SNEAKO - January 09, 2023


SNEAKO Reacts To Male Feminists VS Anti-Feminists!


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Length

57 minutes

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207.36377

Word Count

11,968

Sentence Count

467

Misogynist Sentences

153

Hate Speech Sentences

102


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In this episode, the boys debate whether or not women have it harder than men in the dating world. They also debate if women are really as hard as men think they are. And of course, we all know that women were born with value.

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00:00:00.000 I want to watch this debate. It goes perfectly with what I'm talking about.
00:00:03.660 Do women really have it harder? Male feminists versus anti-feminists from Jubilee.
00:00:07.800 I can think that justifies being a feminist today is you must just want to get laid.
00:00:12.120 There's no reason to believe in all of these crazy things that seek to strip you of your masculinity,
00:00:19.360 perpetuate these terrible ideas that men are evil and all these things.
00:00:22.520 That has to be the reason.
00:00:30.000 Step forward if you agree with the prompt.
00:00:34.700 Women have it easier than they think they do.
00:00:40.000 This dude's ready.
00:00:41.520 Bro, this dude is about to spit this whole video.
00:00:44.720 He went, oh.
00:00:46.080 With feminism, it's kind of brainwashed women
00:00:48.080 to think that they are victims in 99% of cases
00:00:51.200 and all the disenfranchisement that they would claim
00:00:53.640 in colleges and careers.
00:00:55.460 A lot of these careers are way easier to get into for women
00:00:59.160 than they are for men because they're looking to hire women because of feminism yeah like in
00:01:03.160 divorce and stuff they get more property the kids rights all that yeah but more so i think that from
00:01:08.780 the jump actually have it easier like men need to be a provider they're taught to be tough oh why
00:01:13.340 are you crying don't be a girl but when a girl is crying or a girl is upset everybody jumps to come
00:01:18.660 and help her out the difference is women are never really lonely women don't experience loneliness
00:01:24.920 like men do women are expected to stay at home and they're not they don't have the same pressure
00:01:30.200 like I moved out of the house when I was like 14 I first got my own apartment when I was 19
00:01:36.660 and since then I've been a lot but the same pressure for women it's not women are expected
00:01:43.020 to rely on their parents longer to stay at home with the family longer and then they're handed
00:01:47.580 off to the guy that they end up spending time with for the most part and even when they're
00:01:52.660 upset there's always a friend to call there's always a dick to cry on there's always a shoulder
00:01:56.260 to lean on men experience loneliness real loneliness but you're not supposed to talk
00:02:04.400 about it you're not supposed to victimize yourself about it because people just no one can't no one
00:02:07.520 wants to hear shut up get over it no one cares it's funny it's funny like when a guy's crying
00:02:13.160 look at this stupid guy crying like everybody laughs goofy if a guy like gets his dick cut
00:02:18.540 off by his crazy ex-girlfriend they go haha dickless dave hey dickless dave oh she threw
00:02:24.620 your dick in the dumpster out this day come have a beer yo yo dave dickless dave show everybody
00:02:31.340 your dick hole show everybody the hole where your dick's supposed to be now trust me trust me it's
00:02:36.680 hilarious bro this she cut it off yeah and she that was the guy and then and she threw it in
00:02:42.740 the dumpster yo dave show your dick hole put your dick hole out haha fucking dave i love you
00:02:48.640 you fucking idiot look at you no dick ah stupid no one cares haha thanks to the 20 yo i'm back i
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00:03:31.320 do limited supply 20 push-ups 20 push-ups and back to the
00:03:34.600 and i hit chest today
00:03:38.920 perfect boy and that's 10 what they're either decline do this one time on the podcast
00:03:48.400 let's go chat did you do it with me or were you fucking
00:03:58.620 How many of you were just laying on your side
00:04:01.620 Watching it in your bed like this
00:04:02.900 While I did push-ups on your screen
00:04:04.360 Gross
00:04:05.240 Imagine just watching me do that
00:04:09.660 And not doing it with me
00:04:11.000 Anything that happens usually they're a princess
00:04:13.620 And they're given the world
00:04:15.460 Well yeah because with women they're born with their value
00:04:18.280 They innately have value
00:04:19.860 They can create life and they're extremely valuable
00:04:21.720 From birth for men it's not really the same way
00:04:23.940 You have to make something of yourself to be respected
00:04:26.400 Like a pretty woman can go far
00:04:28.300 just using her face, a man can't do that.
00:04:30.660 A man can't go to a rich businessman or like a businesswoman
00:04:34.400 and be like, I'm good looking, let me come to your yacht.
00:04:37.200 A woman can.
00:04:38.420 Right.
00:04:39.240 Let's bring the disagreeers forward.
00:04:40.740 Uh-oh.
00:04:45.480 I have a quick question.
00:04:46.680 Just a second ago, you were saying that a pretty woman
00:04:49.380 could go on to a rich man's yacht
00:04:51.560 and that would be kind of her ticket on, right?
00:04:54.900 Okay, so did that help women vote at all, being pretty?
00:04:58.300 But what does that have to do with it?
00:05:00.400 I'm just asking.
00:05:01.420 Because, I mean, when we're talking about women's lives being...
00:05:04.360 Imagine equating voting to a yacht.
00:05:06.400 Chad, would you rather go on a yacht or vote?
00:05:10.720 Like, right now, right now.
00:05:12.960 Would you rather be on a yacht or be in a polling booth in line at a public school?
00:05:17.580 Better than they think they are.
00:05:18.820 Would you rather be pretty and be able to get on a yacht or have your liberties?
00:05:23.040 What are we living in, like, 1950s or 2022?
00:05:25.160 They already have the right to vote for a long time.
00:05:27.240 i think something you specifically what the was that argument well male feminists are so
00:05:31.160 retarded quickly said shows to me why women don't have it easier i think it was you who said women
00:05:37.560 already have their value their value is already obvious because they can have children i don't
00:05:41.800 want to put you into the box but there are large amounts of men look what this male feminist looks
00:05:45.480 like once again once again crack the code women are people that have children and then they raise
00:05:51.480 the child and they be quiet and i think that is a problem i think what was really evident and look
00:05:56.600 Look at this other male feminist.
00:05:57.800 What the fuck does he look like?
00:05:59.720 Just don't take him seriously, bro.
00:06:03.220 It just, all right.
00:06:05.360 I'll pray for you.
00:06:06.600 Good luck with your male feminism.
00:06:08.140 When both of y'all came up and talked was how indoctrinated into the patriarchy you are.
00:06:13.740 You both come up and say, as men, we have to prove something.
00:06:17.100 And those expectations that you put on yourself is a direct result of patriarchy and the systems that feminism is trying to dismantle.
00:06:26.600 So you don't want to have to do anything, bro.
00:06:29.440 This dude is saying wanting to prove yourself is a system of indoctrination.
00:06:34.160 Like, all right, bro.
00:06:35.980 That's what I'm telling you.
00:06:37.100 Being woke is just justifying extensively that you're a failure.
00:06:43.200 As are the values that women have that when they were born that you're talking about.
00:06:46.960 Women did not create those.
00:06:48.620 Right.
00:06:49.200 Those are God.
00:06:50.900 Men and women are both equal under God and in value as human beings.
00:06:54.760 In Genesis you have a creation of both men and women
00:06:57.040 We're not about to quote the Bible
00:06:58.940 No, no, quote the Bible
00:07:02.680 It makes way more sense
00:07:03.800 If we're operating in a country where there's a separation
00:07:07.160 Of church and state, you cannot use
00:07:08.880 Religion as a motivation
00:07:10.960 To make legislation
00:07:12.220 If I hear one
00:07:15.160 More person
00:07:16.600 Use religion as a reason
00:07:18.240 What's the correlation, that's why, another reason I started
00:07:20.860 Believing in God, because atheists
00:07:23.040 Look like this
00:07:23.800 and i don't want to be that genuinely i don't want to be like them
00:07:29.260 there must be a reason why they don't believe in god
00:07:33.200 to not give rights to people i'm probably going to explode people using their own personal
00:07:42.280 ideologies as an excuse to implement legislation over other people's lives are simply just not
00:07:49.140 okay with the fact that they can't control everything around them back to the prompt i
00:07:52.780 I mean, I don't think that women have it easier than they think they do.
00:07:55.920 And I think to just make blanket statements like women in society think they have it easy
00:07:59.740 or men in society have it harder or whatever you want to say, I just think it's kind of naive.
00:08:04.660 Sure, maybe some women think they have it easier, but that might not be because they're a woman.
