SNEAKO - September 28, 2024


SNEAKO & Konvy Debate Adin Ross & Fousey

Topics
depression debate depression argument depression colonization
Hosted by
Nicolas Kenn De Balinthazy
Mentioned
Michael Jordan LeBron James Bill Russell Carl Malone Paul Steph Curry Leon Shawn Livingston Neil Armstrong Travis Scott Ronaldo Fousey Nigga Chad Shaquille O'Neal Lance Armstrong Greg Popovich Clay Thompson Magic Johnson John Stockton and 14 more
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Length

33 minutes

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8,276

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Misogyny

26

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Toxicity

223

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Hate speech

48

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Summary

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In this episode, we discuss the earth being flat and if it is or isn t. We also discuss if the earth is round or not. We have a special guest on the show this week and he's a Christian.

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00:00:00 Three minutes of topic.
00:00:04 Leon's got it, and then you guys are gonna go to the sides.
00:00:09 Three minutes of topic.
00:00:09 You guys get to talk really quick, our teams.
00:00:12 And then you guys come back as a unit, and you guys.
00:00:14 For this first one, I think I already know.
00:00:17 Leon will tell you, I'm not part of the game.
00:00:18 First topic is the Earth flag.
00:00:21 Okay, do you believe it is?
00:00:22 Of course, Earth flag.
00:00:23 I don't think it is.
00:00:24 Okay, now we break the clock.
00:00:25 Okay, now you guys can't talk.
00:00:27 Now you guys go break the clock.
00:00:29 Are we talking on stream?
00:00:30 No, but guess what he's saying.
00:00:31 No, right here.
00:00:32 Do you think it's flat?
00:00:33 Just turn, turn.
00:00:34 Turn!
00:00:35 Discuss what you have.
00:00:36 It doesn't matter.
00:00:37 You're gonna have to agree with him.
00:00:38 It's not flat. 1.00
00:00:39 Are you fucking dumb? 1.00
00:00:40 You're a Christian, aren't you? 1.00
00:00:41 Yes.
00:00:42 Do you know the first page of Genesis?
00:00:43 No.
00:00:44 Have you read the Bible?
00:00:46 Some of it.
00:00:47 The first page talks about the Thurman.
00:00:49 Who is that?
00:00:50 You got my son.
00:00:51 Trust me.
00:00:52 I have points.
00:00:53 Let's go ahead.
00:00:54 That's enough time.
00:00:55 They're cheating.
00:00:56 They're Googling.
00:00:57 They're Googling.
00:00:58 All right.
00:00:59 Go.
00:01:00 Okay, three minutes.
00:01:01 Three minutes on the clock.
00:01:02 Hey Tom, put three minutes on the clock.
00:01:03 Eat up, yeah.
00:01:04 Three minutes on the clock.
00:01:05 Who starts, Leon?
00:01:06 Okay, of course the earth is flat.
00:01:07 Have you ever seen it round?
00:01:08 Yes, I have.
00:01:09 Where?
00:01:10 In pictures of satellite images.
00:01:12 Have you ever seen it with your own eyes?
00:01:13 Already cooked.
00:01:14 Can I speak?
00:01:15 I've never been to space.
00:01:16 Can I speak, please?
00:01:17 I can cook right now.
00:01:18 I don't know if it does. 1.00
00:01:19 Shit, you're lucky. 1.00
00:01:20 Does the Quran say the earth is flat around? 1.00
00:01:22 It says it's spread thin like a carpet.
00:01:24 Mmm.
00:01:25 I didn't cook him.
00:01:26 Hold, hold, hold, hold, hold.
00:01:27 I'm allowed to speak.
00:01:28 I'm going to do the right way.
00:01:29 After, okay, let me respond to his question.
00:01:30 Okay.
00:01:31 The first line of questioning was have you ever seen it round?
00:01:32 He answered no.
00:01:33 He has not seen it ever.
00:01:34 I've never been to the moon.
00:01:35 Okay, but with your own eyes.
00:01:36 I've seen pictures.
00:01:37 Okay.
00:01:38 It could be edited.
00:01:39 With your own eyes.
00:01:40 Have you seen God?
00:01:41 Of course not.
00:01:42 How do you know he's real?
00:01:43 Bam! 0.98
00:01:44 Cook! 0.98
00:01:45 Doesn't matter if I didn't see it.
00:01:46 You know that it's real.
00:01:47 That's a cook. 1.00
00:01:48 You know that's a cook. 1.00
00:01:49 There's evidence that God, because everything must be created by God, right?
00:01:51 What is the evidence of third this round?
00:01:53 If I may speak, please.
00:01:54 So, science is science.
00:01:56 Do you believe in science?
00:01:57 Uh, no.
00:01:58 A lot of time, no.
00:01:59 We said trust the science during COVID and they lied about that.
00:02:00 They told everyone to get vaccinated.
00:02:01 I understand, but that's different.
00:02:02 That's a test, right?
00:02:03 You and I spoke about COVID being a test.
00:02:05 I want to ask you a question.
00:02:06 Do you believe in science?
00:02:07 No.
00:02:08 Why?
00:02:09 Science is the art of questioning.
00:02:10 You're supposed to question science.
00:02:11 You can't just believe it.
00:02:12 But what's proven?
00:02:13 Not a theory.
00:02:14 Do you believe in science?
00:02:15 It's never been proven.
00:02:16 Can I just ask you a question?
00:02:17 Okay.
00:02:18 Why is it that the time, there's like a, there's parts in the year where we set a clock back
00:02:22 an hour and we set a clock forward.
00:02:23 Do you know why?
00:02:24 What does that have to do?
00:02:25 Okay.
00:02:26 Because when the earth is at a certain rotation, when the earth rotates, you know, because
00:02:29 that's what it does.
00:02:30 It's a sphere.
00:02:31 It's not a flat.
00:02:32 It doesn't spin like this.
00:02:33 It rotates like this.
00:02:34 So, that's why we set hours back and we go an hour clock back and we go an hour forward
00:02:38 because the sun, it takes forever to come up.
00:02:39 It takes forever to go down.
00:02:40 No, no, no.
00:02:41 He's taking it.
00:02:42 Why?
00:02:43 No. 0.99
00:02:44 Nigga, the sun go around the earth, nigga. 1.00
00:02:45 Yeah. 0.74
00:02:46 That's a good point.
00:02:47 Wait.
00:02:48 Okay.
00:02:49 Don't give me that smart.
00:02:50 The sun go around the earth.
00:02:51 Wait.
00:02:52 Wait.
00:02:53 What did you say?
00:02:54 What did you say?
00:02:55 Go around.
00:02:56 Go around.
00:02:57 Yo.
00:02:58 Go around.
00:02:59 That's a good point.
00:03:00 If it's flat, what does it do?
00:03:01 Go to the left and go to the right.
00:03:02 No, it doesn't.
00:03:03 It goes around.
00:03:04 You just lost your own argument.
00:03:06 We won.
00:03:07 Call it.
00:03:08 Hold on.
00:03:09 Answer the clock.
00:03:10 Go in the chat.
00:03:11 You're going around in circles?
00:03:12 The next one will be out at all times.
00:03:13 It will never set.
00:03:14 This is flat right here.
00:03:15 It's set since it goes to the other side of the earth.
00:03:18 Yo, we won.
00:03:19 Call it. 1.00
00:03:20 Anyone under is shit, bro. 1.00
00:03:21 So can you answer the question about the clocks? 1.00
00:03:23 I want to go back to the clock.
00:03:24 No, no, no.
00:03:25 Answer my- I just said something.
00:03:26 Answer me.
00:03:27 I want to respond to Fousey from the beginning.
00:03:28 Answer me.
00:03:29 If you want to have a debate, yelling is not gonna-
00:03:30 whoever yells-
00:03:31 Okay, okay.
00:03:32 I'm sorry.
00:03:33 Answer me.
00:03:34 I'll listen.
00:03:35 Let me answer Fousey and then I'll get to you. 0.99
00:03:36 Go.
00:03:37 You said you told me I have not seen it, right?
00:03:38 You've seen pictures of it.
00:03:39 The pictures are made by NASA.
00:03:40 Do you know what NASA means in Hebrew?
00:03:41 I'm listening.
00:03:42 NASA means Hebrew.
00:03:43 It means deception in Hebrew.
00:03:44 Lie.
00:03:45 They talk about SpaceX.
00:03:46 That means it's crossed out.
00:03:47 There's no evidence of it.
00:03:48 All we see is fisheye pictures from outer space.
00:03:49 We're trying to separate us from God.
00:03:51 To make a statement.
00:03:52 It's all infinite.
