SNEAKO - SNEAKO Gets THERAPY from a Woke FEMINIST…

00:00:00.000 okay so basically i'm going to ask you a bunch of questions about yourself i highly encourage

00:00:04.560 you not look at chat because i think chat necessarily makes us somewhat performative

00:00:09.840 um and somewhat like modify our answers sometimes because we're like getting immediate feedback from

00:00:14.960 like 200 people you can obviously i can't control what you do um but the whole goal is basically

00:00:19.840 like to me to understand like who you are as a person so i probably won't debate you too much

00:00:24.720 um there might be some stuff that comes up that i'm going to ask you questions about

00:00:27.840 But I'm not trying to like lead towards a specific answer.

00:00:30.580 There's no right answers.

00:00:31.500 I'm trying to understand you as a person.

00:00:33.080 The whole idea is who are you as a person?

00:00:35.520 What are your goals?

00:00:36.540 What makes you tick?

00:00:39.020 And why are you the way that you are?

00:00:42.320 Who else have you had on this series of humanizing?

00:00:45.720 I've actually had only Stardust so far.

00:00:48.020 And I've asked Lauren Southern.

00:00:50.980 I typically try to go for controversial figures specifically.

00:00:54.600 I've reached out to Keffles as well.

00:00:56.360 and uh vosh those are the people i reached out to destiny squad people right they sound like

00:01:01.880 those names like stardust is very destiny group yes yeah yeah i'm definitely within that orbit

00:01:07.340 for sure okay yeah all right i'm so tempted to reach out i hate not reading it um but i will

00:01:13.380 buy chat i'm clicking you away i'm gonna do this humanizing thing properly bye okay cool

00:01:18.200 okay so first of all happy belated birthday thank you 25 24 come on 24 nice

00:01:28.700 yeah are you you know how old I am um you're older than me you're probably 28

00:01:35.080 yeah I am 28 good job that Native American wisdom is paying off for you

00:01:39.980 see what I'm saying you guys let me take it in

00:01:43.480 So why, what are you doing with your content?

00:01:48.440 What's your goal?

00:01:49.440 My goal is to wake people up and seek truth through funny.

00:01:55.040 Seek truth through funny.

00:01:56.040 Yeah.

00:01:57.040 Actually wake people up.

00:01:58.040 Let me put that second.

00:01:59.040 I would say ultimately, yeah.

00:02:00.040 Seeking truth through funny.

00:02:01.040 That's my mission.

00:02:02.040 Seeking truth.

00:02:03.040 Is that like your motto?

00:02:04.040 Yeah.

00:02:05.040 That was my bio on Twitter before I got suspended.

00:02:08.040 What does that mean?

00:02:10.160 It means that I think the funniest thing is usually what ends up being

00:02:13.480 true that's what i find uh it's funny because it's true my favorite comedy has always been

00:02:18.240 truth tellers and truth seekers and that's the best type of comedy i don't like comedy without

00:02:23.920 a purpose i don't like just straight up dick jokes or race jokes or black people do this and

00:02:28.260 white people do that but even those jokes the funniest jokes of that nature are because it's

00:02:34.540 true they point out stereotypes and they point out realities of race that we ignore so i really like

00:02:41.380 my favorite stand-up comedians have always been almost social commentators like right here

00:02:45.800 i have uh dave chapelle's autograph he signed this hundred dollar bill he gave it to me at a

00:02:50.120 at a show um that was really cool like i i tell the whole story later but anyway my favorite

00:02:55.940 comedians like george carlin patrice o'neill dave chapelle louis ck bill burr all of them

00:03:00.460 my favorite bits they talk about a subject and they debunk it or they put a an opinion on it that

00:03:08.040 makes you view it in a different way like for example this uh the smaller comedian uh Marky

00:03:12.880 Gagnon I think he's on uh Andrew Schultz podcast not a lot of people know who he is but I recently

00:03:17.520 saw Andrew Schultz perform at Madison Square Garden and he had his his openers did a great

00:03:23.340 job and this guy Marky Gagnon is like probably like a millennial from he probably lives in

00:03:27.580 Brooklyn and he did this joke about Latinx and it was just the way it just debunked it

00:03:33.520 encompass how stupid it is to call people latinx and how white people only do it to try to seem

00:03:39.280 woke and how spanish people don't even care about it at all and you like to call people racist if

00:03:45.040 you don't it just it was a really great way to encompass how stupid that subject is and so i like

00:03:50.160 whenever i think about latinx now i think back to that bit and so i just gave that guy a lot of

00:03:54.940 credit for but yeah there's all types of subjects i can think back to a bit like dave chapelle's

00:04:01.680 um black uh the black white supremacist bit points out a lot of the double standards and

00:04:08.360 the faulty logic of racism and that's what i love because the funniest thing what makes me

00:04:14.280 always laugh the hardest is what's true you know there's a layer of bullshit in a lot of what we

00:04:19.300 talk about and comedy i think brings it back to reality that's one thing i've actually noticed

00:04:24.700 that's kind of interesting about you is one thing i've noticed when talking to like a lot of social

00:04:29.180 media people especially is it seems like most people in this space are very concerned about

00:04:34.600 optics um they're very concerned about like how they say things because they don't want to like

00:04:38.300 come across in a certain way and one thing i noticed about you is that you seem particularly

00:04:41.920 not concerned about optics at all um to the point where like sometimes people have to like

00:04:46.100 roll you back and be like hold up like slow down um do you know why would you agree with this yeah

00:04:52.300 i do completely right before i was a little bit late because i was watching uh this podcast and

00:04:56.980 these people were talking about how like he he's anti-semitic and it's like no i'm not i just was

00:05:01.500 talking to a guy who is i'm talking to nick fuentes and he was saying stuff like that and

00:05:04.920 just because i wasn't pushing back social media is so quick to like take ideas and run with it but

00:05:09.500 i just don't really care that much and i'm tired of hearing that like well i don't mean this well

00:05:13.200 to clarify that and it's just bullshit and we don't talk like that in real life when you're

00:05:16.780 talking to your friends and you're cracking jokes like that you don't always need to have a preamble

00:05:20.300 or preface this by not offending somebody it's just annoying so i don't want to have to filter

00:05:25.720 it for social media that's where a lot of the bullshit comes in and i just want to separate

00:05:29.260 that and i have a privilege in doing that because i'm mixed race i am a lot of different races all

00:05:34.200 in one so i nobody can call me racist which is a big advantage that i think i have i'm able to

00:05:38.400 talk about all these different subjects without offending someone but then i fuck up too at the

00:05:42.280 same time like i got in a big trouble big trouble with the islamic community because i didn't

00:05:46.600 realize like how much i was disrespecting the quran but i i was reacting to like haram behavior

00:05:51.740 and i was doing a joke because there's like a running joke in the red pill community like

00:05:55.300 that's haram that's haram and so every time i saw haram i started doing the muslim prayer i was

00:05:59.600 about to repeat it right now but i'm not going to because like the amount of threats i was got it's

00:06:03.020 really tempting to it's making me laugh just thinking about it but they got really upset about

00:06:06.520 it so there's certain thing that there's a good example of how not filtering yourself can go wrong

00:06:11.860 because like getting all the threats was not fun was not fun but i like to be able to joke and talk

00:06:17.460 about anything because i think that comedy comes from a place of truth if you are being funny you

00:06:22.180 are trying to make somebody laugh and even if the joke misses even the joke offends somebody you

00:06:26.360 should look back at the intention the intention was to make somebody smile so i defend anybody

00:06:30.860 who's trying to make a joke if they're genuinely trying to make you laugh and it misses or defend

00:06:35.040 somebody fuck that it comes from a good place so when you kind of rolled back from the muslim stuff

00:06:41.100 was that because you were getting attacked so much or did you realize that you were like actually

00:06:44.880 potentially like hurting people or like upsetting them in like a really real deep way for them like

00:06:49.780 what made you pull back i wasn't upsetting any but like people who were watching my stream they

00:06:53.780 weren't really upset about that they understood that i was probably like ignorant and didn't

00:06:56.520 realize like how it was disrespectful but i pulled back when someone made a montage on tiktok it went

00:07:00.920 viral and every single muslim person started sending me dms and sending me death threats

00:07:04.420 and i had like flooded with all these abduls muhammad's and ahmed's going like i'm gonna

00:07:08.500 they're really descriptive about like i'm gonna tie a rope around your neck like i'm gonna see

00:07:12.140 i'm gonna come outside your house with a baseball bat they're very descriptive with their threats

00:07:15.540 And I'm like, okay, this is, uh, I don't like censoring myself and I don't like succumbing

00:07:19.980 to cancel culture ever apologizing, but that's a circumstance where, you know what?

00:07:23.640 I don't want to get Charlie Hebdo'd.

00:07:25.040 Let me just not talk about this anymore.

00:07:27.240 Okay.

00:07:27.980 That's interesting.

00:07:28.800 I noticed also, was it yesterday or two days ago where you, you realized there's a lot

00:07:33.640 of incels in your chat?

00:07:35.520 Yeah, it was on my birthday.

00:07:37.200 Yeah, it was on my birthday.

00:07:38.320 I, I knew that they were there, but I didn't really think about, I didn't really think

00:07:43.660 about it that much.

