SNEAKO - October 13, 2024


SNEAKO Interviews Mohammed Hijab After His Debate With Epstein's Lawyer!


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In this episode of the podcast, we talk about the debate with Umm dershowitz, why he's a hypocrite and why he thinks Israel has a right to defend itself. We also talk about how he got to where he is today and what he's been up to since his debate with Piers Morgan.

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00:00:00.000 assalamu alaikum yes you're live can you see and hear me how you doing you okay i'm good i'm good
00:00:05.680 uh thanks for coming on uh last moment's notice no worries at all how are you doing okay doing
00:00:11.840 good i just wanted to to look at your review your debate with um dershowitz and i thought it'd be
00:00:17.760 interesting to call you before how did it go well i mean i think it was um enjoyable from my end
00:00:26.400 it was uh interesting you know i mean the thing is this now has become like when you go in pierce
00:00:31.840 morgan uncensored it's not meant to be like a formal academic debate and i learned my lesson
00:00:38.400 the first time when i asked i had a debate with a guy called schmoley yeah um and i asked him like
00:00:45.600 because the the common protocol like the typical protocol with the debate is you know one person
00:00:52.320 speaks for a certain amount of time uninterrupted and then the other person speaks for a certain
00:00:57.360 amount of time uninterrupted etc and then there's like cross-examination and then there's like
00:01:02.800 questions and answers or something to that effect so when i proposed that to the production team
00:01:08.400 the first time they were not interested in that kind of thing so i realized what kind of game is
00:01:12.720 being played because the first thing you got to do with these things is to see what kind of game is
00:01:16.960 being played and the game is the loudest person the most assertive person the most aggressive person
00:01:23.280 usually gets center of the ring so the strategy going into this one was okay well if that's how
00:01:30.240 you guys are going to play it um then i'm going to have to play this game as well and i can play this
00:01:35.840 game and i had to do a psychological assessment of a piers morgan and dershowitz and i found that there
00:01:41.440 were two individuals with extremely fragile egos and quite um averse to or you could say hypersensitive
00:01:49.680 to criticism but i would just have in my pocket all of these ad hominems that anytime where i thought
00:01:56.480 like i was losing the center of the ring i'd throw an ad hominem because for me
00:02:03.360 people don't look necessarily at arguments when it comes to these engagements
00:02:06.720 i think the arguments are important but there are a secondary priority the first priority is
00:02:12.160 actually optics and it's a genocide support or someone like piers morgan or an apologist really
00:02:19.360 for the palestine genocide he tries to pretend or feign that he's on the fence but after a year like i
00:02:26.560 mean 50 000 people effectively died in more than one country israel acting in the same way in palestine
00:02:33.920 acting in the same way in gaza acting in the same way lebanon i was not gonna be questioned by this
00:02:40.880 guy and i don't mind if anyone comes and says well you're very arrogant the way you've dealt with this
00:02:46.560 very distasteful uh very unbecoming i say you know what it doesn't matter what you think because with
00:02:52.160 respect i would rather look arrogant and um and be dominating with an enemy or with an individual
00:03:00.720 as an apologist for the genocide then look uh professional but a weak at the same time so it's
00:03:06.880 a trade-off i was happy to have and i think this is the only way to deal with people like this and um
00:03:13.680 i think it was from my perspective it fulfilled the strategic function of showing the hypocrisy of
00:03:20.480 piers morgan because when he was questioned with the same words and the same interrogations
00:03:25.120 that he uses to question other people about israel does israel have a right to defend itself you know
00:03:31.360 there's is what's the proportionate response literally his exact words were used against him
00:03:36.240 and you saw him contradict himself in the span of a minute just does iran have a right to defend
00:03:42.480 itself yes no no yes literally going from one answer to another answer in the span of 20 or 30 seconds
00:03:50.240 not knowing how to respond to that question you know getting a taste of his own medicine
00:03:55.920 you know he's been doing it like i i will never forget the interview that he conducted
00:04:00.400 with jeremy corbyn right jeremy if you saw that interview bro who's basically trying to ravage jeremy
00:04:07.520 corbyn with like 15 or 16 or 20 times asking the same thing you condemn this or do you does israel
00:04:14.320 have a right to defend itself okay well have a taste of your own medicine piers morgan because it's not
00:04:19.920 just you that can try and act the bully if you can try and dish it out and you want to dish it out to
00:04:24.560 people like jeremy corbyn and this one and that one the other one abdul wahid who the the gp who lost
