SNEAKO - January 10, 2023SNEAKO Reacts To Matt Walsh's Take On Andrew Tate Supporters
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Summary
Matt Walsh responds to Andrew Tate supporters, the show yesterday with a discussion about the crisis of masculinity and the rise of Andrew Tate, and the key points made in that conversation, including: 1. Men are growing up in a culture that is openly hostile to masculinity, and many are forced to navigate the minefield without the benefits of strong male role models to show them the path 2. This crisis is self-perpetuating, because the young men with absentee fathers eventually become absentee fathers themselves, repeating the cycle indefinitely unto infinity 3. And into this field of confusion and man hatred, steps guys like Andrew Tate and others, who understandably flock to somebody who has a message that embraces masculinity, rather than treating it like a disease 4. The feminized and neutered man that our left-wing culture seeks to create is not the ideal to strive towards, but the only sort of life that men are called to and created for, is a life of service as a protector and provider 5. If there is any saving our civilization at this point, it will be saved by the formation and preservation of strong, intact, loving and well-led families
Transcript
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The show yesterday with a discussion about the crisis of masculinity and the rise of Andrew Tate.
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And to very briefly summarize the key points made in that conversation,
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boys are growing up in a culture that is openly hostile to masculinity,
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and many are forced to navigate the minefield without the benefits of strong male role models
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It grows exponentially because the young men with absentee fathers
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eventually become absentee fathers themselves, repeating the cycle indefinitely unto infinity.
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And into this field of confusion and man hatred steps guys like Andrew Tate and others, quickly
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earning an enormous following of young men who understandably flock to somebody who has a message
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that embraces masculinity rather than treating it like a disease. Andrew Tate, very often good at
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identifying the problems in our culture as they pertain to the situation that men face,
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and deserves credit for speaking up in defense of masculinity rather than denigrating it and
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calling for its eradication, essentially. But in my view, he misses the mark when it comes to the
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remedy. He seems to basically understand the disease, but he doesn't have the right prescription
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for it, or at least the full prescription. Yes, men should reject the programming that our culture
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wants to subject them to, programming which seeks to neuter and feminize them. Yes, they should work
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hard. They should take care of their minds and their bodies. Yes, they should. You know, Matt
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walsh is afraid debate nick fuentes drive for success including financial success but a life
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of hedonism and materialism and luxurious this is the take from ben shapiro daily wire and every
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single person even bach cooper they all say like well he womanizes too much this wealth remaining
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unmarried while sleeping with a dozens of different women and so on he's unmarried
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how do you know the meat watching is crazy man is not the ideal to strive towards rather what
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men are called to and created for, and the only sort of life that will be truly happy, that they'll
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find true happiness and joy in, is a life of service as protector and provider. Men, the vast
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majority of men anyway, are called to be husbands and fathers, to be leaders of their families.
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Now they may be called to lead in other ways too, but first they must care for their families.
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If there's any saving our civilization at this point, which I think there is,
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but if there is this is how it will be done and this is who will do it it's not going to be saved
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by influence i mean chad w w for andrew or no how about this fucking one for matt walsh two for
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andrew tate matt walsh has like six kids christian monogamous two andrew tate muslim multiple wives
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and still something on the side one or two monogamy with a bunch of kids or do whatever
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the fuck you want to do answers who are sitting in front of cameras whether the guy in front of
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the camera is andrew tate or me or anyone else it'll be saved through the formation and
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preservation of strong intact loving and well-led families okay that is the only way it is the only
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way forward talk to me matt if every man in the country starts going to the gym and starts making
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lots of money and starts having sex with lots of attractive women, and yet they don't get married
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and stay married and have children and raise and love those children, then we will still be headed
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to ruin. It'll be a slightly different kind of ruin, but ruin all the same. Those men themselves
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will ultimately find the happiness that they are able to derive in that lifestyle. They'll find
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that it's shallow and it's fleeting, and in the end, they'll die alone, loved by no one,
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loving no one, remembered by no one, leaving no legacy behind. The feminized and neutered and
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effeminate man that our left-wing culture seeks to create, and then this other sort of man,
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both unmarried, both childless, will look very similar in the end.
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They make a lot of assumptions about a man that they've never met.
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They assume that it's all hedonism and they assume it's all that,
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but they don't really know what their personal lives are like.
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Even fucking Mike and Logan Law had the same diagnosis.
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Whose different path actually leads to a different and much better conclusion.
