SNEAKO - September 28, 2024


SNEAKO & Konvy Debate Adin Ross & Fousey


Episode Stats

Length

33 minutes

Words per Minute

245.12282

Word Count

8,276

Sentence Count

1,374

Misogynist Sentences

26

Hate Speech Sentences

48


Summary

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In this episode, we discuss the earth being flat and if it is or isn t. We also discuss if the earth is round or not. We have a special guest on the show this week and he's a Christian.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 Three minutes of topic.
00:00:04.400 Leon's got it, and then you guys are gonna go to the sides.
00:00:09.040 Three minutes of topic.
00:00:09.760 You guys get to talk really quick, our teams.
00:00:12.440 And then you guys come back as a unit, and you guys.
00:00:14.440 For this first one, I think I already know.
00:00:17.000 Leon will tell you, I'm not part of the game.
00:00:18.640 First topic is the Earth flag.
00:00:21.400 Okay, do you believe it is?
00:00:22.520 Of course, Earth flag.
00:00:23.360 I don't think it is.
00:00:24.240 Okay, now we break the clock.
00:00:25.840 Okay, now you guys can't talk.
00:00:27.480 Now you guys go break the clock.
00:00:29.760 Are we talking on stream?
00:00:30.760 No, but guess what he's saying.
00:00:31.760 No, right here.
00:00:32.760 Do you think it's flat?
00:00:33.760 Just turn, turn.
00:00:34.760 Turn!
00:00:35.760 Discuss what you have.
00:00:36.760 It doesn't matter.
00:00:37.760 You're gonna have to agree with him.
00:00:38.760 It's not flat.
00:00:39.760 Are you fucking dumb?
00:00:40.760 You're a Christian, aren't you?
00:00:41.760 Yes.
00:00:42.760 Do you know the first page of Genesis?
00:00:43.760 No.
00:00:44.760 Have you read the Bible?
00:00:46.760 Some of it.
00:00:47.760 The first page talks about the Thurman.
00:00:49.760 Who is that?
00:00:50.760 You got my son.
00:00:51.760 Trust me.
00:00:52.760 I have points.
00:00:53.760 Let's go ahead.
00:00:54.760 That's enough time.
00:00:55.760 They're cheating.
00:00:56.760 They're Googling.
00:00:57.760 They're Googling.
00:00:58.760 All right.
00:00:59.760 Go.
00:01:00.760 Okay, three minutes.
00:01:01.760 Three minutes on the clock.
00:01:02.760 Hey Tom, put three minutes on the clock.
00:01:03.760 Eat up, yeah.
00:01:04.760 Three minutes on the clock.
00:01:05.760 Who starts, Leon?
00:01:06.760 Okay, of course the earth is flat.
00:01:07.760 Have you ever seen it round?
00:01:08.760 Yes, I have.
00:01:09.760 Where?
00:01:10.760 In pictures of satellite images.
00:01:12.760 Have you ever seen it with your own eyes?
00:01:13.760 Already cooked.
00:01:14.760 Can I speak?
00:01:15.760 I've never been to space.
00:01:16.760 Can I speak, please?
00:01:17.760 I can cook right now.
00:01:18.760 I don't know if it does.
00:01:19.760 Shit, you're lucky.
00:01:20.760 Does the Quran say the earth is flat around?
00:01:22.760 It says it's spread thin like a carpet.
00:01:24.760 Mmm.
00:01:25.760 I didn't cook him.
00:01:26.760 Hold, hold, hold, hold, hold.
00:01:27.760 I'm allowed to speak.
00:01:28.760 I'm going to do the right way.
00:01:29.760 After, okay, let me respond to his question.
00:01:30.760 Okay.
00:01:31.760 The first line of questioning was have you ever seen it round?
00:01:32.760 He answered no.
00:01:33.760 He has not seen it ever.
00:01:34.760 I've never been to the moon.
00:01:35.760 Okay, but with your own eyes.
00:01:36.760 I've seen pictures.
00:01:37.760 Okay.
00:01:38.760 It could be edited.
00:01:39.760 With your own eyes.
00:01:40.760 Have you seen God?
00:01:41.760 Of course not.
00:01:42.760 How do you know he's real?
00:01:43.760 Bam!
00:01:44.760 Cook!
00:01:45.760 Doesn't matter if I didn't see it.
00:01:46.760 You know that it's real.
00:01:47.760 That's a cook.
00:01:48.760 You know that's a cook.
00:01:49.760 There's evidence that God, because everything must be created by God, right?
00:01:51.760 What is the evidence of third this round?
00:01:53.760 If I may speak, please.
00:01:54.760 So, science is science.
00:01:56.760 Do you believe in science?
00:01:57.760 Uh, no.
00:01:58.760 A lot of time, no.
00:01:59.760 We said trust the science during COVID and they lied about that.
00:02:00.760 They told everyone to get vaccinated.
00:02:01.760 I understand, but that's different.
00:02:02.760 That's a test, right?
00:02:03.760 You and I spoke about COVID being a test.
00:02:05.760 I want to ask you a question.
00:02:06.760 Do you believe in science?
00:02:07.760 No.
00:02:08.760 Why?
00:02:09.760 Science is the art of questioning.
00:02:10.760 You're supposed to question science.
00:02:11.760 You can't just believe it.
00:02:12.760 But what's proven?
00:02:13.760 Not a theory.
00:02:14.760 Do you believe in science?
00:02:15.760 It's never been proven.
00:02:16.760 Can I just ask you a question?
00:02:17.760 Okay.
00:02:18.760 Why is it that the time, there's like a, there's parts in the year where we set a clock back
00:02:22.760 an hour and we set a clock forward.
00:02:23.760 Do you know why?
00:02:24.760 What does that have to do?
00:02:25.760 Okay.
00:02:26.760 Because when the earth is at a certain rotation, when the earth rotates, you know, because
00:02:29.760 that's what it does.
00:02:30.760 It's a sphere.
00:02:31.760 It's not a flat.
00:02:32.760 It doesn't spin like this.
00:02:33.760 It rotates like this.
00:02:34.760 So, that's why we set hours back and we go an hour clock back and we go an hour forward
00:02:38.760 because the sun, it takes forever to come up.
00:02:39.760 It takes forever to go down.
00:02:40.760 No, no, no.
00:02:41.760 He's taking it.
00:02:42.760 Why?
00:02:43.760 No.
00:02:44.760 Nigga, the sun go around the earth, nigga.
00:02:45.760 Yeah.
00:02:46.760 That's a good point.
00:02:47.760 Wait.
00:02:48.760 Okay.
00:02:49.760 Don't give me that smart.
00:02:50.760 The sun go around the earth.
00:02:51.760 Wait.
00:02:52.760 Wait.
00:02:53.760 What did you say?
00:02:54.760 What did you say?
00:02:55.760 Go around.
00:02:56.760 Go around.
00:02:57.760 Yo.
00:02:58.760 Go around.
00:02:59.760 That's a good point.
00:03:00.760 If it's flat, what does it do?
00:03:01.760 Go to the left and go to the right.
00:03:02.760 No, it doesn't.
00:03:03.760 It goes around.
00:03:04.760 You just lost your own argument.
00:03:06.760 We won.
00:03:07.760 Call it.
00:03:08.760 Hold on.
00:03:09.760 Answer the clock.
00:03:10.760 Go in the chat.
00:03:11.760 You're going around in circles?
00:03:12.760 The next one will be out at all times.
00:03:13.760 It will never set.
00:03:14.760 This is flat right here.
00:03:15.760 It's set since it goes to the other side of the earth.
00:03:18.760 Yo, we won.
00:03:19.760 Call it.
00:03:20.760 Anyone under is shit, bro.
00:03:21.760 So can you answer the question about the clocks?
00:03:23.760 I want to go back to the clock.
00:03:24.760 No, no, no.
00:03:25.760 Answer my- I just said something.
00:03:26.760 Answer me.
00:03:27.760 I want to respond to Fousey from the beginning.
00:03:28.760 Answer me.
00:03:29.760 If you want to have a debate, yelling is not gonna-
00:03:30.760 whoever yells-
00:03:31.760 Okay, okay.
00:03:32.760 I'm sorry.
00:03:33.760 Answer me.
00:03:34.760 I'll listen.
00:03:35.760 Let me answer Fousey and then I'll get to you.
00:03:36.760 Go.
00:03:37.760 You said you told me I have not seen it, right?
00:03:38.760 You've seen pictures of it.
00:03:39.760 The pictures are made by NASA.
00:03:40.760 Do you know what NASA means in Hebrew?
00:03:41.760 I'm listening.
00:03:42.760 NASA means Hebrew.
00:03:43.760 It means deception in Hebrew.
00:03:44.760 Lie.
00:03:45.760 They talk about SpaceX.
00:03:46.760 That means it's crossed out.
00:03:47.760 There's no evidence of it.
00:03:48.760 All we see is fisheye pictures from outer space.
00:03:49.760 We're trying to separate us from God.
00:03:51.760 To make a statement.
00:03:52.760 It's all infinite.
00:03:53.760 That's the timer.
00:03:54.760 You need to answer my question.
00:03:55.760 That's the timer.
00:03:56.760 That's the timer.
00:03:57.760 Final point.
00:03:58.760 My question needs to be answered.
00:03:59.760 Okay, bro.
00:04:00.760 About the clocks being an hour ahead and the hour before.
00:04:04.760 It means when the earth is-
