SNEAKO - SNEAKO Debates Destiny About Tristan Tate

00:00:00.000 should we legalize bestiality um i don't know i don't have a strong i don't really care about

00:00:04.140 bestiality is that all you think about is fucking animals or why i'm surprised on your your take on

00:00:08.680 that the reason i bring it up is we're allowing so much sexual deviancy we're starting to allow

00:00:13.080 everything if you can't take a hard stance on that then that changes my perception on your

00:00:18.020 entire political view yeah i think so if we if we started i mean you could deflect with humor but

00:00:23.740 i'm not deflecting it should be as long as we can kill and torture animals i don't know we can't

00:00:27.020 yeah i don't care go for it okay so bestiality should be legal in destiny's ideal world well

00:00:32.100 yeah absolutely okay and incest should be legalized um i don't even know if incest is illegal most of

00:00:38.020 the bad things that happen under incest are already illegal i don't i don't i don't think it is every

00:00:42.200 state there should be no punishment okay how about even not even legally there should be no shame

00:00:46.340 that's that's one thing i've noticed traveling uh the world is that there's an element of shame that

00:00:50.880 keeps everything intact because people don't want to act they don't want to pass these taboos that

00:00:55.720 have been instilled by society do you think that there should be no shame for no i think sometimes

00:00:59.500 oh for incest probably there should be yeah because most incestual relationships are really bad

00:01:03.960 what if it's like too consenting why are they're healthy and they like doing it it's just then they

00:01:07.920 can go for it i don't care just like how muslims are okay with muhammad fucking a nine-year-old i think

00:01:11.860 that is probably not the biggest deal in the world

00:01:13.800 wow hi with somebody hey what up how you doing pretty good man well you and miami what you up to

00:01:22.080 uh in miami just streaming and memeing you know same as always i'm not interrupting anything

00:01:26.960 super i haven't spoken to you in a while uh no just watching a video you can always pause

00:01:31.760 there's been a lot of new stuff since the last time we spoke a lot of stuff that uh we could talk

00:01:37.800 about yeah sure what's up there's a couple things that i have going on i have um jesse lee peterson

00:01:44.540 tomorrow so i could ask you about that about how to speak to him there's also the adam 22

00:01:49.780 blah blah blah thing that you already know about everyone's talking about that and also

00:01:54.120 tristan tate following you and then also mentioning nick and uh addressing certain groups of people

00:02:02.040 and answering a question um yeah whatever you want are you in la now i'm back i was in la and then

00:02:10.000 went to thailand went to phuket for a while just got back you're doing jlp you're doing it remotely or

00:02:15.060 yeah i'll do remote but i i wanted to do it in person but i didn't know he was in la

00:02:19.140 gotcha gotcha um first first what do you think about um tristan did you see tristan tates

00:02:27.280 answering certain questions about the jew stuff or whatever yeah what's your take on that

00:02:33.220 i mean obviously i agree you agree that it's not worth talking about and you should just get money

00:02:40.180 and go on dates there's not that there's almost nothing there people that obsess over it are

00:02:44.300 generally losers they generally offer no good solutions or advice or things to live in life

00:02:48.320 anybody that offers grand conspiracy narratives about how the world is run it's usually disempowering

00:02:52.200 as fuck and it's just annoying to deal with and it's i don't know but obviously that's my

00:02:55.500 take on it well i understand your point about the obsession thing there are a lot of people

00:03:01.060 that obsess over it and usually the people that do don't have anything really going on and so they

00:03:05.600 get satisfaction from thinking that everything's out to get them online a lot of them are nerds

00:03:10.260 in their basement all the time spam posting on cartoon accounts but don't you think that it's

00:03:15.600 i'm wondering what you think do you think it's important to talk about if you're talking about

00:03:18.620 um the matrix and controlling mechanisms aren't those questions worth

00:03:24.600 investigating no no not at all i think there's a lot of important things to talk about in life i think

00:03:32.820 that the issues and problems that exist in life are usually you need a pretty sophisticated

00:03:36.980 explanation of them um talking about like jews or the matrix is just a way to shortcut all of the

00:03:41.540 critical thinking into putting all of the ills onto some external boogeyman like rather than saying

00:03:46.820 you know like integrating certain minorities into the country is very difficult or sometimes we might

00:03:50.600 want to do things and they end up backfiring um sometimes you know policy is really hard to write

00:03:55.260 those answers are unsatisfying even if they might be the answer and it's way more satisfying to think

00:03:59.960 like jewish boogeyman uses holocaust to get all of us to destroy society like that's a really fun

00:04:05.160 it's cool it's sexy it makes you feel like you have access to some special information

00:04:08.760 but at the end of the day doesn't get you any closer to solving any problem whatsoever in my

00:04:13.080 opinion obviously yeah it's not very practical like making it out of the matrix and getting your

00:04:18.140 money up and becoming self-sovereign and self all that stuff but i don't want to talk the problem

00:04:25.220 just i guess like real quick on this there's like two ways to view like the matrix so in one way

00:04:29.960 there's like the direction that like you fresh and fit ryan dawson i guess are all in this direction

00:04:33.580 and i think tristan tate is in another direction in one world the matrix is like there's this system

