SNEAKO - April 06, 2024


SNEAKO Interviews Daniel Haqiqatjou

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Talmud debate at Queens College genetic engineering control technology
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Nicolas Kenn De Balinthazy
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On this episode of the podcast, we are joined by a good friend of ours, Dr. Yitzchak Goldstein. We talk about his journey to becoming a Torah scholar, his experiences with the Anti-Defamation League, and what it means to him that he is considered an anti-Semite.

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00:00:00 So what do you think your main focus is with what you do? Are you a die? Are you a scholar?
00:00:05 Are you a debater? I've seen your concept for a while. We spoke before. I remember I even I
00:00:09 reached out to you before I went on this podcast. I think after October 7th, that's when way more
00:00:14 people started talking about Zionism. And I've been talking about it for a couple of years now,
00:00:18 but that's when more people were looking to me to speak about the subject. And I went on,
00:00:23 actually, I'll just be honest about it. I went on Bradley Martin and Sarah Safari's podcast.
00:00:27 It's called the Mommy and Daddy podcast. And I wanted to, I think it was like October 8th.
00:00:31 It was like literally right after October 7th. And I wanted to make sure I had all my talking
00:00:35 points down and I wanted to make sure I was sharp and everything. So I reached out to Daniel and I'm
00:00:38 like, I need to go and we had a conversation. I was making sure that I knew the right facts and I was
00:00:44 saying the right names of the hospitals and everything. And that I got all the dates and
00:00:48 everything correct. And then I went on the podcast and it was just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
00:00:51 And you were the one that I reached out to, to be sharp with the debating because I've seen you debate
00:00:56 quite a bit. I've seen you debate Christians. I've seen you debate atheists. I've seen you debate
00:01:01 enemies of Islam. And I'm just wondering, like, what would you consider your background? What do
00:01:06 you call yourself? Yeah. The generic term is, is die, um, like caller to Islam. So I do a lot of 1.00
00:01:16 different types of content. Like debating is what I've been doing really a lot of for the past two
00:01:21 years. Um, and that's really effective, I think, because it's interesting. People like conflict.
00:01:27 People like to see which arguments or which ideas are going to win out. Um, so there's a competitive
00:01:32 aspect to it. Um, but I also have write articles, write books. Um, I teach classes online. Um, I do like
00:01:41 shorter streams, uh, or shorter videos where I analyze different, uh, topics and politics and religion.
00:01:48 So it's like muslimskeptic.com is the site that I have. And, uh, also it's on YouTube for now.
00:01:55 It might get banned at any time. Uh, cause I don't know if you heard, but the ADL targeted me.
00:02:00 I know. I did see that. I want to say that we stand with you with that. The fact that the ADL
00:02:03 targeted you, I think it's a badge of honor. Now at first, when I saw this image of my name being
00:02:08 written on an IDF missile, I was really taken aback and I was kind of shocked. But then after a while,
00:02:12 I was like, you know what? This means I'm doing something right. If the ADL has to write a hit piece
00:02:15 on you specifically, I think that it's a sign that you're doing something right.
00:02:20 Inshallah, you know, may Allah accept it.
00:02:22 Yeah, you seem a little nervous.
00:02:23 I was shocked too. I mean, I was shocked. Like why would the ADL specifically, like
00:02:28 they couldn't mention me in an article, but have an article just about me. It's just bizarre. Like,
00:02:33 cause you know, it's not like I have a massive following of millions of people. I mean, total,
00:02:38 maybe it's close to a million, but for the ADL specifically to write a hit piece on me,
00:02:43 it came out of nowhere. But the thing about it is it's completely bizarre because what they're
00:02:49 accusing me of is I'm taking like, I'm taking passages of Jewish scripture out of context.
00:02:56 And that makes me an anti-Semite.
00:02:57 Did you read the Talmud? Is that what it was?
00:03:00 Yeah. Like in, in some of my debates, like I'm quoting passages from the Talmud. Like I recently had
00:03:05 a debate with a Jewish scholar. And prior to that, I gave a talk at a college in New York on Judaism.
00:03:12 It was supposed to be a debate like between me and a rabbi, but the rabbi backed out and they
00:03:16 didn't like bring a replacement. So it was just me talking about Judaism. I bring, I bring these
00:03:23 passages from the Talmud and also the Bible. And actually like the Jewish students there, 1.00
00:03:31 they loved it. Like they, not all of them, but there were a couple that were like, yeah,
00:03:35 you really opened our eyes. Like everything you said, we were fact checking you as you're speaking
00:03:40 and everything that you're citing from the Talmud is accurate. Um, uh, but you opened our eyes. We
00:03:47 have to do some soul searching. So that was their response. Wow. So they thought they were going to
00:03:51 see a debate, but instead Jews just signed up to go to Talmud study with a Muslim.
00:03:55 Um, why did the rabbi back out? Did they tell you, they didn't say give a reason, but I assume like
00:04:04 it's just, they, they know they can't respond to some of these passages. It's like really outrageous
00:04:10 stuff that you find. Can you tell me the one that, um, can you tell me some that really got them angry
00:04:15 or just, or one that shocked the, the, the one that opened up the Jewish's, um, the Jewish students
00:04:21 eyes. Well, uh, one, I'll tell you the funny aspect of it because, uh, the, the, there was like a huge
00:04:29 attempt to cancel the whole event. Like the Jewish students were trying to cancel the event and
00:04:34 they were saying this, Daniel, he's an anti-Semite, et cetera, how they do. Um, yeah, yeah, how they do.
