SNEAKO - July 04, 2023


Shaykh Uthman Tells SNEAKO About When He Was Stabbed...

Topics
gang violence and self-defense debates
Hosted by
Nicolas Kenn De Balinthazy
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David Wood Alhamdulillah Alhamdulillah Merry Christmas
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Length

15 minutes

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3,362

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Misogyny

3

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Toxicity

7

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Hate speech

6

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Summary

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Jummah Kutbahayah (Isaiah) talks about his own personal experience of being stabbed and how he was able to survive it. He also talks about how he handled the situation and what he did in self defense.

Transcript

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00:00:00 so what was the story of you getting stabbed what happened there i went uh to my dentist actually
00:00:05 it wasn't at the park and i was dressed just like this wearing white you know this is the way i
00:00:09 dressed you got stabbed the dentist so i'll tell you story so i was at the dentist i came out
00:00:14 downtown san diego and as i was going this guy was like yelling all this stuff at me he was driving
00:00:19 by i was like what was he get down and talk to me you know the guy kept driving i'm like whatever
00:00:23 so i get in my car i start driving the guy buses a u right he comes after me so he's behind me and
00:00:29 he's talking all this stuff so i pull over because i'm not i don't like i don't like to bark i'm ready
00:00:34 to bite i'm not a barker right so i'm like look if you got something to say say it to my face let's do
00:00:38 this right so i pulled the guy kept going i'm like all right whatever so i keep going i go then he
00:00:45 goes on past i'm like all right he's gone i go to get some gas this guy pulls back so i pull out of
00:00:51 the gas station i pull up and i'm like look you got something to say say it to my face so this guy
00:00:55 jumps out and he starts and i recorded on my phone because the reason i recorded too because we
00:01:00 weren't recording it wasn't that the reason i recorded because i knew that if something happened
00:01:04 the police would arrest me you know i'd be the one that'd be like in trouble because you know they're
00:01:08 always going to blame me so i was like i'm going to record that this guy's coming so i recorded him
00:01:11 and he comes and this video is online and he starts talking all this stuff and i toss my camera i go out
00:01:16 we get into it and i got him and i punched him he got him you know he was this big guy
00:01:20 and during the struggle the guy pulls out a knife i didn't see it and he's he slices me
00:01:25 instantly alhamdulillah i was holding his his knife you know i was holding his hand so he couldn't get
00:01:30 like a good jab but he sliced me and you know right afterwards i realized this guy stabbed me i was
00:01:35 like oh this guy you know so i grabbed his knife he ran away i drove myself you know and i was bleeding
00:01:41 at the time to the hospital yeah so i went to the hospital alhamdulillah i gave the knife you know
00:01:47 all of that to the police because you know it was a stabbing they had to call the police
00:01:50 and you know they patched me up alhamdulillah right afterwards from the hospital i went to go pick up
00:01:56 my son from school i was already patched up but i was like i called him like yo get out of school
00:02:01 and he was like what and you'll see a picture he took you know and i got stabbed but uh you know so i
00:02:07 picked him up came home but i was just i was drained you know but alhamdulillah we met with the police
00:02:13 that guy also got arrested you know a lot of people have tried to figure out you know timings
00:02:19 and all of that to try to get you know because if it was self-defense or not yeah alhamdulillah i
00:02:23 didn't get arrested he did it is self-defense he came at me so we're good you know why did he have
00:02:29 a disagreement with you no he watched the videos he was mad in the video i'll show you the clip you
00:02:35 know he'll be like i'm an infidel come do something i see your videos you know he was he was mad because 0.62
00:02:40 they lose the debates that's that's the whole point is these guys they can't they can't have
00:02:45 a conversation so they get violent right for us uh like even about was he a christian he was christian
00:02:52 yeah wow and interesting he didn't have a record he what he didn't have a record oh so that's why
00:02:58 when they were first got the finger so he was so mad yeah about your videos yeah so stop saying
00:03:04 like debate debate debate you clearly will you clearly will i go out to the park and i stand there
00:03:11 anybody can walk up to me right and they have every major christian apologetic whatever that is brave
00:03:19 enough has come out and our go to the one message foundation channel look at the videos and you can
00:03:24 see them sam anthony hammer time all those guys are out there would you let the savvy guy take his
00:03:31 shahada with you i would with no resentment no resentment that's next level
00:03:38 because that's why he's so upset is that he started to question his entire world view 0.74
00:03:44 and instead of admitting that he could have been wrong or trying to question it he has to stab you
00:03:49 for telling the truth you know this is the same thing that we see from a lot of the people that you
00:03:54 you'll see the videos the regular the christian apologists when they when they lose they get angry
00:03:59 you'll see the video they'll be recording they'll be like yeah record and then when they're losing
00:04:03 they're like turn off the camera like now you don't want to turn off in the beginning that we
00:04:08 ain't turning off now you know uh recently we just posted a video from last sunday from balboa park
00:04:13 we had this christian guy come and i'm talking to him and i'm showing him the bible verses and he
