SNEAKO - SNEAKO Interviews Lauren Chen

00:00:00.000 The majority of Catholics support using birth control. The majority of Catholics support

00:00:04.600 abortion being legal. Zionism has actually been feeding anti-Muslim sentiment in American

00:00:11.500 politics in general, but especially amongst the conservative right. That Pearl likes to talk

00:00:16.140 about the divorce rate a lot. And one of the issues I have with Pearl is that I feel like

00:00:19.720 she'll see a statistic and then she'll base her opinions on it, talk about it a lot without

00:00:24.760 actually understanding it. And she can't escape that she's coming from the perspective of Red

00:00:29.080 Pearl, not the perspective of Catholicism, of Christianity, of God.

00:00:32.740 Nice to meet you.

00:00:34.340 Nice to meet you too. I'm sorry. I never do calls on Discord. My apologies. I'm kind of a boomer.

00:00:39.120 How old are you? Because I was looking at your YouTube really. I don't know if I should ask

00:00:42.080 this, but you've been making videos for a while. I'm 29. So I'm at the age now where I look at people

00:00:48.480 who are on Twitch and I'm like, that's like a whole new thing. I'm too old to start new platforms. I

00:00:53.260 could never. Twitch has been around for a while. There's a lot of people that are much older than

00:00:56.520 you on Twitch. Yeah. But I feel like it's only really gotten big for political people in the

00:01:00.940 past, I don't know, like three years. It didn't like when I started out making videos, it was

00:01:05.300 YouTube all the way. That's basically it. Twitch was only games or maybe some e-girls were starting

00:01:09.900 to, I don't even know what they do. I don't think it's games though, but it wasn't the big thing that

00:01:14.500 it is now with people like Destiny on it. He got banned on there because he said something

00:01:19.040 based for once. I think he said that transgender is real. Oh wait, you're right. Yeah. He got banned for

00:01:23.020 saying that the trannies aren't real, but I don't know how long you would last because Twitch is

00:01:26.840 only left-wing politics. So, you know, you're not supposed to have the, you can't say something

00:01:30.660 like you don't think that democracy is allowed on Twitch. You're going to get packed up.

00:01:34.700 Yeah. I saw Lauren Southern tried and I think she didn't last very long on there either.

00:01:39.900 Well, Rumble would welcome you if you come over here. I'm streaming on Rumble. I don't know if you,

00:01:43.500 if you know that, but I recommend for what you've been saying. And it seems like you're,

00:01:47.600 you're going down the, you're, you're more open with free speech and you're really testing the

00:01:53.120 limits. So I highly recommend that you come to Rumble before they delete you on YouTube.

00:01:57.500 Yeah, I actually, I do have a Rumble channel. We haven't uploaded it in, uploaded there in a while

00:02:02.520 though, because there used to be a mirroring function, but I don't think it works with YouTube

00:02:06.840 anymore. And so it was just kind of my producer, I got a new one and he was like, what platforms do we

00:02:12.420 do? And so I was like, I don't know if Rumble's worth it, but you're right. I should,

00:02:14.880 I should make more of an effort because yeah, YouTube is, I mean, it's YouTube,

00:02:19.640 unfortunately you're not on YouTube, right? I've been nose band two years ago,

00:02:22.720 but you probably shadow been on there. Like all conservatives, if you, uh,

00:02:27.140 Oh yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. All conservatives are going to get it. Yeah. It's just not worth it.

00:02:30.720 Especially Rumble's grown so much, but how was it? Uh, you did a show recently. You were in LA doing,

00:02:35.320 um, uh, some normie YouTube show. Which one? Okay. So apparently I wasn't actually supposed to tell

00:02:41.240 anybody about that. So they, I didn't, I was not aware of that, but when we were there,

00:02:47.100 they're like, by the way, guys, don't say anything until it actually airs. And I was like, Oh, okay.

00:02:53.740 I will not do that then. But yeah, I, I don't think it's going to come out for another month or

00:02:57.800 maybe even two. So it's, it's, it's, it's like you said though, it's a normie YouTube debate show.

00:03:03.320 And I think it's going to be really fun once it airs, but I apparently, I don't think I could talk

00:03:07.700 about it. Okay. Well, you didn't sign an NDA. I could ask more about it. Like that's props to

00:03:11.700 you for respecting that, but you've been traveling a lot. Can I, where are you, where do you, um,

00:03:16.160 where are you from? So I'm actually, I was born in Canada, but I grew up in Asia, which is where my

00:03:21.500 dad is from. So I grew up mostly in Hong Kong, but also lived in Shanghai and Singapore. Um, I,

00:03:27.320 I spent a few years when I was a tween in Canada, and then I came to the U S for college. And, uh,

00:03:34.340 I've been living in Nashville specifically for about two years now.

00:03:38.260 Yeah. A lot of conservatives are there. I know, uh, Brett Cooper from Israeli wire. I think she

00:03:42.100 lives over there. A lot of Christians, but your English is good. I know you probably get that all

00:03:45.940 the time. I'm not saying that because you're Asian, cause I'm half Asian, but I'm saying that

00:03:48.740 because you said you grew up in Shanghai and Hong Kong. Did you always speak English? I know Hong

00:03:52.280 Kong is mostly English. Yeah. Yeah. So when I, when I was in Hong Kong and this dates me, it was very,

00:03:57.880 very British. So I went to a British school there. A lot of things were in English. Um, it was very,

00:04:03.060 very common to have people speak English. I think even the local schools back then they taught

00:04:06.740 English as a second language. Now, if you go, it's a different story though. They teach Mandarin

00:04:10.960 in schools instead of English as a second language. Cause, uh, Hong Kong people speak Cantonese

00:04:14.920 and it's, uh, like fewer and fewer people there speak English. But when I was there, it was,

00:04:19.700 it was almost like a different world. Okay. Some people are wondering if you're a CCP agent,

00:04:23.640 but I don't think you would be because you you're against democracy. So when did you start to get

00:04:28.080 into politics? Like why would, uh, are you, you're half Chinese, half white? I'm guessing.

00:04:32.600 Yeah. Yeah. That's right. And, uh, I'm one of the few people who's my dad is actually the Chinese

00:04:36.860 one, not my mom. Yeah. It's, it's reverse. And my mom's the Asian one of the two. Yeah. That's,

00:04:41.400 that doesn't, yeah. How did that happen? Military? No, actually. So my parents, they met at McGill,

00:04:46.340 which is a Canadian university in Montreal and yeah, they got married and then they ended up moving

00:04:51.420 back to Asia when I was really little. Yeah. That's the, that's the most popular university

00:04:55.860 in Canada. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Yeah. And my, my mom is kind of one of those white people who's

00:05:01.200 really interested in Asian culture. Oh, cause she's like a weeb. She was studying Chinese. Yeah,

00:05:06.340 exactly. She was like a weeb before weebs were things. She was studying Chinese, really interested

00:05:10.240 in the culture. She really wanted to live over there. Uh, so she, she describes herself as an egg,

00:05:16.420 like white on the outside, yellow on the inside. She's, she's one, like one of those white people.

00:05:22.540 Yeah. Right. Right. Do you accept her? And I, a lot of those, you know, Asians like to make fun of

00:05:26.280 those people, but a lot of them know more about Asian culture than Asian Americans do.

00:05:31.340 Oh yeah. My mom is like 100% into it. She, I mean, my parents had a full on Chinese Asian wedding.

00:05:38.380 She wore the traditional gear. She was very committed to it. Like she lived in mainland China

00:05:42.740 over, I mean, about 30 years ago, this was when mainland China was not like it is now where they

00:05:47.720 have like all internet everywhere. I mean, Shanghai is a modern city. She was there when it was like

00:05:52.760 bicycles through white rice fields, people eating rats. So she was, she was a hundred percent

00:05:57.380 committed. Um, and she, she still loves Asia. People were eating rats. Oh yeah. They do that in

00:06:03.200 rural China still less in the big cities now, but a hundred percent they do that in China.

00:06:08.100 Was that the malware? I never heard about that. I thought that would be like a Hindu Indian thing.

00:06:12.740 No, I think Chinese culture, there's a saying that basically if, if an animal's

00:06:17.300 back, uh, faces the sun, you're pretty much good to eat it. So they'll, I mean, they'll eat almost

00:06:23.560 any animal. That's why, unfortunately that includes things like dogs in some regions as well. Again,

00:06:27.900 not in the big cities that won't do stuff like that, but in, in rural places that, yeah, they'll eat,

00:06:32.140 they'll eat rats, they'll eat dogs, they'll eat anything. I thought that was just like a

00:06:36.180 racist joke online. That's real.

00:06:38.620 Unfortunately, that's real. I wish it was just a racist joke, but there's the Yulin festival where

00:06:45.320 every year they do eat dogs. A lot of people within China are even against it, especially in

00:06:49.800 the big cities where they're modernized. They have dogs as pets, but it's actually, it's really,

00:06:54.100 really terrible.

00:06:55.460 Oh, okay. Yeah. I will. I'm going to blame the Chinese on that. I'm half Filipino. So hopefully

00:06:59.980 we're good, but I got to do my research. But I don't think we eat dogs over in the Philippines. I hope

00:07:04.460 not, but I was going to ask. I know. I, I, I wish it wasn't a thing. And anytime someone calls me a

00:07:10.060 dog eater, which happens, I'm like, you're not wrong. I mean, not personally, but that's, that's a

00:07:15.280 fair knock against, against the Chinese culture. I did not know that. I really thought that that was

00:07:20.480 just a joke, but how do you go from being a Waysian girl, right? With the Twinkie mom. Is that

00:07:26.080 the right? No, it's reverse Twinkie. How do you go from that to American politics?

00:07:32.200 So I went to American schools after I left Hong Kong. So Hong Kong, I went to British school

00:07:38.480 when I was in Shanghai and Singapore, American schools. But so I, I, I guess when I was learning

00:07:46.180 civics, learning history, it was from an American perspective. My teachers were American. My

00:07:50.600 classmates were Americans. And then I guess I was just kind of naturally interested in politics.

