SNEAKO - May 13, 2023
Playback Responds To SNEAKO Exposing The Redpill Godfather
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Summary
On this episode of the podcast, we are joined by the man himself the godfather, Red Pill himself, and a very special guest who happens to be the Grand Wizard of the Red Pill godfather. We discuss a variety of topics, including: 1. Why the internet is a place of extreme ideology 2. 3. What is the best way to become a high value man? 4. Why is it important to have a good relationship with your father 5. What are the 8 quickest ways to become the highest value man 6. How do you get to the top of the social pyramid 7. Why do you want to be a high-value man 8. How to avoid family creation 9. How you should avoid vasectomy in your 20s
Transcript
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a lot of people made response videos to the um that debate with destiny on fresh and fit and uh
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the grand wizard of red pill douche nozzles like yourself sneeko obliterates the red pill godfather
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you know what's funny you know what's really funny about this i guarantee you abba and preach
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really want to make a video covering this but they can't because it makes me look good i guarantee
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you they're seeing all this drama right now uh that's happening on fresh and fit in the the the
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double door of the red pill and they they they really want to chime in but it's gonna paint me
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in a good light because i won the debate and they're probably on my side when it comes to that
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and so they have to push a specific narrative that i'm a bad person you know i'm a grifter i switched
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up i'm going crazy all the same stuff isn't that pretty funny like why that because this is right
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up their wheelhouse this is exactly what they make videos about but and there's a specific reason
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why they haven't why do you think that is are they making more jubilee videos bro come on man
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you know that's true you know that's true what a playback say let's see let's see this one so a
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couple videos ago we talked about the eight quickest ways to become a high value man now the man himself
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made that tweet in there um he gave us two very pivotal informations one was a vasectomy and two was
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avoiding child creation now we did a lot of speculation on what exactly he meant by that so
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we actually have the man himself the godfather red pill as well as sneak on and destiny to give
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him a little bit pushback let's see what he meant by that you want to be a high value man if you want
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to get to that apex level as fast as you can that's how is that not the the the best way to go about it
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okay so the point of that whole tweet which was basically a throwaway tweet that everyone started
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like snowballing into something else i've got ben shapiro coming at me i got matt walsh coming at
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me i got lauren chen coming at me i got all these people off of daily wire because it was just easy
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low-hanging fruit for these guys because they think that that's what the fucking manosphere is all about
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and it's not okay that was not fucking advice everything that is on twitter yes it was bro you don't get to pretend like you
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shout out the tweet but then you didn't want nothing to do with it literally like you said these are the
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eight things to become a high value man that was quite literally that's it that's actually exactly
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what advice means advice why would you shit out advice that important why not take time to consider
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all the potential ramification imagine a whole bunch of niggas like oh shit the godfather said
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let me just go get some vasectomies start snipping and snipping away at their penis it was a throwaway
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tweet bro you don't get it bro that's insane you can't you can't just walk that back why don't you
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just say i was wrong bro so again just a quick reminder of what is not advice do not get married
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avoid family creation vasectomy in your 20s uh live consistently eliminate all sedation learn game
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networking play uh play to your strengths and build wealth resist uh easing up on your focus does that
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not all sound like advice you gave bad advice just say like you know after reconsidering it i was wrong
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but instead you're choosing to pretend as if they're like oh i didn't even mean nothing truly by it when
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i told niggas to not get married i was like it's like this avant-garde red pill expression it's kind of
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like a slayer song constructed in a tweet it's not advice it's not a joke you don't get it it's it's high
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value explanation that was a throwaway tweet i was just throwing that advice away really at the end
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of the day i was just throwing it on twitter a bunch of people are just using the internet as an
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opportunity to grift and make money from different factions by making people more extreme so like but
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at the same time you also make money by kind of fence sitting and not having any specific point of
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view if you're going to criticize the red pill idea at least at least they have like this is exactly
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what i believe in i am going to promote this ideology you guys you don't have anything it's
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just talking about other people because it's better you don't really get scrutinized you don't get