00:04:19 lies straight up he's lying about the bible he's lying he goes he goes because it's the verse which the
00:04:24 one thing when we quoted to don uh young don you know which was that uh you know that jesus here
00:04:29 says that they they may get to know you eternal life and they may get to know you the only true god
00:04:34 you now as you know even though the christian guy tried to be like you don't know english you know like
00:04:40 i was like oh you're trying to take shots here huh but he goes a pronoun in english i mean i know
00:04:46 in california and all that but pronouns still exist right if jesus was saying me he would say i get to
00:04:52 know me or we he didn't he said you the only true god and jesus christ whom you sent right it's very clear
00:05:02 it's in the bible right here right now this guy's telling me it says even jesus christ what i've read
00:05:10 this verse like a million times what are you talking about like look at it you know and then he gets
00:05:14 caught lying right there and then you see him start getting angry right and then he repeats that again
00:05:19 again right he changes right in front of me right and the video is online it's not like it's not like
00:05:25 it's my word again watch it yourself right so when people are unable even atheists a lot of atheists
00:05:32 lose their temper because they take evolution and they take these ideas to be facts when they're not
00:05:37 and when you challenge it when you mention the minimum gene concept because i work in med device
00:05:42 industry i deal with clinical trials all day long i'm all pro science right but if you really take
00:05:47 science these are all theories they're not factored they're changing there are things that are wrong
00:05:53 you know so when you when you give them facts like the minimum gene concept that prove that the first
00:06:00 living cell had to have had a minimum set of genetics that means it could not have evolved by
00:06:04 itself when you give those facts like this is something you can prove in a clinical trial then you
00:06:09 just see them get angry you know they're like look it's not about getting angry let's sit and talk
00:06:14 calmly just bring your evidences right regularly my videos you'll watch i'm like okay i'll let you
00:06:18 speak and then you let me speak but as soon as i start speaking they'll interrupt because their minds
00:06:23 like red flag our whole belief system is being destroyed destroyed eject eject you so that is what 0.80
00:06:32 it is yeah i really like your temperament and debates it's just like they try to get you on their
00:06:36 level of anger and arguing and me versus you be like i'll talk and then you talk it's the best way
00:06:42 to frame any conversation because people used to they have all these tactics for how they can
00:06:47 win but you don't you don't really think of it as winning you just think of it as telling people
00:06:50 the truth so these guys uh from a gang called lomas here in san diego uh my father found them and my
00:06:57 father was like that's the guys you know and my father pulled up he got out of the bat he hit one of
00:07:01 them broke the other guy's shoulder you know hit the other guy on the head so you know we got him
00:07:07 but then my father went back to his house and i had to go to school the next day
00:07:11 right so at 12 years of age you know i went to school and they were like bro that gang's gonna
00:07:16 kill you and there's no way you're gonna live through this right so another gang called east side
00:07:20 san diego here in san diego this is called sureño like southern mexican gangs they were like look if 0.98
00:07:25 you want to survive you join us we'll protect you you know so that's how i got it i mean was i wasn't
00:07:31 trying to be cool i wasn't trying to fit in i wasn't doing it for it was protection out i had to
00:07:35 their survival right so at 12 years of age i joined a gang and then you know in the gang world
00:07:41 you know especially if you can plan things well if you can do things you move up fast right so we
00:07:46 were all young guys uh you know east san diego is around 600 people strong gang uh still around i mean
00:07:54 i don't keep up with them uh but we got into a lot of stuff i mean we started dealing with the cartels
00:07:59 so you know tijuana's right next to us so we would go down to tj and meet with the cartel guys and
00:08:05 you know i don't want to get myself too much in trouble but right you know we got involved with
00:08:09 bringing drugs and distribution so you matured pretty quickly yeah yeah yeah you know it was a
00:08:14 it was rough um i had a lot of friends i had a very good friend of mine that i grew up with here
00:08:19 in hoover high school um this gang member from la came down so you know we were san diegans we
00:08:25 didn't like la la didn't like us so and he was you know he was alone so we're like let's go mess
00:08:30 with him you know so the guy started beating him up after school and i was like yeah he's just one
00:08:35 guy forget it you know so one of my friends started like really getting into with him so he started
00:08:40 running so my friend's name was diablo they called him diablo started chasing him and the guy turned
00:08:45 around just stuck him with a screwdriver in the chest and i remember you know watching them run the
00:08:51 guy running him and then i just remember like the guy turned and then i saw my friend just
00:08:54 drop and i ran up there um you know and um i picked him up and he was bleeding out you know
00:09:03 and uh he died right there in my arms so we pulled up and we saw these guys and we knew uh this
00:09:13 they're here and there's a guy especially we know who it is he was looking at us pulling into the park
00:09:18 right so we parked and he quickly ran to go tell them so he went in we did our what we do is we go to
00:09:23 our table we give our dawah we don't we don't go out there to try to you know have videos or content
00:09:28 we just give dawah we record it for the benefit of people so david wood came during the debate when
00:09:33 we pulled up it was all good right started debating during the debate i sent yusuf to go get some water
