SNEAKO - SNEAKO Hosts Intense Debate With Ryan Dawson & Nick Fuentes!

00:00:00.000 you know now you see these trannies they're arming up in like texas they're all gun nuts so you got 1.00

00:00:05.360 trannies with the guns at the protest and then you got nazis with the guns at the protest and 0.97

00:00:10.880 one is saying well we're gonna fight to let our kids go to the drag show and be trans and the

00:00:15.280 other side is saying we're gonna fight to prevent our kids from going there now you know would you

00:00:20.080 say that that's something that would be and again not talking about like a civil war let's go out

00:00:23.840 see the thing is that can be resolved the truth in the matter that can be resolved because there

00:00:30.240 really is only two genders you can't really get that the who's right between one religious group

00:00:35.400 and another because it's both based on faith and imagination isn't it though all right if he's back

00:00:42.620 i'm leaving oh come on no no no right on time right on time he's gonna go lie and say that

00:00:51.740 kicked him when's the last time that you guys spoke i'm actually really excited about this

00:00:55.020 panel over here uh well we got banned or what i got banned from youtube and he got kicked off

00:01:00.440 youtube i had him on yeah that was the last time you guys spoke yeah last time we spoke on a stream

00:01:06.060 yeah yeah we spoke a lot about your ideas uh in japan nick and ryan i would say ryan respects

00:01:14.760 everything you talk about but he thinks that there's a little there's too much anger with

00:01:20.340 your with your messaging and i would say and that's not even just a sentiment that i've heard

00:01:24.040 from ryan i've heard from a lot of other people that i respect that you have the right ideas but

00:01:28.700 and i defend you i say that it's because you've been canceled so much and because you've been

00:01:32.560 the platform and people always attack you that that's instilled a lot of anger but i think your

00:01:36.720 your messaging can be directed to more people if you separate yourself from that anger i'm not

00:01:45.140 I think it's his anger.

00:01:46.240 I think it's his followers giving bad optics.

00:01:49.120 Oh, boy. 0.86

00:01:49.680 Like, sometimes you got to just take garbage and throw it away.

00:01:51.820 Do you think he's an angry guy?

00:01:54.160 Not at all.

00:01:54.820 Nick?

00:01:55.340 He can be.

00:01:56.320 I'm like, I've never really seen him super angry.

00:01:59.880 Nico has.

00:02:00.860 Oh, you have?

00:02:01.900 Maybe you are.

00:02:02.520 I mean, I've seen him throwing ketchup at people and stuff, but, you know, I'm sure he earned it.

00:02:07.960 Ketchup was thrown at me.

00:02:10.980 Oh, was it the shake you threw?

00:02:12.520 And then he threw the spread back.

00:02:14.200 I retaliated, yeah.

00:02:15.140 forgot about i saw that clip of you like fighting dude or something oh yeah oh you hit somebody

00:02:25.460 okay i guess he can be angry sometimes but i feel like most from the streams i've seen with nick he's

00:02:31.060 always smiling and trying to be charming and stuff but his some of his uh his groyper army or whatever

00:02:36.740 just completely toxic oh my gosh it's like the in-group is so tight that when someone else wants

00:02:42.100 us to join they all gang up on them because you're not exactly like us get out of the group get out

00:02:46.300 of the group that's what i've seen yeah and they also yeah your fans are a bit toxic on twitter

00:02:53.120 they are it's not like the blue pill community your fans are toxic

00:02:58.540 your fans are dude they're like angry you gotta redirect those vibes somewhere else nico 0.52

00:03:06.620 our country's taken over by Jews and you're like not mad okay but what does the world's an angry 1.00

00:03:13.240 place how is that the proper solution okay Ryan here's a better question how do you think that

00:03:18.920 Nick Nick is 24 years old how can Nick become the eventual president so many things that have to

00:03:28.900 change before he be accepted what is the biggest change he has to make because right now people

00:03:33.140 who've never talked to nick don't know nick they just gonna their quick like assessment of him is

00:03:39.640 on his optics which is just like oh he's a holocaust denier and a racist and all these

00:03:43.580 things that are like the epitome of evil in our society and he's smiling and so we're gonna get

00:03:48.060 popular well you know he maybe he is those things but um they see that as just the darkest a person

00:03:56.880 can be whereas it doesn't bother me at all like um if someone's racist it's something i disagree

00:04:04.180 with but like i'm much more concerned about are they anti-war are they concerned about uh you know

00:04:10.400 a whole litany of policies with the country so i'll talk i can talk to someone like david duke

00:04:14.880 he's a christian guy he's against all these wars he's against the sanctions that starved rocky

00:04:20.020 children like that's the moral position it's just the one thing about race right but in our society 0.60

00:04:25.860 they treat someone if someone's racist that's like being a rapist right and to me it's just not

00:04:31.120 that big a deal it's something like we can like anything we could disagree with on taxes or

00:04:36.640 whatever like oh you think you believe in racial teleology i don't you know i'm more the thomas

00:04:41.180 soul camp whatever should be allowed to have a discussion about it the problem is those

00:04:45.800 discussions never happen because the people being laced being labeled racist and the people who

00:04:51.220 actually are racist neither one get to speak and so when that dialogue never happens there's no

00:04:58.720 resolution but i think what they've done is they've weaponized wokeness to get rid of political

00:05:03.940 dissent i don't think they really care what nick's views on race are they care about his

00:05:08.520 america first and conservative views and they're using the race thing as an excuse to shut them up 0.57

00:05:13.460 and you're handing it to them by doing that

00:05:16.560 disagree i think the race thing is totally central to the conversation because they go

00:05:24.800 after people specifically who are pro-white like explicitly specifically in terms of censorship

00:05:30.800 in 2018 they did the first editorial-based censorship on facebook and they said if you're

00:05:36.380 a white separatist if you're a white nationalist you're banned and it's always been this way it's

00:05:42.280 always been that they've stigmatized anybody that's pro-white even guys like tucker carlson

00:05:46.260 You could say that Tucker Carlson is, as you say, anti-war, America first, populist, and he's certainly in the Thomas Sowell camp. He talks about colorblind, meritocracy. But he draws a line and says, well, I won't support a white identity politics. He says, I won't support that. 0.56

00:06:03.200 And Tucker Carlson, although he got fired at Fox News, which is Rupert Murdoch, and that's Jewish affiliated, Tucker Carlson is able now to go on Twitter. Rumble's making him an offer. Everybody's making him an offer. 0.94

00:06:17.420 So clearly, even within the controlled opposition on the right, with the exception of Fox News, although he was there for years, he is more mainstream and more accepted than me. And what's the difference? The difference is specifically the race issue, but even more so the Jewish issue. And I just feel like those are things that have to be confronted. I feel like those are the most censored. Those are the most taboo because those are the most important and the most central.

00:06:45.040 i think you know it's they ban people that aren't that aren't racist just by being like myself like

00:06:50.540 i've been banned on everything too but you get banned because you're a so-called conspiracy

00:06:55.860 theorist a lot of people would call you anti-semitic even though i know you're not

00:06:59.740 but that's what that's the labels i'm saying they were even if you're not those things they'll use

00:07:04.780 that as a weapon to get rid of you anyway so in your example like tucker won't support white 0.93

00:07:09.800 identitarianism but he doesn't support any kind of identitarianism i know and he's not an

00:07:14.920 identitarian so that's consistent with him and as such he still has a twitter account and he was on

00:07:20.220 fox news for seven years they couldn't even mention my name on fox news but tucker carl i think it's

00:07:24.720 harder to erase tucker carlson because he used to be a total shill like wanted war with iran and

00:07:30.120 you remember like during the whole build up to iraq he was pro iraq war and all that so he built

00:07:34.940 up a presence as a talking head on the media and then one of his sons was in the ron paul movement

00:07:42.540 and he got to talking to him and you saw tucker kind of evolve and he started he even talked about

00:07:48.140 grace great replacement and stuff like that uh you know it stuck his pinky toe in the water you 0.74

00:07:52.720 could say but he's saying that with a lot to lose you know whatever hundred million dollar job or

00:07:57.780 whatever it was like he's bringing the ball as close in line as he can get and they still got

00:08:02.380 rid of him anyway but it appears that that's the point his stance on ukraine or race or any of that

00:08:07.360 it was some woman you can interrupt but i can't interrupt you can interrupt i didn't know why i 1.00

00:08:13.440 want to just jump in and here's the sticking point is he can bring the ball up to the line but what's

00:08:18.220 the line he will talk about great replacement some say but actually doesn't talk about race he says

00:08:25.100 that it's really about voters he says they're they're bringing in democrat voters to bringing

00:08:29.340 in a compliant population. He doesn't say that it's about race. In fact, he says the opposite.

00:08:34.700 He says, great replacement's not about race, but that's, I mean, that's the opposite of what it is.

00:08:39.440 Of course, it's about race. By definition, it's about race. They're replacing whites in white 1.00

00:08:43.560 countries with non-white immigrants from the global South. So when you say he's able to bring 0.94

00:08:47.500 it up to the line because he has a lot to lose, I agree with you, but what's the line? He can do

00:08:51.640 anti-war. He can do America first. He could do populism. He could even criticize the ADL. I know

00:08:58.700 i know you remember what i'm talking about in june i think 22 or 21 was megan kelly i think he 0.91

00:09:04.260 said fuck the adl but yeah then he got canceled well but he kept his show he kept the show for

00:09:11.220 time they were after him and there was an employee that was after him but you're kind of making my 0.99

00:09:16.220 point for me like yeah he didn't talk about race and they still canceled him no i'm saying that

00:09:21.500 he was able to do a show for seven years when you say he was able to dance around the line what was

00:09:27.080 that line well like six of those years he was establishment kind of guy though no no way the

00:09:32.220 last seven years he was totally america first ever since he got on prime time at 17 and replaced bill

00:09:37.780 o'reilly has it been that long yeah i just remember him supporting the rock war and talking about

00:09:42.140 nuking iran and a whole bunch of dumb stuff i don't really watch fox but um i guess maybe i 0.54

00:09:50.040 watched tucker from the covid stuff onward he'd been pretty good he was the only one that really

00:09:55.860 challenged the big pharma too and that it's hard to know exactly what got him canceled because he

00:10:00.720 was saying all the things you can't say they say that uh this media matters piece came out and they

00:10:06.660 say that it's because he said like white men don't fight like that they say it was comments like that

00:10:11.360 that contributed to it and of course new york times did a big hit piece and they cataloged every

00:10:15.860 show where he talked about white identity and so that i mean that gets to the point that insofar as

00:10:21.380 you don't talk about white identity, insofar as you don't talk about Israel, people would consider

00:10:26.400 that like dancing close to the line. Even guys like Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk lately will give

00:10:31.940 some credence to the anti-white thing very infrequently, sporadically. And even then,

00:10:37.840 I think he likes to fan those flames because that's the flavor of the month. I think he could

00:10:41.940 see the way the wind is blowing, not to mix metaphors, but he understands that that's what

