SNEAKO - December 28, 2022
SNEAKO Debates Destiny about Ye "Antisemitism"
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 5 minutes
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220.80655
Summary
In this episode, we talk about the new year, the holidays, and our new year's resolutions. We also talk about our favorite Christmas movies and what we are thankful for in the past year. We also have a special guest on the show this week, our good friend Molina!
Transcript
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I mean, it doesn't take a blue-haired people to not want to fuck with your politics.
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It's never gotten to the point where I've been uninvited for Christmas.
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Yeah, but has it ever gotten to the point where you're publicly defending people saying they love Hitler?
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That's probably a pretty big departure from stuff you've normally been involved in.
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On Jesus' birthday, Jesus would want everybody to be loved.
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And I tweeted, I love Jews and Nazis, which is what Jesus would do.
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And I like the fact that he broke that final wall of the woke mob saying that.
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I don't think the problem is just saying we should love everybody.
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I think the problem is saying, like, I love Hitler, and I don't think the Holocaust really happened.
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I mean, it's a beautiful place, but I don't have internet yet, so I'm like living on hotspots.
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Yeah, their subreddit's pretty mad at you for that.
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I got to yell at you all the time about the vaccine.
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She was in New York, and now she's on her way back, I think, in a couple hours.
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uh yeah we were gonna do christmas in new york but then i don't have internet here and i've just
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moved and i spent a fuck ton of money the earlier this month so i just wanted to stay home and work
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so we're just gonna celebrate christmas in miami instead you're rich though you're a millionaire
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yeah because i'm frugal with my money though i don't like to i spent a ton of money i spent a
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ton of money recently okay what'd you get me for christmas um i got you a giant yay sweatshirt
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balenciaga yeah it's got a mask over it and everything um
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bunch of what's um how are you doing i'm good man i'm streaming on rumble where a lot of people
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in my chat are saying w hitler we're just uh okay w911 a lot of people that they're saying
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you know we have a very polar opposite chats now i recommend at any point just like just
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look at my rumble chat it would make you laugh damn do you have to sign in to see the chat uh
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yeah and you don't have a rumble right i have a locals account i don't think i have a rumble
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account well hold on let me call you back um without the camera my shit's fucked up yeah
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you hear me yeah how do you feel what's your new year's resolutions
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um beating factorio it's the most important thing in my life right now
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then what are you gonna do after like you gotta know the games to play
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uh i'm probably gonna focus more on like politics stuff um because i kind of neglected a little
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bit of that the past couple months so yeah you were very drama heavy for a while it was going
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back and forth about this and it was like a netflix murder documentary hearing all your
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what do they call it your orders get in fights yeah going to war with each other it's pretty
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interesting what happened to the philosophy too when i first talked to you you were talking about
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oh i'm big into philosophy and everything was all about um drama for the most part or political
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stuff i didn't hear i didn't hear any of your philosophy takes chat to fix the echo relax
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um i mean the philosophy usually will end up going hand in hand with like the political issues
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right things like ethics and everything will kind of go um yeah we'll usually come with
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political stuff but if i haven't been doing much politics we're probably not doing much philosophy
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you don't get bored of gaming all the time you're like really factorial is the number one thing i
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can't believe that was the number one thing you just said what was the number one thing i just
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said you said your new year's resolution was being the factory game oh well i want to beat it because
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i want to be done with it so that i can like focus on other shit but i've sunk so much time
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into this now i can't just like quit what's next um well like i said it's maybe heavier focus on
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politics and shit um in the next year for sure because i neglected it a bit this year because
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shit got like really crazy in the last half of this year with keffles and you and fuentes and
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mr girl and fucking lav and like everything just kind of got well that is politics me fuentes and
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a lot of that stuff even kept falls to an extent is politically involved stuff me and fuentes
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especially we went from doing these panels doing these debates to actually like working on a
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campaign yeah um when i when i say politics i mean like doing like big like digging into like
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policy like doing more like uh historical research um like that kind of stuff so like this for
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instance what i did with ukraine this year was probably my favorite stuff that i did um because
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That involved, like, a whole bunch of, like, historical analysis.
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It got me some very good conversations that we're interested to have.
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It's, like, a modern-day, like, relevant issue.
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So, like, that was, like, a fun thing for me, yeah.
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I just got back from Nebraska, like, four days ago.
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We hung out, did stuff, played around, ran around.
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Oh, yeah, I saw you made a good Destiny's Child joke.
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he liked your blue hair yeah that's good why don't you dye his hair blue um no people who
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dyed her are losers okay i don't need my kid to be a loser you're calling yourself a loser
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i doubt it for listen i get paid to dye my hair is different okay how much do you get paid
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well it was for charity technically so people in your chat are saying sneaker what's your
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new youtube burner account i don't every time i make a burner account i get banned you know
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the annoying part of getting banned destiny i can't even like read chat or comments i have to
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sign into friends accounts i have to do all this how are you why are you still not um unbanned on
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youtube i mean on twitter um because i'm left-leaning i think elon only wants to unban the
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nazis and shit come on no i think so i don't think i'm ever getting a band because i would
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have gone unbanned by now if i was ever going to because in my mind when he did his announcement
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for unbans i feel like i'm like the perfect candidate for that like oh like they're banning
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if people like me are getting permabanned and the policy has probably like been a little silly in
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the past but i haven't gotten unbanned yet and all these other like far right like accounts have
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gotten unbanned from years ago so i think it just he doesn't really care about that kind of stuff
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he's probably more interesting like conservative type figures okay but alex jones is still banned
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and also i didn't get it for free alex jones is banned but i think that's because he's looking
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after his bottom line he's just scared about like fucking copyright shit or not copyright shit or
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like defamation shit or whatever crazy shit alex jones is saying but i didn't get it mine back for
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free i know you i don't know if you're calling me a nazi but i had to someone paid 20 000 to get me
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on band who paid 20 000 to get you on band do you know uh iman gaji i saw you reacted to hamza
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recently he's pretty similar but more finance oriented the guy's extremely rich like selling
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courses and stuff like that he has a good youtube channel he got me a band he just did it i didn't
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even ask him wait did he really charge you that much i didn't pay he he just paid it he said uh
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there you go interesting you could do that too i mean i know you just said you've been spending a
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lot of money no i've i've i've looked through those um avenues like sometimes you can pay for
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services like that on like facebook or instagram or stuff like that um but that's only if your
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account got banned for really silly stuff um but i don't know um yeah you can't you're not
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gonna get any account otherwise you would just get your youtube unbanned right yeah what's your
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predictions with that i've been seeing mr beast and elon talking about starting a video sharing
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platform on twitter do you think that that's something possible in 2023 that gives me hope
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that um rumble won't be my only possibility if i was you i would invest and build in rumble i don't
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know i am i i do are completely investing in rumble um but i would have no hope for twitter
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i think twitter is he's running that shit into the ground like speed running it into the ground
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i can't believe he's twitter's never been better twitter has never been more fun it's never been
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more exciting i've never spent this much time on it i in my opinion i've been on twitter for years
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this is the best it's ever been and people are starting to blow up there uh just that's just
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absolutely not true the whole checkmark thing was a fiasco that product got like delivered
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canceled redelivered he's like introduced like a second checkmark thing i don't think that product
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rolled out like they wanted it to um i know they've had issues with advertisers pulling out i
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don't know if they've all come back or not yet um you've got people at the shareholders at tesla
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because that company is starting to slide in value.
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Musk was saying he was looking for other investors
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He's dumping like billions of dollars in stocks
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like I don't think Twitter is going well at all.