00:07:44.200 i thought that i was trying to point it out and we can yeah it really opened up i went on an e-date

00:07:50.220 and there were two only fans girls on there i didn't realize that i didn't know there were

00:07:53.420 going to be only fans girls on the e-date i just thought it'd be fun it's my birthday i'm gonna go

00:07:55.700 and eat eight my i was right there my girlfriend we were gonna go like try to recruit girls it was

00:07:59.000 gonna be fun you know and they got so upset they were really really angry they were flooding they

00:08:05.040 got on my discord like he's a grifter like they were just so mad they were and i just saw the

00:08:10.620 attitude they had towards women i'm like why are you guys this mad about an e-date on a thursday

00:08:15.020 and on my birthday you're gonna get that and just because i'm talking to a girl who has only fans

00:08:19.200 people in the chat like she's suck you by suck you by like jesus demon sucker soul taker it's just a

00:08:25.060 it's just an e-date like we know what it is i wasn't trying to promote it i was actually telling

00:08:29.320 the only fans girl like you guys know how sad what your profession is making people i know they

00:08:33.660 danced around it but even then like they really got so upset just the fact for the fact that i

00:08:37.960 was talking to them there's one thing i think between promoting it and there's one the other

00:08:42.020 thing is just talking to them like they're at the end of the day i'm not promoting only fans i don't

00:08:45.800 think it's good for people but you could still talk to them like in edate they're like you're

00:08:50.180 simping for her no i'm not it's a discord call and this is a fucking stream why are you getting

00:08:54.780 so mad how did that make you feel though realizing like the level of hatred for women that exists in

00:09:00.960 some of your viewers it's my fault a lot of it i conjured up this audience and i did get i did

00:09:07.880 blow up the most when I was in my red pill rage thing like yelling and going and just going doing

00:09:14.560 all these jokes about how women are brainwashed and about how Kim Kardashian's ruining people and

00:09:18.600 just all letting it all out like that really drew in a lot of people so I tapped into incels across

00:09:25.580 the world and I don't even like using that word because I don't think you should use it as an

00:09:28.980 insult but I'm not trying to use it as an insult it's just the truth of the fact like the one in

00:09:32.560 three men have not had sex or are virgins and that's a crazy statistic that's true so let's be

00:09:37.520 honest that they you know I have a lot of incels that watch my video uh they watch my streams and

00:09:42.820 everything and it made me it it didn't make me feel bad it's just like like oh all right I guess

00:09:49.020 I really need to approach this with more with more self-improvement in mind like yes I want to

00:09:57.080 seek truth through funny but I recently just had Hamza on my stream I don't know if you know he is

00:10:00.400 just a self-improvement youtuber like one of the guys saying don't jerk off Adonis work out every

00:10:04.440 day don't i had him on we used to have beef and i was beforehand i'm like i'm just an entertainer

00:10:08.720 i don't care about this bullshit but a lot of guys could really use that and they seek it out

00:10:12.080 online because the mentors they have in real life are not helping them a lot so it made me realize

00:10:16.780 that okay i need to try to be somewhat of a role model too um and no i'm not very good at it but i

00:10:23.920 think that that would be better than like turning into a soy boy who's trying to ban me

00:10:26.980 what uh how do you think you can be a role model like what does that mean to you

00:10:34.440 And I don't, I don't even really want to be, but I just want to set a good example for, I would rather that people try to seek truth and get away from the bullshit that's on social media than become part of it.

00:10:49.280 Like, I think it's better, maybe not even becoming a role model, but I think it's better if people find my content than finding, like, Ethan Decline or Lasanabe, just, like, people just complaining all day, this is disgusting, I hate this, or just Ethan Decline, who just gets on stream and lies every day, and just sits there and talks about how the gym is, like, a waste of time, just defeating bullshit to his viewers.

00:11:10.020 i'd rather that young the people that we saw in the climbing gym like stuff like that like the

00:11:14.620 14 15 year olds who watch myself most of them are not by the way most of my audience is probably

00:11:18.420 like 1920 but anyway those 14 15 year olds i think it's better if they find content where

00:11:23.240 somebody's actively trying to seek truth rather than finding streamers and youtubers who are

00:11:27.480 feeding them lies and just coping all day and are the faces of cancel culture those people will lie

00:11:34.160 on a regular basis to get more viewers they don't want to improve they don't want to encourage

00:11:38.900 ambition. They want to encourage them. They are part of the brainwashing. They're encouraging

00:11:43.480 men to get weaker and slower and dumber and take antidepressants. And it's just disgusting. I hate

00:11:48.360 that. And I'd rather steer them against that. Maybe not a role model, but I'm trying to push

00:11:52.420 men away from that. Why do you hate it? Personally?

00:11:59.740 Because it's just so full of shit. I hate bullshit. Why?

00:12:03.980 yeah it disgusts me just making like what you're just gonna lie i don't i get repulsed by it and

00:12:12.120 i don't know i i can't why do i hate bullshit yeah when did that start like how old do you

00:12:19.460 remember how old you were the first time you're like that's bullshit and you had like this disgust

00:12:22.960 response to it probably i was like eight years old in catechism i thought that a bunch of the stuff

00:12:29.140 and that we were learning about like I was listening to the the priest drone on and do a

00:12:33.700 speech uh every single day I go to church every day and I was like what the fuck does this guy

00:12:37.620 know I'm eight and I'm like what does he know the guy can't get married all he does is go to church

00:12:42.920 every day he has no life experience and he's trying to tell me stuff about life I don't this

00:12:46.420 is boring I hate this I'm sitting there wearing my socks and my church shoes and my khakis I hate

00:12:52.340 this why am I here I want to go play with Legos I used to like sneak in rubber bands just to play

00:12:57.440 with it in church because like every day okay stand up sit down kneel get the thing get the

00:13:04.280 just like routine it's like what am i doing i'm just trying i'm just here to conform with everybody

00:13:08.240 else yeah just think so eight tell me okay tell me a little bit about your life you grew up um

00:13:16.420 you don't need to like say necessarily the city but what demographics were you growing up around

00:13:20.460 were you like middle class lower class born in new york city and i lived in brooklyn for a little bit

00:13:26.000 but i mostly grew up in new haven connecticut new haven they call it a pistol wave in new haven

00:13:30.680 it's a city it's big for connecticut it's only like 125 000 people and it's weird because new

00:13:37.800 haven is simultaneously the hood but also really suburban connecticut so you have the combination

00:13:44.360 of like greenwich uh new york commuters who go like work in expensive offices and doctors and

00:13:49.380 a bunch of yale employees but also like you literally a street over is the projects and

00:13:54.160 that's why they call it yeah like it's a super stratified town right where there's like kind of

00:13:57.920 like the elites and then there's like the townies and they like don't really interact at all which

00:14:01.800 were you so i was it's weird because i was like a combination of both like i i my neighborhood was

00:14:08.000 it was okay i would say middle class like very diverse um i wouldn't call it like white suburban

00:14:14.060 but there was a bit of everybody but yeah i had a front yard but then also i went to private school

00:14:18.580 i had a scholarship i never went to public school my whole life i was in private school my entire

00:14:22.200 life off of scholarships and so i was around those waspy type people my whole childhood i was always

00:14:28.920 kind of and it took me a long time to realize that i was an outsider i didn't fully understand why i

00:14:34.520 didn't fit in until i was like going through puberty and like they think i'm different and

00:14:39.560 my mom always wanted to be my mom is the asian one my dad's uh haitian my mom asians have this thing

00:14:45.640 where they kind of try to blend in as the token minority so instead of i never got like the black

00:14:51.640 talk where you know black kids will get the talk like they don't they don't like you you know

00:14:56.140 saying like watch out for the cops my mom would just like try to blend me in and try to fit in

00:14:59.720 with the white people and i didn't it didn't work out for me because not one i'm not not full asian

00:15:04.260 and two it's like i don't they don't like me like i don't want to have to fit in with them i don't

00:15:10.420 want to match them just to get them their approval or whatever they don't even they don't even like

00:15:16.200 me like why am i gonna have to go undercover and pretend you know i'm saying like a lot of asians

00:15:19.820 will just try to assimilate assimilate and they won't try to speak up they don't talk loud they're

00:15:25.580 just quiet and they want to fit into white america because they're the token minority and i think

00:15:30.060 that's when i realized i forgot your question i'm just talking right now no you're good so went to

00:15:34.300 private school was never fit in did you have friends like were you when you say never fit in

00:15:38.240 what does that mean specifically they would all go to the lawn club or like the pool club after

00:15:46.060 school and like with the golf clubs and the the pool and the squash and the you know saying the

00:15:52.980 white people shit and then i asked my mom like can i can we join yeah tennis like pink short shorts

00:15:58.180 vineyard vines and i'm like mama can we go there i want to go to long i want to hang out with all

00:16:03.920 my friends like are you kidding me we can't afford that the long like there was this one uh pool club

00:16:09.660 that um the whole school went to and it was like up until like 1960s they didn't even allow jews

00:16:14.880 there it's it's crazy how segregated this place is and i'm like i didn't understand like all my

00:16:19.900 friends are going here after school i want to go too it's like no we can't fucking afford that

00:16:23.160 what are you talking about we're not going to the lawn club that was but i i said i had friends like

00:16:28.380 i they were my friends but we're just very different we just live different i had huge

00:16:32.080 houses with pools and some like my friends had elevators in their cribs i grew up around some

00:16:35.940 rich fucking kids man elevators in the crib movie theaters in the crib my they'd be like the big

00:16:41.520 gaming systems the giant tvs and i'd always want to sleep over so i could play call of duty over

00:16:45.320 there um my mom would never let me play the video games when i was young i had a wee and so i just

00:16:49.980 could be over there with their sick food all the dope snacks giant pools bikes everything like that

00:16:55.960 that was where i wanted to go have fun and then i go back home and it was like you know a little

00:17:00.300 we had uh action figures and stuff like that game boys wasn't it wasn't as fun right because you

00:17:06.420 were more middle class right so you didn't have access to all of like the elevators and pools

00:17:10.080 and dirt bikes and atvs right yeah okay so you didn't fit in uh private school through

00:17:16.060 scholarships what kind of scholarships were these like grades or no it weren't grades i think that

00:17:21.300 there were minority scholarships i could take off a lot of boxes because i'm very mixed so it's like

00:17:26.720 the minority quota they i check off like 17 boxes at once so i'm a good student to have if you want

00:17:33.440 to you know put a picture up on the website actually they didn't really put me on the website

00:17:36.460 but I was good for the diversity quote I think like for high school especially that school was

00:17:42.120 like 50 grand a year I went for free not to like I think a thousand a year oh that's crazy so were

00:17:48.660 you good at school like did you enjoy it I wasn't bad I also I was I would say it was like up until

00:17:55.360 like eighth grade I was one of the smarter kids I was really fast doing the multiplication tables

00:18:01.140 and everything and I picked up a lot of stuff quickly I was always pretty good at English and

00:18:04.620 writing i got comments from my teachers but then after like science and chemistry and algebra and

00:18:09.040 the the letters came in to the numbers i just lost it and i just cheated on everything i cheated on

00:18:14.580 my sat i cheated on every standardized test i cheated on all my homework i just i just found

00:18:20.300 a way to finesse it which i think is like almost as smart as the smart kids because you know at

00:18:25.340 the end of the day you get the same results you're just doing work a different way do you feel behind

00:18:30.400 though because you didn't learn that stuff as much you had to like cheat your way through

00:18:33.800 no not at all how do you when you tell people that you cheated the way through does it do you

