SNEAKO - August 26, 2022


SNEAKO Reacts to the TRUTH About Julian Assange!


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37 minutes

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Word Count

6,296

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629

Misogynist Sentences

15

Hate Speech Sentences

12


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Julian Assange is an Australian hacker who spent most of his life breaking into computers and getting his hands on information that he wasn t supposed to see, but that he believed the world should see. He started a website called WikiLeaks in 2006, and since then, he s been a thorn in the side of the U.S. government. He s been charged with espionage, conspiracy to commit espionage, and providing false information to the United States government.

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00:00:00.000 The danger of ignoring Julian Assange.
00:00:02.720 Free Julian Assange. Did I say his name right?
00:00:04.380 I don't even know who that is.
00:00:05.380 You haven't heard about him? You haven't heard about WikiLeaks?
00:00:07.320 Nah. I mean, I know what WikiLeaks is. He started that?
00:00:10.320 Let's watch.
00:00:14.100 On a spring day 10 years ago,
00:00:16.580 a 41-year-old Australian man named Julian Assange
00:00:19.600 dressed up as a motorcycle delivery man.
00:00:22.460 He dyed his hair, put colored contacts in his eyes,
00:00:25.980 and even put a rock in his shoe
00:00:28.080 so that he would walk differently than normal.
00:00:30.400 He was sure he was being followed by dark government forces
00:00:33.780 that were attempting to capture him
00:00:35.740 and send him to the United States to be locked up.
00:00:39.800 He showed up here,
00:00:41.360 to the Embassy of Ecuador in central London.
00:00:45.060 Once inside this embassy,
00:00:46.920 he wouldn't be on British soil anymore.
00:00:49.120 No one could barge in here and grab him.
00:00:51.960 He'd be safe.
00:00:54.020 It's called political asylum.
00:00:58.080 Oh, and by the way,
00:00:59.080 this is an actual footage of Julian Assange in 2012.
00:01:02.040 Action!
00:01:03.360 You're great.
00:01:04.860 This is an actor.
00:01:06.140 We did a reenactment of this whole thing.
00:01:08.380 Anyway.
00:01:08.960 Yeah, no shit.
00:01:09.960 No fucking shit.
00:01:11.180 He wasn't vlogging the whole thing, bro?
00:01:12.480 For real?
00:01:16.200 Assange did make it inside that day,
00:01:18.580 and after entering the Ecuadorian embassy in London,
00:01:21.960 he wouldn't leave it for seven years.
00:01:24.600 Testing one, two, three.
00:01:28.380 I've been looking at a lot of this.
00:01:37.820 I've actually started hanging up the documents over here
00:01:41.120 because they've been taking up too much space.
00:01:44.060 I want to tell you the story of Julian Assange.
00:01:47.200 This guy's a traitor.
00:01:48.420 I love WikiLeaks.
00:01:49.600 This is a blow to transparency
00:01:51.340 and a blow to a free press.
00:01:53.880 Yo, free him.
00:01:55.380 Go.
00:01:56.200 The reason that they say he's a traitor
00:01:57.780 is because he was exposing government secrets.
00:02:00.920 Why would anyone call him a traitor?
00:02:02.400 We're the people.
00:02:03.460 The government is not with us.
00:02:05.100 He was trying to reveal valuable information
00:02:07.640 so that we could wake up to the fact
00:02:08.940 that the government is trying to control us
00:02:10.260 beyond what we know.
00:02:11.520 They're actively lying and manipulating,
00:02:13.460 and still, with this out there,
00:02:14.980 people still blindly trust the government.
00:02:16.680 What this story is
00:02:18.020 is like an expression of a new kind of power,
00:02:20.700 the power of secrets, of information.
00:02:24.300 An anti-war online organization
00:02:27.160 attacking U.S. policy in Afghanistan.
00:02:30.440 And the reason I'm calling what Julian Assange does power
00:02:33.080 is because the U.S. is trying to lock him up
00:02:36.120 for 175 years because of what he did.
00:02:39.620 He's probably being tortured right now.
00:02:40.960 It's all here in this indictment.
00:02:42.080 They caught him?
00:02:42.900 Hmm?
00:02:43.320 They caught him?
00:02:43.740 The most powerful country in the world
00:02:46.740 feels threatened by this man and what he's done.
00:02:50.100 I want to take you through Julian Assange's story
00:02:52.540 and then to unpack why the United States
00:02:55.200 is trying to lock him up for the rest of his life.
00:02:57.700 And I want to persuade you that,
00:03:00.220 no matter what you think of Julian Assange
00:03:01.820 and his conduct and his ethics and his mission,
00:03:04.840 this case should not be ignored.
00:03:06.820 You never know what the outcome is,
00:03:21.420 but the truth is always the best place to start.
00:03:25.120 Come on, fire!
00:03:25.900 Okay, wait.
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00:03:49.800 Now let's get back into the story.
00:03:51.080 Okay, let's get up to speed really quickly
00:03:56.080 on who this guy even is
00:03:57.700 and how he ended up trapped in an embassy in London.
00:04:01.120 Julian Assange is an Australian hacker
00:04:03.060 who spent most of his life breaking into computers
00:04:05.520 and getting his hands on information
00:04:07.220 that he wasn't supposed to see,
00:04:09.120 but that he believed the world should see.
00:04:12.280 When he was 35, he built a website
00:04:14.100 where whistleblowers of all kinds
00:04:16.200 could upload sensitive information
00:04:17.980 that he, Julian Assange, on his new website would publish.
00:04:21.420 And the upside of all of this
00:04:22.900 was that these whistleblowers
00:04:24.040 would remain totally anonymous.
00:04:26.040 He claimed that even he wouldn't know
00:04:27.660 who his sources were.
00:04:28.980 So that was 2006.
00:04:30.400 Julian Assange builds WikiLeaks.
00:04:32.600 And soon after, he starts receiving submissions.
00:04:35.740 Like people start giving him documents
00:04:37.740 that are supposed to be secret
00:04:39.080 and he starts publishing them.
00:04:40.460 Everything from drone strikes in Yemen
00:04:42.340 to oil scandals in Peru
00:04:43.900 to corruption in the Arab world,
00:04:46.220 Tibetan uprisings in China.
00:04:48.240 Leaks like this sort of seem common to us now,
00:04:50.680 but this was like 2007.
00:04:52.700 WikiLeaks was a totally new thing.
00:04:54.560 It was this open source intelligence website
00:04:56.980 acting in the name of no government
00:04:59.200 with no location,
00:05:00.920 but with this very idealistic vision
00:05:02.800 of making the world's information
00:05:04.980 totally transparent,
00:05:06.500 exposing corruption,
00:05:08.380 exposing government secrets.
00:05:09.800 Understand how far you can push government
00:05:15.560 into doing something
00:05:17.260 into just
00:05:18.320 or by exposing injustice.
00:05:21.180 But WikiLeaks wasn't really noticed
00:05:22.880 until 2010,
00:05:24.340 when something happened
00:05:25.320 that would change everything.
00:05:29.680 In Iraq,
00:05:31.260 there was a 22-year-old
00:05:32.500 American intelligence analyst
00:05:34.300 named Chelsea Manning.
00:05:35.620 Horrified by what she was seeing,
00:05:38.200 she decided to download
00:05:39.500 hundreds of thousands
00:05:40.800 of classified documents
00:05:42.660 from military computers
00:05:44.220 and upload them directly to WikiLeaks.
00:05:51.540 Of course, our top story this morning,
00:05:52.900 the White House
00:05:53.400 blasting the release
00:05:54.720 of over 90,000 U.S. military records
00:05:57.320 on the Republican Party.
00:05:59.140 It was the biggest leak in history.
00:06:01.360 And this is the stuff
00:06:02.640 we've been looking through
00:06:03.780 over the past few weeks.
00:06:05.640 Hundreds of thousands
00:06:06.600 of classified documents
00:06:07.860 containing never-before-seen details
00:06:10.300 on how the U.S. conducts its war,
00:06:13.120 its diplomacy,
00:06:14.340 its intelligence.
