SNEAKO - July 31, 2022


SNEAKO Debates Money Vs Spirituality Ft Tykwondoe, Young Don, Playback, Luke Belmar


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00:00:00.000 well but the concept of how they how they view women how they dress and and all that all that
00:00:04.680 stuff you don't think that that is also persecuted especially extreme in the um in america what's up
00:00:09.580 i mean i don't think i don't think women who are voluntarily dressed in a certain way are
00:00:15.500 they want muslim women dress how they want to dress no not not from the not from the muslim
00:00:21.460 woman's perspective from the muslim man's perspective yeah and from the in from the
00:00:27.100 in from the text as well like hey what's up man this is agent on the top left we got low uh this
00:00:33.100 is taekwondo to my left and don to my right you met don before uh chat this is luke this is the
00:00:37.660 the real life neo this guy is um one of the smartest guys i've met and has been helping me a lot with
00:00:42.180 the streaming stuff so i really help you i mean i really thank you for helping me um he's put me
00:00:47.300 onto a lot of stuff and i don't think like it's been a good it's been it feels good that i'm able
00:00:52.980 to talk about this stuff and there's other like-minded people that believe in all the
00:00:55.880 nonsense that i'm saying because when i talk about it they call me crazy but when luke talks
00:00:58.780 about he's very level-headed they like they listen up sorry luke break the break the what's up boys
00:01:05.520 how you guys doing my first time to meet you man nice to meet you pleasure everybody it's my first
00:01:10.960 time officially i'm new to that i'm new to this uh i'm new to the stream shit you know uh i've been
00:01:15.780 i've been on like the instagram game and all that stuff and it was like uh just recently seeing
00:01:21.380 just recently seeing uh people just uh going back to looking for value and looking for truth and
00:01:28.280 looking for community you know it's a it's a cool responsibility too and i called snico about it
00:01:33.400 yesterday i was like dude you have like such a cool responsibility for all a lot of these kids that
00:01:37.880 you know like they don't have role models like the world's fucked we can all agree on that right like
00:01:42.100 there's so many problems we all agree on that and instead of like focusing on the government being the
00:01:47.480 the one that raises our kids or that raises and dictates culture uh we can do it you know and
00:01:52.860 kanye west said it best he said i am culture so just like how we navigate and how we move and
00:01:58.320 being able to inspire the new generation you know that's kind of like the the name of the game you
00:02:02.800 know for the first time social media and influencers are more powerful than um the government itself
00:02:09.840 right so this is the first time it's not that's really crazy we have more influence than
00:02:14.860 it's like a little bit though because the the influence that most content creators have is on
00:02:20.980 platforms where they don't have much control so they have incredible influence but only if they play
00:02:26.520 within the parameters yeah i agree with that so it is limited control yeah yeah you know hitler
00:02:32.340 said it best you tell a lie loud enough and long enough people will believe it and nobody has a
00:02:38.040 louder megaphone than the government they control or whoever or or traditional media or whatever like
00:02:44.360 look at how they're able to like right now is the we're just starting to hear about this monkey pox like
00:02:51.460 like they're they're talking about it crazy on the media but this story broke like two months ago
00:02:56.920 and i and nobody really cared about it no one was concerned about it because i think what was
00:03:02.540 happening was they were deciding on how they wanted to go about like handling that situation keeping in
00:03:09.000 mind the fact that it primarily is afflicting homosexual men you feel me now you say they
00:03:14.480 are you talking about the media or the government whoever whoever it is that pushed the trigger
00:03:18.860 and said hey all right now everybody needs to care about monkey pox because for the last two months
00:03:24.920 more or less people were going about their lives not really conscious about monkey pox and now
00:03:30.260 they're talking about it being the next covid like lockdown epidemic and it's like what nothing's
00:03:38.000 changed in the last two months you know what i mean like i have a question for someone made a decision
00:03:42.920 luke i'm a little curious what you think about this i don't know much about monkey pox at all i know
00:03:47.180 like bare minimum shit but i'm so cynical i just think media and government will do whatever to continue
00:03:53.640 to make more money i think money kind of uh runs a lot of their decisions so maybe they just decided
00:03:59.380 this is something that they could successfully monetize over a long period of time but luke why
00:04:03.260 do you think that there's been more of a focus on like monkey pox or or whatever else right now
00:04:07.960 i mean what i would say is you know you have to look at the source of the information and then if
00:04:13.200 it's usually like non-profits or uh organizations that are free you need to look at the donors right
00:04:19.220 you need to look at the people that are offering these grants and many times the grants actually come
00:04:23.500 from the government themselves so now even this idea of like look at the stats and look at the
00:04:27.940 look at the scientific research we can't even validate that right so there's a theory um right
00:04:34.160 now to me it's all about distraction you know as as nero burnt down rome he would entertain people
00:04:39.280 at the circus and it's a circus right like we give people a way to get out we you know we give them
00:04:45.640 black friday we give them christmas we give them two weeks off but then we're slaving them for 40 50
00:04:50.700 weeks and what do they have to show for it at the end of 50 years bro nothing right and this idea of
00:04:55.660 the american dream uh has failed right like it doesn't work this idea is like look look at the
00:05:01.760 look at the outcome of everything so it's uh i think now we're seeing a movement towards individualism
00:05:07.620 and towards people you know assuming responsibility for their life which bigger entities that want
00:05:13.140 control they don't want to give you that right they don't want you to be autonomous they don't want
00:05:16.620 you to think for yourself so it's so easy to band bandwagon because everybody criticizes and fights
00:05:22.800 and but they like to be in like a place that they can what did you think about what i just said
00:05:28.580 because because i really what do you think about what i just said do you think there is well in
00:05:35.300 regards to you know um the media because of the political slant of mainstream media and that does apply
00:05:44.920 to social media because all of these social media companies are ran by leftist organizations or let people
00:05:50.920 who are who lean very left and we see that by who they choose to censor
00:05:55.060 what do you think about do you think that there is because they're in an attempt to protect
00:06:05.160 a community from criticism and hide the truth about who this disease is primarily affecting and what
00:06:15.220 that may imply about that lifestyle i mean it's no i think i think this i think that's all small
00:06:21.380 petty stuff bro i think it's all distractions you know what i mean like distracting from the big epidemic
00:06:26.540 the big epidemic isn't monkey pox right and that's the thing is like they make you want to focus on the
00:06:31.540 small things uh like a monkey pox thing there's 9 000 people doesn't fucking matter when halfway across
00:06:37.760 the world uh kids are mining cobalt at starting at the age of three yeah but i just learned about
00:06:43.760 that right right of course right so i'm not focused on these small little things the stuff that you see
00:06:49.900 on the news the stuff that they throw in front of your face that's what they want you to see they
00:06:53.620 feed you ukraine the next it's the monkey pox next is the next thing and you're always a fucking
00:06:58.680 on the mill on the treadmill instead of living your independent life doing your research
00:07:02.320 and figuring out what is your goal just fucking working towards it bro so many people are focused on
00:07:06.960 this bitch's life this person's life they there's never any like room for them to sit down and
00:07:12.100 fucking think to build out thoughts to build out their future they're always distracted bro that's
00:07:16.500 the name of the game distraction what do you think the goal of distracting you what do you think the
00:07:21.660 goal of distracting you would be because i just watched a video on that cobalt shit in congo drc
00:07:27.660 yesterday and i was like it was interesting but i didn't think it was like an epidemic uh but why
00:07:33.000 distract us with something like monkey pox from other issues going on in western north africa like
00:07:38.320 what would be their what would they gain from that i mean by day i mean like media or government
00:07:42.340 yeah so so so you demoralize a nation you keep them weak uh and then you just destroy it right
00:07:51.260 from the inside out from natural resource exploitation to human exploitation all these things
00:07:55.860 right and this is this happens since the dawn of man it's not going to change it won't change but
00:08:00.340 what you need to understand is that you can actually be free from it in this in this civilization
00:08:04.420 we live in the richest country that's ever been and half of the people have nothing right so it's
00:08:10.960 the easiest it's ever been to be rich but instead of people focusing on self-development becoming
00:08:15.880 better elevating themselves they're always fucking talking about i'm scared i'm scared and it's like
00:08:21.080 it's like bro like where is your self-development how are you going to progress how are you going to
00:08:24.680 get out of the rat race how are you focusing on everybody could get rich it's not that easy not
00:08:28.900 everybody could get rich so like the focus to me is like is not what's happening out there but like
00:08:34.760 what's happening inside of me because what's happening around me i should be able to like
