SNEAKO - June 21, 2024


SNEAKO Reunites With Nick Fuentes & Jake Shields


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 39 minutes

Words per Minute

226.52922

Word Count

22,472

Sentence Count

5

Misogynist Sentences

27

Hate Speech Sentences

96


Summary

In this episode, I sit down with my good friend and former co-host of the corporate war of 20s podcast, Charlie Kirk, to talk about how he got kicked out of the Groypers and why he decided to speak out about it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 yeah that was pretty crazy well it's not that crazy well I wasn't sure actually yeah because
00:00:15.360 they said we've been talking to him for an hour before you got there yeah not give us a clear
00:00:19.440 answer or saying like oh I think so but I think I got you think I got you no yeah I'm all right
00:00:26.220 I think I think a couple hundred fans for me didn't help when you want yeah that probably
00:00:30.300 yeah I think they kicked you out anyway so they were ready I think probably because I told them
00:00:35.060 how to pass for you they were probably and they weren't giving me a clear answer they kept just
00:00:38.820 like stringing me along they probably wanted me to come so I could take it what's the back story
00:00:43.260 I mean you told me a little bit about the corporate war of 20s I don't know 2019 2020 yeah why do you
00:00:49.440 have a beef with Charlie Kirk well I mean honestly they started it not to be that guy but I had
00:00:56.000 basically no interaction with them for years because I got started in 2017 and I had no
00:01:01.260 interaction with them that whole year 2018 2019 and then in 2019 I was in a photo with Ashley St.
00:01:08.860 Claire you know she's on Twitter she's her ex now she's a big influencer she's tied with Elon I was at
00:01:15.120 this party with her I was in a picture with her they fired her as an ambassador because she was in the
00:01:20.940 picture and that was the first shot basically because I had no beef with them she's Jewish too
00:01:25.980 right Ashley St. Clair yeah and you know she's actually a nice person I don't agree with her
00:01:31.240 on everything but I've known her for a long time and so we were in the photo they fired her as an
00:01:36.400 ambassador because she was in the photo so and then the griper war started but you know honestly the
00:01:42.940 griper war we all we did was participate in the event it's a speech and a Q&A so and by the way it
00:01:53.080 wasn't like we cooked it up I mean people were just spontaneously doing that everybody thinks I
00:01:57.900 was the mastermind I became the mastermind but it started out yeah I kind of you know we took it and
00:02:03.940 we wrote it but when it started in Colorado it was just two random guys they asked these questions and
00:02:09.700 it was pretty organic and I don't know I mean they claim to be like free marketplace of ideas were the
00:02:15.840 conservative movement but then when people actually want to critique them from the right rather than from
00:02:21.340 the left they say shut it down no more questions you can't participate and you know what's incredible
00:02:28.560 is just like the double standard they'll sit and debate socialists they claim communism killed 100
00:02:33.920 million people but they'll talk to communists I haven't killed anybody but they say you can't even
00:02:39.340 come in the building you know your people can't ask the questions so you know a lot of the
00:02:45.080 Groypers have heard the story a million times but it's just totally outrageous that we really do get
00:02:49.820 treated differently than anybody else it threw me a little off guard I thought it wasn't going to be
00:02:53.240 like treatment I thought we were going to get in and they just because that's what they're
00:02:56.220 sounding like me they want to give me a clear answer but sound like oh yeah we're going to get
00:02:59.180 this pass and then they come in it was boom they rushed up like five people in his face they
00:03:04.100 wouldn't say why I kept being like why is it being kicked out no answer just a higher up say can we
00:03:08.660 speak to higher ups yeah I asked to speak to higher ups I actually did talk to people
00:03:11.840 afterwards and got a private conversations that were like oh we agree with someone you say it's
00:03:16.760 just kind of why don't you say this publicly right we walked right in really yeah they were really
00:03:21.840 friendly both of you guys yeah right it was a lot of fun you should have came yeah I tried it's crazy how
00:03:29.140 awesome have you been I've had multiple people tell me I should have no contact with you that I'm
00:03:32.640 probably in my career for the future but I'm not going to live as a coward and like oh I can't talk to you you've been nothing you know you've been a friend to me we've been cool so how am I going to not talk to you until the people are telling me to you it's just
00:03:41.820 insane like I'm a grown man people tell me I can't talk to you it's insane to me that people
00:03:46.860 think they can tell me that yeah it's totally bizarre and it's um well it's amazing because people say now
00:03:53.740 that like cancel culture is over I've heard people say that it isn't no I mean it's over for some people
00:03:58.960 but if you're if you're an effective critic of the system they want to make it so that your life is
00:04:04.760 miserable and you know I think what they what they sort of recognize is like I'm clearly still popular
00:04:10.080 like I go to Turning Point and I get like a hero's welcome you got hundreds of people way I walked in
00:04:14.340 and it's like plaza like oh wow this is crazy people are saluting yeah they're cheering I'm signing
00:04:18.940 autographs and so they can't get rid of me they can't get rid of my following so they put ice on
00:04:24.360 everybody around me you know like people reach out to me I'm not going to say who but some big people
00:04:29.460 reach out to me and they say hey we want to have you on YouTube but you're banned on YouTube so if we
00:04:34.620 have you on our channel we're going to get banned well Tim and other people Tim didn't even reach out
00:04:40.460 Tim just like ghosted us yeah but it's pretty obvious why but after he gave me he gave me his
00:04:45.760 word that he was going to do it and they just you should have just called me and said I changed my
00:04:48.700 mind but instead he just stopped responding well how much they only put it on x right so they put it on
00:04:52.880 yeah that's right but that was cool they did it though because they knew I understand why because
00:04:57.060 like I said I'm looking to get a podcast going but they'll demonetize just for putting you on there
00:05:01.660 how crazy is that to grab me on the podcast because demonetize yeah I got like two strikes
00:05:05.480 for doing that so yeah and the Hodge twins lost a couple sponsors over me being on the show yeah
00:05:10.220 so it's just grabbing the balls to bring you on anyways you know more people are starting to have
00:05:14.200 the balls finally yeah it's the quickest shift it's the fastest shift in like the that there's ever
00:05:19.820 been in this movement it's got to be right have you noticed you've done AFPAC for how many years now
00:05:23.480 it's our fourth year this has got to be the most of my energy huh yeah it's the most people it's the most
00:05:28.880 energy and you know this war in Palestine is really what did it uh that coupled with the
00:05:35.720 Kanye thing the A24 Candace Owens getting fired from Daily Wire it's like basically all the things
00:05:42.620 we had talked about for seven years are now come to fruition all the ones yeah exactly it's hitting
00:05:48.000 everybody all at the same time and um and you know I said my pinned tweet on x is I got canceled for
00:05:55.620 saying they put Israel first now everybody sees what I was talking about you know because with
00:06:01.160 this war in Gaza it's so transparent it's so unpopular it's unpopular around the world and yet
00:06:07.060 it just goes on and on and on in defiance of everybody which it's like if the whole world says
00:06:13.300 you can't do it but it keeps going then what does that tell you about who runs the world did you tweet
00:06:18.620 that this is the first genocide that's been live streamed I think someone else tweeted that I think
00:06:22.700 yeah but it really puts things through but it is it's like I said I'm on all the telegram channels
00:06:26.840 it's terrible I don't know if you look at those but the stuff you see on those like I only put a few
00:06:30.600 videos out here and there there's hundreds of a day of these little kids getting blown up it's
00:06:33.920 it's disgusting and like I was telling him earlier the worst ones are the Israeli ones because they're
00:06:37.900 mocking it they're mocking at it I don't know if you remember those they're just sickening I can't go to those
00:06:41.500 very often yeah it's gross they're they're chauvinists and uh you know it's like we were
00:06:47.140 standing out there and uh I was saying oh there's that law that says that it's illegal to say the
00:06:52.540 Jews killed Jesus I'm like but they did yeah and there was a guy some boomer clearly Jewish he's
00:06:57.360 standing out there he's like the Romans the Romans killed Jesus it wasn't it was the Romans and I said
00:07:03.620 I'm sorry sir do you believe in Jesus and he goes he's not my savior oh well there you go yeah
00:07:09.540 case in point and you know but that that's just there that doesn't work you know this is a
00:07:15.640 Christian country this is America and the people that are calling all the shots they don't want to
00:07:22.320 die for America they don't want to die for Jesus they think they're better than everybody they think
00:07:26.880 that everybody's got to bow down for Israel and everybody's got to care about their feelings
00:07:30.340 about the Holocaust and about anti-semitism and everyone everyone knows it and I'm like one of the
00:07:36.200 only people obviously you and you also but I'm one of the people in politics that's saying no
00:07:41.260 f that like it's America first it's Christ is king and without exception absolutely and we confront
00:07:48.240 head-on this contradiction and that's why I'm canceled I mean so and Candace has jumped in a
00:07:54.660 little bit but yeah she named dropped you on Pierce Morgan I was surprised yeah she said positive things