00:06:17.320 I mean, let me show you
00:06:18.440 some of this stuff.
00:06:23.600 Now, let me just do
00:06:24.520 a quick disclaimer here.
00:06:26.120 Going through these leaks,
00:06:27.540 there is a lot of, like,
00:06:29.240 horrific stuff.
00:06:30.140 Like, stuff I just don't even
00:06:32.300 want to talk about here.
00:06:34.060 I'll go over it
00:06:34.600 kind of in vague terms
00:06:35.740 and let you go read the rest.
00:06:37.140 I get to the point, man.
00:06:38.400 But war is horrible.
00:06:40.460 And what these documents reveal
00:06:42.340 is, like, a detailed version of that.
00:06:44.540 My fellow citizens,
00:06:45.900 at this hour,
00:06:47.680 American and coalition forces
00:06:49.300 are in the early stages
00:06:50.480 of military operations
00:06:51.760 to disarm Iraq,
00:06:53.780 to free its people,
00:06:55.280 and to defend the world
00:06:56.300 from grave danger.
00:06:57.560 In these leaks,
00:06:58.160 we learn about secret raids.
00:06:59.140 We read about scenes
00:07:01.040 of U.S. military people
00:07:02.680 executing Iraqi families.
00:07:06.300 We also get a lot of data.
00:07:08.640 The U.S. military claimed
00:07:09.660 that it wasn't keeping track
00:07:11.160 of deaths in Iraq,
00:07:12.620 but these leaks showed
00:07:13.900 that they actually were,
00:07:15.060 and that the number of casualties,
00:07:17.600 including civilian deaths,
00:07:19.800 was actually way higher
00:07:21.280 than anyone thought before.
00:07:22.760 The leaks also revealed
00:07:27.940 this classified footage
00:07:29.240 that, again,
00:07:30.400 I'm not going to show
00:07:31.220 all of it here
00:07:32.180 or even the worst parts.
00:07:33.700 It's more than keep walking by
00:07:35.020 and one of them has a weapon.
00:07:36.540 It's relevant.
00:07:37.180 Call that white six.
00:07:38.380 That's a weapon.
00:07:39.100 It shows a U.S. helicopter
00:07:40.480 firing on a group of Iraqis
00:07:42.580 who they thought were insurgents,
00:07:44.080 but was really just a family,
00:07:45.720 including children,
00:07:47.060 walking with two Reuters journalists.
00:07:49.880 They were carrying cameras,
00:07:54.620 not guns.
00:07:57.420 And yet in this video,
00:08:00.540 you see them open fire
00:08:02.340 on these people.
00:08:03.220 Uh, you know,
00:08:04.020 three, two, engage over.
00:08:05.680 Let me know when you're
00:08:07.500 Gavin or shoot.
00:08:09.400 Light them all up.
00:08:11.660 Come on, fire!
00:08:14.460 Like a Call of Duty game.
00:08:16.900 Hey, Roger.
00:08:19.920 Oh, yeah, look at those
00:08:20.840 dead bastards.
00:08:25.140 That's what I say in COD!
00:08:27.340 Nice.
00:08:28.280 It's their fault
00:08:29.080 for bringing their kids
00:08:29.840 to a battle.
00:08:30.540 That's right.
00:08:32.000 That's right.
00:08:41.520 Okay, we get it.
00:08:42.220 You have a bunch of papers.
00:08:43.160 You did a lot of research.
00:08:43.900 Can you get to the point, bro?
00:08:44.680 You don't need to be
00:08:45.080 a star of the show.
00:08:45.700 About this scene
00:08:46.540 where an Apache helicopter
00:08:47.920 is flying over
00:08:49.740 some insurgents in a house
00:08:51.340 who are surrendering.
00:08:52.480 They're coming out of their house
00:08:53.300 with their hands up.
00:08:54.360 And yet the Apache helicopter
00:08:55.640 gets the clearance
00:08:57.220 to fire on them.
00:08:58.540 And their justification
00:08:59.160 is according to this leaked log,
00:09:02.080 you're not allowed
00:09:02.640 to surrender to aircraft.
00:09:04.880 They're still valid targets.
00:09:06.840 I mean, it's horrendous.
00:09:09.020 As a journalist,
00:09:09.900 I'm skeptical.
00:09:10.480 I'm like, okay,
00:09:10.960 these are like
00:09:11.420 two or three bad apples.
00:09:12.620 Is this what we're staring at?
00:09:14.320 But no.
00:09:15.200 Through these leaks,
00:09:16.400 you see that 15,000 civilians
00:09:19.220 were killed
00:09:19.860 in previously unknown incidents.
00:09:21.860 15,000.
00:09:23.200 These documents reveal
00:09:24.540 a culture and a system
00:09:26.520 of abuse and torture in Iraq,
00:09:29.180 mostly by the Iraqi military and army
00:09:31.920 that the U.S. military knew about,
00:09:33.540 but did nothing to solve.
00:09:34.800 And the only reason
00:09:35.580 why we know about it now
00:09:36.800 is because Chelsea Manning
00:09:39.220 gave WikiLeaks
00:09:40.320 all of these documents.
00:09:43.020 They would have kept this secret
00:09:44.540 till the day all of us die.
00:09:47.240 They don't want you to know this.
00:09:48.620 I don't know how you can hear
00:09:50.300 about the WikiLeaks.
00:09:51.520 I don't know how you can hear
00:09:52.120 about people like Julian Assange
00:09:53.220 or Edward Snowden
00:09:54.540 and still trust the government.
00:09:56.600 I just don't understand it.
00:09:57.860 Department of State leaked
00:09:58.620 from the embassy in Belgium
00:10:00.340 that shows that the U.S.
00:10:02.240 tried to pressure Belgium
00:10:03.960 into taking some of the prisoners
00:10:05.980 from Guantanamo Bay
00:10:07.100 in order to curry favor
00:10:08.680 with the U.S.
00:10:10.140 You see the U.S. being like,
00:10:11.860 hey, Belgium,
00:10:12.460 take some of these Guantanamo prisoners.
00:10:14.320 It's a low-cost way for Belgium
00:10:16.380 to attain prominence in Europe.
00:10:18.260 Like, it's backroom deals
00:10:19.720 exchanging Guantanamo prisoners
00:10:22.340 for political favors.
00:10:24.740 We would have not known any of this
00:10:26.780 had these leaks not come out.
00:10:28.720 All of this turned out
00:10:29.900 to be a very grim insight
00:10:31.700 into how the U.S.
00:10:32.820 is conducting its wars.
00:10:34.440 And unsurprisingly,
00:10:35.360 Can you still find them?
00:10:36.180 Can you still find them?
00:10:37.940 Yeah.
00:10:38.920 Leaks came out in 2010 and 2011
00:10:41.240 on WikiLeaks.
00:10:42.540 The Pentagon was furious.
00:10:44.320 This was dumped on us
00:10:45.520 like it was dumped on you all Sunday.
00:10:47.880 War secrets revealed.
00:10:50.400 Okay, as if that's a bad thing.
00:10:52.880 It is the role of good journalism
00:10:55.220 to take on powerful abuses.
00:10:57.680 And when powerful abuses
00:10:58.780 are taken on,
00:10:59.940 there is always a back reaction.
00:11:01.240 Julian Assange's website
00:11:02.620 had gone from being
00:11:03.940 a small hacker website
00:11:05.580 with some leaks
00:11:06.380 to something that now
00:11:08.060 had worldwide attention.
00:11:10.000 This isn't a WikiLeak.
00:11:11.820 This is a WikiTorrent.
00:11:13.380 These documents have...
00:11:14.480 What does that even mean?
00:11:15.480 ...generated a mix of reactions
00:11:17.000 from horrified to appalled.
00:11:19.480 And Assange himself
00:11:20.660 became the public face for this.
00:11:23.160 And he became really polarizing.
