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SNEAKO
- September 22, 2022
SNEAKO DEBATES HATERS (1 V 4)
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Length
22 minutes
Words per Minute
233.27017
Word Count
5,252
Sentence Count
3
Misogynist Sentences
8
Hate Speech Sentences
9
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walmart fresh and fit i'm walmart tate yeah i was saying walmart tate yeah not walmart fresh and fit
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okay why am i walmart tate and why were you asking me to come on your podcast but now
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i'm walmart tate that i didn't want to be on uh well i want you to come on for a debate
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debate about what a whole bunch of name one name one uh i don't know man i think some of
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your beliefs are a little off grifter out of here bro you know why he's mad you always call me
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i don't think you're a grift i don't think you're a grifter he wanted me to come on his podcast and
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then i didn't want to go on because i had to go on fresh and fit and it turns out they had beef and
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so now you have to talk about down my name when i'm not in here walmart tape but i wasn't walmart
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tape when you wanted me on your show that's all i got what do we even got a debate about
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that's not really true dude i just thought it was pretty unprofessional like flaking multiple
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times in the rail i mean i think as a youtuber there's like a professional courtesy thing right
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which i think most youtubers extend so like flaking last minute after someone announces
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the event is like kind of like i don't know i think a shitty move i had other things to do
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yeah but don't you think it's a little shitty to like let someone make the event and then just flake
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last second and then your excuse is like oh dude they have more clouds sorry i don't know
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yeah that had to be on a bigger podcast so but that makes you a cloud chaser no i know them i don't
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know you you're basically saying i want to i want to collab with people who are more cloud cloud is
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more important to me than my word no not their cloud the fact that i know them i've been on the
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show for months and i don't know you and there's less benefit to go drive out of my way to be on your
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show and you can see the effect now you're calling me a cloud chaser but you're talking down on my name
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when i'm not in the call well yeah because i can't get you on the call because you're flaking left and
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right i'm here right now and you said you want to debate what you want to debate about
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what i want to debate about i mean it's kind of last minute i was going to go through your content
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and like write out ideas um i don't know we can debate we can debate about i think your kind of
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your take on politics is a little off i think that you complain about the system a lot but then
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your advice is like well i don't want to engage in the system i don't want to vote i think it's a
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waste of time so i don't really think you have a leg to stand on complaining about the system if
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you're not willing to vote no i'm willing to vote in a state like florida that's why i moved here
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but in new york it means nothing because it's 99 democratic and it's not going to have
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any effect yeah but you're advocating like when i watched your stream with uh i forget who it was
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but you were saying that like oh i think voting is a waste of time i don't want to vote i think
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it was a destiny stream you were saying oh it's just such a waste of time i'm not going to go vote
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and that's like i don't know i think that's like okay but then don't complain about the system
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yeah but politics and voting means you can only complain about the other side because you're
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pretty much saying that you agree with the other stats i want to complain about all of it as a whole
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and critique the whole thing not one side and not be i'm left or i'm right just the whole system is
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broken yeah i agree with you the system is broken but you're not going to fix the system if you're
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not going to engage in the system no don't you agree that talking about the stream and talking to
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people with thousands of people live is way more effective than casting one vote in a state where
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it means nothing because of the electoral college they're not mutually exclusive no but saying that
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i can't saying i can't talk about politics i don't vote is pretty minimal because i have a voice
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that has way more power than most people when you have a stream when you talk to people directly you can
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have an influence that's much greater than just getting an i voted stick on your t-shirt right
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but when you're saying that voting is a waste of time you're basically encouraging your whole
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audience that they shouldn't vote no it depends it depends what state they're in if they're in a
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state where it doesn't have any effect then yes but also you can agree that the president even though
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i like a lot of what trump said like he changed on a lot of things like wanting to pardon julian assange
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and like campaigning saying that he liked wikileaks but as soon as he got in office he started
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limping for the cia and limping for the suits like the president ultimately doesn't have that as much of a
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effect as we think it does yeah but it's not just presidential election there's your senator
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election there's local elections all kinds of elections as far as i understood your position
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in destiny stream was like voting is a complete waste of time but the system sucks no voting is
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not a complete waste of time but ultimately there's no point in even putting faith into the system
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because they're just going to silence people that disagree with them a u.s senator of michigan