00:07:54.860 And then I wish I had this amazing walkaway story where I could say, I used to be this

00:07:59.900 blue haired leftist, but then I left or left because conservatives love that. They eat that

00:08:04.460 up. They eat that up. It would be so much more popular, but unfortunately that's never been

00:08:08.600 the case. I've never been liberal. Make up a fake OnlyFans and then renounce it. And then

00:08:15.860 you're going to get on Israeli wire. It's, it's a great path to success. That's the perfect

00:08:19.380 Griff right now for a woman in politics. I highly recommend. Former OnlyFans. Yeah, it's true. I

00:08:24.540 mean, it is, it's kind of frustrating because not only I understand giving those people attention,

00:08:29.100 like, Hey, this is really cool how you, your mind changed. Let's talk about it so we can

00:08:33.300 replicate that and have more people's minds changed. But the problem with the conservative

00:08:37.140 movement is that they'll put those people in positions of leadership. So you'll literally

00:08:41.180 have someone who was a Democrat, maybe three years ago, weighing in on actual policies of what

00:08:47.020 the right should or should not do. It's like, I don't know if that's a good idea. You guys,

00:08:50.940 I don't know if we should do that. That's why now that the mainstream conservative movement,

00:08:54.660 most people who are vocal are basically just center leftists or liberals are not actually

00:09:00.780 conservative. So where would you place yourself? I'm sure you've taken the political compass test.

00:09:05.180 Where were, where does that dot on the graph go for you? So I don't, I don't know. Okay. So like

00:09:11.380 right there, um, definitely right wing where I'm at libertarian or authoritarian, uh, depends on the

00:09:19.160 questions that they ask me. Right. That's not the perfect test. I don't think that's the perfect

00:09:23.260 marker. No, no, it's hard because I mean, in some ways I hate the government, which is very,

00:09:29.060 very libertarian and other ways I'm like, well, I don't, I don't know if you should be able to

00:09:32.980 diddle kids. And I know the libertarians are very pro that I also not pro drugs. So I guess it kind of

00:09:38.480 depends on the questions of the specific tests. It's, it's hard to nail me down, I guess.

00:09:42.720 But I guess if you're anti-democracy, then you would probably be okay with, um, some sort of

00:09:49.320 authoritarian regime if it could exist properly. Like I'm guessing that you, you will, you think

00:09:54.160 that Putin's doing a good job. Well, here's the thing. I don't think democracy is not synonymous

00:09:59.340 with liberty. I think the idea that if you have democracy, you're going to have liberty. That's a

00:10:03.160 total lie. I mean, I used to live in Canada. I lived in Canada through COVID. I, we had curfew.

00:10:08.500 I couldn't participate in public life for six months. I couldn't go to a restaurant.

00:10:13.500 I couldn't like sit in a shopping mall for an extended amount of time because I didn't have

00:10:16.880 vax papers. This all happened under democracy. So I'm sorry, but people can't say, oh, democracy

00:10:21.780 means liberty because it objectively does not. And it was the same thing in Australia. That's a

00:10:26.140 democracy. They had quarantine camps where you had to go or otherwise you'd face legal penalties. So,

00:10:32.760 I mean, I'm very, very critical of the idea that democracy, uh, does not exist along

00:10:38.480 side authoritarianism. You could probably figure out you actually, the political compass, I should

00:10:42.580 add the vaccine. They should see how far, how long people lasted with the fake vaccine. Did you last

00:10:47.600 the whole time or did you end up caving in and getting the shot? So I was, I was pregnant while

00:10:53.200 all of that was going on. Um, so it wasn't, I mean, maybe I would have caved if, if I, I would have

00:11:00.300 been fired or something like that, but I think being pregnant, I was just not, there was no way that I

00:11:05.840 was going to take something like that. Not knowing the side, like the long-term effects on, on a baby.

00:11:10.340 That's just ridiculous. I would never do something like that. And the, uh, the people at the, like

00:11:15.460 the doctor's appointments, they would every time try to pressure me. Uh, and it's just like, no,

00:11:19.520 I'm not, you're insane. If I can't even drink certain types of tea, because we don't know the

00:11:23.620 effects. If I can't use certain face creams, there's no way I'm taking this, this vaccine.

00:11:27.180 If you haven't done long-term studies, absolutely not.

00:11:29.180 You can't use face creams while you're pregnant?

00:11:31.800 Yes, a hundred percent. There's, there's certain types of face creams that if you're pregnant,

00:11:35.500 or even if you're breastfeeding, they say, no, we don't know. There's not enough studies. So

00:11:40.060 the chemicals in it, it's best that you avoid it. We just want to be super safe. And then

00:11:44.240 simultaneously, they're like, we think this vaccine is pretty legit. So you should probably go ahead

00:11:49.740 because we think it would be worse if you didn't do it. I was like, well, that's not really good

00:11:53.700 enough when it's your child's life. So yeah, I, I didn't do it.

00:11:58.020 Yeah. Props to you for standing strong. Most people didn't like all these people who pretend

00:12:01.940 to be freedom fighters and you know, they, they yap all day about, you know, how we should

00:12:06.580 resist and stuff like that. But like, I know we're like a lot of wealthy people. And I think

00:12:10.760 they deserve pushback and criticism to this day for, for folding and doing this because

00:12:15.240 none of you wanted to take it. And all of you just compromised because you wanted to go to a

00:12:18.980 restaurant. I mean, Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson are good examples of that. Perfect examples of that.

00:12:24.040 They both took it. Ben Shapiro called people who didn't want to take it dweebs. Ben Shapiro now

00:12:29.720 says, oh, well, I was wrong, but I just, you know, I trusted the government and the health officials.

00:12:34.180 It's like Ben Shapiro, why are you trusting the government at all? You're supposed to be

00:12:37.780 conservative. Isn't that a red flag that the guy who's supposed to be leading the conservative

00:12:41.700 movement, as soon as the government tells him something, he was just like, I guess we believe

00:12:45.520 him. I see no reason to question this.

00:12:47.260 Did you ever fall into the Daily Wire, Israeli Wire trap? Did you believe in their,

00:12:52.100 in their propaganda or I'm trying to figure out how base you are?

00:12:55.160 So this, uh, they actually offered me a job around seven years ago when I first started making videos.

00:13:03.500 They, I was, I was living in Montreal and they offered, they wanted me to move out to LA.

00:13:08.660 Um, they actually, they offered me so little money though, that I would have with LA taxes and cost

00:13:15.360 of living, I would have had less money in my pocket. So I didn't do it. But, um, how much was it?

00:13:20.160 I'm really glad that I didn't because I don't think I would have lasted long. Uh, they don't

00:13:25.280 like me there anymore because I'm critical of Israel. And I mean, the CEO, I had a space with him

00:13:31.120 and Nick Fuentes and he basically admitted that like pro Israel is a line, the Daily Wire, just,

00:13:36.960 you have to tow it if you're going to work there. And I'm, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to do that.

00:13:41.620 So, um, yeah. And I think over the past several years have become a lot more disillusioned with

00:13:47.820 people like Ben Shapiro. He's just, I think he's displayed how establishment he is. I, you know,

00:13:53.320 I consider myself dissident, right. And he is basically as neocon as they come.

00:13:58.060 Can I, how much do they offer? What's the base salary at Daily Wire seven years ago?

00:14:01.920 Well, I mean, I don't know if this was the base salary. This is just what they offered me.

00:14:08.060 It was like 120 K or something like that. Yeah. That's, that's not worth it to sell your soul to

00:14:13.580 Israel. No, that's definitely not worth it. And that's, that's the thing. If I'm going to grift,

00:14:18.460 if I'm going to swallow my opinions and tow the party line, I might as well go all the way and at

00:14:22.740 least do it on the left where they can pay me more, where I can have mainstream popularity.

00:14:26.560 It's not worth it to only go halfway and grift, have these terrible opinions. They have to claim

00:14:31.560 that are mine only to be on the Daily Wire. That is, that is like the worst of all possible

00:14:35.900 scenarios. It is rare though, to find a conservative that's aware about the Zionist regime and the

00:14:42.080 control that Israel has. It's very, there's not that many of us on the internet. When did you become

00:14:46.160 aware of how involved Israel was in American politics?

00:14:49.620 So I, growing up in Asia, um, there's really not the same sentiment, uh, loyalty toward Israel.

00:15:01.280 It's not, I wouldn't say it's anti-Israel either, but growing up, I just viewed Israel as another

00:15:06.120 country. There's, there's the UK, there's Canada, there's Israel. All of these are just countries

00:15:11.760 that exist. So I had no strong feelings toward Israel one way or another. When I went to college,

00:15:18.920 I actually minored in Middle East studies. And so you can, with the university I went to do your

00:15:24.660 entire degree, essentially on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that never really interested me, but I

00:15:29.920 did learn a little bit about it in some classes. So, I mean, right off the bat, learning about the

00:15:34.240 founding of Israel, the Nakba Muslims being dispelled, I was never really in favor of that. I was like,

00:15:39.560 oh, that's, that's not great. But at the same time, that was generations ago. And I think that a

00:15:45.160 country can still be, you know, moral and a great place to live, even if the founding was

00:15:50.780 not under the best circumstances. Uh, you know, I would say the same thing about countries like

00:15:54.800 America. So even learning that I didn't necessarily have negative sentiments toward

00:15:59.960 modern day Israel, that started to change though, when I learned more about the current day conditions

00:16:06.940 that Palestinians were living under. That I never understood the justification for, especially,

00:16:14.320 I mean, I, I, I got a lot of praise from the right when I was talking about the human rights abuses that

00:16:20.480 we went through under COVID. Like how, how dare you lock us up? Government monitoring. This is

00:16:25.140 inhumane. You're a tyrant government. I don't, I just wouldn't internally be able to look at the

00:16:31.720 situation in Palestine and think, well, there's no, there's no harm there, right? They're just doing

00:16:36.580 what they need to do. Absolutely. I could never believe that. And so, uh, I didn't really talk

00:16:42.420 about Israel or Palestine very much until October 7th, but I never, I never claimed to be a Zionist

00:16:48.640 either. It just wasn't something that I focused much on. But when I started seeing all of the footage

00:16:53.920 that was coming out of, uh, Gaza, I mean, I, I didn't sleep for days. I have a young daughter and

00:16:59.380 seeing all of those, that footage of those children, I mean, killed in the rubble, their

00:17:04.700 parents holding their dead bodies. It just, I don't know how I could not be affected by it. So

00:17:09.760 I started posting about how that was wrong. And I started getting called an anti-Semite smeared as

00:17:16.100 a Jew hater because I didn't support specifically Israeli action against Gaza. And I mean, I've had so

00:17:23.580 many conservative commentators, people you would definitely know message me and say, I think it's great

00:17:29.080 that you're speaking out. Like, I totally agree with you. We just, you know, I don't want to rock

00:17:33.460 the boat. And it's frustrating because of like, well, if more of us did it, then this hold that,

00:17:39.220 you know, the establishment Zionist narrative has over conservative media, it wouldn't be able to

00:17:43.820 last, right? They can't blacklist all of us. They can't fire all of us. Um, but it's kind of,

00:17:48.740 it has been encouraging because I think we're starting to see more and more people speak up. I mean,

00:17:52.580 you have people like Candace Owens, who's I think part of that Tucker Carlson, absolutely. And I don't think

00:17:57.420 this is one of the things where I don't think you can put like the snake back in the jar. It's out.