00:09:39 from the car when he went with some brothers there was a note that his people that were there stuffed
00:09:43 in the handle and this was there because when we got there it wasn't there so it was put in by the
00:09:47 people that were with him at that time what does it say in the note it said uh it's online but
00:09:53 she huthman uh and they misspelled my name uh stopped dawah and they misspelled it uh or i don't
00:10:01 know whatever some kind of threat and it was like we know your car we know your house you know and and
00:10:06 it was it was found while david was there so it's not like they can try to act like oh you know who put
00:10:11 it so we found it and we brought it and david even read it you know and i ripped it up and i threw it
00:10:16 and let him do whatever you want after that we got attacked at the park and it's on video by a guy
00:10:22 with a baton and a knife and you know i was giving dawah to these people who believe in a korean jesus
00:10:28 and this guy comes and he starts you know cursing islam making fun of allah making fun of the prayer 0.54
00:10:36 and stuff like this and this guy had been at the park before we knew who he was but you know he's
00:10:40 whatever he trying to get all crazy and i was giving the videos online by the way you can anybody can
00:10:45 watch it uh it was recorded because we were at the park and you know during the debate this guy's
00:10:51 you know yapping away over there and i'm trying to talk to this couple that believes in a korean jesus
00:10:56 that's all in korean jesus uh i don't know man i don't remember the last time koreans were in the
00:11:02 middle east you know i don't know how he became korean but you know i mean like obviously the prophet
00:11:08 jesus peace and blessings be upon me is from the quds you know from the area of uh palestine you
00:11:14 know currently uh may allah free it but um but i don't know how he returned as a korean man like i
00:11:21 don't know how that happened you know and he's just died he's already dead like i don't know what
00:11:24 happened the whole second coming and stuff that didn't come true but anyway so during this this guy's
00:11:30 yapping and then when i finished i went at him i ran at him i'm like hit me he's like i'm gonna
00:11:35 i'm gonna hit you like hit me i'm not scared of these guys i've been through wars i've been shot 0.92
00:11:41 at i've been you know attacked before and back in the old days and if i was willing to take that 0.98
00:11:45 risk for a gang a name why would i be afraid for the sake of allah for the truth i'm not scared of
00:11:51 these guys they can try they've tried all kinds of things this guy when i ran at him he runs away
00:11:56 i turn around you can watch the video right i turn around and he comes at me from the back when i
00:12:02 turn around he runs away again you know and the police was called and he was arrested 0.57
00:12:06 these guys are cowards you know look my friend that i grew up with 0.80
00:12:12 the the girl that called me another girl had called me so i went to go see the other one i gave this 0.99
00:12:20 number to one of my friends he went there and it was a setup for me they meant to kill me when he got
00:12:26 to the payphone and he made that call they people came out from every side they blasted them nine
00:12:31 shots including 357 to the head head blown off he died in my place that was supposed to be me
00:12:40 so you think these guys are going to scare me i've seen that i buried him and when i buried my friend 0.95
00:12:47 that day when i put him down in the ground and he was catholic he was not muslim 0.99
00:12:52 i saw in his face this fear and this was a brave guy and i realized that life is not about money and
00:13:00 fame because we had it i mean i don't make money off the house at that time we made money and we were
00:13:06 teenagers right so i mean we couldn't put it in a bank we just waste it so you know we had everything
00:13:13 none of the cool clothing because i grew up poor and i grew up struggling but at that time with all the
00:13:19 drug money and stuff we had money we had girls and you could you could go to school and just be like
00:13:24 her her you know like that's because you're up there people want that clout we had fame you know 1.00
00:13:29 i had a gang name i would walk into school you mentioned the name people know what it is
00:13:33 till today they're they're they're they're you know flicker pages and and twitter pages that talk
00:13:39 about what happened to and i'm not going to mention the name but you know what my old gang name was and
00:13:43 stuff so with all of that i saw him being buried he was 20 years old and i saw that nothing went in
00:13:52 the grave with him not his money not his fame not his girlfriends we had a 64 impala at the time we
00:13:59 had pooled our money had hydraulics and all that somebody else was driving his car every girl he had 0.97
00:14:05 mad girls like he had kids from all these girls every one of them was crying on some other guy's 1.00
00:14:10 shoulder she went to home with somebody else that night that day you know his brothers were fighting
00:14:16 over his clothes we had these jackets called ben davis's and like gangster thing at the time he's
00:14:20 like that's mine i'm like it's mine he had money you know we used to put on place in the house already
00:14:24 gone so i said you know what life has to have a purpose other than this this can't be it right and
00:14:32 when i when i brought that mindset i went on a journey to try to find the truth right even though i was
00:14:37 from a muslim household i didn't want to just be like okay islam because of that i studied i had
00:14:42 already studied the bible but i studied more i went to baptist churches i went to uh mormon temples i
00:14:48 went to kingdom halls i went to jewish you know bethel and i went to hindu play i went to harry
00:14:53 christian i went to everything and i tried to get the literature of every religion that i could
00:14:58 to study the truth and alhamdulillah alhamdulillah i thank allah subhanahu wa ta'ala that i i asked the
00:15:07 questions from every way nobody had answers except islam 1.00
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