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And this is like making me want to get into a debate
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about like the type of information that you ingest
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because you're supposed to think that Twitter sucks.
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Hold on, stop, stop, stop, stop, wait, wait, wait, stop.
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You're being a bot because you think this is, like, a leftist or conservative thing.
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I'm just interested in Twitter from, like, a business point of view.
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I'm not talking about, like, he's not being liberal enough or progressive enough or any of that shit.
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Because if that was the case, then here are the bot talking points, okay?
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I'd be saying, like, Twitter's gotten a whole lot worse because there's way more, like, racism and sexism on Twitter these days.
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There's a lot of people that are being like really hateful.
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I'm saying that one of the big product roll-ups that he did, his expectations were way too high.
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He wanted to be getting 50% of the revenue of the company coming from subscriptions.
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That roll-out didn't go as well as planned, right?
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He's laid off a fuck-ton of workers, but he's still having to – like all of these things I'm pointing to, these are objective business facts, right?
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If it hurts your feelings to hear that, I'm sorry, but this is not like –
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Okay, now you're making a complete argument that I'm not saying it doesn't hurt my feelings, but it depends on what information you digest.
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No, no, I'm just – yeah, but if you want to disagree with something I'm saying, then feel free to submit like a disagreement.
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But when you just go, oh, you're just giving leftist talking points, that's a bot talking point.
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Well, everybody on the left that I see on Twitter, all the leftists hate Twitter and they have different justifications for why.
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They're saying that the advertisers are leaving.
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But everybody on the right is saying that the advertisers aren't actually leaving.
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The reason he added views is to show the fact that Twitter has never had more engagement than ever.
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It seems like it has a good opportunity for 2023 to be the new mainstream platform for free speech.
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If you actually look at it, the Instagram stock is going down.
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Instagram doesn't have the same feel as it does anymore.
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In my world, in the right way world, people who aren't based.
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Meta stock is up six points over the past month.
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So I don't know what you mean when you're saying, like, meta stock is going down.
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I don't know what the fuck Twitter's current valuation is at.
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Twitter lost 50 of its top 100 advertisers since Elon Musk took over.
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So is that why you think Elon Musk wants to step down as a CEO?
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Probably, because he's a disaster running the company.
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he's insanely incompetent yeah what makes you think he's incompetent because he doesn't know
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how to run the company he doesn't know what he's doing getting rid of all those getting rid of all
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those employees was the biggest w i've seen from a ceo firing you have no idea if that was a w or
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not twitter is better twitter is objectively more interesting now how it's not but it's not more
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interesting this is okay your issue is that you can't you can't look at this like a business
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you're looking at this like a like a child's playground right when you say that twitter is
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better you're thinking of the posts that you see on twitter and that's fun i'm thinking about
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twitter i'm evaluating from a business point of view from a business point of view every decision
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elon has made has been failure after failure after failure right now there might it might be
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better because people are having like fun conversations and saying wild shit on twitter
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i agree with that there's a lot of crazy shit on twitter people talking that's the best basis
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that's the best metric of how it's going to be successful is that the twitter stock isn't actually
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down is it well you it's not you can't really say that sorry um when we talk about the price
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of a stock um usually we're talking about what people are willing to buy and sell a share of a
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company for that's listed on a public exchange but when elon musk bought twitter he took the
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company off the public exchanges so it's not a publicly traded company more it's a private trade
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privately traded company so there isn't like a price for the stock anymore
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does that make sense there is no twitter is it possible that all the information that you're
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seeing is because the mainstream platforms are afraid of losing their their spot where everybody
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goes for news and now people are going to go to twitter for news and so they need to paint this
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picture that it's losing and that it's bad and everything basically if everybody that i'm seeing
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everybody i talk to everybody that i'm interested in saying that twitter is interesting that should
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be the best metric to determine whether or not it's going to be successful if it's objectively
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more fun to go on say if cnn msnbc all these things are saying elon's failing elon's failing
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that's because they feel threatened because people are not getting their news from cnn anymore
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they're going to twitter um okay i i can't yeah i don't know how to argue with you
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like if you're telling me like well my friends are saying it's better that's fine i'm just
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arguing from a business point of view that's what you're saying you're saying it's more
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interesting it's more entertaining man that might be true but i'm just saying from a business point
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of view elon personally is making a lot of spooky decisions that might even be rattling like tesla
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stock seems like he's not competently running twitter as a platform very well it might be more
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interesting right now just because like people are having fun conversations on it but from a
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business point of view doesn't seem like he's doing too hot okay you said that you said that
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point a couple times but when you look up like when you look up twitter stock right now you see
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abc news electric cnn all they're saying twitter's failing twitter's failing twitter's failing
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they are probably just trying to paint a narrative that twitter's down so that people think that
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twitter's bad when in reality that can't be the case like they it's in their best interest to
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make twitter seem bad especially if somebody who's for free speech is taken over they need to make
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twitter seem bad okay i i don't know how to argue with you like these are you're just giving your
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feelings right all i can speak are numbers and facts okay like tesla your numbers and facts are
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coming from where from the markets tesla as a company has lost two-thirds of its value in the
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past fucking year that's really bad elon musk is selling off tens of billions you just said that
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the twitter stock exchange and now you're saying that it's devalued no no tesla tesla the other
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company that elon musk owns the one that he's like getting all of his money from to pay for the debt
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from from his twitter loans that he that he leveraged all of his stock to take out loans to
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buy right that company's losing a fuck ton of money the shareholders over there are very fucking
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upset because a lot of these companies float or trade on like elon musk's reputation that he's
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running into the ground running twitter right so that's why he wants to step down as ceo so he
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can pass it off to somebody else twitter is going to do well in 2023 he'll probably step down and
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pass it off to somebody else his reputation is bad because mainstream news and people like you
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they want to paint it like he's a bad person and he's making no bro you're not don't be a bot you're
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being a bot when you're saying this what's bot about what i'm saying elon musk is making objectively
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bad decisions and objectively bad statements when he's going on and talking publicly if you want to
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talk about his statement what's an objectively bad statement what multiple ones when he goes on
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name one sure when he goes on to a twitter space and he's saying things like twitter needs a full
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rewrite and somebody's like what do you mean what's wrong with the stack bro and he's like
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who are you and he starts crying when elon comes out and he says things like can advertisers really
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pull out of my platform that seems illegal maybe i should sue them these are insane statements when
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people come out and elon is being asked about like hey do you offer targeted advertising on twitter
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and he's saying, well, I don't think that's possible.
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that are objectively, factually fucking stupid, right?
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And that's on top of all the other business stuff
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He's incompetent when it comes to running this company.
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Maybe you're just mad because you're not on band yet.
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Okay, just, you're emotional, and you don't like to, when I attack that, Elon.
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I just gave you fact after fact after fact, and you go, well, I think that you get upset.
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No, you paused the factory game to go yell about facts.
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It's not a fact that it's stupid because he's talking in a different way about advertisers based on your opinion.
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No, it's a fact that he's stupid because he doesn't know about targeted advertising when that's been the norm for the better part of the last decade at least.
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oh, we just made the full fucking Twitter mobile app
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Like, bro, what are you even fucking talking about?
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He's just stupid when it comes to everything having to do with this company.
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He was like pleading to the courts to let him out of his deal that he agreed to sign on to.
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He knew that when he bought the company, he overvalued it massively.
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People that own stock like made out like bandits.