00:18:02.240 The footage is out there. People are starting to question why it's, this is the one issue you can't

00:18:07.280 talk about it. Why, as soon as it comes to antisemitism, all of these so-called conservatives

00:18:11.920 who are anti-woke all of a sudden turn into social justice warriors where they're talking about safe

00:18:16.320 spaces and like bigotry, systemic injustice. So I'm actually, I'm encouraged because even though

00:18:23.300 like you are a black sheep in conservative media, if you're not a full-on Zionist, that,

00:18:27.920 that is going to change. That already is changing. It has quite a bit, especially since October 7th.

00:18:33.160 That's when a lot of conservatives, I'll say like the normie Republicans, they started to wake up to

00:18:37.720 that a hundred percent. Um, I have to get, and I think social media has a lot to do with it.

00:18:42.540 Social media, there weren't that many people doing it. I remember I could count on one hand,

00:18:46.100 the people that were speaking about it. It was me. It was Myron from Fresh and Fit. It was Nick

00:18:49.920 Fuentes and Zerka. Uh, there's not, other than that and yay. And I, I, the yay 24 presidential

00:18:55.860 campaign short-lived, but that was when people really started to speak about that. And then

00:19:00.300 October 7th was really like the final blow on that door to, to open up that conversation. And now

00:19:05.640 everybody is, is, is speaking about it. But sometimes it's like, oh, we're Candace Owens and

00:19:10.100 Tucker Carlson are taking credit for something that we were doing and getting canceled for, for years,

00:19:13.520 but it's good. You know, what's more important is this conversation happens. And I saw that space that

00:19:18.080 you did, uh, with Nick Fuentes. And that's when I, I realized like, okay, that this is, uh, this is

00:19:22.320 good. I, I didn't, I didn't know who you were before. And then I started to look at your videos

00:19:26.000 and I'm glad to see that there's, there's more people out there, you know, who are questioning

00:19:30.140 these things. Oh, absolutely. And the, you know, I've never been anti-Muslim. I, I've been critical of

00:19:38.960 Islamic terrorism, obviously, but one of the things that my eyes have really been open to

00:19:45.620 is only over the past several months, really is the way that I think Zionism has actually been

00:19:52.460 feeding anti-Muslim sentiment in American politics in general, but especially amongst the conservative

00:19:58.540 right. Because when I, like, I get accused of bigotry a lot, but the way that I test if something

00:20:04.500 is racist or just intolerant is I'll, I'll say what I want to say, but switch the group that it's about.

00:20:10.280 And the thing is, if I were to say the things like critical of, uh, you know, um, black people,

00:20:17.340 as like the left says about white people, no one have a problem with it. The same is true. If you

00:20:22.320 look at like Jewish people and Muslims, right. You can talk about Muslim influence in politics and how

00:20:28.840 that's not in line with American values. You cannot do that though with, with, with Jewish politicians.

00:20:34.740 Um, so that's something that I'm starting to realize more. And something that I'm also realizing

00:20:40.300 is that the, the animosity, some conservatives do have toward Muslims, um, which I think,

00:20:47.380 yeah, obviously Islamic streams and Bat-Tarid, like all of the disclaimers, but there is an actual,

00:20:52.660 like dehumanization there. I was appalled at how many people who follow me were saying that basically

00:20:58.760 everyone in Gaza is a terrorist and that they're all, they should basically all deserve to be

00:21:03.220 bombed. That was a, that was a big wake up call for me.

00:21:06.300 Yeah. People could actually go around saying that and believing that there's a lot of conservative,

00:21:09.400 I don't want to give them any, any credit, but I think the audience knows who some of these people

00:21:13.080 are. Uh, they say that everybody in Gaza deserves to die because they're all terrorists. And that's,

00:21:17.340 you know, from 25 years and even more, you could argue of all this propaganda. I'm, I don't know

00:21:22.380 how much of a deep dive you've been doing into how far the lies go, but 9-11 is, it was very

00:21:28.720 questionable. And I personally believe that it was, um, I don't want to say it because I don't

00:21:33.940 want to get like in too much trouble, but you know, it wasn't what they said. 9-11 was not what

00:21:40.660 they said. It was, uh, and that it was orchestrated in order to get American support in the Middle East,

00:21:47.060 right? Because Israel is a small country surrounded by a bunch of Muslims who, you know, do not agree

00:21:52.340 with their values and they wanted support. And so it's war by deception. You got to give credit to

00:21:56.600 people like Ryan Dawson for talking about it. They lied, uh, to get American support for Vietnam

00:22:01.520 war. We lied about the Gulf of Tonkin. Americans lied about the Gulf of Tonkin. And that's public

00:22:06.700 information. That's not a conspiracy. Uh, you can see that over and over again, we understand how

00:22:11.180 important it is to, to have an attack in order to lie and go to war. All right. That's why we lied

00:22:16.000 about, Americans lied about the weapons of mass destruction, the chemical weapons. And so the,

00:22:22.140 uh, the propaganda to smear Muslims for so long that that's what helped me realize that,

00:22:26.940 you know, that there was a lot more to Islam that I wasn't aware of. I'm curious about your

00:22:30.540 theology though. Where do you, where do you align? You know, you're in a very Christian place in

00:22:34.160 Nashville. Yes, I am. Um, so I am Christian. I consider myself born again, Christian. Um, my,

00:22:40.780 I guess, family background is more Catholic and my husband is Catholic. So I'm also, I guess I'm

00:22:46.180 familiar with the Catholic church, but I have a lot of criticisms of it. So I definitely don't

00:22:49.580 consider myself Catholic. Um, and something else, I mean, if you, if you really want to talk about

00:22:55.460 all these issues, uh, what I've been awakened to in regard to the Israel situation is how there are

00:23:01.160 a lot, not unsubstantial number of evangelical Christians who actually believe that it is,

00:23:07.820 it is a divine mandate to support the government of Israel financially, like through taxpayer dollars,

00:23:14.320 uh, Mike Johnson, speaker of the house, he is one of these people. And so not only is that,

00:23:19.580 I mean, that is just flat out heretical. In my opinion, there's no biblical backing to this.

00:23:25.340 I grew up going to church, uh, not, not a very religious family, but still I never heard of

00:23:32.080 anything like that before I came to the United States. It's really this American Zionist Christian

00:23:38.200 belief. And it's, it's absolutely a false teaching. And I think we need to spend more time as Christians

00:23:45.080 discussing this because it actually is leading people. There are pastors who claim to be Christian

00:23:50.500 who are encouraging this war because they believe that this conflict with Israel and Iran specifically

00:23:56.320 is going to bring about the second coming. So they're, you know, instead of being peacemakers,

00:24:00.940 they're trying to egg on an escalation of, of arms and everything like that. It's insane.

00:24:05.420 It's totally insane. Do you know where that, where does that come from the, from the evangelical

00:24:10.060 Christians? Because Judeo Christian values that has nothing to do with the Bible or Christianity.

00:24:15.300 That's something that politicians started repeating. And now so many boomer conservatives

00:24:19.680 that wear the MAGA hat, they know that they are supposed to have this allegiance towards Israel,

00:24:24.480 but they don't know why they know that we're like, they're our strongest ally. Israel's our ally.

00:24:28.720 And like these, they'll talk about the draining the swamp and right, like America first. Okay. But

00:24:33.720 why do you have this allegiance towards this country in the Middle East? And you can't even

00:24:37.520 give me one reason why they're our biggest ally. What do we get from them?

00:24:40.920 They have reasons. There's not very good ones. So one of, I like when I started learning about

00:24:46.460 dispensationalism, which is, I guess the, the sect of Christianity that believes we need to give

00:24:51.380 money to Israel. There are, you know, the Jews are basically still God's chosen people, which I mean,

00:24:56.100 as a Christian, I'm sorry, I'm not going to believe that I meant to be cuckolded in my own

00:24:59.860 religion. Like, no, if you're a Christian, Christians are God's people. Like you, you can't

00:25:05.200 have this, like, as a Christian, believe you, you are a Christian second-class citizen. It just

00:25:10.120 doesn't make sense. It's totally weak. But Keith Woods did a really great thread. He's a really

00:25:16.140 interesting account to follow. He did a really great thread explaining the origins of this

00:25:21.020 dispensationalism. And it actually, at least from what he said, dates back to basically the Zionist

00:25:28.060 influence that tried to infiltrate American churches for absolutely political gain. And as

00:25:34.480 you can see, they've been very successful. And so I'll go back and forth with people who follow me

00:25:39.440 here. Christians are like, Lauren, this is wrong. You know, we have to support Israel. It's like,

00:25:44.040 don't you think it's kind of strange that the Bible would reference a government that didn't exist

00:25:49.500 100 years ago? So Christians in the 1800s, what was their actual Israel? There are just so many

00:25:54.820 ways that this doesn't make sense. But they've actually managed to convince, again, not an

00:26:02.820 unsubstantial number of evangelical Christians, that they have a God-mandated duty to support Israel

00:26:09.160 financially, morally, whatever it may be. And it's kind of terrifying. And when that's the type of

00:26:15.320 loyalty you're up against, obviously, it's going to take time to shake them loose of it. But what's

00:26:19.580 encouraging is that Gen Z is not falling for it at all, all at all, even amongst conservatives.