00:18:40.480 care about it or because you said it makes me like feel smart is that like a cope or do you

00:18:44.920 genuinely kind of feel proud that you cheated you right through not feel proud after grade i think

00:18:49.200 it's dope i like going i like finessing i think it's i think that's interesting and also i dropped

00:18:56.420 out of school and i do my own thing i don't work a job i just got my own thing going on it makes me

00:19:01.140 i guess i feel a sense of pride that like yo i didn't fuck the system i did what i want i did

00:19:04.900 it my own way i don't feel any sense like oh i'm not as smart as the smart kids because i didn't

00:19:09.060 study the pythagorean theorem i did the shit my own way like you guys did you did what you were

00:19:14.480 told to do fuck that shit i found my own path do you think most people can do what you did

00:19:19.400 yeah but make their own path

00:19:24.660 i think most people can but most people won't because they just don't believe they can or they

00:19:31.960 they think it's bad i remember telling my brother for example that i cheated on the standardized

00:19:35.520 test he's like why would you do that no that's bad and it's like shut up shut up i don't i can't

00:19:42.640 say the word that i called him but i called him a slur shut up okay so dropped out did you drop

00:19:50.140 out of high school no i dropped out of college so you don't think that you're like unique in

00:19:55.420 any way like you think anyone could do what you did yeah do you think anyone could be where you

00:20:03.020 are right now like you're kind of like essentially you're replaceable like what you're doing is

00:20:07.120 unique but not so unique that nobody else could just be exactly where you are doing the same

00:20:11.360 stuff and yeah anybody can do what do i do i talk to a camera i make jokes i react to videos i film

00:20:18.300 stuff make cinematic stuff i learned an editing program from youtube tutorials like the shit i do

00:20:23.420 is not that hard it just just don't care about a lot i think what makes me unique i guess is the

00:20:29.180 fact that i don't care about a lot of stuff that people care about why don't you have you ever

00:20:34.540 cared i did and i just didn't what didn't make me happy okay tell me about that i guess i cared

00:20:45.100 about fitting in and then it felt lame and i didn't i remember trying to like impress the

00:20:52.720 cool kids to try to get their approval and never getting respect because once you realize later on

00:20:57.980 cool people can sniff that out like nobody wants to be with the guy who wants your attention so

00:21:03.540 bad they want to be with somebody else who got their own thing going on nobody like the guy like

00:21:07.800 oh please like me it's like very obvious and once i realized that i'm like fuck why am i trying to

00:21:13.280 be liked so bad i want to do my own thing and then i realized that people are attracted to that

00:21:18.020 okay how old were you when that change happened

00:21:21.600 probably it was like a slow like all through puberty like probably like yeah 12 to or maybe

00:21:29.640 even like 10 to 15 it was like a gradual learning process and then is that when you started doing

00:21:34.340 youtube because i think you started youtube around 15 right i started youtube when i was 14 my first

00:21:39.280 channel maybe i was like 12 but like the this my main channel sneeko i started uh 2013 i was

00:21:45.380 yeah i was 14 turning 15 yeah i was 14 years old when i started that channel and all my videos are

00:21:50.240 still up hopefully they're probably gonna go dig it up and try to cancel me for shit i said when

00:21:53.620 i was 14 but i'm gonna leave all those videos up that actually helped me a lot finding my voice and

00:21:58.480 becoming more of like finding my own personality and not trying to impress people was making like

00:22:06.080 my call of duty commentaries because i was alone in my room just talking being able to express

00:22:09.820 myself freely not caring about judgment not caring about how people looked at me that really was a

00:22:14.220 big that a big effect on me being in school and then trying to be liked all the time by people

00:22:18.440 that you know i don't even really have anything in common with when i found that online and i

00:22:23.380 kept it secret for so long i didn't tell anybody when they found out i got made fun of a lot

00:22:26.620 obviously but i didn't it didn't bother me that much i'm like yeah i'm doing my own thing man

00:22:30.680 what are you doing right okay so you started doing that did it make you feel like the big

00:22:35.600 fish like were you successful at all or were you just you just enjoyed kind of the freedom of

00:22:40.000 getting to like do what you wanted to do i wasn't that successful in hindsight but at the time like

00:22:47.300 i remember getting my first youtube adsense check when i was like 14 and i bought this pillow that

00:22:52.280 i could put up against my wall like a pillow that you could lean up on like this and i remember

00:22:55.520 every day like coming back from school and leaning on this like yo i bought this with youtube money

00:23:00.180 like you're thrown made it yeah like this is my man cave i paid for this from call of duty videos

00:23:06.140 i was so proud of that this one item i made that from talking to a camera playing call of duty

00:23:12.320 that took so much by i thought i thought that was successful what did your parents think

00:23:17.560 they simultaneous they still have the same exact attitude towards my youtube channel as they did

00:23:22.680 when i started both of them my mom is uh kind of on the side of like twitter cancel culture

00:23:28.200 where she's like you need to stop doing this like you but she'll also send me books like this and

00:23:33.700 she'll want me to improve and stuff like that she's still a mom my dad at the start like you

00:23:38.060 know he had like mixed opinions about the stuff i was saying but he was very supportive my dad was

00:23:41.640 one of the most supportive people and i think maybe that's the reason that uh i can do what

00:23:46.720 a lot of people can't do i guess when it comes to this like i have a very very supportive dad

00:23:50.980 who almost lives vicariously through me he we went to the same school for the same we both went to

00:23:56.180 a school in new york for for film but he ended up getting a job and like really raising his family

00:24:01.860 full-time and my parents are still together almost like almost nobody i know is like that

00:24:05.740 they've been married for 30 years my dad has been fully committed to being a dad and he was like

00:24:09.980 that support that i think a lot of people don't have that really made me successful so he's really

00:24:16.500 cool yeah and he was uh one of the biggest things i remember he bought me my elgato game capture

00:24:22.360 um from best buy i when i was really trying to start that was the big deal it was like two hundred

00:24:27.080 dollars but that was such a big deal for like a teenager to have an elgato that was like yo you

00:24:31.860 can now do this you can make youtube videos he was supportive um i kept it secret for them for

00:24:36.780 a long time i think my only my my younger brother knew my younger brother vincent he's 18 months

00:24:41.080 younger i was only telling him my sister didn't even know about my youtube channel for like two

00:24:43.800 years after i made it i did but yeah my my dad was always very supportive he's always like one

00:24:48.320 of him by he still is like my biggest fan that's really cool he's gonna watch this how you doing

00:24:53.160 hey how um how many of your fans have a good dad in their life how many of my fans um i would say

00:25:04.240 not as i haven't thought about that before but i think a lot of men like what i noticed when i

00:25:12.380 started streaming is that a lot of men are looking for some sense of guidance

00:25:15.200 so a lot of men are really lost and they look for it online and it didn't take that long to figure

00:25:21.480 it out just you know i have a 95% male audience and i was just seeing the chat and the stuff that

00:25:24.700 they were telling me to react to the stuff that they were interested in i'm like this is really

00:25:28.420 what's going on this is the common psyche for the average man in the west or the average man

00:25:33.200 with the internet connection all over the world and that woke me up and so maybe uh i think that

00:25:39.260 it's rare i don't think a lot of my stream has the same father figure that that i have had

00:25:44.020 which helps me and it probably trickles down from him onto the viewers yeah we were talking about

00:25:49.740 like do you think anyone could do what you're doing or are unique and like that's not something

00:25:53.820 you've done but that's one really unique thing about you is you have a really good dad um so

00:25:58.180 your dad is super supportive so it sounds like he basically i'm not sure if i was understanding

00:26:02.620 it sounded like he had like a bit of a dream and he gave up on some of that to like support you

00:26:06.520 guys as a family did i understand that correctly or am i just making up a narrative that's true i

00:26:11.300 mean he he's still a really talented artist like you see these these pictures over here um i have

00:26:15.940 been having these up for a while these are a lot of people think these are paintings these are

00:26:18.780 photographs that my dad took oh wow that's beautiful and the other one yeah they're both

00:26:23.440 rust right it looks like um people have no idea what it is the guy's extremely flowers yeah everyone

00:26:28.840 thinks his flowers are like a picture of skyline picture of an ocean i don't have the one in here

00:26:33.460 but he didn't get to fully commit to his his dream to be an artist but he still he does shows he has

00:26:40.380 his website he does his photography i would consider him a great artist but he wasn't able

00:26:44.040 to fully focus on it like i am because uh as his dad wasn't around as much as he is as a father

00:26:49.820 which i think is probably why he was so committed to being a good dad is because his dad was kind of

00:26:53.960 he was a drinker stuff like that the guy fought in world war ii and he was um probably like you

00:26:58.960 know the toxic male like i don't hate that word toxic but like that john wayne type guy where you

00:27:05.900 don't talk about your feelings ever you don't connect with your kids you don't hug him because

00:27:08.960 gay. That was my grandfather. And so I think it really had an effect on my dad and he wanted to

00:27:13.700 be the best father he could be. And that it really helped me a lot. Super cool. Can you tell me more

00:27:19.580 about your dad? Like what made him because you're describing like the comparison between your

00:27:23.620 grandpa and your father. So like, what's the difference? Like your grandpa seemed like kind

00:27:27.420 of cold, removed kind of alcoholic. What was your dad like? Well, I never met my grandfather. He died

00:27:34.160 before I was born. But that's just stuff that I've heard from my dad. And he was more

00:27:38.420 he would beat up his kids and stuff like that i mean i got hit but nothing crazy nothing terrible

00:27:44.480 like i'm not traumatized um my dad was just very supportive like always he here's an example of my

00:27:50.480 dad like i was i played really competitive soccer when i was growing up like i used to play against

00:27:55.580 like the academy players like people who are now professional i used to play against them

00:27:59.440 i was probably one of the worst players on the team but i was like and i was a sub i ain't gonna

00:28:03.560 why like i was just i was on the bench but my dad would drive like four hours to go to a game it'd

00:28:08.800 be in the rain and he's there and like i'd be on the bench and it doesn't matter he's still on the

00:28:12.220 sideline holding his umbrella and then when i get on i'd be like pressure pressure anticipate come

00:28:17.660 on like really living vicariously through me you know i'm saying it's like and even now he still

00:28:23.580 sees it that way everything that i'm doing online and all the work i created all the artistic videos