00:07:58.900 too you're getting mainstream and I don't think they're gonna go stop but I think we had this talk a few
00:08:02.980 months ago and it's like you already see this direction changing I can't imagine for you what
00:08:07.120 it must have been like seven years ago like I'm glad that I just started learning all the past year
00:08:12.040 because I'm not very good to keep my mouth shut obviously I couldn't imagine I'd probably be like
00:08:15.480 you completely ostracized so it's uh must be crazy what you've gone through yeah it's been pretty horrible
00:08:21.500 but you know yeah but the vindication the vindication feels good I mean all I want is just that things
00:08:29.440 are set right you know I mean I don't care so much about me as long as you know we get America
00:08:35.260 to be put first as long as we get it's bigger than us it's about the country and that's I think
00:08:39.620 why we get along because right we're not trying to like oh I go this we're trying to make the country
00:08:43.060 better a lot of these guys like oh how can I get money out of this how can I how can my ego it's
00:08:47.140 like I just want a better country for our kids you know grandchildren is living that's why I think
00:08:51.460 Jake is going to be really useful in that uh in that regard a lot of other guys like have a lot
00:08:55.500 of ego towards it and resentment towards you totally uh and Jake's really like you could tell
00:08:59.880 him would you let Jake be the head of uh secret service as president yes absolutely yeah I got a job
00:09:05.620 secretary of defense or something yeah I saw that yeah you refuse to shake the guy's hand
00:09:15.280 yeah maybe a little nice service shit pisses me off yeah well so how did you guys uh destroy our
00:09:21.120 country you know it's like so these guys are like they're active and our country's being destroyed
00:09:25.560 the guy they're sitting back and watching it and debating going along with it and like I said
00:09:29.380 guy privately told me that agrees with a lot of it he's a high up guy it's like how are you keeping
00:09:33.060 this private then yeah because you prioritize money over truth that's why that's the only reason
00:09:38.180 that you put money before truth yeah so you were saying earlier that there's some guys like you
00:09:42.900 understand why they don't want to speak about their politics I think you absolutely should
00:09:45.900 now is the most crucial time to speak about this like when there's a genocide being
00:09:49.980 live stream like now more than ever people always talk about how like oh if the holocaust
00:09:53.660 was happening I would have I would have spoken up I would have they'd be sitting there with
00:09:57.640 these people's quiet right now say something but uh what how did you guys end up meeting each other
00:10:02.700 who a mutual friend of what's your name what is it uh tenrio tenrio yeah tenrio really yeah
00:10:06.820 did you see him come on the one minute podcast in uh new york yes yeah yeah yeah I met him in
00:10:12.480 new york and you know obviously he's black and he was sitting there I believe you're some
00:10:16.460 racist he's like oh you really should talk to nick he's um like isn't he a racist and he's like no
00:10:21.080 no he's not it's like all right give me his number I think I text you at some point and we kind of just
00:10:25.980 started talking a little bit from there and you know instantly I like I could tell he was genuine
00:10:29.920 I like nick not say we're like the most close I think people think we're closer than there are
00:10:32.940 people are always hitting me up asking me to get nick to do things so not to leave it has nick's phone
00:10:37.280 number I'm just kind of like uh why don't you hit him up but I think he's gone along right away and I can see he
00:10:41.840 was legitimately wants to save the country I'm a little bad too because I kind of believed that
00:10:46.220 he was just like demon and then we totally went 18 you were pushed away like that I just couldn't
00:10:50.760 imagine an 18 getting stripped from everything like even your own family probably thinking you're
00:10:55.480 just like bad person you're trying to help the country yeah yeah exactly that's everybody's first
00:11:00.060 reaction to you like I remember bringing you up to myra and he's like isn't that kind of like a
00:11:03.840 white supremacist I'm like oh he's cool he's always like you can't like white nationalists they're like
00:11:08.280 and then he met and obviously like you see what he thinks now he's very public about that
00:11:11.520 so but that's everybody's first impression yeah well that's their um it's like when yay tweeted
00:11:17.920 that a few years ago he said who do you think invented cancel culture that's who's behind it I
00:11:22.880 mean because with a guy like me the first question I asked I didn't you know when I started getting
00:11:28.360 into politics I was total normie but the one thing that stood out is I said this whole Israel thing
00:11:33.800 doesn't fit with America first that was it and from that point on they said oh well you hate
00:11:39.540 Muslims you hate black people you're white supremacists you're white nationals you're this
00:11:43.800 that and the other and it's this like reputational destruction it's all it's almost like I'm being
00:11:48.860 embargoed and that's kind of there's like an irony there because you know there's that BDS movement
00:11:54.520 boycott divest sanction and it's totally legitimate movement because they say here's this country that's
00:12:00.340 engaging in a genocide well we're not going to do business with you that's our prerogative that's
00:12:04.540 our freedom why would we support a country that's engaging in a genocide well they say that's
00:12:09.820 anti-semitic to engage in the BDS you cannot boycott divest or sanction Israel but if you criticize
00:12:15.360 Israel you get boycotted divested sanctioned if you criticize Israel you're banned from the payment
00:12:21.200 processors you get banned on YouTube you get blacklisted other people that associate with you get banned
00:12:27.020 like when we went on fresh and fit we were going to go live you me Zerka Myron Walter and they came
00:12:33.900 in and said oh you can't do the stream because Nick and Sneeko are banned from YouTube so you can't
00:12:38.400 stream it on YouTube and it's like those secondary effects so they it's ostracism like in like in
00:12:45.140 ancient times you were totally ostracized I hate to admit it but even when I went to it I'm like oh is this a good idea
00:12:50.020 yeah and I'm like a guy that's not scared of anything my finances are secure the fact that it even crosses my mind just shows how good of a job they've done
00:12:57.960 yeah like so you have dozens of octagon fights like going like not knowing if you're going to make out a lot
00:13:02.300 but the fact that it even crossed my mind just shows like how good of a job they've done because I'm kind of like I do whatever I want and I'm thinking like oh is it smart if I go you know have any
00:13:11.100 connection with this guy the fact that I've crossed my mind it's just cowardly I mean like I wasn't a coward but I could understand
00:13:16.660 I could understand why people would be scared to meet you because a lot of those fights aren't in order
00:13:20.540 they're not as strong they don't have finances and said it's uh it's tough yeah well it's it's really weird
00:13:27.520 because it's not like you're going to meet Al Capone which is like that's what Andrew Clavin said from DLA Wire
00:13:33.480 he's like oh well you know Nick says some things I agree with but he's no he's like a notorious person like an Al Capone like just
00:13:40.320 or you know Candace Owen said it's like oh if you have a dog and Hitler has a dog are you like Hitler or something like that
00:13:46.980 um and it's like you have that reaction about meeting me I'm not a murderer I'm not a rapist I'm not you know
00:13:54.180 Jeffrey Epstein was hanging out with like the world's most famous people that's fine if you're hanging out
00:13:59.740 with like Lolita Express and or Bill Clinton Kevin Spacey goes on Tucker Carlson Kevin Spacey who is accused
00:14:06.380 of raping kids 14 year old boys yeah and then they all mysteriously died so he can go on Lex Fridman
00:14:13.140 and he can go on Tucker and he can go on the show Piers Morgan recently too right Piers Morgan yeah
00:14:17.780 but not me why right because why like downplayed the holocaust or you know it might have been four
00:14:24.380 million instead of uh yeah right but that's fine a wooden door up or something like that yes
00:14:29.520 so to them that's worse uh being critical of Israel is worse than fucking kids yeah right
00:14:36.060 I mean I was a little shocked how we got big I thought we had it cleared it sounded like I told
00:14:40.620 them on the phone like oh I'm pretty sure we're getting it cleared right now and it was just
00:14:43.320 right away we were rushed up on yeah they zipped over to us in like five seconds they were like ready
00:14:48.820 waiting literally like walk through the door and they made a beeline hey can we see your id yeah you
00:14:53.900 can't exactly you already yeah well you must know some things uh as a you're more politically
00:15:01.100 involved than me what's going on at tpusa what's the narrative that they're trying to push i saw you
00:15:05.400 speaking about jd vance what do you think is the the big push that they want to do with tpusa
00:15:09.980 so with turning well with vance everyone's pushing vance now and the vance is being pushed with trump
00:15:17.640 because vance is getting money from peter teal and peter teal is like a big federal contractor like
00:15:23.400 they just got his company excuse me this is this is a huge topic so we can't get all the details but
00:15:28.820 his company palantir is contracted with the nsa with the cia and they do like ai they do facial
00:15:36.320 recognition they got a 500 million dollar contract with the federal government recently teal's money
00:15:41.640 put vance in the senate now sance is being tapped for vp and what's interesting and this is what i kind
00:15:47.980 of got at earlier today you know for a long time you had like neocards the neoconservatives they said
00:15:54.980 there's a civilizational war between christianity and islam and israel's at the front of it and that's