00:04:05.760 Certain parts of the years?
00:04:06.760 Sorry.
00:04:07.760 When certain part in the year, there's a couple times throughout the year where you set a
00:04:09.760 clock back, you set a clock forward.
00:04:10.760 It's because the sun takes for longer to come up and it's not the longer.
00:04:13.760 It's just the fact that the earth is rotating.
00:04:15.760 Do you understand?
00:04:16.760 If it was flat, it would be turning.
00:04:17.760 It's rotating.
00:04:18.760 It's a sphere.
00:04:19.760 Are you talking about time zones?
00:04:20.760 I'm asking you a question.
00:04:21.760 Why do we push an hour up?
00:04:23.760 We do that for farms.
00:04:24.760 We do that for different parts of the world.
00:04:25.760 It's nothing to do with the-
00:04:26.760 Why in the summer does it, it takes later for it to get, sorry, later for it to get darker?
00:04:31.760 In the summertime, why does it take later for it to get darker?
00:04:34.760 Because the sun, it doesn't go across, it doesn't rotate around the same all the time.
00:04:38.760 So how come throughout the year that changes?
00:04:40.760 Because it's going in different parts of the earth.
00:04:41.760 Yeah.
00:04:42.760 It's a sphere.
00:04:43.760 It's rotating.
00:04:44.760 If it was flat, it would just be turning, correct?
00:04:45.760 Mm-hmm.
00:04:46.760 That makes no sense.
00:04:47.760 So it's here.
00:04:48.760 Sometimes the sun's over there.
00:04:49.760 Sometimes it's over here.
00:04:50.760 So the sun's rotating.
00:04:51.760 The sun goes around the earth, yes.
00:04:52.760 No.
00:04:53.760 I'm asking you a question.
00:04:54.760 Why is it that when the clocks go back an hour and they go forward-
00:04:57.760 That's because daylight savings.
00:04:58.760 That has nothing to do with the sun.
00:04:59.760 So daylight savings-
00:05:00.760 We manually do that.
00:05:01.760 Daylight savings does not exist and that's only been around-
00:05:03.760 So why?
00:05:04.760 So why?
00:05:05.760 Okay, if we just kept the same time period throughout the entire year, it would get dark earlier
00:05:08.760 and it would get lighter later.
00:05:10.760 You're saying it's flat.
00:05:11.760 What's beneath the earth then?
00:05:12.760 Beneath the earth is, there's nothing.
00:05:14.760 Okay, but where does the sun and the moon go?
00:05:16.760 Where do they go when they go hiding that we don't see them?
00:05:18.760 It goes back and forth.
00:05:19.760 It's different parts of the earth.
00:05:20.760 It's different parts of the earth.
00:05:21.760 This way, left and right.
00:05:22.760 It goes like in a line back and a line forward.
00:05:24.760 It goes like this.
00:05:25.760 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
00:05:26.760 Oh, so you made your own flight plan as to how it goes and everything.
00:05:29.760 There's not a flight plan.
00:05:30.760 Actually, there is zero scientific evidence behind any argument that you're making right now.
00:05:35.760 It is 100% an opinion.
00:05:37.760 100%.
00:05:38.760 Especially saying it goes like this.
00:05:40.760 If you're going to bring a flight pad as most pilots agree that the earth is flat.
00:05:43.760 They've never seen around.
00:05:44.760 There's no picture.
00:05:45.760 I gotta call it.
00:05:46.760 He called it.
00:05:47.760 He's the moderator.
00:05:48.760 He called it, called it.
00:05:49.760 Fousey kicked your ass on that one.
00:05:50.760 On that one?
00:05:51.760 There's no pilot that's ever said the earth is flat.
00:05:53.760 One, that's not really a thing.
00:05:55.760 That's some nonsense that you heard on the internet.
00:05:59.760 Stop.
00:06:00.760 If you ask any pilot.
00:06:01.760 There's no celestial body that bounces back and forth.
00:06:04.760 That's not a thing.
00:06:05.760 Fousey didn't buy anything.
00:06:06.760 No, no.
00:06:07.760 The point of it is, it's supposed to be logic.
00:06:10.760 Nothing you said was logic.
00:06:11.760 You guys need to keep going.
00:06:12.760 Wait, next topic?
00:06:13.760 Next topic.
00:06:14.760 Let the chat decide who wins.
00:06:17.760 No, I don't even think the earth is flat.
00:06:18.760 I'm just arguing for this.
00:06:19.760 Yeah, we're just-
00:06:20.760 Exactly.
00:06:21.760 Look, look, look, look, look, look, look.
00:06:23.760 Okay, we won.
00:06:24.760 Ah, ah, ah.
00:06:25.760 Moon landing.
00:06:26.760 Oh, yeah.
00:06:27.760 Real or fake?
00:06:28.760 Okay.
00:06:29.760 Well.
00:06:30.760 Well, we have to see if we have differing opinions.
00:06:32.760 I believe it was fake.
00:06:33.760 Aiden gets fake.
00:06:35.760 Okay.
00:06:36.760 Okay.
00:06:37.760 Okay.
00:06:38.760 Sunnico gets real.
00:06:39.760 All right.
00:06:40.760 What do you think is real?
00:06:41.760 It doesn't matter.
00:06:42.760 It doesn't matter anything.
00:06:43.760 It doesn't matter.
00:06:44.760 All right.
00:06:45.760 So, I'll explain why it's fake.
00:06:46.760 I don't think we need to talk it over.
00:06:47.760 So, why haven't we done it recently?
00:06:49.760 Why has nobody went-
00:06:50.760 We have the best technology we've had, you know, ever.
00:06:52.760 You know, and I agree that-
00:06:54.760 I think that the government has technology that-
00:06:56.760 Like, for example, we have the iPhone.
00:06:57.760 The iPhone was really made public in the 90s.
00:06:58.760 It just wasn't to the public because, obviously, technology doesn't get, you know, distributed to the public until it's been tested.
00:07:04.760 That's not an argument.
00:07:05.760 Saying that we haven't gone back does not mean that we'll never win.
00:07:07.760 But why are we not going anymore?
00:07:09.760 We have bigger ambitions now.
00:07:10.760 Elon Musk wants to go to Mars.
00:07:11.760 We're investing the money into different projects.
00:07:13.760 We've already went to the moon.
00:07:14.760 Why risk people's lives to go there again to prove it, to film it already when we already went there?
00:07:17.760 The flag is there.
00:07:18.760 We've proven it.
00:07:19.760 You want to go and risk it.
00:07:20.760 Why do we have to do it?
00:07:21.760 Where's the flag?
00:07:22.760 Where's the flag?
00:07:23.760 It's there?
00:07:24.760 It's on the moon.
00:07:25.760 Where?
00:07:26.760 How do you see it?
00:07:27.760 I was looking at a telescope and see the moon.
00:07:29.760 Look at the Hubble telescope.
00:07:30.760 You can zoom in.
00:07:31.760 You can see the flag.
00:07:32.760 Since then, it's probably evaporated, but there's been pictures of it.
00:07:34.760 You know AI with the way it is right now.
00:07:36.760 I bet there was an AI in 1960s when it was created.
00:07:38.760 But you don't know that.
00:07:39.760 If AI today is the way it is, you don't think that they've had AI for 20, 30 years?
00:07:42.760 Okay.
00:07:43.760 Also, 1960s was way more than 20, 30 years ago.
00:07:45.760 Yo, what are your arguments as to if we went then, why would we go now?
00:07:48.760 If we have iPhone 1, why continue to make iPhone 16?
00:07:51.760 Because technology gets better.
00:07:52.760 What year did we go to the moon?
00:07:54.760 We went to the moon in 1969.
00:07:59.760 What the fuck technology did we have in 1969?
00:08:02.760 What the fuck?
00:08:03.760 We don't know shit about the moon.
00:08:04.760 You're making an argument for me.
00:08:05.760 If we want to get better and better, go to different planets.
00:08:07.760 He said it's real.
00:08:08.760 Go to more planets.
00:08:09.760 He said it's real.
00:08:10.760 I'm saying it's fake.
00:08:11.760 It's real.
00:08:12.760 If we went back then, why aren't we going now with better technology?
00:08:14.760 You just described.
00:08:15.760 If iPhone 1 goes to iPhone 16, we got to get better and better and better.
00:08:18.760 Go to different planets.
00:08:19.760 1969 to 2024?
00:08:21.760 You're telling me I'm going to listen?
00:08:23.760 That guy's dead.
00:08:24.760 Guy who, Lance Armstrong, what's his name?
00:08:26.760 The guy, the astronaut who went to the moon?
00:08:28.760 Neil Armstrong.
00:08:29.760 Neil Armstrong?
00:08:30.760 He's dead.
00:08:31.760 What do you think?
00:08:33.760 Shit.
00:08:34.760 I think it's...
00:08:35.760 What the fuck are you doing?
00:08:36.760 It's real.
00:08:37.760 Of course it's real.
