SNEAKO - July 12, 2023Nick Opens Up About His Relationship Beliefs To SNEAKO
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Summary
On this week's episode of the WDFA Podcast, we are joined by and to talk about a variety of topics. We talk about how they met, how they first met, and how they became friends.
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we're at dinner and all the girls are there right and i'm talking to the one girl at the end of the
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table and she's very nice and i don't you know if she's watching this is like no offense
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but we're we're kind of like flirting banter whatever but like after an hour of that i'm like
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okay i'm good like i'm bored what you're flirting you know i mean the playful banter you do with
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women you know how that goes um and and i'm like okay you know initially i'm like all right we're
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here we're doing this stream it's fun we're in front of the camera but i mean literally after
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like 45 minutes an hour i'm literally just like okay i'm like i'm good i'm bored i'm ready to be
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alone you know like so i really am a big loner in that sense and i feel like you couldn't be like
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me i feel like uh living a normal lifestyle can never produce somebody like me you kind of have
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to have that contemplative soul um to to be this way yeah i picked up on that on yay 24 you're
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definitely not the guy that needs to be around people just gonna relax and stuff like that does
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anybody know who it is does anybody know what it is well for all the autistic schizos that all day
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spam call nick call nick call nick hat's way i don't need to call him he can come right here
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can we get a round of applause all the call nick people shut up for a day he's here in the flesh
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nick how you doing man i'm good how you doing man doing great it's uh it's a nice day we're in miami
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just got some food and yeah we have a lot of memes i told my discord everybody uh you can
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enjoy the discord link in description the first last one got banned for hate speech and stuff like
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that but we have uh the discord prepared everybody made sure to uh welcome you properly we're gonna
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have a lot of stuff to look into but nick uh how you been been good been enjoying my time in miami
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epic stream last night i appreciate you making the trip out so we could do it you and zirka
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because i didn't know you i wasn't sure if you guys were going to make it i know you were both
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traveling and doing your own thing and everything but i think it was totally worth it that was like
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an all-time legendary stream i think you said earlier it was like the biggest red pill stream maybe ever
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i think so by viewership i mean i don't even think it's a question and real red pill not like fake
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safe bullshit red pill not to throw shade at anybody in particular i'm just saying generally there's a lot of
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big content creators people consider them a little out there people consider them not uh part of the
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mainstream but you know that the bigger you get the less red pill you get at the same time i feel like
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this was a massive stream huge viewership big guests and literally no punches pulled it was like we brought
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it all of it so yeah i would say you you unanimously won that debate it was it was pretty
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satisfying to get that topic and and just clean it up you i don't think you lost any points
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and it was just two hours of straight uh great victory yeah i i think so too it was i mean i looked
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at the comments because honestly i'm gonna be totally honest i was actually a little nervous going in
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into the debate really you didn't seem like it at all i mean i called you beforehand and we were
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trying to set this thing up and i said like i had a great stream on friday just by myself i'm like i
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don't really feel the need to go and defend my title on monday you know what i mean like i got a w
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i was there i got to say my piece and then destiny because he wasn't even as far as i know wasn't even
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supposed to be part of that stream initially somehow he wormed his way in and i'm thinking ah fuck like
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i didn't prepare i got 12 hours to prepare on the jq huge topic it involves everything it's so much
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information i barely prepared for a long time yeah i mean it's part of my repertoire but usually on a
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debate you want to you want to be concrete especially with destiny because he typically does his homework
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so i was nervous going into it but you know i guess i underestimated myself and overestimated him
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you know because i came in and some of the stuff i was just like surprised i was like you don't i
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mean we don't have to relitigate it we'll react to some of it but yeah i was like wow but all the
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comments i couldn't find a single negative comment i was scrolling all night last night on the rumble
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video i couldn't find one negative comment there rumble already doesn't like destiny i gotta be
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honest when you see most of the stuff you see like people attacking his personal stuff his wife and
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but i do have to on twitter his subreddit i haven't seen anything that was there was nothing
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that he had yeah like just objectively speaking last night stream was fun abortion about his abortion
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survivor it was fun i do feel like sometimes i feel bad for the guy like i just saw him like sitting
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like like kind of defeated and like odd like his blue hair like roughly in the top i just kind of
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like oh you know it's just you can't hate the guy there was a moment we were like leaving and you guys
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like at one point you're like i need to go to war with this guy and then we were just seeing him
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like we went to the restaurant afterwards and you're just like walking to his seat and he's just like
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there with the shoulders forward and i'm like you can't hate this guy like you can't you can't hate
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him i kind of do because here's the thing like i tried to be his friend for a long time and i really
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did see him as somebody that i could be a buddy with and if you watch my streams with him like a year ago
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i was very i a lot of the banter i took it on the chin i was very friendly um but he legitimately
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sees me as like his enemy like he said at the dinner last night he's like literally he's like
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i'm like come on man i'm like we're just here the camera's off let's just hang out literally i's like