00:16:01.100 why we need to go to iraq and make a democracy and we're going to plant the seed and it's going to
00:16:04.980 spread all over and blah blah blah people stop believing in that they said that's nation building
00:16:09.940 myth we can't build nations you can't go and make a democracy in iraq because they don't have a
00:16:15.100 tradition of liberalism you know and their their religion doesn't isn't really compatible as you
00:16:19.300 know islam's and it's a good thing it's not a liberal religion um so that fell out of favor the
00:16:24.320 neocons fell out of favor and so for a long time they were just kind of pushing this well israel's
00:16:29.460 our closest ally and all it took was somebody like me to get up and say okay well why you know why are
00:16:35.100 their closest ally and they fold it immediately because they're like we don't even know you know like
00:16:40.840 because that was it i mean you know years ago we would go to charlie kirk and say hey charlie like
00:16:45.940 why are they the closest ally they didn't know i mean they said it but they didn't know and what
00:16:50.660 i've noticed and if you pay attention you'll see it too they're now creating like a new justification
00:16:56.940 for it in light of the groipers because the groipers have become very popular among the young people
00:17:01.540 and so in the past five years they've come up with these new ideas so like vance was at the
00:17:07.280 quincy institute a few weeks ago it's an anti-war non-profit and so these guys don't actually support
00:17:14.120 israel but vance goes there and says well i'm going to make the case for why we should support
00:17:19.020 israel and he had all these new reasons and so he said for example well we need to support israel
00:17:24.320 because they're innovators in missile defense that's the big thing now in ukraine so being pro-war
00:17:30.180 yeah right it's it's all about defense contractors like his boss peter teal he said the second thing is
00:17:36.460 well israel protects the christian holy land that's the new one they're doing like vance posted a
00:17:42.260 picture of himself kissing the wall and he said i'm walking in christ's footsteps i'm like did christ
00:17:47.560 kiss the wall i must have missed that yeah yeah right i'm like i somehow i don't think christ supports
00:17:52.760 israel uh but that's like they're like killing kids yeah yeah or like spitting on his own followers
00:17:59.020 or like bombing his own churches like these uh evangelical christians that they're zionist
00:18:03.760 christians they get spit on out there and they're still zionist it makes no sense yeah well it's funny
00:18:08.320 i met one from turning point it's young girl years ago i went to this thing with bryce and gray and
00:18:13.320 there were a couple of girls who went to like my old high school and i recognized them i was like oh hey
00:18:18.440 yeah you're getting a lot of attention from being in turning point blah blah blah and i said yeah you
00:18:22.680 got to drop this turning point stuff israel is not our ally and they're going oh we just got
00:18:27.180 that from israel i'm like yeah they hate christians there i swear my right hand to god i swear she
00:18:31.900 goes yeah now that you mentioned that they kind of like hated us there they were like spitting on us
00:18:37.020 when you see destiny getting like he's over there destiny's not even christian he's in israel right
00:18:40.780 now my bad for bringing him up no yeah everywhere you go and then he's like he's he thinks that these
00:18:45.480 are his people he's driving his car and they're like shouting him out in hebrew like he's like i don't
00:18:51.600 know i don't know what you're saying i don't know like the guy's literally pointing at his face
00:18:55.100 calling him the son of a whore yeah like you would think that even him of all people who's like
00:19:00.000 he's servicing these people now this ideology even they're like this fucking faggot whore like
00:19:04.240 yeah get out of our country yeah my bad when i went there though as i saw it i was treated good
00:19:11.020 because i was like with people that are high up but i could see when i was in jerusalem how they're
00:19:14.240 treating other people like not good those guys machine guns the muslims are pushed to a corner
00:19:18.020 the christians they're treated that good it was like they try to take you around and show me all the
00:19:22.600 positive things yeah it's still i'm not stupid i can still see things yeah they're putting on a
00:19:28.200 show and anyway but so vance is pushing this new thing of like oh we support israel because we're
00:19:32.920 like christian charlie kirk does the same thing now he recently got asked at one of the q a things
00:19:37.920 i think it was some girl came up and said um you know why do you support israel so much and he said
00:19:43.500 well because it's a christian holy land and now they're trying to steer christian nationalist thing
00:19:48.800 into a way to support israel and vance has echoed a lot of those same sentiments so um yeah i think
00:19:57.200 some some people are i think they find it more plausible than the other stuff i think years ago
00:20:03.160 we totally dominated because they just had no convincing answer and now that ironically now that
00:20:10.200 another aspect of our rhetoric is winning which is that christ is king in this christian country
00:20:15.200 they're kind of leveraging one aspect of what we support into supporting israel and saying oh
00:20:20.460 and it doesn't really make sense but i think that's probably more compelling than what they
00:20:24.320 were saying before the pro-war stuff is that it is that the only two arguments that jd guns has yeah he
00:20:28.940 said he said it's missile defense it's christians and then the other thing it was really funny because
00:20:35.260 if you read the transcripts he says something like you know we're partnering with the arab countries to do
00:20:40.520 the abraham accords expand that to saudi arabia he goes and this presents really great opportunities
00:20:46.960 financially militarily for israel he goes and also for the united states of course but there's literally
00:20:54.280 literally like he forgot people watching these politicians they're not seeing it they're crazy
00:20:59.760 they're pushing israel first and unfortunately including trump is we were both trump supporters and
00:21:04.160 you know i might vote for him but i'm kind of on the fence right now and it's uh
00:21:07.180 it's obviously i think he's better than biden still but can't we just throw a vote to a guy
00:21:11.020 who's saying we need to do more for israel than biden's doing it's a tough situation that i'm
00:21:15.020 thinking about but it's just you know i would love to have a private conversation with him it's not an
00:21:18.660 easy thing to do is trump coming to turning point yeah he'll be here tomorrow okay what do you think
00:21:23.900 uh he's going to be trying to push here you know he's going to be doing a stump speech i mean like
00:21:29.720 the sad thing about trump is i don't think he's really pushing anything i think that
00:21:34.260 you know and this is sort of i love i want to preface it by saying i love trump he's a good guy
00:21:39.340 like you know i think he's a legend but this is not the same animal as 2016 if you go back in 2016 he
00:21:45.580 was really sharp and like really quick you'd watch his interviews and he found a way to control the
00:21:52.460 frame every time people forget he went into stephen colbert's show stephen colbert is like the arch
00:21:58.380 liberal and he's a pretty smart guy you know he went to northwestern i know what you mean he's like you
00:22:02.920 know he's a fucking idiot liberal but i mean he's an intelligent guy and uh but trump went in there
00:22:08.720 that's like a good example of extremely hostile interviewer and hostile territory but he used to
00:22:14.540 go on to cnn and colbert and the late shows and he would decimate these guys he would control the
00:22:20.220 frame he was just really like a masterful kind of like i don't know you would call that but
00:22:25.940 the rhetorician maybe you look at him now it's bad like i don't know if you saw the logan fall
00:22:32.160 interview it's become more normie and social media like what do you think of the downside is too low
00:22:36.900 energy what was just like out to lunch i mean he's like not answering the questions he just repeats
00:22:41.860 himself it's very monotonous and slow low energy it's nothing new even like the dr phil interview is a
00:22:50.000 total jerk off you know dr phil basically said tell me how great you are you know why aren't you
00:22:54.700 running unopposed why are you so fucking awesome and it was just like around and around biden's
00:23:01.600 the worst president ever you know we closed down the greatest economy you've heard all the greatest
00:23:06.140 hits and so it's hard to be new and refreshing and exciting when you've been in the game for eight
00:23:10.400 years not really i mean you know the thing is that might be a plausible excuse for him but like
00:23:17.040 thomas massey on the tucker interview was really exciting and interesting and radical and america first
00:23:23.660 and i watched that and he's not even good he's like a libertarian i don't even agree with him on
00:23:27.880 most things but i was amazing yeah but i watched the interview i'm like this is a brilliant interesting
00:23:32.240 fresh guy then i watched trump and i'm like yeah i don't really see the appeal he's saying how much
00:23:38.140 he wants more legal immigration we're going to support israel we're going to cut the corporate tax
00:23:44.020 rate he's with a bunch of donors uh this is the new york times he says he's going to cut the corporate
00:23:48.400 tax rate to 20 and it's like so let me get this straight the big winners of trump too are going
00:23:53.920 to be the corporations to get the tax cut because the tax cut that he passed expires in 25 which is
00:23:59.720 when exactly exactly and you know make the tax cut contingent say to the corporations if you buy
00:24:08.980 and hire american then we cut your taxes not we're going to cut your taxes and you ship the job from
00:24:13.880 china to mexico which is what they're doing they call it friend shoring which means they're going
00:24:18.020 to move and they're i mean a lot of the products are still going through china anyway but you know