00:08:07.820 It might just be because of their own set of life challenges and vice versa.
00:08:11.060 And I agree.
00:08:12.300 And one of the reasons that I am so passionately anti-feminist is because I believe that feminism pits men against women.
00:08:17.840 Men and women may be equal today, but they are not the same.
00:08:20.220 But also, too, women are under a pressing assault today in this country.
00:08:24.060 They're losing their ability to compete in sports, beauty pageants, also just basic things like that to people that identify as women.
00:08:32.460 And no one is talking about it.
00:08:33.420 Feminists aren't talking about it.
00:08:34.720 So now you have conservatives having to fight for women's equality in these spaces.
00:08:38.120 You're making some pretty blanket statements saying feminists don't care about it.
00:08:41.520 And you say, you think that all women just are against men.
00:08:45.360 Well, to answer your question, yeah.
00:08:46.400 You're talking about women.
00:08:47.360 Women are not all feminists.
00:08:48.360 There are plenty of feminists who are very anti-woman.
00:08:52.520 You know, you saw it in the political era
00:08:54.500 where you have people who will attack Kayleigh McEnany and Kellyanne Conway
00:08:57.180 because they aren't pro-women.
00:08:59.100 They're not for the girls.
00:09:00.400 So you...
00:09:01.040 Um, actually...
00:09:01.780 Notice how the old boy...
00:09:04.000 Old boy.
00:09:05.440 This male feminist is fat as fuck.
00:09:07.260 We have, like, just a little bit left.
00:09:08.700 I haven't heard Kevin yet.
00:09:11.440 Yeah, um...
00:09:12.660 Speak up, Kevin!
00:09:13.400 When you talked about the pressures of being a man
00:09:15.200 and having to provide and having to prove your value as a man,
00:09:19.020 I think those are real challenges that men face.
00:09:21.740 That's why women have it harder too,
00:09:23.700 because they are also being impacted
00:09:26.280 by how aggressive men feel like they need to be
00:09:30.100 to be able to secure the role that they have to play in society.
00:09:33.640 But the reality of today is that because of the systems that we're in,
00:09:37.500 the patriarchy is negatively impacting not only women, but also men.
00:09:42.400 There's no wrong reason to get an abortion.
00:09:49.580 All of them love abortion.
00:09:54.080 This dude, I vouched for you in the beginning.
00:09:57.720 So I'll just center the conversation around the very fact that, you know, we're a group of eight men.
00:10:03.780 The optics of eight men in a room talking about when women do and don't deserve.
00:10:09.620 the optics so you're not you're changing your actual opinion because of how you're going to
00:10:14.820 offend people what a fucking pussy to get an abortion is it's a bad look so like for me
00:10:20.820 say what the fuck you think stand on something don't just believe in shit because you don't
00:10:28.360 want to offend woke people what a fucking idiot i have a girlfriend there might be some reasons
00:10:32.960 on a personal level where her and i having that conversation together i might say oh i think we
00:10:37.820 should do this, I think we should do that. On a legislative level, I don't feel confident enough
00:10:42.900 to legislate when someone is and isn't allowed to get health care. Because that's what abortion
00:10:49.200 is, it's health care. One of the paramount ideologies of, I guess, being a quote-unquote
00:10:53.780 male feminist is just the ability to mind your own business. Just to be able to say that this
00:11:00.480 is the wrong reason to have an abortion, you're already headed down the wrong path.
00:11:03.460 yeah so being an anti-feminist i i look at this and i say chad wl abortion hey well i am more
00:11:09.660 religious as well as i'm so i want to say like i'm more like pro-life right but if a woman decides
00:11:14.960 that they want to not give birth it doesn't it doesn't matter the reason you know maybe that's
00:11:19.040 not the question the question is there's no wrong reason to get an abortion you know it's a wrong
00:11:22.440 reason to get an abortion i don't feel like raising my baby so i'm gonna kill it it's a wrong
00:11:27.800 reason to have an abortion simple simple you should be sitting down bro read more bible quotes
00:11:36.280 maybe she's not she's not wealthy enough maybe you know the father left her you know there's so
00:11:41.480 many reasons and then i also look at like just gun violence and how we're like birthing kids and we
00:11:45.760 raise them and send it to school knowing that it can get killed i don't know i would feel like
00:11:50.180 it's like not a safe it's not the best world to be exactly exactly you see how the woke people
00:11:54.920 got brainwashed to think that they shouldn't even have kids it's not the best world to raise a child
00:11:59.300 who made you believe that did you come to that conclusion or was it mainstream news there's a
00:12:04.920 reason that woke people say that nonsense i've heard that so much uh there's no reason to like
00:12:09.100 raise a kid in this climate of the no cnn you seeing syrian babies wash up on the shore from
00:12:16.540 cnn made you think that you shouldn't have kids that's the most beautiful thing that we can do
00:12:20.640 is start a family shut up only woke people believe this i think uh a patriarchal um element even in
00:12:27.520 your answer not to combat or what have you um the idea of trying to cycle cycle through the reasons
00:12:34.180 why and going yeah i guess those make sense is still in my opinion patriarchal even though i was
00:12:40.440 on the feminist side on that topic it feels like i was put in a position where i was framed as
00:12:45.100 wrong it felt like you are no he's speaking way zesty to be on our side yo jubilee can you get
00:12:51.560 someone like every time we do this video there's just an overwhelming fruity bias can you get
00:12:57.700 someone better i'm allowed to have this opinion on this topic because you're not a woman and i
00:13:01.980 think that's kind of bullshit to be honest off the top of my head i know that was mentioned earlier
00:13:08.220 that abortion is health care and i first want to push back on that abortion is not health care
00:13:12.980 healthcare preserves life it protects it uh it doesn't take it away it doesn't eliminate what
00:13:17.880 about the woman's life but when you exterminate a child that is doing oh but it's not always a
00:13:22.360 child right so it's it's a discussion when it becomes a child or not that's not a gray area
00:13:27.240 that's not a lot it is actually scientifically proven it is a it is a separate strain of DNA
00:13:32.060 at conception if you ask any doctor but if you took that clump of cells out would it survive
00:13:36.760 it's not a clump of cells that's why you call it a termination scientifically it is a life at birth
00:13:41.500 and scientifically it is at conception, it is a life, but it is not a human.
00:13:47.840 So look, though, the thing is, so when you say it's about protecting life,
00:13:52.300 abortions are protecting lives of thousands of women who maybe are not able to have...
00:13:57.200 At the expense of another life.
00:13:58.360 But you're already prioritizing that other life over the woman who's carrying that life.
00:14:04.300 Because of patriarchy, too.
00:14:05.480 Because of patriarchy, y'all are basically saying that this...
00:14:09.240 See, these cells are more important than the one.
00:14:12.920 I think it's absolutely shameful how flippantly our society has begun to treat the topic of abortion.
00:14:17.660 You are literally exterminating an unborn child.
00:14:20.160 To protect the life of another woman.
00:14:22.600 Then don't have sex without protection.
00:14:24.620 Oh, personal responsibility.
00:14:26.860 Just not a woke idea.
00:14:28.020 You don't have sex without protection.
00:14:29.820 You don't have sex without protection.
00:14:31.340 I don't have a baby.
00:14:32.400 Tell them what they can do.
00:14:32.820 I don't have a baby.
00:14:33.780 Tell them what they can do.
00:14:34.560 Stop absolving women and men of responsibility
00:14:38.000 and treating grown-ass people like they are children.
00:14:42.460 Facts!
00:14:43.240 We're not emphasizing any of those things.
00:14:45.580 We're going straight to women and making it their problem.
00:14:48.680 Well, it's a man's problem as well
00:14:50.460 because if a man gets a woman pregnant,
00:14:53.000 that is his child as well.
00:14:54.320 So one of the things that's really important
00:14:55.640 and what abortion does is it puts all of reproductive rights
00:14:58.880 in the hands of women when it takes both parties.
00:15:02.020 And the man has no right to choose.
00:15:04.060 There we go.
00:15:05.360 She cannot have a child without a man.
00:15:07.500 Abortion normalizes women making bad choices.
00:15:10.620 We've kind of given a free pass for people to be a lot more carefree about who they sleep with
00:15:15.960 and not really think twice about the ramifications that may come of it.
00:15:19.520 But again, we're also, once again, we're talking, we're zooming in on a high level on the end result.
00:15:25.400 We're not talking about the systemic issues that cause women to have abortions.
00:15:28.580 Hold on, hold on.
00:15:29.400 We're not talking about the lack of resources that make people feel like they cannot sustain a pregnancy or sustain a life.
00:15:35.660 And those are things that are caused by the way men have set up society.