00:28:27.220 that you like on my main channel he sees it as like kind of like he's playing a video game

00:28:31.920 like he's playing the sims and i'm his character so in a sense it's like he didn't give up on his

00:28:39.080 dream he just passed it along to me how does he uh how does he treat your mom they've been married

00:28:44.640 for how many years 30 yeah over 30 years something like that wow that's crazy they have a good

00:28:50.260 relationship yeah they do have a great relationship yeah that's super cool how to so what is he modeled

00:28:56.400 to you like what do you like do you view him as a good man yeah great man yeah great great man and

00:29:02.440 like a great example of a great father yeah how would you care it's crazy talking about this i

00:29:06.640 haven't you know what i just wanted before you answer the next question like i almost haven't

00:29:10.460 wanted to talk about that one because it's like it almost seems less cool because there's like

00:29:15.360 when when you have read a movie or something like that or when you someone becomes successful

00:29:18.780 there's always a story of how they triumphed the odds and how their parents weren't around

00:29:22.680 and everything it's like i have really supportive parents who love me and they really helped me it's

00:29:27.460 like it's almost like taking away some of the credit that you have because you have supportive

00:29:31.900 parents and so i haven't really that's actually a reason i haven't talked about it that much because

00:29:34.900 like i want it to be independent i want to do my own thing and a lot of times i i've downplayed a

00:29:39.660 lot of the effect he's had on me um my mom too my mom like very i mean we disagree about pretty

00:29:46.160 much everything but um yeah my dad is like we connect on a different level where yeah but yeah

00:29:53.200 that's basically why I haven't talked about it that much because I just don't want to I don't

00:29:56.600 want people to think it's lame that I've had supportive parents and also I almost feel bad

00:30:00.360 in a sense talking about how the fact that I have a supportive father because of how many people

00:30:03.460 don't it really I thought that that was more normal when I was growing up and almost everybody

00:30:10.440 I barely everyone I said like my parents are together like what the fuck it's really the

00:30:14.880 nuclear families falling apart and it makes me it's like i don't want people to to feel like a

00:30:22.480 like why didn't it happen to me i was just did a podcast with bradley martin and he was talking

00:30:26.160 about how his dad wasn't around and he was like he was tearing up on the podcast and the guy was

00:30:30.240 like he that guy taught me how to lift weights back like back in the day when i was going to the

00:30:34.160 gym this guy was like a like a role model for me and then to see him like talk about how much of an

00:30:39.120 effect it is that he didn't have a dad i was like geez it's almost like i don't want to talk about

00:30:42.480 it so that people don't get feel jealous it's it's interesting because i feel like hearing about

00:30:48.820 your story and whatnot i think knowing that you have like it sounds like you have gratitude for

00:30:54.260 your dad uh especially like both of your parents but especially your dad who is like your number

00:30:58.000 one supporter am i understanding that correctly that you're super grateful to your dad yeah i feel

00:31:03.460 like gratitude is an incredible thing to have and the main thing i find when people tell their

00:31:08.500 stories that makes us like uncomfortable and not like it is when there's like lots of weird coping

00:31:12.980 going on right it's like if you've had a really good life there's nothing wrong with just being

00:31:17.360 grateful for it um because i think as you especially as you start meeting more and more of

00:31:22.020 your fans you realize that that is a rare thing that you have um i think it's cool i think you

00:31:27.920 should praise your dad more because we can learn from that if nothing i used to like tell my friends

00:31:33.360 i'm like sometimes if your like life is just good it's helpful for the rest of us of being like

00:31:38.300 holy shit somebody did it right your dad did it you know he came from a kind of a messed up

00:31:43.080 childhood his dad wasn't great and he like totally turned the tide for his family like

00:31:47.420 he did it it's possible yeah i guess that's a success story that's not heard a lot about but

00:31:54.800 yeah you're right you're right it's an undersold success story because like the most important one

00:32:00.820 is your dad turned around and just figured out basically by himself how to be a good father

00:32:06.340 that's pretty cool it's basically just doing the opposite of what his dad did

00:32:11.460 yeah probably more than that i imagine it's probably more complex

00:32:15.700 but it's still cool because usually we just kind of become

00:32:19.980 what we're raised to be we like kind of repeat the cycle right

00:32:23.840 yeah most people how are you like your dad

00:32:30.260 i think we have uh the same photographer's eye i think i inherited that from him um i

00:32:39.040 am getting more into the crypto online entrepreneur make money drop shipper type

00:32:46.280 like crypto bro dudes like i'm becoming more like that because i want to be financially

00:32:49.620 independent but at my core i'm gonna want to be smoking cigarette earnest hemingway deep

00:32:55.280 artist staying at a cafe reminiscing about life you know romanticizing everything i like i have

00:33:00.980 this generally i'd be like writing stories and movie ideas and is there art in there i thought

00:33:06.780 i saw art uh just scribbles and stuff i don't really consider that art yeah nothing crazy

00:33:13.240 this one's cool so you're an artist at heart yeah i think i got that we we both have that

00:33:21.080 but i've been doing it for so long on my main channel and it wasn't as profitable as it needed

00:33:27.720 to be to really do everything i wanted to do so streaming has been able to to tap into that more

00:33:33.000 and also connect with the more uh direct level i want to get back to that deep artist stuff but

00:33:37.300 i think that you need to have life experience in order to make a good movie and i want to be i

00:33:42.720 don't know i say like i want to be 35 when i make my first film but maybe i should get started

00:33:45.920 sooner but yeah i i'm i'm an artist but before streamer that's like really what i am the streamer

00:33:51.440 shit is just uh it's a hobby a little side hustle right what do you want to do with your art

00:33:57.840 see true through funny like the like the happiness clip that you made yes yes that video how to be

00:34:05.920 happy yeah is that one of your like because i know when i mentioned that to you when we were like

00:34:10.880 walking around in miami it seemed like you like appreciated that i knew that video and it seems

00:34:15.520 like you're really proud of that video yeah there's a lot of those videos um how to view women

00:34:21.280 how people view you everything happens for a reason fake it till you make it one of my favorites

00:34:25.040 of all time is how to view women and this is part of the reason that i started streaming

00:34:30.480 i made this video called how to view women and it took a month a lot of writing scripting filming

00:34:36.640 like hiring filmers it was just overall that video is so good it's like 19 minutes long

00:34:41.280 it feels like a tv show that's one of my best of all time took a month like grinding out the edits

00:34:46.320 and everything i posted it does well and then la sanabi reacts to it i never heard about this guy

00:34:51.120 before and i see him reacting people are messaging me like this guy's reacted to your stuff i tune in

00:34:55.280 there's 40 000 people watching and the guy's just sitting here biting his nails this is stupid

00:35:00.880 this guy's an incel this guy's an incel and i'm like what the 40 000 live viewers in all the

00:35:06.480 chats incel incel incel incel what the you don't even get it you don't even get the video but he

00:35:11.600 probably made more money reacting to something that took me a month just complaining about it

00:35:17.860 and lying and not even understanding the fucking concept of the video i'm like this is this is the

00:35:23.300 internet why am i spending a month making this artistic video trying to connect with people

00:35:26.860 making something different and unique when you could bite your nails sit down and make and profit

00:35:32.040 off and make this much money fuck that so i'm like let me do this let me show you that i'm better

00:35:36.700 than you and i i'm gonna be better than all these fucking streamers like hating on me all of them

00:35:41.280 i've been streaming for like three months and now there's now they're reacting to me every single

00:35:44.340 day saying the same stuff and i just want to prove a point that i can be entered more entertaining

00:35:48.100 than you i can be faster than you i can be funnier than you at your own job and this is a side hustle

00:35:52.880 i'm an artist bro i'm doing my own stuff on sneaker on main channel i could tap into you

00:35:57.460 streaming shit and watch me blow up and watch me expose you so once i really expose these people

00:36:01.800 once i really make them look stupid once people start to realize the truth of how much bullshit

00:36:05.840 they're being fed to by these liars every single day then i could happily be like all right let me

00:36:10.360 take a let me take a step back from streaming for a little bit let me go back to doing my my

00:36:14.600 artistic videos but yeah i did really appreciate that you saw that video because a lot of people

00:36:20.280 have just found out about me from the streaming itself which i love i love streaming so much i

00:36:23.320 kind of consider it uh my stand-up comedy i that's what i originally that's the reason i started

00:36:28.480 youtube when i was 14 was yeah i told you before it was because i wanted to stand-up comedy and i

00:36:32.860 i've done stand-up comedy i've performed at clubs like some of my favorite clubs sometimes people

00:36:36.960 call me a failed stand-up comedian even though i just heard 24 and people start at this age

00:36:40.440 this is when center comedians really start but i've already performed at some of my favorite

00:36:44.380 clubs as a kid the clubs that i performed at and like i've killed crowds before that was my dream

00:36:50.280 as a kid and i've i've done it now the next step is like get it making a special but the climate's

00:36:56.440 changed and people get offended so easily so i need to figure out a way to navigate that and

00:37:01.040 live streaming in a sense like having a chat in front of you i consider that like a performance

00:37:04.760 i treat it like a performance every single day a lot of streamers will get on and yeah your world

00:37:08.880 is different than my uh streaming world your world is like communication going back and forth

00:37:13.420 destiny streaming for nine hours playing dnd and watching you know reading documents and shit like

00:37:18.100 that you know saying like nerdy shit i like to go in playing it beforehand i'm like this is a show

00:37:23.720 i started off i got my intro music i'm thinking about how it's going to be pre-recorded for

00:37:27.580 youtube i do the outro song i'm thinking about it like this is a fucking show i got my live

00:37:33.020 audience in here and they don't just sit there like biting my nail this is dumb i'm thinking

00:37:37.300 like i need to entertain these people i don't i don't like well that's just not the way i do i

00:37:41.220 don't like just to stream and play games all day like a lot of time when i started they wanted me

00:37:44.140 to play video games i didn't want to do that but yeah i appreciate the fact that you saw that video

00:37:48.260 because people know me from mostly know me from streaming it's like they don't even know about

00:37:51.600 the fact they don't even know my art is shy they don't even know my real shit this is this is a

00:37:55.060 side hustle isn't that kind of interesting though right like i think i asked you about this as well

00:38:01.360 may i may be like do you do you want to do the streaming more do you want to do your art because

00:38:06.000 i remember saying like the art was way more meaningful to me like the streaming stuff to