00:04:39 But then the, uh, university administration even spoke out like the president of that college,
00:04:44 Queens college came out and wrote an email to the students and said that, you know, this event
00:04:49 is happening. It has the speaker, Daniel. Hey, I do, I find his views personally repulsive. Like
00:04:55 he, he condemned me by name, but you know, in the interest of free speech, you know, this is the
00:05:00 Muslim students that are having him. So we're going to allow the event to take place. So, but the
00:05:05 university actually brought a lot of security for the event. And there was maybe five or six
00:05:12 security guards in, in that hall where I was speaking. And they even assigned one, uh, police
00:05:18 officer, like campus police to stand like within six feet of me the whole time, like a bodyguard.
00:05:24 And what was funny is that most of the security, they're black, they're African American. And then
00:05:30 there are like these passages in the Talmud that talk about the word like cushy, a cushy. So what,
00:05:36 what is cushy? It means like black person. Uh, and the Talmud is basically saying that black people 0.91
00:05:43 are, uh, have the curse of ham. Like there was this son of Noah named ham who, uh, was on the arc, 0.89
00:05:51 uh, Noah's arc. And then he committed an act of like fornication or sexual intercourse basically. 0.99
00:05:57 And then that was forbidden. So he was cursed for that. And he was cursed with black skin. 1.00
00:06:02 So that's in, that's in the Talmud. What? Uh, yeah. There's yeah. That's, and, and also with
00:06:12 certain rituals, like in certain rituals, um, if you're a cushy, you can't do certain rituals in
00:06:17 Judaism. Like what? And you can't have certain positions, like certain rituals in the temple, 0.65
00:06:22 like certain rituals, uh, in the temple. Um, what rituals in the temple? Like the details, I'll have to
00:06:29 look exactly what the details are, but we can pull up the passages if you want.
00:06:34 Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, this is, that's, that's proof from the Talmud right there.
00:06:38 The funny thing, the funny thing was that I could see like the, uh, security guards,
00:06:43 like crossing their arms and then the Jewish students were sitting there, like trying to 0.82
00:06:50 look straight ahead. They're like trying to do BLM or something. It's funny. Cause I get in debates
00:06:55 with people all the time. There's this Twitter page, Kira won't miss. And I was telling, um,
00:06:59 him or her, I don't know, in a group chat that Judaism is an ethnicity, almost more than it is 0.98
00:07:04 a religion. They bind together by their, their ethnicity. It's supposed to be traced down to the
00:07:09 specific tribe. And you can only be Jewish if your mother is Jewish, like ethnically, uh, you never 0.86
00:07:14 hear about people reverting to Judaism or converting to Jews. It's, it's more of an ethnicity and a race
00:07:20 than it is, um, a faith. Yeah. They, um, you can convert to Judaism, but it's like a long process.
00:07:28 I just recently was talking to a Jewish scholar on, on my own channel and he was explaining that
00:07:33 you can convert, but we don't seek conversion. Like, it's not like Islam where you're like, 1.00
00:07:38 people are doing dawah and they're calling to Islam and saying, you know, this is the benefits of 1.00
00:07:43 becoming Muslim. This is the truth of Islam. They don't do that. They don't have dawah. Um, 1.00
00:07:48 but you can convert, but even if you do convert to Judaism, you still won't have the same status
00:07:53 as, uh, a ethnic Jew, like according to the religion. So when we're like, that's the thing,
00:08:01 like I'm only talking about what the religion actually teaches, what the Talmud actually says,
00:08:05 what the Bible actually says, what some of the top rabbis in history have said. Um, but obviously not
00:08:12 all Jews accept Jewish teachings. Not all Jews will have this kind of racist view. And I always
00:08:18 put that disclaimer because, and that's, what's so shocking about the ADL family saying I'm anti-Semite
00:08:23 as if like, I have this animosity towards Jews, but you're like a convert to Islam. There are Jewish 1.00
00:08:29 converts to Islam. And if Judaism is an ethnicity, uh, there are Jews who have converted to Islam and
00:08:36 now they're Muslim Jews. And in Islam, they have the same, they don't have any different privileges.
00:08:41 They're all the same. It's not like you can't do certain rituals. If you're a reaver, if you're a Muslim, 0.96
00:08:45 you're Muslim, simple halas, but what can they not do? What can a Kufi black people or the ham black 1.00
00:08:51 people not do in Judaism? So let's pull up the, Blaine, pull up the passage. How are you able to read 0.99
00:08:59 the Talmud? Isn't it really hard to interpret? I, every time I try to talk about it or read it, it's like,
00:09:03 oh, these are debates. They're just conversations. It's not actual scripture. You know, like it's very,
00:09:08 like, it's hard to figure out. Well, that's what they claim, but it's considered the oral law. So
00:09:15 they believe there's an oral law and a written law. The written law is the Torah, um, or the Hebrew
00:09:21 Bible. And then the written law or the oral law is the Talmud. They believe it was given to Moses on
00:09:26 Mount Sinai and Moses didn't write it down. He just conveyed it orally. And it's just been passed down
00:09:32 until today. That's their claim. It's a claim that is not backed up by anything, but, um, it's still
00:09:40 considered just because it's like the, the rabbis talking to each other, like in the Mishnah and the
00:09:44 Gemara, that doesn't mean that it's not from God. Like they believe it's actually from God,
00:09:49 even though they won't admit it. Like that's the apologetic. Like when you point out some of this
00:09:53 anti-black racism or anti-Arab racism, or the idea that, uh, Jewish people are, um, you know,
00:10:00 considered to be the chosen people of God, they'll say that, Oh, this is just debating rabbis
00:10:05 debating. It doesn't mean anything, but that's just an apologetic. According to traditional Judaism,
00:10:11 the Talmud is the most important source of Jewish law because it's considered to be the oral law from
00:10:16 God. So is that true of the stuff? Like, I don't really want to pede all of it. It is Ramadan. I'm 1.00
00:10:20 in Medina, but like the stuff that the Talmud says about like three-year-olds and goy and all this
00:10:25 stuff. Yeah. I mean, um, there are some inaccuracies because I see on Twitter, people share like these
00:10:33 long lists with, Oh, did you know, on Judaism and it cites like all of these different, uh, quotes and
00:10:39 passages. Some of the, that stuff is actually inaccurate. Like there are some, uh, fake quotes
00:10:45 and fake citations. To make Judaism look bad. Yeah. Yeah. It might be actually, it might, Mossad actually 0.76
00:10:51 might be putting that out. It might be actually Zionists putting that out to say that could,
00:10:55 to condition people to thinking like, Oh, this is just fake stuff whenever they see, uh, quotations
00:11:01 from the Talmud. So you have to be careful. Like, um, everything that I cite is backed up and
00:11:06 I usually link the website. Like it's a specific Jewish, Jewish website, Sefaria that has all
00:11:12 these texts, but like the, the stuff about the cushy, like, um, I don't know if there's share
00:11:17 screen, but I can just read it to you. Yeah. You can do, you, other one works. Oh, there
00:11:23 is share screen. Yeah. If you go to the bottom that you could see, um, share skin in the bottom
00:11:28 middle. Oh, okay.
