SNEAKO - SNEAKO 4v1 COLLEGE DEBATE

00:00:00.000 do you think that your experience is the average experience or is it the survivorship bias and

00:00:04.920 you're a very like exceptional individual who's succeeded hard in this no i think i'm an average

00:00:10.200 kid i failed high school i didn't even get past it you know i mean like i'm um it's not even like

00:00:15.140 i'm like intelligent like majority of people if you made it past high school you're smarter than

00:00:19.780 me you know i mean that's that's how it is so i don't think it's uh it's anything crazy and even

00:00:24.560 then i make money doing stuff that i don't even like doing i don't have any interest in manufacturing

00:00:30.260 and supplying clothing but i want sneakers whole merch line i have no interest in doing that i

00:00:34.660 have no passion for for for fashion at all i've got no interest in it but i put the hours in because

00:00:40.160 i was willing to do the work for money right right but but even that even that having that ability to

00:00:44.440 turn off your brain say i don't care that i don't like this stuff i'm still gonna do it every day

00:00:47.920 and i'm gonna not everyone can that's why you got people who are engineers but that doesn't make it

00:00:51.880 impossible i'm not saying it's impossible i don't think it's impossible he's saying it's

00:00:55.760 impossible for people to get for anyone to get rich i don't really say that i don't think he said

00:01:00.660 that is that you said not everybody can get rich that's a lot different from the internet from

00:01:06.940 yeah yeah yeah you said from the internet right he said some people can yeah but not most people not

00:01:11.040 everyone can i i would i'm arguing that everyone can i think it's possible it's possible that everyone

00:01:17.300 can do so okay i mean it's just not true but i don't know i mean that's what that's the thing

00:01:23.800 it's like do you believe that your experience is literally the average because if that was the case

00:01:28.060 then why isn't like everybody that makes a youtube channel so successful why doesn't everyone

00:01:31.920 because a lot of people quit right now because they quit doesn't mean that they can't do it because

00:01:38.400 they definitely can but it just means that they specifically that person why did they quit

00:01:44.020 yeah why did they quit well it might not have what they initially entailed being a youtuber is a lot

00:01:49.640 more than just uploading videos you gotta be a video editor you gotta be charismatic and then you gotta

00:01:54.600 you know i mean then you gotta learn like algorithm stuff well not everyone can do that though

00:01:58.380 yeah everyone has the ability and everyone has the access to the ls at least everyone in the west

00:02:05.540 has access to the knowledge to be able to do that stuff right right not everyone has the

00:02:11.060 and this is where it comes into the individual person right not everyone has it within themselves

00:02:16.080 to can to go forward with all of that stuff i don't i'm not disagreeing with you i just think

00:02:21.120 a lot of us are built different so for example i know folks who couldn't make it as an infantry man

00:02:25.420 yes they don't have the mental attitude but these same people go on to be doctors they can go on to

00:02:30.080 be engineers they can go on to do different skills our brains are not all built the same not

00:02:33.880 everyone's capable of doing every kind of job in the world not everyone has the interest or the

00:02:38.800 passion for you described having an insane curiosity to put an insane amount of hours

00:02:44.340 into something and that's great i'm very happy for you not everyone has that kind of drive i know for me

00:02:50.120 i know for me i can't do school could i technically finish four years sure but it would be like suicide

00:03:00.260 for me okay even if you told me at the end of four years i'm going to get a 100 job making 300k a year

00:03:06.560 all this it would feel like i can't do it mentally you understand but i can spend days and days working

00:03:12.140 on an editing software to learn it all i'm trying to say is people are built differently the same way

00:03:16.840 you might not be able to go to school and handle all that stuff but you can do this editing stuff

00:03:21.320 not everyone can do what you do as well i agree but what i'm saying is that doesn't mean that

00:03:26.160 not everyone can do it because everyone can do it everyone has the ability to do so and everyone

00:03:31.160 has access to the resources to do so it's down to the individual but that doesn't make it that

00:03:36.640 doesn't make it correct i think the deciding factor is the type of information they hear and what they

00:03:40.680 believe in their mentality and dustin i want to ask you this question do you think it's better for

00:03:43.940 young men to follow your ideology or mine absolutely mine it's not even close young men why yeah

00:03:49.980 well can you state what your ideology is for young men and then sneakers so we all know what

00:03:57.160 you guys are fighting on college is a scam you should not be a slave you don't want to work a

00:04:01.780 job that's just brainwashing you want to be independent you want to do whatever you want

00:04:05.100 and you can do it if you offer a skill and you become valuable and you invest your money in the

00:04:10.300 right ways and it's very possible to do that it's the easiest time ever to get rich right now

00:04:14.020 and courses like the one i'm promoting like the creativity kit are much better than college which

00:04:18.780 costs 100 000 a year which destiny is telling you to go to um but you should try as hard as you

00:04:24.840 can through school this is the most reliable best way you can be successful with your life if you can

00:04:28.600 identify interests that you have early on or hobbies you have early on you should work those as

00:04:32.080 hard as you can if by the time you're 18 years old you don't see a clear path that you can take

00:04:36.880 where you can be an entrepreneur computer programmer or some shit like that if that path isn't obvious

00:04:40.620 to you at 18 then your best chance for success is probably to go to college figure out a major

00:04:44.500 that you want to do and then continue to work down that route uh that route i disagree

00:04:48.760 don't you think it's a good idea for people to take um so so there's the space between at least

00:04:54.600 in the uk is you finish like high school and then you have the option to go to university which is

00:04:59.480 college right that gap in between you don't have to take that step to college or university or whatever

00:05:04.120 don't you think it would be a better idea for those people that have just finished 18 19 years old

00:05:08.120 to take some time out and explore other business ventures that type of idea isn't that isn't pushed in

00:05:14.600 itself they don't push that idea a lot of people i tell them like look if you're around this age

00:05:19.320 take a gap year because if you don't what you're going to be doing you're going to be going to

00:05:22.680 university you're going to be studying for what four years five if you want to get a master's and stuff

00:05:27.080 like that by the time you come out you're what 23 24 years old you're on what 30k a year and then

00:05:32.440 after tax you're taking around maybe 24 like that's that's not good and then after that you then need five

00:05:37.400 years experience to start looking at maybe 60k a year and this is pounds by the way 60 000 pounds a year

00:05:42.440 pounds a year which is considered a high-end job but by the time you finish that you're what 29 28

00:05:48.440 like that's you need to be i don't know anything about the uk and i already know what you're saying

00:05:51.960 is not true you're telling me you have to be 29 28 years old on college jobs to earn 60 000 quid a

00:05:57.160 year no shot i don't believe well i can tell you i had family members that just got out of uft and

00:06:02.040 they're working at like 80 000 a year yeah there's no way that's true and then you end up with this

00:06:06.280 mentality like oh any 19 year old could make 100 000 pounds a year if they just like learn how to edit but

00:06:11.560 it's just like it's you don't see like how many thousands of editors artists youtuber wannabe

00:06:16.040 thousands millions of them that are online that just don't make it and it's not a matter of like

00:06:19.800 oh if they just grind it a little harder hustle harder it's just they don't have the personality

00:06:22.840 support they're not funny enough they didn't like whatever like it's stuff that they really

00:06:26.040 seriously mean that it's impossible like no one's talking about it being a bro life is about numbers

00:06:31.160 and stats and odds you have to get rid of this like binary like impossible impossible nobody thinks like 0.99

00:06:35.480 that it's like just not how the real world works but you said not everyone can do it everyone can do what i do

00:06:39.160 it's just some people would like some people individually might not have the mindset to

00:06:43.880 to go through with it right but if they don't have the mindset then they can't do what you do and you

00:06:48.520 can you can adopt that mindset you can change that yeah that's why i'm saying it's better for people

00:06:52.600 to follow for young men to follow my ideology than destiny's because if you don't think that you can

00:06:56.920 program your brain to get out of that mindset and to be independent then you're just going to be a

00:07:01.080 bot you're just going to be a wage slave for the rest of your life especially people like me i'm 19.