00:04:30.000 his job subsequently because of that interview um and other people as well who he's been trying to bully
00:04:37.200 if you if you act like that you know you're not about that life really because there's always going
00:04:42.320 to be someone who can do that to you in a better way than that you can do it to other people
00:04:45.760 and that person's mohammed hijab and when he came and he did it to you in dershowitz
00:04:50.640 i mean he really didn't have a response i mean the physiognomy of piers morgan said it all his
00:04:58.320 facial expressions his um physiological reactions he was a defeated man and that's all i wanted to do
00:05:06.800 and uh yeah some people say it's distasteful but to be honest with you i don't care what i have to say
00:05:10.640 about that yeah some people said that he started to cry that he he started to team up i thought he's
00:05:14.960 supposed to be moderating what do you think is the the best way to to navigate these sort of debates
00:05:21.280 because i'm sure you get criticism from people saying that you go guns blazing too much but i like
00:05:26.800 the way you describe a debate as uh as the ring you're not in just in there to have a friendly
00:05:31.680 conversation when it's somebody who's opposing your entire world view and you know it's all about optics and
00:05:37.200 there's a big stage it really is a fight how do you navigate conversations like that without
00:05:42.800 destroying your reputation but also upholding the point of view that you hold so dearly
00:05:48.960 i think debates are more of an art than a science some people think that debates are are you coming
00:05:53.440 with these arguments and you have to act in this way you have to not be afraid to break formalities
00:05:58.640 at the end of the day there are some formalities with these things and when you're going on piers
00:06:03.040 morgan's uncensored for example someone would think you have to assume the posture of an
00:06:08.080 interviewee i didn't take that as a granted assumption so i took the frank quite frankly as
00:06:15.040 much as i could with the tools that i had uh the uh i took the role of the interviewer i actually said
00:06:23.200 i'm going to get the center of the ring and and the way i did that and i'm going to reveal the secret
00:06:27.200 since i don't think i'm going to be debating this issue with piers morgan again
00:06:30.320 is like i said before piers you just reviewed a psychological profile of the person that you're
00:06:35.920 dealing with a lot of it is just psychological advantage someone will say why did you start with
00:06:39.600 an ad hominem and ad hominem isn't that a kind of informal fallacy it's only an informal fallacy if
00:06:44.880 you connect it to an argument and you say for example you know you are such and such therefore
00:06:49.600 you are wrong i mean no one's making an argument in that kind of crude manner an ad hominem is actually a
00:06:55.200 very effective means of discrediting your opponent of setting a psychological scene of creating a
00:07:03.040 certain thing so to remove ad hominems for from a public debate on these kinds of issues is actually
00:07:08.560 quite ridiculous and foolish and there's no reason to do so the only reason why the term ad hominem
00:07:15.280 has a bad reputation is because people think it's a fallacy but it's only a fallacy if you connect it
00:07:20.080 explicitly to a kind of logical proposition we're not doing that so so you can throw as many ad hominems
00:07:25.040 as you want i mean sometimes ad hominems are like the spice like you know salt in on the food you put
00:07:31.440 ad hominems there and and and you entertain the public with some ad hominem and say well well that's
00:07:36.720 a bad argument like he did i said i'm not making an argument i'm just making a point and making a point
00:07:42.240 about your character by his character about someone else's character and that's just for the public to see
00:07:47.120 because look the debate is a bit like a performance it is a performance you you're coming out there
00:07:52.320 you're trying to convince the public and so i want to say that it's an art because you you first have
00:07:58.880 to look at the psychological profile of the person that you're dealing with knowing piers morgan the
00:08:03.680 thing about him is as i mentioned he's hypersensitive to criticism and he always feels the need to justify
00:08:08.880 his actions to the public right in a in a very in a in a i mean everyone can do that to some extent i mean
00:08:16.080 there's a healthy amount of doing that to just explain to the public or whatever if people are really curious
00:08:21.280 but he does it because he and it came out in his interview if if you really paid attention
00:08:26.160 he really he cares too much what even his adversaries think about him he said what do you think of me muhammad
00:08:34.160 what do you think of me who cares what i think of him i mean i don't care what he thinks of me
00:08:39.040 why does he care so much if i like him or don't like him or these kind of things so that's a it's a
00:08:44.240 psychological weakness okay and because for him he's not basing his stances on principles or he's
