SNEAKO - SNEAKO Interviews Sulaiman Ahmed

00:00:00.000 there we go how are you bro i'm doing good i'm doing good good to see you good to see you're

00:00:10.740 looking good man the shades look good too i'm trying to hit the miami vibe you see

00:00:15.960 is this your first time here it's my first time in miami obviously i've been to america a number

00:00:20.000 of times but i'm it's just beautiful isn't it america well welcome it's good to finally have

00:00:24.460 you on my stream bro it's gonna be fire let me let me tweet it out to my peeps yeah there's been

00:00:28.620 there's been quite a bunch uh quite a bit of x news a lot of twitter news recently um that we

00:00:34.520 could speak about like the the house bill if you want to tweet it yeah go ahead but um yeah there's

00:00:39.380 quite a bit that i want to speak about how was fresh and fit yesterday oh it was amazing i loved it it

00:00:43.380 was really good we smashed it out and then uh and then they want me back on for like a debate with

00:00:48.940 destiny that's what i was talking about i know you've had uh you've had a few debates with him

00:00:52.300 isn't it so i mean some of them are debates sometimes you just kind of like spurge autistic

00:00:56.060 yelling you know i've tried to like talk to to xqc and then and then of course he'll be in the call

00:01:01.200 because he wants to you know he wants to make it about himself but you know i i kind of i kind of

00:01:06.960 feel bad for the guy you know like people that don't have a lot of meaning in their lives i don't

00:01:10.740 um it seems like um like people like that are unhappy like people who lead hey hedonistic lives

00:01:17.900 well i 100 agree because what happens is when you don't have some kind of like structure or meaning

00:01:23.680 or with destiny it seems like he has no kind of principles in his life as well like what is this

00:01:29.880 kind of framework that he goes by so clearly he's not a liberal clearly he's not a leftist he's just

00:01:36.300 some random guy it seems like who takes a position that is the most outrageous in order to get views

00:01:42.700 i don't think it's the most outrageous i think i figured it out over the the years of debating him

00:01:46.280 it's just that he's uh he likes to submit to power whatever is the narrative that's being pushed

00:01:51.760 by the most amount of power he has to follow so if they tell you get vaccinated he's pro vaccine

00:01:56.180 if the status quo wants you to go and support israel he's supporting israel if they're saying

00:02:00.860 that trump is a bad person he's a racist then then biden is good and trump is bad he always follows

00:02:05.520 whatever the systems of power want him to follow that actually makes a lot of sense actually yeah

00:02:09.580 right he's always going to submit to what they tell him because there's no real consistency it's like

00:02:14.680 wait why do you even like biden he's clearly he's falling over the steps yeah string of sense no no

00:02:19.300 what proves your point is the fact that kovid had a vast number of people there so it's not

00:02:23.020 obviously going for the outlier position he's going for like the most powerful position that

00:02:26.400 makes sense yeah and so if they're if they're saying that there's a million he's gonna he's

00:02:30.720 gonna always believe that so once you understand that you're like okay he's gonna just follow

00:02:33.860 whatever the narrative is yeah um so it's gone back what are you gonna debate about israel

00:02:39.200 israel palestine great so have you discussed it with him before um i tried to and then he left the

00:02:44.680 call for the last debate you know i i brought it up and then he said and then he left the call

00:02:48.960 all right but yeah we we have spoken about it before i mean it's hard to deny like even that's

00:02:53.640 what i love about this movement right now is the unity between muslims and the trannies right we have

00:03:00.400 a stuff for love but you know there's a there's a common denominator even the christians and muslims

00:03:04.540 like he tweeted about the christian muslim alliance yesterday with nick fuentes he got back on twitter

00:03:08.180 today that was good like i'm not saying i'm the reason but all i know is randomly

00:03:13.060 we meet him yesterday right yeah so correlation causation right and the next day he's back on

00:03:18.200 twitter so you can call it correlation you can call it causation but all you know is he's back

00:03:22.120 today isn't it that's great i don't know actually let's check right now and see if it's finally up

00:03:25.640 so elon musk tweeted earlier that uh the nick is back but let's see i don't know i checked last and

00:03:31.300 it was still suspended nah i'll take so it still stays suspended but um he did announce that it's

00:03:37.520 coming back so yeah he tweeted it in a comment so i was like yeah very well he'll be reinstated

00:03:42.440 provided he does not violate the law and let him be crushed by comments on community notes

00:03:46.100 it's better to have anti-whatever out in the open to be rebutted than grow simmering in the darkness

00:03:51.360 so i i think that's uh what's important about that is why he was brought back is i think a multitude of

00:03:57.520 reasons first of all obviously his movement is on another level right you can't mess with the

00:04:01.620 gripers like even on twitter anyone gives me grief they're on it like literally banging out clips

00:04:07.040 banging out everything to destroy anyone right that's the first aspect of it and the second aspect is

00:04:11.640 i think elon musk was to an extent people are starting to question his credibility when it

00:04:16.020 came to free speech um so i think this was a smart move to me it's fraudulent he keeps saying he's the

00:04:21.080 free speech platform and immediately they're like okay why is nick not exactly exactly you know i got

00:04:25.440 back i was reinstated with when elon joined but not him well no he came back remember and then he got

00:04:30.040 banned within the day yeah i think he said something yeah something about hitler yeah yeah and so the

00:04:34.260 issue is because remember we talked to nick right and i don't think any of his views are outrageous

00:04:39.840 initially i thought so i thought his positions were like christian ethno nationalist state right and

00:04:44.840 then we discussed it right with him we had lunch yesterday yeah yeah all right so his views are

00:04:49.360 definitely not that his views i would say are very similar to ours and i'm extremely pro immigration

00:04:53.400 right i'm not saying he's extremely pro immigration but it's not that far out there and so what happens

00:04:58.020 is in reality people are given this label of nazi and they're giving it to everybody and it's a way of

00:05:02.760 just banning them i got it today again by media matters um what was the reason shout out to media

00:05:06.760 matters for destroying all credibility from ancient news but they said i'll show it to you right now

00:05:10.640 um yeah i get that every day like pro nazi streamer sneeko did you you get any of them i've never been

00:05:18.000 called a nazi this one wasn't today but uh here's a clip even those hit pieces they do right they

00:05:23.220 always go praises nazi this is me in easy studio i don't even know what i said but yeah okay regardless

00:05:29.840 yeah i mean media matters destroyed all credibility for the news but um you were saying yeah i've been looking

00:05:34.460 yeah they're not actually calling me a nazi they even had a list of like nazi accounts they had my

00:05:38.340 boy censored men which he's definitely not a nazi right but they had a few accounts in there jake

00:05:42.200 sheila the guys but yeah they didn't put me in there so i was like quite surprised congratulations

00:05:45.760 yeah yeah i made it so what is your overall position i didn't get to watch your fresh and fit show

00:05:49.980 yesterday i've been following you on twitter for uh over a year something like that i got to meet your

00:05:53.900 your brother in dubai yeah he likes you a lot he's a big fan of yours yeah as he is of gary uh so he's

00:05:59.180 big fan of both you guys but yeah my position generally speaking he's talking about numerology i have a lot of

00:06:03.400 numerology guys in here yeah yeah and yeah so uh you know my position on that right so coming back

00:06:09.800 to it right um my position on what so i think i've got a wide range of opinion uh on things so i'm left

00:06:15.720 on certain positions i'm right on certain positions and and some positions i think i'm more right than

00:06:20.800 the standard islamic position and then i'd say in some positions i'm a bit more left than the standard

00:06:25.520 islamic position so i kind of vary on on all things so i don't just fit into one box in anything so i

00:06:30.940 always say like ask me anything about any issue and i'll break it down but generally speaking i

00:06:34.660 don't think i fit into any box because of free speech right so we always free speech like i think

00:06:39.720 you're a free speech absolutist as well isn't it yeah i mean that see that's where it kind of muddies

00:06:43.440 because as a muslim you're not even supposed to believe that right it's not an islamic belief to

00:06:47.140 be a free speech absolutist um so when it comes to disrespect to the prophets all of a sudden like

00:06:51.120 yeah look that's um problematic because for example you're right there is blasphemy laws and i

00:06:57.000 obviously have certain disagreements with certain positions not that i'm certain against the

00:07:00.060 blasphemy laws completely uh but from a living in the west perspective i'm definitely i'm free

00:07:05.740 speech absolutist because in reality look um and even then i think anywhere anytime you're able to

00:07:12.040 relay your ideas and you let somebody else relay their ideas you're able to expose their lies and

00:07:16.780 say the truth so even from an islamic perspective it is beneficial to be a free speech absolutist let me

00:07:22.440 give you an example dr anna you know dr anna lucas oh yeah the twitter yeah yeah so she's huge on