00:07:06.360 like my my like in the next two years three years every single one of my ideas can be completely

00:07:10.920 different you know i mean like because i'm changing so quickly i'm still young and stuff like that

00:07:15.480 it's not like uh oh if you're 18 19 years old you still don't know what to do and these are your

00:07:19.480 characteristics you're canceling out all of these different opportunities because of how you're

00:07:23.560 thinking at 18 years old that can't be right yeah nothing for that destiny i i i don't know what i can

00:07:32.040 say to i don't know what i can say to you guys like i mean like if you want to get into like a

00:07:36.520 data-driven argument like i i went on the data a million times over there's a reason why we said

00:07:40.360 about the mindset my my overall argument is you you're you're speaking and you're you're you sound

00:07:44.600 like a raving like feminist like you're giving ideas that i can't prove or disprove i can't say 1.00

00:07:48.520 anything like you're saying like this sounds so cool and like everybody can be the youtuber

00:07:51.880 okay let's look at the numbers does it happen nope you're wrong um anybody can drop out of high

00:07:55.240 school okay cool okay you're giving me a feelings over fact argument i can't argue with your feelings

00:08:03.480 if you want to have the feeling that everybody can be an editor that everybody can be successful

00:08:07.160 everybody can make a youtube that's great that you feel that way but at the end of the day

00:08:10.520 life is a game of numbers and you have to look at the probability of like what you can't you

00:08:15.480 every time i'm giving you an answer for anything okay if you want to go dig into the data if you want

00:08:19.400 to go and dig into the data you can look and see who are the most successful people in life

00:08:22.280 even when you talk about entrepreneurs or ceos like 90 of these people have college degrees it's

00:08:26.120 not an accident but you're looking at the three or four exceptions and like every brain-rotted american

00:08:30.280 that believes in this toxic idea of the american dream it's going to throw away every single thing

00:08:34.040 they could possibly even like all you're going to do is tell people to go for that like one in a

00:08:39.560 million shot it's just it's a super horrible ideology and i've seen so many people like fall to it

00:08:44.840 let me ask him something you're calling me the feminist you said toxic the idea with the premise of the 1.00

00:08:48.680 question was can you adopt a mindset to get out of the bot programming can you adopt a mindset true

00:08:54.200 or false uh you're gonna can you you can do anything that's not an interesting question

00:09:02.680 you can do anything anybody could be you could theoretically and it's theoretically possible

00:09:07.480 but it's not that's all right what i'm trying to i think a better way of presenting sneaker's um

00:09:13.160 argument is definitely saying like you're supposed to go against the odds the odds aren't in people that

00:09:18.520 that fails favor if you think about it realistically the people that get the reason they say c grade

00:09:23.480 students become ceos is because the a grade students will go through the system because they're getting

00:09:27.880 a's and the c grade students you got to think about it this way what are their options i failed

00:09:32.680 what are my options now i can't go through the system and get a good job i'm not really going to

00:09:37.000 be looking at getting a job anywhere that's going to pay me more than 20 30 000 pounds a year

00:09:40.840 ever am i like i'll be lucky if i can get 30 000 pounds a year because i'm never going to be able to get

00:09:44.360 a degree so we're looking 20 000 pounds a year job or i have to take a risk start a business and that's

00:09:50.840 my only way of making good money now so if i want to make more than six figures a year i have two

00:09:55.000 options start a business and take the risk and start hustling or make 20 000 pounds a year i don't

00:10:00.520 have the option to go and get a degree because i failed how many of the c grade students out of a

00:10:04.360 thousand become ceos well the ones that have the mentality will go and become ceos that's it yeah but how

00:10:10.040 many of them though like what is it do you know what it takes to become a ceo um well i have a

00:10:15.560 couple employees of myself chief executive officer of a corporate company with structure whatever but

00:10:22.120 i have i have a few employees i'm running i'm running things good right now but obviously do you consider

00:10:26.520 yourself a chief executive officer um i mean it's like you're you're going with the idea you're going

00:10:35.160 with you're going with such an idealistic mentality it's like okay so the c grade kids don't understand the 0.97

00:10:39.960 fucking craft too well they fucking failed out but hey maybe if they have the right mentality they 0.99

00:10:43.960 can be the ceos and all the fucking eighth grade students will just run into work for them that's 1.00

00:10:48.040 so fucking idealistic like we're trying to go for the actual average and stability over here okay like 0.99

00:10:53.240 you want to if you want to ask me what my mentality is my mentality is like listen play smarter don't 1.00

00:10:58.360 play dumb okay you have a set amount of time in your fucking life if you want to chase idealistic 1.00

00:11:03.400 shit go for it okay okay so 98 of that from a c grade student what's smart from what's smarter is 1.00

00:11:09.320 if you don't know what the fuck you're doing in life okay university schooling military a lot of 1.00

00:11:14.600 these like structured fields are not bad if you jump into them you get some level of structure then once 1.00

00:11:20.040 you have something to fall back on chase your fucking dreams okay if i didn't have shit to fall 0.98

00:11:24.600 back on do you think i'd be chasing after the businesses i have nowadays of course it's because i did 0.99

00:11:29.400 no no it's because i developed the funds through my actual career to chase the dreams that i have 0.97

00:11:35.160 you think i'd be pissing away fucking money doing anything nowadays fuck no that would be idealistic 0.98

00:11:40.200 as shit i had to grind in the system to make a fuck ton of cash then i could invest that i would never 0.99

00:11:45.560 ever tell anybody to do what i fucking did if they didn't have the education or the 0.99

00:11:49.320 shit to fall back on that's it that's all i'm gonna say now i would like to say i i actually agree with 0.98

00:11:53.480 that but i would i would say that most people in the west have the privilege of their parents to fall 0.99

00:11:58.600 back on if you don't then i agree get a regular job stack some bread most people don't though

00:12:06.040 let them finish let them go ahead most people in the west they do they have the privilege i have

00:12:10.360 the privilege okay worst case scenario i lose all my money and i'm back in my bedroom my parents are

00:12:16.280 paying the bills and they're feeding me and i'm and that's it you know i mean so so that's my worst

00:12:20.200 case scenario but most kids have this worst case scenario in the west that's not like they don't

00:12:24.360 it yeah um i don't entirely disagree with you i think it's very difficult um for a lot of people

00:12:31.240 to develop that kind of drive if they don't really have any kind of structure or struggle to really

00:12:37.480 push them forward you talk about them absolutely i don't disagree listen i can't tell you why

00:12:44.040 so any a lot of people are built was that so anyone can do it anyone can make money on them

00:12:48.840 you say that and and i hear what you're saying it sounds very great esoterically but for whatever

00:12:53.480 reason we find very different outcomes for a lot of people now you might say it's because they didn't

00:12:57.240 watch the right podcast or they don't have the right mentality and they can develop it i'm of the

00:13:01.560 mindset that some people can't develop certain skills i don't think that everyone can do everything i

00:13:05.560 just don't believe it maybe you guys feel differently and that's why probably where we're

00:13:08.600 going to diverge on the path but i would say that based off what you said which i think is very

00:13:13.720 reasonable if people do have a fallback plan take a risk i don't disagree with that so i

00:13:17.960 i think on that point alone i'm probably with sneaker news okay yeah so i i agree i'm with you

00:13:22.520 guys on that what do you think what do you think do you think it's better for young men to follow

00:13:26.200 destiny's philosophy or mine and moose's um i'm in between the both of you guys where i said i think

00:13:32.200 people should structure that's my my thing i don't think because i don't think it's a good idea

00:13:36.680 i don't think it's a good idea for people to just throw them actually let me rephrase i if you have

00:13:43.160 the innate thing in you where you desperately want to do this stuff and school's not calling out to you

00:13:47.640 if you want to go and take that risk that's fine go for it i would prefer that people take on

00:13:52.440 responsibilities be it like move out of your parents place start paying your own rent get yourself a job

00:13:57.160 learn what it is to actually be an adult be a grown-up don't move out but that's fine that's

00:14:02.760 fine i think i would i would agree with um musa here like if you have the opportunity to live with

00:14:07.800 your parents for some like indeterminate amount of time and like pursue like some online or whatever

00:14:11.960 yeah i mean if you got the opportunity go for it you gotta think my dad i tried to move out i tried to 0.96

00:14:16.760 move out my dad wouldn't let me he says it's stupid of you he says just stay home everything's done 0.93