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just played me in a senate committee and said that i'm promoting hate speech and terrorism
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basically they don't want people like me to talk the whole system is against me it's not left or
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right it's just pile of people in that sense of power don't want people like me talking right but
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how are you going to change the system if you do nothing about if you don't go vote like doing a
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live stream you're not really going to change anything by talking people's minds you can you
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could weigh people up you could have a way wider reach by talking to people rather than going into
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a poll and voting and thinking that you're doing something but don't you think it would it would
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make more sense to in addition talking to people to encourage them to go out and vote for issues
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for people like i don't know uh tulsi gabbard or someone like that who's anti-establishment
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yeah tulsi gabbard is good but there's not going to be enough of a push because the truth is the
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vast majority of people are only going to vote for the people that are being really pushed hard
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like the hillary clintons and the joe biden tulsi gabbard is never going to get enough traction
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to really make a difference to make a difference as an outsider you got to be trump you have to be
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wealthy you got to be rich you got to be provocative you have to trigger the entire media
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tulsi gabbard just too tame enough to really get she would never win right but this kind of goes back
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to my issue with you is that you're encouraging apathy basically it's just like this kind of
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fatalistic mindset that everything nothing is going to change and on some levels i agree with you that
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there are a lot of issues with the system it's just that you're not going to change anything if you're
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not willing to take action there's more things than you can do just vote you can protest you could
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donate to causes there's like what kind of protesting and don't want what are you saying protesting
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yeah i'm not saying i'm going to protest i have better to do did you hear that echo saying the
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you can do and when you're just like encouraging apathy saying like oh dude like nothing's all right
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man you go protest for climate change and sign some petitions and donate to ukraine but that's
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just not going to do anything i'm not going to protest dude i got way better to do i'm just
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saying you could so you said that because that's what makes people feel better and makes them feel like
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they're doing something but ultimately we know that's a giant waste of everyone's time
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so you're saying engaging in politics in general in any way is just a waste of time protesting is
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not engaging in politics that's going outside okay take pro take protesting aside just take like any
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kind of uh uh uh let's just take voting in local elections and voting in federal elections we went
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we talked about that many i said that in some states where swing states it could be effective but
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ultimately no okay so okay so your position is that it's mostly useless but in some situations
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it can be useful i understand the point in trying to encourage people to vote but ultimately like
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one person it doesn't have that much bigger effect and the politicians we elect aren't going to change
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anything because the system is the way it is power corrupts and the politicians aren't the ones
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pulling the strings of the people with all the money i don't disagree with you terribly on this
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position i mean i think i have a little bit more of a less of a pessimistic uh like perspective on
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this but okay fair enough the other thing that i would say that just top my head i think you're off
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about is you seem to from what i've seen in your streams i'm not trying to make this as a personal
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attack you seem to believe like every single conspiracy theory that exists no i don't i just
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had john jerker on and i was talking back and forth he believes the earth is flat i don't
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do you think 9 11 was a conspiracy i have a strike on my channel right now so i want to be very careful
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about what i say about that but it's hard to believe that two planes destroyed three towers
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and there's a lot that they lied about the fact that the plane crashed in the field in
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pennsylvania and the remains flew six miles away and the plane went underground when it landed
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like 60 underground a plane crashing when 60. the pentagon a lot of the stuff that was there is
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fishy about it but no i don't believe it's a conspiracy because i have a strike on my channel
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i don't want to spread misinformation okay i mean i think we get the answer do you think that uh the
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moon landing did happen stanley kuber filmed it okay so you do believe in pretty much every conspiracy
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theory besides flatter well name another one there's there's so many conspiracy theories
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okay well we just named two big ones i don't know what's another one jfk
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are you really going to tell me you know what the cia didn't assassinate that one
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no i agree with you on that one you can make a good argument i just got to think of another one
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one thing that i found interesting that we're bringing up is they were we were actually
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previously this is where i was fighting with alex was about tate versus you um and they were
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saying that you agree with most things that tate says is that actually true do you agree with like
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basically everything he says about like relationships i think where i disagree with him is when it comes
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to some parts of what he says about relationships we have to understand is that his movement is trying