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being able to take over mainstream news and being able to own public discourse is something that's
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going to be really valuable in the long term people don't people don't trust the news at all
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anymore more people are going to twitter to digest the news than they have ever been compared to
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mainstream news and of course right now the bot talking point the leftists are going to be saying
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like oh it's bad elon's a child they're going to want to insult some ethan decline will get on a
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stage and complain about elon say fuck you but in the long term decentralizing information and
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bringing it back to twitter and a public square is a better investment for the future i think a
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of what you're saying is stuff the leftist news wants you to think because they don't like elon
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no hold on do you hold on okay hold on i watched so many of your old videos this is the only reason
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why i've entertained this conversation so much i know that there's like an intelligent young man
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inside that brain of yours okay this is like the third time you've said leftist bot talking points
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all i've given you are straight raw facts i have not given you a single i haven't mentioned hate
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speech or racism or any political statement whatsoever everything i'm giving you is facts
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and you keep running behind this like lefty talking points you're saying it's a stupid point
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you saying elon's stupid is not a fact it is when he's making stupid statements do you disagree that
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any of the statements that i just referenced are stupid do you want to go over any of them i'm not
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sure if those are stupid okay i'm telling you they are you can bring in a programmer you can bring
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somebody that works in advertising you can bring in like anybody else in the industry and ask them
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and they'll tell you the same fucking thing like elon is like a laughing stock right now for
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everything having to do with twitter like the people at tesla want to kick him business people
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fuck politics bro it's not about my people the people at tesla want to kick him off the fucking
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board there too because he's nosediving the value of his fucking company there are people that aren't
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buying cars now because of how fucking insane he is on twitter it's an electric car company it's
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marketed towards leftists who care about climate change and a bunch of that psyop bullshit they
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they're like electric cars it's different because elon used to represent leftist ideas and now he's
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can see it as this right-wing martyr it's okay well let's say let's say that even let's say that
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i grant all of that to you okay if your primary fucking market is leftists then maybe you should
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be careful if that's the main company that you're borrowing against to buy another company in order
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to keep your shit afloat maybe you should shut the fuck up then and not lose your primary fucking
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customer if i were to grant that that would be like he still has like better decisions to make
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than going onto twitter and acting like an insane lunatic and then losing his primary
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fucking customer base because he's talking about targeted advertisers is a giant stretch
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insane lunatic because all of these twitter leaks have been a fucking joke because all of the
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statements that he's making about like voting for conservatives uh and that's the most important
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thing to do and uh fucking fauci needs to go to jail over the fucking vaccines all of these
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statements are unfounded conspiratorial nonsense he doesn't need to be making them and he shouldn't
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be because he's the ceo of what he's representing a lot of different companies when he's out there
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how would you feel if you'd invested six seven eight figures into some of these companies and
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Now, the cheerleaders out there for the company, the CEO, acting like a fucking clown, tanking the value of your fucking investment.
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I think Elon genuinely cares about the future of free speech, and this is more important.
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He's taking sacrifices right now for the business and for the people like you.
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He's taking sacrifices for being an idiot, for retweeting bullshit about, like, Pelosi's husband.
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He's not even, like, he's not taking hits for free speech.
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He's taking hits to act like a crybaby, like a little emotional snowflake.
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Bro, if there was a leftist with Elon's voice and mannerisms, yeah.
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Hey, guys, we're going to talk about Twitter today and what I'm going to do.
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Bro, if Elon Musk was a leftist, you guys would be making fun of his appearance and his voice and his mannerisms fucking constantly, okay?
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Let's have this conversation again in six months.
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Metastalk, people in my shadow are saying Metastalk has been down 65% this year.
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Over the year, yeah, Metastalk has gone down a fuck ton.
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But you mentioned over the past month or two, I think is what you said.
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And over the past month, it's been up six points.
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Because obviously, Zuckerberg is cutting a lot of the VR shit out.
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Meg Sneaker watched the Twitter space clip of Elon muting text
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and asking engineers who they are for pushing back.
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I think it's the one where he talks about needing a full rewrite.
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all right let me know when you're ready to go we'll start at the same time where'd you
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where's the clip oh shit hold on it's taking a second to load okay
00:22:47.240
the audio is going to come through yours or you want me to play no no you've got to click it we
00:22:52.260
have to play it at the same time okay three two i play there's as high as possible
00:22:58.260
yes i mean i think frankly if you want to have a really high velocity of features i think the
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or a bunch of engineers sit down with a whiteboard
00:24:04.360
what do you mean who am i i don't know you gave me the fucking mic i got no i didn't give you
00:24:09.480
well i i'm i'm doing the mic and let's let's keep it let's keep it civil in my space
00:24:20.660
yeah like what no no man you're in charge of the servers and the programming whatever
00:24:38.640
What's so abnormal about this stack versus every other large-scale system on the planet, buddy?
00:24:56.800
first off first off let's keep my space simple you know like yeah he should have he should have
00:25:04.120
known more than just or said anything at all right yeah i think he i mean that was a pr stunt like
00:25:12.940
him saying rewrite because that first when he first joined he like he opened up the closet and
00:25:16.920
there was a bunch of the shirts that said stay woke i think he basically meant like the whole
00:25:21.620
idea of twitter needs to be changed but he didn't he didn't know anything about the code specifically
00:25:26.180
they need to be okay but like this is so a lot this is a lot of people are gonna miss this okay
00:25:31.500
but this is one of the reasons why this particular clip is so painful in my opinion and 92 percent of
00:25:38.060
people are gonna miss this in the public is that elon's excuse constantly for being such an
00:25:43.580
autistic fuck about everything that he does is well i'm an engineer well i'm an engineer well
00:25:48.920
i'm an engineer okay that's why he's bad at pr that's why he's bad at speaking that's why he's
00:25:52.640
it's like okay fine so when you get into things like maybe development or engineering that would
00:25:57.500
at least be the one area where i would expect him to say something like intelligent but here he
00:26:02.140
sounds like every clueless middle manager ever guys we need to rewrite the stack what the fuck
00:26:07.120
do you mean rewrite the stack what the fuck is wrong with it well we just need a full rewrite
00:26:10.400
yeah going in yeah but i don't know if that's if that could determine that he's an incompetent
00:26:16.140
ceo of twitter of course he just didn't know he didn't know past he didn't know past rewrite and
00:26:22.920
He's like, oh, Elon's going to change everything.
00:26:24.660
He should not have called that guy a jackass for asking a legitimate question.
00:26:40.480
I can accurately recommend tweets to you that you don't explicitly follow.
00:26:46.120
It can, by the same token, also show ads that are relevant to you.
00:26:53.440
So the way that a lot of platforms do ad sales and a lot of purchasers expect ads isn't necessarily,
00:26:59.580
I'm going to give you these ads and I trust you to serve them to the right people.
00:27:02.880
It's usually almost the opposite, where it's, I want to target this group of people in this region who went to a Jiffy Lube in the last 72 days.