00:24:22.580 it's the corporations are going to be the big winners israel is going to be the big winner it's
00:24:27.540 going to be immigrants where they say he said on dr phil we desperately need legal immigration
00:24:33.020 in the new york times he said we're going to staple green cards to diplomas of foreign students
00:24:37.480 so what the fuck about us you know immigrants corporations in israel those are the winners the
00:24:42.880 first time those are going to be the winners the second time so people just need a reality check
00:24:47.400 i love trump um no one can critique my credentials on that i've been a loyalist for years we have to
00:24:53.140 be very honest about what we're getting here and it's not it's not america first yeah i mean it's
00:24:57.420 hard to criticize trump but i'm glad you're doing it it's something i started doing a few months ago
00:25:00.980 and i just think it's we can't give a free pass i still might vote for him but he can't he doesn't
00:25:04.520 just automatically guarantee deserve our vote when he's not if that's what i said what he's running on
00:25:08.660 what is he offering america exactly don't you think the the make america greater movement is
00:25:13.580 almost bigger than trump itself it's like his supporters are all anti-vax and he was one of
00:25:18.560 the biggest proponents of showing the vaccine it's like i was i've been realizing that the
00:25:22.540 magnet movement is like people who love america that's why you still say you love trump that's
00:25:26.060 why i love trump like i disagree like designism issue is like one of the really glaring flaw and
00:25:30.740 most of his supporters that treat him like a messiah you literally think he's a god yeah they pray to
00:25:35.500 trump and they are all brainwashed about israel because trump's brainwashed about israel but
00:25:40.040 even then his movement which is gonna i think you're probably going to carry the torch and it's
00:25:44.140 probably going to continue even after he you know whatever happens in this election if he goes to jail
00:25:48.200 or whatever that movement is going to continue because you can tell he actually loves his country
00:25:51.900 unlike the other candidates so even though we may disagree on a lot of things it's important to
00:25:56.400 focus on the fact that we want to put america first which is why he gained so much support in the
00:26:00.740 first place in 2015 yeah i would say he's putting too much uh special interest first at the moment
00:26:05.600 though like he's not actually i think he does love the country but i think maybe he needs the money or
00:26:10.160 he's scared of legal cases he's just not offering anything new for the american people i still think
00:26:14.360 he's better than biden don't get me wrong but he's just like what is he offering american people
00:26:18.160 right now not much i can't like when you ask that question nothing comes to mind i hate to have
00:26:23.540 these talks too because you know i've been a big trump's i mean i lost a little respect during the
00:26:27.080 covid lockdowns i was strongly against the first two weeks even i know i know it was popular and
00:26:31.440 kind of had to but that's when i first started questioning him and it's unfortunate and i hope
00:26:35.940 he like you know gives a little bit but right now i'm not that happy with him yeah well and you know
00:26:40.100 there's something interesting going on it's like have you noticed that the media they're not pro-trump
00:26:46.040 but they don't even seem to be phased about the prospect that he'll be president that's an excellent
00:26:51.420 i think i saw you say that yeah wow they're not bashing it used to be that's the tell but why
00:26:56.000 why aren't they bashing like they used to that should really make you think they don't care
00:26:58.720 anymore they don't fear him anymore because they know they know that it's not going to be that bad
00:27:02.640 in 16 and i i said this to a buddy of mine in 16 it really was like a terrifying phenomenon trump and
00:27:11.440 i say this even as a supporter and i don't mean terrifying so much in a negative way but
00:27:15.720 he had this like this x factor like this unstoppable momentum it felt like we were really dealing with
00:27:22.160 like this raw force like even we it's almost like frankenstein's monster like i don't even know if
00:27:27.040 we could control this or stop it if we wanted to and that's because he you know there was something
00:27:31.740 very unique he said i personally am going to control the executive branch because we all know
00:27:37.840 the president isn't really in charge everybody knows that and trump said no i am going to be in
00:27:43.300 charge i am going to use this office he said in the first speech i'm going to literally take this
00:27:47.800 country and make it great again and you know you look at some of the rhetoric and the
00:27:52.520 some of the propaganda that came out there was like that famous video of like trump in a mech suit
00:27:57.620 like blowing up planned earth it was like this dreadful phenomenon but dreadful in a good way
00:28:03.580 it's like yo yeah it's not there anymore this proud and terrible king like going for the earth
00:28:08.980 my whole high school was crying i went to a little border same yeah they had their brother's
00:28:12.980 therapy dogs it was it was great they canceled class laughing like i remember he did um he was
00:28:18.760 doing a rally i think he was like in uh san jose or something they blocked the traffic he just gets
00:28:23.040 out of his thing and starts walking across the street it was he was just so bad yeah i remember that
00:28:26.840 yeah yeah he just walked there with a secret secure so that they're blocking him he's just like he was
00:28:30.460 unstoppable at that moment i'm like that's when i saw him like this guy's gonna win when i saw that
00:28:33.960 he was like the death star yeah i couldn't believe he got out and started walking by any way i'm like
00:28:38.040 this guy's gonna win he is so determined that's when i kind of first started slowly
00:28:41.620 falling politics like this is just fun yeah it's not fun anymore well and and now i mean in the
00:28:46.880 media back then they were legitimately terrified they're like trump is going to turn this into a
00:28:52.100 dictatorship he's going to deport all the illegals now they don't give a shit now the thing that
00:28:56.240 they care about is project 2025 which is the heritage foundations thing where they're going to
00:29:00.700 recruit like radical young right-wing people to fill up the administration and the reason they're
00:29:05.740 after project 2025 is because they know like i do and like everybody does that trump getting in
00:29:11.600 almost doesn't even matter what matters is who he's going to hire because the people he hires
00:29:16.540 they are going to make a difference and if trump hires lindsey graham and nikki haley and tim scott
00:29:22.260 they know they got nothing to worry about but if trump hires a bunch of radical young white guys who
00:29:27.500 are going to like deliver the revolution that's the thing they're concerned about and that's the
00:29:31.980 thing they're talking about lindsey graham was the one uh kissing the wall and she was writing names
00:29:35.860 on the missiles yeah oh that's nick haley oh yeah he's a gay guy okay he's a man from south carolina
00:29:42.880 but he i think he did the same thing he said he might have been like too he's awful he's a major
00:29:49.060 major war hungry particularly just open all wars he's pushed every single war you've done he's
00:29:53.560 constantly wants to go to war he's one of the worst politicians so what else can we expect from
00:29:57.880 turning point is there anything is there anything like is there any reason that people are here
00:30:02.300 yeah i think that well one they're paying people to be here that's they're like paying they fly
00:30:07.820 people out here they put them up in a hotel and you know turning point is the number one campus group
00:30:12.500 in the country they do have the most chapters so people come here to network they come to drink
00:30:16.680 they come to socialize but the the triumph of america first is that even though i'm not in
00:30:22.140 my ideas are right you know because i walk in and everybody greets me like wow that's the
00:30:27.220 point is yeah it's the elephant in the room it's clear yeah like everyone when i was walking around
00:30:32.080 inside uh turning point they're all like it was all goipers like coming up to me i would say it was
00:30:36.440 like 50 actually i forgot that that wasn't your event i swear to god why he was like 50 uh goipers
00:30:43.740 in there yeah so they can remove me but they can't remove the influence and the thing is like at the end
00:30:49.680 of the day like i'm a guy who's actually pushing a compelling inspirational idea like they're not
00:30:56.460 nobody is like a charlie kirk fan charlie kirk doesn't have fans that are like socialism sucks
00:31:03.180 like no one's doing that because socialism isn't the problem you know and like capitalism isn't the
00:31:08.820 rallying cry and now that he's kind of like adopted half-heartedly some of our rhetoric people can see
00:31:15.980 that for the cynical play that it is you know he goes where the wind is taking some of your like
00:31:20.260 before they're pushing like that remember that gay dude with a guitar like yes yes now they're like
00:31:24.480 pushing like that stuff like trannies for a minute it was like that's not conservative
00:31:28.040 right it's like come on yeah so they they came my way a little bit and um they're gonna have to keep
00:31:33.640 pushing that way i think they realize it like i said private talk with one of those guys i think
00:31:36.760 they're scared yeah i can see it they're like that's why they didn't want you in there totally
00:31:40.940 well that's why you know canis owens did her thing and they're chanting christ is king
00:31:44.380 and it's like we you know we've been chanting christ is king in my thing for years so they're like
00:31:49.160 well now we want to do a christ is king chan and um so they see the energy is with us has been with
00:31:55.000 us for years and now they want a little piece of that so they're trying to incorporate as much as