00:11:31 Let's see. Where's the choice.
00:11:39 Welcome to discord. It's better than zoom and whatever the other people debate you on.
00:11:42 Um, yeah, I usually use zoom or stream yarn tab.
00:12:00 All right. Got it.
00:12:04 You see, yeah, the text. Yeah. So concerning the cushy, the Givor, the love can, the Kepaia,
00:12:18 the dwarf, the deaf mute, the imbecile, the drunk, and those with ritually pure marks, their 0.99
00:12:23 conditions disqualify a person from performing the temple service. So like there are different 0.97
00:12:28 temple services, like certain sacrifices that you have to make. Like everyone's talking about
00:12:32 the red heifers nowadays. Like that's, that's the kind of sacrifice that you sacrifice the
00:12:37 animal. Then you burn the animal, um, until you get its ashes. So certain services like
00:12:42 that. Um, so we, we can know for certain, we can know for certain that Jamal and Dequavius
00:12:47 are not going to bring the jaw. It's not going to be a black guy who brings, who does the cow 1.00
00:12:54 sacrifice and summons the antichrist. Correct. According to Beharot 45b. Okay. I'm good. Wait, 0.99
00:13:01 so I'm good because I'm part black. I don't, do I, am I considered cushy?
00:13:06 I don't know. I guess so. Yeah. If you're part black, yeah, you would be. 1.00
00:13:10 So wait, did the chat, it's not, it's not going to be me. Okay. I beat the 0.97
00:13:13 allegations. Great. Wow. Okay. I want to, I wonder what the other temple services are,
00:13:20 but we'll, we can learn that another time. Um, that's, have you ever, have you ever lost
00:13:25 a debate every time I've seen your debates? And I think you've gained a lot of credibility,
00:13:28 um, over the past six months or so, I saw you pop up and then I saw you get some feed
00:13:34 like criticism. I, uh, I don't even remember what it was for. And then I remember you standing
00:13:39 outside of Majid debating somebody. And then I think you cooked him. What, what was that
00:13:43 about? You were staying outside of Majid, um, debating somebody about what, what was that
00:13:48 about? Yeah, that was Sohaib Webb. So, Sohaib Webb, um, is one of these Imams. Uh, he studied 0.93
00:13:57 in Egypt for a while at Azhar university. If you know, know it, it's like a big Islamic 1.00
00:14:01 university, the one of the oldest, uh, if not the oldest. And, um, so he was this very prominent
00:14:07 American Imam, like back in circuit 2008, 2009. Anyway, he was so prominent that he would
00:14:13 be featured on like, uh, nightly news or like good morning America. Like they would invite
00:14:18 him to programs like that nationally. And, and he would say, you know, my name is William
00:14:22 Webb. He's a convert too from Oklahoma. Uh, but at some point, like he became like very liberal.
00:14:31 And he started like promoting like very liberal things. Um, and that was part of what our debate
00:14:37 was about, but basically he, um, he kind of has lost that popularity that used to have 10 or 15
00:14:44 years ago, but recently, like when Andrew Tate converted to Islam, uh, he can't, he, he posted 0.92
00:14:51 something, uh, against that, or it's something critical of that. Like, oh, we're going to wait and
00:14:56 see, you know, Andrew Tate is like not a good person. And we'll see what his Islam really 1.00
00:15:01 mean. It was kind of like that kind of attitude, you know? Um, and so I, I made a video on it.
00:15:05 I was like, you know, this is, this is wrong. Like, why does he have this kind of cold harshness
00:15:10 towards Andrew Tate? But, you know, he has a really soft attitude with people who are like
00:15:16 really deviant or like really messed up. And the example, one of the examples that I brought
00:15:21 is that he, um, basically, uh, praised, uh, this woman, uh, who you can say quote unquote
00:15:30 hijabi, uh, who appeared in playboy and was interviewed in playboy. So I saw that it's
00:15:36 like, she's kind of like a goth satanic girl, like hijabi half off. Like she's like, Ooh, 1.00
00:15:40 I'm stripping with my hijabi type of, but yeah, I saw that. 1.00
00:15:43 Something like that. But he like praised it. And he like linked to the play for playboy
00:15:48 article, which you shouldn't be doing as an Imam, let alone just a normal Muslim. So 1.00
00:15:53 he, uh, so if he's going to be critical of Andrew Tate, then he should look at himself
00:15:57 and what he's. Yeah. Like, yeah. Like, why are you so critical of Andrew Tate? But you
00:16:01 have this kind of soft attitude towards people who are doing, uh, who have a history of bad
00:16:06 things and they don't apologize for it. At least Andrew Tate, like he is just a new Muslim. 1.00
00:16:11 He repented wants to change. And yeah. So that's the, it's like adult, it's a big double standard.