00:10:46.240 the public has an appetite for. And so even in like a group turning point, which gets millions

00:10:51.180 of dollars from zionists and jews and i think their whole donor base is zionist jews they can

00:10:57.420 give a little credence to the white stuff but never too much and i was on a call actually

00:11:01.980 recently with tyler boyer who is the head of turning point action which is their c4 c3 it's 1.00

00:11:07.900 one of their groups probably even just i was having now okay bro all right take care um but

00:11:13.700 anyway tyler boiler lawyer from turning point came in and said that in so far as you are against

00:11:18.740 israel they'll fire you from turning point which and you know that that's why you got canceled

00:11:23.100 is because you talk about israel's role in 9 11 and that's my thing it is about zionism and it's

00:11:29.720 about uh jewish supremacy and their own racism and they just call us racist as an excuse sometimes

00:11:36.580 it actually fits the bill and you get censored for being racist but i'm saying if you go after

00:11:41.440 zionists without being racist they'll still cancel you and call you racist anyway i agree i and 0.84

00:11:46.820 they've done that to a lot of leftists. I mean, they even do that on, you know, like Ilhan Omar

00:11:50.540 and Alison Weir and those types. But I think that the Jewish issue, the race issue, those are also

00:11:57.180 major, major red flags that'll get you banned. I mean, I did a show last night or two nights ago

00:12:03.140 talking about James Lindsay and Chris Ruffo. They were the two guys that popularized the CRT

00:12:08.300 critical race theory thing. And I called this out years ago. I said, these guys aren't actually

00:12:13.220 red pill. Like when they talk about critical race theory, what people hear is they're raising a

00:12:19.280 protest against anti-white curriculum in schools. That's what people hear, but that's never what

00:12:24.160 they said. They've always said we're against critical race theory because it's Marxist,

00:12:28.640 because it has a focus on race instead of ideology. And here we are two years later,

00:12:35.560 and you got these guys like James Lindsay, who goes out and says that actually gay civil rights

00:12:40.820 and gay marriage is totally cool. 0.51

00:12:42.980 It's just no trannies. 1.00

00:12:44.720 And, you know, we can't be pro-white. 0.73

00:12:47.960 We can't be, like you said, as Tucker says,

00:12:50.620 we can't be identitarian of any race.

00:12:53.000 And if there are victims of CRT, 0.89

00:12:54.700 it's the black people that feel like 1.00

00:12:56.520 they can't accomplish great things 1.00

00:12:58.660 because the white man's keeping them down. 0.88

00:13:01.040 And so it portrays the fact that a lot of these people

00:13:03.180 like Tucker, Lindsey, Chris Rufo, others,

00:13:06.180 they're allowed to exist in a mainstream space

00:13:09.040 as long as they stay on the other side of the line of white identity, Zionism, anti-Semitism.

00:13:16.120 But those are the big three.

00:13:17.000 So I don't think, in other words, I don't think that racism is a diversion,

00:13:21.500 you know, or so-called racism, white identity.

00:13:24.260 I think that that is just as much a part of it.

00:13:26.500 It's all the things you said, and you could also not, you couldn't challenge them on COVID,

00:13:31.260 and you really can't challenge them on Ukraine either.

00:13:34.640 Those are also landmines.

00:13:35.920 But that again, if you really zoom in on the big pharma and you really look at the government of Ukraine, it's Zionism again. 0.91

00:13:45.820 I mean, that's really anything that opposes their political power.

00:13:49.520 And identitarianism, they are the old school identitarians.

00:13:53.240 Jewish nepotism, I mean, that's what Zionism is. 0.99

00:13:56.140 It's Jewish supremacy. 0.97

00:13:57.000 but it is worth that they like to do is get everyone fighting about these social issues

00:14:04.820 about sex and sexuality and race and trannies and all this stuff it's the old frankfurt school 0.99

00:14:09.480 of division but there's really one of the most protected class if you were to if you were to

00:14:15.320 make a hierarchy of uh who's the most privileged zionism is at the very top above any man you could

00:14:21.500 be a handicapped mixed black race left-handed eskimo you're still gonna have less rights than 1.00

00:14:27.000 a zionist well i agree i mean israel can bomb syria and it's not even in the papers they can 0.99

00:14:32.500 kill palestinians and won't even be reported i i joke always netanyahu get on stage and eat a baby 0.62

00:14:38.480 and they blame the baby that's true well but that's because they're a mafia that controls 0.99

00:14:44.400 the government but i mean so this is where we disagree though is and this is why i called you

00:14:50.600 a liberal, I didn't call you that as a pejorative, but you know, liberals tend to view race, sex

00:14:57.820 issues as like you say, a diversion. And that what we really need is something like a neutral

00:15:03.880 government that allows people to express their religion, sexuality, gender, race, and really

00:15:10.200 just be an umpire. If you say you're from the Thomas Sowell school, that's really sort of tracks

00:15:14.180 with that Chicago school idea that the government's role is to call balls and strikes on contracts

00:15:20.340 and protect people and things like that.

00:15:23.100 But I would disagree fundamentally

00:15:24.660 because I believe that the government

00:15:26.240 has to have a positive moral vision,

00:15:30.200 has to say, I mean,

00:15:31.520 I believe that the only way the law works

00:15:33.960 is if it's a moral law.

00:15:35.260 I think that there are no other laws

00:15:36.820 other than moral laws.

00:15:38.000 And so it depends on what morality,

00:15:40.480 it matters a great deal,

00:15:42.280 what morality the government is governing based on.

00:15:45.460 Yeah, right now, our government is moral?

00:15:48.340 Totally.

00:15:49.300 Well, moral in the sense that they make laws based on their view of morality.

00:15:55.180 Well, their view, but it's anarcho-tyranny because they openly allow theft

00:16:00.720 and they use their foreign policy for murder, starvation, torture.

00:16:05.560 But these are moral.

00:16:07.720 Well, but these are what you're using as moral language.

00:16:12.280 The reason, for example, why they let criminals go free in Chicago

00:16:15.620 ago is because their morality is based on this redistributive justice you know this racial 0.98

00:16:21.400 grievance politics they think it's moral to let criminals go free they think it's moral

00:16:26.200 that this guy neely on the subway is able to do his michael jackson dance and then kill everybody 0.80

00:16:32.180 on the subway you know because he's having a mental health crisis and so that's the point

00:16:36.240 is the government can't be neutral the government oh and i agree with you what the government does

00:16:41.140 is immoral so i'm saying it's not it's not neutral they have their own brand what they

00:16:45.480 think is moral which clearly isn't you know according to us and so i don't want them

00:16:50.620 implementing their morality i'd rather have it balls and strikes if the government is what i

00:16:56.660 consider to be immoral neutral is better than that it's kind of a fantasy to say why don't we

00:17:01.720 just have a benevolent king who agrees with me and implements all the rules i want to have well

00:17:05.980 it's unrealistic. But that's the whole point. Even a government that is calling balls and

00:17:11.580 strikes, that's a moral view of the world. To say that contracts should be honored,

00:17:16.820 that's a moral system. Based on fairness, based on reciprocity, based on respect for property,

00:17:23.740 that's based on a moral view of the world. Even these guys like Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell,

00:17:27.840 their whole ideology is bound up in the idea that economic liberty is a moral imperative.

00:17:32.880 If it's not just something practical, but that a person has a moral right that flows from their right to life, their right to their faculties, to own the fruits of their labor, to have their property protected, this is all moral language.

00:17:45.740 And so I'm saying, you know, that's one view of morality.

00:17:48.780 My view of morality is Christian.

00:17:51.060 So it goes further than just contract law.

00:17:54.020 It does go into sexuality.

00:17:55.460 It does go into gender. 0.93

00:17:56.340 It goes into the family.

00:17:58.300 And so that's where we disagree.

00:17:59.340 And that's why I say, again, not pejoratively, that's more of a liberal view, this idea that what matters is for the government to protect a person's right to express themselves.

00:18:11.180 You know, those ideas like tolerance and all of that, these are not Christian morals. 0.97

00:18:16.980 That's more based on a liberal paradigm.

00:18:19.680 So I want a Christian government that says, no, we're not going to promote. 0.81

00:18:23.160 which which kind of christian because there's plenty of christian churches and stuff that 0.85

00:18:27.080 that cuck over on all the gay marriage and all the rest of it as well you know it's like well 1.00

00:18:32.040 that's your kind of christianity and i think it's more in tune with what the scriptures actually say 0.95

00:18:37.720 but religion is as religion does and so you've gotten you've got endorsements like a lot of the

00:18:43.400 people involved in all this tranny stuff and stuff they're christian wait so right 0.93

00:18:47.480 are christian the population is christian you think the catholic church is has remained the

00:18:52.400 most solid out of all the factions of christianity i don't know enough about eastern orthodox but

00:19:00.240 probably one of those two the protestant sect has been largely taken over by consumerism it seems

00:19:05.900 like nick have you have you looked into the the council of nicaea and what was manipulated in the

00:19:13.180 bible i was learning about that from ryan and then uh the panel got crazy no what was manipulated in

00:19:18.220 the bible well the first first council of nicaea removed a bunch of books from the bible so we

00:19:25.280 didn't get to hear from you didn't get to hear some whole gospels even and it's weird like well

00:19:30.920 why did they decide to remove these particular books and then you know christianity as it was

00:19:37.720 compared to now especially the protestants especially with the schofield version has been

00:19:43.220 subverted well the council of nicaea the task was to evaluate which would be the canonical books of

00:19:50.700 the bible based on their authenticity and so you know if you have a particular argument about which

00:19:56.060 which gospels deserve to be in based on their authenticity i'd be interested but uh you know

00:20:02.840 it seems like you'd include like judah and thomas right like they're they're all in the other books

00:20:07.640 So they don't get to say their own.

00:20:09.880 But are those are do you do you know about their credibility, their authenticity?

00:20:13.760 Are they authentic?

00:20:14.800 I don't think any of them are authentic.

00:20:16.500 So it doesn't matter to me, but I think they're as authentic as the other ones.

00:20:20.040 They definitely.

00:20:23.580 I think if you include them, you end up with a better version of the Bible than what's there now.

00:20:28.260 But I think that kind of that gets to the heart of the matter, because you don't I mean, if you believe that the whole Bible is fake, you're saying, well, you know, the Catholic Church manipulated the Bible.

00:20:37.160 because they're not telling the other side of the story.

00:20:39.100 And it's like, but you don't believe any of it.

00:20:40.960 You don't believe any of the books are authentic.

00:20:44.860 I think they're useful.

00:20:46.200 I just don't add the supernatural stuff to it.

00:20:49.600 Okay, but I don't think they're useful

00:20:51.500 if they're not supernatural.

00:20:53.180 I mean, they might be interesting

00:20:54.440 or they might be, you know,

00:20:56.060 elucidate anthropological information.

00:20:58.440 But the point of the scriptures is to get us to heaven.

00:21:01.620 It is a supernatural basis.