00:31:59.620 possible without upsetting the donors that put up the money but they but that will never work
00:32:04.440 because you can't that's why america first is such a great slogan because you know two countries
00:32:09.700 can't occupy that slot it's either israel or america and they're israel first so it's a good
00:32:15.800 turnout for so far there's a lot of people here i met uh dr lupus yeah i know lucas gage has been
00:32:21.660 so excited about coming where he's been he's been hyped up about this like it's coachella for like
00:32:25.820 oh yeah he's been not stop tweeting who else is here uh so we're gonna say he's probably planning
00:32:31.300 tomorrow we'll see uh it's maybe you know i was pretty uncertain about i was just in minneapolis
00:32:36.080 yesterday i thought you know what i thought you weren't coming to keep up like late last night
00:32:40.740 yeah i was like let me just grow a pair and show up here might as well yeah i appreciate it
00:32:44.700 yeah of course man i think it's an important movement to bring people together and make
00:32:48.220 alliances and uh you know some people when people will like try to buy it well you just describe
00:32:52.860 nick over that and i'm like it's the smallest thing i'm worried about we agree on the big stuff
00:32:56.220 we have small stuff we can have private conversations about that we think we both want to make america
00:33:00.200 a better place i don't care if it's a small thing we have to scream it on absolutely it's like
00:33:03.660 every all of anti-israel twitter's here it's like all the all the main people is there uh do you have
00:33:10.340 any big announcements or any uh surprise to us like what can we expect at afpac tomorrow uh well
00:33:16.180 there'll be some surprises but uh i don't i don't want to spoil any of that you got to kind of just
00:33:20.900 wait and see but um yeah i mean we've it's our biggest event yet we've sold more tickets than ever
00:33:25.800 by a lot and um so it's going to be pretty exciting but you know the thing is about afpac is it's such a
00:33:33.500 special thing because it's the only place where you're going to get america first i mean it's in our name
00:33:37.980 and it's so shocking because you know people look at me like i'm just one guy well maybe some people
00:33:44.660 do but like i'm a guy among other guys with with an opinion but what's unique about me and about this
00:33:50.020 movement is we're literally it's a this is a big country we're the only one saying this on the right
00:33:55.680 or the left that's wild that's true right because you you would think this is a country 330 million
00:34:00.780 people there's billions of dollars in politics thousands of people are trying to make it in
00:34:06.100 politics there's like one conference where you're allowed to say fuck israel literally one
00:34:12.720 and it's this one yeah the hard part is all the money is on the other side yeah unfortunately it's
00:34:17.980 stuck between us having to sit there and organize how to figure this out we don't have money paying
00:34:21.540 us no one's paying us to do this we're not making any money doing this it's a lot way more likely to
00:34:25.900 cost us money it's probably costing millions of dollars yeah you know you probably probably could
00:34:29.840 have been a big you could have been oh pro israel will be one of the biggest commentators right
00:34:32.980 now but it's like we're taking sacrifices because it's really the only way to fix the country
00:34:36.740 absolutely but it doesn't work having that sort of fun and doesn't like when you walk around
00:34:40.300 turning point the flashy lights and the tv screens and the curvy stadium or whatever it's just like
00:34:47.080 this is just beyond like i saw the veck there and i think he avoided us because maybe he didn't want to
00:34:51.220 like you but he was right there like immediately like when he saw us he just like
00:34:58.540 but it's just like it doesn't make sense for him it's just gonna he's there's more to lose and to
00:35:07.120 gain from speaking to guys like us but that's where the energy is so it's also like you said more to
00:35:11.600 lose but it's changing like you said you might still be a little bit toxic and ostracized but it's not
00:35:15.860 like it was you know yeah it's definitely i'm sure you felt a big change right like in the last like
00:35:20.000 six months because you were completely ostracized it was crazy you were probably the most ostracized
00:35:24.600 person in the country yeah i think i still am but just less than i was before yeah it um yeah it's
00:35:31.360 getting better i think that you know what's funny about these things is for the longest time because
00:35:37.120 of the way because of like the current sensibility it feels like things could never change if you know
00:35:42.360 you wake up in seven years ago and you're like i know the truth but it's never going to change this
00:35:48.360 is how it is this is how it's always going to be but if you think that it's a self-fulfilling prophecy
00:35:53.720 so somebody has to take that first step and say no it's not going to be this way and it takes time
00:36:00.620 but over time people start to say it and then before you know it you wake up and you're in a
00:36:05.680 different country and you change the rules thank you for doing that by the way because i mean you did
00:36:09.060 it before a lot of people see it you put a lot in line so thank you it's all going to pay off
00:36:12.460 i appreciate that well thank you guys i mean you guys are not even political i'm a political guy
00:36:17.760 you know but you're a fighter you're a streamer and like you know so people underestimate the
00:36:23.180 people have no idea as you know the sacrifices you guys made to do this nobody knows the hardship
00:36:28.560 you go through when you say stuff like this like what a fucking nightmare it is when you go out
00:36:34.480 on a limb against israel it's like opportunities disappear like that yeah and no one ever says
00:36:39.440 oh i mean some people do but you know the vast majority of people never know the sacrifice you
00:36:45.220 make or you make for saying this stuff because you know i mean you can say it but people just never
00:36:50.560 understand this stream specifically even like a midstream where you're in the hotel room i just got
00:36:55.940 reinstated on twitch after two years and i read like they're saying don't do it you know change the
00:37:00.000 but it's just this is the most important conversation we can have so hopefully they'll
00:37:04.140 take it away you know it's nice to have one platform back but if they do then they do it was
00:37:08.460 all supposed to happen yeah but i saw you disavow some people recently um you really posted a video
00:37:14.560 waving goodbye to a former lawyer laura loomer yeah can you tell me a little bit about that what
00:37:19.100 happened well you know i love laura loomer i mean we're friends i know we strongly disagree as
00:37:25.960 we've been fighting on twitter for like weeks now uh but i've known her for a long time and i i admire
00:37:32.640 a lot of qualities about her but you know she came out to attack me because i was against well not
00:37:38.500 against but because i said i'm rethinking my support for trump and she came out swinging and said
00:37:44.140 you know you can't tell your followers not to vote for trump you're like and she's trying to brand
00:37:48.520 me as like an anti-trump guy and you know it's it's a it's kind of a difficult thing because
00:37:55.320 i noticed people want me to be anti-trump people want me to say oh f trump blah blah blah the new
00:38:01.480 york post called me some jewish journalist and he's like oh you said you prefer biden on palestine
00:38:07.120 and he was like coaxing me to get to say i'm gonna go for biden so the headline could be oh the neo-nazi
00:38:12.920 nick fuentes supports biden and all these you know fag republicans can have their oh look the racists
00:38:18.660 are over there we're the party of mlk and what you know lincoln that's their you know a thing uh but i
00:38:24.540 said no i'm not going to give you that headline i love trump trump is america first he created me
00:38:29.040 in a sense i will never disavow trump so you know but i but i am as someone with credibility in the
00:38:35.280 trump movement saying hey we got to rethink it and so loomer came out swinging i think because
00:38:40.880 you know she kind of has an axe to grind against me because i've been so critical of israel and i
00:38:45.680 don't think she wants to hit me on that so she hits me on the trump thing and she wants a job with
00:38:49.920 trump she thinks trump's going to make her press secretary i love her i don't think it's going
00:38:54.020 to happen yeah it's true history if you're going to think about uh somebody with that much power
00:38:57.600 somebody's that vocal on twitter like getting in that many battles like why would you it's not a
00:39:02.360 good idea well and they trump never rewards his loyalists that's the sad thing is loomer is like
00:39:08.100 attacking me to get a job with trump and trump you know i love trump but trump lets these other
00:39:13.760 people do the hiring and hiring it's racing with the swamp guys they might compare compare or whatever
00:39:17.680 he doesn't he doesn't pick the best people unfortunately yeah so laura loomer is going
00:39:21.640 to be left high and dry that's my prediction at least trump should hire the loyalists right yeah he i
00:39:26.060 mean if if i'm trump i'm giving laura loomer a job but he won't she's she might not be the best
00:39:31.220 but she's extremely loyal exactly you know she's well i think she is the best who would be a better
00:39:35.540 a press secretary she's like a bulldog like she's attacked me too which is unfortunately that's a
00:39:41.200 private conversation she tweeted the fbi about what she said she attacked me publicly but i guess it
00:39:47.600 shows loyal to him why do you get attacked uh same thing some people critical of trump and i've never
00:39:52.780 disavowed trump i've never said i'm voting for him but it's just like see he's a traitor blah blah
00:39:56.300 like trying to turn people against me like i'm not just gonna sit there and bow like
00:39:59.320 not my loyalty to trump he needs to earn it and i like trump way better than fight but it doesn't
00:40:04.100 mean i mean if i don't vote maybe i'll skip voting yeah same yeah i don't know how to choose