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criticized you don't really engage in debates like that so you don't risk anything you don't risk
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looking dumb you just get to go and call other people dumb it's it's the safest play and also you
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make a lot more money off of it so i wouldn't say it's fair to go and criticize saying that they're
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they're they're grifting when you know your fence sitting they'll just sell you on an ideology and
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they don't choose to explore beyond that because that's not what's gonna sell and so it's like
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there's no nuance it's just like let's subscribe to these beliefs blindly and niggas like this guy
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is gonna take advantage of it like sure he probably says things that are useful for men but i'm saying
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when you can't even admit when you gave bad advice like how is that a nigga you're supposed to take
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seriously you don't but it's a whole bunch of people trying to monetize the fact that they could
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potentially build an audience by grifting and the part that gets me upset is there's actual
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expert like it's one thing to be an expert and have an opinion jordan peterson is an expert he was a
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professional for decades he has an opinion whether or not you agree with his opinion disagree is
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irrelevant but he's not he has he has a wealth he has a career of point is it's like there's just
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niggas that don't have titles they be in their 20s run around like pearl and i don't know who the
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fuck this nigga is just run around giving advice because they know they can monetize it that was not
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fucking advice everything that is on twitter is not advice okay was that a joke no it was not
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to say a joke but it's like let's just say it's a hypothetical okay that's not that's not what
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hypothetical means man you're ducking bro thanks to the five uh weren't abba right though your debate
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he literally told you chasing women gets old and spending time with family is more important
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and you were saying the opposite was i saying the opposite i don't i don't think that i said that
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i don't think that's what i ever said in that debate
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for just five seconds okay there's no joke here
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okay it's not advice it's clearly not a joke and for anybody who like who's defending that this is
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fucking not very rational of him right there i'm just asking a question look how mad he gets
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for just five seconds shut the fuck up for just five seconds okay there's no joke here because
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this ain't no fucking joke here this is a hypothetical everything that's come out of
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one of you guys's mouth has been nothing but distraction and misdirection because it's easy
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and clicks for you so here's the whole thing this nigga got tight but again if you go back to the tweet
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majority of that tweet would not be deemed as a hypothetical majority of the that tweet are things
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shut the fuck up for five fucking seconds it's not a fucking joke this is the manosphere i'm
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getting snip right now men preach routinely bro the emotional mail in the chat that was a douche
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nozzle argument man tell me you should bring pooty on fresh and fit i'm down i'm with it i'm with it
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make full videos about it the explanation behind most of the things that were on that list it becomes
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a hypothetical because you made a hyperbolic statement that you now do not want to get behind
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anymore because you sound crazy from making that sentiment but y'all have made endless videos
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recommendations i don't know you don't call it advice anymore but y'all have made several videos
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explaining the importance of majority of things that were in that tweet but now all of a sudden
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it's a hypothetical that makes no sense that would make all your advice hypotheticals channel
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when i'm talking about get a vasectomy or don't be or don't be or don't be concerned with when he's
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mad his glasses get uneven on his nose you see okay i'm really mad about this guys guys shall we keep
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going are we just gonna have jokes thrown in here you started really heated about this is that what i
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get to is that what i get to do it okay so here's the deal of course when i'm when i'm talking about
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this when i'm throwing this out there why wouldn't you do that would you not have been more successful
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sneaker had you not had to go through certain things if you had a kid right you would be you
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would be playing the game with a handicap you'd be playing the game with your hands tied behind your
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back okay so right now there are guys right now who you have who i have a lot of respect for and i'm
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sure you have a lot of respect for you see how he has this idea in his head he said you'd be more
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successful that's why i just wanted to ask him like what's a high value man because you have this idea
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of success what is that clearly it's different than mine success is not just about having a certain
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amount of a big a bank account or 10 lamborghinis my idea of success is includes family so that's
