SNEAKO - SNEAKO Hosts Trinity Debate With Young Don & Zherka!

00:00:00.000 did you ever at one point in time believe abortion was cool oh yeah i was an idiot yeah so

00:00:10.800 when did you think abortion was cool well pretty much my whole life like remember i lost my virginity

00:00:18.960 like a month away from turning 21 so i never really had the problem of oh i get someone pregnant

00:00:24.320 but 2016 i was i was uh for hillary clinton oh really no i swear to god i was the only one in

00:00:33.540 my family everyone else was more moderate but uh yeah wait why before we get into the debate why

00:00:39.740 were you for hillary clinton i can't even i'm just loyal to like i'm loyal to clinton foundation for

00:00:45.940 saving my life uh but that's before i had god okay but now you know that they were farming

00:00:51.580 children for their body parts and they had a human trafficking ring in haiti right

00:00:55.740 all right you get saved by demons you say thanks and move on

00:01:04.380 you listen to music all right hold on let me get you up on the screen here brother

00:01:10.220 let me get you up on the screen here you know you got like that 70s soothing radio voice

00:01:16.860 nice oh thank you man i appreciate that welcome back to 105.1 i'm your host don

00:01:24.300 reading the bible and why the trinity is false let's talk about why this trinity is false brother

00:01:31.500 hey shout out to my boy sneeko man for putting this together um over there at rumble yes let

00:01:38.680 me go ahead and actually put your link in the description gotta show you that that uh rumble

00:01:45.580 love yeah you should come over to rumble man rumble.com i do need to like set up a rumble

00:01:52.380 thing and because there are certain things i want to talk about that i know for sure

00:01:56.060 is dead on youtube i cannot talk about it on youtube at all rumble's growing quite a bit i

00:02:00.460 think this is the the website of b you're gonna fit right in over here yeah no i appreciate that

00:02:05.520 bro i definitely do need to make that move but how you doing brother i'm doing good man i'm doing

00:02:10.240 super chat from andre says god had to go through a human form in order to judge us it's called

00:02:15.920 being as competent judge it's a psychological term would you want god to judge you if he didn't

00:02:20.340 know how to be human okay so so the the chat's basically the i'm debating chat right now on the

00:02:25.560 validity of the trinity okay so i haven't had any yeah that's an illogical concept because god knows

00:02:31.420 all things so to say that god needed to take on the form of a human in order to know how to judge

00:02:36.500 humans would presuppose that god prior to his human form actually didn't know how to do something

00:02:40.940 so yeah that's a that's a logically flawed like concept have you seen all the i have a bunch of

00:02:47.820 verses in the bible where it shows that jesus prayed to god and that god never prayed to jesus

00:02:53.800 just that there's a you're lagging a little bit don don i'm lagging no lagging okay you're good

00:03:00.060 your back okay okay good good yeah let me close some let me see if there are anything i need to

00:03:06.560 close your audio sounds good though let me call his handler um yeah so like a lot of christians

00:03:12.620 he's uh he he does partake in quite a bit of uh sin i'll put it like i'll put it light like that

00:03:22.100 so sure sure i got you he's gonna yeah he's a cocaine crusader is what i've heard yeah okay so

00:03:31.900 yeah i'm not yeah he's a cocaine crusader so in islam like you there's a sort of shame when you

00:03:36.640 sin you're not supposed to publicize things like that if you didn't even if you do sin you're

00:03:40.540 immediately supposed to to repent and culturally everybody's going to to look down and upon you

00:03:46.480 but it seems like there's not a lot of shame in christianity and i i've saw someone told me this

00:03:51.840 when i was in columbia uh i thought it was a funny tweet but i didn't steal it he said muslims are

00:03:57.060 better christians than christians are they muslims if you even look besides the the trinity and the

00:04:01.880 fact that they don't follow the the christian scripture they the way that they act culturally

00:04:07.020 are they're more religious and they followed a lot of the rules in the bible closer than a lot

00:04:12.680 of christians in the west well i think you can say that about all people groups you know i'm very

00:04:17.160 close with a muslim brother who's like a good friend i was close with him before i became

00:04:22.000 religious and you know he told me about a trip he took to morocco and that's like a completely

00:04:27.740 muslim country and he says the levels of debauchery and drug abuse that he saw with his own two eyes

00:04:34.220 even him as a muslim who who like whose family is from morocco he was so appalled he was so

00:04:40.340 surprised so you're gonna find that all over the world with any group bro you feel me you're gonna

00:04:45.280 to find people who claim a group and don't live by the standards but there's there's more shame

00:04:51.520 like i just came back to morocco too last month i've heard people talk about this i personally

00:04:55.920 didn't see any prostitution i didn't see any drugs i didn't see some people drinking alcohol

00:04:59.460 but it was nothing like the drinking culture that you see here none of that what they talked about

00:05:03.140 like oh morocco's there's this debauchery they did talk about the fact that there's witchcraft

00:05:07.060 on some islands it's not publicized at all and i was there for quite a bit i didn't see any of it

00:05:12.340 and if it is you can feel the cultural shame if people were sinning if people were acting out of

00:05:17.520 line they were doing it with guilt they knew what they were doing is wrong whereas a lot of christians

00:05:23.300 in the west they'll knowingly sin i've seen even christians today on my timeline mike malak for

00:05:28.620 example the logan paul co-host he was telling he was saying like oh god be with you god like bro

00:05:34.400 didn't you marry a porn star like you're it's crazy to me that they that they will commit some

00:05:41.260 the greatest sins and then still use the name of god when it comes to to shame so they don't feel

00:05:47.820 the same level of guilt in the west as they do in the middle east at all that's uh the point i'm

00:05:52.300 trying to make okay okay yeah you know again it all just comes down to like the individuals

00:05:59.180 you feel me all this comes down to the individual i most certainly feel shame about i mean in

00:06:04.440 christianity it is it does seem to be a little bit more encouraged though to feel comfortable

00:06:09.640 sharing you know your your slip ups with others because it's a it's one um prayer is super

00:06:17.560 powerful and if you want people to pray for you because you're going through something you need

00:06:22.460 to be able to be comfortable telling them about it also confessing your sins to other people

00:06:27.880 is oftentimes the first step in facing your sin and overcoming it and it's also a good testimony

00:06:34.440 because you know the bible tells us that no man right um all fall short of the glory of god right

00:06:40.400 nobody's perfect and so it's sometimes actually encouraging when you see somebody else who is

00:06:47.720 professing jesus it has a fire for christ and can be vulnerable enough to like share something that

00:06:53.300 they're going through and it just you know it can help you on your journey as well so i got one for

00:06:59.040 10 from andre he says the trinity works because god is the creator who provides the holy spirit

00:07:04.160 through jesus his will was to sacrifice jesus to release the holy spirit for all men to have

00:07:09.740 intersection prayer with god yeah hey guys get the likes up hey if you're excited to watch

00:07:16.500 you know me sneaker and uh zerk i have this conversation about the trinity and you know

00:07:21.360 i'm sure it will evolve into other things go ahead and show your boy some love light the video man i

00:07:26.120 really appreciate it if you like the video like the video too over on sneaker's and and uh yeah

00:07:32.440 here's the thing man i mean look you can find intelligent ways to try and rationalize the

00:07:38.260 trinity the question is is it biblical you know i'm saying like is there any mention in the bible

00:07:43.240 of the holy spirit oh yeah the holy spirit most certainly but the spirit is we're told that the

00:07:48.480 holy spirit is the spirit of the father you know i'm saying right it's the spirit of god so um at

00:07:53.780 least that's my understanding of the holy what are you now what is how would you classify your your

00:07:58.780 faith i mean i guess it depends who you ask you know i mean the the most generic label i wear is

00:08:04.640 still a christian but um it depends on who who you ask i don't really concern myself much with

00:08:11.020 labels i am somebody who is obeying my lord jesus christ right my master jesus christ i disciple

00:08:19.980 after jesus christ i try to follow jesus christ whatever you call someone who tries to do that

00:08:24.860 to the best of their abilities that's what i am okay so it'd be better to understand that before

00:08:32.220 we get into the debate i'll wait for zirka to come on to really figure it out but so what's

00:08:37.580 what's your overall stance on the trinity i do not agree with the doctrine of the trinity i think

00:08:43.200 it's an inaccurate way to to categorize the relationship between god the father uh his son

00:08:49.600 yeshua jesus christ and uh you know the holy spirit but the the most people they can actually

00:08:57.400 i mean i guess you have some people are super religious and dogmatic about the concept of the

00:09:02.700 trinity but most people won't necessarily say you're not a christian if you don't believe the

00:09:08.800 holy spirit is a person if you think the holy spirit is uh is just a is a power of god or

00:09:14.140 something like that but what a lot of you know what a lot of like mainstream christians have a

00:09:22.360 problem with is the idea that you you don't believe uh yeshua jesus is yahweh who is the

00:09:28.040 name of the father who is the name of god right if you believe that uh yeshua is the son of god

00:09:33.740 right and not god himself they have a problem with that you know a lot of these people they

00:09:39.300 take the label of son as metaphorical they don't believe that god is actually jesus's father and i

00:09:46.860 can't speak for all trinitarians i actually believe there are a lot of confused trinitarians

00:09:50.360 that they themselves would say wait no i don't believe that i do believe jesus is god's son but

00:09:56.720 then they can't explain to you well how can jesus be god's son if he has always existed alongside

00:10:02.720 the father at what point did he become god's son how did that happen you know i'm saying so

00:10:08.000 you know in what way is the father jesus's father literally okay do you think that mary is the

00:10:14.500 mother of jesus yeah she's the human mother of jesus so is mary the mother of god no because

00:10:21.520 jesus is not god jesus is not god no no do you pray to jesus no i don't i mean you can that's

00:10:29.440 fine jesus says anything that you ask me i will do it right so you can pray to jesus because jesus

00:10:34.760 has been given the authority of the father right now thought the father has given jesus all

00:10:40.160 authority over heaven and earth and so if you approach jesus as you would approach the father

00:10:46.800 this is still appropriate this is fine but me personally i prayed the way jesus taught us to

00:10:53.080 pray jesus taught us to pray for the father so you what were you saying earlier about jesus that

00:11:00.240 have me confused jesus is the lord of the universe i from what it sounded like early yeah

00:11:06.640 yeah jesus is a master of all things right he's been put in that except god right he is under god

00:11:14.080 and everything else is under jesus okay and so jesus is the king of the king of the world

00:11:22.760 you know i'm saying he's been put in a position of authority and power over all of existence

00:11:26.880 the only thing that has not been put in that position is the father the one who put those

00:11:32.600 things under him okay so jesus prayed so you you pray to god i do pray to god yes and you

00:11:40.880 believe there's one god i do and jesus was a was a prophet yes masha'Allah

00:11:52.000 hmm what does that mean that means praise god it says it sounds like you're a muslim

00:11:58.040 well no but i'm not though because you you know you reject that jesus is the son of god

00:12:05.180 not the bible tells us clearly that um you know anyone who rejects that jesus is a son of god

00:12:11.340 uh does not have god and so i believe that jesus is a son of god as muslims do not

00:12:17.220 i mean i believe god really has a son you know how like one day you hope to literally have a son

00:12:23.740 i believe god literally has a son and that person is jesus before he became jesus the human he

00:12:29.840 existed as an elohim in heaven alongside his father right as a god as a deity alongside his

00:12:36.340 father then he took on the form of a human being incarnated in the womb of his mother mary being

00:12:41.820 born as a human living his life died on the cross resurrected from the dead into another a new spirit

00:12:48.720 body right that hold on you're lagging you're lagging quite a bit don i'm gonna i'm gonna try

00:12:53.660 to restart the call it's like you're cooking but it's lagging i'm gonna i'll call you right back

00:12:58.900 is he cooking yes or no chat wait before i go back to the call muslims correct me if i'm wrong

00:13:06.000 but in the quran aren't we all technically god's children doesn't that still follow his

00:13:14.180 line of logic his line of logic is pretty much him saying that jesus is the only child of god

00:13:20.780 but in islam we're all pretty much we're god's creation so and you can metaphorically say no

00:13:28.200 no no no no god has no sons okay no no so we don't all count as god's children

00:13:34.920 we're all god's creation but children's a weird okay fine

00:13:38.840 real quick just click that like button toss you none very quick and easy to do and it makes a

00:13:47.300 world of a difference let's make this a legendary stream let's make this a fun stream let's make

00:13:51.700 this a stream that you know we can all learn from you know i hope to learn something from this stream

00:13:56.520 you know i'm saying so yeah but yeah brother you're lagging though uh don i don't know what's

00:14:02.480 going on you got that i'm lagging on your end i don't know because my stream says that i'm not

00:14:07.380 lagging on their end and you're not lagging on my end either like you're coming through very clear

00:14:11.560 like no black at all all right hold up let me i'll just close i don't know i don't know maybe

00:14:17.320 have that hebrew israelite internet i don't know what's going on with you i'm gonna yeah

00:14:21.100 great to that uh that halal internet huh okay i'm closing some stuff is it better now chat

00:14:28.640 it's weird yo i don't understand maybe all right i'm gonna i'm gonna close discord and rejoin i

00:14:39.100 don't know what's going on

00:14:40.280 see you can't judge as a muslim because you send just i don't send well i try my best

00:14:52.740 and who's judging who i didn't judge it did i judge

00:14:57.460 whatever is going on hold up let's uh get back in there and turn on camera how are you doing now

00:15:06.760 much better mashallah are you better all better all better awesome awesome okay yeah i i also

00:15:13.040 restarted discord so i don't know if that helped yeah that seems like it's better cool um more

00:15:17.920 thank you ryan for the 10 we're his children the only one begotten son though god pulled apart of

00:15:23.740 his own spirit to make christ so so you you you're acknowledging that christ that there's divinity

00:15:31.260 in christ but he's not god do you okay so is jesus in in your definition was jesus a demigod

00:15:38.460 no he's a deity he is a um see the bible tells us that there are beings that we're the title of

00:15:47.900 deity as a result they're heavenly beings right and this is not unique to a unitarian position

00:15:53.380 you got youtubers like inspiring philosophy you also got you know phd accredited very famous like

00:15:59.760 trinitarian scholars like michael heiser will tell you that you know once i was like zirka zirka are

00:16:05.800 you here i think he's trying to join sorry to interrupt you but yeah he's trying to join

00:16:12.540 yeah so i actually have you know um a number of verses here where the bible makes it clear that

00:16:20.200 there are other beings that wear the title of god because to be a god is to be an elohim

00:16:24.780 right is to be a divine being a heavenly being um it is also used for beings in positions of

00:16:31.700 authority and so yeah jesus was a deity right he was he was divine it's not a demigod because he

00:16:38.660 was uh fully a deity right the bible tells us in second corinthians chapter i just found your new

00:16:44.880 account circle okay okay yeah no problem second corinthians chapter four verse four tells us that

00:16:51.840 satan is the god of this world right so why is that you know well satan is in a position of

00:16:57.820 authority over this world and he's also um a divine being right he's a he's a heavenly being

00:17:03.360 and so he checks off both of those boxes and yeah jesus similarly was in a position of authority

00:17:12.480 and as well as you know being a heavenly being prior to his incarnation w wifey with the with

00:17:18.980 the snacks man i need to get married like that that's that's what i'm talking about man all

00:17:22.240 this red pill stuff with 50 women 50 hoes look at that you see that sandwich being delivered

00:17:26.740 that's a halal relationship right there that's what i'm talking about look at that bite that

00:17:30.580 home-cooked meal man that's the mother of his kids beautiful stuff man

00:17:34.040 you're gonna get it soon bro soon soon soon inshallah thank you for the 20 kings bird if

00:17:40.240 jesus was the hand of god would he be god no yet he is still a part of god and said think of the

00:17:44.460 trinity like the family unit father mother and son god is all and parts okay who's the mother

00:17:49.860 uh i don't know see now the now they're saying mary's part of the trinity i thought it was holy

00:17:55.180 spirit christians are not consistent with this i'm not gonna lie i think it's 20 christian

00:17:58.720 another five from uh son only if you do not really mean it literally when they say son in the bible

00:18:04.460 they mean it as righteous chosen human by god there are many sons in the bible behind jesus

00:18:08.920 okay so this guy al martin in the chat is saying that in the bible doesn't literally mean son

00:18:13.840 it means a righteous chosen human by god there are many sons i don't know um here i'll show you

00:18:20.960 this um okay let me look for a verse okay zirka's dm'ing me on twitter right now instead of joining

00:18:31.540 He's difficult to work with.