00:08:38.760 Tell me why it's real comedy.
00:08:39.760 Nigga, I don't think it's real, nigga.
00:08:42.760 Well...
00:08:43.760 We swayed him.
00:08:44.760 I don't think it's real.
00:08:45.760 We won.
00:08:46.760 We won.
00:08:47.760 We won.
00:08:48.760 We won.
00:08:49.760 He's supposed to argue for the sake of argument.
00:08:50.760 Ha!
00:08:51.760 That's too long.
00:08:52.760 Paul.
00:08:53.760 Paul.
00:08:54.760 We won.
00:08:55.760 We won, bro.
00:08:56.760 I don't even got to say too much.
00:08:57.760 We won, nigga.
00:08:58.760 We won, won.
00:08:59.760 Can we go LeBron versus Jordan?
00:09:00.760 We got LeBron.
00:09:01.760 Oh, yes.
00:09:02.760 Let's do that.
00:09:03.760 I got Michael Jordan.
00:09:04.760 You trust me.
00:09:05.760 I got Michael Jordan.
00:09:06.760 You're going to have to cut.
00:09:07.760 I will.
00:09:08.760 Michael Jordan.
00:09:09.760 All right, guys.
00:09:10.760 Please don't base it off.
00:09:11.760 I believe that LeBron James is the greatest basketball player to ever leave.
00:09:13.760 Why?
00:09:14.760 Because he's the most dominant player ever.
00:09:16.760 Aside from Shaq, Shaquille O'Neal was obviously the most dominant.
00:09:18.760 But aside from Shaq, all-around player dominance, LeBron James.
00:09:21.760 He's the best at everything.
00:09:22.760 So why do you only have four rings in 20 seasons?
00:09:24.760 So if you want to base it off rings...
00:09:25.760 No, no.
00:09:26.760 If you want to base it off rings, I understand because you guys are older.
00:09:29.760 You're not going to believe me.
00:09:30.760 Michael Jordan got first-rounded before.
00:09:32.760 When Michael Jordan left to go play baseball, his team was still the number one seed
00:09:35.760 with 60-something wins.
00:09:36.760 He had a better team than LeBron.
00:09:37.760 He's always had a better team than LeBron.
00:09:39.760 Right.
00:09:40.760 LeBron never...
00:09:41.760 Michael Jordan never went against the 73-9 Warriors.
00:09:43.760 The greatest...
00:09:44.760 Hold on.
00:09:45.760 The greatest modern-day team of all time.
00:09:47.760 The 73-9 Warriors would have busted the 82-10 Chicago Bulls as...
00:09:50.760 With K.E.
00:09:51.760 Yes, they would have.
00:09:52.760 Hey, hey.
00:09:53.760 The 73-9 Warriors with Kevin Durant would have beat any team ever.
00:09:56.760 Let me ask you a question.
00:09:57.760 That's a fact.
00:09:58.760 Between LeBron and Jordan, who went to a Diddy party?
00:10:00.760 My goal never went to a Diddy party.
00:10:03.760 Michael Jordan's done a bunch of demonic shit.
00:10:05.760 Jordan has never went to a Diddy party.
00:10:06.760 He's not demonic.
00:10:07.760 Why is every...
00:10:08.760 Yes.
00:10:09.760 Michael Jordan's...
00:10:10.760 Michael Jordan got six rings in 13 seasons.
00:10:12.760 Hey, keep cooking.
00:10:13.760 Keep going.
00:10:14.760 He got six rings in 13 seasons.
00:10:15.760 And he never went to a Diddy party.
00:10:16.760 Hold on.
00:10:17.760 How many MVPs do you got?
00:10:18.760 How many MVPs do you got?
00:10:19.760 That's Michael.
00:10:20.760 If you want to base...
00:10:21.760 We got more MVPs than LeBron.
00:10:22.760 If you want to base...
00:10:23.760 More MVPs than LeBron.
00:10:24.760 More more rings.
00:10:25.760 If you want to base off of awards and stuff.
00:10:26.760 Better records.
00:10:27.760 If you want to base...
00:10:28.760 I just told you why, the teams.
00:10:29.760 If you want to base off of rings, then Bill Russell's the greatest player.
00:10:31.760 Now rings.
00:10:32.760 You just said Shannon.
00:10:33.760 You just said rings.
00:10:34.760 Legacy.
00:10:35.760 Legacy is more important, right?
00:10:36.760 I'm not saying that.
00:10:37.760 Is Legacy more important than rings?
00:10:38.760 I'm not saying that.
00:10:39.760 Who's on the NBA logo?
00:10:40.760 Obviously, that's not even Michael Jordan.
00:10:41.760 Do you know who's on the NBA logo?
00:10:42.760 Who's on the NBA logo?
00:10:43.760 It's Jerry West.
00:10:44.760 If Michael Jordan played 24 seasons, he would have had 10 rings by now.
00:10:46.760 Okay, so why didn't...
00:10:47.760 That's not true.
00:10:48.760 He didn't give a fuck.
00:10:49.760 He proved everything he had to do.
00:10:50.760 That's not true.
00:10:51.760 Two triples, nigga.
00:10:52.760 LeBron's not doing it.
00:10:53.760 That's not true, though.
00:10:54.760 LeBron's not doing it.
00:10:55.760 Yes or no?
00:10:56.760 They have a better team than LeBron James.
00:10:57.760 Who?
00:10:58.760 The Bulls.
00:10:59.760 Were they better than LeBron's teams that he's been on?
00:11:00.760 Yes or no?
00:11:01.760 It was like...
00:11:02.760 It was not even.
00:11:03.760 It wasn't.
00:11:04.760 No, it wasn't.
00:11:05.760 LeBron had good teammates.
00:11:06.760 Ask your question.
00:11:07.760 When LeBron left Cleveland, what seed were there?
00:11:09.760 When LeBron left...
00:11:10.760 I don't know.
00:11:11.760 I didn't pay attention to that, but...
00:11:12.760 When Michael Jordan left the Bulls, what seed were there?
00:11:14.760 I don't know.
00:11:15.760 Number one.
00:11:16.760 Number one.
00:11:17.760 They were a better team than LeBron had ever.
00:11:19.760 The only team...
00:11:20.760 We're not talking about teams.
00:11:21.760 We're talking about Michael Jordan and LeBron.
00:11:22.760 But it matters what team.
00:11:23.760 Basketball's a team sport.
00:11:24.760 Yes, it is.
00:11:25.760 Basketball's a team sport.
00:11:26.760 So what are you trying to say?
00:11:27.760 I'm saying that LeBron James is the greatest player ever to touch a basketball.
00:11:30.760 So if he's the greatest, why do you only got four rings in 24 seasons?
00:11:33.760 So Bill Russell's the GOAT then.
00:11:34.760 He has ten rings.
00:11:35.760 He's an amazing player.
00:11:36.760 Bill Russell in today's NBA is not getting...
00:11:39.760 You don't know that.
00:11:40.760 You don't know that, man.
00:11:41.760 You don't know that.
00:11:42.760 Bill Russell today has no jump shot.
00:11:43.760 You don't know that.
00:11:44.760 Okay.
00:11:45.760 The NBA today is harder to dominate because it's the three-point shot.
00:11:48.760 Okay.
00:11:49.760 Centers back in the day, they were all dominant...
00:11:50.760 Oh.
00:11:51.760 They were all dominating based off of being strength and basically going up and all that
00:11:55.760 stuff.
00:11:56.760 Now it's all three-pointers.
00:11:57.760 Now it's all about if you can shoot from 50 feet or 60 feet.
00:11:59.760 He's talking about fucking three-pointers.
00:12:00.760 That's what it happens.
00:12:01.760 Every single center can shoot threes.
00:12:03.760 How many MVP's the Bronco?
00:12:04.760 It doesn't matter about MVP's.
00:12:05.760 No, it doesn't matter.
00:12:06.760 So what about politics though?
00:12:07.760 If you want to base off of what's popular and stuff, I can say some shit like, oh,
00:12:12.760 why do rappers not have this many Grammys?
00:12:13.760 Travis Scott doesn't have a Grammy.
00:12:14.760 I'm basically...
00:12:15.760 What?
00:12:16.760 Travis Scott doesn't have a Grammy.
00:12:17.760 Okay, fine.
00:12:18.760 So awards don't matter, right?
00:12:19.760 They're based on awards.
00:12:20.760 It's a cultural influence.
00:12:21.760 Michael Jordan has the greatest shoes of all time.
00:12:23.760 That's facts.
00:12:24.760 Jordan...
00:12:25.760 If you're letting the fans aside, it's easily Jordan.
00:12:28.760 Can we talk about...
00:12:29.760 Easily Jordan.
00:12:30.760 No, if you want...
00:12:31.760 Who pioneered the number 23?
00:12:32.760 I just told you.
00:12:33.760 If you want to base it off branding, Michael Jordan's number one.
00:12:35.760 Not even branding.
00:12:36.760 What the world thinks.
00:12:37.760 Well, again, he changed basketball.
00:12:38.760 He made basketball popular.
00:12:39.760 Of course.
00:12:40.760 But I'm saying who's a better player for LeBron?
00:12:42.760 I'm saying who's a better player.
00:12:43.760 Who's a better player?
00:12:44.760 How the fuck LeBron played 24 seasons and he only got four?
00:12:46.760 He hasn't played 24 seasons.
00:12:47.760 How has he gotten to the NBA Finals more times than has lost, more times than has won?
00:12:50.760 If he's the greatest player of all time...
