SNEAKO - July 01, 2023


SNEAKO & Adam on Why Hip Hop Culture is ＂Degenerate＂

Topics
murder on podcast
Hosted by
Nicolas Kenn De Balinthazy
Mentioned
Lil Durk Omegle Playboy Cardi Free Aiden Zerka King Vaughn Andrew Tate King Von Polo G Jideon Bang Gang Adam
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Length

11 minutes

Words per minute

230.02

Word count

2,534

Sentence count

229

Harmful content

Misogyny

4

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Toxicity

34

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Hate speech

13

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Summary

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In this episode, we discuss Lil Durk's new album, Gangbang Bang Bang, and the impact it has on the culture of hip hop. We also talk about the impact music can have on a Muslim's mental health.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 For example, when I said black culture promotes degeneracy, that's something that everybody knows. 1.00
00:00:04.660 If you listen to any rap music, I listen to Lil Durk all the time. 0.97
00:00:07.540 He's rapping about murder all the time.
00:00:09.280 Like literally all the time.
00:00:10.220 I mean, he's Muslim and I hope alhamdulillah he becomes a better Muslim. 0.94
00:00:13.140 But he's rapping about murder constantly.
00:00:15.020 He knows that that will sell more music. 1.00
00:00:17.200 He knows that rap beef and like, I'm going to kill you. 1.00
00:00:19.180 You're going to kill me. 1.00
00:00:20.140 But you're 29 with kids. 1.00
00:00:21.400 Still talking about like killing other people and you're going to risk your life over music.
00:00:25.600 Like everything that hip hop promotes besides yay and besides a few like, you know, Christian rap or stuff like that. 1.00
00:00:30.700 It's all just drugs, murder, bitches. 1.00
00:00:34.180 And we all know that. 1.00
00:00:35.600 When they talk about we need to protect black culture, this is the number one. 0.98
00:00:39.820 This is how you prove that black culture in America promotes degeneracy. 1.00
00:00:43.400 Because when a black person becomes more affluent, when they put on a suit, when they get a good job, when they speak correctly, you're speaking white. 0.99
00:00:50.600 Why are you talking like a white boy? 0.91
00:00:52.380 I'm just speaking English properly.
00:00:53.840 When they talk about keeping black culture black in those affluent areas, like as a lawyer, as a doctor, they mean they want a doctor who's also sagging. 0.95
00:01:01.980 They want a doctor who's still banging and throwing up signs. 1.00
00:01:06.340 I mean, I agree that there's a lot of stuff within hip hop culture that is kind of negative for sure.
00:01:12.260 All of it.
00:01:13.380 All of it.
00:01:15.480 You really put me on the spot here to think about it objectively.
00:01:18.300 What do they promote that's positive?
00:01:19.860 Besides, like, in some of their interviews, you listen to, like, Polo G, for example.
00:01:23.140 Who go on an interview, I'm like, yeah, man, I like what you're talking about.
00:01:25.520 Like, you're uplifting people.
00:01:26.580 But you listen to the music, and I'm like, oh, this is all murder.
00:01:28.960 Yeah, well, if you watch, like, a Lil Durk interview, you get a very different side of him.
00:01:32.780 Whereas he's going to magnify the stuff that is, you know, violent or controversial in the music because he knows that that will work in the music.
00:01:40.440 It will sell.
00:01:40.880 And it feels like the only stuff that he holds back on is the stuff that he thinks will literally, like, get him in trouble in a courtroom.
00:01:47.380 But everything else goes.
00:01:48.940 Yeah, pretty much.
00:01:49.840 Yeah.
00:01:50.280 And when you actually look at the way he lives his life, I mean, obviously, he's not killing anyone.
00:01:53.920 He's not, you know, he's in a relationship.
00:01:55.480 It doesn't seem like he's cheating on her or anything.
00:01:57.380 He's talking about religion and stuff.
00:01:59.440 He doesn't bring the religious stuff up in the music.
00:02:01.560 No.
00:02:01.800 Like, on the new album much.
00:02:02.960 Because you can't talk about Islam and music because it's haram to even listen to music. 1.00
00:02:06.580 I don't know if that's really, like, occurred to him yet.
00:02:08.960 No, he's Muslim.
00:02:09.880 He's acknowledged that.
00:02:11.220 He must know.