00:26:24.720 It didn't work anymore. But I'm wondering, what is the, what's the difference? And, you know,

00:26:30.500 stop me if you don't want to speak about this, but why are you not Catholic, but your husband is?

00:26:34.760 Yeah, so there's, there's a lot of differences between, I guess, what I view as like biblical

00:26:44.260 Protestantism and the Catholic Church. So there's a lot of dogma, a lot of theology that Catholics

00:26:51.380 have, that is not present in the Bible. And as a Protestant, I believe in Sola Scriptura, so that,

00:26:58.360 you know, the Bible, that that's basically, those are my religious beliefs, what is found in the Bible.

00:27:05.260 Catholicism has a 2000 year history of church leaders, you know, they have the catechism,

00:27:11.240 their beliefs have kind of changed over time, and there's record of all of this. So personally,

00:27:16.220 I just, I, in no way believe that the Pope more so than me, is in a, in a position to communicate

00:27:24.140 with God and adopt, like new, maybe positions for Christians to follow. And I think there's also a lot

00:27:31.640 of problems with the Catholic Church, the way that they uphold the saints, that feels a lot like

00:27:35.780 idol worship to me. I'm not comfortable with things like immaculate conception. A lot of Catholics

00:27:40.900 believe that, I mean, all Catholics, I think, believe that Mary was sinless, which I do not believe. I see

00:27:49.500 no evidence in the Bible to venerate her in that way. And I think some Catholics also believe that

00:27:53.840 Mary died a virgin. The Bible says that Mary and Joseph had other children, that Jesus had siblings.

00:28:01.400 So there's, there's a bunch of issues like that. Nothing is so great where I won't consider a

00:28:07.300 Catholic person a Christian like I am. I know some Protestants, they will go that far to kind of

00:28:11.800 distinguish the faiths. But I just, the more I learn about the Catholic Church, including its

00:28:18.360 current leadership, Pope Francis, the more I say, I would never trust these people with my salvation

00:28:23.660 or to guide me spiritually. And I will also say, so I did get married in the Catholic Church.

00:28:28.220 For my husband, we had to do a marriage prep class, which I think is a good idea. But in that marriage

00:28:33.800 prep class, we also had social justice aspects added in about racial equality and like environmentalism.

00:28:41.580 And that was just another reminder of why I could never say that the Catholic Church is God's one

00:28:47.720 true church. Well, I had some of the same reservations. I grew up Catholic. I mean, I

00:28:51.540 wasn't, I did actually almost get confirmed. I went through catechism quite a bit, but the hierarchy

00:28:56.460 and Catholicism is something that I could never, like that took me away from the faith, right? The

00:29:01.180 fact that they have the bishops and the popes, it's like, wait, these people are more important to

00:29:04.660 God than me. Like we're, we're all human, right? And then also some of, some of the rituals,

00:29:09.180 but I understand your, your reservations with fully believing that, but what, can I ask you,

00:29:16.480 what's that like having a different faith in a marriage? Like, and what would you recommend for

00:29:19.880 people who are approaching marriage and maybe they're coming across the same obstacles?

00:29:25.720 Well, I mean, we end up going to church a lot more than we would if it were, if we were of the

00:29:31.280 same faith, because I mean, I find it hard to build a community in a church. We started when we

00:29:37.900 were just engaged doing like one week of Protestant worship, one week of mass, but then I was finding

00:29:43.140 it's, it is hard to build those connections if you're only there every other week. So that means

00:29:47.060 that I want to go every week, but then I still want to go to mass with my husband. So then that

00:29:51.240 means Saturday mass, a Saturday evening mass, and then Protestant worship Sunday morning. So it ends up

00:29:56.740 being, you know, it's a compromise. It's absolutely something that we need to navigate. And I know,

00:30:01.920 you know, I was okay, doing a Catholic marriage, it was important to my husband and his family.

00:30:07.500 And I wanted them to feel like I was respecting their beliefs. But also at the same time, the

00:30:13.700 priest that ended up marrying us said a bunch of stuff during our ceremony, I absolutely believe

00:30:18.540 to be, I don't want to say heretical, but definitely not in line with what the Bible says

00:30:23.540 about like getting to heaven. He basically said that we have to help each other work toward heaven.

00:30:28.480 And it's like, that sounds like salvation based on work. So I mean, it's not something

00:30:33.200 that I'm going to recommend. And I'm not going to pretend that it's not something you need to work

00:30:37.680 on. Is it a make or break deal? If you're at least both Christians, but different denominations,

00:30:43.340 I think you can make it work. But it's just one more thing to consider, I guess, if that makes sense.

00:30:52.220 What was the can you explain your reservation with that statement? What do you mean that that's

00:30:56.720 getting to heaven based on works? So one of the criticisms that Protestants tend to have about

00:31:02.920 Catholics is that they believe in salvation based on works based on, I guess, going through things

00:31:10.160 like sacraments, or the idea that you need to contribute something to your own salvation, which

00:31:17.420 generally Protestant belief in, in salvation is that it is purely a gift from God based on grace.

00:31:25.460 It's not something you can earn, we could never earn it, because in that way, you would be in some

00:31:30.460 way responsible for your own salvation. And, you know, the idea that you need to work toward heaven

00:31:35.980 in any way, that essentially means that you've done something to get to heaven instead of relying 100%

00:31:44.000 upon the grace of God, because we know that as sinners, there's nothing we could ever do to make

00:31:49.000 ourselves worthy, you know, without Christ's atonement. So that is one of the other, one of

00:31:55.660 the other disagreements I have with the Catholic Church. What I have found, though, and I will say

00:31:59.800 this is that I'm very, I'm very open to the idea that these beliefs may all depend on the Catholic

00:32:06.820 person. Like I've met Catholic individuals who are really into Mary, they, you know, hail Mary's,

00:32:12.740 it's all about Mary, go to their homes, Mary's everywhere. I think that's kind of idolatrous.

00:32:18.180 But I have other Catholics that I know where they really do focus on Christ. They really do believe

00:32:22.900 that salvation is based on the atonement on grace, it's not something you can earn. So something else

00:32:28.340 I've kind of learned navigating, like interfaith marriage is to not assume, you know, an individual's

00:32:34.080 theology and belief set just because you're familiar with their church. And I think that's also true for,

00:32:38.380 you know, conservatives should keep that in mind for Muslims as well. A lot of conservatives will be

00:32:42.780 like, well, I saw on Twitter or Facebook, this post from one of the Hadiths, therefore, I think all

00:32:49.080 Muslims want to kill me. It's like, there's so many things wrong with that. So I try to approach people

00:32:54.460 of a different religion with some open mind, open mindedness, until I get to know them personally.

00:32:59.420 Right, especially right now, it's important that we focus on what we have in common. And I remember the

00:33:04.380 first day of Ramadan, I had some time to kill this Ramadan is the fasting month. And I was past the Catholic

00:33:10.860 church. And so I grew up Catholic. And I was just kind of, I was just curious, you know, to see what it was

00:33:14.560 like. After so many years, I walked in. And the first thing, you know, it's peaceful there. There's like,

00:33:19.380 there's clearly the presence of something that's good. But I saw a guy like on his knees, and he had his hands

00:33:24.340 up. And it was a it was Mary that he was like, of course, they have the cross there. But there's also

00:33:29.180 like a section of the church sectioned off for Mary in Islam. Like we, we love and respect Mary,

00:33:34.220 she's, she's very important, but we don't pray to anybody besides God. And so I saw that.

00:33:38.700 And I agree with that.

00:33:40.340 You agree to just praying to God.

00:33:42.760 Yes, 100%. And I think a lot of Protestants, they look at Catholics praying to saints,

00:33:47.620 and praying to Mary, and it comes across as idolatry. Like, why are you praying to someone

00:33:53.140 else, even if it's for interested, like, just pray directly to God. That's my opinion.

00:33:58.280 Yeah, cut the woman out and just pray to God. I don't know why you prayed. But that's a pretty

00:34:01.740 big disagreement. And I can move on. But I just I've never met a, I don't know, a couple

00:34:07.380 that has that many differences in their, in their theology like that. Do you think that

00:34:12.020 that's so interesting? And I guess it's because you have a Catholic background, because I've

00:34:16.440 explained this to people who are atheists, or who are not religious, that I'm Protestant,

00:34:21.780 and my husband's Catholic. And it's, you know, something we, we actively work to make it work.

00:34:26.160 And they're like, why? It's basically the same thing. It's like, no, no, it's that there are

00:34:32.820 meaningful differences. Is it something necessarily that's going to come up every single day? But no,

00:34:37.140 there are, there are differences, for sure.

00:34:40.140 And I was looking through your YouTube channel before doing this interview. And I've seen that

00:34:43.780 you've had quite a few videos with my, my former friend, and now I guess nemesis destiny.

00:34:48.920 I think that the presence of somebody like, yeah, you know, we actually did. We actually did.

00:34:54.720 Ironically enough, like I have, I like befriending people that I have disagreements with, because it

00:34:59.360 makes the conversations interesting. Now I can't really do that. Like, I'm too much of a, I guess

00:35:04.460 I have, I'm too polarizing of a figure. And I had the influences got to a point where it doesn't

00:35:08.960 make sense. You know, I can't trust these people. So it used to be fun, like back in high school,

00:35:12.500 college, I'll like, I'll befriend the liberals and like, all the different types, like the blue hairs,

00:35:18.200 those people, I would hang out with them, you know, just so that we could be able to spar mentally

00:35:22.100 and have disagreements and conversations because I found it stimulating. And so destiny kind of fell

00:35:26.340 into that category. But since then, I think that his presence and everything he stands for is why

00:35:31.920 so many people are finding God. I think that someone like him, he's a perfect example of why the

00:35:37.100 spiritual warfare and the spiritual awakening that's happening is so prevalent because guys like

00:35:42.280 him are pushing absolutely nothing. I'm curious about what you think about people like him.