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you're evil like i he sees me as like an adversary um so if that's the case in like this you need
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well in the way he sees it like i need you you need me type of way like the way a villain in here
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oh i'll get you next time like that kind of way because he we drove together to the restaurant you
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know and just the way you guys hang out it's not really like it doesn't have hate it's a good
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adversary to have long term because yeah it's pretty much the antithesis to you you kind of i don't want
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to say you look alike because you're gonna get mad about that but he's like he's got similar hair but
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it's blue like it's just like the opposite in a lot of ways that's the way i saw it especially
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when we were doing those debate panels last year but it's good to have you in person especially
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uh after last year and you know i started streaming about a year ago and then i went uh down the
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rabbit hole met you and i don't think i haven't seen you in person besides yesterday since uh back
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in november on on yay 24 so to have you here in real life all the call nick people they're still
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saying it now you don't know i imagine how fucking annoying that is all day you're trying to like look
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at like normie stuff like feminist arguing like trannies being ugly and then you just get people
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call nick call nick call nick like bro can i just like try to farm some clips for five seconds they
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do it to me too in my chat all day it's call sneaker call they say shit like call trump call
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call donald call putin i'm like bro yeah well so post-destination said it was a total one-sided
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obliteration all destiny could do is try to obfuscate like a total faggot that's all they do anyways i
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can't even imagine what a 30 40 year old nick would be like world uh dominatio so what i do want
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to ask you a little bit before you like tone it they're all called nick whatever chat stop um
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what i do want to talk to you about uh i've i've said this before i've made this claim publicly that
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i think that you have the potential to be the future president of the united states genuinely like
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when i when i see when i always talk about the west falling and how i don't see long term you're
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asking me that uh just now we're eating like do you see yourself setting up long term in miami i
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just extended my lease here i'm gonna stay here longer but i have been traveling the world thinking
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about a place to stay because the west is objectively falling it's not the place that it once was and you
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kind of have this like 50s like james dean like you're drinking coca-cola burger milkshake like
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that yeah you you are like they're living a body of like i watched home alone uh last christmas
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and just seeing that guy like on the sled through the chicago suburbs i'm like this and they go to
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church and he's like like praying to god and like he's reminded of how family values and everything
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like that i'm like that's the america that nick wants and the ice rink that he's at it's all white
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people and i'm like that's the america that nick wants and which i don't agree with i'm really
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shit blah blah blah but i'm wondering what do you think the steps that you need to take are because
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you do want to be the next president right not the next but eventually i mean that's not something
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that i'm married to it's weird because people always ask me that i've never said i want to be
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the president i mean me personally i feel like i've said so much and done so much at this point it'd be
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very difficult i mean a lot of people like what i say and they like my presentation but it's obvious
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the challenges that i would have trying to win over a mass audience um so i mean in 20 30 40
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years maybe things will change maybe it'll be a different environment i'll be a different person
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um but i'd like to be a political leader at some point you know because i think that i represent
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the real right wing i mean for me my mission right now is to just provide an actual anchor
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for the right wing because when you look at the entire because you're not really as much as you talk
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about politics you're not really a political guy you know and the same is true of myron and these
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other guys and i i like you guys of course you talk about things that are important but me i'm
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really embedded in politics like i know political people all my content's political it always has
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been and what people don't understand is that this country doesn't have a right wing party at all
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like everyone thinks republicans but republicans are not right wing they are constantly moving to the
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left even these guys like matt walsh and tucker they'll specifically tucker he'll say stuff like
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well everyone agrees that you can marry who you love it's just these transgenders and it's like
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wait a second so now conservatives are in favor of sodomy and gay marriage like and it's so we
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we need a right wing that doesn't move we need a standard and we need that to to anchor the right
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as opposed to constantly basing what is right wing as a response to the left in other words subjective
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like whatever the left is saying we're going to disagree well the left is always moving so that
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means if we're always responding we're moving with them so at this stage my goal is just to say
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all right good anyway well we still have the mic to finish my point i just what i want to do right
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now is to provide the truth and i want to provide an anchor for the american right wing
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and provide some guidance on that because i feel like literally nobody else is doing it
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and that's because everybody's for lack of a better word everybody's weak nobody wants to
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stand alone nobody wants to say anything that's truly controversial it's on my side chat relax it
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wasn't the power outage no one wants to say anything controversial oh i'm panicking again i was like not
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again so so that's my mission right now i'm not really thinking about being the president you just
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want to keep on trying to bring make the conservatives conservative again right yeah and be the standard