00:15:39.680 So instead of talking about the actual issues from the top down and going the whole way,
00:15:45.620 we go to the most oppressed person involved and make it their fault.
00:15:50.360 Mansplaining is overly criticized.
00:15:53.880 Everybody should be sitting down.
00:15:55.520 What does mansplaining even mean?
00:15:57.440 being a man explaining something how is explaining part of the patriarchy
00:16:03.480 oh god all the sword boys this is a good one great question look at it i frequently come
00:16:10.900 across videos online where like a man will respond back to a broad generalization about women and
00:16:17.340 they'll be like oh you're just mansplaining it as if tell christine w single proud of you homie
00:16:20.920 l abortion w bible w jesus year shout out jesus men aren't allowed to have a voice in the
00:16:26.360 conversation um and i think that the term itself it's just not really defined and mansplaining is
00:16:32.300 just not real like it just it literally is a man explaining something and these people get angry
00:16:36.320 about it like that's the reality of the times in which we live and it also it hurts the ability of
00:16:41.180 men to have conversations with women because you think oh wow if i explain this issue to her and
00:16:46.240 i'm going to be accused of mansplaining or i'm going to be accused of being sexist because i
00:16:49.280 don't think she understands it it's toxic and it hurts women it hurts men and it's just it's just
00:16:54.020 not a way for us it's a way to encourage females to be delusional by not having a man be like no
00:16:59.480 you sound dumb and at its core it's completely hypocritical because the feminist plight is that
00:17:05.460 women need to have a voice and they're being told they can't have a voice and then they turn around
00:17:08.980 and do the exact same thing and say you're mansplaining me you shouldn't have a voice
00:17:12.400 about this topic because you're a man and we're targeted because of our identity and no one cares
00:17:16.440 about it because we're supposedly in positions of power so we don't get to be victims we don't get
00:17:20.840 to say, oh, you should feel bad for us because we're men. So we don't get to have the luxury
00:17:25.180 of having the benefit of the doubt of society or the media or any of those things. And it's
00:17:28.900 a shame. It's a shame.
00:17:34.280 I'm going to speak about mansplaining from a different perspective because you guys are
00:17:37.480 talking about controversial topics. I'm going to talk about it from just like a day-to-day
00:17:41.220 perspective. In my relationship with my partner, how I try to be really mindful of mansplaining
00:17:47.500 is when she's when she is sharing her struggle I think a tendency that can be conditioned in me
00:17:53.520 through just how men dominate and want to have to solve problems and all that is I want to jump in
00:17:59.100 and just solve it and try to explain what's happening here and try to question her experience
00:18:02.900 and be like hey like yeah when a woman is talking don't question her well did you think about this
00:18:08.360 did you think about that well don't don't ask women to think I I see this that don't tell women
00:18:14.120 what you see not inherently in itself comes off as mansplaining because what is the counter to
00:18:20.160 soy boys will prioritize optics over truth you see this the second time that it's come up that
00:18:26.980 they'll ignore reality in order to preserve people's feelings look at that right now the war
00:18:34.340 is feelings versus truth emotion versus logic and emotion is winning mansplaining is actually
00:18:42.260 getting consent from the other person how do you want to be supported do you want do you want me to
00:18:47.540 support you and listen to you or do you want me to help solve problems it's also mansplaining is
00:18:52.600 also not just having a man having an opinion that's not the situation the idea is when a man
00:18:57.860 interjects an opinion that he either is not fully educated on or does not have the appropriate
00:19:03.900 empathy to be able to talk about how are you coming up with your own definition mansplaining
00:19:11.060 is simple man explaining look at well how you bring in empathy and that has nothing to do with
00:19:17.380 the word he just made up his own def that's my that's my issue then feel free when a woman does
00:19:22.900 that to say you're woman explaining i don't think that there's a reason that term doesn't exist
00:19:28.040 and that's because you're not allowed to do that towards women in society if you did that
00:19:33.080 it would be just fine you just invented it would be just fine i think that i think the difference
00:19:37.440 is though when that had if that were to happen to men it wouldn't quiet our voices to to being
00:19:42.000 completely unheard my wife is a is a physics and math teacher if she has the answer to a question
00:19:47.440 this is lava right here and in a staff meeting she's gonna have to be louder than the men in
00:19:51.860 the room because that is the way society has conditioned people to operate especially hold on
00:19:57.960 especially in males no it hasn't you know it's a good example of somebody who was able to speak
00:20:02.400 up in a room without having to raise your voice to sound like a man when erudite type of one of
00:20:07.600 you know that is erudite is um she's kind of like a destiny type stream or something like that
00:20:12.200 she's feminine she's a married woman and she came on the fresh and fit panel as a girl not even as
00:20:16.580 a special guest and the whole time she was soft-spoken and she was being smart and she
00:20:20.400 was staying in her feminine frame and every time she spoke everybody listened not because she had
00:20:24.220 to raise her voice but because we respect feminine women stop telling women that they need to act
00:20:30.100 like men to get respect nobody respects a girl boss you look stupid it only looks good in a meg
00:20:34.820 the stallion song in real life everyone's gonna laugh when you turn your back away if you're a
00:20:40.260 woman be feminine and you'll get respect dominated spaces yeah that's what mansplaining is i have one
00:20:46.320 more question is it about the word yeah that's what i feel is it about the word i'm like words
00:20:50.680 when you say mansplaining you have to understand that subconsciously we're already creating a
00:20:57.940 divide when really a woman can mansplain by definition the way you guys are explaining it
00:21:02.520 and that's just as wrong as if a man does it so why is it called mansplaining why isn't it just
00:21:05.600 disrespectful so so when your life is not at stake when you're not being attacked i think you can
00:21:10.360 focus on language when you're not at risk you know you live in u.s dude that doesn't matter
00:21:14.560 attack every single day women are attacked more but i think from a societal standpoint you guys
00:21:19.860 talk a lot about social conditioning and how women feel uncomfortable but don't you think
00:21:24.140 this narrative that you're saying right now is contributing to that? Telling women that
00:21:27.800 they should be scared when they're in an environment full of men, telling women that
00:21:31.360 they are oppressed, they are this, they're that, by telling women they're less than men.
00:21:35.780 Let me respond to that. They're not telling them that. They're validating the fact that
00:21:39.080 that's the reality. Right. Women should be encouraged to be financially independent
00:21:45.160 of men. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. This is what's ruining the family from the inside out.
00:21:51.400 Shout out to, this is a good debate.
00:21:53.020 Good questions.
00:21:56.520 Oh, man.
00:21:57.260 All the fucking, why are all the anti-feminists sitting down?
00:22:03.120 I think this one's a no-brainer, right?
00:22:05.340 I believe that men and women are equal.
00:22:07.800 They're just not the same.
00:22:08.960 And I think with that equality comes equal responsibility to be able to provide for yourself.
00:22:13.340 And when I think about what could provide oppression, if that were to exist, would be
00:22:20.140 this idea that they were tethered to men to live their life what look at his face look at jay-z
00:22:25.980 look at fat fat z's face i think if you remove that tethering then obviously women are free to
00:22:31.420 do whatever they're more like gazy please and exit very bad situations you know one of the most
00:22:36.540 unfortunate stories that you hear so often is that so many women are forced to live in very
00:22:41.820 dangerous circumstances because they don't know who's going to provide for their child if they
00:22:44.980 leave they don't know who's going to provide for them if they leave and so i think financial
00:22:48.400 independence for anyone is always just a good idea yeah i want to speak about this through no
00:22:52.480 and you know how i want to raise my daughter i want to raise my daughter so that she
00:22:56.160 can be a wife for a man that will provide for her i don't want her to have to work i don't want my
00:23:04.840 daughter to have to become a girl boss i don't want her to like sit in you know you know it's
00:23:09.100 a tragedy have you ever walked into an office like a dentist's office or something like that
00:23:13.760 and then there's this beautiful girl there probably like 25 26 and she's there like answering the
00:23:19.900 phone at the front and you're like she's wasting her best years her peak years physically so that
00:23:29.080 she could be a girl boss and have a career and all she's doing is okay i'll call you up when you're
00:23:33.420 ready like you she thinks that she's like supposed to be career driven and then she finally realizes
00:23:40.260 that she wants to have a family when she becomes 36 37 and the attention starts drying out but
00:23:45.220 that's the sad part like i'll walk into like a doctor's office or the optometrist and then the
00:23:50.760 girl there's like you man you should be at home right now you should be at home
00:23:55.400 different lens i think it should be like women should be empowered to be financially independent
00:24:02.400 encourage versus empower takes a different like sense of support speaking to um how men feel the
00:24:09.900 need to provide. Sometimes when a woman makes more than a man, men can can feel like they're less of
00:24:15.280 a man because the woman is taking more of like the boss and like provision kind of like role in the
00:24:21.260 household. So I think that it's important to be able to equip women with being able to feel like
00:24:28.740 they are empowered. And that that is a feminist thing because it is breaking the gender norms of
00:24:35.180 what is masculine and what is feminine role. Yeah, I also think it is important, though,
00:24:39.920 in this conversation to recognize the women that don't want to be financially independent in a
00:24:45.200 marriage. You know, there's a lot of women in our country that enjoy being mothers. And I think being
00:24:50.760 a mother is one of the... Incredibly valuable. Yeah, exactly. And that doesn't necessarily mean
00:24:54.580 that they're, you know, stuck in their situation because they're doing something very valuable by
00:24:58.880 sacrificing that freedom in order to raise our next generation. It's just giving a choice, right?