00:02:11.900 I mean, this is common.
00:02:13.480 I think that probably a lot of people who consider themselves Muslims just kind of, that's a little bit extreme to them.
00:02:19.820 That's the correct one.
00:02:20.680 I just spent a couple days in San Diego giving dabba, which means, like, talking to people about Islam.
00:02:25.440 And, like, when we leave the park or when we go from the mosque back and forth in prayer, like, there's just no music.
00:02:30.040 You just listen to that.
00:02:31.260 And you realize how much better that is for your mental because it does switch your brain off.
00:02:35.260 Like, when you get in that routine, you get in your car and you're playing, yeah, GD gang.
00:02:39.960 Bang.
00:02:40.280 Bang.
00:02:40.380 You're just, like, nodding your head.
00:02:41.500 And then you get into that state.
00:02:43.860 You become, like, what you're around.
00:02:45.840 You know, there's some of the five people that you're around the most, right?
00:02:48.260 If you listen to music about murder, then you're going to, your brain is starting to program to become used to this stuff.
00:02:52.960 And then you're like, yeah, murder is cool.
00:02:54.980 Gang bang.
00:02:55.680 And then you're like, you start, you get a gun.
00:02:57.760 And then you start sagging a little more.
00:03:00.020 And then you start to emulate that.
00:03:01.440 So when you don't listen to that or, like, if you just listen to the Quran, for example, you're going to feel better. 0.98
00:03:05.980 Your spirit's going to be more protected.
00:03:08.120 But I grew up listening to extremely violent, extremely misogynistic hip-hop.
00:03:13.620 And I would be lying if I said it didn't affect me in ways that probably I wouldn't want for my kid.
00:03:19.600 But at the same time, I mean, they are, it's popular because it's providing, like, a gritty, very real perspective on the life that they grew up in.
00:03:28.040 And I think that's, you know, that's what people are going to Lil Durk for, right?
00:03:30.680 They want to see.
00:03:31.280 They want that raw feeling.
00:03:33.260 But that's the hypocrisy. 0.87
00:03:34.340 These people are rich. 0.87
00:03:35.180 They don't kill anybody.
00:03:36.080 And that's all they know how to rap about. 0.99
00:03:38.020 They don't really ever try to elevate it.
00:03:39.380 I've spent a lot of time in my life listening to King Vaughn and all these other Chicago rappers.
00:03:42.620 But I have no interest in, like, watching an action movie.
00:03:45.700 Because it just feels fake. 1.00
00:03:47.080 It feels stupid. 1.00
00:03:47.780 You want that real murder. 1.00
00:03:48.560 I mean, I would be lying if I denied it.
00:03:51.580 You want that authentic murder.
00:03:52.900 If I just want to hear, you know, listening to me.
00:03:55.340 I get what you're saying.
00:03:55.740 Well, think about SoundCloud rap.
00:03:57.440 SoundCloud rap was, like, primarily dudes who had never really done anything violent and definitely weren't, like, from the streets or in gangs or whatever, rapping, saying that they're going to pull up and shoot you or whatever.
00:04:09.020 And then that really, like, diminished and made way for, like, the situation we're in now, where a huge percentage of the most popular hip-hop is dudes who really, really are from that environment.
00:04:20.580 I just interviewed a dude who killed two people and he got off on both of them for self-defense.
00:04:24.620 What did he, what does he have to bring to the table?
00:04:30.000 I mean, his music is really good.
00:04:31.320 It is?
00:04:31.540 But you could imagine that probably the narrative or the fact, like, what's going to make people click on his interview?
00:04:37.800 Probably the fact that at some point there's going to be a title that says something about beating two bodies.
00:04:42.340 Yeah, murder on my podcast.
00:04:43.880 Like, what?
00:04:44.560 And then people, yeah. 0.99
00:04:45.380 But, I mean, people want to hear real shit, right? 0.99
00:04:50.520 There's real shit and then there's just people want to be excited by the generacy. 1.00
00:04:55.380 People live vicariously through that. 0.99
00:04:56.680 It's the same thing, like, when a girl becomes addicted to a murder documentary, it's because they like to feel that excitement of, like, putting themselves in that situation.
00:05:06.220 That's not something, just because it's real doesn't mean it's good.
