SNEAKO - January 09, 2023
SNEAKO Reacts To Male Feminists VS Anti-Feminists!
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Summary
In this episode, the boys debate whether or not women have it harder than men in the dating world. They also debate if women are really as hard as men think they are. And of course, we all know that women were born with value.
Transcript
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I want to watch this debate. It goes perfectly with what I'm talking about.
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Do women really have it harder? Male feminists versus anti-feminists from Jubilee.
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I can think that justifies being a feminist today is you must just want to get laid.
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There's no reason to believe in all of these crazy things that seek to strip you of your masculinity,
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perpetuate these terrible ideas that men are evil and all these things.
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Bro, this dude is about to spit this whole video.
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and all the disenfranchisement that they would claim
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A lot of these careers are way easier to get into for women
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than they are for men because they're looking to hire women because of feminism yeah like in
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divorce and stuff they get more property the kids rights all that yeah but more so i think that from
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the jump actually have it easier like men need to be a provider they're taught to be tough oh why
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are you crying don't be a girl but when a girl is crying or a girl is upset everybody jumps to come
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and help her out the difference is women are never really lonely women don't experience loneliness
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like men do women are expected to stay at home and they're not they don't have the same pressure
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like I moved out of the house when I was like 14 I first got my own apartment when I was 19
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and since then I've been a lot but the same pressure for women it's not women are expected
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to rely on their parents longer to stay at home with the family longer and then they're handed
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off to the guy that they end up spending time with for the most part and even when they're
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upset there's always a friend to call there's always a dick to cry on there's always a shoulder
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to lean on men experience loneliness real loneliness but you're not supposed to talk
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about it you're not supposed to victimize yourself about it because people just no one can't no one
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wants to hear shut up get over it no one cares it's funny it's funny like when a guy's crying
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look at this stupid guy crying like everybody laughs goofy if a guy like gets his dick cut
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off by his crazy ex-girlfriend they go haha dickless dave hey dickless dave oh she threw
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your dick in the dumpster out this day come have a beer yo yo dave dickless dave show everybody
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your dick hole show everybody the hole where your dick's supposed to be now trust me trust me it's
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hilarious bro this she cut it off yeah and she that was the guy and then and she threw it in
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the dumpster yo dave show your dick hole put your dick hole out haha fucking dave i love you
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you fucking idiot look at you no dick ah stupid no one cares haha thanks to the 20 yo i'm back i
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let's go chat did you do it with me or were you fucking
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Anything that happens usually they're a princess
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Well yeah because with women they're born with their value
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They can create life and they're extremely valuable
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From birth for men it's not really the same way
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You have to make something of yourself to be respected
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A man can't go to a rich businessman or like a businesswoman
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and be like, I'm good looking, let me come to your yacht.
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Just a second ago, you were saying that a pretty woman
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and that would be kind of her ticket on, right?
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Okay, so did that help women vote at all, being pretty?
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Because, I mean, when we're talking about women's lives being...
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Would you rather be on a yacht or be in a polling booth in line at a public school?
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Would you rather be pretty and be able to get on a yacht or have your liberties?
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They already have the right to vote for a long time.
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i think something you specifically what the was that argument well male feminists are so
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retarded quickly said shows to me why women don't have it easier i think it was you who said women
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already have their value their value is already obvious because they can have children i don't
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want to put you into the box but there are large amounts of men look what this male feminist looks
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like once again once again crack the code women are people that have children and then they raise
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the child and they be quiet and i think that is a problem i think what was really evident and look
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When both of y'all came up and talked was how indoctrinated into the patriarchy you are.
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You both come up and say, as men, we have to prove something.
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And those expectations that you put on yourself is a direct result of patriarchy and the systems that feminism is trying to dismantle.
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This dude is saying wanting to prove yourself is a system of indoctrination.
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Being woke is just justifying extensively that you're a failure.
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As are the values that women have that when they were born that you're talking about.
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Men and women are both equal under God and in value as human beings.
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In Genesis you have a creation of both men and women
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If we're operating in a country where there's a separation
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What's the correlation, that's why, another reason I started
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and i don't want to be that genuinely i don't want to be like them
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there must be a reason why they don't believe in god
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to not give rights to people i'm probably going to explode people using their own personal
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ideologies as an excuse to implement legislation over other people's lives are simply just not
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okay with the fact that they can't control everything around them back to the prompt i
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I mean, I don't think that women have it easier than they think they do.
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And I think to just make blanket statements like women in society think they have it easy
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or men in society have it harder or whatever you want to say, I just think it's kind of naive.
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Sure, maybe some women think they have it easier, but that might not be because they're a woman.
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It might just be because of their own set of life challenges and vice versa.
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And one of the reasons that I am so passionately anti-feminist is because I believe that feminism pits men against women.
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Men and women may be equal today, but they are not the same.
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But also, too, women are under a pressing assault today in this country.
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They're losing their ability to compete in sports, beauty pageants, also just basic things like that to people that identify as women.
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So now you have conservatives having to fight for women's equality in these spaces.
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You're making some pretty blanket statements saying feminists don't care about it.
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And you say, you think that all women just are against men.
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There are plenty of feminists who are very anti-woman.
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where you have people who will attack Kayleigh McEnany and Kellyanne Conway
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When you talked about the pressures of being a man
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and having to provide and having to prove your value as a man,
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I think those are real challenges that men face.
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by how aggressive men feel like they need to be
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to be able to secure the role that they have to play in society.
