SNEAKO - June 25, 2023


SNEAKO AND SHAYKH UTHMAN CONVERTING NORMIES TO ISLAM

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In this episode, we pray with the One Message Foundation in San Diego, California. We talk about God, the Quran, and whether or not Jesus was a Muslim in his life. We also talk about the concept of God being a creator and why we should not worry about the things we should be worrying about.

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00:00:00 Alright, I'm going to go live, Sviko.
00:00:07 We're live, brother.
00:00:09 We're good?
00:00:10 We're live.
00:00:10 Let's pray.
00:00:14 Is everything set up for prayer?
00:00:16 Yeah, I mean, we can go pray and then I'll give this camera to somebody to film us while we pray.
00:00:21 The stream should be started.
00:00:24 Hey, what's up, chat?
00:00:25 Welcome to, we're in San Diego in Valboa Park.
00:00:28 We're about to go pray.
00:00:28 with the One Message Foundation
00:00:30 and we're going to be giving
00:00:33 Gawah today and bringing people to Islam. 0.99
00:00:35 So this is the One Message Foundation.
00:00:37 Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad,
00:00:39 Peace be upon them all, they're all giving the same
00:00:41 message that we're supposed to worship the one true God.
00:00:43 There's a sign over there I want to show you that says Jesus
00:00:44 was a Muslim in his life.
00:00:46 Reminds me of change my mind.
00:00:49 I want to see if there's going to be some debates
00:00:51 today.
00:00:51 Let me show you.
00:00:55 Jesus is a Muslim. 0.96
00:00:56 It's like changing my mind.
00:00:58 Yeah, say hi, say what's up.
00:01:00 What's up, chat?
00:01:01 Hey, chat, why is this guy, he's like, I used to watch your streams.
00:01:04 I'm like, why don't you watch any more?
00:01:05 Hey, you're not on Twitch, man.
00:01:07 What?
00:01:07 You don't know how to go to Rumble.com?
00:01:09 I'll start going on Rumble. 0.53
00:01:10 Okay, okay.
00:01:11 That's NPC behavior.
00:01:12 I hope you know.
00:01:12 That's fine, though.
00:01:14 Hey, what's up, guys?
00:01:15 How are you guys?
00:01:17 Why not?
00:01:17 Yeah.
00:01:18 Hey, nice to meet you.
00:01:19 Are you, man?
00:01:20 Yeah, I guess you're going to like chip it up so good.
00:01:22 So, well, we need to go pray, but can you give us five minutes?
00:01:25 Yeah.
00:01:25 Maybe there's some things we want to talk about.
00:01:26 Maybe we can have a discussion.
00:01:28 You guys know about Islam?
00:01:30 No.
00:01:30 Where are you guys from?
00:01:34 Ireland.
00:01:34 Nice.
00:01:35 Dublin or?
00:01:36 No, it's Hipperary.
00:01:37 So did Ireland.
00:01:38 Nice.
00:01:38 Nice, man.
00:01:39 I'm planning a trip out to Ireland, inshallah, soon.
00:01:42 Oh, yeah?
00:01:42 So we'll see you there.
00:01:43 But in Islam, we believe there's only one creator, one God.
00:01:46 We don't worship people.
00:01:47 We don't worship saints.
00:01:48 We don't worship any prophet.
00:01:50 We just worship that one great creator.
00:01:52 What do you think about that?
00:01:54 Does that make sense?
00:01:55 Yeah.
00:01:56 Do you believe there's one God?
00:02:00 I believe a lot of these.
00:02:01 No, two or two.
00:02:03 10 minutes later.
00:02:04 Alright.
00:02:05 But, if you think of the concept, do you believe there is a creator?
00:02:09 A creator of that.
00:02:10 Or you don't know?
00:02:12 Tell me.
00:02:13 I don't worry about these things.
00:02:14 Don't worry about it.
00:02:15 Same in life.
00:02:16 Think about that.
00:02:17 If you know that there's a purpose to life and you don't worry about it, and you die,
00:02:21 and you find out that you were supposed to be doing something, wouldn't that suck?
00:02:24 Like everything in life finishes, right?
00:02:26 Money, fame, the things you do worry about
00:02:28 is going to get left behind, right?
00:02:30 How long do you live? 70 years, 80 years?
00:02:32 So what?
00:02:34 What if there's an everlasting life that you should have been worrying about?
00:02:36 You feel me?
00:02:38 You have a Quran?
00:02:40 You have a Quran?
00:02:42 I'll give you one as a gift.
00:02:44 Go close in a second.
00:02:48 In Muslims, we believe in the Prophet Jesus,
00:02:50 Prophet Moses, Prophet Abraham,
00:02:52 Abraham, Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon them. 0.54
00:02:54 We don't worship them.
00:02:55 We believe all of them were sent from the same God.
00:02:57 They all brought a good message.
00:02:59 Does that make sense to you?
00:03:00 Can you get some more for all of you?
00:03:01 Thanks for your watch.
00:03:02 Yeah, thank you.
00:03:03 These are all gifts, free for you.
00:03:05 The only price is you got to read them.
00:03:08 All right?
00:03:09 $20 for you, though.
00:03:10 You got $20?
00:03:12 If you got any questions, come hit us up.
00:03:14 We're going to go for it.
00:03:14 All right.
00:03:16 Nice to meet you.
00:03:17 Hey, see you guys.
00:03:18 And I was shocked.
00:03:18 Bill Gates recently came out.
00:03:20 And he was like, man, I wish you could.
00:03:22 Shake shake you have a brother who can hold this for us. Oh, yeah
00:03:28 Yeah, can you can you hold it doing he's at the point it towards us like this
00:03:37 My filmer can't even film because he has to pray 1.00
00:03:42 On the job only you pray check I'll pray after
00:03:52 Okay, so what prayer is it right now?
00:03:55 What time of day?
00:03:57 What is it called?
00:03:58 Zuhr
00:03:59 You want to come over here?
00:04:02 Yeah
00:04:02 Alright.
00:04:32 Thank you.
00:05:02 Thank you.
00:05:32 Oh
00:05:41 Yeah
00:06:02 Thank you.
00:06:32 Oh
00:07:02 Come on, come on! 0.98
00:07:09 Come on! 0.61
00:07:21 Come on, come on! 0.98
00:07:28 Who did this?
00:07:32 beyond that
00:07:36 yeah
00:07:42 yeah
00:07:52 yeah
00:07:57 Satsang with Mooji 0.99
00:08:27 Allahhu Ekzah 0.90
00:08:40 Allahhu Ekzah 0.90
00:08:47 Take a big kid.
00:09:06 Oh
00:09:36 Allahu Iman Khamidah
00:09:43 Allahu Akbar
00:09:55 Allahu Akbar
00:10:02 Allahu Akbar
00:10:06 Oh,
00:10:14 yeah.
00:10:36 To QUEEN 0.96
00:10:49 haha
00:10:56 oh
00:10:59 Okay, I want to make sure everything's good.
00:11:17 Chad, one, if you can hear me, everything's good?
00:11:19 Okay.
00:11:19 Is the connection good?
00:11:22 Cool.
00:11:23 so yeah let's uh let's go save some lives let's go do it
00:11:30 let's go some dollar
00:11:40 You got one. Make sure to pan back and forth.
00:11:58 So, are you Muslim already, Ron?
00:12:00 Not quite yet.
00:12:02 So let's do it. What's holding you back?
00:12:04 Tell me what's holding you back.
00:12:06 Do you believe there's one creator?
00:12:08 Well, as I was telling your colleagues, I'm, well, am I going to be on the internet here?
00:12:14 This is, I mean, this is, what is it called? Live streams?
00:12:17 So, it's a public place.
00:12:19 We just stream.
00:12:20 My friend Amin had, you know, put the backpack on properly.
00:12:25 You can put it on me. It's okay. You don't have to have to put him into it.
00:12:28 Sure.
00:12:28 It's all right.
00:12:29 So, go ahead. What do you believe?
00:12:30 I got to take off.
00:12:32 I'll see you guys next week.
00:12:33 But do you believe there's one creator or no?
00:12:35 I don't know.
00:12:36 All right, so let me ask you this. Where do you think we came from?
00:12:40 Who's we?
00:12:41 Humans.
00:12:43 Where do I think?
00:12:44 Yeah, I'm asking, what do you think? Free country, give your opinion and relax.
00:12:48 Well, I think the evolutionary account is persuasive.
00:12:52 Do you believe we evolved from a single-style organism?
00:12:55 That I don't know. I mean, how did we evolve to be where we are today?
00:12:59 I mean, just ask your opinion. It's a conversation. Relax.
00:13:03 Like, I believe there's a creator that created this, right?
00:13:06 And let me ask you something, like, if you study, there's a concept, you can look it up,
00:13:11 it's called a minimum gene concept, right?