00:21:03.200 So, I mean, that's my problem.

00:21:05.840 A lot of people...

00:21:06.900 Yeah, you have to believe in heaven and all firsts to think that that's what they're doing.

00:21:11.740 Yeah, well, exactly.

00:21:12.940 And, you know, when you come in and say, well, the Bible's been manipulated by the Council of Nicaea,

00:21:18.180 it's like, well, I mean, you think the whole thing's manipulated.

00:21:20.500 You think that, you know, religion is manipulating people, right? 0.99

00:21:25.640 Yeah, because what they did, like the Book of Romans had, yeah, same thing.

00:21:29.880 They've got the divine right of kings, right?

00:21:32.620 whether it's sultan kings whatever that the form of government under christianity is supposed to be

00:21:36.820 a monarchy they live under a republic most christians today are not advocating a return

00:21:41.720 to a monarchy i am though but i am good for you well then that's the thing is you know and this

00:21:51.400 this also gets back to the liberal question there's a really good book by alasdair mcintyre

00:21:56.180 who's he's actually a straussian and i don't like straussians because they're hardcore zionists but 0.59

00:22:00.700 Right. He has a good book about the history of liberalism and his idea about it. And I tend to agree with this is that liberalism is an innovation that comes out of the Middle Ages and specifically the religious wars. It comes out of the 30 years war. It comes out of the English Civil War. It comes out of the beef between Protestants and Catholics.

00:22:20.100 And the innovation is this. If people cannot come to a consensus on things like, what church do we believe in? Where do we go when we die? What God do we believe in? Liberalism says, let's defer all the important questions. Let's say that it's okay that we all disagree. Let's defer having a consensus and therefore any authority.

00:22:43.020 Like the government can't say you have to be Catholic or you have to be Protestant.

00:22:47.020 We're going to fight and die for it.

00:22:48.680 Because if we did that, it would be nonstop fighting and dying.

00:22:52.020 So let's put an end to the fighting and dying and we can agree on one thing.

00:22:55.160 And the one thing we can agree on is we all want to live.

00:22:58.360 We don't want to be in the state of nature, right?

00:23:00.800 We don't want to have fear for our lives because, you know, Rousseau and Hobbes say that if you're in a state of nature where you're constantly concerned about being killed and everybody's a threat and everybody's a danger, then everything is permitted.

00:23:12.500 like any action, killing, stealing is self-defense. So the liberal consensus is to say, let's just

00:23:18.480 have a strong state that prevents people from killing each other. Cause that's the only thing

00:23:22.760 we can agree on is we all want to be alive. And therefore we, we don't need to have convictions

00:23:28.480 about things that people are willing to fight and die over. That's the thing. I am not a liberal.

00:23:33.480 I reject liberalism. I want to move beyond liberalism and say, there are some things that

00:23:38.500 are worth fighting and dying for, which are the true church, which are the real God, which is

00:23:42.780 right and wrong. And I think that what you and a guy like Destiny have in common, I know it's not

00:23:47.900 a flattering comparison, is that in my conversation with Destiny, he said things like, there's

00:23:53.100 nothing that's worth fighting and dying over. He says, I don't even think about the afterlife

00:23:57.200 because it's not practical. It's not important. We can never know. So why bother talking about it?

00:24:02.860 whereas Christians, no matter the stripes, say we deeply care, and we are people of faith,

00:24:09.060 we believe in an afterlife, we deeply care about debating where we go, and what is real God,

00:24:13.800 and what is the authenticity of the scriptures, and how do we interpret the Bible, and so on.

00:24:18.320 And so, you know, that's where the fundamental disagreement is, is I sort of reject the big

00:24:24.380 thrust of the last 500 years, which says, let's just put our differences aside and make some money

00:24:30.120 and live some and live a good life. I feel like to live a good life, we have to be virtuous. We

00:24:34.680 have to observe morality. We have to get into those things. And the thing is, because it is

00:24:39.940 subjective, you have all these different sects. And if they all have your ideology of it, I'm

00:24:44.680 willing to fight and die for my version of whatever religion they're following. We have centuries of

00:24:49.960 war and which is why we stepped away from it. I'd rather have peace and trade. There's still

00:24:54.780 things worth fighting for. I'd fight for my kids for anything, right? I'm fighting against all this

00:24:58.840 woke nonsense and stuff i'd be willing to die for it i don't know that'd be a situation where i could

00:25:03.740 die to fight it but uh you can have those moral principles without having supernatural beliefs

00:25:09.720 the thing is with dogmatism though is you each one thinks well this is the truth and the rest

00:25:16.080 of them got it wrong right but but my version of my religion is the one but the other guy thinks

00:25:21.000 the same thing and another guy thinks the same thing could be all these different protestant

00:25:24.980 sex and different and catholics and all fighting each other and muslims fighting each other and 1.00

00:25:28.660 muslims fighting christians it is better not to kill each other over your certainty of what you 1.00

00:25:35.000 think is going to be you're out to heaven i'm pretty sure it's not endless war i disagree i 0.97

00:25:40.460 think that i think that war is worthwhile and i think that killing is now now hang on hang on i

00:25:45.820 don't i'm not advocating violence okay i'm not advocating violence that didn't sound very

00:25:49.420 christian hey look sometimes look if it comes to you if the war is in your backyard you have to do

00:25:55.700 it. Right. Well, it is a dumb thing to start a war over, over like, you know, which church is

00:26:01.860 getting the money or something. That's, but that's the thing though, is you said yourself that 0.79

00:26:06.600 you would fight for your kids. And so like deep in your bones, you get that there are things worth

00:26:13.400 dying for. There are, there are lines that can't be crossed that'd be worth taking up arms over.

00:26:17.820 Now, things like transgenderism, I mean, you say that that's, and I'm not trying to debate here

00:26:22.880 and say so what you're saying but i'm just you know i'm just using this argument just people

00:26:26.940 playing pretend well okay but there are people there are progressives out there that say that

00:26:33.080 they would fight for their kids right to be trans they would say that my kid is trans that's who he

00:26:39.940 he or she is they're a tranny and i'm gonna fight for them to get their gender affirming care 1.00

00:26:46.360 i will fight you know now you see these trannies they're arming up in like texas they're all gun 1.00

00:26:51.500 nuts. So you got trannies with the guns at the protest, and then you got Nazis with the guns 1.00

00:26:57.000 at the protest. And one is saying, well, we're going to fight to let our kids go to the drag

00:27:01.760 show and be trans. And the other side is saying, we're going to fight to prevent our kids from 0.79

00:27:04.940 going there. Now, you know, would you say that that's something that would be, and again,

00:27:09.560 not talking about like a civil war, let's go out and be a vigilante, but that's something we're

00:27:13.260 fighting for. That can be resolved. The truth in the matter, that can be resolved because there

00:27:17.680 really is only two genders you can't really get at the who's right between one religious group

00:27:22.820 and another because it's both based on faith and imagination isn't it though all right if he's back

00:27:30.060 i'm leaving oh come on no no no right on time can you stay muted you guys are having a good

00:27:40.840 conversation nick i'll talk to you another time no no no come on come on come on get rid of that

00:27:48.100 okay he's gone he's gone he's gone he's gone circuit don't ruin my panel bro i'm not kicking

00:27:52.680 you out but just don't ruin my panel right now i'd like this conversation

00:27:55.080 like it's just like i don't know i can talk to nick all day i can talk to you all day but 0.97

00:28:02.800 people that are that dumb and doing cocaine like it's not it's not productive at all 0.97

00:28:08.080 it's funny isn't it funny though it's pretty funny i can't lie he's snorting cocaine he's 1.00

00:28:12.580 smoking cigarettes he's got his american flag hat on yeah yeah it's cax my day though ryan do you

00:28:21.680 think it's even worth fighting for white identity politics i think it's worth fighting against the

00:28:28.040 anti-white politics well i wouldn't replace that with white identity like there there's a bunch of

00:28:33.940 different cultures within white people and they're not just some homogenous blob right like i i think

00:28:41.140 specifically if you want to you know preserve irish culture or italian culture or czech

00:28:45.880 culture or something that's fine but to be like just whiteness maybe in america it's different

00:28:51.060 because there's they're all diaspora so it's but in europe i like you can't just say they're just

00:28:57.340 whites i think that's too broad and uh it kind of like you lose you lose a lot of history and

00:29:03.980 specific cultures and philosophies that are very different within whites but what i see in the

00:29:08.780 united states is a hardcore anti-white push where like and this is systemic racism like if you are

00:29:16.960 a straight white male your last pick to get into a college to get into certain jobs i know people

00:29:23.700 like in admissions that are telling me i know a woman that works in admission at a very large 1.00

00:29:28.640 firm that they're just like yeah just skip all the white guys until you've filled all the certain 0.89

00:29:32.380 categories from this equity and diversity bullshit right and you're not allowed to speak about 0.98

00:29:38.560 the racism toward whites without being called a white racist yourself right and then if you're 0.98

00:29:45.720 and if you're labeled racist then you're basically a non-person and you don't get to talk and you're

00:29:49.740 you know debanked and all that you know and so from nick's perspective or mine whether you

00:29:56.760 actually are a white identitarian or not you are not allowed to fight against the anti-white racism

00:30:01.940 without being labeled and depersoned as a racist and i don't think races should be depersoned i'm

00:30:07.640 just saying that they are depersoned nick i'm a little bit confused about what your position is

00:30:11.860 on white identity politics i i see that you don't like tucker because he kind of stays away from

00:30:16.000 that topic. But how what is your ideal approach to white identity in America? I think that whites 0.99

00:30:23.700 in America need to develop a racial consciousness, meaning they need to become aware that they are

00:30:28.440 white and they need to become aware of what that means for them and their heritage and history.

00:30:33.580 And they they need to be willing to defend themselves as a group, because the problem is 0.97

00:30:37.600 that blacks are extremely race loyal. Like all the studies show when you look at, like, for example, 0.90

00:30:44.500 a study that says between the groups, is your race important to you? Blacks are off the charts, 1.00

00:30:51.120 whites lowest. And it goes in every other category. We could go down the statistics, 1.00

00:30:55.420 but they're the most race loyal. Hispanics are very race loyal. Asians are extremely race loyal.

00:31:01.000 Whites have no race loyalty. And what you have in cities like Chicago or New York or LA 1.00

00:31:06.160 is that these groups, they will construct themselves based on identity. You know,

00:31:12.800 like the black people will elect black aldermen. The Hispanics will elect Hispanic aldermen. 0.98

00:31:18.760 They will break down when they vote for the mayor based on race, based on what the mayor is

00:31:23.180 promising to the constituent ethnic lobby or ethnic groups in those cities. And so what is

00:31:28.080 happening here in effect is that you've got ethnic interest groups that are working to secure

00:31:33.520 benefits for their constituent members. Like the Black Caucus, NAACP, they go out there to get

00:31:41.640 programs for black people. They go out there to get benefits for black people. La Raza group,

00:31:47.280 the Hispanic caucus, Hispanic chamber of commerce, they go out to deliver the goods for their

00:31:52.240 concentrated Hispanic community in the city. When it comes to whites, whites are talking

00:31:58.580 about the good of everybody. And so when whites are being attacked on the streets or whites are

00:32:02.920 being killed or whites are being discriminated against, people say things like, well, nobody

00:32:06.420 should be discriminated against. It's like, well, it's not everybody being discriminated against.