00:04:40.080 of people that are trying to disenfranchise men delete masculinity oppress white people and they're

00:04:45.820 doing so so that they can leverage institutions like the banks and the wef in order to enrich themselves

00:04:51.140 while stopping on the necks of like all these other groups beneath them that might challenge them

00:04:54.600 that's like one version of the matrix i think that's what like your crowd in general kind of

00:04:58.140 subscribes to i think that the version of the matrix that the tates or at least tristan would

00:05:02.440 talk about is tristan would say the matrix are companies telling you to buy a product because it'll

00:05:07.240 make you feel good it's women telling you to be soft because that's what they want here comes the

00:05:11.240 loss and it's a thing that is leading to disempower people because instead of telling you the things

00:05:16.300 you need to hear that aren't profitable it's just products being sold to you by companies and feel

00:05:20.520 good slogans being given to you by people that don't know what it means to be masculine or be a man etc

00:05:24.340 that's like the the quote-unquote the matrix i think that like tristan is talking about

00:05:27.940 so there's a huge it seems like you have uh you've lined up to his point of view quite a bit maybe

00:05:32.220 because i've seen a couple of your interactions on twitter and it seems like you're even starting

00:05:36.280 to agree with them a lot more i'm wondering if you have shifted your perspective on the trafficking

00:05:39.740 thing or it's also interesting to me that he ended up following you after you for months on end

00:05:44.660 said that he's a human trafficker and needs to go to jail um no i mean there's always going to be

00:05:49.000 things that they say that i probably agree with right there's gonna be things that i say things that he says

00:05:53.120 that i disagree with i still think they almost for certain are traffickers um but i mean like i said

00:05:57.940 the caveat always give us unless they lied in all of their youtube videos that's probably not true

00:06:01.740 um but i mean i told him as much personally dms too where i said it's yeah i mean i obviously i think

00:06:06.020 you guys are traffickers but i mean they should go to court have their day in court do their shit but

00:06:09.040 and he wasn't upset with you he was just he probably had a cordial conversation uh i mean a little

00:06:13.560 i mean he was a little upset i guess he didn't know that but i mean i told him and he said well

00:06:17.120 we'll see what happens i said good luck in court i mean we'll see what happens

00:06:20.160 okay um respect you sticking to that point of view even after that what's your your whole take

00:06:26.960 on well how should i approach the jesse lee peterson interview that's like one of your

00:06:30.880 most popular interviews of all time and i think he's a really interesting guy i actually agree with

00:06:36.060 him quite a bit i posted this clip the other day from my no jumper podcast what i was talking about how

00:06:40.980 black culture promotes a lot of negative behavior and a lot of times black people will drag black people

00:06:47.100 down way more than they ever blame white supremacy for for example when you start to make it up in

00:06:51.600 the world or you start to speak properly or you start to address more respectably everybody black

00:06:56.980 people like use words like you're you're speaking white or they'll bring you back down and say that

00:07:01.800 you're you're a coon and all this stuff say that you're you know you're simping for white people when

00:07:07.220 you try to make it out of the and you kind of see that that response in the quote tweets everybody

00:07:10.840 is saying like oh you can't speak on black culture if you're not black blah blah blah why is he talking

00:07:15.880 about this he doesn't know about jazz it's like okay first off no black person like who who goes

00:07:21.480 to jazz concerts anymore who listens to jazz who are all the top uh black artists they're all you

00:07:26.560 know promoting murder sexy red is like saying my coochie pink my booty hole brown cardi all these

00:07:31.540 all the major black artists are promoting degeneracy which is something that we all know but when you

00:07:36.780 talk about it they immediately try to silence you saying you're racist so i kind of saw a good response

00:07:41.360 there and i think that's something worth talking about and maybe even something you agree about

00:07:44.300 i was listening to your streamer before you saying that you could tell somebody is racist right away

00:07:48.240 but people will call me racist for that and i saw a lot of people upset with me and uh calling me

00:07:53.220 racist but it's just i'm just pointing out something that if you if i was blacker they would probably nod

00:07:58.180 their head and agree with when yay talks about it they say it makes sense but when i talk about it in

00:08:02.080 a room with adam 22 they immediately say like uh oh look he uh he follows richard spencer he hangs out

00:08:08.440 he's a white supremacist sympathizer all this stuff okay okay okay when i say this i'm not here to pass

00:08:19.200 judgment one way or another but when people have these conversations there's just some things i would

00:08:23.240 like them to be aware of okay for a long time i would agree that to some extent rap is degenerate

00:08:28.960 right especially when we talk about early gangster rap especially talk about sad boy fucking xanax rap

00:08:32.540 all these rappers that die of fucking drug ods and all this shit like there is an element to you can even

00:08:37.220 say there's an element to black culture that's degenerate okay that's probably true right there

00:08:41.820 you go that we agree on that sure wait wait wait okay yeah but here's the issue and this is what i

00:08:46.460 wish when people have these conversations these are things you need to keep in mind okay one the

00:08:51.260 entertainment that you create is a reflection of the culture that you're in right it wouldn't make

00:08:58.060 like there is no ashkenazi jew that makes a song called like fuck the police it doesn't make any sense