00:35:46.400 Well, I think he presents a very materialistic and frankly, hedonistic view of the world.

00:35:54.740 He's an interesting person because he is, I think, one of the few people on the left who's

00:36:00.460 like actually liberal and not just a crazy woke communist. Like he's not a communist. So he's

00:36:06.320 from that perspective, I think it's interesting to talk to him because like, it's almost like,

00:36:12.060 especially amongst streamers, online people, the left wing perspective is basically full on,

00:36:17.900 you're socialist, you're communist. Like the idea of just a liberal who wants some government,

00:36:22.860 but isn't a full on commie and likes capitalism. That's almost unheard of nowadays. But when it

00:36:27.320 comes to his social stances, it's interesting because I've streamed with him on my pseudo

00:36:33.100 intellectual podcast. And so we kind of touched on OnlyFans a little bit and he acknowledges like,

00:36:37.900 yeah, it's not gonna be good for everybody. But for some people, it's gonna be like really

00:36:40.960 profitable. And I think he acknowledges that there are downsides to promiscuity,

00:36:44.840 but it's almost like he doesn't, he's not willing to make any moral judgments about that in any way,

00:36:51.200 shape or form. It's sort of like, well, it's gonna be bad for some people, probably shouldn't do it

00:36:55.780 all the time, but it is what it is. It's like, okay, well, you're almost letting down your audience

00:37:00.360 base then if you refuse to make a clear statement on what you see happening time and time again, that

00:37:05.960 yeah, it's not just whatever you want, this will lead to negative consequences. But I think he grew

00:37:10.840 up religious and is one of those people who has had a really big back backlash against it. And so I

00:37:16.740 don't know if he's the type of person who would ever cede any moral high ground to like the conservative

00:37:21.300 right or the religious right, even if deep down, he knows they're correct.

00:37:25.440 There's always going to be sort of reservations with those people because they serve their worldly

00:37:29.960 desires in front of like anything that's any greater your belief, right? You're right. You're right

00:37:36.180 to point that out. That's something I noticed with him as well. And you know, I don't think

00:37:39.980 he's special with all the liberal atheists, like the nothingness people is that they'll admit

00:37:44.020 something like an open marriage is bad. That's not bad though. They'll say that an open marriage

00:37:48.580 isn't for everybody and it doesn't work for most people and they'll still actively partake in it.

00:37:51.980 Well, if the success rate is low and you know, it's low, why are you doing that? Like, why are you

00:37:56.180 falling? Like, why would you jump into a plane that with the wing missing? That's a terrible idea.

00:38:01.580 And if it's so low, maybe it's low for a reason. Maybe it's because marriage isn't supposed to be

00:38:07.920 open. So you can say that, well, consent, if we both agree like the, okay, but that doesn't mean

00:38:13.220 it's going to work. That doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. That doesn't mean it's something

00:38:15.780 you promote. You're totally right. Someone pinned a chat. Uh, and I remember we were debating the

00:38:20.740 vaccine about a year ago and he was so distracted from the documentary because he didn't believe in it

00:38:27.720 at all. And I looked over at his phone because he just kept looking at his phone. I thought he was

00:38:30.720 like researching something about ivermectin. I look at his phone and he's on, he's on like

00:38:34.840 Grindr. Like he's swiping on Grindr during a stream where we're debating the vaccine. It's like,

00:38:40.580 it's crazy. Wait, Grindr, that's the gay one, right?

00:38:43.520 I don't want, it might've been, Chad, I don't remember which one it was, Grindr or Tinder.

00:38:47.020 I mean, regardless, they're not that much different anyway, but what do you, how do you

00:38:52.620 communicate with those people, with the nihilist, atheist, liberals? Like what's your,

00:38:56.700 what's your relationship with these people? I mean, so like in my day-to-day life, I don't

00:39:02.020 have nihilist, atheist friends. I just, you know, I have like my mom group chat that I talk to and

00:39:07.720 everyone's like married and we have young babies and we talk about babies. Like that's my actual

00:39:12.300 social circle. That's beautiful. Um, yeah. And it's, it's great. And I, I wish that, you know,

00:39:18.940 the, the, the people out there like destiny, they could see that that lifestyle is still alive and

00:39:24.860 well. I mean, you talk to destiny about this stuff and he kind of makes it seem like this

00:39:28.700 antiquated, Oh, well that it doesn't work for anyone. That's never going to come back. It's

00:39:31.880 like, well, I, I feel like he's in an echo chamber. I think he lives in Miami. You know,

00:39:35.900 he's probably with like a lot of other left-wing people who are all polyamorous and it's easy to

00:39:39.780 think, well, this is just what everyone's doing now, but it's not like you, you make a choice to

00:39:44.580 surround yourself with that type of behavior. And I'm, I would find it just so spiritually

00:39:50.040 demoralizing just seeing everybody going in and out of these meaningless relationships,

00:39:55.680 uh, partaking in totally degenerate behavior. But anyway, back to your question. Um, yeah,

00:40:02.460 I don't really have a lot of those people in my day-to-day life. And so it's almost alien to me

00:40:07.620 sometimes when I'm talking to them online and I have to explain why like having a family is more

00:40:13.240 meaningful than just living for yourself. I don't know if you encounter that, but it's just,

00:40:17.300 it's almost like it should be, it's, it's self-evident to me at least, which, Hey,

00:40:21.800 maybe it's a good reminder that I'm in my own echo chamber too, but it's, it is kind of, um,

00:40:26.440 it is a challenge. I'm not going to lie. Well, it seems like a good echo chamber,

00:40:29.200 your group chat being a bunch of moms raising their babies. Like there's, there's such a thing

00:40:33.360 as a positive echo chamber. That seems like it's conducive to, you know, you're probably

00:40:36.780 challenging each other and trying to be, you know, moms are competitive in their own way. Like who's

00:40:40.960 spoiling the kids. Uh, and, and you're right completely about the soulless environment. Your environment

00:40:45.640 does shape who you are, what you think and what goes through your head and how you raise your

00:40:49.080 family. Miami. Uh, I finally came back to Miami after a month of being in the middle East for

00:40:53.300 Ramadan and, and seeing the way women dress, for example, out here, it does change the, how you think

00:40:58.800 it changes the way your spirit is. Uh, and I think it's good that you're in Nashville, which is, I think

00:41:03.960 one of the most Christian places in America. Can I ask, well, why did you decide to move there?

00:41:07.940 So we, um, we knew we were going to be moving to America for, for a while, just for work and the way

00:41:15.600 Canada was going, it's what made sense. But because I like, we, we work remotely. My husband actually

00:41:21.100 works with me. Um, we've worked together for probably like seven years at this point. Um, so we're blessed

00:41:29.080 that we could live anywhere, but it's almost like we were spoiled with choices. So we, we checked out

00:41:34.860 Florida. Um, it, my husband thinks it's a swamp. He says there are sharknadoes there. He's not wrong.

00:41:40.480 So that was out. It's too hot for him. You know, we also looked at Virginia, but it was,

00:41:44.940 Virginia is pretty blue. It's beautiful. So it's too bad. Uh, we, we checked out Texas.

00:41:49.640 Blaze really wanted us to move there. Never been a fan of Texas. I'm sorry. I know that's not

00:41:53.580 popular say amongst people who are more right-leaning because everyone's really big on Texas.

00:41:57.540 Um, but Nashville was kind of this almost happy medium of a lot of different things we were looking for.

00:42:02.380 No state tax. Uh, my, I like the milder climate, but it's also not too hot where you're just full

00:42:07.880 on like Florida or Arizona. There's a lot of people in the industry around here. Um, and it's,

00:42:13.940 yeah, it's, it's great seeing all of these young families like in Montreal, you don't really see

00:42:18.540 any kids or you don't see many kids. And if there are kids, they're like migrant children. The people

00:42:23.460 who we know from Montreal who are our age, most of them aren't married and don't have kids. And it's

00:42:28.520 just like a very different culture. So that's what was really refreshing about Nashville.

00:42:32.800 There's a lot of immigrants in Montreal. It's cold, like terrible weather, a lot of homeless

00:42:36.320 people. I wouldn't recommend that. Expensive. So expensive. Really expensive for no reason.

00:42:40.400 There's not a whole lot of benefits. No. High taxes. But Nashville, like, is that good food? I've

00:42:46.160 went there a couple of times, but I, I, I've been considering about where I'm going to go because

00:42:50.180 Miami is something not long-term, you know, you're right about it. You know?

00:42:53.520 So the thing with Nashville is that like the meme is true. Like, I'm sorry, but if you have the

00:43:00.340 migrants, you have better food. That's just, it seems to me, I'm not saying it's worth the mass

00:43:04.820 migration, but I, I often joke with my husband that I could open up an Indian restaurant in Nashville

00:43:10.020 and it would be the most authentic Indian restaurant in the state of Tennessee. It's pretty disappointing.

00:43:15.680 Like we were looking for a Chinese restaurant to have, um, dinner at for the mid-autumn festival.

00:43:21.580 And there was this one place that my mom, someone like recommended to her. And I was asking like, mom,

00:43:28.360 this person, they recommended it. Were they right? Were they white? Like, tell me, were they white?

00:43:33.000 She was like, yeah, but they, they've traveled. It's okay. They, they, they say this one is good.

00:43:36.880 We get there. I'm not even kidding. One of the menu items, hot chicken, low main.

00:43:42.920 So hot chick. So hot chicken is like one of the big dishes in Nashville is fried chicken. It's really good.

00:43:49.820 They put that in low main and it had pickles in it. So like you go, you go to get shawarma here and

00:43:56.740 they're going to ask you whether you want ranch with your shawarma. They don't have the garlic sauce.