00:07:27.000 twitter right but she was like i don't think she'll see this as an offense to say this but she was kind

00:07:32.040 of like islamophobic right she was tommy robinson crew and you know like full-on thinking islam was

00:07:37.460 messed up and then only by willing to engage with her that i basically demonstrated that actually islam

00:07:43.920 isn't what you think it is and now she's the most vocal pro-palestine account the most vocal

00:07:50.960 uh against islamophobia than there is so i think all the only time you want to sense a speech even

00:07:57.280 within islam is if you're afraid of your ideas like i'm not afraid of my ideas i don't think

00:08:02.040 you'll be afraid of your ideas and so in reality when you're not then that it's going to be a way

00:08:06.600 of dawah so either it could be and dawah doesn't just mean like for example bringing people to islam

00:08:12.100 but also giving a positive outlook of what islam is really about um and so for me i think it's

00:08:17.100 extremely beneficial like up to now since i've been like full-on absolute free speech i've never

00:08:22.400 had an issue it's just beneficial so what what negative is there to do that so like even let's

00:08:27.680 say someone is blaspheming against the prophet you can just smash them in a debate expose them in terms

00:08:33.200 of their own viewpoints whether they're liberals whether they're of another religion or whatever

00:08:37.080 it may be so there's never in my view any negative issue from an islamic perspective is only

00:08:41.620 going to be a benefit okay so i should allow everything i mean it's been kind of a controversial

00:08:45.680 subject i have like this twitter community love speech and uh a lot of them also like you should

00:08:49.500 ban people who disrespect islam it's like well i mean we should be able to have open discussion i am

00:08:53.920 a free speech uh yeah absolutely because if you have open discussion with them you're gonna they're

00:08:58.080 gonna see your ideas are so strong yeah but then why would you not want to do it yeah i mean oh one of

00:09:02.240 the we were watching this clip earlier one of the the most vocal islamophobes um tommy uh pico done a

00:09:07.640 very uh very there's this video here i'll play it um on the speaker he's basically saying uh he saw my video

00:09:14.480 called letter for mecca and it was so good that he he was insisting that i must have been funded by

00:09:18.900 saudi so he got a very a very good video that was that was about going to saudi arabia which i'd say

00:09:26.060 was heavily funded professionally made and that is to convert people to islam and bring people to

00:09:30.720 islam i believe they've probably got contracts to do this um you know because as i said it's nothing

00:09:36.200 it's nothing for the prince of saudi arabia to spend yeah i saw somebody like i don't really know

00:09:40.700 these people but it's like they're so vocally anti-islam that's like and the fact that they

00:09:45.220 see this video and they have no idea how to conceptualize that somebody could do something

00:09:48.700 without monetary gain well it's funny and also a good point to show that it's good to have these

00:09:53.260 because you if you're able to convert the most vocal islamophobes then that's one of the most

00:09:57.360 someone like tommy robinson and laura luma there's no chance you can convert them right because

00:10:01.160 they're extreme islamophobes and so actually tommy robinson there is it's very easy

00:10:06.840 he just needs to get paid so well that's not true no no that's true so look at his history

00:10:12.440 so the reason he thinks you're paid because that's his psychology that's the way he is so

00:10:17.220 look at his past so his past was he came from luton he was kind of this like hate islam you know

00:10:22.780 whatever it may be he gets to an organization called quilliam foundation quilliam foundation is

00:10:27.700 an organization that was run by muslims majid nawas and few and these are muslims but really they were

00:10:34.000 helping towards the islamophone be it industry but in a not in a very overt way so tommy robinson

00:10:40.160 gets paid and he stops attacking islam like overtly and he says look i've changed my way

00:10:45.000 he's doing this speech like i changed my ways i've left for the better as soon as that contract's over

00:10:48.880 he goes back to what he was before right and then now he's getting paid by the zionist lobby

00:10:53.260 shillman and various others so yeah tommy robinson is you could actually get him because you could

00:10:58.260 it's just about who pays him so he's assuming you're getting paid because that's the way he is

00:11:01.660 right right but you don't think that the most vocal islamophobes can end up converting like oh

00:11:06.080 well i mean one of the most popular videos that i had was like me and stuff like i was like mocking

00:11:10.100 the prayer back when i was a disbeliever and then i converted last year right i've seen a lot of like

00:11:14.460 there's a the story of this this woman who was writing a book about why islam is terrible

00:11:18.040 and then during her research she ended up you know taking her shahada yeah i mean logically obviously

00:11:23.240 this is always possible but like i think your scenario is different because like obviously to use the

00:11:28.200 example about breaking free from the matrix but you've always kind of had the psychology and even

00:11:32.660 my discussions with you right you're not somebody who just wants to be controlled by one idea like

00:11:37.040 you're always exploring always questioning always thinking like the way you are right now imagine

00:11:42.700 what you're going to be in 10 years yeah so someone like you it just makes a lot of sense that you

00:11:46.100 would do that but like for example someone like these people who for 20 30 years their whole life has

00:11:51.880 been entrenched in it obviously everything's possible because for example in islamic history

00:11:56.100 the one of the caliphs umar he was the most vocal hater of islam right he was abusive before he

00:12:04.440 became muslim and then the prophet peace be upon him did a prayer and then he converted to islam and

00:12:08.840 when he converted to islam he was like the biggest g within islam like to the level where and in my view

00:12:14.460 he's like one of the most biggest geniuses like i respect him so much from his mind also physically

00:12:20.300 he's very strong as well like he smashed people up but also from his intellect he was brilliant

00:12:24.220 like the way he would analyze islamic law and apply it from a uh from a situational perspective

00:12:31.240 was on another level so for example during a time of famine he was literally like oh it's famine now

00:12:37.940 so ordinarily stealing has like x punishment chopping off the hands or whatever it may be whatever the

00:12:42.780 there's a grid a grid grades when it comes to punishments right and he was like look i'm gonna

00:12:48.020 pause that so even though it's the standard situation but from a logical perspective right now i'm not

00:12:54.080 gonna apply it so he was like that's just one example but he's just a genius guy so he's an

00:12:57.860 example he proves your point and so i think you're right of course but just from my experience of some

00:13:02.400 of these extreme islamophobes who are literally getting paid to be this and have become so entrenched

00:13:08.000 in it it's a lot harder so how do you think you're gonna go uh attack the zionism debate tomorrow

00:13:12.940 what is your well this is it i was gonna try and get some pointers from you as well but like with

00:13:18.680 destiny obviously he talks fast but i talk faster right so he's not got that on me but in terms of

00:13:24.580 him i mean i think i'm gonna focus in on obviously what's happened since october the 7th i mean you're

00:13:30.700 gonna you're gonna it's gonna be easy for you it's gonna be cakewalk um he gets disrespectful from with

00:13:35.000 me because there's not a moderator yeah and like there's like some um you know personal things

00:13:40.320 involved like um you know from whatever like when he was streaming in the past yeah streaming in the

00:13:44.860 past like his wife came here before so stuff like that like so he gets like offended right right but

00:13:48.440 he's not gonna get disrespectful with you because myron's gonna be moderating right um and he doesn't

00:13:52.060 know you so he doesn't know how to the best thing is to just to avoid the ad-hom things and he's not

00:13:56.040 gonna try that with you as long as you don't mind that i'll be at home back to him like i never i

00:13:59.660 always treat people the way they treat me like you should never be afraid to like attack somebody but

00:14:04.040 he's not gonna do it because myron's not gonna allow that to happen on the show so he's gonna just

00:14:07.660 stick to zionism because when it comes to that like you can't you can't just how destructive it is you

00:14:12.580 can't deny that there's a gesture happening if you just stick to that he's gonna try to like

00:14:16.100 move the goalposts that's his like main tactic like and then he talks about something else just

00:14:20.660 stay on track and you're gonna know how to do that so i think it's gonna be cakewalk as long

00:14:23.940 as you just uh stick to that don't try to talk about um don't try to steer off in the tangents

00:14:29.160 when he tries yeah yeah so he's gonna try and steer off the chance on into tangents so with the

00:14:33.160 tape one when i debated him that was a lot more easier because i knew like i know the palestines

00:14:37.160 really well but i knew the topic really well whereas i think he didn't know it as well

00:14:41.180 and so i think he was like shook and he didn't expect it and so that was a lot easier i think

00:14:46.580 with this one because i know he debated finkelstein right and he debated a few people so one assumes

00:14:52.080 you don't know anything you look at your wikipedia yeah yeah yeah i saw that i saw a clip of that

00:14:57.400 so and and the bits i've seen because i did watch i've started watching a little bit to see it but

00:15:01.260 it was just fickenstein ridiculing him so really he didn't get a chance to make any points

00:15:04.700 um so it's gonna be interesting to see like if he's actually talked about this or not

00:15:08.100 i look forward to seeing that and i mean the major weak point i want to ask you about this