00:40:08.160 tweet at the fbi saying i'm a jihadist and like a terrorist and all this stuff it's just i found it
00:40:13.480 kind of silly but yeah so do you what was the slogan of day 24 when you find out who the lawyers is
00:40:18.860 then you know the loyalist when you don't know where your lawyers is you still have your loyalist
00:40:23.840 right yeah and it's true i mean he said that about me because i i told him about my experience
00:40:28.980 with trump and that's what i said even at the dinner you know there's the famous dinner where
00:40:33.600 we all went me and yay we're at mar-a-lago with trump and people say you know what did you guys
00:40:38.240 talk about and i told trump and he knows if he ever i don't think he'll ever see this but
00:40:42.880 for people that are interested i told trump because i was telling yay i was like these are things i don't
00:40:48.700 like about trump and these are the things you got to hit him on in the debate because that's what we
00:40:52.200 wanted him to do uh if he got on the debate stage in the primary and uh so we're at the dinner and
00:40:57.640 it was a big love fest you know me and yay are like oh we love you you know you're the best whatever
00:41:01.380 and yeah we were glazing trump and yay because you know but i will because i love him but yay was
00:41:07.900 like all right now tell him some of that other stuff you were telling me about the other day and i was
00:41:12.080 like dude do not do not make me like you know criticize trump and trump is like no come on don't
00:41:19.420 be bashful what is it you know tell me what it is and i said well i said listen i said i'm really in
00:41:23.660 no position to criticize like you're the guy you've been through so much you're just you're like my
00:41:27.560 hero i have nothing to say but thanks i said bye i said i've been following you forever i said and i
00:41:33.980 want you to know like we're here for you we follow you not the republicans not uh kevin
00:41:40.780 mccarthy not ron mcdaniel we're here for you i said and in 2015 at the first debate they had all
00:41:47.960 the candidates on the stage and they said raise your hand if you are unwilling to support the
00:41:54.000 eventual nominee and trump raised his hand nobody else did no one else did and they said well if you
00:42:00.200 don't support the republican nominee surely clinton will get elected and you know you're okay with that
00:42:06.000 and trump said well i have a lot of leverage here i said so i'd like to run as the republican but
00:42:10.660 if i don't i've leveraged and i'm working with and i told trump i said i love that moment because
00:42:15.920 it showed you're willing to let the republicans lose and that showed you're serious because the
00:42:22.360 way that they trap us is by saying you have to vote for the republican because if you don't the
00:42:28.040 democrats are going to win it's like so you're telling me i can never not vote republican no matter
00:42:33.080 how shitty they are no matter how america lasts if it's john mccain mit ron me trump i always have to
00:42:38.560 vote because democrats are always going to run and they're always going to be worse than the
00:42:41.440 republican so you're telling me i'm signed i the republican party owns me forever and i said that's
00:42:47.180 the difference you were serious about taking over the party when you did that he would not do something
00:42:52.320 like that today he endorsed larry hogan in maryland for senate larry hogan's been an anti-trumper for 10
00:42:58.140 years jd vance too right yeah well jd vance came around but yeah he was a never-trumper and
00:43:03.920 hogan rejected the endorsement so trump said even though you went against me in 2016 and in 2020 i
00:43:11.800 endorse you and larry hogan said thanks but no thanks i don't want your endorsement that just
00:43:15.660 goes to show this is not the same guy and so you know but that that was that's what i told them then
00:43:21.480 which is a good answer because it was criticizing while also showing something really positive that
00:43:25.360 was a good chance move in your part and uh i remember that moment and that was a moment where
00:43:29.800 the maga movement became bigger than the republican party which nobody ever had the balls to do
00:43:33.780 it was always before in the bush and obama era it was like people go into the voting the voting booth
00:43:38.400 and they would just put all blue or all red and then trump came along and said well let me go
00:43:42.000 all of this is is messed up from top to bottom so let me create a movement that's bigger than that
00:43:46.320 and that's what's going to continue that's like a pivotal moment that changed american politics forever
00:43:50.460 it did yeah well and that's why i'm forever grateful because i framed it like this on twitter which i
00:43:56.280 think was a good rhetorical innovation i said you know trump made america first mainstream because
00:44:03.580 that had been around 100 years ago and he brought that back and it was very controversial actually
00:44:08.020 when he said america first people came out and said that's a ku klux klan slogan literally which is
00:44:12.380 total horse shit but that's what they said and um and when he said america first when i was 18 i heard
00:44:19.140 it and i said israel doesn't fit into this equation and that set me on the path that i'm on now
00:44:24.920 and it's kind of this idea that you know the political constraints are as such now where maybe
00:44:30.800 trump could never win without supporting israel but that won't be the case 10 years down the line
00:44:35.780 or 20 years down the line so the way that i see it is it's like trump started it he can't finish it
00:44:42.440 but we the young generation we have to fulfill like the promise of america first he can't take it into
00:44:49.920 the end zone we have to kind of take the ball from him as the as the succession and we need to bring
00:44:54.840 it into the end zone over the course of generations yeah that's a perfect analogy what about uh have you
00:45:00.680 seen daniel bazarian uh come pretty public which is one of jake shield's good friends i've met him a
00:45:05.100 couple of times uh i think yeah i ended up having them oh you guys know what was that really good
00:45:09.520 to go public now i don't know i think i'd probably find to well yeah i mean uh yeah we follow each
00:45:15.020 other on twitter and we've you know uh i think maybe he's been seeing some of my stuff i've been
00:45:19.860 replying to him and everything and um as far as you know how much we've talked that's up for him to
00:45:25.080 you know if he wants to share that but um yeah but it's it's really impressive because
00:45:29.940 like you and like you this is a guy with a huge profile a lot of money to lose and he already
00:45:35.240 has yeah but he put integrity first he came out swinging board and i thought i gave a little
00:45:39.980 nudge to say like something and it was boom i'm like uh dan um and it ain't going that hard
00:45:45.260 he called me he goes hey should i treat this i'm like you're not calling the wrong person don't ask
00:45:50.820 me i'm gonna tell you yes to anything you say right yeah it's it's incredible i mean and you know
00:45:57.400 but it should really put these political people to shame that's what that's my right not to be
00:46:02.040 negative i mean dan bilzerian like to me that just shows he's such a real guy i think people think
00:46:07.760 he's somebody's different but if you meet him he realizes he's not the guy you thought he was and
00:46:11.220 he's even like to now it's not necessarily down now it's been the old way of living wasn't the way
00:46:15.080 to live right now he's learned you know a guy who dated 10 models at once being like you know i
00:46:20.220 prefer having a girlfriend living normal and he's at a point where he truly cares about his country
00:46:24.740 he wants change you know he's trying to figure out how that's why i think it's uh you know that's
00:46:29.080 why i wanted you to talk to him i think he's the guy who somehow could be extremely valuable
00:46:32.120 you know i think he's at first like oh i don't think i'm going to be involved but then you see
00:46:35.620 he just comes out swinging and he's someone that might even go into politics people don't realize
00:46:39.140 like how bright and sharp he is but i think some people see him on the space and like oh this
00:46:43.020 guy's actually smart he's sharp well yeah he did a really good job against uh trump jr
00:46:47.040 that was good yeah that was awesome well and he's i think he's even been on some of the uh
00:46:52.560 he's on pierce morgan he's been on some of the talk shows and he's very sharp and
00:46:56.100 you know people want it's interesting where is the right-wing politics coming from it's actually
00:47:02.420 coming from a somewhat unexpected source it's coming from fighters it's coming from the red pill
00:47:09.140 community like pickup artists and dating coaches it's coming from dan bilzerian who's like former
00:47:14.060 military law enforcement right gambler and you know he's in that dating world too it's coming from
00:47:21.780 it's really bifurcating along a gender line where it's all coming from a masculine place like trump
00:47:28.640 where does trump get the big crowd and it's you know some people might say well sporting event well
00:47:34.260 not just any sporting event he doesn't go out at the super bowl where you got you know taylor swift's
00:47:39.200 boyfriend he goes out at the ufc at the fights he's been to a bunch of them now yeah and he goes in
00:47:44.540 there like a gangster with the entourage the music and data it's like he's going into the octodont
00:47:49.900 he's like al capone he's like a fucking gangster he goes out there and the crowd goes nuts and it's
00:47:55.500 it's this intense masculine and like and you know you're a fighter it's no bullshit in the in the ring
00:48:02.280 exactly that's why most fighters are conservative exactly because none of this fake stuff none of this
00:48:08.180 that that's like maybe the last place another angle it's like where it's really actually
00:48:12.740 it's like real humanity it's like real life we live in these cities and everything's kind of fake
00:48:17.880 you know it's like air conditioning and you know people well i would say it this way no one's in