00:16:17 I called him out for it. So he comes to Houston and he's at a message and he's giving a talk,
00:16:22 but for some reason in the middle of the talk, he starts calling me out and saying, Oh, Daniel,
00:16:28 why doesn't Daniel man up and come here and talk to me? And he can just make videos. He's
00:16:33 like a keyboard warrior, bring your cameras, you know, I know. I saw, I saw you outside the
00:16:38 Majid and it was like, like a hundred brothers outside there. And you're just debating this
00:16:41 guy face to face. I was like, I was surprised to see you like outside, like really, um,
00:16:45 you know, confronting someone like that. He called me out and said, you know, question
00:16:50 my manhood. So I was like, send me the location, like tell me where and when. Send me to Addy.
00:16:55 I'm a pull up. You really pulled up. You really, he dropped the Addy and you pulled up and you
00:16:59 slid. Exactly. So it was funny. It was really funny. Cause I, I brought up the fact that he's
00:17:05 like defending playboy or promoting it. And he just didn't have a response. Like all he could
00:17:10 needed to say is like, okay, I made a mistake. That was a stupid thing to do. You're right. 1.00
00:17:15 That's not something like a proper Muslim should be doing, but he just doubled down. So it made him 1.00
00:17:21 look really bad. And then he just, yeah, there's no excuse for that. That playboy shoot. I don't want
00:17:26 to show it up during Ramadan, but like that shoot is very obvious. You could take one look at also
00:17:29 playboy is probably run by Zionists. I don't have to check, but I guess if you look at the Wikipedia,
00:17:33 I bet playboy was created by, you know, who's, uh, and also the fact, like, if you look at the
00:17:38 image, she's like half dress and she's not wearing the hijabi properly. It was definitely the shoot 1.00
00:17:42 was designed to go and disrespect, uh, the purity that hijabis are supposed to have, but I've seen 1.00
00:17:47 you have other, several other debates. I want to also talk about your book. I was in London recently
00:17:51 with Muhammad hijab. I was at a bookstore that was in the Majid and I saw your, your book there.
00:17:56 Um, what, what, what was the book called again? Modernist menace to Islam. 1.00
00:18:01 Is that what is, what is, um, can you describe the book? I want, I want to read it. I didn't
00:18:07 get a chance to get it. Yeah. So it's about this attack by modernism against Islam. Like 0.97
00:18:13 modernism is a philosophy that, uh, destroyed Christianity. Basically like when we look at
00:18:19 Christianity or even Judaism or Hinduism, all these religions, uh, were attacked by this
00:18:26 idea of modernism. Modernism says that, you know, we need to embrace the human mind.
00:18:31 And reason and science and innovate and constantly be changing and updating, innovate, innovating.
00:18:37 Whereas religion says, oh, well, we need to stick to our books, you know, what God has
00:18:42 revealed and what our forefathers have practiced. And so modernism says, no, this is backwards.
00:18:49 This is holding society back. Uh, we have to, you have to cut the chains, cut the chains of
00:18:54 religion and accepts progress, constant progress. And there's this kind of idea that people a hundred
00:19:00 years ago, a thousand years ago, 10,000 years ago were so backwards and they were so, um, immoral and 1.00
00:19:07 irrational. And then as humanity continues to, uh, go through time, it advances and progresses and
00:19:12 people became more rational and more moral and more sophisticated. This is like progressivism. So this
00:19:18 destroys like your religious belief, because if you accept progressivism, then you have to basically
00:19:24 say that, oh, like the average Joe on the street knows more than, you know, my prophet did 1400 years
00:19:30 ago, or more than Jesus 2000 years ago, or more than Moses or, or the Hindu sages or whatever.
00:19:36 So this is, this, this idea of progressivism is kind of embedded in what people understand history to
00:19:43 be. It's kind of like, uh, we're all indoctrinated if you grew up in the West or even in the, in the East
00:19:49 with this kind of progressive view of history. And that's what really erodes and destroys people's
00:19:56 faith over time, unless you counteract it. And, you know, all of these things like, oh, Muslims are 1.00
00:20:01 backwards because of the way they treat their women. Muslims are backwards because of the way they dress. 1.00
00:20:05 Muslims are backwards because of the laws that they have. And they don't drink alcohol. They don't do 1.00
00:20:09 drugs. They don't, uh, gamble, et cetera. This is backward. Like, why are you letting religion 1.00
00:20:14 dictate your life? We have science and reason now that's the, that's the answer they claim.
00:20:20 But like, look at the world that we're living in. It's like a dystopia. Look at the filth that we're
00:20:25 surrounded by. Like where, where has science and reason really led humanity? It's just constant
00:20:31 L's like constant destruction, um, around us. Like the people can't even get married. Like you can't
00:20:36 even find someone to love you and be your faithful partner. Like everyone has this kind of huge body
00:20:42 count and all these problems that's coming from modernism. That's coming like everything in red
00:20:47 pill that people talk about everything in, you know, with, with the degeneracy of modern society,
00:20:53 that's all coming from modernism and this kind of turning your back on God and believing that
00:20:59 the human mind and science are the answer. Like that's, that's the modern idol that people are
00:21:03 worshiping. Um, so how do we counteract that? Like, how do we really debunk that idea and break that
00:21:09 idol and show that no religion and believing in God and following the prophets that that's the true 0.84
00:21:16 answer. And then when you get to that point, like you take the God pill, then, then you're in a
00:21:22 position to take the Islam pill. Like why is Islam the only true religion? And then you prove that. 1.00
00:21:28 And there's a lot of evidence that you can talk about. And I debate that as well.