00:15:11.600 we were speaking about this at lunch yesterday um is the age of asia like that's been the number one

00:15:16.380 uh point of like weakness i would say that people who try to attack islam they go after quite a bit

00:15:21.300 which is a hadith and from your point of view it's not even uh it's not even a strong hadith that's the

00:15:26.040 first time because like you've been you're telling me about the the salafis like the dawa guys that i

00:15:30.280 that i'm around it they have a strong position that the the age was six when muhammad he's gone

00:15:35.460 and married uh isha and that the consummation was at nine that's right that's like the overall

00:15:39.380 belief from for most people um but even hadith is not the main part of islam that you're supposed

00:15:44.260 to believe in it's quran sunnah you know what the prophet did peace be upon him and then what's

00:15:48.780 in the quran which is the message from allah that's it quran sunnah halas so sunnah hadith is

00:15:52.500 part of sunnah right so i just want to make this clear because i'll explain this properly because

00:15:56.520 we know we've got a bit of time so you have the quran yeah quran is from god it's the word of god

00:16:01.720 it means that we as muslims believe it's 100 7 and i 100 say that there's no nothing in the quran

00:16:09.780 that's a mistake that is a mistake and there's no contradiction in the quran right so you'll never

00:16:13.620 be able to be like you know this is this is in chapter 20 and this is chapter 5 and there's a

00:16:18.200 contradiction it's not it's i'm never it's not going to be possible for you to find it and on top

00:16:22.260 of that i believe the quran is not just a linguistic miracle as most people agree most

00:16:26.200 i think it's a numerological miracle as well it's just a miracle in all aspects right so for example

00:16:31.180 in the quran it mentions the angels the same just think how big the quran is and it'll mention angels

00:16:37.220 the same amount of times it mentions jinn it'll mention night the same amount of times it mentions

00:16:41.800 men and women and men and women so it's just it's perfect it's just perfection right so there could be

00:16:47.180 no mistake on it now what happened in islam was there was lots of hadith right lots and lots of

00:16:52.000 generations and what and everybody agrees on this one there's no no muslim who doesn't agree

00:16:56.220 that someone fabricated and so because some are fabricated they create everyone create there was

00:17:02.940 mechanisms that were created to find out which hadith were sahih like authentic and which ones

00:17:08.460 were not authentic so now the question becomes a the mechanism that's been used which mechanism are

00:17:14.980 you going to use right to be able to authenticate so everybody agrees that when it comes to hadith

00:17:19.120 that it could be right or it could be false now we're going to figure out if it's right or wrong

00:17:22.780 but even when we decide it's right we're not going to say it's certain because it still could be wrong

00:17:27.420 but we just made the you know we made an incorrect judgment so what happens is most muslims so i just

00:17:32.760 want to be clear on this most muslims use a method methodology from a later scholar who came about

00:17:37.840 year 600 which is ibn salam and so from that they put the mechanism in and they say look this narration is

00:17:43.000 is authentic that's what the term salafi which is like a sect of islam so i apologize for like the

00:17:48.240 people that aren't muslim because this is right yeah yeah so i'm just it's epistemology though so

00:17:51.580 you should be like i'm explaining it from like an epistemological perspective so you have this

00:17:55.440 information and you're trying to figure out you put it through a little machine and you're figuring

00:17:58.720 out if it's real or not so the school of thought or you've got a salafi comes from the people who

00:18:03.660 follow the scholar ibn salam no no no so salafism in itself comes from actually the 1920s so it was

00:18:10.380 based and it's a bit more complex than this so very recent yeah it's recent in terms of it got

00:18:14.460 propagated by uh abdul wahab and the south family basically made an alliance so you know saudi arabia

00:18:21.220 the rulers of south arabia they made an alliance to propagate that ideology but some people say it

00:18:25.520 only started then but i say no their ideology has obviously been there for a very long time

00:18:29.080 as has sufism as has hanafis as a sharpie so all these different sects and groups have been there for

00:18:34.940 a very long time right but ibn salam is just it's hadith so it's not what this has got nothing to do

00:18:39.400 with salafis just that the dawah guys are salafi right and so what happened is you know the hadith

00:18:45.160 when it comes to age of aisha it's a hadith it's not in quran so even though for example you have

00:18:51.360 it in the torah where you can marry a three-year-old and you have it in right so that's in the torah

00:18:57.360 yeah yeah so sorry in the talmud so they've got it in their text and the difference with talmud is

00:19:01.740 they actually consider a certain knowledge whereas we don't consider a certain knowledge

00:19:05.180 so do you see the difference so they put a higher value to the talmud information that we do to

00:19:11.360 hadith so why need this up for interpretation hadith is up for interpretation and hadith is up for to

00:19:18.320 check whether it's real or not so in the end when we do this process me salafis everyone we all agree

00:19:25.080 on this on 99 percent of hadith but we disagree on that one percent because i use what i believe is the

00:19:30.900 earlier classical position which is the hanafi position of authentic and whether a hadith is

00:19:34.820 legitimate enough because imam abu hanifa was the second generation straight up for the prophet

00:19:38.040 peace be upon him so how old was asia so in my view she was 18 she was 18 she was 18 right and the

00:19:43.260 reason for that is because that hadith at age of nine the person who narrated it had a weak memory

00:19:48.640 when they went to iraq and he narrated it when he was in iraq so that's one of the arguments pretty

00:19:54.320 pretty bad memory to max up six and 18 um well then no no you're right so in because i just i just

00:20:02.080 think the whole hadith is fabricated right because at that time no one used to say this person's nine

00:20:05.960 this person's 12 this person 15 they would say this person was was this many cycles more than

00:20:11.020 this other person or i was born so many cycles after the year of fuel so that's how age was measured

00:20:16.120 was the amount of period cycles you had yeah after after a certain event so let's say it'll be like

00:20:20.900 a sneaker was born 10 years after badr or 10 cycles after badr or something they wouldn't be like

00:20:25.800 or sneaker was 25 as an example so coming back to i think the hadith is fabricated these guys

00:20:31.760 believe it's real um but it's just based on hadith on that specific do you have an example of another

00:20:36.520 hadith that you think is fabricated or is that the only one no no there's a few everyone thinks

00:20:40.120 hadith is fabricated it's just this is one that i think is fabricated they think is real there's

00:20:43.420 some that they think i think is real and they think is fabricated so another one is age of apostasy

00:20:47.260 i mean sorry killing the apostate i think it's a direct contradiction with the quran so the quran

00:20:51.960 doesn't the quran say that you're supposed to uh but in battle that you're supposed if somebody

00:20:55.620 leaves islam that you're supposed to attack them no quran never says that there's nothing quran

00:20:58.740 quran is the opposite you know the quran says uh there is no compulsion in religion okay that

00:21:05.060 means complete freedom of religion compulsion means you're not going to force someone into the

00:21:08.820 religion or force anyone but what's what's the verse in the quran where it says um if somebody

00:21:12.780 leaves that you're supposed to um i'm pretty sure that was in the quran it's it's a hadith so hadith

00:21:19.380 says that if someone leaves the religion then kill them okay so for me quran is saying there's

00:21:25.400 no freedom of religion yeah and hadith is saying there isn't so there's a contradiction so i just

00:21:29.140 go down okay yeah i i thought there was something that was a passage in the quran maybe if somebody

00:21:34.480 could um i was just reading it during ramadan um that said something like that you're supposed to

00:21:39.260 um like it wasn't kill but it was like fight them yeah something like that no no so that that again

00:21:45.640 is contextually so this is what islamophobes use against muslims they're like oh it says fight them

00:21:49.080 wherever you see them fight them that's what it was yeah yeah so that's a battle and actually again

00:21:53.840 this shows that why quran and this is why i believe that you need hadith so i'm not a rejecter of

00:21:57.460 hadith although people accuse me of that because i don't accept these couple of hadith but um what

00:22:02.900 that was is contextually what happened was you know at that time you had basically people who

00:22:06.680 converted to islam but then you had some people who were still their friends who claimed to be their

00:22:11.840 friends claimed to be the allies and some of them maybe even their family members who hadn't

00:22:15.700 converted and what they were doing was planning to betray them right so now imagine you're on the

00:22:21.500 battlefield and you see someone who was your childhood friend who's on the other side he's

00:22:25.960 about to kill you or somebody who you'd grown up with and they're planning to kill you and you don't

00:22:30.940 do nothing what's gonna happen you're gonna get murked right so what the quran is saying is look when

00:22:35.680 you see them in the battlefield then fight them what do you consider a battle could you consider a

00:22:40.200 debate a battlefield no definitely not you gotta kill someone just because you were like disagree

00:22:44.460 or maybe it's like it's metaphorical like maybe you could destroy them you can kill them in the

00:22:48.580 debate well you shouldn't be able to do that anyway because from a logical perspective but