00:09:02.260 like why would you feel that way about the police if you're just right well unless you're talking about

00:09:06.200 the gestapo right um so so that's one thing keep in mind that the the art and the media that you

00:09:12.740 create it's going to be a reflection of the environment that you're in now if we look at

00:09:17.140 um if we look at the history of african americans in the united states the environment that they've been

00:09:22.880 in for a long time has been on one level legally and institutionally fucked right or the very

00:09:27.980 legally fucked right they were slaves okay um past that it was institutionally fucked jim crow you know

00:09:33.960 redlining i already said that but then why is it that whenever a rapper starts to get out of that

00:09:38.380 even years hold on wait real quick i'm gonna i'll let you answer or ask her i just want to explain

00:09:42.220 this real quick okay right that for all these times black people's culture in the united states

00:09:46.800 because of things that have been outside of their control have been they've been relegated to really

00:09:50.560 shit environments and the result of that the media they've made has been some kind of reflection of

00:09:53.540 that then there's also this kind of uncomfortable thing where we were very critical of black media is

00:09:58.080 garbage black media is horrible it's bringing down the black community but then there's this

00:10:01.020 uncomfortable trend of like black people will create something that's disgusting the blues and

00:10:06.760 jazz these bastardizations of european music and then eventually white people like you know it was

00:10:10.840 gross but actually it's kind of cool we're gonna take it right jazz people jazz uh blues jazz came a

00:10:16.480 lot of it from uh black players and fusion of their culture into european style music they made

00:10:20.560 something new and creative we thought it was horrible and then elvis presley comes out and does

00:10:24.100 rock and roll it's awesome you go to jazz institutions today it's all white people playing it's awesome

00:10:27.540 right and then something similar is kind of happening with rap rap is gross rap is disgusting

00:10:31.420 but if you go to any rap concert fucking 90 of the audience are white people so while we're

00:10:35.820 simultaneously criticizing the culture and saying it's disgusting we're the main consumers of it when

00:10:39.640 i say we i mean we as white people so i'm just saying that collectively when you take all in that

00:10:43.380 account i can see black people looking to be like okay fuck you you're saying that our media is

00:10:48.180 crap and we're fucking ourselves that might be true to some extent but it doesn't keep you from

00:10:50.980 consuming it you love buying it you're our main consumers um and eventually you come by and you

00:10:55.540 steal it and you don't have any of the same criticism because it's not the same expectation

00:10:58.480 for you as a white person to uplift your culture whereas every single rap artist that becomes

00:11:02.580 famous is expected to be some representative some malcolm x some mlk that's supposed to uplift all

00:11:06.960 those people when they might just want to make media that reflects their environment and they just

00:11:10.300 want to make money like any white person would but there's a whole right i'm not arguing that of

00:11:13.740 course we all know that white kids love to consume the stuff the aesthetic is yeah the aesthetic is

00:11:18.660 sexy there's murder all the stuff that's working all that stuff like obviously that's attractive

00:11:22.620 that's why they keep making it but the the bigger argument is why even when they're out of that

00:11:27.420 lifestyle like yes okay so some systematic oppression they're from the hood all this stuff

00:11:31.400 redlining blah blah blah we're victims we're victims we're victims that's always the the main

00:11:35.040 black mentality in america is that we're always victimized and white supremacy is holding us back

00:11:39.440 but how come when they start to elevate when they start to get out of that even years after they've

00:11:42.960 been out of the gang lifestyle that's all they know how to continue rapping about that's all they know

00:11:46.140 how to even when they have nothing to do with it for years and years and years

00:11:48.640 their whole aesthetic all of it is they even will stay in the gang mentality they'll stay they'll be

00:11:55.500 around that just so that they could keep that aesthetic going because people yeah because

00:11:59.020 they'll purposely they'll purposely surround themselves with that aesthetic and ideology and that

00:12:03.800 that lifestyle to sell more music they'll they won't live that whatsoever they'll be

00:12:08.540 at nice dinners they'll be traveling the world they'll be in private jets and they're still talking

00:12:11.980 about gangbang and gdk gdbd all this stuff because one because your your upbringing and how you

00:12:17.780 get success is is largely going to shape a lot of your life you make money doing it people want

00:12:21.980 to hear it and it's something you carry with you forever right this is part of the criticism i don't

00:12:26.920 want to get like too much into the other stuff because i don't want to disagree too much but like

00:12:29.640 a lot of the things that red pillars say about how they move through relationships actually makes

00:12:34.720 a lot of sense if you look at it through a poor lifestyle when you talk about like for instance a lot

00:12:39.320 of red pillars when you guys talk about how you manage relationships when you say the man leads

00:12:43.040 one of the reasons why that you guys always give about men leading is if you get into a fight

00:12:47.360 if you know somebody breaks into your house if this is poor ghetto mentality right no middle

00:12:51.820 class person is thinking like i need to lead my woman for when i have to fight for her light

00:12:55.340 because middle class and wealthy people don't think that way but even when even these red

00:12:58.660 pillars that make like millions of dollars when was the last time myron got you know like jumped

00:13:02.040 with a dude in a gun trying to kill him and his girlfriend right actually this last year