00:08:38.980 navigate it but initially so many people are focused on the exterior shit they're not focused
00:08:43.320 on themselves it's always like if you're focused it's competitive it stops the competitiveness for
00:08:48.460 going for these resources yeah i mean think about it it's just distractions bro like if i dangled
00:08:53.360 something in front of you because i trained you to love this certain thing right everything's
00:08:57.400 trained behaviors everything's trained behavior so they dangle what's a trained behavior in front
00:09:01.700 of you and then they go out and get the real fucking wealth they'll sell you a fucking the
00:09:04.920 biggest board eight they'll sell you a board eight for half a million dollars right and then you're
00:09:09.500 like oh shit how much can i buy in fucking somewhere in africa land right for half a million dollars
00:09:14.720 like real world things and it's like the the delusion is so crazy you're driving your tesla
00:09:19.840 and then you know like jake trans video it's uh there's kids mining that at the age of three with
00:09:25.560 it with like in the fucking cobalt mines and it's like the point is if so people are so
00:09:29.860 disconnected from reality bro people are disconnected from the reality of the world over here
00:09:36.260 if you're focused with self-improvement it shouldn't really matter to you what the fuck
00:09:40.040 and how the fuck people are mining for your cobalt because it really doesn't affect you all that much
00:09:44.760 you could argue maybe that's a distraction i know of course everything everything can be a
00:09:49.140 distraction but it all has to do with how you perceive it do you perceive it as data and
00:09:52.980 information that lets you develop yourself or does it control you does it manipulate your emotions
00:09:57.900 does it does it build your world views in a way where you don't have control is it programming that
00:10:03.480 is positive or is it negative programming because you're programming yourself all day long you just
00:10:07.220 choose what to program what do you think what is important what is the most important yeah good
00:10:12.000 question freedom freedom what is the independence and self-sufficiency yeah that's freedom what's the
00:10:16.480 most important thing to be independent to be unreliant on other people and on systems and to
00:10:22.860 be as flexible as possible like everything that people have their mortgage their car payments all
00:10:28.620 these things they it's just it's just baggage and distractions bro and it's stuff that's been put on
00:10:33.740 us right right it's social pressures things like that like bro you're fucking performing from first
00:10:37.980 grade to get to the next level get to the next level and it's all within a rat race bro at the age of
00:10:42.840 six they ask you what is your dream job you don't even have an option what if i don't want to fucking
00:10:47.420 work you know what i mean like it's already from the beginning you're programmed with this bullshit
00:10:51.500 to be part of the system and it's all based on the prussian school system of of industrialism right
00:10:58.300 which is you are just a cog in the machine right and you're built to be a cog in the machine so the
00:11:03.180 training is for you to be a cog in the machine right the bell the bell rings and guess what you get
00:11:10.120 yard time just like fucking prisoners you come back you have to ask for permission for to piss
00:11:15.240 you have to get a hall pass at the age of six to go down the hall you have hall monitors from the
00:11:20.960 moment you're born they're indoctrinating you into the system and that's how you start operating so you
00:11:25.520 if you want to make good decisions in life you need to think hmm maybe if everybody else is ending
00:11:31.640 up at the age of 60 70 with fucking bullshit results by following the system maybe that system
00:11:36.840 doesn't work and i have to figure out another way right and that's kind of like the focus that i
00:11:41.660 believe people need to be on question no i was gonna say it seems as though the my fault agent
00:11:46.020 it seems as though the area and take you focused on is the financial aspect in that everyone should
00:11:53.740 just you know buy themselves out and i i have these same takes and you know i did a video on the
00:11:59.420 allegory of cave the allegory of cave i don't know if you ever heard of it but yeah he reacted to it
00:12:03.160 like the other day oh the full video yeah not yours but in different allegory of the cave right
00:12:07.220 right but i went deep in on that shit on you know the levels of mental complexity and all different
00:12:10.780 types of things and at the highest level of mental complexity so everyone has this thing called their
00:12:15.180 filter right so you know that that six years old kind of thing you know whatever your filter is
00:12:20.700 whether it's your religion whether it's your environment everyone is being programmed socially
00:12:23.820 with with some sort of filter and when you're on the first level of the cave or the first level of
00:12:28.520 that you're attached to that filter at the second level you are still attached to that filter you're
00:12:34.640 now driving it so you're pushing it out you're projecting it on other people you're defending it
00:12:39.480 etc you're not you're not just being programmed through it but you're now you're standing on it
00:12:43.920 and representing it at the third and highest level you can change filters and i say that to say
00:12:49.560 it was a car metaphor in it and the first one on the first level you're the passenger on the second
00:12:55.140 level you're the driver on the third level you're the driver and the one who changes who has control
00:13:00.100 of the directions of the car so on the second one you can understand how you're driving the car but
00:13:05.100 you're not controlling where it's going and what matters most is who's controlling where the car is
00:13:08.820 going towards what and i'll say that to say when you go into the financial aspect and saying you know
00:13:13.900 everyone buy themselves out what strikes me about that is not that everyone can't buy themselves out
00:13:19.460 but then you're also pushing another direction of you're a slave follow the financial right your
00:13:25.120 financial exactly become a slave to the same money same thing you still now you need the money for
00:13:29.940 that freedom rather than but you also so i'm gonna let you answer on that because that was a lot i'm
00:13:34.260 gonna let you answer on that yeah so what i would say is uh money if money's all you're seeking and
00:13:40.420 it's not about getting rich it's about becoming wealthy right and wealthy is a life of abundance
00:13:45.200 right and that is a life that is complete so it's not just about money it's a lifestyle it's a change
00:13:50.300 of lifestyle from a life of slavery to a life of freedom so you have multiple paradigms you can have
00:13:55.560 wealth but you can have health right and if you don't have health does it fucking matter you have
00:14:00.240 a hundred million dollars to your name it doesn't matter because you don't have that okay for me it's
00:14:04.320 relationships right having relationships with people that are intimate building connections like these
00:14:09.900 things matter to me so to me in order to be truly successful i need to have all these things in a
00:14:14.860 balanced state at all times if i i'm not compromising my morality my principles my relationships
00:14:21.140 for money i'm figuring out that this is a tool that i can use and i need to manage it very carefully
00:14:26.320 because it is a powerful tool if not the tool starts to use you right and that's where the
00:14:31.860 difficulty comes so it's not so much the focus on money but the problem is a lot of people's problems
00:14:37.380 today could be solved if they had a little bit more money and that nobody can disprove because people
00:14:42.300 are broke right most people are poor and it's like okay well i need to figure out how i need i
00:14:47.580 got to feed my kid how i got to get take the bus how i got to do all this stuff that is just
00:14:51.980 distractions there is very little time to develop into the best person that you can be so it's about
00:14:57.960 eliminating those things in in a positive way and it's it's a balanced thing it's not like go
00:15:02.820 fucking hard you know uh 24 7 for three weeks and then burn yourself out and never do it no it's a
00:15:07.920 process of self-development it's the persistent it's the persistent pursuit you know you gotta
00:15:13.020 pursue it always you could have the money and still be in the rat race towards something correct
00:15:18.980 so that's why when i look at it or my takes on it and we you know i think we um this is where we
00:15:23.980 really get into it is that it starts with who's programming who to do what and as long as you have
00:15:30.860 your own individualized conscious and intentional agenda i call it being consciously intentional as long
00:15:36.860 as you have your own individualized conscious and intentional agenda towards something
00:15:41.360 then you are free even if you don't even if you have the money or you don't have the money because
00:15:46.920 we can show in different examples where it shows itself let's say i have financial advice young don
00:15:52.280 comes to the table um okay invest like this and i say no you can't invest like that before i even say
00:15:57.920 is his investing advice valuable can i use everything in my environment to push my agenda of
00:16:06.140 financial freedom that's just one example so if i'm consciously using everything in my environment
00:16:11.220 intentionally towards my direction i can change not direction of where i'm going but i might be able
00:16:17.940 to make a left turn to get there faster see this is a deep metaphor that i'm trying to use but i said
00:16:22.100 it to say when someone is about to what they are but that's when they stay on the you know what don
00:16:28.040 there's no investment advice you can give me because i've been making money on my investment advice
00:16:31.160 but the back door has to the front door has to always be open and always be able to be updated
00:16:37.180 and upgraded and advanced or you just become a slave to whatever it is that you're directing yourself
00:16:42.820 towards i feel like everything both of you just said makes sense but what about this
00:16:49.700 after you're able to feed yourself to pay your bills meet all of the essentials right money any extra
