SNEAKO - SNEAKO Debates a Feminist Hater

00:00:00.000 okay so i heard from my friend will lead shout out to lead that you you disagree you think i'm

00:00:03.840 uh a misogynist i would like to and apparently you've had extensive conversations with them

00:00:08.880 about it so i was curious to what that debate was and uh the back and forth and everything

00:00:15.280 so but first off what's your name hi i'm rose hi rose um obviously i know who you are but um i

00:00:27.920 I, instead of the conversation I had to go lead, like, I'd rather just, just tell you,

00:00:33.660 like, how I feel. So I really don't know why you do this. I'm going to be honest with you. Like,

00:00:39.920 I don't know, like, I actually saw some of your, like, older content. Um, you kind of just popped

00:00:45.680 up on my timeline once and I was like, whoa, that's aggressive. Like, just some of the things

00:00:50.740 that you were saying, I was like, that's kind of aggressive. So I just like, when it's kind of

00:00:53.820 like a deep dive on you and I kind of really want to know where like you develop some of your

00:01:00.260 opinions on women is it like personal experience is it well first I have to establish what opinions

00:01:06.360 do I have about women that you disagree with um okay so can I ask you some questions and then you

00:01:13.000 tell me your opinion sure okay so do you believe that um the rise in like political clout uh

00:01:24.280 socioeconomic clout socioeconomic power status that women are getting in society is harming 1.00

00:01:28.620 society yes why do you think that because we are telling women to chase ego and to try to act like 1.00

00:01:36.660 men so that they can feel the same amount of power and it's not something that they inherently want

00:01:40.980 to do. Feminism is this idea that's being sold to young women that promotes female empowerment 1.00

00:01:47.280 and it turns women into men and it actually makes men weaker. I'm sure you could also see the rise 0.95

00:01:53.900 of effeminate men, feminine men walking around, soy boys that we like to call them. It's switching 0.99

00:02:00.820 the genders and we're trying to act like men and women aren't equal. We're trying to act like men 1.00

00:02:07.400 and women are equal when uh we are very clearly different we have different roles so feminism is 1.00

00:02:12.780 like the female empowerment thing it's a bunch of nonsense there's no laws there's no rights 1.00

00:02:19.220 in the west that men have that women don't on paper right what yeah if what do you mean that

00:02:28.980 there's rights off paper that women need no i'm saying like yeah on paper there is equality of

00:02:37.240 genders on paper, right? But in execution, the way that it's kind of executed in society,

00:02:42.900 it's a little different. Like what? And just getting away from the statistics,

00:02:49.200 let's just go just based on personal experience, right? So I grew up in a patriarchal kind of

00:02:55.700 family structure. Everybody did. Right. And in that sense, specifically just from my background

00:03:03.460 I'm being an immigrant I seen so many women in my family actually be kind of negatively impacted

00:03:11.240 mentally with their self-esteem just based off of their position their role that they have to play

00:03:17.860 based on the gender roles that are in this society and it's not only that it's also well okay let's

00:03:24.340 just let's just talk about personal experience but still you're kind of avoiding the general 0.98

00:03:29.420 subject feminism is a bunch of bullshit and there are no rights that women don't have that men have 1.00

00:03:35.900 in the west yes yes feminism as a whole globally is very important and we're still doing the work 0.99

00:03:46.020 um sure but you're not you're you live in the west yeah but listen if we're specifically

00:03:50.660 speaking about the west um which feminism as we know it today we're not talking about the suffrage

00:03:57.880 movement which is also like a part of feminism where women were trying to gain the right to vote 1.00

00:04:01.040 we're not talking about 100 years old that's what i'm saying we're not talking about that

00:04:04.920 we're talking about new age feminism is you so your gripe is with new age feminism 0.97

00:04:09.260 so modern day new age feminism there are parts of it that have kind of been bastardized i would 1.00

00:04:15.560 agree with you in that like um like sexual liberation there's uh sex of different types

00:04:22.040 of feminists that say like is sexual liberation really liberation for women right and that's a 1.00

00:04:27.120 big question that's up in there when me personally I am of the opinion that it's per the person it's

00:04:31.660 depending on the person but regardless of the fact back to what you said about like people

00:04:37.480 encouraging women to be more like men I don't personally believe that that is the goal I don't 0.86

00:04:43.740 think that we're trying to encourage women to be more like men I think we are encouraging women to

00:04:49.020 gain identities outside of interpersonal relationships with men right so do you think

00:04:54.940 that a young girl should be her only focus should be trying to find a man to be domesticated to 1.00

00:05:02.300 is that do you think that that's number one objective should be to find a good man yes

00:05:08.160 and what she can do how she could put herself in the right positions to be with the man