00:13:13 Where even a single living cell had to have had a minimum set of genetics
00:13:19 for it to have survived, or it would have collapsed.
00:13:21 And this is something we can scientifically prove, unlike the theory of evolution.
00:13:25 Well, no, organisms have to fit into their environment, otherwise they'll perish.
00:13:29 Excellent.
00:13:29 There's nothing wrong with an organism adapting to its environment.
00:13:33 I've got nothing against that.
00:13:34 They have to, otherwise they perish.
00:13:36 But where did we begin from? That's the question.
00:13:39 I don't know.
00:13:40 Yeah, so that's what I'm telling you.
00:13:41 This is what's called the minimum gene concept,
00:13:43 meaning the single-cell organism could not have survived
00:13:47 without a minimum set of genetics.
00:13:49 It's theorized to be around 200.
00:13:51 The least we've done is around 300-something.
00:13:53 So that means it could not have evolved by itself
00:13:56 because the first cell had to have had that minimum set in place.
00:14:00 Who put that in place?
00:14:01 You know what comes from this argument, then?
00:14:03 It's not an argument. It's a discussion.
00:14:05 Well, from this perspective?
00:14:07 Sure.
00:14:08 The inevitable question is, well, then who created God?
00:14:11 Great question. Ask. That's what I'm here to answer, right?
00:14:14 Look, have you ever seen a puppet show?
00:14:16 I think I have.
00:14:17 Okay, so when you see a puppet show, you see the puppet has strings, right?
00:14:21 Yeah, where are you going with your analogy?
00:14:23 stay with me. A puppet has strings, right? So when you see a puppet with strings, you think
00:14:28 there must be a puppeteer pulling the strings, right? Right or wrong? Well, these are rhetorical
00:14:33 questions. So we're having a conversation. You ask the question, I'm answering. So it's
00:14:37 a conversation. So when you see strings on a puppet, you realize there is a puppeteer,
00:14:42 right? All right. If you go to the back and you go to the puppeteer, you're like, where
00:14:46 are your strings? Does that make sense to you? It doesn't, right? So God is uncreated.
00:14:51 He's always been there. He'll always be there. That's the greatness of God. He's not a human. He's not a monkey
00:14:56 He's not a cow. He's not a prophet. He is the great creator. That is all-powerful
00:15:04 Excellent great question. This is this is the conversation. I wanted right?
00:15:07 How do I know that because the Quran tells us that how do I know the Quran is the truth that the next question you're gonna ask?
00:15:13 Go ahead
00:15:15 Ask away, right?
00:15:17 The Quran was revealed to a man in the desert 0.96
00:15:20 Who couldn't read
00:15:21 You're well read, I'm sure
00:15:22 I can tell
00:15:22 So you know the Prophet Muhammad couldn't read or write 1.00
00:15:24 Peace and blessings be upon him, right?
00:15:27 Alright
00:15:27 So when he recited the Quran
00:15:29 And the poet
00:15:30 And he was not a poet
00:15:31 He couldn't write poetry
00:15:33 The poet said that nobody could have brought
00:15:35 You know, I can hear the same story
00:15:36 From all these different groups here
00:15:38 Really?
00:15:38 The Mormons will tell me about Joseph Smith 0.99
00:15:40 I got you
00:15:41 The Jews will tell me about Moses and all these people had a direct conduit. 0.59
00:15:47 I got you. Let me answer that, okay?
00:15:49 For example, the Book of Mormon, right?
00:15:51 When you talk about the mark of Cain, you know about that?
00:15:54 Yeah, it's part of their...
00:15:55 So what's the mark of Cain?
00:15:57 Supposedly this was a reason for discriminating against black people.
00:16:02 What's the mark of Cain in the Mormon religion?
00:16:04 Well, from the Genesis story, of course, about...
00:16:07 No, because in Genesis it doesn't mention any color.
00:16:09 But according to the Mormon faith, the mark of Cain was dark skinned.
00:16:13 Yeah.
00:16:13 So that would mean, if you believe in the Book of Mormon and the teaching of Brigham Young and Joseph Smith,
00:16:19 then you would say that black people were cursed with dark skin because they didn't choose a sign.
00:16:23 Yeah, fortunately the Mormons have backed off from that time. 0.99
00:16:25 But it's in their scripture.
00:16:26 So, I mean, you can't just switch your scripture out when it's not politically acceptable.
00:16:29 Oh, we can find a lot of horrible things in the scripture.
00:16:32 Not in the Quran.
00:16:34 The Quran has nothing horrible.
00:16:35 We have a Quran here, you can show me if you find anything horrible.
00:16:38 Right?
00:16:38 So that's why I'm saying our boots is not like other boots.
00:16:42 The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, he split the moon with Joseph Smith. 0.99
00:16:46 Sorry?
00:16:47 The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, the people told him, show us a miracle.
00:16:51 And I can give you documentation, historic eyewitness accounts.
00:16:56 I'm sorry, what do you call your name?
00:16:57 Osman.
00:16:58 Osman.
00:17:00 Sheikh Osman, right? 0.61
00:17:02 I'm a student of knowledge.
00:17:03 I don't call myself a Sheikh.
00:17:04 Okay.
00:17:05 But, you know, go ahead, Osman.
00:17:07 Well, you hear the same story from these different people that, no, no, it's our Prophet, they got it right, we have the revelation, you've got to believe what we said, our Prophet got it right.
00:17:15 There's even a booth there, which I found rather offensive, about anti-Muslim Jews.
00:17:22 Yeah, yeah, we don't worry about haters.
00:17:23 The question here is, I'm not telling you you have to disbelieve, I'm giving you evidence, right?
00:17:27 What I'm saying is the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, could not read or write. 1.00
00:17:32 How could he produce a book that none of the liberally giant poets of the time could not respond to?
00:17:38 How could he know the phases of the child development inside the womb?
00:17:41 How could he split a moon where many, numerous eyewitness accounts from...
00:17:46 My Mormon friends tell me the same stories about Joseph Smith.
00:17:48 Joseph Smith, yeah.
00:17:49 Joseph Smith, yeah.
00:17:50 No, about being illiterate and suddenly he gets this revelation.
00:17:53 Look, my neighbors are Mormon. I know a lot of Mormons.
00:17:56 I've been to Utah, I've debated Mormons, I've discussed it with them.
00:17:59 I have never seen them claim that Joseph Smith split the moon, right?
00:18:02 The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, and again, I'm telling you that I have a video on this.
00:18:06 You can look it up, Othman ibn Farooq, moon splitting, where I scan the books.
00:18:10 I show historic first-person accounts of those people, Muslim and non-Muslim,
00:18:16 even the enemies of the Prophet, peace be upon him, that said, yes, the moon split and came back together.
00:18:21 I talk about NASA's discovery, about the cracks around the moon.
00:18:24 We talked about the two phases of the moon.
00:18:26 All of that is in my video.
00:18:27 I don't want to take too much of your time.
00:18:29 But I'm asking you, how can a man who doesn't have the power of God behind him
00:18:33 split the moon and bring it back together?
00:18:36 Well, there are a lot of legends that we find in Scripture.
00:18:38 Excellent.
00:18:39 Who are the eyewitnesses of those legends?
00:18:41 Well, these people all came to have eyewitnesses.
00:18:43 Amen.
00:18:43 The story...
00:18:44 So like Moses, when he split the seed, right?
00:18:46 Who was the eyewitness?
00:18:48 Well, we have all these accounts in...
00:18:51 In Genesis, in the Bible, right?
00:18:53 But those are not eyewitness accounts.
00:18:55 We don't even know the authors of those accounts, right?
00:18:58 They're anonymous authors, right?
00:18:59 Some are, some aren't.
00:19:01 This isn't the place to go through.
00:19:02 For example, Moses splitting.
00:19:04 And I believe Moses split the ocean.
00:19:05 But I believe because it's in the Quran.
00:19:06 But what I'm asking you, can you name any eyewitness that saw that?
00:19:11 I'm not...
00:19:12 Right, but when you go home, can you look it up?
00:19:14 Yeah, I would say.
00:19:15 When the Prophet Muhammad, peace of the blood of Qanem, he split the moon. 1.00
00:19:18 Yeah, I got to sit down.
00:19:19 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:19:20 Can you guys get the brother of the chair for my kitchen?
00:19:25 Well, that's very Christian of you. Thank you.
00:19:27 It's a very what?
00:19:28 It's a very Christian attitude. I appreciate that.
00:19:30 A very Christian attitude? 0.98
00:19:31 Yes.
00:19:32 Why wouldn't that be a very Muslim attitude? 1.00
00:19:34 I don't know. I'm just kidding.
00:19:35 Have a seat.
00:19:44 You good?
00:19:45 If you want some water, you good?