00:38:10.980 be honest like i don't personally enjoy it that much i'm also not a person who watches streamers

00:38:15.060 though but like when i watched your art versus when i've seen some of your streams it made me be

00:38:19.640 like this guy is so much deeper and like has a much richer understanding of the world and his

00:38:25.160 stream suggests and i would be sad if all of your viewers didn't spend enough time watching your art

00:38:33.240 and so they mostly got takeaways from your stream um just because of the level of intentionality

00:38:39.240 that goes into the art that you create thank you that's the best compliment i've ever received

00:38:44.580 no yeah i'm not gonna stick i love it but you also see the i've seen the shift in it too it's

00:38:53.560 like my attention span has almost gotten worse because of streaming it's like thinking about

00:38:57.500 sitting down and editing up a video for a month and scripting it and hiring a filmer and going

00:39:01.780 back and forth when you could just do what destiny does like just go rock climbing and stream it and

00:39:06.160 then it's done like i had a filmer there i had my editors like his premiere crashed and i'm still

00:39:10.800 like trying to work on this documentary that destiny has already had up for like a week it's

00:39:15.280 fucking annoying streaming is so quick now move on to the next thing it's fast-paced social media

00:39:19.940 short attention span and my brain has almost been trained to get used to this it's like why would i

00:39:25.240 sit down and i see these videos where like i would draw on the videos too like everything happens

00:39:30.540 reason i did all these drawings and i did set up all these shots and i was stepping stacking cards

00:39:34.680 like going around all over uh new york city and thinking about doing that now spending two weeks

00:39:40.240 on a video seems terrible when if i can make one reaction video that has double the views why you

00:39:47.500 know like just the the it really sucks in a sense because it's like if you only think about money

00:39:53.420 and views it's like why the fuck would i ever go back to that but it's not sustainable it's not

00:39:59.260 sustainable being that deep artist right now and especially for like how people how quickly people

00:40:04.520 can get manipulated by liars like lasanabe when i'm making a satirical video or i'm having in like

00:40:09.560 uh an ironic perspective about incel nature and you go incel incel you're just so dumb and you

00:40:15.280 can't fight that fast enough doing my stuff but it's not even about fight especially you need to

00:40:20.780 get out of social media i want to make movies eventually yeah it makes me um i would agree

00:40:26.200 that the streaming the fast stuff is it sells that's why streamers make so much money and

00:40:31.780 they're kind of like lazy it makes me think about like your dad though like your dad kind of had

00:40:36.680 like two choices which would be like pursuing art which isn't simple um but instead he chose

00:40:43.240 like some level of responsibility which in his case was his family and his children um do you

00:40:48.780 ever think about like your responsibility within like the world or what you want to like be putting

00:40:52.860 out there yeah i do when i noticed how misogynistic a lot of my fans are and how angry they got just

00:41:00.960 seeing women on a screen it's like it's almost like i have a responsibility to to try to steer

00:41:06.200 away from that because i've went down that path and i got out of it but it could be it can go the

00:41:11.720 wrong way and i the other day i was sitting at the pool and like these nine-year-old kids were

00:41:16.560 jumping in the pool and then i noticed them start whispering and pointing at me i'm like these

00:41:19.920 you were making fun of the fact that 14 girls are coming up to me tick tock i swear to god my main

00:41:25.240 channel stuff it's only it's been people in their 20s 30s and everything this streaming stuff and

00:41:29.220 especially the fact that i'm viral on tick tock all the time nine-year-old kids jenny i've never

00:41:34.600 seen that in my life and they come up to me they take a picture they're excited and nine-year-olds

00:41:39.280 it's almost like you have a responsibility to try to be a role model for these kids even though I'm

00:41:46.040 not perfect even though I'm dumb in a lot of ways I make a lot of mistakes but the best role model

00:41:51.280 I can be is showing people that I am human which is great for this show a lot of these social media

00:41:56.880 stars and stuff like that they pretend like they're the guru like they know everything they're

00:42:00.680 always right this is the stance follow me but i actively like to grow and change with my stream

00:42:07.160 i like to show people that humans do not know everything inherently we are flawed we make

00:42:12.700 mistakes you can change your mind i've changed my mind a lot of things like i only recently started

00:42:16.880 talking about god and stuff like that i was an atheist for like eight years and so showing my

00:42:21.500 audience that you can grow and develop i think is the best example that you can give to young kids

00:42:26.480 because now with what's happening on social media,

00:42:29.600 they can really like just follow this person.

00:42:31.460 And you saw the obsession with Tate, for example,

00:42:33.580 like everybody like worshiping this guy

00:42:35.340 and Tate saying like, I'm one of God's favorites.

00:42:37.700 It's like, I don't wanna be that.

00:42:40.400 And people are saying like, he's a false alpha male.

00:42:42.220 I've never once called myself an alpha male.

00:42:44.260 I don't wanna be, like, I don't wanna be worshiped.

00:42:49.120 I don't wanna be a guru.

00:42:50.420 I just want you to know that humans make mistakes,

00:42:52.940 humans change humans.

00:42:54.340 You need to actively seek out truth.

00:42:56.340 you need to think critically that's the example it's like yes i have a responsibility to these

00:43:00.580 kids to show them that right it sounds like you kind of want to blend a mixture of like humility

00:43:05.460 like epistemic humility especially and like empathy um i'd be curious with for example

00:43:12.820 one group that i find really hard to empathize with and maybe you would be similar is like

00:43:17.780 kind of these like woke scold people do you think for example when you're talking about like women

00:43:21.620 do you think that you you communicate to your audience epistemic humility and uh empathy with

00:43:29.820 these women not at all no it's just you want to not really it's not as funny it's more funny i

00:43:39.660 think funny comes from a place of emotion and that a lot i get a lot of complaints people saying like

00:43:44.180 why are you so emotional you need to be like a male never has emotions but that's where funny

00:43:48.260 comes from is like i think funny comes from love and hate and empathy is it's just i don't know i

00:43:53.440 don't find that as funny i think i could tell people about it a little bit but when i react

00:43:57.660 and when i talk about stuff and when i'm trying to be wild and crazy and entertain people i think

00:44:01.600 epistemic empathy is boring i think about do you like bo burnham at all yeah i do okay bo burnham

00:44:10.680 seems to me as like the key because i would agree mixing empathy and comedy and epistemic humility

00:44:15.640 is like really difficult to do um because like there's nothing really funny about being like

00:44:21.320 hey guys like i know that these women are like whatever you're describing them as but like you

00:44:25.680 know probably a lot of them have like had a tough life and like they might change a blah blah like

00:44:29.300 that's not really funny but bo burnham somehow does a really good job of empathizing with people

00:44:36.980 and also being hilarious like his latest one inside is such an incredibly empathetic

00:44:43.000 film even though it's super weird and it's super funny right you have like white women's instagram

00:44:49.280 and stuff like that i'm curious what you think about that because i i beau is like probably one

00:44:55.160 of my favorite um comedians personally beau and dave chapelle yeah it was good it was really good

00:45:01.020 but he doesn't have mean humor great he does or can you give an example something in that movie

00:45:07.580 where he was showing empathy um i think especially at the end i really love how because i my favorite

00:45:16.240 thing about comedy is kind of what you said like it's all about the emotion right that's something

00:45:21.180 i appreciate about you is like there's so many men that try to be like emotions bad feelings are bad

00:45:25.400 they're gross but got to be stoic and it's like emotions just are and in fact they're like the

00:45:29.580 birthplace of some of the best stuff right and so like in comedy the best thing i think comedians

00:45:35.860 can do and artists and i would view comedians as artists that they do is they kind of like take you

00:45:40.060 on like an emotional journey comedians leading a lot into the humor side right and so like maybe

00:45:45.380 i'll use actually the story of like i'll use dave chapelle's recent um thing remember where he talks

00:45:50.180 about like the l's and the l's and the b's and the g's and whatnot he's making all that jokes about

00:45:54.680 all these things you know what i'm talking about yeah great bit yeah super good bit and then do

00:45:59.040 you remember when he dives into the story about his trans friend yeah that shit was boring that

00:46:04.660 i think that was his worst special and i think he was just him trying to say a good a positive

00:46:10.460 thing about trans people to get him off his back because he saw that they're storming his

00:46:14.060 spell like they're showing up with ak-47s these trans people he bro he needs to shut the fuck up

00:46:19.220 about trans people i'm so tired of hearing his jokes about that i thought that that was like a

00:46:22.560 little pandering like hey look everybody i have a trans friend that's what i thought the bit was

00:46:26.880 i thought that that was his weakest special so far yeah really i wonder if you're pulling a

00:46:32.680 Hassan on that. Cause I feel like that bit was like one of his best things where he like took

00:46:36.720 you on a joke. He made fun of all these things that are kind of true about these groups. And

00:46:40.100 then he talked about his friend and like her experience as a comedian, as a trans woman

00:46:45.180 comedian. And he cracked jokes in the middle of it as well. But by the end you had like this,

00:46:50.020 this resonance of like her story matters as well. Um, if even just a little bit. And I thought it

00:46:56.180 was brilliant because it was funny throughout, but also like did exactly what I think like the

00:47:02.400 best art does which is like it just shined a spotlight on like some of the ugliest parts of

00:47:06.640 like human experience and like made us resonate with it and made us like comfortable to stay there

00:47:11.700 as well but i may be i guess you just thought it was boring i'm so tired of him talking about

00:47:15.680 trans people i'm like three specials in a row trans trans okay we get it we get it that's fair

00:47:21.780 i'm just talking about the first one where he just talks about the the dive in with i think

00:47:25.420 her name is daphne yeah definitely that was not the most recent i thought that was the third one

00:47:28.980 the third special about trans people possibly i've probably only seen that one though okay i mean i

00:47:36.560 guess i'll listen to it again but yeah that's it i thought that that was his weakest one but i don't

00:47:41.320 think that's pulling a lasagne i think that's just a difference in taste i just like i'm like okay

00:47:45.400 i think i've heard i've heard better chavelle spit uh specials that's fair um tell me about

00:47:52.440 your siblings if you're willing uh what you want to know how many do you have i have two siblings

00:47:58.720 a younger brother and an older sister their older sister okay which one are you closer to

00:48:05.600 um my brother because we're both boys yeah he's 18 months apart 18 months apart and we

00:48:12.480 good catch we shared a bunk bed for most of our childhood and we should oh nice of our childhood