00:18:34.820 Yeah, I don't know.

00:18:35.800 Maybe Zerka is getting cold feet.

00:18:39.560 Is he ducking?

00:18:40.800 I don't know.

00:18:41.820 Chad, why is Zerka ducking, man?

00:18:48.360 Let me see.

00:18:49.580 Let me find you a verse.

00:18:50.660 I know I have one in here.

00:18:53.800 I'm in my notes.

00:18:56.420 Okay.

00:18:58.860 John 3, 16.

00:19:00.180 John 3, 16.

00:19:00.980 it says it clearly for god to love the world that he gave his only son right his only son okay yeah

00:19:07.780 that he's literally his son in fact there's so much effort in the bible made to distinguish how

00:19:13.780 jesus is different from us and how jesus is different from angels in terms of the relationship

00:19:18.300 between these beings and god right um the angels in the old testament are called the sons of god

00:19:25.480 but then we see the bible going through great length to say how you know to whom has god ever

00:19:31.480 said ye are my son right i'm paraphrasing so point is jesus is literally god's son

00:19:38.520 um that's just one verse so is he wrong are there no other sons in the bible

00:19:42.700 yeah jesus is god's only begotten son jesus is the only being born of god right everything else

00:19:52.660 was created the bible at least this is how i understand it bible doesn't go super in depth

00:19:58.260 in how jesus was begotten you know prior to the incarnation but

00:20:06.020 you know um the bible sets a precedent of how beings beget light beings right so humans beget

00:20:12.340 humans birds beget birds you know and the father begot his son jesus but um yeah okay

00:20:22.500 now he's in but i don't know if he's joining maybe he's uh maybe he's he's loading um which

00:20:27.400 means doing cocaine in the bathroom i'm not sure if he's uh so so what's your major i wanted to ask

00:20:33.620 this when he was in but what's your major point of contention is it the trend is it the holy spirit

00:20:37.620 that throws you off no uh my major contention with the trinity is what it does to christians

00:20:44.740 it's not it i don't i don't really particularly mind if someone believes that jesus is god i'll

00:20:50.760 give you an analogy it's kind of like uh let's say you give your son the authority to accept

00:20:57.380 the package on your behalf right and then the ups guy shows up and you sign off for that package and

00:21:04.280 the ups guy believes that you are your father right ultimately the package is still received

00:21:12.840 the person treated you how they were supposed to treat you they were supposed to treat you with

00:21:17.520 the same respect as if you were your father they just made the error of a mistaken identity but

00:21:24.380 it's not to any detriment right because he still treated you with that same respect that you wanted

00:21:29.400 him to be treated with anyway it's the same thing with god right god wants us to honor the son even

00:21:34.740 as we honor the father right he wants us to obey the son as we obey the father and so when people

00:21:41.300 when people all authority has been given to christ right all things have been given to him

00:21:46.900 And so when people pray to Christ and assert that he is, you know, equal to the Father, right, in an absolute way, or they say that, you know, the Trinity is true, just that idea alone really does not pose a risk to you, like your walk with God.

00:22:04.040 What is problematic about the Trinity is that I've found that it makes people incredibly religious and unloving to other people who meet the standards of being a brother in Christ.

00:22:16.900 And this, I believe, can potentially be a salvation issue because if you don't have love, you have nothing.

00:22:24.900 The Bible makes that incredibly clear.

00:22:26.460 If you're not loving to other people, it doesn't matter what your doctrine or your theology is.

00:22:32.780 And the people, I found that people subscribe to the Trinity, you know, not all, of course, but many, they become very, you know, they start making very bad mistakes in how they treat their brethren.

00:22:45.500 um you know romans chapter 10 verse 9 they contradict it romans romans chapter 10 verse

00:22:51.760 9 says clearly anyone who confesses that jesus christ is lord right um and that he was raised

00:22:59.340 from the dead you know um he shall be saved they they contradict this right romans 10 if you

00:23:05.260 confess with their mouth jesus is lord and believe that in your heart that god raised him from the

00:23:10.560 dead you'll be saved lord means master by the way kurios or adonai doesn't mean god so yeah

00:23:17.080 yeah how's that sandwich looking well yeah it's just some burger with some cheese on it

00:23:22.820 is it a halal beef or is that just store-bought whole foods haram

00:23:27.760 haram what do you mean you got to eat that halal beef that has to be killed properly so there's

00:23:33.200 no adrenochrome see a lot of a lot of the cows that they kill if it's not halal it's not killed

00:23:38.160 properly because who's on my door you just got to eat beef without any of the adrenochrome but

00:23:43.460 it seems like zerk is not ducking anymore z's in the chat if he's joining yeah i saw something

00:23:48.420 moving on his camera oh there he is a cocaine crusader himself

00:23:53.980 uh-huh hold on how do i get both of y'all up on the screen

00:23:59.780 zerk i can't hear you by the way

00:24:04.360 oh shoot i didn't realize i was supposed to bring my glasses

00:24:13.800 what happened he's not working

00:24:21.540 hey

00:24:26.040 yo chat why are they lagging like a motherfucker man

00:24:31.020 chat it's not it cannot be my internet

00:24:40.540 let me i'm gonna i'm gonna restart it one more time

00:24:46.640 i'm gonna restart it one more time maybe if i um i'm gonna disable there's probably too much

00:24:56.080 going on i'm gonna disable my camera and then

00:25:10.560 i can't hear dawn it's output

00:25:21.520 Hello wait why can't these guys hear me there we can hear you good all right okay yeah sorry

00:25:40.600 I'm late um we do introductions first right Zerker why see you're the only one who's not

00:25:46.680 black here but you shut up on black people time don't do that don't say that that's not a thing

00:25:50.940 stop it that's racist that's racist that's like saying zirka's a nigga that's racist whoa

00:25:57.000 don you're just gonna let him get away with that i'm not the n-word police what's up zirka how

00:26:02.740 you doing brother hey don you're one of the only channels i ever followed because i don't watch

00:26:07.660 shit uh when you had that abortion debate with those two black cucks what were their names on

00:26:11.840 twitch your age oh well like your age emotional one what's the emotional one name yeah no so i

00:26:20.000 don't i don't agree that i wouldn't label him like that but his name was i'm dante so oh so

00:26:25.700 he's not a fegat huh no not no in fact i think he just uh just sound like one he's trying to kill

00:26:31.760 babies in the womb yeah you know it's uh it's it's it's unfortunate that a lot of people believe

00:26:38.120 that that's cool but you know i'm saying did you ever at one point in time believe abortion was

00:26:44.060 cool oh yeah i was an idiot yeah so when did you think abortion was cool well pretty much my whole

00:26:54.540 life like remember i lost my virginity like a month away from turning 21 so i never really had

00:27:00.500 the problem of oh i get someone pregnant but 2016 i was i was uh for hillary clinton oh really no

00:27:07.980 i swear to god i was the only one in my family everyone else was more moderate but uh yeah

00:27:14.720 wait why before we get into the debate why were you for hillary clinton i can't even

00:27:19.320 i'm just loyal to like i'm loyal to clinton foundation for saving my life

00:27:24.480 uh but that's before i had god okay but now you know that they were farming children for

00:27:30.100 their body parts and they had a human trafficking ring in haiti right

00:27:32.620 you get saved by demons you say thanks and move on okay there's a little bit of an echo circuit

00:27:39.640 you got headphones uh are you sure is it that bad are you being dramatic are you being dramatic

00:27:47.680 i'm not don is it bad for you i'm not hearing an echo all right i think it's fine it went away

00:27:52.100 okay so people upstairs shut the fuck up okay they're quiet so this is finally the trinity

00:28:00.100 the debate i've been excited to host this for a while i'm going to moderate this i'm not going to

00:28:04.780 really pick sides even though i think you understand uh zirka and i we've gone back and

00:28:08.140 forth about the trinity young don has recently rejected the trinity and zirka is a strong

00:28:12.640 defender the sword of christianity as he calls himself and so i would like to be able to first

00:28:18.000 before we get into the debate i want to understand where we're at with the belief of the trinity don

00:28:22.580 i'm a little more confused about than zirka zirka i think he is a traditional catholic so he says

00:28:27.800 and then we can figure out so yes so dot first what are you what are your what's your point of

00:28:36.660 contention with the trinity i don't agree with it why why i don't think the bible supports the

00:28:45.400 doctrine of the trinity i think there's a stronger argument for the trinity not being true than there

00:28:51.080 is for it being true hey here's let's take the gloves off because i heard you're trying to

00:28:57.960 brainwash chat earlier i don't think we're going to be friends we're going to do debates and stuff

00:29:02.280 but uh i don't want to hold back okay you're a fucking retard you're not you're telling me

00:29:09.240 there's no there's 500 fucking verses that support the trinity it's like the most debated topic for

00:29:15.400 thousands of years and you're saying nah you got it you don figured it out more than every single

00:29:21.100 cleric saint every single genius throughout history you figured it out because some fucking

00:29:26.220 crypto muslim guy dm'd you some fucking voodoo magic he's like hey here's some fucking camel

00:29:32.920 dust uh jesus is actually the sun are you fucking joking i don't even if we did a proper debate

00:29:38.800 where i bring my footnotes i'd wipe the floor with you i'm not even prepared but i'm gonna win

00:29:44.760 in my first opening statement okay so i think i'm not sure if that was an opening statement

00:29:50.700 i'm not done okay but we're doing opening statements before you're not opening i was

00:29:55.160 i'm asking don what he believes what his faith is and before we start going with the insults

00:30:00.360 let's establish he's with satan fuck what he believes here's my opening statement ready

00:30:04.940 don first don first i i want to see what we understand don don we understand what you

00:30:11.760 believe zirka don if you could please explain what you believe yeah i don't believe in the trinity

00:30:18.360 so that's pretty much i believe jesus is the son of god i believe that there is one god the father

00:30:23.400 and uh yeah i believe that the father is above uh jesus the father is the most high god the bible

00:30:31.800 clearly tells us that the most high god there is no other god above him jesus calls the father his

00:30:36.460 god which means that there's a god above him and so yeah and there are many verses in the new

00:30:42.520 testament that use the word god that zirka would agree cannot apply to jesus so oh give me a break

00:30:49.040 i heard what you said earlier but well done what are you trying to say that he's just a prophet

00:30:53.340 and a man um no i just know what i said this is where you start choking this is where all you

00:30:59.640 fucking fake christians start choking because you don't want to give it all the way like oh he's

00:31:03.280 just a man and a prophet so what is he like some demigod like what are you trying to give him

00:31:07.440 no he's the son of god right so he's the risen christ is he a man is he human on earth 100%

00:31:13.900 he's human that's what the bible says if he's 100% human how the fuck was he 100% sinless

00:31:20.180 um how was he 100% you fucking lost clown get the fuck off the internet

00:31:24.680 you done yet human a human a human can be sinless you read the bible that's fucking impossible

00:31:33.280 right well jesus is not just any human he's also the son of god right and so he has special

00:31:39.640 circumstances it's that simple holy cow are you lagging what's up with your fucking piece of shit

00:31:46.600 it's lagging a little bit so before we didn't get into it yet i want to hear your opening

00:31:50.800 statement zirka but let's uh let me let me try to see it's not my wi-fi it's something with this

00:31:57.320 hold on a second yeah it's legal maybe fix it

00:32:01.960 l stream l stream l stream l stream okay i'm back can you hear me brother yeah all good okay

00:32:12.860 so zirka what's your opening statement right so snico like you i know you're not supposed to pick

00:32:19.220 a side but isn't it a retard retarded position he's giving uh because i what do you believe in

00:32:25.520 the holy spirit at least do i believe in the holy spirit yeah of course well really okay oh that's

00:32:33.640 kind of weird do you believe the holy spirit charged jesus to make him demigod where he can

00:32:38.820 be sinless as a human dude what do you think human means are you fucking uh sneaker can a human be

00:32:45.840 sinless let me ask you something was there a point in time where adam was sinless

00:32:49.780 yes yes yes okay was adam a human yes oh no no he wasn't he was an astral being you were

00:33:00.420 they are humans they are a man when they fall from grace well yeah so adam was a human

00:33:08.160 clearly tells us right sure described as a human but a human in paradise

00:33:14.540 is the same as sneaker on earth you fucking stupid what's the difference i'm i'm a little

00:33:22.320 what's the difference what's the difference between what sneaker on paradise and in a

00:33:30.100 christian paradise or sneaker here on earth what is the difference what is the biggest difference

00:33:34.020 difference between sneaker in the kingdom of heaven you mean in his resurrection body so

00:33:41.060 you activated you activated my trap guard jesus was on earth nigga right sinless no adam no no no

00:33:50.900 no it's ad where was adam and eve when they were humans and sinless where all right so luke wants

00:33:56.360 okay you're you're yelling hola hola hola hola before before we go back and forth about this

00:34:06.680 okay if you want to read your opening statements you're doing a lot of yelling and you're you're

00:34:10.200 making this difficult to moderate you know i want one answer we haven't even we haven't even

00:34:25.800 one no zirka we haven't even got to establish conversation you said yourself you have an

00:34:31.140 opening statement i allowed don to give his opening statements and now it's your turn

00:34:34.060 who sir what are you talking about do you have an opening statement you just said you were going

00:34:40.140 to destroy him yeah i will i will but i just want to ask if adam and eve are human sure i agree with

00:34:46.720 you but they're in paradise we're talking about jesus who's on earth being sinless no no no hold

00:34:52.800 on hold on hold on you're what you're saying no no hold on let me finish let me finish bro my nigga

00:34:57.920 chill you're saying you're literally making the argument that if adam and eve were not

00:35:03.020 fallen from grace if they were on earth that they too had the possibility to be like jesus sinless

00:35:09.260 on grass on earth that's your argument you fucking retard do you agree you think adam and eve could

00:35:15.160 walk on earth no no answer this do you agree adam and eve can walk on earth not paradise earth

00:35:20.320 sinless where was the garden of eden oh are you gonna answer anything where was it yeah it was

00:35:27.180 on earth they were on earth the garden of eden was on earth that's a muslim idea that paradise

00:35:33.540 was i know you used to be a muslim so you must have gotten hold on what do you think falling

00:35:38.060 from grace means what do you mean falling from grace well it depends on the context that you're

00:35:43.900 using that i want to know from you uh what what what kind of christian are you could you could

00:35:49.380 you give me a could you give me a verse like so i can pin it down to context when the bible talks

00:35:56.160 about the material world right right this devilish world it's not the same world as adam and eve's

00:36:03.040 garden to you it is then what the fuck changed what do you what do you think makes this world

00:36:08.600 wicked sin all right what is sin from satan right right and the bible tells us sin is the

00:36:17.840 transgression of the law it's not the literal earth itself that you walk upon that makes people

00:36:22.940 sinful right when it says the world is wicked it's talking about the behavior idiot i didn't say grass

00:36:29.000 is why oh stop stop i'm at a good point please okay you didn't say grass it's good it's good

00:36:38.840 yeah don i know you're really this could be i since you're intelligent there's no way you just

00:36:46.040 made that argument that means you're a snake you you know i don't mean the grass is hard to be

00:36:51.220 sinless on the grass i'm saying when temptation is in the world now when humans fall from grace

00:36:56.660 when adam and eve fell from grace your position is adam eve and jesus would all have the same

00:37:03.900 fucking power level on earth after sin spreads everywhere that's your position that they can

00:37:09.860 all be sinless that's fucking retarded eve is a woman too all right you're catholic don't you

00:37:16.480 believe mary never sinned no no answer mine answer mine yeah i mean that you've been you've been

00:37:24.000 pitting him with questions you've been pitting him with questions you can't answer one question

00:37:27.720 no no all you gotta say is yes or no are they equal adam even jesus if they all felt from grace

00:37:33.780 right if they all on earth right would you say they're all would you say they all have they all

00:37:40.480 have the power to be sinless like jesus adam and eve yes adam and eve were sinless right for a

00:37:47.460 period of time we do agree about it yo sneaker is not answering it can i ask sneaker you're

00:37:54.040 interrupting him before he's even able to explain a point and you're pinning him with questions and

00:37:57.840 forcing him to answer questions he's asking he's asking you one question he's asking you one

00:38:02.820 question you're not able to answer it i'm sure what is my question sneaker let's see if you're