00:44:02.640 They use ranch. So no, the food here is not good. I'm sorry. It's not good. It's like so many great

00:44:06.660 things, but not the food. Fat white people. I mean, white people are good at like leading nations.

00:44:10.740 They're not very good at cooking. There's not, there's not, uh, the cuisine is not for me,

00:44:14.500 but would you recommend young people to go there? I'm actually surprised that you're 29. I'm sure

00:44:19.040 you get this a lot. I thought you were, uh, maybe mid twenties. You speak like somebody in their thirties,

00:44:23.520 but I thought you were younger because you know, Asian don't crack, but would you recommend like

00:44:27.140 for the young conservatives watching this right now, they're looking about, uh, where to start a

00:44:31.560 family. Do you think that's the best place in the, in the West?

00:44:34.360 So I'm torn because I love Nashville. So many great things about it, but also it's getting

00:44:41.380 expensive because a lot of people are moving. So, um, yeah, but overall I would say absolutely,

00:44:47.400 especially like if you're single, I know it's, it's so hard finding somebody who wants to start

00:44:52.400 a family and get married nowadays. I think Tennessee is one of those places where family is still

00:44:56.520 considered the norm. I have friends who are single in Montreal. They're on dating websites. They say

00:45:00.700 everyone is like polyamorous. No one wants to get married. They're all in situationships,

00:45:04.640 all this weird stuff. Nashville is a normal place. Tennessee is a normal place. People,

00:45:08.660 they date, they get married, settle down, have kids that that's still what's happening here. So

00:45:14.660 based on that alone, I would absolutely recommend it. How did you meet your husband?

00:45:20.040 So we met when I was 21. Um, he's actually my brother's friend's best friend.

00:45:30.700 Okay. So just, it was recommended. It was, uh, it wasn't through a dating app or anything like

00:45:35.620 that. No, no. Okay. So it's probably the right way. Yeah. I mean, I, I consider myself really

00:45:41.360 lucky for that because I've, I've, I've heard a lot of horror stories about dating apps and I mean,

00:45:47.920 it just seems like modern dating is a nightmare. So I, yeah, I consider myself really, really lucky.

00:45:52.260 Absolutely. So it's probably, that's the way to go. I mean, Islam got this right. Again, the

00:45:56.920 arranged marriages is the highest success rate of a marriage dating apps. It's it, you're signing up

00:46:02.340 for it to be temporary because it's, it's making you think that you have so many unlimited options.

00:46:06.700 You're swiping through people like they're just ads on a screen. You're swiping through people like

00:46:10.840 a Tik TOK. So people are starting to reprogram their mind and even dating in general, dating is,

00:46:15.380 is a haram in Islam. You're not even supposed to date, right? Cause the idea of dating is like,

00:46:20.340 you're like testing out a relationship and it's going to be temporary because you're not thinking

00:46:24.680 people in America, young people don't date thinking they're going to marry. That's very few where you

00:46:30.260 could ask a young person, like, are you dating and married? Like, no, I'm like, I'm still finding

00:46:33.720 myself. I'm having fun. Rihanna will get on a TV and do an interview, you know, after showing her

00:46:38.020 nipples for the past decade. And then she'll say like, I'm a mom. Now your twenties are about having

00:46:41.620 fun. Well, having fun. The idea that she's pushing is it's being naked in public and, uh, being a

00:46:47.560 whore. Uh, and now that she's older and she's getting less attention, that's when she's just,

00:46:51.360 she decides to cover up. And I wish that these young women would understand like, no, your,

00:46:55.660 your youth should not be for exploring, having fun and being provocative publicly.

00:46:59.560 It should be, it's better like to be somebody like Lauren Chen. Are you were able to, to find a

00:47:04.800 husband and have kids young. Yeah. And I, you know, I, I always think that even if you're 30,

00:47:10.820 you should still be trying to settle down if you're not married yet. But also like,

00:47:13.660 I look at the life my husband and I have already built together, the history that we already have

00:47:18.840 together, the kid we have together. And I just, I, you know, I can't imagine if I were only finding

00:47:23.220 him now, like there would be so much time that I spent without him, which is great. Like, you know,

00:47:27.400 he's, he's my best friend. He's my business partner. I can't imagine having spent the last

00:47:32.400 eight years without him. It would just be, you know, so empty. And that's why I'm, I'm again, I know,

00:47:38.440 not, it's not that easy to find the right person for everybody, but for the people who aren't even

00:47:42.540 trying, you're missing out. I don't know why you would want to delay finding the person you're

00:47:47.020 going to spend the rest of your life with and who are you're going to build your life with.

00:47:51.380 People are asking about relationship advice. What, what advice would you give? Because it's,

00:47:55.900 you do have that ideal relationship. You know, you had, you have one daughter.

00:48:00.900 Yeah, we have one. She's two. She actually just turned two.

00:48:03.860 Mashallah. That's great to hear. What advice would you give to, to young people

00:48:07.180 who are looking to have a similar relationship like yours?

00:48:14.180 Definitely start trying to find the right person right away. I think I've, I've heard a lot of

00:48:19.960 young women, especially who are unmarried and in their thirties who said like, yeah, well,

00:48:26.200 I want to settle down. I wanted to settle down when I was 30, but it's actually taken me longer to find

00:48:30.320 the right person. And I look at that and I think, well, yeah. It's just don't assume that it's going to

00:48:36.580 be easy. It's not some switch you can flip and be like, okay, the right person is going to show up

00:48:41.640 right away because now it's convenient for me. Start looking right away. Be serious about finding

00:48:47.700 that person. And I recommend like, if you're, if you would move for a job offer, you should

00:48:53.020 absolutely be willing to move for a relationship to be with the person you're spending the rest of

00:48:57.300 your life with. And even with the daily wire, one of the reasons why I didn't take a job with them,

00:49:02.080 even if it weren't for the money, I had just started dating my husband and, um, we hadn't

00:49:06.840 been going out that long, maybe seven months, but I already knew, like, I knew that was the person I

00:49:11.200 was going to marry. And I wasn't about to leave him to go to LA for, for some job. It's a lot harder.

00:49:17.140 It's a lot harder to find a husband than it is to find a job. And I don't regret that decision at all.

00:49:21.600 So just be purposeful, like make it a priority. It's probably one of the most important decisions of

00:49:26.520 your life, but people act as if it's just something you do on the side, finding the right person,

00:49:31.020 especially as a woman, because your timeline is just different. I mean, I, biology isn't nice,

00:49:37.100 right? You don't have the same amount of time as a man. So don't, um, don't put it on the back burner.

00:49:42.180 Yep. A lot of women online, they get really uncomfortable and angry when you pointed out

00:49:45.880 that their, their eggs start to dry up in their mid thirties, but it's just a biological fact,

00:49:50.160 right? It's, um, here it's refreshing hearing, uh, a woman online actually be honest about the fact

00:49:55.600 that they have a clock that men don't have and they should respect it because you can't beat God.

00:49:59.860 You're not going to go beat God's, uh, creation. I'm curious about your take on, uh, just pearly

00:50:05.180 things, right? I'm sure that she, she pops up quite a few Twitter. Pearl's a friend of the show,

00:50:08.780 uh, but she's very controversial, not only to women, but in conservative politics. Cause she's,

00:50:13.320 uh, usually it's, she's always fighting someone. It's either a Christian or a trad con, someone in

00:50:18.400 daily wires, some red pillar. She's always fighting somebody. I'm curious about what you think about her,

00:50:23.060 her position.

00:50:23.520 So the first time I ever heard of Pearl, it was, um, she was on that vice feminism versus

00:50:30.300 anti-feminism panel. I don't know if you saw that. Um, but I thought she was really great in it. So

00:50:36.860 I, I was immediately a huge fan of hers. I thought she was really funny. Then I started following her

00:50:41.560 online and I saw some takes that were just, that didn't really make sense. Um, that were just like,

00:50:48.540 frankly, saying inaccurate stuff. Um, especially like as a Christian, I think that Pearl,

00:50:56.420 she calls herself a Catholic. Her, her worldview is not Christian, unfortunately. And I wish that it

00:51:01.960 was. So there's a lot of things that I would love to debate Pearl about. And actually, I think we are

00:51:07.340 currently scheduled to be on the culture war, like the Tim Pool's debate show together. Was it May 17th?

00:51:13.820 Um, and I, I can't wait for that because there's a lot of things that Pearl talks about that are

00:51:19.680 antithetical to the Christian worldview, Christian lifestyle, uh, that I, I would love to kind of

00:51:25.340 understand more her rationality for defending. And also she is someone who is literally coming at

00:51:31.820 things from a one dimensional analysis. Like a lot of the, the problems that she talks about with,

00:51:37.380 uh, you know, in regard to things like, like deadbeat dads, that's, that's one great example.

00:51:42.180 She loves saying that there's no such thing as a deadbeat dad. She, the thing with Pearl is that

00:51:48.240 she doesn't look at statistics very often. And she certainly, she doesn't consider things like

00:51:53.540 socioeconomic status and race, right? So a lot of the things she'll say like, Oh, single moms,

00:51:59.080 this and this, and it's like, Pearl, I'm sorry, but like, you're, you're largely looking at statistics

00:52:06.020 that are representative of the black community. Like you are accidentally talking about the black

00:52:10.120 community and you're extrapolating it to just be like, Oh, all women, this all men, that,

00:52:15.060 and it's like, Pearl, no. So I would, I would love to be able to talk more about that with her.

00:52:21.640 What do you think she is pushing that is anti-Catholic?

00:52:25.960 So, yeah. Um, one of the things that she talks about is the idea that, um, promiscuity is different

00:52:33.540 for men and for women. And, you know, she loves to say like, I don't make judgments. I just talk

00:52:37.960 about what is. I'm of the belief as a Christian that God's word is what is. So it's not really up

00:52:46.560 to us to say that this, I don't view this as much of a big deal as this. Um, and she does,

00:52:52.640 she excuses promiscuity in both men and women. Um, she says it's okay for, she, you know, she,

00:52:58.520 I guess diminishes the idea of men sleeping around, which is really encouraging promiscuity

00:53:04.120 amongst women, because unless she's referring to gay men, the people that are going to be sleeping

00:53:08.440 with are women. Um, so there is that, uh, she, you know, she also, this was like fresh and fit.