00:05:12.540 that her father would be proud of okay so let's just go down that line of reasoning right

00:05:18.920 yeah okay so so does that mean to suck if she has to sacrifice her education would you think 1.00

00:05:28.460 that she has she should sacrifice her education no well it depends what scenario you're going

00:05:35.580 you're going too specific with the hypotheticals i want to to argue something more general like

00:05:41.200 something this is extremely specific i can tell that you're thinking a lot about like personal

00:05:45.700 experiences you probably thought like oh my friend was said not to go back to school or anything

00:05:49.220 but no let's go let's go more general do you think i'm a misogynist

00:05:53.880 the answers that you've given me so far and i'm gonna go based off what the answers that you're

00:06:00.980 giving me in this live stream all right because maybe i'm taking the other clips that i've seen

00:06:04.320 online out of context but from what you're saying it does sound inherently misogynistic

00:06:12.600 what did i say that was misogynistic that with that a woman's main objective in life 0.99

00:06:19.300 should be to find a man can you define misogyny for me specifically i actually have a

00:06:25.740 so you don't know you have to look it up no i'm giving i want to give you like a clear concise

00:06:32.100 definition versus like something right but if you can call me misogynistic you should know what it

00:06:36.160 means before looking it up okay well misogyny is an inherent um distrust inherent hatred inherent

00:06:43.560 um bias against women where did i show hatred or bias towards women so what do you

00:06:51.340 when you say and i'm trying to explain this to you in a way that like it's it's a very like you

00:06:57.780 said it's a broader like you said it's a general kind of idea right so when you say something like

00:07:04.600 a woman's main objective in life is to find a man right that is completely disregarding 1.00

00:07:12.040 the other very important aspects of her humanity which might be to find and to get an education to

00:07:18.940 provide for herself what if she can't find a man to provide for herself so when you you kind of um

00:07:24.660 this idea idea that like a woman's main objective should be to find a good man that means i hate

00:07:29.700 women no that's not what i said you're purposely misinterpreting what i said so what i said was

00:07:35.880 there's layers to your statement that are inherently misogynistic you don't have to

00:07:40.720 outright say i hate women f all women you know what i'm saying it's but when you go into like

00:07:47.380 a pool of talking points that are centered around misogyny then that's where somebody like me can 0.96

00:07:54.480 make the observation of you saying I am misogynistic now if you are not a misogynist if you

00:08:01.040 inherently believe that you yourself are not a misogynist maybe present your ideas that are

00:08:06.280 present your ideas in a way that is not doesn't have so many misogynistic undertones would be my

00:08:12.160 suggestion but what's a misogynistic undertone about what I said that if a woman's main objective 0.98

00:08:19.600 in life is should be to find a man that means that inherently she's incapable of living her life 1.00

00:08:26.260 without a man correct see you see what you just did i will say the same exact thing about men

00:08:35.420 the main objective is to be happy and you got to realize the most important thing to be happy

00:08:39.900 is to be with somebody who loves you we need each other many women and women need men i could say

00:08:45.100 the same thing about men and the feminists that you would probably talk to all the time will say 1.00

00:08:49.060 the same thing they'll call us call men incels to say you just need to get laid because we

00:08:52.920 understand that that's what makes us happy is the opposite gender if i say a man should present 1.00

00:08:59.400 himself like a gentleman so that he can get a woman women make men happy you need a good woman

00:09:04.180 in your life nobody says that's misinteress nobody says that's sexist if i say the same statement 0.83

00:09:09.640 men need a good one men need to be with a good woman nobody is ever going to call that sexist

00:09:15.780 That's a double standard. And see, this is proof of the independence thing. When you talk about

00:09:20.340 interpersonal relationships and how women need, there's more to a woman's life and everything. 1.00

00:09:24.880 It's independent from a man. A man's independence is just providing for himself, 1.00

00:09:30.880 gaining some respect. Feminism has taught a lot of young girls to just run around, 1.00

00:09:34.860 be wild and be, I'm a free woman. I'm independent. Independent of who? You're independent from a man.

00:09:40.600 So it's not actually trying to do something with yourself. You are just trying to get

00:09:45.780 get the same amount of power that a man has by ego tripping you don't really want to go and

00:09:50.540 accomplish the same things that men want to accomplish you just want to say i'm an independent

00:09:54.420 woman of a man um i don't i think you're kind of misunderstanding the the point of this new age

00:10:05.920 of feminism because it's not necessarily that we're trying to stop women from being you know 0.98

00:10:13.800 dependent on their partner whether it's financially um spiritually emotionally whatever it is right

00:10:19.540 and i'm i don't disagree with you but i don't necessarily think that okay let me ask you a

00:10:25.460 question do you think that men should also live their life objectively to find a mate yeah the