00:19:47 So, when we talk about eyewitness accounts, if you look at the miracles in the Old Testament,
00:19:54 we don't actually have the names of the eyewitnesses.
00:19:56 These are oral traditions that over time, they develop, right?
00:20:00 That's not something you can put to a test as we're looking at history.
00:20:04 Well, I can't do it.
00:20:06 I've read the Old Testament.
00:20:07 I have as well.
00:20:09 There are a lot of people who claim to be...
00:20:10 Can you hand me my Bible?
00:20:14 My Bible right there.
00:20:15 The kryptonite.
00:20:17 so when you talk about the old
00:20:19 it looks like that's pretty well read
00:20:21 it is, it is, I like to read
00:20:22 so do you believe that this is from God
00:20:25 I have my doubts
00:20:27 you have your doubts, so do I
00:20:29 let me ask you
00:20:31 different people write all kinds of
00:20:33 mythology and lectures
00:20:35 so that means this is not reliable
00:20:36 I mean if you're saying
00:20:39 that different people put their own mindset
00:20:41 and mythology into it, then that would not be
00:20:43 a reliable text, right?
00:20:45 I would have questions about it
00:20:46 Okay, so that means, again, going back to Moses' miracle, you end up with no eyewitness accounts,
00:20:52 and even the accounts here, you have doubts about.
00:20:54 But the Prophet Muhammad, please be upon him, the moon being split is in the Quran, Surah al-Qamar, first ayah. 0.92
00:21:00 And Abdullah ibn Abbas, Anas ibn Malik, Abdullah ibn Umar, I can name to you those people who were present,
00:21:06 not just the Muslims, not just you're going to say, oh, they were Muslims, they were biased.
00:21:10 No, even the enemies of the Prophet, like at that time, Abu Sufyan was not a Muslim.
00:21:14 even he was a witness
00:21:15 Mughayra, Walid
00:21:17 those that died
00:21:18 not Muslim 0.99
00:21:19 they admitted
00:21:20 they saw the spreading of the moon
00:21:21 now Anas ibn Malik
00:21:23 at the time was in Medina
00:21:24 right
00:21:25 so can you imagine
00:21:25 that it's not just in Mecca even
00:21:27 even in other cities
00:21:28 you have people
00:21:29 that were eyewitnesses
00:21:30 now I can even give you
00:21:31 the chain of narrators
00:21:33 all the way
00:21:34 to the books
00:21:34 like Bukhari 0.98
00:21:35 and Abu Dawud
00:21:35 and ibn Majah
00:21:36 and ibn Tirmadi
00:21:36 where these were written down
00:21:37 right
00:21:38 that evidence
00:21:39 and each narrator
00:21:40 I can tell you
00:21:41 their moral character
00:21:42 their memory
00:21:43 when they lived
00:21:44 You don't have anything like that for the Bible or the miracles of the past.
00:21:47 No, I think there's a lot of that in the Old Testament.
00:21:50 I'm not, I didn't come prepared to.
00:21:51 No, no, no, it's not a debate, it's a discussion, right?
00:21:53 To go through the Old Testament, but there are a lot of people who have witnessed miracles.
00:21:58 Excellent.
00:21:59 Can you go home and tell me who's an eyewitness to Moses and miracles?
00:22:04 And come back and tell me.
00:22:05 I'm not putting you on the spot.
00:22:06 Like, this is not me trying to put, I'm relaxed.
00:22:09 I understand.
00:22:10 Now, I'll be back next week.
00:22:12 Excellent, excellent.
00:22:12 But I named you, I named to you all of those that were eyewitness accounts of the Prophet Muhammad ď·ş, right?
00:22:21 So you claim, yes.
00:22:22 Yeah, and again, I have a video.
00:22:24 You can look at the scams, you can watch that, no problem.
00:22:28 Well, I owe my friend, Amin, a phone call.
00:22:31 Excellent, excellent, excellent.
00:22:33 Amin and I will talk about this.
00:22:34 Excellent, excellent.
00:22:36 Look, again, like I said, you can research it and you can come back.
00:22:39 Yeah.
00:22:40 I'll come back.
00:22:41 Maybe we'll talk some more.
00:22:42 Thank you Ron. I'll tell you what, when you go home, look up Uthman ibn Farooq, moon splitting. 0.98
00:22:48 Uthman ibn Farooq, moon splitting.
00:22:52 Say Uthman, tell you guys, don't touch us. 0.99
00:22:54 My guys? I'm all these guys, guys.
00:22:56 We're over here in peace, Vijay.
00:22:58 That's what he's doing.
00:23:01 Kindly standing in front of our camera.
00:23:04 So, anyway, before we got rudely interrupted there.
00:23:10 So, what I'm saying.
00:23:11 or to go out on the internet either.
00:23:13 I got you.
00:23:14 So basically, Sheikh Uthman has live hecklers that come every time
00:23:20 because this is so successful.
00:23:22 They've had about 2,000 shahadas, I think, this year.
00:23:24 Shahada is when they get people to accept that Muhammad, peace be upon him, 1.00
00:23:27 was the final prophet and God is the one true God.
00:23:30 And so the Christians, I mean, no disrespect to a lot of Christians in the chat,
00:23:33 they don't do as good a job of converting and then they come here.
00:23:36 I mean, don't give them free clout, but they come and try to interrupt.
00:23:39 Nothing's about clout, my man.
00:23:40 You just didn't touch me.
00:23:42 No, you're in front of me.
00:23:44 No, not about me.
00:23:46 They come to heck over.
00:23:48 These guys have already been refuted so many times.
00:23:50 Don't put the camera on them.
00:23:52 They're here walking around with a tripod trying to interrupt.
00:23:55 But you see that guy, the guy we spoke to, he had a very respectful conversation.
00:23:59 He said he's going to come back next week.
00:24:01 It was really good.
00:24:03 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:24:05 Hold on, hold on.
00:24:07 They're kind of you.
00:24:09 Okay, we get the content fine.
00:24:11 They never do this.
00:24:12 They know you're here.
00:24:13 They never approach us like this.
00:24:15 They always come without their cameras.
00:24:17 They try to say something slick and go back.
00:24:19 But this is clearly because, you know, they're trying to say that.
00:24:21 Raise it high.
00:24:21 Why are you afraid of us here, camera?
00:24:23 Nobody's afraid.
00:24:24 Talk to them.
00:24:25 Talk to them.
00:24:26 That's what this is.
00:24:27 I've talked to both.
00:24:28 We've got video.
00:24:29 You didn't even let me read the verse in the Bible last time.
00:24:32 It got confrontation.
00:24:32 That's because you didn't tell the truth.
00:24:33 Let me finish.
00:24:35 You didn't even let me read.
00:24:36 How would you do it?
00:24:37 Why is this dude holding the tripod like that?
00:24:39 Who needs a better setup?
00:24:41 That's not how you use a tripod.
00:24:43 I told you last video. It's online.
00:24:45 That footage is not going to look good, bro.
00:24:47 It's not going to come out right. You can't see it.
00:24:49 No, you know I would.
00:24:51 The video's online.
00:24:53 You as well. You and your wife
00:24:55 beating and all that stuff. We've already talked to you about it.
00:24:57 We've talked to you about it. The Bible
00:24:59 contradictions. The videos are there. Let me finish.
00:25:01 Let me finish. Let me finish.
00:25:03 Let me finish. Let me finish.
00:25:05 Look, I'm not here to talk to you today.
00:25:07 Okay, so you just want, let me explain, let me explain, I'm willing to listen, I want to say something to you, I appreciate it, but this is a discussion then, that's all I'm here for today, listen, you have your table, you have your table, go to your table, go to your table, because all you, so you go, you go do your da'wah, but you're not, you're not, I'll tell you why you're not, I'll tell you why you're not, because you came before, the videos are on our channel, you clipped them,
00:25:36 But it's okay
00:25:37 No, you clipped it
00:25:37 No, we put the entire video
00:25:39 No, you didn't
00:25:40 Why are you lying?
00:25:40 Look, look, look
00:25:40 The whole video is online
00:25:42 The whole video is on the channel
00:25:42 Anyway
00:25:42 Anyway
00:25:43 Even the Christian Anthony 0.97
00:25:45 That was with you guys there
00:25:47 Even he admitted
00:25:48 It's all on video
00:25:49 It's all on video
00:25:50 That you guys didn't let me speak
00:25:51 No, you lied about the corroborates
00:25:52 You didn't have a conversation
00:25:53 Of course I did not lie about the corroborates
00:25:54 So then why didn't you channel it?
00:25:55 It's all online
00:25:56 Why didn't you channel it?