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yeah because you see the the conservative party always try to make adjustments to try to seem
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cool i like how you talk about when conservatives write speeches they're always thinking about how to
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not come off racist they're really afraid of that of getting boxed in that way and not having to worry
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about that because you say edgy stuff and people like make all these accusations about you they say
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all these words we're at um lunch and you were talking about how we were talking about i was
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mentioning some people who hit women for example and you're like oh that's cringe like immediately
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that was your response even though you sometimes you'll say edgy things like we're gonna be the
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most racist the most but all that is to try to to let go of that like saying certain words or saying
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things in a provocative way is to let go of that stigma that's held on to uh policing language and
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policing thoughts so much it's kind of freeing to see a guy like you not care at all about any of
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the restrictions that they try to put on you do you think that there needs to be a new party started
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because like even trump for example i would have to admit is kind of a centrist like for for a long
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time he's been very supportive of gay people wrong he's been like he's starting to sympathize and
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introduce trannies and say that it's okay he doesn't really seem to have a problem with that
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he's not a traditional conservative like maybe finding like uh fiscally but socially not at all
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like one do you consider him a centrist and two do you think that there needs to be a new like type of
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a new party well you're right i mean he basically is a center-right politician a lot of people even
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pointed this out in 16 and i remember i was in high school during the republican primary and i was a
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very libertarian conservative type of guy more mainstream and i supported ted cruz initially i
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supported rand paul and then ted cruz and the reason why is because and even liberals acknowledge
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this ted cruz was the more conservative choice i remember i got in a fight with my english teacher
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my english teacher was like you know i'm not worried about trump my real fear is ted cruz because he
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is like an evangelical and he is believes what he says he said trump is just a grifter i don't agree
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with that but the point stands that basically since he got started trump was pro-gay trump i mean he had
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to moderate his position but he was pro-choice people forget this for a long time even on immigration
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he used to say in 16 we got to send the illegals back but we want people to come in legally we're
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going to build the wall but have a big beautiful door in the middle and people can come through legally
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so these are positions that have been said for 30 years on the left and the right it's basically
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like a center populist very diluted nationalist position um so i i agree he is basically center
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right that being said as far as starting a new party i mean i'm a believer that we just got to
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infiltrate the republican party it's super difficult and people say well you'll never do that but
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infiltrating or rather starting a new party is actually way harder it's way more expensive
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it's way more work that's a huge pain in the ass so you know i don't know yeah i don't think it's
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worth it just fixing it the way it is yeah well you just got to go and take over the gop like trump did
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and would you actually if you were elected would you actually make america a catholic monarchy
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yeah how does that work how do you envision that well i mean who really knows who can say but
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the thing is you have to realize that in history these kinds of regime changes have happened
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you know in iran in russia in france in america the thing is about a revolution is that it happens
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very slowly and then very suddenly and so i don't i don't usually govern myself by saying well what's
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what's practical what's realistic because i'm thinking about the future today it seems crazy
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that something like that would be possible but tomorrow 20 years 50 years you never know what's
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right around the corner and the people that dictate the future are the people that are thinking in the
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future based on the constraints of the future not based on the constraints of today i know that maybe
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sounds like a uh cop-out answer but i'm i'm a big believer that i mean take me for example
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i started saying this stuff about israel and race etc like 2018 2017 2017 yeah i was at charlottesville
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it was radioactive no one was talking about this stuff but i remember telling my parents after i dropped
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out of college i'm like mom dad like this is the future i'm like it's the future because it's the truth
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and it's not going to be able to be ignored i said because things are gonna get so bad things are
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going to assert themselves in reality that race these other things are going to be unignorable i said
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and you know although it may not seem like it now it may be hard to believe i said in 10 years everyone's
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going to be talking about this and it took less it took seven years took eight years for this to become
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the reality so but that's the kind of thinking we need we need a vision we need people to see the
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underlying fundamental things that are happening as opposed to paying attention to what's what's
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considered practical possible acceptable now what do you envision that you do with other religions
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like i'm muslim for example we have a lot of muslims in the chat do we need to convert to catholicism
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do we need to leave the country how is that gonna do you plan to have freedom of religion in your
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and no point does america uh yeah i believe in freedom of religion but it cannot change the
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fundamental character of the country so you know america should be a christian country it should
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have christian judges should have christian legislators and that's always the question is well how do you
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work it out in practice the answer is to me that's really just details the principle is christians
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should be running america it's a christian country so you know maybe you have muslims have a ceiling