00:25:02.620 And their love is their labor, right?
00:25:04.560 Their love is their labor in their home.
00:25:06.820 Okay, I have a few different thoughts.
00:25:09.260 One of them would be the importance of the family.
00:25:12.320 I think women should go out and be financially smart
00:25:16.200 and know how to make money
00:25:17.320 and be able to make money for themselves.
00:25:18.940 But being independent of men leaves this notion
00:25:21.820 of that you can never trust a man
00:25:24.140 or that men are unsafe.
00:25:25.700 And the problem that this brings is in the family.
00:25:30.300 Can I ask you why?
00:25:31.120 hold on i'm just gonna finish my thought i'll explain with the nuclear family yo bro how
00:25:36.640 unlikable like you have and this is for both men and women they're the most happiest when they are
00:25:42.860 in that kind of dynamic and to your point about marriages where women makes more than the man
00:25:48.240 that's one of the biggest indicators of divorce and i think there's a societal and honestly god
00:25:54.020 given responsibility for a man to provide so when men are told that women are going to be independent
00:25:59.040 of you, you're stripping away a lot of their purpose and responsibility to be caretakers
00:26:03.660 of women and to provide for women.
00:26:06.100 I would also say that the biggest group of people that are on antidepressants, and it's
00:26:10.600 one in four, are women that are 40, have a career, and have no family and no kids, which
00:26:15.520 is the real meaning of life is community, family, and relationships.
00:26:18.540 Can I respond to one specific thing you said, which is the demographic of women over 40
00:26:25.900 uh taking antidepressants and you're using that as proof that they're the most depressed group
00:26:30.300 um men just kill themselves so like all the men that have killed themselves if they didn't do
00:26:36.400 that and we're still here men would predominantly be more depressed the dumbest argument i've ever
00:26:43.420 heard whenever you argue with the feminists about this they equate it to well women are better than
00:26:48.360 men it's a problem on both sides idiot you fucking soy boy fucking dummy stupid the problem woke
00:26:59.280 ideology affects both of us it's not men versus women well actually men are so stupid that they
00:27:06.260 kill themselves you fucking idiot the reason that more women are on antidepressants and more men
00:27:12.180 are deleting themselves is because the downfall the destruction of the family from the inside out
00:27:20.020 it affects both of us it's not men versus women we're on the same team
00:27:24.960 stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid if they didn't do that and we're still here men would
00:27:32.980 predominantly be more depressed there's no basis yeah but also the men statistically kill
00:27:38.520 themselves more. But we're talking about two completely different points. I think he's just
00:27:42.720 saying that that statistic is a little bit difficult to process. I'm saying that it's out of context because the men that get. There's other factors. There's always going to be other factors, but that's a clear indicator that women at some point, whether they started wanting a career, will eventually want to fall into a role of being a mom, having children, because that is what women derive the most happiness from. You've got a lot of studies and stats over here, which is cool. But like when we're talking about financial literacy and financial freedom, there are a lot of women
00:28:08.380 that have the ability that decide to step back all those types of things none of that has to be
00:28:13.900 telling the chest as my husband of the best he steps up in so many ways i came up with a great
00:28:17.160 business idea that lets us both work from home and we are very happy i cook every meal and still
00:28:21.640 have the feminine role perfect perfect but i think you would still agree to let me know that women
00:28:26.880 there's no reason that women should not be encouraged to be financially independent
00:28:30.600 from men just because you came up with that business idea look you found something that
00:28:35.600 gets out of that loophole but congrats you and your family you seem very happy in a way or omitted
00:28:40.060 in order for them to be empowered people should be able to do in their households what they want
00:28:43.860 to do i don't think anybody's trying to take that option away from women i think y'all think people
00:28:48.820 are but i don't think that's really happening but they are they are we see that in society today
00:28:54.040 people demonizing women for choosing to stay at home female empowerment also means empowering
00:29:00.140 women again to make the choice that fits them their choices and what they want to do it is just
00:29:04.940 as powerful just as influential just as important as a choice to make to raise your kids at home if
00:29:09.820 that is what you want to do and also be the ceo of walmart if that's what you choose to do we can
00:29:14.500 empower women to be girl bosses whatever else you whatever you want to say would you empower a male
00:29:20.000 friend if he told you that he was going to quit his job to be a full-time stay-at-home father
00:29:23.660 so i so that no that's good i just want to make sure because like you're only defending women who
00:29:31.520 get demonized for
00:29:33.320 doing this and you're not
00:29:34.920 advocating for men
00:29:37.340 to want to step up and do that too.
00:29:39.260 Because most men don't want to.
00:29:41.020 Why don't you want men? Because they don't want to.
00:29:43.000 I don't want to.
00:29:44.440 Are you pro-choices or pro-less choices?
00:29:48.580 This is a trap.
00:29:49.840 This is a trap.
00:29:51.260 What do you mean about that? Are you pro-choices?
00:29:53.160 When I asked him why he doesn't encourage men,
00:29:56.000 he said because they don't want to do that.
00:29:58.040 So then why is it a problem if women
00:29:59.500 don't want to be stable?
00:30:00.180 I'm not encouraging women to stay at home.
00:30:02.180 I'm not encouraging women to stay at home.
00:30:04.180 I'm saying that they have a choice and I'm not for taking choices away from women.
00:30:07.180 You may be. I don't know.
00:30:09.180 Alright, reset.
00:30:16.180 Period pain is exaggerated.
00:30:23.180 Not period. They're all afraid to sit down. They don't want to upset.
00:30:27.180 nah nah nah bro nah i mean obviously you don't know how bad period pain is but they
00:30:33.480 you know what i would sit down here and i'd be like all right but you got to stop
00:30:37.200 justifying your freakish emotions on your period start making some sense just because
00:30:43.100 you're bleeding doesn't mean that you get to be a cunt okay i'm glad no one stepped forward for
00:30:48.420 I'm going to change my mind.
00:30:52.400 All right, next prompt.
00:30:56.820 Innocent men suffer because of feminism.
00:31:05.980 Good question.
00:31:08.480 So I think today in 2022, feminism has changed drastically.
00:31:13.640 and I think it's really turned into demonizing masculinity in men
00:31:18.560 while promoting masculinity in women.
00:31:20.940 And with that, the only thing that I can think that justifies these crazy things...
00:31:25.380 Oh, my God, I'm stupid. Where were we? Where were we?
00:31:27.140 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
00:31:29.560 That was right here.
00:31:31.120 Men.
00:31:32.560 Drastically.
00:31:33.700 And I think it's really turned into demonizing masculinity in men
00:31:37.940 while promoting masculinity in women.
00:31:40.080 and with that, good men are being pushed to the wayside
00:31:43.640 and pushing parts of themselves down
00:31:45.560 and not embracing their own masculinity
00:31:47.160 because society is telling them that it's wrong.
00:31:50.740 100%. I think, like, anything that is deemed masculine
00:31:53.900 is seen as now toxic, and I see it all over social media.
00:31:58.280 You can't really say anything or do anything,
00:32:00.480 especially even, like, against or even for yourself
00:32:03.460 without it being, like, weaponized in some way or shape or form.
00:32:07.460 Yeah. It's a shame that feminism has become less about actual equality and more about supremacy.
00:32:12.840 It's not about equal rights between men and women. It's about women being superior to men
00:32:17.340 and women don't even like it anymore. Right. I hear conversations with so many girls that are
00:32:22.400 that are friends of mine. They're like, I hate what feminism has become because it makes me feel
00:32:27.120 as if I'm a victim. And also, too, that men aren't supposed to be men anymore. It almost absolves us
00:32:32.920 of the responsibilities that we have as males in society
00:32:35.700 to be providers, to be protectors.