00:25:57 It didn't take long
00:25:58 They told me this was going to happen
00:25:59 But now
00:26:00 We go from just trying to talk to people
00:26:02 About the word of God
00:26:03 To a religious holy war 0.94
00:26:05 And it's a waste of time for both sides because we're not going to like now it's getting
00:26:08 This dude told him the tripod up
00:26:11 We're not talking to anybody else like any of the non-believers. Now you just have two believers arguing about nothing 1.00
00:26:16 Well, I don't know why this guy doesn't just go to his own table to his own thing
00:26:21 He comes over here because Christians like Chris in the chat
00:26:24 That makes absolutely no sense that you can't just go to your own booth to start your own thing
00:26:27 They come over here to interrupt like we don't care. They we would never come over to their table
00:26:32 I have a question about the comforter.
00:26:34 I have a question about the comforter.
00:26:36 The kryptonite is here.
00:26:38 Okay, let me read that.
00:26:40 You see that?
00:26:42 Kryptonite. Kryptonite.
00:26:44 Kryptonite.
00:26:46 If you can answer the verse from the Bible,
00:26:48 I'll talk.
00:26:50 Okay, good.
00:26:52 Let's do it.
00:26:54 Can you watch out?
00:26:56 You can call anybody on.
00:26:58 He's your grown man.
00:27:00 Second king.
00:27:01 Can you excuse me?
00:27:02 What's up with you, bro?
00:27:03 Hold on.
00:27:04 This guy.
00:27:05 Can you step aside?
00:27:07 This is not so step aside.
00:27:08 All right.
00:27:09 Isaiah was 22 years old when he became king.
00:27:12 Now look at this.
00:27:13 No, but he's disturbing.
00:27:14 You're talking to me or he's talking to me?
00:27:16 I'm talking to you, but he's already disturbing.
00:27:18 Isaiah was 22 years old.
00:27:20 Now they want me to read the verse.
00:27:22 No, but Shay, you have somebody over there that's touching my stuff.
00:27:24 Look, look, I don't own these people.
00:27:26 This isn't slavery from the Bible.
00:27:28 he'll listen to you
00:27:29 he doesn't know you
00:27:31 that
00:27:31 he doesn't know you
00:27:31 he denied you
00:27:33 so can y'all
00:27:34 can y'all chill out man
00:27:35 you're a child afraid of
00:27:36 Isaiah
00:27:36 let me chill it man
00:27:38 come on
00:27:38 let's have a conversation
00:27:39 you've already refuted
00:27:40 so many times
00:27:40 Isaiah was 22 years old
00:27:43 when he became king
00:27:44 and he reigned one year
00:27:45 in Jerusalem
00:27:45 and then you know
00:27:47 in the same bible
00:27:48 you have him at 42
00:27:49 what's up with the
00:27:50 different ages
00:27:51 well the different ages
00:27:52 are talking about him
00:27:53 ruling at two different times
00:27:54 give me the
00:27:55 I'm about to end him 0.85
00:27:57 right now 0.91
00:27:57 yeah yeah
00:27:58 Ruling at different times you said, right?
00:28:00 Hold on, hold on a second. You bringing up some type of commentary or whatever, it doesn't mean anything.
00:28:05 Okay, now look at the line.
00:28:06 Wait, Uthman, are you talking to me or what?
00:28:08 You talking to me?
00:28:09 Okay, cool, because I already answered this when someone else brought this up.
00:28:11 You guys can all check out God-Logic Apologetics, go ahead and check out the channel.
00:28:15 You guys can see the answer when we was debunking Islam and debunking a Muslim who brought up this objection, and I answered it. 0.98
00:28:23 So, I posted the verses earlier.
00:28:25 The ruling of Ahaziah happened twice.
00:28:28 He ruled once when he was 22, got kidnapped by the Arabians and the Philistines, 1.00
00:28:35 and then he got freed and ruled again at 42.
00:28:38 It's as simple as that.
00:28:39 He only ruled one year, twice, because one, he was a co-ruler with his father
00:28:44 while his father was in his sickbed.
00:28:46 That's co-rulership.
00:28:47 That's when he began to rule, right?
00:28:48 The first time when he was 22.
00:28:50 Then he ruled again when he came back to Jerusalem, 0.61
00:28:53 when the people picked him as the king.
00:28:54 And I can show you the verses.
00:28:56 All right?
00:28:56 Are you good?
00:28:57 Now, now, now.
00:28:58 Wait, did you hear that?
00:28:59 Did you hear the answer?
00:28:59 I heard it.
00:28:59 I heard the whole thing.
00:29:00 What's the answer?
00:29:01 That he ruled twice.
00:29:01 Okay.
00:29:02 Once, when he was co-ruling.
00:29:03 I listened to you.
00:29:04 I'm not like you.
00:29:05 No, no, no.
00:29:06 I'm a better listener.
00:29:07 I'm the best listener.
00:29:07 Can I speak now?
00:29:08 Of course, go ahead.
00:29:08 Without being interrupted?
00:29:09 Go ahead.
00:29:10 Okay.
00:29:10 This is the book that this man brought.
00:29:13 Okay? 0.83
00:29:13 This is the hypocrisy that's going to get caught live right now.
00:29:16 this man and the videos on our channel and probably his channel right this man brought this
00:29:21 mccarthy study bible right i brought the bible yeah no no not the bible the mccarthy study bible
00:29:27 so what he brought it here to our tent to tell us this is the authoritative work that he answered
00:29:32 our questions from now you heard his answer me using me using no no no listen you see you see
00:29:38 this you see this you see him interrupt me now is he interrupting me is he interrupting me
00:29:42 Is he interrupting you?
00:29:44 He didn't say he was a better listener.
00:29:46 He didn't say he was a better listener.
00:29:48 He's not really listening.
00:29:50 Now, look, I listened to you.
00:29:52 I appreciate it.
00:29:54 Now, this man, and you can go check the One Message Foundation channel.
00:29:57 You can see the video when he came here to Balboa Park with this exact same book.
00:30:02 And he told me the answers for these are from here.
00:30:05 And when I questioned him, he told me this is the McCarthy Study Bible and this.
00:30:08 I got it and I bought it.
00:30:10 You heard his answer.
00:30:12 What does the MacArthur Study Bible say about Isaiah's reign?
00:30:15 Does it say there were two different times?
00:30:17 No.
00:30:17 It says this is a copyist error.
00:30:19 Wow.
00:30:21 Now, look at hypocrisy.
00:30:23 He brought this book.
00:30:24 He brought this book to us, right?
00:30:27 Wait, so the explanation is not that he ruled twice, but that it's a copyist error?
00:30:29 It is not. Read it.
00:30:30 42, this is a copyist error easily made due to the small strokes that differentiate two Hebrew letters.
00:30:36 That's what he said.
00:30:37 Oh, so you do know.
00:30:39 That's the book he brought.
00:30:41 I don't respond to that.
00:30:43 But that's the book he brought.
00:30:44 Now can I respond to this?
00:30:45 He asked you a question.
00:30:46 Can I respond to this question?
00:30:47 Let me finish.
00:30:48 Let me finish.
00:30:49 So I'll answer you after this.
00:30:51 So now, the hypocrisy cut live is this man brought this book, used this as a reference,
00:30:57 gave me reference to answer the contradictions from it,
00:31:00 and today when it clearly shows that his answer is not that of the McCarthy Study Bible,
00:31:07 definitely better red than him, right?
00:31:09 Now, he's gonna run from it.
00:31:11 He's gonna jump, he's caught on tape.
00:31:13 In fact, the NIV version, I believe,
00:31:16 and you can correct me if I'm wrong,
00:31:18 actually changed the age now.
00:31:20 What?
00:31:21 Because, oh, uh-oh.
00:31:23 Because they said this was an error.
00:31:26 So is it an error or he wrote twice?
00:31:27 Is that correct?
00:31:28 I'm waiting for him to finish.
00:31:29 Let me just ask you one question.
00:31:30 Wait, wait, he already asked the question,
00:31:32 you said I can answer this.
00:31:33 Is it an error or he wrote twice?
00:31:34 All right, beautiful.
00:31:35 So, notice how, let me respond to this,
00:31:37 Because it's all together.
00:31:37 Okay.
00:31:38 So he's posing this as if John MacArthur is my ultimate authority.
00:31:42 I used John MacArthur to answer a certain question.
00:31:45 And that doesn't mean that he's my authority on everything.
00:31:47 So to be fair, I did bring the MacArthur Study Bible.
00:31:51 I used it in one of the answers.
00:31:54 A couple, actually.
00:31:54 I actually used it twice.
00:31:55 But in my understanding, in fuller understanding, with this particular one, I used the Bible.
00:32:00 And I used Bible verses to answer this apparent objection.
00:32:05 So the Bible talks about how Ahaziah ruled twice, how he ruled joint with his father, right, in the book of Chronicles,
00:32:12 and how it talked about how he was kidnapped and taken and plundered.