00:12:51.760 If he's the greatest player of all time...
00:12:52.760 If he's the greatest player of all time...
00:12:53.760 If he's the greatest player of all time...
00:12:54.760 If he's the greatest player of all time...
00:12:55.760 Okay.
00:12:56.760 If you're like...
00:12:57.760 He's lost more than he's won.
00:12:58.760 Let me tell you how much of a casual order.
00:12:59.760 Who did Michael Jordan lose to in the first round?
00:13:01.760 Bro, I don't remember, bro.
00:13:02.760 How was it alive?
00:13:03.760 Can you tell me about the bad boy Pistons?
00:13:05.760 Do you even know about them?
00:13:06.760 Name three players on the team.
00:13:07.760 Name three players on the team.
00:13:08.760 I didn't talk about anything.
00:13:09.760 I was talking about something completely different.
00:13:10.760 They got fucking read out.
00:13:11.760 And I'll explain to you why.
00:13:12.760 I'll explain...
00:13:13.760 Hold on a second.
00:13:14.760 What?
00:13:15.760 I'll explain to you why LeBron James lost.
00:13:16.760 He went against the greatest coach team of all time.
00:13:18.760 The greatest...
00:13:19.760 The whole...
00:13:20.760 Greg Popovich was the greatest coach ever.
00:13:22.760 One of the greatest coaches.
00:13:23.760 You got Tim Duncan.
00:13:24.760 You have Tony Park here of Ginobili.
00:13:25.760 You have a Kawhi Leonard.
00:13:26.760 Straight out.
00:13:27.760 He's not even...
00:13:28.760 He's on...
00:13:29.760 He's faced on LeBron the entire game.
00:13:30.760 After that, you gotta go into this against the 73-9 Golden State Warriors.
00:13:33.760 Okay?
00:13:34.760 Again, that team is arguably the greatest team of all time.
00:13:37.760 You have the 73-9 Warriors.
00:13:38.760 A prime Klay Thompson.
00:13:39.760 A prime Jam on Green.
00:13:40.760 You have Shawn Livingston.
00:13:41.760 Their bench is amazing.
00:13:42.760 Shawn Livingston didn't miss a mid-range.
00:13:43.760 That entire season.
00:13:44.760 He was a mid-range specialist, okay?
00:13:46.760 You have Steph Curry, obviously.
00:13:47.760 Steph Curry.
00:13:48.760 Steph Curry.
00:13:49.760 You have a bunch of people.
00:13:50.760 They added KD.
00:13:51.760 He's dominating the time.
00:13:52.760 The nigga just talking.
00:13:54.760 Go to Paul.
00:13:55.760 How are you not involving this to me?
00:13:56.760 No, because it was...
00:13:57.760 I'm just trying to give you...
00:13:58.760 Go to Paul.
00:13:59.760 I'm trying to talk to you.
00:14:00.760 Call somebody the best.
00:14:01.760 Let's talk about...
00:14:02.760 Let's talk about...
00:14:03.760 Can we talk about best?
00:14:04.760 Can I talk?
00:14:05.760 Why do you think they call Messi or Ronaldo the best?
00:14:06.760 Because they want everything.
00:14:07.760 That doesn't matter.
00:14:08.760 They only have four rings!
00:14:09.760 So Ronaldo just loves it.
00:14:10.760 There's multiple players with four rings.
00:14:11.760 Four rings don't define greatness.
00:14:12.760 All right.
00:14:13.760 Michael's doing it.
00:14:14.760 Please do it.
00:14:15.760 I'm going to go where you are.
00:14:16.760 Hold on, hold on.
00:14:17.760 Please.
00:14:18.760 Let's talk about who Michael's going to play against.
00:14:19.760 He played against Magic Johnson who had AIDS.
00:14:21.760 What does that have to do with basketball?
00:14:22.760 Because he has AIDS.
00:14:24.760 He obviously...
00:14:25.760 He had AIDS at the time.
00:14:26.760 He wasn't playing 10 out of 10 Magic Johnson.
00:14:28.760 He went against a Karl Malone.
00:14:30.760 Karl Malone and fucking John Stockton and all that.
00:14:33.760 Yeah, that team was shit, bro.
00:14:34.760 That team wasn't even good at all.
00:14:36.760 Right now...
00:14:37.760 Karl Malone?
00:14:38.760 Yeah.
00:14:39.760 If I play down with today's NBA, he would not be good.
00:14:40.760 Do you think he'd be good?
00:14:41.760 Do you think...
00:14:42.760 Let me ask you a question.
00:14:43.760 Do you think Bill Ross, do you think Karl Malone, do you think these players would
00:14:44.760 be at all?
00:14:45.760 Yes.
00:14:46.760 Do you think they'd be all-stars?
00:14:47.760 Yes.
00:14:48.760 With the way they played.
00:14:49.760 You think they'd be all-stars?
00:14:50.760 You think they'd be dominant in the NBA?
00:14:51.760 Not dominant, but they'd be all-stars.
00:14:52.760 Well, they were dominant back in the day?
00:14:53.760 Absolutely dominant.
00:14:54.760 You think so?
00:14:55.760 Absolutely.
00:14:56.760 Oh wait, how old are you?
00:14:57.760 I'm 40.
00:14:58.760 He's seen no play, so I don't know.
00:14:59.760 No, NBA...
00:15:00.760 Chad, do you guys believe those...
00:15:01.760 Chad, pull up, Chad.
00:15:02.760 This shit is...
00:15:03.760 This basketball...
00:15:04.760 The basketball back then was different.
00:15:06.760 The basketball...
00:15:07.760 Yeah, it's different.
00:15:08.760 I agree.
00:15:09.760 I agree with that.
00:15:10.760 But what I'm saying...
00:15:11.760 Back then it was...
00:15:12.760 Foul.
00:15:13.760 Now they do...
00:15:14.760 They spin.
00:15:15.760 Foul.
00:15:16.760 They draw you.
00:15:17.760 Foul.
00:15:18.760 It's a harder game.
00:15:19.760 It's a harder game because you have to create space.
00:15:20.760 It's fast, right?
00:15:21.760 Foul rate though.
00:15:22.760 They gotta...
00:15:23.760 They can't be...
00:15:24.760 Like back then...
00:15:25.760 It was a more fizzle somebody...
00:15:26.760 It was a more fizzle...
00:15:27.760 It was a more fizzle...
00:15:28.760 It was a more fizzle...
00:15:29.760 It was a more fizzle...
00:15:30.760 It was a more fizzle...
00:15:31.760 But who went to the Diddy party?
00:15:32.760 What the fizzle...
00:15:33.760 Michael Jordan's done a lot of crazy shit too.
00:15:35.760 Oh.
00:15:36.760 Michael Jordan had gambling...
00:15:37.760 And that caused him...
00:15:38.760 Throw up the pole.
00:15:39.760 Throw up the pole.
00:15:40.760 I'm saying...
00:15:41.760 Your argument is rings.
00:15:42.760 Your argument...
00:15:43.760 You guys can do it both.
00:15:44.760 Your argument is rings.
00:15:45.760 Rings don't define greatness.
00:15:46.760 I'm sorry.
00:15:47.760 Let's go, Kami!
00:15:48.760 Oh, I had better...
00:15:49.760 I had better points.
00:15:50.760 He couldn't even name who we went against!
00:15:51.760 So you get cashed...
00:15:52.760 You're supposed to know who we went against!
00:15:53.760 I know all about who we went against!
00:15:55.760 Come on, Kami!
00:15:56.760 Let's go!
00:15:57.760 That's just bias!
00:15:58.760 Let's go!
00:15:59.760 Come on, Chad!
00:16:00.760 Kami, depression's not real, right?
00:16:01.760 What do you guys think?
00:16:02.760 It's not about what you guys think.
00:16:03.760 It's about what we're debating.
00:16:04.760 Depression's not real.
00:16:05.760 You just gotta debate.
00:16:06.760 You guys chose that here.
00:16:07.760 You don't think it's real.
00:16:08.760 Oh my gosh!
00:16:09.760 Let's do it.
00:16:10.760 No, let's do it.
00:16:11.760 Come on.
00:16:12.760 Let's see if you can debate and change our minds.
00:16:13.760 That's how we change...
00:16:14.760 Okay.
00:16:15.760 Explain to me why you think depression is real.
00:16:16.760 Depression is a chemical imbalance that people have in their brains.
00:16:17.760 What's the evidence for that?
00:16:18.760 I mean, it's literally known.
00:16:20.760 No, it's not.
00:16:21.760 It was actually disproven two years ago.
00:16:22.760 There is no chemical imbalance.
00:16:23.760 See, who proved that?
00:16:24.760 That was a theory that people spread around like from 2015 to 2020.
00:16:29.760 They've since disproven that there's no chemical imbalance.
00:16:31.760 The brain scans cannot prove that depression means that there's something that you can catch.
00:16:35.760 Wait, wait, shh!
00:16:36.760 Chemical imbalance implies that it's something that you just catch randomly.
00:16:38.760 There could be a state of depression.
00:16:40.760 You can be sad.
00:16:41.760 It's an emotion.
00:16:42.760 I'll ask you a question.
00:16:43.760 So do you believe that things in like America, I'm just going to say, it's a perfect example.
00:16:48.760 Americans are really depressed.
00:16:49.760 It's because we eat shitty foods.
00:16:51.760 We have...
00:16:52.760 No, no.
00:16:53.760 Okay.