00:14:21.080 for you here he says we do your cooking we do your cleaning we do everything for you like we take 0.99

00:14:24.440 care of you you got a place to stay you got a nice room you got a nice house you don't need to move

00:14:27.960 out stay here and stack your bread that's exactly what my dad told me when i tried to move out and

00:14:31.000 i was like you know what this guy's right because find me out now i have some sort of risk now i have to

00:14:35.640 do it but realistically i can go to zero tomorrow everything's fine that's how did you get in that

00:14:39.960 point how did you hold hold on i won't because they're coming out further and then you can get

00:14:43.880 for this what i was trying to get don't you feel like that's getting babied sorry me don't you feel

00:14:50.840 like that's kind of getting babied though if like your dad doesn't let you move out and like live 0.98

00:14:53.800 life a little bit like make some fuck-ups um no i i made my fair share of fuck-ups um but obviously 0.97

00:14:59.800 that comes with uh like it comes with different like every i still get i still get my freedom like 0.88

00:15:05.800 once a month i'll usually go to london for for like a week or so three or four days and just go and

00:15:11.080 get out there and do my stuff you see when you say like you see when you give that like that's just

00:15:16.520 such a privileged way of living man like you know i mean but if you have the opportunity to do that

00:15:23.880 i know that this is where i'm gonna break now jesus if you have the opportunity to live with your 0.87

00:15:28.520 parents you should take advantage of that for as long as possible there are a lot of people that are

00:15:32.600 18 19 is like i want to move away i want to go bro working at 16 17 18 sucks if you can stay with 0.73

00:15:37.960 your parents forever yeah if you can do that i would say i'd say stay with that forever you're 0.63

00:15:42.040 going to be like a kid you'll be a kid for longer but you're being a kid and having the

00:15:45.400 opportunity to explore that is based exactly so if you can do it stay at home and most people

00:15:49.880 in the west have this privilege that's not allied they don't most people in the west

00:15:52.840 definitely do and how do they spend it it's laying on their side watching netflix all day

00:15:56.440 wasting it away whenever they have free time they're going to work their little shoe job in the

00:15:59.640 town center and get paid minimum wage i think i think that's fine advice for some folks i think

00:16:04.280 people want to take on more responsibilities and discover themselves and one way they can do that

00:16:08.120 is move on on their own and take that on okay so i'm gonna give a i'm gonna give i'm gonna finish

00:16:12.280 i'm gonna finish my point i'm gonna finish my point my prescription to people in between sneaker and

00:16:16.360 destiny is just this if you're a young man and you feel lost in life go take on responsibilities be it

00:16:21.720 job volunteering whatever the it is and start to get to know yourself i think once you have difficult

00:16:26.680 situations that you have to constantly deal with you're going to get a better understanding of who

00:16:29.880 you are and what you want out of them so that's my prescription now go to school not chase your 0.99

00:16:34.520 dreams and be a youtuber whatever the fuck it is mine is go take on some responsibilities and figure 0.99

00:16:39.080 out what you want that's it my my thing where i disagree like heavily with destiny is like take 1.00

00:16:45.000 advantage of like your fucking you know your parents and living situation i kind of agree with 0.96

00:16:49.000 that i mean it's a safer option but like my dad good income everything's solid i could have lived with 0.98

00:16:54.440 my parents but the reality is like as soon as i hit like 16 17 i think this is where like the 0.81

00:16:59.400 mentality of the whole ceo shit changes right like you mentioned c grade students becoming ceo 0.85

00:17:04.040 highly disagree i think what really matters is like how much initiative each individual has right like 0.98

00:17:08.760 when i was 16 worked my ass off worked my never took a dime from my parents never took a dime from 0.83

00:17:14.440 anybody i everything that i ever had is built from my own like hands and that's it like it's those people

00:17:21.000 i'm not just fluffing myself i think it's you have to have that mentality in order to succeed 0.98

00:17:24.840 anywhere in fucking life whether you want to be a ceo or chase your fucking dreams right like it's 0.99

00:17:29.720 getting out of your fucking safety net and doing shit with your life that actually brings you to 1.00

00:17:34.120 like a level of success that you guys look up to or you guys keep preaching or like the idealistic 1.00

00:17:38.360 viewpoint you know like i'm sorry you have to fucking you have to pay your dues you have to give 1.00

00:17:42.920 your pound of flesh your killer of flesh if you will in order to fucking survive man it is what it is 1.00

00:17:47.000 i don't know destiny you want to respond to that well okay i disagree right okay like also another 0.99

00:17:52.600 thing too is like the same types of people that have that mentality and have that drive i hate to

00:17:57.160 say this but they are the people that can finish college like they're the type of people that are

00:18:01.160 going to be discouraged like oh i can't do college too hard like most people that have the drive to do

00:18:04.840 all that business have the drive to finish their degree yeah but i will say that it's not about

00:18:08.440 finishing college it's about realizing that it's a waste of time and it's a scam college doesn't

00:18:12.360 guarantee income but it doesn't stop what does waste of time mean because college guarantees

00:18:17.160 debt but it does not guarantee income the numbers disagree with your feelings i elite when you say

00:18:21.720 that can you please i want you to qualify that and go this is a feeling because you're wrong do you get

00:18:27.080 a job when you finish college because if you look at the data and you look at high school students

00:18:31.880 versus college students call no i hear what you're saying you're just telling me you're feeling i don't

00:18:35.800 care about it it's not a feeling it's not a feeling it's a feeling when you say college is a scam okay okay

00:18:40.040 okay everyone cool down what's your point just go for it

00:18:45.640 his point is about stats not agreeing with whatever sneaker's saying i will say that destiny in

00:18:50.200 like here in the uk after you finish university like i was saying if you don't have experience

00:18:53.800 and you're getting paid that 30k a year then after tax you're taking home what 2 400 like it's it's i

00:18:59.880 mean uh 24 000 a year like currently in the uk we have a uh cost of living crisis where people can't

00:19:06.680 afford their energy bills and stuff like that because the companies keep rising up

00:19:09.960 so these people that have gone to uh they've gone to university they've gone and gone and got a job

00:19:14.680 but because they don't have the experience to fit into the next tax bracket they now can't even afford

00:19:19.640 to have their heaters on this window and stuff like that like they kind of they can't afford these things

00:19:24.040 so they've gone to college they've been told they're going to get a job they've been told they're going

00:19:27.000 to get paid nicely they've been told they're going to do all these things if they get this degree and

00:19:29.560 all that stuff now they can't even afford to turn on the heat at this winter so it's stuff like and the

00:19:34.280 majority of people trying to be youtubers don't even have a house to turn the heat on in okay but that okay that's all

00:19:39.640 fun and dandy but that doesn't steer away from the fact that these people have gone through college

00:19:43.880 they've gone through university and they've they've not been able to to to live nicely you know what

00:19:48.040 i mean so what i'm saying is that sneaker's point of saying like college is a scam there's an essence

00:19:53.400 of truth to it not is it a scam because there's not a hundred percent success rate because there's

00:19:57.960 not a hundred percent success rate in being a youtuber either i agree i agree i agree but what i'm

00:20:04.120 saying is it doesn't mean that not everyone can do it because everyone can do it in both fields

00:20:11.160 and overall i mean youtube tutorials are free the creativity kit is 50 a month there's like 1.6

00:20:15.880 million trillion u.s college debt now they have to give forgiveness now so yeah there's an essence

00:20:21.000 of truth to that as well you know i mean like like they're both right but in my opinion if you're way

00:20:24.920 up the two obviously it's a little bit biased like literally congress college university but at the same

00:20:29.720 time like i would rather not take on the debt and take that risk and work for myself not everyone has

00:20:35.800 it within themselves and they don't have the mentality for it and i understand it but at the

00:20:39.640 same time like if i have i still have to take that risk of going to university finishing with all these

00:20:45.080 degrees and all these things and then get a job and then i still can't afford to live and i have to go

00:20:49.000 through that cost of living crisis that sucks man i'm not gonna lie i would feel like i've been lied to 0.51

00:20:54.120 okay so i'm curious i got a million people listening right now they're ready to do whatever you say

00:20:58.680 what would you tell them to do right now in order to start making well first of all i would say find

00:21:05.800 a level of foundation like we were talking about initially if you have your parents 0.98