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Now, I've, of course, been preaching this message for as long as I've had an audience to preach to.
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And I have found that there are like two or three basic responses or rebuttals, I guess,
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that I always hear from young men who may, for the most part, line up with me ideologically,
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but who doubt the wisdom of the get married and have kids prescription.
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And I was greeted with these same responses after the show yesterday and many messages and comments.
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What I'd like to do today is answer the objections, or at least what seems to be the one principal objection.
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The claim that I so often hear is that, well, marriage and family life is a trap.
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it's a scam it is especially for men and the whole thing is rigged against us it is there is
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nothing for a man to do but give up on the entire enterprise and and go his own way yep in fact
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there's a whole movement online men go their own way passport gang and that's basically the idea
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just give up on this stuff and and do something else this argument was summarized in a comment
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from a listener named joshua which i'll read because i think it just is representative of
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of this sort of mentality okay josh he says still sounds like mad and most trad cons definition of
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what masculinity means is exclusively through the lens of women and children's wants and needs
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trad con is fucking the nerd matt walsh ben shapiro way of saying traditional conservative
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fortunately that ideal will no longer work in the modern world with birth control hookup culture
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social media and court systems that favor women and the denigration of traditional masculinity
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I don't agree with all of Tate's views, but it sure beats Matt's prescriptions for young men.
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Again, I've read a great many comments making the same kind of point.
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A private message from another listener has a similar theme.
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It says, Matt, I agree with many of your opinions, but your message to men is off base.
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Young men follow Andrew Tate because his lifestyle is the ideal, whether you admit it or not.
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Yo, shout out to Dan Blasierian, too. He just followed me on the gram, bro.
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I'm trying to get to the point where Dan Blasierian will invite me out, and then I'm going, bro.
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I want to get to that level, personally. I don't want to give up on that.
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Because marriage in the West, I don't know, I'm not sold.
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Type of one if you want to get married in the West.
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Women were biologically programmed to want those things.
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The only solution in modern society is to reject the life of service, as you call it.
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Well, to begin with, it's nothing less than a full, unconditional surrender to the culture.
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It's true that the culture has increasingly made it difficult for both men and women
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to form and maintain strong, intact, lasting families.
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And that's because the elites who run our society don't want you to live that kind of life.
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They prefer that you focus on your individual wants,
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on fulfilling your own needs and satisfying your own desires.
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A self-focused life is precisely the sort of life they wish for you.
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I mean, if you're just out there focused on yourself, you know, being a consumer, buying lots of things for yourself, consuming things for yourself, you know, and all the rest of it, you're not a threat to their agenda at all.
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um all of the things mentioned by joshua and his comment all of those things represent a
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conspiracy against the family he's right about that the way the family quick reminder his voice
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bore me everybody in the chat add a profile picture to your rumble account i'm tired of
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seeing these empty icons bro add a profile picture systems are set up birth control all the rest of
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it's an attack on the family okay so what is the answer to give up to give the conspirators
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exactly what they want to reward them for their efforts by turning your back on the very thing
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they've been assaulting for decades the family is the fortress that they have been attacking
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and you can defend it with your life or you can wave the white flag but if you choose to surrender
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then at least be honest about what you're doing be honest this is not a rejection of the left's
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agenda of a cultural elite's agenda you are you are submitting to it it is a submission
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it is certainly not the strong or masculine response to run away and abandon your post
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okay to stop fighting because the fight is too difficult
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i mean that approaches many things but it certainly isn't manly yeah yeah yeah you're
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family. And where do you go instead? I mean, what is the next move? To give up on the family is to
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give up on human civilization. Bro, stop assuming we had to give up on family. Cannot be a human
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civilization without the family. So what's plan B after you've given up on civilization? What's
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next? You're also giving up on yourself, on your own legacy, your own bloodline. You are descended
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from a long line of men stretching back thousands of years who formed families and raised children
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often under circumstances far more dire than what we face.
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How is losing all your money in a divorce fighting the system?
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You are surrendering your future and your past.
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I mean, the unfortunate irony is that many of the people that,
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many of the men who give up on these things in favor of,
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well, I'll just focus on myself and try to be financially successful.
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Many of them are never even going to be financially successful.
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But even if you find it, the financial success, so what?
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I don't have Andrew Tate's money, but I have money.