00:16:54.760 Keep going.
00:16:55.760 Keep going.
00:16:56.760 Okay.
00:16:57.760 Shitty foods.
00:16:58.760 Yeah.
00:16:59.760 We're...
00:17:00.760 We're unhealthy, all this stuff.
00:17:01.760 Right.
00:17:02.760 We have bad habits and all that.
00:17:03.760 You know, we're surrounded by electronics.
00:17:04.760 All this stuff.
00:17:05.760 We're constantly being stimulated.
00:17:06.760 Right.
00:17:07.760 Do you believe that that causes depression?
00:17:08.760 You just made a bunch of evidence for my point.
00:17:10.760 That doesn't mean that you have a chemical about you depressed.
00:17:13.760 That means you have a shitty diet.
00:17:14.760 You're fat.
00:17:15.760 You're overweight.
00:17:16.760 But it makes you feel not good up here.
00:17:17.760 Guess what?
00:17:18.760 Stop eating shitty foods and do better things for yourself and you're going to get out of
00:17:20.760 that.
00:17:21.760 But some people can do that like him and find help and it's...
00:17:23.760 Let me know when you want me to cook.
00:17:25.760 Yeah.
00:17:26.760 He was actually depressed.
00:17:27.760 Go ahead.
00:17:28.760 Okay.
00:17:29.760 What was that last point you just made right now?
00:17:30.760 That you could be in a state of depression.
00:17:32.760 Wait, wait.
00:17:33.760 You...
00:17:34.760 A state of sadness.
00:17:35.760 The sentence you just said is there are things you can do to get out of it.
00:17:38.760 Is that what you said?
00:17:39.760 Correct.
00:17:40.760 What is it?
00:17:41.760 Depression.
00:17:42.760 Sadness.
00:17:43.760 What is depression?
00:17:44.760 Depression is a word that people use to describe depression.
00:17:46.760 You tell me how before we even start.
00:17:47.760 That's your question.
00:17:48.760 Yeah.
00:17:49.760 Before we get there, I'm sorry.
00:17:50.760 We're a little too far.
00:17:51.760 Can I start from the beginning?
00:17:52.760 Okay.
00:17:53.760 What is depression to you?
00:17:54.760 Depression is what people believe that they're in a perpetual state of sadness, but
00:17:57.760 they can't snap out of it.
00:17:58.760 It's a belief more than it is a chemical imbalance.
00:18:01.760 Does them not being able to snap out of it make it real?
00:18:04.760 Snap out of it.
00:18:05.760 It's a thing.
00:18:06.760 Right now, the argument...
00:18:07.760 I'm not even going to get into talking about it.
00:18:09.760 I could cook right now for fucking days.
00:18:11.760 I'm asking you on the most basic of levels.
00:18:13.760 What's your question?
00:18:14.760 If they're...
00:18:15.760 What's it?
00:18:16.760 If they can fall into a state of sadness, right?
00:18:18.760 What we can call depression, what depression is.
00:18:20.760 It's something that they're getting out of, thus making it a real thing.
00:18:23.760 An emotion.
00:18:24.760 It's something we're talking about.
00:18:25.760 That's like being in a state of anger.
00:18:26.760 So if the argument is, is depression real?
00:18:27.760 Yes.
00:18:28.760 It's an emotion to you.
00:18:29.760 Right.
00:18:30.760 But it's real.
00:18:31.760 My point of contention is that it's not a chemical imbalance.
00:18:32.760 It's something you just catch.
00:18:33.760 There's always circumstances that you need to get out of to get out of that sadness.
00:18:36.760 Is schizophrenia real?
00:18:37.760 Of course.
00:18:38.760 Okay.
00:18:39.760 Yeah.
00:18:40.760 And what causes that in the brain?
00:18:42.760 That's more complicated than depression.
00:18:43.760 That's a separate argument.
00:18:44.760 That's more complicated, but does the brain have the ability to break off cognitive functions
00:18:49.760 and turn into and be used some way else based on the wiring that it's wired?
00:18:53.760 Okay.
00:18:54.760 Are we arguing about schizophrenia?
00:18:55.760 We're getting to depression.
00:18:56.760 Okay.
00:18:57.760 Ask me a depression question.
00:18:58.760 I'm saying schizophrenia is real.
00:18:59.760 Okay.
00:19:00.760 And how is depression not?
00:19:02.760 If schizophrenia is able to be real, why is depression not?
00:19:05.760 Because I agree with your partner Aiden.
00:19:06.760 Aiden is saying that you can have shitty food, you can be watching porn, you can be putting
00:19:09.760 bad things into your body.
00:19:10.760 And you can fall into a state of depression by doing so.
00:19:12.760 By doing that.
00:19:13.760 That's what I'm saying.
00:19:14.760 And then you can snap out of it.
00:19:15.760 Correct.
00:19:16.760 But it's not a bad impression.
00:19:17.760 I'll snap out of it.
00:19:18.760 What's it though?
00:19:19.760 What's it?
00:19:20.760 I'll snap out of it.
00:19:21.760 It's an emotion.
00:19:22.760 Depression is nothing more than an emotion.
00:19:23.760 So where's the argument?
00:19:24.760 You're talking, depression is an emotion.
00:19:25.760 That's something.
00:19:26.760 So it's real.
00:19:27.760 The belief that people have is that depression is something that you catch like a disease.
00:19:28.760 You can.
00:19:29.760 No.
00:19:30.760 You can.
00:19:31.760 There's no evidence supporting that.
00:19:32.760 You can.
00:19:33.760 Okay.
00:19:34.760 Why?
00:19:35.760 I'm not putting up like scientific based things like this, but I can't tell you this.
00:19:38.760 You can't hear about that idea.
00:19:39.760 No, because I've experienced this one.
00:19:40.760 So you're talking about how you feel your feelings?
00:19:41.760 How I feel.
00:19:42.760 What did you say your depression was?
00:19:43.760 I said you're making an emotional argument.
00:19:44.760 What did you say your depression was?
00:19:45.760 A feeling.
00:19:46.760 No.
00:19:47.760 I've experienced it.
00:19:48.760 I felt it.
00:19:49.760 The moment it happened, I knew that I said the blood in my, like literally flowing through
00:19:53.760 me, I'm in a depression.
00:19:54.760 I felt it come on.
00:19:55.760 I felt it happen to me.
00:19:56.760 As four men, we should not make emotional arguments.
00:19:58.760 What?
00:19:59.760 I'm not going to.
00:20:00.760 Now I won't make emotional arguments.
00:20:01.760 I'll say this.
00:20:02.760 Listen to this.
00:20:03.760 Right now, there are two kinds of depression, right?
00:20:06.760 There can be one that can be brought on.
00:20:07.760 If you don't want to use the word chemically, brought on by the brain.
00:20:10.760 Something where it needs fixing and it does need medicine to get it out of something.
00:20:14.760 It needs more of something or it needs less of something.
00:20:16.760 You don't have to call it chemical imbalance, but you can fall into depression that way.
00:20:19.760 But you can also fall into a depression by life going bad.
00:20:23.760 You losing your job, falling under financial stress, gaining weight, doing something you
00:20:28.760 shouldn't do.
00:20:29.760 All of a sudden you don't want to get out of bed.
00:20:30.760 In the same way we can reach euphoria by being so happy and we can feel excitement and
00:20:35.760 joy.
00:20:36.760 Life is a polarity.
00:20:37.760 There's two sides of every single thing.
00:20:39.760 So if there's that ecstasy that we can feel, there is that depression that we can feel
00:20:43.760 that is so fucking dark.
00:20:44.760 You can feel anything.
00:20:45.760 I can feel pain.
00:20:46.760 Have you ever been depressed?
00:20:47.760 Of course.
00:20:48.760 I've been sad.
00:20:49.760 You said you've been depressed.
00:20:50.760 Sad and depression are the same words.
00:20:52.760 You're saying that it's a state that you can't get out of.
00:20:54.760 I'm saying it's just an emotion.
00:20:55.760 This state that I'm describing, right?
00:20:57.760 The pit of despair that I was in this year.
00:21:01.760 You're just finding a really extravagant way to describe sadness.
00:21:04.760 Pit of despair, sadness, what's the difference?
00:21:06.760 If it's, but that's depression.
00:21:08.760 Being sad.
00:21:09.760 Is it more than-
00:21:10.760 Sad is a deep state.
00:21:11.760 Being, sorry, being depressed is a deep state of being sad, like a deeper state.
00:21:15.760 Like it's deep.
00:21:16.760 Like it's-
00:21:17.760 Depression means a lot of things.
00:21:18.760 It's pretty much the same thing.
00:21:19.760 A lot of things.
00:21:20.760 Being sad is like a current, like, oh, I feel sad because of this.