00:32:16 So is there a contradiction in this book?
00:32:17 Let me finish.
00:32:18 Let me finish.
00:32:18 No, it's not a contradiction because it's talking about him ruling twice.
00:32:21 If he ruled once when he was 22, and then he ruled later on when he was 42, is that a contradiction?
00:32:25 But they said it's an error.
00:32:25 No, answer.
00:32:26 Is that a contradiction?
00:32:27 Well, I don't know, because it's an error.
00:32:28 No, the Bible doesn't say it's an error.
00:32:30 That's someone's opinion saying it's a textual variant.
00:32:32 Let me answer it.
00:32:33 No, I didn't.
00:32:33 No, no, let me...
00:32:34 I'm going to let you finish because I'm the better listener.
00:32:36 No problem.
00:32:37 So if the answer that I gave you, that in one particular context,
00:32:42 he rules once when he's 22, and the other one he rules later when he's 42,
00:32:46 is that a contradiction?
00:32:47 Sure, but the book you brought, you do not agree with that?
00:32:50 I don't agree with that.
00:32:52 That is a textual barrier.
00:32:53 I don't agree with that.
00:32:53 That's what I'm saying.
00:32:55 But you didn't answer my question.
00:32:57 If at one point he ruled at 22, and then later ruled at 42,
00:33:02 is that a contradiction?
00:33:03 Before you answer.
00:33:04 No, let him answer.
00:33:05 He is a grown man.
00:33:06 You can't tell him when to answer.
00:33:08 Let me ask you something.
00:33:09 He asked me a question.
00:33:10 He asked me a question.
00:33:11 Let me ask you a question.
00:33:14 Before you answer.
00:33:16 I thought that they were the better listeners.
00:33:18 I listened to you.
00:33:19 I didn't interrupt you.
00:33:21 But before he answers, I am going to tell my man something.
00:33:26 Niko, let me ask you something.
00:33:28 I listened to you.
00:33:29 Did I not listen?
00:33:30 You are interrupting right now.
00:33:31 I am not interrupting.
00:33:32 Why aren't you letting him answer?
00:33:33 Look, this is my friend as well.
00:33:34 So he asked me a question.
00:33:35 Yeah, hold on.
00:33:36 You asked me a question.
00:33:37 Did I answer?
00:33:37 You see that?
00:33:38 Not really.
00:33:38 I asked him if that was an error.
00:33:39 And what did I say?
00:33:41 You said that you don't agree with it.
00:33:42 Correct.
00:33:42 And what did I say my answer is?
00:33:44 I said that he ruled twice, right?
00:33:46 Yeah.
00:33:46 Okay, so I answered your question, and then I'm returning the question back to you.
00:33:48 I can't answer your question properly if we don't even establish that the book is correct or not.
00:33:51 No, no, no.
00:33:52 Because if you find a contradiction, then we can't agree with it.
00:33:54 No, no, no.
00:33:54 It has nothing to do with whether you believe if the book is established or not.
00:33:57 my question is very simple if let's say let's say if we take the book out of it let's say sneaker
00:34:02 you how old are you bro 24 you're 24 okay so let's say when did you start your youtube channel
00:34:07 14 14 let's say you let's say um um and uh one one one tech says that sneaker did a youtube video
00:34:15 when he was 14 right and then another tech said sneaker did a youtube video when he was 24 is
00:34:21 that a contradiction let me ask you before i believe let me ask you something bro let him
00:34:25 answer is that a contradiction is that a contradiction to what so what is that a
00:34:31 contradiction it does can you do a video at one point at one year and then do another video
00:34:37 uh in another year is that a i wouldn't say that i stopped i wouldn't say that i started youtube
00:34:42 twice i'm not saying thank you for tenure my i would never write that i did it twice because
00:34:47 i'm still but you did but you did do a video twice i never lost my title
00:34:49 But you did a video twice, right?
00:34:51 Listen, let's do any videos different than you're Nico.
00:34:53 Hold on.
00:34:55 He answered already.
00:34:57 He said that's my answer.
00:34:59 He said that's my answer. Now let me talk to you.
00:35:01 If you were on YouTube for one year...
00:35:03 He did not answer if that's a contradiction.
00:35:05 Listen, if you were on YouTube for one year, and then you deleted your account, and then you were on YouTube for four years, how many years were on YouTube?
00:35:11 For five years.
00:35:13 Now, look at this.
00:35:15 Isaiah...
00:35:16 He wrote for one year.
00:35:17 Don't interrupt.
00:35:18 He was 22 years old when he became king, and he reigned for one year in Jerusalem.
00:35:24 Only one year, right?
00:35:26 Now, in the same Bible, when you go to the next one, you see the interruption?
00:35:31 You see who's a better listener?
00:35:33 You see who's a better listener?
00:35:34 You really interrupted me the whole time.
00:35:35 Is he interrupting me or not?
00:35:36 Now, here it says when he was 42 when he rules, but he only ruled for one year.
00:35:41 So that means his reign, no, it does not say twice.
00:35:44 He's adding that.
00:35:45 It's only one year.
00:35:46 It's only one year in two different ages.
00:35:49 Now, ask him in the NIV version, did they change this or not?
00:35:52 Okay.
00:35:53 No, so no, you're going to...
00:35:54 Did they change it or not?
00:35:55 Did they change it or not?
00:35:55 No, you're going to tell him my question.
00:35:57 Go ahead.
00:35:57 You see, you can't answer it.
00:35:58 Hold on, hold on.
00:35:59 You can't answer it.
00:36:00 So, why did they change it?
00:36:01 Do you know what a contradiction is?
00:36:03 Hold on, one second.
00:36:03 Do you know what a contradiction is?
00:36:06 Yes.
00:36:06 Define contradiction.
00:36:07 Two things that cannot be true at the same time.
00:36:08 Beautiful.
00:36:09 Thank you.
00:36:09 Now, answer this question for me.
00:36:11 Can it be?
00:36:11 You see, you're not answering the NIV question.
00:36:12 No, because we're dealing with the so-called contradiction.
00:36:14 Jump, jump, jump. 0.90
00:36:15 Don't run, Uthman.
00:36:16 Running, I'm standing right here.
00:36:17 I asked a question, you can't answer.
00:36:20 So, stand to those down.
00:36:21 So, okay, cool.
00:36:23 So, if somebody's ruling at 22, and they only rule for one year because an invasion happens.
00:36:28 Okay.
00:36:29 And so, you're saying that it's impossible for 20 years later for him to return to the city and then become king again and rule for one year?
00:36:36 Want me to answer?
00:36:36 Is that a contradiction?
00:36:37 Do you want me to answer?
00:36:37 Do you understand the question?
00:36:39 I do.
00:36:39 Okay, is that a contradiction?
00:36:40 Do you want me to answer?
00:36:41 Go ahead.
00:36:41 Okay, I want to hear.
00:36:42 if somebody ruled that you see that yes or no you see that it's somebody ruled that at one year at
00:36:49 22 and then he came back and ruled another year i would say he ruled for two years no that's because
00:36:54 i can add unfortunately these guys can't add if tico had a channel and he did one year and he
00:37:00 deleted it and then he started again i would say he's been on youtube for five years because this
00:37:06 is the the total amount if somebody ruled for one year and they were taken out and they ruled again
00:37:11 for a year, then you would say he ruled for two years. Now, now, my question, why did the
00:37:18 NIV version take that age of 42 out? Because they think it's a textual variant. And you
00:37:26 are the one, you are the one that said the NIV version. Now, now, listen, listen, listen,
00:37:32 I'm not done speaking. I'm not done speaking. I'm not done speaking. I'm not done speaking.
00:37:38 Wait, but you just finished your mic and you asked the question.
00:37:40 I'm not done speaking.
00:37:41 But you asked me the question.
00:37:41 I am not done speaking.
00:37:42 But you asked me the question.
00:37:43 I did not.
00:37:44 Yes, you did.
00:37:45 You literally just said, so then why did they change it in the NIV?
00:37:47 And I answered you.
00:37:48 You are the one that came to our table and said the NIV version is the best.
00:37:53 No, I never did it.
00:37:54 You did.
00:37:54 It's on video.
00:37:55 Oh, where?
00:37:55 It's on video.
00:37:56 On our channel.
00:37:57 NIV.
00:37:58 Okay, hold on.
00:37:58 Time out.
00:37:59 So on your video, I want you to pull up the clip where I brought it and I said the NIV.
00:38:05 Let me finish.
00:38:06 Okay.
00:38:06 Where I said the NIV is the best version.
00:38:08 You said that's what you used.
00:38:09 Pause, pause, pause.
00:38:09 Right?
00:38:10 Right?
00:38:11 Right?
00:38:12 No, I never said that.
00:38:12 Run, run, run.