00:13:04.740 recently they were at the restaurant um after a show and he had to protect everybody because

00:13:10.220 he's always carrying a gun and he said like everybody get behind me because it was a fight that

00:13:13.960 went on in the middle of the restaurant so even yeah even when you're talking about your money

00:13:17.480 that's all there's always a risk there's always a possibility no no come on well yes sure it might

00:13:23.640 happen every now and first of all was this a random dude or was this like a fan or whatever right

00:13:27.120 like and actually it was a random it was a random altercation at the restaurant but when it does get

00:13:32.000 down to that it's always the man that has to protect he's the one carrying the gun he's the one

00:13:35.500 who's the most you're saying i understand what you're saying right now this is a poor this is

00:13:38.300 broken mentality this is ghetto mentality nobody in like the wealthy world thinks this way you call the

00:13:42.540 cops or you just leave nobody's thinking about like what how do i need to move in case of a fight

00:13:47.040 like nobody nobody's building their life around these interactions no you're equating it to that

00:13:51.060 he needs to get in a fight he's the one carrying the gun he's the one who's the who's going to be

00:13:54.500 most capable with a weapon in that scenario it's going to be he's going to be better at it than a

00:13:58.060 woman in all i understand what you're saying but i'm saying this is like 0.1 of what you're

00:14:02.480 thinking about but when you listen to red pillars it's like 85 of like how the world is built

00:14:06.760 is around surviving fights like it's just most people just don't think about that right you spent some time

00:14:11.600 in miami beach you've been in la like even in la like most places this shit is not happening i live

00:14:15.500 in la for three four years i'm gonna do a ton of different restaurants i've been in fucking

00:14:17.980 weird places in hollywood homeless people like i've been down in miami beach now i go all over

00:14:22.040 brickle miami beach like it's just not something i think about it's not it's not ultimately the bigger

00:14:26.240 the bigger point of it's not just about the fact that it's happening all the time but it's just

00:14:31.200 having that mentality will lead a better relationship that's sure i'm just saying that sure i'm trying to

00:14:37.520 illustrate here is that like that is something that comes from a certain type of background

00:14:41.800 and it's carried through like myron and maybe i guess even you i don't even know are gonna carry

00:14:46.620 this mentality with you for 10 20 30 years but what i'm telling you is that other wealthy people are

00:14:50.920 gonna look at you like you're crazy that'll never change when you start saying things like oh yeah

00:14:55.240 like if you say if you're at a table talking to some wealthy folks that come from wealthy families

00:14:58.920 and and you're like i need to lead in the relationship like oh well why is that sneeko and i was like

00:15:02.460 what if somebody breaks in here and a fight breaks out like everybody's gonna look at you like you're

00:15:05.340 crazy that's not the reason that i'm going to give in that scenario it's because my woman is

00:15:09.740 going to feel more safe and secure and she's going to be able to be in her feminine more if i'm the

00:15:12.740 one protecting and leading and i'm the masculine one and there's a lot that's like just the most

00:15:16.860 physical and the best example of it like when a fight breaks out but that's obviously not going

00:15:21.000 to happen that much the relationship's better when the masculine man is leading and the woman

00:15:25.540 could be feminine a woman can't properly be feminine if she's not in a safe environment she doesn't

00:15:29.740 feel secure that's ultimately the reason for it uh okay that's just one example but what okay what

00:15:34.960 the last one was uh what do you think about this whole adam 22 thing he's uh so i what i've been

00:15:40.980 messaging him back and forth for a lot of time and you know people are making memes about uh i saw a

00:15:44.720 collage of like the four of us like the cut coalition i think it's funny and adam i like the fact that he's

00:15:50.880 uh he seems really happy with his daughter he was traveling around europe he just got married he was

00:15:55.360 on his honeymoon i see him like pushing his daughter in the swing and then i go on his podcast and he's

00:15:59.580 like yeah i just let my my wife do a bbc porn um and i'm wondering what because in my opinion i like

00:16:05.540 the guy i really do uh but you know he has all these satanist stuff in his in his office he has

00:16:11.560 like the antichrist tatted on his face he says he's an atheist but atheists always tend to embrace

00:16:15.540 satanism to some extent i don't know about you that's a bigger thing that we could talk about but

00:16:19.200 he seems to be coping now on twitter he seems to kind of be justifying it and he's like saying that

00:16:25.660 i i like this and it turned me on and all this stuff but he's also like feeding into the trolls

00:16:30.760 and it clearly bothered by it to some extent i'm wondering i don't think he's bothered by it i

00:16:35.520 think he's bothered by how much other people are bothered by it um i which is still bothered by it

00:16:40.360 well no it's bothered by other people being bothered by it right like when somebody calls me racist that

00:16:46.640 upsets me it doesn't upset me because i'm racist it's upset because they think i'm racist right

00:16:50.560 there's a difference there right okay what's so you you don't think that he cares at all i mean

00:16:57.660 they apparently they had a large conversation about it if he didn't want her to do it he could

00:17:00.860 just told her not to do it no i don't even it's the whole thing is doesn't make sense like if you're

00:17:06.900 going to do it for money just so that you could sell some only fans stuff the guy's a multi multi