00:32:38.140 And innocent men suffer because we're made out to be toxic
00:32:41.080 because we're fulfilling our roles as men in this world.
00:32:43.960 It's absolutely insane.
00:32:44.980 Yeah, and I mean, I disagree a little bit
00:32:46.380 with saying that men have to be providers,
00:32:47.960 but I think, you know, demonizing those men
00:32:50.840 is part of the problem.
00:32:52.520 Yeah, you know, I would disagree a little bit,
00:32:54.180 but I think also too, though,
00:32:55.340 what we probably would agree on
00:32:56.700 is that in a society that makes women feel
00:32:59.000 as if they need to be more like men, all you get-
00:33:01.020 Okay, skip chat.
00:33:01.820 I'm getting bored too.
00:33:02.640 I'm not going to lie.
00:33:03.160 I see skips in the chat.
00:33:04.440 ...is really bad versions of men.
00:33:05.920 And when you have men who are increasingly more feminine,
00:33:08.040 you get men who aren't being men at all anymore.
00:33:10.220 And I think that's a huge societal problem,
00:33:11.780 and we see the ripple effects and the consequences of that every single day.
00:33:16.760 When I started hearing y'all talk, y'all have a huge misconception...
00:33:19.320 Autobots!
00:33:21.720 Autobots, roll out!
00:33:23.540 When I started hearing y'all talk,
00:33:24.920 y'all have a huge misconception of even what feminism is.
00:33:27.380 The goal of feminism isn't to demasculate men.
00:33:30.440 The goal of feminism is to fight for social, political, and economic equality for everyone to...
00:33:35.620 Regardless of your race, gender.
00:33:37.260 Equality of opportunity or equality of outcome.
00:33:38.140 Because it used to be equality of opportunity.
00:33:39.700 And that's when I would say I would be a feminist.
00:33:41.200 But now it's become equality of outcome.
00:33:42.560 But either way, what y'all are talking about is feelings.
00:33:45.420 Y'all are talking about, I don't like how women make me feel in society about crying.
00:33:50.380 How women make me...
00:33:51.000 Well, the question was about feelings.
00:33:51.980 Yeah.
00:33:52.400 No, hold on.
00:33:52.880 It was about our men affected.
00:33:53.540 That's feelings.
00:33:54.380 But yes, that's a conversation.
00:33:55.260 But feminism itself is not about feeling.
00:33:57.160 It's about, like you said, outcome.
00:33:58.220 It's about the wage gap.
00:33:59.220 it's about being having access which doesn't exist by the way right but anyways
00:34:02.360 hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on no you didn't let me talk though
00:34:06.220 no you didn't let me talk though it's about feelings right you don't want to talk about
00:34:08.600 how men feel let's talk about how women feel let's talk about feminists again it's not about
00:34:11.200 feelings period that's my point it's not other women it's not about feelings period other women
00:34:14.760 wait can we have the prompt again yeah let's cut back to the prompt because it didn't have
00:34:17.420 feelings exactly right innocent men suffer because of feminism and so can i can i pose
00:34:23.220 this question on a day like on a day-by-day basis do you think you're negatively affected
00:34:27.400 by feminism?
00:34:27.820 100%.
00:34:28.180 Can you explain to me
00:34:30.720 how on a day-by-day
00:34:31.360 it makes them feel
00:34:32.240 negatively?
00:34:32.880 Because again,
00:34:33.880 masculinity has this
00:34:35.180 mythical eligibility
00:34:37.360 of power.
00:34:38.040 When someone,
00:34:39.360 feminist,
00:34:39.840 what have you,
00:34:40.500 challenges that,
00:34:41.040 it feels like oppression
00:34:41.660 to them.
00:34:42.020 It feels like something
00:34:42.860 is being done.
00:34:43.380 It's not challenging.
00:34:43.780 That's my perception.
00:34:44.720 Feel free to disagree
00:34:45.240 because that's what
00:34:45.580 it looks like to me.
00:34:46.140 And I'm not oppressed
00:34:46.280 so I challenge that perception
00:34:47.640 but also too,
00:34:48.340 to go back to your point
00:34:49.060 about feminism,
00:34:49.660 that may have been true
00:34:50.240 with first-wave feminism
00:34:50.940 but with third-wave feminism
00:34:51.980 that is no longer
00:34:53.060 the case anymore.
00:34:53.720 Because first-wave feminism
00:34:54.720 and third-wave feminism
00:34:55.300 Guys, bring it back
00:34:55.400 to the prompt and then also just i love the ping-ponging but just make sure we don't have
00:34:59.140 five people talking on top of each other all right there's another side to this too it's the
00:35:02.460 patriarchy and so that is what you are talking about it is the pressure to be strong the pressure
00:35:07.740 to protect but in what we all talk about are fit to be president okay are women fit to be president
00:35:12.860 of course all the all the story boys autobots roll out uh what this guy's a sellout bro
00:35:19.260 i mean really this is a no-brainer yeah i think that this is um i expected this to be
00:35:25.380 unanimous but i think this will probably be the most biggest agreement amongst the group today i
00:35:28.700 think anyone who's born in america above the age of 35 that's not a felon you can be you can be
00:35:33.440 present right and i think a lot of times in these conversations of course you can be but the question
00:35:36.680 is if they're fit to be president right we focus on the differences between men and women but just
00:35:41.580 you know based off of studies men and women are very similar creatures i mean we're the same
00:35:44.800 species we think the same on most levels and to say that a woman can't do the same job as a man
00:35:49.820 to me is completely regressive um now i consider myself an anti-feminist today but this is the
00:35:54.500 of question that i would be a feminist for 50 years ago to me this it should be a unanimous uh
00:36:00.020 you know thing stepping forward but i look forward to hearing what what they have to say
00:36:05.620 i think eligibility and optimal option is the difference i think a woman can be eligible to be
00:36:10.340 president i think is it the optimal situation no i would kind of disagree with you where you say men
00:36:14.580 and women are generally the same i think we're completely different in the way that we process
00:36:17.620 information the way that we make choices the way that we build society men are very hierarchical in
00:36:21.460 in nature, so it's very merit-oriented.
00:36:23.840 I think women are a little bit more communitarianism,
00:36:25.880 or communism, that's what I'm looking for.
00:36:27.300 Communism.
00:36:28.140 Communistic, you mean community-based?
00:36:28.980 Community-based, right, thank you.
00:36:30.420 Where everybody gets one, so you get one, you get one,
00:36:32.520 it's not really based on output,
00:36:34.020 which I think is good in some cases,
00:36:35.220 but I think in a general scheme
00:36:36.580 of building a structure of government,
00:36:38.460 I would say having it more merit-based,
00:36:39.980 very capitalistic, where you go out,
00:36:41.220 you work for your living, you provide for your family,
00:36:43.180 I think that's the way that men typically build society.
00:36:45.220 So even a woman whose worldview aligns with yours,
00:36:48.240 you don't think that she would be fit to be president,
00:36:49.820 even if every single view she has.
00:36:51.340 Like I said, she could be fit,
00:36:52.500 but is it the optimal situation?
00:36:53.660 No, I don't think so.
00:36:55.180 Just because she has the right ideology,
00:36:56.540 if we can agree that women go insane
00:36:58.420 for a week of every month,
00:37:00.360 then I don't know if they're fit
00:37:01.240 to have the nuclear codes.
00:37:02.480 So is the only reason she's not optimal
00:37:03.660 because she's a woman?
00:37:04.140 I would say it's not optimal
00:37:04.940 because God called men
00:37:06.060 to be the leaders of society.
00:37:07.040 So again, you keep going back to-
00:37:07.980 And thank you, T. Boone Pickens.
00:37:09.080 Keep fighting the good fights, Nico.
00:37:10.060 Your message is beneficial
00:37:10.780 and you are helping men and women too.
00:37:12.020 You inspire people to keep up with the good work.
00:37:13.300 Proud to support you.
00:37:14.540 W. T. Boone in the chat.
00:37:15.640 God, and we keep trying to center Christianity as like the know-all, end-all.
00:37:19.360 What about all the religions that had female goddesses and matriarchal systems?
00:37:23.540 We also don't have to sidestep Christianity as if there were not any female leaders in the Bible either.
00:37:27.020 Absolutely.
00:37:27.720 I'm going to go to the, for my reason why, I think it was in London, and it's before their current prime minister.
00:37:32.420 I'm forgetting her name, but she was their mayor for about two months, and she ran away.
00:37:36.680 She pretty much resigned, was done with it.
00:37:38.440 And I do personally think that women are more emotional beings.