00:38:13 Okay, if we find a clip from you praising NIV, then?
00:38:17 Then?
00:38:18 What do you want?
00:38:18 Then?
00:38:19 What do you want?
00:38:19 Then admit that you lied.
00:38:20 I will.
00:38:21 You admit that you lied.
00:38:22 I will.
00:38:22 Okay.
00:38:23 Now, when you can't find the clip, will you admit that you lied?
00:38:25 Sure.
00:38:26 On camera.
00:38:26 On camera.
00:38:27 On your channel.
00:38:27 On my channel.
00:38:28 All right, beautiful.
00:38:29 And if we find you, we'll shake on it.
00:38:30 Okay, cool.
00:38:30 And so if we find your NIV clip, and you praise NIV.
00:38:33 And I said NIV, yes.
00:38:34 Right?
00:38:35 And then we find that NIV changed the dates knowing it's an error, as your McCarthy Bible said as well.
00:38:42 An error is a textual error.
00:38:44 It's an error.
00:38:45 Put it in the chat so I can put it away.
00:38:46 So can I?
00:38:47 So not that.
00:38:47 Anyway.
00:38:48 No, you respond.
00:38:49 We have to leave.
00:38:51 Oh, no.
00:38:51 No.
00:38:52 Yeah, yeah.
00:38:53 Whoa.
00:38:54 We're here to give power to people.
00:38:56 No, but no, but he just said that he's going to talk and I'm going to listen to you.
00:38:59 I already did listen to you.
00:39:00 But now he's about to run away.
00:39:01 No, no, no, no, no.
00:39:02 Now he's like, this is the tactic of Ufman all day, every day.
00:39:05 This is the tactic of Ufman.
00:39:08 Let this man know.
00:39:09 So can I respond to what you said?
00:39:10 Let me finish.
00:39:11 No, I did.
00:39:12 Look, we already said.
00:39:13 So can I respond to what you said?
00:39:14 We're going to find your clip.
00:39:15 Because I want to show you the straw man.
00:39:16 And we're going to post it.
00:39:16 No, but you, thank you.
00:39:18 All right, here we go.
00:39:19 Here we go.
00:39:20 Hey, they can't move.
00:39:21 They're too short.
00:39:22 They can't see, okay?
00:39:23 Whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:39:23 So here we go.
00:39:24 So look.
00:39:25 So let me show you the straw man and what he did.
00:39:26 Listen to the example.
00:39:27 The example that he gave is, he said,
00:39:29 If I said that he was ruling as king one year, and then he ruled, I mentioned another year that he ruled,
00:39:37 then that's, in total, he ruled a cumulative of that gap.
00:39:41 That's what he's saying.
00:39:42 I'm saying that no, according to the text, his rule stopped twice.
00:39:47 He stopped ruling at 22, and then he ruled again.
00:39:51 It's not that he ruled at 22 and then continued until he was 42.
00:39:54 No, he ruled at 22.
00:39:56 Let me finish, let me finish.
00:39:57 he ruled at 22 the arabians and the philistines invaded jerusalem kidnapped him for 20 years he
00:40:04 was gone not the king anymore he came back at 42 they made him king again and he ruled only one
00:40:10 year that year because he was sinful to god that's two years no that's two years total his reign
00:40:16 let me finish look listen i listen to you right i'm listening thank you i'm listening so if you're
00:40:20 trying to say then in all his in all his life he ruled two years sure no problem but that's not
00:40:26 what the text is talking about the text is talking about specifically when he started to rule at the
00:40:31 particular age that he started to rule okay so that's the straw man that you did i hope that
00:40:35 you understand when you look i'm respectfully beautiful he continued to respectfully listen
00:40:40 so before you bring a straw man analogy when you bring an analogy make sure it matches with the
00:40:46 actual uh situation all right so i answered your question now you know i need to answer what you
00:40:53 No, wait, hold on.
00:40:53 No, no, no, hold on.
00:40:54 I still have something to say.
00:40:55 Hold on.
00:40:55 I'm not done.
00:40:56 I'll let you go.
00:40:56 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:40:57 You're done with that.
00:40:58 I'm going to let you go on to that.
00:40:59 No, I'm not done with this yet.
00:41:00 You're not going to jump from the subject.
00:41:01 No, no, I'm not.
00:41:01 I'm not jumping, right?
00:41:02 But you said, you said, if I can answer this, which I did, that you will answer my question.
00:41:06 You guys was wooing and oohing off of a textual variant that some people believe.
00:41:11 So if you believe in textual variants that disprove the Bible, then you have to explain
00:41:15 for us the textual variants that you still haven't translated.
00:41:18 I want you to tell me, first of all, in chapter 37, verse 12, who is it that's surprised?
00:41:23 Is it Muhammad that's surprised or is it Allah who's surprised? 1.00
00:41:26 Chapter 37, verse 12.
00:41:27 Go ahead.
00:41:28 I want you to answer that.
00:41:29 Now, you noticed I told you you're not going to jump.
00:41:31 No, you told me that once I answered you, we'll change the subject.
00:41:33 That's exactly what he did.
00:41:34 You promised once I answered you, we could change.
00:41:37 You haven't answered.
00:41:38 You put something forward.
00:41:39 If you don't like my answer, that's on you.
00:41:40 No, no, no.
00:41:41 It's not, it's not.
00:41:42 A little hoppy.
00:41:42 He is often, right?
00:41:43 I actually answered the question.
00:41:44 He is often.
00:41:45 He is often, right?
00:41:46 He did say if you answer this question, I'll answer yours, right?
00:41:48 Did he say that?
00:41:49 Let me finish.
00:41:50 Sligo, did he say that?
00:41:51 Be honest, bro.
00:41:52 Yeah, yeah.
00:41:53 Okay, thank you.
00:41:53 So we're gonna see if you're lying or not.
00:41:55 Relax, relax.
00:41:56 We're chillin', we're chillin'.
00:41:57 Now, let's go.
00:41:58 So I hope you answer the question.
00:41:59 I got you, bro, relax.
00:42:01 Now, first thing is that this man came out
00:42:06 and gave an explanation that clearly people better-
00:42:09 That's different from-
00:42:09 Oh, you see that interruption?
00:42:11 You see that interruption or not?
00:42:12 You interrupted me the whole time.
00:42:13 Is he a great listener?
00:42:14 Is he a better listener?
00:42:15 You interrupted me the whole time.
00:42:16 He was respectfully listening.
00:42:17 That's, you're biased right now.
00:42:18 Oh, now you're going to play the bias card.
00:42:20 You're a bias card.
00:42:21 Right?
00:42:21 Because, you know.
00:42:22 He was respectfully listening.
00:42:23 Well, I thought you were going to do this.
00:42:23 Lucky we gave you any time to do this.
00:42:25 You have nothing to say.
00:42:26 You have no authority here.
00:42:27 That's fine.
00:42:27 Keep continuing.
00:42:28 Whoa, whoa, easy there, guys.
00:42:29 All right, now, what I made clear is him trying to jump from the subject.
00:42:37 And I told him he's going to jump, and that's exactly what he did, right?
00:42:40 We said, okay, if we find the clip of him praising an IV, and inshallah, we will, and 0.86
00:42:45 we post that, he's going to admit to being a liar, inshallah.
00:42:47 Don't say inshallah.
00:42:47 That never happens.
00:42:48 Because I always say Inshallah, that is not true.
00:42:51 Now, once again, now, the answer that he, you don't even know, we don't say we'll lie before something in the future.
00:42:58 You should say, I swear.
00:43:00 Now, let's go back, let's go back.
00:43:01 Now, what he jumped with is the fact that the great Christian scholars that he brought as an authority, which the videos are online, disagree with him.
00:43:13 In fact, in the NIV, we will find our praise, but even if you don't, the NIV clearly said that this was...
00:43:20 Oh, even if you don't now, you're getting nervous about it?
00:43:21 We will, we will.
00:43:22 So don't try to plug that in.
00:43:23 You see him interrupt?
00:43:24 You're going to find it, right?
00:43:25 You see him interrupt?
00:43:26 Respectfully to make it short.
00:43:27 No, no, I'm not going to let him escape from stuff.
00:43:29 I'm speaking, right?
00:43:30 I know how to handle it.
00:43:31 Now, a lot of people don't.
00:43:32 You think you do, right?
00:43:34 Now, when you look at the variant, Christian scholars who updated the Bible said that this story is not true.
00:43:42 They said this was a copy of Sarah in fact
00:43:45 And I can prove that
00:43:46 Because there are manuscripts
00:43:48 There are manuscripts
00:43:50 In Greek that mention 22 on both
00:43:52 That is the nail
00:43:54 So if
00:43:55 Now you see
00:43:56 Now he's saying it's a variant
00:43:59 You hear that now?