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But the reality of today is that because of the systems that we're in,
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the patriarchy is negatively impacting not only women, but also men.
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So I'll just center the conversation around the very fact that, you know, we're a group of eight men.
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The optics of eight men in a room talking about when women do and don't deserve.
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the optics so you're not you're changing your actual opinion because of how you're going to
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offend people what a fucking pussy to get an abortion is it's a bad look so like for me
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say what the fuck you think stand on something don't just believe in shit because you don't
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want to offend woke people what a fucking idiot i have a girlfriend there might be some reasons
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on a personal level where her and i having that conversation together i might say oh i think we
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should do this, I think we should do that. On a legislative level, I don't feel confident enough
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to legislate when someone is and isn't allowed to get health care. Because that's what abortion
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is, it's health care. One of the paramount ideologies of, I guess, being a quote-unquote
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male feminist is just the ability to mind your own business. Just to be able to say that this
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is the wrong reason to have an abortion, you're already headed down the wrong path.
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yeah so being an anti-feminist i i look at this and i say chad wl abortion hey well i am more
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religious as well as i'm so i want to say like i'm more like pro-life right but if a woman decides
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that they want to not give birth it doesn't it doesn't matter the reason you know maybe that's
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not the question the question is there's no wrong reason to get an abortion you know it's a wrong
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reason to get an abortion i don't feel like raising my baby so i'm gonna kill it it's a wrong
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reason to have an abortion simple simple you should be sitting down bro read more bible quotes
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maybe she's not she's not wealthy enough maybe you know the father left her you know there's so
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many reasons and then i also look at like just gun violence and how we're like birthing kids and we
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raise them and send it to school knowing that it can get killed i don't know i would feel like
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it's like not a safe it's not the best world to be exactly exactly you see how the woke people
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got brainwashed to think that they shouldn't even have kids it's not the best world to raise a child
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who made you believe that did you come to that conclusion or was it mainstream news there's a
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reason that woke people say that nonsense i've heard that so much uh there's no reason to like
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raise a kid in this climate of the no cnn you seeing syrian babies wash up on the shore from
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cnn made you think that you shouldn't have kids that's the most beautiful thing that we can do
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is start a family shut up only woke people believe this i think uh a patriarchal um element even in
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your answer not to combat or what have you um the idea of trying to cycle cycle through the reasons
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why and going yeah i guess those make sense is still in my opinion patriarchal even though i was
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on the feminist side on that topic it feels like i was put in a position where i was framed as
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wrong it felt like you are no he's speaking way zesty to be on our side yo jubilee can you get
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someone like every time we do this video there's just an overwhelming fruity bias can you get
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someone better i'm allowed to have this opinion on this topic because you're not a woman and i
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think that's kind of bullshit to be honest off the top of my head i know that was mentioned earlier
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that abortion is health care and i first want to push back on that abortion is not health care
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healthcare preserves life it protects it uh it doesn't take it away it doesn't eliminate what
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about the woman's life but when you exterminate a child that is doing oh but it's not always a
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child right so it's it's a discussion when it becomes a child or not that's not a gray area
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that's not a lot it is actually scientifically proven it is a it is a separate strain of DNA
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at conception if you ask any doctor but if you took that clump of cells out would it survive
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it's not a clump of cells that's why you call it a termination scientifically it is a life at birth
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and scientifically it is at conception, it is a life, but it is not a human.
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So look, though, the thing is, so when you say it's about protecting life,
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abortions are protecting lives of thousands of women who maybe are not able to have...
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But you're already prioritizing that other life over the woman who's carrying that life.
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Because of patriarchy, y'all are basically saying that this...
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See, these cells are more important than the one.
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I think it's absolutely shameful how flippantly our society has begun to treat the topic of abortion.
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You are literally exterminating an unborn child.
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and treating grown-ass people like they are children.
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We're going straight to women and making it their problem.
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and what abortion does is it puts all of reproductive rights
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in the hands of women when it takes both parties.
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We've kind of given a free pass for people to be a lot more carefree about who they sleep with
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and not really think twice about the ramifications that may come of it.
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But again, we're also, once again, we're talking, we're zooming in on a high level on the end result.
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We're not talking about the systemic issues that cause women to have abortions.
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We're not talking about the lack of resources that make people feel like they cannot sustain a pregnancy or sustain a life.
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And those are things that are caused by the way men have set up society.
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So instead of talking about the actual issues from the top down and going the whole way,
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we go to the most oppressed person involved and make it their fault.