00:21:09.560 shit to fall back on like majority of people do in the west right then start taking risks i would 0.97

00:21:14.040 say personally start start learning how to build websites because e-commerce isn't going anywhere 0.99

00:21:19.320 secondly i would say um if you have any type of passions pursue them and find a way to monetize

00:21:24.280 them typically you can do that through tick tock right um but yeah that's that's that's what i

00:21:29.800 would tell them so have passions then monetize them through like social medias yes i would also

00:21:34.760 say an important factor is building case studies is the new degree the same way you would go to college

00:21:40.360 and get a degree is building case studies is the equivalent of that for for getting jobs online for

00:21:44.920 making money online so for me obviously i have run up sneaker's tick tock page um i've done like 110

00:21:51.240 million views in 28 days on one page right that is a that's an insane stat to bring to the table any

00:21:58.360 agency is going to want to hire you for that right so that's a case study in itself so because of that

00:22:03.240 fact alone and even my friend who ran up his tick tock page his nico from zero to 100 000 followers in

00:22:08.120 four days just for for having that in his locker alone people will want to hire him that's a degree now

00:22:13.800 that's better than the same way better the same way arguably yeah because the the average uk um earner

00:22:19.880 i'm pretty sure earns 1700 pounds a month right and my friend now he ran up that page he earns 2500

00:22:26.680 pounds a month from me yeah i mean so that's what i'm saying so he gets paid more than the average

00:22:31.160 he he didn't even finish high school evil you know i mean so that's what i'm saying and and i only

00:22:36.360 hired him for the pure reason of his case study right or you can watch destiny stream all day and go clean 1.00

00:22:40.840 carpets or you can watch sneaker stream all day you know spend 300 because you're too stupid to 0.98

00:22:47.080 learn how to pirate adobe premiere whatever uh learn how to edit a few shitty videos throw them 0.99

00:22:51.400 up on tick tock get 45 views a video wonder why it's not happening get one sneaker clip that blows

00:22:55.480 up get 50 000 views do nothing waste three years and then finally get to go back to school and get

00:22:59.320 a normal job the people who gave up the people in your chat who want to give up on that we're

00:23:01.880 talking these are the people that by the way sneaker literally admitted that most of his

00:23:05.080 audience will be losers most people aren't going to succeed and they're not going to keep watching

00:23:08.120 once they lose they're going to go to destiny stream the winners are going to stay here i'm

00:23:11.400 going to go listen to you cope all day okay destiny i'm going to disagree as well with when it comes to

00:23:16.040 the fact that youtube i know loads of people that um obviously i understand not like everyone not

00:23:22.280 everyone has the mentality to do this but everyone has the ability to do this right i know loads of

00:23:27.560 people that started off their channel by for the first year of their thing was just experimenting

00:23:33.480 uploading videos and stuff like that then during that process learning about the algorithm and then

00:23:37.960 blowing up from there one of my clients i help manage is a razhd on youtube he's a fifa youtuber

00:23:44.360 and i picked him up last year he had 3 000 subscribers i've still got the dms i told him look i know about

00:23:48.600 the algorithm i need to build a case study um let me help you with your channel and all this stuff so

00:23:52.680 we went through this whole process i went and in three months we took his channel from 3 000 subscribers

00:23:58.440 to 100 000 subscribers now yeah now he's got 200 000 subscribers he gets around 100 000 subscribers a

00:24:03.640 video and his channel's just blown up and now now he makes like over 10k a month like every month so

00:24:09.240 you know what i mean like these people like if you really come at it from a from a strategical

00:24:13.080 point of view which anyone can learn because i learned all my algorithmic knowledge online i

00:24:16.600 didn't pay for anything i learned it all from youtube and it all from um you know i mean personal

00:24:20.600 experience stuff like that and look what i did for the guy now obviously i get percentage i'm managing

00:24:24.760 him and stuff like that it's a win-win so there's a lot that goes into it i even know people

00:24:28.200 what's the name of the guy uh razhd there's even people like mcburkin if you know about

00:24:34.680 he makes fifa videos gaming videos personality webcams i want to say i want to say i'm i'm

00:24:41.320 incredibly fascinated by how people research success and what it takes to kind of get there

00:24:45.160 and in me listening to you i can tell that you really care about the intricacies of how these

00:24:50.360 things work like when you look at algorithms when you look at social media platforms for you you're not 0.97

00:24:55.080 just looking at it as like oh people upload shit you look at it and you think all right why did this 0.67

00:25:00.520 video blow up what was it about the thumbnail what was it about the video what was it like you have 0.98

00:25:04.520 that kind of analytical mind am i correct in saying that yeah yes okay this is something that i've found

00:25:09.880 to be true and i think it's like the biggest differentiating factor between people who are

00:25:13.240 successful and all this stuff not iq not any of this stuff it's like a general innate curiosity

00:25:18.440 for how the thing functions and how to exploit it as best as possible so even when i listen to mr

00:25:23.320 beast talk about shit right what i hear him talk about all day long is like how do you game the 0.88

00:25:28.200 algorithm how do we make the best on all this stuff you have that same you understand that not 0.99

00:25:32.040 everyone has that built in them it's not a mindset you can adopt curiosity is not something you can

00:25:36.680 just inherit that you have to really have it and i've noticed this too people are only curious

00:25:41.480 generally or jet about things that they actually are interested in that's most folks i know so i know

00:25:47.160 guys who are as autistic as you when it comes to music or dancing or basketball or whatever i have

00:25:54.440 a rebuttal i have a friend who has a clothing brand now he has no interest in in marketing has no

00:26:01.000 interest in in business or any of these things he just has like um he just likes clothes and stuff

00:26:06.120 like that and he likes anime he started printing anime designs on clothes doing his own drawings

00:26:10.200 printing on clothes and stuff like that and then um he put it together and now obviously he i told him

00:26:16.520 like look this i know about the tick tock algorithm you start pushing stuff on tick tock he doesn't

00:26:20.520 even like tick tock he doesn't like posting it he doesn't like doing any of that stuff he just does

00:26:23.960 it because it's part of his business and right this is what most people have to do when it comes

00:26:27.320 down to business and making money the hard work aspect is there's an there's always a point of

00:26:31.480 it where you do you don't want to do you know i mean and sure that comes that comes with most

00:26:35.560 stuff in life that comes with most jobs which is why you normally hire people that's why most people

00:26:40.280 hire others like i don't know what i'm saying is this guy he doesn't have any type of passion for

00:26:45.240 algorithms or anything like that but still he's done all free promo he hasn't paid a single paid

00:26:49.800 for a single ad he turns over tens of thousands of pounds he's 18 years old and he does every he has

00:26:55.320 his own office space and all this stuff now and you know i mean he doesn't have any passion for any

00:26:58.680 of this algorithm stuff like you can still do whatever like you can anyone anyone really can make

00:27:04.280 money online okay i'm not mad at that i think he's i don't think he's moose is living proof of that

00:27:09.480 and proof of that even if you don't fail if you fail in school if you don't want to be a matrix

00:27:14.520 slave that you could still go get it and you don't have to have clout this is gen z talking 0.96

00:27:18.760 this is gen z talking and this is why people like moose will watch my shit and this is why i like 0.89

00:27:22.280 the people who give up like end up to like lots of hobbies content and then end up like people who 0.91

00:27:26.760 gave up on their dreams that are watching destiny's content like that's it that's just the difference

00:27:30.360 man actually we did we did a poll i asked my whole chat said one they would rather lead destiny

00:27:35.960 channel said two they would rather follow and we also admitted that everybody would rather

00:27:40.600 lead so if they want to give up fine but i want to have winners watching my 0.99

00:27:44.200 shit 0.98

00:27:46.840 okay all right this is a whole different topic it's the philosophy behind it it's ambition 0.98

00:27:52.280 versus complacency and destiny is going to keep saying that it's facts over feelings i don't know

00:27:55.880 what it is like a mindset is not a feeling it's something you can put you can put your mind to

00:28:01.000 anything it's it's not a feeling it's what you need in order to be rich now i'm i'm out guys

00:28:06.280 on later on we're going to talk about that one of the rich guys i know he's 22.