00:32:11.260 it's just white people. And so unless and until white people say, hey, we're a group, we have

00:32:17.140 rights, we have dignity, we have actually a special place in America, white people do, 0.93

00:32:21.960 specifically the English settlers, the founding stock, unless and until that happens, they cannot

00:32:26.960 protect their collective interests. Because every time, and this is notable, this is what happened

00:32:32.220 in Chicago with the recent mayor election. In the last mayoral election in Chicago, Lori Lightfoot

00:32:37.380 lost because it's a fucking disaster here and it was a runoff between and i forget their names i 0.98

00:32:43.820 don't even know the guy's name but it was a black guy named brandon go figure and this hispanic guy 0.98

00:32:48.660 named valis and valis had the support of the police union and he was tough on crime and the

00:32:53.740 black guy had the support of the teachers union and he wanted like you know he said we're going

00:32:58.260 to fix crime by doing social programs and he wants to tax the rich more and use that to fund

00:33:03.560 the social programs. And anyway, the way that the vote broke down is that all the blacks voted for 0.58

00:33:09.540 the black guy because the black guy is going to keep their kids out of jail or whatever. It's 0.98

00:33:14.000 going to keep them from suffering the consequences of their own community's actions. And he's going

00:33:18.220 to, you know, feed them these comforting lies that it's not their fault. It's the white man 0.98

00:33:22.620 keeping them down. And a lot of liberal whites voted for this guy. A lot of liberal whites on

00:33:27.540 the North side voted for this guy, even though they're the victims of the crime. And it was

00:33:31.740 basically split 50-50. If all the whites voted for Vallis because they said, you know what?

00:33:37.280 Us white people on the north side, we're getting our catalytic converter stolen. We're getting

00:33:41.160 robbed. Lori Lightfoot said she won't take questions from white journalists a few years back.

00:33:46.500 They're talking about redistributing the money from the north side to the south side. If the

00:33:50.880 whites got together and said, you know what? We're going to protect our white community. We're going 0.81

00:33:54.700 to protect our white interest. And then maybe more secondarily, the good of the city, this

00:34:00.000 Dallas guy would have won. And the cops would have been back on the streets and the crime would have

00:34:04.120 went down. It would have been perfect, but it would have been better than what we have now.

00:34:08.060 And this is what you see happening on a large scale. When Trump got elected in 16,

00:34:12.020 90% of the people that voted for him were white. And that's because Trump was speaking implicitly

00:34:17.200 to a white interest. He said, look, they're taking our culture, they're taking our jobs, 0.57

00:34:22.220 they're rapists, they're drug dealers, et cetera. And the left, I don't agree with them on a lot,

00:34:28.900 But they were partially right about this. They said that what Trump represented in some ways was a white lash because he converted a lot of Obama voters in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, who voted for Obama because Obama wasn't going to bail out the banks and he was going to save the auto industry.

00:34:43.800 They flipped to Trump because they hated how Obama was attacking white culture. They hated how Obama wasn't a patriot. And anyway, they went after fracking, too. That hurt him.

00:34:54.860 Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Energy. You know, but I don't think it was just about energy. I don't think it was just about the economy. I think it was, you know, when you think about Trump 16, it wasn't just about jobs. It was about believing in America. Make America great again. What does that mean? Does that mean clean coal or does that mean the 1980s? Does that mean a white country? Does that mean it's going to look like a white country, not look like Mexico City or Somalia or some other place?

00:35:24.880 And so I think that as America, and this is the important part, this is the last thing

00:35:28.160 I'll say, I don't want to ramble, but the last thing I'll say is this.

00:35:32.280 America's becoming a minority white country. 0.96

00:35:34.880 So whites are going to be 40%, or rather, less than 50% of the population by the middle

00:35:40.000 of the next decade, maybe even earlier.

00:35:42.640 When that happens, things are going to get much worse, and all of this anti-white grievance

00:35:47.120 that you hear from Hollywood and from the media is going to become, if it's not already,

00:35:51.280 hegemonic, meaning this is going to be the ideology that rules the country. So these psychos

00:35:56.960 that are saying, you know, I'm tired. I'm tired of these colonizers and white people and blah, 0.99

00:36:02.760 blah, blah. They're going to be teaching your kids in a minority white classroom. They're going to 1.00

00:36:07.420 be presiding over admissions at the elite universities. They're going to be the mayors

00:36:10.580 of the major cities, governors of the states with the major cities. They're going to be running the

00:36:15.200 country. Kamala is vice president. This is the last cycle where they needed a guy like Biden to

00:36:20.460 win over whites for the left to win an election. In the future, they're not going to need whites, 0.94

00:36:24.980 so they're not going to need Biden. Kamala will be the president or somebody like that.

00:36:29.420 Stacey Abrams, that's our future. And so especially at a time when whites are becoming 1.00

00:36:35.600 the minority and we're imperiled by this revengeful, angry, young, militant, non-white 1.00

00:36:44.240 coalition in politics, we need white identity to protect our collective interest as whites in a 0.86

00:36:49.900 country it's becoming minority white that that's why i disagree okay ryan what do you think

00:36:54.280 i think you have to break up the identitarian ideology of minorities too instead of adding one

00:37:01.160 if more blacks had voted against uh lori lightfoot or brandon maybe they wouldn't have ended up that

00:37:07.500 way the problem is with zionist media is pushing identitarianism in these groups and not others

00:37:14.660 they don't care about native americans because they're not a voting bloc but other minorities 0.99

00:37:18.520 are but it's like you can be non-white and they still don't give a shit about you like they don't 1.00

00:37:22.840 give a shit about any of these people they just use it as a weapon the same thing with like 0.99

00:37:26.020 you know you couldn't oppose illegal immigration without being labeled racist they're just using 0.99

00:37:31.500 this as a weapon and i don't think i have a question for nick before i continue do you have

00:37:37.160 you read the manifesto from uncle ted unibomber okay so pretty base yeah you finally read it good

00:37:45.820 it's i think leftism is a type of psychology not an ideology it's from this raging inferiority

00:37:51.840 complex and so and i used to think like because right now we have today's puritans is the woke 0.82

00:37:57.700 class right the puritans of the back in the day are accusing each other being witches and burning

00:38:02.200 each other and whatever that wasn't because of christianity or religion it was because of this

00:38:07.560 same psychology and they were just using religion as an authoritative source for their own control

00:38:12.720 freak behavior and you're seeing that now the the new sacred cow of today's age is anti-racism

00:38:18.240 and so whatever they want to do even if it's you know chopping off dicks of six-year-olds or what 0.98

00:38:25.480 you know the craziest crap you can imagine they'll couch that in well you know somehow i'm fighting 0.99

00:38:31.600 racism or sexism because those are the new sacred cows and it's from a psychology and we really have 0.99

00:38:36.900 to fix that psychology and it won't be you can't do it with a religion or something because they're

00:38:43.360 just going to make whatever they adopt fit their needs right they're going to absorb whatever has

00:38:48.980 the power so back then it was the church now you know it's this this sort of secular zionist media

00:38:54.880 they're going to use it they're going to weaponize it and push their agenda to control other people

00:38:59.240 that's part of their deep psychological need and you can see this they don't care about minority 0.98

00:39:05.140 groups it's just a vehicle through through which to exercise power and uh the identitarian stuff is

00:39:11.720 what they want us to break in they want to balkanize the united states along those lines

00:39:16.420 we should there should though i agree with nick that whites although in the united states are

00:39:22.940 from wherever and have their different cultures and histories and stuff irrespective of that they

00:39:27.720 are being targeted because they are white they're not being targeted because they're 0.50

00:39:31.380 german ancestry or irish ancestry or whatever they're doing targeted because of their skin

00:39:36.700 color and say you have privilege they blame them for colonizing the indians and slavery and blah

00:39:41.820 blah blah even though none of that was the product of biology that was a product of power

00:39:46.500 and anybody that had power did the same things to their neighbors it wasn't unique to europeans or

00:39:51.780 anything and it wasn't even all the europeans and europeans did it to each other we have to fix

00:39:56.700 we deeply need to fix our universities and educational system and i think if you keep

00:40:03.240 saying this is downstream from that this is downstream from that at the top is the press

00:40:07.180 the zionist control of media it's like whatever system of government you want to implement 0.97

00:40:12.500 or if you want to get rid of this propaganda and you know like self-hating whiteness and blaming

00:40:16.960 a race for historical problems and all that where are they getting all these ideas and like who is

00:40:22.760 the head of the NAACP and stuff, right?

00:40:25.180 Who organized that? Who created these

00:40:26.800 identitarian groups, right? There is

00:40:28.940 a group of racial

00:40:30.500 nepotists, of 1.00

00:40:32.680 Zionist Jews, that are 1.00

00:40:34.780 tearing the very fabric 0.99

00:40:36.340 of American society, attacking your 0.60

00:40:38.780 history, attacking your culture, 0.99

00:40:40.820 and it's these Trotskyite,

00:40:42.580 Leon Strauss, neocons,

00:40:45.700 and a lot of them are Jewish, 0.73

00:40:47.540 and a lot of the anti-white

00:40:50.180 propaganda has gravity because of world war ii and the story of the holocaust as if what hitler

00:40:57.660 did was some unique uh like it was uniquely evil and nobody he was fighting was guilty of all the

00:41:04.260 same sins right and so no whites cannot have any sense to nationalism especially in europe 0.79

00:41:09.780 or you're a nazi right ironically ukraine it ironically when because putin kicked a lot of 0.61

00:41:17.920 billionaire jewish oligarchs out of the country and he's enemy number one they'll do anything to 1.00

00:41:22.240 get rid of him including supporting azoff right so even you see even the race stuff will be put

00:41:27.600 aside when it comes to zionism so until we have a break in the media monopoly none of these ideas

00:41:34.940 can come to fruition it's good to develop them and it's good to have them and have the plans but

00:41:39.100 unless you have a voice you don't matter i know nick knows what it's like to be maybe not invisible

00:41:46.400 i've been invisible but like you know uh i'm sure your reach severely dropped when you lost youtube

00:41:53.120 and you lost twitter and lost like think of how much larger fuentes would be if he was still on

00:41:59.280 youtube and had all of them and me too like if we were all out on that imagine if my september 11th

00:42:04.280 docs were in theaters or something like loose changes on netflix right but that level of

00:42:09.580 education is not going to reach the public until we deal with zom like the zionist occupation of 1.00

00:42:14.380 media is worse than the government and the government yields to media they're scared to

00:42:18.560 death of bad press and being labeled this and that and having donors cancel and this and that