00:37:41.420 We are not similar.
00:37:42.240 That's actually not factually true.
00:37:43.300 There are big differences between us, and those differences are very vast on the spectrum,
00:37:46.660 but we are a lot more similar in the way we process information.
00:37:49.300 I was just trying to finish what I was saying.
00:37:51.220 I was pretty much trying to go to the point of feminism has created,
00:37:53.840 especially Western women, to be more emotional, more erratical on their decisions.
00:37:57.000 It encourages toxic behavior.
00:37:58.280 Making and more emotionally charged, and that's where I brought up the London thing,
00:38:01.920 where I feel like that's a good example of that happening, where the pressure got through them.
00:38:05.600 Resigning is a coward to me, being a coward.
00:38:08.140 Does a male president ever resign?
00:38:10.200 I'm not sure, but that's what I'm saying.
00:38:11.700 So, yeah, if I can interject.
00:38:12.720 Christian Nixon was because he was getting put into crime.
00:38:15.460 Yeah, so it's like double worse.
00:38:17.080 That's not better.
00:38:17.780 That's worse.
00:38:18.580 So if I can interject.
00:38:19.700 So you're kind of using this one anecdotal evidence of like,
00:38:22.200 oh, this one woman got in office.
00:38:24.440 Are you aware of all of history?
00:38:26.720 Because literally, men led pretty much every nation.
00:38:29.760 I'd say about 99% of nations.
00:38:31.460 So, yeah.
00:38:32.700 Men used to lead nations,
00:38:33.960 and now we waste harder money on OnlyFans
00:38:36.840 and just simp for girls that we're never going to see.
00:38:39.920 This is the nature of men nowadays.
00:38:41.800 we used to build railroads we fought in wars and now we're here saying mommy on only fans this is
00:38:49.800 this is
00:38:58.360 seen as the prize the man or the woman the woman
00:39:02.200 watches right after this is this video i'm so glad that he made this video and after dark about
00:39:06.120 the i talk about let's finish this first though this is not boring enough to skip i mean i'm all
00:39:11.160 All the good things that have happened from nations, sure, you can attribute that to men.
00:39:14.020 Every bad thing is also attributed to men.
00:39:15.540 I'm not using this as an argument to say men are bad and shouldn't be leaders.
00:39:18.620 What I'm saying is you can point to any person that did a bad job,
00:39:22.320 and then you can latch on to their gender and say that's the reason why that gender shouldn't do something.
00:39:25.160 It's not a good example.
00:39:26.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:39:26.940 I do want to go back to you saying a woman as a leader and how some of those things might not be fit to be president.
00:39:31.000 I think that when we talk about a lot of the problems men are facing,
00:39:33.880 a woman being president could actually help some of those,
00:39:36.860 especially in facilitating a society we're talking about your feelings is is more accepted
00:39:41.180 um i do believe in a 100 merit-based society which is why i believe that anybody man or woman gay or
00:39:46.620 straight black or white can be president if they have the merit to be so but i think that to say
00:39:50.880 that just because a woman makes some decisions differently would somehow have a negative impact
00:39:55.020 on society is all just based off of assumption when it could actually have a very positive one
00:39:58.320 the gender vick and mine says hey cico i've been watching you fnf and tate uh pearl for a while now
00:40:03.020 all of you changed my mind it absolutely saved me from a depression now i'm doing i'm in the real
00:40:07.180 world gym doing push-ups thank you all keep going girl keep going bro your pay gap is real
00:40:11.960 no it's not i agree you know where it is real
00:40:17.140 that the pay gap is real um but i don't agree with the studies that when i went when i modeled
00:40:23.900 for nike the i think i don't have a fucking nda anymore when i modeled for nike the women who did
00:40:29.900 the exact same work the same amount of time frame doing the same shoots just putting on backpacks
00:40:33.760 and sweatpants they got paid twice the amount that the men got paid for the same job that's the wage
00:40:39.560 gap and they don't talk about that a lot of people used to say that it's solely based because of
00:40:44.300 being a woman rather than taking into account career preference time taking off the actual way
00:40:48.220 you do your job there's a lot of other variables that go into these studies and a lot of times i
00:40:52.040 see the feminist movement say oh if you're a woman you're going to make less than a man and it's just
00:40:55.040 a lot more complex than that so i i agree that it's a nuanced conversation so there's like two
00:40:59.040 things that i want to put on my dad right do you think my dad raised my brother and i and my sister
00:41:03.080 the same obviously not no i would hope not well yeah but like in the sense that my dad pushed me
00:41:08.080 into different things than he pushed my sister towards i think women are raised in a way where
00:41:12.520 they're not encouraged to pursue their interests and now we're starting to get to a generation
00:41:15.540 where i think that might happen but it's going to take some time but then this the second one is
00:41:19.280 going to be that you get what you negotiate and this is i can only give personal experience again
00:41:23.120 my dad has worked in hr company they offer men more at the start than they do women because men
00:41:28.800 are more likely
00:41:30.320 to negotiate anyways,
00:41:31.320 women are more likely
00:41:31.940 to take the first thing
00:41:32.620 that is offered.
00:41:33.120 That's true, yeah.
00:41:34.280 And that is the thing
00:41:35.100 where they take advantage
00:41:36.100 of the fact that
00:41:37.100 they know women
00:41:37.740 feel uncomfortable
00:41:39.020 in a male-dominated space,
00:41:40.100 so you're going to get
00:41:40.900 a job interview,
00:41:41.580 you're getting interviewed
00:41:42.040 by a man,
00:41:42.480 everyone you saw
00:41:42.860 when you walked in
00:41:43.280 for the most part
00:41:43.680 was a man,
00:41:44.100 and then they offer you a salary,
00:41:45.320 you're going to be
00:41:45.660 a little bit less likely
00:41:46.380 to push back,
00:41:47.200 and that's my personal experience.
00:41:48.260 But that's not on the company
00:41:48.980 in that example,
00:41:49.560 that's on the women,
00:41:50.480 unfortunately, right?
00:41:51.160 They have to be
00:41:51.600 their own best advocate,
00:41:52.240 they have to stand up
00:41:52.820 for themselves,
00:41:53.060 they have to negotiate better you look at this issue more when you look at but when you look at
00:41:57.320 this issue of the gender wage gap also too it's it's the narrative that surrounds is absolutely
00:42:01.460 factually untrue you're looking at the average income of or salaries of men and the average
00:42:05.520 incomes of women and obviously there's gonna be a difference men and women choose to do different
00:42:08.340 things like you said male feminists are in it to get laid male feminists aren't in it to get laid
00:42:15.360 a lot of them actually believe in the garbage and they they like getting the woke points they like
00:42:22.640 feeling good about themselves i'm excited for this one because i don't like women sexually
00:42:30.140 so this is going to be a very interesting conversation um i think that if you are a
00:42:35.480 straight male the way you view women women subconsciously is always going to be have
00:42:40.600 something to do with sex right on on just a fundamental level just in nature now that might
00:42:46.080 not be the whole premise but i do think that it has something to do with it yeah i think like
00:42:49.480 Again, the problem with these statements is like they're general.
00:42:51.920 I think there are men out there that are predatory and are posing as feminists.
00:42:55.660 Chad, what do you think?
00:42:56.220 You think the male feminists are just trying to get laid?
00:42:58.280 Into the pants of women.
00:42:59.620 Even on a more like micro level, like, so I was literally just watching a recent Jubilee video.
00:43:04.840 And it was one about a man.
00:43:05.700 He was a self-proclaimed pickup artist.
00:43:07.920 And this is almost a direct quote of what he says.
00:43:10.440 He goes, oh, hell yeah, I fuck with feminism.
00:43:12.320 You know, I like to think I'm a feminist.
00:43:13.560 I fuck with feminism.
00:43:15.400 And I think it's...
00:43:16.200 I fuck with feminism.
00:43:20.620 Kind of emblematic of like,
00:43:21.760 there are men that don't understand
00:43:23.780 the full gravity of how people
00:43:25.280 who are real feminists
00:43:26.280 feel about the situation.
00:43:27.360 Shut up.
00:43:27.680 And they kind of see it as like this,
00:43:29.120 like, oh, this cool, hot social issue.
00:43:30.640 And if I talk about it,
00:43:31.620 it puts me in the group
00:43:32.520 of the good people.
00:43:34.040 And I don't think it's always heinous
00:43:35.360 while there are people
00:43:36.220 that are doing that.
00:43:37.040 Some of it's just like
00:43:37.740 such blatant ignorance
00:43:39.340 that they lack the understanding.