00:08:51.360 basing on money okay he's basing on on these kind of things he's money over moral peers so someone with
00:08:57.120 that kind of psychological profile it's easy to break him okay it's actually quite easy to break him
00:09:01.920 it's a mind game that must be played with him because the first thing is the dash which is the same by
00:09:06.000 the way you'd have noticed so when i was speaking to him about epstein's island he he kind of crossed
00:09:09.440 his arm he became like a little girl oh i'm telling you i you know i didn't go to the island
00:09:14.240 i mean why are you i mean the the way he spoke about that is it people are saying in the comment
00:09:21.120 section it's very incriminating you know people are saying that he sounded like he sounded people
00:09:25.600 are saying he sounds guilty i mean it was it's unbelievable like you know he went down with a jab
00:09:31.600 really because both of them are like i say fragile uh psychologically so if if you know that the
00:09:37.200 person's a disturbing is a liar and is a is playing a game with you he doesn't really know the facts
00:09:42.400 and every single thing that i said about international relations has been fact checked
00:09:46.240 and turned out to be correct every single thing about international law has been fact checked that he
00:09:50.800 said it was wrong and it turned out to be correct so if these people are going to poison the
00:09:55.840 well and lie about the facts okay well let's play a game i know your weaknesses you you can't really
00:10:01.840 get to me because you can't reach me in that way psychologically let's let's let's see let's see
00:10:07.440 so that the ad hom in the beginning was a way of really like um if you like putting the jab
00:10:14.720 the face of the opposite the nose of the opponent in the beginning just letting them respect who you
00:10:18.320 are it's like a psychological event then after that we'll throw the arguments we'll mention all
00:10:22.480 these points all the kind of thing but you need to maintain center of the ring in a place like
00:10:26.320 pierce morgan uncensored you have to as soon as you get in there the tactic is to get the center of the
00:10:32.160 ring and ask the questions and be the interviewer and yes be ready for anything else but that's um
00:10:37.760 that's what i've done with him and people will not like it but to be i'll be honest i i cannot care
00:10:42.320 what their opinion is because i'm pretty sure that for the minority of people that don't like it like
00:10:47.120 two percent three percent who said you went a bit overboard or whatever if they were on pierce morgan they'd
00:10:51.760 probably get ravaged by him and they get if it was a two-on-one situation they'd get even more
00:10:56.240 ravaged and they would be spoken over and they would be interrupted and they would be and i would
00:11:01.120 rather be like i said before i would rather look arrogant i'd love rather look whatever than look
00:11:06.160 weak on that show with that man defending that position for me that was not an option that's a good
00:11:12.320 strategy and i think it's worked time and time again against shmoli and against uh that major debate
00:11:16.480 you had just on palestine israel against piers morgan last year you got to get dirty you know
00:11:20.800 the uh formal debate strategy does not work on a live show like that it's a it's a different type
00:11:25.840 of ball game so it was it was good to see that i'm looking for do you recommend that i watch the
00:11:30.480 the full interview or should i watch the highlights that you put up on your channel no you can do a bit
00:11:35.120 of both i mean if i mean that i put some highlights uh the guys that are working with me benjamin
00:11:39.360 icra is a fantastic uh you know person who manages the the social media platforms and i have to give
00:11:46.000 him a shout out because he's he's the one who puts the things together uh you can watch that as a taster
00:11:51.280 and stuff some things that he put on the shorts and all these kind of things they're good but i mean
00:11:55.120 you can watch the whole thing because you'll see i mean just pay attention to the body language pay
00:12:00.000 attention to the psychology of these people pay attention to how weak they look because that for me is
00:12:05.040 more important than anything for me for me um optically how a debate looks is as important
00:12:10.480 as how it sounds so so for example if someone were to turn off all the sound and children were
00:12:16.560 to come into a room and they had to judge who is the winner of this debate the child should be able
00:12:22.480 to point without hearing a word at the winner of the debate just by the body language and the demeanor
00:12:27.920 and the confidence levels of the interlocutor and that's for me uh a very very integral part of
00:12:33.760 debates what about the uh the you had another debate recently with um that you were preparing
00:12:41.840 for for a long time what is his name again it's uh william lane craig yeah william lane craig i i
00:12:46.560 didn't get to see that yet how did that that one it seemed like that was i saw some highlights but