00:17:10.120 millionaire you don't need to do this for money it seems weird that he did that like a couple weeks

00:17:14.020 after his marriage if you say multi multi millionaire i could be wrong i doubt he's worth more than 10

00:17:19.000 million dollars whatever but there's there's no reason like the thing like oh i'm just doing it

00:17:23.720 for money is also cope because you don't need to do that for money that's the last thing well but

00:17:27.720 it could be a fuck ton of money this might be like this is probably going to be the best

00:17:31.020 only well okay but what is he gonna buy like if he's say he has an eight million dollar net worth

00:17:35.960 what could he's that he doesn't that's not going to give him a lifestyle upgrade whatsoever by

00:17:39.540 you know having his wife do bbc porn what what what was your read on it if it two or three

00:17:44.740 taxes or income it could i mean it could change okay but what was your what was your read about

00:17:48.840 speaking to him about that what i saw is like he seemed like it was making him uncomfortable

00:17:53.540 and it's i i see it like in a couple months he's going to start regretting this and continue to try

00:17:58.040 to justify it or go deeper down the the porn rabbit hole and also another moment that i had uh on the

00:18:04.760 podcast was like what are you going to do about your daughter seeing all this stuff because i like the

00:18:09.140 fact that he's become a father and he seems like he's maturing and he even said that having a daughter

00:18:13.880 was way more fulfilling than the hundreds and hundreds of women that he slept with and i'm

00:18:16.800 like that's good he seems like he's on the right path and then he does this and then i ask him like

00:18:20.280 how are you going to explain this to your daughter they already did he's already got a fuck ton of

00:18:23.580 tattoos they already literally shoot porn they do a podcast with women that they fuck afterwards right

00:18:28.300 is this going to be the thing that this is different this this is every okay but it's so even if it's

00:18:33.680 not just about the difference that it has on the child the perception is the is the biggest part

00:18:37.800 the perception is like really weird like red pill communities where you guys think it's okay for you to

00:18:42.300 like step out on your woman but it's not okay for the woman to step on the guy i think for most people

00:18:45.980 it's not red pill it's just it's just everybody no no no no everybody that's red look that's only

00:18:50.020 it's not red pill go and talk to any country movement men don't cheat on their wives and it's okay that's

00:18:54.580 not true it's it's not about the in between the relationship it's also public perception because what

00:19:00.300 i'm saying is that the kid is going to get bullied for this and it's going to come up and what matters

00:19:04.140 more than just like how the mother and father deal with it is public perception so once the daughter

00:19:09.060 sees that and sees like okay mommy got bbc'd that's going to be different on the child's

00:19:13.100 mentality than okay like we did some they did some three simple both are bad but one is completely

00:19:17.340 different because that's the type of it that's the number one biggest humiliation ritual for a white

00:19:22.040 guy maybe if you're racist um i that's that's just true i mean it's the number one uh porn subject for

00:19:28.980 for like it's always like black on white the obsession that is the number it's not an obsession look

00:19:33.280 it is an obsession the idea that like if my girl well it's a white guy obsession but i am talking about

00:19:38.460 it's a black guy in red pill space it's a black person obsession too i think that if you put a

00:19:43.040 whole board of pull the average red pillar and you were to give them a woman you say would you

00:19:46.100 rather she fucked like five black guys or one dog i think they'd rather like or like five dogs or one

00:19:51.940 black guy i think the guy would rather take the doggy fuck a woman like every time like the obsession

00:19:55.640 with bbc and black guys fucking white chicks or any chick is really fucking weird and that's true

00:20:00.500 like everybody in these red pill space even black guys sure but you don't think that this is going to be

00:20:05.480 a problem because this is something that's completely new where we're trying to to normalize

00:20:09.460 this only fans is one thing um which is also bad and like instagram pictures is another level

00:20:14.160 but something like this what lasting effect do you think that this has on a child's mentality

00:20:20.040 i don't think that you want to talk about what is the effect that doing like public like podcasts

00:20:25.700 or porn has on child's mentality that's one thing to talk about but like to separate out like the bbc

00:20:29.640 from everything else they do i just think it's really weird but um in terms of like the child's

00:20:34.000 mentality i don't know it's probably gonna be rough any child with like a famous parent or a

00:20:36.880 parent that does porn or whatever it's probably there's probably gonna be extra challenges there

00:20:39.840 that you've got to deal with as a parent i would imagine did you what what did you notice when you

00:20:46.060 were sitting on the on the podcast talking about it i'm seeing it's still getting gets brought up so

00:20:50.280 much with you uh i'm it's starting to die down more with me but it's always going to be there forever

00:20:55.180 um what what was your read of talking to him about that um it seems like he tried a thing for having

00:21:02.900 his wife do some things he's understandably he's having like some feelings about it almost everybody

00:21:06.860 does women included after threesomes like you know they start to feel differently about it once

00:21:10.300 they've actually seen it um who knows where he'll actually settle on whether or not he thinks it's

00:21:14.320 okay to do in the long term or not but that's probably something he's thinking about a lot i guess

00:21:17.180 i would imagine okay but everybody has like feelings about like um like one of the most common

00:21:23.460 like relationship enders for sexual things is like a woman is like oh i want to do a threesome and then