00:21:32 You literally just described my journey to Islam, like word for word, you know, this,
00:21:36 this idea that progressiveness is, is good and that you should be able to do anything and that freedom
00:21:41 and acceptance and all this stuff. And then kind of embracing red pill when you realize that
00:21:45 feminism makes men simps. And so it's kind of a reaction to that and like, oh, well, 1.00
00:21:50 I need 50 women all the time and I'm a man and all this stuff. And I'm a real man. If I, 0.98
00:21:55 if I cheat all the time, and then you realize how empty and how unfulfilling that life is
00:21:59 and how all everything that we keep trying to adapt and all these ideologies that we invent
00:22:03 to go and cope with the modern society, all of it is, is unfulfilling and it leaves a hole in your heart.
00:22:09 And then you, you find your way to God and then you find your way, okay, well,
00:22:12 what's the one book that hasn't been corrupted in 1400 years? What's the, the one perfect prophet?
00:22:19 And all the prophets were, were perfect, but the message was, was diluted and changed. And so,
00:22:23 until the prophet Muhammad, until he, you know, delivered the perfect message. And 0.96
00:22:29 that's, that's how I got to this point that, that describes literally my journey.
00:22:33 Exactly. So I would definitely want to read that book. I'm curious hearing you describe that.
00:22:36 Uh, have you ever heard about the Unabomber? Yeah. Yeah. The Unabomber talks about that problem.
00:22:43 Like in the Unabomber, Bomber manifesto, he talks about how science and progressiveness,
00:22:47 he talks about liberal ideology and how university professors and the constant need to adapt and how
00:22:52 technology is pushing people away from what their true self is supposed to be. But he was MK ultra it. 0.94
00:22:58 And he was never really, I don't think he was even fully capable of embracing Islam or, 1.00
00:23:01 or discovering it, even though he was, he had an extremely high IQ. I think that somebody like him,
00:23:06 Ted Kaczynski who ended up, you know, he mailed bombs and did terrible things, but also his diagnosis
00:23:10 of the problems in the West were extremely accurate, but he never took that final step. Do you think
00:23:15 that he would have ever found Islam or what do you think about his manifesto?
00:23:20 Uh, I think that people invited him to Islam when he was in prison, but ultimately he didn't accept it.
00:23:26 Uh, I think he was, I think he was like very autistic and I don't know why, um, you know, 1.00
00:23:32 he might've had some kind of issues, but, uh, he ultimately did not accept Islam from what I can tell.
00:23:38 Uh, but in terms of technology, um, and the industrial revolution and industrialization being
00:23:45 a disaster for the human race, I think there's a lot of truth to that. I think there's a lot of truth to 1.00
00:23:50 how technology continues to, um, destroy human life and it will eventually lead to like, if things
00:23:57 continue, it'll eventually lead to the extinction of the human race. Because if you look at the way
00:24:03 that technology works, it's, it's a, the, a big problem is centralization of power because who is,
00:24:09 as we become more technologically advanced, like who's controlling, um, these technologies, like,
00:24:16 like the Tesla, for example, uh, I always was a fan of the Tesla and wow, look at a cool electric car.
00:24:22 And then I realized that, wait, the Tesla is like, it's like having an iPhone. Basically,
00:24:28 if Apple wants to shut down your iPhone centrally, they can do that. If Tesla gets a call or Elon gets
00:24:36 a call from the white house and says, uh, Oh, we're in lockdown or we don't like this particular person. 0.97
00:24:42 He's an extremist. We want to limit his ability to travel. Uh, Elon can from his
00:24:48 headquarters, just shut it, shut your car down. Right. So that's this, that's centralization of
00:24:53 power. Uh, having a smartphone, like imagine, or a smart house, like this idea of a smart house,
00:24:58 like that's a dystopia. Like if you have a smart house at any time, if you, if the government believes
00:25:04 that you're stepping out of line, you're, you have some wrong thoughts, some wrong ideas, maybe you're too
00:25:09 red-pilled or too God-pilled, then they can shut it all down. Like who would want to put their whole
00:25:14 lives in the control of a centralized government. But the thing is that also affects like children,
00:25:19 like because of genetic engineering, like genetic engineering, you have things like, uh, genetically
00:25:26 modifying children, uh, these designer babies, like you can customize your baby through genetic
00:25:31 engineering. Right now it's seen like, uh, they always push it like in these liberal terms, like
00:25:37 liberalism and the sense of, oh, you have the freedom and the choice to choose who to be your
00:25:41 baby, who to be your child. Like, isn't that great? You, you have extra options. They offer it as like
00:25:47 this freedom that you have, but then it becomes mandated. No, you have to, you, you, the government
00:25:53 will determine like, okay, your baby has these kinds, uh, will have this kind of personality maybe
00:25:59 because of genetic, uh, proclivity to being like, he's gonna be more masculine. And we don't want
00:26:04 masculinity because masculinity is associated with aggressiveness. It's associated with, uh,
00:26:10 non-social behaviors, asocial behaviors. Therefore people who have this particular masculine gene,
00:26:16 uh, that's not allowed. Those babies can't be born. Like that kind of oversight and control of even
00:26:22 birth rates that's on the horizon, even artificial wombs that's on the horizon. Look at Neuralink,
00:26:27 look at mind control and this kind of, at first what Elon is gonna offer humanity with Neuralink is like,
00:26:34 okay, this makes, you can play Mario Kart with your mind. Like you can type our essays and articles and
00:26:39 you can do all your work just mentally without using any interface like a keyboard or a mouse. Isn't
00:26:44 that great? Isn't that wonderful? That's what they first, uh, marketed like a amazing product for you to
00:26:50 buy, but then it becomes mandatory and it becomes a form of control. Like the smartphone is the perfect
00:26:56 example. Like the smartphone, oh, you can do so much on your phone, but now the smartphone is like a spy tool.