00:53:16.020 She seemed to try to minimize the fact that one of them was caught on tape, uh, basically trying to

00:53:22.420 solicit an abortion because, Oh, the woman, the, the mother is a prostitute. I'm not pro prostitute,

00:53:28.520 but if you believe in the sanctity of life, that even applies to babies whose mothers are

00:53:33.460 prostitutes. Um, so there's a bunch of different things like that where it's, I'm sorry, but this

00:53:39.340 is just not a Christian perspective. She's also been, uh, coming out in favor of like polygamy.

00:53:44.200 It seems, I think that was after the Andrew Tate tweet, uh, which again, it's not the Christian

00:53:48.940 perspective. Marriage is a sacrament that was established by God between one man and one woman.

00:53:53.000 Um, yeah, so there's a list of those. I, I would love to be able to talk to her

00:53:58.280 about all of these things. Um, she has an open invite to come on my show. She hasn't

00:54:03.080 taken it, but I think at the very least we're going to try to get together on the culture

00:54:06.960 war. Yeah. I had a feeling that you had some disagreements with her because it seems like

00:54:11.960 you're in a similar sphere and there's, there's not very many women, uh, who are trying to speak

00:54:15.940 about that. I agree. Uh, I agree that you're saying that what is comes from God. Like what

00:54:21.140 is does not come from any red pill book written by, you know, men, uh, what is has to come

00:54:26.620 from God specifically with fresh? Like I think a lot of that, uh, the prostitute stuff, it

00:54:30.840 could be lies and clout chasers. Um, so we're not sure about that yet, but yeah, I mean,

00:54:36.260 obviously I don't agree about abortion, but that's where like the red pill collides with

00:54:40.700 theology in a way that does not make sense. And even though I catch myself, um, on that

00:54:46.000 too, because, uh, there's a lot of red pill ideas that I'm trying to shift. I reverted to

00:54:51.940 Islam last year. And sometimes the Muslims will catch me saying some red pill, uh, ideas

00:54:57.940 that does not like, this has nothing to do with Islam. It's like, you're either Muslim

00:55:00.700 or you're not, you can't pick and choose like a buffet, uh, what you believe in or what

00:55:04.500 you don't. And I would say that that's what, and not to like debate religion, but I think

00:55:10.920 Muslims do, we have to admit that they do a better job at keeping it consistent, right?

00:55:17.400 There's more Christians who are able to pick and choose about what they follow and what

00:55:21.080 they don't. You, you get to be more of like an in and out Christian than you get to be

00:55:24.860 an in and out Muslim. Muslim, but it's just like Quran, Sunnah, that's it. Halas. Quran

00:55:28.880 obviously the book and then Sunnah being a, of the prophet piece upon him, but Christians,

00:55:33.500 they get to have, uh, they get, it's kind of like a buffet. Like some will do, you know,

00:55:37.160 date before marriage. Uh, yeah, nobody's perfect. Uh, some will, um, curse, some will do drugs,

00:55:43.440 some will believe in numerology, uh, and you don't get the same sort of criticism that,

00:55:48.000 but a Muslim gets, if a Muslim does anything that's inconsistent, uh, then, then they're

00:55:52.200 not Muslim. Then they're, they're committing sin. No, I think that's exactly right. If you look at

00:55:59.160 the, the Catholic church, especially the majority of Catholics support using birth control,

00:56:04.300 the majority of Catholics support, um, abortion being legal. These are like, these are viewpoints

00:56:10.740 that are totally at odds with the Catholic church. Right. And I'm not just talking about

00:56:15.000 a lot of Catholics, again, the majority of Catholics. And so it is, it is a problem. Um,

00:56:20.800 and I think there are a lot of very casual Christians, very nominal Christians. And yeah,

00:56:26.020 you know, unfortunately I, I see the, the way that Pearl talks about dating and relationships

00:56:31.440 and it's just, it's very worldly. And she's, she can't escape that she is coming from the

00:56:36.840 perspective of red pill, not the perspective of Catholicism, of Christianity, of God. That's not

00:56:42.060 to say that I hate all of Pearl's takes. I think she identifies a lot of problems very accurately.

00:56:46.980 She does. I think she does a good job discussing like the unfairness of divorce courts. Uh, I agree

00:56:52.240 with her a hundred percent, you know, she's not all wrong, but I just look at her and I think, okay,

00:56:58.380 this is not someone who is furthering a biblical view of marriage, of relationships of women and men.

00:57:06.600 And so in that regard, I'm going to disagree with her. That's why I like your, I like your

00:57:11.620 positions on, on everything you said, because it all goes back to Christianity. Right. And Pearl,

00:57:17.260 I was on a space with her the other day. Um, a couple other people were on there and she was

00:57:22.420 talking about how she kind of has like this coping view of the world. She's like, how many more single

00:57:26.620 moms are going to be, you know, how many more child, do you think only fans is going to rise? Do you

00:57:30.340 think she was diagnosing a lot of problems and she wasn't, she didn't have an optimistic point of

00:57:34.580 view? Right. And as somebody in religion, this is what Christianity and Islam has in common is that

00:57:39.980 even though we know things are probably going to get worse before they get better, you still need

00:57:43.360 to maintain a, an optimistic point of view towards everything, because that's the godly way to live.

00:57:48.000 You need to be positive and forward thinking and do the right thing, regardless of what's going on

00:57:51.920 in the world. Like, even though there's going to be more only fans, prostitutes running around,

00:57:55.920 we still have to be pious and have to be good citizens because that's what God wants us to do.

00:58:00.180 There's no benefit in having a negative coping attitude towards the world.

00:58:05.180 No, you're absolutely right. Actually, you, you mentioned, um, like single mothers and stuff.

00:58:09.520 So, um, well, one of the things like I'll bring up this specific instance is that Pearl likes to

00:58:15.580 talk about the divorce rate a lot. And one of the issues I have with Pearl is that I feel like

00:58:19.340 she'll, she'll see a statistic and then she'll base her opinions on it, talk about it a lot without

00:58:24.400 actually understanding it. So the divorce rate being a 50%, um, Sean, actual justice warrior,

00:58:29.940 he talks a lot about this, the way that they measure that is they take the number of divorces

00:58:34.160 and the number of marriages that happen in any given year. Obviously this is kind of a problem

00:58:38.960 because you're, you're measuring new marriages up against marriages that have existed, uh, for

00:58:44.220 decades. So right now we also have a population, I mean, an inverse where there are a lot more older

00:58:49.700 people than younger people. So you're essentially trying to, you're measuring divorces that include all

00:58:54.860 older generations where there are more people against the younger people who are newly getting

00:59:00.680 married. Um, so I think that is not a very good way of measuring divorce. I think it'd be more

00:59:05.840 accurate to kind of plot cohorts, like follow individual marriages across the decades to, to

00:59:11.880 base like how likely a single marriage is to last or not. Also, there's a lot of discrepancies

00:59:16.460 between races, between education level and between income. I think a lot of people, a lot of men,

00:59:22.140 especially look at that statistic and they think, oh, there's a 50% chance my marriage is going to

00:59:26.660 end. That may or may not be true. Your actual likelihood may be less. It may be more depending

00:59:32.460 on all those factors that I just talked about. Um, so there is more to the conversation here than it

00:59:37.340 just like marriage being a clip of the coin, whether it's going to work or not. That's not something she

00:59:41.640 really talks about. And I, I wish she did. What do you think is the biggest issue that faces the

00:59:47.420 culture war right now? Your, your content is very culture war oriented. Uh, what do you think that

00:59:53.260 we should be focusing on the most? Um, I mean, I think, I think immigration is, is huge. I'm not

00:59:59.700 sure if that falls under the culture war. Yes. It does. We need to build that wall in it because

01:00:04.180 they call you racist. If, if you say that, and you know, you said a couple of things that people

01:00:08.180 would, would definitely call you racist for, even though you're not like talking about.

01:00:12.480 So I think immigration, I think immigration is huge, but I also think, I mean, a lot of the

01:00:19.240 problems that we have, they stem from like woke indoctrination in the school systems. Um, and I

01:00:25.040 think until we get ahold of that, then things aren't going to change for the better. Like I am a hundred

01:00:29.820 percent in favor of things like homeschooling. Um, so like the trans issue, people will say, well,

01:00:34.540 this only affects point, whatever percent, why are we spending so much time on it? It's not really about

01:00:39.040 the individuals themselves who identify as trans. It's bringing attention to the fact that this is

01:00:43.180 what's being taught to your kids in school. So if they're, they're bringing this amount of crazy,

01:00:47.100 when it comes to the trans issue, what do you think they're teaching your kids about America?

01:00:49.800 What do you think they're teaching your kids about American history? It's all related. You can't

01:00:53.280 really separate it. So I think trying to dismantle the current public school system, the university

01:00:59.640 system, that's also, that's gotta be up there. Wait, are you gonna, I don't know if you, you don't

01:01:03.840 have to answer this if you want to keep this personal, but personally, I want to homeschool. I want my

01:01:07.580 children to be homeschooled. Are you doing that? Are you sending them into a tranny drag queen story

01:01:11.840 hour? Oh, never. I would, I would never. Um, I, I don't even trust private schools, frankly, at this

01:01:17.620 point, I've, I've seen too many stories about this was supposed to be a Christian school, but for some

01:01:22.120 reason they have a drag queen stripping. So no, I wouldn't, I wouldn't trust any of these people

01:01:26.880 alone with my child. So, um, it's great. I know quite a few families in Tennessee, uh, Nashville area.