00:42:22.080 the media needs to be our number one focus is breaking that panoply and that's why gab rumble

00:42:29.540 two degree twitter but not really odyssey those kind of things this free market solutions

00:42:35.700 of other platforms as i've always said is going to be the answer because the government's not

00:42:41.360 going to fuck with you know section 230 whatever they're not going to enforce antitrust laws 0.54

00:42:46.200 they're not going to police themselves this is going to the break is going to become from 1.00

00:42:50.800 companies that they don't own where more people like you sneak out i mean you had like two million

00:42:55.760 or something you had a lot too nick moving over to rumble or wherever and making that viable look

00:43:02.160 there are a lot of other youtubers that we need to convince and say hey man they will erase you

00:43:06.800 whether it's pearl who just left you know or uh the tates are on your rumble but more people need

00:43:13.440 to come to rumble more people need to like at least copy their stuff over to gab or whatever

00:43:18.300 because if you keep using their media they will always have power over us they'll just cancel you

00:43:24.640 shadow ban you whatever they get to direct the flow of information which is tantamount to how

00:43:29.000 people can think another thing while you're talking i remember tucker even saying lori

00:43:33.180 lightfoot's a racist and i was like wow he's getting a little close to the sun she was a 0.63

00:43:37.980 racist right she was the mayor okay she's the mayor of chicago and she wouldn't talk to white 1.00

00:43:43.600 journalists which is racist who was that person running in chicago that was putting on that

00:43:48.080 martin luther king voice oh that was in tennessee that was okay uh yeah okay legislators down there

00:43:55.100 in nashville it is abysmal the state of like when nick was talking about kamala harris and i'm

00:44:00.180 thinking about that kareem jean-pierre whatever like the depth of our of our administrations

00:44:07.920 there's no jim bakers there's no schwarzkoffs there's no adults in the room i was talking to

00:44:13.960 scott ritter about this too because you really you guys should read his book on perestroika because

00:44:18.600 it's just dude it's phenomenal but i'm reading these books and i read things from i'm older than

00:44:25.220 both you guys i lived through the 80s and all it really was different they really did get dumber

00:44:30.680 like they're the administration of biden who's the intellect in this it's not lloyd austin right 0.65

00:44:37.600 it's not the president it's not the vice president it's not millie woke millie like where's the

00:44:44.440 grown-up like who's going to negotiate with lagrof or vladimir putin we don't have anybody

00:44:50.500 and it's like well i have 50 women just because right when you get rid of the meritocracy

00:44:57.460 you're gonna fail you can't just arbitrarily hire people based on racial and sexual category or

00:45:05.300 exclude people for the same reason that has to be done away with but i don't think approaching that

00:45:10.060 from a white identitarian uh strategy is gonna work i think that's just you're dead on your first

00:45:16.540 step because the like it or not this culture is so deeply against white anything that you got to

00:45:23.720 have to work on the media first yeah i just think that overall the problem with america fundamentally

00:45:33.500 is that the demographics are being replaced i agree with you that structurally you have

00:45:39.180 jewish mafia control over media and to an extent banking and the government and all of that 0.97

00:45:46.360 But the thing that's going to rally the troops, I mean, it's not even so much a matter of

00:45:50.380 strategy as much as it is, although that's a part of it.

00:45:53.560 It's the truth.

00:45:54.960 I mean, that's to me when you say, well, we got to fix the media, then then we'll figure

00:45:58.360 out what happens after, you know, then, you know, then once people have a voice, then

00:46:02.000 people can talk.

00:46:03.140 It's like, well, these are the ideas that we need to talk about, which is that America

00:46:06.620 has an historic white identity.

00:46:08.580 And insofar as that is being rejected and we're being replaced by non-whites, America 0.95

00:46:13.220 is going to deteriorate and come apart and be more susceptible to domination from foreign 0.99

00:46:17.520 countries. And I think, and this gets back to, this gets back to basics.

00:46:21.720 Doesn't that depend on which immigrants? I mean, I think like you look at Guam or Hawaii

00:46:26.400 have been greatly increased by Korean and Japanese immigrants and businesses.

00:46:30.300 Do you think though, that America becoming a minority white country is going to be better 1.00

00:46:34.480 for America than if it was majority white? No, because of the way they're doing it now, 0.99

00:46:39.940 they have all these identitarians is there any way that america could become minority white

00:46:44.740 where america would be even the same or better i don't think so because it's it should be with

00:46:52.960 the birth rates would be majority white unless you're bringing in people from the third world 1.00

00:46:56.940 and they bring their third world ideas with them yeah i would not attribute that to biology

00:47:01.400 well there's there's two issues here i mean on the one hand you've got

00:47:06.520 the prosperity of the country canada is very white it's woke as hell portland is the whitest 0.98

00:47:12.280 city in america and it's woke as hell it's like there's nothing intrinsic to the race that makes 0.99

00:47:15.720 them resistant to being a woke faggot like so we can say that because we're on rumble right 1.00

00:47:20.820 yeah like that's it's not white genes are not like oh well then they'll behave not really like 1.00

00:47:27.420 some of the worst most liberal most woke people are self-hating whites and it's because of the 0.96

00:47:34.000 media. The media is the problem. Oh, come on now. Well, OK, there's a lot. There's a lot of ground 0.98

00:47:39.420 here to cover. And I was about to say that you have to separate it out into prosperity and then

00:47:44.060 identity. I think that America would be more prosperous if it was more white than it is now. 1.00

00:47:49.380 But I also think that even irrespective of that, whether you look at Portland or Canada,

00:47:53.700 it's about what America actually is. And the idea is that even during the Soviet Union,

00:47:59.580 Even when you had a communist government in Russia, it remained ethnically Russian.

00:48:05.160 And so Russia was on one side of the Soviet Union, and then Russia came out the other

00:48:09.880 side of the Soviet Union.

00:48:11.380 With mass immigration, whites go in, they're on one side of progressivism in America, but 0.99

00:48:16.940 they're not going to come out the other end.

00:48:18.840 That's the point, is that no matter how bad the ideology is, French Revolution, Napoleonic 0.61

00:48:24.660 Wars.

00:48:25.020 Isn't Russia doing a lot better now than as the Soviet Union? 0.67

00:48:28.980 Yes. But the point is, is that it's still Russia. America bringing in on, you know, 0.61

00:48:35.560 such a large amount of immigration in such a short period of time, it's not going to be America 1.00

00:48:39.800 on the other side of this. If we ever get on the other side of this is going to be a country that's

00:48:43.980 unrecognizable. It's not going to look the same, sound the same, speak the same language,

00:48:47.920 have the same culture, have the same genes. And so, you know, that's really more to the point

00:48:52.560 is they're erasing america now as far as why that why they don't like that i think it goes all the

00:48:59.120 way back to like you said the holocaust and we don't need to get into the veracity of the holocaust 0.82

00:49:06.720 but suffice to say i think i can read your mind what you want to say and you don't have to say it

00:49:11.680 but to my other point about canada okay can i finish my point you can you can say it okay thanks

00:49:17.600 um so the foundational idea behind you all and you sort of you took me off my this is

00:49:26.500 nico's thing so be careful about yeah come on man like you can talk to me about it okay don't do

00:49:32.460 that here come on man like what do you mean come on we're talking about do you know how taboo that

00:49:38.020 topic is like please not on mine please i already lost my youtube channel platforming you all right

00:49:44.400 i'm not going to say what you think i'm going to say okay you can tell me later though i'm

00:49:48.420 interested just not the veracity of it notwithstanding let's say for the sake of argument

00:49:53.620 that uh and it's true we all believe in the narrative okay we all believe in the narrative

00:49:57.740 complicated by the museums and by the government okay absolutely well this narrative is so central

00:50:05.100 because it it specifically has to do with these jewish people in europe in america 0.84

00:50:14.140 which is to say that when they go out there and say Donald Trump is evil and he's a Nazi,

00:50:20.440 well, why is that? Why did they say that Donald Trump is a Nazi? Why did they say that Donald 0.93

00:50:25.040 Trump is evil? Because he's a Nazi. They say, well, he's like Hitler. Why is he like Hitler? 1.00

00:50:29.480 Because he's what? Pro-white, a nationalist, wants a strong military, all these kinds of things. He

00:50:37.300 believes in the strong gods of the society. Family, fatherland, the Volk, you know, the nation,

00:50:44.400 the people, being together, united in a common purpose. Now, he didn't say it in explicitly

00:50:48.720 those terms, but, you know, liberals could pick up what he was putting down. Now, why is Hitler 0.69

00:50:53.600 evil, they say? Well, because Hitler did the Holocaust. Well, as Ryan said, dictators have

00:50:58.360 done many genocides throughout history. Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, King Leopold II in Belgium. History

00:51:05.160 full of them from every place and every time. But, but so the narrative goes, what Hitler did 0.79

00:51:10.660 was so evil specifically because of how technological and systematic it was because

00:51:15.920 they introduced technological horrors, such as the train cars and the camps and the gas chambers,

00:51:22.400 but also this industrial killing, which had never been seen before in human history because you've

00:51:27.520 got, of course, industrial revolution, they've industrialized genocide. Yeah. Electric floors,

00:51:33.020 tarot it's just terrible what they did there but now okay now i wonder how they got the poison

00:51:37.800 fangs in the german shepherds well you know it's evil evil has a way right now they say that hitler

00:51:45.260 was exceptionally evil for that reason and and for that reason they say according to karl popper

00:51:51.120 according to the cultural marxist at the frankfurt school according to uh i forget his name but

00:51:56.980 author of authoritarian personality who maybe it's just uh tip my tongue but they all say after world

00:52:03.380 war ii that what caused the holocaust and by the way they never talk about the russians that were

00:52:08.260 killed they never talk about the gypsies they never talk about the catholic priests they never

00:52:13.300 talk about the polish they never talk about eisenhower's camps where they killed the germans 1.00

00:52:17.620 they ever talk or the japanese they never talk about the uh the rape of an and king they never

00:52:22.980 talk about those things. They talk about the Jewish Holocaust, and they say that Hitler was

00:52:27.180 evil because of the Jewish Holocaust, and that is why, in order to prevent that from never happening 1.00

00:52:32.340 again, never again, that's the motto, we have to deconstruct everything that led to the Holocaust, 0.98

00:52:38.560 everything that led to Hitlerism. And what led to Hitlerism? Well, a big part of it was race 0.89

00:52:43.160 essentialism. What made the Jews so alien in Europe was the fact that they weren't actually 1.00

00:52:48.660 a part of Europe. For a long time, they were segregated, had a corporate identity. They had

00:52:54.280 their own courts. They had their own police. They had their own language. They stuck out like a sore

00:52:58.460 thumb. What's more, they were against the religion of Europe. Europe was Christian, whether Protestant 0.87

00:53:03.480 or Catholic, and Catholics were more anti-Jewish than the Protestants. But nevertheless, in Hitler's 0.72

00:53:10.680 Germany, Jews were outsiders. In a country that is more homogeneous, in a country that has a strong 0.96

00:53:16.800 culture, strong religion, strong racial identity, Jews become the alien. They become the outsider. 1.00

00:53:22.700 And so this game that they were running in Europe for hundreds of years with the Rothschilds, 0.99

00:53:26.660 where they send out a Rothschild to London and Vienna and Paris, and they do their business 0.84

00:53:31.220 everywhere. Suddenly here in Germany, the Germans say, Hey, you know what? Well, we're going to stop

00:53:36.640 that. We're going to have a country where people that are aliens are not making the decisions. 1.00

00:53:40.840 They're not promulgating transsexuality like they were in the 1930s or homosexuality. They're not

00:53:46.460 going to be running this Paris peace accords bankruptcy deal over Germany. They're not going

00:53:52.340 to be running the media. And I think that's a big part of why the race thing is so taboo in America,

00:53:59.060 because if there was sort of this simultaneous white racial awakening, as well as a Christian

00:54:05.960 revival, and coupled with the awareness of what the Jewish mafia is doing, it's like, hey, 0.96

00:54:13.120 The writing's on the wall.