00:48:17.040 yeah um i think i was mostly top bunk but thinking back that's worse i actually know he was because

00:48:22.640 he'd wake up and then slam his head against the ceiling so we were yeah we were really we still

00:48:27.600 are really close and i wanted to bring him on uh as a business partner he designs my merch line

00:48:32.720 two quality clothing cool he's in college my sister is two years older than me and we're close

00:48:39.520 but where just obviously you have less to relate to than two brothers right okay he does your merch

00:48:46.320 is he an artist then as well yeah okay is your sister also artistic she's an actress really yeah

00:48:54.720 it's a super artistic family yeah is your mom artistic yeah she's a really she's really good

00:49:01.280 at drawing recently she sent me this like comic book of childhood events where she's drawing

00:49:06.640 moments like my like my first time going to the barber my first time like i had uh i had like my

00:49:13.600 maybe we should talk about this stuff um or yeah just just like going to the doctor's office and

00:49:18.640 stuff like that she's drawing comics and like writing captions of it it looks like a calvin

00:49:22.400 and hobbs book of my childhood and that was great i didn't know she made that she's very very yeah

00:49:28.480 whole family full of artists that's super cool that's amazing that is a very unique childhood

00:49:34.800 i don't know many people who've had like their entire family be artists uh and it seems like

00:49:40.000 your whole family gets along like you guys have for the most part pretty good relationships

00:49:44.240 yeah we we argue a lot we argue a lot but yeah it's good that's good yeah is it good

00:49:51.600 or was it no it's good it's good it's good okay interesting um so your brother's designing in

00:49:59.120 merch he's in college what is he doing in college business average just stuff he's just in college

00:50:05.080 basically how do you feel about that it's all about yeah he's a bot and he got boosted i'm like

00:50:11.560 come on man and you call me stupid like well i'm gonna talk about it yeah uh anyway he's in college

00:50:17.080 and he should not be but you know you want to people want a backup plan people want to be part

00:50:22.620 of the matrix a little bit do you have a backup plan no i don't need one i'm i'm a skilled editor

00:50:30.660 i'm a skilled filmer i know how to make money online i i'm good i don't you don't need to have

00:50:35.040 a backup plan like if as long as you're you're valuable you have skills you can make money

00:50:39.160 online easily one thing that i find really interesting i don't know if you've ever thought

00:50:44.600 about this a lot of like in the red pill circle especially so one thing i've noticed is have you

00:50:49.580 ever noticed that red pillars also blend a fair bit with like alt writers yeah one thing that i've

00:50:56.120 noticed is the way that they would characterize a guy like you typically would be like kind of

00:51:02.200 soy and effeminate you're super artistic you like care about feelings you come from a highly

00:51:07.080 artistic family and you're mostly concerned with like communicating art and like seeking truth

00:51:12.220 uh through funny essentially have you ever thought about the fact that a lot of these people would

00:51:16.120 call you like soy or like like any sort of like kind of dismissive word um in your world yay yeah

00:51:23.300 um a pussy i don't think they would i think a lot of people in that world like art i i think

00:51:32.140 maybe you're just seeing the surface level the the front of the red pill the loud stuff that

00:51:37.040 gets blasted on social media but i think if you peel back the layers of a lot of these guys they'll

00:51:41.280 they'll probably agree with a lot of the stuff and think that a lot of the stuff is i don't think

00:51:44.840 they would call it no i don't i don't think so i don't think people call me gay for being artistic

00:51:48.360 yeah i i would agree i just find it really interesting because when you hear people

00:51:52.860 in this kind of area talk about things they would refer to being like super artistic or like in

00:51:58.940 touch with your feelings and stuff as being really like gay um and yet i don't think any person would

00:52:03.820 look at you and like describe you in that way you think it's just a cope on their part i don't think

00:52:09.940 those are red pill all writers i think those are just like dumb guys in the locker room

00:52:14.460 that's good i don't i wouldn't equate that to being a red pillar i think i think you're using

00:52:19.760 the stereotypical idea of like a a meathead dude but that's not i don't think that that's the right

00:52:26.300 way to categorize all right and red pill okay that's fair how would you categorize all right

00:52:31.420 and red pill it's an ideology but yeah i think it could be diverse i think the all right is

00:52:38.360 way more diverse than like socialists in america

00:52:41.000 hence once you get into the socialist land there's a there's a lot going on there but diverse i guess

00:52:49.220 in what way do you mean like like demographic wise like like culture and and age all right i

00:52:57.880 don't know that much about it you know it's probably a lot of it's very white that's true

00:53:02.240 the people storm in the capital but red pill is is ironically because like the left is against it

00:53:08.420 and the left is always talking about diversity and everything it's ironic that the red pill is

00:53:11.700 more diverse racially than the the blue pill people like when i get when i get on a destiny

00:53:18.000 panel it's like 10 white people and then when you go to like fresh and fit or you go to these red

00:53:22.800 pill conferences like oh this guy's mixed this guy's mexican black guys i'm blasian and we're

00:53:27.760 supposed to be the racist ones on the other side was that like a giant helicopter i have like large

00:53:32.560 large like diesel trucks that drive by all the time okay yeah alberta trucks that's it yeah

00:53:40.260 okay interesting did you cut your head so no it's tied up oh okay

00:53:46.140 did you notice that uh no you shouldn't it looks good tied up like that thanks

00:53:54.580 are we gonna ask yeah did have you noticed that when you were on fresh and fit like having getting

00:54:00.240 and learning about the red pill space that it's actually more diverse than the blue pill oh i

00:54:05.900 think a lot of people on the left don't realize that especially when you're looking at like

00:54:09.680 immigrant populations and people of color they tend to actually be a lot more socially conservative

00:54:13.300 um and so a lot of times yes i've noticed this for i've worked in like homeless shelters and

00:54:18.980 like in a lot of like different spaces and yes i would agree that they tend to be a lot more

00:54:22.600 ethnically diverse um particularly the conservative side of this world kind of ironic right

00:54:30.680 yeah it's ironic did you make a video about that yeah well good idea it's been tough to think about

00:54:37.560 this main channel stuff but yeah i got a big one i got a documentary coming out actually you're

00:54:40.840 going to see me acting if you want to see some artistic stuff this documentary i'm working on

00:54:43.560 my editor is like just panicking right now because it's such a big file but um there's a short film

00:54:47.880 in the beginning i think i really like it i'm acting in there first time that i'm ever posting

00:54:52.200 of me something acting uh what are you acting or do you not want to tease it that's okay it's

00:54:58.100 already been teased a little bit it's just uh if you've seen safety brothers it's basically like

00:55:02.440 um it's just like a proof of concept short film nothing crazy oh my bad elstream

00:55:06.400 just yeah yeah just watch it yeah it's just playing it's not even a fully developed movie

00:55:12.000 it's not fully developed characters but i think you get it's like it's what looks like a trailer

00:55:15.600 for a movie interesting that's cool is uh is it colt who filmed most of it or you've got four

00:55:23.120 filmers right yeah something like that it's my friend uh steezy k and his real name is isaiah

00:55:28.660 shepherd he's another youtuber who wants to quit and go and said film like a deep artist dude who

00:55:33.200 got caught up in social media like you yeah i guess you're making it sound gay but yeah why

00:55:40.800 Why am I making it sound gay?

00:55:42.260 No, I'm just playing.

00:55:44.220 Are you?

00:55:45.160 Or do you feel like I'm making it sound a little gay?

00:55:48.000 No, I'm just playing.

00:55:48.840 I'm trying to be like, because sometimes, you're right.

00:55:52.000 Sometimes I got to be like, I'm Red Pill.

00:55:53.400 I'm thinking about like all the dudes watching like, yeah, that's gay.

00:55:55.580 Like you got to, it's good.

00:55:57.880 Isn't that tricky though?

00:55:58.860 You don't want to BS and you don't want to, you don't want to like have to like, like

00:56:02.820 optics.

00:56:03.940 And now for your own audience.

00:56:06.100 See, I was honest about it.

00:56:07.000 That's true.

00:56:07.920 Yeah.

00:56:08.680 I'll always try to be honest about it.

00:56:10.620 yeah that's true but it is interesting right like you you're tired of the bs

00:56:14.600 and like the optics and now you're kind of playing for a bit of a different optics with

00:56:19.240 the streaming which is why i encourage you to turn off your chat because it's

00:56:21.940 so hard not to when like you see chat rolling by and you see like some person being like

00:56:25.940 fucking idiot and like screaming at you and whatnot

00:56:28.060 yeah there's a lot of them i read the chat the entire stream i haven't been reading it this one

00:56:34.180 wonder what they're saying they're probably spamming l

00:56:35.700 no no it's good are you how do you feel about your relationship with chat because it seems

00:56:43.320 like there's a tension there right it's good though it keeps it like jadeon came on yesterday

00:56:48.700 like you have a toxic chat which i hate that word toxic especially coming from another man

00:56:52.260 but i think it's good it's like it reminds me of uh my closest friends back in uh in middle school

00:56:58.880 was this jewish guy and this black guy and we would just make the worst jokes about each other

00:57:03.420 like calling the black guy a slave they called me um an opium smoker that i need to build the

00:57:08.600 railroads we'd make fun of the jewish guy for his dead ancestors who were burned alive it was just

00:57:12.800 like really toxic jokes but we go back and forth and now my chat everything reminds me of that it's

00:57:17.600 very violent people are like calling cuck you're gay i hate you women are bad like it's just like

00:57:23.400 loud and everything it's wild it can make a lot of people go crazy for real if they're not able

00:57:27.940 to handle it but i think it's in a weird way it's maybe mentally stronger the fact that like

00:57:32.300 all these times i hear all these thousands of people trying to like get into my head like

00:57:36.160 cry right now you look like you're crying you better like people bullying you to that level

00:57:40.880 bully makes you stronger because if you can handle it then it doesn't really affect you the next time

00:57:45.780 you hear it and i've been bro it's so many exposed videos the toxic like the by aggressive chat it's

00:57:52.080 good i think it builds character yeah that is uh opium smoker that is that's some private school

00:57:58.380 racism going on there yeah that's wild yeah but what about the people who can't handle it because

00:58:07.020 you can how do you how do you handle it because i balance out real life and online life so a lot

00:58:12.680 of these people who end up just lying all day and embodying cancel culture they don't go outside