00:27:02 Like the, the government can literally, um, just listen to all your conversations, not just through
00:27:08 your phone calls or through your chats, but they can remotely turn on the mic and listen in. If you're
00:27:13 having like an IRL conversation with someone, they can listen into that by just turning on the mic. Like
00:27:18 that's crazy. Like that's the level of, uh, centralization of control that is possible when you have the
00:27:24 technology. So some of these things, uh, um, Ted Kaczynski talked about obviously as a terrorist and
00:27:30 he committed really terrible crimes. Um, but those ideas I think are worth thinking about a hundred
00:27:37 percent. Like, and it's, it's almost, it's the more you talk about it, the more you're become aware
00:27:42 that these people who control technology, like they don't want, uh, they don't really want the
00:27:47 progression of the human race. They just want all the power control. They want to be gods worshiped on
00:27:52 earth that are able to control the rest of humanity, like wage slaves and be able to connect
00:27:56 their minds up to technology and make them do whatever you want. If there's another lockdown,
00:28:00 like maybe they turn off your car and then you can only leave the house to get groceries from
00:28:03 certain hours before, you know, your social credit or your, your grocery credits expire.
00:28:09 And that's really, that's, that's the world that we're getting to. And I think that Islam is the, 1.00
00:28:13 is the strongest ideology and the strongest group of people that's really fighting out,
00:28:17 fighting against that because everything that you read in the Quran, it's, it's anti that, 0.89
00:28:20 and it's pro humanity. And when you realize that they don't want you to have kids,
00:28:24 they don't want you to, to be happy. They don't want you to have a family. They don't even want
00:28:27 you to believe in what gender you are. Uh, they want you to be completely confused and dependent
00:28:31 upon them forever. And when you understand that, uh, inevitably you have to turn to, to Islam. 0.98
00:28:40 Yeah, absolutely. I saw gender stuff is just the beginning. Like people are like, Oh, you, you have the, 0.94
00:28:46 people have the freedom to choose their gender, like whatever gender that you really are under
00:28:50 there. Um, you can now express it through these kinds of pharmaceuticals. Like you have hormone
00:28:56 therapy, you can have surgeries, but like, that's just the beginning. Like, what if you want to be
00:29:01 like a different species? Like you want to be, you don't want to be human anymore. You want to be like a 0.95
00:29:05 wolf or maybe like a elf or a, an alien, like that kind of tech, that kind of transformation,
00:29:13 uh, bodily transformation becomes more and more possible with advances in technology,
00:29:18 advances in genetics. And that's what I mean. Like this is going to lead to the destruction of
00:29:22 the human race. Like people associate the destruction of the human race, like with a
00:29:25 nuclear war, like people are just gonna happen. There's gonna be a nuclear war in the future that
00:29:29 wipes out the human race. But what if there's not a nuclear war, but there's this kind of genetic
00:29:35 engineering or this, this kind of transhumanism where people are being transformed through
00:29:40 um, psychologically, neurologically, pharmacology, pharmacologically, uh, that's like the more
00:29:47 likely this extinction of the human race, because we're no longer human. Like, are you really a human
00:29:52 if you've like completely changed the human mind through drugs or through Neuralink or these kinds of
00:29:58 technologies or AI? Now you're being implanted into people and you've changed your body. Like you've
00:30:03 uploaded your mind to the cloud. Like, is that really a human being anymore? So that that's like the
00:30:09 extinction of the human race. It's incredible talking about it now because every movie in
00:30:12 the eighties was kind of warning us of that, but that's the reality that's coming faster than
00:30:16 people realize. And well, how do you think, do you think it's inevitable? Because sometimes we talk
00:30:21 about the red heifer. We talk about how, uh, the jaw is coming. Is all this prophesized is, are we,
00:30:27 you know, is there any point in trying to avoid the destruction of humanity if it's, if it's just going to happen?
00:30:31 No, you have to, uh, you have to fight against it. And there's a hadith that comes to mind from the
00:30:38 prophet that he says in this hadith that if you're in the middle of planting, like a palm tree,
00:30:46 you're in the middle of planting a palm tree. Have you heard of this? No. You're, you're basically
00:30:52 planting a palm tree, like a sapling. And the end of the world comes, like the end of the end of the world comes,
00:31:00 keep planting it, like continue to plant that, that tree. And it's significant because a palm tree
00:31:06 doesn't really bear fruit until like a whole generation, like a lot of time, years and years
00:31:12 have to pass before a palm tree grows to the size where it can actually give you dates and fruit.
00:31:17 But you know, this idea that the, well, the day of judgment, like the end of the world has come,
00:31:23 like I'm seeing it. And the prophet Sallam is saying, well, keep doing the productive work,
00:31:27 like keep doing what you need to do, what you are supposed to do as a Muslim, 0.87
00:31:33 even until like the last moment, like don't quit. So we should never have this kind of complacency,
00:31:39 we should never say that, Oh, well, it's gonna happen. So let's just sit back. Yeah,
00:31:43 things are gonna happen. We don't know if the end of the world is gonna come tomorrow,
00:31:46 or it's gonna come in 100 years or 1000 years. Only Allah knows, we have to keep doing the work that
00:31:52 is required of us and fighting for the sake of Allah fighting for the truth, speaking the truth,
00:31:57 helping others calling to Islam like that's, and, you know, spreading love, as you say,
00:32:02 like love speech, that's part of what Muslims should be involved with on all the way up until the end.
00:32:09 Let's go. And I actually have for the first time I was I read the seven destructive sins. I was reading
00:32:14 the Quran yesterday in the Majid in Medina. They're very privileged to really dissect the Quran. And one of
00:32:21 one of the major seven deadly sins is turning your back against the enemy and warfare. Obviously, that came from the Prophet 0.99
00:32:28 sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. But it makes a lot of sense. It's like the one of the I think you can just simplify it and say that
00:32:33 it's cowardice is cowering away and letting the enemy win. No matter what to the final breath, you have to keep on fighting.