00:44:00 Now it's not that he ruled at two ages
00:44:01 Now you've got a variant
00:44:03 Are there manuscripts that mention 22 for both ages?
00:44:09 I'm not sure
00:44:09 Oh no you're not sure
00:44:11 I'm not sure.
00:44:12 I know about English translations.
00:44:13 Oh, come on. 0.87
00:44:14 I honestly don't know.
00:44:14 If you're saying there's variants, then you're sure.
00:44:16 No, I know.
00:44:18 Earlier he said it's a variant.
00:44:19 Now he's not sure.
00:44:20 No, this is what he asked.
00:44:21 He asked, are there manuscripts that in both verses, in the same manuscript, mention the
00:44:27 same age?
00:44:27 I don't know that.
00:44:28 I just know that in one manuscript, it'll say 22.
00:44:31 In another manuscript, it says 22.
00:44:32 Have you read the NIV?
00:44:33 That's what I know.
00:44:34 Have you read the NIV?
00:44:34 I don't know if it's the same manuscript.
00:44:35 Have you read the NIV?
00:44:37 Not in this verse.
00:44:40 Have you read the NIV verse of the Bible?
00:44:41 In some verses
00:44:42 Okay, okay, people lie
00:44:44 People lie
00:44:44 Pull up the NIV version
00:44:46 What's the problem?
00:44:47 Someone put the link in the chat
00:44:48 Pull it up
00:44:48 I have no problem
00:44:50 Are you going to answer the question?
00:44:51 I am
00:44:51 Okay, cool
00:44:52 See, you ran
00:44:53 I didn't
00:44:53 And you got caught now
00:44:54 And that's why you're nervous
00:44:55 You got caught in what?
00:44:56 You got caught in a lie right now
00:44:57 What lie?
00:44:58 I'll prove it
00:44:59 Pull up NIV
00:45:00 You said
00:45:00 Pull up NIV
00:45:01 You said a manuscript
00:45:02 Pull up NIV
00:45:03 But you said a manuscript
00:45:04 Pull up NIV
00:45:05 No, it's fine
00:45:06 Here and there
00:45:07 I'm on subject
00:45:08 He's fine
00:45:09 NIV Bible, what verse?
00:45:10 What is it?
00:45:12 Isaiah?
00:45:13 1st Kings, right?
00:45:14 822
00:45:15 1st Kings 822
00:45:16 You guys are gonna pay to be here?
00:45:18 Do you?
00:45:19 No
00:45:20 No, I don't
00:45:21 Right
00:45:22 You don't have a Patreon?
00:45:23 You over here streaming and stuff
00:45:25 I'm not getting paid to be here, I choose to be here
00:45:27 Okay, me too
00:45:28 Are you getting paid to be here?
00:45:29 No, are you?
00:45:30 You have a Patreon?
00:45:31 Yeah, I do
00:45:32 Yeah, so Patreon is for what?
00:45:34 For people who love the match they want to support
00:45:36 People who want to pay for you to be here
00:45:38 I don't have a Patreon.
00:45:39 I don't make a single penny off YouTube.
00:45:41 That's a lie.
00:45:42 You do.
00:45:42 What?
00:45:43 You know you make money.
00:45:45 I said,
00:45:45 I've never taken a penny.
00:45:46 Don't change the subject.
00:45:47 I said,
00:45:47 I've never taken a penny.
00:45:48 Don't change the subject.
00:45:49 He just said,
00:45:49 you know you take a penny.
00:45:50 Don't try to act like you don't make money.
00:45:51 Don't lie.
00:45:52 He doesn't make,
00:45:52 I haven't taken a penny.
00:45:54 Don't try to act like you don't make money from.
00:45:55 Do I get paid a penny?
00:45:57 Do I get paid?
00:45:58 They can say all this you want.
00:45:59 They can say all this you want.
00:46:00 Stay focused.
00:46:00 Now your lie has been cut again.
00:46:02 Oh, why?
00:46:03 Because people,
00:46:03 Did he not just say it?
00:46:04 Because you're biased, people say that.
00:46:04 Did he not?
00:46:05 Oh, so the fact that I don't get paid.
00:46:07 Bro, you're running.
00:46:08 Look, we'll run.
00:46:09 You're running.
00:46:09 Okay, look, look.
00:46:10 You're running.
00:46:10 Stay on subject.
00:46:11 Second lie.
00:46:12 Second lie.
00:46:13 You're running.
00:46:13 We'll pull all my taxes.
00:46:16 You're running.
00:46:16 And see who they pay.
00:46:17 And if I'm not on it, is he a liar?
00:46:19 Could you get to the subject?
00:46:20 No, no, no, no, it's not.
00:46:22 Lying a little?
00:46:22 You're not, you're not.
00:46:23 Look, if I show you all my taxes.
00:46:25 Dude, stay on topic.
00:46:26 And I don't get paid, is he a liar?
00:46:27 This dude is hilarious, bro. 0.95
00:46:28 Is he a liar?
00:46:29 He said grants and stuff like that.
00:46:30 People give him money.
00:46:32 People offer him stuff.
00:46:32 Nobody gives me money.
00:46:34 I never take a single penny from OMF.
00:46:37 Okay.
00:46:37 He said I'm a liar, right? 0.91
00:46:39 He said I'm a liar. 0.68
00:46:40 Okay.
00:46:40 Well, Lice, Nico, tonight, I'm going to poke OMF taxes.
00:46:43 If you don't, you don't.
00:46:43 He just said I'm a liar, and he said that I do get paid, and now that he's caught, now
00:46:48 that he's caught, he said I do get paid, but I don't.
00:46:50 That's a lie.
00:46:52 Now you're running from that.
00:46:53 He's running.
00:46:53 He's running.
00:46:54 He's running.
00:46:55 He's running from the same thing he's getting paid.
00:46:56 I'm under-focused.
00:46:56 He's running.
00:46:57 Okay.
00:46:57 Okay, NIV Bible Chapter 1.
00:46:59 So what are you proving here?
00:47:01 22.
00:47:03 22.
00:47:05 What are you proving here?
00:47:07 Isaiah was 22 years old when he became king.
00:47:09 What are you proving here though?
00:47:11 He reigned in Jerusalem one year.
00:47:13 What's the point here?
00:47:15 I got the other one.
00:47:17 Can you tell us the point?
00:47:19 He was 42 years old when he became king.
00:47:21 In NIV, what does it say?
00:47:23 22.
00:47:25 there is no contradiction in the bible
00:47:29 you said you've never read it
00:47:31 this is kings
00:47:33 this is chronicles
00:47:35 it says 22 both times
00:47:36 remember he hasn't read it
00:47:40 he hasn't read it
00:47:40 now read it
00:47:41 first it went two years
00:47:44 what are you proving
00:47:49 now why
00:47:50 does niv
00:47:51 change it to 22 from 42
00:47:54 They believe it's a textual variant there, so they're going with the other variant.
00:47:56 Thank you.
00:47:57 So that means, in this Bible, there was an error in the age.
00:48:02 They found it to be an error.
00:48:03 They changed it.
00:48:04 It's interrupting.
00:48:05 But you interrupted me the whole time.
00:48:07 Did I interrupt him speaking?
00:48:08 Look, I listened to him, right?
00:48:10 Now, the lie that's taught is NIV shows that their research, that this was an error.
00:48:17 But you said I used the NIV.
00:48:18 You do use the NIV.
00:48:19 We'll get the video for it.
00:48:20 You're lying.
00:48:21 We'll get the video.
00:48:22 right now he mentioned here 42 right and he said he ruled twice niv and mccarthy they all said
00:48:29 that this was a copious error in the bible and they even changed it because they said he didn't
00:48:33 rule twice this was a clear error in fact if you look at the commentaries on the niv and and i have
00:48:39 some at home that i can bring for you if you haven't read them right they say that no doubt
00:48:44 this was a copious error as well no doubt i'll bring them to you don't worry right now now
00:48:50 This is the study Bible you brought, right?
00:48:52 The ESV show.
00:48:53 You brought this one, and it's also saying it's a copy of Sarah.
00:48:57 So what's your authority?
00:48:59 The scripture.
00:49:01 So what I'm saying is that when he asked me a particular question,
00:49:04 Why did he bring this as an authority?
00:49:05 When he asked me a particular question,
00:49:06 Why did he bring this as an answer?
00:49:08 I'm letting you know.
00:49:09 When he brought up a particular question,
00:49:11 I used the NIV study Bible to use an answer that I agreed with 1.00
00:49:14 because it was in line with the scripture.
00:49:16 Which study Bible?
00:49:16 The ESV study Bible.
00:49:17 Oh, he just said NIV.
00:49:19 I never said NIV.
00:49:19 Wallahi, he just said an IV
00:49:21 He said an IV
00:49:22 Wallahi, everybody in the chat
00:49:24 Did he not say an IV?