00:38:07.000 listening what was my question to you were asking if adam mary if they were all equal if they were

00:38:11.740 all sinless not mary eve and adam eve adam sure so but we need to be we need to be fair we need

00:38:19.680 to be fair but you're yelling before i it's hard to follow exactly where you haven't even started

00:38:23.900 your opening statement i'm winning winning what winning what we haven't even established the

00:38:29.360 debate yet you're just yelling at him and calling him a retard do you want this to be somewhat

00:38:32.620 if the retard just says yes john adam and eve have the potential to be sinless like jesus if

00:38:40.560 he bites the bullet here i'll shut the fuck up but that fucking coward won't this fucking

00:38:44.500 antichrist won't do it so like i said adam and eve were sinless for a period of time

00:38:48.940 i think we both agree about that right so we see examples of humans being sinless we also see

00:38:54.500 examples in the scriptures of people being sinless for periods of time well i'm gonna echo

00:39:00.880 okay you're back you're back you're closing we also see period like examples so for instance if

00:39:05.340 we turn to uh the book of job right job 1 1 um are you are you cool to pull up bible verses

00:39:12.700 yeah i've got some i've got some handy but i want to do a second debate where i have all my footnotes

00:39:18.560 and it's less loud this one's like the trailer but i really thought you'd win this one since i

00:39:23.620 didn't prepare i don't know that you fucking suck but i think we should do two debates one with all

00:39:28.200 my notes organized so then you can have a lot more fun and yeah go ahead okay but let's stay

00:39:32.900 on topic now you did send me a bunch of stuff before you did do some preparation you're sending

00:39:37.120 me these paragraphs i have my real notes when i say go ahead sneaker i'm talking to him not you

00:39:41.660 okay but we need to moderate because you're making this unprofessional

00:39:44.480 i'm giving him you're interrupting him i want to hear him sneak do you have do you have your

00:39:50.880 opening statement yes or no yes it's very short go ahead but it's gonna kill the stream

00:39:58.100 because uh he's gonna lose here fun young is it dom or don yeah young don we take off the shades

00:40:09.380 we taking off the glasses okay cool let me tell you something dude i can feel i can feel

00:40:17.300 do you feel you're more certain you believe in god than me at least no no i think i think you have

00:40:24.720 you have a very genuine fire for god and actually you know despite the things you said about me i

00:40:30.820 actually find you pretty interesting you know i i think you're a very open-minded person with a

00:40:35.060 genuine fire for god which is why i'm even having this conversation with you because if you were

00:40:39.160 able to like wait wait okay whoa so you're not gonna do that thing where you're like oh you're

00:40:45.540 a sinner zirka you actually think i'm i'm not a grifter no i believe it's a genuine fire for god

00:40:51.460 but you know oh yeah yeah yeah no okay yeah i do oh wow yeah you're intelligent as fuck

00:40:59.860 i can tell you're intelligent as well like you know the first clip i ever saw of you was you

00:41:04.820 um you know call me gay for not believing in trinity and nobody likes that to be how you

00:41:09.920 get introduced to someone but then i actually went and watched your videos and listened to you speak

00:41:13.960 i could tell you're intelligent i could tell you have a genuine fire for god um you know we just

00:41:18.980 understand certain things differently and i think that you know um you know i think it would

00:41:25.960 what kills me about you why i get so angry when i see you right it's not like i hate black people

00:41:33.140 i get angry because i go you were a christian as a big time youtuber which is very like

00:41:38.580 based in the chat right loving god as a youtuber nobody does that but that means you argued for

00:41:44.840 the trinity for years probably that's what kills me it's like you were me you i know you argued

00:41:50.860 the trinity didn't you oh well i never really got into debates about the trinity i just believed in

00:41:57.320 it because you know that's kind of the what you get that's a starter package of becoming a christian

00:42:02.960 that's one of the first pieces of doctrine that they just tell you to believe is true

00:42:06.240 it's so foundational it's so elementary that it's also one you're very not likely to question

00:42:12.980 but you know i just went through a period where i started testing certain ideas and i time and

00:42:19.980 time again i kept finding myself coming to different conclusions and so eventually

00:42:24.140 who got you there who told you to start testing and experimenting with like who's your friend

00:42:29.480 what's the youtuber so no nobody in particular um it started with me testing the concept of

00:42:37.140 i think it was a rapture i don't know where you stand on the rapture you believe in a rapture

00:42:41.460 yeah but not not not like it's happening tomorrow i'm not one of those guys right you believe jesus

00:42:47.520 is going to come back first right absolutely right okay so yeah so that's the that's the

00:42:53.200 position i hold that's a post-tribulation rapture but what is very popular in mainstream christianity

00:42:58.520 is the pre-tribulation rapture that we're just going to get blinked out of existence right people

00:43:02.960 believe in god and then we'll come to tribulation and then jesus comes back after that that was what

00:43:08.060 I believe that's what is very popular in mainstream Christianity. And then somebody in my chat

00:43:12.880 challenged me on it. And, you know, I was like, yeah, this guy don't know what you're talking

00:43:18.380 about. But all right, I'll look into it. And so I seriously looked into it. And then I came to the

00:43:22.680 conclusion that it was false. And that was my first moment where I realized, oh, just because

00:43:27.800 the guy I listened to is well spoken and went to seminary school and, you know, has a PhD and all

00:43:34.300 this stuff doesn't mean he knows everything and so i was like okay well if this isn't true what

00:43:40.340 else do i believe is not true hold on one sec one sec

00:43:44.280 yeah don't mind sneaker i don't know what's going on with his camera but

00:43:52.040 yeah it's just like you're stable on my end am i stable on your end yeah yeah i just want him to

00:43:58.360 capture the whole thing because uh i think you and i are like i'm i'm not gonna lie dude i don't

00:44:03.360 want to do it on sneaker's thing you've seen my clips you've seen me quote scripture from memory

00:44:08.700 and tie it up better than most fucking clerics i'm in it for real i really believe andrew tate

00:44:14.800 is a fake muslim and i don't want to just say it just to bring up the name for clickbait but

00:44:19.540 i really appreciate that you could see it you know like you have some fucking soul left in you that

00:44:24.100 you can see i'm not doing this for fucking just chill with sneaker on these fucking debates

00:44:28.620 because it is hard scripture is like that's homework bro give me give me one second

00:44:32.160 this we're acting up today man

00:44:38.520 uh yeah i could make so much money just focusing on my date iq and dating and women

00:44:49.040 but you know the god thing that gets you fucking banned and hurt and stuff like that

00:44:53.460 you know i could focus on the money but i don't want to and for four years straight you could go

00:44:58.340 to my first vod on twitch all i do is talk about god my my second my even when they told me to

00:45:04.000 stop on those fucking raj patel dating shows i never stopped but i would never say christ back

00:45:08.280 then you know i was like lukewarm but here's the thing my issue is do you believe that you can

00:45:15.060 reason yourself to any position like uh let's say you can you can find it reasonable to be trans and

00:45:22.280 cut your dick off because some people circumcise themselves that's already some flesh why not some

00:45:27.180 more you can reason anything how the fuck did one cuck in your chat get you to reason out of the

00:45:33.720 trinity that for thousands of years even before the papacy everything it's it's been established

00:45:40.360 by bigger brains than you and more loyal brains to the cross than you you threw you threw the

00:45:47.640 whole timeline of christianity away for some fucking faggot in chat yeah no so it wasn't a

00:45:54.720 guy in the chat brother it was just me of my own um you said it's me you said it's me i beat

00:46:02.540 fucking the timeline of christianity i figured out myself that's luciferian retard shit okay so

00:46:08.760 the bible clearly tells us that we don't need any teachers right it sounds to me that you hold

00:46:13.720 you know the ideas of these like men to like a high standard where you feel like you agree with

00:46:21.220 again i hate when christians do the bible said you don't need teachers but 90 of the bible is

00:46:27.160 talking about how your kids gotta worship god before fucking father and mother that's teaching

00:46:35.920 prayer worship must be taught prayer must be taught the whole bible is about the family unit

00:46:42.900 and teaching them to be religious you're telling me you picked out one fucking verse it's talking

00:46:49.200 about teachers like those lgbt and shit are you telling me like you can just grab the bible and

00:46:54.260 start saying actually jesus is a half god like sinless but he's not god you can't just grab the

00:47:00.840 bible and start fucking doing your own voodoo magic with it what the fuck yeah don what was

00:47:05.060 the point that convinced you that the trinity wasn't real uh you know there are several verses

00:47:10.180 in the bible it was a compilation of things right it took a process a little bit more than a month

00:47:15.740 of me like putting in hours every day like studying it listening to debates i'm a muslim

00:47:21.940 right at least because they got dude muslims when they die they get 72 virgins means they're still

00:47:28.040 inflicted with sin okay if you're gonna pin in four people answer questions then let don answer

00:47:32.740 the question before you interrupt just for those fucking losers in your chat all right so how about

00:47:39.300 was it first corinthians 8 6 i mean this is like a pretty um clear verse first corinthians uh 8 6

00:47:48.260 says but to us there is but one god the father of whom are all things and we in him and one lord

00:47:54.300 jesus christ by whom are all things and we by him and so it tells pretty clearly that there is one

00:48:00.200 god and that god is the father so a verse like that you know um there are verses like that for

00:48:05.940 instance would you say would you say that verse is 100 clear of course not because it's been

00:48:10.460 debated for thousands of years you would say that that verse is 70 percent you're 70 percent don't

00:48:17.980 say don't you dare you're telling me the average joe who reads that will say 100 right they're

00:48:23.740 different there's a distinct no you know that you're 70 sure it means split you're splitting

00:48:30.940 it it's two two different persons right it's pretty clear to me how clear give me a percentage

00:48:36.460 how clear give me a real no no no no good stop no no no every human on earth sneaker turn that

00:48:45.180 fucking shit off it's you saw me dummy and now you flipped me as a dumbass fuck you turn this

00:48:52.860 off bro i'm gonna block someone and donna do want you to go back when he fixes that he

00:49:00.700 no no hold on hold on what was i saying don just refresh me hold on yeah you were saying you you

00:49:05.940 didn't agree with me that it's so clear yeah no no give me so do you let me just ask you do

00:49:11.660 christians and humans struggle with faith yes or no uh yeah for sure do they struggle a lot or a

00:49:17.880 little i mean everybody struggles i imagine a lot or a little a lot or a little i mean brother

00:49:24.740 you're using a lot or a little is it a lot is it medium what is it i mean i can't speak for

00:49:29.340 everyone zirka no no for the general population it's a lot i can say that i've had some very

00:49:35.040 hard battles with my faith that i can say so so stop fucking lying to me if you just admit

00:49:40.560 you have severe struggles with faith like most humans then stop saying that verse no no no hold

00:49:46.540 on man shut the fuck up you just yes please you just admit you struggle with faith which is fair

00:49:54.260 we all do so stop saying that oh yo let me finish bro what are you a fucking woman you just admit

00:50:01.500 you struggle with faith then you said that verse is a hundred percent you're a hundred percent

00:50:06.200 certain you know what it means is that you struggle or you a hundred percent pick one

00:50:10.440 so you're saying struggling you're equating struggling with faith with understanding words

00:50:15.700 you know i'm saying that's not what i mean when they struggle with faith struggle with

00:50:19.880 No, no, no, Zerka, let him finish his sentence.

00:50:23.640 You've been interrupting the entire time.

00:50:25.320 This is not, this is stupid.

00:50:26.380 You're cooking this ass.

00:50:27.280 You're going viral.

00:50:28.520 Yelling doesn't mean cooking.

00:50:29.860 Don, please finish.

00:50:31.420 Yeah, so when you said struggling with faith,

00:50:33.740 I thought you meant, you know,

00:50:35.120 struggling to do what we know we're supposed to do

00:50:37.480 as we're instructed by Jesus.

00:50:39.420 Yeah, I think everybody struggles with that.

00:50:41.360 But if you're talking about just like

00:50:43.080 understanding the words in the book,

00:50:44.880 I mean, do you struggle to understand John 3.16, for instance?

00:50:47.900 oh do you struggle to understand where he sits right of the father how can g how can god sit to

00:50:54.640 the right of himself that's been pondered for thousands of years you're telling me we can't

00:50:59.480 struggle with reading scripture are you fucking the position you want to take and listen you can

00:51:06.580 struggle with this verse is clear to me there is one you like you're lucifer bro you just read the

00:51:13.780 verse and know it better than anyone on earth no there are millions of people around the world

00:51:17.700 that agree with me there are millions of people around the world that agree with me the problem

00:51:21.740 is you fucking influencer youtubers think you know it all because you have millions of followers

00:51:26.040 i don't think bro bro i'm telling no you talk like you do you said you have a hundred percent

00:51:31.480 conviction that you know that verse better than a cleric priest anyone let me ask you something

00:51:36.200 do you have a hundred percent hold on hold on do you think a bishop would answer how you did

00:51:42.060 no bishop would say i know a hundred percent that verse what you're saying is so satanic man

00:51:47.800 no you asked me if i do you have a hundred percent confidence that jesus is god

00:51:54.160 absolutely okay so what's the difference the difference is i have evidence

00:52:00.420 no okay i have evidence okay how about i just start with the kill shot should i finish you

00:52:06.460 for right now and before when he after the kill shot uh don i do want you to to ask that question

00:52:15.580 that he avoided earlier about uh if mary was sinless because zirka says he's capital let me

00:52:21.740 charge my power level okay locked and loaded sneaker it's going to be a short stream because

00:52:32.840 if he chokes and he's gonna choke he's gonna start stuttering don't sneak up you every time

00:52:37.220 you have a guest on you try and save them and you sound you look like a faggot when you do that cut

00:52:40.800 that fucking that's what moderation is supposed to be instead of instead of yelling insults do

00:52:45.800 you see how don is actually ready to have a debate no it's not about burning the bridge

00:52:50.940 don't save him when i shoot i knew that you were gonna act this way he actually came

00:52:55.680 trying to be professional somewhat you've been yelling and interrupting the entire time

00:52:59.880 it's not that i'm trying to side or it has nothing to do with networking i actually want to have

00:53:04.140 somewhat of a conversation that's worth listening to over just yelling and insulting i'm saying he's

00:53:09.600 doing perfect you're doing a bad job because sneaker you always interrupt when when i interrupt

00:53:14.840 yes when shake when i asked shake is telling me that i interrupt

00:53:19.100 you're the moderator what's up man when shake was one i asked him what's the largest

00:53:25.780 name that uh do the kill shot you're derailing out what's the kill shot when i said when i said

00:53:32.340 to sheikh usman what's the largest name of god and everyone knows it's jesus christ the largest

00:53:36.500 religion right he choked and you jumped in to save him with your dick riding faggot ass you're

00:53:41.960 not doing that with this guy sure this is black on black crime i'm finishing him in the first

00:53:46.240 if you're gonna say that it's based on numbers that more there's more christians than muslims

00:53:50.400 You're also saying that 99%

00:53:52.500 You yourself

00:53:53.540 Shut the fuck up Buddhist

00:53:55.880 It's a two on one

00:53:57.000 You were just talking to me

00:53:59.180 Let me respond to what you're saying

00:54:00.320 If you're going to say that there's more numbers of people

00:54:04.040 You said 99% of Christians are faggots

00:54:06.000 So if you're going to say that there's more

00:54:07.480 If that's evidence of God

00:54:08.800 You're arguing for him

00:54:12.640 As a moderator

00:54:13.420 The comment section is going to call you a faggot

00:54:16.060 It's not about the comment section

00:54:17.600 I'm trying to have a conversation that's worth listening to

00:54:19.920 you're in this conversation i'm moderating it and then you keep attacking me when i'm you're

00:54:26.240 trying to bring me into the debate and then you criticize me when i answer are you here to debate

00:54:29.780 don or me are you gonna let me moderate i'm here to kill don ready

00:54:34.960 john one oh three zero i and the father are one

00:54:45.340 it's over host my channel yeah john chapter 17 verse uh 22 yeah that wasn't really there's a lot

00:54:57.360 of verses in the bible that that contradict that i've heard you know yeah all right so john chapter

00:55:02.500 17 verse 22 and the glory which thou gave us and the glory just joking and the glory which thou

00:55:10.820 gave us me i have given them and they may be one even as we are one so um here we can see that

00:55:17.900 jesus is saying that we will be one in the exact same way that he and the father is one but we're