00:03:53 That's the timer.
00:03:54 You need to answer my question.
00:03:55 That's the timer.
00:03:56 That's the timer.
00:03:57 Final point.
00:03:58 My question needs to be answered.
00:03:59 Okay, bro.
00:04:00 About the clocks being an hour ahead and the hour before.
00:04:04 It means when the earth is-
00:04:05 Certain parts of the years?
00:04:06 Sorry.
00:04:07 When certain part in the year, there's a couple times throughout the year where you set a
00:04:09 clock back, you set a clock forward.
00:04:10 It's because the sun takes for longer to come up and it's not the longer.
00:04:13 It's just the fact that the earth is rotating.
00:04:15 Do you understand?
00:04:16 If it was flat, it would be turning.
00:04:17 It's rotating.
00:04:18 It's a sphere.
00:04:19 Are you talking about time zones?
00:04:20 I'm asking you a question.
00:04:21 Why do we push an hour up?
00:04:23 We do that for farms. 0.87
00:04:24 We do that for different parts of the world.
00:04:25 It's nothing to do with the-
00:04:26 Why in the summer does it, it takes later for it to get, sorry, later for it to get darker?
00:04:31 In the summertime, why does it take later for it to get darker?
00:04:34 Because the sun, it doesn't go across, it doesn't rotate around the same all the time.
00:04:38 So how come throughout the year that changes?
00:04:40 Because it's going in different parts of the earth.
00:04:41 Yeah.
00:04:42 It's a sphere.
00:04:43 It's rotating.
00:04:44 If it was flat, it would just be turning, correct?
00:04:45 Mm-hmm.
00:04:46 That makes no sense.
00:04:47 So it's here.
00:04:48 Sometimes the sun's over there.
00:04:49 Sometimes it's over here.
00:04:50 So the sun's rotating.
00:04:51 The sun goes around the earth, yes.
00:04:52 No.
00:04:53 I'm asking you a question.
00:04:54 Why is it that when the clocks go back an hour and they go forward-
00:04:57 That's because daylight savings.
00:04:58 That has nothing to do with the sun.
00:04:59 So daylight savings-
00:05:00 We manually do that.
00:05:01 Daylight savings does not exist and that's only been around-
00:05:03 So why?
00:05:04 So why?
00:05:05 Okay, if we just kept the same time period throughout the entire year, it would get dark earlier
00:05:08 and it would get lighter later.
00:05:10 You're saying it's flat.
00:05:11 What's beneath the earth then?
00:05:12 Beneath the earth is, there's nothing.
00:05:14 Okay, but where does the sun and the moon go?
00:05:16 Where do they go when they go hiding that we don't see them?
00:05:18 It goes back and forth.
00:05:19 It's different parts of the earth.
00:05:20 It's different parts of the earth.
00:05:21 This way, left and right.
00:05:22 It goes like in a line back and a line forward.
00:05:24 It goes like this.
00:05:25 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
00:05:26 Oh, so you made your own flight plan as to how it goes and everything.
00:05:29 There's not a flight plan.
00:05:30 Actually, there is zero scientific evidence behind any argument that you're making right now.
00:05:35 It is 100% an opinion.
00:05:37 100%.
00:05:38 Especially saying it goes like this.
00:05:40 If you're going to bring a flight pad as most pilots agree that the earth is flat.
00:05:43 They've never seen around.
00:05:44 There's no picture.
00:05:45 I gotta call it.
00:05:46 He called it.
00:05:47 He's the moderator.
00:05:48 He called it, called it. 1.00
00:05:49 Fousey kicked your ass on that one. 1.00
00:05:50 On that one? 1.00
00:05:51 There's no pilot that's ever said the earth is flat.
00:05:53 One, that's not really a thing.
00:05:55 That's some nonsense that you heard on the internet.
00:05:59 Stop.
00:06:00 If you ask any pilot.
00:06:01 There's no celestial body that bounces back and forth.
00:06:04 That's not a thing.
00:06:05 Fousey didn't buy anything.
00:06:06 No, no.
00:06:07 The point of it is, it's supposed to be logic.
00:06:10 Nothing you said was logic.
00:06:11 You guys need to keep going.
00:06:12 Wait, next topic?
00:06:13 Next topic.
00:06:14 Let the chat decide who wins.
00:06:17 No, I don't even think the earth is flat.
00:06:18 I'm just arguing for this.
00:06:19 Yeah, we're just-
00:06:20 Exactly.
00:06:21 Look, look, look, look, look, look, look.
00:06:23 Okay, we won.
00:06:24 Ah, ah, ah.
00:06:25 Moon landing.
00:06:26 Oh, yeah.
00:06:27 Real or fake?
00:06:28 Okay.
00:06:29 Well.
00:06:30 Well, we have to see if we have differing opinions.
00:06:32 I believe it was fake.
00:06:33 Aiden gets fake.
00:06:35 Okay.
00:06:36 Okay.
00:06:37 Okay.
00:06:38 Sunnico gets real.
00:06:39 All right.
00:06:40 What do you think is real?
00:06:41 It doesn't matter.
00:06:42 It doesn't matter anything.
00:06:43 It doesn't matter.
00:06:44 All right.
00:06:45 So, I'll explain why it's fake.
00:06:46 I don't think we need to talk it over.
00:06:47 So, why haven't we done it recently?
00:06:49 Why has nobody went-
00:06:50 We have the best technology we've had, you know, ever.
00:06:52 You know, and I agree that-
00:06:54 I think that the government has technology that-
00:06:56 Like, for example, we have the iPhone.
00:06:57 The iPhone was really made public in the 90s.
00:06:58 It just wasn't to the public because, obviously, technology doesn't get, you know, distributed to the public until it's been tested.
00:07:04 That's not an argument.
00:07:05 Saying that we haven't gone back does not mean that we'll never win.
00:07:07 But why are we not going anymore?
00:07:09 We have bigger ambitions now.
00:07:10 Elon Musk wants to go to Mars.
00:07:11 We're investing the money into different projects.
00:07:13 We've already went to the moon.
00:07:14 Why risk people's lives to go there again to prove it, to film it already when we already went there?
00:07:17 The flag is there.
00:07:18 We've proven it.
00:07:19 You want to go and risk it.
00:07:20 Why do we have to do it?
00:07:21 Where's the flag?
00:07:22 Where's the flag?
00:07:23 It's there?
00:07:24 It's on the moon.
00:07:25 Where?
00:07:26 How do you see it?
00:07:27 I was looking at a telescope and see the moon.
00:07:29 Look at the Hubble telescope.
00:07:30 You can zoom in.
00:07:31 You can see the flag.
00:07:32 Since then, it's probably evaporated, but there's been pictures of it.
00:07:34 You know AI with the way it is right now.
00:07:36 I bet there was an AI in 1960s when it was created.
00:07:38 But you don't know that.
00:07:39 If AI today is the way it is, you don't think that they've had AI for 20, 30 years?
00:07:42 Okay.
00:07:43 Also, 1960s was way more than 20, 30 years ago.
00:07:45 Yo, what are your arguments as to if we went then, why would we go now?
00:07:48 If we have iPhone 1, why continue to make iPhone 16?
00:07:51 Because technology gets better.
00:07:52 What year did we go to the moon?
00:07:54 We went to the moon in 1969. 0.98
00:07:59 What the fuck technology did we have in 1969? 1.00
00:08:02 What the fuck? 1.00
00:08:03 We don't know shit about the moon. 1.00
00:08:04 You're making an argument for me. 0.95
00:08:05 If we want to get better and better, go to different planets.
00:08:07 He said it's real.
00:08:08 Go to more planets.
00:08:09 He said it's real.
00:08:10 I'm saying it's fake.
00:08:11 It's real.
00:08:12 If we went back then, why aren't we going now with better technology?
00:08:14 You just described.
00:08:15 If iPhone 1 goes to iPhone 16, we got to get better and better and better.
00:08:18 Go to different planets.
00:08:19 1969 to 2024?
00:08:21 You're telling me I'm going to listen?
00:08:23 That guy's dead.
00:08:24 Guy who, Lance Armstrong, what's his name?
00:08:26 The guy, the astronaut who went to the moon?
00:08:28 Neil Armstrong.
00:08:29 Neil Armstrong?
00:08:30 He's dead.
00:08:31 What do you think? 1.00
00:08:33 Shit. 1.00
00:08:34 I think it's... 1.00
00:08:35 What the fuck are you doing? 1.00
00:08:36 It's real. 1.00
00:08:37 Of course it's real.
00:08:38 Tell me why it's real comedy. 0.99
00:08:39 Nigga, I don't think it's real, nigga. 1.00
00:08:42 Well... 0.68
00:08:43 We swayed him.