00:54:14.760 And this multi-trillion dollar racket that they have going,

00:54:18.480 where they run the IMF and the World Bank and all of that,

00:54:21.820 they run the media, they wield the American military

00:54:24.480 and the American taxpayer at their disposal for their interest,

00:54:28.080 suddenly that all comes to an end.

00:54:29.820 If people get together and say, hey, you know what?

00:54:32.340 These guys aren't like the rest of us.

00:54:33.980 And maybe they don't have our best interests in mind.

00:54:36.400 And so I think that that is fundamentally at the root

00:54:38.560 of why they're canceling people, why they're censoring people.

00:54:41.260 right but all of that was based on an ideology by the third reich the people that fought against

00:54:48.080 them were just as white as germany when the french and the british there they were just

00:54:52.660 as demographically white as the germans so but they did not have the same nazi ideals so

00:54:57.440 just like my example with portland or canada or whatever just having white biology does not mean

00:55:03.280 you're going to have like an anti-woke ideology the difference in germany is they didn't run the

00:55:09.480 press the reason we don't hear about nan king and the horrors of japan all the time is because the

00:55:13.780 koreans don't own the media the chinese don't own the media who does so that's why we hear about 1.00

00:55:18.860 hitler all day every day because the group in charge is the one that the crime was done to

00:55:23.920 so they're gonna you can have all these museums all these things and i'm fine with talking about

00:55:29.200 atrocities of the past but it's very lopsided like you brought up king leopold and stalin and so on

00:55:34.220 like yeah what most some people don't even know about the belgium and the congo or anything at

00:55:39.240 all and they killed millions and the famine in mingol blah blah blah you can make always list 0.79

00:55:44.180 of atrocities they don't get attention because the groups that were aggrieved don't own the press

00:55:49.620 it really does come down to who runs the media just having whiteness if they still have the

00:55:56.440 media they'll make you hate yourself and turn on each other as they are now you have to have the

00:56:01.220 press before you can move on race great i agree with that all i'm saying is that part of why

00:56:07.400 what about but i'm saying that part of why the race race essentialism is so critical to it is

00:56:13.540 because they recognize the threat that racial solidarity poses to their control that's what

00:56:19.220 i'm saying because the stronger the native forces in the country and by native i mean you know the

00:56:24.540 the people of the land you know the native with a small n no right sure um you know in so far as

00:56:31.300 there is a strong nativism in the country, it's going to be hostile to the transnational

00:56:36.540 alien force that they represent. And so, you know, and you're right, Britain did not share 0.62

00:56:42.620 the Third Reich ideology, neither did France, but they are attacking their ethnic identity in those 0.59

00:56:48.120 countries all the same. You know, even in England and France, they're telling them that anyone can

00:56:52.120 be French, anyone can be English, anyone can be Sweden, even though they didn't perpetrate it, 0.93

00:56:56.620 because the Jews know that if everybody in World War II

00:57:02.520 who fought in World War II saw what the country was like today,

00:57:05.860 they all would have been on Hitler's team. 0.83

00:57:08.020 Right, but they weren't like that in the 1930s.

00:57:09.920 I mean, pretty much everybody was Christian, everybody was white, 0.98

00:57:12.940 and they all fought each other anyway.

00:57:14.220 That wasn't a bulwark against what you're trying to stop.

00:57:18.740 No, and I understand that. I understand that.

00:57:22.140 The bulwark against what I'm trying to stop was in Germany. 0.91

00:57:25.160 and so the point is that if they could see today or they could see yeah or rather if they could

00:57:31.740 see then what we see today what the outcome wise they would have adopted that third right and now

00:57:37.880 maybe not particularly national socialism but certainly they would have been more against

00:57:42.500 this uh idea of the open society democracy because they see what it's wrought they see what

00:57:47.460 globalization transnationalism is multinational thing has wrought which is that we don't have

00:57:53.460 sovereignty anymore and our nations are on our own and they've lost our identities and so even

00:57:59.440 though the french and americans and british were fighting against so-called fascism you know the

00:58:03.940 fascism of the east you know of the the late monarchies of germany and austria-hungary and

00:58:09.620 russia i know that's not world war ii but you know what i mean they're fighting against that

00:58:13.440 continuation of the first world war anyway right if they had an annexed land and done the treaty

00:58:18.360 Versailles, there wouldn't have been a Hitler. But the other ingredient for Germany was 0.93

00:58:21.860 losing a war. I mean, the pain of losing their territory and losing a war

00:58:26.180 got people hyper-focused on politics, whereas maybe in France

00:58:30.420 or Britain, whatever, they're just, you know, buying pantyhose and the newest whatever

00:58:33.820 Gidget consumerism, you know, had them.

00:58:37.940 Wait, Ryan, can I ask you, how much do you think it's really worth

00:58:42.520 like, I don't agree with everything that Nick

00:58:46.380 is talking about obviously because uh this this conversation is is in minecraft but how much do

00:58:52.620 you think it's really worth uh fighting this fight and this goes back to the initial question of why

00:58:56.000 i think it's worthwhile for nick to go visit japan because it is a homogenous society it is

00:59:00.240 low immigration it is uh have a japanese majority if we're being honest there's never going to be a

00:59:05.140 white majority in america again it's inevitable that it's going to be below 40 and even that most

00:59:09.020 of the white people are woke most of the white people are scared and guilty they're never going

00:59:11.660 to be able they're never going to most white people are never going to resonate with your

00:59:14.860 message that's just the the hard truth about it so ryan how much would have the media changed

00:59:19.780 how would they really like most people don't think at all like like look at all the people 0.90

00:59:24.500 that wore masks right every race put on the fucking mask right they because most people 0.96

00:59:29.540 can't think for themselves maybe sweden didn't do it and a couple southern states said no early but 0.99

00:59:33.900 almost the whole world of every background put on a mask because the television told them to

00:59:38.420 right if you change what the message from television you can reach whoever you want

00:59:43.540 But how do we change the television?

00:59:45.260 That's something.

00:59:46.260 Is that even a realistic thing to expect?

00:59:49.100 Well, that's what I was saying earlier.

00:59:51.020 Like, actually, TV is probably already on its way out.

00:59:56.100 Like, social media is surpassing television, for political news anyways.

00:59:59.860 Like, they've been lied to so many times.

01:00:02.400 Then you've got the Durham report coming out.

01:00:04.280 Now they're admitting there was Co-Intel on January 6th.

01:00:06.680 You know, the virus woke a lot of people up because they're like,

01:00:10.120 what do you mean the vaccine doesn't stop me from getting a disease or

01:00:12.860 spray people are turning to like you guys for news and but then you guys need a platform like

01:00:21.660 rumble so what we need to do is exactly what we are doing bust up that monopoly they've had over

01:00:27.260 information by getting it away from tv completely because you're not going to own a tv studio

01:00:31.980 but you can have a rumble channel and like if you build up if rumble gets anywhere to like 10

01:00:37.420 of what youtube is it will really change policies okay so can a pushback is now can autistic

01:00:43.180 schizo streamers really beat the media well that's our only way out do you think that's realistic 0.99

01:00:52.140 if you don't get the media you cannot win so what where do you see other than violence i guess

01:00:59.280 but i don't think you could organize violence without media either the bigger question is

01:01:03.720 do you think the west is really is it even possible to save the west or is it just doomed

01:01:09.720 it might not be i mean do you including russia as the west hungary as the west

01:01:16.600 serbia i mean there are places that haven't fallen completely i would that's eastern europe

01:01:21.120 i would say like western europe america canada australia these places do you think do you think

01:01:28.600 western-ish i mean it's like white christian european i don't know but yeah i hear what you

01:01:33.900 mean like western europe uh australia canada like again looking at the demographics of australia

01:01:40.320 or canada new zealand it it's not a they're all super white majority that did not save them like 1.00

01:01:46.900 once your press is taken over it you're done they will put the faggots in your elementary school 1.00

01:01:52.100 and whatever they want to do because most people can't think for themselves they're lemmings of 1.00

01:01:57.860 every race, sad to say. The reason that saves Japan is not their Japanese-ness. It's just that 0.99

01:02:03.540 they don't have Zionists running their press. I don't think anybody's saying that whiteness

01:02:11.780 is going to prevent wokeness forever. I think every society degenerates over time. That's

01:02:18.380 just sort of the natural law of things. But our goal, or at least my goal, is to restore the

01:02:23.780 historic identity of America. Like we want France to remain France. We want England to remain 0.90

01:02:28.860 England. We want America to remain America. And part of the reason why they oppose that

01:02:37.800 is because they know that, that these two things are mutually exclusive. If America remains America

01:02:45.260 and, you know, and we maintain our historic identity, we maintain sovereignty over our

01:02:49.940 country that necessarily means the end of jewish mafia control and the same goes for these other 0.77

01:02:55.800 countries if there were some resurgent uh national awakening awakening or racial awakening

01:03:01.880 it would necessarily preclude transnational jewish entities from controlling the nation 0.99

01:03:08.340 so that's why they have to prevent it at any cost and you know what happened in the past

01:03:11.980 happened i don't endorse that and now that these countries are under foreign domination

01:03:16.200 the only way to to remove them the only way to displace them is to have a nativistic uprising

01:03:23.620 and as far as the media is concerned i don't share your optimistic appraisal about the media

01:03:27.840 rumble is invested in by peter teal peter teal is funding yoram hazoni the dual citizen nationalist

01:03:35.040 so i wouldn't feel too good about being on rumble i don't feel for i mean i have a rumble channel

01:03:39.880 hasn't got banned so far but who knows how long that's going to last even twitter

01:03:45.980 I remain banned on Twitter because, of course, ADL is still making the rules there.

01:03:50.080 Even though Elon Musk has been able to push back, and I'm not as pessimistic as some are,

01:03:55.320 by the same token, you know that they banned me, Kevin McDonald, Tom Sunick,

01:03:59.620 all these guys, because the ADL told them to.