00:12:50.720 it seemed like that was unanimously in the in your favor it was i mean but the thing is that william
00:12:56.560 lane craig is no um you know durschwitz he's he's a person who's quite frankly i have to say he is
00:13:02.960 academically honest and he is a heavyweight in the world of academia in the field that i've
00:13:09.200 you know completed my phd on completing my phd is philosophy of religion he's really one of the
00:13:13.600 biggest names in the last hundred years and in christian debates he could be said to be
00:13:18.480 the biggest name in the last hundred years so william lane craig is if you've watched any of
00:13:23.360 these christian apologists usually in some way shape or form the teacher of your favorite christian
00:13:29.120 apologist debater like for example david would have a big debate with david would in 2018
00:13:33.760 and william lane craig would be considered to be in a way his teacher so he's a big big fish and and
00:13:39.120 you can't really get away with things with him he's written a book on logic he's written so many peer
00:13:43.760 reviewed papers so i actually prepared for that debate very rigorously and very um you know uh
00:13:51.040 strenuously like every day i would be reading his books i've read most of not all his books i've read
00:13:56.080 most of not all his um seen most of if not all his debates and all of his public lectures and
00:14:01.760 everything that there is to do with this guy because for me this was more of an academic debate
00:14:07.040 yeah i was assertive but it's not like that debate is not going to get as much traction as this one
00:14:11.440 because the the performative aspect of the entertainment aspect was much less uh because it
00:14:17.760 was about the facts and i think it was good i think we went back and forth um there was nothing that he
00:14:24.320 said that really threw me off or that something i didn't hear before except for one um example that
00:14:32.000 he gave about some candles which i miss heard because he said that you know if you put two
00:14:35.920 matchsticks together and uh and you know both of them will light a candle will look like a light a
00:14:41.520 candle and i heard him differently in my head saying that if you put two candles together it will become
00:14:46.160 a bigger flame so in my mind that that was that was a mistake that i made in hearing what he had to say
00:14:51.520 um and that was the only thing that he brought that i didn't expect him to bring because i
00:14:56.480 didn't really read it in any of his works this thing about over determination i think he thought
00:15:00.080 about it on the spot um however obviously now having heard what he said i think it's even a weaker
00:15:07.120 argument than i thought it was in the beginning because uh what he was trying to say was that you
00:15:11.360 know if god i'm saying that it's father the son the holy spirit how could all three of them create the
00:15:16.000 universe fully and totally uh and at the same time together how is that possible so he said that
00:15:23.200 well if you get two matches okay and you bring it to the wick of a candle okay then those two matches
00:15:33.440 both of them are fully uh necessary for the lighting of the wick of that particular candle and that's a
00:15:40.000 very very very very very weak argument because the truth is if if you've got two matches and you
00:15:46.960 from a physics perspective if one of them produces enough energy to light the candle you don't need
00:15:52.720 the other match becomes superfluous it's unnecessary completely so you can't say that actually two
00:15:57.520 matches are the ones which lit the candle because actually only one match was required to like the
00:16:02.880 candle and the other one was there as a redundant feature from a physical perspective like the heat of the
00:16:08.960 second one is no is not required because there's a threshold that was used for the first match but
00:16:14.480 that's the only thing i think that some christians came out and said well you said this and this and
00:16:18.960 whatever but nevertheless even what i did say which i misheard what he said was correct if you do bring
00:16:24.880 two flames together the flame will become bigger there's no controversy in that um so the point is is
00:16:30.160 that you cannot have two entities okay which create the universe to a degree of 100 each and the
00:16:36.720 the similitude of saying that you can is the same similitude of saying that you can have two mothers
00:16:42.240 that are 100 responsible for the production or the creation or the giving birth to one child
00:16:49.760 to having two mothers that are 100 capable of uh producing one child and i've given this example
00:16:54.960 before and it's something that william lanecraig did not respond to and cannot respond to and will not
00:16:58.880 respond to because it's something which is too um clear for anyone to dispute and to be honest if he
00:17:06.400 can't do it with two phds a master's degree and a ba and all these books and 30 books i mean in this
00:17:12.800 library behind me i've got some of little uh library i've got some of his books as you can see here
00:17:19.680 you know this is a book you can see he's written on time and eternity you can see with copious notes