00:10:32.280 goal is to be happy and that's one of the main components to being happy as a man is having

00:10:36.600 women having women or having one woman well men want plenty women you want to attract the more 0.96

00:10:43.720 women that you can attract the better a woman is going to act around you if i can have 10 women 1.00

00:10:48.340 attracted to me then the one that really wants to be with me was really going to act right

00:10:52.300 but essentially yeah essentially one one that's i'm answering a different question but yes that's

00:11:00.420 one of the main objectives to be happy is to be the man that is respected that a woman is attracted

00:11:05.700 to okay so now when we okay so when we move on to the i'm glad you answered that just for

00:11:11.000 clarification but um when you move on to the point of like feminism is now teaching girls to like run 1.00

00:11:18.200 wild and run free and all that stuff not necessarily right we're kind of trying to condition young

00:11:24.300 girls into understanding that sometimes relying on a man and i'm gonna i i would argue to say more

00:11:31.860 often than not relying on a man for your financial emotional like everything needs you so you might

00:11:38.980 get disappointed when one man cannot provide you with the emotional support that you need

00:11:44.060 the financial support that you need the emotional the psychological the spiritual support that you

00:11:50.280 need it is kind of unrealistic to expect one human being to provide you with all of these things when

00:11:57.460 you can have your own base of emotional and financial security that way when you come and

00:12:03.680 allow a man into your life then it is more on like an equal playing field and instead my argument is

00:12:09.880 this is feminist it's the fault of feminism that this problem is happening now there are so many 1.00

00:12:14.560 women who are starting to earn more than men you hear me there's there's so many women who are 1.00

00:12:20.480 out earning men and the problem with women is that they are so egotistical they don't know how to date 1.00

00:12:25.000 down so they don't know how to be with a man who earns less than them they don't want it they always

00:12:29.280 want to go up and at the same time they want to be monogamous to a man who's a high earner 0.70

00:12:33.460 but that guy he's got to that point he doesn't want to be monogamous to some random girl who's

00:12:37.680 making all these demands the reason that there's the reason that there's all these uh there's this

00:12:43.220 problem in relationships and that a man can't provide everything that a woman needs is because 0.88

00:12:47.500 of feminism is because we told women that they need to go out and do their own thing and they 1.00

00:12:51.120 need to be independent and you need to start voting and the kitchen is oppressive and you need

00:12:54.820 to be outside and you need to take off your head cover and that being a virgin is a bad is you need 0.89

00:13:00.540 to explore your options this is the reason that this problem exists um okay do you think that

00:13:09.100 most men want to date women who make more than them of course not so it's actually a problem

00:13:16.960 on both sides then right so women don't want to make don't want to date with men who make less

00:13:22.720 than them because they are seen as inferior just based off but it's not it's not the normie's

00:13:27.140 It goes bigger than just men and women. There's a reason that feminism was pushed so hard in the 1.00

00:13:32.200 West. And it was because to keep ultimate control and to make more money off of us so that we have

00:13:35.840 to work harder, spend more money. Women are the ultimate consumers. You're materialistic. You 1.00

00:13:39.860 want to get Birkin bags. You want to get all this bullshit. We have to spend more money on you. 1.00

00:13:43.220 You're going to go vote. You're going to be higher earners. They're going to pay more tax

00:13:46.940 dollars. If women aren't in the kitchen, if women aren't raising the kids, then they are out making 1.00

00:13:52.220 money and now they owe more tax dollars to the government the idea of feminism was propagated 1.00

00:13:57.580 so that they can make more money off of us and they can manipulate and control us even more

00:14:01.340 it's not the fault of men or women it's the people in charge behind the scenes who are playing little

00:14:05.740 games imagine if i gave feminism to all the normies and it worked my dad keeps calling me 1.00

00:14:11.820 and like i can't like you know but um hanging up on your dad to talk to me huh you're hanging up

00:14:17.980 on your dad to talk to me i mean i'm i call him every day so this is modern day feminism

00:14:27.180 okay what if your dad's in dire trouble and you're in here all right go ahead my dad lives

00:14:31.980 in another state so there's really nothing he could do anyway but um regardless of that okay

00:14:37.580 so i do agree with you on a certain level that there is a larger power structure that

00:14:42.700 pits women against men i agree with you however the reason is kind of like i don't agree with

00:14:52.300 the reason right so in terms of like i want to say second wave feminism when women did have more 1.00

00:14:58.300 money to spend and things like that they were things and products were marketed more towards

00:15:03.180 women this is like and that's why i say like it's a bigger larger structure because we don't control 1.00

00:15:07.900 mass media marketing you and me it's corporations that do that the elites so

00:15:12.800 because things were marketed more towards women telling us that oh buy this razor by the way did 0.99