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why i'm just trying to ask him this question like what do you think success even is what's a high
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value man he couldn't answer it so it's like it's gonna change your opinion though but he literally
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said he was losing his balls as a man no i said he's losing his balls very by like his demeanor and
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energy like yeah that's not the reason why i said that hk thanks for the 10 seizure shut the
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up for just five seconds would you as well who are who all have kids but you know what they try
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to do try to keep it under wraps okay nobody knows about kids okay so here's okay first off this is
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not advice everything that is on my show or is on twitter is not automatically advice but here you have
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this set automatically that if it comes out of your mouth it's automatically advice it can't just be data
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it can't just be statistics also i really realized in this debate how even though he probably spoke
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90 of it like you could talk yourself a tool like talking the most doesn't mean that you won the
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person who and ironically the person who stays the most rational the person who stays the more stoic
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and doesn't get triggered especially in a debate on public platform wins if you get mad if you get
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triggered and if you you could talk your way into losing the debate he talked he talked himself into a
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hole i said very little this whole time just like ask the questions is it advice what's high value man
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what do you mean are you sure like just i just asked questions and he completely got blown out of the
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water it can't be nothing can be just delivered sort of like here's some here's some data for you to look
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at okay nothing can be nothing can be not data data would have numbers and support and there would be some
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there would be a wealth of evidence to back up you just gave a list of things are you trying to convince us
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us that's not is he thinking we're like fucking dumb i don't know we're not dumb we all look at
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that we're not we didn't just learn the english language pussy like we know that that's
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fucking that's oh my god yeah why did you get it all gangster bro it's like yeah i'm not dumb
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nigga why pussy what's up man i'm not getting no fucking vasectomy what's up man yo pull up
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man this here what's good nigga yeah pussy what's up man i'm trying to listen to this nigga tell me
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yo this is not an energy drink it's just a drink with a bunch of chemicals in it
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it's not bro this is not petroleum jelly bro it's not petrol and i'm sitting here looking at
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petroleum jelly bro come on bro this this might work if you're under the age of 10 i promise it
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might this is again like you said them just trying to sell this image and this ideology to a bunch of
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people and then when they get caught on how ridiculous it sounds now they're trying to back
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track and say that the list of things that i was explaining on mike that should be done all of a
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sudden that's no longer advice it's a hypothetical like what are we saying right now you are a serial
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advice giver you give advice that's what you do your purpose is to try and teach people your
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ideology or how to be a high value man so if a lot of what you do is advice you get on these podcasts
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and you give plenty of advice then why when you do it on twitter it's a hypothetical why when it's
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finally a take that people don't agree with it's a hypothetical shut the fuck up because if everybody
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agreed with what you're saying you would have been like yeah i gave great advice over the
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fucking top that everybody wants to take it out of out of context which is exactly what you guys have
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been doing so what is it can you tell me what that tweet was if it wasn't advice it's not advice
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what it is is it's it's okay it's saying that this is the most extreme way to do things okay
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here's the uh here's the um the quickest path to if i told you this look if i said the the quickest way
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for you to make a million dollars like literally literally like putting it on the screen it's even
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worse it's even worse it's even like when you put on the screen it's even worse when he says it bro
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that sounds like advice is to go is to go steal it from the bank or go to steal it does that mean i'm
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telling you to go steal it if i tell you to go jump off a cliff are you gonna go jump off a cliff
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by the way here's the other thing is i'm also responding to dr richard reeves in this as well
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okay there's a lot of context about it sure but all the rest of the list you're equating vasectomy
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to lifting game play to your strength resisting up on easing your focus the rest of it sounds like
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general advice okay let's let's say so so let me talking over let me ask you so is it the vasectomy
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part that's throwing you off genuine good advice right the rest of it so is it the vasectomy part
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yeah do you agree with pretty much everything else except for the vasectomy part the first three is