00:28:08.840 too gen z i want to change that mindset so that a lot of people can get out of this

00:28:13.640 no yeah well listen musa i thought a lot of the stuff that you said was really interesting

00:28:16.840 insightful in regards to algorithms and yeah that's really cool um sneego what do you think

00:28:21.640 when you hear somebody who's like i'm fine with um being a follower like i don't know i don't like

00:28:26.600 leading it's not my thing what do you say to those people okay go ahead but we know what the

00:28:30.760 number one coveted job in america is when you ask a kid who's now five years old what they wanted

00:28:34.520 to they wanted to be astronauts they wanted to be nba players they wanted to be superstars they wanted to be

00:28:38.040 the best nobody wants nobody you don't ask a kid what do you want to do this i want to clean carpets

00:28:42.360 they want to be the saxophone player that's what they want to do so i'm saying feed that whatever

00:28:46.920 feed that that that kid that little kid that inspired you with all those dreams but you have

00:28:53.160 to follow that and don't give that up because i'm tired of seeing people give that up because

00:28:56.680 you know what you wanted to do when you were by everything i do all the decisions i do i am living for

00:29:02.040 that kid like that was 12 that was sitting in class that didn't want to be there that felt like

00:29:06.120 this was a waste of time everything i do is to make that kid happy right i'm just curious i'm just

00:29:14.760 curious go ahead because i i'm interested to to people who are that like i know some folks who work

00:29:21.640 at an ad agency they make 60k a year they're good with that like for them they go they go on a trip

00:29:26.280 once or twice a year and they go with their life they're happy they get to see their family every

00:29:29.320 christmas all that stuff what do you say to those people who are good with that do you think there's

00:29:31.960 something wrong with what they're doing no there's nothing wrong with that okay so do you so can you

00:29:36.840 acknowledge that there's a lot of people who may fit into that you can still be a happy person but

00:29:45.080 when i hear you say oh these people are slaves all these people are just bots and all this other

00:29:50.760 stuff do not understand that people who just want to live a regular life and not think about

00:29:54.840 being an entrepreneur and stressing about algorithms and doing all this stuff and they just want

00:29:58.440 a sense of security like whenever you talk it almost makes it sound like these people are

00:30:02.840 subhuman there's something wrong with their brains yeah he's got a point i'm not gonna lie like i know 0.99

00:30:08.600 okay it can hurt people's feelings but i think some people it's not about hurting feelings no no

00:30:15.240 it's not about that look like um one of the people that works for me right one of the one of the guys i

00:30:19.960 have hired he doesn't want to like he doesn't ever plan on like obviously i have my own agency in terms of

00:30:25.480 editing and stuff like that he doesn't want to do that like he doesn't have any interest in becoming

00:30:29.400 the head of it he's just happy like all right what i gotta do today all right i gotta edit what

00:30:33.320 eight tick tocks um i gotta run the i gotta upload them onto this page you gotta upload them on youtube

00:30:38.360 i earn three and a half thousand pounds a year i'm a a month i'm happy with that and he doesn't he's

00:30:42.760 just complacent he's happy with all that stuff and he doesn't really have any interest in becoming

00:30:45.640 a business owner my brother's one of those people my brother's happy to just go and become like a

00:30:50.040 carpenter or whatever and then come home play valorant and he's happy with that type of life

00:30:53.480 i just want to ask you let me let me answer that because i i see what you're i see what you're saying

00:30:57.880 and it it does hurt a lot of people hear that like the subhuman thing when i call people bots npcs it

00:31:02.840 does hurt because deep down people do have a sense of regret that that happened and then someone that

00:31:07.560 i'm really grateful for that gave me the privilege to be where i'm at is my father my father had the

00:31:11.960 exact same dream as mine we went to the same school he graduated i didn't we were both uh film

00:31:16.680 school all these photos i have around here are photographs of my dad he took these pictures

00:31:21.320 but he gave up on his dream to raise his kids and to have a comfortable life and raise a family he

00:31:27.800 fully dedicated into into raising his family and that's a decision that he made and i would not be

00:31:33.240 able to be in this position if he didn't make that decision i look up to him for that but still i see

00:31:39.800 there's there's a regret that he has that i that scared the shit out of me since i was a little kid 0.78

00:31:45.080 and even though he lives a happy life he loves his kids he lives vicariously through me he still

00:31:51.960 wishes that he could have been that artist that the six-year-old version of him wanted to be and

00:31:57.000 that's what i'm talking about so even he's going to watch this and it's going to make him think

00:32:01.240 but that is that's always been my biggest fear so it's not that i'm trying to like make people subhuman

00:32:06.440 but i think people need to hear someone like me call you a bot if you give up on life or else you're

00:32:11.480 not going to you're going to hear destiny and say well yeah i'll clean carpets and be happy yeah

00:32:15.080 you'll be you'll be fine but you won't live life to the fullest and i think the worst way to live

00:32:20.040 is to have regret do you think your dad is unhappy no he's a happy guy he's and the reason he gets

00:32:26.120 happiness is seeing me succeed he lives vicariously through me so me right seeing his his seed the

00:32:30.760 one that he's like invested everything his eldest son seeing his eldest son succeed and fully uh pursue

00:32:37.080 his passions as an artist and do chase my dreams and everything he knows that the sacrifice he made

00:32:43.000 is the reason that i'm able to do this right but okay so two-part question so if you or dad would

00:32:48.680 have seen you have a really good job right make an 80k year got a girlfriend stability all this stuff

00:32:54.520 do you think he'd be any other unhappy do you think he'd be more sad no he wouldn't it's not it's

00:33:01.000 not even happy or sad it's it's just fine he'd be fine he'd be like he'd be he'd be okay that i'm

00:33:06.360 safe that i have a comfortable job it would be fine but i want exceptional that i'm ambitious i

00:33:12.200 want everybody in my chat to not let go of that ambition that you have inside of you young men

00:33:16.840 are ambitious by nature we want to conquer we want to go get it and then everything we hear in life

00:33:21.800 is to get rid of that and i hate that mentality

00:33:27.800 okay uh moose i was going to ask you about your employee earlier that you mentioned

00:33:32.680 when you see your employee um how good is he a really good employee the one that you mentioned

00:33:36.920 earlier yeah he's awesome right and it helps your machine and your cog work really well right yeah

00:33:44.360 would you say that people like that are absolutely necessary for bigger empires to grow

00:33:48.520 is there a good point yeah yeah i think that not everyone is basically trying to say a relationship

00:33:59.640 yeah yeah what you're saying is not everyone has to like if everyone was a leader like you're trying to

00:34:03.880 uh nobody with people to be then nobody would be no that's true so no no at the same time obviously

00:34:09.640 it's a good idea to because it doesn't really matter how many people sneaker tries to push this uh 0.64

00:34:14.920 progressive mentality onto first of all not everyone's gonna adopt it second of all he's

00:34:19.400 never gonna like reach everyone so it's good to push it in my opinion i think it's good for more

00:34:24.280 people to become leaders why the truth is there's always somewhere in the middle but the truth is

00:34:29.160 probably where you're at i'm an extreme destiny is an extreme and we need each other so that some

00:34:33.960 people hear my message some people hear his it's necessary the reason why i say this is even within a

00:34:38.680 military you can't have everyone be a sergeant you gotta have corporates you gotta have soldiers

00:34:42.840 privates and you gotta have people who are officers right of course and if you have the

00:34:46.040 aptitudes and you take the extra work then you get to move up in the ranks and take on more

00:34:49.640 responsibility my point being is that the machine itself does not work without everyone not playing

00:34:54.280 the role and so my prescription is not that people shouldn't move up laterally if you're ambitious and

00:34:59.480 you have dreams you shouldn't chase it that's not that my whole thing is understand that everyone

00:35:03.560 gonna have the role to play and we don't have to denigrate it or make it sound like it's a garbage

00:35:07.560 role or we have to treat people terribly or even that stuff i think a lot of people who go every day to

00:35:12.200 their job do it exceptionally well and make sure the machine works well are absolutely pivotal and to

00:35:17.560 be respected maybe it's me being a bot or whatever but i don't know it's like sneaker i respect what you

00:35:25.080 do and i love what you do and that's great i also look at my mom who works with a nine to five doing

00:35:29.320 housekeeping and i respect her dedication to doing that consistently the kind of discipline that she has