00:17:25.760 attached to it he's uh william lanecraig you know lots of books of his that um that i've got here that
00:17:33.280 it's not even related to the topic he's written many many books he's a man that is probably the
00:17:38.160 foremost philosopher you know um in the christian world and he if he couldn't answer these questions
00:17:44.000 i'm sorry to say yeah who can who can so the trinity cannot be defended yeah he compared it to a three
00:17:50.640 headed dog correct he exactly that bro i mean i mean comparing the trinity the father the son of the
00:17:57.600 he's saying look his argument is this he's saying you've got a three if you've got a three-headed
00:18:02.080 dog you've got a three-headed dog it's actually just one dog with three heads the response is a
00:18:07.680 very simple response and christians have themselves responded to it and said actually if you've got a
00:18:12.720 dog with three heads you've got three dogs with one overlapping body in the same way as if you had a
00:18:17.680 conjoined twin or siamese twin you know if you've got a conjoined twin that's two people but it's just
00:18:23.680 got some connection between those two people you so if that's your strongest argument bringing a
00:18:29.520 three-headed dog to prove the trinity then you know how false christianity is that itself you have
00:18:34.800 the top man top dog no pun intended you've got the top dog of the christian world okay yeah in the last
00:18:41.760 hundred years last hundred years you know and this is this guy is the one who defeated so many people
00:18:48.560 and argumentation somehow is this one that one written books peer-reviewed you know 50 years in
00:18:55.040 the game 50 years half a century in the game and this is his best attempt there's no way i'm sorry to
00:19:02.560 say there's no way uh this can be made sense of you cannot make sense of the trinity and if you can't
00:19:08.240 make sense of the trinity you still believe in jesus islam is the only religion really only world
00:19:13.520 major world religion if you still believe in jesus you want to believe in the messiah and you can't make
00:19:17.280 sense of the trinity then you have to believe he's the prophet and the messenger and that he's not
00:19:21.040 god or the son of god because it doesn't make sense for him to be part of the trinity and if that's it
00:19:24.960 if you've understood that then islam is really the only option for you what do you have coming up for
00:19:29.760 because you're coming off of two big wins i i see on twitter that you're you're very selective with
00:19:34.480 your debates and i think that's the right strategy right when you get to a certain point when you when
00:19:38.480 you have like major victories under your belt a lot of other debaters will want to come in there
00:19:42.480 and try to do a quick one because they get to steal some of that aura they get to steal that
00:19:48.160 that win it is a lot like fighting you need to be selective with it what do you have uh coming up
00:19:52.800 forward do you anything major or do you think that you should relax for a bit by the end of the month
00:19:58.160 i've got something to announce um which will be in my understanding quite major but uh the announcement
00:20:05.680 will come at the end of uh the month in terms of debating though i'm going to give it a rest until
00:20:11.040 something comes to my attention which is interesting i mean to be honest there's like
00:20:15.360 seven or eight people now that are lining up on a waiting list to debate to debate me and i have no
00:20:20.720 problem maybe one day they'll get their chance but they also need to understand that i've been debating
00:20:25.360 for a very long time and that now my debates have garnered some of the most views and interactions
00:20:30.960 and engagements in the world okay that's a fact i mean in multiple languages so just being fair
00:20:37.840 if they were in my position and then they had the same kind of resume i'm putting aside whether you
00:20:43.120 think i won or lost any of those debates that's a subjective value judgment and of course if you
00:20:47.360 don't agree with me ideologically you're going to think i lost every single debate i've ever been in
00:20:51.680 it's not a problem but the fact remains that from an influential perspective or from a prominence
00:20:56.720 perspective that that my debate has my debates for the last since especially since 2018 but well
00:21:03.840 beyond that have garnered the the kind of traction that they've garnered so if somebody was a tenth of
00:21:09.040 the you know if someone was a tenth of the um uh with the numbers that i've got has the audacity to
00:21:17.680 come and speak to me as if oh you're a coward if you don't do such and such and you're such and such
00:21:22.160 if you don't do such and such i mean why do you think i owe you a debate i don't owe anybody a debate
00:21:28.240 you know what i mean so i mean until you come and done what even a fraction i'm not even telling you
00:21:32.720 to do what mahammad hijab done that might be an impossible thing for you to do but go ahead and
00:21:36.880 do some of that go and go and do 20 in your community get that level of 20 on track 30 maybe