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to empower men in a world which is actively trying to suppress masculinity so a lot of what he says is
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trying to inspire men to become stronger and to take the lead in a relationship but i pretty much
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agree with the stance about everything else and inherently i think a lot of guys do when they
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hear him talk it's like i've this is stuff i believe my whole life but everything is telling
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me to not believe in this and when they realize that he's saying what we deep down know you start
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to see the brainwashing you start to see how they try to to pull that out of us sneaker is there anything
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that you disagree with andrew tate on that you can name um off the top of my head uh what about you
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what's something you disagree with uh with andrew tate on um there's a few things i mean i think that
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he places way too much importance on uh material possessions so uh he also in indirectly encourages
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almost like a sugar daddy type of relationship where you're the girl's provider you're paying for
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all her bills uh i'm not a fan of that
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yeah but that motivates me to make more money and take control i i mean i'm not a materialistic guy for the
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most part i wear like simple clothes stuff like that i don't have a bugatti i just drive a i got
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a charger you know i'm not a material person for the most part i like to have nice things but i think
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a lot of that was for social media growth and i think they flexed a lot of that to gain attention
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i don't think they're as materialistic as you think they are like for example the guy doesn't
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wear jewelry he doesn't wear flashy diamond jewelry but every millionaire right now in miami where i'm at
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or any guy at the club is now who's trying to flex his own shiny jewelry everywhere they go
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gucci bags you know designer shirts and stuff like that that's what everyone's trying to show
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you don't see them doing that like you see tristan tate for example um he's always on my
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stream talking about how like i'm wearing oh this is a lizard skin suit this isn't but it's not
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materialistic he buys it because i think they like to like dress like classically gentlemen
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i don't think they're as materialistic as people think i think people just get
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um blindsided by the bugatti talk i mean don't get me wrong i like andrew tate but the point
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i was trying to make to kala is that you agree because she was saying that you guys are quite
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different i was saying literally sneaker agrees with pretty much every single thing that andrew
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tate says and maybe i'm wrong but if you can why do you think we disagree
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yeah so there's two things that i think that are really disparate about you for example this is why
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i'll basically always say like i think there's a couple things about you that i really like that i
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don't think andrew tate has one of the biggest ones that i really appreciate about your content that i
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don't see in tate is you engage in what i call epistemic humility right when we had our conversation
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you talked a lot about how you don't know the answers you don't always know the answer to
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everything and you're pretty open and honest about that whereas tate basically comes in
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and he's acting like he's at the end on and on the other side and like he knows all the answers
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he knows everything that's true like he's the top g um and like speaks with authority on his
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prescriptions for everything um so that's one thing that i think is different in more of your
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style of engagement than it is about like your rhetoric another thing that i've noticed that's
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really unique about you that i realized in our humanizing conversation is tate typically describes
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the ideal man as a very rigid one thing typically like a very traditionally masculine highly stoic
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like provider leader etc etc etc whereas you seem to have a broader range of what you include for men for
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example you and i talked about emotionality and artistry i don't think andrew tate has ever really
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talked to me about men engaging in art or engaging in like the emotional pieces that are reliant on art
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which i think is a really unique piece that you bring of showing like masculinity can include these
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pieces right i think they're different people but i the my initial point was that sneaker agrees with
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like every single andrew tate position but they are different people they live their lives differently
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they're different ages entertainers the late 30s sneko correct me if i'm wrong you're in your early 20s
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yeah yeah i mean i talked about that with tristan on my last stream i was talking about trying to
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talk about like artistry and stuff like that and i've been thinking a lot about this subject and i'm
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wondering like how much it has to do with just how much testosterone you have like for example destiny
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is a really smart guy and i think the reason that his position on the world is the way it is is maybe
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he's just less masculine than a lot of guys you could probably assume that like if he if he had to
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balance out the estrogen and testosterone level maybe he's at like 60 percent maybe the reason that
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i'm here on your stream kyle talking about like emotionality and artistry is maybe i'm like 80
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masculine and i have like 20 the feminine side that's why i talk about love maybe guys like myron on
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fresh and fit or tate or the guys who are just like fuck bitches get money maybe it's like more testosterone
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maybe it's 95 compared to like five percent maybe you could just boil it down to that maybe it's not