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weird because then i don't even know what the red pill idea of a high value man is is it just being
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rich like what's the point of having all this money and not having a family why be that rich the guy
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who's always grinding whoa brandon carter doesn't have to do his laundry sick what else are you going
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to do with your life right right maybe this is actually meant so that you'll get it you'll have a
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freaking epiphany about how there's how all the that you have to see so he gets mad when i'm
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joking and i'm asking him he calls himself the godfather you tell me sacrifice to get to that
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in the first place what are you willing to sacrifice are you willing to are you willing
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to live the kind of life let's say he didn't answer my question like a brandon carter is where you're
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going to outsource your entire life or are you going to actually is is that something that's a
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priority for you because i'll tell you right now that if you do if you follow you know yeah he didn't
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hear me because he's talking over the whole time but brandon carter has that was his idea of a high
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value man if you don't he's a fitness influencer or stuff like that has businesses has kids this
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kind if you if you were to actually follow this list right here that is the fastest way for you
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to get to a point where you are more high value which is what you which is what you try and teach
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people to do that's the advice if you follow these list of things to do you will that's so that's advice
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so jesus you're literally saying the things that you're like you're like giving the definition of
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advice without accepting the fact that you are advising and anybody in the chat right now who's
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advocating towards vasectomies too that's like telling somebody if they're questioning their
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gender go get transgender surgery because it's reversible no it's better if you keep the your
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body the way god created it's advice right all right so howard sneeko is getting to this point where
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you're trying to figure out if you're advising men or if you're saying to follow these steps of
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becoming a high value man in the quickest way possible it sounds as if like we may be disagreeing
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on what it means to be a high value man so sneego then prompts the question what exactly does it
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mean to be a high value man which is a fantastic question i've been talking a lot for five minutes
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what is your definition of a high value man it doesn't matter that's not what i was talking about
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in there that's literally exactly what he was talking about that was the subject of the tweet it's
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just the amount of backtracking here is incredible for somebody of his age man
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i don't know what you're talking about that's what i got now it doesn't matter it's literally
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all you guys talk about is non-stop is advising how does it not matter anymore it mattered so much
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for three years and keep in mind he's the one who wanted to join like he's the one who was in the
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super chat saying let me join the call lost relevance just like that over the course of this combo and
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thanosnap the first part of the tweet is how to become a high value man the fastest way to become a
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high value man is to recognize to recognize the fact that you've got that you've got sacrifices to
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make okay telling like stories from vietnam like just say what is a high value man it's the first
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part of the tweet what does that mean you tell me what a high value man is you wrote the tweet bro
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also you notice how he bass boosts his microphone to somewhere alpha because here's the thing is it
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doesn't matter it doesn't matter what i'm going to say is a high value man because it's your tweet
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it doesn't matter what i say is a high value man because everybody takes this the point of the
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tweet is that everybody is going to take this and then insert their own definition of what a high
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value man is kids when you're 16. then your tweet doesn't work does it what if your definition of
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a high value man is being uh getting into a trade and having five kids by the time you're 22. then it
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is being an esports professional you're making my you're absolutely making my point for me right here okay
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this is what i'm saying my point is is a high value man you gave a list of eight things do these
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eight things to become a high value man do one through eight to become a and you're not defining
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what a is the fastest way to becoming a high value man i swear to god i actually think he's brain dead
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yes he's done bro and you you and it's on yo it's funny it's like everything you say sounds good when
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you say it to people that agree with you but once you say it to niggas that don't agree with you like
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the ship begins to crumble like it doesn't hold up to scrutiny bro he's asking good questions i mean they're good
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like basic fundamental questions and what's even scarier is that we've gotten this deep into this