00:49:26 He said an IV
00:49:26 Chat, chat, did he not say an IV?
00:49:29 Did he say an IV or no?
00:49:31 Chat, is this panic?
00:49:33 This is victory mode
00:49:34 He just lied, lied
00:49:36 Did he say an IV?
00:49:39 Christians, did he say an IV?
00:49:41 So, Sneeko
00:49:42 So I used the study Bible
00:49:44 Because there was a particular question that he asked
00:49:47 That I agreed with that it was in line with the scripture
00:49:49 Right here, what this textual variant that they're saying is a copyist error, I don't agree with
00:49:54 because there's a scriptural answer regarding this particular apparent objection.
00:49:58 So what book is your authority?
00:50:00 The Bible.
00:50:01 Wait, do you know better than the makers of the narrative?
00:50:02 So my point is, he has not been able to refute the answer about Ahaziah ruling at 22 and then ruling at 42.
00:50:12 The only thing that he's done is, well, in this Bible it says this, or in this Bible it says this.
00:50:17 but he has not been able to answer the explanation that i gave with the scripture that's my point
00:50:23 so we've dealt with this explanation that it's an error no my explanation is that he ruled twice
00:50:27 once at 22 got kidnapped by the philistines and arabians so you disagree with the book that you
00:50:31 i disagree with their explanation okay there you go there we can leave it at that i said that in
00:50:37 the beginning i think that's why a lot of people resonate with islam because we don't disagree with
00:50:41 the scripture oh we'll see we'll see in a second all right so no you said you're gonna answer
00:50:44 You said you were going to answer.
00:50:46 Alright, so who was surprised?
00:50:48 He disagrees with NIV too.
00:50:50 He disagrees with NIV too.
00:50:52 Who does? You. 0.91
00:50:54 When it comes to that, yeah.
00:50:56 He disagrees with NIV.
00:50:58 We cannot disagree with the Quran. 0.86
00:51:00 We'll see which one you mean.
00:51:02 Because I'm about to show you that you disagree with the Quran.
00:51:04 No, no, you got it.
00:51:06 Do you have the Arabic?
00:51:08 Bring the Arabic, get the Arabic Quran. 0.95
00:51:10 Get your hops or the wash or whatever one you use.
00:51:12 we did the original
00:51:15 we don't need the
00:51:16 Anthony, focus the
00:51:18 chapter 37 verse 12
00:51:24 we're saying you said NIV 0.80
00:51:28 see, lying cop 0.83
00:51:31 he can care less about lying 0.97
00:51:32 I said he is
00:51:33 and if I did say NIV
00:51:36 now he's changing
00:51:38 no, I'm just saying
00:51:39 but if I did, I misspoke
00:51:41 I have no problem admitting if I made a mistake
00:51:44 No, earlier you said you didn't
00:51:46 I know I did
00:51:47 But if I did, I misspoke
00:51:48 You ready?
00:51:52 Can you read it in Arabic?
00:51:55 It's a kassra 0.99
00:51:58 It's a kassra 0.99
00:52:01 Yeah, it's a kassra 0.99
00:52:05 Everybody, read it
00:52:06 It is not a jabta
00:52:08 Does anybody speak Arabic here?
00:52:10 Ajib. 0.88
00:52:11 Thank you.
00:52:12 You said Ajib.
00:52:13 No, Ajib.
00:52:14 Ajib. 0.88
00:52:15 You're saying it wrong, bro.
00:52:16 You're saying it wrong.
00:52:17 Okay, so we're going to see here.
00:52:18 We're going to see here.
00:52:19 So what does it say?
00:52:20 What does it say?
00:52:21 No, watch this, watch this.
00:52:22 You'll see.
00:52:23 Ajib. 0.88
00:52:24 Go ahead.
00:52:25 What does it say?
00:52:26 What's the translation?
00:52:27 Yes, Khurun.
00:52:29 What does that mean?
00:52:31 What does it mean?
00:52:32 We don't speak right there.
00:52:33 In fact, you are astonished by their denial.
00:52:35 Who was astonished?
00:52:36 While they ridiculed you.
00:52:37 Alright, who was astonished?
00:52:38 The Prophet Muhammad was astonished.
00:52:39 Muhammad was a style. Now you go to the Hamza Quran, same birth, or the Kalib. Hamza or Kalib, whatever you want to call it. 0.99
00:52:46 Show it to him. Yeah, I'll show it to you. And that one, it says something different.
00:52:50 Okay, let's see it. All right, let's show you. What's the Hamza Quran? 0.96
00:52:53 What's the Hamza Quran? You don't know what the Hamza Quran is? You don't know what the color? 0.66
00:52:56 What is it called? Kalib? You don't even know what it is. What about Al-Qasai?
00:53:00 Hamza has a Quran? Uh-huh. Hamza, Al-Fan, Hamza. Yes.
00:53:03 And all these are recitations, they're not Quran. They're not Quran.
00:53:07 We'll see. And Hafsah is a recitation, right?
00:53:09 Yes, of course.
00:53:10 Okay, so we're talking about all these recitations of the Quran.
00:53:12 We're about to see if they're the same thing.
00:53:14 I'm about to.
00:53:15 I'm about to.
00:53:16 Got you.
00:53:18 What's all that?
00:53:19 Yeah, yeah.
00:53:25 Here you go.
00:53:28 The color codes the...
00:53:29 Bal Ajeb?
00:53:31 Bal Ajeb, two.
00:53:33 It's the same, again.
00:53:35 One is top, one is two.
00:53:37 Now, check this out. 0.83
00:53:38 This is where their ignorance gets caught. 0.91
00:53:40 Oh, we'll see. 0.96
00:53:41 Right?
00:53:41 Now, what is the difference?
00:53:44 It is the harakat.
00:53:45 And what are they changing?
00:53:46 Hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:53:47 Hold on, hold on.
00:53:48 Now, this is where you're going to see them get buried.
00:53:51 Now, watch, just watch, okay?
00:53:53 In the mushaf that I showed you at home,
00:53:55 in the original mushaf, were there these lines?
00:53:57 No.
00:53:59 There were no diacritical marks,
00:54:00 so how do you know which one it is?
00:54:01 Let me finish.
00:54:02 No, but you're talking to me.
00:54:03 Let me finish.
00:54:03 I can't remember.
00:54:04 Okay.
00:54:05 Tonight, inshallah
00:54:06 Tonight, I'll show it to you
00:54:09 So you showed him one with no
00:54:11 This is a conversation
00:54:13 Now you tell me who's interrupting who
00:54:15 I thought you were the better
00:54:16 Now I'm doing it the same way
00:54:18 Now, who's the one
00:54:20 Did you show him the one with no marks?
00:54:23 Yes
00:54:23 Okay, good, so how do you know how to read it?
00:54:25 I got you
00:54:26 Now, let me finish
00:54:27 Please answer, how do you know how to read it?
00:54:30 You see this?
00:54:30 He's answering
00:54:31 I'm listening, watch him not answer
00:54:33 100% I'm answering
00:54:35 Just let them be quiet, okay?
00:54:37 Now, what the mistake they made is the fact that the...
00:54:40 A mistake?
00:54:41 Oh, ya Allah, sneak up, come on. 0.99
00:54:42 He said a mistake?
00:54:43 Let him finish, what are you saying?
00:54:44 Wait, hold on, he said the mistake they made.
00:54:45 You made.
00:54:47 Oh, we'll see.
00:54:47 You made.
00:54:48 Okay, all right, we'll see, go ahead.
00:54:49 We'll see.
00:54:49 He's a better listener.
00:54:51 Go ahead.
00:54:51 He's a better listener, you know?
00:54:52 We'll see.
00:54:53 Yeah, we'll see.
00:54:54 Now, is the Mus'haf Qutman radiallahu anhu, the original Mus'haf has no dietary marks.
00:55:00 It has no dots.
00:55:02 And I'll show it to you tonight again, inshaAllah, okay?
00:55:04 He's telling the truth finally.
00:55:05 All right, alhamdulillah.
00:55:06 Alhamdulillah.
00:55:06 Now, when you have, for example,
00:55:09 ta, tu, ti, these are I'raab.
00:55:13 Okay?
00:55:14 Now, as, for example, in South Africa,
00:55:17 now let me finish, he's not going to finish, right?
00:55:19 Now let me finish.
00:55:19 In South Africa, when they ask you, how are you?
00:55:22 They say, how is the brother?
00:55:23 They're talking to you, but they say, how is the brother?
00:55:27 Okay?
00:55:27 Now.
00:55:34 Thank you.
00:56:04 Thank you.
00:56:34 Thank you.
00:57:04 Thank you.
00:57:34 Thank you.
00:58:04 Thank you.