00:21:23.760 But being depressed, like, oh, fuck, I'm depressed.
00:21:25.760 It's like, it's, it's like way deep.
00:21:26.760 It's like a way deeper-
00:21:27.760 People who say that though, oh, fuck, I'm depressed.
00:21:29.760 They believe that it's something that they caught and that they can't get out of.
00:21:32.760 You know what my argument is?
00:21:33.760 You know what my argument is?
00:21:34.760 I've been in the best shape fucking ever.
00:21:37.760 Fucking shredded and depressed.
00:21:39.760 Fucking miserable.
00:21:40.760 Miserable.
00:21:41.760 So going to the gym, taking cold showers, hanging out with people doesn't get you out of the state you're in, which is called depression.
00:21:47.760 That's the state it's in.
00:21:49.760 It's not, it's not, it's everything in life.
00:21:51.760 It's doing everything you're supposed to be doing.
00:21:53.760 Correct.
00:21:54.760 But to, to not catch what?
00:21:56.760 Depression.
00:21:57.760 Let's hear Kambi speak why depression isn't real.
00:22:01.760 Depression is a natural reaction to not doing what you're supposed to do.
00:22:03.760 I need to hear your partner.
00:22:04.760 It's, it's, you know, but you're defining what depression is.
00:22:07.760 That's real.
00:22:09.760 He's defining what depression is.
00:22:10.760 That means it's weird.
00:22:11.760 He admitted it.
00:22:12.760 He just said, I've been depressed before.
00:22:13.760 You just said I was depressed.
00:22:14.760 It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's the same word.
00:22:16.760 It's a synonym of sadness.
00:22:17.760 Depressing is a demonic state.
00:22:18.760 That's how simple it is.
00:22:19.760 It's demonic state, depression.
00:22:20.760 Okay.
00:22:21.760 So can you please, so, so depression is real.
00:22:24.760 It's a demonic state.
00:22:25.760 But can you explain what that means?
00:22:26.760 Because you're, you're saying that.
00:22:27.760 Demonic state or not.
00:22:28.760 No, no, don't whisper.
00:22:29.760 Let him speak for himself, Nico.
00:22:30.760 It's not a chemical imbalance.
00:22:31.760 What?
00:22:32.760 It's a chemical imbalance?
00:22:33.760 It's not a chemical imbalance.
00:22:34.760 It is.
00:22:35.760 It's not a chemical imbalance.
00:22:36.760 Do you know what a chemical imbalance is in your brain?
00:22:37.760 We're not talking about chemical imbalance.
00:22:39.760 Give three chemicals that go off in your brain.
00:22:41.760 Receptors.
00:22:42.760 No.
00:22:43.760 Yeah.
00:22:44.760 But this counts.
00:22:45.760 You make a great point.
00:22:46.760 It's a demonic state.
00:22:47.760 So if you're doing everything you're supposed to be doing.
00:22:48.760 If you're around your family.
00:22:49.760 Dude, is everything a demonic state?
00:22:50.760 Not true.
00:22:51.760 Not true.
00:22:52.760 Not true.
00:22:53.760 Let me answer.
00:22:54.760 If you are saying consistent with your prayers.
00:22:56.760 You're eating properly.
00:22:57.760 You're not putting bad things into your body.
00:22:58.760 You can still be depressed.
00:22:59.760 Your mind is focused.
00:23:00.760 You're doing the right things.
00:23:01.760 You're getting sun.
00:23:02.760 You can still be depressed.
00:23:03.760 You're working hard towards something.
00:23:04.760 You are not going to be depressed.
00:23:05.760 But that's a personal thing.
00:23:06.760 That's why it's a new thing.
00:23:07.760 You've never experienced that.
00:23:08.760 Sadness is real.
00:23:09.760 Depression is not a disease that you catch.
00:23:10.760 That was a point of contention.
00:23:11.760 It's not true bro.
00:23:12.760 It's not true bro.
00:23:13.760 It's not true.
00:23:14.760 Hundreds of years before.
00:23:15.760 People never just.
00:23:16.760 It would be sad.
00:23:17.760 There would be something wrong in their life.
00:23:18.760 Your argument is.
00:23:19.760 Hell no.
00:23:20.760 Depression isn't real.
00:23:21.760 Your argument is how to get out of depression.
00:23:22.760 Facts.
00:23:23.760 Being depressed.
00:23:24.760 You're admitting it's real.
00:23:25.760 Look, you're admitting it's real though.
00:23:26.760 You started off by saying it's a chemical.
00:23:27.760 But you're admitting it's real.
00:23:28.760 You're admitting it's real.
00:23:29.760 You're admitting it's real.
00:23:30.760 You're just saying you can get out of it.
00:23:31.760 Sadness is real.
00:23:32.760 Depression is not a disease that you catch.
00:23:34.760 That was a point of contention.
00:23:35.760 Nobody said it's a disease.
00:23:36.760 Nobody called it a disease.
00:23:37.760 Sadness is a chemical imbalance.
00:23:41.760 You're saying as if it's something you catch.
00:23:43.760 It doesn't.
00:23:44.760 I never said it.
00:23:45.760 Your brain is being wired.
00:23:46.760 I never said that you catch it like a disease.
00:23:47.760 Your brain scans don't.
00:23:48.760 But is depression real?
00:23:49.760 There's no brain scans.
00:23:50.760 Is depression real?
00:23:51.760 Is the state of depression real?
00:23:53.760 Not the way that people.
00:23:55.760 Not the way you're describing it.
00:23:56.760 No.
00:23:57.760 Is the state of depression real?
00:23:58.760 A whole different argument.
00:23:59.760 A whole different argument.
00:24:00.760 A whole different argument.
00:24:01.760 You just don't like.
00:24:02.760 You can be sad.
00:24:03.760 You can be sad.
00:24:04.760 But that's a current state.
00:24:06.760 I'm asking is depression real?
00:24:08.760 Is the state of depression real?
00:24:09.760 That question is flawed.
00:24:10.760 That's like saying can you be angry?
00:24:12.760 Can you be hungry?
00:24:13.760 Yeah, of course.
00:24:14.760 The state of hunger is a yes or no.
00:24:15.760 Can you be depressed?
00:24:16.760 But that's a silly question.
00:24:17.760 Your argument.
00:24:18.760 His argument is how to get out.
00:24:19.760 That's the question.
00:24:20.760 Exactly.
00:24:21.760 Pull it.
00:24:22.760 Pull it.
00:24:23.760 Pull it.
00:24:24.760 Pull it.
00:24:25.760 Pull it.
00:24:26.760 Pull it.
00:24:27.760 Not a chemical imbalance.
00:24:28.760 Yo, we won that one.
00:24:29.760 We won that one.
00:24:30.760 That was the closest one.
00:24:31.760 We're still up 3-2.
00:24:32.760 It was about to win.
00:24:33.760 3-2.
00:24:34.760 First to five.
00:24:35.760 You won one before this.
00:24:36.760 It was 3-1.
00:24:37.760 I was 3-2.
00:24:38.760 You're down 3-1.
00:24:39.760 You're down 3-1.
00:24:40.760 No, it's 3-2.
00:24:41.760 I won the back of Jordan one.
00:24:42.760 I'll go gay son.
00:24:43.760 Someone said gay son or Christian son?
00:24:44.760 What the fuck?
00:24:45.760 Okay.
00:24:46.760 Let's do gay son daughter.
00:24:47.760 Let Fousey choose.
00:24:48.760 Oh, you choose me.
00:24:49.760 Gay son.
00:24:50.760 Fat daughter.
00:24:51.760 Gay son.
00:24:52.760 Give him gay son.
00:24:53.760 Give him gay son because obviously you don't have an opinion.
00:24:55.760 And you're going to get fat daughter?
00:24:56.760 What?
00:24:57.760 Yeah.
00:24:58.760 It's easy to argue for gay son.
00:24:59.760 We got fat daughter.
00:25:00.760 I know you're going to say.
00:25:01.760 What?
00:25:02.760 I think gay son wins.
00:25:03.760 How?
00:25:04.760 Okay, so arguments.
00:25:05.760 Because I know what his argument is going to be.
00:25:06.760 It's a pussy, bro.
00:25:07.760 Nah.
00:25:08.760 Oh, this one.
00:25:09.760 I can't.
00:25:10.760 Ah, fuck.
00:25:11.760 I know why.
00:25:12.760 So I could win this one, but I can't argue it.
00:25:13.760 So should we just do gay son?
00:25:14.760 Huh?
00:25:15.760 No, no, no.
00:25:16.760 I already got gay son.
00:25:17.760 Well, there's a reason why.
00:25:18.760 I know.
00:25:19.760 Continuation from my last debate.
00:25:20.760 You said that you want your daughter to go with the spears and get fucked and do all
00:25:22.760 this stuff before they realize what they need to do.
00:25:24.760 So it's a continuation.
00:25:25.760 That's what you said last time.
00:25:26.760 That's different.
00:25:27.760 My debate with you last time was a lot better.
00:25:28.760 Can we just debate that instead?
00:25:30.760 Redebate that with you?
00:25:31.760 No, no, no, no.
00:25:32.760 Gay son thought daughter.