00:58:16.700 they just sit in front of their screen for 10 hours all day this is dumb this is dumb i'm telling

00:58:21.760 people to go i stream for like three to five hours i usually i like going to the club i take time

00:58:26.780 off like in the beginning i stream in season so i stream for a month and then take a month off i

00:58:30.280 travel i go out i try to do what i'm going to try to do in the future is stream for a month and then

00:58:34.600 do deep artist main channel videos for a month and go back and forth like that make my bread then be

00:58:38.700 able to travel see the world have real life experience to talk about read books that my mom

00:58:42.160 gave me and then have actual experience to talk about and not just twitter opinions i think going

00:58:49.360 outside helps and also i realize i think i have a good analysis of a lot of people and maybe maybe

00:58:55.720 that the empathy helps understanding why people are angry or understanding the haters or reading

00:59:00.140 stuff in the comment section these essays it's like yeah this guy's saying extremely hurtful

00:59:03.720 stuff about me but why he's probably upset with his life you know i try to peel back the layers

00:59:08.960 instead of engaging with them it's like okay you have to analyze why someone's saying that and i

00:59:14.560 think that's a level of empathy that maybe a lot of people don't have when it comes to online stuff

00:59:18.140 but i've been doing it for so long i've grown up on youtube i've been telling me i've been doing

00:59:20.540 least i was fucking 13. right i know you're kind of tough into it yeah you're kind of used to it

00:59:26.220 yeah it's interesting because you talk about the lefties and stuff that are chronically online but

00:59:29.940 i would say there's a lot of like incelty type guys that are also chronically online as well

00:59:35.500 yeah for sure yeah that's why i'm telling them to go outside too and it's on both sides if you're

00:59:40.240 chronically online you end up weird and like just yelling all this crazy stuff and weird parts of

00:59:45.060 the internet i tell people constantly to go outside yeah yeah i think i think that's one

00:59:51.640 thing even though i disagree with you on a lot of things that you like uh talk about uh specifically

00:59:56.940 like your open one-sided open relationship stuff um one thing i really appreciate about you

01:00:05.260 you remind me so i used to me and my husband met at an at-risk youth camp we worked with um

01:00:10.840 kids that were from like pretty rough backgrounds and i had one kid um who is so much like you you

01:00:19.120 guys are identical like so similar he actually came from a very affluent family um but like

01:00:24.380 in his case his parents were super super like unavailable kind of emotionally neglectful

01:00:29.680 um and he was very he was a shit disturber like you like if there's a hornet's nest he's gonna

01:00:34.500 kick it you know if i tell him don't climb we're at a horse camp right so if i said don't climb

01:00:40.220 the petting zoo barn first he's on top of the yeah he's on top of it right if i say hey the

01:00:44.720 hammock will break if there's more than four of you on it he's wrangling up six more kids to jump

01:00:49.700 on top of the hammock um just an absolute shit disturber but i could be wrong about my assessment

01:00:56.220 about you he's also a kid who like kind of puts on a bit he likes having fun and there's nothing

01:01:02.460 wrong with that and he likes just being human but he cares a lot about people like he really

01:01:07.620 doesn't want to harm people. Here's a lot about animals. Um, and I could never get this kid to

01:01:13.720 like, listen to any level of like wisdom or like, Hey, dial it back until one day it was the

01:01:20.700 strangest thing that was the breakthrough. Cause I worked with this kid for like eight years. Um,

01:01:25.780 he was riding a horse. I was older and he kept running her because it's fun to run on horses,

01:01:30.540 right? Cause they're fast. So he was just galloping and loping her everywhere we went.

01:01:34.840 and i was like she's old you have to stop you're going to hurt her because we were riding on like

01:01:40.520 sand areas and um there's lots of like big rocks you have to be careful when you're riding through

01:01:45.080 it because they can step on it and like bruise their hoof and stuff like that so he was just

01:01:49.020 never listening of course if i said don't run your horse what is he gonna do it's gonna run

01:01:52.900 this horse everywhere um and then we finished riding one day and he gets off his horse and

01:01:58.020 he's leading her around and she's limping really badly and so i like look over and i was like dude

01:02:02.960 your horse is limping and he was like yeah i don't i don't know what happened and so i go over

01:02:08.780 and i help him out check and sure enough she's got like a massive kind of big bruise on her hoof

01:02:13.320 um and it turned into an abscess later because if they bruise it the blood can pool and it can

01:02:17.560 kind of get infected um yeah so she hurt really bad couldn't put weight on it for a while and

01:02:24.120 it was like something swapped in him um where he was like holy shit like sometimes my actions

01:02:32.020 have consequences. And I need to be careful of that. And he spent the next like week, just,

01:02:37.160 he didn't even ride. I was like, you can ride a different horse. Just like, don't run it this

01:02:40.680 time. And he was like, Nope. And he like stayed all week on the ground, just taking care of this

01:02:44.820 horse every day, hosing her foot out. I taught him how to like put on this little band that like

01:02:49.300 protects her hoof and, you know, sucks out all the infection and stuff like that. Um, this kid

01:02:55.160 went on to, um, I struggled with addiction for a long time. Uh, he went on to recover from

01:03:01.120 addiction and he's now a youth worker um he works with kids just like him shit little shit disturbers

01:03:07.080 um who in his in his world didn't have a good dad because he didn't have a good dad at all

01:03:12.020 um and you remind me a lot of him and like one of the things that i like valued so much about this

01:03:16.620 kiddo was for all of the like wild fun that he had which he is fun and that's great like fun and play

01:03:22.280 matter actually a lot like it's so undersold how much like comedy and fun and play but it matters

01:03:27.320 a lot but at like the core of him he like really cared about people um and i could be wrong but i

01:03:33.000 suspect that that's true about you as well yeah red pill with a heart of gold red pill with a

01:03:41.480 heart of gold mostly when i hear you talk about your girlfriend that was kind of what like and

01:03:45.220 how you interacted with her yeah but they don't see that so i just get the incel allegations

01:03:51.460 yeah i think you love maria a lot

01:03:57.180 it can be tough though it can be tough though but you know relationships are very tough very very

01:04:04.800 tough yeah

01:04:05.960 that's a good analysis how's that how uh how old is he how old is the kid now yeah i think he's

01:04:18.840 i think he's 24 i gotta think i was only four years older than him i was his camp counselor

01:04:24.220 but like i was like 19 and he was 13 so he's finished the story and then he started his

01:04:29.400 twitch channel and named it hasanavi and i wish could you imagine no no he's still doing youth

01:04:36.320 work uh he's a godfather his best friend kind of fucked up and had a kid um wasn't using

01:04:43.100 protection and his best friend decided to stick around which is super cool so he's helping his

01:04:48.000 best friend uh raise his kid with his girlfriend the godparent parent situation going on uh he's

01:04:56.600 just kind of there to support like he's kind of like brothers with this guy so he's more like the

01:04:59.940 uncle what advice do you have for me are you a therapist you taught this felt like a therapy

01:05:08.840 session this felt like it felt like i got in trouble mr girl on me it wasn't meant to be a

01:05:14.320 therapy session i know but yeah i'm low-key but it reminded me of when um i got in trouble or i

01:05:20.620 got detention and then the english teacher called me into her office and then i had to sit down and

01:05:23.860 then i get mad for a while and then she would try to break down and then talk about my childhood

01:05:27.260 stuff that women like to like break down and then try to find like the little boy inside this

01:05:32.480 aggressive thing and well that's humanizing that's human that's the part that they don't see

01:05:36.420 which is good but i'm wondering how i'm not trying to fix you if you're wondering no i don't think

01:05:41.480 are i don't think you are i think you're appealing but you're finding the interest that women have

01:05:45.960 when it comes to like how what are like every time i i talk to a girl they're always like um

01:05:51.000 just trying to see where the cracks are try to test the masculinity see where they could like

01:05:55.640 but what about the empathy you know this is what that was but it's good it's good to have

01:06:00.280 these conversations too because you're more complex than just like what we see on screen

01:06:06.440 um and i wanted i i assumed you were i was a little worried i was a little i was like i'm

01:06:11.960 pretty sure i'm right but damn this interview is gonna suck if he's like not actually like

01:06:15.800 if you were puddle deep this interview would have been and i've been like um so yeah

01:06:22.920 chat's wondering about boarding school can you tell us more about that that was the war that

01:06:29.240 was jail that was literally jail i went to it was 120 people it was the wokest school of all time

01:06:35.720 they brought in therapy dogs when trump won and i voted for trump that was the first president i

01:06:39.940 voted for i was i was just turned 18 i wore a maga shirt in to trigger them because i'm mixing like

01:06:44.560 it was all these woke white people who didn't know how to say anything about it i was just fed up

01:06:47.800 with that they had safe spaces on every single door you couldn't go that's serious i'm dead

01:06:52.460 serious and then it turns out a lot of those safe space teachers the allegations came out that they

01:06:56.340 were fucking the students so this is like it's always it always happens like that like oh come

01:07:02.180 here be safe this is a good place for lgbt suck my dick and then it's just it's so crazy that's

01:07:08.440 what happened um you couldn't leave but i i hated that so much i've got ratted on by all these

01:07:14.540 people for like sneak into the girls dorms um other girls will like follow and watch and then

01:07:18.680 tell on me all my friends got expelled for stealing and like a lot of the kids were from

01:07:23.580 harlem and from the hood and from all over the east coast hoods and stuff like that they get in

01:07:27.020 trouble for like bro like some of my closest friends like so it was it was so funny because

01:07:31.200 it's kind of like new haven it was either i i lived in a triple with these it was a kid from

01:07:34.560 new war no kid from trenton a kid from harlem and at this in the same dorm there'd be like chinese

01:07:39.200 billionaires send their kids to boarding school in america so in the same dorm like literally kids

01:07:43.800 from like 134th street and then chinese millionaires so they were stealing they stole all

01:07:49.460 they stole so much money all these clothes designer shit and they were sending it home

01:07:53.460 uh like all these kids from like treatment programs with anxiety depression drug addict kids

01:07:58.660 and their parents sent it to boarding school it was just this weird mix there's only 120 people

01:08:02.520 i hated it that's a weird school that is a weird collection of people everyone thinks that boarding

01:08:08.460 school is like zoe 101 this was like jail for rich people and in the middle of nowhere woke

01:08:13.700 with jail why'd you get sent there because i i grew up in new haven and the schools are really