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being a man explaining something how is explaining part of the patriarchy
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oh god all the sword boys this is a good one great question look at it i frequently come
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across videos online where like a man will respond back to a broad generalization about women and
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they'll be like oh you're just mansplaining it as if tell christine w single proud of you homie
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l abortion w bible w jesus year shout out jesus men aren't allowed to have a voice in the
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conversation um and i think that the term itself it's just not really defined and mansplaining is
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just not real like it just it literally is a man explaining something and these people get angry
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about it like that's the reality of the times in which we live and it also it hurts the ability of
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men to have conversations with women because you think oh wow if i explain this issue to her and
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i'm going to be accused of mansplaining or i'm going to be accused of being sexist because i
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don't think she understands it it's toxic and it hurts women it hurts men and it's just it's just
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not a way for us it's a way to encourage females to be delusional by not having a man be like no
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you sound dumb and at its core it's completely hypocritical because the feminist plight is that
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women need to have a voice and they're being told they can't have a voice and then they turn around
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and do the exact same thing and say you're mansplaining me you shouldn't have a voice
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about this topic because you're a man and we're targeted because of our identity and no one cares
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about it because we're supposedly in positions of power so we don't get to be victims we don't get
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to say, oh, you should feel bad for us because we're men. So we don't get to have the luxury
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of having the benefit of the doubt of society or the media or any of those things. And it's
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I'm going to speak about mansplaining from a different perspective because you guys are
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talking about controversial topics. I'm going to talk about it from just like a day-to-day
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perspective. In my relationship with my partner, how I try to be really mindful of mansplaining
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is when she's when she is sharing her struggle I think a tendency that can be conditioned in me
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through just how men dominate and want to have to solve problems and all that is I want to jump in
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and just solve it and try to explain what's happening here and try to question her experience
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and be like hey like yeah when a woman is talking don't question her well did you think about this
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did you think about that well don't don't ask women to think I I see this that don't tell women
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what you see not inherently in itself comes off as mansplaining because what is the counter to
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soy boys will prioritize optics over truth you see this the second time that it's come up that
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they'll ignore reality in order to preserve people's feelings look at that right now the war
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is feelings versus truth emotion versus logic and emotion is winning mansplaining is actually
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getting consent from the other person how do you want to be supported do you want do you want me to
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support you and listen to you or do you want me to help solve problems it's also mansplaining is
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also not just having a man having an opinion that's not the situation the idea is when a man
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interjects an opinion that he either is not fully educated on or does not have the appropriate
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empathy to be able to talk about how are you coming up with your own definition mansplaining
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is simple man explaining look at well how you bring in empathy and that has nothing to do with
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the word he just made up his own def that's my that's my issue then feel free when a woman does
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that to say you're woman explaining i don't think that there's a reason that term doesn't exist
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and that's because you're not allowed to do that towards women in society if you did that
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it would be just fine you just invented it would be just fine i think that i think the difference
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is though when that had if that were to happen to men it wouldn't quiet our voices to to being
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completely unheard my wife is a is a physics and math teacher if she has the answer to a question
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this is lava right here and in a staff meeting she's gonna have to be louder than the men in
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the room because that is the way society has conditioned people to operate especially hold on
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especially in males no it hasn't you know it's a good example of somebody who was able to speak
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up in a room without having to raise your voice to sound like a man when erudite type of one of
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you know that is erudite is um she's kind of like a destiny type stream or something like that
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she's feminine she's a married woman and she came on the fresh and fit panel as a girl not even as
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a special guest and the whole time she was soft-spoken and she was being smart and she
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was staying in her feminine frame and every time she spoke everybody listened not because she had
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to raise her voice but because we respect feminine women stop telling women that they need to act
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like men to get respect nobody respects a girl boss you look stupid it only looks good in a meg
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the stallion song in real life everyone's gonna laugh when you turn your back away if you're a
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woman be feminine and you'll get respect dominated spaces yeah that's what mansplaining is i have one
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more question is it about the word yeah that's what i feel is it about the word i'm like words
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when you say mansplaining you have to understand that subconsciously we're already creating a
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divide when really a woman can mansplain by definition the way you guys are explaining it
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and that's just as wrong as if a man does it so why is it called mansplaining why isn't it just
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disrespectful so so when your life is not at stake when you're not being attacked i think you can
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focus on language when you're not at risk you know you live in u.s dude that doesn't matter
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attack every single day women are attacked more but i think from a societal standpoint you guys
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talk a lot about social conditioning and how women feel uncomfortable but don't you think
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this narrative that you're saying right now is contributing to that? Telling women that
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they should be scared when they're in an environment full of men, telling women that
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they are oppressed, they are this, they're that, by telling women they're less than men.
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Let me respond to that. They're not telling them that. They're validating the fact that
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that's the reality. Right. Women should be encouraged to be financially independent
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of men. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. This is what's ruining the family from the inside out.
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All the fucking, why are all the anti-feminists sitting down?
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And I think with that equality comes equal responsibility to be able to provide for yourself.
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And when I think about what could provide oppression, if that were to exist, would be
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this idea that they were tethered to men to live their life what look at his face look at jay-z
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look at fat fat z's face i think if you remove that tethering then obviously women are free to
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do whatever they're more like gazy please and exit very bad situations you know one of the most
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unfortunate stories that you hear so often is that so many women are forced to live in very
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dangerous circumstances because they don't know who's going to provide for their child if they
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leave they don't know who's going to provide for them if they leave and so i think financial
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independence for anyone is always just a good idea yeah i want to speak about this through no
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and you know how i want to raise my daughter i want to raise my daughter so that she
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can be a wife for a man that will provide for her i don't want her to have to work i don't want my
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daughter to have to become a girl boss i don't want her to like sit in you know you know it's
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a tragedy have you ever walked into an office like a dentist's office or something like that
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and then there's this beautiful girl there probably like 25 26 and she's there like answering the
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phone at the front and you're like she's wasting her best years her peak years physically so that
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she could be a girl boss and have a career and all she's doing is okay i'll call you up when you're
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ready like you she thinks that she's like supposed to be career driven and then she finally realizes
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that she wants to have a family when she becomes 36 37 and the attention starts drying out but
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that's the sad part like i'll walk into like a doctor's office or the optometrist and then the
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girl there's like you man you should be at home right now you should be at home
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different lens i think it should be like women should be empowered to be financially independent
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encourage versus empower takes a different like sense of support speaking to um how men feel the
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need to provide. Sometimes when a woman makes more than a man, men can can feel like they're less of
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a man because the woman is taking more of like the boss and like provision kind of like role in the
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household. So I think that it's important to be able to equip women with being able to feel like
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they are empowered. And that that is a feminist thing because it is breaking the gender norms of
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what is masculine and what is feminine role. Yeah, I also think it is important, though,
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in this conversation to recognize the women that don't want to be financially independent in a
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marriage. You know, there's a lot of women in our country that enjoy being mothers. And I think being
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a mother is one of the... Incredibly valuable. Yeah, exactly. And that doesn't necessarily mean
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that they're, you know, stuck in their situation because they're doing something very valuable by
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sacrificing that freedom in order to raise our next generation. It's just giving a choice, right?