00:25:33.760 Ah, fuck it.
00:25:34.760 Do you want that?
00:25:35.760 It's just, I know exactly what he's going to say.
00:25:37.760 Come on.
00:25:38.760 Fuck it.
00:25:39.760 Come on.
00:25:40.760 All right.
00:25:41.760 Start it off.
00:25:42.760 Okay.
00:25:43.760 So why would you want a thought daughter?
00:25:44.760 You want a whore daughter?
00:25:45.760 Are you right?
00:25:46.760 Like if God gave you a daughter, she's going to be a fucking whore.
00:25:47.760 He's not getting fucked in the ass.
00:25:48.760 Because he can get out of that.
00:25:49.760 By the way, my gay son is going to be doing the fucking.
00:25:50.760 He's not getting fucked.
00:25:51.760 You don't know that.
00:25:52.760 Wow.
00:25:53.760 He might want to try it.
00:25:54.760 No, no.
00:25:55.760 He might want dick in his butt.
00:25:56.760 My gay son.
00:25:57.760 First off, first off.
00:25:58.760 The gay son.
00:25:59.760 You don't know.
00:26:00.760 It's a 50-50.
00:26:01.760 If he's getting fucked or doing the fucking.
00:26:02.760 No, they do both.
00:26:03.760 If you have a whore.
00:26:04.760 Ask gay people.
00:26:05.760 Ask gay people.
00:26:06.760 I've talked gay people.
00:26:07.760 They say they do both.
00:26:08.760 I don't know what you do.
00:26:09.760 But I'm saying.
00:26:10.760 Gay people, usually it's 50-50.
00:26:11.760 That's not worse.
00:26:12.760 One is the fucker.
00:26:13.760 There's a 100% chance of not getting fucked.
00:26:14.760 Let me switch off.
00:26:15.760 If you have a thought daughter, there's a 100% chance that she's getting fucked.
00:26:18.760 I'd rather take the 50% chance any day.
00:26:21.760 I'll take the 50% any day.
00:26:22.760 That's fine.
00:26:23.760 So I can speak on thought daughter.
00:26:24.760 And she's shaming your family.
00:26:25.760 So I can speak on.
00:26:26.760 So is the gay son.
00:26:27.760 Technically, if you want to go there.
00:26:28.760 Yeah, but he can keep it private.
00:26:29.760 If a girl's a thought, everybody knows.
00:26:30.760 She's running around in public.
00:26:31.760 Everyone's gossiping about it.
00:26:32.760 Because your gay son is going to be doing the braids and shit.
00:26:35.760 And that's fine.
00:26:36.760 He's going to be wearing the shirt.
00:26:37.760 No, he's not.
00:26:38.760 But you don't even know.
00:26:39.760 You're not making a convinced statement.
00:26:41.760 You don't know me.
00:26:42.760 I'm trying to.
00:26:43.760 The amount of gay people that even go to the park.
00:26:44.760 It's like what?
00:26:45.760 20, 30% of them are all doing this.
00:26:46.760 Most of them are undercover.
00:26:47.760 You don't even know.
00:26:48.760 Most gay people.
00:26:49.760 Not anymore.
00:26:50.760 Not anymore.
00:26:51.760 Most gay people.
00:26:52.760 Not anymore.
00:26:53.760 Everybody knows.
00:26:55.760 Everybody shames the father.
00:26:57.760 I actually don't want to talk about this topic anymore.
00:26:58.760 We want it.
00:26:59.760 We want it already.
00:27:00.760 You don't want to talk about it.
00:27:01.760 The whole world shames the daughter.
00:27:02.760 Bullet.
00:27:03.760 Bullet.
00:27:04.760 Bullet.
00:27:05.760 Bullet.
00:27:06.760 Bullet.
00:27:07.760 His sins are forgiven.
00:27:08.760 And people aren't going to shame him.
00:27:09.760 He's not going to convert.
00:27:10.760 Of course.
00:27:11.760 Once he finds God.
00:27:12.760 But once your thought daughter finds God.
00:27:13.760 Wow.
00:27:14.760 So you're saying gay people don't have God in their life?
00:27:15.760 No.
00:27:16.760 Of course they don't.
00:27:17.760 Most of them don't.
00:27:18.760 Most of them don't.
00:27:19.760 But once they relinquish.
00:27:20.760 They don't?
00:27:21.760 They could.
00:27:22.760 No, they could.
00:27:23.760 They could.
00:27:24.760 You could still sin and be gay.
00:27:25.760 But once they relinquish their past.
00:27:26.760 But it's the same to do a bunch of things.
00:27:27.760 People are not going to shame the gay son.
00:27:28.760 I can't.
00:27:29.760 I could win this one.
00:27:30.760 But I can't.
00:27:31.760 I'm not getting.
00:27:32.760 I'm not getting.
00:27:33.760 I'm not getting.
00:27:34.760 I got to get a ban.
00:27:35.760 What's that 4-2?
00:27:36.760 Yeah, I'm not.
00:27:37.760 I can't.
00:27:38.760 4-2 in a point.
00:27:39.760 It's not worth it.
00:27:40.760 It's not worth it for me.
00:27:41.760 Not 4-2.
00:27:42.760 Not 4-2.
00:27:43.760 Not 4-2.
00:27:44.760 Not 4-2.
00:27:45.760 Not 4-2.
00:27:46.760 Not 4-2.
00:27:47.760 Chat, all of you are gay too.
00:27:48.760 You just voted for a gay son.
00:27:49.760 That is crazy.
00:27:50.760 What's wrong with you, man?
00:27:51.760 Gay ass chat.
00:27:52.760 3-2.
00:27:53.760 3-2.
00:27:54.760 3-2.
00:27:55.760 3-2.
00:27:56.760 Who I hit 4-2.
00:27:57.760 Who I hit 4-2.
00:27:58.760 Who I hit 4-2.
00:27:59.760 I don't want to do this one.
00:28:00.760 Why?
00:28:01.760 Because it's free Palestine all fucking day.
00:28:03.760 It's amazing.
00:28:04.760 There's no.
00:28:05.760 There's no.
00:28:06.760 It's a segment.
00:28:07.760 We're not taking it seriously.
00:28:08.760 Yeah, but this one is too close to home.
00:28:09.760 You know.
00:28:10.760 Emotional arguments so you can't have a debate like a professional?
00:28:12.760 Come on.
00:28:13.760 When it comes to full esteem.
00:28:14.760 I don't even talk about it on my stream because of how like.
00:28:17.760 You go to protest for free.
00:28:18.760 Let's not do it, bro.
00:28:19.760 It's a real life problem in the world.
00:28:20.760 I don't think we should talk about it for real.
00:28:21.760 Yeah.
00:28:22.760 You want to take.
00:28:23.760 I gave you guys the winning side and you're still running?
00:28:25.760 It's up to you.
00:28:26.760 I think it's 5-2 now.
00:28:27.760 You just forfeited.
00:28:28.760 No.
00:28:29.760 Pick another one.
00:28:30.760 I don't think that's a good idea.
00:28:31.760 I don't even want to.
00:28:33.760 It's.
00:28:34.760 Look.
00:28:35.760 And here's what I always say.
00:28:36.760 Look.
00:28:37.760 The reason I wouldn't argue it and why.
00:28:38.760 Where I'm at with it.
00:28:39.760 My sister's on the front lines.
00:28:40.760 This is all she does, right?
00:28:41.760 Yeah.
00:28:42.760 She knows politics.
00:28:43.760 I know Palestine.
00:28:44.760 I'm humanitarian side.
00:28:45.760 My blood is Palestinian.
00:28:47.760 My dad was born in Palestine.
00:28:49.760 He grew up in Palestine.
00:28:50.760 He got kicked out.
00:28:52.760 This is my answer.
00:28:53.760 Listen.
00:28:54.760 I'm listening.
00:28:55.760 But.
00:28:56.760 So I know it from a very deep personal.
00:28:57.760 I've been to Palestine in 1996 in the year 2000.
00:28:59.760 We're not.
00:29:00.760 This is a.
00:29:01.760 My whole point is.
00:29:02.760 Um.
00:29:03.760 Fuck.
00:29:04.760 Don't forget the point.
00:29:05.760 This is the same argument.
00:29:06.760 I don't know enough politics.
00:29:07.760 So I can't sit here and politically argue Palestine.
00:29:09.760 You know genocide's wrong.
00:29:10.760 Of course.
00:29:11.760 You have the winning side.
00:29:12.760 Go.
00:29:13.760 Go.
00:29:14.760 Go.
00:29:15.760 I guess that is my point.
00:29:16.760 You can't say that.
00:29:17.760 I was born in Palestine.
00:29:18.760 I can't see that.
00:29:19.760 Then they're going to vote.
00:29:20.760 You can't see that.
00:29:21.760 He just said we got the winning side.
00:29:22.760 Don't go bro.
00:29:23.760 Just do another one bro.
00:29:24.760 Come on.
00:29:25.760 Someone knows.
00:29:26.760 You're going to lose it.
00:29:27.760 Don't do it.
00:29:28.760 Don't do it.
00:29:29.760 Just do another one.
00:29:30.760 I'll just give you the argument.
00:29:31.760 Is that.
00:29:32.760 If we're going to go and blame.
00:29:33.760 The Israelis for taking the land.
00:29:34.760 And committing genocide.
00:29:35.760 Americans right now.
00:29:36.760 We did the same exact thing.
00:29:37.760 To the Native Americans.
00:29:38.760 And there's the problem.
00:29:39.760 Like if we're going to say that.
00:29:40.760 Then we should give up.
00:29:41.760 American land back to the Native Americans.
00:29:42.760 And say we genocided these people.
00:29:44.760 They deserve their land back.
00:29:45.760 The people that flip off.