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whole red pill manosphere space and one of the fundamental foundational members of the manosphere
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cannot answer a very basic question the grand wizard to him what does it mean to be a high value man what
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is that what does that mean it doesn't matter type of one if you started to question the manosphere and
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the red pill a little more after this debate because it definitely made me be realize like
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okay bro this is this is definitely too far i think it's just a reflection of somebody who spends all
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this time just talking about this subject and you become kind of bitter about it if you only come in
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this one space and you kind of like oh women you need to go avoid them then you end up just bitter
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about it and it's good to have other things in your life if you make this your entire wheelhouse you're
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going to be you're going to be kind of delusional just like the feminists we make fun of one so
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there's a lot of ones in here yeah it definitely made me like sitting here listening to this i was
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just honestly curious about what he meant i wanted to hear more of his takes everyone in this space
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like yo you have to read his books you have to read his books like i don't it's long as shit i don't
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feel like it who is this guy so let me talk to him and when he's not able to answer something that
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specific like or he's backtracking on it if this if this tweet is an advice then what is this book
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is this whole book a hypothetical is entire work a hypothetical is this ideology a hypothetical if
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this is the the grand wizard of this like why would i even listen to it if if you can't if you can't
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determine what's advice and what's not you can't even define a very specific term that every like
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literally the entire manosphere is about being high value and you don't even know what that is it
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all depends on who who's defining it like none of this made any sense i said i'm just sitting here
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realizing like fuck man like maybe i've invested too much time and energy and i've given too much
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credibility to a space that makes absolutely no sense that's not what i was talking about in this
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you can't then sit here and say that oh it doesn't really matter when it's literally been the entire
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point of your you you giving advice to young men you trying to mold young men the whole concept of
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guiding men in a certain direction is to become a high value man but when we ask you what does it mean
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you now all of a sudden it doesn't matter this is like literally it was exactly like the what is a
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woman argument do you guys ever see that the map we we watch the what is a woman documentary he sits
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down like and ask a transgender professor like what is a woman a woman is whoever identifies as a woman
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okay what is that a woman is whoever says she's a woman okay so but what is that thing like it's a
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circular definition this is literally like one-on-one or just trying to sell someone a image or idea like
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this big dream and then you ask them well what is it at the what's it what's at the end of this
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rainbow what's at the end of the path what what is it that we're trying to accomplish and they're
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going to keep just pushing it forward and not really be very vague semantics because they want
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you to continue to go down this path so they can just keep leading you along to nothingness bro before
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one by one what is a high value man we can't have an argument if i don't even know what your
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the point is the very fact that actually lo made a really good point here if you give
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if you give advice that gets them out of the space then they stop being able to make money off
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of it then you stop being able to monetize it if you give them a solution then there's nothing really
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to talk about so it needs to be kind of dooms like it needs to be kind of pessimistic and negative
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so that you can always make this argumentative content you could always be complaining you could
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always be saying yeah women are bad you need to stay away from the vasectomy if you give them
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the solution which is just find a woman who you want to spend the rest of your life with
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then they're not going to need to keep watching your content then it ends then there's no more
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manosphere there's no more there's nothing more to talk about if you say like hey just don't invest
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your time with things that you don't like then that's it you don't get to keep then your channel's
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over but thanks for the 10 he said a high value man is a man who other men want to be and women
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want to be with one he didn't say this in the debate and two quality women which i know that he
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disagrees later on he says there's no quality women women want to have children women do not
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want to be with somebody i understand getting a vasectomy later on in life like i know grown men
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who have like kids and stuff like that and they end up getting a vasectomy because they have several