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One of them would be the importance of the family.
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I think women should go out and be financially smart
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But being independent of men leaves this notion
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And the problem that this brings is in the family.
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hold on i'm just gonna finish my thought i'll explain with the nuclear family yo bro how
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unlikable like you have and this is for both men and women they're the most happiest when they are
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in that kind of dynamic and to your point about marriages where women makes more than the man
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that's one of the biggest indicators of divorce and i think there's a societal and honestly god
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given responsibility for a man to provide so when men are told that women are going to be independent
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of you, you're stripping away a lot of their purpose and responsibility to be caretakers
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I would also say that the biggest group of people that are on antidepressants, and it's
00:26:10.600
one in four, are women that are 40, have a career, and have no family and no kids, which
00:26:15.520
is the real meaning of life is community, family, and relationships.
00:26:18.540
Can I respond to one specific thing you said, which is the demographic of women over 40
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uh taking antidepressants and you're using that as proof that they're the most depressed group
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um men just kill themselves so like all the men that have killed themselves if they didn't do
00:26:36.400
that and we're still here men would predominantly be more depressed the dumbest argument i've ever
00:26:43.420
heard whenever you argue with the feminists about this they equate it to well women are better than
00:26:48.360
men it's a problem on both sides idiot you fucking soy boy fucking dummy stupid the problem woke
00:26:59.280
ideology affects both of us it's not men versus women well actually men are so stupid that they
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kill themselves you fucking idiot the reason that more women are on antidepressants and more men
00:27:12.180
are deleting themselves is because the downfall the destruction of the family from the inside out
00:27:20.020
it affects both of us it's not men versus women we're on the same team
00:27:24.960
stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid if they didn't do that and we're still here men would
00:27:32.980
predominantly be more depressed there's no basis yeah but also the men statistically kill
00:27:38.520
themselves more. But we're talking about two completely different points. I think he's just
00:27:42.720
saying that that statistic is a little bit difficult to process. I'm saying that it's out of context because the men that get. There's other factors. There's always going to be other factors, but that's a clear indicator that women at some point, whether they started wanting a career, will eventually want to fall into a role of being a mom, having children, because that is what women derive the most happiness from. You've got a lot of studies and stats over here, which is cool. But like when we're talking about financial literacy and financial freedom, there are a lot of women
00:28:08.380
that have the ability that decide to step back all those types of things none of that has to be
00:28:13.900
telling the chest as my husband of the best he steps up in so many ways i came up with a great
00:28:17.160
business idea that lets us both work from home and we are very happy i cook every meal and still
00:28:21.640
have the feminine role perfect perfect but i think you would still agree to let me know that women
00:28:26.880
there's no reason that women should not be encouraged to be financially independent
00:28:30.600
from men just because you came up with that business idea look you found something that
00:28:35.600
gets out of that loophole but congrats you and your family you seem very happy in a way or omitted
00:28:40.060
in order for them to be empowered people should be able to do in their households what they want
00:28:43.860
to do i don't think anybody's trying to take that option away from women i think y'all think people
00:28:48.820
are but i don't think that's really happening but they are they are we see that in society today
00:28:54.040
people demonizing women for choosing to stay at home female empowerment also means empowering
00:29:00.140
women again to make the choice that fits them their choices and what they want to do it is just
00:29:04.940
as powerful just as influential just as important as a choice to make to raise your kids at home if
00:29:09.820
that is what you want to do and also be the ceo of walmart if that's what you choose to do we can
00:29:14.500
empower women to be girl bosses whatever else you whatever you want to say would you empower a male
00:29:20.000
friend if he told you that he was going to quit his job to be a full-time stay-at-home father
00:29:23.660
so i so that no that's good i just want to make sure because like you're only defending women who
00:29:41.020
Why don't you want men? Because they don't want to.
00:29:51.260
What do you mean about that? Are you pro-choices?
00:30:04.180
I'm saying that they have a choice and I'm not for taking choices away from women.
00:30:23.180
Not period. They're all afraid to sit down. They don't want to upset.
00:30:27.180
nah nah nah bro nah i mean obviously you don't know how bad period pain is but they
00:30:33.480
you know what i would sit down here and i'd be like all right but you got to stop
00:30:37.200
justifying your freakish emotions on your period start making some sense just because
00:30:43.100
you're bleeding doesn't mean that you get to be a cunt okay i'm glad no one stepped forward for
00:31:08.480
So I think today in 2022, feminism has changed drastically.
00:31:13.640
and I think it's really turned into demonizing masculinity in men
00:31:20.940
And with that, the only thing that I can think that justifies these crazy things...