00:11:24.520 He was either praised
00:11:25.480 as a courageous journalist.
00:11:27.060 The role that Julian Assange
00:11:28.740 has played in exposing
00:11:30.460 uncomfortable truths
00:11:31.660 is something that he should
00:11:33.860 be very proud of.
00:11:35.120 WikiLeaks is no different
00:11:36.080 from the New York Times.
00:11:37.280 He just believes in justice,
00:11:38.980 believes in honesty,
00:11:39.920 believes in exposing governments.
00:11:41.940 Or he was reproached
00:11:43.280 and condemned...
00:11:43.780 Who was against this?
00:11:45.840 Who could possibly be against this?
00:11:49.560 L Street, L Street.
00:11:50.140 ...as a villain
00:11:50.700 who was set on damaging
00:11:52.120 the U.S. security interest
00:11:53.760 and putting people in danger
00:11:54.980 in the process.
00:11:55.960 I hope he rocked in hell
00:11:57.120 starting with that.
00:11:58.240 This guy's a...
00:12:00.740 I don't like mine!
00:12:02.140 Traitor, treasonous...
00:12:03.380 ...and he has broken
00:12:04.600 every law of the United States.
00:12:06.120 A traitor and a treasonous.
00:12:07.680 How has he broken laws
00:12:08.860 while they're killing civilians?
00:12:10.860 Illegally shoot the son of a...
00:12:12.340 But regardless...
00:12:14.860 That's wild that you could say that back...
00:12:16.620 You know, why does he seem like
00:12:18.140 the Daz Games of Fox News?
00:12:21.180 This looks like all the Tate haters.
00:12:23.800 Sounds like them too.
00:12:25.620 Amen that he got banned.
00:12:27.140 It's the same.
00:12:27.900 It's the repeat people.
00:12:29.940 The people who are jealous,
00:12:31.420 people who are part of the system,
00:12:33.260 people who don't want
00:12:34.480 to fight against it,
00:12:35.420 people who want to live
00:12:36.120 and exist in the Matrix
00:12:37.100 will hate the person exposing it.
00:12:39.340 And he has broken...
00:12:41.040 Chad, this is Daz Games right here.
00:12:42.500 You don't know what I'm talking about, bud.
00:12:43.380 Every law of the United States
00:12:44.420 illegally shoot the son of a...
00:12:46.220 But regardless of what the public
00:12:47.880 thought about him,
00:12:48.840 the reality is the U.S. government
00:12:50.560 now felt like they were at war
00:12:52.240 with Julian Assange and WikiLeaks.
00:12:54.600 The United States strongly condemns
00:12:56.960 the illegal disclosure
00:12:58.380 of classified information.
00:13:00.920 There have been examples in history
00:13:02.600 in which official conduct
00:13:04.560 has been made public
00:13:05.880 in the name of exposing
00:13:07.760 wrongdoings or misdeeds.
00:13:10.640 This is not one of those cases.
00:13:13.600 And the...
00:13:13.880 Yo, shout out to everybody
00:13:16.280 in this chat who voted
00:13:17.100 for Hillary Clinton, Goofy.
00:13:18.280 The next chapter of his life
00:13:19.380 would be spent
00:13:20.500 trying to avoid being sent
00:13:22.100 to the U.S. to face them.
00:13:23.960 And this is why Julian Assange
00:13:25.820 went to the Ecuadorian embassy
00:13:27.460 in London.
00:13:30.420 Okay, so after this huge leak,
00:13:32.200 it's now like 2012.
00:13:33.580 Assange is living in London
00:13:34.920 and he's actually facing
00:13:36.560 the possibility of being sent
00:13:38.060 to Sweden
00:13:38.740 to face an investigation
00:13:40.400 into sexual misconduct allegations.
00:13:42.560 And even though this Sweden investigation
00:13:44.620 legally has nothing to do
00:13:46.660 with the big leaking thing
00:13:48.320 that he had done,
00:13:49.280 Assange was convinced
00:13:50.160 that the U.K. and Sweden
00:13:52.080 were working with the U.S.
00:13:53.580 to try to get Assange
00:13:55.180 back onto U.S. soil
00:13:56.420 to face trial.
00:13:57.400 So instead of go
00:13:58.240 and participate in the investigation,
00:14:00.460 he fled
00:14:01.080 to seek political asylum
00:14:03.060 inside the walls
00:14:04.100 of this embassy.
00:14:05.020 An embassy is kind of like
00:14:09.620 a little enclave
00:14:10.460 within a country.
00:14:11.520 Like this is a little slice
00:14:12.860 of Ecuador within London.
00:14:14.620 So the U.K. couldn't do anything.
00:14:15.980 They couldn't go storm
00:14:16.700 into an embassy.
00:14:17.800 So instead,
00:14:18.400 they just positioned
00:14:19.020 a ton of police
00:14:20.060 outside of the embassy.
00:14:23.700 And this is the moment,
00:14:25.020 this spectacle
00:14:25.700 of all these police
00:14:26.720 sitting outside of the embassy
00:14:28.040 where you realize
00:14:29.040 that this is a huge deal.
00:14:30.460 On paper,
00:14:31.340 this was actually
00:14:31.860 a really small deal.
00:14:32.600 The U.S. wanted
00:14:33.860 to arrest Assange
00:14:35.020 to send him to Sweden
00:14:36.320 to face this
00:14:37.120 sexual misconduct investigation.
00:14:38.740 But all of this
00:14:39.640 shows us
00:14:40.460 that this is not about
00:14:41.580 a small investigation
00:14:42.980 in Sweden.
00:14:44.380 The U.S. wanted Assange
00:14:46.040 to punish him
00:14:46.760 for what he did.
00:14:47.760 And the U.K.,
00:14:49.020 it was looking like,
00:14:49.920 was ready to help them.
00:14:51.200 Sounds familiar?
00:14:52.540 Some guy exposes
00:14:53.720 the truth
00:14:54.720 about what's going on
00:14:55.960 behind the scenes,
00:14:57.560 tries to help the people,
00:14:59.280 and they make up
00:15:00.060 some sexual misconduct case
00:15:01.680 to get him arrested
00:15:02.800 and get him off
00:15:03.920 and so that they
00:15:04.700 can't talk anymore.
00:15:06.260 So while Assange is...
00:15:07.500 Not to get him off,
00:15:08.200 that was a bad choice of words.
00:15:09.360 You don't understand
00:15:09.820 what I was saying, right?
00:15:11.820 Yeah, I got you.
00:15:12.500 Okay, okay, okay.
00:15:13.260 In the walls of this embassy,
00:15:14.980 he's protected.
00:15:15.940 And the U.S. would have
00:15:16.640 to wait him out,
00:15:18.020 building their case.
00:15:19.840 But wait a minute,
00:15:20.540 hold on.
00:15:21.720 What exactly
00:15:22.640 are we charging Assange
00:15:24.020 with here?
00:15:24.780 He published a bunch
00:15:25.720 of leaked documents.
00:15:27.000 So what is the crime here?
00:15:28.780 And honestly,
00:15:29.360 that is the heart
00:15:30.000 of this story.
00:15:31.000 What crime did he commit?
00:15:32.780 I'm going to get there.
00:15:33.520 I want to just finish
00:15:34.040 the story of what happens next.
00:15:36.860 Is that treason
00:15:37.420 if he was an Australian?
00:15:40.400 He wasn't an American citizen?
00:15:41.560 No, he's Australian.
00:15:42.820 What the fuck?
00:15:43.840 Treason is he committing?
00:15:44.840 How is he a traitor?
00:15:46.040 Yeah, I don't know.
00:15:46.880 Julian Assange
00:15:47.600 is in an embassy
00:15:48.460 in London.
00:15:49.540 The weeks turn into months
00:15:51.180 and the months
00:15:51.940 turn into years.
00:15:53.880 And Julian Assange
00:15:54.780 is living in an embassy,
00:15:57.080 not leaving.
00:15:57.820 He occasionally comes out
00:15:59.060 onto this balcony
00:15:59.800 to deliver a speech
00:16:01.300 to his...