00:16:59.700 money on top of that is truly no it's not meaningless trivial let me finish let me take a
00:17:06.320 project you can't move to another country last second let me finish what i'm saying let me finish
00:17:10.060 what i'm saying right okay i mean what do y'all think happens when we die
00:17:14.160 all right connect this to okay so let's let's answer your money's cuts off okay so can we start
00:17:22.340 with the money and then we can move to spirituality right right i agree with that okay so uh what i
00:17:28.680 would say is you know you're talking out of inexperience what are you talking about i mean
00:17:34.620 are you are you are you sitting on a hundred million dollars why there's different why do i
00:17:39.920 need a hundred million dollars i have enough money in my bank account to not work for the next six
00:17:44.100 months and be fine because because money is yeah i think we're about to disagree on the
00:17:48.100 what do you mean what do you mean like yeah it must hang on hang on hang on money is used
00:17:54.620 because right and once you get enough you know what i'm saying like so luke now this is where you
00:17:59.320 expand on the point what's the difference between a hundred million and that because because i'm
00:18:03.260 good because money because money isn't always about you it's about the impact that you can do
00:18:08.640 with it right and the problem is once you start taking care of yourself now the mission changed
00:18:13.820 to i already did what i needed to do i'm i'm taking care of but look at everybody around me
00:18:19.040 yeah now you have to do that what happens if you die today what happens if you die today
00:18:23.220 right but hang on but that's what happens if you die today talking about money you two though there's
00:18:28.140 ways you can use your money to impact the others once you get your own freedom so we live on an
00:18:32.420 influence that when you die yeah so we live on an economic planet somebody watch this shit 50 years
00:18:37.740 from now so we live so we live in yeah so we live on an economic planet right we understand that
00:18:43.560 everything moves because we are on a financial system and you need to play by the rules of the game
00:18:48.580 and the rules of the game dictate that if you have money you therefore have power
00:18:52.800 that you therefore have no that's not the rule of the game brother okay yeah what's the rules to
00:18:57.820 you i mean i mean i'm exp i am explaining to you you can't tell me an absolute based off of your
00:19:02.900 world view it needs what i'm saying actually makes sense because the billionaires of the world
00:19:07.980 right they're the ones that are dictating everything that you believe in right so that's not true
00:19:13.140 that's not true okay all right did the world make it did the world make itself the reason the reason
00:19:18.520 you're reading the bible in english no no no no james who had money was able to hire all these
00:19:23.940 don't worry about unless you was king unless you had money you would not be able to read the bible
00:19:29.260 worry about the bible so somebody had to pay for that don't worry about the bible i'm asking you a
00:19:35.140 simple question do you think the world made itself what does that have to do with i don't know
00:19:40.460 what we're just changing topics no don't make everything about christianity bro no i'm making
00:19:45.300 everything about god and the fact that we all die here's a guarantee all 10 000 people watching this
00:19:51.220 all what is this six of us right here we're all going to be dead very soon relative to the span of
00:19:58.760 human history don't you think that is if something important happens after that don't you think that
00:20:06.540 should be the most pressing thing what is it for us to so i'm actually that's why i'm asking you a
00:20:12.200 series of simple questions so and i'll respond to you okay do you think i'll respond to you if you go
00:20:17.440 to a mission so i'll tell you right do you think i've been sponsoring itself do you think the world
00:20:21.580 made itself that's my question i don't know what that means but what i can tell you is that i've been
00:20:26.940 sponsoring building wells in liberia for the last six years right and for ten thousand dollars i basically
00:20:33.360 can fund clean water clean water to a village for life right in liberia so now that we're basically
00:20:39.800 by the year 2030 the entire country of liberia is going to have clean water after the civil war that
00:20:45.140 they went through now you want to talk to people about spirituality but you won't give them an apple
00:20:49.760 right they ain't focused on their souls if they can't eat right now bro so sometimes you need to be
00:20:54.680 able to supply sometimes sometimes you gotta sometimes you gotta be able to supply but what
00:21:00.120 sometimes you have to supply people's essentials give them an apple brother read matthew read
00:21:05.820 matthew brother where jesus sat down give them an apple and broke and broke the bread and broke the
00:21:11.520 and he fed the multitude and after he had blessed the food and he broke it what did he say what did he say
00:21:17.120 what did he say when people followed him i read matthew what did he say when people followed him
00:21:21.320 across the lake they crawled across the sea because they wanted more food and what did they see so what
00:21:26.620 did he say do not seek after the food that feeds the flesh seek after me because i feed the soul
00:21:33.020 that's what he said when people came back to ask for more money or ask for more food what does it what
00:21:38.520 does it matter if somebody can eat today and then spend an eternity burning and suffering forever in hell
00:21:44.300 and i'm saying if there is if that is a possibility that and let's say it's true let's say it's true
00:21:51.100 right wouldn't that now take the highest precedent of everybody's concern where they're going to spend
00:21:57.380 eternity because any one of us can die at any point in time any one of us could die tomorrow and it
00:22:03.320 wouldn't matter how much money you have in the bank or if your belly is full or empty all that matters is
00:22:07.800 what is going to happen to your soul after the fact and so that's why i was asking the question
00:22:12.080 i agree with you don't i mean but that's why i was asking the question do you think i mean if i
00:22:16.480 can finish but can i finish the train of thought if he chooses to use his money to leverage that in
00:22:21.720 ways to help other people so what i would say is like let me just finish my train of thought which
00:22:26.340 is you know he like if whether you want to talk about jesus whether you want to talk about whatever
00:22:31.400 it's if you can supply people's essential needs and you can actually care for them
00:22:35.780 and many times people don't care about what you have to say unless they know that you actually care for
00:22:41.140 them right so establishing this initial connection with people like what are you going to go to the
00:22:45.940 middle of uganda where people are starving and just what going to pass out some flyers and baptize
00:22:51.540 them and then go back to your fucking country two weeks later feeling all good and shit well it's
00:22:55.700 absolutely nothing right so seeing it as picking and choosing i see it as both right you know and i'm
00:23:00.740 not disagreeing with you people i'm only saying this in response to my question of what is the most
00:23:06.280 important thing and if your response is food and water and i'm not discounting david himself he said
00:23:12.920 freedom that's not what i said what i said is what i said is what i said is before you talk you
00:23:18.800 begin talking spirituality right because it's easy to say when you have a couple million dollars in the
00:23:23.100 bank account you have the freedom to think about these things but some people are actually
00:23:26.240 to pass through the eye of a needle than to enter into the kingdom of heaven that is not true
00:23:30.280 the more money you have the harder it becomes to actually see god because we live in a world a
00:23:35.900 fallen world that is ran on money as you as you correctly pointed out earlier but you have to
00:23:41.580 understand that is man's world we live man's rule pales in comparison to god's rule and my point is
00:23:49.060 if you get if you get if you get into a position where you feel like you can get out of any situation
00:23:54.340 because you have so much money that person is less inclined to seek god because pretty much every
00:24:00.520 problem they can the only time rich people get spiritual not the only time but a lot of times
00:24:06.900 is when they're on their deathbed because they realize that they can't buy their buy more life but
00:24:11.880 they'll continue you know how many people's deathbeds have you been next to
00:24:15.880 to make that statement this is what probably none next what do you wait no no i'm saying i'm saying
00:24:22.540 i'm saying that i'm saying that you don't see a lot of um wealthy evangelism it wealthy maybe
00:24:30.160 maybe you're jealous okay point them not point them out to me tell me tell me tell me about the
00:24:35.460 because we have this we have this platform we have this platform i'm pre i'm talking about the
00:24:40.840 importance of people's soul and eternity and y'all want to talk about money now listen bro this this
00:24:47.920 is where it it disconnects it can be both right you can you can on one end say hey like don't even
00:24:54.500 worry about getting the newest shoes the newest car that that new fancy thing do what makes you feel
00:24:59.520 content with yourself and your relation to the world whether it's taking care of a homeless person
00:25:04.580 whether it's um living your life in a way that's that you know is consistent with your beliefs that's
00:25:09.640 fine but then luke is also saying that with the financial world that we have with the cards that
00:25:14.700 we're dealt it's a certain way to play that which can benefit both like you said you you know honorably
00:25:19.800 you said you got the uh you know wells that you know give clean water towards that you could look
00:25:24.220 at that also as a spiritual act he's using his money to leverage it towards benefit look man all i know
00:25:28.960 all i know is that it's not we started this conversation right when we started this conversation i asked a
00:25:34.700 very honest and simple question about like the monkey pox thing and i felt like he bobbed and