00:22:53.000 specifically that so again you know these islamophobes they can only take things out of

00:22:56.880 context because i'm telling you islam is the most logical perfect perfect peaceful i agree i agree

00:23:02.460 yeah that i would say that was the the major point of contention i actually i remember asking that

00:23:07.620 to muhammad ajab when i first um when i was thinking about reverting or like right when i

00:23:12.660 reverted he asked like do you have any questions about islam and i brought that up because that's

00:23:16.020 the number one thing that that people always like harp on about and i it's not even like the

00:23:20.880 what you're supposed to focus on is quran sunnah like you're that's the so hadith is considered

00:23:25.280 sunnah because i don't want to like give you all the information yeah yeah because hadith is

00:23:28.920 not all of it right isn't sunnah the actions actions yeah so it would have to be the conversations

00:23:33.900 so hadith is the sunnah is what it's the actions words and the silent approval of the

00:23:39.940 proper peace be upon him so the words come in there so sunnah is three components it's the

00:23:44.340 actions the words and something that's proper peace be upon him silently approved so it's all three

00:23:49.360 okay so what's the example of another hadith that's up for interpretation uh which i disagree with

00:23:56.000 yeah um for example you're asking me but you're basically asking me all the controversial ones

00:24:01.420 now so for example there's a hadith that says uh you know burn burn the homosexual um

00:24:08.060 so um we have um other narrations as well as scholars have said that burning is never a punishment

00:24:19.120 within islam right so that's an example what contradicts another hadith and also contradicts um

00:24:25.560 um this the the kind of like framework of the scholars so yeah there's a few that i disagree

00:24:32.020 with that are problematic okay um some people are like you get some people think that's that's good

00:24:38.800 they're saying rare w i thought i'd get more hate because um what it is is people lose their mind when

00:24:45.200 you don't accept certain hadith so they automatically assume i'm a kranist because a kranist is someone

00:24:49.060 who just believes in quran right but i'm not i'm literally not a kranist but i'm not someone who

00:24:55.120 takes the hadith over quran i've never heard the term kranist who's an example of a kranist is like

00:24:58.900 abu damia because he's somebody that uh when we had a conversation in mecca he said that he doesn't

00:25:03.500 subscribe to a school of thought it's just quran sunnah like same thing with tam khan for example i'm

00:25:07.660 sure you know him that i'm kind of my mate is a good guy yeah he's a great guy yeah i remember we're in

00:25:12.320 a car leaving uh tari prayer he's just like quran sunnah halas like he doesn't fall into salafi

00:25:17.080 marhali all this stuff it's just i'm a muslim that's what i like i'm just a muslim that's what

00:25:21.420 it should be that's what it should be so my my problem is this that i will uh and again i'm not

00:25:25.520 boasting right i don't want to summarize that because like theology is my expertise right so

00:25:29.660 when you learn theology to the level that i learned it i i only come to two conclusions because i find

00:25:37.300 flaws in every single school of thought right you either think everyone's a disbeliever or you

00:25:43.840 think now god's gonna overlook these kind of minor errors and i take that okay what's some of the

00:25:49.300 pushback you get like some people are saying you're a liberal muslim it doesn't seem like you have any

00:25:52.680 positions that are no no like it's because you're saying you don't want to burn people yeah yeah so

00:25:55.920 i'm not i'm not let me give you an example of how i'm more conservative than some muslim position

00:26:00.340 right so for example abortion abortion i'm it's haram from day zero

00:26:04.960 but the muslim position is more lenient what's the muslim position so according to

00:26:10.220 two narrations one narration says that the soul is breathed breathed into the into the into the

00:26:16.480 fetus at the 40 days the main the other main one is three months right so from that then we have

00:26:23.700 certain rulings saying that look that in certain circumstances abortion you could abort before

00:26:27.380 yeah yeah 120 days but you think absolutely not i think i'm dizzy it's plan b abortion plan b is the

00:26:33.440 pill isn't it it's like pill you get from walgreens and so there's a very good question i asked about

00:26:37.520 that um and from what i understand because the actual thing happens after six hours um from what

00:26:44.700 i understand it's a bit of a close call okay yeah okay but now it's not specific it's not

00:26:51.120 specifically so basically muslim standard position dale says definitely not right according to my position

00:26:56.740 because i think as soon as it happens as soon as the uh semen basically hits the egg i think from

00:27:03.300 that because the the dna is within there uh i was gonna write a book on this but then i just got busy

00:27:08.320 but the point is yeah so i think it's from day zero um and i'm very strong on that so that's me being

00:27:12.800 more conservative than the muslim position it's just for me islam isn't something that's liberal

00:27:17.240 isn't something that's conservative it's just something logical we transcend liberalism yeah trying to

00:27:21.900 apply political ideologies to theology seems yeah so i like as an example i'm completely for gender

00:27:28.960 defined gender roles i believe that uh for example um you know a woman should basically listen to her

00:27:35.300 husband and so on so forth but then at the same time she should obey her husband she should obey her

00:27:38.520 husband but at the same time i gave this example yesterday right uh i still believe a woman can be

00:27:43.100 a scholar so as an although maybe it's a question of she's gonna be as good as a male scholar

00:27:47.340 which i don't think it is yeah but for example um um aisha the wife of the prophet narrated

00:27:54.240 the majority of hadith the one was one of the biggest narrators of hadith abu harara was the

00:27:59.340 most but he was she was one of the biggest narrators of hadith um and she was a woman whereas

00:28:02.700 in judaism you might like this prefer this position actually in judaism like they're like no these guys

00:28:06.860 these women are low intelligence they cannot be scholars they cannot be rabbis and they cannot even

00:28:11.440 learn the talmud so jews are base according to that position i'm joking around yeah um but you

00:28:18.960 you've been very vocal about zionism uh and where do you think how do you think that we could do a

00:28:24.080 better job of uh pushing this conversation forward like because again we have so many um christians

00:28:29.420 that watch it so well even a lot of jews what what's the what criticism do you have of the people

00:28:33.780 that are noticing so first of all you mentioned christians right so i'm all for the muslim christian

00:28:38.900 alliance yeah i think it's important we're all for it and i probably loved your stream with uh

00:28:42.580 cuentus right i thought that was very monumental and i think it can make a huge difference

00:28:46.260 christian muslim alliance going forward because remember muslims have been demonized in the west

00:28:50.520 for so long yeah and now that you've basically got a group that i was willing to relate the accuracy

00:28:55.580 of what muslim islam is all about and it's not coming from muslims it's a huge positive in terms of

00:28:59.780 jews i respect jews a lot right jewish and this is where my disagreement with uh the cuentus crew is

00:29:05.320 because they blame like jews for a lot of things whereas for me it's zionism right and because i

00:29:09.740 think like there's more christian zionists than there is a jewish zionist that's very true yeah

00:29:13.240 the protestants and all the american politicians yeah i mean okay their argument would be that

00:29:17.680 they're not real christians the zionist created protestism protestant movement isn't it so that's

00:29:22.480 what would be their argument right uh but anyway just and i'm just giving you their argument now

00:29:26.100 coming back to it in terms of jewish theology i rate it a lot and maybe for some people who consider

00:29:31.920 a more a more stricter religion from the law perspective they're much more stricter than

00:29:35.780 islam and christianity in all aspects for example we say homosexuality is a sin right and we say

00:29:42.160 there's punishment right but then the punishment is lower like for example ta'zir like for example

00:29:46.360 it's like the judge tells them off and this is when you do public indecency the judge will tell

00:29:50.780 them off and if they still don't listen then they'll be lashing and so on and so forth right

00:29:53.600 but not like murdering them whereas in judaism you just murder them right so you can see the

00:29:58.540 how they're much more harsher we don't allow it they don't allow it but their punishment's harsher

00:30:02.560 so that's jewish laws harsher but jewish theology i rate a lot right and i think jewish view on god is

00:30:08.380 very much i don't even know what they believe in like really like uh i know

00:30:13.040 we talk about in hollywood and stuff like but it's hard to really figure out like what do

00:30:17.440 what is the jewish ideology they don't believe in heaven and hell right jews don't believe in heaven

00:30:23.000 and hell per se from like how we understand it right but they do believe in for example they've been

00:30:28.360 judgment and that basically so their position is like for example let's say i lived a good life

00:30:33.220 right and then what happened is i'll die and there'll be some form of uh reckoning of what i did

00:30:39.980 and then what happens after that they basically don't explain it so some of the theologians have

00:30:44.740 actually said that it's going to be like almost like another life but they don't call it heaven

00:30:48.740 or hell so there's like different they do believe in heaven not specifically heaven and hell because

00:30:52.680 heaven and hell is like a specific understanding of what heaven and hell is

00:30:56.040 and so coming back to it but jewish theology themselves they've got a