00:43:40.700 Yeah, I think even the
00:43:41.600 posing of the question
00:43:43.320 is indicative of the truth
00:43:45.460 of the matter
00:43:45.860 that I think a lot of the time it is that
00:43:47.080 because if you align yourself
00:43:48.160 with a lot of the more traditionally toxic masculine traits
00:43:50.540 and you're not viewed as on team woman,
00:43:52.340 then you're not going to be in line
00:43:53.560 with a lot of Western women in today's society.
00:43:55.520 I have a few friends that go to these parties
00:43:57.260 and they're like, oh yeah, fuck Andrew Tate.
00:43:58.980 They all watch him, but they'll be like,
00:44:00.000 oh, fuck Andrew Tate, just so they can get laid
00:44:01.580 because they know that's how a woman will feel.
00:44:03.040 They try to like, fuck Andrew Tate,
00:44:05.320 then wait, it's just a pussy.
00:44:06.240 Oh wow, they listen to me or oh wow, they agree with me
00:44:08.180 and feel a little more connected.
00:44:09.680 And I think for me as someone who believes genuinely
00:44:11.780 in the fact that men and women are equal,
00:44:13.540 but I don't go around parading myself as a feminist
00:44:15.180 Because the only thing that I could think that justifies being a third-weight feminist, being a feminist today, is you must just want to get laid.
00:44:20.840 Because there's no reason to believe in all these crazy things that go after your identity as a man, that seek to strip you of your masculinity, that perpetuate these terrible ideas that men are bad and evil and all these things that you can't be a provider, you can't be a protector, all these things.
00:44:32.800 I think that has to be the reason.
00:44:34.960 It's funny, like, I'm going to address it once.
00:44:37.520 I've been having to scroll away from the donors the whole time.
00:44:40.180 This fucking dude.
00:44:40.900 Right when I said that
00:44:42.860 People tried to like
00:44:43.560 Fuck Andrew Tate
00:44:44.820 They're waiting to some pussy
00:44:45.780 This dodo just popped up
00:44:47.260 You're ducking
00:44:48.180 You brainwashed this OnlyFans girl
00:44:50.000 That all these simps are in here about
00:44:51.400 You're sick like Andrew
00:44:52.720 You're disgusting
00:44:53.720 She's not gonna fuck you bro
00:44:55.900 She's not gonna fuck you
00:44:58.660 You know who she's fucking
00:45:00.520 The misogynist
00:45:02.320 She's fucking the toxic
00:45:05.620 Problematic
00:45:06.520 Disgusting dude
00:45:07.900 That's who she's fucking
00:45:09.540 women don't respect people who fucking simp for them they don't why would you want to be with the
00:45:16.300 guy that's already giving you everything are you dumb everybody wants what they can't have
00:45:22.880 wake the fuck up stop thinking that like i love you so much oh simping is a fucking disease bro
00:45:30.340 worse than covid holy fuck these guys are sad bro
00:45:34.660 jesus christ giving me money in my chat you you see like if your sipping has gone so far
00:45:44.420 you ran out of money to give out to some bitches only fans and you're here in my chat giving me
00:45:49.560 money is that all you know how to do is simp you fucking losers not specifically you simps in
00:45:56.480 general like how far in it where the only thing that you know how to do is spend money on the
00:46:02.480 internet holy fuck bro all stream i gotta scroll scroll scroll bro the amount of simps coping right
00:46:11.220 now is just gee have you seen it and people in the chat are like what are you talking about
00:46:15.480 we're watching a video about feminism and people here are crying about an only fans girl get over
00:46:20.280 yourself i know like part of it and i've been i've been having to dodge it for like three streams
00:46:25.640 because it's like the amount of like simps crying in here these sad incels it's just and then people
00:46:31.080 like, who are you talking about? No one cares, bro. It doesn't matter. It's lonely fans. It's
00:46:37.260 designed to take away your energy and your soul. It's making you sad. You're not going to find
00:46:43.580 happiness on a porn site. You're not going to find a connection on an OnlyFans site. Get a life.
00:46:49.640 Dude.
00:46:56.380 Like, no, some people are saying that they're trolling, bro. I don't think there's been like
00:47:00.940 specific people three four days in a row not just one dude just a group of simps who are upset
00:47:06.220 because they think an only fans girl likes me and they're just coping it's not i know it's not
00:47:11.540 trolling because this is the mentality sheesh bro the amount of money i've made from these people
00:47:18.060 it's not trolling because that's all they know how to do is spend money to people online for a
00:47:22.140 glimpse of attention so i've been ignoring it for three days because you're just supposed to move on
00:47:25.900 and you know they're lonely
00:47:27.280 and they really want attention.
00:47:28.880 But bro,
00:47:31.700 man up.
00:47:35.360 Some of us don't identify with it.
00:47:36.960 Me personally,
00:47:37.680 I don't identify with masculinity.
00:47:38.980 I might show masculinity,
00:47:40.960 but I don't think feminism
00:47:42.040 is taking anything away from me.
00:47:43.220 But I think that's a societal problem.
00:47:44.420 The fact that masculinity itself
00:47:45.580 has become a dirty word
00:47:46.680 is a problem.
00:47:47.420 I didn't say it's a dirty word.
00:47:48.260 I'm saying it doesn't matter.
00:47:48.660 I just want you to choose
00:47:49.300 not to identify with it anymore.
00:47:50.140 Wait, wait.
00:47:50.500 Because when you say it...
00:47:51.800 Lonely fans in the chat.
00:47:53.180 Nothing in my heart feels anything.
00:47:54.400 It's just a word.
00:47:55.020 It's just a...
00:47:55.660 I don't think anything I do is because I'm a man.
00:47:58.040 I think that it's because of who I am.
00:47:59.760 Now, genuinely, and Chad, have you ever noticed that?
00:48:02.780 I've talked to a lot of people, like my friends from back at college and stuff like that,
00:48:06.920 and they've had conversations.
00:48:08.980 I've had people message me and say, there's even women in the chat laughing, Jennifer.
00:48:13.660 There have been conversations where people would be like, fuck Sneeko.
00:48:17.080 Sneeko's toxic.
00:48:19.360 Trying to get like woke points at a conversation.
00:48:21.460 Have you ever had those conversations?
00:48:23.440 It never happens when I'm around.
00:48:24.900 but afterwards my friends would call me up and like yo this guy I even had a cameraman who was
00:48:29.480 in a hostel in Europe and randomly I came up in conversation and they started shaming the
00:48:34.860 cameraman for working with me saying that I'm encouraging bad behavior but people really be
00:48:40.180 out here trying to say fuck sneeko into some pussy have you have does that ever happen
00:48:52.280 No? You don't know what I'm talking about?
00:48:59.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:49:03.280 Well, let's hear it.
00:49:05.280 I think, to your point, asking, like, why would any man be a feminist?
00:49:09.280 So I just think that we don't all view feminism the way you do.
00:49:12.280 Similar to the way the Black Lives Matter movement has been moved and changed
00:49:15.280 and developed in terms of the way that people identify it,
00:49:17.280 the things that you speak about when you talk about third wave feminism
00:49:19.280 is not what I mean when I say that I am a male feminist.
00:49:22.460 And so, yeah, no, if you can't understand that,
00:49:25.720 me wanting to make the world a more equal
00:49:27.380 and level playing field for my two daughters,
00:49:29.020 for my wife, for my mother, my mother-in-law,
00:49:31.200 and standing in front of people
00:49:33.100 who want to take liberties away from them,
00:49:35.020 that's the reason why I am a male feminist.
00:49:37.000 It's a perpetuation of oppression
00:49:38.400 that I'm trying to dismantle.
00:49:39.660 And for me, I think we're taking this
00:49:40.940 from a very heteronormative perspective, right?
00:49:43.140 All my friends aren't straight women,
00:49:44.540 so I'm not gonna look at my non-binary or LGBTQ friends
00:49:47.640 and be like, oh, just because I can't have sex with you,
00:49:49.200 I'm not going to fight for your rights.
00:49:50.500 There is no personal gain for just saying that we should be there.
00:49:53.280 Well, there are two things can be true.
00:49:54.080 I agree with you.
00:49:54.700 And I think a lot of us agree on what we're talking about.
00:49:56.960 It's just these labels are in the way of getting us to that.
00:49:58.620 It's also a blanket statement.
00:49:59.240 One thing to build on top of, too, is to an extent,
00:50:01.940 leading men to want to take advantage of women
00:50:04.080 is the very pressure put on by other men.
00:50:06.140 If you're not sleeping around, if you're not getting laid,
00:50:08.880 you aren't working.