00:08:44 I don't think it's real.
00:08:45 We won.
00:08:46 We won.
00:08:47 We won.
00:08:48 We won.
00:08:49 He's supposed to argue for the sake of argument.
00:08:50 Ha! 0.89
00:08:51 That's too long.
00:08:52 Paul.
00:08:53 Paul.
00:08:54 We won.
00:08:55 We won, bro.
00:08:56 I don't even got to say too much. 0.96
00:08:57 We won, nigga. 1.00
00:08:58 We won, won. 0.96
00:08:59 Can we go LeBron versus Jordan?
00:09:00 We got LeBron.
00:09:01 Oh, yes.
00:09:02 Let's do that.
00:09:03 I got Michael Jordan.
00:09:04 You trust me.
00:09:05 I got Michael Jordan.
00:09:06 You're going to have to cut.
00:09:07 I will.
00:09:08 Michael Jordan.
00:09:09 All right, guys.
00:09:10 Please don't base it off.
00:09:11 I believe that LeBron James is the greatest basketball player to ever leave.
00:09:13 Why?
00:09:14 Because he's the most dominant player ever.
00:09:16 Aside from Shaq, Shaquille O'Neal was obviously the most dominant.
00:09:18 But aside from Shaq, all-around player dominance, LeBron James.
00:09:21 He's the best at everything.
00:09:22 So why do you only have four rings in 20 seasons?
00:09:24 So if you want to base it off rings...
00:09:25 No, no.
00:09:26 If you want to base it off rings, I understand because you guys are older.
00:09:29 You're not going to believe me.
00:09:30 Michael Jordan got first-rounded before.
00:09:32 When Michael Jordan left to go play baseball, his team was still the number one seed
00:09:35 with 60-something wins.
00:09:36 He had a better team than LeBron.
00:09:37 He's always had a better team than LeBron.
00:09:39 Right.
00:09:40 LeBron never...
00:09:41 Michael Jordan never went against the 73-9 Warriors.
00:09:43 The greatest...
00:09:44 Hold on.
00:09:45 The greatest modern-day team of all time.
00:09:47 The 73-9 Warriors would have busted the 82-10 Chicago Bulls as...
00:09:50 With K.E.
00:09:51 Yes, they would have.
00:09:52 Hey, hey.
00:09:53 The 73-9 Warriors with Kevin Durant would have beat any team ever.
00:09:56 Let me ask you a question.
00:09:57 That's a fact.
00:09:58 Between LeBron and Jordan, who went to a Diddy party?
00:10:00 My goal never went to a Diddy party. 1.00
00:10:03 Michael Jordan's done a bunch of demonic shit. 0.99
00:10:05 Jordan has never went to a Diddy party. 0.99
00:10:06 He's not demonic.
00:10:07 Why is every...
00:10:08 Yes.
00:10:09 Michael Jordan's...
00:10:10 Michael Jordan got six rings in 13 seasons.
00:10:12 Hey, keep cooking.
00:10:13 Keep going.
00:10:14 He got six rings in 13 seasons.
00:10:15 And he never went to a Diddy party.
00:10:16 Hold on.
00:10:17 How many MVPs do you got?
00:10:18 How many MVPs do you got?
00:10:19 That's Michael.
00:10:20 If you want to base...
00:10:21 We got more MVPs than LeBron.
00:10:22 If you want to base...
00:10:23 More MVPs than LeBron.
00:10:24 More more rings.
00:10:25 If you want to base off of awards and stuff.
00:10:26 Better records.
00:10:27 If you want to base...
00:10:28 I just told you why, the teams.
00:10:29 If you want to base off of rings, then Bill Russell's the greatest player.
00:10:31 Now rings.
00:10:32 You just said Shannon.
00:10:33 You just said rings.
00:10:34 Legacy.
00:10:35 Legacy is more important, right?
00:10:36 I'm not saying that.
00:10:37 Is Legacy more important than rings?
00:10:38 I'm not saying that.
00:10:39 Who's on the NBA logo?
00:10:40 Obviously, that's not even Michael Jordan.
00:10:41 Do you know who's on the NBA logo?
00:10:42 Who's on the NBA logo?
00:10:43 It's Jerry West.
00:10:44 If Michael Jordan played 24 seasons, he would have had 10 rings by now.
00:10:46 Okay, so why didn't...
00:10:47 That's not true. 0.99
00:10:48 He didn't give a fuck. 0.99
00:10:49 He proved everything he had to do. 0.98
00:10:50 That's not true. 0.98
00:10:51 Two triples, nigga. 1.00
00:10:52 LeBron's not doing it. 0.89
00:10:53 That's not true, though.
00:10:54 LeBron's not doing it.
00:10:55 Yes or no?
00:10:56 They have a better team than LeBron James.
00:10:57 Who?
00:10:58 The Bulls.
00:10:59 Were they better than LeBron's teams that he's been on?
00:11:00 Yes or no?
00:11:01 It was like...
00:11:02 It was not even.
00:11:03 It wasn't.
00:11:04 No, it wasn't.
00:11:05 LeBron had good teammates.
00:11:06 Ask your question.
00:11:07 When LeBron left Cleveland, what seed were there?
00:11:09 When LeBron left...
00:11:10 I don't know.
00:11:11 I didn't pay attention to that, but...
00:11:12 When Michael Jordan left the Bulls, what seed were there?
00:11:14 I don't know.
00:11:15 Number one.
00:11:16 Number one.
00:11:17 They were a better team than LeBron had ever.
00:11:19 The only team...
00:11:20 We're not talking about teams.
00:11:21 We're talking about Michael Jordan and LeBron.
00:11:22 But it matters what team.
00:11:23 Basketball's a team sport.
00:11:24 Yes, it is.
00:11:25 Basketball's a team sport.
00:11:26 So what are you trying to say?
00:11:27 I'm saying that LeBron James is the greatest player ever to touch a basketball.
00:11:30 So if he's the greatest, why do you only got four rings in 24 seasons?
00:11:33 So Bill Russell's the GOAT then.
00:11:34 He has ten rings.
00:11:35 He's an amazing player.
00:11:36 Bill Russell in today's NBA is not getting...
00:11:39 You don't know that.
00:11:40 You don't know that, man.
00:11:41 You don't know that.
00:11:42 Bill Russell today has no jump shot.
00:11:43 You don't know that.
00:11:44 Okay.
00:11:45 The NBA today is harder to dominate because it's the three-point shot.
00:11:48 Okay.
00:11:49 Centers back in the day, they were all dominant...
00:11:50 Oh.
00:11:51 They were all dominating based off of being strength and basically going up and all that
00:11:55 stuff.
00:11:56 Now it's all three-pointers.
00:11:57 Now it's all about if you can shoot from 50 feet or 60 feet. 1.00
00:11:59 He's talking about fucking three-pointers. 0.99
00:12:00 That's what it happens. 1.00
00:12:01 Every single center can shoot threes.
00:12:03 How many MVP's the Bronco?
00:12:04 It doesn't matter about MVP's.
00:12:05 No, it doesn't matter.
00:12:06 So what about politics though? 0.98
00:12:07 If you want to base off of what's popular and stuff, I can say some shit like, oh, 0.88
00:12:12 why do rappers not have this many Grammys? 0.93
00:12:13 Travis Scott doesn't have a Grammy.
00:12:14 I'm basically...
00:12:15 What?
00:12:16 Travis Scott doesn't have a Grammy.
00:12:17 Okay, fine.
00:12:18 So awards don't matter, right?
00:12:19 They're based on awards.
00:12:20 It's a cultural influence.
00:12:21 Michael Jordan has the greatest shoes of all time.
00:12:23 That's facts.
00:12:24 Jordan...
00:12:25 If you're letting the fans aside, it's easily Jordan.
00:12:28 Can we talk about...
00:12:29 Easily Jordan. 0.71
00:12:30 No, if you want...
00:12:31 Who pioneered the number 23?
00:12:32 I just told you.
00:12:33 If you want to base it off branding, Michael Jordan's number one.
00:12:35 Not even branding.
00:12:36 What the world thinks.
00:12:37 Well, again, he changed basketball.
00:12:38 He made basketball popular.
00:12:39 Of course.
00:12:40 But I'm saying who's a better player for LeBron?
00:12:42 I'm saying who's a better player.
00:12:43 Who's a better player? 0.98
00:12:44 How the fuck LeBron played 24 seasons and he only got four? 0.99
00:12:46 He hasn't played 24 seasons. 0.97
00:12:47 How has he gotten to the NBA Finals more times than has lost, more times than has won?
00:12:50 If he's the greatest player of all time...
