Nick Cannon joins Jemele to discuss his new book, and why he doesn t give a fuck about what other people think of him. Nick also talks about why he s not a white supremacist, why he thinks Donald Trump is a racist, and how he s the only person on the planet who s good enough to run the country.
00:09:10.780And I will say this because I wanted to get into the Trump stuff.
00:09:14.700When Kanye mentioned he got suspended on Twitter, then he gets word that his whole chat is
00:09:21.220el tim el tim el tim el tim my immediate you know my question is okay my thought to myself
00:09:26.580we really want to know about the inner details of this trump meeting i guess it's not going to
00:09:31.480happen my question then is don't you think that you know if if if kanye is going to say these
00:09:37.940things and then immediately start getting involved with fuentes that only amplifies the accusations
00:09:45.300made against them but i i guess if it's a great media play do you think about think about how
00:09:50.020many people are going to talk about him walking out i think to say a whole bunch of stuff during
00:09:53.960his you know his conversation i respectively you know didn't i was waiting to counter back but we
00:09:59.100didn't even push back at all really we didn't even really say anything uh crazy out there i mean
00:10:05.460that come on like we we should at least have the tough conversations we should debate these ideas
00:10:11.420what does he think's going on and i don't know but i wish i just wish people were again like hey
00:10:16.560you don't agree with me 100 that's fine that's okay i'm not gonna i gotta start walking out more
00:10:21.080you know i should have walked out of that value taming show he called and apologized i mean good
00:10:25.720for that but i should have just walked out as soon as i heard the disrespect as soon as i knew
00:10:29.640it was like a setup or they didn't actually want to hear me talk i should just dip i don't know
00:10:33.720why i tolerate that warning about specifically with people trying to drug him specifically with
00:10:38.020people trying to of course get him on big pharma medicines he was again sent to you know he was
00:10:44.500institutionalized a couple years ago specifically on november 21st 2016 he's pointing a lot of this
00:10:51.000blame on on this harley pasternak guy who uh again jatson nick points has even got to talk
00:10:56.260elliot page he was training britney murphy he trained a lot of controversial figures
00:11:00.400and he is connected to a canadian military psyops that's like we should know what else is happening
00:11:06.000behind the scenes there what else he knows but before the show we can't even get that before the
00:11:10.040show yay was like this was funny you know he's like how do i become president how do you win
00:11:14.580and i thought it was a rhetorical question because like why would i know that question
00:11:17.580and he was like hey man i asked you a question you know what do you think and i was like oh
00:11:21.200ballot harvesting like hands down you go to door to door he but he brought it up when he mentioned
00:11:25.640that i said that he would do well with the black vote i feel like that's kind of oversimplifying
00:11:29.200what i said um he ain't coming back chat it's they out they out he appeals to regular people
00:11:35.600more so if he knocked on the door and you said trump biden yay they'd be like yay you know but
00:11:40.960i but i do think that he would do uh i do think he would do better with with the black vote simply
00:11:47.100because there's people who look up to him because they see they can see themselves in him now let
00:11:53.040me let me let me elaborate that's actually more of a leftist position this woke position uh because
00:11:57.780i don't completely disagree with every every good on him for not ending the show and fumbling the
00:12:01.36093 000 viewers he has live right now true that if you're a little kid growing up in this country
00:12:05.000and you're not white but all you ever see on billboards and all you ever see in tv is white
00:12:10.020people that that means something that has an effect on you and that's basically what i'm
00:12:13.360getting to all i can really say is this uh bro if if i can't ask you questions call me like hey
00:12:20.780but don't you think this is like localizing he could have been like i don't you know i i genuinely
00:12:25.200view it this way and i'd have said well okay i can only ask you the question you're allowed to
00:12:29.000believe what you want to believe but dude like what did i ask him like three questions about it
00:12:33.240and he just got up and left like he's gonna come here and just talk and be an uninterrupted before
00:12:37.840we started the show he said hey we're doing this show why don't we do it every week and and i'm
00:12:42.160like what is this is this is what is because you can't get another on any other shows i'm sorry
00:12:46.780bro this is not a show where you come in and talk by yourself and say whatever you want and say
00:12:52.000things that are uh that that that warrant he's about to say at the very least he's about to say
00:12:57.880for clarification yeah i mean everything should be questioned everything should be uh debated
00:13:02.980everything should be you know talked about we shouldn't stray away from uncomfortable situations
00:13:07.580we we decide to take things head on like we have our particular viewpoints they have theirs we it's
00:13:13.780obviously there's a difference obviously we believe in different things let's see which idea is better
00:13:19.280let's see which said yay's brand is an intended for ideas and unorthodox topics of conversations
00:13:23.320and he doesn't have to say and converse with people who aren't willing to allow him to share
00:13:25.940those ideas limb in the chat yeah keep talking and keep talking but that's not how the show works
00:13:32.180we we cut each other off all the time i just cut you off right now i know right this is this is
00:13:36.740this is our this is the way we do the show guys i'm sorry man i'm not here to do it he wasn't
00:13:40.980with us so he left like look we had milo come on a couple weeks ago and he mostly just talked
00:13:44.760and i think there's there's something why can you do that for yay milo had been banned for a really
00:13:49.140long time and had hadn't spoken out in years he's been on a whole bunch of podcasts so when we were
00:13:55.260talking about bringing them on I said look man after after the Kyle Rittenhouse stuff people were
00:14:00.400like are you gonna get him on the show and I'm like I don't want to chase after a dude who like
00:14:04.300he's in the news yay goes on Rogan before he goes on Fridman and then I'm like that's cool they got
00:14:10.100the and Rogan let him talk then we were told we would get Milo Fuentes and yay at the same time
00:14:15.000and we could talk about this big news because that's what we do we are a topical news show
00:14:19.560with guests we are not Joe Rogan experience we're not guest interviews and so with Milo we had him
00:14:24.760And it turned into something different because the man's been out of the limelight for five years and came back and said Trump supporters want revenge.
00:14:31.220So here on this show, I don't I don't tell you, man, he doesn't have to do anything.