00:15:19.540 you know that shaving was not like like shaving down there was not really a thing until galette

00:15:23.440 made it a thing with marketing like mass marketing right birth control all this stuff abortion all 0.88

00:15:29.500 this stuff was sold all these ideas were sold to us to make us are you on birth control no okay but

00:15:36.520 that's just personally my body just rejected so many different kinds but good so you're not

00:15:40.520 completely gone you're a little bit brainwashed calling me a misogynist by not really knowing why

00:15:44.240 but at least you're not taking birth control i don't here's the thing like i don't think that

00:15:49.080 this is an is a you problem like i don't think that this is like you're the like the only

00:15:53.820 i don't think that you're the only misogynist like out there and and don't take offense when

00:16:01.740 i say it inherently of course i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm going to take offense when you call me if i

00:16:06.420 label if i just said racist if i call it it's the same thing you're saying that i hate women 1.00

00:16:10.340 that's what a misogynist is if you're gonna go out here and say that i hate women i'm not gonna

00:16:14.420 be like oh that's fine i can let you say these words that's a serious allegation that people

00:16:18.500 put out there and that no don't hold on that's a big reason that i was canceled people thought

00:16:22.280 that i was canceled for this this really surface level stuff about misogyny when i was canceled i

00:16:26.280 was deleted off all these platforms with covid misinformation election misinformation so when

00:16:30.100 you throw out these allegations without anything to back it up you are pushing this cancel culture 0.99

00:16:34.240 and we are shoving down the truth we're gonna keep on believing the bullshit that the the elites 0.97

00:16:38.640 want us to believe i'm backing it up right now i don't i don't think that it's specific to you 0.66

00:16:45.780 i don't think that you are the only person with this ideology out there i think that inherently

00:16:51.800 we do live but you're still saying that about me huh you're just the person with a really large

00:16:58.040 platform like you're just the one with a really large platform that's why i and a lot of people

00:17:05.480 on the internet kind of look at you because you kind of think men and women are equal

00:17:08.560 i think that they're equal but i think that they're different that makes no sense

00:17:13.560 separate but equal no equal and indifferent means that it's different they can't be two 0.93

00:17:20.340 things at the same time i think those are opposites i think that men and women are equal

00:17:25.880 i think that we are different but i think well how what makes us equal um in terms of like

00:17:33.380 emotionally um you think i'm as emotional as you i think we're nico i've seen some of your videos

00:17:41.200 you can get emotional yeah on camera to make money and entertain people you get emotional all day and

00:17:47.300 cry and sit there with the lights off and the shade off and then you post in your story you

00:17:50.880 post your story nobody text me i'm fine your emotion is different i know how to channel that

00:17:55.640 incident that use and to use it for you have done that you also it's built into your body to be

00:18:02.240 emotional you have a hormone cycle you bleed once a month you are inherently different your emotional

00:18:09.140 cycle is tied in to your period is tied into how she's talking to someone she's done okay tell her

00:18:18.540 i'll be there in an hour sorry um that's wrong what's wrong that's wrong um so men go through

00:18:31.800 a 24-hour hormone cycle women go through a 28-day cycle like we both have different 1.00

00:18:36.520 men don't have a hormone cycle we don't have a menstrual cycle no you're right the bottom line

00:18:44.820 are you really are you genuinely gonna sit here and say that men are as emotional as women

00:18:49.480 emotional in different ways yeah i've seen in different ways that's okay so but you have to

00:18:55.180 admit there's either more emotional or less emotional who's more emotional women or men

00:18:59.000 i think they're equally emotional okay do you think that women are as strong as men 0.98

00:19:04.460 no physically like in terms of physical strength no that's anatomy okay do you think women are as 1.00

00:19:13.040 capable as leading as men.

00:19:14.280 Oh, one second.

00:19:15.280 Huh?

00:19:18.440 It's going to get me, it's going to take me about 45 minutes together, but I have to

00:19:21.620 get...

00:19:21.720 I'm done.

00:19:22.400 I'm just going to...

00:19:23.820 I'm so tired of this, this conversation.

00:19:28.480 It's entertaining sometimes, but it just goes in circles.

00:19:33.680 Yeah.

00:19:36.500 Bro, every, every five seconds.

00:19:39.720 Someone calling.

00:19:40.560 I'm not, I'm not.

00:19:42.440 We got 3,000 people watching, I'm not going to wait for you to

00:19:45.920 I'm not going to wait for you to

00:19:48.620 And now, my bad will lead

00:19:54.940 He's going to be mad at him

00:19:57.220 Okay, okay, my bad, my bad, my bad

00:20:00.160 That's it

00:20:05.780 Is this your job?

SNEAKO - November 23, 2022

SNEAKO Debates a Feminist Hater

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