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world view it's just what you are as a person wait that doesn't make any sense though if that's the
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case then guys on steroids are just going to be yeah then i would be like ultra yeah yeah exactly so
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that means alex is like the most masculine man of all time it's also strange right do you talk about
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sensitivity or anything um yeah from time to time i mean i'm definitely not as far on that spectrum as
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like andrew tate is i mean you know i'm not like soft either but i do talk about having emotional
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connections uh being able to open up and stuff like that yeah i do talk about that see this is what i
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think is interesting right what like i would say basically that you sneko are more correct about
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what men can be than tate is for example like they might say like you might say like yeah they're 100
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like of the mask and has zero percent of the femininity and i would argue that's probably their
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problem right like even if you look at like some of the great like look at like the spartans like look at
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some of the most like giga chad historical men they were oftentimes very concerned with aesthetic
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right they were very poetic artistic oftentimes like engaged in horse riding so all these things
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that nowadays that we would want to like dismiss as being like soy or beta or feminine like these like
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alpha men were engaging in and so i think like mostly what's happened is andrew tate and tristan tate
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are buying into like an extremely shallow version of like what men can be that i think does you're
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calling it a problem is it a problem or is it just the way they are i would say it's a problem because
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i think that they could be more than that but for example andrew tate used to be a chess like his dad
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is a chess master um and he used to play chess too there's nothing that's hyper masculine about chess
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right and that's fine by the no it is girls don't play chess sure they do i mean like the the greatest
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chess masters to the botas twins yeah like of course there's no female trust grandmas okay if
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it's nico nobody in high school looks at the like dirt like nerdy dude playing chess and goes like wow
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what a giga chat i for sure want to you have to move to a game with a very masculine type of presence
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yeah when you think of a club do you think of a sorority or do you think of a bunch of dudes no matter
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how nerdy they look is there any girls in the chess club when you picture them in your head
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uh usually there's some but when i picture the dudes they're all like dudes that would usually
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get called like soy losers no they wouldn't get soy losers maybe nerds but not soy they're oftentimes
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like you know they're like they've got the little lunch box chess is a masculine sport it's two people
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it's competition it requires a lot of strategic skills it's kind of like war chess is not a girl's game
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i mean i think chess is cool i love chess i used to be really good at chess but i do think generally
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speaking that people play chess are considered like nerds but back to the initial question so
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okay so sneko so you could not think of one thing you disagree with tate on like in terms of his
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positions and philosophy i don't like how he says um i'm one of god's favorites i don't like that and i
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talked to to tristan a lot about uh about god and like our position on religion and sometimes i wonder
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how much people believe in and jordan peterson said something that i think uh sums up my point of
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view on this he says that he doesn't really believe in god but it's better for him to follow
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that for most people and i think people like jordan peterson recognize the influence they have
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and maybe when you get to a certain level you realize that a lot of people probably don't even
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believe in god but they realize that it's better to spread that message for the vast majority of
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people that listen to their videos and i'm finding myself with a similar position right now because i have
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a lot of religious people that watch me and i i say i always talk about god and how like it's good to
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follow god but i struggle even believing it fully like the religious people do but i do find it's
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better to follow that and to follow god's rules and so i wonder and people like tristan and andrew
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are talking a lot about god because it's just like what you're supposed to say in that masculine position
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and then how much they really believe it because when andrew says like i'm one of god's favorites that's
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that's a sin that's a sentence because you're made in god's image god wouldn't have a favorite
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that makes no sense i mean i would say it's pretty hypocritical i have no problem with saying
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anything about god if they're religious but if you don't believe in god you're saying that oh
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you know god is awesome like that's kind of hypocritical that's like saying like oh don't
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with dating apps but you're on tinder like every night yeah but there's a there's a balance between
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recognizing something is wrong or recognizing something is bad and then also partaking in it's
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like i'm not gonna tell anybody to do cocaine but i've done cocaine before you know i'm saying like
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i wouldn't tell people and encourage people to do it but you can also partake does that make sense
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but that that's basically where i disagree is that i can i can see a level of ego and andrew that i
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personally don't have like yes i think highly of myself but i would never think like and say i'm one
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of god's favorites do you not like him saying that just because it sounds like really cocky or