00:12:51 If he's the greatest player of all time...
00:12:52 If he's the greatest player of all time...
00:12:53 If he's the greatest player of all time...
00:12:54 If he's the greatest player of all time...
00:12:55 Okay.
00:12:56 If you're like...
00:12:57 He's lost more than he's won.
00:12:58 Let me tell you how much of a casual order.
00:12:59 Who did Michael Jordan lose to in the first round?
00:13:01 Bro, I don't remember, bro.
00:13:02 How was it alive?
00:13:03 Can you tell me about the bad boy Pistons?
00:13:05 Do you even know about them?
00:13:06 Name three players on the team.
00:13:07 Name three players on the team.
00:13:08 I didn't talk about anything.
00:13:09 I was talking about something completely different. 0.99
00:13:10 They got fucking read out. 0.98
00:13:11 And I'll explain to you why. 0.99
00:13:12 I'll explain...
00:13:13 Hold on a second.
00:13:14 What?
00:13:15 I'll explain to you why LeBron James lost.
00:13:16 He went against the greatest coach team of all time.
00:13:18 The greatest...
00:13:19 The whole...
00:13:20 Greg Popovich was the greatest coach ever.
00:13:22 One of the greatest coaches.
00:13:23 You got Tim Duncan.
00:13:24 You have Tony Park here of Ginobili.
00:13:25 You have a Kawhi Leonard.
00:13:26 Straight out.
00:13:27 He's not even...
00:13:28 He's on...
00:13:29 He's faced on LeBron the entire game.
00:13:30 After that, you gotta go into this against the 73-9 Golden State Warriors.
00:13:33 Okay?
00:13:34 Again, that team is arguably the greatest team of all time.
00:13:37 You have the 73-9 Warriors.
00:13:38 A prime Klay Thompson.
00:13:39 A prime Jam on Green.
00:13:40 You have Shawn Livingston.
00:13:41 Their bench is amazing.
00:13:42 Shawn Livingston didn't miss a mid-range.
00:13:43 That entire season.
00:13:44 He was a mid-range specialist, okay?
00:13:46 You have Steph Curry, obviously.
00:13:47 Steph Curry.
00:13:48 Steph Curry.
00:13:49 You have a bunch of people.
00:13:50 They added KD.
00:13:51 He's dominating the time. 0.98
00:13:52 The nigga just talking. 1.00
00:13:54 Go to Paul. 0.99
00:13:55 How are you not involving this to me?
00:13:56 No, because it was...
00:13:57 I'm just trying to give you...
00:13:58 Go to Paul.
00:13:59 I'm trying to talk to you.
00:14:00 Call somebody the best.
00:14:01 Let's talk about...
00:14:02 Let's talk about...
00:14:03 Can we talk about best?
00:14:04 Can I talk?
00:14:05 Why do you think they call Messi or Ronaldo the best?
00:14:06 Because they want everything.
00:14:07 That doesn't matter.
00:14:08 They only have four rings!
00:14:09 So Ronaldo just loves it.
00:14:10 There's multiple players with four rings.
00:14:11 Four rings don't define greatness.
00:14:12 All right.
00:14:13 Michael's doing it.
00:14:14 Please do it.
00:14:15 I'm going to go where you are.
00:14:16 Hold on, hold on.
00:14:17 Please.
00:14:18 Let's talk about who Michael's going to play against.
00:14:19 He played against Magic Johnson who had AIDS.
00:14:21 What does that have to do with basketball?
00:14:22 Because he has AIDS.
00:14:24 He obviously...
00:14:25 He had AIDS at the time.
00:14:26 He wasn't playing 10 out of 10 Magic Johnson.
00:14:28 He went against a Karl Malone. 0.98
00:14:30 Karl Malone and fucking John Stockton and all that. 1.00
00:14:33 Yeah, that team was shit, bro. 1.00
00:14:34 That team wasn't even good at all. 1.00
00:14:36 Right now...
00:14:37 Karl Malone?
00:14:38 Yeah.
00:14:39 If I play down with today's NBA, he would not be good.
00:14:40 Do you think he'd be good?
00:14:41 Do you think...
00:14:42 Let me ask you a question.
00:14:43 Do you think Bill Ross, do you think Karl Malone, do you think these players would
00:14:44 be at all?
00:14:45 Yes.
00:14:46 Do you think they'd be all-stars?
00:14:47 Yes.
00:14:48 With the way they played.
00:14:49 You think they'd be all-stars?
00:14:50 You think they'd be dominant in the NBA?
00:14:51 Not dominant, but they'd be all-stars.
00:14:52 Well, they were dominant back in the day?
00:14:53 Absolutely dominant.
00:14:54 You think so?
00:14:55 Absolutely.
00:14:56 Oh wait, how old are you?
00:14:57 I'm 40.
00:14:58 He's seen no play, so I don't know.
00:14:59 No, NBA...
00:15:00 Chad, do you guys believe those...
00:15:01 Chad, pull up, Chad. 1.00
00:15:02 This shit is... 1.00
00:15:03 This basketball... 1.00
00:15:04 The basketball back then was different.
00:15:06 The basketball...
00:15:07 Yeah, it's different.
00:15:08 I agree.
00:15:09 I agree with that.
00:15:10 But what I'm saying...
00:15:11 Back then it was...
00:15:12 Foul.
00:15:13 Now they do...
00:15:14 They spin.
00:15:15 Foul.
00:15:16 They draw you. 0.89
00:15:17 Foul.
00:15:18 It's a harder game.
00:15:19 It's a harder game because you have to create space.
00:15:20 It's fast, right?
00:15:21 Foul rate though.
00:15:22 They gotta...
00:15:23 They can't be...
00:15:24 Like back then...
00:15:25 It was a more fizzle somebody...
00:15:26 It was a more fizzle...
00:15:27 It was a more fizzle...
00:15:28 It was a more fizzle...
00:15:29 It was a more fizzle...
00:15:30 It was a more fizzle...
00:15:31 But who went to the Diddy party?
00:15:32 What the fizzle... 1.00
00:15:33 Michael Jordan's done a lot of crazy shit too. 1.00
00:15:35 Oh. 1.00
00:15:36 Michael Jordan had gambling...
00:15:37 And that caused him...
00:15:38 Throw up the pole.
00:15:39 Throw up the pole.
00:15:40 I'm saying...
00:15:41 Your argument is rings.
00:15:42 Your argument...
00:15:43 You guys can do it both.
00:15:44 Your argument is rings.
00:15:45 Rings don't define greatness.
00:15:46 I'm sorry.
00:15:47 Let's go, Kami! 0.99
00:15:48 Oh, I had better...
00:15:49 I had better points.
00:15:50 He couldn't even name who we went against!
00:15:51 So you get cashed...
00:15:52 You're supposed to know who we went against!
00:15:53 I know all about who we went against!
00:15:55 Come on, Kami! 1.00
00:15:56 Let's go!
00:15:57 That's just bias!
00:15:58 Let's go!
00:15:59 Come on, Chad!
00:16:00 Kami, depression's not real, right?
00:16:01 What do you guys think?
00:16:02 It's not about what you guys think.
00:16:03 It's about what we're debating.
00:16:04 Depression's not real.
00:16:05 You just gotta debate.
00:16:06 You guys chose that here.
00:16:07 You don't think it's real.
00:16:08 Oh my gosh!
00:16:09 Let's do it.
00:16:10 No, let's do it.
00:16:11 Come on.
00:16:12 Let's see if you can debate and change our minds.
00:16:13 That's how we change...
00:16:14 Okay.
00:16:15 Explain to me why you think depression is real.
00:16:16 Depression is a chemical imbalance that people have in their brains.
00:16:17 What's the evidence for that?
00:16:18 I mean, it's literally known.
00:16:20 No, it's not.
00:16:21 It was actually disproven two years ago.
00:16:22 There is no chemical imbalance.
00:16:23 See, who proved that?
00:16:24 That was a theory that people spread around like from 2015 to 2020.
00:16:29 They've since disproven that there's no chemical imbalance.
00:16:31 The brain scans cannot prove that depression means that there's something that you can catch.
00:16:35 Wait, wait, shh!
00:16:36 Chemical imbalance implies that it's something that you just catch randomly.
00:16:38 There could be a state of depression.
00:16:40 You can be sad.
00:16:41 It's an emotion.
00:16:42 I'll ask you a question.
00:16:43 So do you believe that things in like America, I'm just going to say, it's a perfect example.
00:16:48 Americans are really depressed. 0.99
00:16:49 It's because we eat shitty foods. 0.99
00:16:51 We have... 0.99
00:16:52 No, no.
00:16:53 Okay.