00:25:40.160 weaved that and then you wanted to say that gay people are sinful because of the no that's not
00:25:45.060 well i didn't believe it i just don't have an opinion about it maybe i just don't care enough
00:25:50.180 about it so can i truly not have an opinion about it i mean i don't have an opinion about everything
00:25:55.460 so that's why i gave you i gave you i gave you very plain and simple information you see this is
00:26:02.000 the same thing you were just no no hold on i don't have an opinion about the agent and low
00:26:07.020 and now i don't have an opinion because it's luke but when it's agent and low
00:26:11.400 what luke is saying is he's not focusing on the distraction why are you getting mad bro he's
00:26:21.820 saying it's a distraction there's no point in saying that gay people are even not even not even
00:26:26.180 that it's a distraction like i don't have an opinion about it i don't have to have an opinion
00:26:29.680 about everything that i come across right like maybe i just look at i'm like okay it is what it
00:26:33.820 like i'm not paying attention i don't have the facts i just had that same thought and i was just
00:26:38.680 ostracized on stream for not giving a fuck about everything that crossed my path yeah i can't be
00:26:44.360 asked to care about everything there's certain things i care about and most of it you ever ask
00:26:48.460 yourself you know how the fuck do you decide what you care about is it proximity it got to be someone
00:26:54.520 close to you it does it have to affect you but it's some things you just not gonna care about
00:26:59.200 doesn't mean it's not important it just means it's not for you to handle i just right i can't believe
00:27:02.700 you just i think you're criticized me for the same thing that luke is doing but you're not saying
00:27:06.980 nothing to luke right now i think you're making the equivalent of not caring about something and
00:27:10.820 choosing not to speak on it the same as saying you're avoiding it and dodging it i don't think
00:27:15.020 that he doesn't care about the monkey pox but the whole point about the monkey pox is it's meant to
00:27:18.360 distract and make people like scared and fearful it's part of a bigger plan it's not specifically
00:27:22.800 the monkey pox it's overall why are they forcing this on us right now why are they talking about it
00:27:27.820 why are people scared about it by that same logic can't you argue that the trans conversation you
00:27:32.680 i was trying to have earlier with me when you're trying to get me to have an opinion on that
00:27:35.260 you put you don't have any opinion at all but luke doesn't have an opinion on monkey pox it's the
00:27:41.720 same thing happening his opinion is that it's distraction nigga it of course it's a distraction
00:27:46.880 everything you do is a distraction from something else you could be doing everything could qualify as
00:27:51.080 a distraction no it's you got to bro no it's it's meant to say it again we're just choosing
00:27:56.780 let's direct the conversation back at the matrix itself let's go back to that because here's why
00:28:01.900 here's why i agree with young don that if you focus on the material gain too much you start to lose your
00:28:06.900 soul you start to lose your idea of your purpose in life but that's where it becomes it stops right
00:28:14.320 there because luke's not saying that oh get the biggest get a hundred million and you're the fucking
00:28:17.860 guy and you can live your life with just you know freedom it's that if you use that with intention
00:28:23.400 if you leverage it and you know the same way that people use it in a corrupt way you can use it in
00:28:27.200 a beneficial way look yeah and and you know if we talk about if we talk about the bible about an
00:28:34.640 abundance of wealth of money and if we talk about the bible you know god used used kings just as much
00:28:40.400 as he used shepherds you know and just as much as he used prophets that had nothing and were in the
00:28:45.760 wilderness like god can use anybody you just have to be willing to be used and you have to figure out
00:28:50.140 what like god is asking from you you know like if you believe in a higher power however you want
00:28:54.760 to interpret that that's not true you have an opinion about the monkey pox i mean i think it's
00:28:59.300 bullshit but like there's nothing i'm carrying it's like it's dumb shit like i don't have i don't care
00:29:04.780 like i don't know it's not that you have no opinion you're saying that it's dumb and it's brainwashing
00:29:10.440 the difference between agent is he's not even choosing a side about trans people you are you are making a
00:29:15.140 huge leap here sneaker me and him are in the exact same position but you're finding a way to argue
00:29:19.800 on his behalf are you saying trans people are bullshit you're saying i'm not informed enough
00:29:25.980 to have an opinion the difference is you're saying you're uninformed about trans people luke is very
00:29:30.040 well informed about monkey pox okay hold on uh luke what do you know about monkey pox since you're
00:29:36.600 very well informed uh i know that the world health organization declared it a global crisis
00:29:41.060 last week that it is mostly spread through the homosexual community about 93 percent of it
00:29:46.560 uh that uh they have a vaccine that they're trying to push for it now in new york and that is uh about
00:29:54.700 it that's the facts that i know surface level knowledge though is that what you call knowing
00:29:58.820 something the point the point was my point right because i spoke to luke initially before this right
00:30:05.980 and my initial impression of him was that this was a very honest person who just says it like it
00:30:10.980 is and so just to be honest i felt a bit like i was a bit disappointed when i asked you i wasn't
00:30:18.980 asking you to give me your opinion on homosexuals or people why do you have why do you have expectations
00:30:24.560 you got disappointed because you have expectations about me and i've had one conversation with you
00:30:29.280 no i don't think that's fair no i just asked you to give a very honest opinion on my opinion i don't
00:30:36.100 i wasn't asking to give an opinion on monkeypox or the homosexual community i posed to you i said to
00:30:41.480 you hey and i gave you my opinion no you didn't you didn't say it's not good enough for you
00:30:45.400 you didn't give me you said you said you don't have an opinion that's what you said
00:30:49.440 and so is that okay and then so you go from that to saying a bunch of what i perceive as nothing
00:30:55.600 honestly i like it really didn't sound like you were saying anything for a while and then that's why i was
00:31:01.540 like all right but what is important here right because when i hear sneaker speak i hear a man
00:31:08.420 speaking truth he may not be you may not agree with him you may not like you may not think he's
00:31:14.360 right but i feel like i'm hearing someone who is speaking what he honestly believes and so you know
00:31:21.200 i just gotta be honest and the difference hold on let me let me clear that up the difference between
00:31:25.140 agent not speaking on trans people and luke not speaking on monkeypox is different because luke is
00:31:30.120 aware that he's informed about it and he just knows that it's not important agent is just
00:31:34.380 choosing to that but i told you i don't care it's the same thing sneaker you're just defending him
00:31:39.440 informed about trans people you said run the clip i said i don't care enough nico run the clip back i
00:31:45.320 said i don't care enough to have an opinion on it just rewind it it's on your stream i'm telling you
00:31:51.120 what i said he said the same thing i'm saying but just defend me too if you can defend him monkeypox
00:31:55.520 you're just you said you're not informed he's not informed he just said surface level shit and
00:31:59.780 said that's all i know about it is that informed what else would you know about monkey you want to
00:32:03.620 know like if that's if that's what qualifies as informed then i'm informed on a lot more things
00:32:07.620 than i thought i was i watched one video on the cobalt situation i don't think i'm informed i just
00:32:12.260 know surface level knowledge i watched the same video i think luke watched from jake tran that doesn't
00:32:16.820 make me informed on the topic i don't know shout out to jake tran though
00:32:20.280 facts he makes fantastic videos he's killing it but knowing surface level knowledge that like you
00:32:25.540 could just see on twitter on ig is not the definition of informed so then how do you have
00:32:30.280 to be to speak on something and and look that's a fantastic question i think each person draws the
00:32:35.000 line differently i feel like if i feel if i feel confident enough this is how i think about things
00:32:39.820 if i could fluently speak on the topic the way don is speaking on christianity then i think that i'm
00:32:45.060 informed enough to speak on it but i feel like when you have to stop to think that means there's a lot
00:32:49.560 of things you haven't figured out about that specific topic and it might be too early for
00:32:53.520 you to speak on it so when don is going in on his stuff i'm muslim but i've just recently in the
00:32:58.680 last six months been practicing more there's a lot of things i'm uninformed about that i want to be
00:33:03.560 more informed on so i refrain from talking on it it's not that i don't have an opinion it's just that
00:33:08.040 when things are important i'll inform myself but just keep it a buck though me and luke is in the same
00:33:12.780 position right now but you're defending him and you criticized me earlier it is what it is but
00:33:17.560 i disagree i think he has a stance on it the stance is that monkeypox is distraction and you
00:33:23.820 said that you don't even have an opinion about trans people at all nico please run it back i told
00:33:28.000 you i don't care enough to have an opinion i said it twice please go back and find a clip where i said
00:33:33.200 enough to have an opinion luke has an opinion about monkeypox is that it's bullshit okay i don't have an
00:33:39.340 opinion because it doesn't concern me so if if maybe if i had trans friends it might concern me
00:33:45.920 it's just not the thing i've decided to spend my time learning about and it's not doesn't mean that