00:31:00.220 different perspectives but the more stronger position is actually probably more close to you

00:31:05.300 know what keith keith woods position okay yeah so why do you you think that they get it wrong and

00:31:11.580 they i blame zionism i don't think that judaism is to blame at all i get some pushback as well for

00:31:16.280 that but where does the distinction come in like what separates zionism from judaism because

00:31:20.720 zionism just strictly a political ideology or can you say that that it's a theological position it's not

00:31:25.540 it's not a theological position but they use theology right because they believe in and this

00:31:29.880 is what the irony is because they say they're not religious but it's like isis so isis is a political

00:31:34.120 ideology they use theology to further their gain so it's isis is an extreme element within islam but

00:31:40.780 we don't accept it right similarly um zionism is that extreme element within judaism so even though both

00:31:47.740 use text to further their cause or claims for to further their cause but in reality it's uh it's

00:31:56.540 an anathema now with zionists as we said there's more christian zionists than there is jewish zionists

00:32:01.100 and hence why they're able to control the narrative that they are able to but how did the all those

00:32:04.960 christians turn into israel supporters like was it something that they're was it a conscious decision

00:32:09.260 or is it just straight up brainwashing no it's from text isn't it because they believe

00:32:12.920 that the because so this is why catholics and nick fuentes's crew is different than the protestants

00:32:17.620 right because and this is why they believe that the schofield bible was created to basically

00:32:21.580 put these eschatological statements in there to make it look like and so according to basically

00:32:27.180 control them and make them pro-israel so according to their eschatology the jews need to have their

00:32:32.700 homeland and for the messiah for jesus to return so because that's now in their protestant eschatology

00:32:39.060 then they want to further that for that okay well so but where did it where does the root what is

00:32:43.980 the root of zionism doesn't it come like i was always under the impression that it's because jews

00:32:47.760 believe they're the chosen people they're the chosen people that they get this land what's the

00:32:51.540 what's the origin so for me for me zionism in itself is an ideology based on supremacy so and so

00:32:57.520 i guess chosen people would be an example of that but also they in addition to that want to dominate

00:33:02.780 society and so it's for me if zionism is solely that jews can have their own land i support it as long

00:33:08.640 as they're not oppressing anybody else as long as they're not so give them madagascar any land any

00:33:13.260 land give them anything right detroit um florida because no you're not a zionist uh i went florida

00:33:20.280 too much um but um so any land right as long as they're not oppressing or taking the land of

00:33:26.420 somebody else right but um but the problem is and this is what i think that's that so even though

00:33:32.020 this is that people say or zionism started in the 1870s because they had this movement to create

00:33:37.140 the land i think the psychology of controlling manipulating and dominating happened well before

00:33:43.460 so as an example like impacting the christian movement that's an example i believe that they

00:33:49.400 had a certain impact within islam as well very early on in addition to that you basically got a

00:33:54.720 scenario where now what happened was they thought you know what we need to escalate our domination

00:33:59.420 so in my view i believe that they were oppressed for a very long time right i do believe that i know

00:34:04.400 fuentes's crew think no they think that no they were the ones who were annoying and that's why

00:34:08.400 they got kicked out of 109 countries but the other side is i do think that they were oppressed right

00:34:13.880 now if they were oppressed and it culminated in the holocaust right so the holocaust happened

00:34:19.880 um obviously some people deny the holocaust happened and in terms of the figures i always think like let's

00:34:24.580 not talk about the figures if it's 6 million or if it's 5.2 according to normal finkelstein or even

00:34:30.500 according to some academics it's 3 million the number doesn't matter like a lot of people were

00:34:34.100 kind of does matter but there's no point in saying it because then you might go to jail in europe or

00:34:37.860 something um what do you think so like for example now like when people say the figures matter yeah

00:34:42.120 do you think like for example let's say 2 million were killed rather than 6 million why does that

00:34:45.020 matter uh that's that's 4 million there right so like as an example gaza because i use the same

00:34:51.200 example of gaza when there's i was trying to reduce the numbers let's just 30 000 people died or 15

00:34:56.260 or 80 that's still too much what do you think yeah i mean uh we we should be specific about it

00:35:04.540 especially if they use it so much uh to justify and like we should be specific about the numbers

00:35:09.880 so but then your argument is that we should be specific about the numbers because of uh accuracy

00:35:14.740 and truth yes but in terms of pain wouldn't you think that they're still oppressed if 2 million

00:35:20.860 of them got killed or would you still you'd think that right it's the magnitude of oppression right

00:35:24.840 and that makes sense because the quantity is higher isn't it three times but let's say i said to you

00:35:29.840 it was 15 million do you think they would do you think the magnitude the way they act about it would

00:35:34.860 be the way that it's used now in terms of to cause conformity you think it would be any worse

00:35:41.880 yes you do yeah i do okay okay so if you do then obviously then the numbers do i think i think

00:35:48.880 whereas i my i think that irrespective of the numbers like a lot of people got oppressed

00:35:53.800 and so for that reason and then i think when when you get to certain numbers then it becomes like

00:35:57.920 whoa they've got oppressed then let's not go into this like just you know what i mean but i get your

00:36:01.720 argument as well now coming down back to it they thought you know what we're not going to let this

00:36:05.580 happen again they even say it all the time never again never again right they always say it right

00:36:08.720 and they thought who are the two main groups that are causing this problem to us or who can do it

00:36:13.020 to us again who is it muslims or white christians so we need to dominate these people now the problem

00:36:20.140 with muslims is we can't control them because these guys are so strict on their religion they're so

00:36:25.800 strict in their ideas we can't destroy islam like we can't say look change the quran we can't say

00:36:29.620 look don't believe in these beliefs so now we're gonna have to physically dominate and obviously muslim

00:36:34.020 the most muslim country countries in my view are cowardly right so they're like which country

00:36:40.100 standing up to them right so so they're thinking you know what from a physical perspective these guys

00:36:44.700 are not going to stand and bang and these guys have got a problem when they believe in their ideas

00:36:48.860 i mean so we can't affect the ideas but we can just stand and bang them whereas the white christians

00:36:53.940 it's the other way around they're not strong in their ideas or they haven't been for a very long time

00:36:57.780 hence why you've got gay priests and all these kind of things that's going on right

00:37:00.840 exactly and they both they're strong like they'll always fight like look at british history like

00:37:08.640 these guys have fought over random stuff you look at american history these guys you guys literally

00:37:12.920 threw the bits of brits out because of taxation right like of americans so like when it comes to

00:37:18.500 the white christians these guys are willing to fight in most situations so they thought look

00:37:23.920 physically we're not going to dominate them but ideologically we can dominate them so what they did

00:37:28.500 was they start taking control of western society britain and america internally taking control of

00:37:34.480 it taking control of the military industrial complex taking control of the media taking control

00:37:39.680 of the governments and you see that america apac is completely appropriated britain friends of labor

00:37:45.040 friends of conservative completely appropriated your two candidates of president biden and trump

00:37:49.780 are controlled our two prime ministers for candidates are starma and rushi sunak they're completely

00:37:54.740 controlled so they've controlled internally and with muslims they just bomb the middle

00:37:58.400 east to the ground so they're completely destroyed so anytime a muslim country kind of gives the

00:38:01.960 semblance of strength like they just bomb them and cause a regime change so this is like psychology

00:38:06.980 they've done in order to ensure in their mind and that's what the epitome of zionism is and that's

00:38:11.340 why i'm against it all right i agree with that position but then how are you able to differentiate

00:38:15.880 um because you see guys like lucas gage on twitter like the good jews and the bad jews like

00:38:20.800 what's what is your differentiate i want to play this too because uh i agree completely like i think um

00:38:26.160 judaism is a good religion regardless like people get it sometimes get upset like it's crazy like

00:38:30.900 the echo chamber you have um and then we should definitely focus on the dionist but what do you

00:38:35.620 think about this think about this i am jewish and proud because jews have always done much right

00:38:42.300 we've led the fight for gay rights our females fought to ban discrimination based on sexual

00:38:47.040 orientation eddie lindser was a leader in the fight for marriage equality miriam bench alone challenged

00:38:52.220 the ban on gay people serving in the military we've helped lead the fight for racial justice our rabbis

00:38:57.320 are bfs with mlk together with black leaders jews helped to establish over 20 hbcus during the

00:39:03.380 civil rights movement jews were disproportionately involved in the protest we've led the fight for

00:39:07.820 women's rights for equal pay and the right to choose and against discrimination in the workplace

00:39:11.700 jews were also among the first on the ground in turkey ukraine and haiti in judaism when it comes

00:39:17.440 to helping others no action is too big or too small the jewish principle of tikkun olam tells us that

00:39:23.340 we have the power to change the world and there are so many ways to do that and this is my eye