00:31:25.380
Oh, my God, I'm stupid. Where were we? Where were we?
00:31:33.700
And I think it's really turned into demonizing masculinity in men
00:31:40.080
and with that, good men are being pushed to the wayside
00:31:47.160
because society is telling them that it's wrong.
00:31:50.740
100%. I think, like, anything that is deemed masculine
00:31:53.900
is seen as now toxic, and I see it all over social media.
00:32:00.480
especially even, like, against or even for yourself
00:32:03.460
without it being, like, weaponized in some way or shape or form.
00:32:07.460
Yeah. It's a shame that feminism has become less about actual equality and more about supremacy.
00:32:12.840
It's not about equal rights between men and women. It's about women being superior to men
00:32:17.340
and women don't even like it anymore. Right. I hear conversations with so many girls that are
00:32:22.400
that are friends of mine. They're like, I hate what feminism has become because it makes me feel
00:32:27.120
as if I'm a victim. And also, too, that men aren't supposed to be men anymore. It almost absolves us
00:32:32.920
of the responsibilities that we have as males in society
00:32:38.140
And innocent men suffer because we're made out to be toxic
00:32:41.080
because we're fulfilling our roles as men in this world.
00:32:59.000
as if they need to be more like men, all you get-
00:33:05.920
And when you have men who are increasingly more feminine,
00:33:08.040
you get men who aren't being men at all anymore.
00:33:11.780
and we see the ripple effects and the consequences of that every single day.
00:33:16.760
When I started hearing y'all talk, y'all have a huge misconception...
00:33:24.920
y'all have a huge misconception of even what feminism is.
00:33:30.440
The goal of feminism is to fight for social, political, and economic equality for everyone to...
00:33:37.260
Equality of opportunity or equality of outcome.
00:33:39.700
And that's when I would say I would be a feminist.
00:33:42.560
But either way, what y'all are talking about is feelings.
00:33:45.420
Y'all are talking about, I don't like how women make me feel in society about crying.
00:33:59.220
it's about being having access which doesn't exist by the way right but anyways
00:34:02.360
hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on no you didn't let me talk though
00:34:06.220
no you didn't let me talk though it's about feelings right you don't want to talk about
00:34:08.600
how men feel let's talk about how women feel let's talk about feminists again it's not about
00:34:11.200
feelings period that's my point it's not other women it's not about feelings period other women
00:34:14.760
wait can we have the prompt again yeah let's cut back to the prompt because it didn't have
00:34:17.420
feelings exactly right innocent men suffer because of feminism and so can i can i pose
00:34:23.220
this question on a day like on a day-by-day basis do you think you're negatively affected
00:34:55.400
to the prompt and then also just i love the ping-ponging but just make sure we don't have
00:34:59.140
five people talking on top of each other all right there's another side to this too it's the
00:35:02.460
patriarchy and so that is what you are talking about it is the pressure to be strong the pressure
00:35:07.740
to protect but in what we all talk about are fit to be president okay are women fit to be president
00:35:12.860
of course all the all the story boys autobots roll out uh what this guy's a sellout bro
00:35:19.260
i mean really this is a no-brainer yeah i think that this is um i expected this to be
00:35:25.380
unanimous but i think this will probably be the most biggest agreement amongst the group today i
00:35:28.700
think anyone who's born in america above the age of 35 that's not a felon you can be you can be
00:35:33.440
present right and i think a lot of times in these conversations of course you can be but the question
00:35:36.680
is if they're fit to be president right we focus on the differences between men and women but just
00:35:41.580
you know based off of studies men and women are very similar creatures i mean we're the same
00:35:44.800
species we think the same on most levels and to say that a woman can't do the same job as a man
00:35:49.820
to me is completely regressive um now i consider myself an anti-feminist today but this is the
00:35:54.500
of question that i would be a feminist for 50 years ago to me this it should be a unanimous uh
00:36:00.020
you know thing stepping forward but i look forward to hearing what what they have to say
00:36:05.620
i think eligibility and optimal option is the difference i think a woman can be eligible to be
00:36:10.340
president i think is it the optimal situation no i would kind of disagree with you where you say men
00:36:14.580
and women are generally the same i think we're completely different in the way that we process
00:36:17.620
information the way that we make choices the way that we build society men are very hierarchical in
00:36:23.840
I think women are a little bit more communitarianism,
00:36:30.420
Where everybody gets one, so you get one, you get one,
00:36:41.220
you work for your living, you provide for your family,
00:36:43.180
I think that's the way that men typically build society.
00:36:45.220
So even a woman whose worldview aligns with yours,
00:36:48.240
you don't think that she would be fit to be president,
00:37:12.020
You inspire people to keep up with the good work.
00:37:15.640
God, and we keep trying to center Christianity as like the know-all, end-all.
00:37:19.360
What about all the religions that had female goddesses and matriarchal systems?
00:37:23.540
We also don't have to sidestep Christianity as if there were not any female leaders in the Bible either.
00:37:27.720
I'm going to go to the, for my reason why, I think it was in London, and it's before their current prime minister.
00:37:32.420
I'm forgetting her name, but she was their mayor for about two months, and she ran away.
00:37:38.440
And I do personally think that women are more emotional beings.
00:37:43.300
There are big differences between us, and those differences are very vast on the spectrum,
00:37:46.660
but we are a lot more similar in the way we process information.