00:48:23.260 danger well i shouldn't in the cities you're in danger but i mean you know what i mean like you go
00:48:27.120 to like a shopping mall and you just kind of like hanging life for your average modern person is like
00:48:32.080 hey what's for dinner tonight that's like the big question when you're in a fight it's like a killer
00:48:35.900 could kill it's like an animal instinct thing that's where the reactionary politics that's
00:48:40.660 where the right-wing politics is coming from so it's kind of an interesting thing like who are the
00:48:45.020 people that are coming out with the truth it's not like conservatives like patrick denean and these
00:48:50.260 other you know sora bamari and from yale it's real ass niggas real ass niggas hard ass niggas
00:48:55.600 going hard as fuck my nigga my nigga
00:48:57.700 that's a good point but what do you think that the correlation can you explain more about the
00:49:08.360 that masculine and correlation with politics because i've seen a lot of fighters are speaking
00:49:14.240 up about israel like you're i think you're leading the charge 100 but that i spoke to martin vittori
00:49:18.860 the other day and like i saw his tweets and he was really public about being anti netanyahu
00:49:23.080 uh what do you think that correlation is because i haven't uh heard about that i think this has the
00:49:28.000 whole fight so real so we speak our mind more i'm not like sure about the israel thing but i think
00:49:32.260 for obviously for the lockdowns and the vaccines fighters are like oh this shit's ridiculous there
00:49:36.820 was actually never really all uh all this infighting until recently it got forced on us black lives
00:49:41.440 matter was really interesting because all these other sports were kneeling going going down there's
00:49:45.320 tons of black fighters but i think only one guy went and did that and nothing against i'm not
00:49:48.840 gonna knock it for it i'm not gonna you can do what you want but it was so nice so refreshing
00:49:53.240 that the white door and do black lives matter dana wasn't trying to force it in anyone
00:49:56.420 for one second they tried to put the gay stuff on there but that went away and we don't want to
00:50:00.580 wear the gay stuff on the shorts so it's uh i think you just it's such a real tough sport it makes
00:50:05.340 you think differently so i guess well and it's just like because they're all like like the most
00:50:10.960 masculine men like the highest testosterone most competitive most violent men they have a completely
00:50:17.340 different personality type than other people such a feminine society and when you think about how
00:50:22.480 people are controlled specifically with political correctness it's all about shame and conformity
00:50:27.560 it's always about saying oh you're a bad person and you won't be accepted in polite society like
00:50:33.400 you'll be ostracized and feminine people who are high in agreeableness who want to get along and they
00:50:38.760 just want to make peace and they just want to put everybody together they're like oh okay okay okay you
00:50:43.200 know we don't want to offend we don't want to hurt anybody's feelings exactly but fighters say i don't
00:50:48.960 give a shit you can't control me oh you think you know i'll fuck you up you can't control me exactly
00:50:54.700 yeah so that's why it's kanye that's why it's you as you it's you know it's even someone like me
00:50:58.980 people that aren't used to being controlled yeah exactly and that's what the system artist too
00:51:02.520 maybe he's not like fighter type style but he's like an artist independent thinker well and he's high
00:51:06.420 test and he's like he's got that streak where he's like i can't be managed i can't be controlled
00:51:10.660 and that is what the system fears the system you know not you know like the matrix or whatever you
00:51:16.780 want to call it they want men to be like these pussies that are like yes dear you know they listen
00:51:22.380 to their wives and they're just kind of like they hate the idea that there are going to be men
00:51:26.500 that have their own money that have balls or maybe even men that don't care about money
00:51:30.700 and don't care about women and men that are just like you know what like what i care about
00:51:34.920 it's like starface all i got is my word and my balls i don't break that for anybody
00:51:38.840 that's the kind of person that they're afraid of and i think they're trying to basically just
00:51:44.660 de-beak and neuter every male because if they didn't do that people would get up and say you
00:51:49.800 know what like our borders are open we're being forcibly vaccinated we're being forced to bow down
00:51:55.560 and obey this foreign country and go and fight and die for them and like ukraine and iran we're not
00:51:59.780 going to do that you know like and it's like you said even this is something yay said which surprised
00:52:05.300 me he said you know i'm 46 years old i'm a father you know i actually care about things like taxes
00:52:11.680 now i care about politics now because i have kids and so now it actually matters deeply to me and to
00:52:17.740 my family like how things are going and that's the profile of a person that they can't abide they want
00:52:23.440 everybody to just be complacent with you know vote red vote blue pay your taxes you know watch your
00:52:29.360 gay star wars watch the acolyte you know and put up with this the people that won't do it are
00:52:34.140 fighters yeah look like hollywood and tv like how much weak men they push weak dumb men like all the
00:52:39.020 shows one and dumb weak bad yeah they put like women superheroes kicking ass yeah right purposely
00:52:44.520 trying to push it to seem like it has to be 100 yeah and that like dude it's all star wars has been
00:52:51.280 totally ruined it's like all women now and i love star wars i know andrew tate would probably hate
00:52:55.740 that or whatever because he hates star wars great rant one of those tweets is going up on star wars
00:53:00.380 yeah i love star wars i love star wars but he but it was like the funniest tweet thread he put on that
00:53:04.740 yeah he's so funny but yeah but i mean i love star wars and every jedi now is like a fucking girl
00:53:10.600 every hero is a girl and you know when you really think about it men are not a lot i know it's like
00:53:17.740 such a basic take but it's like men are not allowed to be men who are like the big stars now
00:53:22.160 the big stars are like timothy chalamet and uh tom holland and in every movie they're either gay or
00:53:28.560 they're dating a black girl who's like a boss bitch and they all have that same personality where
00:53:32.320 they're like you ain't shit you know that's like dune 2 was two and a half hours of sandaya saying to
00:53:37.500 the fucking chosen challengers was the same you ain't shit i'm not shit niggas ain't shit and then the
00:53:41.860 two guys are like kissing and being gay over yeah exactly gay stuff on even like kids tv like i've seen
00:53:47.600 my friends came over there was like i don't know something i was like seven or eight there was like
00:53:50.360 kids kissing boys kissing yeah it's like ridiculous to put stuff on there and those are the two like
00:53:54.980 white actors when they want to bring in like an actual alpha male it's jason mamoa some like brown
00:54:01.200 guy it's the rock you know it's some brown guy so there's a racial aspect to it as well but i but
00:54:06.880 even a lot they emasculate a lot of black people too in them in dresses and stuff now too a lot right
00:54:11.220 yeah kid cunny and putting in like the one battle player is like a trans kid yeah like they're trying
00:54:15.800 doing with black men yeah yeah that's unfortunate i was with uh stew peters in minneapolis today
00:54:21.120 uh yesterday and we were doing street interviews and it was just really sad to see because like stew
00:54:25.900 was the example of like the 80s white dude who grew up watching like sylvester stallone and um die
00:54:32.380 hard with uh well you're from that era yeah that's where superheroes were like buff white dudes like
00:54:37.540 arnold schwarzenegger and so we're doing street interviews and stew's walking around there with like
00:54:42.020 that 80s mentality and then all the people that were interviewing were just like you ain't fun
00:54:46.460 job we're asking about george and then it was like one white dude and the only white dude was
00:54:50.720 like 19 years old and he had like the clout goggles on oh brother yeah hey how much you paying me for
00:54:55.800 this interview jim it's just like just and i look at i never really understood that sadness but i look
00:55:01.300 at his face he's looking at this guy with like so a sense of sadness because there's no white culture
00:55:06.180 yeah there's no white role models and so naturally they're just going to gravitate towards this
00:55:10.160 drug culture that's been sought by zionists uh to brainwash people to think that being a criminal
00:55:14.480 is cool yeah look gangstrap look who uh funded all that and uh well yeah there's just like no white
00:55:21.060 masculinity and even like i love don't get me wrong i think it's very positive that people are doing the
00:55:26.260 weight lifting and people are getting into fighting sports and everything but i also wonder because i'm
00:55:30.440 obviously not in the i'm not athletic so i'm not into that stuff actually yeah well you get me in the gym
00:55:35.400 one of these days yeah come on yeah we get trained yeah just don't put me with strickland if you put
00:55:40.820 me in a ring with strickland i'm gonna fucking explode i told him not to do it so yeah i mean
00:55:46.200 stico could take it if that guy hits me i'm just gonna like burst it's gonna be a red mist i want
00:55:50.820 you to meet strickland so bad yeah because he's speaking about america first and he's talking about
00:55:55.820 this issue and he's saying that we shouldn't go and say free palestine because america should say
00:56:00.220 he's anti-immigration but what's your your read on strickland well i think that um i don't know how
00:56:07.960 open he is to hearing other ideas but um i'm knowing a little bit about his backstory it seems
00:56:14.860 like that might make him apprehensive about embracing something more radical because you
00:56:18.760 know his father was like a neo-nazi or something he was a neo-nazi yeah so i strickland himself was