00:33:50.760 it's not important to anybody it just means that that's not what i've spent my time caring about it
00:33:55.680 is what it is but you're trying to illustrate the differences between the trans thing with me
00:34:00.380 and uh the thing don and and luke was going on about bro it's such a they're symmetrical but for
00:34:06.480 some reason you can't see that and i think that's i think that's like that kind of shows that you're
00:34:11.600 willing to argue for the sake of arguing and that means that you can't be as honest and in in search
00:34:17.180 of the truth as you say you are because if you was in search of the truth you'd be like all right
00:34:21.100 there actually is a lot of similarities between what happened you either defend me too because i know
00:34:25.160 we spent a 45 minute video looking at the monkey pox and researching it and looking at the world
00:34:32.040 health organization what they were talking about and so i know that's not sure 45 minutes is not
00:34:37.080 informed though you gotta be able to speak on it fluently wait wait the point wasn't about whether
00:34:43.920 or not you were informed about the trans things or it was luke was informed about the monkey pox thing
00:34:50.820 right that was look i i i ain't mean to kill the stream man i ain't mean to kill the stream i just
00:34:58.140 like i i'm honest person you feel me i felt like i felt i felt like i saw a string of behaviors that i
00:35:05.780 didn't like and then i got like and i was like all right let's talk about something that i actually
00:35:11.780 feel like is you know it is worth talking about you know i'm saying like i felt like i don't know but
00:35:19.240 you listen you want to be real bro you want to be real this comes to our conversation that that
00:35:23.540 was also happening with luke and all that is that your attachment to your standpoint comes with and
00:35:31.320 this happens to anybody i'm not saying i'm free for this because i had to check this in myself which
00:35:34.640 is why i can so easily see it in others your attachment to your standpoint creates
00:35:39.880 preconditions for what somebody is like when they disagree with you for example bro you said i spoke to
00:35:46.180 luke first time you said i took him as a guy who speaks the truth holistically yeah and when he
00:35:51.800 didn't want to speak on monkey pox that came with a bunch of assumptions that when he chose not to do
00:35:56.980 it based on the homosexual factor of that you know when you spoke about the statistics and with that
00:36:01.780 alludes to that he was walking on eggshells trying to duck the topic or the standpoint yeah so you're
00:36:07.880 using that to to also judge his character from that you could just ask him agent what's your question
00:36:12.480 do you not want to talk about it because it was a tough rough topic or do you just not care
00:36:16.040 i and then if you can't accept the answer based on that then you you're just judging him you're
00:36:20.440 condemning him before even uh do you feel like there's any topics or truths in the world that
00:36:26.080 you don't have an opinion on like what's something that's happening you're like vaguely aware it's
00:36:31.500 happening i don't know i don't know what's happening in japan i don't know what's happening in south
00:36:38.240 america like you're assuming that like if he doesn't care just because it's the specific topic
00:36:42.500 and we all know when you bro that was transgender i'm telling you i get what you're saying bro but
00:36:47.700 that wasn't that wasn't they don't talk about them that that wasn't like dunking i it's not
00:36:53.100 that was not the problem bro that was not the problem what you said was very logical no no yeah
00:36:59.080 all right this but it's not all right you know we here we here it is what it is leave it
00:37:06.460 put it on the table all right this is what i felt this is what i felt right we came on talking about
00:37:15.200 said let's have a conversation about the matrix right so i'm like okay cool let's red pill some
00:37:21.080 people right let's actually talk about right let's talk about what's going on i don't know i don't
00:37:28.020 even think i was the person who brought up the topic of monkeypox i might have been but it's a
00:37:33.220 relevant conversation and i noticed a very interesting phenomena going on right something that has been
00:37:41.020 public knowledge for the past two months has been swept under the rug and now they're pivoting it in a
00:37:48.420 way that you know now it's it's something we all need to be concerned about we all might be getting
00:37:53.860 locked yeah look that's not true that's not true you you definitely have an opinion about the monkey
00:37:57.120 wait wait let me finish let me finish let me finish let me finish right boom i'm like okay do you think
00:38:04.540 that there is some kind of agenda being pushed here where it's like why is it that this hasn't been
00:38:12.160 talked about is there a correlation between trying to protect this community because there is what
00:38:19.220 people really don't want to talk about and this is where i felt the matrix part was coming into play
00:38:23.620 was what people really don't want to talk about is this lifestyle that is being pushed as normal and
00:38:28.780 healthy is making people sick it happened with aids it's happening again there's it all statistically
00:38:36.560 just year by year year after year they usually have the highest rates of certain stds what is that all
00:38:43.640 coincidence luca what do you think do you think there or luke do you think there's a there's um i've
00:38:50.020 been watching too much basketball luke do you think there's um a correlation between them silencing that
00:38:55.920 and trying like to protect this community when there is something and then he goes he goes well you're
00:39:02.600 talking for him now then he goes he says a bunch of words and then he's like i don't have opinion
00:39:07.240 right and then that made me go can you see that wait wait and then that made me go huh and then we
00:39:13.720 started talking about and then it just felt like a lot of for lack of a better word grifting it just
00:39:19.500 felt like a lot of talking about nothing and then i was like i can't i can't in good faith sit here
00:39:27.620 feel like there might be a grifter selling all these impressionable young people who look up to
00:39:34.340 sneaker like bs and then uh then push them down the road of financial slavery and chasing money and
00:39:42.180 all that like that's going to give you any freedom in life when i also just morally believe that that
00:39:46.460 is most certainly not the most important thing to focus on and so that was it that was it i wasn't
00:39:51.860 trying to like you know make things weird or anything that was so that was so that was your
00:39:57.100 opinion that was your opinion and i expressed my opinion you just didn't resonate with it
00:40:02.060 and therefore you judged me based off what opinion did you give your opinion was i don't have an
00:40:07.540 opinion and then you said and that upset you i'm not i'm not no we think it is going to start it
00:40:11.760 it set off a red flag it didn't upset bro i don't care i don't care you don't even know
00:40:16.680 can you see this that's another chess piece on the board of the game itself whether you sit here
00:40:30.760 and disagree with him and say well let's say you're right like right let's say that and i
00:40:34.600 gave him the benefit of the doubt okay apparently he's a hundred millionaire or somewhere through
00:40:39.800 crypto maybe he got things in the works that like he trying to be do the pr thing because i can respect
00:40:46.300 that same thing agent talking about with his brand cool i can respect that but then when i sat back
00:40:53.000 and i was just listening to what he was saying about money or like the i was like what did i say
00:41:00.040 exactly bro you spoke for like four minutes what did i say i didn't hear anything bro i mean agent
00:41:07.480 if you didn't hear anything then why do you have an opinion about it if you didn't hear anything why
00:41:12.020 you said a whole bunch of nothing you feel me you said a whole bunch of nothing and then like
00:41:18.680 you're standing so close you this might be for everybody listen listen you're looking at the
00:41:24.080 chess pieces the opponent and the player you need to see the game i don't see nobody as my enemy no no
00:41:30.220 i don't see nobody i can't sit here and just listen to what sounds like grifting so what's more
00:41:37.900 important what what's what's the overarching boom i need to when i hear a grifter i gotta call it out
00:41:44.160 bro i gotta call it out because you got 11 000 people watching this and i don't want and then
00:41:49.800 people's souls is at stake remember that's also what i believe and again then you should be looking
00:41:55.020 with yourself then brother you're going to push it up brother and then brother i recommend then
00:42:00.060 brother i recommend you look at the mirror because instead of watching all that nba you should be on
00:42:04.120 the street preaching your word if you care so much so don't come to me with no bullshit no no okay
00:42:09.760 now the excuses now the excuses what do you mean excuses you're in the circus you're in the circus
00:42:16.000 watching watching the distractions i evangelize to the man i sat beside on the plane today on the way
00:42:20.920 over here from texas one two i spoke to two p i speak to i spoke to two people yesterday about
00:42:26.180 getting saved three i have a youtube channel that gets hundreds of thousands of views where i talk
00:42:30.740 about this non-stop i get messages talking about people turning around their lives for jesus so don't
00:42:35.780 try and say i'm a hypocrite one that's cap big cap and two like bro i ain't gonna sit here and like
00:42:42.820 let 11 000 people be misled both down just by grifting and then on top of that down to them
00:42:50.760 nation like that's just what i believe right now you know what i'm saying as a man you should be
00:42:55.200 able to do that though as a man you should be able to say yo i think that's bullshit so now luke
00:42:58.940 also i think you could argue that him him going outside and preaching is not nearly as effective
00:43:03.840 as him dropping a video and thousands of people seen it and he's the point is the point is there's
00:43:09.300 times where people just hang out and they live their life and priorities change and stuff like that