00:16:01.780 Goat.
00:16:02.720 Fucking go, bro.
00:16:03.980 Years at an embassy?
00:16:05.340 How did he get him out?
00:16:06.280 Huh?
00:16:06.540 How did he get him out?
00:16:07.760 I don't even...
00:16:08.360 I don't remember.
00:16:09.200 Support base.
00:16:10.200 Can you hear me?
00:16:12.820 But like,
00:16:13.720 this guy is confined
00:16:14.800 to the embassy.
00:16:15.860 Well, I joked
00:16:16.460 it's a little bit like
00:16:17.260 living in a space station
00:16:18.220 because there's no natural life
00:16:19.740 and there's...
00:16:20.600 You've got to make
00:16:21.100 all your own stuff
00:16:21.860 and you can't go out
00:16:23.140 to shops
00:16:23.560 and so on.
00:16:25.000 From the embassy,
00:16:26.020 Assange continues
00:16:26.940 to run WikiLeaks.
00:16:28.360 He publishes troves
00:16:29.560 of secret documents.
00:16:31.040 It is from the embassy
00:16:32.040 that he declares
00:16:33.040 his hate for Hillary Clinton.
00:16:34.780 The American liberal press
00:16:35.880 are in falling over themselves
00:16:38.020 to defend Hillary Clinton
00:16:39.920 are erecting a demon
00:16:41.900 that is going to put nooses
00:16:44.020 around everyone.
00:16:44.840 Yeah!
00:16:45.880 Lock her up!
00:16:47.100 Lock her up!
00:16:48.040 Exactly, bro!
00:16:49.160 Yo, Hillary Clinton king!
00:16:50.920 Who's next?
00:16:51.460 And it is here
00:16:52.180 that he orchestrates
00:16:53.240 a plan to damage
00:16:54.900 her campaign
00:16:55.780 by strategically
00:16:56.600 publishing emails
00:16:57.660 that were stolen from...
00:16:58.960 Why do you keep saying that?
00:17:00.700 No, like,
00:17:01.380 Hillary Clinton sucks
00:17:02.480 like in Minecraft.
00:17:03.620 Like, not in real life.
00:17:04.400 Like, Hillary Clinton K
00:17:05.240 in a video game.
00:17:06.940 Oh, got you.
00:17:07.820 You got what I'm saying?
00:17:08.700 Yeah, Hillary Clinton
00:17:09.420 is the worst person
00:17:10.640 ever to exist
00:17:11.600 and she's literally
00:17:12.180 a walking demon lizard
00:17:13.440 in Minecraft.
00:17:14.620 Democratic Party
00:17:15.480 and from Clinton's
00:17:16.780 campaign chair,
00:17:17.520 John Podesta,
00:17:18.600 WikiLeaks posted
00:17:19.480 these emails
00:17:20.180 in daily batches
00:17:21.520 throughout October 2016,
00:17:23.420 a month before the election.
00:17:25.040 Soon,
00:17:25.560 mounting evidence
00:17:26.380 showed that WikiLeaks
00:17:27.480 got these emails,
00:17:28.660 potentially unknowingly,
00:17:30.160 from a Russian government agent
00:17:31.660 who, like Assange,
00:17:33.300 was trying to damage
00:17:34.240 the Clinton campaign.
00:17:35.480 The leaked emails
00:17:36.400 helped the Trump campaign
00:17:37.820 and quickly made Assange
00:17:39.580 an enemy
00:17:40.200 of American progressives
00:17:41.760 who had tended
00:17:42.580 to support Assange
00:17:43.840 and WikiLeaks
00:17:44.660 because they were
00:17:45.800 keeping the government
00:17:46.780 and the military accountable.
00:17:49.020 But now they hated them.
00:17:49.860 WikiLeaks.
00:17:50.720 I love WikiLeaks.
00:17:51.640 So now it's 2017.
00:17:52.580 Yo, bro.
00:17:53.860 Yo, yo, yo.
00:17:54.780 I'm really starting
00:17:55.520 to be convinced, bro.
00:17:56.720 I would vote for Trump
00:17:57.880 in 2024.
00:17:59.060 I would vote for Trump.
00:18:00.200 But I think
00:18:01.060 in Minecraft,
00:18:02.080 they would try
00:18:02.660 to maybe
00:18:03.620 alter the course
00:18:05.600 and change your votes
00:18:07.280 based on mail-in ballots
00:18:08.560 in Minecraft.
00:18:09.360 ...and Trump is president.
00:18:11.440 This WikiLeaks
00:18:12.120 is unbelievable.
00:18:13.260 Assange is still
00:18:14.260 in the embassy.
00:18:15.420 And from the embassy,
00:18:16.740 Assange and WikiLeaks
00:18:18.140 drop another huge leak,
00:18:19.860 this time of CIA documents.
00:18:21.920 It revealed the playbook
00:18:23.300 of the CIA's
00:18:24.220 cyber warfare strategy.
00:18:25.780 Don't you see how
00:18:26.260 they just deleted Tate
00:18:27.480 off of all social media
00:18:28.480 just like they deleted
00:18:29.340 Trump off of all social media?
00:18:31.300 An outsider who's
00:18:32.200 made money
00:18:32.740 not being...
00:18:34.280 Well, Trump was buddy-buddy
00:18:35.600 with some of the elites,
00:18:36.540 but Trump was an outsider.
00:18:37.960 He wasn't part of the system.
00:18:40.180 So that triggers
00:18:41.960 the powers that be
00:18:42.980 and they just had to
00:18:43.620 erase him
00:18:44.240 instead of dealing with them
00:18:45.380 because people
00:18:45.880 who are outside like that
00:18:47.040 who don't conform,
00:18:48.500 that's why they just
00:18:49.000 raided his house.
00:18:49.980 They're the biggest threat
00:18:51.100 to the agenda.
00:18:53.180 Releasing all of these documents
00:18:54.740 has one major...
00:18:56.040 This is actually mad interesting.
00:18:57.140 ...result.
00:18:58.140 Making all of the CIA's tools
00:19:00.320 completely worthless.
00:19:02.080 Trump,
00:19:02.540 who had praised WikiLeaks
00:19:04.340 for like helping him
00:19:05.260 get elected,
00:19:06.120 now hated WikiLeaks.
00:19:07.820 No!
00:19:08.420 I know nothing about WikiLeaks.
00:19:10.360 It's not my thing.
00:19:11.520 WikiLeaks walks like a hostage.
00:19:12.960 Hostile intelligence service
00:19:13.840 and talks...
00:19:14.920 Never mind about what I said about Trump.
00:19:16.460 ...like a hostile
00:19:17.000 intelligence service.
00:19:18.340 So by 2019,
00:19:19.900 Julian Assange is still
00:19:21.180 in the embassy
00:19:21.920 and now he's pissed off everyone
00:19:23.600 for one reason.
00:19:24.560 It didn't seem like he dissed it,
00:19:25.400 it just seems like he backtracked.
00:19:26.460 I don't know anything about WikiLeaks,
00:19:28.100 but...
00:19:28.540 Bot.
00:19:29.280 I'm a bot.
00:19:30.020 Nah, Trump.
00:19:30.740 Yeah.
00:19:31.320 Trump does some bot shit.
00:19:32.800 It's at this time
00:19:33.800 that the Trump administration
00:19:34.820 starts to really get serious
00:19:37.040 about how do we get this guy
00:19:38.660 and how do we punish him
00:19:40.140 severely for what he's done.
00:19:41.760 They start upping the ante
00:19:43.000 on their case
00:19:43.820 against Julian Assange.
00:19:45.180 But Assange starts
00:19:46.300 to get really restless
00:19:47.320 in the embassy.
00:19:48.260 I mean, can you blame him?
00:19:49.000 It's been like seven years.
00:19:50.540 He starts to mistrust his hosts
00:19:52.700 and in turn,
00:19:54.140 his hosts,
00:19:54.860 the Ecuadorian diplomats,
00:19:56.360 are getting kind of tired of him.