00:37:51.220
I was pretty much trying to go to the point of feminism has created,
00:37:53.840
especially Western women, to be more emotional, more erratical on their decisions.
00:37:58.280
Making and more emotionally charged, and that's where I brought up the London thing,
00:38:01.920
where I feel like that's a good example of that happening, where the pressure got through them.
00:38:12.720
Christian Nixon was because he was getting put into crime.
00:38:19.700
So you're kind of using this one anecdotal evidence of like,
00:38:26.720
Because literally, men led pretty much every nation.
00:38:36.840
and just simp for girls that we're never going to see.
00:38:41.800
we used to build railroads we fought in wars and now we're here saying mommy on only fans this is
00:38:58.360
seen as the prize the man or the woman the woman
00:39:02.200
watches right after this is this video i'm so glad that he made this video and after dark about
00:39:06.120
the i talk about let's finish this first though this is not boring enough to skip i mean i'm all
00:39:11.160
All the good things that have happened from nations, sure, you can attribute that to men.
00:39:15.540
I'm not using this as an argument to say men are bad and shouldn't be leaders.
00:39:18.620
What I'm saying is you can point to any person that did a bad job,
00:39:22.320
and then you can latch on to their gender and say that's the reason why that gender shouldn't do something.
00:39:26.940
I do want to go back to you saying a woman as a leader and how some of those things might not be fit to be president.
00:39:31.000
I think that when we talk about a lot of the problems men are facing,
00:39:33.880
a woman being president could actually help some of those,
00:39:36.860
especially in facilitating a society we're talking about your feelings is is more accepted
00:39:41.180
um i do believe in a 100 merit-based society which is why i believe that anybody man or woman gay or
00:39:46.620
straight black or white can be president if they have the merit to be so but i think that to say
00:39:50.880
that just because a woman makes some decisions differently would somehow have a negative impact
00:39:55.020
on society is all just based off of assumption when it could actually have a very positive one
00:39:58.320
the gender vick and mine says hey cico i've been watching you fnf and tate uh pearl for a while now
00:40:03.020
all of you changed my mind it absolutely saved me from a depression now i'm doing i'm in the real
00:40:07.180
world gym doing push-ups thank you all keep going girl keep going bro your pay gap is real
00:40:17.140
that the pay gap is real um but i don't agree with the studies that when i went when i modeled
00:40:23.900
for nike the i think i don't have a fucking nda anymore when i modeled for nike the women who did
00:40:29.900
the exact same work the same amount of time frame doing the same shoots just putting on backpacks
00:40:33.760
and sweatpants they got paid twice the amount that the men got paid for the same job that's the wage
00:40:39.560
gap and they don't talk about that a lot of people used to say that it's solely based because of
00:40:44.300
being a woman rather than taking into account career preference time taking off the actual way
00:40:48.220
you do your job there's a lot of other variables that go into these studies and a lot of times i
00:40:52.040
see the feminist movement say oh if you're a woman you're going to make less than a man and it's just
00:40:55.040
a lot more complex than that so i i agree that it's a nuanced conversation so there's like two
00:40:59.040
things that i want to put on my dad right do you think my dad raised my brother and i and my sister
00:41:03.080
the same obviously not no i would hope not well yeah but like in the sense that my dad pushed me
00:41:08.080
into different things than he pushed my sister towards i think women are raised in a way where
00:41:12.520
they're not encouraged to pursue their interests and now we're starting to get to a generation
00:41:15.540
where i think that might happen but it's going to take some time but then this the second one is
00:41:19.280
going to be that you get what you negotiate and this is i can only give personal experience again
00:41:23.120
my dad has worked in hr company they offer men more at the start than they do women because men
00:41:53.060
they have to negotiate better you look at this issue more when you look at but when you look at
00:41:57.320
this issue of the gender wage gap also too it's it's the narrative that surrounds is absolutely
00:42:01.460
factually untrue you're looking at the average income of or salaries of men and the average
00:42:05.520
incomes of women and obviously there's gonna be a difference men and women choose to do different
00:42:08.340
things like you said male feminists are in it to get laid male feminists aren't in it to get laid
00:42:15.360
a lot of them actually believe in the garbage and they they like getting the woke points they like
00:42:22.640
feeling good about themselves i'm excited for this one because i don't like women sexually
00:42:30.140
so this is going to be a very interesting conversation um i think that if you are a
00:42:35.480
straight male the way you view women women subconsciously is always going to be have
00:42:40.600
something to do with sex right on on just a fundamental level just in nature now that might
00:42:46.080
not be the whole premise but i do think that it has something to do with it yeah i think like
00:42:49.480
Again, the problem with these statements is like they're general.
00:42:51.920
I think there are men out there that are predatory and are posing as feminists.
00:42:56.220
You think the male feminists are just trying to get laid?
00:42:59.620
Even on a more like micro level, like, so I was literally just watching a recent Jubilee video.
00:43:07.920
And this is almost a direct quote of what he says.
00:43:48.160
with a lot of the more traditionally toxic masculine traits
00:43:53.560
with a lot of Western women in today's society.
00:44:00.000
oh, fuck Andrew Tate, just so they can get laid
00:44:01.580
because they know that's how a woman will feel.
00:44:06.240
Oh wow, they listen to me or oh wow, they agree with me
00:44:09.680
And I think for me as someone who believes genuinely
00:44:13.540
but I don't go around parading myself as a feminist
00:44:15.180
Because the only thing that I could think that justifies being a third-weight feminist, being a feminist today, is you must just want to get laid.