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kids and they decided like it's i'm you know i had enough children now makes perfect sense at that
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point but he was advocating towards men in their 20s how to become a high value man like get a vasectomy
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in your 20s you're very specific about the age the women that you want to be with that you want to sleep
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with want children unless you just want to fuck feminists all the time because because you don't want to have
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kids with them then you're telling people only women that you don't like because the women you
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do like quality women want kids this makes no sense they really brought uh roly on to dr phil to talk
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about the red pill when they did the episode about tate out of all people keep up the good work you're
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an inspiration uh dawson x yay yeah dawson needs to meet yay uh yay got the red media thing from
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dawson i i didn't watch that dr phil episode go down this path so they can just keep leaving you along
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it's had nothingness bro before one by one what is a high value man we can't have an argument if i
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don't even know what the point is the very fact that you're even asking this in the first place
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is the actual point of the tweet that's that's that's so retarded okay so if you got if you're
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going to be a high value man with the hands tied behind your back then what is that what does that
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mean to you that's the point this whole discussion is the point of the tweet
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the tweet was you've got some conception yeah destiny like he's really good to have like i've
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debated with him so much to have him on your side and debate is just op uh projects thanks for the
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25 you realize the only full as well is the crime for your faith and not law the red police is in a
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major sin a real man starts a family the manosphere and feminism leads to hedonism yes the manosphere is
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actually just the reverse of feminism it's the same thing on for men high value man here are eight
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points that you think you need to do to get to it and now you're getting blown the up on the
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vasectomy thing which you probably realize is fucking retarded but you're too old and stubborn
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to walk back from it that's the point of this conversation bro he i i've actually learned a
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lot debating him over the months i i can't even lie i know a lot of you guys don't like him because
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blue hair because blah blah blah open relationships like that he is an extremely effective debater none of
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you can lie about that and the fact that like we we agree on something really small like we disagree
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on pretty much everything else and even after on the after hours we disagreed but we agree on how
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advocating for vasectomies is retarded so having him just just on that point we were able to be
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like to work together bro that that felt like shaq and kobe it's like that was unreal i think we could
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have a good podcast hk thanks for the 20 if it's not advice so he posted it to gain followers more
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reach and at the same time he said you're doing this for easy clicks hypocrisy yeah he kept saying
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like you're doing this for clicks it's not advice so he's doing it for engagement which is retarded
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because he also criticized that criticized us for that and then he kept saying like go back to twitch as if this
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stream isn't on fucking twitch we're on twitch right now fresh if it streams on twitch you join
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the stream we you weren't even in here you were in the super chat saying add me and then you're going
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to say go back to twitch after you join our stream how does that make any sense do you want us to leave
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so that it could just be you sitting here and walk back from it because the point of it was to get
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douche nozzles like yourself to have this conversation in the first place how old are you cringe
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you're a weird one buckaroo you're weird douche nozzles yeah hey he douche nozzles it was over bro it was
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over because i i didn't say anything insulting to him he got really mad and i was just asking questions damn bro
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hey this right here is a guy this is the godfather the grandfather whatever he is of the red pill bro
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lame ass nigga bro what are you what are you talking about
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y'all understand like how like just crazy this is right now you have to define
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that's you know what i realized even in my own relationships like that actually is that's a good
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point though what they're saying is such a good point well bottom line man like this is when i
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started to feel bad because like at fit genuinely at 55 i don't want to be calling people 30 years
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younger than me like over twice like he's literally twice my age over twice my age i don't want to be
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calling people the douche nozzles on the live stream that's not my idea of a high value man i'd rather
00:24:37.000
be spending my time in so many other places if you whatever even if you still agree with the
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the manosphere and the the red pill grand wizard bro if that's what you want to be doing at 55 by