01:08:19.000 bad and i got a scholarship at this school and my mom wanted to send me to a private school because

01:08:23.480 you know saying like asians trying to fit in with the whites and like that's what everyone was doing

01:08:26.180 to my school i got rejected from all the good schools and i got into this like treatment

01:08:29.480 half treatment school so and i got a scholarship too so you didn't cheat your way into the good

01:08:34.460 school what the heck i cheated they still didn't want me man damn i guess you didn't cheat well

01:08:39.000 enough also i got suspended for for bullying a kid and i think that was on my record it didn't

01:08:43.480 it didn't work out yeah suspended for bullying a kid cyber bullying doesn't even count how does

01:08:49.560 it not count because it would think bro we were just roasting in a group chat and like one kid

01:08:53.760 wasn't in the group chat he got mad and printed all out the pictures of all the terrible jokes

01:08:58.560 we were making about the president's daughter and stuff like that no about the the principal's

01:09:03.200 daughter the principal's family you know what i'm saying it's just anyway yeah it's tough being an

01:09:08.480 edgy child yes it is tough being an edgy child that's i was on 4chan back in like at 13 and 12

01:09:13.600 that really developed a lot of my sense of humor i was reading 4chan or slash b anyone 4chan in the

01:09:17.440 chat i was on poll back in the day uh slash ints i was reading all these like terrible watching

01:09:22.800 murder on a regular basis like fraud what does your dad think about all that they don't know

01:09:28.380 about that they don't know about that but i remember getting caught looking at 4chan in

01:09:32.220 school like because they were monitoring the computers and i'm looking at like 4chan they

01:09:35.160 see this stuff go like are you okay what does my dad know about that no they don't really know

01:09:40.300 about that stuff what do you think about it what did he think about you getting uh suspended for

01:09:45.960 bullying they were really upset at the time but then i lectured them since then they realized

01:09:50.440 that they were like bro that wasn't even that bad they were really pissed off at me at first

01:09:53.500 because like they felt like i let down the family and everything i guess expended for three days

01:09:57.080 but big oh come on a little bit of cyber bullying bro come on man like kids are guy you're getting

01:10:01.280 in fights dealing robbing getting bitches pregnant what did i do cyber bully i'm fine i'm not fucking

01:10:07.240 it's not the end of the world but at the time they really thought that like i failed like you

01:10:10.960 dishonor your family that's what the attitude was your dad was mad but now he's chill about it

01:10:17.160 yeah they're like yeah it wasn't that big a deal interesting but yeah boarding school sucks oh yeah

01:10:23.060 it sucks you dropped out of boarding school no i graduated okay really yeah i made it all my

01:10:31.760 friends got expelled all my friends got transferred like dead ass serious they all got expelled but i

01:10:36.340 made it but you made it you didn't steal too many chinese exchange student clothing no and i only

01:10:43.800 got one dean's i didn't even get that close to being expelled i never got caught for smoking

01:10:47.420 weed a lot of them got like expelled for just smoking weed just yeah so where do you want

01:10:53.980 to go in the future you want to work on your art more yes you asked for advice do you actually

01:10:59.960 like what do you feel like it seems like you go to steven for advice a lot actually

01:11:03.660 i go to steven for streaming advice i don't even like saying his name he's destiny even

01:11:10.660 know it's a girl's name uh but i like to he's been he's like one of the og streamers he's been

01:11:15.100 doing to it he said he was like the first streamer to do it professionally so he knows a lot about

01:11:18.720 chat and stuff like that and getting canceled or getting deleted so i'd like to to talk to him

01:11:23.760 about stuff like that and yeah i think he's smarter than me i think destiny and nick fuentes

01:11:27.900 are like autistic level smart so i like to talk to those guys because especially when we went out

01:11:31.820 to dinner um even my girl said that afterwards like you guys like the streamers you guys talk

01:11:37.300 so fast all the time it's like but it's and like whatever there's bullshit you call it out

01:11:40.460 immediately everyone's going fast it's like you're talking to a chat all the time i like those fast

01:11:43.920 paced high level conversations and then when you talk to normies and bots again it's like

01:11:47.180 it's so boring so you guys talking memes and everything going back and forth i like that

01:11:52.740 it's way more fun so i'd like to talk to to him about streaming advice and also i like to talk

01:11:59.320 to somebody that that disagrees with me about pretty much everything because you get a different

01:12:02.140 perspective it's not just everybody like i talked to myron from fresh and fit about stuff i talked

01:12:06.980 to it just I like talking to people older than me who know more who are like objectively smarter than

01:12:10.960 me okay have you ever thought about getting into like politics debating type stuff then because

01:12:15.900 that's kind of like destiny's muse we've done that and the first one's like oh yeah a lot of

01:12:20.940 everyone in the chat was saying I sounded dumb because I wouldn't he he was like he's like I'm

01:12:25.160 a debater and I was just like I'm just trying to entertain so I'm like I'm going back and forth

01:12:28.800 I'm yelling I'm asking questions I didn't I wasn't prepared for it as a debate the second one my chat

01:12:33.320 said i took the w but i know a lot of people probably not gonna say that i'm saying jack

01:12:36.600 and i took the w to the second debate but we tried it that guy is a better debater so it's

01:12:41.800 gonna be hard but yo him and him and nick fuentes going back and forth is like top tier content

01:12:46.060 oh my god can be like i want to get more autistic like them i want to be i want i want that you

01:12:53.600 want to be a nerd i want to be no not a nerd i want to be autistic but they're for sure nerds

01:12:59.000 like that's part of it is like they just read articles for funsies and i do have to play dnd

01:13:08.280 yes to do politics you must play it no but you do have to read which is boring i'll be reading

01:13:15.240 see look i had a book in my pocket how many streams have a book did you read it tell me

01:13:18.920 one fucking i just got it from that book i just that's why it was in my pocket what's the last

01:13:24.120 book you read or article the sun also rises by ernest hemingway i like fiction i like okay which

01:13:30.760 is also like hemingway is like half fiction half real because it's based in truth it just has like

01:13:34.120 different character names last article i read was don't remember i don't remember articles

01:13:41.960 suck it's all clickbait now what about like empirical articles have you ever read any of those

01:13:48.360 give me an example of one like an empirical article uh i could just send you one you just

01:13:53.400 google scholar it so like anything that would be like peer-reviewed scientific uh articles yeah

01:13:59.480 see right now i'm thinking about the fact that people are gonna call me dumb when i say that

01:14:02.360 i haven't read one in a while and so i was thinking about a way to lie most people haven't read one

01:14:06.840 to be honest and most people who read them don't understand them very well because they're kind of

01:14:11.800 they're a little bit esoteric to read because we need a lot of like numbers like r equals

01:14:15.640 blah blah blah if you don't know what that means send me some i want to stop being bought and that

01:14:19.240 was bought of me to not have read those so i'm gonna i'm gonna get better than that see look

01:14:22.680 I'm trying to grow. I'm trying to become better.

01:14:24.640 That was very normal of me to not have.

01:14:26.620 Yeah, that's good.

01:14:28.660 Have you ever heard of the book The Moon is a

01:14:30.800 Hearse Mistress? If you like

01:14:32.780 fiction. No.

01:14:35.380 You might like it. Do you like

01:14:36.420 sci-fi at all?

01:14:40.560 Yeah.

01:14:41.800 It's by Robert Heinlein, I think is how you'd

01:14:44.700 pronounce it. There's a really

01:14:46.740 good quote in there that I feel

01:14:48.740 like, I don't know

01:14:50.700 if you'll like it, but I feel like

01:14:52.320 it could improve your life a lot Robert Heinlein Robert Heinlein the root the

01:14:57.040 moon is a harsh mistress he wrote uh he wrote Starship Troopers

01:15:04.720 okay this sounds really autistic I'll check this out hey if you're wanting to

01:15:08.880 get a little bit autistic it's a fiction form of it so you might enjoy it more

01:15:13.520 there's a there's a line in the book that says question tradition but distrust

01:15:18.280 the obvious

01:15:22.320 i feel like you'll like it once you read it and understand the quote discuss the libertarian ideals

01:15:29.280 uh yeah i think so i will read that good recommendation a good book

01:15:37.920 i will read that i will get smarter i think this is a good place to to wrap i'm getting uh tired

01:15:45.260 now and i'm feeling dumb for not reading the empirical articles i'm gonna go read some and

01:15:48.540 you're not dumb for not reading them most most people don't is there all right to end it off is

01:15:53.660 there anything that i haven't asked you if there is there anything that i haven't asked you that

01:15:58.220 i should have uh no i think you got all the questions that you see this is good for a woman

01:16:05.820 to to have this interview a man would not ask any of the questions that you asked

01:16:10.620 fair enough not one of those which makes this a unique interview did you enjoy it i did i did

01:16:17.740 actually can you send me the vod because i want to post it on my channel absolutely if you go to

01:16:21.260 my twitch you can actually just always download it from there i don't have you don't because it's

01:16:27.160 large uh i don't record it but it i stream it to youtube and it so it saves there and it saves on

01:16:33.260 my twitch but i i can send you the link of how to download it from twitch because that'll be

01:16:37.220 the highest quality all right cool do that thank you thank you erudite thank you erudite chat i

01:16:42.640 want to check in now do they hate me i don't know i haven't checked

01:16:46.040 what do you guys think do you hate sneaker oh they're calling me dumb for not reading it

01:16:52.380 shut up chat i'm gonna go read those articles now

01:16:55.440 starship trooper is the manliest of books somebody said so there you go yeah the man stuff's cool

01:17:03.400 right there you go win you're getting lots of w's thanks chat bye go read empirical articles

01:17:12.020 become more artistic talk to nick fuentes and

01:17:15.540 empathy is cool empathy is cool empathy rocks you should make that merch

01:17:23.380 yeah i don't know i don't think that'll trend very well i want more meme-y stuff

01:17:29.520 for for my merch that's pretty meme-y chat do you think that's good merch empathy rocks

01:17:33.740 we'll make it if we make it and you actually look at the shirt and think i would wear this

01:17:41.780 then maybe but

01:17:42.720 I wouldn't wear that

01:17:45.600 yeah I didn't think so I wouldn't either

01:17:47.860 in fairness so

01:17:48.960 thanks for having me on

01:17:51.060 thanks for coming on

SNEAKO - September 12, 2022

SNEAKO Gets THERAPY from a Woke FEMINIST…

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