00:55:23.380 not the same person and we don't hold on hold on answer this honestly if you love god which

00:55:31.020 one of our verses is the hundred percent clear cut clear cut and not ambiguous at all which one

00:55:38.280 is direct to the point no poetry allegory nothing which one be honest is direct truth be honest

00:55:47.760 i think they're both direct truth i think they're both

00:55:50.240 snake fuck you're a look how short mine was you lost the debate read yours again read yours

00:55:58.100 uh you're asking me to explain what again read your verse again so i can fucking do another

00:56:03.460 kill shot on you this is black on black crime yeah so you're talking about the father and the

00:56:09.220 son being one right read your verse so you can look like a clown read your verse again repeat it

00:56:16.120 yeah john chapter 17 verse 22 right and the glory which thou gavest me i have given them that they

00:56:22.880 may be one even as we are one i and the father are one did you confuse that yours is a fucking

00:56:33.280 oh my nigga ponder more you be honest which one is more clear cut yeah so just because

00:56:40.780 live to my face bro you know what's funny dude i'm not i'm not saying your verse is wrong in

00:56:48.900 your position i'm saying if you were to ask me the same question i would choose yeah the simple

00:56:53.740 verse that's very short is more clear cut every human on earth a child can understand mine so

00:57:00.400 what are you all right so tell me what does your verse mean

00:57:04.160 just like everywhere you look in the bible jesus and the father are equal

00:57:10.660 jesus father holy spirit the trinity is one what does that what does it mean for jesus and the

00:57:18.360 father to be one what do you want i'm asking you to answer your question what does it mean

00:57:26.820 that jesus and the father are one that it's one being like think of water it can be ice

00:57:34.700 it could be solid liquid gas that's the same shit okay so so when jesus says that we should be one

00:57:44.660 let's pretend that i believe exactly the same way you believed and so you would consider us both

00:57:49.380 brothers in christ and christians how would we be one like how jesus and the father and one in that

00:57:54.360 way right so wait before you ask let me let me fix it real quick

00:57:59.640 it again okay so you're saying when jesus says him and the father are one it means that they

00:58:09.160 are one being so when jesus says that he wants us to be one as he and the father are one does

00:58:15.360 that mean that we now become one being no it means we become saved wait but it says that we

00:58:23.520 would be one just as he and the father are one is the exact same way the exact same type of oneness

00:58:29.500 so how are we being we will join god in eternal everlasting paradise and be one with god like a

00:58:38.280 true family unit you fucking retard so how will we be one with god i answered you and you're

00:58:45.480 fucking choking no how will we be one with god i answered you in full you're doing that streamer

00:58:52.120 debate so you're saying you don't understand what i said all right so let me clarify just

00:58:59.420 to make sure that we're on the same page let him clarify before you interrupt for five seconds

00:59:05.940 i like it keep it going so just let him yo zirka shut up for five seconds

00:59:11.660 my nigga five seconds no slogans don please go so when you say that we will be one with god

00:59:19.240 meaning that we will be united with god we're in perfect harmony with god you're not saying that

00:59:23.480 we will literally be god right no okay well here it clearly says that we will be one exactly in

00:59:33.380 the same way that jesus and the father are one but you're saying that there are two different

00:59:39.260 kinds of oneness you're saying we'll be one in unity and harmony but him and jesus and the father

00:59:45.720 are one in being now let it finish those are two different kinds of oneness yet jesus says we will

00:59:53.700 be one in the exact same way now check it out because of your egotistical lucifer i know better

01:00:00.180 than everyone else on earth and faggotry you really do you know that the bible is the inspired

01:00:05.880 word of god it's not the direct fucking it's psychic revelations being written down meaning

01:00:11.300 you ponder debate right think about what you're saying you want john zirka to give you an absolute

01:00:17.460 god answer on that verse when i give you the most simple verse and you ran from it you gave me the

01:00:24.840 hard one and you want me to say don tell me what god is thinking are we going to be one with the

01:00:29.640 father in paradise or will we be one fused with him like some fused digimon your question is

01:00:37.200 literally saying i'm running from the truth of your verse circa to ponder a deeper mystery about

01:00:43.200 afterlife it's pathetic you think you're winning no so that's not done hold on hold on if i said

01:00:53.120 well i don't know do you know that i still win because of my verse you never even responded to

01:00:58.240 mine i didn't say no he did respond to it but your point of contention i didn't ask you shit

01:01:04.320 it's not about whether you ask me if i and i answered his in full so stop i answered yours

01:01:10.880 in full but i'll give you two answers that was my full answer my second answer would be i'm not god

01:01:15.620 i don't know and i'm not a bishop i'm not genius any answer i give you i still win because mine's

01:01:21.620 clear cut yours needs to be pondered how the fuck are you splitting jesus from the holy spirit from

01:01:27.800 the father with the most complicated verses when it literally says we're one nigga we're

01:01:34.320 fucking equal you want to run from god because you're some satanist fucking freak all right so

01:01:40.960 how about this then romans chapter 10 verse 9 if you confess with your mouth jesus is lord and

01:01:46.860 believe in your heart that god raised him from the dead you will be saved do you believe that

01:01:51.500 Yes, Jesus is the Word of God. Veiled in flesh. Get it, money?

01:01:58.380 So if I confess that Jesus is Lord, and I believe in my heart that God raised him from the dead, will I be saved?

01:02:05.020 Absolutely. Jesus is Lord in the chat, let's go!

01:02:08.780 So what's the problem here? According to you, I'll be saved even though I don't believe in the Trinity.

01:02:15.500 uh because you're actually pushing millions of your followers to islam you know you're doing

01:02:24.840 that you're pretending you're not being that fag bridge you are that's why you're not going

01:02:29.200 to be saved my nigga you're intentionally going hey i want to muddy the waters of this verse i

01:02:34.160 know better than the priest and the bishop and then and you know what's funny is i've seen your

01:02:38.520 debates i like you and stuff but you're not answering the question i did answer what the

01:02:44.660 fucked on tell him i answered i literally answered you he doesn't even pushing to islam that doesn't

01:02:49.740 have to we'll talk about the scripture and it doesn't have to do with his followers why don't

01:02:53.380 you ever ask him a question you fucking dumb buddhist faggot okay because i have asked him

01:02:58.060 questions too i asked i started the debate asked him a question and you didn't even want to answer

01:03:02.180 it i asked him what he believes about the trinity bro when you interrupt i lose the genius thought

01:03:08.880 when i interrupt you it's just nico hey don't be trans there's no genius thoughts in your brain so

01:03:12.980 genius thought is yelling retard and nigga the whole time one in the chat of sneaker's lowering

01:03:19.360 his own viewer count when he's tripping me up i'm literally cooking this kid to death

01:03:23.600 no you're derailing the conversation you're derailing the conversation and talking about

01:03:28.140 don and his previous debates don didn't even have a problem with my answer you did because

01:03:34.240 you're on some fucking faggot butthurt shit that that you can't hang in a debate like you get cooked

01:03:38.920 by destiny and don you're not really a debater either you're like i i i've never lost a fucking

01:03:44.920 theological debate you've lost a million of them i don't know why you think you're so smart

01:03:49.320 i'm asking don why do you think pondering on a more complicated verse is more important than

01:03:55.100 pondering on i and the father are one why are you so i don't get it like where does that come from

01:04:01.800 so i don't think either of those verses are particularly complicated um it is saying that

01:04:07.700 we're in the same way how you can clearly understand in fact the second verse the first

01:04:11.500 i gave you makes it very clear what jesus meant when he said that he and the father

01:04:16.660 hold on you said makes it very clear if there was a child in this room which verse is more clear

01:04:23.920 mine or yours if there was a child in the room which verse is more clear bro you can never answer

01:04:30.960 you didn't give him any time to answer the question

01:04:35.700 he keeps doing the destiny shit i don't fucking this shit pisses me off so much

01:04:39.900 just if there's a child who's first with the child absorb easier

01:04:42.960 yours or mine yeah your your verse would definitely be easier to confuse the child

01:04:47.120 i agree

01:04:47.520 you know it's is you see other people also interpret that verse and they come to the

01:04:57.780 conclusion that the trinity is false but oneness modalism is true so the point is your verse is

01:05:02.780 actually more vague my verse is clearer because my verse yeah your verse is more vague because

01:05:10.020 other people read that same verse and they don't come to the conclusion of the trinity they come

01:05:14.000 to the conclusion of oneness modalism right because they're they believe oh so jesus and

01:05:18.700 the father are literally one person let the same person so your verse is the one that needs

01:05:23.980 you think average you think the average joe low iq christian whoever even atheists who reads that

01:05:30.960 verse i think if they you're saying the average joe i could go on the street today and do this

01:05:37.900 fucking i can literally ask people on tiktok youtube i could go live on the street and ask

01:05:42.120 a million people what does this verse mean they'd say yeah this verse strengthens the argument for

01:05:47.580 the trinity they would not say what you just said bro no there are some people would come to the

01:05:52.660 conclusion of oneness modalism and then there are people who read the verse

01:05:55.940 who in the average joe world if we were on hollywood west hollywood and asking people

01:06:00.520 who the fuck would answer like that nobody i can't speak for the average joe brother

01:06:06.400 i can just speak for the net yeah so exactly hold on hold on

01:06:11.020 okay if the gospels are supposed to be if the gospels are supposed to be spread

01:06:17.660 through the four wings of the through the four wings of the earth everyone heard them yes the

01:06:25.380 average joe must be able to understand yeah okay so it's not you geniuses oh i found a big brain

01:06:33.360 guy it's the average person can understand it right everyone understands the trinity right so

01:06:39.840 that's not true but um the gospel is um is different from the gospels right when people

01:06:46.260 talking about the gospels that's talking about the four first books of the new testament but that's

01:06:50.300 not what you know what i mean that's not wasting the gay time potato potato jesus did not see the

01:06:56.120 gospel of the kingdom of god is incredibly clear yes it is very simple i'm an immigrant does the

01:07:01.780 average joe is the bible for the average joe or is it for you smart kind of homosexual brains

01:07:09.900 yeah so the bible's for everybody brother yeah yeah so if it's for everybody that toddler in

01:07:15.280 this fucking room would like my verse better because that verse is for everyone right you get

01:07:20.960 it okay it's not a deeper wonder all right it's not a deeper thought so i have a so i have a

01:07:25.780 question for you okay all right so a question for you i'm glad i want that that's got it so first

01:07:31.620 john right first john chapter five verse one everyone who believes that jesus is the christ

01:07:39.680 is a child of god and everyone who loves the parent loves a child do you believe do you agree

01:07:45.840 with that absolutely so i believe jesus is a christ yet you say i'm of the devil and not of

01:07:52.320 christ but you're contrary no no you're trying to work you're trying to get wordplay do you

01:07:57.240 believe jesus is the word of god robed in flesh are you so pathetic i believe you don't answer

01:08:05.040 stop stop yelling before he answers the question let him answer the question

01:08:11.240 no so you're one brother if someone takes a second to think about the question they were

01:08:20.240 asked before they speak you were gonna dodge you know you were gonna dodge no and you just

01:08:27.220 so i have to repeat it and look crazy okay just answer it listen right i'm you're asking the

01:08:33.860 question right is jesus the logos yes i believe jesus is logos you know that's not the question

01:08:39.880 yeah i knew you'd do this bro i knew you'd fucking do this i said is jesus robed in flesh

01:08:46.880 the word of god come in the form of man don't run from it do you believe that yes or no do you

01:08:53.160 believe that yes or no yeah definitely yeah definitely so much trouble listen and you said

01:09:01.060 earlier he's a man he is a man he's not god you don't believe he's a man so you're saying the

01:09:09.560 word of you're saying hold on you're saying the word of god is not god is the you're saying the

01:09:14.900 word is separate from the divine is the bible the word this is pathetic is the bible the word

01:09:22.740 of god hold on let me let me fix this

01:09:24.420 wait wait hold on brother now you can't give me a direct answer huh is the bible the word of god

01:09:34.260 we just answered it psychic revelations they wrote it down yes yes give me a yes or no circa

01:09:41.500 is the bible the word of god yes is the bible god no okay so there you go like i don't understand

01:09:49.780 the word of god has to be hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on the bible what you're saying

01:09:57.380 the book resurrects no brother you're the one who's making here i think you're out thinking

01:10:04.440 you're gonna turn transgender doing this bro how about this first timothy chapter two verse five

01:10:09.640 right okay for there is one god and one mediator between god and men the man christ jesus

01:10:15.920 yes the word of god yes oh it says the man christ jesus you don't believe jesus is a man

01:10:22.140 jesus is the form of a man the word come to show us how to live a perfect life you agreed he's a

01:10:32.080 sinless human how can a human be sinless unless it's the word of god is he not a human

01:10:37.000 yes he's a human and god at the same time where does it say that

01:10:43.700 everywhere what the fuck what do you want me to quote you hold on hold on you want me to

01:10:49.460 quote it like i memorized the bible i expect you to know the bible

01:10:53.580 let me let me shake your world let me shake your world yeah billions of people believe this so

01:11:01.860 stop smiling i'm not smiling you're not that smart bro you're in a niche corner of the internet

01:11:06.560 pretending you're smart thinking you can separate god from the word you're a fucking retard okay

01:11:11.920 You really think, because I can't quote it off the top of my head, billions of people got it wrong.

01:11:17.480 Billions of people are going to hell, you're saying?

01:11:19.880 I never said that.

01:11:21.180 I actually already explained it.

01:11:21.920 Oh, no, right.

01:11:22.400 You want to go.

01:11:23.040 You want to go.

01:11:23.640 You want to take—

01:11:25.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:11:26.900 I know what you want.

01:11:27.640 You want to go to heaven, right, and weaken people's faith in the Trinity.

01:11:31.920 You want to do both at the same time.

01:11:33.540 Let me ask you something.

01:11:36.080 So if you stop believing in the Trinity tomorrow, how would you change as a person?

01:11:41.920 I would weaken my audience faith like you did, you pathetic.

01:11:46.720 Wait, wait.

01:11:47.380 So they're faith, but I'm saying how does your day-to-day life change

01:11:51.280 if all of a sudden you go from believing that Jesus is absolutely equal to the Father

01:11:56.000 to now believing that Jesus is the Son of the Father

01:11:58.960 and submits to the will of the Father?

01:12:02.280 How does it change?