00:16:54 Keep going.
00:16:55 Keep going.
00:16:56 Okay.
00:16:57 Shitty foods.
00:16:58 Yeah.
00:16:59 We're...
00:17:00 We're unhealthy, all this stuff.
00:17:01 Right.
00:17:02 We have bad habits and all that.
00:17:03 You know, we're surrounded by electronics.
00:17:04 All this stuff.
00:17:05 We're constantly being stimulated.
00:17:06 Right.
00:17:07 Do you believe that that causes depression?
00:17:08 You just made a bunch of evidence for my point.
00:17:10 That doesn't mean that you have a chemical about you depressed. 0.99
00:17:13 That means you have a shitty diet. 1.00
00:17:14 You're fat. 1.00
00:17:15 You're overweight. 1.00
00:17:16 But it makes you feel not good up here.
00:17:17 Guess what?
00:17:18 Stop eating shitty foods and do better things for yourself and you're going to get out of 0.72
00:17:20 that.
00:17:21 But some people can do that like him and find help and it's...
00:17:23 Let me know when you want me to cook.
00:17:25 Yeah.
00:17:26 He was actually depressed.
00:17:27 Go ahead.
00:17:28 Okay.
00:17:29 What was that last point you just made right now?
00:17:30 That you could be in a state of depression.
00:17:32 Wait, wait.
00:17:33 You...
00:17:34 A state of sadness.
00:17:35 The sentence you just said is there are things you can do to get out of it.
00:17:38 Is that what you said?
00:17:39 Correct.
00:17:40 What is it?
00:17:41 Depression.
00:17:42 Sadness.
00:17:43 What is depression?
00:17:44 Depression is a word that people use to describe depression.
00:17:46 You tell me how before we even start.
00:17:47 That's your question.
00:17:48 Yeah.
00:17:49 Before we get there, I'm sorry.
00:17:50 We're a little too far.
00:17:51 Can I start from the beginning?
00:17:52 Okay.
00:17:53 What is depression to you?
00:17:54 Depression is what people believe that they're in a perpetual state of sadness, but
00:17:57 they can't snap out of it.
00:17:58 It's a belief more than it is a chemical imbalance.
00:18:01 Does them not being able to snap out of it make it real?
00:18:04 Snap out of it.
00:18:05 It's a thing.
00:18:06 Right now, the argument...
00:18:07 I'm not even going to get into talking about it. 0.99
00:18:09 I could cook right now for fucking days. 0.98
00:18:11 I'm asking you on the most basic of levels. 0.99
00:18:13 What's your question?
00:18:14 If they're...
00:18:15 What's it?
00:18:16 If they can fall into a state of sadness, right?
00:18:18 What we can call depression, what depression is.
00:18:20 It's something that they're getting out of, thus making it a real thing.
00:18:23 An emotion.
00:18:24 It's something we're talking about.
00:18:25 That's like being in a state of anger.
00:18:26 So if the argument is, is depression real?
00:18:27 Yes.
00:18:28 It's an emotion to you.
00:18:29 Right.
00:18:30 But it's real.
00:18:31 My point of contention is that it's not a chemical imbalance.
00:18:32 It's something you just catch.
00:18:33 There's always circumstances that you need to get out of to get out of that sadness.
00:18:36 Is schizophrenia real?
00:18:37 Of course.
00:18:38 Okay.
00:18:39 Yeah.
00:18:40 And what causes that in the brain?
00:18:42 That's more complicated than depression.
00:18:43 That's a separate argument.
00:18:44 That's more complicated, but does the brain have the ability to break off cognitive functions
00:18:49 and turn into and be used some way else based on the wiring that it's wired?
00:18:53 Okay.
00:18:54 Are we arguing about schizophrenia?
00:18:55 We're getting to depression.
00:18:56 Okay.
00:18:57 Ask me a depression question.
00:18:58 I'm saying schizophrenia is real.
00:18:59 Okay.
00:19:00 And how is depression not?
00:19:02 If schizophrenia is able to be real, why is depression not?
00:19:05 Because I agree with your partner Aiden. 0.96
00:19:06 Aiden is saying that you can have shitty food, you can be watching porn, you can be putting 0.99
00:19:09 bad things into your body. 0.98
00:19:10 And you can fall into a state of depression by doing so.
00:19:12 By doing that.
00:19:13 That's what I'm saying.
00:19:14 And then you can snap out of it.
00:19:15 Correct.
00:19:16 But it's not a bad impression.
00:19:17 I'll snap out of it.
00:19:18 What's it though?
00:19:19 What's it?
00:19:20 I'll snap out of it.
00:19:21 It's an emotion.
00:19:22 Depression is nothing more than an emotion.
00:19:23 So where's the argument?
00:19:24 You're talking, depression is an emotion.
00:19:25 That's something.
00:19:26 So it's real.
00:19:27 The belief that people have is that depression is something that you catch like a disease.
00:19:28 You can.
00:19:29 No.
00:19:30 You can.
00:19:31 There's no evidence supporting that.
00:19:32 You can.
00:19:33 Okay.
00:19:34 Why?
00:19:35 I'm not putting up like scientific based things like this, but I can't tell you this.
00:19:38 You can't hear about that idea.
00:19:39 No, because I've experienced this one.
00:19:40 So you're talking about how you feel your feelings?
00:19:41 How I feel.
00:19:42 What did you say your depression was?
00:19:43 I said you're making an emotional argument.
00:19:44 What did you say your depression was?
00:19:45 A feeling.
00:19:46 No.
00:19:47 I've experienced it.
00:19:48 I felt it.
00:19:49 The moment it happened, I knew that I said the blood in my, like literally flowing through
00:19:53 me, I'm in a depression.
00:19:54 I felt it come on.
00:19:55 I felt it happen to me.
00:19:56 As four men, we should not make emotional arguments.
00:19:58 What?
00:19:59 I'm not going to.
00:20:00 Now I won't make emotional arguments.
00:20:01 I'll say this.
00:20:02 Listen to this.
00:20:03 Right now, there are two kinds of depression, right?
00:20:06 There can be one that can be brought on.
00:20:07 If you don't want to use the word chemically, brought on by the brain.
00:20:10 Something where it needs fixing and it does need medicine to get it out of something.
00:20:14 It needs more of something or it needs less of something.
00:20:16 You don't have to call it chemical imbalance, but you can fall into depression that way.
00:20:19 But you can also fall into a depression by life going bad.
00:20:23 You losing your job, falling under financial stress, gaining weight, doing something you
00:20:28 shouldn't do.
00:20:29 All of a sudden you don't want to get out of bed.
00:20:30 In the same way we can reach euphoria by being so happy and we can feel excitement and
00:20:35 joy.
00:20:36 Life is a polarity.
00:20:37 There's two sides of every single thing.
00:20:39 So if there's that ecstasy that we can feel, there is that depression that we can feel 0.93
00:20:43 that is so fucking dark. 0.88
00:20:44 You can feel anything. 0.99
00:20:45 I can feel pain.
00:20:46 Have you ever been depressed?
00:20:47 Of course.
00:20:48 I've been sad.
00:20:49 You said you've been depressed.
00:20:50 Sad and depression are the same words.
00:20:52 You're saying that it's a state that you can't get out of.
00:20:54 I'm saying it's just an emotion.
00:20:55 This state that I'm describing, right?
00:20:57 The pit of despair that I was in this year.
00:21:01 You're just finding a really extravagant way to describe sadness.
00:21:04 Pit of despair, sadness, what's the difference?
00:21:06 If it's, but that's depression.
00:21:08 Being sad.
00:21:09 Is it more than-
00:21:10 Sad is a deep state.
00:21:11 Being, sorry, being depressed is a deep state of being sad, like a deeper state.
00:21:15 Like it's deep.
00:21:16 Like it's-
00:21:17 Depression means a lot of things.
00:21:18 It's pretty much the same thing.
00:21:19 A lot of things.
00:21:20 Being sad is like a current, like, oh, I feel sad because of this. 1.00
00:21:23 But being depressed, like, oh, fuck, I'm depressed. 0.99
00:21:25 It's like, it's, it's like way deep. 1.00
00:21:26 It's like a way deeper- 0.99
00:21:27 People who say that though, oh, fuck, I'm depressed. 0.99
00:21:29 They believe that it's something that they caught and that they can't get out of. 1.00
00:21:32 You know what my argument is?
00:21:33 You know what my argument is? 0.98
00:21:34 I've been in the best shape fucking ever. 1.00
00:21:37 Fucking shredded and depressed. 1.00
00:21:39 Fucking miserable. 1.00
00:21:40 Miserable. 1.00
00:21:41 So going to the gym, taking cold showers, hanging out with people doesn't get you out of the state you're in, which is called depression.