00:21:26.820 they feel good about it and they want to do it and then they do it through the boyfriend and they watch

00:21:29.720 the boyfriend fuck another girl and like she gets traumatized right yeah she's like i don't i don't

00:21:33.020 think i like this at all yeah but so i mean it's common it happens yeah so you're i i see you're

00:21:37.800 downplaying the the public perception of it because even because that is important whether or not it

00:21:43.000 bothers you personally more the public perception does matter quite a bit right like a woman doesn't

00:21:48.140 get humiliated the same way when she goes in a threesome and feels bad about it the same way

00:21:51.960 a man does because that removes your masculinity for a woman it might make her insecure but that doesn't

00:21:56.680 remove for femininity i mean it's just going to depend on how secure they are in themselves

00:22:02.180 you're securing yourself then a public perception is who cares public doesn't live your relationships

00:22:05.640 you do i would never i don't know how adam feels about his but i would never let the public dictate

00:22:09.120 to me my sexual activities or my relationship history because one most of these people are virgins

00:22:14.200 and secondly why would i let them they don't live my life i do but do you think that taboos exist

00:22:20.100 for a good reason i think that fucking kids is a taboo is probably that's really good that that's a taboo

00:22:25.900 but like having threesomes or doing things where all parties are consenting and like i don't think

00:22:30.440 that's necessarily the worst thing in the world no i don't think there needs to be a taboo around

00:22:33.380 everything right so you you think that trans women are women all this stuff and like a gay all the

00:22:39.020 sodomy all that stuff is good what do you think i've been having this discussion with people

00:22:43.340 i think people inherently know that incest is wrong or bestiality is wrong right because it's unnatural

00:22:50.280 like any sex that doesn't completely uh doesn't completely correlate to reproduction is wrong

00:22:58.000 right that's what i believe but i'm wondering what you think about that you seem like to be okay with

00:23:02.300 all this other like the lgbt stuff and you know mommy doing bbc porn do you think that it's morally okay

00:23:08.060 to have sex with an animal um personally i don't really care uh because we already like

00:23:15.760 i mean like we already torture and eat animals which is probably more fucked up um than fucking

00:23:20.580 animal but i mean like anybody that fucks an animal probably has a whole bunch of other weird

00:23:23.760 problems going on in their head i would imagine like it's okay like should bestiality be legal

00:23:29.120 um yeah i don't give a fuck wow do you think do you think that torturing and eating animals should

00:23:34.760 be legal i think that you should eat animals the halal way they should be slaughtered as in islam we

00:23:40.860 believe that you should only eat animals that are slaughtered the proper way where i'm not

00:23:43.720 talking about slaughtered i'm talking about like hooking cows up to hormones and drinking milk or

00:23:47.240 pumping things into things no that's not okay that's wrong okay so you eat all factory farm

00:23:51.800 shit and all that stuff i'm eating halal meat now yeah okay oh that's fine that's the proper way to

00:23:57.640 eat it because you need to add some moral to that you think bestiality is okay right okay do you think

00:24:02.100 that incest is morally okay the main problem with incest is usually intra-family dynamics are

00:24:08.660 introducing a whole bunch of bad power stuff that makes it not healthy to pursue so like older sibling

00:24:13.500 younger sibling is probably always going to be unhealthy parent child is almost always going

00:24:16.900 to be unhealthy the issue with incest is that the internal family dynamics are make it really hard

00:24:20.640 for anybody to consent to any type of sexual relationship but what if we equate your same

00:24:24.120 thing like what if you don't because you're saying it doesn't matter about public perception

00:24:27.200 so if they're both adults a son if you've got like two fucking twin brothers that are like 27 and

00:24:33.560 they want to fuck in college then knock them out i don't care go for it wow

00:24:36.140 yeah this is what i'm talking about like this is when um i think atheists don't see that there's a

00:24:42.120 soul involved and committing these deviant acts starts to remove your soul from your existence

00:24:48.300 and when you start thinking that everything's okay just because like you can justify it in a in a

00:24:53.540 debate or something there's some things that are just inherently wrong because deep down we know it

00:24:57.340 i think a lot of people even know this stuff without religion but these are just just wrong without

00:25:03.640 debate without discussion sure i mean like stuff like this you could just point by period say this

00:25:07.560 is wrong yeah and i understand you think that but the problem is at the end of the day you're not

00:25:10.320 even relying on your actual intuitions you're going by the weird religious ones at the very least

00:25:14.400 that's not even even before my reversion to islam i would tell you the same thing that's fine i was

00:25:19.640 an atheist like i was a reddit atheist too and i would have said the same thing like no

00:25:23.060 bestiality is wrong and like why it just is there's some things that are just that's great that's fine

00:25:28.740 i would rather use moral intuitions and reasoning to try to avoid harm for people

00:25:32.900 right like you can sit here and be like oh my god you feel this way about bestiality and

00:25:37.120 incest and blah blah blah but i think that the way that your movement views women is fucking

00:25:40.920 disgusting like it's worse than any amount of doggy fucking or mother son when they're both 30

00:25:45.820 40 years old fucking could ever be the way that you guys view and treat women so but i mean like