00:43:13.960 so you know you can always find fallacies in other people's lives but for you to come and call me a
00:43:19.480 grifter when you know nothing about me or what i've done it's just ridiculous because i would
00:43:23.700 never judge you uh without really getting to know you so let's break some bread one day i guess we
00:43:28.820 we will agree on more things than we disagree and we should focus on that and then we make the world
00:43:33.560 a better place together but like you know if there's 11 000 people watching then let's switch
00:43:38.200 the conversation to something that we agree on and make this like a delightful time that's my
00:43:43.800 i say that you may specialize in the financial department let's say don specialize in spiritual
00:43:49.300 department that's where you know or you know the religious christians the christian department
00:43:52.980 let's say sneaker specializes in and and you know truth or whatever and we all bring something
00:43:59.080 different to the table right or wrong disagree or agree and everybody speak up sneaker's not christian
00:44:04.460 i don't believe you're a christian you have spiritual belief i came on here knowing i was going to have
00:44:09.560 this conversation with people with different beliefs than me i i did i ask you to put on
00:44:14.180 the gospel music when you was playing chief keith bro i don't have a problem with people
00:44:17.860 i've never heard someone talk about christianity and i appreciate that thank you
00:44:25.000 everybody we talk to you've been talking about the bible all day oh well well oh well apparently i'm a
00:44:30.980 hypocrite according to luke i don't talk about the bible nobody barely no he definitely
00:44:35.100 if you stand on spirituality prevails through all and christianity is what i stand i don't mind
00:44:51.460 people talking about these topics you ain't let him finish though i don't mind when he was
00:44:55.520 talking about financial part he only even went to the spiritual because i said well if you all right
00:45:00.560 let me ask you something let me ask you something if you heard me if you heard me saying something
00:45:04.640 and you thought i was being disingenuous you would really just sit here and just let me continue
00:45:12.000 talking you would impress me or no we get or we both we both went at it so that's all that we both
00:45:16.980 went in i said so that's all i'm saying that's all i did too much money and luke replied luke you had
00:45:22.480 an answer that you said that we live in a financial world and then that's where you disagree we live in
00:45:26.220 a spiritual world and then i said it's both and then that's where we got now that's all i did
00:45:30.500 i said i said i said i said you live it is you know what it is when you started when you started
00:45:36.060 brother you met you've let nobody you've let nobody speak for the last 30 minutes you love
00:45:41.040 listening to yourself i do i know there's another there's another four people here you can let them
00:45:45.640 talk as well turning the mic to him the whole time like every time you let him like maybe let's
00:45:50.440 listen to somebody else in the chat talk now luke god definitely get the floor the guy the guy in the
00:45:55.720 the top right nice to meet you what do you think brother i haven't heard from you
00:45:59.480 the whole time as has the could been he's just laughing he's just laughing hey here's i got
00:46:05.620 five other intelligent people in here hold me accountable am i tripping the only thing i'm
00:46:10.000 tripping so you're saying he's like trying to get people i i say people focus too much on the money
00:46:15.540 that also becomes another issue but i don't think he was trying to bait people to his course and
00:46:19.220 manipulate people i don't even have i don't have a course that's what i'm saying never had what you
00:46:22.880 was saying like he on some get the money get the bag shit that's never sound like you were saying
00:46:27.640 that wasn't i didn't say that you had a course or not of course but are you awake saying that
00:46:33.140 sneaker has a plan what is it what is it what is it like what was the i'm i'm awake i'm i am i am
00:46:40.200 awake but what do you think what do you think if from well from i think that um i think especially
00:46:47.180 since we talk about uh fucking what's it called distractions i think everybody's distracted right
00:46:52.500 now ironically and in and in b i i understand what what um what young don is saying especially
00:46:59.480 if that was the same energy that was kept to us in to begin with because he basically said he
00:47:02.820 doesn't care when he asked him a point blank question that could have just been answered
00:47:05.880 off rip he could have just answered it like we wouldn't even go down this path if he didn't just
00:47:10.300 answer it i don't think he's a grifter but there he clearly is pointing out that he doesn't have
00:47:14.940 that much he doesn't really care as much because he views as a distraction my question to people
00:47:18.920 when we always go down this path is what is the what is the end goal that's why i asked nico about
00:47:23.680 what his end goal is so to luke what is what is the end goal because i also agree with i i also
00:47:28.940 it's what is the end goal to what but well let me just say i also agree with young don that
00:47:33.540 understandable about having a certain level of finances and be able to affect and impact on certain
00:47:39.020 people but there is a certain point where like what is what is what is the point of having the
00:47:44.440 endless amount of money that that to me doesn't really make any sense especially when there's
00:47:48.480 maybe other and more impactful ways to reach people so what is what is what is the end goal to
00:47:53.340 waking up or being in a matrix or or not or not being in it because by the logic in which we can keep
00:47:59.580 going down this rabbit hole then i would ask then if you don't want to participate in the matrix then
00:48:03.960 why are you even here so what is the end goal there is no end goal the end goal is that every it's a
00:48:11.020 continuous process of growth and self-development and that a lot of people live under the rules and
00:48:16.040 regulations of other men and every system that's around you was created by somebody it is a fictitious
00:48:21.780 created system and when you understand that you now start understanding that you can play by different
00:48:27.440 rules that you're not bound by the same rules and the bullshit that everybody else is uh bound by and
00:48:31.960 then you can actually start focusing on other things like your mindset your spirituality all these
00:48:36.300 things are important but for us to completely invalidate that most of the world lives in
00:48:41.120 poverty that they need to feed themselves need to do certain things in order to get out that is not
00:48:45.760 anything terrible in many ways more than not just having enough money i get i get 100 100 i get i get what
00:48:51.860 you're saying but what i'm saying is okay let's so you you're financially liberated right how do you
00:48:57.380 how do you then continue that status without also playing within the game you have to play within the
00:49:03.360 game but you're not bound by it that's that's the purpose it's like so you're not bound by okay
00:49:07.300 you're not bound by it a lot of people don't even see that it's a game just like think about how many
00:49:11.120 people bro go and get a job and they go to university just because they've been told these
00:49:15.780 things right we we all agree with that and that's and that's the point is like it's you can have these
00:49:20.920 type of conversations and people are like hmm okay cool like i resonate with this i resonate with
00:49:25.300 this this makes sense 50 years ago when people all they could watch was a fucking television it was
00:49:30.520 four channels everybody thought the same way everybody believed the same thoughts everybody
00:49:34.580 was indoctrinated right now we have these platforms we everybody has different opinions and people view
00:49:39.000 different things i've been to 40 countries around the world i've seen culture i've seen different
00:49:42.900 people be happy with different things i've seen terrible parts of religion i've been to haiti i've seen
00:49:47.320 crazy satanic shit over there like i've seen a ton of stuff so it's not that i'm discrediting this
00:49:52.280 right i come from a family that were missionaries in in communist cuba bro i was born in a
00:49:57.960 fucking in in in south america and they put me in a fucking bread basket bro i come from nothing so
00:50:03.100 i've seen the importance of of of spirituality and all these things bro but i've also seen the
00:50:08.660 importance of giving people the necessary resources to live life and with that you can have more impact
00:50:15.040 the more you have the more impact you can you can make positive or negative shut the fuck up about
00:50:19.380 lamza we're talking about what do you think i get i get what you're saying but what i'm saying is that
00:50:22.920 if you always believe that there is another another step to the matrix where somebody else is
00:50:28.140 always controlling you for example if you want financial liberation um let's just say you bought
00:50:33.280 a bunch of houses and you went to mount so now you have the freedom to not do anything and still have
00:50:37.340 like passive income for example would you not still be bound to the concept of the the the housing
00:50:43.520 market yeah of course there's always there's always some sort of of consistent uh reinventing
00:50:50.520 yourself in order to keep up with the system changing like that's the name of the game that's
00:50:54.160 why it never stops but it's not this like matt like uh mouse and cat type relationship that i'm pursuing
00:51:00.540 it's this idea of like living with freedom where you can do whatever it is that you want to do
00:51:03.880 a lot of people can't do what they want to do in life bro like that's no no no i think we all agree
00:51:10.860 with that i just think that my my problem not problem but my constant question i have similar
00:51:16.940 to what i don't know if necessarily don was saying this but i i agree that there still is an end goal
00:51:21.940 to what we're doing so what is that end goal and so if you're saying that there isn't anyone the end
00:51:27.240 goal the end goal is is for the next generation to be better than the one that was before