00:21:44.400 you know i like debating i enjoy it you can come to me and you can fulfill like somebody called jay
00:21:50.240 dyer or sam uh the wife b or anybody else who wants to you know engage uh shmoli came the other day
00:21:58.400 this guy uh musab uh ibn yusuf or i don't know his full name or or this one of that there's so many of
00:22:05.840 them that have come and and and presented themselves this other guy called i don't know andrew wilson or
00:22:11.680 is that his name yeah i yeah that's his name and he's he's like yeah come and speak to me i mean
00:22:17.120 there's so many of them i mean so go in and then i click on the all i have to do is click on their
00:22:22.000 thing and see their engagements and they're not really big figures so okay i'm a coward or i'm a
00:22:27.200 bad man or i'm a scared man because i don't want to accept a debate with an individual or individuals
00:22:33.120 that have a tenth of my following or a tenth of my or have not really achieved much in their
00:22:37.520 communities if that's what you want to say to yourself to make yourself feel good then by all
00:22:43.440 means yeah with that i think the william lane craig debate that does kind of encompass a lot
00:22:47.840 of the other christian apologists so there's there's no need to you know as a as a viewer's
00:22:53.120 perspective there's no need they i have to be excited for it because at the end of the day i'm
00:22:58.480 not excited by these names i mean that you know these names are not they're not exciting me and it's
00:23:03.680 i'm sorry to say you know i have to be motivated so when piers morgan gave me andrew does which
00:23:08.480 and i thought 2-1 i'm going to make this into it this it's going to be a 2-1 engagement here's
00:23:13.680 morgan he gets the numbers okay humiliating him in front of the public and stuff like that
00:23:18.400 is there a need for that is there is there a utility in that i said okay no problem
00:23:22.560 and i did it in one day's notice i checked out you know because i've read some of that
00:23:26.640 dershowitz stuff before so i just looked at my notes from the library and stuff like that and
00:23:30.400 saw and spoke to a few people international relations experts and stuff and we went for it but if
00:23:36.240 if you're not going to be what you get what you bring into the table at the end of the day for
00:23:39.600 all those people who want to debate mohammed hijab the question really remains what are you bringing to
00:23:45.840 the table it's not like you're bringing most of these people are unqualified a lot of these people
00:23:50.320 don't even have a single qualification they're so you're not an academic you're not you don't even
00:23:54.800 have social media reach you're not even loved in your own communities you don't so what is it
00:24:00.080 about the yani but the point is you can go and prove yourself go get a few wins under your belt
00:24:06.160 go and let the community but back you and then if i see and if my team finds that you know that
00:24:11.760 you're you're at a certain level maybe one day no problem i'll be around i'm 30 i'm just turned 33
00:24:17.120 years old i mean i'm still quite young there's you know years and years of my life you maybe we'll meet
00:24:22.720 one day but the point is i mean it's uh for them to think that they are they're in what kind of
00:24:28.000 entitlement must they have i mean for me when i approached william lane craig i i approached him with a
00:24:33.760 a certain level of respect i mean this guy's way my my senior he's much more if he said no because
00:24:38.720 you're not on my level honestly if he said that to me i'd be okay fine he's right i'm not on his
00:24:42.720 level he's he's done much more than i have and he's been in the game for more than i have that's
00:24:46.560 simple as that if someone like even to be fair even like richard dawkins who i would love to debate
00:24:51.440 one day but if he says look i'm sorry but you know go and build yourself up a little bit more and
00:24:56.320 come back to me i'll say to him yeah fair enough you can say things like that but you might not be alive
00:25:00.720 you know i might not be alive you might not be alive nobody might be alive but he's 18 something
00:25:05.680 years old you know fine if you're the a side you can speak like that but if you're not the a side you
00:25:12.240 can't speak like that so by the end of the month there's going to be uh some uh some uh some some
00:25:18.480 announcements that we're going to make uh about uh some things that's going to happen but i'm
00:25:24.720 definitely going to give debating a bit of a rest for now until something comes up i figured you were
00:25:29.120 going to that's probably um that's probably the smart decision are you good friends for us a
00:25:33.760 hobby because we were i'm planning a stream with him to go out to montreal i'm headed to canada
00:25:38.320 tomorrow are you are you good friends with them very good friends with him i think he's i even
00:25:43.040 watched i've actually watched most of his videos as well uh people don't know that he's got he's
00:25:47.920 actually got this kind of he's got a website called jujuclub.com and i've and that website he he