00:44:20.840
Because there's no reason to believe in all these crazy things that go after your identity as a man, that seek to strip you of your masculinity, that perpetuate these terrible ideas that men are bad and evil and all these things that you can't be a provider, you can't be a protector, all these things.
00:44:34.960
It's funny, like, I'm going to address it once.
00:44:37.520
I've been having to scroll away from the donors the whole time.
00:45:09.540
women don't respect people who fucking simp for them they don't why would you want to be with the
00:45:16.300
guy that's already giving you everything are you dumb everybody wants what they can't have
00:45:22.880
wake the fuck up stop thinking that like i love you so much oh simping is a fucking disease bro
00:45:30.340
worse than covid holy fuck these guys are sad bro
00:45:34.660
jesus christ giving me money in my chat you you see like if your sipping has gone so far
00:45:44.420
you ran out of money to give out to some bitches only fans and you're here in my chat giving me
00:45:49.560
money is that all you know how to do is simp you fucking losers not specifically you simps in
00:45:56.480
general like how far in it where the only thing that you know how to do is spend money on the
00:46:02.480
internet holy fuck bro all stream i gotta scroll scroll scroll bro the amount of simps coping right
00:46:11.220
now is just gee have you seen it and people in the chat are like what are you talking about
00:46:15.480
we're watching a video about feminism and people here are crying about an only fans girl get over
00:46:20.280
yourself i know like part of it and i've been i've been having to dodge it for like three streams
00:46:25.640
because it's like the amount of like simps crying in here these sad incels it's just and then people
00:46:31.080
like, who are you talking about? No one cares, bro. It doesn't matter. It's lonely fans. It's
00:46:37.260
designed to take away your energy and your soul. It's making you sad. You're not going to find
00:46:43.580
happiness on a porn site. You're not going to find a connection on an OnlyFans site. Get a life.
00:46:56.380
Like, no, some people are saying that they're trolling, bro. I don't think there's been like
00:47:00.940
specific people three four days in a row not just one dude just a group of simps who are upset
00:47:06.220
because they think an only fans girl likes me and they're just coping it's not i know it's not
00:47:11.540
trolling because this is the mentality sheesh bro the amount of money i've made from these people
00:47:18.060
it's not trolling because that's all they know how to do is spend money to people online for a
00:47:22.140
glimpse of attention so i've been ignoring it for three days because you're just supposed to move on
00:47:55.660
I don't think anything I do is because I'm a man.
00:47:59.760
Now, genuinely, and Chad, have you ever noticed that?
00:48:02.780
I've talked to a lot of people, like my friends from back at college and stuff like that,
00:48:08.980
I've had people message me and say, there's even women in the chat laughing, Jennifer.
00:48:13.660
There have been conversations where people would be like, fuck Sneeko.
00:48:19.360
Trying to get like woke points at a conversation.
00:48:24.900
but afterwards my friends would call me up and like yo this guy I even had a cameraman who was
00:48:29.480
in a hostel in Europe and randomly I came up in conversation and they started shaming the
00:48:34.860
cameraman for working with me saying that I'm encouraging bad behavior but people really be
00:48:40.180
out here trying to say fuck sneeko into some pussy have you have does that ever happen
00:49:05.280
I think, to your point, asking, like, why would any man be a feminist?
00:49:09.280
So I just think that we don't all view feminism the way you do.
00:49:12.280
Similar to the way the Black Lives Matter movement has been moved and changed
00:49:15.280
and developed in terms of the way that people identify it,
00:49:17.280
the things that you speak about when you talk about third wave feminism
00:49:19.280
is not what I mean when I say that I am a male feminist.
00:49:22.460
And so, yeah, no, if you can't understand that,
00:49:40.940
from a very heteronormative perspective, right?
00:49:44.540
so I'm not gonna look at my non-binary or LGBTQ friends
00:49:47.640
and be like, oh, just because I can't have sex with you,
00:49:50.500
There is no personal gain for just saying that we should be there.
00:49:54.700
And I think a lot of us agree on what we're talking about.
00:49:56.960
It's just these labels are in the way of getting us to that.
00:49:59.240
One thing to build on top of, too, is to an extent,
00:50:06.140
If you're not sleeping around, if you're not getting laid,
00:50:09.840
And that doesn't come from women, at least from my experience.
00:50:12.860
If men were a little bit like, so I'll say this now.
00:50:17.760
if men were a little bit like like so i'll say this now i didn't lose my virginity until i was
00:50:25.860
22. that's why you're a male feminist now i'm fine with that if you asked me at 21 how i felt about
00:50:34.240
that i would change the subject as quickly as i possibly could because i was ashamed
00:50:36.740
i mean i was ashamed of it but you know that's part of the patriarchy
00:50:41.220
this is gonna be the last prompt i want to hear everyone speak i want everyone to get their voice
00:51:13.620
Again, I've mentioned the scriptural basis for this, but I think patriarchal society is the way that society functions best.
00:51:25.420
We've kind of flipped the term on its head to mean something that it doesn't mean, to say that a patriarchy is a society...
00:51:32.580
So I think if you have a patriarchy operating properly, you have men that are responsible in taking care of their families, taking care of the women of society.
00:51:39.360
And in turn, the women have equal opportunities to pursue whatever career they want, to be a mom, to be a wife, and to do the things that they want to do as well.