01:12:03.100 Is that my thoughts perfectly align with every other Abrahamic faith,

01:12:08.820 meaning i start walking towards the quran or maybe judaism or or maybe buddhism but which is

01:12:16.340 not abrahamic i know but the point is it's literally taking a piece away from the puzzle

01:12:22.380 you gotta remember in masonic monitors everything is a trinity everything do you believe hold on

01:12:30.960 man is god that's a red flag right there let me finish okay is is god pro-life that in

01:12:39.800 in the masonic logic bro is god pro-life

01:12:43.380 yeah of course god doesn't agree with uh abortion murder brother that's the

01:12:52.000 what is everything everything family unity away from chaos and pro-life correct yeah

01:12:58.780 right so just use your fucking little brain the heavens the individual and the earth beneath them

01:13:06.400 is a trinity remember mother hold on hold on hold on let me finish mother father and sex for the

01:13:16.880 family unit is a trinity the child you understand that the trinity is seen everywhere solid liquid

01:13:23.820 gas it's ever and hold on the three lights uh the three colors of the rainbow that split into the

01:13:30.700 seven seals of revelation the rainbow everything the way your eye works everything is a trinity

01:13:40.800 all right and even uh tesla said uh and uh every free uh freemasonic monitor i've ever read

01:13:48.680 everyone agrees that the god number is three because three is one every genius in history

01:13:54.740 every intellectual one second one second let me fix this

01:13:59.080 okay so after you respond to this uh don i want to ask a specific question for both of you if you

01:14:08.820 can cite something from the bible that defends your point of view if you have a specific verse

01:14:14.240 that can defend the trinity and don if you have a specific verse that defends your point of view

01:14:18.520 okay yes we do kill shots or long verses that we have to ponder about for 10 hours you're the one

01:14:24.220 who bought a versus a kill shot i'm not gonna say go you're the one who bought a versus a kill shot

01:14:28.480 i'm i'm glad you agree i'm the only one here who shot a kill shot in this debate well that's what

01:14:34.640 you said so let's bring up verses if that was that was your big no that was your big checkmate

01:14:38.920 move okay great so i want to hear a specific verse from both of you that defends your position

01:14:44.660 okay start with the satanist okay so here we go um i'll give you a kill shot zirka uh let's see

01:14:53.780 here give me a second all right so psalm 135 verse who's winning so far i know that the lord

01:15:06.840 for Yahweh, that's capital L-O-R-D, for I know that Yahweh is great and that our Lord is above all

01:15:16.160 gods, right? So when we turn to Revelation chapter 3, when Jesus says, him that overcometh,

01:15:27.380 I will make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out. I will write upon him

01:15:34.360 the name of my god and the name of the city of my god who is jesus's god

01:15:40.780 it's still the same god because if jesus is the word of god meaning the perfect example that we

01:15:48.440 have to live by that you agreed is sinless the only prophet that's sinless not only is he teaching

01:15:54.420 us how to pray he's teaching us how to live and worship he's literally teaching us how to be

01:16:01.440 christians you lost so who is so who is

01:16:05.580 let him respond let him respond i've been debating with destiny for years i'm not you

01:16:14.300 who started debating last week nigga i've been debating this for years okay don your response

01:16:19.440 i need to take a piss uh and let me tell you something don if you accept the trinity after

01:16:28.180 this humiliation ritual you go through i'll never say anything bad about you again but you have to

01:16:33.700 tell me who in your chat brainwashed you so i want to talk to them okay go to the bathroom and then

01:16:38.820 come back with the verse that defends the trinity chat who do you think is winning so far who do

01:16:44.340 you have so far yo don it's difficult to moderate this it's difficult i'm trying to direct this

01:16:50.560 somewhat in an intelligent way but it all it comes back to the slogans but i'm trying not to pick

01:16:54.720 sides yeah i mean yeah bro i'm just here to have the conversation you know made people think but

01:17:02.580 you knew you know what was going to happen right it's but it's difficult i'm just here to talk

01:17:08.180 because you're fucking drowning bitch the moderator can't drown but i don't want to insult

01:17:14.500 i'm not going to go stoop to the level saying stoic but uh he what was what was that um there

01:17:21.580 there was something that he kind of dodged earlier um and then pivoted away to the the amount of

01:17:26.240 christians in the world that believe in the trinity what was that that verse that you cited

01:17:29.940 i would like you to steer the conversation back in that direction if you can

01:17:33.660 i don't even know which verse you're talking about i remember i did bring up the point earlier

01:17:38.260 um where zirka was making a big deal about jesus being human and sinless but he believes as a

01:17:44.160 catholic that mary is human and sinless no and so i asked if mary can be human and sinless why

01:17:50.780 can't christ also be human and sinless right right again mary is not god is mary god

01:18:05.800 no but you believe she's sinless right hold on hold on can a prophet be washed and absolved

01:18:11.180 of their sin yes or no you do you believe mary's sinless you're not answering shit again bro we

01:18:16.900 you did dodge this question

01:18:19.920 no you dodged this question first

01:18:22.000 no you're not you're answering a question with a question

01:18:26.580 was mary sinless yes or no

01:18:29.920 i need to know i'm not gonna go on a big rambling if he doesn't believe it

01:18:34.360 do you believe prophets can be washed of their sin by god

01:18:37.640 i believe all people can be washed of your sins by god

01:18:40.560 okay hold that thought

01:18:41.620 hold that thought okay i want to get a straight answer i want to get a straight answer endless

01:18:51.900 for her lifetime that's a huge topic we could do we could do a whole debate on that i'll crush you

01:18:58.420 on that but nobody said during her lifetime she was perfect nobody no i've spoken to catholics

01:19:04.760 who say this i mean this was just i'm not them i'm zirka the guy who converted i'm no no no i'm

01:19:09.980 the guy who converts 1400 people in one appearance i'm not you who converted nobody your whole

01:19:14.700 fucking career now tell me if you want to have the merry one i'll clear my schedule for you tomorrow

01:19:19.200 i'll destroy on that but it'll literally take us five hours to talk about it do you believe

01:19:24.960 jesus was sinless and as he just never sinned right so how can a human be sinless just he's

01:19:32.380 just a human to you he's not god again the same way adam was sinless before he uh fell from

01:19:38.200 no no that was before the temptation you idiot you're not even getting the timeline right

01:19:43.720 so what is it about what change why is it that jesus

01:19:48.940 jesus is called the second adam right you're aware of this right sure okay so jesus is called

01:19:59.780 the second adam i'm saying what was special about adam why he didn't sin what was special about adam

01:20:07.460 why he didn't sin yeah prior to taking of the the tree of knowledge he wasn't tempted first like eve

01:20:13.200 and then he was tempted after because of her yeah sure what's your point yeah okay so my point is

01:20:19.480 is that here we have evidence of a human being not committing any sin for a period of time right

01:20:25.360 but this is before they fall from grace you fucking retard before the start

01:20:30.220 they fell from grace what does that happen hold on hold on what you're saying is what you what

01:20:36.760 you're saying is crystal no one no one's coming to save adam and eve while they're astral fucking

01:20:42.920 beings in paradise you fucking moron so you just came to say hold on hold on hold on hold on

01:20:49.020 you're pathetic bro you're getting clipped up and chopped up by a fucking retard bouncer you

01:20:54.200 fucking suck at this gold i've been debating with destiny you debated nobody you have nobody on your

01:20:58.740 resume now stop interrupting jesus came to save us in this devilish world was that world devilish

01:21:07.580 adam and eve you said it's the same world about the bullet now

01:21:12.380 the garden of eden was that devilish listen again the world is

01:21:19.880 i'm giving you yes or no what makes what makes the world devilish right is the sin of people

01:21:29.800 so of course prior to adam and eve sinning the world was not fallen the world was not devilish

01:21:35.640 what makes the world devilish today so hold on so in your stupid canon where the fuck was jesus

01:21:42.580 was he just playing basketball with adam and eve since he's just a human you fucking clown

01:21:47.300 why did jesus die from the fruit so so in the beginning jesus was in heaven with the father

01:21:54.200 say again jesus was in heaven with the father oh wow so is it just them two no it was also the

01:22:02.580 angels the heavenly beings right and principalities okay okay all right that's an interesting you

01:22:08.480 interesting what lore you have there wow that that makes a lot of sense hold on hold on hold on

01:22:14.740 position i have hold on can i ask you something why didn't jesus go and save adam and eve from

01:22:20.240 fucking up why didn't jesus you tell me you're not gonna answer anything you're fucking

01:22:28.200 you're saying with intellectuals all day tell me why didn't jesus save eve in your lore oh so i'm

01:22:37.480 saying in your lore then why did jesus in your lore he's not even a savior no i didn't say that

01:22:43.080 at all right of course jesus john 3 16 for god so loved the world that he sent his son

01:22:48.080 right so that whoever may believe no no earlier you said that paradise the garden of eden

01:22:52.660 and our world is the exact same it's the same world zirka you said that we have the clip

01:22:56.960 hold on so hold on if it's the same world do you believe that right it's the same world i believe

01:23:03.740 the garden of eden was on earth yes you don't really think the dimension changes when we fall

01:23:09.200 from grace everything changes nothing changed you believe we're in the garden of eden right now

01:23:14.480 we're standing on it no i don't dude the garden of eden was sealed up right guarded by cherubim

01:23:21.580 angels excuse me just just answer this okay if jesus is your savior and you know our savior

01:23:29.180 why didn't he save adam why didn't he save adam why did he wait

01:23:35.820 i asked you about revelation chapter 3 verse 12 right no no you said you tell me you didn't

01:23:42.760 answer mine you said zirka you tell me why you didn't save him i don't believe what you believe

01:23:46.140 i believe us five minutes ago i asked you a question which you've still yet to answer

01:23:51.600 right him that overcometh this is jesus speaking revelation chapter 3 verse 12 him that overcometh

01:23:58.420 will i make a pillar in the temple of my god who is jesus's god

01:24:04.360 full detail who is jesus's god and i'm not gonna answer no no no because then if i miss one point

01:24:10.520 my answer gets weaker re-watch the clip nigga you're not doing that gate let's not speak in

01:24:16.100 clips we're not no no no we're not doing this for clips let's have this conversation

01:24:19.680 and i asked you who is jesus's god you didn't answer you'd been proceeded to talk about how

01:24:25.480 jesus is god and jesus is the word and all of this he has he says he has a god i'm asking who

01:24:33.480 is that all right let me answer let me answer all right let me answer it with a question quick i'll

01:24:37.060 answer you so fast answer this is is did jesus come to teach us to pray and love the father

01:24:45.020 yes or no you can say that yeah how the fuck is he not teaching you right there in your verse

01:24:50.860 clown let's go how the fuck you're telling me there's no word isn't teaching you okay so again

01:24:58.100 okay now can you can you answer his question can you answer his question specifically now

01:25:01.840 i answered him it's my turn you didn't answer you asked another question you did not answer

01:25:06.700 whatsoever what you didn't answer i answered after i asked the question you fucking retard

01:25:11.760 no you don't tell him i answered who is jesus is god it's a simple question

01:25:16.840 who i just answered ike when he said jesus is here to teach us how to worship i'm saying the

01:25:23.760 verse is teaching us how to worship he's not saying that he has a god the word is teaching

01:25:28.060 you how to be a man revelation chapter 3 verse 12 when he says that he's not he's not saying

01:25:34.940 that he has a god here absolutely not well i mean i guess we just read the english differently

01:25:41.720 hold on there's 500 verses where he says he's equal to the father that one verse that's teaching

01:25:48.740 in detail how to temple everything how to worship that's the one you want to cherry pick

01:25:54.380 so so you're saying that jesus contradicts himself he says the father is greater than all

01:25:59.720 and then he says that the father is greater than him so but you're contradicting it no you right

01:26:05.840 you said there are 500 verses where jesus says that he's equal to the father can you name one

01:26:10.400 when we pray to the father and the example of jesus we have to be like so if he tells us how

01:26:16.900 to build temples we have to do it if he says this is how you worship is he direct is he like

01:26:22.580 literally telling you hey we're split after 500 verses of me saying we're equal now i'm changing

01:26:28.160 the story fuck no do you have a verse this is this is where we should go back to this it's going

01:26:34.680 what's your verse

01:26:36.400 this is so easy

01:26:39.900 can we do another one tomorrow

01:26:41.580 just read the verse

01:26:42.580 I don't think he's ever going to play with me again

01:26:45.840 I think 100% he will

01:26:47.500 I don't really think

01:26:48.360 but yeah read the verse

01:26:49.380 let me pick a good one

01:26:55.300 I thought it was easy

01:26:57.980 okay

01:27:04.560 so um i kind of feel bad that i cooked you that hard so i'm gonna just make it gentle now i'm

01:27:10.140 not gonna go to the kill shots i'm gonna go to something that i'm actually curious about

01:27:13.040 since you think of things in such a feminine way i gotta know when you said adam and eve

01:27:19.840 we're not saved by jesus because he was too busy playing basketball or whatever

01:27:23.420 well you said he's chilling with god right i said he was in heaven you believe the same thing

01:27:29.480 right right right but again look at this right ready okay in the beginning was the word

01:27:37.240 the word was with god we were just talking about the beginning correct yeah why can you not just

01:27:45.680 absorb that jesus is the word of god not some human son you retard again jesus is the word

01:27:55.480 right now he's not literally the logos right if you look at the definition of that

01:27:59.800 that um word that is being translated from the greek it's logos which means reasoning thoughts

01:28:06.080 right this is you know um metaphorical when he uses this language when he calls him the word

01:28:12.060 right and so uh but yeah jesus is that was a metaphorical language to point to jesus who then

01:28:19.560 big game really do you believe all right i mean you gotta just you can't take it literally you

01:28:27.140 can't hold on would you say like a bishop's face that you know more than a bishop if you take the

01:28:32.740 word there are bishops that agree with me no no but i'm saying would you say it to like a genius

01:28:38.280 like pick anyone throughout history would you really be condescending towards like i don't i

01:28:44.680 mean just because i disagree with someone doesn't mean i'm i'm being condescending

01:28:47.980 think about it like dude you don't even speak with conviction like in your tone of voice you're not

01:28:53.100 even certain like me i'm pretty certain of what i believe you're pretty so yeah so revelation

01:29:00.180 when you said that you looked down and you went soft no because i look look i got verses i got

01:29:07.460 bro it used to be better there could there's a screen in front of me i got verses on my screen

01:29:12.480 i'm trying to get you to answer this verse but we're on the same page right so you're saying

01:29:16.780 he's a human and i'm saying that's the word you don't believe jesus is a human yeah he comes down

01:29:24.600 and robed in flesh hold on hold on hold on hold on is jesus a human after he goes back

01:29:32.880 yeah we already went over that timothy where it says the man jesus christ the man is a mediator

01:29:40.260 between god and men so what do you think that means when we so when i so when i meet my lord

01:29:47.460 and savior you're saying jesus will be standing next to him when you're crazy when you meet the

01:29:53.820 lord and savior jesus will be standing next to who god in yours yeah 100 wow so so you're gonna

01:30:04.220 you're telling me billions and billions of people got it wrong yeah all right let me ask you this do

01:30:11.120 billions and billions of people let him ask this question no no no zirka zirka zirka zirka let him

01:30:16.920 ask this question i know what he's gonna do okay then let him do it if you know what he's gonna do

01:30:21.960 stop stop for five seconds the kingdom of heaven is for the very few i know where this faggot's

01:30:28.120 going great no i was actually stop interrupting stop interrupting yeah do you believe billions

01:30:35.160 of people believe that earth is a spinning ball yeah okay so billions of people could get something

01:30:41.280 wrong so you're equating earth to the word as in they they're not saved because they think it's a

01:30:49.120 ball yeah so my point is that it's because a lot of people a lot of people can believe something

01:30:55.020 that's false no no where in the bible does it say if you think it's a ball you burn in hell you

01:30:59.540 fucking retard i never said that if you believe in the trinity you burn in hell either

01:31:02.940 if you don't believe you mean no if you do where in the bible does it say you need to believe in

01:31:10.680 the trinity lest you burn in hell oh my god so you think catholics got it right but you're just

01:31:15.380 more right no i don't believe catholics got it right no no no hold on all right any trinitarian

01:31:21.580 and you believe it has a

01:31:22.960 I don't

01:31:24.240 do you think

01:31:27.680 do you think all things are salvation issues

01:31:31.400 I know you pulling your chat away from the Trinity is a salvation issue I know this I can okay

01:31:40.380 okay all right bye give me a verse to prove that

01:31:43.560 I don't have a verse oh of course you don't because it's not in the Bible the word Trinity isn't even in the Bible

01:31:48.960 here's the truth about

01:31:50.520 um that's a muslim tactic right there the word journey is not even the bible i mean it's not is

01:31:56.000 it that's great that's like saying the did the bible say anything about a wooden cross

01:32:01.540 no but it's our symbol yeah it actually does it actually does talk about a wooden cross we know

01:32:07.400 jesus died on a wooden cross right right right does it say anywhere where we have to make necklaces

01:32:12.220 and shit idiot we do things after the fact all the time i don't agree with that you don't agree

01:32:18.000 with that no really where in the bible does it tell us to wear a wooden cross around our necks

01:32:23.020 i'm saying it doesn't that's the point that we exactly so things happen after that does that

01:32:29.180 so is it a salvation issue whether you choose to do it or not no okay i'm saying it's weird it's

01:32:35.560 weird would you say the difference from me and you is when i read the bible i'm on meat and

01:32:42.000 potato issues and you're on peas and carrots and long verses that you try and maybe i can change

01:32:48.500 this so jesus can play basketball with adam and eve you're fucking retarded well i would say it's

01:32:54.100 actually the reverse i think you're making a big deal out of something that's not the bible doesn't

01:32:58.400 make a deal at all and i think the most important thing i think the most important thing is that we

01:33:03.760 accept jesus as christ and lord and that we obey him and that we love one another i think that's

01:33:08.780 what that's what i focus on on my screen does god have favorites um that's an interesting way to put

01:33:17.060 it i believe so yeah so you'd say jesus is his favorite oh most certainly wow hold on so could

01:33:25.440 adam have saved us if it was jesus's day off no i don't get the connection well you said he's equal

01:33:32.040 jesus is equal to adam you said earlier i never said that once you said he's just supercharged

01:33:37.400 right no i said adam didn't there was a point in time where adam never sinned and he's a human