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all means but i'm in a different world at that point if you only realize when it's happening
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sometimes you got different definitions at the same term so the argument you're having you will
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never see each other's pov because you won't argue about the same thing so they're trying to
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just clarify definitions and he's making it so complicated all they're asking him is a simple
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question he's probably answered thousands of times before but he's afraid to answer it and this is the
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truth because he knows it will not hold up to scrutiny yeah so he can't bear actually answer and say
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what's at the core of his fucking beliefs because he knows it will crumble that's fucking sad you built
00:25:23.320
your life around this ideology you better get it together and fucking spit it out nigga on this podcast
00:25:27.960
wait chat chat you keep saying that he's uh he's one of them boys is he is he really one of them
00:25:33.160
boys bro douche nozzles yes you guys are idiots why you guys come in here from twitch straight like how
00:25:41.800
you guys are legitimate in all this i don't know because everything i hear come out of you guys's
00:25:45.720
mouth is just confident ignorance why did you guys come in here okay we were on this stream before you
00:25:51.640
you asked to join our stream our round table and then you're like why are you here and then you
00:25:58.040
say what is like how are you have credibility what is your credibility you're saying avoid family
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creation you have a family you're in a monogamous marriage like and you talk about like bro just
00:26:10.920
because you wrote a book he he this is what i was realizing this guy really thinks that he's a scholar
00:26:16.840
when it comes to relationship advice because he wrote a book but validity comes from people's
00:26:23.000
perception of it and this is the truth about high value your value is determined by how other people
00:26:27.640
see it it's like the value of bitcoin bitcoin has value because people perceive it to be at a certain
00:26:31.960
price the dollar has value because people have a certain idea that one dollar will get me a bottle
00:26:37.000
of water it's based on everybody's perception of it so if you don't have that perception if most people
00:26:42.440
are clowning you if most people think it's goofy then you don't have you can't just define it in
00:26:47.000
your head that i'm this guru i'm the grand wizard when most people think it's goofy value is determined
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by society okay i'm not asking you like in terms of the debate you call yourself the godfather of the
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red pill you call yourself the godfather of the manosphere okay other people have called me that okay
00:27:06.840
great great do you understand okay so grandfather of the mana which one is whatever it is the old
00:27:13.320
guy of the manosphere what is your definition of high value man this is the number one talked about
00:27:17.800
topic on all of these shows so i want to get a clear definition from you what is it you tell again
00:27:24.520
it depends on the person it's a yikes yikes oh he's getting bad it's getting bad dog and i'm telling
00:27:35.320
you why he can't answer because when it it will not hold up to scrutiny the his coral belief will not
00:27:42.360
hold up to basic criticism see what you see here's the thing is you guys you want you guys want me to say
00:27:48.280
okay a high value man makes a hundred thousand dollars a year he's really afraid of answering a specific
00:27:52.280
question because he thinks he's going to get boxed in but all it does is just invalidate his argument
00:27:56.440
even more because the the whole point of this discussion was about your definition of a high
00:28:00.920
value man he like he's he's trying to avoid entrapment and in turn he's just trapping himself more
00:28:07.400
hey look perfect example of how talking too much in debate can actually really hold you back he's
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fuck 50 chicks no we want you to give your definition oh my god the problem is is he's pretending
00:28:17.480
like there's infinite definitions it just depends on what you value but if that was true
00:28:21.960
look back at the tweet that's not what the tweet communicated your tweet communicated there was
00:28:27.080
an ideal high value man and this is how you aspire to it and one of them was cutting your dick so we're
00:28:33.480
asked he the big how is it like bro this is like this is a very um but again i refuse to believe that
00:28:39.640
he's this dumb he's not he's not he's dodging purposefully he's dodging purposely which is why he's
00:28:45.720
coping he realized that the vasectomy was terrible advice and so he's trying to justify it in whatever
00:28:50.200
avant-garde way but problematic this is a part of the grift this is something very fundamental to
00:28:56.200
what they believe also if what you're instead of instead of finding out that your core beliefs don't
00:29:00.760
hold up to scrutiny the purpose of the red pill absolves it ceases to exist if this is truly how you
00:29:07.240
feel if you truly believe a high value man just exists based on your definition then i think high
00:29:13.320
value men should be obese and 700 pounds and i think they should be broke and live in their mom's house
00:29:17.640
that's my definition and i'll give you the eight tips on how to do it you can have your own tips
00:29:21.720
but at that point it has no meaning for nobody dumb ass nigga okay now let's stop think about
00:29:26.120
this very carefully do they not then criticize women for doing the exact same thing when women
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come in these podcasts and they sit there and they try to explain how they value themselves and how men
00:29:36.040
have to accept them for what they are exactly this is the perfect point for to how when people say that
00:29:41.800
the manosphere is just feminism for men they're right like if if this if this is this your grand
00:29:47.320
wizard if that is then manosphere is just feminism for men is he not basically saying the exact same
00:29:52.360
thing facts because they'll say men decide what they value exactly if that is the case then the
00:29:58.520
women should really be deciding on average what they value in men and so that men they seek the most
00:30:04.280
is what's considered high value i don't even like the term because that's not doesn't make you a good
00:30:08.360
human at all it just means that you're most desired by women yes but you can't even make
00:30:13.080
these points because you suck at arguing and you're in a room full of people that argue a lot
00:30:18.280
and for a living and you're crumbling under the pressure you made the right he does engage in a
00:30:23.000
lot of debates it's not like he's just not a debater i've seen him he's done a lot of debates before