00:29:46.760 The Native Americans with long hair.
00:29:47.760 And stuff like that.
00:29:48.760 That look like.
00:29:49.760 Alcoholics in casinos all day.
00:29:50.760 This is your argument.
00:29:51.760 That's the argument.
00:29:52.760 Is what America did.
00:29:53.760 To the Native Americans wrong.
00:29:54.760 It's the same.
00:29:55.760 Yeah of course.
00:29:56.760 Is it wrong.
00:29:57.760 Yes.
00:29:58.760 Is what Israel is doing wrong then.
00:30:00.760 In that argument.
00:30:01.760 Yeah.
00:30:02.760 Yeah.
00:30:03.760 But we're saying we're all hypocrites.
00:30:04.760 There you go.
00:30:05.760 And throughout history.
00:30:06.760 We won already.
00:30:07.760 You just conceded.
00:30:08.760 No I'm not conceding.
00:30:09.760 I'm saying we're all.
00:30:10.760 You conceded.
00:30:11.760 You just said it wrong.
00:30:12.760 The point is you can't take a moral high ground.
00:30:13.760 If throughout the world.
00:30:14.760 Everybody is colonized everywhere.
00:30:15.760 We've all displaced.
00:30:16.760 We've all changed places.
00:30:17.760 There's winners and losers.
00:30:18.760 The Americans.
00:30:19.760 The people that came here from Europe.
00:30:20.760 They destroyed genocide.
00:30:21.760 It's red flu to all the natives.
00:30:22.760 We won.
00:30:23.760 And now we're enjoying the fruits of the labor in America.
00:30:24.760 So because it's happened before.
00:30:25.760 It doesn't matter if it's happening again.
00:30:26.760 We're not.
00:30:27.760 We don't have to talk about the past.
00:30:29.760 And talk about Native Americans in America.
00:30:31.760 What do you live?
00:30:32.760 All we got to talk about is what's happening right now.
00:30:34.760 Okay.
00:30:35.760 While I'm still alive.
00:30:36.760 Right.
00:30:37.760 Palestine is being genocided.
00:30:38.760 Yeah they are.
00:30:39.760 Right now.
00:30:40.760 Where do you live?
00:30:41.760 America.
00:30:42.760 Yeah.
00:30:43.760 You're a colonizer too.
00:30:44.760 So if you can't have a moral high ground about what's happening there.
00:30:45.760 I can't.
00:30:46.760 No.
00:30:47.760 I can't.
00:30:48.760 So we.
00:30:49.760 That's such a far argument.
00:30:50.760 That's such a far argument.
00:30:51.760 You are weaving the fruits of the labor of the same thing.
00:30:52.760 Of the colonizers that won.
00:30:53.760 My father was forced to leave.
00:30:54.760 He had to come to America.
00:30:55.760 He was born in Palestine.
00:30:56.760 But guess what?
00:30:57.760 Where's Palestine now?
00:30:58.760 You're a grown man.
00:30:59.760 Where do you currently live?
00:31:00.760 I live in.
00:31:01.760 California.
00:31:02.760 Where my father got kicked to.
00:31:03.760 My friend.
00:31:04.760 You can move.
00:31:05.760 Where my father got kicked to.
00:31:06.760 You can move.
00:31:07.760 Where?
00:31:08.760 Why don't you give up your house and give it to a Native American?
00:31:09.760 I don't even know the history.
00:31:10.760 Like look respectfully.
00:31:11.760 It's the same thing that happened.
00:31:12.760 I don't.
00:31:13.760 I don't.
00:31:14.760 I need to.
00:31:15.760 I need to look into that.
00:31:16.760 Respectfully I need to look into that.
00:31:17.760 If you're going to follow that logic.
00:31:18.760 Give your house to a Native American.
00:31:19.760 No.
00:31:20.760 I don't know the history behind that.
00:31:21.760 I don't know the history.
00:31:22.760 I have to check it.
00:31:23.760 You're telling me Israel's right.
00:31:24.760 You're telling me a lot of things.
00:31:25.760 No.
00:31:26.760 I'm saying we're all hypocrites.
00:31:27.760 This is history.
00:31:28.760 This is the world.
00:31:29.760 It's how it works.
00:31:30.760 It's winners and losers.
00:31:31.760 If it's history.
00:31:32.760 Let's stop it now.
00:31:33.760 Before it becomes history.
00:31:34.760 Before one day when I have a kid.
00:31:35.760 I can't even open a geography book.
00:31:36.760 I agree.
00:31:37.760 And show him where Palestine is on the map.
00:31:39.760 Sure.
00:31:40.760 But then.
00:31:41.760 You should also give up your house in America.
00:31:42.760 In San Diego.
00:31:43.760 To a Native American.
00:31:44.760 I'll do my research on that.
00:31:45.760 And see if that's what I feel called to do.
00:31:46.760 Okay.
00:31:47.760 My point is.
00:31:48.760 Even though what's happening now.
00:31:49.760 This is just how the world works.
00:31:50.760 No.
00:31:51.760 Territories change.
00:31:52.760 Country's going to lose.
00:31:53.760 Borders change.
00:31:54.760 Then there will be no change ever.
00:31:55.760 Let's all go genocide each other.
00:31:56.760 Let's go.
00:31:57.760 Where do you want to go take over?
00:31:58.760 Let's go take over.
00:31:59.760 Let's go squat somewhere.
00:32:00.760 Let's go squat something else.
00:32:01.760 Because there's so many squatters already.
00:32:02.760 Let's go do it again.
00:32:03.760 Who cares?
00:32:04.760 He's like I'm cooking.
00:32:05.760 No.
00:32:06.760 He's listening.
00:32:07.760 No.
00:32:08.760 There is no shit.
00:32:09.760 Okay.
00:32:10.760 Who won?
00:32:11.760 I just think two wrongs will make a right.
00:32:12.760 Yeah.
00:32:13.760 But that's exactly it.
00:32:14.760 That's what I'm saying.
00:32:15.760 Everybody who says like three palace wall in America.
00:32:16.760 But we're still reaping the benefits of the colonizer point of view.
00:32:19.760 We live in the country of colonizers.
00:32:21.760 I understand what he's saying.
00:32:22.760 But again two wrongs don't make a wrong.
00:32:24.760 I'm not saying that either.
00:32:25.760 But we're all hypocrites.
00:32:26.760 Like.
00:32:27.760 If we're living in America.
00:32:28.760 If you're living in the West.
00:32:29.760 You colonize.
00:32:30.760 If you know something's happening right now.
00:32:31.760 You do something about it.
00:32:32.760 You speak up.
00:32:33.760 Okay.
00:32:34.760 Then you should give up your house.
00:32:35.760 Give it to me.
00:32:36.760 That's a whole different argument here.
00:32:37.760 And if I.
00:32:38.760 That's doing something about it.
00:32:39.760 One.
00:32:40.760 One.
00:32:41.760 I don't know enough about that to say what my point would be.
00:32:43.760 Let me study it.
00:32:44.760 And let me come back and say that.
00:32:45.760 And two.
00:32:46.760 My father got kicked here.
00:32:47.760 Yeah.
00:32:48.760 My father coming as a refugee looking for shelter.
00:32:50.760 Got sent me.
00:32:51.760 I know.
00:32:52.760 I'm saying.
00:32:53.760 I'm saying it's bad.
00:32:54.760 I'm saying colonization is bad.
00:32:55.760 Okay.
00:32:56.760 So then you lost.
00:32:57.760 Off of it now.
00:32:58.760 So we can't say that it's like morally bad.
00:32:59.760 This is so evil.
00:33:00.760 When we're reaping the benefits of it.
00:33:02.760 Who won?
00:33:03.760 Why do you not want to get in the clip?
00:33:04.760 Pull it.
00:33:05.760 Pull it.
00:33:06.760 Pull it.
00:33:07.760 Pull it.
00:33:08.760 Pull it.
00:33:09.760 But I still.
00:33:10.760 Two wrongs don't make it right.
00:33:11.760 Pull it.
00:33:12.760 Pull it.
00:33:13.760 Pull it.
00:33:14.760 I'm not saying it's right.
00:33:15.760 I'm saying this is how life works.
00:33:16.760 Like.
00:33:17.760 You know.
00:33:18.760 People shoot each other in the head every day.
00:33:19.760 It doesn't make it okay for me to pull out my gun.
00:33:20.760 I'm not saying two wrongs don't make it right.
00:33:21.760 You can say the same thing about the morality of an iPhone.
00:33:22.760 Like child slaves in China make this.
00:33:23.760 We're still using it.
00:33:24.760 Like we know it's bad but we still use things that are bad in the world.
00:33:27.760 5-2.
00:33:28.760 That's disgusting.
00:33:29.760 That's disgusting.
00:33:30.760 That's disgusting.
00:33:31.760 That's actually disgusting.
00:33:32.760 I had to win when I had to win.
00:33:33.760 I won the Michael Jordan won.
00:33:34.760 And that's the argument that Ethan Klein should use when he finally.
00:33:36.760 That's a horrible argument.
00:33:38.760 That's a horrible argument.
00:33:39.760 That's a horrible argument.
00:33:40.760 Why did I win?
00:33:41.760 That's a horrible.
00:33:42.760 I don't give a fuck.
00:33:43.760 That's a horrible argument.
00:33:44.760 I'm not taking that.