00:35:34.200 and so my thing is you might value one more than the other but i just i don't think i do and i don't

00:35:39.320 want to walk through life thinking like oh you you took housekeeping you're a bot and a loser it's

00:35:44.040 like no some people just want to live things simpler and i respect them for it if they're good with

00:35:48.120 that i agree but i think people i kind of i i look at i do look a little bit differently at people that

00:35:54.440 can afford to take that risk and still don't i'm not gonna lie like i i kind of like i don't obviously

00:35:59.560 it's not that deep really it's not like a big deal but at the same time i'm like you can flourish so much

00:36:04.520 more than you already are you know i mean and and they're just not willing to to make that leap

00:36:08.840 like people like my brother for example i always bang on to him so much like we could be making so

00:36:12.920 much money man if this guy was just so just a bit more driven but but do you understand not

00:36:17.560 do you understand that if not everything is about more more more and sneakily you're going to agree

00:36:23.720 with this in the sense we listen to a lot of patrice patrice always talks about the fact that

00:36:28.680 there were times in his career where he could have said one thing or done something for somebody else or

00:36:33.240 bit his tongue at certain points and his career and his wealth would have grown exponentially but

00:36:38.040 what would make him happier at the end of the day was saying true to whatever message that he had

00:36:43.320 and whatever his health side of truth was yeah and saying i'm gonna just stick with this and it cost

00:36:47.080 more on the other side see see you have its sacrifices he was choosing to be more funny

00:36:51.880 like right now when uh destiny says i'm i'm cooking for islam because i don't want to make jokes

00:36:56.520 about it it's like i i need to set a limit to how much funny i want to seek i don't want to die

00:37:01.640 i don't want to get murdered so there you go there's limits on both sides there's limits how

00:37:05.320 much money you want to chase and also limits to how much you want to chase your your art in the

00:37:09.400 message in the meeting you make decisions but more more often than not patrice was an outlier patrice

00:37:13.640 is known as the funniest of all time because he never set that limit he kept going he kept going

00:37:18.120 and now he's revered as the best stand-up comedian of all time but more often than not most people will

00:37:22.200 choose to just get a comfortable job instead of being the funniest of all time patrick o'neill patrice

00:37:27.800 the best stand-up comedian of all time i've never seen this dude before i don't know if

00:37:33.480 do people really say that yes a lot of comedians do and he's revered but you know it's he's not

00:37:39.000 unanimously but there's some people who feel that way even chappelle would say that i think

00:37:43.000 uh i don't think he would say that i don't think he would but he was well respected and well-liked

00:37:47.720 i would say if you guys are always talking about you guys can do more you can do more but at the same

00:37:52.280 time you sneak will also acknowledge that there's things that you're not willing to do to get ahead or to do

00:37:57.080 stuff i feel like a lot of regular folks feel the same way they're like listen i don't want to start

00:38:00.920 up a tick-tock camp i don't want to do this because it's just labor i hate tick-tock i don't want to

00:38:05.320 spend any time in that same token sneaker you don't want to stop saying certain things that will hold

00:38:10.920 you back because you want to be able to say what you want we all make choices in life to maintain

00:38:18.280 certain aspects of ourselves because we don't even though it might help us to grow to do those things

00:38:22.920 we decide not to do that i don't think it's necessarily a wrong thing to do that the same

00:38:26.280 way i don't want to listen maybe i should start tick-tock tomorrow it would probably be beneficial

00:38:30.200 my time i just don't care for the platform that deeply everyone makes those choices what's wrong

00:38:34.680 with me what's wrong with that i don't have tick-tock i don't i don't like the platform either but i

00:38:38.760 understand its value and we're utilizing it properly instead of scrolling all day and becoming

00:38:43.480 getting dumber on it and just watching she was consuming it there's ways to profit off of it 1.00

00:38:47.400 that's all i'm saying you you think tick-tock is bad tick-tock is this chinese chinese brainwashing 0.99

00:38:54.760 all right whoa it's really bad we're bringing this back wait wait also tick-tock is terrible terrible

00:39:00.840 for people but you guys are actively like trying to make viral content people are addicted to it so

00:39:06.040 we're utilizing it to our advantage but most of the content on there is brainwashing making 0.97

00:39:10.120 making people dumber and it's ccp programming to make us believe in a bunch of bullshit so that we get weaker 0.97

00:39:14.840 it ain't going anywhere so you might as well utilize it whilst it's here that's what exactly 0.99

00:39:20.920 you got to understand the market ah maybe that just sounded crazy to me it sounded like you guys

00:39:26.280 know it's bad for people so you're like it i'm i'm also going to get them yeah but at the same time

00:39:30.440 i will you also got a thing that okay yeah it's bad isn't that kind of unprincipled am i crazy for

00:39:35.800 saying that no isn't that being part of the matrix yeah because you're plugging them deeper into the

00:39:43.240 aren't you plugging them deeper into the chinese matrix by doing that no but the content of of

00:39:50.040 what he's talking about is helping people plug out he's he's anti the content is better that his

00:39:55.320 content gets pushed than a cp much better he's like he's like morbius bro he goes into the matrix 0.52

00:40:01.240 should dig you out that's what he's saying that's what andrew tate told me he said if i'm morpheus you

00:40:07.320 could be neo that's actually a really good impersonation that's one of the few impersonations

00:40:13.400 i do i do get it bro my preachy my preach impression was perfect i was dead on i'm going

00:40:16.920 to romanian tomorrow to meet up with the tates that's dope man i hope you enjoy it out there

00:40:21.080 yeah destiny wants to get out of here and play factorio he's tired of this conversation

00:40:25.960 i mean for destiny it's just free content this is going to be a two-hour debate he speaks for

00:40:29.480 50 minutes of it and he's good it's cheddar but that's true i'm gonna have to rewatch this whole

00:40:33.560 thing tomorrow morning yeah well listen it was cool i actually learned some stuff from you guys so

00:40:39.160 talk i'm gonna i'm gonna let destiny uh play factorio and read twitch drama for seven hours

00:40:45.160 how are things going how you doing i'm doing good i'm doing good i'm doing good

00:40:47.880 all right cool can we just chit chat for a while do we have to yell all the time man

00:40:50.520 no you're good i like chit-chatting what's up chat you know what i like i like coming on here because i

00:40:55.480 i've what i've understood by uh abba's questions is that destiny and i are two extremes on both

00:40:59.800 sides and it's the truth is always somewhere in the middle so it's good for us to have these debates

00:41:04.040 so people could come and think for themselves like i understand that i'm an extreme

00:41:07.560 i don't think destiny thinks he's extreme now i think he thinks he's right no no destiny's

00:41:11.480 definitely sure he's a pro-government pro-establishment i think you would acknowledge 0.99

00:41:15.000 that no oh man no i don't think i'm an extreme no i knew it man what you dick riding the government's 0.94

00:41:22.120 so hard right now hold up hold on destiny you say that a lot of people are anti-establishment and 0.98

00:41:27.320 you're very pro-establishment wouldn't that make you on that spectrum extreme what i think most people

00:41:31.960 are probably like uh like whatever is it ambivalent or is that negative um indifferent yeah i would say

00:41:39.640 people mostly like ambivalent yeah but that's not you you're you're pro-establishment

00:41:43.480 i mean i think there's difference we're not going out there sucking off the no no he is 0.99

00:41:48.040 because i'm fighting dick right now no no yeah he is he does do that no i don't actually do that i 0.99

00:41:53.240 just push back against people that are like trying to say that like everything is rigged and everything 0.98

00:41:56.840 is fucked and okay i thought you were an extreme pro-establishment person this is actually different 0.93

00:42:02.440 too i mean it's like what do you mean like pro-establishment like what do you mean like pro-establishment 0.99

00:42:09.160 like i just generally like this guy just said the elections are rigged like that's usually what i'm

00:42:12.360 pushing back again see like for me it's like i look at the government that we have because i don't

00:42:16.200 want the channels to get straight because like the government that we have you have to understand like 0.86

00:42:19.960 we're not some fucking crazy north korean government or this is not like some fucking like we're not in 0.96

00:42:25.800 that stage government is still made up of people if you're like i still believe that we have just you 0.97