00:27:16.120
a lot of ad buyers now expect and like it's a huge part of how cpms can get so high on platforms like
00:27:22.720
youtube but sometimes these advertisers will serve entirely different versions of the same
00:27:27.380
ads please he's just talking nonsense thanks um so uh the the i've actually talked to the
00:27:36.220
advertisers if twitter can yeah okay they didn't he didn't play the whole clip but yeah he's being
00:27:42.960
too dismissive especially in a twitter space that's the whole point of the twitter space open
00:27:45.880
discussion i that's not that can't determine that he's an incompetent ceo just because he didn't
00:27:50.240
want to hear this random guy tell him about targeted ads well what would you well okay well
00:27:54.360
the fact that he says that like that's not how it works and then he gets like upset when somebody
00:27:58.700
explaining like really basic things and again i encourage anybody that wants to you can go to i
00:28:02.000
think you can probably type in like buy ad facebook you might have to make a business account or
00:28:05.360
something but like you can target like ads like crazy um you can do it with ad sense as well like
00:28:10.000
of course that's what you're going to be looking for and yeah that's why cpms are so high on these
00:28:13.420
platforms is because like you can target an insanely precise audience that's like i prefer
00:28:17.480
his method i'm tired of targeted ads means that they start listening to you and they start checking
00:28:21.020
your emails to figure out like you know when you say like the word wine and then it shows up in
00:28:24.700
your targeted ads a couple days if less surveillance mean if i can you'd rather see
00:28:29.060
random ad or like looking yeah i would rather pay subscription model than be spied on all the time
00:28:33.780
okay if you'd rather pay subscription model that'd be fine but there are products for that
00:28:37.760
right that's what do you so do you own like youtube brett well i guess not for youtube um
00:28:41.680
but okay um what what would be if i could say if it's free if it's free then you're the product
00:28:48.220
and then they're mining your own brain and they brain and yeah of course yeah which is fine
00:28:52.360
i honestly prefer the subscription model i think that's that's better for the future and not
00:28:57.780
everybody wants a blue check i get it but i think that's better i i don't like i don't think most
00:29:01.960
people prefer subscription models if you just start paying for everything the internet i think
00:29:04.500
people are gonna get pretty not everything but it's a sacrifice i would rather pay than have
00:29:08.760
be spied on all the time and be sold constantly okay um here's a question what would you have to
00:29:15.200
see um what would you have to see to be like okay fuck elon is fucking up so advertise is pulling
00:29:22.900
away that doesn't do it for you um investors at tesla getting upset him potentially stepping
00:29:27.420
on a ceo i think it's completely irrelevant and i think the best metric because it's brand new
00:29:32.380
he's only been on for a couple months it's twitter like it is more entertaining like there's
00:29:37.440
no objective so entertainment factor that's the only thing that matters that's right now because
00:29:41.920
it's brand new the fact that it's it's 10 times more and i'm even sure everybody in your chat
00:29:46.140
will agree that twitter has been 10 times more entertaining since elon's taken over we will see
00:29:50.720
in a couple months and we'll see how the stock is doing and how the numbers are doing because
00:29:55.080
like the subscription model is brand new there's no way to actually measure it right now but the
00:29:58.280
fact that it's more entertaining i think is a good sign for the future especially for this is
00:30:02.140
what it's for it's it's meant to entertain us okay the tesla thing is pretty important because i'm
00:30:06.100
pretty sure that fucking like 95 of like elon musk's net worth is like wrapped up in twitter
00:30:11.080
right i think that's first personal net worth but you're thinking too much about his personal
00:30:14.520
network in the pr rather than the future of free speech it's a bigger conversation yeah but it's
00:30:18.920
it's sure but he has to manage that as a ceo that's part of the like responsibility of being
00:30:25.560
a billionaire is that your image and your profile is going to have a dramatic impact on companies
00:30:30.480
that are essentially stock that's traded on your rep, right?
00:30:38.320
But if he keeps making the calls behind the scenes
00:30:40.600
and he keeps actually advocating for free speech,
00:30:48.000
and especially like people like us are getting censored
00:31:06.620
Like all flights are tracked in the United States
00:31:11.380
And then two, didn't he explicitly say multiple times
00:31:32.740
He was suspended for a couple days when he got back.
00:31:37.040
That guy jumped on the car, he was being watched
00:31:56.920
yeah the account is still suspended what's the date of that article i just checked the
00:32:02.660
account right now the account is suspended how is that not doxing
00:32:06.200
because it's it's just the location of an airplane after it's landed that's what doxing means
00:32:12.900
it is it posting someone's location in real time is doxing
00:32:21.100
interesting okay also i worry for his safety right now you have to admit that they definitely
00:32:30.380
do not like him you the mainstream news doesn't like him all the people in charge don't like him
00:32:34.060
maybe there's an argument to be made that he's part of the globalist agenda because he wants
00:32:38.440
everybody to be part of neural link but as of now he's public enemy number one when it comes to all
00:32:42.820
everybody in leftist media he has a target on his back and he needs to be careful like i actually
00:32:47.080
Then don't fly a private jet that gets tracked by the FAA, whose, like, location is listed publicly on websites that can never be taken down.
00:32:56.420
I think you go to, like, flight radar, and you can just search for any flight you want.
00:33:00.320
I told you, for instance, that Molina was flying here.
00:33:02.300
Like, you can go and look up her flight right now and see exactly where she is on the air if you look at it.
00:33:06.640
There's a difference between, yeah, I see what you're saying.
00:33:14.480
So, yeah, you can go and look at where flights are.
00:33:50.380
There's got to be, like, some Chinese shit open.
00:33:54.500
Mel gets home, I think, in a couple hours or something.
00:33:57.440
If you want me to go out, it would have to be pretty late, though, but I don't know
00:34:00.940
There's got to be, like, some Chinese food or some...
00:34:13.020
There was, like, a China buffet near me, and they were closed, so I was pissed off.
00:34:15.820
so that's what jews usually eat on christmas is some chinese place do you know that um this is
00:34:19.980
the first year uh i'm not going home for christmas they don't my like i have a blue hair woke family
00:34:25.960
kind of like you and they're they don't mess fuck with my politics at all i mean it doesn't take a
00:34:31.260
blue hair people that i want to fuck with your politics like it's never got to the point it's
00:34:35.640
never got to the point where i've been like uninvited for christmas yeah but has it ever
00:34:39.860
gotten to the point where you're like publicly defending people saying they love hitler like
00:34:42.880
that's probably a pretty big it's probably a pretty big departure from stuff you've normally
00:34:46.840
been involved in i support what jesus would do on jesus's birthday jesus would want everybody to be
00:34:51.500
loved and i tweeted uh i love jews and nazis which is what jesus would do jesus would love everybody
00:34:58.380
i agree with that statement i like the fact that he broke that final wall of the woke mom saying
00:35:02.880
that i'm not saying i'm not a not i don't think the problem i don't think the problem is just
00:35:08.340
saying we should love everybody i think the problem is saying like i love hitler and i don't
00:35:12.120
think the holocaust really happened i think that's i didn't say that i never said but that's what
00:35:16.220
you said so when you defend parts of his statements you're kind of implicitly buying on to like the
00:35:20.200
other parts as well no that's that's not true but people don't really dig into that so what's
00:35:24.800
happening i actually recently i don't know if you saw the daily beast wrote an article calling me
00:35:27.900
racist for joining yay's campaign which is absolutely crazy like i understand where elon's
00:35:32.720
coming from because this has a an effect on people's lives people who are so brainwashed
00:35:36.180
and and plugged into this these ideas they see uh sneeko joins uh racist youtuber joins yay's
00:35:42.000
campaign even though i'm on rumble they're like oh my god they're destroying our name and they
00:35:45.660
are they're putting all this they're just trying to pay me as a bad like who it was a white dude
00:35:49.280
writing this article calling me racist who the fuck do you think i'd be racist to if i'm joining
00:35:53.660
yay's campaign it's it's absolutely jews i think is probably what people are thinking yeah but
00:35:59.160
those the jews would also argue that they're not a race the same ben shapiro argues that oh well
00:36:04.120
Jews aren't a race. It's a religion. That's the biggest misconception, even though they are race.
00:36:08.560
No, there's no shot Shapiro said that. I can't possibly believe that.
00:36:16.860
Fuentes told me that, and that's a big reason why he doesn't want to debate him, because
00:36:20.120
that comes down to identity politics. If you believe in Israel and if you're pro-Israel—
00:36:24.360
Bro, Nick is one of the biggest identity politics people in the world. What do you mean?