00:21:47 That's the state it's in.
00:21:49 It's not, it's not, it's everything in life.
00:21:51 It's doing everything you're supposed to be doing.
00:21:53 Correct.
00:21:54 But to, to not catch what?
00:21:56 Depression.
00:21:57 Let's hear Kambi speak why depression isn't real.
00:22:01 Depression is a natural reaction to not doing what you're supposed to do.
00:22:03 I need to hear your partner.
00:22:04 It's, it's, you know, but you're defining what depression is.
00:22:07 That's real.
00:22:09 He's defining what depression is.
00:22:10 That means it's weird.
00:22:11 He admitted it.
00:22:12 He just said, I've been depressed before.
00:22:13 You just said I was depressed.
00:22:14 It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's the same word.
00:22:16 It's a synonym of sadness.
00:22:17 Depressing is a demonic state.
00:22:18 That's how simple it is.
00:22:19 It's demonic state, depression.
00:22:20 Okay.
00:22:21 So can you please, so, so depression is real.
00:22:24 It's a demonic state.
00:22:25 But can you explain what that means?
00:22:26 Because you're, you're saying that.
00:22:27 Demonic state or not. 0.69
00:22:28 No, no, don't whisper.
00:22:29 Let him speak for himself, Nico.
00:22:30 It's not a chemical imbalance.
00:22:31 What?
00:22:32 It's a chemical imbalance?
00:22:33 It's not a chemical imbalance.
00:22:34 It is.
00:22:35 It's not a chemical imbalance.
00:22:36 Do you know what a chemical imbalance is in your brain?
00:22:37 We're not talking about chemical imbalance.
00:22:39 Give three chemicals that go off in your brain.
00:22:41 Receptors.
00:22:42 No.
00:22:43 Yeah.
00:22:44 But this counts.
00:22:45 You make a great point.
00:22:46 It's a demonic state.
00:22:47 So if you're doing everything you're supposed to be doing.
00:22:48 If you're around your family.
00:22:49 Dude, is everything a demonic state?
00:22:50 Not true.
00:22:51 Not true.
00:22:52 Not true.
00:22:53 Let me answer.
00:22:54 If you are saying consistent with your prayers.
00:22:56 You're eating properly.
00:22:57 You're not putting bad things into your body.
00:22:58 You can still be depressed.
00:22:59 Your mind is focused.
00:23:00 You're doing the right things.
00:23:01 You're getting sun.
00:23:02 You can still be depressed.
00:23:03 You're working hard towards something.
00:23:04 You are not going to be depressed.
00:23:05 But that's a personal thing.
00:23:06 That's why it's a new thing.
00:23:07 You've never experienced that.
00:23:08 Sadness is real.
00:23:09 Depression is not a disease that you catch.
00:23:10 That was a point of contention.
00:23:11 It's not true bro.
00:23:12 It's not true bro.
00:23:13 It's not true.
00:23:14 Hundreds of years before.
00:23:15 People never just.
00:23:16 It would be sad.
00:23:17 There would be something wrong in their life.
00:23:18 Your argument is.
00:23:19 Hell no.
00:23:20 Depression isn't real.
00:23:21 Your argument is how to get out of depression.
00:23:22 Facts.
00:23:23 Being depressed.
00:23:24 You're admitting it's real.
00:23:25 Look, you're admitting it's real though.
00:23:26 You started off by saying it's a chemical.
00:23:27 But you're admitting it's real.
00:23:28 You're admitting it's real.
00:23:29 You're admitting it's real.
00:23:30 You're just saying you can get out of it.
00:23:31 Sadness is real.
00:23:32 Depression is not a disease that you catch.
00:23:34 That was a point of contention.
00:23:35 Nobody said it's a disease.
00:23:36 Nobody called it a disease.
00:23:37 Sadness is a chemical imbalance.
00:23:41 You're saying as if it's something you catch.
00:23:43 It doesn't.
00:23:44 I never said it.
00:23:45 Your brain is being wired.
00:23:46 I never said that you catch it like a disease.
00:23:47 Your brain scans don't.
00:23:48 But is depression real?
00:23:49 There's no brain scans.
00:23:50 Is depression real?
00:23:51 Is the state of depression real?
00:23:53 Not the way that people.
00:23:55 Not the way you're describing it.
00:23:56 No.
00:23:57 Is the state of depression real?
00:23:58 A whole different argument.
00:23:59 A whole different argument.
00:24:00 A whole different argument.
00:24:01 You just don't like.
00:24:02 You can be sad.
00:24:03 You can be sad.
00:24:04 But that's a current state.
00:24:06 I'm asking is depression real?
00:24:08 Is the state of depression real?
00:24:09 That question is flawed.
00:24:10 That's like saying can you be angry?
00:24:12 Can you be hungry?
00:24:13 Yeah, of course.
00:24:14 The state of hunger is a yes or no.
00:24:15 Can you be depressed? 0.83
00:24:16 But that's a silly question. 0.88
00:24:17 Your argument.
00:24:18 His argument is how to get out.
00:24:19 That's the question.
00:24:20 Exactly.
00:24:21 Pull it.
00:24:22 Pull it.
00:24:23 Pull it.
00:24:24 Pull it.
00:24:25 Pull it.
00:24:26 Pull it.
00:24:27 Not a chemical imbalance.
00:24:28 Yo, we won that one.
00:24:29 We won that one.
00:24:30 That was the closest one.
00:24:31 We're still up 3-2.
00:24:32 It was about to win.
00:24:33 3-2.
00:24:34 First to five.
00:24:35 You won one before this.
00:24:36 It was 3-1.
00:24:37 I was 3-2.
00:24:38 You're down 3-1.
00:24:39 You're down 3-1.
00:24:40 No, it's 3-2.
00:24:41 I won the back of Jordan one. 0.99
00:24:42 I'll go gay son. 1.00
00:24:43 Someone said gay son or Christian son? 1.00
00:24:44 What the fuck? 1.00
00:24:45 Okay. 1.00
00:24:46 Let's do gay son daughter. 1.00
00:24:47 Let Fousey choose. 0.99
00:24:48 Oh, you choose me. 0.99
00:24:49 Gay son. 1.00
00:24:50 Fat daughter. 1.00
00:24:51 Gay son. 1.00
00:24:52 Give him gay son. 1.00
00:24:53 Give him gay son because obviously you don't have an opinion. 1.00
00:24:55 And you're going to get fat daughter? 1.00
00:24:56 What? 0.94
00:24:57 Yeah. 0.99
00:24:58 It's easy to argue for gay son. 1.00
00:24:59 We got fat daughter. 1.00
00:25:00 I know you're going to say. 0.97
00:25:01 What? 0.97
00:25:02 I think gay son wins. 0.98
00:25:03 How? 0.95
00:25:04 Okay, so arguments.
00:25:05 Because I know what his argument is going to be. 1.00
00:25:06 It's a pussy, bro. 1.00
00:25:07 Nah. 1.00
00:25:08 Oh, this one.
00:25:09 I can't. 1.00
00:25:10 Ah, fuck. 1.00
00:25:11 I know why. 1.00
00:25:12 So I could win this one, but I can't argue it. 0.98
00:25:13 So should we just do gay son? 0.98
00:25:14 Huh? 1.00
00:25:15 No, no, no. 0.99
00:25:16 I already got gay son. 0.98
00:25:17 Well, there's a reason why. 0.98
00:25:18 I know.
00:25:19 Continuation from my last debate. 1.00
00:25:20 You said that you want your daughter to go with the spears and get fucked and do all 1.00
00:25:22 this stuff before they realize what they need to do. 0.99
00:25:24 So it's a continuation.
00:25:25 That's what you said last time.
00:25:26 That's different.
00:25:27 My debate with you last time was a lot better.
00:25:28 Can we just debate that instead?
00:25:30 Redebate that with you?
00:25:31 No, no, no, no. 1.00
00:25:32 Gay son thought daughter. 1.00
00:25:33 Ah, fuck it. 1.00
00:25:34 Do you want that? 1.00
00:25:35 It's just, I know exactly what he's going to say.
00:25:37 Come on. 1.00
00:25:38 Fuck it. 1.00
00:25:39 Come on. 1.00
00:25:40 All right.
00:25:41 Start it off.
00:25:42 Okay.
00:25:43 So why would you want a thought daughter? 1.00
00:25:44 You want a whore daughter? 1.00
00:25:45 Are you right? 1.00
00:25:46 Like if God gave you a daughter, she's going to be a fucking whore. 1.00
00:25:47 He's not getting fucked in the ass. 1.00
00:25:48 Because he can get out of that. 1.00
00:25:49 By the way, my gay son is going to be doing the fucking. 1.00
00:25:50 He's not getting fucked. 1.00
00:25:51 You don't know that. 0.99
00:25:52 Wow.