00:51:31.660 hold on one question so you said that is you said you've said three different things so far i think
00:51:37.440 well first time you were asked you said independence it's like self-reliance yeah and the second time
00:51:42.640 you said uh there is no end goal like there's always some more and then this is your third new
00:51:47.520 answer but you think freedom is just acquired no freedom needs to be consistently earned oh wouldn't
00:51:52.740 the answer just be freedom but you're also uh focusing on the financial aspect of how the world
00:51:58.660 i mean i feel like it's not necessarily complicated bro you get paid for offering goods and services
00:52:05.640 acquire a skill that pays a certain amount of money so that you can maintain a certain like i feel like
00:52:11.960 we huh and feed your family boom that's the money now after that's taken care of now if you want to
00:52:18.380 fixate on becoming a hundred millionaire or a multi-millionaire and for whatever i'm not even
00:52:24.560 going to they don't money isn't the root of all evil it's a love of money is the root of all evil i'm
00:52:28.480 not saying you're a bad person or evil person because you're smart and know how to make a lot
00:52:33.560 of money i'm saying like you should focus on that at the end like i don't like this i don't like this
00:52:40.220 this idea of like demonizing just regular work you feel me it's like bro who demonized that
00:52:47.680 statement about a hundred million you said it's because of inexperience what did that mean though
00:52:54.700 that you need that there's levels of mindset that you need to develop in order to achieve certain
00:53:00.760 levels of wealth like that's just different there's different people with different information and
00:53:04.520 based off of the information that they have they operate so you're operating based off of your
00:53:09.380 information and operating based off of mine i'm saying that they i mean this is i know in fact for i
00:53:16.120 don't know it's like i came i came i came into the chat supposed to talk and like you're like being
00:53:20.640 aggressive with me just because i have a different opinion like it's like it's like chill the fuck
00:53:25.020 out bro no like let's talk about something possible you gotta let that be done y'all gotta
00:53:30.420 that's but the reason i ask that though is because when you when you backlash with that uh it's because
00:53:35.440 of inexperience or you know where's your hundred million it kind of that really showed that you do
00:53:39.940 focus a lot on that financial aspect yeah but you need to freeze you can't be talking about you can't
00:53:44.740 be talking about the life of a billionaire if you if you're not a billionaire but that's what i'm
00:53:49.000 talking about it wasn't about the same it was about freedom i'm saying look at elon musk right
00:53:55.860 billionaire right wife leave him his son is a girl now because son also reject him yeah disown him
00:54:03.680 it's like yo look at bill gates look at all these people all these same people y'all
00:54:08.520 criticize about being in the matrix and creating the matrix is the people y'all are trying to become
00:54:14.600 it's like what no listen different intentions make up those people are men of god though right
00:54:19.140 but luke's expertise right you're very financially financially savvy right and you you can you've i'm
00:54:25.520 pretty sure you're smart to where you use that to where you've gave it to give you some financial
00:54:30.180 freedom and you use that to your actual freedom to think to say what you want to live the life that
00:54:35.160 you want and that if people had that individuality they would be cool and where the take me and donna
00:54:41.920 saying is that people get that and there's not just money bro because because it wasn't because
00:54:46.300 money is not the only ingredient that's a tool because then somebody yeah money use the money
00:54:49.760 but money is i agree i'm a little curious the only ingredient not to cut you off i'm just trying to
00:54:55.020 understand we talk we've been talking a lot about money i'm listening more than i'm talking because i
00:54:58.900 kind of want to understand where you're coming from i feel like i have a lot to learn by listening to
00:55:01.960 you why why is there less folks so don's more focused on spirituality i think i'm becoming more
00:55:06.840 like that too uh but why not focused on overall happiness because i feel like if you attain
00:55:12.880 spirituality that comes with you being content and happy um i feel like there's no real amount of money
00:55:19.600 you make before you're really happy about it there's always more but why why is like happiness not been
00:55:25.260 like a focus in these conversations for you um okay so first i would say is because we're developing the
00:55:30.820 thought so uh now we'll transition to like the emotional side so happiness 95 of the happiness
00:55:37.940 in your system biochemically is produced by one one chemical right one chemical that chemical is formed
00:55:46.320 in your gut do you guys know what it is serotonin serotonin if you have a healthy gut because you have a
00:55:52.740 healthy lifestyle you eat correctly biochemically you are 95 on your way to have good chemistry and
00:55:59.740 balance therefore producing happiness right you don't need to do that you don't exactly right so
00:56:05.080 it's the life of balance in every aspect right you need wealth but you also need intelligence you need
00:56:10.840 health right you need the ability to think so it's not just it's not just money so we can talk about
00:56:15.640 health right because i went through a two-year phase in my life where i was about 195 almost 200
00:56:20.620 pounds so i needed to get myself educated now the important thing to me was okay money it was like
00:56:25.220 damn like i'm looking at myself in the mirror i'm like bro this ain't right like you shouldn't be out
00:56:28.900 you're eating this type of food you're addicted to this sugar withdrawals it's like okay now i need
00:56:33.760 to focus on my health right so to me is this is this persistent pursuit of becoming better and
00:56:38.660 better and better but a lot of people money is one of those first ones i use another person it can be
00:56:44.140 health but it's different people have different objectives what i'm saying is we the conversation
00:56:48.460 was just initially money so you guys want to talk about health we can talk about health want to talk
00:56:53.040 about uh spirituality we can talk about that i don't know i don't care but that's i think it's
00:56:59.100 important i think money and happiness is all important because a lot of things he's saying i
00:57:04.260 say as well but you you know my dick about it because i said the same thing i said i said the
00:57:09.900 same thing i said the same thing i know i said the end goal for people are different objectives i said
00:57:14.900 that and i said that i said and said it doesn't really matter the core the core of what you have is
00:57:19.700 what we all have already established of what we need to get to it's about what is your objective
00:57:24.220 in life and so people have different objectives as nuances that's based off of what somebody else
00:57:28.580 wants to do but at the end of the day many people like myself don't really care about it what don't
00:57:33.560 you care about what somebody else's end goal and objective is if that's what they want to do that
00:57:38.460 that's what they want to do what they want to do with it i agree it sounds like luke uh luke's end
00:57:43.740 goal seems to be like financial stability and freedom so that he doesn't have to be bound by the same
00:57:49.240 terms that a lot of other people who don't have that wealth are bound by it seems like don's
00:57:53.720 is spirituality and he's focused more on the next life than this one i gotta keep the lights on too
00:57:59.340 brother like i'm not yeah i'm just saying what your focus is i'm not trying to knock the importance
00:58:04.240 of being able to feed yourself of course what your focus is doesn't mean that you can't also be doing
00:58:09.260 other things it's just what takes priority in your life um so i think if we all have different
00:58:14.560 priorities and different focuses we all also have different truths i think that we're all
00:58:20.460 low-key saying the same thing we all kind of believe that that generic shit you're taught
00:58:25.240 where you had to grow up and then go to school and get a job and live that life is ass and there's so
00:58:31.020 many other ways to get it nowadays hey just say you know i got something for luke this will really like
00:58:34.760 clear some things up for me personally do you feel like a man can be physically
00:58:39.420 like in prison but free mentally but like you know conscious yes 100 okay 100 i think you're not
00:58:49.840 is i because because wealth is a state of wealth is a state wealth is a mindset bro like in everything
00:58:56.000 that comes from it is it's just a stem of who you are as an individual and yeah you can be incarcerated
00:59:01.340 and redeem yourself and become the hero of your story bro like that that can 100 be the case so it's
00:59:06.320 not about money it's about becoming better bro and but money is part of it and it's okay now you're
00:59:11.280 in prison it's a tool now you're in prison that no longer is part of your equation okay then you have
00:59:16.340 to recalibrate the equation right i agree but for us people that are here yes 100 bro but i think it
00:59:21.380 looks differently to to different people you talk about somebody that comes from a village in nepal and
00:59:26.760 they end up in india working a job in a restaurant that to them could have been success right because of
00:59:32.600 where they came from and how the cards were dealt now it's not about private jets and all this
00:59:36.080 it's not about that but it's about that becoming better on a consistent basis you know i have a
00:59:40.180 question do you think that that person who's just running like a store like some supermarket do you
00:59:45.040 think that that person working there uh because we talked a lot about being programmed and we get
00:59:50.100 programmed in small ways like where the food is on the aisle like the amount of science that brilliant
00:59:55.040 people use to try and trick you to buy their product is consumerism we all participate in it you
00:59:59.900 got a balenciaga fucking sweater on like we all have expensive things that we don't need that are