00:36:37.100
One of the biggest points that he debates is the fundamental changing of the character
00:36:40.700
of the United States after the 1965 Hartzeller Immigration Act, that it changed the character
00:36:45.440
of the country because we got so many brown people because of stuff like familial immigration.
00:36:51.080
Go and ask him that if he could restrict immigration from non-white people, would he do it?
00:36:54.300
He's going to tell you, yes, that this country should look more like white Christian people.
00:36:59.780
ask him about what the founders intended the united states to look like in terms of like racial
00:37:03.800
demeanor you should seriously like ask him these aren't even like tricky questions just ask him
00:37:07.380
what he'll say well like what do you think if he thinks that like black and brown people intrinsically
00:37:10.620
have like lower iq than white people i would even want him here well that doesn't make a lot of
00:37:14.080
sense if the fact that he's the communications director for of the first dark skin that first
00:37:18.240
like actual black president ever that doesn't make sense like why a black guy that's talking
00:37:22.280
about how much he loves hitler that doesn't make sense yeah well that wouldn't if he said
00:37:27.540
doesn't that make more sense than literally anything else in the world isn't that the
00:37:32.340
perfect thing that makes sense okay if he wants the country to to be perfectly white then he
00:37:36.480
wouldn't be the communications director for a black the first black president
00:37:39.640
do you think there's anybody that is as popular as kanye that nick fuentes could work with right
00:37:46.060
now trump i don't think trump wants to work with fuentes didn't trump publicly disavow fuentes he
00:37:54.000
disavowed him but at the dinner he said uh he was really impressed with nick and he said that
00:37:57.440
Nick's really smart. He was complimenting him a lot. I think after the GOP was disavowing him,
00:38:02.240
he was like, oh, this guy had, I don't really think he actually disavowed him. He just said
00:38:05.300
he didn't know. He didn't know that Fuentes was showing up to that dinner. He didn't know anything
00:38:08.720
about Fuentes. Fuentes probably showed up and was well-spoken and Trump being Trump was like,
00:38:12.260
oh yeah, it seems like a nice kid. He knew about Fuentes. He knew that he knew,
00:38:16.220
he put the face to that guy's name. He knew that he was leading some of the Stop the Steal and he
00:38:19.920
was at the, he was at January 6th, but he didn't know exactly who the person was, but he was
00:38:24.140
impressed with him and i think that in another circumstance trump trump would benefit greatly
00:38:28.780
from having from having fontes on but basically the point is like the the fake news mob is is is
00:38:34.360
very strong and now it's happening i mean it happened to you too and i'm surprised you didn't
00:38:38.120
shift at all especially like when i mean i'll go back to us getting played in the senate but they
00:38:42.340
they have uh they completely have a monolith on groupthink and look like it's it's affected my
00:38:48.940
personal life like now i'm at the point where now i'm streaming on christmas talking to you talking
00:39:09.040
is not coming from a place of loving everybody.
00:39:19.660
And that's what people are reacting and responding to.
00:39:23.100
yeah i'm wondering what's your predictions for for that campaign
00:39:28.260
for what yay's campaign yeah i think he'll get bored and drop it in a month or two
00:39:32.840
but i could be wrong but that's what he did last time he was running for president
00:39:37.180
do you think that how do you think it's going to change
00:39:41.480
public discourse because nobody's talked about this there's nobody
00:39:44.920
been that vocal about jews since hitler um i mean it's making everybody a lot more worried
00:39:52.220
about like fucking anti-semitic shit in the united states so it's having that impact at least
00:39:56.580
um but like in terms of lasting changes and shit i have no idea i don't know
00:40:03.600
none of the none of the like anti-holocaust stuff that doesn't none of that gives you
00:40:09.940
pause for concern or anything i understand questioning it i understand people's apprehension
00:40:15.920
the fact that you have to say six million you have to say six million but um one of the statements
00:40:20.600
that like that triggers me and i don't get triggered often but like saying uh i don't
00:40:25.220
care about your dead grandma or i don't care about your your dead like there's these people
00:40:29.780
are still alive you know there's people that survived it that are still around to this day
00:40:33.520
i think that's that's um a bit insensitive and even a lot of people in my chat would disagree
00:40:38.900
with that but imagine going up to a black person say i don't care about your your dead slave family
00:40:51.760
damn geez what your factory game uh no just just the the wild path your life has taken
00:41:03.580
it's just yeah it's been uh it's been a lot since i first spoke to you like it's it's been a it's
00:41:08.820
been a wild year like what what have your end of year reflections but this is this has been by far
00:41:12.740
the craziest year of my life like i was i've been doing a lot of reflecting thinking back like when
00:41:16.520
i first spoke to you i was a brokey in brooklyn just like like kind of talking about like still
00:41:21.200
doing youtube stuff like that since i first talked to you i've met andrew tate i've met yay
00:41:27.580
part of this like woke mob came after me canceled by big tech um distanced myself from like a lot
00:41:34.680
of people don't want to associate with me anymore it's been a why it's been by far the most wild
00:41:39.600
year of my life and part of like that first conversation was like the like the first domino
00:41:45.120
but to end up here now it's like anybody in your chat too can you like imagine being in that
00:41:50.220
in that position like what do you what's your end of your reflections like you've been streaming for
00:41:55.560
a long time is this been a abnormal year is this regular um i mean every year gets a little bit
00:42:00.780
more crazy than the last it's just kind of how it goes what do you i'm just curious and i'm not
00:42:05.140
like saying because i mean i guess at the end of the day you think i'm wrong and i think you're
00:42:08.180
which is fine um i understand the difference in opinion but like what do you ever worry or what
00:42:12.820
do you do personally to like keep yourself from falling down just like a really bad hole of like
00:42:20.180
fuck i might be completely wrong on everything and like realizing that like too late do you ever
00:42:25.060
worry about that what do you ever think about that no i never wrong about what anything everything
00:42:32.180
what what what's one thing that you you think that i could consider being wrong about
00:42:37.000
um it's it's not it's it's not so much like disagreeing about a particular thing
00:42:43.180
so like for me personally one of the biggest fears that i have in life because i'm a streamer
00:42:47.660
um so i have a fan base that has a vested interest in and i could have a vested interest
00:42:52.180
in having a certain political opinion right have you ever heard have you ever heard of the term
00:42:55.000
audience capture no um audience captures like let's say that i give a whole bunch of like
00:43:00.560
ultra blue pill takes like all day every day um well what's going to happen is my audience is
00:43:05.080
going to come to expect me to say that and so what if i run into a problem in the future to where
00:43:10.220
like i want to give a political take about something and i don't agree with the blue pill
00:43:13.320
shit but now i feel like i'm forced to because like my audience wants me to yeah that's called
00:43:18.740
audience capture oh no i have that all the time i i go back and forth my chat my chat saying like
00:43:23.140
walaban w taliban whittler every single day i had um a jewish woman on yesterday like the chat was
00:43:28.900
just um a lot of it a lot of it's trolling because rumble is a free speech platform so people are
00:43:33.020
able to say whatever the fuck they want but like people are you know being like like she's a she's
00:43:39.700
a satanist she's the devil she's a succubus and i i openly disagree with them on that but i think
00:43:44.660
it's good to have back and forth um and i i don't think that's ever going to happen because part of
00:43:50.160
my brand is is being able to to to learn and to add information to go back and forth and to to
00:43:55.780
change my opinion about things I like to actively grow and learn on my streams I know I don't I
00:44:00.400
don't see myself getting myself boxed in there and I don't think I hold any like hardcore
00:44:04.140
if you look like to the core of my beliefs it's like I I try to follow God and I don't trust
00:44:10.240
people who want to control me so I our first discussion was about how much we trust the
00:44:14.380
government you trust the government and I don't I ultimately my worldview is down to the fact that
00:44:18.700
people who want to keep me controlled and people who want more money do not have the best interest
00:44:23.660
of the population in mind they want us to be controlled and they want to keep us as pawns
00:44:27.980
and i don't see myself ever changing that belief because that just makes sense if you look where
00:44:31.380
the money goes that's where you find the truth if you follow the money you could see where the
00:44:35.460
truth lies and i don't see that ever changing okay so do you mind if i can i ask you a hard
00:44:41.540
question or hard questions yeah i'm not this is gonna sound like i'm grilling you but i'm
00:44:44.520
truly just interested um do you believe me when i say that do you not believe me about audience
00:44:49.960