00:32:39 You can never let these these Satanists, you can't let them win no matter what. So we just have to keep
00:32:45 continue fighting. And there's no point in having like a doomsday type of attitude towards the world, because the only thing you're supposed to do,
00:32:51 even if it is doomed is continue to fight regardless. But I saw you were I want to ask you about this, because
00:32:56 there's a lot of people. It's refreshing speaking to you because I don't find a lot of people that seem
00:33:00 to have a similar philosophy. Obviously, most Muslims do. But I saw you debated destiny quite a bit.
00:33:07 What do you think about his outlook on life? Because he's getting a lot of mainstream press now.
00:33:11 And I think it's just because he's siding with Israel and the other Zionists at Israeli wire like Jordan 0.99
00:33:15 Peterson and Ben Shapiro, these people, they're only allowing him to debate, essentially,
00:33:20 because they're just platforming him because they can agree about the Israel issue. And they both have
00:33:25 obviously completely sold out to Netanyahu. Jordan Peterson famously said, give him hell talking about
00:33:31 the Palestinians. But what do you think about destiny? And how was that debate?
00:33:38 Destiny is really loved by the establishment. Like he's part of this kind of red tube group where they are
00:33:47 loved by the establishment. And probably they're getting paid, like probably they're getting paid,
00:33:53 like by the Democratic Party, for example. Recently, probably destiny is getting paid by the Zionists. 0.98
00:34:00 He's getting paid by the Israeli lobby. And they really love destiny because he talks fast, 0.89
00:34:07 and he can speak coherently, he can like work his way, work his way around arguments. And that's like,
00:34:14 that makes him promoted. Like they're going to keep promoting him. And even though I think maybe now
00:34:20 less so because he's gaining a reputation by just of just being a Wikipedia warrior, like
00:34:26 Joe Rogan said that today, Joe Rogan said, like, he just reads Wikipedia articles. He's ridiculous. 0.89
00:34:32 And I think Joe Rogan is close to Islam, too. But continue. Sorry. 1.00
00:34:35 Yeah, inshallah, he becomes Muslim. But yeah, that's the so if he gets more of that kind of 0.99
00:34:42 reputation, then he's probably gonna fall out of favor. But all he does is parrot establishment
00:34:48 talking points, like is not very complicated, whatever is like the mainstream establishment
00:34:54 talking point, he is going to repeat it. And he's going to use this kinds of they're essentially tricks
00:35:01 to try to undermine in a debate scenario, alternative narratives. And he's very good at that. He's
00:35:08 good at red herrings, like putting ideas and questions into the conversation that actually
00:35:14 don't if you really think about them, they don't really make sense, or they don't actually support
00:35:19 his argument. But they just distract the conversation. Yeah. So hold on, are you saying? Hold on,
00:35:25 hold on, are you insinuating that Muslims are and you're like, what? Yeah. Yeah, so he,
00:35:33 yeah, so he's, that's what he's good for. And he's kind of played that role. And so you think
00:35:39 he's paid, you think he's paid directly by the Democratic Party? I mean, it's possible. Like,
00:35:44 I think it wouldn't, it wouldn't surprise me if that came out. He made comments recently,
00:35:49 right? That he I think that was sarcasm. I'm not sure. I think he was sarcasm. I think
00:35:54 it was hard to tell though. Sarcastic. I saw that. I think he was trying to sarcastically
00:35:59 talk about something that's true. Like, I think that he actually is in discord servers with a
00:36:03 bunch of Zionists. And he's probably getting in those telegram groups. I've certainly seen 1.00
00:36:07 where like IDF soldiers and stuff like that will post Palestinian dead babies and stuff like that.
00:36:11 And he's, I think he's like talking about it ironically to kind of disguise what's true.
00:36:15 I think he's in those in those groups whatsoever. There's no point in, in really guessing about that
00:36:20 too much, but who else do you think could come to Islam next? Because I don't know a guy like him 1.00
00:36:27 ever would, even though I'm sure my Allah got him regardless. Do you think that somebody like I've 0.92
00:36:32 seen a lot of people are talking about issues that we've been speaking about for a long time. Andrew
00:36:36 Schultz said today on his podcast that Ben Shapiro should change the daily wire to Israeli wire.
00:36:42 Andrew Schultz, like a mainstream comedian who sells out arenas is talking about Israel. You could see
00:36:47 Joe Rogan, even though he had Kid Rock on his podcast about two weeks ago, and Kid Rock was
00:36:51 saying that they should just nuke, uh, Gaza. Like he literally meant that, uh, Joe Rogan is now saying
00:36:57 that what he thinks is going on is genocide. And, uh, may Allah bless him too for, for finally
00:37:00 speaking up because most celebrities are silent. Uh, DJ Khaled, for example, very famously, probably the
00:37:06 most famous Palestinian in the world, hasn't said a word because he's been getting paid by Zionist, 0.90
00:37:10 uh, music label executives. Do you think that more people are going to come there? The reason that Islam 1.00
00:37:15 is a fastest growing religion is because a lot of these Tik Tok girls, you're seeing like a lot of 0.99
00:37:19 these, they, them, you know, blue hair type of people like the destiny type of audience. They're
00:37:23 seeing the atrocities that Israel is committing right now. And then they, they look at the Palestine,
00:37:27 they look into Islam and they, they start reading the Quran and they, they revert. Do you think 0.99
00:37:30 anyone big like Andrew Tate, someone like that will come soon? Well, I was surprised that you said Joe
00:37:36 Rogan. Um, that'd be great. That'd be really big if, if he became Muslim, but, um, 1.00
00:37:42 um, he's the biggest name that I can think of right now. Um, who else is thinking about being Muslim? Like
00:37:48 who else would view is on the radar? I think Joe Rogan is getting close because he's an honest guy.
00:37:53 I think he's genuine. And I think people who are, you know, who have an open mind and like are genuinely
00:37:58 curious about the world and want to seek truth, they end up towards Islam. And I think that him talking 0.99
00:38:02 about what's going on in Israel. Also, he has a thing called sober October, which is a month of sobriety.