01:00:04.400 extravagant and excessive you feel me but by that logic we're all being kind of programmed we're all
01:00:10.080 falling to these influence you talked i i had a binge eating issue i gained a lot of weight i'm losing
01:00:14.680 weight i'm trying to be more aware of the different ways i'm the weight aspect because i love to talk
01:00:18.940 about fasting i love to talk about you know the biochemical aspect to that and the spiritual side
01:00:22.520 of that because you know before i did content creation and you know focused on what i do now i was a
01:00:27.420 cellular molecular biology major in college you know for the pre-med track so a lot of the way i used to use
01:00:32.160 that was i would talk about you know fasting and you know all types of you know super foods um
01:00:38.200 antioxidants free radicals and all the things of the body so i see that as the same way i put that
01:00:43.060 in my message is the same way luke may put a financial part into his message because he might
01:00:48.080 you might love numbers you might love math you might love that and then that's what you bring to
01:00:52.120 the table and you connect it to all other things so don to that point that's where i say like
01:00:56.840 this is literally what it should look like this is how everybody should be like
01:01:00.160 but at first it did seem as if you were pushing people two mores of like you know chase the bag
01:01:06.460 chase the bag chase the bag chase the bag and they're just they're another part of the rat race
01:01:10.860 that they were from to begin with they never get their they never won with their soul so what's the
01:01:15.300 what's the point what's the point by chasing that money what's the what's the what is the point of
01:01:19.380 balenciaga shirt because that also um well it doesn't make sense when i was poor i promised
01:01:24.660 myself two things that i would buy nice t-shirts and eat at any restaurant that i wanted so those
01:01:29.640 are my two promises to myself that when i got rich i would just splurge on those two things and those
01:01:35.200 are the two things i splurge so wouldn't that logic mean that you were participating in the matrix
01:01:39.120 100 100 sometimes i indulge brother but what does that have to do with anything sometimes i just want
01:01:45.140 to buy a nice t-shirt i mean you indulge on the matrix just by being on the internet
01:01:49.320 just by existing what i'm talking about isn't you have to live in the system is the fact that
01:01:53.900 you're bound by it a lot of people are bound by it i think what lo is trying to say is that there's
01:01:57.560 levels to consumerism and some people participate more than others but i think buying uh because i
01:02:02.820 had that same hoodie i mean that same shirt i bought it for and i have the hoodie version that i
01:02:06.340 bought it for a video where my friend was styling me but that's just value that we've all decided that
01:02:10.780 that thing has if nobody gave a fuck about that brand then you really have zero dollars worth of value
01:02:15.460 exactly but i think and i think it's different to different to different people because you know i i
01:02:21.380 i when i was talking about this on stream yesterday in a segment that i did was how you perceive money
01:02:26.760 also has to do with how you get it so if you work for example for a 500 paycheck this shirt's 500 bucks
01:02:32.340 right and that took you 50 hours to make your you look at the shirt and you're like damn this is
01:02:36.340 expensive because you correlate it with the time that it took you to get it now if i have my investments
01:02:40.740 and i got a 500 and i didn't have to do anything for it then okay i'll go buy this because it didn't
01:02:45.520 cost me anything right it was just there so it also has to do with how you're getting right it's
01:02:50.520 always has to do with the mindset behind it to a certain level aren't we all no matter how how are
01:02:56.080 we trying not to participating in the matrix you could try and buy real estate to get passive income
01:03:00.600 what you got to do is zoning laws local laws federal laws you got to pay taxes on it like there's not
01:03:06.660 many contexts where you can't follow rules and by following those rules and falling under the
01:03:12.760 influence of companies trying to commercialize your attention and you're and just really siphon you for
01:03:18.620 your money we're all falling influence to that shit like uh but they're but they're doing a lot of
01:03:24.480 these things you know people say that they're that they're educated with the law or about the rules
01:03:29.060 and regulations and the tax laws and all that stuff most people don't know anything bro most people
01:03:33.820 don't even know how to write a fucking check right so there's these basic things that people need to
01:03:38.400 learn in order to live a better lifestyle i see i see the hands waving out i don't know what because
01:03:43.620 because because it's still it's still i understand what you're saying but you're you're basically and
01:03:48.500 this is the reason why i keep going back to what i'm saying what's the end result and the reason why
01:03:51.960 even if even if we disagree on some of the the again the nuance is what what i agree with what young
01:03:57.460 don is saying about that there needs to still be an end goal of something we we differentiating
01:04:03.820 somebody from well they live deeper in the matrix because they don't know how to write a check but
01:04:08.580 me i i live a little bit higher even though i wear balenciaga shirt or i i live somewhere in the
01:04:14.260 middle but that has nothing to do with it the shirt has nothing to do with it really it's the
01:04:18.080 value on that it is it's like this shirt isn't doesn't have that much value it has no value
01:04:28.340 exactly but because it has a name on it yeah but but what do we we agree that it has no value
01:04:35.620 no no to you it does though correct no i just bought a shirt that i like that's all i did
01:04:42.160 you just said you promised there is no difference but there is you promised the shirt is meaningful
01:04:48.900 to you because when you were poor you weren't able to you know i said that i promised myself
01:04:53.300 when i was there's meaning because i miss there's meaning yeah right no i just buy it because i like
01:04:58.060 it right but i buy it because i like it and i'm not saying someone is intrinsically like it because
01:05:01.900 they they have value to themselves so it has value to you then no because i could do without it
01:05:08.720 i could do without meaning it's not i'm not i'm not we're not saying it's life or death value but
01:05:13.560 it does have value it has the same value that the shirt that you're wearing brother it has it's
01:05:17.860 just it's clothing me it's the only thing i don't care bro you could take away the balenciaga
01:05:23.040 you do care you sit here and said you promised yourself you will buy nice thing you buy nice shirts
01:05:28.800 you do care it was your dream shirt that was a promise that you care for me from the beginning
01:05:34.200 but i don't care right now just you do care it was one of your two goals what the hell
01:05:40.260 you can't just because you because that was that was a promise you made yourself from young and you
01:05:44.680 kept that promise up until now you care what are you saying you care not about not about the shirt
01:05:50.220 not that you're bothering people but that it was it was a mark of your success what are we talking about
01:05:56.560 but look i think that's a great question you dodged in this one i'm gonna give it a b bro you dodged in
01:06:00.660 this one it looks like it's not that i'm saying bro i think that you guys are letting me do it
01:06:04.700 no you're right you're right it's value if you promise yourself that you wanted it then it's
01:06:09.080 value as becky no it's not it's not valuable but you might put it right now but it's not valuable
01:06:16.480 because i could do without the shirt is what i'm trying to convey i could do without the shirt
01:06:21.060 i could do without my cars but they have value to me because i care about them and i i put a lot
01:06:25.900 of time and effort and money into modding them that's exactly me so so that the effort was the
01:06:31.460 what you value is the time effort and money that it took you to get the car not just the car itself
01:06:36.600 so when this cost me no time and effort to really get because my passive assets provide for it then i
01:06:42.480 could do without the shirt i promise i'm not compared to you compared to your poor self it has value
01:06:49.360 that's why you wear it because you're thinking about yourself when you had no money right so it
01:06:53.700 has value i'm not i'm not even saying that you are you are evil because you're wearing a shirt but
01:06:58.100 it has value yeah it has to have value one thing you told me in puerto rico is that i need to start
01:07:03.520 dressing better i need to buy more expensive shirts you said i dress like a scrub no i'm wrong i said
01:07:08.260 you could go to h m because your shorts have holes in them i was like bro like why do you have
01:07:12.280 holes in your shorts my shorts are fire chat don't listen to that but why does that matter
01:07:20.020 though but why does that matter right it doesn't matter it's just my opinion forget his shorts
01:07:23.740 i'm spiritual but it had to matter it had to matter enough for you to actually bring it up
01:07:30.940 randomly to him it's not random bro because because it's not it's not random you're right
01:07:37.480 you're right hey hey you're right bro i can't i'm not about to sit here and do this yo nigga
01:07:41.240 it yeah i mean things do matter and i and the reason why i don't fully subscribe to this at this
01:07:46.760 point right now i keep asking what's the end goal and then everybody we're just playing different
01:07:51.100 levels of the matrix i'm just i'm drilling no no no no no no no because this this ideology
01:07:55.660 you know you know my end goal though right i know you ain't go and i and i and i i gotta save
01:08:01.800 everyone from going to hell i would rather subscribe to that ideology anything else but when we just
01:08:12.100 sitting here saying i'm playing a different level of the matrix and somebody else then we all still in
01:08:16.740 the fucking matrix and so my point is you if we all agree that we're still in the matrix regardless of
01:08:23.860 whatever level of financial freedom then what is the objective of what we're doing