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in government how high they can rise same thing with jews same thing with atheists uh but i think as
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long as people agree in principle that it's a christian country it should have christian leadership
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the rest is really just logistics which really makes sense because when you look at how we allowed
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japanese people to be like let's keep japan japanese i was like okay fine you know we can let or let's like
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keep ghana ghanaan or whatever no let's not let it infiltrate with other cultures we want to keep
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the culture and then when europeans are like let's keep europe europe everyone freaks out because they
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were like no we need all these immigrants to flood in like the why can't you keep the essence of a
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predominantly white christian country but you can keep the essence of an asian country or an african
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country that doesn't make sense well and and what you're getting at is that let me fix the lighting
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real quick because it's changing quick oh yeah it looks like the sun went down yeah um what you're
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getting at is that this is basically an attack on our country you know like and that's a thing people
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don't want to talk about is all these conversations about immigration if you push hard enough like for
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example someone posted one of my clips on tiktok recently from my show and i was talking about this i
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think it might have even been from fresh and fit on friday and it was about immigration and i said
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look like every country in the world every white country in the world is being buried in non-white
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immigration and somebody in the comments said well you know what goes around comes around
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and it's like that's their attitude whenever you talk about immigration like we need to stop
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immigration into white countries they always say oh well what about the indians what about
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colonialism and that really reveals what is really going on here which is they they are consciously
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taking over our country you know when they say oh well goes around comes around they're saying
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we're colonizing your nation and i'm over here like yeah and we don't want that to happen like i don't
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want to be colonized obviously so i mean we're calling for people to resist this but you sometimes you
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when you talk about the natives and how the genocide your response is well it was colonized you guys are
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living in like tp huts why is colonization oh well i don't know if you're justifying it but like why is
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colonization in one sense good and bad in other scenarios that's the thing it's because we want to
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defend our country you know like if you had done something in the past let's say that you were a
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criminal in your past or i don't know something like that you defended yourself you killed someone
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in self-defense and then somebody came up and tried to mug you and said give me all your money
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would you say well i guess you got to kill me because what goes around comes around what's fair
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is fair it's like no you'd fight for your life and so i don't think that and and that's really it that's
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why pat buchanan and these others say it's really a suicide because we are passively accepting our own
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destruction we're saying well this is what we have coming and i'm over here like no like i want
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to fight to live as a guy and as a country and as our civilization so the natives just lost they lost
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yeah now we got to beat him again okay uh we got 20 from reckley um nick when you become president can
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you appoint seko as your vp and force him to convert or get the actual no i would definitely he needs a
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actual vp like i don't let me let me like make my videos and like tell jokes and stuff like this i
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got into this for comedy like nick just said i'm not a political guy he's not going to get um yeah
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obviously press secretary right something like that you probably want a white guy as a vp too let's be
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honest like you don't want race mixing in the cabinet if you don't want in your family you're not
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a muslim either no offense yeah i get it i mean the same thing would apply to saudi arabia for example
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i want to know more about chat uk if i ask like personal nick questions and not like i'm going to
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dive into your your the deep secrets of your life but i'm wondering like what is what does nick do
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day to day right so you stream at night i saw you were talking the other night and you're saying like
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i don't work a wagey job you stream like late at night you stream at like night which is a tate
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term by the way free tate um what do you how much research goes into what you do how much time do you
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spend reading it seems like every time you do a show it's pretty laid out like is it just looking
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at news stories and analyzing how much reading do you do what time do you wake up what's the average
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day like for nick fuentes chilling well it's not it's not as impressive as most people think i mean
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i was talking to somebody the other day it's because it's actually kind of funny people always
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ask me this and i never know how to answer and the thing is about me is that the reason i think
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why they fear me and the reason why i'm a threat in many ways is because like i am a political
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being in the sense of like a lot of people that get into politics they get into politics and they
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just can't wait to take advantage of the fame the money the girls and you you know there's not a lot
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of it in politics but if you become a minor conservative celebrity you enjoy your celebrity
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you get to fuck all the trad thoughts you get to you know conservative thoughts yeah exactly go on
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the israel trip and and this kind of thing and the thing is about me is like but but i'm not like that
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because like in some ways i'm like less of a person than they are does that make sense like no i'm i'm a
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political force more than i am like a person where i'm like just hey man i'm just trying to just like
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everybody else i'm just trying to grab a beer and have my wife and kids and you know i'm just
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looking out for myself like i'm i'm just like a political force you're fully dedicated to everything