00:38:07 And it is very similar to Ramadan, actually the month that we have now. Uh, and also his morals, 0.59
00:38:12 they, they align pretty, uh, pretty close with that. So I think it's possible. Um, but also I
00:38:17 want to mention that before we, we did the stream, you, Patrick, David, I was hoping that Patrick,
00:38:21 but David would become Muslim, but what is he Christian? Yeah. He's Christian. Like he born again,
00:38:27 Christian, but he has that kind of, even maybe more than Joe Rogan. He has this kind of open-minded
00:38:33 attitude. Like he's, uh, you know, he's willing to talk to Muslims. He's willing to think about
00:38:39 these kinds of ideas. He cares about God a lot. That's like really, uh, probably more than Joe
00:38:43 Rogan because Joe Rogan doesn't talk about being religious at all. Right. But Patrick, but David,
00:38:48 like that's really one of the main themes that he often talks about is, is being religious,
00:38:53 his Christianity. And it's those people, you, a lot of like those kinds of sincere Christians
00:38:58 that they really care about God, like they're, they often will become Muslim. Um, so like in your 1.00
00:39:04 own experience too, but Patrick, but David is another one. Yeah. I actually be interested for
00:39:09 Patrick, but David to look at that in the Quran today, I was reading, uh, passages just in the
00:39:13 beginning, it's not in the Quran specifically, but they were, they were writing about, um, Jesus or
00:39:17 Isa peace be upon him. And they were talking about how, like, even in the Bible, because we consider the
00:39:22 gospel scripture, it talks about how Matthew was talking about how Jesus went to the mountain and prayed.
00:39:27 And then what it said in the past was just like, how would, if Jesus is God, how would he pray to
00:39:32 God? Like simple things like that. I would like to see him try to, to figure out these questions.
00:39:36 And obviously what's going on right now in Israel has woken up, I think more people ever, I think
00:39:41 that this is probably the most amount of people noticing ever. Can you agree? Yeah, for sure.
00:39:47 For sure. Like the PR disaster for Israel is completely unprecedented. Like there's no going back,
00:39:54 like all the things that they've been working for, for years has come crumbling down basically. Um,
00:40:01 they can't get past this PR disaster. And that's why I think they're just trying to go all out with
00:40:07 Gaza. I think they're trying to really flatten it and take over the land and kill as many as 1.00
00:40:11 Palestinians as possible. And they're like, even like droning, drone striking aid workers, like even, 1.00
00:40:18 like this world, uh, kitchen, uh, like they're, they're just, they don't care. Like it's, they
00:40:23 don't care about the PR consequences because they're like, we're already at rock bottom. So
00:40:27 it doesn't matter. Let's just do as much damage as we can and take over as much land as we can. 0.91
00:40:33 That's like the scary situation because it means that more Palestinians are going to be slaughtered 0.96
00:40:38 by these terrorists.
00:40:39 Has that strengthened your faith? What is your relationship with, um, with your faith? I don't
00:40:45 see you speak about that as much, maybe just cause it's not what I've seen, but has, uh,
00:40:48 has these debates in these conversations, has that made you a better Muslim?
00:40:53 Well, I try to always be a better Muslim. I, uh, you know, I have my wife and my kids and
00:40:59 it's very important. Like when you have kids to be a good example to them and really, uh, embody the
00:41:05 values of a good Muslim, because, you know, even if you were kind of in a situation where, okay,
00:41:11 in public, like you're completely legit, but then behind closed doors, like you slip that when you
00:41:17 get married and you have kids like that, can't, you can't continue that you have to be legit outside
00:41:22 and inside your, your own home. So that's what really encourages me and try, you know, I try to do
00:41:28 my best so that I'd be a good example for, I have five boys, alhamdulillah, and I want them to be
00:41:34 strong Muslims, you know, strong warriors and be good Muslims and legit. So I'm trying to-
00:41:41 Masha'Allah, five. Five is crazy. I mean, your, your wife must be disappointed after like three
00:41:47 or four. She said she wanted a daughter, but too bad. Well, I wanted a daughter too, so.
00:41:52 Yeah, no, that's too bad. I mean, are you going to keep, I don't want to ask you that, but
00:41:55 I think that my theory is that, uh, men who have a lot of boys who have a lot of sons,
00:42:00 they weren't womanizers, but the, the womanizers end up getting punished by Allah by having a bunch 0.98
00:42:06 of daughters.
00:42:07 I don't know if you want to continue or you want to go, uh, continue the stream without me, but I can
00:42:20 go and pray and be back in like five, 10 minutes. Um, or it's fine. If that's all the time we have,
00:42:28 no problem. Do you have to go right now? Um, what was there? I mean, we could end it right now
00:42:33 and continue the conversation. Yeah. I mean, I do want to speak about Madhali's with you,
00:42:37 but maybe I should do that when I'm not in Saudi Arabia. Um, yeah, that's actually better because,
00:42:43 uh, we don't want to threaten your safety. Okay. So, um, it was great speaking with you. May Allah
00:42:47 accept your, your fast and, uh, you know, it was great to meet you, man. I, I wanted to,
00:42:51 let's do this conversation again soon because, um, there's, there's more that I want to ask you.
00:42:55 Absolutely. Thanks for coming on. Pleasure is all mine. And, and I just want to say,
00:42:59 I really appreciate your work, Nico, because you have become Muslim and you've really embraced it.
00:43:04 And we can all see like your efforts and you're calling to Islam, you're inviting people.
00:43:09 And it's really inspiring. A lot of Muslims, born Muslims are finding inspiration from your work. So
00:43:14 may Allah bless you and accept all your works. Uh, keep struggling brother. And, uh, we love you.
00:43:19 Amen. I'll talk to you soon. Love you too. For the sake of Allah. Bye.
00:43:25 Bye.