00:50:09.840 And that doesn't come from women, at least from my experience.
00:50:12.080 That's patriarchal culture.
00:50:12.860 If men were a little bit like, so I'll say this now.
00:50:15.320 I didn't lose my virginity until I was 22.
00:50:16.920 Now I'm fine with that.
00:50:17.760 if men were a little bit like like so i'll say this now i didn't lose my virginity until i was
00:50:25.860 22. that's why you're a male feminist now i'm fine with that if you asked me at 21 how i felt about
00:50:34.240 that i would change the subject as quickly as i possibly could because i was ashamed
00:50:36.740 i mean i was ashamed of it but you know that's part of the patriarchy
00:50:41.220 this is gonna be the last prompt i want to hear everyone speak i want everyone to get their voice
00:50:46.640 Be mindful of folks that are trying to talk.
00:50:49.280 Step forward if you agree with the prompt.
00:50:52.300 I like living in a patriarchal society.
00:50:56.340 Yes.
00:50:59.260 Nobody?
00:51:03.080 What the?
00:51:11.840 I would say patriarchal society.
00:51:13.620 Again, I've mentioned the scriptural basis for this, but I think patriarchal society is the way that society functions best.
00:51:19.980 A patriarchy is just a man-led society.
00:51:21.920 So I think everybody else here hates, like...
00:51:25.420 We've kind of flipped the term on its head to mean something that it doesn't mean, to say that a patriarchy is a society...
00:51:29.760 This guy's been based the whole show, I think.
00:51:31.080 That's not what a patriarchy is.
00:51:32.580 So I think if you have a patriarchy operating properly, you have men that are responsible in taking care of their families, taking care of the women of society.
00:51:39.360 And in turn, the women have equal opportunities to pursue whatever career they want, to be a mom, to be a wife, and to do the things that they want to do as well.
00:51:47.400 Autobots, roll out!
00:51:48.720 So, I'll go first.
00:51:51.340 This is a little bit of a personal, emotional thing.
00:51:56.220 At the beginning of September, I lost my brother to cancer.
00:52:01.000 And I took about two or three weeks off work.
00:52:04.340 And then I really started feeling, you know, the financial impact.
00:52:07.480 and I have my girlfriend you know people in my life telling me that they want to help me out
00:52:13.540 financially but I have this thing internally within me that feels like a leech in some way
00:52:19.340 shape or form that is because of this thing that I this expectation that we put on men to be
00:52:23.740 providers. It's really fucking hard. I have an expectation to be a man. Let me play a sad song
00:52:43.220 for you on the world. And I can't explain why. I would have liked to have a little bit more time
00:52:47.140 than three weeks before I had to start worrying about fucking money again after my brother passed
00:52:51.480 away. And I do feel like that kind of is a direct result of the patriarchy. And I know that it is
00:52:56.720 myself. It's my personal feelings. But I think it stems from the society that I grew up in that I'm
00:53:01.240 even feeling these things to be. Yeah, to start, you know, I want to say I'm really sorry for your
00:53:08.160 loss because I can't even imagine what it's like to lose a loved one. So I want to thank you for
00:53:14.140 sharing your story. It's really important for people to hear. You better cry. But I don't think
00:53:17.680 that it's accurate to blame a horrific situation on one aspect of society or the patriarchy or
00:53:23.340 this without any solid basis. So I think that's a fair response. And to clarify my statement just
00:53:27.480 a little bit, that's more of a communal problem. I wish there was a little bit more of a stronger
00:53:31.300 community sense within our country. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like a patriarchal
00:53:34.400 society is not one of support. It's one of merit. It's one of bootstraps. It's one of strength.
00:53:38.920 Competition. Yeah, it's competition. You said that a merit-based society is somehow correlated
00:53:42.760 with the patriarchy. And I don't see the correlation there because if you look anywhere
00:53:46.380 in nature everything is merit-based you know lions in the safari it's about strength it's about you
00:53:50.780 know competition that's just how our world works and my biggest flaw with feminism today or any
00:53:54.900 social movement really is that some things are just inherent to nature so to try to solve um
00:53:59.300 equal outcome and solve all these problems it's just naive and it takes away from actually solving
00:54:03.480 the issues that are in front of us because it's it's a delusion there'll always be winners and
00:54:06.720 losers yeah yeah yeah i just wanted to go back and you know i've been we've been asking what
00:54:10.480 does patriarchy mean right you know i don't think it just means male led what i'm trying to dismantle
00:54:15.880 is the institutions in our society reinforcing that males are superior.
00:54:20.900 A lot of societal institutions and staples of our society
00:54:23.980 are reinforcing that narrative that men alone have to take on that mantle.
00:54:28.160 So one of the chats said, bro, my brother died on my birthday and I kept moving on.
00:54:31.600 Look, I play that violin sound because it's just like, you know, three weeks.
00:54:38.240 The expectation is you keep going to get it.
00:54:40.400 What would your brother want you to do?
00:54:41.520 Would your brother want you to sit around and cry?
00:54:43.140 Or would your brother want you to go into work tomorrow?
00:54:44.680 i understand that for a day or two you could be upset you get to put three weeks someone's got
00:54:50.100 to pay the bills bro like the business is getting life life goes on life goes on whether you are
00:54:57.780 going to be part of it or not that's the truth of being the one to provide being the one to lead the
00:55:04.240 charge on fixing a problem right where like what tucker was saying we all experience emotions and
00:55:11.600 react independently and we look for community. Yeah, so I think a direct combat towards the
00:55:17.400 patriarchy is emotional intelligence that we haven't actually talked much about today. We keep
00:55:21.500 going back to business, money, and all these different things because those are things
00:55:24.080 associated with manhood. But if you really want to shift the dynamic, it's about how do we own
00:55:29.180 the emotional parts of ourselves as men? And that is not a conversation that is had in society
00:55:32.840 enough, nor is it supported. In a patriarchal society, it impacts men in a way where we feel
00:55:37.080 like we can't let the armor down that's that that's what the difference between third you know
00:55:41.380 you're saying like third wave feminism versus like first and second wave i feel like now it's
00:55:45.380 about superiority when you when you're saying like you're mansplaining or when you're like
00:55:48.560 playing that men do this or men you know take advantage and men do that it makes it as we're
00:55:52.280 your enemy when in reality it should be more about like working as a team right i have a clarifying
00:55:56.300 question so you were describing that it's shifting to matriarchy right yeah matriarchy just like more
00:56:00.900 like more like being against like when you're demonizing men like their actions in general
00:56:04.460 So, like, when we're moving towards a socially matriarchical society, it's mansplaining and it's men being canceled.
00:56:09.660 But when patriarchy is in place, we're dealing with issues of wealth.
00:56:13.860 We're dealing with issues of health care, whether you consider it health care or not.
00:56:16.600 We're dealing with issues of safety.
00:56:18.140 We're dealing with issues of liberty.
00:56:19.640 We're dealing with issues of choice.
00:56:21.340 It seems that matriarchy is less, I guess, oppressively heavy because all I have to deal with is you not liking what I have to say.
00:56:29.300 Whereas in a patriarchy, I can't make as much money.
00:56:32.520 That's worse.
00:56:33.300 Well, it's not just about disagreeing about whether or not it exists.
00:56:36.140 And the fact of the matter is, even in a patriarchal society which doesn't exist,
00:56:39.280 men and women can still go and make the same amount of money.
00:56:41.320 If women majored in higher paying fields of study, they would make more money.
00:56:44.440 When we talk about men's mental health, I separate it from patriarchy.
00:56:47.380 Because I think that to be expressive about what you're feeling and what you're going through...
00:56:51.380 Men talking about their feelings, it's just kind of...
00:56:53.940 You have to be strong.
00:56:55.160 And being strong, I associate that with being a man, being masculine.
00:56:58.740 Maybe society would like to beat you up for that.
00:57:00.980 Maybe that's why men are likelier to commit suicide.
00:57:03.300 but that is still an example of strength i think that as we get further and further along the
00:57:06.820 generations we need to start preaching to young men the type of strength that you were talking
00:57:11.220 about self-awareness discipline and honesty emotional honesty not being tough and not like
00:57:18.260 you know being able to go through a lot but being aware when you're going through something when
00:57:21.700 you're struggling being able to articulate that right and doing it to the right people at the
00:57:25.380 right time i think that is what strength is and i think that that's a positive message that we
00:57:28.660 could that we could communicate to the next generation about masculinity we ended on
00:57:32.020 on Consensus. Yes, that is a wrap
00:57:33.880 on... Oh, okay!
00:57:41.800 That's it.
00:57:42.300 Is this your job?