01:33:43.000 hold on hold on but we're talking about in the world filled with temptation not one snake retard

01:33:51.860 who jesus died for everyone all the sin on earth yeah it's not all of history and you're making

01:33:59.240 making him equal to adam that's got to be the most satanic thing i've ever heard i'm not making

01:34:03.600 him equal to adam you are jesus is a son no you are you're saying they're all together you're

01:34:08.580 saying he's sinless and you're pretending like it's the same virgin yeah i'm saying jesus is the

01:34:13.220 only begotten son of god right i believe that jesus had a very unique relationship to the father

01:34:18.940 that nobody else had the bible clearly says no one has seen the father but jesus jesus comes from

01:34:24.280 a very different position than any other human to us ever who has ever lived okay all of these

01:34:30.140 things together i am sure resulted in why he was able to be obedient onto death i love anime so

01:34:36.800 let's make it anime i want to hear it from your point of view who's the strongest thing who's the

01:34:41.400 strongest angel though uh i'm not sure i don't know i haven't studied angels like that okay i'm

01:34:47.120 pretty sure it's mikhail it's michael right not gabriel i've been fried at a few days but let's

01:34:52.760 say okay uh that they say comes uh as a warrior of light or something like that um and uh anyways

01:35:02.400 chat refresh my memory uh which angel is it because i just because i just because he doesn't

01:35:07.700 know it i'm not going to dunk him dunk on him from that because i mix up names sometimes

01:35:11.080 check this out i i gotta know this is it gabriel really okay right no besides lucifer besides this

01:35:20.280 okay do you think jesus could destroy gabriel in a fight in your world since the bible says

01:35:27.800 that's the strongest angel you'd say he's even more right jesus yes jesus has authority over

01:35:34.300 all things in heaven and earth including angels okay all right i just want to see that's not

01:35:39.760 really a question i just want to know how you see it that's interesting okay do you have more verses

01:35:44.400 from the bible that you can use to defend like zerk you said you have a lot don it seems like

01:35:48.660 you came prepared i want to read more yeah let's go all right

01:35:55.700 chat who won that last back and forth be honest be honest

01:36:02.900 i'm trying to try my best to moderate

01:36:06.440 okay let's do um you're familiar with matthew 28 19 uh new testament let's go with go therefore

01:36:16.280 and make disciples of all nations baptizing them in the name of the father and of the son

01:36:23.000 and of the son and of the holy spirit right this verse is significant because it combines the

01:36:30.680 father the son and the holy spirit together in one you lost no it's saying to baptize in the

01:36:40.440 authority of the father the son and the holy spirit you see that authority authority meaning

01:36:46.840 hierarchy meaning they're in the same level of hierarchy authority mr krabs hold on hold on

01:36:52.040 hold on my nigga you lost mr krabs has authority over spongebob correct this is implying they're at

01:37:01.140 the same level that is your fucking trinity no it's saying that right you must you cannot baptize

01:37:07.560 solely in the name of the father and not in christ right all that come to the father

01:37:12.260 you have to come to the father through jesus christ this is why if you reject jesus as the

01:37:19.860 christ which is why proof i'm not pushing islam if you reject jesus as the christ if you reject

01:37:25.460 jesus as a risen son of god you cannot let me finish up here's what it's really saying look

01:37:33.220 it's what this verse is saying this is i mean you can't have your interpretation my interpretation

01:37:37.240 i got it i got yours is yeah okay you're not convincing anyone you're not convincing anyone

01:37:43.280 let it finish let it finish yeah so my interpretation of the father the son and

01:37:48.300 the holy spirit baptizing in the name i.e the authority of the father son and holy spirit

01:37:52.200 you're identifying the three significant unavoidable necessary components of the

01:37:59.620 born-again experience of a christian right yeah same ingredients for the same soup

01:38:05.720 through faith in jesus christ you may come to the father and receive the holy spirit which is the

01:38:11.960 evidence by which you will be resurrected at christ's return and now now here's what it's

01:38:18.540 really saying all right since you you're not on my level bro i'm sorry it's saying

01:38:24.100 forget about time for all of time you will have jesus christ within the heavens and the father

01:38:31.580 same jesus earth the message of how to live a perfect life like the word jesus and the holy

01:38:38.280 spirit jesus it's literally the trinity of fucking heaven you and what's beneath you

01:38:45.300 meaning you're saved for life for all of human history and time you fucking suck at this give

01:38:51.840 me your million subscriber youtube channel you got fucking cooked the only reason people are

01:38:57.480 going to dislike me is because i was rude with you but honestly i can tell in your voice you

01:39:01.580 don't believe what you believe you're not like me bro you don't even read it correct you try and

01:39:06.480 like cope with it yeah so again you still have yet to answer who is jesus's god revelation chapter

01:39:13.800 three you know i can do a compilation reel of me repeating the answer and i know what you're trying

01:39:19.740 to do you're trying to weaken my answer because the first time i replied was loaded you want to

01:39:24.620 take it down 10 bullets you say you know what you're talking about but it sounds as if you're

01:39:30.700 that's how i know you're a snake you understood my answer you're like oh so

01:39:35.680 you have not you have not a single time told me who jesus is god is

01:39:40.800 you understood my answer when you said oh so jesus the word is teaching us how to pray

01:39:47.940 not that it's a little no no no hold on you said that it's not a literal his father he's

01:39:53.740 teaching us exactly how to build that's what i said right i am asking you he's just here

01:39:58.900 no jesus if you understood i understood you didn't answer my question

01:40:05.860 you have not answered the question okay you want me to give you another one

01:40:22.420 how about first oh jesus is the father is that what that is not the trinity brother just so you

01:40:35.020 know you don't believe in the trinity does not say that this is the father now a lot of catholic

01:40:49.720 hearts bro you just broke a lot of catholic hearts that's fine that's fine you're gonna

01:40:53.860 go to the pope you're gonna go to jesuits aren't you you're gonna go to the pope now

01:40:57.180 zirka you gotta agree with the pope go ahead say that say it say it

01:41:01.220 wait bro bro you just you just said jesus is the father bro

01:41:19.700 that's like trinity 101 jesus is not the father dude are you fucking retarded what do you think

01:41:27.800 you've been debating till now the word can i ask you something is the is the word of zirka his

01:41:34.500 one second let me refresh this score before before we're cooking we're cooking we're cooking

01:41:42.420 right now stop running i was running bro the dead side no running

01:41:49.960 hold on hold on hold on is zirka's word is my word is zirka's word zirka's is your word

01:42:00.540 yours yeah of course is it a part of me or is it detached yeah it's it's detached from you

01:42:08.940 for certain how is it detached if it's zerkas you idiot you're not understanding the trinity at all

01:42:16.220 all right is your car your car is the car is your car zerkas car did it spawn out of my flesh

01:42:24.140 fucking retard all right so are your children are your children are my children mine yeah are

01:42:31.340 my children mine yep why didn't you go to children why did you go to car

01:42:36.600 children is even better example are you your children say again are you your children that's

01:42:48.900 even better example thank you for that no because i'm human and i'm not that divine being like the

01:42:54.980 father son and the holy spirit clown you're trying to equate me and my son as humans who take shits

01:43:01.860 to god bro this is the intro you sounded more and more like a muslim the more the stream going

01:43:12.980 you used to be muslim right that's not an answer what do you mean that you didn't give me an answer

01:43:19.000 you didn't give me a statement you said i want a rebuttal from you sure you said because something

01:43:26.220 spawns out of you that means that it is you but you also that's not what i said i said you said

01:43:33.520 why your words are you that's why your words are you because they came out of you you know what

01:43:39.100 you're doing you little snake i am gonna ask you don't run why are you trying to equate a human

01:43:46.620 family relationship you are i don't know no no no i never said i'm identical to jesus and stuff as

01:43:57.260 a human you say stupid shit like that i'm asking you why why would you ever say zirka is your son

01:44:04.060 you is zirka god okay hold on hold on no no no no you're not cooking you're derailing the

01:44:11.720 conversation this was your example no no no hold on hold on hold on let me this is your example

01:44:16.520 i'm not saving i want to get back on track before you start yelling

01:44:21.760 chasing fucking bridge am i burning your bridge it has nothing to do with bridge i want to get

01:44:26.480 back on the conversation you said zirka you said you brought up your example of your words

01:44:32.880 are my words me correct you're gonna misquote me if you misquote me i swear to god

01:44:38.840 sure sure you use the analogy saying are zirka words part of me and then he used the example

01:44:45.520 of his kids and he asked you are your kids you and you said no because it is not god right no

01:44:51.080 hold on this is this is your argument but you're saying you can't equate your children to god

01:44:54.860 but you were saying that your words were you so now you are so i first hold up the beginning of

01:45:00.420 analogy you were comparing yourself to the deity so let me go back to the original let me i know

01:45:06.180 what you're asking i'm not i'm not asking a question yet i'm not asking a question i want

01:45:10.180 to get back on the conversation don why are you saying that he disappointed a lot of catholics

01:45:16.240 by saying that jesus is the father why does that refute the trinity in your opinion

01:45:20.180 hope a jesuit that's why he's saying it he won't admit it the pope didn't invent the concept of

01:45:26.540 the trinity brother no no no but you're making the argument that because zirka's a catholic

01:45:31.200 he has to go with the pope you know that's the argument you're making no not even done you know

01:45:37.200 that's the argument you're making now you're gonna run from it because you know jesuits take a

01:45:40.720 different oath and they're corrupt and now you that you got cooked here now you're trying to

01:45:45.040 ascribe me catholic positions of low iq catholics when i'm the one converting a thousand four hundred

01:45:50.760 people they're gonna listen to me i don't have to fucking listen to your buddy catholic fucking

01:45:55.620 retard yeah so protestant trinitarians also deny that jesus is the father literally everybody who

01:46:03.620 actually understands the trinity understands that jesus is not the father really even the

01:46:09.840 churches that put up a gay faggot rainbow flag every even i mean i can't i can't speak for them

01:46:18.300 but literally everybody who understands the trinity and knows that jesus is not

01:46:32.240 yeah everybody if you hold on hold on in fact if you pull up what do you what you should do is

01:46:39.980 come on wrap it up i want to go i want to go is google images i gotta kill you should just google

01:46:46.900 images diagram of the trinity and every single one makes a big deal of pointing out that jesus

01:46:52.260 is not the father yeah yeah oh i know exactly what you're saying right i know exactly what

01:46:56.820 you're saying i know exactly what you're saying it's a much more complicated topic right but

01:47:00.900 really what everyone has to know is one god that's all i'm saying right i know exactly what

01:47:08.280 you're saying you're saying about the not god not god not god i know what you're saying bro and we

01:47:13.300 can't do that and it's boring and i'll win there too but i'll win slowly so it won't make me viral

01:47:18.140 but hold on dude you just said i gotta cite faggot flag protestant churches rainbow flags

01:47:24.840 and i gotta cite jesuits who take an oath not to christ and the papacy my dude when i read

01:47:33.000 scripture when i study christian history i'm not like you who does it in modern times i do it

01:47:37.880 when christianity was peaking not this disgusting dark world we inherited

01:47:42.460 so stop saying zirka the modern day catholic believes this i'm not your modern day catholic

01:47:48.980 i am the highest fastest growing shadow band channel on earth right now i am let's stay on

01:47:55.600 topic the holy spirit you sneaker you can two-on-one me all day i'm not two-on-oneing

01:48:02.540 let's stay on topic it has nothing to do with your channel size you're you're totally two-on-one

01:48:06.940 you're totally no you're talking about you're just using insults to talk about your channel

01:48:10.560 this is supposed to be about the trinity let's keep it about the trinity hold on i'm going

01:48:14.740 why are you interrupting bro sneaker if you left there would be more views you know that okay you

01:48:19.800 could have posted it yourself but if you if it wasn't me here then we would get off topic and

01:48:23.480 make it about your channel zirka this is not for you to jerk off how many viewers you're having

01:48:27.720 this is about the trinity can we keep this on topic you know what's funny don the comment section

01:48:34.140 gonna say the fact that you didn't interrupt sneaker for the two-on-one you're a coward just

01:48:38.920 because you're losing you need him tell him i'm not i'm not on any side i want to hear about the

01:48:44.440 trinity i appreciate that i appreciate that no i appreciate sneaker is trying to keep this a civil

01:48:52.000 discourse and you know i'm saying he's moderating i mean we agreed that nico would be the moderator

01:48:57.380 he's doing his job whatever what you just gave the politically correct answer he just said he

01:49:02.340 had a problem that i said i'm going viral converting christians that is civil that's what

01:49:08.100 you're making it that i'm what beating you over a head with a racial slur and he's making it civil

01:49:17.080 okay i've never said don can you respond to his claim can you respond to his claims that he's

01:49:24.040 about catholicism and about about the protestant and all that and how he's the real christian i

01:49:28.440 let him respond zirka stop talking for five seconds man you know what's funny sneaker knows

01:49:34.940 me offline he said to my face zirka if i trip you up on your rambling you can never get the

01:49:40.720 kill shot answer because you forget the word so he knew what he did he did that shit on purpose

01:49:44.780 and i forgot what i was saying you win good shit snake faggot i don't know what you're talking

01:49:49.060 about burn a bridge with him i don't it has nothing to do with burning the bridge let's keep

01:49:52.900 it to the trinity don can you respond to his claims about catholicism and what are you saying

01:49:56.740 about protestants and the disagreements yeah i don't particularly care about you know zirka's

01:50:02.360 relationship with the catholic church modern or otherwise i was just making the point because he

01:50:07.120 identifies as a catholic i was saying that it is a very fundamental catholic doctrine that jesus is

01:50:13.740 not the father which he said multiple times and so i just thought that was funny and i just used

01:50:19.540 that because he identifies but why would you describe me a catholic position of muhammad

01:50:25.440 jobs friend or whoever your psyop buddies are why i don't even know who that is my point when i said

01:50:31.740 i have the most followers and shit if i'm the biggest catholic channel on earth right now

01:50:36.100 going viral that you were hold on i'm pretty sure i got it right not your fucking mohammed

01:50:41.280 a job buddy not your mohammed a job buddy so go off my opinion i'm the one reading the books

01:50:46.240 don't go off i have a catholic buddy who doesn't agree with zirka and he has four followers he's

01:50:50.940 never debated online i've never even lost it online zorka i'm saying that this is literally

01:50:56.320 every catholic who like you're talking about bishop you that's the point i didn't do that to

01:51:03.640 you imagine if i said you imagine dude imagine if i said that to you but hey actually the people

01:51:12.740 in your tribe who believe this it's not a conversation about catholics the point is the

01:51:18.760 trinity right you could for anybody anybody who believes in the trinity would be would cringe

01:51:25.420 at the sound at you saying the word they'd cringe at me hold on would they cringe at zirka saying

01:51:31.820 god is one no i don't believe so that's exactly what i said no you said jesus is the father

01:51:38.980 jesus the father the holy spirit those are three that's one get it get through your

01:51:46.560 fucking thick head idiot don't trip me up don't misquote me the fuck and you know what's funny

01:51:52.480 that's not a misquote that was directly what she said hold on shut up shut the fuck up i didn't ask

01:51:56.800 you shit nobody misquoted you dissect the you you interrupt to dissect the full answer because the

01:52:02.900 full answer is in three parts you want to take away two let me do the full answer if i'm doing

01:52:07.880 a trinity answer i'll say three parts and then package it into one fucking clown you and you

01:52:13.560 know you interrupt when i'm building momentum you didn't interrupt when i was on the back foot

01:52:17.580 which i don't even remember i don't think i've been on the back foot once this debate

01:52:20.840 but have you noticed every time i'm winning you interrupt it's never when it's like back and forth

01:52:25.200 dude let me win bro you're never gonna win with your arguments like you i don't think you convinced

01:52:30.960 one person today sure the only people on your side are muslims who hate me but dude these guys

01:52:36.240 worship a cube lolzor okay don can you explain why a lot of catholics would cringe at zirka

01:52:41.380 saying that jesus is the father yeah it's just the basic

01:52:45.420 it's a bit

01:52:49.820 we can move on so all right zirka how many gods are there

01:52:54.940 i just answered seconds ago listen brother we're moving on a different point

01:53:01.740 you keep repeating why you do that i'm making a new point how many gods are there

01:53:09.240 excuse me there's one all right okay all right so god is also god too yes yes yes okay so if