capture no no no that i'm like because it's like there's two there's two ways and i can understand
00:44:54.240
especially at this point because of how different we are especially politically um like you can
00:44:58.180
either think i'm asking questions because i'm interested or you think i'm asking questions i'm
00:45:01.180
trying to get like a dunk for my audience to like no i think right now i think you're genuinely
00:45:04.440
interested this this is like uh okay yeah gotcha all right just curious okay so this is like a
00:45:10.200
problem that i have from my perspective when people usually say this thing like oh we just need to
00:45:14.880
like um i'm just asking questions i'm just asking questions that's like a really common thing that
00:45:18.280
I hear a lot. Okay. Um, I think that just asking questions and doing your own research, I think
00:45:23.200
that those are two things that are actually really good. I think those are amazingly good
00:45:26.440
things to do. But the issue that I run into is that every time people talk about like doing their
00:45:30.700
own research or asking questions, they don't actually do any research. They just kind of like
00:45:34.300
listen to like a, like a podcast person or they just like take somebody's word for it. Or they
00:45:38.820
watch like maybe one YouTube video. That's like, what's your definition of research? Like academic
00:45:42.780
articles um sure like like uh like reading a variety of articles um like getting a variety
00:45:48.640
of news sources like seeing like well what is the mainstream what does the alternative media have to
00:45:51.660
say what does a historian have to say what does an expert have to say what do people on the ground
00:45:54.860
have to say like getting like a variety of sources that's what i do i professionally interview people
00:45:59.120
i interview people on the street i have debates people regularly people like you uh people who
00:46:02.880
believe in antidepressants i i take in a lot of different information i challenge my beliefs
00:46:06.960
consistently way more than the average person does sure i guess my question is like in regards
00:46:12.000
to because the thing that obviously every is blowing up for everybody is like the holocaust
00:46:16.440
related stuff um if people want to be critical of the holocaust like well i don't know like do
00:46:20.200
we just have to believe every figure like without anything else like is that really how it's supposed
00:46:23.760
to go doesn't that seem kind of shitty um and i agree that it could seem kind of shitty but like
00:46:28.020
have you ever done any like actual real additional research on the holocaust where you're like
00:46:33.840
breaking open a book or like watching i've read books i've watched a lot of documentaries
00:46:37.680
stories i cross reference and stuff i learned in school and different historians there's even a lot
00:46:42.360
of people that that say that i'll talk about a world war ii historian that i read and then people
00:46:46.480
be like that's a bot historian you need to read this guy and then i'll check out this video from
00:46:50.920
a different religion you have to yeah i do so okay so then here so here's like another hard
00:46:56.860
question and if you don't want to answer any of these by the way you don't have to okay so i'm
00:46:59.600
not trying to like make you like blah blah blah um do you think that like um i'm just trying to
00:47:03.360
because i know what fuentes believes on this do you think that like six million jews like actually
00:47:06.840
died do you think that number is massively over inflated or that it's about right or like do you
00:47:11.000
have any opinions on like number of people that have died in the holocaust okay here's my answer
00:47:15.700
because i don't want to get put on a no-fly list but sure there's no wait never mind you don't even
00:47:20.440
have to no answer i'll answer i'll answer i don't want to get a no-fly list like i i don't i but
00:47:24.720
what i can confidently say is there's there's no way to know that like if it's gas chambers
00:47:28.840
how are you going to be able to count who's counting six million corpses it's impossible
00:47:33.880
there's no way to actually track that just like in any other war and any uh complete genocide
00:47:40.340
there's no way to actually know how many people it is and just the fact that they say it's six
00:47:44.020
million no more no less is is a very weird number and the fact that like you're called a holocaust
00:47:49.000
if you even question that number it sets off alarm bells in my head so it could be a lot more
00:47:52.860
it could be less but like actually six million there's absolutely especially if it's gas chambers
00:47:57.640
there's no way to know that who's doing the tally marks okay so this is a okay so this is a good
00:48:03.960
example what i'm talking about so i think that that question is a really good question but i
00:48:10.520
think that that's like the very first question that you would ask so my question would be do
00:48:15.980
you know how they tallied up the dead people or have you not looked into like even that most big
00:48:20.020
because i'm only going by earlier you said you'd watch documentaries and you'd read multiple books
00:48:23.400
and you'd consulted multiple historians do you know how they came up with the numbers of how
00:48:26.720
many people died during the holocaust when it comes to world war ii there's different information
00:48:30.540
for for all of this i've heard every single side okay but like doesn't it seem like that should
00:48:37.560
probably be like a pretty basic like answer in terms of like well how do we know how many people
00:48:43.000
died during the holocaust right like it feels like that would be like the first thing that a
00:48:46.900
historian probably go over right world war ii to my understanding is the most studied historical
00:48:52.860
event in all of human history bar none world war ii is the most studied event a lot of historians
00:48:57.640
it's still relatively modern you know getting into like uh lots of sophisticated record keeping
00:49:02.040
um a lot of different actors involved like world war ii is insanely well studied do you really
00:49:06.740
think that that six million numbers just like pulled out of nowhere and nobody's really thought
00:49:09.780
about it of course people thought about it but like even not just article i pulled up it's like
00:49:13.760
they're saying um and this is encyclopedia.org says towards the end of war nazis attempted to
00:49:19.640
destroy much of the documentation and of course there's there's so many conflicting ideas and
00:49:25.360
there's so many different personal interests with all these countries the entire world was remapped
00:49:28.820
after world war ii there's just i don't think there's any way to wait hold on the entire world
00:49:35.080
was not remapped after world war okay that's an exaggeration but all of europe was remapped
00:49:38.960
all of europe was not remapped after world war ii pretty much pretty sure most of the original
00:49:44.100
border now there were a couple of countries that got um cut up to the southeast but it's not like
00:49:48.280
France and Germany and the UK and like Italy and all these countries like redrew all of their
00:49:53.080
fucking borders okay a good part of Europe was remapped after my point is that there's there
00:49:58.500
were so many different interests from all these different countries there's I don't think I can't
00:50:05.400
be convinced by any like what historian everybody has their own personal interest who could you
00:50:10.860
trust when from what nation everybody has different biases when it comes to this who could you
00:50:15.760
actually trust when it comes to this a consensus of historians working across multiple countries
00:50:21.000
to like figure out what's going on right and then the alex jones people will say like okay but
00:50:25.760
historians from all different countries are trying to push the global agenda so they're
00:50:29.640
going to push one specific narrative there's yeah but the alex jones people how many of those people
00:50:34.180
are like speaking german and then digging into historical archives to figure out like what
00:50:40.600
happened historically you know during world war ii like are these real people that have done real
00:50:44.860
research or are these people that are like screaming about like uh twitter posts that they
00:50:49.000
saw right like wouldn't you weight that differently like a lot of world war ii historians especially
00:50:53.320
this deal with the holocaust it's it's kind of like doing like moral philosophy like they speak
00:50:56.160
german like nobody will take you seriously talking about deontology you can't fucking read
00:50:59.560
kant like in the native language right and it's the same thing too i think for a lot of world war
00:51:02.280
two researchers like a lot of these people will actually read german because they want to read
00:51:05.540
the original documents relating to a lot of the historical events that they're going over
00:51:08.340
and you would compare somebody that's like digging through archives to like alex jones who's going
00:51:43.220
i think alex is a pretty big uh i'm not even denying the holocaust i know the holocaust
00:51:47.560
happened just the baseline point is that they say well but your idea is that sure do you think the
00:51:53.020
dresden bombings were about as bad as the holocaust uh no probably have you heard that talking about
00:51:57.620
okay because that's the talking like it's not it's never a full-on denial that's like old school
00:52:01.440
that's like stupid like old nazism right the new neo-nazi talking points are like well no of course
00:52:05.600
the holocaust happened but there's probably like a few hundred thousand jews not six million how
00:52:09.600
could you even know the numbers could the gas chambers really run that fast if you were trying
00:52:13.440