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i'm like ben kenobi i'm like when ben kenobi says if you strike me down i'll become more powerful and
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he disappears that's like me it's like i'm like or like darth i'm gonna go deep star wars lore i'm like
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darth nihilus he's just the force in a cape there's not even a man under there okay this is
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deep stuff this is nerdy shit i know but this is deep star wars lore in the old republic there's a
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sith lord that he doesn't even have a body he's just the force in a cape and like that's how i feel
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sometimes you know because everybody's always like well what do you do and i'm like this is what i do
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like this is what i am you know so um so i'm not really talking about like what you do for fun or
00:23:50.040
like if you drink a beer like what girls blah blah i'm wondering more about like your preparation
00:23:54.640
for everything that you do like what goes what is developing the force for example the jedis and
00:24:00.440
stuff like that they're there training and dojo they're probably flicking around the lightsaber and
00:24:04.140
stuff they're casting spells or whatever they're training they have yo the fucking green guy running
00:24:10.240
around in the woods what you don't know yoda's name uh whatever what is your running around with
00:24:14.980
the green guy in the swamp how are you doing that for your political aspirations well i do a lot of
00:24:20.760
reading um but honestly and this is the i feel like a lot of people don't understand this because a lot of
00:24:26.620
people ask me on my show they're like well can you recommend a good book on that and a lot of times
00:24:31.520
i just draw a blank because for so much of what i say on my show i mean i do read a lot but so much of
00:24:37.240
what i say on the show these are just i just think about this stuff all the time i go on walks i wander
00:24:43.500
i sit there uh you know i i make observations and i think about things and i think you'll find this is
00:24:49.820
the case with comedians artists writers is they get their inspiration from life you know i i don't
00:24:57.560
remember where i got this but i read this a long time ago some japanese guy said that he can understand
00:25:03.860
all of the universe by observing the things that are happening in his garden and i believe in like
00:25:09.960
that as a principle that if you if you just pay attention to things on a fundamental level you can
00:25:15.020
understand things on a great level on a macro level you know and there's uh there's a book i read by
00:25:19.980
uh gerta people be surprised it's called on the metamorphosis of plants and he combines science
00:25:27.100
and poetry and he talks about how you can look at a leaf and you could understand how the principles
00:25:33.900
of the whole universe things like polarization and intensification if you just observe properties
00:25:40.280
and things about something as simple and as small as a leaf you can understand how the stars work how the
00:25:48.660
planet works and so i think that for people that want to understand the world just pay attention to the
00:25:55.780
world and uh i think that's my superpower i don't even think i have a super high aq i just think i'm
00:26:01.360
able to see the connections and things so it's not even so much reading it's more just thinking about
00:26:07.000
things as far as my show i mean i'll i'll literally i pull up like a dozen news articles i pick two
00:26:13.620
that's what i do my show on it's not you know i've been doing it i've done it you know 1200 times
00:26:19.920
so once you do something over a thousand times you kind of get the hang of it so i just i can riff
00:26:24.560
pretty well that's one thing you have in common with zirka after zirka streams if he's not going
00:26:28.420
to do whatever he does in a hotel room he'll go on a walk for eight hours straight we're in vegas he
00:26:35.140
did a stream he did a debate he did a panel and then he just walked around like his manager's like
00:26:39.800
zirka just got back i'm like it's 11 a.m tomorrow and he's like yeah zirka was walking around for the
00:26:44.400
last eight hours like just there with his headphones in zoning in thinking analyzing all that stuff is
00:26:50.360
is preparation and is work in a way especially when your work is uh public speaking because you
00:26:55.440
always have to be in tune with things that and see the world in a way that other people aren't
00:27:00.660
seeing it so that you can explain things that we all recognize but don't know how to put into words
00:27:04.400
you think that's the proper way to describe it yeah absolutely i mean and that that's getting that's
00:27:10.020
why i say i'm kind of like a ghost or or like a force in that sense i mean like last night for
00:27:16.520
example we're at dinner and all the girls are there right and i'm talking to the one girl at
00:27:21.580
the end of the table and she's very nice and i don't you know if she's watching this is like no
00:27:25.060
offense but we were kind of like flirting banter whatever but like after an hour of that i'm like
00:27:31.140
okay i'm good like i'm bored what you're flirting you know i mean the playful banter you do with women
00:27:37.520
you know how that goes um and and i'm like okay you know initially i'm like all right we're here
00:27:42.980
we're doing this stream it's fun we're in front of the camera but i mean literally after like
00:27:47.080
45 minutes an hour ready to go i'm literally just like okay i'm like i'm good i'm bored i'm ready to
00:27:52.900
be alone you know like so i really am a big loner in that sense and i feel like you couldn't be like
00:27:59.660
me i feel like uh living a normal lifestyle can never produce somebody like me you kind of have to
00:28:05.060
have that contemplative soul um to to be this way yeah i picked up on that on yay 24 you're definitely
00:28:11.320
not the guy that needs to be around people there's definitely certain types of personality
00:28:15.520
type i think zerk is that type where he needs to always be around people we had this the first
00:28:20.980
time we like scheduling a trip with a couple other youtubers and streamers or whatever uh and then he
00:28:25.720
went away he was in la for a while and every time i called him or something he's always just in a house
00:28:30.180
he's like yo this is this is jerry this is my friend like who's jerry yeah yeah and then i meet him
00:28:35.760
somewhere else and this is mickey like who are these people then there's like three girls on the
00:28:40.920
couch and it seems like he knew them forever and the next time i see him there's this is my girl
00:28:44.860
who is this is your girlfriend i've never heard about i've never seen her in my life like i had
00:28:49.220
no idea but uh you're you're kind of similar and also opposite in a lot of ways because he he needs
00:28:55.660
to have people around all the time but on yay 24 i remember asking we were planning if we're gonna
00:29:01.360
stay there longer i'm like i don't really know like where i'm gonna stay like i'm spending money
00:29:05.280
on hotels like um you're thinking about like getting you're like i don't really want to like
00:29:09.200
be in a house with a bunch of people yeah right i think i'm good on my own and i'm like yeah
00:29:13.800
understandable uh flying raptor thanks for 11 w sneeko and nick i remember first watching nick
00:29:18.860
on sneeko stream last summer with jadeon and that other guy great panel last night it was uh young
00:29:23.280
don great panel last night with myron zirka too the west can be saved believe it yeah so i talk a
00:29:28.440
lot about how the west is falling i think i want to see what you guys think in the chat because i'm not
00:29:33.180
sure how many americans are here i do have a large european audience and wherever else you guys are
00:29:37.160
from but i think a lot of the people in the west uh one of you agree with me that right now you
00:29:43.840
envision this is up to change like around you i'm like yeah hope america all this stuff but i think a
00:29:50.060
lot of people are like let's find a place to go so a lot of people like want to go to dubai
00:29:53.440
or thailand eastern europe these places poland for example they they want to figure out they they have
00:30:01.100
given up on the west and they want to go and find another place or two you agree with nick that the
00:30:06.020
west is worth saving and that you should keep your roots in america what do you think about
00:30:10.300
people that are do you see people that leave as traitors um yeah kind of because for me this is my
00:30:20.460
home and i i just don't understand this people fleeing to pursue a better situation for themselves
00:30:28.640
it's like that's kind of the mentality that god is here you know what i mean like are we going to
00:30:33.480