00:42:31.320 know a degree of control amongst ourselves you know right we still have autonomy in our system we

00:42:35.480 still have people who like collectively come together oh yeah that is trump part of the matrix right

00:42:39.880 right yo musa i'm gonna ask you man now that you're making this cheddar like you're not telling

00:42:44.840 people you make this kind of pardon no you're not telling people we're very open about our income

00:42:51.720 hold on you just walking around these london streets telling people how much money you make every

00:42:55.640 month i carry no cash i mean it don't matter if people know you got money yeah bro don't break your 0.99

00:43:00.520 fucking hands and get you to wire transfer they don't give a fuck i don't want no road man to 1.00

00:43:05.560 run up on you you feel me he's in nottingham he's not in london yeah i'm not even from london okay 1.00

00:43:10.680 that's good that's good just be careful out there especially when you're just out here taking public

00:43:14.520 transport and i don't know if you still do that bro you can't concealed carry out in the

00:43:19.960 yeah i appreciate the concern can you summarize that mischief call i wanted to tune in but i your

00:43:24.520 reddit was just memeing about how many people were watching it what was the summary of that phone call

00:43:28.360 you want me to summarize the three and a half hour call no i can't do that five sentences go there's

00:43:34.920 like a huge drama over whether or not some guy that sexually harassed another girl that was sleeping

00:43:39.640 was being covered up for by like the people that own a team that was miskipping them that was like

00:43:43.640 what everything was going over and they were trying to figure out so who's the bad guy i it's complicated

00:43:48.360 man i'm not gonna just give you one so it doesn't even matter damn you pulled in 58k live viewers for 0.53

00:43:52.040 it's complicated yeah that's why people watch me because they wanted to see the full breakdown of the

00:43:57.000 it's complicated true i destiny what do you think about like um all these liberal streamers doing

00:44:02.520 everything that they promote not doing behind the scenes um it's pretty bad but i mean all of you

00:44:08.680 guys like do the same all these red pill people like sit here and talk about how horrible and 0.51

00:44:12.280 porn is and like andrew tate made his money like selling camp girls online so i mean like everybody's

00:44:16.440 full of at the end of the day at least i'm honest you understand the market same thing we understand

00:44:19.560 tick tock's bad but you got to utilize it because you know people are going to seek it out anyway

00:44:22.280 it's like i do blame the crack dealer for the for the drug epidemic or is it reagan's fault sure but

00:44:27.240 like look at what you're saying at one end of the other right you're trying to say that everybody

00:44:29.960 should be their own individual they should all accomplish exactly what they want to do don't

00:44:32.520 go to school don't be a cog in the system and now you're telling me how do i make money well i

00:44:35.640 literally am the system like what is it at the end of the day everybody's getting high on their own

00:44:39.480 like i mean no that's not what i'm saying i'm not saying there's one way to make money here you go

00:44:45.880 here's an opportunity but it doesn't revolve around me but that's no but i say like you're

00:44:49.960 like saying like school is a scam i'm going to teach you how to get rich and how you get

00:44:52.680 rich is by starting a school that's essentially what you're doing no no i i've made like that's

00:44:57.160 maybe one fourth of my income most of it is google adsense

00:45:01.880 yeah i think i want to deal crack now go ahead base crack deal i do math dude i'm going to

00:45:07.720 definitely hit up uh i'm definitely hitting up uh sneeko and and moose after this we're we're

00:45:11.640 going to get caught you don't know what we do out in the streets hey listen i got serious around

00:45:15.880 here i did not i would say no destiny i would say that i agree with what you said about tate in the

00:45:21.080 sense that um yeah he was he obviously he says anti-porn and stuff like that and then promoted it

00:45:26.760 essentially made a business out of it now i would say it's different in the sense that when sneeko was

00:45:31.640 pushing his stuff through tiktok it's different because he's pushing a positive message that's better

00:45:35.560 than cp fact right cc but i would say that um obviously take stuff like he wasn't

00:45:41.480 doing any good when he was uh obviously doing his cam go business like that's just a fact like

00:45:47.080 that's kind of right on that one he's it that's a contradictory statement bro you don't you don't

00:45:50.760 know what they do behind the scenes you know they donate a lot of money they have a lot of charities

00:45:54.200 they donate to the church stuff like that something that doesn't something they don't talk about

00:45:57.240 you know bro drug bosses donate money to charity too does that make them good now dude i don't think

00:46:02.440 i don't think drugs are bad people but it doesn't stop anything like it doesn't change the fact on

00:46:06.600 what they did like that's really good that's amazing i i don't care though that's different

00:46:10.840 because that's not what we're talking about what we're talking about is the fact that there's

00:46:13.960 there's a there's a clear contradiction there they say they're anti-porn and then they made

00:46:18.360 money from a porn industry and that's not a contradiction that's not a you don't get high

00:46:21.480 in your own supply drug dealers don't do coke destiny do you think that drug lords are bad people i

00:46:25.560 don't think so uh yeah yeah of course they're bad people ah but you think drug do you think um el

00:46:31.800 chop was a bad person yeah selling poison by the killer is a bad thing murdering indiscriminately

00:46:37.240 owned citizens not giving this friendly fire none of that yeah terrible friendly fire bad yeah

00:46:42.360 but overall like people people go from being broke to be becoming millionaires selling

00:46:47.000 drugs are they bad people yes absolutely you're also destroying your communities like

00:46:53.720 if we're being honest these people when they're gone addicts and families they're not good people

00:46:59.080 if you make content sneeko that ruined families all across america right had people becoming either

00:47:05.080 dying or robbing their friends and family just to be able to you don't think i would think you're a

00:47:10.040 terrible person absolutely okay so why don't you blame reagan for importing all the drugs or the 1.00

00:47:15.320 government for hey it's a reagan dead if he's dead they dance on his grave i don't look i can i can say

00:47:21.560 right that i think that obviously the the mafia level drug dealers like they're like yeah yeah that you

00:47:27.080 you're not they can't be that good of a person um but i would say that obviously um i would say that 0.93

00:47:33.160 where i'm from obviously that he's saying obviously fuck but where i'm from it's not the greatest area 0.98

00:47:40.040 so i've seen people that i went to school with obviously i've seen the ever the innocence in them 0.96

00:47:45.080 and i've seen them go from like these people they don't have a lot of money like that their parents

00:47:49.000 are literally selling on sunday markets and stuff like that going to the market to make a living so yeah

00:47:53.880 so these kids are my age they have to otherwise they're not you want to know do you want to know

00:47:57.240 the reality to that is they're part of a transnational criminal enterprise and they're just as guilty

00:48:02.600 as the people that are running it so yes they are in fact criminals and they shouldn't be

00:48:09.880 my friend like that that was personally that's my friend he's my longest lasting friend ever dying like

00:48:15.480 loyalty to the end with him right he had to come to my house and eat pretty much for like almost two

00:48:21.160 years straight the guy couldn't he couldn't eat bro his family couldn't he could barely afford to live

00:48:24.920 i'm telling you like this is what it was so then he had to he started selling drugs and he had to

00:48:29.240 start doing all these things and eventually like obviously there's not a lot we could i could end

00:48:33.880 up helping him with sometimes yeah you know i need smart money but but that doesn't make him a bad person

00:48:39.320 listen it's a complicated thing it's a complicated obviously right like i i walk back on like he's just as

00:48:45.320 guilty as el chapo obviously el chapo's running the organization this person's a very small cog in the

00:48:49.960 machine he's like a front level dealer right yeah the thing that i the the wary i don't budge in is

00:48:55.000 like you're still contributing to that organization with with you being a cog in the machine somebody

00:49:00.840 down the supply chain in that vertical integration is still getting hurt you know that's where the

00:49:05.400 morality gets into right that's where it's hard for me to look past right it's one of the reasons

00:49:09.720 why like cocaine for instance i would never do as a drug really like most drugs right like unless they're

00:49:14.760 legalized simply because like if i'm buying cocaine or like let's say i buy cocaine from some

00:49:19.720 street dealer right you're right the street dealer probably doesn't do anything they're just trying

00:49:23.000 to make the fucking bag right they're trying to like pay their bills but if i give my 0.99

00:49:26.120 fucking 100 bucks to a coke dealer somewhere down the road because of my involvement and 0.99