00:39:28.260 it's just the eye of the jaw like really right around here she's the all-seeing jaw eye right here

00:39:33.380 so yeah what are your thoughts about that so so everywhere they go they're but look at that gay

00:39:38.080 right it's immediately what are the good what's the good oh gay people in politics this other this gay

00:39:44.220 um racial justice integration like yeah so let's talk about this right because i think she's made

00:39:52.000 some points right so there's going to be first of all the first thing is this when it comes to judaism

00:39:57.400 being an ideology that's there to support the world i agree as is christianity as is islamic the

00:40:02.220 the religions generally speaking propagate these ideals that's what's brilliant about religion and

00:40:06.820 hence why i think like a lot of atheist societies are failed societies because they don't have that

00:40:10.280 godliness they don't have that kind of positive ideals now when it comes to what she said i mean

00:40:16.140 she's right so when i was talking about them destroying the west how do you destroy the west

00:40:20.700 so the way you do it is the destruction of religion how do you destroy religion is doing what

00:40:25.620 she said so they basically propagated feminism in these cultures they propagated lgbtq in these

00:40:31.100 countries cultures and they've propagated a lot of these ideas that have internally destroyed

00:40:36.380 they are very societal so let me give you uk as an example so my grandfather came went to the uk in

00:40:41.020 the 60s right so he's coming from pakistan he's coming to england he's thinking you know what i'm

00:40:45.980 gonna come here i'm gonna rebuild the country because it'd be you know after the war it was

00:40:48.340 kind of destroyed right and he thought what are british values british values were christian

00:40:53.920 values religious values he's like yeah i'm about that like believing in god family structure you

00:40:59.540 know the wife respects the husband having a large family british value seems pretty cool like it sounds

00:41:04.280 it's pretty meshing with islamic values which is why i don't get why there's so many islamophobes

00:41:08.760 like um the tommy dude pop up and they hate islam so what what is that's because of zionism

00:41:13.820 will i'll explain that in a second yeah so then what happened was but now what but what people

00:41:18.340 like tommy okay it's actually relevant let's talk about right now so then what happened was they've

00:41:22.280 destroyed that and they've changed it how did they change it they changed it through their agents such

00:41:25.720 as tommy robinson a lot of these islamophobes because what these islamophobes did was if you

00:41:29.120 look at whenever they attack islam they're not like islam is a harsh although they can't change the

00:41:33.300 narrative now because of like those guys right but before that their attack on islam always was this

00:41:37.900 islam is a crazy religion because it doesn't allow gays islam is a crazy religion because it doesn't

00:41:43.760 now lgbtq so that was their attack on islam so they were promoting those ideas islam is oppressive

00:41:49.120 to women so if you look at luma when she went on fresh and fit what was that i mean because she's

00:41:52.660 not they've not updated her they've not updated the system with that she's like on the previous

00:41:56.600 like update so she said the same arguments right oh oppressive to women um and she said um

00:42:03.940 homosexuality because that's what they've been programmed for so those are the very ideals they

00:42:07.820 were attacking islam about and they convinced the brits islam is evil because those reasons so

00:42:12.600 the brits became like we don't like them we're gonna listen to what you guys are gonna say so

00:42:16.920 zionism end up creating this feminist liberalist lgbtq movement to destroy britain within and now if

00:42:23.940 you look at it britain just 10 years ago just think how quick it's going 70 christian it went from 70

00:42:30.340 to 45 48 christian christian christianity is a minority religion in a country that fought wars for

00:42:36.500 christianity so i went america you guys didn't actually fight wars for christianity these guys fought

00:42:40.480 wars for christianity britain did and their religion is dropped by 30 percent the religion

00:42:44.540 dropped by 30 percent tommy robinson and all these islamophobes make you think that's muslims

00:42:48.540 or taken over in them 10 years islam only went up by one percent so that entire 30 percent went to

00:42:54.100 atheism or like non-religion or various other things so they should be like charles dar what's

00:42:58.780 his name um richard dawkins of phobic rather than islamophobic like these guys who made it he wrote

00:43:03.940 the god illusion he pushed atheism so much okay they should be focusing their energy on that instead of

00:43:08.640 towards people that are praying and covering up the women 100 all these people who were made famous

00:43:13.060 through the intellectual dark web most of them were like godless people right and this was the reason

00:43:17.760 for him so you mentioned dawkins you mentioned um imagine was imagine was literally was a muslim who

00:43:23.420 was like hating muslims and trying to be the most liberal person ever so this was the psychology that

00:43:27.740 they created and a good example is it culminated in you know teaching you know teaching lgbtq in schools

00:43:33.340 now you guys in america are talking about it now but this has already happened to us in 2018

00:43:36.880 so what happened was they wanted to teach lgbtq to kids as young as five now the problem with that is

00:43:42.300 like they're too young their brains haven't developed so why are you going to teach certain

00:43:46.160 ideas to children when their brain hasn't developed properly but they pushed it and again christians

00:43:51.140 didn't stand up because they've destroyed christianity in america jews never stood up what even

00:43:55.000 though it's against their religion i expected them to do so only muslims stood up but then you know

00:44:00.240 what they did they made muslims look like a backward religion oh they're against lgbtq they're against against

00:44:06.160 gays they're against this they're against feminism and so british society has been destroyed by

00:44:10.680 zionist agents to tommy robertson if you look at most of the uh racist movement islamophobic they're

00:44:16.180 all zionists the ones that aren't like now nick griffin as an example i know he hates tanya so

00:44:22.400 obviously you know but separate to that he's now realized that look these guys offered me money to

00:44:27.980 be an islamic woman i said no so these people were offering these kind of uh nationalist movements

00:44:32.940 money to basically break islam so this was this is it was an agenda because in in the america and

00:44:38.460 the uk zionism one of the biggest components of the islamophobia industry is zionism

00:44:43.280 so this is the reason why she said that because that's what so who are these guys getting paid by

00:44:48.780 because none of them the people that like they're they're tagging the fbi at me all day they're

00:44:53.540 constantly trying to slander my name these people like who is funding them to do this because none of

00:44:57.800 their beliefs makes sense it's like we align in so many things except for like theological differences

00:45:02.720 which we shouldn't even really focus on that much if we agree that feminism is destroying the west

00:45:06.900 if we agree that gays should keep their own who do you agree with what do you mean like when you who

00:45:12.500 you're saying we agree with them i mean i'm saying like these the um these islam i don't even want

00:45:17.660 to say their names like these people that are always like no but they don't agree they've been

00:45:20.640 propagating it that's my point so i'm trying to say it but they they say that they're like trump

00:45:24.280 supporters you know they're conservatives they want to keep britain britain they want to keep

00:45:28.080 america america right we agree on so many things politically but they hate me so much because i'm

00:45:32.500 a muslim that they they try to they tag the fbi and yeah the so you know the tag in the fbi so like

00:45:37.640 i don't think i don't agree with anything with them on anything and this is the reason they're okay

00:45:41.380 yeah so tommy robinson and laura looma would never agree to debate me and you because they know they

00:45:45.660 get destroyed because their arguments are not worth anything right because they want the people to

00:45:49.700 think that they're against these ideas that you're saying but in reality that's the first thing look

00:45:53.120 the first thing she talked about was oh lgbtq and feminism the muslims are against these two

00:45:58.980 things it seems so silly to me that you could be a trump supporter and then also be pro-lgbt

00:46:03.220 it is i was in a debate right and there was people from trump's campaign and they were literally like

00:46:07.220 islam the problem and i was like why oh because they're against gays my children are all gay and i'm

00:46:12.280 like how are you pretending you're on the right so this is the problem that we've got now coming back to

00:46:17.900 them uh so we don't agree on anything the reason they tagged you and this is a and it's an important

00:46:22.100 point to talk about they tagged you on the fbi and they try to get me banned as well isn't it

00:46:25.800 and the reason is these same people have been exposed because they claim that they were free

00:46:29.300 speech absolutists right right so if you're free speech absolutist let's talk about it but they

00:46:33.960 don't want to talk they want you banned they want me banned they want people banned because they know

00:46:39.120 that when we debate them they get crushed so because they get crushed they want you to get banned

00:46:42.740 so how are they free speech absolutists and even the college protest has exposed them more than

00:46:46.740 anything the right cried and cried and cried and cried that the left were using censorship they were

00:46:53.340 taking their rights away they were taking free speech away i always said these guys don't care

00:46:58.300 about free speech because actually free speech is actually a more leftist idea right what they're

00:47:02.060 really crying about is the fact that they don't have the power to censor themselves they don't have

00:47:05.580 the power to stop free speech themselves because now as soon as they got the power what did

00:47:09.540 the college students censoring cancel end the protests put in legislation in place these guys

00:47:15.940 are not about trump saying stop the protest everything it's very funny because he's one of