build a community of people that abandoned their homeland looking out for their own self-interest
00:30:38.620
i mean to some extent for me it's going to be different because i may be put in a situation
00:30:44.540
where i literally have to flee not like i don't like it here i'm going to move somewhere else like
00:30:49.340
edward snowden situation exactly if i stay here they'll kill me they'll throw me in a cage
00:30:53.380
um and i'll be in exile and i'll want to i'll want to return but i think that you people need to
00:31:00.720
have loyalty to things they need to have loyalty to their to their blood which is their family
00:31:05.120
they need to have loyalty to their race which is also their blood their extended family and people
00:31:10.060
should have loyalty to their country like so much of and that's why i don't really like i like fresh
00:31:15.560
and fit like i like fresh but i fundamentally disagree with him because his his whole mo is
00:31:20.620
put your head down go to work look out for you yourself and your family and i think a lot of
00:31:26.860
people feel that way and i get that i fundamentally disagree though because i'm a big believer in like
00:31:32.000
i believe in lost causes i believe in going down with the ship i feel like if you are not willing
00:31:36.820
to fight for something bigger than yourself or bigger than your immediate family it's sort of like
00:31:42.640
you know what's it all really for you know what's really the purpose just have that conversation with
00:31:46.940
him a lot of immigrants like that have that mentality a lot of people my family they're
00:31:50.800
a good part of my family's from haiti and they they move places they work in a lot of them go to
00:31:55.640
montreal they come to america then if anything goes south there's like oh let's go back right
00:32:00.160
they're just gonna they see this as a place of opportunity kind of like a paradise in a sense
00:32:05.760
where they can kind of say okay i'm here but it's not really where you belong or a place that you ever
00:32:10.000
want to be forever do you see that as using i do yeah i think they are because you know and and
00:32:18.400
again it's i get it i understand why they feel that way but you talk to these immigrants
00:32:22.620
and a lot of conservatives think this is a good thing but immigrants do have this attitude where
00:32:27.380
they say you know i took advantage of an opportunity here i made it for myself and there's a sense of
00:32:32.940
entitlement it's like this isn't a shopping mall this isn't like a job fair this is a country this is
00:32:39.300
our home and there's a good book on this by borhas it's called we wanted workers and it comes from
00:32:44.640
this old adage by a german bureaucrat he said we wanted workers we got people and what that means is
00:32:51.240
we're bringing in these immigrants and their attitude and i think even our attitude towards
00:32:55.720
them is they're going to come here and work contribute to the economy blah blah blah but it
00:33:00.660
turns out that america is not a job site america is the place where we live it's a place where we
00:33:05.320
send our kids to school public parks churches things like that and so the in other words america is a
00:33:13.060
is a hole it's a hole that is bigger than the sum of its parts it's not just a bunch of individuals
00:33:18.720
looking out for each other it is like an organism in itself and so people are dependent on each other
00:33:26.220
people rely on each other there's a structure it wouldn't work if people weren't playing their roles
00:33:31.720
and so to have this mentality of i came here i got an opportunity i got a job it's this individualism
00:33:39.580
thing which conservatives have i think wrongly embraced which is killing this country we got to
00:33:45.240
look out for american society as a whole and uh and not have these people that come in here they
00:33:50.340
don't love it they don't see it as their home they see it as uh it's a good place because it allowed me
00:33:56.200
to make money or something yeah that's the problem with allowing too much immigration that's a big because
00:34:02.940
people in japan for example and even saying that you could hear the racist undertones because of uh all
00:34:09.200
the programming but it's true when you go to japan for example they all believe in japan first they want
00:34:13.560
to do the best they see their brothers and sisters um as their neighbors they see everybody around
00:34:18.920
there's a great videos of like people in the train station they spill their backpack over and then
00:34:24.200
money falls out and everybody just instead of they're not even worried they just immediately pick
00:34:27.840
it up and then everybody around just starts picking up and helping them out because right they see
00:34:31.160
everybody else is like okay we're in this together you don't see that same attitude in america
00:34:36.240
everyone is just thinking for themselves and so an individualistic mindset is good like telling people
00:34:41.640
they need to work hard but at the same time you should have some sort of camaraderie and brotherhood
00:34:46.560
with the with the people that you live with and america is definitely losing that so i think it's
00:34:51.020
extremely important this is why i think that you will be the inevitable president because there's
00:34:57.160
nobody who's really trying to push that message like a lot of people are getting into politics i see
00:35:03.140
because most of them are liberal and they're trying to to push social justice forward and
00:35:08.780
push uh an idea to show people that change could be made if a lot of it is i i mean it's all identity
00:35:16.460
politics but you're the only one who's saying like really the whole message is america first is just
00:35:22.260
be proud of where you're from like nationalism those types of ideas are have been distanced uh quite a
00:35:29.080
bit besides trump for example who really you could tell he loves this country but it has went away
00:35:33.680
yeah i am curious because you described yourself as a as a force not really as a person did you
00:35:40.880
always see yourself that way um i mean it's kind of a personal thing but i've just been thinking about
00:35:47.920
that's just something i was talking about with a friend of mine recently i mean i i feel like i'm kind
00:35:53.420
of a unique person to be in this situation because like the pressures don't affect me in the same way
00:36:00.740
like if an average person were banned from instagram it would kind of be like ruinous to them in a
00:36:08.120
certain way you know like the sacrifices that i've had to make just to say these things which is kind
00:36:13.400
of outrageous it's like i go on a live stream and i just give my point of view and i've had this like
00:36:20.900
crazy pressure all my friends from high school stop talking to me i get banned from banks i get put on
00:36:27.060
the no-fly list i get subpoenaed by congress like crazy stuff which is crazy and i feel like your
00:36:34.060
average person if they were really married to the idea of well what about my friends what about my
00:36:39.760
esteem what about my reputation what about my prospects with a girlfriend it's like you notice
00:36:45.400
all the girls on the panel whenever they lose the argument they go they were like that black girl with
00:36:50.640
the jewish boyfriend she was saying shit to me like boom so are you gonna get married how are you
00:36:56.320
in other words she was like attacking me like how are you gonna get a girlfriend talking like that
00:37:00.800
and it's always like yeah she's just bitchy like and you know she was nice enough spell it out properly
00:37:07.220
imagine like compromising your morals and being the change you want to see in the world to get your
00:37:12.620
penis rubbed by a girl exactly well and but just this signaling of like and this is i hate this because
00:37:20.760
more than anything i'm just like a rebel like i hate authority i want to be independent
00:37:24.940
and it's this idea of like well society isn't gonna let you like oh well it'd be a shame if
00:37:33.860
something happened like that black girl she's like well freedom of speech is a freedom from
00:37:38.180
consequences in other words like you should be afraid because you'll get your ass kicked and i just
00:37:43.720
hate that idea it's really dumb and anyway but a normal person who is deeply invested in stuff like
00:37:50.080
that would say i'm not an idiot of course i'm not going to ruin my prospects with a girlfriend or with
00:37:58.100
my friends or in my neighborhood or whatever just to say racist stuff on the internet because that's how
00:38:04.180
they see it you know but for me it's like um you know though those things have primacy in my mind
00:38:10.880
like that's why i say i'm more of a political force than a guy because it's not even like a
00:38:16.260
second thought i'm like yeah like i'm i'm uh of course i'm gonna say the thing of course i'm gonna
00:38:22.560
go on fresh and fit or throw up a roman or say the n-word or whatever and it's not even a second