00:25:53.760 puts tutorials about uh jiu-jitsu striking tutorials a lot of like mixed martial arts stuff
00:26:00.240 and they're really good he's a good teacher like he shows how to he breaks things down analytically
00:26:07.040 um he's a grappling expert under john danaha who's like you know really and truly one of the greatest
00:26:13.520 grapplers alive today um and he's obviously an mma expert he's joe rogan described him as the best
00:26:20.560 mma coach in the world today actually and uh gsp uh was a student of his so you can imagine gsp is
00:26:28.080 considered really the best mma fighter in the world today oh of all time actually because of all time
00:26:33.840 so this is the level that we're doing is a treasure in the community because he combines between like
00:26:39.840 the philosophical understanding the intelligence but also the the warrior spirit and also the you know
00:26:45.840 the love for martial arts so i think he's a great friend of mine and uh uh someone i've learned a
00:26:51.520 lot from uh and uh taking a lot from personally okay that's a good recommendation there's a lot
00:26:58.800 anything that i should ask him just in general i probably just pick his brain i think so i mean look
00:27:05.200 i mean you know um it depends on what you wanted what your objectives are if your objectives are to get
00:27:10.800 good at uh mixed martial arts then um clearly you can ask him a good template speak to him in a macro
00:27:18.560 sense what is because if you go to if you go to montreal for a couple of weeks you're not going
00:27:22.720 to go and come back as uh you know gsp but what you might go and come back it with is the way to
00:27:28.720 become like the new gsp in a sense that he'll give you the tools he'll give you the routines he'll give you
00:27:33.760 the like anything to do with routines i think is always good when you ask a person of that caliber
00:27:41.200 what are the routines that i must employ i think these are the kinds of things you've got to ask
00:27:44.720 yourself what your objectives are and then ask him how how do you meet those objectives so that when
00:27:50.560 you come back to florida that you you're able to are you in florida now yeah i'm back in miami
00:27:56.080 is there alligators i saw some alligators on this on the streets no alligators the hurricane is uh
00:28:00.960 you can probably see a little bit outside it's nice and sunny i think it was overhyped by the media
00:28:05.040 it's okay here oh really i saw some alligators and stuff like that no gators here
00:28:08.800 yeah but yeah i mean that's what it is bro like you know give a man a fish feed him for a day
00:28:14.160 teach him how to fish you know feed him for a lifetime so someone like for us a hobby you don't ask
00:28:18.960 him for a fish you ask him you know to to know how to fish and um and that's what i would do that's um
00:28:27.520 that's yeah that's the best thing to go with it but i mean i wasn't planning to go for a couple
00:28:31.520 weeks but it seems like there might be the it's gonna be cold up there how's everything in london
00:28:38.240 it's good it's it's now it's like autumn here um weather's good we're all waiting for you bro you
00:28:43.360 need to come back i think really you need to relocate here i know you don't like the weather
00:28:46.640 you don't we don't have the the florida weather but actually to be honest i think our weather is
00:28:50.240 probably better than your guys's at least this week you know it's alligators but that's the first
00:28:55.040 week in a long time yeah i miss london i've been spending quite a bit of time there this year
00:29:00.880 but yeah things have quieted down and speaking of uh things in london we tried to set up a debate i
00:29:05.840 don't know if you know aiden ross we tried to set up a debate with uh dan bilzerian and and
00:29:10.400 tel aviv tommy robinson tommy uh didn't he refused he didn't respond to it he ran away from the debate
00:29:17.440 unfortunately it's on me tommy uh robinson has run away from multiple debates
00:29:22.480 um and dan from my understanding has a greater reach than tommy robinson yeah and since uh yeah
00:29:29.120 and he's well more well known more respected he's come out and said some fantastic things about
00:29:35.040 palestine he's shown to be open-minded and uh you know we have uh we have good opinions about this man
00:29:41.120 and we hope that he continues with this principal stance because to be honest with you he's shown quite
00:29:46.000 a good level of courage and uh valor in the face of these uh ops and enemies that are on social
00:29:53.360 media yes he would he wouldn't debate someone like uh tommy wouldn't debate someone like him because
00:29:57.600 he knows that the crowd will be against him he'll know he knows that um that dan will put him in his
00:30:04.240 place because he he speaks sense and he doesn't he doesn't want to debate another white man he wants
00:30:08.400 to go and debate tommy wants to debate brown people with low iq that's who that's the the usual
00:30:13.920 target he wants to debate somebody's unknown quantity with a very low iq so that he can say
00:30:20.880 and tommy's not a debater tommy's not an academic tommy's not anything tommy's a street agitator