00:47:19.380 the biggest rumble creators right uh trump is one of the figureheads of rumble was he he is currently

00:47:24.440 i didn't know and then he's also saying stop the protest yeah he's one of the biggest uh rumble

00:47:28.340 creators actually i didn't know that yeah it's um like fresh and fit andrew tate donald trump

00:47:33.420 me like those are oh you mean like content creators not actual ownership yeah trump is one of the

00:47:38.460 biggest concert creators on rumble but then he's saying stop the protest it's like protesting is

00:47:43.060 one of the most american things you can do 100 dumping the the tea in the ocean 100 it's funny

00:47:47.880 though how it's you're right though like free speech used to be a leftist idea but it kind of

00:47:51.320 things are shifting faster than ever before where like the ideas that were once left are now right

00:47:56.040 um but now it's now it's proven it's not right right because these guys literally are trying as you

00:48:01.560 said ban the protests trying to censor people change legislation so in reality free speech was a

00:48:06.720 leftist idea but then what happened was when the walk movement started taking over the left

00:48:10.480 they gave they basically made them give up that idea and that's why i say pretty nazi of them

00:48:15.180 to try to burn ideas and burn books yeah yeah it is because well it's appropriation isn't it there's

00:48:20.220 an appropriation of an ideology where an ideology is pro free speech you basically take control of it

00:48:24.540 and then you make anti-free speech what's one message you would give to elon musk right you're one of

00:48:30.080 the biggest accounts on x you're getting a lot of traction right now what's one thing that you would

00:48:33.760 say to him i would say to elon musk stop being azayo first of all right but the real quick point

00:48:38.760 would be like have ultimate free speech and what that means is i mean he's brought nick fuentes back

00:48:42.860 but also make sure that the algorithms are fair the algorithms are equal and everybody has an equal

00:48:48.260 opportunity so even though like okay on twitter i am like the most viral political account on twitter

00:48:52.540 right but if you look at my engagement but that's based on my engagement so that means like more

00:48:56.580 people like retweet and share my and comment on my post than anybody else on twitter when it comes to

00:49:00.800 politics but you know my views are not as high as zayo comes so what's happened is something in the

00:49:07.420 algorithm is saying that when it comes to and but it's not just my views it's not about me it's just

00:49:11.840 the palestine content so what happens is something algorithm saying that look don't propagate this idea

00:49:18.060 to too many people propagate it but don't propagate it to too many people whereas azayo won't have that

00:49:21.900 much engagement but then the idea gets propagated loads so i would say balance the algorithm but other

00:49:26.500 than that elon musk is doing a big job good job like nick fuentes is a very good uh one that he

00:49:30.600 brought back um and obviously elon musk has his own ideas i think personally i would i would say to

00:49:36.340 you know actually what i would say i'm glad you said this what i'd say to elon musk is stop

00:49:39.640 interacting with just solely zayo accounts start interacting with non-zayos and let's see if you

00:49:46.240 really are willing to have a conversation but then x is gonna it's gonna fall apart because it's not

00:49:50.800 gonna make any money so like for example now she needs to do that to make money and get the

00:49:55.560 advertiser support so that's fine but if he's free speech himself then my point is this that he should

00:50:02.620 be willing to have a conversation with you have a conversation with me and not just zionist accounts

00:50:06.780 like his sole interaction is solely zionist accounts he either only replies to them or he

00:50:11.560 basically only does interviews with them so basically stop talking to ian miles charno

00:50:15.800 now carry on talking to them but talk to the other side as well and see like maybe your ideas are wrong

00:50:19.620 like let's have a conversation let's have an interview and see if your ideas are that strong

00:50:22.900 or not because the point is like and we're not the type of people who are going to get a gotcha

00:50:27.020 moment from elon musk right but at the same time we're probably going to say like elon musk like

00:50:31.060 you're boosting your band from the river to this we know why i mean he went he had to go with ben

00:50:36.420 shapiro put on the hat and go to auschwitz right after he banned the adl like isn't it very clear why he

00:50:41.600 has to do this stuff exactly it is clear but that's my point so that would be my request that look he is the

00:50:46.020 richest man but what does that prove anyway so what what that shows that elon musk is

00:50:49.540 the guy is the richest man on the planet and you saw and the most powerful man so and he's still in

00:50:53.980 control so like true freedom where does it come from it's obviously not money and wealth where does

00:50:58.060 it come from then theology it comes from faith in god faith in god 100 i agree 100 faith in god

00:51:04.260 because if you really have true faith in god you don't fear isn't it so i really like let's say now

00:51:10.280 you were afraid that you're going to lose your rumble page or whatever right and you were like i ain't

00:51:14.320 going to say x or y then you don't have complete autonomy of your mind and you don't have you do

00:51:19.640 you have a bit of fear right so i'd say a person who's willing to lose everything is the real person

00:51:24.940 who has got the autonomy he's a real man malcolm x said i'm a man who believes that he died 20 years

00:51:29.820 ago i have no fear whatsoever i only fear all i died 20 years ago nobody here can put any fear

00:51:35.340 into my heart 100 if you live your life like that i would say that is the real like as you know

00:51:40.180 we said g right that's the real g walking as a dead man yeah because you don't have no fear

00:51:44.540 and that's a real man because as soon as you fear someone controls your mind you're basically a slave

00:51:49.340 you're just your minds in slavery is that why you like uh you've been defending andrew tate

00:51:53.860 i defend andrew tate yeah because the reason i defend andrew tate is i think he's just brilliant

00:51:59.420 right and i'll explain why and it's not like i'm some fanboy yeah like i respect him a lot right

00:52:03.640 and i'll explain the reason for it a good example is when he converted to islam

00:52:07.920 my biggest fear was that he was gonna fall into like one sect right what you know some sect he's

00:52:13.040 gonna become sectarian he's gonna become marhali salafi yeah yeah whatever yeah whichever whichever

00:52:18.160 and what because if for me all of these things are matrices they're there to control you right

00:52:23.900 your mind is free right your mind god keeps saying in the quran like use your intellect use your mind

00:52:28.880 but if you're gonna give your intellect to somebody else and say you make all the decisions for me

00:52:32.960 you tell me what's right and wrong you tell me what i'm allowed to do what i'm allowed to do

00:52:36.040 you no longer have autonomy of your mind you're a bot you know you're a bot so it's like the what

00:52:40.540 he calls the matrix right and so what i respect about him is he's not fell into the matrix he's

00:52:44.960 not fell into one kind of idea or thought and that was my biggest fear for him i'll be honest that was

00:52:48.680 my fear for you as well and you've not done that either so coming back to it let's go so coming back

00:52:53.120 to the point so that's why i respect him and the reason they fear andrew tate is because he affects the

00:52:58.680 mind of the youth significantly and that's probably why they fear you as well because when i was in dubai

00:53:03.100 even a year ago um loads of people will mention your name loads of kids right so shout out to those

00:53:09.340 kids let's go yeah yeah so in uae i think you're quite you're like i mean i'm sure i'm sure you're

00:53:13.340 everywhere but uae significantly it was like massively disproportionate and and so they fear you guys right

00:53:19.400 because if you can affect the minds and hearts of the youth now they no longer have control of it

00:53:25.260 because they control it through the education system they control it through the media they control it through

00:53:29.080 hollywood so when andrew tate is telling them to actually have respect god have defined gender

00:53:33.520 roles have your own ideas they fear it and so as an example you saw this bill they saw the students

00:53:41.020 protesting they feared the protest of the students and they've put law in place to ban the bible

00:53:48.380 right you're not allowed to say that jews killed jesus that's literally like i posted today was like 10

00:53:53.300 15 20 passages of the bible so they need a new edited zionist version of the bible like an updated

00:53:57.680 version yeah um well christians really need to have some unity right now because that's bad

00:54:01.860 like they're making it hate speech to say something that's in the bible that's crazy that's insanity

00:54:07.840 it's in the new testament as well so it's not even in the old testament it could be like we're a

00:54:12.480 christian country apparently i don't think america is a christian but yeah i mean that's debatable but i

00:54:17.200 mean there's a lot of christians that's a swear the president swears in on the bible yeah they're

00:54:21.060 saying the house now which bible are they going to swear in on them now is it going to be is it going to be

00:54:26.340 the new updated zionist version without the without the certain the ben shapiro bible the

00:54:31.220 the daily wire bible that's going to be the bible coming to you soon but i'll guarantee you very

00:54:37.460 shimiro i wouldn't be surprised if you start selling it the daily bible the i love it the daily

00:54:43.460 bible no but yeah this but the protest but if you look at the laws they put in place not just that

00:54:48.840 you're not allowed to say that someone had jeweler allegiance you're not allowed to say that someone's

00:54:52.320 put in israel first that's crazy and they've done it because of the students well hopefully it doesn't