01:53:18.180 we go to john 3 16 right oh i love this this is my best one cool john 3 16 let's go there

01:53:28.880 of course i'm rude they're cheating two on one and he doesn't he yo when you rewatch this debate

01:53:38.620 someone add a non-answer counter on him versus my answers i give him four fucking answers that

01:53:44.140 are tied to the same theme he never answers if you do a counter ding every time he gives a non-answer

01:53:50.120 or just tries to weasel i went viral on debating because i don't let people weasel i expose them

01:53:55.880 okay so john 3 16 for god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son

01:54:03.200 is where it says god can you replace that name with jesus absolutely so it would be confusing

01:54:11.220 wouldn't it wait wait hold on could you replace it for the the word of god no but no no hold on

01:54:19.740 could you replace jesus i'm saying in the middle jesus for the word the name jesus doesn't appear

01:54:25.400 in this verse but yeah john 3 16 say it again say it again okay so for god so love the world

01:54:32.620 that he yeah yeah i meant son can you replace son for the word that he gave his only begotten

01:54:39.480 word of god yeah could you do that would it make sense um no that would have made a fucking clown

01:54:47.460 dude he gave his only fucking command again jesus is not literally the word of god brother that is

01:54:56.800 not what he said just that is what you're in the intro man word and god okay so when he calls jesus

01:55:09.660 the word right that is a metaphor but in here you're saying that explain the metaphor part go

01:55:16.560 ahead okay so you're saying there's only one god and jesus is that god so in john 3 16 where it

01:55:22.140 says for god so loved the world then by your logic we should be able to replace this with

01:55:27.720 for jesus so loved the world right so for jesus so loved the world he gave his only begotten son

01:55:35.820 who is jesus's only begotten son who is say it again hold on say it again okay just fucking like

01:55:43.880 walked and stomped on the steps sure okay john 3 16 for god so love the world you and i agree

01:55:52.980 that there is only one god but you believe that jesus is that god right no i believe the word of

01:55:59.940 god is god so stop fucking changing it you almost tripped me up again why do you keep doing that

01:56:05.100 you don't believe jesus is god i just said it's the word and you you switched my position when

01:56:10.280 wait so you don't believe jesus is god so is the word of god god answer it you're not answering

01:56:18.900 my question yes the word of god is not yes the word of god is not god so you're saying the word

01:56:39.260 is not divine i never said that the word is it the word is a metaphor for jesus this jesus was

01:56:47.780 an elohim is god's word divine and a part of him is god's word divine is god's word a divine being

01:56:57.560 no it's not holy satanism so hold up okay so no before no before you continue no no no hold on

01:57:13.640 hold on stop stop stop stop stop you answered you answered his question hold up zirka for five

01:57:20.580 seconds you answered it no stop stop zirka stop i'm not saving him i'm keeping the conversations

01:57:27.380 directly before you go and stop

01:57:29.120 Zerka

01:57:31.400 it seems to me

01:57:33.540 that you're incapable

01:57:34.500 of just like

01:57:36.980 having a conversation

01:57:38.320 let me follow up

01:57:39.880 please

01:57:40.640 so here we go

01:57:42.680 you derailed the conversation

01:57:46.900 he answered your question

01:57:48.860 now Zerka

01:57:49.560 you didn't answer his question

01:57:53.700 you did not answer his question

01:57:55.060 hold on

01:57:56.740 don asked you no stop don asked you is you i need a clarification please i need a clarification

01:58:04.020 if the word of god is not divine what would be equal to it would it be adam eve jesus who up

01:58:12.040 there would be if the word if god's word out of his let's say mouth if the word is not divine

01:58:18.380 what the fuck is that what jesus is what jesus is if god is not powerful what part of god is

01:58:25.780 so the word is you're saying the thought patterns of god are not powerful right i said

01:58:31.700 no no no you're saying that god can be split the word can be you're saying his command is not the

01:58:39.000 okay zirka stop talking for five seconds now stop talking for five seconds you you answered

01:58:44.260 bro sure you answered his question with the question don asked you is jesus god and then

01:58:49.040 you asked him is the word of god god he answered and you did not answer his original question

01:58:54.240 you answered by asking that question which he answered so to keep it fair can you answer don

01:58:59.500 can you re-ask that question that zirka answered a question with so we can keep it back on the same

01:59:03.500 line of conversation all right so first a couple things let me clarify what zirka seems to be

01:59:10.020 misunderstanding he asked me right is the word of god god i specified and said the word of god

01:59:17.140 is not a divine being in the sense of the 10 commandments that is the word of god if you

01:59:21.780 literally mean if you literally mean the actual words coming from the mouth of god like when he

01:59:29.940 gave us the commandments that is not a divine person those are his words but if you if you mean

01:59:36.080 if what you mean is again you are using the label the metaphor right that is given to ascribe to

01:59:43.680 jesus in john 1 1 and only john 1 1 right if you're using that label then yes jesus is divine

01:59:52.400 i believe but check it out here's how i'm seeing it from my side because i know that the chat is

01:59:57.160 wait wait i just wanted to clarify that but i wanted to refocus on the question i asked you

02:00:04.100 because you let me show you what i'm hearing no no so you can clarify let me show you what i heard

02:00:08.120 no let me show you what you just said to me before i forget all right i'm not like you

02:00:11.960 i'm not a scholar i'll forget i'm on adderall so now check this out to me what it sounds i know

02:00:17.520 what it is the chat i know the chat saying oh zirka destroyed him and stuff you guys are too

02:00:22.020 young to even understand this part don you're doing great don't worry about it check this out

02:00:25.900 now you're saying

02:00:27.960 if god's word was i'll save you just sonically vocals are not divine you're saying a piece of

02:00:38.900 god is not ascribed divinity and infinite power no i said it's not

02:00:44.320 no if you're if you go ahead and rewind the tape

02:00:55.880 i said the word of god is not a divine being and i was specifically talking about his actual words

02:01:01.900 right if you wanted that's crazy to me dude that's crazy that you can say that man

02:01:07.480 you believe that 10 commandments is a divine person no no no the word is here to save you

02:01:16.640 you're talking about jesus though you're using or you're using a metaphor why don't you just use

02:01:22.100 his name hold on no no it's a metaphor to you do you change that with your satanism no with your

02:01:28.440 do you use demoralization alchemy to change your fucking mind if you look at any like

02:01:34.220 it's not a metaphor to me it's a metaphor who believe it's a fucking metaphor there's not a

02:01:40.280 single lexicon that uses the word logos right which you're quoting john one there's not a

02:01:44.980 single word that uses logos to literally mean jesus so when you say the word of god

02:01:50.940 stop interrupting stop interrupting stop can i find it in her man can you find what in our

02:01:58.280 john 1 1 is that what you're asking it was written in greek so no you cannot

02:02:07.860 that's the point that people fucking argue this what does this word mean what is it's clear

02:02:15.700 obvious clear as cut as day billions of people on earth are not getting it wrong billions of people

02:02:22.420 are not misinterpreting god's message bro just you you do believe that you do believe that billions

02:02:29.060 of people no no i'm not saying they're going to hell you said they're still going to heaven i'm

02:02:33.120 not telling i'm not no but i'm saying you believe that there are billions of people misinterpret

02:02:38.680 the bible right like when they read it you said you said that about earth not god no

02:02:45.560 but i'm saying you but you do believe that you do believe that there are billions you're like for

02:02:50.000 instance there are billions of i do not believe that no i don't believe billions of people don't

02:02:56.200 understand what the fuck jesus christ is we have so many denominations if everybody if it's so

02:03:02.120 clear to everybody on the planet except me billions agree with me because god is not a deceiver this

02:03:08.980 is not sneaker's religion there's no there's nothing that says god is a deceiver yeah yeah

02:03:15.740 but you know so hold on hold on i know you think billions are still gonna make it to heaven

02:03:20.240 but they're gonna have a conversation of like hey why did you think my

02:03:23.900 you see here's the thing i don't believe i'm not gonna judge who goes to heaven or hell either

02:03:31.040 i'll never do that but that's stupid but you believe billions are gonna have the conversation

02:03:35.780 with god okay but you believe you think god is gonna ask them well let me hold on man i'm building

02:03:41.800 man i'm building viewers for you i'm building i'm helping your career bro don't you believe that

02:03:47.860 yeah don't you believe that i'm going to hell because i denied eternity no okay i would never

02:03:54.220 make that judgment okay i say it to scare you so you stop fooling your fucking retard audience

02:04:01.560 hmm yeah well my audience can think for themselves so i i encourage them to read the bible and think

02:04:08.060 for themselves it's luciferian again just let them read scripture my nigga let them read scripture

02:04:14.640 let them the geniuses of history already figured this out why no no no hold on if all right i'll

02:04:21.080 let me think for myself and become transgender bro stop reasoning with the bible it's faith

02:04:27.000 or reason pick one so you keep trying to outsmart it like your destiny pick it or you want to be

02:04:33.580 reasonable enough to be transgender and cut your dick off or do you want to just have faith in the

02:04:38.180 lord that billions of people got it correct my nigga you still you're like you're sowing dissent

02:04:44.080 upon the movement that's what you're doing no i'm not uh you still haven't answered explain

02:04:49.180 first corinthians 8 6. i bet i did i'm not pretending no it says to us there is one god the

02:04:58.780 father explain that well how about i hold on how about i bring up answer answer that answer that

02:05:08.260 specific question answer that question yeah yeah i'm saying i'm saying just because i don't have

02:05:12.980 a fucking kill shot response doesn't mean my first verse that i said the father and i are one

02:05:17.980 is wrong i'm saying i have way more verses on my side than he does on his and i'm not saying

02:05:23.520 quantity is important i want quality what makes a verse quality right easy to understand is quality

02:05:30.880 right that's not hold on hold on hold on wait and they always say remember well hold on they say

02:05:37.620 they always say if you can explain it to your grandmother you understand it but you just said

02:05:43.280 you just said don't think for yourself and then you're saying easy to understand so what

02:05:47.980 You just said that it's satanic to think for yourself and that you should just blindly follow the scripture.

02:05:53.520 And now you're saying that you have to choose the ones that are easy to understand.

02:05:58.440 Absolutely.

02:05:59.420 Geniuses, Christian theologians have already figured it out.

02:06:02.340 Him in this new age wave is trying to change it.

02:06:05.160 So I'm not saying go with the Pope of today and stuff.

02:06:08.040 For all of human history, my position is the correct one.

02:06:12.360 He's trying to say billions of people are incorrect.

02:06:14.680 Okay, you're dodging the question.

02:06:16.920 You're dodging the question.

02:06:17.980 he's also saying he's hold on i don't know why you're emotional you're not even in this debate

02:06:22.680 i'm not emotional whatsoever you're the one yelling and using ad hominem attacks you're

02:06:26.660 dodging and derailing and bring it to numbers again you go when he dodged 40 of my questions

02:06:31.900 in a row he didn't dodge your questions he he answered all your questions someone make

02:06:37.240 a compilation real of that snake and what he just said you know makes the

02:06:41.160 just because you don't like or agree with my answer doesn't mean i didn't answer he answered

02:06:48.280 every single one of your questions you're on a live detector if you're on a live detector

02:06:51.780 and we ask you did you ask zirka's what did you answer zirka's first seven questions directly

02:06:58.380 do you really think you'd say yes and if they ask me you know what the live detector

02:07:03.940 test would say for me it would say zirka not only answered it quickly and directly

02:07:07.820 but he explained

02:07:08.940 the lie detector would also

02:07:13.840 give additional

02:07:14.900 it's a lie detector charged with the Holy Spirit

02:07:19.860 it's a hypothetical lie detector

02:07:23.480 not only did he tell the truth

02:07:24.860 but he also did it in an official and clear-cut way

02:07:27.580 that's a dope life

02:07:28.700 am I saying Don or Dom

02:07:31.860 with an M

02:07:32.480 Don I think is what you were saying

02:07:35.300 like a mafia Don

02:07:36.620 okay don okay yo why are you guys fucking chatting bro i'm trying to bring this cloud

02:07:41.660 you fucking got girls changing naked don't try to keep it back on the question that you would

02:07:45.720 that he dodged earlier that woman's burning in hell okay everyone get the don't can you go back

02:07:51.040 to the question that you were asking earlier that he did dude this is the worst team and tell them

02:07:57.100 to be quiet bro bring us viewers okay fuck before you interrupt the hell so so wait oh my god

02:08:04.740 because of this fucking foodist bitch zirka where are you streaming to by the way what platform are

02:08:09.800 you streaming he's not streaming right now um i stream i i just spread the word on podcasts i

02:08:15.220 don't like making money i just like spreading the word on podcasts that's it what's your what's

02:08:19.100 your main platform rumble uh kick kick okay all right it does cures all right so anyway i was

02:08:26.100 gonna ask do you think that billions of christians will go to heaven but god is gonna say hey so why

02:08:31.780 did you think my begotten son was my word okay before you answer that question don i want so

02:08:36.400 going to answer that question that he dodged earlier you dodged earlier and started talking

02:08:46.900 about your followers let's make it fair yeah so here's the thing i don't believe when we get to

02:08:53.600 heaven we'll ask god anything right because um if we look at if you look at jeremiah right if you

02:09:01.220 look at jeremiah it says that upon our resurrection right entering did he leave

02:09:07.680 leave or is he here he left he just called me emotional and he left because i wanted him to

02:09:12.000 answer a question oh he left left okay all right well while he's gone i'm gonna go take a leak he's

02:09:25.040 probably just taking a leak give me a second i don't know if he's taking a leak i think i think

02:09:29.860 he left i think he left um yeah go ahead go ahead i'm here i'm literally here you remember five

02:09:36.580 seconds ago when you called me emotional and then look at you man can you see me is the camera broken

02:09:46.000 you're on uh yeah i can see you you know chat make a compilation reel of how many times they

02:09:53.820 both snaked me today didn't answer i don't need to go see go what questions did you ask don

02:09:59.080 i asked some questions i didn't even ask you a question i just tried to keep the conversation

02:10:04.020 on track i didn't bring up any every question i asked was specific to both of you i asked you to

02:10:08.280 give let me answer the question you just asked me i asked you both to bring bible verses that

02:10:13.060 defend your point of view i asked you to give opening statements and if you're going to say

02:10:16.620 that i snaked you i allowed you to give ad hominem attacks and yell the entire time don did not

02:10:21.380 interrupt you the same way you interrupted him dot never insulted you one time you were screaming

02:10:25.740 in front of him you were insulting him all those things that i should be able to moderate and i

02:10:30.080 didn't moderate so if you're going to call me a snake your debate tactics he was not using the

02:10:33.940 same i did not ask any specific questions of zirka i asked him to stay on track with the

02:10:45.220 conversations and i asked him to bring viable verses that coincide with what they're talking

02:10:49.320 about okay now kind of the camera turned off it's on it's on oh it's better it's better

02:11:01.320 dude it turned off again hold on okay i said low

02:11:08.280 we'll turn back hold on chat yo let's see some crisis king in the chat man

02:11:13.560 these clowns and chat remember man i haven't slept in days i didn't prepare for this debate

02:11:18.760 i really just tweeted hey guys give me some verses and i'll use zirka brain to explain them

02:11:22.740 i didn't think it'd be this easy but i really want to do one with my footnotes that i have i

02:11:27.680 have one year's worth of trinity footnotes i swear to god by the end of this year i will be the

02:11:34.560 highest level debater for the trinity stop lying you 100 prepare for this debate you you sent me

02:11:40.000 your notes in your preparation you 100 of preparation i asked you panda panda did i

02:11:45.180 prepare for this debate or was i talking to whores until mike called five minutes before entry

02:11:49.320 everyone here saw what the fuck i was doing there's 10 people here you stupid snake fuck

02:11:54.160 okay you sent me your notes which notes are preparation yeah those notes are a tweet i just

02:12:00.240 said i said chad what do you want me to destroy him with because no pre-surpassed and then you

02:12:05.540 messaged me saying these are my notes for the debate yeah okay from my tweet they're literally

02:12:11.520 from my tweet you idiot that's what preparation is no preparation is using my notes the ones from

02:12:18.000 my folder my book i actually finished the bible and wrote my own footnotes from canada that are

02:12:24.580 uploaded and scanned into the pdf if i use those i'll fucking this guy will kill himself if i use

02:12:31.040 gold. Okay. Don, do you feel like you won this one? Yeah, I do. Pretty handy. You sound

