Midadryl.
00:15:03.640 How are you alive?
00:15:05.020 Is the one medication I am on for fainting
00:15:07.160 from my blood pressure.
00:15:08.520 There we got gabapentin.
00:15:09.980 I just got prescribed this one for like panic attacks
00:15:12.800 and stuff and also for chronic pain.
00:15:14.780 But Juniper got prescribed the same thing.
00:15:17.320 Cymbalta, this is Immatrex for emergency
00:15:19.980 for really bad migraines.
00:15:21.700 This is a nasal spray for allergies.
00:15:24.700 This is an inhaler.
00:15:26.120 And then this is Singulair.
00:15:27.660 And then Aerophagia, like an acid reducer.
00:15:30.660 Wow, we could be like an ad for Big Pharma right now.
00:15:38.180 I don't know, I feel like sometimes
00:15:39.100 have to like justify my problems to be like no it actually is something that is a problem i had an
00:15:44.380 employer when i first got diagnosed and he was actually like really rude about it and he told
00:15:48.220 like everybody like oh she's probably just pregnant people won't always like look at you and think like
00:15:52.460 you are definitely somebody who is medicated you know i just wish people could see that like
00:15:57.980 just because you can't see an illness just because it's invisible doesn't mean it doesn't exist
00:16:01.980 do you have any final thoughts you'd like to impart on someone who might be watching
00:16:06.380 I mean, I really just...
00:16:07.500 So close, so close.
00:16:13.860 That's it.
00:16:14.340 Is this your job?