to bake six million cookies and you only had 11 ovens working full-time where are the smoke clouds
00:52:17.780
weren't the doors made out of wood right every single one of these points is addressed by
00:52:21.840
historians if you take the time to like read any of it but it feels like a lot of people don't
00:52:25.380
actually take the time to dig through it they just say like they do their own research and then they
00:52:28.060
don't i guess like ordinarily it'd be kind of like a whatever meme like i don't really care much
00:52:32.200
but like when it seems like anti-semitic rhetoric in the united states is like on a huge upswing
00:52:36.400
and then like people like you are kind of like being responsible for driving more of it i don't
00:52:41.540
know i just think it's a little bit sad you think i'm pushing anti-semitism yes absolutely what what
00:52:46.460
part of what i said is pushing anti-semitism when you say things like i think that the number of
00:52:51.400
jews killed during the holocaust is grossly exaggerated that's an anti-semit i didn't say
00:52:55.740
i didn't say it was exaggerated i'm saying there's no way to actually know i didn't say that it was
00:52:58.940
it's less so you think more than we think more than six million jews could have been killed i
00:53:02.820
think it's impossible to strictly determine that it was six million i didn't say more or less sure
00:53:08.300
i can tell you why it's anti-semitic right if it's impossible to know why do we use that number
00:53:13.260
i mean it's it's very effective at silencing any anti-semitism the adl and all these yeah okay i
00:53:21.120
really don't want to get debanked but like that sure i know but but that's it so that talking
00:53:25.540
point is anti-semitic right the idea that jews are leveraging the holocaust in order to shield
00:53:29.800
themselves from criticism that's an anti-semitic talking that's not right that's just true that
00:53:33.840
they use that they they use the they use the holocaust to silence anybody who has any criticism
00:53:39.040
towards uh jews and you don't see any other race and i constantly say that black people should be
00:53:44.980
able to do the same thing with slavery and they don't jews have used that to to become stronger
00:53:48.480
they use the holocaust to completely prevent that from happening again it's not anti-semitic
00:53:53.500
it's smart firstly black people first of all black people do use that okay we just had the
00:53:58.640
whole fucking blm riots okay i don't know if you remember those or not so black people in the
00:54:02.680
united states absolutely do talk about their history as well i don't know if that was black
00:54:05.200
people that were benefiting off of the blm right okay it was blm but regardless there was more
00:54:09.620
black violence during blm there has been in the past okay that's fine and there are more people
00:54:13.380
that defend jews than just jewish people right there's white people too right so like like i
00:54:18.500
defend all the time i defend you know i don't you think it's possible don't you think it's possible
00:54:23.260
that one of the reasons why they want to like keep reminding people of this so that you don't
00:54:26.940
like slip back into that anti-semitic world exactly you have a yeah but now you're doing it
00:54:32.480
we're not agreeing you're saying that they're using it as a shield from criticism i'm saying
00:54:37.620
maybe they're just bringing it because they're worried that like another fucking holocaust might
00:54:40.560
happen i mean it comes from the same place they don't want another holocaust to happen they've
00:54:44.400
used that to band together and become stronger no those are two wildly different claims how
00:54:49.100
saying like hey don't forget this because i don't want to get fucking genocided again
00:54:53.280
it's a lot different than saying like they're using this to increase their power so that they
00:54:57.160
can have israel be the rightful ruling country okay it started with that and now it's very
00:55:02.080
useful and having ultimate power ultimate what is the ultimate power silencing any criticism and
00:55:08.800
shutting people up as soon as they criticize as soon as they say anything yay said defcon 3 i'm
00:55:13.300
gonna go defcon 3 and jewish people and then they completely look at how much power they have now
00:55:16.780
because for so many decades they've said 6 million 6 million 6 million they got to the point where
00:55:20.960
they could just shut you out like that if i were to tweet out like i'm going defcon 3 on black
00:55:25.940
people or trans people you will be fine you will be fine he said slavery was a choice
00:55:32.980
several years ago nothing happened okay first of all no he got a ton of heat for that statement
00:55:38.300
i don't know if you're not he got dragged on twitter he didn't get debanked he didn't get
00:55:42.060
all of his he didn't lose his adidas deal he didn't lose every bro he didn't lose his bank
00:55:46.440
accounts yeah because that was a random they just called him dumb lost his chase bank account shit
00:55:50.680
was gone before he even made those fucking yay statements he lost the adidas deal sure but the
00:55:54.980
chase shit he was talking shit about that bank way before he made any public statements for it
00:55:58.460
i'm pretty sure he was talking shit about the entire executive team because they weren't treating
00:56:01.220
him how he wanted to be treated but regardless of that yeah chase bank was after the defcon 3
00:56:05.560
statement google it go i don't want to do every single story with you okay but google chase bank
00:56:09.940
drops yay and that decision had been made because of comments that he'd made about the that bank and
00:56:15.300
the executives prior to any um weird nazi shit um the adidas deal um i'll admit that the adidas
00:56:22.740
deal was lost but the statements that he started making about jews were even more extreme than the
00:56:27.880
statements that he was making about uh black people in slavery so i mean like that's not
00:56:31.460
that surprising i don't know how is it more saying slavery was a choice did you even have you even
00:56:37.480
listened to kanye's comments about that yes okay what did he mean when he said that
00:56:42.260
saying that when you're enslaved for that long and you continue in that place then
00:56:48.220
then eventually it becomes a choice if you stay enslaved after a certain amount of time
00:56:53.360
kind of close kind of yeah what he's saying is that like slavery becomes like a state of mind
00:56:59.080
essentially right that like you can do a certain amount of time you get yeah yeah you get locked
00:57:03.940
into these mental patterns you know um so you don't lose your adidas deal for saying for talking
00:57:11.260
about any other ethnicity any other no no but if he was out here saying like black people deserved
00:57:16.080
slavery or like slavery was fake or i don't think it happened or whatever or like black people should
00:57:20.200
be happy they were enslaved in america's gonna say they got to come and live here when it's way
00:57:23.540
better than living in africa if he would have said shit like that he probably can't equate that to
00:57:27.520
his comment he said i'm gonna go defcon 3 on jewish people that's that's not all he said he
00:57:31.080
said i loved hitler he said he didn't believe in the holocaust he said the jewish people
00:57:34.540
control the media that was after all of um all the cancellation
00:57:38.000
okay i love hill and everything was after the cancellation saying i'm gonna go defcon three
00:57:44.960
on jewish people that was what got you okay let me just i just want this to be entered in the
00:57:48.400
record so when people go in fact because you're wrong on us i know you're wrong on us but you
00:57:51.380
can you can say it clearly you think you think you know that statement but do you think that
00:57:55.700
i'm gonna go defcon three on the jews you think that's the only anti-semitic statement that he
00:57:59.940
made for adidas to drop him that was the only one that he made because it wasn't but you but i just
00:58:05.020
want to hear you think you think that you think that's the only statement that he made what else
00:58:08.180
do you think it was i i don't remember but he was doing a lot of weird like tweeting and speech i
00:58:12.620
think didn't he give that thing in front of the cars but was that before the adidas thing in front
00:58:15.680
of the car was like i'm not gonna say who did it with the jews no red media red media was after
00:58:20.500
that was after the defcon 3 tweet was the first one okay did he say did he say like i can say
00:58:26.660
anti-semitic shit and adidas won't drop me was that before adidas dropped him that was before
00:58:31.140
adidas dropped him yeah okay um but yeah i would have to go back and look at it but i know he made
00:58:36.700
more statements than just that one tweet i don't know what you're talking about okay
00:58:43.860
well anyway what else is that where have you been have you been like traveling back and forth
00:58:50.080
between here and LA it's on lately no I um no I've been uh I've been in Miami if we uh
00:58:57.320
I want to talk about this eventually but like yeah you don't have to reveal anything you're
00:59:01.840
good yeah it's um there's a lot that I want to talk about eventually but I just don't want to um
00:59:07.100
it was it's really weird like uh meeting him after after all these years listening to his
00:59:15.520
music for so long yeah and all that it's there's so much that i want to say but i don't want to um
00:59:21.500
you know yeah it's it goes it's he's uh definitely there's nobody there's nobody
00:59:32.980
like that i've ever met what do you think he's autistic
00:59:35.460
jesus um he's something wait what do you do are you allowed to say where you live now in miami
00:59:43.640
Like, I moved to Miami Beach, so that's why I'm just curious.