00:25:53 He might want to try it.
00:25:54 No, no. 1.00
00:25:55 He might want dick in his butt. 1.00
00:25:56 My gay son. 1.00
00:25:57 First off, first off. 1.00
00:25:58 The gay son. 0.99
00:25:59 You don't know. 0.70
00:26:00 It's a 50-50. 1.00
00:26:01 If he's getting fucked or doing the fucking. 1.00
00:26:02 No, they do both. 1.00
00:26:03 If you have a whore. 1.00
00:26:04 Ask gay people. 1.00
00:26:05 Ask gay people. 0.96
00:26:06 I've talked gay people.
00:26:07 They say they do both.
00:26:08 I don't know what you do.
00:26:09 But I'm saying.
00:26:10 Gay people, usually it's 50-50. 0.99
00:26:11 That's not worse. 1.00
00:26:12 One is the fucker. 1.00
00:26:13 There's a 100% chance of not getting fucked. 1.00
00:26:14 Let me switch off. 1.00
00:26:15 If you have a thought daughter, there's a 100% chance that she's getting fucked. 0.99
00:26:18 I'd rather take the 50% chance any day. 0.99
00:26:21 I'll take the 50% any day.
00:26:22 That's fine.
00:26:23 So I can speak on thought daughter.
00:26:24 And she's shaming your family. 1.00
00:26:25 So I can speak on. 0.99
00:26:26 So is the gay son. 0.91
00:26:27 Technically, if you want to go there. 0.71
00:26:28 Yeah, but he can keep it private.
00:26:29 If a girl's a thought, everybody knows. 0.97
00:26:30 She's running around in public. 1.00
00:26:31 Everyone's gossiping about it. 1.00
00:26:32 Because your gay son is going to be doing the braids and shit. 1.00
00:26:35 And that's fine. 1.00
00:26:36 He's going to be wearing the shirt.
00:26:37 No, he's not.
00:26:38 But you don't even know.
00:26:39 You're not making a convinced statement.
00:26:41 You don't know me.
00:26:42 I'm trying to.
00:26:43 The amount of gay people that even go to the park. 0.60
00:26:44 It's like what? 0.65
00:26:45 20, 30% of them are all doing this.
00:26:46 Most of them are undercover.
00:26:47 You don't even know. 0.98
00:26:48 Most gay people.
00:26:49 Not anymore.
00:26:50 Not anymore. 0.51
00:26:51 Most gay people.
00:26:52 Not anymore.
00:26:53 Everybody knows.
00:26:55 Everybody shames the father.
00:26:57 I actually don't want to talk about this topic anymore.
00:26:58 We want it.
00:26:59 We want it already.
00:27:00 You don't want to talk about it.
00:27:01 The whole world shames the daughter.
00:27:02 Bullet.
00:27:03 Bullet. 0.70
00:27:04 Bullet. 0.70
00:27:05 Bullet. 0.70
00:27:06 Bullet. 0.91
00:27:07 His sins are forgiven.
00:27:08 And people aren't going to shame him.
00:27:09 He's not going to convert. 0.98
00:27:10 Of course.
00:27:11 Once he finds God.
00:27:12 But once your thought daughter finds God.
00:27:13 Wow. 0.92
00:27:14 So you're saying gay people don't have God in their life? 0.98
00:27:15 No. 0.99
00:27:16 Of course they don't.
00:27:17 Most of them don't.
00:27:18 Most of them don't.
00:27:19 But once they relinquish.
00:27:20 They don't?
00:27:21 They could.
00:27:22 No, they could.
00:27:23 They could. 0.99
00:27:24 You could still sin and be gay. 0.99
00:27:25 But once they relinquish their past.
00:27:26 But it's the same to do a bunch of things. 0.89
00:27:27 People are not going to shame the gay son. 0.89
00:27:28 I can't. 0.95
00:27:29 I could win this one.
00:27:30 But I can't.
00:27:31 I'm not getting.
00:27:32 I'm not getting.
00:27:33 I'm not getting.
00:27:34 I got to get a ban.
00:27:35 What's that 4-2?
00:27:36 Yeah, I'm not.
00:27:37 I can't.
00:27:38 4-2 in a point.
00:27:39 It's not worth it.
00:27:40 It's not worth it for me.
00:27:41 Not 4-2.
00:27:42 Not 4-2.
00:27:43 Not 4-2.
00:27:44 Not 4-2.
00:27:45 Not 4-2.
00:27:46 Not 4-2. 0.99
00:27:47 Chat, all of you are gay too. 1.00
00:27:48 You just voted for a gay son. 1.00
00:27:49 That is crazy. 1.00
00:27:50 What's wrong with you, man? 1.00
00:27:51 Gay ass chat. 1.00
00:27:52 3-2. 1.00
00:27:53 3-2.
00:27:54 3-2.
00:27:55 3-2.
00:27:56 Who I hit 4-2.
00:27:57 Who I hit 4-2.
00:27:58 Who I hit 4-2.
00:27:59 I don't want to do this one.
00:28:00 Why? 0.98
00:28:01 Because it's free Palestine all fucking day. 0.99
00:28:03 It's amazing. 0.99
00:28:04 There's no.
00:28:05 There's no.
00:28:06 It's a segment.
00:28:07 We're not taking it seriously.
00:28:08 Yeah, but this one is too close to home.
00:28:09 You know.
00:28:10 Emotional arguments so you can't have a debate like a professional?
00:28:12 Come on.
00:28:13 When it comes to full esteem.
00:28:14 I don't even talk about it on my stream because of how like.
00:28:17 You go to protest for free.
00:28:18 Let's not do it, bro.
00:28:19 It's a real life problem in the world.
00:28:20 I don't think we should talk about it for real.
00:28:21 Yeah.
00:28:22 You want to take.
00:28:23 I gave you guys the winning side and you're still running?
00:28:25 It's up to you.
00:28:26 I think it's 5-2 now.
00:28:27 You just forfeited.
00:28:28 No.
00:28:29 Pick another one.
00:28:30 I don't think that's a good idea.
00:28:31 I don't even want to.
00:28:33 It's.
00:28:34 Look.
00:28:35 And here's what I always say.
00:28:36 Look.
00:28:37 The reason I wouldn't argue it and why.
00:28:38 Where I'm at with it.
00:28:39 My sister's on the front lines.
00:28:40 This is all she does, right?
00:28:41 Yeah.
00:28:42 She knows politics.
00:28:43 I know Palestine.
00:28:44 I'm humanitarian side.
00:28:45 My blood is Palestinian.
00:28:47 My dad was born in Palestine.
00:28:49 He grew up in Palestine.
00:28:50 He got kicked out.
00:28:52 This is my answer.
00:28:53 Listen.
00:28:54 I'm listening.
00:28:55 But.
00:28:56 So I know it from a very deep personal.
00:28:57 I've been to Palestine in 1996 in the year 2000.
00:28:59 We're not.
00:29:00 This is a.
00:29:01 My whole point is.
00:29:02 Um. 1.00
00:29:03 Fuck. 1.00
00:29:04 Don't forget the point. 1.00
00:29:05 This is the same argument.
00:29:06 I don't know enough politics.
00:29:07 So I can't sit here and politically argue Palestine.
00:29:09 You know genocide's wrong.
00:29:10 Of course.
00:29:11 You have the winning side.
00:29:12 Go.
00:29:13 Go.
00:29:14 Go.
00:29:15 I guess that is my point.
00:29:16 You can't say that.
00:29:17 I was born in Palestine.
00:29:18 I can't see that.
00:29:19 Then they're going to vote.
00:29:20 You can't see that.
00:29:21 He just said we got the winning side.
00:29:22 Don't go bro.
00:29:23 Just do another one bro.
00:29:24 Come on.
00:29:25 Someone knows.
00:29:26 You're going to lose it.
00:29:27 Don't do it.
00:29:28 Don't do it.
00:29:29 Just do another one.
00:29:30 I'll just give you the argument.
00:29:31 Is that.
00:29:32 If we're going to go and blame.
00:29:33 The Israelis for taking the land. 1.00
00:29:34 And committing genocide. 0.96
00:29:35 Americans right now.
00:29:36 We did the same exact thing.
00:29:37 To the Native Americans.
00:29:38 And there's the problem.
00:29:39 Like if we're going to say that.
00:29:40 Then we should give up.
00:29:41 American land back to the Native Americans. 0.60
00:29:42 And say we genocided these people.
