SNEAKO - August 10, 2023SNEAKO Interviews A Transgender About God
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Summary
In this episode, I speak with a practicing Quaker, a trans woman, and advocate for trans issues in the LGBTQ+ community. We talk about what it means to be trans in the 21st century, what Quakerism means to her, and why she believes trans people are worth fighting for.
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well what's your frame of thinking i mean like i'm a practicing quaker uh i think that kind of
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hangs a lot on how i look at it and we believe in equity and like just uh again that simple
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premise like a lot of religions have that like world universal love everybody kind of premise
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the way we kind of look at it is like the light of gods and everybody so therefore i can't punch
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you to go back to that or you're worth consideration and that uh each every single
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person on the subway platform is worth fighting for you know what i mean men don't have to just
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be this we don't have to have just one partner we can be open with ourselves i might be pansexual
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if i find a partner that's pansexual in the future i'll be very happy about that why because we can
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all be open about ourselves and that's how it works because in actuality all of these are
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different circumstances taken on a case-by-case basis if you would have a relationship with a
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trans person yes i would and why because they're a person person first and foremost trans women are
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women it's where the table i have to say but you know what they're just women okay they're women
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trans women are women then you would just say women are women wait right but i don't have to say
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women are women but i have to give the context the reason why is for example do you know that just
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yesterday uh july 31st there was a homosexual man that was stabbed in a parking lot for dancing
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okay he was stabbed in a parking lot for dancing the lgbt community still has problems booby just like
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the black community still has problems and all the other ones so i don't know if it's clear but i'm a
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trans woman and quakers have had uh uh trans members since the 1770s so like i wasn't out as
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trans at the time but i think something subconsciously kind of attracted me to that
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uh religion and also uh yeah and it's also i like how they practice because like we all just sit in a
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room and stare at each other in meditation until somebody wants to speak up on what the god has to
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tell them you know what i mean and uh that's you know like you hear about religious practice was
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actually a thing you do over and over and over again and i think like having that outlet of that
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form of meditation especially when that's like not focused towards like what's inside of me but
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what's like outside for all these people around you uh i think it's just uh helped me in my life when i
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have a lot of struggles and you know i desire power you know what i mean because i don't get a lot of
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power in my life as a trans woman you know there are a lot of trans people in quakerism uh yeah there's
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quite a few trans people in my church uh depends on which um house of worship you go to but uh
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i can name six quakers who are trans or gender non-conforming so uh and you know outside of you
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know going to the certain bars in new york city you kind of have a hard time finding more than six
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trans people in the room at once you know what i mean yeah i i say for the first person to tell you
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this women are women okay i don't like saying trans women are women because i think it's uncomfortable
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because trans women want to they they hold out to social performance and the necessary all the
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necessary aspects of being a woman the feminine the feminine criteria the feminine condition and
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the feminine ideal that's what it is and for that matter how we understand how gender and sex work
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in the duality then they are women but was that a trans woman on the in this chair like three people
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ago pretty manly guy and you know what you know this comes with a transition with that i have to ask
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you a gotcha type question do you think that kids should be able to have transgender surgeries
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uh kids are not getting transgender surgeries i would say uh i would defer to what the medical
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community says and gender affirming care uh a lot of times people uh hear about kids getting access to
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uh gender affirming health care and they think surgeries because a lot of times people just
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look at our thing and think like oh it's sexual so immediately they think about the balls or whatever
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gender affirming care to kids is usually social uh stuff where like they get access to uh like a doctor
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or they're able to dress in the way that feels right for them and then they get uh um
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uh puberty blockers to stave off this decision until they're 18 and mature enough to make this
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decision for themselves so uh yes that's 100 not what i said did i mention the word surgery and
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should they be able to get surgeries uh i defer to what the medical community says and most of them
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will say no i mean some kids get top surgery uh they get their breasts removed but also i have plenty
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of cis women friends who get breast reduction surgery nobody ever gives a shit about that twice
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right i don't really trust you and this kind of feels like a bullshit thing so go fuck this up