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You see how a lot of the criticism of these boomers
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who are like, oh, Andrew Tate just likes Bugattis,
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they always get triggered by the fact that they're older
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and they haven't had made it they haven't made as much money have you noticed that a lot of the
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boomers and i know this because we have a younger chat we're like yeah bro let's go get it let's go
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get it when you get to matt walsh's age botch shapiro said this i've seen every so many of
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the hit pieces a lot of people just get triggered by like you're broke you're broke they see that
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oh this fucking asshole look at it as motivational purposes only but i'm telling you they just get
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upset and nearly all the joy and happiness i derive from having money is that it allows me
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to provide for my family that's pretty much it that's the entire thing that's why i like having
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the money is that i find great pleasure in being able to care for a wife and six kids
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proud of that fact if i didn't have them the money would mean very little to me i mean i could buy
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nice things and drive a fancy car and live in my nice house alone but for what okay that's not what
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does. Dummy. Dummy. You're broke. He ain't broke. Okay. I'm not going to, but trust me,
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Andrew and Tristan are not alone, bro. Now, does that mean that if you start a family that you're
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guaranteed to live a joyful and fulfilled life? Well, of course not. It's a risk. And yes, the
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risks are in some ways much greater in modern times. We have all been poisoned by this demonic
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culture to one extent or another. We are all poisoned. If you marry someone, you are marrying
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someone who has been poisoned, who has ingested the poison, who has taken a drink from the well
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of modern culture. Everybody has, as have you. And yes, if things go sideways, if you're a man,
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you marry a woman and your wife turns out to be a disloyal. I can't believe how dumb he is to think
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that Andrew and Tristan live in a giant mansion by themselves. And after a long day of driving
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Bugattis and triggering Matt Walsh, they come home and, okay, good night with my lonely life.
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destiny said that shit everybody that i've seen although the fucking intellectual commentators
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have made that exact same point and they're like he must be miserable when he goes to sleep like
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i'm telling you that's just the furthest thing from the truth vulture or if you turn out to be
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a disloyal vulture or you both do um the deck will be stacked against you in court no there's
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no question about that divorce may ruin your life it will and you know if you give your heart to
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someone if you bind yourself to them not only through the marriage vow but then also through
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children you conceive together then you will have they will have all they need to rip your guts out
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and burn your life to the ground that is absolutely true look what happened to yay yay you recently
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saw this screenshot he was texting kim on twitter well the picture of the uh the messages was on
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twitter and he was texting kim like a picture of the new baby and he said we have everything we
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need like you're on the cover of vogue we have a beautiful family this is your life we have
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everything we need look what happened bro look what happened that's the risk okay but it's a
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risk worth taking every great joy can become a great tragedy if you aren't careful true or if
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you have very bad luck true that's true so is the answer then to forego all joy to say forget about
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joy because it might not work out? To embrace a life of loneliness and misery because you're
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worried that if you aim higher, you'll end up lonely and miserable? You're worried that in
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the end you'll end up in this state. So instead you say, well, I might as well just live in this
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state to begin with. It doesn't make any sense. So you take the risk and you mitigate the risk
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at the same time by being smart about who you marry and by grounding your marriage and your
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family in faith and mutual devotion. And by working hard every day to hold up your own end
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of the bargain, because yeah, there are some men out there who do everything right. And they're,
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and, and, and, you know, they're great men and they're devoted to their families
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and they're intensely loyal and all of that. And their families fall apart anyway,
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because they accidentally married a soulless disloyal scumbag. I mean, that does happen.
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And sometimes it happens in the reverse, but that's not, that's not the majority of cases.
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Most of the time it takes two to tangle, two to get married, two to ruin the marriage.
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which means that marriage is not a mere role of the...
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There's quite a lot you can do to secure your good fortune.
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You know, when I was getting married and I heard about the statistics,
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Because the one thing statistics don't take into account are choices.
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Whether your marriage works or not, it's about choices that are made in the marriage.
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If one or both of you make bad choices, your chances are going to be very poor.
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Chats says me when I'm trying to reach the word count on an essay.
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this dude is chatting chat wash have the courage and go forward anyway
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one other thing i want to say you know i and this is important to say that
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it's just not true okay it's just not true that a life of obscene luxury and materialism and
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selfishness and self-service and of you know sleeping with many different women and and all
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that it's not true that that is the ideal which we so often hear these days that's the ideal
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You know, non-monogamy, having many sexual partners.
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Much less is it what we are biologically programmed to desire.
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No, it's what we're culturally programmed to desire.
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But I know that it's not biological because I'm a biological organism and I don't desire that.
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And that'll do it for this portion of the show.