00:51:51.340
This is a little bit of a personal, emotional thing.
00:51:56.220
At the beginning of September, I lost my brother to cancer.
00:52:04.340
And then I really started feeling, you know, the financial impact.
00:52:07.480
and I have my girlfriend you know people in my life telling me that they want to help me out
00:52:13.540
financially but I have this thing internally within me that feels like a leech in some way
00:52:19.340
shape or form that is because of this thing that I this expectation that we put on men to be
00:52:23.740
providers. It's really fucking hard. I have an expectation to be a man. Let me play a sad song
00:52:43.220
for you on the world. And I can't explain why. I would have liked to have a little bit more time
00:52:47.140
than three weeks before I had to start worrying about fucking money again after my brother passed
00:52:51.480
away. And I do feel like that kind of is a direct result of the patriarchy. And I know that it is
00:52:56.720
myself. It's my personal feelings. But I think it stems from the society that I grew up in that I'm
00:53:01.240
even feeling these things to be. Yeah, to start, you know, I want to say I'm really sorry for your
00:53:08.160
loss because I can't even imagine what it's like to lose a loved one. So I want to thank you for
00:53:14.140
sharing your story. It's really important for people to hear. You better cry. But I don't think
00:53:17.680
that it's accurate to blame a horrific situation on one aspect of society or the patriarchy or
00:53:23.340
this without any solid basis. So I think that's a fair response. And to clarify my statement just
00:53:27.480
a little bit, that's more of a communal problem. I wish there was a little bit more of a stronger
00:53:31.300
community sense within our country. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like a patriarchal
00:53:34.400
society is not one of support. It's one of merit. It's one of bootstraps. It's one of strength.
00:53:38.920
Competition. Yeah, it's competition. You said that a merit-based society is somehow correlated
00:53:42.760
with the patriarchy. And I don't see the correlation there because if you look anywhere
00:53:46.380
in nature everything is merit-based you know lions in the safari it's about strength it's about you
00:53:50.780
know competition that's just how our world works and my biggest flaw with feminism today or any
00:53:54.900
social movement really is that some things are just inherent to nature so to try to solve um
00:53:59.300
equal outcome and solve all these problems it's just naive and it takes away from actually solving
00:54:03.480
the issues that are in front of us because it's it's a delusion there'll always be winners and
00:54:06.720
losers yeah yeah yeah i just wanted to go back and you know i've been we've been asking what
00:54:10.480
does patriarchy mean right you know i don't think it just means male led what i'm trying to dismantle
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is the institutions in our society reinforcing that males are superior.
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A lot of societal institutions and staples of our society
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are reinforcing that narrative that men alone have to take on that mantle.
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So one of the chats said, bro, my brother died on my birthday and I kept moving on.
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Look, I play that violin sound because it's just like, you know, three weeks.
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Would your brother want you to sit around and cry?
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Or would your brother want you to go into work tomorrow?
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i understand that for a day or two you could be upset you get to put three weeks someone's got
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to pay the bills bro like the business is getting life life goes on life goes on whether you are
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going to be part of it or not that's the truth of being the one to provide being the one to lead the
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charge on fixing a problem right where like what tucker was saying we all experience emotions and
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react independently and we look for community. Yeah, so I think a direct combat towards the
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patriarchy is emotional intelligence that we haven't actually talked much about today. We keep
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going back to business, money, and all these different things because those are things
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associated with manhood. But if you really want to shift the dynamic, it's about how do we own
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the emotional parts of ourselves as men? And that is not a conversation that is had in society
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enough, nor is it supported. In a patriarchal society, it impacts men in a way where we feel
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like we can't let the armor down that's that that's what the difference between third you know
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you're saying like third wave feminism versus like first and second wave i feel like now it's
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about superiority when you when you're saying like you're mansplaining or when you're like
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playing that men do this or men you know take advantage and men do that it makes it as we're
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your enemy when in reality it should be more about like working as a team right i have a clarifying
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question so you were describing that it's shifting to matriarchy right yeah matriarchy just like more
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like more like being against like when you're demonizing men like their actions in general
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So, like, when we're moving towards a socially matriarchical society, it's mansplaining and it's men being canceled.
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But when patriarchy is in place, we're dealing with issues of wealth.
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We're dealing with issues of health care, whether you consider it health care or not.
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It seems that matriarchy is less, I guess, oppressively heavy because all I have to deal with is you not liking what I have to say.
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Whereas in a patriarchy, I can't make as much money.
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Well, it's not just about disagreeing about whether or not it exists.
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And the fact of the matter is, even in a patriarchal society which doesn't exist,
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men and women can still go and make the same amount of money.
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If women majored in higher paying fields of study, they would make more money.
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When we talk about men's mental health, I separate it from patriarchy.
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Because I think that to be expressive about what you're feeling and what you're going through...
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Men talking about their feelings, it's just kind of...
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And being strong, I associate that with being a man, being masculine.
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Maybe society would like to beat you up for that.
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Maybe that's why men are likelier to commit suicide.
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but that is still an example of strength i think that as we get further and further along the
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generations we need to start preaching to young men the type of strength that you were talking
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about self-awareness discipline and honesty emotional honesty not being tough and not like
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you know being able to go through a lot but being aware when you're going through something when
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you're struggling being able to articulate that right and doing it to the right people at the
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right time i think that is what strength is and i think that that's a positive message that we
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could that we could communicate to the next generation about masculinity we ended on