00:49:31.160 their involvement somebody else got fucking hurt that's where my morality comes that's why i don't 0.99

00:49:34.600 do drugs that's one of the primary reasons why i don't also i don't need drug i don't need to do 0.93

00:49:39.000 drugs if you haven't been in a situation where that's one of your only results a lot of people like

00:49:43.160 even he said that he's trying to go and get a job but they obviously has to put down like where he's from

00:49:47.400 in his general area and and they don't hire people from them areas like they have genuine like black 1.00

00:49:51.240 lists don't hire people from these areas and stuff like that it's hard to get them type of jobs and

00:49:54.680 then even then he's had experiences where he's gone and worked with like uh people that run markets

00:49:59.320 obviously his dad would have a store at a market he'd go and work with someone at the market and they

00:50:03.240 wouldn't pay him sometimes what's he gonna do why why is it why doesn't he just open to tick tock and

00:50:08.920 start editing facts bro that's true actually you just you just told me anybody can do it no no you

00:50:15.480 told me anybody could do it wait hold on i walked back then actually what is that welcome what mood

00:50:21.960 is that was right it is he can do it part-time he can do it part-time he can't just be slang and

00:50:29.480 dope all day long he gotta learn how to edit on his time off i say he does drug dealer drug dealing 0.99

00:50:33.960 bad night and he does everything i'm gonna ask you was i stupid at the age of 16 working retail 0.98

00:50:38.840 jobs when i could have just been out slinging crack and making 10 times what i was making a 0.99

00:50:43.080 fucking no it depends on the situation if you had if you had the ability to fall back on your parents 0.97

00:50:47.480 like like we've already said then well i didn't i didn't take a dime from my parents so what was i 0.99

00:50:51.160 supposed to do like yeah yeah what would you think would be smarter for me to do i've said this i've

00:50:57.560 said this i said this earlier work your retail job stack your bread until you're in a comfortable

00:51:00.840 position where you feel like taking that risk i ain't mad at that i said that now my my friend

00:51:05.240 he couldn't just start making tiktoks because he couldn't afford to eat so he had to get money

00:51:09.000 so he could eat you know i mean so it's that it's that type of all right so you didn't have the

00:51:12.440 security i'm about to head out but i just wanted to ask everyone before i leave um who's sneak on

00:51:17.880 your opinion who somebody's who's a terrible person hillary clinton hillary clinton hillary clinton

00:51:24.520 all right the hot sauce lady dope dope what about you this who somebody's a terrible person 0.95

00:51:29.560 who's somebody's a donald trump 0.91

00:51:34.120 wrong all right musa you you go next 0.96

00:51:38.520 i'm a religious guy i don't need them coos hey there you go we got a god fair man moody you're

00:51:43.240 last joe biden because it doesn't do anything nice we got the whole first thing i agree with

00:51:49.720 i'm not the biden no no i go with the trump i'm not like i go with trump he's like a 0.99

00:52:02.920 fucking damn look he's biden's a little bit brain dead i ain't gonna lie he's a little bit 0.99

00:52:08.280 like i know i'll get lost all right you're that religious you can't even say jeffrey epstein 1.00

00:52:14.280 hey it's still not my cool i respect that i respect that he's a god-fearing man he knows his

00:52:20.520 his job is not to judge his job is to edit but like it stays in here yo can you turn your camera

00:52:25.960 on next time you don't want to look at my nose no man no i i don't want to know about that video

00:52:33.160 that you film the the one in the morning when you take to see that yeah yeah yeah like the nerdy

00:52:38.280 kid next to the one video on your channel when i was talking like this are you scared me man that

00:52:44.120 was scary that's my that's my dnd voice but anyways guys i'm gonna let you guys go

00:52:50.440 i'm about to get out of you too and destiny wants to play factorial 1.00

00:52:53.480 did you want to chat are they were chatting okay let's chat bro what's going on man you bailed on 0.96

00:52:57.000 my fucking uh double date so that you can go like read twitch drama 0.96

00:53:00.360 oh to be fair i would as well 58k not disney you did the right thing don't worry 0.98

00:53:08.440 i back it thanks i tried i'm always chasing that bag you know that's what i'm saying

00:53:12.280 i don't want to be complacent at dinner with you exactly see it's been a wild it's been a wild week

00:53:19.080 for twitch bro like i just see i like i've been tuning into destiny for the last few days just

00:53:23.880 because like all this twitch the only one that's parsing it is you because i don't know 0.90

00:53:28.600 i was gonna watch my shit because i'm banned so they're all getting fucked i told you when this 0.99

00:53:32.360 should happen that there was going to be a big shift and that people are going to start coming 0.98

00:53:35.400 to youtube streaming and didn't you kind of prove that on your own stream i'm here because

00:53:40.200 i got banned from twitch my dude that's why i'm on youtube no but i'm saying that all these people

00:53:43.800 watching twitch are mad at these woke people for being fake woke and now they're going to come

00:53:48.120 over to youtube they're going to come over to different platforms they're going to diversify

00:53:50.680 where they watch stuff because of what happened and now isn't that proof that you got 58k 0.66

00:53:54.440 covering the shit that now there's going to be a lot of it was just uh lsf and the drama hype right

00:54:00.840 now um yeah i mean i mean i'll keep growing but i think people will start to switch eventually i 0.82

00:54:05.080 think twitch is running out of steam which is kind of sad but you didn't say that last time you said

00:54:08.360 which was going to keep going um well i mean they're not going to like die but i mean i think you're

00:54:14.920 going to start to see like youtube become more competitive i don't think twitch is dying anytime soon

00:54:18.280 but i think that like you are going to start to see more people hop over i don't want to see

00:54:21.240 that twitch owner that made that exit he did the right thing man which one

00:54:29.480 one of the i'm bruised one of the owners of twitch like sold the platform to someone else right like

00:54:33.720 not even too long ago two three years ago or something like that what i mean older like ceos or

00:54:38.600 whatever no it was some some young guy i think i was i think i think i'm on about the right guy anyway

00:54:43.560 um yeah i think i think it's something like that i'm gonna show but bro a couple hundred million

00:54:50.600 young guy all i just know is amazon fucking picked it up and now they're holding on to a video site 0.92

00:54:55.400 that's apparently costing them fucking too much it seems like that to fucking bring up the concurrent 0.99

00:55:00.440 viewer numbers and all that bullshit and it was like fuck i i just i don't know why they're not 0.99

00:55:05.480 willing to eat the fucking cost because it surely can't be that high for amazon versus the bad 0.99

00:55:10.120 pretty high like serving all wait wait eating the cost for what oh for like twitch a little bit 0.99

00:55:14.680 like versus the bad press and currently in the situation they're in you know i don't know why

00:55:19.400 they are um like are you talking about the changes they just made to their partnership stuff yeah even

00:55:24.680 though i don't think it's that that's not bad for most people it's just like the streamers yeah but

00:55:28.200 they don't make much money off and it's bad publicity i super don't understand that that was weird as 0.68

00:55:31.880 fuck um yeah i i just like fucking it's interesting like they're making these moves now because like 0.94

00:55:40.280 if you think of the competition like sneaker's right like i don't think it's so much like there's a 0.99

00:55:43.960 fucking cultural shift as much as there's like a valid competitor to twitch that like because dude 0.59

00:55:49.000 i've been streaming on youtube for like years before anybody like here was and the system was terrible 0.99

00:55:53.960 like in order to fucking set up a stream it was like spread your it was fucking ass you had to set up 0.99

00:55:58.200 like live events and now the system's gotten super easy the quality is better the chat systems are the 0.99

00:56:03.160 same they got all the gifted memberships and all they need now is like discoverability like there

00:56:07.800 needs to be like a youtube option where like you're on the home page you click live and it just changes

00:56:12.360 like the twitch style layout and that would be the killer in youtube or you could shoot my 0.74

00:56:17.240 go to death now cozy rumble it would also be nice cozy's got a good user interface in my opinion

00:56:24.040 i wish they had a persistent chat yeah like offline crap yeah i would just a persistent 0.64

00:56:29.880 chat would be nice 0.92

00:56:35.960 that's it

SNEAKO - September 28, 2022

SNEAKO 4v1 COLLEGE DEBATE

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