00:29:44 They deserve their land back.
00:29:45 The people that flip off.
00:29:46 The Native Americans with long hair. 0.95
00:29:47 And stuff like that.
00:29:48 That look like.
00:29:49 Alcoholics in casinos all day.
00:29:50 This is your argument.
00:29:51 That's the argument.
00:29:52 Is what America did.
00:29:53 To the Native Americans wrong. 1.00
00:29:54 It's the same.
00:29:55 Yeah of course.
00:29:56 Is it wrong.
00:29:57 Yes.
00:29:58 Is what Israel is doing wrong then.
00:30:00 In that argument.
00:30:01 Yeah.
00:30:02 Yeah.
00:30:03 But we're saying we're all hypocrites. 0.92
00:30:04 There you go. 0.84
00:30:05 And throughout history.
00:30:06 We won already.
00:30:07 You just conceded.
00:30:08 No I'm not conceding.
00:30:09 I'm saying we're all.
00:30:10 You conceded.
00:30:11 You just said it wrong.
00:30:12 The point is you can't take a moral high ground.
00:30:13 If throughout the world.
00:30:14 Everybody is colonized everywhere.
00:30:15 We've all displaced.
00:30:16 We've all changed places.
00:30:17 There's winners and losers.
00:30:18 The Americans.
00:30:19 The people that came here from Europe. 0.99
00:30:20 They destroyed genocide.
00:30:21 It's red flu to all the natives.
00:30:22 We won.
00:30:23 And now we're enjoying the fruits of the labor in America.
00:30:24 So because it's happened before.
00:30:25 It doesn't matter if it's happening again.
00:30:26 We're not.
00:30:27 We don't have to talk about the past.
00:30:29 And talk about Native Americans in America.
00:30:31 What do you live?
00:30:32 All we got to talk about is what's happening right now.
00:30:34 Okay.
00:30:35 While I'm still alive.
00:30:36 Right.
00:30:37 Palestine is being genocided. 0.54
00:30:38 Yeah they are.
00:30:39 Right now.
00:30:40 Where do you live?
00:30:41 America.
00:30:42 Yeah.
00:30:43 You're a colonizer too.
00:30:44 So if you can't have a moral high ground about what's happening there.
00:30:45 I can't.
00:30:46 No.
00:30:47 I can't.
00:30:48 So we.
00:30:49 That's such a far argument.
00:30:50 That's such a far argument.
00:30:51 You are weaving the fruits of the labor of the same thing.
00:30:52 Of the colonizers that won.
00:30:53 My father was forced to leave.
00:30:54 He had to come to America. 1.00
00:30:55 He was born in Palestine.
00:30:56 But guess what?
00:30:57 Where's Palestine now?
00:30:58 You're a grown man.
00:30:59 Where do you currently live?
00:31:00 I live in.
00:31:01 California.
00:31:02 Where my father got kicked to.
00:31:03 My friend.
00:31:04 You can move.
00:31:05 Where my father got kicked to.
00:31:06 You can move.
00:31:07 Where?
00:31:08 Why don't you give up your house and give it to a Native American? 1.00
00:31:09 I don't even know the history.
00:31:10 Like look respectfully.
00:31:11 It's the same thing that happened.
00:31:12 I don't.
00:31:13 I don't.
00:31:14 I need to.
00:31:15 I need to look into that.
00:31:16 Respectfully I need to look into that.
00:31:17 If you're going to follow that logic.
00:31:18 Give your house to a Native American. 1.00
00:31:19 No.
00:31:20 I don't know the history behind that.
00:31:21 I don't know the history.
00:31:22 I have to check it.
00:31:23 You're telling me Israel's right. 1.00
00:31:24 You're telling me a lot of things.
00:31:25 No. 0.98
00:31:26 I'm saying we're all hypocrites. 0.84
00:31:27 This is history. 0.59
00:31:28 This is the world.
00:31:29 It's how it works.
00:31:30 It's winners and losers.
00:31:31 If it's history.
00:31:32 Let's stop it now.
00:31:33 Before it becomes history.
00:31:34 Before one day when I have a kid.
00:31:35 I can't even open a geography book.
00:31:36 I agree.
00:31:37 And show him where Palestine is on the map.
00:31:39 Sure.
00:31:40 But then.
00:31:41 You should also give up your house in America. 0.59
00:31:42 In San Diego.
00:31:43 To a Native American.
00:31:44 I'll do my research on that.
00:31:45 And see if that's what I feel called to do.
00:31:46 Okay.
00:31:47 My point is.
00:31:48 Even though what's happening now.
00:31:49 This is just how the world works.
00:31:50 No.
00:31:51 Territories change.
00:31:52 Country's going to lose.
00:31:53 Borders change.
00:31:54 Then there will be no change ever. 0.92
00:31:55 Let's all go genocide each other. 1.00
00:31:56 Let's go.
00:31:57 Where do you want to go take over?
00:31:58 Let's go take over. 0.98
00:31:59 Let's go squat somewhere.
00:32:00 Let's go squat something else.
00:32:01 Because there's so many squatters already.
00:32:02 Let's go do it again.
00:32:03 Who cares?
00:32:04 He's like I'm cooking.
00:32:05 No.
00:32:06 He's listening.
00:32:07 No. 1.00
00:32:08 There is no shit. 0.99
00:32:09 Okay. 1.00
00:32:10 Who won?
00:32:11 I just think two wrongs will make a right.
00:32:12 Yeah.
00:32:13 But that's exactly it.
00:32:14 That's what I'm saying.
00:32:15 Everybody who says like three palace wall in America.
00:32:16 But we're still reaping the benefits of the colonizer point of view.
00:32:19 We live in the country of colonizers. 0.61
00:32:21 I understand what he's saying.
00:32:22 But again two wrongs don't make a wrong.
00:32:24 I'm not saying that either. 0.98
00:32:25 But we're all hypocrites. 0.98
00:32:26 Like. 0.98
00:32:27 If we're living in America.
00:32:28 If you're living in the West.
00:32:29 You colonize.
00:32:30 If you know something's happening right now.
00:32:31 You do something about it.
00:32:32 You speak up.
00:32:33 Okay.
00:32:34 Then you should give up your house.
00:32:35 Give it to me.
00:32:36 That's a whole different argument here.
00:32:37 And if I.
00:32:38 That's doing something about it.
00:32:39 One.
00:32:40 One.
00:32:41 I don't know enough about that to say what my point would be.
00:32:43 Let me study it.
00:32:44 And let me come back and say that.
00:32:45 And two.
00:32:46 My father got kicked here.
00:32:47 Yeah.
00:32:48 My father coming as a refugee looking for shelter.
00:32:50 Got sent me.
00:32:51 I know.
00:32:52 I'm saying.
00:32:53 I'm saying it's bad.
00:32:54 I'm saying colonization is bad.
00:32:55 Okay.
00:32:56 So then you lost.
00:32:57 Off of it now.
00:32:58 So we can't say that it's like morally bad.
00:32:59 This is so evil.
00:33:00 When we're reaping the benefits of it.
00:33:02 Who won?
00:33:03 Why do you not want to get in the clip?
00:33:04 Pull it.
00:33:05 Pull it.
00:33:06 Pull it.
00:33:07 Pull it.
00:33:08 Pull it.
00:33:09 But I still.
00:33:10 Two wrongs don't make it right.
00:33:11 Pull it.
00:33:12 Pull it.
00:33:13 Pull it.
00:33:14 I'm not saying it's right.
00:33:15 I'm saying this is how life works.
00:33:16 Like.
00:33:17 You know.
00:33:18 People shoot each other in the head every day.
00:33:19 It doesn't make it okay for me to pull out my gun.
00:33:20 I'm not saying two wrongs don't make it right.
00:33:21 You can say the same thing about the morality of an iPhone.
00:33:22 Like child slaves in China make this.
00:33:23 We're still using it.
00:33:24 Like we know it's bad but we still use things that are bad in the world.
00:33:27 5-2. 0.57
00:33:28 That's disgusting. 0.95
00:33:29 That's disgusting. 0.99
00:33:30 That's disgusting. 0.97
00:33:31 That's actually disgusting.
00:33:32 I had to win when I had to win.
00:33:33 I won the Michael Jordan won.
00:33:34 And that's the argument that Ethan Klein should use when he finally.
00:33:36 That's a horrible argument.
00:33:38 That's a horrible argument.
00:33:39 That's a horrible argument.
00:33:40 Why did I win?
00:33:41 That's a horrible. 0.99
00:33:42 I don't give a fuck. 1.00
00:33:43 That's a horrible argument. 0.99
00:33:44 I'm not taking that.