00:30:27.120 that's fine he can he can say on the street but in fact what's worse is that he's a street agitator
00:30:31.920 that's not even an agitator on the streets of the uk because he agitates from greece when other people
00:30:38.880 with his uh lackeys and followers and whipping boys here in the uk will do his work for him
00:30:44.400 because they uh feel disenfranchised and have no one else to go to i mean dan's not a debater either
00:30:50.960 dan bozerian is a business mogul as a poker player he does not have a debate background whatsoever so i
00:30:56.880 thought it was pretty well matched and also they had a back and forth on twitter there were
00:31:01.840 what's his name tommy robinson was accusing myself and dan bozerian of being paid by iran and saudi
00:31:06.640 and i had this funny conversation with dan it's like if someone was going to offer us money to don't
00:31:11.280 pose and take pictures with the quran we i would i would take the money if somebody was offering up
00:31:16.080 some giant sums of money in order to promote islam i would gladly take it but there there is none well
00:31:21.760 what tommy robinson is doing is project psychological projection because that he is
00:31:26.880 um on the record of getting money through zionist entities so he thinks everyone deals with life the
00:31:32.000 way he deals with it you know he gets money money over morals all these kind of things then he does
00:31:37.280 so he's on the record of you know getting funds and stuff like that and people have shown loki for
00:31:43.360 example has shown uh the trail to the zionist uh causes and so he's he's projecting he's saying oh you
00:31:51.120 know sneaker is getting money from saudi arabia but somehow now i didn't know that saudi arabia was
00:31:57.520 offering money for people that are doing uh dawah that's that's the first time i've heard of it
00:32:03.680 because if they were i mean i've been in the game for a very long time i think i deserve the first
00:32:08.320 one in the line i should be getting some money from the saudi to be honest with you but um you know i
00:32:15.520 mean it's it's a modest cause honest genuinely i mean the thing is that that was a very modest cause
00:32:21.200 and you'll find that no one probably offered you anything in the time the only thing we offer in
00:32:26.240 islam is truth and brotherhood and and that's all the things we need that's it uh dan mozerian
00:32:33.440 same thing he's saying that he's only lost money talking about this he's lost millions of dollars
00:32:38.240 people have pulled out of his businesses the shareholders want to get rid of him as the ceo
00:32:42.320 because he's speaking up about palestine it's uh it's a cause that you you lose a lot for but
00:32:46.880 you you gain a nobility and respect from the community
00:32:51.200 yeah because if you i mean some look the people who have stood up for these causes
00:32:56.240 are going to be etched in history as people who spoke the truth people like muhammad ali people
00:33:01.520 like malcolm x there's no question even at their time if you read malcolm x which i know that you have
00:33:07.280 you'll find that he found um you know people in his time really opposing him you know for what he was
00:33:14.480 saying they considered him to be an extremist they considered him to be out of the ordinary and he was
00:33:19.520 fighting against the tide but at the end of the day you know this is actually what gives us meaning
00:33:24.560 and power and strength because we can either decide to be sheep or shepherd there's no third option in
00:33:32.080 the age of social media now you can either decide to bring people to a noble cause and to the truth
00:33:38.640 or you can decide to follow everyone else in what they're doing and go go with the modern ideology of
00:33:44.480 the day the fad of the day whether it's lgbtq ideology whether it's trans ideology whatever it is
00:33:51.520 you can decide to go with that and you'll be forgotten and rendered uh irrelevant in the dust
00:33:57.040 bins of history the trash heap of history or you could decide to speak the truth and then you can have
00:34:02.320 a legacy which is inshallah from our perspective as muslims sadaqatun jariya or this idea of a continual
00:34:10.160 charity you know it's a continuous after you die if you leave something good then your your good deeds
00:34:17.440 continue we believe if you've left something good like for example if we leave an orphanage or for
00:34:22.720 example if you leave a water well or for example if you've left good knowledge or good dawah that
00:34:27.040 brings people to islam and that removes the doubts away from the people this kind of thing we believe will
00:34:33.840 continue after your death in a spiritual sense and in a material sense what they have is not going to
00:34:39.680 continue uh even within their own lives let alone after their death i appreciate you for coming on
00:34:45.600 this was uh informative a good uh precursor to watching this debate so thanks a lot i know that
00:34:51.440 it's very late over there in london mohammed a job thanks so much no no thank you so much bro
00:34:55.360 i'll see you soon bro all right see you soon assalamualaikum