01:04:01.700 That's how they got their advertisers back.

01:04:03.520 I was banned until January.

01:04:05.660 I think they brought you back for like a day.

01:04:07.640 He got back for a day, and then he said, I'm baby Hitler.

01:04:10.360 He started saying, I'm baby Hitler in a space five hours into getting restored.

01:04:13.580 but you could have played that you could have played that safer you could i don't play i don't

01:04:17.960 play that's a difference okay but what would have been a better strategic move if you're fighting a

01:04:23.180 war if you're really trying to go win this battle would it have been better if you just not set up

01:04:27.080 baby hitler in a space five hours to getting your twitter back here's here's the mistake that you

01:04:32.180 make and i see it all the time is that they want to keep you on a plantation and so when people

01:04:38.980 think they're playing the game people think they're being clever people think they're setting

01:04:42.860 plays, in reality, they're in the game. They're in the matrix. And I've said it before, the only way

01:04:48.980 to win the game is to not play because insofar as you're in it, insofar as you're getting dealt a

01:04:54.440 hand and you're playing cards and you're passing go and you're collecting your $200, you're still

01:04:59.900 in their game. And what that means is that you're not a threat. You're not making a difference.

01:05:04.960 Now, people have said that my whole career, if you had only done this, if you had only done that,

01:05:08.760 you know, wouldn't this been smarter? Wouldn't that have been better? The reason that I am

01:05:11.940 opposed is because i'm effective if i was less effective i would be less opposed the same goes

01:05:16.880 for right look at ryan ryan is not racist like me he's not anti-semitic like me no no no no nick

01:05:23.880 you're not racist and you're not anti-semitic true uh but you know what i you you don't understand

01:05:29.260 what i'm getting at and ryan dawson up until recently until he got unbanned on twitter was

01:05:34.060 just as banned as me he got banned on youtube before me he got banned on a lot of things before

01:05:38.320 it remains banned on most of those things. So I think that, you know, that, that line of thinking

01:05:43.140 only goes up to a certain point. Sometimes you just have to confront the system and you need

01:05:47.740 a guy like me. There are plenty of people that are setting place. There are plenty of people that are,

01:05:52.080 uh, choosing their words carefully and their dog whistling and they're given these crumbs for

01:05:57.420 people to follow. You need at least one guy. And I feel like if everybody did it, it would be a

01:06:02.840 different story, but I cannot live my life like that. I have to throw myself into the machine.

01:06:07.960 I'm like a human Molotov cocktail, human red pill. 0.74

01:06:11.600 And if it doesn't work, so be it.

01:06:14.420 But I think that people have been playing games for a long time and they've been and

01:06:19.180 I think it's a big part of how they defang the resistance is by convincing people that

01:06:24.020 they're doing more than they are.

01:06:25.700 And insofar as guys like Tucker and Chris Rufo and the others, insofar as they are pulling

01:06:31.320 their punches to the extent that they even are.

01:06:33.520 I mean, maybe they don't even maybe they're not more extreme than they let on.

01:06:36.400 But insofar as those guys are not giving the full message, are we really making any progress?

01:06:42.340 I think that's all part of the grand illusion.

01:06:44.980 That's like the definition of controlled opposition.

01:06:47.460 I think very few people decide like, I'm going to sell out and shill and become a fake ineffective opposition.

01:06:53.680 I think they all think they're working very hard and making a lot of progress.

01:06:57.680 But, you know, all those people are still being dealt a hand.

01:07:00.860 Now, it doesn't mean they're not being opposed, but it means that they're not they're not trying to crush those people.

01:07:05.160 So, I mean, that's just a difference in philosophy, I guess, is I think that, you know, I don't believe in compromise. I mean, I believe in being practical. I believe in being pragmatic. I believe in working with what you have and that sort of thing.

01:07:19.300 but uh you know but i feel like we have enough people telling harshly right in like oh just

01:07:27.440 stick to your guns don't compromise whatever you're playing a game but you need an on-ramp

01:07:32.440 to be realistic from my case specifically no one gave me a quarter million dollar bitcoin or

01:07:37.220 anything and i cannot not have twitter like i have family take care of responsibilities

01:07:41.220 and i can just use twitter to direct people to other places i know what i can and can't say on

01:07:46.400 twitter so i i put it up to the line i say come over to rumble or telegram and then you could

01:07:51.760 talk about it there like you could have used to say whatever i want you could use twitter

01:07:55.180 it can be used yeah it could be used strategically um but yeah they're probably going to ban me again

01:08:02.140 anyway it's just use it till you lose it kind of thing but uh i am self-censoring to a degree 0.98

01:08:07.900 because i'm like i did exactly what you did for about 20 years i was like fuck you i'm gonna be 0.99

01:08:13.460 me i'm done doing that like i'm sick of being poor i'm sick of being people you know trashing 0.99

01:08:19.800 defaming me everywhere you can't google my name i'm like accused of you know i'm baby hitler too

01:08:25.300 and i'm not at all like and that's not me that's not me being tactful i sincerely don't hold those

01:08:31.200 positions never have right they're gonna throw me under the bus anyway so i still think twitter

01:08:36.340 is kind of a mystery like i know they rebanned scott ritter they wouldn't let germy mckenzie

01:08:39.780 back on, they banned Sarah Westall 0.97

01:08:41.580 the people you named

01:08:43.560 a lot of people never on again

01:08:45.440 the people from Mike Enoch and those

01:08:47.800 guys, Daily, what's it called

01:08:49.500 they're not on there

01:08:50.720 so it's not completely free speech

01:08:53.980 and then it's like, well we have Ryan Dawson

01:08:55.940 on, I'm like, yeah, for how long

01:08:57.620 and I actually did get suspended in February

01:08:59.540 so as soon as I got on

01:09:01.800 a month later I already got suspended

01:09:03.580 I did appeals, I got it back again

01:09:05.380 I'm like, man, can't lose this

01:09:07.820 uh because since i've been on twitter like i met up with sneko i met up with myron from

01:09:13.440 fashion fit i'm on like all these different circles andrew tate and tristan tate has

01:09:20.160 retweeted me and stuff and it's gotten my name out and doing that i was on youtube to a you know

01:09:26.780 million point three people talking about the adult version of 9 11 which we had to take over to

01:09:31.920 rumble as soon as we talked about them boys but that would have never happened other people made

01:09:36.880 careers off my stuff like they'd watch my video and then go tweet about it because i'm not allowed 0.94

01:09:41.500 on there and make a career right i'm sick of that shit so i feel like i wish you were on twitter i 0.92

01:09:48.000 wish you would do an appeal and try and come back tone it down a notch but just use it to move people 0.92

01:09:53.400 to it's gonna be gab or wherever i know it's dude it is not easy there's so many things i want to

01:09:59.700 comment i'm like oh i could answer this but i can't answer this you could have just used something

01:10:03.980 like that to insinuate the new ceo's world economic forum so it's going to be extremely

01:10:07.480 difficult i mean i would love for nick to be reinstated but she's attached to robert crap 0.98

01:10:12.080 nick you need one of these you do what's that that's why what is it that's how it's my song

01:10:17.120 whistle oh whenever i'm there i just when you go replay this you'll hear that bell a few times

01:10:23.520 yeah i mean they're like you talk about jeffrey fstein i'm like is this youtube

01:10:29.000 yeah no because it's all of them it's all just the whole time and you know it's like as kevin

01:10:36.340 alfred strong said to learn who rules over you so you're not allowed to criticize that is true

01:10:40.200 you know who you're not allowed to criticize there then there's this hierarchy and this

01:10:44.360 identitarian stuff it's getting worse and worse like like he's like this type of sexuality and 0.98

01:10:51.120 this oh do you see the incident with the woman who had her bike stolen or tried to steal a bike

01:10:55.920 for some black guys whatever like oh we're gonna see who wins karen or blacks right like who's who's 0.52

01:11:01.760 more privileged because it wasn't gonna why don't you just see who bought it first look at the 1.00

01:11:05.140 receipt case closed right nope they had to play sex and race identity crap it's just like man 0.91

01:11:13.080 bites dog more at 11 i'm tired of it but i think you should i think you should do an appeal and 0.87

01:11:18.740 try and get back on twitter and use it strategically in my opinion it doesn't understand everything

01:11:23.060 be that it doesn't have to be that you're selling out by playing the game it's it's bringing people

01:11:27.880 you have to think of it as a funnel and a way to bring people to your platform already like

01:11:31.820 ryan dawson has banned from crypto exchanges same thing like you you've been canceled so much like

01:11:36.740 why would you not take the opportunities if elon must takes over twitter and it's the best place

01:11:41.280 for some level of free speech why not just why not you i understand that you were like i'm the

01:11:47.000 martyr i'm the most canceled i'm the no-fly list they want to kill me all this stuff but it's an

01:11:52.000 extremely useful tool was it worth it calling yourself baby hitler five hours into having it

01:11:56.700 really and see that's just such a cringe like you're you're basically victim blaming it's like

01:12:01.680 i go on twitter and they say you're victimizing yourself well i'm not victimizing myself i'm a

01:12:07.980 free man and i i own the responsibilities i'm you're the one crying about me not being on

01:12:12.240 twitter i'm not crying about it i'm just saying that it's more strategic like your message you

01:12:16.180 can be heard by a lot more people and you're wanting to martyr yourself more than you could

01:12:20.420 go and read more people but i'm not martyring myself i go out there and tell the truth and

01:12:25.660 then they ban me i'm not gonna not and here's the thing i mean you could say well should you have

01:12:29.880 used twitter to like post your cozy link or something i think i would have been banned all

01:12:34.880 the same to tell you the truth i think honestly the point is make them do that though like make

01:12:39.820 them show everyone look they banned me for linking to cozy like i think there's a lot of truth you

01:12:45.080 can get out without going straight to hitler like i'm not my opening salvo is not gonna be okay they

01:12:49.460 you've got windows in mcdonald you know like that's there's a lot of things you can say and

01:12:54.540 damage you can do to the system without going straight at the at the soft spot right um i

01:13:02.340 understand your argument and it is victim blaming you're right because it's like why didn't you act

01:13:06.720 like this because he should be allowed to say whatever like if it's really free speech and

01:13:10.600 first amendment as long as it's not illegal but it's not about should and should not we all know

01:13:15.880 Well, that's what I was getting to. Right. This is Hume's guillotine between what is, you know, what ought to be. It ought to be like that, but it isn't like that. And if you're playing strategy and you want to win, I think having a Twitter is definitely a plus.