01:01:32.980 So I'm hoping that we can do some sort of a, like homeschool pod or something like that. Once our

01:01:37.480 kids are a little bit older and starting to, you know, I guess, go through classes and stuff like

01:01:41.540 that. Homeschool pod. So it's like a community, like the mom group chat that you have, you all

01:01:45.320 have kids of a similar age and then you, you basically do your, that's the way to go because

01:01:50.460 you're seeing that the crazy people that they're, they're teaching your kids. And also it's so much of

01:01:55.460 what they, they read out in the history books are just straight up lies and just outdated

01:01:58.980 information. I don't want my kids to have to listen to, um, some teacher explain about the

01:02:03.880 birds and the bees or like lie to them about evolution or tell them about, you know, make

01:02:09.960 them focus on people like Charles. There's just so much propaganda that I don't want them to

01:02:14.260 have to unplug their mind to so many things that like, even now I'm still unlearning. Uh, and also

01:02:19.620 having an open mind and questioning history. These are all extremely important. I just want to ask

01:02:26.340 you one more. Um, I want to ask you one more question. Is there anything, uh, anything that

01:02:31.360 you wanted to discuss that we didn't, um, that I didn't get to touch on? Um, well, I would

01:02:38.140 like to hear more about your views on, uh, I guess con ink and the, what you call the Israeli

01:02:42.900 wire, because I mean, you're someone who you've got a huge audience. You've got a young audience.

01:02:48.360 You're the type of person that conservatives should be like holding up. Like, Hey, come on,

01:02:52.800 let's talk about this. You're influential. You, you have an audience that should be exactly the

01:02:57.260 type of people that we're trying to reach. But like you said, you you're, you're not really

01:03:01.000 mainstream in the way that like you're Michael Knowles isn't going to be interviewing you.

01:03:04.420 Matt Walsh isn't going to be interviewing you. What do you think of that? Like, are we just like

01:03:07.880 shooting ourselves in the foot with our movement? If we're alienating anyone who is remotely successful

01:03:12.420 with young men? So I believe in creating the new mainstream. I've been canceled off of many

01:03:17.280 platforms and I've been blackballed from so many places and people are literally afraid to speak

01:03:21.980 to me. This is why it's like, Oh wait, Lauren Chen like is not afraid of a conversation. Like what,

01:03:26.180 what did she lose to get to this point of view? Like I'll get a debate offers. Ethan Klein from

01:03:30.860 the H3 podcast is a perfect example. He's one of the biggest like liberal streamers on YouTube.

01:03:35.660 He called me out to a debate and I said, let's talk about Zionism. And he backed away. It was a

01:03:39.300 month ago. Like he, he cursed me out. He said like, you're, you're a beta B word. If you don't want

01:03:44.060 to do the best, I said, yeah, I'll do it. You know, and let's go speak about, uh, about Israel and

01:03:47.800 Palestine because I know that you, you're, she's married to his, uh, his wife fought in the IDF.

01:03:52.680 You know, he's Jewish and he's afraid to speak about it. He has like that liberal audience who

01:03:56.320 puts the Palestine flag in, in their bio. And I said, let's speak about this. And they run away,

01:04:01.060 you know, and they ignore it, even though they're the one that called me out. Matt Walsh, for example,

01:04:04.640 he can't, he literally can't have me on because he, he, his master is Ben Shapiro, but I'm of the

01:04:11.120 belief that, you know, I don't want to go and have other people's platforms. And I think that I need to

01:04:16.040 suck up in order to, to get popularity. I'm just going to create it myself. If you cancel me,

01:04:21.040 uh, I'll just cancel you. And so I mean, like we have 9,000 people watching and just have a discord

01:04:26.080 called live right now. I don't think that's something that Michael Knowles or Matt Walsh

01:04:29.060 could touch, especially if they have access to all these platforms and they're not touching these

01:04:32.780 live numbers, you know, especially if we're on rumble on a website, that's still pretty fringe,

01:04:37.280 uh, worldwide in America, it's popular, but people are starving for the truth. So I, I believe the truth

01:04:44.080 always wins. People are going to have to seek it out. Regardless, the more they try to blackball

01:04:47.160 you, the more interesting you become. So I don't need them instead of having to think that this is

01:04:53.080 where the new media is being created. Now, instead of thinking that we need to be, you know, Oh, we

01:04:57.820 need to get on CNN. We need to get on this. Like this is, we just create our own show. So there's no

01:05:03.880 point in having to, and having to serve these people. Um, uh, the energy is where, is where the truth

01:05:10.140 goes. That's, I mean, I think that's a great thing to do. And it's, it's funny because I, I often hear

01:05:17.100 conservatives Republicans talking about like, how are we going to reach young people? And

01:05:21.740 simultaneously I'll see them villainize, demonize any, anyone, young men who's like remotely

01:05:27.660 conservative because they're more right-wing than they are. And they can't, there's this,

01:05:31.220 like the gatekeeping is more important to those people than actually being successful with a younger

01:05:36.420 audience, which is, I mean, that's how movements die. So yeah, that's, that's a good point.

01:05:41.460 I mean, that's why, uh, guys like Nick Fuentes are extremely important. Why so many people that

01:05:45.380 the youth is it's all going towards him, but like he was his movement of America first is the reason

01:05:50.200 that why Candace Owens left daily. Why really it was all a domino effect, uh, to go push this

01:05:54.440 conversation forward and they get really triggered. It's very funny that these want to be conservatives,

01:05:59.440 the issues that they die on are just that there's two genders and transgenderism is bad.

01:06:03.740 Yeah. That's it. And then somebody else like Nick Fuentes comes around and then they use labels like

01:06:07.880 Nazi white supremacists to shut up the conversation. And then people end up watching a show and they're

01:06:12.240 like, Oh, he's actually making some really good points. I didn't know this. I didn't know that

01:06:15.840 we had this, uh, this undying allegiance to Israel. And I actually, I want to, I want to,

01:06:20.060 I don't want my taxes to go towards a genocide. Why is this happening? And people start to see

01:06:24.540 through the veil. I mean, I get hit pieces all the time from like these lying organizations,

01:06:28.500 like media matters and all that, but they're losing credibility completely because, uh, you know,

01:06:34.220 what we're saying is the truth. Yeah. Well, I mean, I, I appreciate the fact that you're willing

01:06:39.920 to build something that's your own. Um, because I feel like without social media places like rumble,

01:06:46.240 I mean, who knows how many people came before you, but just weren't able to build what you did

01:06:51.920 because the infrastructure wasn't there because they, you know, they didn't have the mindset that I

01:06:55.480 could just make it my own. Um, and that's kind of what I've been thinking about a lot recently with

01:06:59.600 the whole, like kind of daily wire implosion is that like this, this could have happened maybe

01:07:04.700 generations ago and the conservative movement would look totally different, but they had enough of a

01:07:08.340 stranglehold where they were able to keep this down. But I don't think, I don't think it's

01:07:12.120 sustainable anymore. Like I don't think in 10 years, uh, the face of the conservative movement or

01:07:16.580 the right is going to be someone like Ben Shapiro. No way it can't. I don't think they can maintain

01:07:21.260 the level of control that they've been able to until now.

01:07:23.460 It's going to be sooner than 10 years. I think I give him a year. I give him a year. Like Jordan

01:07:28.220 Peterson, like he was able to hold that reputation for so long just because of transgenderism that he

01:07:34.360 was like this really insanely smart professor, but he, all these people got vaccinated. Like,

01:07:40.140 I don't believe in anything you say now. You're not actually about freedom. If you got this vaccine

01:07:44.860 and then they sit in a restaurant and they're wearing a mask or no, they take off their mask and

01:07:48.880 they're sitting in a coffee place to be like, Oh look, we got vaccinated. Now we're in public. It's all

01:07:52.880 people see the propaganda. So yeah, the, as long as we keep having these conversations,

01:07:57.200 we're not going to let these people win, but yeah, thanks for coming on Lauren. I appreciate

01:08:02.600 your time. I wish the best of luck to you. Where can we, uh, where can we find more of your content?

01:08:07.520 Sure. Well, I'm on Telegram, uh, X and Instagram at the Lauren Chen. And you can also find me on

01:08:14.200 YouTube at, uh, Lauren Chen is my main channel where I do like social political stuff. And then

01:08:19.800 media-holic is my second channel where I do, uh, like pop culture reviews, uh, entertainment news

01:08:24.820 and that kind of stuff. And I would love to have you by the way, on my podcast too.

01:08:29.020 Anytime, anytime we can do it. Do you have anything that's coming up? What are your,

01:08:31.800 your future plans? What are you looking forward to?

01:08:34.380 Well, actually, um, April 27th, I'm going to be in Austin at Minds Fest, uh, which is going to be

01:08:40.440 like this huge event with a bunch of different panels, people. Uh, Alex Jones is going to be there as a

01:08:45.240 special guest. I'm going to be on a panel about communism and also doing standup. Jimmy Dore

01:08:49.520 is going to be there as well. He's also going to be on a panel and standup. Um, yeah, so that's

01:08:54.080 going to be a really fun event. And I think tickets are still available. Uh, it's Minds Fest at the

01:08:58.180 Vulcan. If you search it, you can, um, probably find the link.

01:09:02.060 That's great. So you're, you're proving, uh, hopefully that women can be funny.

01:09:06.040 Well, that's why I like to preface that I'm not just doing comedy. It's female comedy. Okay.

01:09:10.280 Much lower bar. So just want to get everyone's expectations, uh, in line with what's going to

01:09:15.200 happen. Right. So most of the jokes are going to be about your ovaries and having children and

01:09:19.160 being emotional. Well, actually this is, I'm, I'm going to see how, how cool the right wing is with

01:09:27.100 some, some of the edgier stuff. Um, yeah, like that's, that's where I'll leave it. Uh, I'm hoping

01:09:33.500 that once I perform it and post some clips that I don't get any calls from anyone that I work with,

01:09:37.840 but we'll see. We'll see. Okay. So you can come and see her at a Minds Fest. She's going to be

01:09:41.740 making Nazi jokes. And, uh, I hope, uh, hope you, and I hope all of this success to you and your

01:09:47.220 family. And, uh, yeah, thanks a lot for coming on Lauren. I'll, I'll speak to you soon. Yeah.

01:09:51.260 Thanks so much. Have a good one. Have a good one. Bye. W Lauren Chen. Good interview.

SNEAKO - April 24, 2024

SNEAKO Interviews Lauren Chen

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