00:19:57.980 His poor hygiene,
00:19:59.160 his habit of playing football
00:20:00.560 in the hallways.
00:20:01.600 Meanwhile, Ecuador's new president...
00:20:02.920 Seven years in there
00:20:04.120 is crazy, bro.
00:20:05.580 Let the guy play a little football
00:20:06.820 in the hallways.
00:20:07.540 I mean, I understand
00:20:08.200 why he went insane.
00:20:09.220 I understand.
00:20:10.320 I mean, of course
00:20:10.980 I would get rude in there.
00:20:11.980 Kurt is like less sympathetic
00:20:13.200 to WikiLeaks
00:20:13.980 because he was actually
00:20:15.460 the subject
00:20:15.980 of some embarrassing leaks himself.
00:20:17.740 He actually called Assange
00:20:18.960 a miserable hacker
00:20:20.160 whose only goal
00:20:21.020 is to destabilize governments.
00:20:22.920 And so,
00:20:24.060 they kicked him out.
00:20:25.880 Wow.
00:20:26.760 He got addicted.
00:20:27.280 The British police
00:20:28.180 were seemingly invited
00:20:29.460 into this very small embassy.
00:20:31.340 Seven years after
00:20:32.300 he had walked into this building,
00:20:34.380 Assange finally left.
00:20:37.500 He was immediately arrested.
00:20:39.960 Again, on paper,
00:20:41.300 the UK government wanted him
00:20:42.680 because of this sexual investigation
00:20:44.500 in Sweden from 2000...
00:20:45.980 Well, that investigation
00:20:47.780 had been dropped
00:20:48.580 and yet the UK kept him in jail
00:20:50.720 because the US
00:20:52.400 had formally requested
00:20:54.140 Assange to be extradited.
00:20:55.960 You see how all the governments
00:20:56.940 work together?
00:20:58.040 Which basically means
00:20:59.000 one country
00:20:59.600 asked another country
00:21:00.700 to detain
00:21:01.540 and send a criminal
00:21:02.720 back to their country
00:21:03.940 to face charges.
00:21:05.260 The UK would hear
00:21:06.580 and assess the US's request
00:21:08.340 and in the meantime,
00:21:09.780 Assange would sit
00:21:10.840 in the Belmarch prison
00:21:12.180 45 minutes from central London.
00:21:14.500 And that's where he is today
00:21:15.960 when I'm filming this.
00:21:17.280 And he's not doing great.
00:21:19.680 He's been examined
00:21:20.460 by doctors
00:21:21.880 and by the...
00:21:23.000 Free this man!
00:21:24.740 A living legend!
00:21:26.220 A hero!
00:21:27.520 And the amount of people
00:21:28.380 wishing death on him
00:21:29.580 is just really eye-opening
00:21:31.760 to the fact that people
00:21:32.680 will adamantly defend
00:21:33.900 the Matrix
00:21:34.360 instead of...
00:21:36.280 And it kind of shows you
00:21:39.000 that there's no way around it.
00:21:40.040 I think if the US wants you,
00:21:41.340 they're going to get you
00:21:41.960 one way or the other.
00:21:42.440 Yeah, they're going to get you
00:21:43.140 when you start whistleblowing.
00:21:44.680 But this is a fucking hero.
00:21:47.100 ...when representative
00:21:47.960 for torture.
00:21:49.660 And they've basically...
00:21:51.120 Yeah, they're probably
00:21:51.600 torturing him right now.
00:21:52.660 What do you think they're doing to him?
00:21:56.100 I don't even want to...
00:21:56.740 ...cluded that Assange
00:21:57.740 has experienced
00:21:58.720 severe psychological trauma
00:22:00.980 because of his isolation
00:22:02.320 in the embassy
00:22:03.020 and now in jail,
00:22:04.380 including extreme stress,
00:22:05.920 chronic anxiety,
00:22:06.920 intense psychological trauma.
00:22:08.700 The British government,
00:22:09.520 of course,
00:22:09.800 disagreed with this.
00:22:11.040 But the UN has said
00:22:12.720 that he has been subject
00:22:14.100 to psychological torture
00:22:15.720 and other cruel,
00:22:17.020 inhumane,
00:22:17.760 or degrading treatment
00:22:18.880 of punishment.
00:22:20.160 They also claim that
00:22:21.260 he's been medically neglected.
00:22:23.700 Many are calling this
00:22:24.920 retaliation.
00:22:26.180 Why didn't Trump pardon him?
00:22:28.220 Punishing assaults,
00:22:28.860 not legally,
00:22:30.600 but through these
00:22:31.440 really inhumane ways
00:22:32.520 of not giving him
00:22:33.260 medical treatment,
00:22:34.640 isolating him
00:22:35.460 in ways that aren't warranted.
00:22:37.120 And now is the moment
00:22:37.920 where we need to remind ourselves
00:22:39.240 why this man is in jail.
00:22:41.500 Not because he's been charged
00:22:42.660 with a crime,
00:22:43.580 but because he published
00:22:44.580 hundreds of thousands
00:22:45.340 of classified documents
00:22:46.520 that an army intel analyst,
00:22:48.520 Chelsea Manning,
00:22:49.160 gave to him.
00:22:50.000 And the U.S. wants to punish him.
00:22:52.000 So he's rotting in a jail.
00:22:53.840 They want to punish him
00:22:54.880 for telling the truth.
00:22:56.560 They want to silence him
00:22:57.480 for telling...
00:22:57.720 He committed no crime.
00:22:59.040 What crime did he commit?
00:23:00.540 What?
00:23:00.780 Isn't that freedom of speech?
00:23:02.000 He's not even an American.
00:23:03.200 It's not treason.
00:23:05.660 Waiting for the legal process
00:23:07.200 on whether or not
00:23:07.940 he's going to get sent back
00:23:08.740 to the U.S.
00:23:09.240 to face these charges.
00:23:10.840 And to me,
00:23:11.500 this gets to the most important
00:23:12.900 part of this story.
00:23:13.840 Because what happens next
00:23:15.600 affects not just Julian Assange
00:23:17.740 and his story,
00:23:19.060 but it could set a precedent
00:23:20.280 for all of us.
00:23:22.060 Those of us who do journalism
00:23:23.200 and those of us
00:23:24.020 who rely on journalism
00:23:25.760 to teach us about the world.
00:23:27.360 What I want to do next
00:23:28.400 is I want to dive into this stuff.
00:23:30.920 I want to walk you through
00:23:32.520 these two documents,
00:23:34.360 which are basically
00:23:35.320 the U.S.' case
00:23:36.780 against Julian Assange,
00:23:38.440 as laid out
00:23:39.200 by the Trump administration
00:23:40.240 in 2018.
00:23:41.440 It's daunting.
00:23:42.820 It's a lot of stuff.
00:23:43.620 It's a lot of legal jargon.
00:23:45.260 But Trump used him
00:23:46.820 to get elected.
00:23:48.140 I love WikiLeaks.
00:23:49.440 I love WikiLeaks.
00:23:50.420 WikiLeaks is the greatest.
00:23:51.900 And then he's the one
00:23:52.680 who wrote up the case,
00:23:53.840 his administration.
00:23:54.720 Been through it all.
00:23:55.880 And I want to explain why this happened.
00:23:57.340 They're all not voting, bro.
00:23:59.040 Everybody got to vote
00:23:59.800 independent or something.
00:24:00.700 Okay, let's do this.
00:24:02.020 Oh, shit.
00:24:02.780 Here we go.
00:24:05.680 Okay.
00:24:06.720 Okay.
00:24:07.120 So stick with me
00:24:09.160 as I explain
00:24:09.900 the legal case
00:24:10.960 against Julian Assange
00:24:11.860 and what that means
00:24:13.120 for journalism.
00:24:15.920 Okay, we get it, dude.
00:24:16.920 You have a lot of papers and stuff.
00:24:18.340 Just read the information.