02:12:43.120 convinced, bro. It's like, you have to just let go of the lie. I feel like I kind of won,

02:12:51.160 dude. You know, I mean, that's, that's the beauty of like, when I used to look at your

02:12:57.800 youtube channel you used to have a like glow like a holy spirit aura now it's like barely a flame

02:13:03.180 you can barely spark a kaioken transformation you're pathetic and i'm fucking literally peaking

02:13:08.300 as a fucking ascended and i know you guys want me to stop yelling and master the super saiyan form

02:13:14.340 in the hyperbolic time chamber maybe i have to stay in the fucking holy spirit form all day

02:13:18.680 but it is a big big toll on my body you know

02:13:21.720 you're not a dragon ball guy i love dragon ball z

02:13:27.280 favorite character go favorite character go goku why why it's how i learned how to draw

02:13:36.080 no because because goku's archetype is based on god sacrificing for everyone

02:13:43.980 yeah no greater love than he who will lay down his life for his brethren

02:13:48.740 yeah i agree with that do you think goku is really the father's son you you like dude you're you're

02:13:54.940 pretty much saying so who is who is jesus in dragon ball z then well jesus is the father to

02:14:02.240 to us trinitarians right okay so who is god in dragon ball z then oh cool wait so who's the

02:14:09.220 father uh the father oh let me think let me think there's so many characters the father would be

02:14:16.120 goku's transformed uh forms but they'd have to be on the same power level if you think about it

02:14:22.180 right so that wouldn't make sense there'd be a hierarchy yeah i think it's it's a hard analogy

02:14:27.500 to make but okay i hear you goku's god form is red right that's the savior form jesus christ

02:14:36.940 goku's blue form is the holy spirit that he charges up and then there's the the final form

02:14:47.380 but they're all equal right mastered ultra instinct nigga which is the white form the

02:14:54.960 father with the white hair okay same character right yeah also hold on hold on when goku does

02:15:02.720 you know kamehameha what about the various wait hold on what about the various this is gonna be

02:15:09.260 perfect if if you know how they shoot beams and ki from their hands can you can they do it from

02:15:14.800 their mouths like yeah they can you can right the napa does it a lot of them do it so imagine

02:15:21.820 can goku do a kamehameha wave with his feet yes or no i've never seen that no he does that i think

02:15:30.120 it was in dragon ball he does it right he can yeah okay no more anime talk let's move on from

02:15:34.600 dragon ball z no no no no no this is my you can leave you can leave if you want to leave

02:15:40.840 you can leave i don't want to talk about dragon ball z

02:15:43.660 hold on it's about christ can gohan do a one-handed kamehameha i don't know zerika i haven't watched

02:15:52.080 okay let me answer he does in the cell games now look at this if you're saying they can shoot a

02:15:58.040 kamehameha beam high energy beam their beam their energy life force their spirit their vigor

02:16:03.440 from any part of their body watch the word of god is it a part of god look kamehameha the word

02:16:12.380 shoots that's a part of goku that's the same essence spirit and vigor that's literally

02:16:17.680 fucking christ you idiot okay do we have closing statements on this debate final thoughts on the

02:16:23.260 trinity uh anything let's move on from yeah again so the my biggest thing with um the doctrine of

02:16:34.960 the trinity is what it does to people who believe in the trinity and this doesn't apply to everybody

02:16:40.720 but the bible makes it pretty clear what are the metrics by which you are considered a child of god

02:16:48.200 that you're considered a christian that you're considered born again that you can be assured you

02:16:52.920 have salvation and none of them include uh believing that jesus is literally yahweh or that

02:16:59.940 the trinity is true or anything like that you got verses and this is my final statement so let me

02:17:04.980 just like get off you know a couple of minutes on uninterrupted um i just want to show you a few

02:17:10.680 verses here uh for everybody i'm put it up on the screen for my stream but um okay

02:17:18.700 okay romans 10 9 if you confess with your mouth jesus is lord and believe in your heart that god

02:17:27.300 raised him from the dead you will be saved so if you can even if you don't believe in the trinity

02:17:32.800 but you believe jesus is lord and you believe in your heart that god raised him from the dead

02:17:36.480 according to this you'll be saved right okay and then let all are continuing by this you know the

02:17:44.940 spirit of god every spirit that confesses that jesus christ has come in the flesh is of god so

02:17:52.120 if you confess that jesus christ has come into the flesh right you are of god everyone who believes

02:17:56.600 that jesus is the christ is a child of god this one is incredibly clear everyone who believes that

02:18:02.220 jesus is the christ the anointed the messiah the chosen one is a child of god and then everyone who

02:18:09.140 loves the parent loves a child and then of course who is it that overcomes the world but he who

02:18:16.560 believes that jesus is the son of god so if you believe jesus is the son of god you have overcome

02:18:24.260 the world revelation chapter 3 verse 12 tells us what happens to those who overcome he that

02:18:29.780 conquers i will make him a pillar in the temple of my god never shall he go out of it and i will

02:18:35.280 write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which comes

02:18:40.640 down from my God out of heaven and my own new name. So if you're telling me that even though I

02:18:47.520 believe Jesus is a Christ, right, and I disciple after him, right, I try my best to walk as he

02:18:53.380 walked. I make him my Lord of my life. You're telling me I'm not a child of God because I

02:18:59.660 denied a trinity this verse says that quite clearly and the last verse i'll show you which

02:19:06.300 i think is very important second john chapter one verse nine anyone who does not remain in christ's

02:19:13.820 teachings but goes beyond it does not have god the one who remains in that teaching this one has both

02:19:21.380 the father and the son so it's saying going beyond christ's teaching you don't have what is the

02:19:26.660 show me show me where jesus christ teaches the trinity it's not a metaphor nigga

02:19:34.840 anyone who does not remain in christ teach so you gotta show me where christ teaches

02:19:43.560 the trinity show me a teaching that is when you you try to explain

02:19:48.340 it's the word nigga say it it's the word nigga so this is my final message is it is it teaching

02:19:54.780 the word the bible the word condemn not lest you go around condemning people you know i'm saying

02:20:05.320 same people are not christian because they don't tell you demon that jesus never

02:20:11.120 you are doing service to the faith right we need to love all each other right that is

02:20:22.860 this these man-made doctrines is not what saves you what saves you is following the lord jesus

02:20:29.340 and being loving to your brothers and sisters and so that's just the emphasis i want whether

02:20:34.060 you're a trinitarian or unitarian or anything else right this is what matters right is jesus

02:20:40.800 christ is jesus lord do you believe he died and was raised from the dead do you follow him do you

02:20:47.980 love your brethren this is what matters that's my closing statement okay great nice you're really

02:20:52.580 convincing people of that one what's teaching mean anyway is that the word or is that a metaphor

02:20:58.000 no we can look up the definite the actual literal definition of teaching

02:21:01.420 this is exactly biting from the apple or excuse me it's a fruit knowledge division we could define

02:21:09.240 defined that he wants to keep defining till he makes jesus transgender don't listen to these

02:21:13.480 kind of snakes it's fucking obvious it's in your dna okay so the word the word teaching means

02:21:19.360 doctrine according to the bible doctrine right a teaching that which is taught and is the doctrine

02:21:26.640 the word instruction is it yeah is it the word the teaching of jesus are the things that he taught us

02:21:33.840 so is it the word is it the word you got to define what you mean by the word

02:21:39.040 is jesus literally his words or is jesus his teachings i mean in a sense

02:21:45.540 jesus is your your version is he's the most powerful metaphor in the heavens

02:21:51.340 no my version is he's a son of god human it got even worse it's a human metaphor

02:21:57.560 the bible says that jesus is a human brilliant yeah just the human

02:22:02.640 is a human he's a son of god he's the resurrected human interesting wow keep going come on keep

02:22:12.160 converting let's say you convert someone a christian today you almost got one person here

02:22:15.600 you got that fucking mentally ill dude in chat oh that's just a muslim yeah so your turn brother

02:22:21.960 your your turn for a closing statement okay

02:22:25.720 can i say my favorite i don't want to be repetitive but john 10 30 i and the father are one

02:22:41.840 don't bite from the fruit of knowledge and keep dividing your thoughts

02:22:48.560 don't become whatever this guy turned into you become a black transgender activist that takes

02:22:56.360 people away from the trinity it's much more simple the truth is much more simple god is not a

02:23:02.800 deceiver this is all his cope this is from my my notes i only have one okay

02:23:09.160 soul world spirit past present future birth life death father mother child liquid solid gas

02:23:21.980 father son holy spirit the trinity is your reality how the fuck are you having trouble grasping

02:23:31.420 All right chat

02:23:35.800 So let's

02:23:36.540 We can get a consensus now

02:23:38.080 We can get ones for

02:23:40.760 Ones for Zerka

02:23:42.600 And twos for Don

02:23:43.640 Don

02:23:46.060 Last thought

02:23:46.940 Anything you want to leave with

02:23:49.800 I would say for me

02:23:50.860 Listening to a lot of that

02:23:52.720 The major point that

02:23:55.820 I think that I wanted to see you

02:23:58.100 Hammer home

02:23:59.640 Was the fact that he was saying

02:24:01.400 just blindly believe in the book just have faith and don't think for yourself because thinking is

02:24:06.460 satanic but then also when you brought up verses from the bible that contradict what he was saying

02:24:11.520 that's immediately when he said well don't believe that like use the one that's easier to believe

02:24:17.320 this one is like a child can understand so he was saying if you think for yourself

02:24:22.320 then that's satanic but also you are going to think for yourself if it's easier to understand

02:24:28.000 yeah i mean context is important right you can't just read any of these verses in isolation

02:24:38.280 and come away with a conclusion uh and like i said that verse that he said that verse has led

02:24:43.760 many people to believe in oneness moralism when they take it when they want to interpret a certain

02:24:48.740 way some people come to the conclusion of the trinity and then some people come to the conclusion

02:24:53.100 that is just speaking about the unity that christ has with the father in the same way how we have

02:24:58.460 unity with him and the father like it says in john chapter 17 so yeah man obviously you got to read

02:25:05.000 the bible and think obviously you would not give a bible to a toddler and expect them to walk away

02:25:10.580 and know and to be able to teach the scriptures or understand it but yeah you know i mean i imagine

02:25:17.040 he was just being you know hyperbolic there but anyway yeah brother we need to read the bible

02:25:22.800 from back to front in context believe what it says and you'll be all right but ultimately

02:25:29.060 the most important thing is that we love one another and that we follow christ we obey christ

02:25:35.840 you do those two things you're all good to go so there's really there's no mention of the trinity

02:25:41.000 once in the bible no no where did that belief stem from how did that start you know i'm not

02:25:48.740 an expert on the history of the trinity you know i'm saying so uh but you know if i had to pin it

02:25:53.900 to something i would say it was a catholic church the roman catholic protestants don't believe in

02:26:00.060 the trinity no protestants do believe in the trinity a lot of do i mean i can't say all

02:26:05.460 right some protestants are oneness and they don't believe in trinity some are unitarian and they

02:26:10.180 don't believe in the trinity so yeah okay what were your thoughts on on my moderating zirka's

02:26:16.520 gonna go on this he's gonna start tweeting and call me a snake and say that a 2v1 do you think

02:26:20.660 that i was fair it's it's you got to admit chat it's difficult to moderate this dude don i i

02:26:27.940 admittedly maybe i'm biased because i also don't believe in the trinity but you were being

02:26:31.980 respectful this is almost like three hours of a debate i don't think you really you didn't give

02:26:35.580 one ad hominem attack he was saying he was swearing he called you a retard he was calling

02:26:40.540 you names you stayed stoic the whole time which i which i personally think is commendable i think

02:26:44.900 you answered his questions and he was saying you guys can make a compilation you can make a

02:26:48.480 compilation if you really want to you guys have to admit especially the the catholics in here

02:26:53.300 watching how would you have moderated that any different how are you going to be able to steer

02:26:57.640 the conversation when it's especially when he's talking about dragon ball or when he's talking

02:27:00.820 about his viewership what is the better way like when he's doing kamehameha when he gets up to

02:27:06.000 i don't know put on a mask or do more coke what's the better way to moderate based on how i did well

02:27:11.560 what are your thoughts on yeah i think you did a you know a great job personally you know i'm saying

02:27:17.060 i feel like you actually gave him a lot of a leash you feel me like you he was able to like do his

02:27:22.660 zirka thing and that's what everybody showed up for for they want to see zirka being zirka i wanted

02:27:28.340 to see zirka being zirka it was pretty fun on my end to just like witness it live coming at me

02:27:33.740 yeah um yeah i thought you did a great job bro you know i'm saying i appreciate it uh when you

02:27:40.440 when you when you stepped in i mean if you ever watch a formal debate you know i'm saying you

02:27:46.620 gave him a lot more leash a lot more slack than the average debate you know it would the debate

02:27:52.520 would have been so what happened when i tried to see her in a direction he got mad and then

02:27:55.520 like slap the camera away so i don't know he's discord debates are one thing but if it's a

02:28:01.300 moderated on a stage with two podiums it's going to be different especially with allocated time

02:28:05.100 yeah i know i think you did a great job bro and i you know i enjoyed the debate i thank you for

02:28:09.980 putting this together and um you know i thank just zirka for taking the time to do that that

02:28:14.140 was that was pretty fun it was fun you would do it again it seems like he would like to run it back

02:28:18.180 uh yeah i'd do it again that was fun that was fun okay he wants to do it specifically about

02:28:24.860 about mary are you gonna continue streaming you want to go um yeah i'm gonna continue what's the

02:28:31.200 time it's 10 30 i'm probably gonna continue streaming yeah okay i got some i got some

02:28:35.300 reactions to cover too and i just i want to say to the chat for the people that um because they're

02:28:39.980 they the chat really likes zirka you can see the z's they put the trumpet emojis i don't want

02:28:44.960 anybody to see what's going on and start doing drugs like i'm very anti-drug i've been personally

02:28:50.600 sober for three months and if you could see the way he's jittering stuff like that it is

02:28:54.520 entertaining and some people like do need adderall to function blah blah blah for whatever reason

02:28:58.720 sometimes they're they're addicted to different things and so some people they get used to using

02:29:03.600 adderall to function but i'm very anti-drug and i don't want any like especially younger guys to

02:29:08.020 watch that if you like him to be inspired by that to do that what i did notice for from having it

02:29:12.700 on my stream a lot i'm not trying to say this to like be snakey but some someone donated one time

02:29:17.900 twenty dollars and was like yo shout out to you and uh sneeko and zirka i just railed up a line

02:29:23.140 i got my motorbike out front i just got off a great day of work i'm about to go watch the stream

02:29:27.820 and do some lines and i'm like bro i do commend the fact that he's probably brought some people

02:29:32.940 to christ but think about how many people he's also brought to cope so everybody watching do

02:29:39.000 not do drugs don't see that it's entertaining but you don't want to go down that rabbit hole

02:29:43.780 and zirka would definitely say the same thing that's not something that you want to do um and

02:29:48.240 please just it's not the route you want to go down yeah yeah man well thank you bro for having

02:29:56.560 me on uh this was this was fun this was cool and uh you know shout out to zirka and yeah you know

02:30:04.320 god bless you bro all right god bless man hey so you're very close to islam man did you ever have

02:30:10.220 that conversation with shake with man i set you guys up in a group chat it seemed like uh you guys

02:30:14.980 are going to speak but i'm not sure if that ever came yeah i never followed up on it you know i've

02:30:20.960 just been very preoccupied with the stuff i'm doing i mean i don't i think i'm the farthest

02:30:26.120 from islam i've ever been but i am the most loving and sympathetic to muslims i've ever been

02:30:32.180 you know i'm saying i've i've never been more certain of my faith in christ and my trust in

02:30:37.740 the bible than i am today but at the same time all the experiences i've gone through and the

02:30:43.500 studying i've done has made me you know my heart very you know soft to my muslim brothers and

02:30:50.800 sisters even though we don't agree theologically and on jesus you know i have no ill will or

02:30:57.600 hatred in my heart towards the islamic community so we'll set up that debate in the future and i

02:31:04.420 think that that conversation you probably want to talk privately instead of do it live and yeah

02:31:09.580 appreciated that man good luck to you god bless definitely brother all right god bless you bro

02:31:14.820 peace talk to you

SNEAKO - July 26, 2023

SNEAKO Hosts Trinity Debate With Young Don & Zherka!

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