00:05:08.880 Just because it's out there doesn't mean that it needs to be something that you put into your mind and put into your soul.
00:05:13.240 Like, yes, it exists, but, like, what new information did you learn?
00:05:17.560 Okay, there's people that kill people.
00:05:18.960 You are kind of, like, making me realize that I should probably dwell on why I enjoy extremely gangster hip-hop a little bit more because just accepting that because it sounds good doesn't seem like a good enough reason to continue to listen to it for the rest of my life.
00:05:36.400 I listen to rap all the time where I'm just like, oh, how would I ever explain that lyric to my kid?
00:05:42.000 There's no explanation.
00:05:43.660 Besides, well, there is an explanation.
00:05:45.280 It's just deeply depressing and kind of sad.
00:05:48.540 Yeah.
00:05:48.780 I mean, I realize that listening to Playboy Cardi.
00:05:51.620 I like this music, too.
00:05:52.420 It sounds good, but I listen to a whole lot of Red, and that's, like, a demonic album, like, rapping about murder, murder, murder, murder all the time.
00:05:57.880 I was listening to it, and then afterwards, you're just in a weird headspace.
00:06:00.540 Next time you listen to, like, violent murder music, just, like, think about, analyze where your head is at afterwards.
00:06:06.200 Is it, like, in a, like, you know what?
00:06:08.280 I'm going to go feed some kids.
00:06:10.320 I'm going to go save a church.
00:06:12.380 The Cardi stuff seems worse to me than King Von because it's, like, it's just theatrical.
00:06:18.240 It's just murder lyrics for the sake of sounding cool.
00:06:23.000 Yeah.
00:06:23.160 Which is, like, almost worse to me than King Von rapping about some murder that he actually did.
00:06:27.720 I don't know if I could say worse, but it's definitely different.
00:06:30.200 Which is lame in a way.
00:06:31.380 If you can only be cool by using murder, then that's lame.
00:06:36.340 But if you can be cool, the highest level of art would be inspiration, would be trying to uplift.
00:06:42.340 If you can be cool spreading a positive message, that's way better than anything that they promote.
00:06:48.500 But do you feel like, even as a, you know, commentator or a public intellectual?
00:06:54.900 Am I?
00:06:55.400 I'm just a streamer.
00:06:56.180 I was just chuckled.
00:06:56.940 As I said, yeah, a streamer, whatever you want to call it.
00:06:59.060 Do you feel like you end up kind of falling victim to some of the same stuff?
00:07:04.060 100%.
00:07:04.460 Because you roasting this trans person, I mean, it's not terribly kind, right? 1.00
00:07:10.560 But it definitely probably got you more fans and followers than...
00:07:14.800 I don't think I said anything that was rude.
00:07:16.160 You just said you're not a dude.
00:07:17.300 I mean, you're not a girl. 1.00
00:07:18.500 Well, he brought on that other kid who was kind of...
00:07:20.280 Yeah, that wasn't me.
00:07:21.200 They were roasting.
00:07:21.780 That wasn't me.
00:07:22.320 Even worse.
00:07:22.940 Yeah.
00:07:24.120 They patched it up?
00:07:25.700 What do you mean they patched it up?
00:07:26.640 Did they...
00:07:27.120 Oh, I don't know if they did, but afterwards I'm like, yeah, this is too far.
00:07:29.600 That was, like, at a certain point it could become bullying.
00:07:31.380 Right.
00:07:32.060 And that's why that stream was probably age-restricted when I watched it on YouTube the other day.
00:07:35.140 Yeah, it was.
00:07:37.500 Not that that's Aiden's biggest problem or anything.
00:07:39.800 No. 0.93
00:07:40.140 You think Aiden's, like, career is fucked up because he's just gone too close to the sun in terms of the offensive content? 0.97
00:07:45.280 Here's the thing. 0.96
00:07:45.900 When he was just having rappers on stream and just doing degenerate stuff, like people were smoking weed and rappers were talking about gangbanging murder, nobody canceled him.
00:07:54.040 When he says there's two genders, which everybody knows is true, when he has Andrew Tate on, which everybody knows he's innocent, then people are like, oh, you're... 0.53
00:08:02.040 Once he starts getting to the truth and trying to figure things out, it's like, what's going on?
00:08:06.160 When he asks a question about, like, wait, is this good?
00:08:09.540 That's when he's a brand risk.
00:08:11.300 Right. 0.99
00:08:11.540 But when he's just being a degenerate, he has porn stars on, and the rappers are there, like, talking about the... 0.99