00:24:20.640 The thing that
00:24:21.480 the Department of Justice
00:24:22.320 focuses on
00:24:23.280 is the events of 2010
00:24:25.440 when Assange received
00:24:27.400 tons of classified cables
00:24:29.480 and war logs
00:24:30.360 from Intel analyst
00:24:31.940 Chelsea Manning,
00:24:33.000 who was previously
00:24:34.040 Bradley Manning
00:24:34.880 has transitioned
00:24:35.560 to Chelsea Manning.
00:24:36.640 Manning had a security clearance,
00:24:38.920 violated that security clearance,
00:24:40.480 and ended up
00:24:41.840 serving seven years in prison
00:24:43.540 for leaking
00:24:44.400 all of this stuff
00:24:45.320 to WikiLeaks.
00:24:46.320 It would have been 35 years.
00:24:47.700 W. Chelsea Manning
00:24:48.800 did seven years
00:24:50.220 so that we could know the truth.
00:24:51.240 If Obama hadn't
00:24:52.180 lessened her sentence.
00:24:53.480 So the U.S. focuses...
00:24:54.440 Oh, that's a woman?
00:24:55.560 It used to be Bradley Manning.
00:24:58.220 You didn't hear him say that?
00:24:59.600 A word?
00:25:00.200 Yeah, they transitioned.
00:25:01.360 I thought you were joking.
00:25:02.220 Nah.
00:25:02.720 Huh.
00:25:03.660 On this super giant leak.
00:25:05.700 They start out by reminding us
00:25:07.500 just how many documents
00:25:09.440 were leaked.
00:25:10.540 If you add this up,
00:25:11.140 it's like over 700,000
00:25:12.960 classified documents
00:25:14.220 were leaked to the world.
00:25:16.500 And then they go
00:25:17.600 into the actual crimes.
00:25:19.220 What they see is the crimes.
00:25:20.460 There's 18 counts.
00:25:21.920 Basically, 18 instances
00:25:23.380 where they allege
00:25:24.400 he broke the law.
00:25:25.400 In total,
00:25:26.220 this would be a sentence
00:25:26.900 of 175 years in prison.
00:25:29.380 Luckily,
00:25:29.680 we don't have to go through
00:25:30.720 all 18 counts
00:25:31.700 to understand them
00:25:32.540 because they fit pretty nicely
00:25:34.020 into three main buckets.
00:25:36.200 Hacking,
00:25:37.280 aiding,
00:25:38.020 and publishing.
00:25:38.920 First, let's go into hacking.
00:25:40.320 The first bucket.
00:25:41.260 It's about
00:25:41.940 assisting the hacking.
00:25:43.700 This first allegation
00:25:44.660 is the least scary
00:25:45.900 for Julian Assange.
00:25:47.180 It basically says
00:25:48.020 that Assange
00:25:49.080 worked with Manning
00:25:50.440 to crack a password
00:25:52.100 on a government computer
00:25:53.300 so that Manning
00:25:54.660 could grab documents
00:25:56.200 without being detected.
00:25:57.840 Incidentally,
00:25:58.420 it didn't work.
00:25:59.280 They didn't crack
00:25:59.980 the password.
00:26:01.120 But the indictment
00:26:02.880 alleges that he tried
00:26:04.320 and therefore,
00:26:05.600 it is considered
00:26:06.220 a conspiracy
00:26:06.940 to commit computer fraud,
00:26:09.080 which is a violation
00:26:09.900 of this like
00:26:10.660 80s era law
00:26:12.560 called the Computer Fraud
00:26:13.680 Abuse Act.
00:26:14.700 It has a max sentence
00:26:15.640 of five years.
00:26:16.460 So they just made up
00:26:17.300 a bunch of bullshit
00:26:17.960 to give him
00:26:18.720 the longest sentence
00:26:19.580 of all time
00:26:20.220 just and torture him.
00:26:22.300 But if you think about it,
00:26:24.080 he was doing
00:26:24.520 the most American shit ever
00:26:25.720 even as a non-American.
00:26:27.380 Exposing the government,
00:26:28.360 exercising freedom of speech
00:26:29.980 and giving the power
00:26:31.320 back to the people.
00:26:32.720 Years,
00:26:33.060 which for Julian Assange
00:26:34.060 is not that big of a deal
00:26:35.260 given that he spent
00:26:36.520 seven years
00:26:37.420 in the Ecuadorian embassy
00:26:38.640 evading the charges.
00:26:40.460 Okay,
00:26:40.680 so that's the first one,
00:26:41.960 the least severe.
00:26:42.980 The other 17 counts
00:26:44.320 allege that Julian Assange
00:26:46.020 violated the Espionage Act.
00:26:49.020 He has to answer
00:26:50.880 for what he has done.
00:26:52.720 Wait, what?
00:26:53.820 The Espionage Act?
00:26:54.940 Hold on.
00:26:55.320 You know I printed it off
00:26:57.860 and read through
00:26:59.200 the Espionage Act.
00:27:00.540 I mean, look at that cool font.
00:27:03.920 The Espionage Act
00:27:05.440 is really intense.
00:27:07.440 It was passed in 1917
00:27:09.440 when we were fighting
00:27:10.960 World War I.
00:27:12.320 I'm going to read some of it here.
00:27:13.240 This law was meant
00:27:29.920 to punish people
00:27:31.440 who were government employees
00:27:33.220 or members of the military
00:27:35.220 who had government secrets
00:27:36.680 and went and gave them
00:27:38.520 to another nation
00:27:39.460 that then hurt the United States.
00:27:41.260 It's basically spies, espionage.
00:27:42.860 That's what it's about, espionage.
00:27:44.480 Chelsea Manning violated this
00:27:46.280 because she was a member
00:27:49.120 of the military.
00:27:50.180 She had a security clearance.
00:27:51.980 She violated that security clearance
00:27:53.500 by using her privileged information
00:27:55.840 and therefore broke this law.
00:27:58.060 But Julian Assange
00:27:58.880 is not that.
00:28:00.760 He has never worked
00:28:01.780 for the US government.
00:28:02.640 He's never had a security clearance.
00:28:04.140 He's an Australian
00:28:04.900 hacker and activist.
00:28:06.980 It is very, very rare
00:28:08.420 that the Espionage Act
00:28:09.760 is used against somebody
00:28:11.180 who is not a government employee,
00:28:13.180 who does not have
00:28:13.600 a security clearance.
00:28:14.640 So what is going on here?
00:28:16.200 How is the US trying
00:28:17.300 to use the Espionage Act
00:28:19.120 against an Australian
00:28:20.960 who didn't leak any information?
00:28:23.680 He published information
00:28:25.080 that was leaked to him.
00:28:26.160 So bucket two,
00:28:34.320 I'm calling aiding or pelping.
00:28:36.440 The US case here
00:28:37.640 uses the Espionage Act
00:28:39.220 to say that indeed
00:28:40.480 it was Chelsea Manning
00:28:41.860 who broke the law directly.
00:28:43.740 As an army intel analyst,
00:28:45.200 it was her who had access
00:28:46.660 to the secrets.
00:28:47.560 She leaked to them.
00:28:48.440 But in US federal law,
00:28:49.900 we have this thing
00:28:50.740 that says that
00:28:51.600 if you aid someone
00:28:52.940 in committing a crime,
00:28:54.140 you are punishable
00:28:55.680 kind of as if
00:28:56.840 you've broken the law yourself.
00:28:58.520 Yep, got it right here.
00:29:00.260 Title 18, folks.
00:29:01.840 Crimes and criminal procedure.
00:29:05.300 Whoever commits an offense
00:29:06.340 against the United States
00:29:07.420 or aids, abets,
00:29:08.780 counsels, commands,
00:29:09.900 induces, or procures
00:29:11.080 its commission
00:29:11.800 is punishable as a principle.
00:29:14.300 If you helped out,
00:29:15.300 you did it too.