00:59:52.600
But he thinks people only say that to him to try to lock his mind away, so I don't know.
00:59:59.400
He tweeted out, like, how they were trying to take away his children.
01:00:04.120
He's been, like, very transparent about how Hollywood tries to control you.
01:00:11.680
Chappelle's talked about that a lot, too, right?
01:00:13.140
That was his whole thing for leaving and everything.
01:00:15.100
Did you even notice when he did that SNL speech, he gave out that statement before, like just
01:00:19.820
making sure he was reading that piece of paper saying, before I get into this, I love Jewish
01:00:29.500
I think he said it like it was a joke in a Chappelle way because everything he says sounds
01:00:37.460
No, that was genuinely a joke because he kind of sort of almost covered for Ye a bit during
01:00:43.120
that fucking uh stand-up routine that was definitely a joke yeah for sure what do you
01:00:47.460
say that that covered him um he would yeah he was making jokes about like uh i'm not saying every
01:00:54.460
jew is blah blah blah but if you go there they might all be jews like he was making like a lot
01:00:57.720
of kind of like backhanded jokes like that like i don't think he was 100 a disagreement with
01:01:01.360
he also wasn't completely defending him either it was he was just made mostly doing like
01:01:09.280
observational humor he did a good job of playing both sides and getting the liberals in new york
01:01:19.580
oh fuck i need an account you do you have to copy paste me what you what do you want me to
01:01:27.240
say i don't know okay um all right man enjoy your factory game thank you uh what what time
01:01:36.060
you think you're gonna be done streaming fuck i don't know melina doesn't get back to like really
01:01:39.440
really really late so i'm not sure um yeah but i'll i can i'll shoot your text when she's here
01:01:45.300
if you want to go out and see if we can do something all right cool make sure to use a
01:01:48.380
good uh picture of me when this uh when your editor clips this up tell august he's listening
01:01:52.620
okay august yeah august like he's gonna make a picture of me looking like completely like manic
01:01:56.840
like sneaker is anti-semitic i don't think i've said anything anti-semitic i i'm genuinely not
01:02:03.340
an anti-semitic person um i know you i know you're saying you're not but like just just as one more
01:02:08.400
time for like maybe three people in your audience i guess to get this understood or whatever the
01:02:12.540
reason why hollow like holocaust revisionism is considered anti-semitic because people usually
01:02:19.340
claim that the holocaust is either grossly exaggerated or entirely fabricated i didn't
01:02:24.720
say it was i've never said it was exaggerated but you're playing you should care no you should care
01:02:29.000
If you're going to call me anti-Semitic, you should care about that.
01:02:31.260
When you say things like, how could we know the numbers, right?
01:02:42.180
There's logs of people entering and leaving camps.
01:02:52.180
They're not just like throwing darts at a board.
01:02:54.640
And if you do a little bit of research, you can stumble upon all the different ways that they track people.
01:02:57.900
if you really care about it history is written by the winner and no that's not true history is
01:03:02.120
written by historians that's why there are negative things recorded in history about the
01:03:05.680
united states of america even though the united states of america has won the vast majority of
01:03:09.100
its wars that's why in the united states even though where's the nazi historian where's the
01:03:13.340
nazi historian who was part of that and then has now written logs about what happened they got
01:03:18.740
wiped out or they're in argentina they haven't gotten written wiped out there's plenty of people
01:03:22.600
david irving was a huge writer trying to vindicate fucking hitler's record and that dude ended up
01:03:27.340
going to court trying to sue people over calling him a nazi and he lost on the facts when his shit
01:03:31.540
got reviewed so no there are historians even today and he was a guy that dug through the archives and
01:03:35.560
went through records and read original fucking shit in order to figure what he's saying no there's
01:03:38.680
tons of people today there's tons of historians like a lot of topics are debated hotly among
01:03:42.040
these academic communities i know but just listen to how even if like just me questioning the amount
01:03:46.980
i get labeled anti-semitic by you just questioning the amount of people
01:03:50.940
it's because the problem is that you don't understand like you just don't understand
01:03:56.220
someone asking the question is like like you understand you can do a lot of like damage by
01:03:59.800
asking certain questions asking the question is anti-semitic okay if i were to walk around
01:04:04.500
is that what you're saying are you saying asking question is anti-semitic it can be part of it
01:04:08.800
yeah that's absolutely insane and that's that's how free speech dies if i were to walk around
01:04:13.560
no no no no you're the one killing freedom of speech okay where because you're not asking real
01:04:20.020
questions you're playing word games because if you are asking real questions like how do they
01:04:25.260
know how many Jews died, you wouldn't even ask me that. That's a Google search away. That's
01:04:29.120
literally two minutes of reading, but you haven't even done that. So you're not really asking
01:04:32.540
questions. You're making points. You're disguising those points with question marks. And that's why
01:04:36.880
people are claiming it's antisemitic. Free speech died. I never said it was exaggerated. When people
01:04:41.620
pretend to ask questions and bad faith actors destroy the discourse, then we can't have free
01:04:45.700
speech anymore. You're assuming by me asking a question that I'm making a statement that it's
01:04:49.260
grossly exaggerated. That's never what I said. But you are. And I genuinely, I genuinely don't
01:04:53.820
believe you think okay do you think that it's the case that maybe way more Jews died in the in the
01:04:58.980
Holocaust that's possible okay what do you think is more likely more Jews or less Jews if Jewish
01:05:06.200
people are using this story to drum up support for Israel and Jewish people across the world
01:05:10.100
would they exaggerate it would they underplay it I don't think there's a way to know and then I
01:05:25.500
All right, well, anything else you want to go over?