00:25:49.780 you have like your feelings for that and you think it's all internally justified and the souls

00:25:53.240 have men over women blah that's fine you just equated uh you just equated men leading in a

00:25:57.920 relationship a red pill relationship to bestiality hold on hold on i'm not equating any what do you

00:26:02.580 think equating means you're comparing it and you're saying that one thing is worth what do

00:26:07.200 you think comparing means do you think comparing means equating why would you compare two things

00:26:11.800 that are equal fine maybe that wasn't the perfect word but that it's no no no no no it's not the

00:26:16.220 perfect word you're pivoting no no no the problem is you can't engage you pivoted from bestiality to

00:26:20.320 red pill relationships pivot i showed you that you feel incredibly comfortable in your moral

00:26:24.900 reasoning because of souls or intuition or whatever and what i'm saying is i have other moral reasoning

00:26:29.620 that takes huge um that has a huge problem with some things you say about like women you're sitting

00:26:34.220 here focused on questions that don't really matter incest and and fucking reality doesn't matter no

00:26:39.460 how many people are fucking animals in the world no that doesn't really matter but things like how

00:26:43.200 we treat women how we set up relationships those things are way more no it is about how many people

00:26:47.880 it's way more important you know it's about the mindset of accepting that and accepting all types

00:26:52.420 of sexual deviance that's the biggest thing where we start to accept everything and then every

00:26:55.920 the floodgates open and then society crumbles and i think if you think it's okay to have sex with the

00:27:00.980 dog then everything starts to crumble after that this is it's not you shouldn't even have to bring

00:27:06.700 up statistics if people start to believe that things like this are okay everything falls apart

00:27:12.480 and and it's funny because the thing that has led us into the first world hasn't been the reduction

00:27:18.060 of incest and bestiality it's been treating women like people that's been the thing that's moved us

00:27:22.820 into this world so the ways that we view women and the ways that they move in society have been

00:27:26.900 far more instrumental in getting us to where we are now than strong stances on incest and bestiality

00:27:31.900 which are niche issues that very few people actually care about no it's started the difference

00:27:37.760 is we used to believe that men and women had different roles that women were supposed to be

00:27:42.180 at home raising their children and now you're saying that treating women like people is treating them

00:27:46.300 exactly the same as men that it doesn't matter who protects and provides a woman can protect because

00:27:50.080 like how many scenarios are that going to happen but ultimately we are different by design god

00:27:54.720 created us differently if a woman wants to avoid harm what's like the number one thing she should do

00:27:59.080 she should find a man who's going to be able to protect protect her wrong if a woman wants to

00:28:03.340 avoid harm she should be a lesbian because the most likely person that's ever going to hurt you as a

00:28:07.380 woman is your significant other so you're defeated by the very thing you're saying when you say men

00:28:12.280 exist to protect women to protect women from who not from other women it's from other men so even your

00:28:16.660 point doesn't make sense right it's not about treating women and men as equal it's about granting

00:28:20.520 them the same autonomy and letting them make the choices in society that in society that the

00:28:24.420 healthiest for them that they want to do the most and when you leave these options up to women then

00:28:27.960 they start working more they do other things and your society gets better look at every single

00:28:31.540 industrialized country in the world one of the hallmarks of success is usually women getting to

00:28:34.380 vote women having access to reproductive control and women working jobs it's like the best thing for your

00:28:37.880 economy okay if you if you think that but i mean i don't it's not that i think it it's just that's

00:28:47.320 like the reality of the world every single successful country you're in the one of your biggest markers

00:28:52.000 for economic development is is whether or not women are working and have access to reproductive control

00:28:56.640 or are they just like we're seeing all these we're seeing all these countries that allow all this stuff

00:29:01.620 and believe in all this feminist lie we're seeing them all crumble in real time and we're

00:29:05.260 starting to see who's crumbling years france is crumbling right now one of the wokest countries

00:29:09.240 in the world three years ago we saw all of america burn hold on burn because of all the blm yeah

00:29:13.280 countries countries where there's sharia law yeah countries where there's sharia law and we say

00:29:18.340 like okay not everything is up to the individual person based on whether they want to do it there's

00:29:22.320 some things that should be taboo and we should not be allowed to do because it's better for

00:29:26.720 everybody else it's better because of basic morality those countries end up surviving those

00:29:31.540 countries end up surviving where like where did countries with the top three lowest crime rates

00:29:36.440 are all middle eastern countries that's great and who invented the microprocessor who gave us

00:29:40.420 youtube and facebook who landed on the moon who runs the world economy and world trade who dictates

00:29:46.280 policy to every other free nation on the planet who donates more to like it's not countries with

00:29:50.260 sharia law and those countries sharia law can only do because they're sitting on fucking mountains of

00:29:54.200 oil right like you don't exist without the united states and i don't either are you and you're trying to

00:29:58.740 give me this idea like well sharia law is good because we can make some women wear hijabs and

00:30:02.620 that's your marker for success you're saying you're saying no my marker for also france has

00:30:07.200 a whole history of violent fucking protests that's what they do they kill my marker of success has

00:30:14.100 nothing to do you see you started bringing up all this and all everything that happens to do with