00:29:16.020 So they use this law to say,
00:29:18.200 yeah, Julian,
00:29:19.680 you didn't do the hacking
00:29:20.860 and leaking,
00:29:21.560 but like you helped.
00:29:22.820 You aided, abetted,
00:29:24.280 counsel-induced,
00:29:25.100 or procured,
00:29:25.700 and willingly caused
00:29:26.740 Manning to do this
00:29:28.680 because you promised
00:29:29.780 that you were going
00:29:30.780 to publish all this stuff.
00:29:32.220 So that was sort of like
00:29:33.080 incentivizing Chelsea Manning
00:29:34.680 to do this.
00:29:35.500 And that is why
00:29:36.340 you are being punished
00:29:37.480 under the Espionage Act.
00:29:38.960 Wait, this is a giant deal.
00:29:41.500 This is a big deal.
00:29:42.340 This logical chain
00:29:43.880 that was just created.
00:29:45.480 Assange is being charged
00:29:46.960 with aiding Manning,
00:29:49.080 a convicted spy,
00:29:50.160 because he published
00:29:52.880 the things
00:29:53.540 that the spy gave to him.
00:29:55.180 Okay?
00:29:56.340 File that away for a second.
00:29:57.600 Let's get on
00:29:58.040 to the third bucket in here.
00:29:59.620 The third bucket
00:30:00.240 I'm calling publishing.
00:30:02.080 Counts 15 through 17.
00:30:04.300 And let's just read directly
00:30:05.320 straight here
00:30:05.820 from the indictment.
00:30:06.760 The government says
00:30:07.400 that Assange,
00:30:08.660 having unauthorized possession
00:30:10.020 of all of these reports
00:30:12.380 from Afghanistan and Iraq
00:30:13.660 and the State Department,
00:30:14.700 et cetera,
00:30:15.040 which, again,
00:30:15.780 he had sort of induced
00:30:16.760 Manning to give to him.
00:30:18.660 They then specifically
00:30:19.660 alleged that the crime here
00:30:21.320 is that having
00:30:23.200 all of these documents,
00:30:24.180 he then communicated
00:30:25.340 those documents
00:30:26.340 to the world
00:30:27.740 by publishing them
00:30:29.260 on the internet.
00:30:30.440 Whoa.
00:30:31.460 The crime
00:30:32.400 is publishing.
00:30:34.520 That's the crime.
00:30:35.820 Counts 15 through 17
00:30:37.120 are that he published
00:30:38.680 something.
00:30:40.020 This is posting stuff
00:30:41.040 on the internet.
00:30:45.040 It's just crazy, bro.
00:30:46.920 W, Julian.
00:30:48.980 Great take.
00:30:52.200 You like that one?
00:30:53.360 That was good.
00:30:53.880 Turbin.
00:30:56.140 Okay.
00:30:57.020 We're done
00:30:57.740 with the legal talk here.
00:30:59.840 Let's talk about
00:31:01.160 what this means.
00:31:02.700 Back to our three buckets here.
00:31:04.820 The first one
00:31:05.660 is the least scary to me.
00:31:07.520 Did Assange
00:31:08.260 try to help Manning
00:31:09.340 hack a password
00:31:10.180 so that he can remain anonymous?
00:31:12.020 Maybe.
00:31:12.660 The facts aren't
00:31:13.560 super robust here,
00:31:14.780 but whatever.
00:31:15.760 If there is evidence
00:31:16.440 for that
00:31:16.740 and he gets convicted,
00:31:17.520 that's five years in prison.
00:31:18.840 Okay.
00:31:19.200 It's these other two buckets
00:31:20.900 that use the Espionage Act
00:31:22.980 that say that Assange
00:31:23.940 was aiding Manning
00:31:25.300 because he promised
00:31:26.180 to publish the documents.
00:31:27.660 And then he went further
00:31:28.380 and committed
00:31:28.780 three more crimes
00:31:29.600 by actually publishing them
00:31:31.260 to all the world
00:31:32.280 on the internet.
00:31:35.120 Let me explain
00:31:35.880 something about journalism
00:31:36.560 really quick.
00:31:38.520 New York Times article
00:31:39.720 about Iran,
00:31:41.020 doesn't matter,
00:31:41.500 whatever.
00:31:41.780 When you read
00:31:42.240 the international section
00:31:43.180 or the politics section
00:31:44.280 of any big newspaper,
00:31:45.680 you will see quotes
00:31:47.040 from officials
00:31:48.780 inside the government
00:31:49.560 or diplomats
00:31:50.820 or whatever
00:31:51.360 who request
00:31:52.240 to remain anonymous
00:31:53.700 quote,
00:31:54.780 because of the sensitivity
00:31:55.740 of the subject.
00:31:56.520 What this means
00:31:56.960 is some government official
00:31:57.800 talked to the reporter
00:31:59.040 at the New York Times
00:31:59.960 and said,
00:32:01.180 hey,
00:32:01.440 I kind of want to remain anonymous
00:32:02.720 because I'm not really
00:32:03.760 supposed to be talking
00:32:04.740 to you about this,
00:32:05.660 but I think the information
00:32:07.000 that I'm giving you
00:32:07.780 is for the public interest
00:32:09.360 and so I'm going to do it anyway.
00:32:11.160 Please don't reveal my name.
00:32:12.560 And the New York Times
00:32:13.200 is like,
00:32:13.600 okay, cool.
00:32:14.620 And they publish it.
00:32:15.360 That happens
00:32:15.840 every single day
00:32:17.400 all of the time.
00:32:18.320 That is one of the
00:32:19.200 most important aspects
00:32:20.720 of journalism
00:32:21.240 is that a journalist
00:32:22.060 can have a source
00:32:22.880 who feels protected
00:32:24.320 because they can remain anonymous
00:32:26.080 even if they talk
00:32:28.260 Basically,
00:32:29.400 freedom of speech is dead.
00:32:30.780 Just,
00:32:31.160 I can summarize
00:32:31.780 the last six minutes
00:32:32.660 of this video.
00:32:34.200 Four minutes.
00:32:35.040 About sensitive
00:32:35.920 or classified information.
00:32:37.300 Why?
00:32:37.920 Because in our society,
00:32:39.180 we value the flow
00:32:41.180 of important information.
00:32:42.620 And chat,
00:32:43.000 there's people donating right now.
00:32:44.080 This guy said,
00:32:44.680 this dude sent me $50
00:32:46.020 so I can get in touch with them.
00:32:47.060 I don't really care
00:32:47.720 what you have to say.
00:32:48.780 I have a tier on my Patreon
00:32:49.880 where you can like
00:32:50.580 pay for a one-on-one call,
00:32:51.700 but just because
00:32:52.520 you send me money
00:32:53.640 doesn't mean that
00:32:54.200 I'm entitled to talk to you.
00:32:55.400 for the public
00:32:56.020 even if the government
00:32:57.180 has deemed it
00:32:58.100 to be classified.
00:32:59.280 So,
00:32:59.580 according to the indictment
00:33:00.920 from the Department of Justice,
00:33:02.540 any New York Times article
00:33:03.820 that is quoting
00:33:04.840 a government official
00:33:06.320 who's talking
00:33:06.860 about classified information,
00:33:08.380 if the New York Times
00:33:09.140 publishes that,
00:33:10.800 espionage.
00:33:12.180 I mean,
00:33:12.400 that's what they're saying here.
00:33:13.940 In fact,
00:33:14.600 tons of the leaks
00:33:15.720 that WikiLeaks published
00:33:17.380 in 2010 and 2011
00:33:18.760 were also published
00:33:20.540 by Der Spiegel
00:33:22.180 or the New York Times
00:33:23.460 or the Guardian.
00:33:24.400 Oh, wait,
00:33:25.080 but Julian Assange
00:33:25.980 isn't a journalist.
00:33:27.300 He's not like
00:33:27.660 the New York Times reporter.
00:33:28.760 Those are like
00:33:29.160 technically legitimate journalists.
00:33:31.520 No.
00:33:32.700 Journalist is not
00:33:33.540 a legally defined status.