00:38:28.120
thought like oh but what if a girl gets mad what if like girlfriends in the future find out about it
00:38:33.700
you know what i'm saying so i feel like that's always been my disposition well we got 20 from fat bar
00:38:38.940
and said nick is a national treasure we have to protect at all costs i i mean i agree like whether
00:38:43.860
or not you agree especially actually for the people that disagree and hate you you have to admit
00:38:49.900
that there's not really anybody else who's put it on the line this much for his country at the age
00:38:56.020
that you've done it at even like people in their 40s if i can't think of anybody who's invested this
00:39:00.340
much trump for example he got to enjoy the models and the fun life and stuff for years and for decades
00:39:07.080
in new york before he really even decided like being president was like okay i'll just run for
00:39:11.320
president right love this country but you're doing from 18 from 17 18 maybe even younger you just
00:39:18.840
decided like this is exactly what you want to do so to have that level of commitment into something
00:39:23.680
that you believe in for the people that dislike you you need to respect that level of commitment
00:39:29.620
into being the change that you want to see which is what i like i think that the argument to a lot
00:39:35.920
of what you talk about is like how does this benefit you like how are you going to provide
00:39:41.640
for your family how are you going to improve your life how are you going to be better like you should
00:39:46.660
there's a level of compromise that we always talk about um when it comes to talking about things that
00:39:51.960
could get you in trouble that people are going to dislike but you you have really put it all on the
00:39:57.820
line and what i like is you saying that you need to be the change that you want to see in the world
00:40:01.340
because i agree if you can't i think that if you don't put it on the line to some extent you don't
00:40:07.960
have any position to complain about anything right because you're not risking anything at all like
00:40:12.080
the people that complain the most aren't doing anything for the stuff that they hate they just
00:40:16.060
complain and then expect it to change and they kind of get off and that oh things are rigged
00:40:21.160
against me like okay but what are you going to do about it right right you're you're an example
00:40:24.840
of somebody that without really without any handouts without any other tools besides a computer
00:40:30.420
and a phone which is what everybody has you are putting out energy into the world that is making
00:40:35.780
a dent well and my life is just based on this radical notion that you would deny yourself that you
00:40:43.840
would give your life for something which for whatever reason that maybe more than anything
00:40:48.760
that's the consensus i think maybe even more than liberalism or you know wokeism whatever you
00:40:54.400
want to say maybe the the real consensus that is that everyone assumes is that we have to live
00:41:03.820
in the sense that i don't see anybody in the world today saying like i'm gonna die for something like
00:41:10.500
i'm really ready to die for what i believe in i mean people say you know they they go and fight
00:41:15.540
in iraq for their country but i mean really really not even like die even in a real sense but
00:41:21.520
like an ego death which is maybe even a greater thing like there's a lot of people who go and
00:41:26.380
fight in iraq and they'll maybe die for real but they're dying for something or sacrificing for
00:41:31.080
something that people are going to say hey thank you for your service who's going to go out there
00:41:34.800
and sort of die they'll have this self-death of get called the nazi like i do like because it's not
00:41:41.380
even just that maybe more than being banned from things it's this dehumanization where people are
00:41:47.460
constantly emasculating me my name is removed from things i get treated like i'm not a person
00:41:53.320
but i mean i was always willing to do that the amount of slander i see you get under is is it's
00:41:58.880
incredible that and especially there's this kind of i think vosh and and destiny were talking about
00:42:05.220
it's funny that it comes from leftists they expect white guys to put up with so much more slander
00:42:10.900
than any other like minorities are like a little microaggression is like it's going to ruin your day
00:42:16.640
like if somebody calls me tai instead of filipino but a white guy like the amount of things that
00:42:20.920
they say about you it's incredible the amount of like mental fortitude that you probably built up
00:42:25.540
um it must like compared to the average person like the average person will hide instagram comments
00:42:30.980
where they call them like their chins fat or something like that right right they're they're
00:42:34.160
just trying to to ruin your life this nazi it's like though there was something about this arizona
00:42:38.900
um conference and then some college and like politicians are calling you stuff it's not just tweets it's
00:42:46.040
like politicians are trying to slander your name mainstream news well and and that's the thing is
00:42:52.680
i from a very early age i realized we're all already dead you know we were born we're already dead and it
00:43:01.040
will happen before you know it you know like i'm i'm gonna turn 25 next month life is moving pretty fast
00:43:07.460
you know but i realized this even before it was moving very fast it's already over and you know we got
00:43:12.880
13 000 people watching somebody who's watching the stream is going to be dead by the end of the year
00:43:18.540
you know and who's it going to be it's going to be one of you it's going to be one of you watching this
00:43:22.860
not me hopefully yeah knock on wood inshallah neither of us
00:43:26.660
but it's it's going to be somebody and you're not going to know you know and in the bible like a lot
00:43:33.800
of conservatives are into eschatology like how's the world going to end chat but one of it's not you
00:43:38.340
but you can read it another way which is that we don't know the day or the hour that any of us
00:43:43.120
are going to die you know not the end of the world but that any of us will leave the earth
00:43:46.800
and everybody thinks they've got their 80 years everybody thinks they're going to retire and do
00:43:51.080
the family and everything like that you know but life isn't like that and so people have to make a
00:43:56.940
decision about like how they're going to live intentionally what do you want to live for
00:44:01.900
is it just to get by is it just to be comfortable just in this rat race and that doesn't mean become
00:44:08.080
a martyr or suicide bomber that doesn't mean that you're gonna i'm not saying live for today i'm
00:44:13.660
saying think about the fact that we have a very short time on this earth and the things that really
00:44:18.480
echo in eternity are these moments and these moral decisions we make our actions our words the things
00:44:26.220
that people think matter now i mean people always shit on me like in conservative politics they say
00:44:31.580
aren't you mad that like you've ruined your career at 24 and it's like what i don't get to be some
00:44:37.620
guy on the blaze talking about how israel's awesome and then go to a cocktail party with a bunch of
00:44:42.820
fucking nerds you know what i mean like and i think about a few that's our idea of success but
00:44:49.060
well and but the point is like none of that matters and i know it's super gay to say it like
00:44:54.060
it's kind of a repetitive point you're speaking to to people's souls right now and this is why you've
00:44:58.040
built an army because you're speaking to what people don't really speak about because
00:45:01.560
they would rather go and have a cocktail party with a bunch of nerds that they are pretending
00:45:04.820
that they like but the little things that you remember it's not like even to the extent when
00:45:08.960
you get to wealth it's not the lamborghini or the hoe with the bbl or the the party where you pop
00:45:14.480
the bottles all it has nothing to do with material um possess or anything worldly the things that
00:45:20.780
really matter and that you think about is like a little moment for example but the things that that
00:45:25.080
really stick with me and make me smile i think everybody can relate to this type of one if you can
00:45:29.200
like when when you help an old lady with her bag like that's the smallest example that's a corny
00:45:34.700
example but just like you know that feeling afterwards that when you do something good
00:45:37.940
that you didn't have to do but you did it because it's the right thing to do and that that warm feeling
00:45:43.000
that you don't get that from alcohol drugs or anything else that's something that is not they'll
00:45:48.960
say like you've ruined your career all this stuff but the the warm feeling i get every day like
00:45:53.860