00:54:56.880 go all the way i mean it's just the house right now doesn't have to go through the senate and go

00:54:59.880 through the senate one if it's gone through the houses and go through the senate generally speaking

00:55:03.300 what's the final one the senate is there another one or is it no no that's it and then the president

00:55:06.020 just signs it up so the issue it's crazy it's crazy wait so can you can christian still say christ is

00:55:12.780 king um i think christ is king isn't in there but then i guess it would be because if you're saying it

00:55:18.480 and they believe that you're being anti it's like half my twitter i can't say i can't tweet half the

00:55:21.900 stuff i've been tweeting yeah you've been tweeting united states of israel that's over i can't say

00:55:25.180 that anymore you can't say that anymore so and it's gonna pass right it's gonna pass and so and so

00:55:32.140 this is the reason they're afraid of the students they're afraid of the minds of the students and

00:55:36.100 that's why it comes in because you can basically if you can't control the minds this is why they're

00:55:39.640 losing their minds so now they want to re-control the students so these students they're like you know

00:55:42.820 what we can no longer control them but the next students through university they're going to go through a

00:55:46.000 process that we want to control them in so it's like highly highly problematic what they're doing

00:55:50.200 it's significantly because it means free speech in america is that i was literally talking about a

00:55:54.420 week ago i was like i don't mind moving to the united states and then when i heard this i was like

00:55:58.700 you guys are not gonna even have free speech let me go back yeah yeah i might move to the uae or

00:56:02.320 something like that i mean i mean look i don't respect those countries as well i'll be honest with you

00:56:06.020 obviously you shouldn't say if you're gonna go there but from my perspective right like this is why i've

00:56:11.260 always respected britain and america because of its multicultural aspects and the fact that

00:56:16.840 they respect all societies i don't believe in ethno states and i don't respect any nation that

00:56:20.660 disrespects people from different races or treats them worse yeah i still like it over there i see

00:56:28.680 i see what you're saying i still like it over there um i want to okay one more what's one message you

00:56:34.540 would give to the atheists the hedonists the people like um the blue hair people well what the message

00:56:40.000 i would give is that look with atheism the problem is this first of all let's put the logical aspect

00:56:46.280 right because obviously you can prove the existence of god and that's a separate point but just from

00:56:49.540 their own societal perspective right when you look at atheism in itself which society has it been

00:56:54.600 successful in so if you look at most of these atheist nations they are failed nations right

00:56:58.720 they're falling in all aspects their suicide rate is extremely high so what's the reason for that

00:57:04.540 why do you think in atheist nations suicide rate is so high because they have no purpose exactly

00:57:08.920 they don't have no purpose they don't think anything they don't think there's no morality

00:57:12.740 there's no basis of anything exactly and so for that reason they think you know what no what's

00:57:17.240 life and they'll tell themselves whereas somebody who's a who's a who believes in god and struggling

00:57:21.500 their faith and god will put them through and they'll know no matter what i try in this world

00:57:25.660 i'm going to try my best because i'm going to be successful in this world as well as the hereafter so

00:57:30.140 there's this kind of uh this aspect within life that's important the second thing is

00:57:34.720 atheism breeds as you said a lot of this leftist ideologies or racism and these type of things

00:57:40.300 and what that does is again destroy the family structure so you saw for example um you know like

00:57:44.960 for example you look at these atheistic nations like um japan or korea or whatever which would they

00:57:49.940 have a huge atheistic population declining birth rate declining birth rate but then they complain they

00:57:54.620 say oh but their birth rate's declining but so is yours but our birth rate is still declining but

00:58:00.000 it's like four times better than yours so it clearly can't because of modernity so what's making

00:58:04.520 so what what's making korean or japanese chicks not want to have sex with guys extreme feminism right

00:58:11.360 or extreme atheism or whatever it may be modernity so it can't just be because of modernity because

00:58:15.860 the birth rate is so different three four times more so uh i say with atheists you need to have some

00:58:22.460 structure morality in life i do i i'm not i'm a big believer that morality obviously is within the

00:58:27.720 fabric of the universe but the morality comes and it's been created within the universe from the

00:58:32.160 universe from god where can we follow you twitter so twitter is the main place why don't you stream

00:58:37.540 on rumble you're a good yapper i'm gonna start i'm gonna start so what happened was i was um

00:58:41.940 well i don't want to put rumble down right but i had some issues with it before but now i'm gonna

00:58:45.380 what were the issues with rumble right it's a free speech platform chris is going to be really

00:58:48.020 receptive to your criticism uh so i told chris about this right so basically you know chris

00:58:51.720 yeah yeah i messaged him a few times oh okay yeah yeah shout out to chris man yeah yeah he's

00:58:55.880 watching yeah so um so i mean might be misunderstanding right but anyway i when i came out to rumble he

00:59:01.500 said come exclusively to rumble and i thought we had an agreement but i believe we had an agreement

00:59:06.080 that would be on the future page certain amount of times and that didn't happen and i was like

00:59:09.520 what's going on here so i was basically solely bringing my entire twitter audience to rumble and i

00:59:15.840 wasn't getting visibility in rumble so i was just getting annoyed so after a few weeks i was like

00:59:19.200 this is annoying like why would i why would i take my 1 000 twitter space people here when i'm not

00:59:25.800 getting visibility so it was more about visibility issue but i think since then he's improved their

00:59:29.300 where he's put it based on number count now so if you go to the news section now it's ranking

00:59:33.600 based rumble's destroying the competition where so how big is it though compared to i think there's 60

00:59:38.700 million users most of them are in the u.s it's very america focused i get for example i was in

00:59:42.620 saudi arabia streaming and then people who were stream slamming were like watching my stream

00:59:46.400 through somebody on facetime because uh it's blocked it's blocked in egypt it's blocked in a

00:59:50.420 lot of countries it's mostly u.s it is pretty big in the uk you guys could say where you guys are

00:59:54.400 watching from so so how many users are there in youtube youtube is billion from the united states

01:00:00.080 oh it's not even like yeah youtube is like two billion i think okay and do you think do you think

01:00:04.800 rumble is gonna have a competition because my other point of what i was thinking was because i'm like

01:00:09.600 quite huge on twitter and when elon musk and he's saying he's gonna do it maybe he's bringing

01:00:14.100 x tv and then he's gonna start making twitter into what rumble is do you think that's gonna

01:00:19.280 be competition now yeah he's gonna try to get there but rumble is just so we're gonna dominate

01:00:23.400 you know we're gonna is it elon musk we're looking forward to seeing the competition you know it's

01:00:27.540 good to have free speech competition that's how you get mcdonald's and burger king competing but

01:00:31.320 you know rumble's where it's at and you're very welcome over here yeah yeah i'll try i'll try

01:00:36.020 i'll get some tips off you guys but yeah i know tate's on here i know glenn greenwald's on here and

01:00:40.460 obviously those guys are like brilliant you're on here you're brilliant so yeah i've got there's

01:00:43.720 some really good voices on rumble for sure is that a palestinian flag right here no i don't know

01:00:48.260 i think it's just random it kind of looks like one it looks like oh no it's not okay it might be

01:00:51.800 italian oops it's not but uh yeah thank you so much for coming on i really appreciate you having

01:00:56.400 me thank you so much for having me it's very nice to meet you good luck on the debate tomorrow

01:00:59.260 i mean it's gonna be really good at uh pushing this conversation forward uh we appreciate the work

01:01:02.860 you're doing definitely and look i appreciate all the effort that you're putting in and

01:01:05.600 obviously i've met you in real life as well i was like whoa this guy's a nice guy

01:01:08.560 i was expecting something totally different what were you expecting i was expecting like uh

01:01:13.360 some like arrogant thinks he's better than everyone else harsh guy and then i found you and you were

01:01:19.620 like totally opposite you were like a really nice chill guy what i put out that energy what does this

01:01:24.940 chat thing do you think what when they're gonna spam ego co what do you think like if you were gonna

01:01:30.060 meet sneaker for the first time would you be thinking this is a humble chilled nice guy or would

01:01:35.180 you be thinking this guy's arrogant thinks he's better than everybody else like what do you think

01:01:38.620 they're saying ego co i told you

01:01:39.980 what does ego co mean it means that i'm uh instead of sneaker ego oh all right

01:01:46.240 shut up chat um yeah thanks so much for coming on i hope to see you soon you're having me thanks so

01:01:51.720 much are you in how long are you in miami well i was meant to be here only till saturday but i might

01:01:55.420 be having to extend for a few reasons love to uh to see you again uh and have another conversation

01:01:59.800 definitely definitely it was uh it was my honor to be on here appreciate it do you want to water

01:02:02.840 something i can i'll walk you out yeah no no i'm good i'm good thanks all right

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SNEAKO - May 04, 2024

SNEAKO Interviews Sulaiman Ahmed

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