00:30:18.040 industrialized society and the invention of technology and trade like that's not how i mark a happy

00:30:24.620 society the ultimate goal is happiness right like the all these things that your technological

00:30:29.940 development stuff like that you could argue that it's actually hurt happiness quite a bit

00:30:33.240 that isn't the ultimate marker of success and i i didn't argue how are you finding happiness right now

00:30:38.480 you're getting on airplanes manufactured by western technology on your cell phone blogging

00:30:44.060 probably made by apple or google on it's uploading into social media networks that are ran by

00:30:49.080 microprocessors probably in an amazon warehouse every single part of your life that you're enjoying right

00:30:53.340 now the the women you can reach out to the adventures you're having all the learning that

00:30:56.780 you're doing this conversation right now is built off of western technology not sharia law right i use

00:31:01.640 the technology that's here but ultimately what makes me happy is my connection with god is my

00:31:05.140 relationships with people is my relationship ayahuasca and fucking brazil and go crawl into the

00:31:09.560 ayahuasca has nothing to do with that that's that's some no ayahuasca that's the incest bestiality

00:31:16.500 argument that you're making for that's not what makes me happy those things obviously are fun and they

00:31:21.540 give me access to people and i'm taking advantage of the industrialized society but that's not what

00:31:25.960 makes people happiest it's connection with the higher power okay i mean that that is one aspect

00:31:32.300 but i mean like loving god while you're starving or you don't have a computer uh can kind of suck in

00:31:36.980 some countries i think that all of the things that modern technology affords us i think is really

00:31:40.100 fucking cool i mean and not just cool in like uh i'm browsing tiktok all day kind of way but cool in

00:31:45.600 that like uh if i'm on an episode of like fresh and fit with you like that's that can only happen

00:31:50.280 in the united states right you're some like haitian immigrant i'm like half cuban myron is who the

00:31:56.300 fuck knows where like all these different people are brought together by all the traveling all the

00:31:59.600 technologies all the thing in the country that makes that possible it's only happening the united

00:32:02.740 states right even in dubai where all that shit is happening now it's people from the u.s going there

00:32:07.140 like should we legalize bestiality um i don't know i don't really care about bestiality is that all

00:32:13.380 you think about is fucking animals or why i'm surprised on your your take on that at my the

00:32:17.840 reason i bring it up is we're allowing so much sexual deviancy we're starting to allow everything

00:32:22.380 if you can't take a hard stance on that then that changes my perception on your entire political view

00:32:28.200 yeah i think so if we if we started to i mean you could deflect with humor but i'm not deflecting

00:32:33.320 it should be as long as we can kill and torture animals i don't know we can't fuck them yeah i don't

00:32:36.480 care go for it okay so bestiality should be legal in destiny's ideal world well yeah absolutely okay

00:32:42.200 and incest should be legalized um i don't even know if incest is illegal most of the bad things

00:32:47.500 that happen under incest are already illegal i don't i don't i don't think it is every state

00:32:51.360 there should be no punishment okay how about even not even legally there should be no shame

00:32:55.220 that's that's one thing i've noticed traveling uh the world is that there's an element of shame

00:32:59.580 that keeps everything intact because people don't want to act they don't want to pass these taboos

00:33:04.440 that have been instilled by society do you think that there should be no shame for no i think

00:33:08.120 sometimes oh for incest probably there should be yeah because most incestual relationships are

00:33:12.200 really bad what if it's like too consenting why they're healthy and they like doing it it's just

00:33:16.420 then they can go for it i don't care just like how muslims are okay with muhammad fucking a nine-year-old

00:33:20.460 i think that is probably not the biggest deal in the world i don't if it's like two twin brothers

00:33:24.700 in college fucking each other they can go have fun with it you see how you justify some sort of

00:33:29.820 sexual deviance and you equate it to a consensual marriage i'm not thinking of like sexual

00:33:34.300 deviance in some spiritual plane usually what i'm thinking about is like what is causing harm to

00:33:38.100 society what's minimizing harm to society and what's maximizing the autonomy for the people

00:33:40.780 people should be allowed to make these choices and choose these things to do make them happy

00:33:43.880 hurting other people i think that's generally how i view things but if you're on some sharia mindset

00:33:48.120 or whatever i know i can understand why you would want to make some forms of masturbation or incest or

00:33:52.020 whatever illegal okay all right peace what's your wait what's your next thing you're doing is it the

00:33:57.740 jlp thing that's tomorrow and then yeah i have some some videos to work on now i've been working on my

00:34:03.980 have you seen my my new videos that i posted because you're like oh the old sink is so much

00:34:08.180 better blah blah i made um this video called how i learned to love the unabomber and this video

00:34:12.120 called rat race i felt like i tried to watch it and i saw jewish shit popping up and i was like

00:34:16.000 there wasn't there wasn't any jewish shit in there okay maybe there was i don't know how i learned to

00:34:20.900 love the unabomber is a good one that's that's a good one and i mentioned you in it gotcha all right

00:34:25.260 i'll keep i'll check it out okay you're not gonna check it out bye i will bye be careful

00:34:29.140 all right cool

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SNEAKO - July 04, 2023

SNEAKO Debates Destiny About Tristan Tate

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