00:30:26.360
did you see his definition on twitter later bro blocked me i got blocked and i didn't you know
00:30:33.000
so it'll look like it shouldn't deserve to exist not even that's a problem you he's doing such
00:30:38.040
a bad job he's making as if like the whole ideology is bad shouldn't even exist bro it does
00:30:42.600
it's not bad your argument is it doesn't matter what i think it's all based off of your own
00:30:47.400
personal beliefs and that i chat i i do i actually like these guys man i'm gonna i'm gonna be honest
00:30:52.440
i know that they have some disagreements the freshman fit i do like these guys and type of one
00:30:56.280
if you would like to see another podcast i think they close a peer-to-peer podcast but
00:30:59.400
i don't have any personal beef with them it's the purpose of anything that we're doing then but
00:31:03.560
again that still doesn't make any sense because like he said forget the vasectomy part any
00:31:07.720
your tweet you said one of the quickest ways to become high value man is to consistently lift
00:31:12.280
in terms of like getting muscle right what if my perception of a high value man is to not have
00:31:17.480
muscle i can just be a fat slob 700 pounds that's my concept of a high value man so again it's still
00:31:22.520
contradicting there's clearly an ideal of what a high value man is to you because you outline things
00:31:28.280
that would get you to that point and the reality of what's happening is is we have found people on the
00:31:33.240
internet men and women alike who have found a way to monetize the loneliness and the overall
00:31:39.240
frustration that a lot of men have been feeling because it sucks to feel like you're not desired
00:31:44.280
it sucks to feel like you can't attract the type of woman that you want and so a new section of the
00:31:49.240
internet has spawned to help assist these people and even if some people in that sphere had good
00:31:54.760
intentions there's grifters like this who will sit there and tell you that you have to watch every
00:31:59.240
piece of his content to understand his ideology you got my book here you got my book did you read
00:32:03.960
my pdf online did you read the e-book too i got an e-book take the time out to buy and read my book
00:32:08.280
and then we can get back to this conversation that's why it's not that's not the proper solution
00:32:12.440
none of these gurus will have the the best solution i think comes from the quran or if you want the bible
00:32:18.920
i got the bible over here to my right still still think it's worth studying even though i did go to the
00:32:23.800
the master day and everything but i think that the real answers aren't here in all reality you
00:32:29.400
proved to us during the purpose of during the during the length of this call here during this
00:32:33.800
podcast that the things that you believe you don't even believe bro these men get in front of ill-informed
00:32:41.240
and uneducated non-prepared women slam dunk on them and now all of a sudden they make themselves feel
00:32:47.160
good in a room full of other niggas in the chat who also just want to make themselves feel good but as
00:32:52.440
soon as they get some form of pushback how quickly things start to crumble apart because they
00:32:57.720
haven't even thought about these like there's no actual contextualization of their own content
00:33:03.560
their own ideology to the point where you can't even answer a simple question like this i know a
00:33:08.200
lot of you guys like you said you disagree with them you don't like them but they're they're making
00:33:12.200
uh we'll play back and making really good points here you can't deny that but the biggest reason
00:33:16.040
why i even thought that their tweet was cringe and why it sounds even cringier now especially
00:33:20.120
talking about the quickest way bro there's there's no quick way bro i'm gonna let y'all know right
00:33:24.120
now there's no quick way you might get lucky in my happy fast but on average you get good to get
00:33:29.000
lucky yes it's rare that you i should have made that argument that's a great point get lucky before
00:33:33.880
you get good that's like saying the quickest way to get in shape that's just stupid like tate talks
00:33:38.440
about that that's stupid to even think about it's going to be hard it's going to be hard work it's
00:33:42.440
going to take a long time don't think that there's any easy way out you can't go and skip the steps to
00:33:46.840
become high value you need to go through the process or else there's going to be holes in
00:33:50.200
your character there's no quick way great point there's going to be mistakes made great point
00:33:54.600
try to manage those mistakes but the mistakes will build you into a better person anyway forget
00:33:59.160
me and this is a person in a general sense you learn and you grow along the way in a path of life
00:34:05.080
that will allow you to get to the point where you need to be and all the mistakes you made along the
00:34:09.240
way will allow you to sustain that level of excellence so you're going to make the mistakes you're
00:34:13.560
going to make wrong decisions you're going to have to grow but that growth is a part of the
00:34:18.760
process it's a part of what makes you the high value man woman individual person whatever so this
00:34:25.480
idea that i can get a quick way around it the reason why sneeko and them were so persistent on
00:34:30.120
pushing back on the idea of getting a vasectomy is because of the discipline that comes along with you
00:34:34.680
not around and having kids at an early age is a discipline that you will need moving forward when
00:34:39.960
it comes to raising those children yo that's a great point chat but at the same time hey they
00:34:48.360
got they called me cheeto for like two years from 2019 to 2020 i got called cheeto for saying
00:34:53.000
shit on their podcast and let's be honest lo got exposed for cheating on his for cheating on his
00:34:59.160
fiance four times and you go talk all yeah discipline in your 20s discipline in your 20s
00:35:08.040
whatever you said let us know your thoughts in the comment section below and if you want to
00:35:10.920
know the quickest way to be a high value person hit that subscribe button no that's number one
00:35:15.800
okay i want to watch don's take on this chat you still interested in this i i think this sparks some
00:35:20.120
good conversation just do it the way god intended right keep your willy in your pants until you find
00:35:27.400
a wife and then you know and then it's it's it's you know you take off the safety then you unload the
00:35:34.840
clip and you just you just let god do what he do
00:35:42.200
sneeko exposes the red pill video by playback let's check it out instead of razer fam wait he's just
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okay no no no i'm not gonna now it's okay now we're in too deep we're reacting to playback reactions
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okay no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no let
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me watch let me move this one i saw nick reacted to it too we can move on chat
00:36:08.040
now we're pretty much gonna say the same thing right