00:33:35.800 Journalists don't enjoy
00:33:36.520 some upgraded version
00:33:37.740 of free speech.
00:33:39.060 All journalism
00:33:39.700 takes place
00:33:40.640 within the free speech laws
00:33:42.220 that all of us enjoy.
00:33:44.520 Oh,
00:33:44.740 and I don't really-
00:33:45.240 No, we don't.
00:33:46.200 We don't all enjoy
00:33:47.260 freedom of speech laws.
00:33:48.200 I don't think you can say this,
00:33:49.280 but those laws,
00:33:50.220 those protections
00:33:50.840 are really,
00:33:51.880 really-
00:33:52.520 Barely from what they're
00:33:53.000 saying in the chat,
00:33:53.740 Chelsea Manning,
00:33:54.420 or what's your name?
00:33:54.960 Chelsea Manning?
00:33:55.480 Was on an L3L3 podcast.
00:33:56.720 Yeah, she got out
00:33:57.340 before Julian Assange did.
00:33:58.880 She's the one
00:33:59.200 who actually stole the shit.
00:34:00.220 Yeah, he got in trouble
00:34:01.360 for publishing it.
00:34:02.600 Maybe she turned trans
00:34:04.760 and sold to the government.
00:34:06.720 That's definitely-
00:34:07.200 I mean,
00:34:07.340 she was on L3L3.
00:34:08.360 You see what I'm saying?
00:34:09.660 Free speech is what
00:34:10.600 keeps our society transparent.
00:34:12.800 It keeps our government
00:34:13.620 accountable.
00:34:14.520 It is important.
00:34:16.060 And it is rare.
00:34:16.940 It's a new thing.
00:34:17.700 Like,
00:34:17.980 being able to hold
00:34:18.820 governments accountable
00:34:19.560 is like,
00:34:20.500 kind of a brand new thing.
00:34:21.840 What the fuck?
00:34:29.960 Yo, chat.
00:34:31.000 I had a great night.
00:34:33.040 I don't know
00:34:33.700 what he's been talking about.
00:34:34.500 I just got here.
00:34:35.360 Like, 10 seconds.
00:34:36.200 This is all hypothetical
00:34:37.060 in Minecraft.
00:34:38.440 Yo.
00:34:39.260 I love the CIA.
00:34:40.940 There's nothing greater
00:34:41.840 than the CIA.
00:34:43.360 Yeah,
00:34:43.760 you want to find us?
00:34:44.560 Pull up to us.
00:34:45.020 We in Utah right now.
00:34:46.000 Come slide.
00:34:47.360 Utah, yeah.
00:34:48.020 We in Utah.
00:34:48.660 Come find us, CIA.
00:34:50.420 Yeah.
00:34:50.900 Pussies.
00:34:51.940 Wrong.
00:34:54.900 In human civilization,
00:34:57.040 it's not natural.
00:34:58.280 It's not guaranteed.
00:34:59.500 It can easily go away.
00:35:00.740 So that is why
00:35:01.560 I'm concerned
00:35:02.220 about this case.
00:35:04.260 Yeah, go ahead.
00:35:05.140 Charge Julian Assange
00:35:06.180 with the conspiracy
00:35:07.540 to hack into
00:35:08.260 a government computer.
00:35:09.380 But as soon as you introduce
00:35:10.380 the Espionage Act
00:35:11.600 into what he did,
00:35:12.580 you start to play with fire.
00:35:14.680 You're setting a precedent
00:35:15.920 that could easily be applied
00:35:17.380 to the journalism
00:35:18.560 that we rely on every day
00:35:19.980 to keep us informed
00:35:20.900 and to keep governments
00:35:22.300 and businesses accountable.
00:35:23.920 Oh,
00:35:24.240 and I'm not the only one
00:35:25.220 who's concerned by this.
00:35:26.740 The Obama administration
00:35:27.780 also worried
00:35:28.840 that pursuing Assange
00:35:30.180 would be dangerous
00:35:31.640 for free speech
00:35:32.700 and journalism.
00:35:33.800 So they didn't do it.
00:35:35.220 It was the Trump administration
00:35:36.220 that really doubled down
00:35:37.680 and tried to get Assange
00:35:39.340 and charge him.
00:35:40.460 What the hell?
00:35:41.180 Trump?
00:35:41.700 Trump!
00:35:42.520 Wrong.
00:35:43.100 How are you going to use
00:35:44.220 I love WikiLeaks?
00:35:46.320 WikiLeaks is the greatest.
00:35:48.540 And then be the one
00:35:49.380 who indicts him?
00:35:50.620 Ronald Lump.
00:35:51.840 Ronald Lump.
00:35:54.440 And, I mean,
00:35:55.860 are we surprised?
00:35:57.360 So the Biden administration
00:35:58.380 is sort of at a crossroads.
00:35:59.780 Like, what are they going to do?
00:36:00.700 Are they going to push this?
00:36:02.180 Are they going to try to charge
00:36:03.460 Julian Assange with espionage?
00:36:05.340 Well, it turns out
00:36:05.840 they are moving ahead
00:36:06.720 trying to get him extradited
00:36:08.300 to the U.S.
00:36:09.660 Okay, wait, wait, wait.
00:36:11.120 There's been news.
00:36:12.760 We were making this video.
00:36:13.940 We were editing it
00:36:14.680 just because we're interested
00:36:15.640 in Julian Assange.
00:36:16.700 And then news broke that...
00:36:19.180 The UK judge will rule tonight
00:36:20.480 on whether WikiLeaks found
00:36:21.620 that Julian Assange
00:36:22.500 should be extradited
00:36:23.660 to the United States.
00:36:24.960 Where a judge basically said
00:36:26.660 that it's totally legal
00:36:28.080 that Assange be sent
00:36:29.140 to the U.S. to face trial.
00:36:30.580 Where a judge approved
00:36:31.460 the extradition earlier today.
00:36:33.600 Meaning he's one step closer
00:36:34.680 to being extradited.
00:36:35.900 Now, he will...
00:36:36.780 Imagine being hated
00:36:37.560 internationally by governments.
00:36:39.900 Probably appeal this.
00:36:41.080 It'll probably go to
00:36:41.660 the high court in the UK.
00:36:43.700 But, like, he's one step closer.
00:36:45.360 How long could this drag out?
00:36:47.500 Sometime.
00:36:48.420 Maybe not so much time.
00:36:50.360 My whole purpose
00:36:50.980 in making this video
00:36:51.700 was not to defend
00:36:52.880 Julian Assange as a person.
00:36:54.760 Ah, backtracking.
00:36:56.040 Come on, bro.
00:36:57.100 Free Julian Assange, man.
00:36:58.560 I'm defending him.
00:36:59.740 In Minecraft.
00:37:00.260 Or even WikiLeaks
00:37:01.520 as an organization.
00:37:02.700 That's not the point.
00:37:03.520 You can make up your mind on that.
00:37:05.040 The thing that I hope
00:37:06.160 I've persuaded you, though,
00:37:07.860 is that Julian Assange's
00:37:09.440 legal case
00:37:10.280 has ramifications
00:37:11.400 for all of us.
00:37:12.480 If he's sent to the U.S.
00:37:13.560 and he's convicted
00:37:14.320 under the Espionage Act,
00:37:15.900 that will have major ramifications
00:37:17.760 on the future of journalism.
00:37:20.160 I hope that is clear now.
00:37:21.420 So, over the coming weeks
00:37:23.100 and months,
00:37:24.240 this case will play out
00:37:25.620 and you know
00:37:27.220 that I will be paying attention to it.
00:37:29.000 And my hope is
00:37:29.820 that you will be too.
00:37:31.640 All right, that's it.
00:37:34.520 That's all I've got for today.
00:37:37.060 Good video.
00:37:38.360 Chat a minute ago.
00:37:39.600 WStream, I'll see you tomorrow.
00:37:46.060 That's it.
00:37:46.480 Is this your job?
00:37:47.640 Thank you.
00:37:48.060 Thank you.