it's not the extent that of you obviously but like i'm on rumble for example i got banned for telling
00:45:59.420
the truth like every day like the the the righteous feeling i get for the fact that i was right about
00:46:06.280
the vaccine i was right like having you on the stream and saying that the election was rigged and
00:46:10.820
i got a strike and now knowing that when i was on youtube when i had the platform when i had
00:46:16.060
the biggest viewers that i that i had in my career when i was i chose to say the right things and
00:46:22.440
platform the right people instead of just like you know talk to hoes on like hey this is an only
00:46:27.480
fans girl where do we subscribe you know yeah instead of doing that and making more money to
00:46:33.060
inevitably you know probably get addicted to drugs or just be around a bunch of clout chasing hoes
00:46:37.660
stuff like that the fact that i did the right thing with the platform that gives me a righteous
00:46:41.280
feeling and i was just having a conversation with my dad about finances for example um and i was
00:46:47.620
talking about like you know like i'm financially comfortable now and it's like so what's the next step
00:46:51.560
like what happens if you get banned for example it's like i'll be good i'll find ways to make
00:46:55.860
money i think i'm happier now making money where i'm comfortable enough than i would be
00:47:01.000
like at 30 million and having to compromise more and that's always the moral dilemma i have when it
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comes to even having you on this stream right now because you know how like um bad it is for
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optics in a lot of ways yeah it's just not good like i've told you this it's not good for my career
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like this stream right now because there's some super chats coming in but it's not good like this
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it's going to hurt other platforms wanting me on or for example or the potential to collaborate with
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people but doing having the conversations that you know are important that that righteous feeling
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beats any of the other material or anything you can get from drugs or parties well to me it's even
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more fundamental than that like that's a big part of it for me but to me it's as simple as and i
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always say this on my show when i when i preach against like the uh the sex stuff when you know
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like when tristan tate said oh like i'm with beautiful girls it's not even so much like well
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i'm being self-righteous like i'm doing to me it's more simple like my my satisfaction just comes from
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the fact that like i exist you know like i don't take that for granted i said to steven yesterday we were
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a dinner and he was kind of being a negative nelly he's over there and he's you know antagonizing me
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and kind of being negative and i said steven like come on like we're we're two people i said and we're
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in this moment you know like here we are and one thing we have in common is that we're both alive
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at the same time sharing this moment and there's a beautiful quote by roger scruden who's a philosopher
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and he said that you know all we have are these moments that in a way are eternal like somewhere
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in time are these moments where we are together we come together for a short time and then we're not
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alive anymore and like to that's really my love of god i think that's really where my faith comes from
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more than anything is this love of god that we were created and we get to share in existence i think
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that's what the real love of god is is that we're here we get to share in creation we get to share in
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that and if you so if you don't love that on a on a deep fundamental level i think everything else is
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secondary um but that's why i say mashallah on top of that it's that's why i said before i said it's first
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that we exist but then on top of that it's the moral actions and decisions we make and when i say the
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thing about oh you know this guy said oh well your career has a ceiling and everything it's like
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it's and you got you you sort of um said something about it which is true you said they're pretending
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they're pretending to like each other they're pretending to have a good time i feel like so many
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people in their lives and this is also comes from a philosopher named gerard people chase things
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that other people are chasing right they we are taught what we want exactly by other people that's
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the measure of success you're told that a relationship like for example i didn't even
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want to uh get a girlfriend like i lost my virginity like somewhat young and it was because of the
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pressure like people say oh you're a virgin you're a virgin so i i really like was trying to to have
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sex so bad because i just didn't want to be called a virgin anymore right it wasn't because i actually
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wanted to that bad it was just i just wanted to get rid of that so that i'd be like okay am i cool now
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like am i accepted again i i thought i'm gonna be happy now and then it ended and then it was the
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same position well yeah and we so we want things simply for the fact that other people want them
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it's not even has anything to do with like because i don't know what if people really do want anything
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they want things simply because they see other people want them and that makes them want them
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and for me maybe again getting the fundamentals like i was always just very transparent about
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what i want you know i don't drink i don't never had a girlfriend and people ask me what's that about
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and it's like well i just never wanted to drink i never wanted alcohol and people go well you know
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why not i'm like i don't really have a reason i just don't want to and i don't i don't want to be a
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part of the the republican thing and these parties and whatever like what i want to do and getting to
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what you said a moment ago what makes me feel good is telling the truth being free being independent
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being able to be myself like i value that more i will go to great lengths to secure that and
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everything that i go through is just the price that i pay in order to do those things but that it's
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sort of like for a long time i thought why does anybody live in california it's so expensive
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but people pay there because they love it there you know what i mean and so it's like
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would you rather live in texas which i hate because the taxes are lower it's like no and
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similarly i want to be in the place of being a free man if i have to get attacked and not have a
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different kind of a life that's the tax that's the price that i pay and that you know that's my moral
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and personal decision i'm making as a person that's why i'll be happy when i die i'm not going to have