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because you don't actually believe in god i think it's it's the first part it's the cocky part i don't
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think i don't think god would pick favorites and i think that's that's you that's literally
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you thinking that you're you're better than other people okay yeah which i understand can be earned
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based on accomplishments and achievements but that's i don't know i don't think hopefully i
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never get to the point where i think that that i'm that much better than other people i mean my
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understanding was the reason he says that is just like bravado he's just kidding i didn't know he
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actually said that like seriously i would speculate that he's just saying that just to like around
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uh but i guess i can't say what's inside his head uh okay is there anything else that you
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would say you disagree with the tates on no okay so that's the point that i was trying to make kyle
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is like and again this is coming from someone who likes the tates but their positions are extremely
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similar yeah but then what do you disagree with like you're calling me walmart tape because i don't
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disagree with them and it's not like i follow everything they say it's just stuff that i
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that's how i realized that i align with them so much i started reacting to their videos at first when
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i found out about the ethan decline drama and then i'm like well yeah i agree with this i agree with
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this and then i started talking to them it's like i agree with with pretty much everything it's not
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like i'm copying and pasting their videos it's just this is stuff i think the stuff that they're saying
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is stuff that we all inherently know as men but the matrix suppresses out of us yeah i mean that was
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mainly meant to be a joke and the point i was trying to make was that the tates are like i don't know
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like you know they're very financially successful i'm sure you do okay for yourself but you're still
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like very young in your career so like they're like you know the bugatti and you're kind of more
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of like the uh whatever like the sedan car right because you guys believe in the same
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shit but you're not like as high up as them in terms of like finances and cloud and all that
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okay but that you're you're saying a very common statement that i hear all over the internet every
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single that walmart tate taco tate what why why do you think you said that because do you think that
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i'm copying everything they're saying do you think i genuinely believe this stuff or i'm just
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trying to copy a path on the internet that's been already paved
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no i think you believe the bullet trying to copy their marketing strategy and you can tell me if
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i'm wrong on that but i think you believe the stuff you say yeah i don't think you're like pulling these
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beliefs out of your ass or if you are you're a really good actor okay but i mean yeah would you
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say you're are you not adopting their strategy no yeah for sure yeah okay yeah that's that's the whole
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point yeah okay it's a great strategy like get your fans to clip up and put it on tick tock it's
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it's very effective um and my course is doing well and everybody in there uh nicole i'm wondering about
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about you something happened like you reacted to um my interview with erudite and then i saw that
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you're you're flexible i just wanted to learn about that was the other girl no other girl reacted to
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my interview yeah okay her name is tasha torsha yeah i just wanted to date with they look kind of
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similar but she's flexible though you can see if you have more game than me but uh she was pretty
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impressed by my games nicole i don't know if you could compete women don't have game that's not true
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that's not what we saw you gamed so what did you get you got some you got her number uh well i don't
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think we went that far because well we are live on air sneaker yeah there's no way i'm asking your
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number live i can use them privately sneaker you want to take a shot you want to go i know you've
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done this before you want to go on e-day with nicole you i'll even give it to you only if you consent
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and now i will get i have to get a suit on and i need to get a glass of wine the ambiance going true as
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long as you admit that you're starting at an advantage because she's not super into women so i was
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already disadvantaged and i still pulled off a pretty good show so just know you're starting
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ten feet ahead kyla versus sneeko the ultimate who has more game let's see wait kyla you were
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on an e-date yeah with nicole that's what you were watching when you interview when i tuned in that
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wasn't much of a date absolutely oh kyla did you did you enjoy our did you enjoy our date the real drama
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isn't between me and sneaker it's between it's gonna be between kyle and sneeko after that remark wait do
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you think that a woman should approach a date like a man should when they're pursuing someone
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should a woman approach a man with a date no no if i'm a woman pursuing another woman should i
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pursue her in the way a man would
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no i think you have an advantage in not pursuing like a man i think you can pursue like a girl where
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like you could start off with the girl comments like oh my god i love your outfit that's so cute like
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oh we should go shopping together yeah like yeah sure anytime and then she's not really like in tune that
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you're really trying to game her and then by the time you're out like hanging out then it turns into
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a date just magically like girls do yeah it's a lot of body language to cue the the sexual tension
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