00:08:16.520 No one cares. 1.00
00:08:17.660 When he's being gay, nobody cancels him. 1.00
00:08:20.300 When he's there, like, oh, I'm sucking dick. 1.00
00:08:22.860 Nobody... 1.00
00:08:23.780 Why is that not a brand risk?
00:08:25.500 But it's a brand risk when he's doing push-ups.
00:08:27.620 Yeah.
00:08:28.140 You are making a pretty good point with some of that.
00:08:30.240 But think about it.
00:08:31.100 Free Aiden.
00:08:31.460 But all the rappers he was having on and stuff, it's like, he's not getting, like, the gangster side of them or the violent side of them. 0.96
00:08:37.100 They're just hanging out on some regular-ass shit, and that's why people were so drawn to it is because... 0.99
00:08:41.340 Because they see a human side of a murderer. 1.00
00:08:42.500 Yeah, he's hanging out.
00:08:44.060 Probably a very small percentage of rappers are actual murderers.
00:08:47.020 But, you know, if he's sitting there with a Polo G or, you know, whoever, it's like, you know, he's getting, like, a very, like, cool, chill, humble version of them.
00:08:56.220 If anything, that's something I realized through Aiden and some of these other guys, Jideon, whatever, is that, like, these are dudes who...
00:09:03.340 They're not, like, hip-hop influencers.
00:09:05.160 They're just concerned with entertainment.
00:09:07.260 And that audience is 10 or 20 or 50 times bigger than the audience for people who are, like, really, really focused on one specific style of music.
00:09:16.860 Yeah, so it works really well together.
00:09:19.460 But when you start becoming, like, when you're not just a goofy guy like Aiden was a couple years ago, and then you're, like, asking questions and, you know, pissing people off because you're telling the truth,
00:09:28.740 then that entertainment dude can't associate with you because it blows the whole spot up.
00:09:32.700 Then they start asking questions, like, wait, what are you really talking about in your music?
00:09:35.860 Are you actually promoting anything good?
00:09:37.420 What's going on here?
00:09:38.100 And they're kind of stuck.
00:09:38.940 They're like, I just want to smoke weed and promote my album.
00:09:40.620 But you've got to be more careful on stream because I saw you and Zerka hollering at those girls, and then you realized they were underage.
00:09:46.020 Oh, come on. 0.87
00:09:47.820 I didn't holler at them.
00:09:48.840 I just had a, how old are you?
00:09:49.940 And they're like, oh, I think you're perfect for me.
00:09:51.700 And you, you're perfect for Zerka. 0.98
00:09:53.380 And then they're like, we are about to be 15.
00:09:55.420 No, then I asked.
00:09:56.720 I asked Adam.
00:09:57.500 I said, how old are you guys?
00:09:58.560 And they said, we're 40.
00:09:59.380 I'm like, okay, bye, left.
00:10:00.780 But when it's clipped up on a stream, like, and also, are we really hollering at him?
00:10:05.680 Or are we just on Omegle?
00:10:07.200 You know, farming content.
00:10:08.620 How much can you really holler?
00:10:09.820 Yeah.
00:10:10.060 Am I like, yeah, let's actually go on a date with Omegle girl. 0.96
00:10:12.600 No, it's just, I'm just, I'm just here on Omegle clicking.
00:10:15.520 Whoa, double date.
00:10:16.500 Oh, you're 14.
00:10:17.380 Whoa.
00:10:17.920 I had to learn that lesson because doing the man on the street type stuff.
00:10:21.020 Not only do you have to ID them, if you're going to say anything even remotely sexual
00:10:25.920 to them, but you also have to like, even if they are of age, if they don't look, like
00:10:30.180 if they look kind of young, then you also don't want to use that either.
00:10:33.800 What were you talking about on man on the street interviews where you had to ID them?
00:10:36.420 We were doing some plug talk, man on the street type stuff, which, okay.
00:10:39.700 So we did it at the porn convention and obviously everybody, everything's on the up and up because
00:10:43.320 you're not going to be able to get in there if you're underage.
00:10:44.960 But then we did it in public one time and like we uploaded one of them and we, we, we ID'd
00:10:50.620 the people before we asked them like what kind of porn they watched or whatever.
00:10:53.260 And they were of age, but then like, they kind of looked young.
00:10:56.460 So like immediately the comment section just starts filling up with people like, this is
00:10:59.820 weird.
00:11:00.220 And I'm like, oh, okay.