01:13:29.520 well i mean i just i made a decision a very long time ago uh that i was going to go down this path

01:13:37.220 and you could say that about anything like when i got offered a job at daily wire it could have

01:13:42.620 been argued like why did you take the job i mean you could have gotten paid and you could have

01:13:47.500 dog whistled a little bit and gotten your name out there and then you know then you could have

01:13:51.820 told the truth at some later destination and it goes like all the way through my entire career

01:13:57.360 and um yes you could make that argument respectfully and well and respectfully

01:14:02.980 some people are choosing to do it that way and you know i wish them luck but i chose to do it

01:14:10.780 this way and i'm not i'm not about to at this point i think it's almost like a sunk cost fallacy

01:14:15.020 when people say like well you're already banned from everything wouldn't you like try to get back

01:14:19.020 in the game or something it's like well uh i don't know i feel like why would i why would i

01:14:24.720 start compromising at this point. I mean, I made it this far and this is my strategy and I'm sticking

01:14:29.860 to it. I don't think there's going to come a time when I'm ever going to be undeplatformed or

01:14:34.140 people are going to begin unblacklisting me or accepting me. And so, and moreover, I've always

01:14:40.240 said at the outset that my goal is to red pill people who will then basically do the thing you're

01:14:46.740 describing, you know, because my audience is all young people. And I made the calculation early on

01:14:51.820 that if a fraction of those people become millionaires, lawyers, politicians, even if

01:14:56.260 it's a small fraction, and deep down they have the same ideas as me, I'll have done

01:15:02.140 my job.

01:15:03.120 And in 10, 15, 20 years, those people are going to be in the highest levels of society.

01:15:08.600 If I had never told the truth, that wouldn't be the case.

01:15:11.920 Because you have a lot of people currently that believe the stuff that Matt Walsh is 0.97

01:15:15.540 saying, and what good is that doing for fucking anybody? 0.98

01:15:18.320 You know, there's a lot of people who watch Tucker Carlson over the last seven years. Did the country get more right wing? Did Trump get more right wing? Did the Trump movement get more right wing? Half of them fucking support DeSantis. So that did a whole lot of good. And it's that, you know, we can't lay blame at his feet for everything. But point being is, I feel like somebody has to tell the full truth. 0.99

01:15:39.740 And the other thing is, this is the last thing I'll say.

01:15:42.760 To some extent, it is a moral imperative.

01:15:46.120 You know, like, I am a Christian.

01:15:48.280 I know neither of you are Christian. 1.00

01:15:50.280 That's okay.

01:15:51.600 But, well, it's really not okay, but I accept that for the sake of this conversation.

01:15:55.440 But I'm a Christian, and I'm inspired by the story of the gospel where Jesus Christ is put up against temptation.

01:16:02.300 And they put him in front of a mob, and he's innocent.

01:16:05.280 And they say, well, we're going to crucify him.

01:16:08.540 And the example that Jesus sets, I was reflecting on it this Easter, is this sort of stoic acceptance in the face of an unjust persecution, betrayal, being killed for telling the truth or doing the right thing.

01:16:22.180 Now, when I say that, people say, oh, you're comparing yourself to Jesus.

01:16:25.700 No, I'm following the example that was set by Jesus, which is that, and it's like Brian just said, he said, well, I'm tired of being poor.

01:16:32.160 it's like well I'm not poor

01:16:34.240 but I'd be willing to be poor

01:16:35.900 and I'd be willing to get killed and I'd be willing to do

01:16:38.140 all these things and it's not because of

01:16:40.140 a narcissistic thing I don't you don't think 0.99

01:16:42.100 I want to fucking die I don't want to die 1.00

01:16:43.740 you think anybody likes being poor 1.00

01:16:45.760 being poor sucks you know and I've been there before 0.99

01:16:48.160 I was a broke college 0.99

01:16:50.380 kid and I struggled for a little while

01:16:51.940 you know but I'd be willing

01:16:54.100 to do it because at the end of the day it matters more

01:16:56.160 to me that I'm telling

01:16:58.100 the truth and standing tall in the face

01:17:00.060 of the opposition as a moral choice

01:17:02.620 It's not about me as a partner.

01:17:03.840 Nick, no one's telling you not to tell the truth.

01:17:05.300 Just cool it on Twitter a bit.

01:17:06.980 Like, if you had not had a YouTube and large on-ramps in the beginning,

01:17:10.540 you would not have made money and would not have had a voice

01:17:12.540 and no one would know who you are.

01:17:14.660 Well, and then I got banned from those things, too.

01:17:16.540 And people were telling me that, well, you've got to get a head start

01:17:19.420 on those things, or no one would know who Nick Quintez is.

01:17:21.860 Like, this is a practical thing, and having a Twitter is a plus.

01:17:25.420 I think that you're trying to play chess with life.

01:17:29.480 You've got to stop setting plays.

01:17:30.700 You got to just, you got to be, you got to just do it.

01:17:33.180 You got to do what I said is just true.

01:17:34.880 I mean, I understand.

01:17:35.640 I like your conviction to Christianity and doing it like an example of Jesus.

01:17:39.940 If that's your reasoning, then you, that's what you have to do.

01:17:44.820 But realize that much of your success is because you did have a YouTube for years and you were

01:17:50.640 not being canceled at first.

01:17:52.420 And that lets you gather a large group and followers and then people willing to help

01:17:57.240 you and and then have a gab and like an andrew england and whatever his fame is like that wouldn't

01:18:02.800 happen without a youtube like this you have to have an on-ramp or you're invisible well i could

01:18:08.840 i could have made it further with youtube and i made a conscious decision in 2020 i said like i

01:18:14.940 could i could stop because at a certain point the youtube terms of service got so restrictive

01:18:19.660 and you know i'm sure you follow it closely yeah i mean i remember you're like i'm not even going

01:18:23.880 to appeal like i'm done but like i feel like you had established yourself enough and we're well

01:18:27.600 enough off financially and stuff that you could walk away and do something else but well and then

01:18:31.980 i got banned from d live and then i got banned from you know i got banned from a million things

01:18:36.740 so i mean you could say well you were on youtube for a couple of years but it's like i got banned

01:18:40.720 from everything and there were decisions all along the way where i could have i could give you a

01:18:45.820 hundred like inflection points where i could have made the decision like all i'm saying is i i get

01:18:51.400 but did you admit that having a youtube is like got you all that ability and wouldn't having a

01:18:57.240 twitter add add to that you don't have to you just don't have to go straight to hitler is all i'm

01:19:02.520 saying slippery slope it's i i think that it doesn't have to be slippery slope just cut off

01:19:06.360 the hitler five hours in you know okay well listen i like i said there were a hundred inflection

01:19:11.400 points where i i was faced with the decision which was i could self-censor to get this strategic

01:19:17.880 benefit or i could not and you know there were a hundred instances like that and you know which

01:19:24.140 ones to take and which ones not to take i mean if i had taken the first one i'd be on i'd be like

01:19:30.740 matt walsh you know if i'd taken the first one i'd be on some fox and friends show and i'd be talking

01:19:35.460 about the latest funny dog video on the five or something like hey how about this funny video of

01:19:40.400 uh you know how about these leftists and their freaking cancel culture you know like there were

01:19:44.660 a hundred different times where I could have said, I'll say less, I'll do less. And I feel like 0.84

01:19:51.160 it's paid off. I mean, I had dinner with Donald Trump and Kanye West. I'm on the stream now.

01:19:56.820 I think I'm a pretty well-known figure. So I feel like it, uh, you're right. It hasn't been

01:20:02.520 beneficial to be banned on Twitter or YouTube, but it hasn't been detrimental. I don't think

01:20:07.000 you, you don't really need it because you're so established, but I'm giving this advice to

01:20:11.800 everybody there's a key thing that you said nick that i think you should reevaluate you said that

01:20:17.080 uh why are you playing chess with life well it's not that you're playing chess with life you think

01:20:21.000 that you're you're trying to make actual changes like in your mindset you're fighting a battle

01:20:25.540 you're fighting a war so it's not like you're strategizing your entire life it's strategizing

01:20:29.640 the message that you're trying to spread it's not a strategy yeah yeah it's okay to play chess

01:20:37.100 especially talking about what you're talking about you don't need to think of it as selling

01:20:40.740 out your life or selling out your morals and principles. It's just strategy. I just feel like

01:20:45.140 there's now don't get me wrong. Like I said, I'm, I'm practical and I'm pragmatic, but what you're

01:20:51.280 talking about is a whole different mindset. And I think that once you, what I'm talking about is

01:20:56.460 once you start thinking that way, where does it start and where does it end? I feel like a lot

01:21:00.940 of people think their way into a position of compromise. And so you're saying, well, you know,

01:21:06.460 just don't say Hitler. Yeah. Okay. And five years ago was just don't say this and just don't say

01:21:10.820 that and just don't do this and just don't do. And you can say Hitler, just not on Twitter.

01:21:16.340 All I'm saying is once you get into that mentality, it's a whole different kind of

01:21:21.960 logic that you're working with here. And if the, I'm saying that it's easy to say that in

01:21:27.620 retrospect, it's easy to say that in hindsight and say, well, what about this particular instance?

01:21:32.800 What I'm saying is over the course of a lifetime, you're faced with many decisions like that.

01:21:37.180 And those decisions ultimately shape who you are and what you do and what your legacy is.

01:21:42.120 And yes, what your strategic output is, what your actual benefit in the world is.

01:21:46.920 I would say that strategically, I'm like red pilling more people than anybody.

01:21:51.380 Like if you call me a white nationalist anti-Semite, I'm like the number one anti-Semite white nationalist of the 21st century, basically.

01:21:58.920 That's what they call you, but you're not that.

01:22:00.320 Is that disputed?

01:22:01.000 i'm the kingpin number one so i feel like as far as my you're not really those things right okay

01:22:07.260 but you understand what i'm getting at they call you that right for lack of a better word i mean

01:22:11.720 for if we're gonna use we're compromising right now because it's nico's stream i mean this is

01:22:15.860 exactly what i'm talking about this is strategy well okay so you're not a white supremacist and

01:22:21.200 not or you are i'm not a white supremacist but i'm i'm a white i'm a race realist i'm a white

01:22:29.120 loyalist uh you know whatever you want to call it um so you know look i think that you guys because

01:22:37.140 you know sneeko you always come in here and you tell me like you ought to do this you ought to do

01:22:41.700 that you ought to do that and like i've considered all i've considered these things before i've made

01:22:45.920 my choices i think that you should consider what i'm saying which is that it's really a different

01:22:51.320 way of living which says i'm gonna i'm gonna say what i'm gonna say i'm gonna do what i'm gonna do

01:22:55.800 i have these goals i have this message um but once you start getting into the habit of saying

01:23:01.480 playing not to lose i can't lose my twitter i don't want to lose my youtube i don't want to

01:23:07.100 lose respectability here i don't want to lose i don't again you can point to one thing but a

01:23:12.880 person makes that decision every day and once you get in that mentality uh i think that that's what

01:23:18.540 leads to a lot of people becoming controlled opposition i think everybody starts out wanting

01:23:22.600 to change the world and then they play themselves the person makes that decision every day it's a

01:23:27.340 box mute your mic man

01:23:31.040 that's it

SNEAKO - May 20, 2023

SNEAKO Hosts Intense Debate With Ryan Dawson & Nick Fuentes!

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