00:56:23.320 yeah yeah but i'm so i but because his father and then he kind of left that behind when he said he
00:56:27.700 went to a gym and he met like black people or whatever um so i think because of his own past
00:56:31.920 he might be reluctant to embrace something more radical i think for people that have an aversion to
00:56:37.300 like white identity libertarianism is more attractive to them so he gets into this like
00:56:41.800 oh i'm just for like liberty or whatever as opposed to the idea that the world is full of different
00:56:46.900 races different races religions different types of people um so that's kind of my read on him but
00:56:52.700 i'd be i don't know how open he'd be i think he'd be brought along i know i know him i haven't
00:56:56.820 personally had a deep conversation about any of that stuff i know originally he was definitely
00:57:00.080 pro-israel i think he shifted a little bit i would love to sit there and have like you know a good
00:57:04.080 hour i'm always in the gym with him so it's where it's hard where you can't like sit down and have
00:57:07.840 a really good in-depth conversation but i think he'd be willing to probably do that that's why he's so
00:57:12.180 popular is because there's a lack of white strong uh high testosterone masculine role models and
00:57:17.360 that's like strong strickland is that guy for for so many whites right now they they cheer him on like he's a
00:57:22.080 superhero yeah if you were going to get like if he would watch like america first imagine he goes
00:57:27.560 on cozy tv that he red pills the rest of the world like that whole mega movement that thinks that
00:57:32.380 israel is our greatest ally if they would flip like america i think that's the last domino before
00:57:37.620 everything turns basically i need to start talking to sean it sounds like yeah all right you got to
00:57:43.000 push him along yeah tell him to watch cozy um cozy.tv i love to talk to him yeah i mean but yeah that's
00:57:49.320 the thing i was going to say though i mean what about like the old school like paul newman like
00:57:54.800 steven mcqueen i feel like now silent type well not even just that but now i feel like for you to be
00:58:01.020 a masculine white guy you got to be like a bodybuilder you know you got to be like in the you got to be
00:58:06.080 taking creatine or you got to be on tea or something and it's like what happened to just being like
00:58:10.960 a masculine white guy who's just like i'm just not going to take shit from women or from the
00:58:16.700 government now it's like you're either a total pussy or you're like a hyper masculine like you're
00:58:21.040 on testosterone you're like a bodybuilder and i feel like we ought to just bring back masculinity
00:58:26.000 just being the norm you know you don't have to be a bodybuilder to be a man now it's like normal
00:58:31.120 like how you act actually you're masculine but it's not normal it should be normal just speak your
00:58:34.460 real mind exactly it shouldn't be like freakish that you speak your real opinions but exactly yeah
00:58:38.880 so that that'd be the like my my like more heterodox my hot take like the madman white guy like
00:58:46.180 yeah it's more like that or you know like the paul newman like the who's that he's an old actor
00:58:52.380 from like old hollywood okay was he in that prison movie golden age highwood and uh yeah yeah he was
00:58:59.060 actually yes no no you're thinking of the great escape with uh steve mcqueen i think right or no
00:59:04.420 that was paul newman paul newman's one of that southern jail and he's that he gets arrested for
00:59:09.280 destroying the parking meters oh no that's you thinking of a brother where art thou no no no um
00:59:16.660 i don't know it doesn't matter but um yeah cool hand luke cool hand luke is that paul newman yes
00:59:22.860 okay okay yeah yeah that definitely needs to come back but you make a good point about dan
00:59:27.220 bozarian uh potentially running for getting into politics sounds crazy but i think he could do it
00:59:32.000 this is the same background as donald trump exactly he'd come in he's smart this i'm speaking with
00:59:36.140 zero handles not not much knowledge imagine if we actually had the people to help keep you know
00:59:40.320 some advisors i think it's possible some of him come in and do something big and he's he's not for
00:59:45.100 sell he generally wants to save the country you guys find guys that aren't for sell yeah when they
00:59:48.980 go here's 100 million he's like fuck you i already have the money i don't need it well that was the
00:59:53.300 big appeal of donald trump initially is he came out and said i'm going to self-funder i don't need your
00:59:58.280 money he would say to the donors then he took all the donor money then he took like a billion dollars
01:00:03.060 so that but that was you know and that's one of the things i'm like people forget that nine years
01:00:08.540 ago he said he literally went to the republican jewish coalition and said you're not going to like this
01:00:14.220 and you're not going to like me because i'm not going to take your money and people forget that like
01:00:18.420 that's the kind of guy he used to be now you guys that aren't for sale you know and even like me
01:00:22.220 i'm not like rich don't like damn but i'm not i'm not willing to sell my soul it's like you know i don't
01:00:26.000 want to run in politics but it's not that you maybe i have to it might be no one's going to
01:00:29.840 change it but us i wish someone was someone else was doing it my girl started speaking up like
01:00:33.300 someone ever kept telling us someone else about it like who who else is speaking up a couple other
01:00:37.360 people if i don't do it who's going to do it i mean you were obviously ahead of me you were ahead
01:00:40.940 of me but there wasn't very many people it's still the list is extremely small it's still pretty
01:00:45.580 low exactly i don't want to do this i doubt that you guys want to do this either but i feel like i had
01:00:49.720 no choice you could be a big mainstream a daily wire commentator you probably have a show like
01:00:54.500 uh that noel's guy or something yeah right but then do what i mean one thing i've realized is
01:00:59.800 that having that respect and having dignity and stuff like that being able to sleep at night
01:01:03.300 you're only fighting your fight that's priceless like if you had a daily wire show speaking about
01:01:08.600 this every week you're going to have a little bit of extra money and then you're going to spend it
01:01:11.480 on degenerate things you're going to spend alcohol and sleeping with girls and trying to doing
01:01:16.100 things that satisfy today instead of the afterlife and instead of something that's greater than you
01:01:21.360 yeah well you have one life you have one life and people don't realize how fragile it is everybody
01:01:26.640 takes it for granted they think i'm going to live to be 80 years old we could all walk outside now and
01:01:31.780 just fucking die and it's like if you're michael knolls or you're matt walsh and you're on your you
01:01:36.540 know you get and i well i don't want to mix it like make it sound like violence or whatever but let's
01:01:41.320 say you're one of those people and something horrible happens and you're laying there bleeding out
01:01:44.620 are you going to think oh i'm so glad that i was like that i was subtle and smart about it and i
01:01:50.800 took all the money yeah i sold out and i lived a comfortable life no you're you're going to have
01:01:56.340 regrets and like that to me that has always been my north star is like i could die any day i want to
01:02:02.060 make my life count and you know when we all die we face a judgment with god and what what lasts in
01:02:08.200 eternity are the moral decisions that we make it's what we say it's what we do and at the end of the day
01:02:13.280 people have to recognize that you cannot make moral compromises people do every day but you're
01:02:19.000 not supposed to you know people lie every day and they go on they persist it with complacency and evil
01:02:24.640 things and because they get used to it because it's habitual they think it's not bad you're not
01:02:29.720 supposed to do it and people don't take that seriously enough everybody thinks it's just a big
01:02:34.580 game and i never thought any of that was fulfilling it's like you said you'd be michael knolls or one of
01:02:38.860 these guys and michael knolls knows way more than he lets on he's as red filled as we are he's just a
01:02:43.960 liar you know but you're one of those guys and you convince yourself that like you're part of the
01:02:48.760 solution somehow uh while you take with both hands and make a lot of money and live a comfortable
01:02:53.340 easy life i don't know how that would be fulfilling i don't know what that would be i don't think it is
01:02:56.960 you know it's like i thought i was going to lose like millions of dollars when i spoke up luckily the
01:03:00.100 deal you know if we're a jewish guy luckily we're still buying these he believes in freedom of speech
01:03:04.160 and we disagree on things i thought i was going to lose a lot of money when i spoke up but it's like
01:03:07.660 you know what the truth is more important than money maybe you'll be in the mr uh what's their
01:03:11.920 cartoon on daily wire you see that stupid oh my god maybe if you uh if you sell out you can get a
01:03:17.280 role as a voice actor this guy hit me up he was charles johnson said he worked with ben chaparro
01:03:24.880 yeah and he watched and i talked to him and maybe he just hates him can't say for sure because he's
01:03:29.380 Israeli intelligence of his own eyes he saw him taking like orders like what you say and do is crazy
01:03:34.180 yeah i know charles johnson yeah like i just talked to him on twitter and like wow this is crazy
01:03:38.440 yeah he did claim that about them what has been the major benefit i think last time we spoke
01:03:43.080 uh you're on my stream and you said uh elon just give me my fucking twitter back
01:03:46.920 that's it so how has it been since you've been back on on x it's awesome i totally missed it and
01:03:53.300 it's it's just good to have a voice again you know and to kind of to achieve some level of normalcy
01:03:59.460 you know i mean if you start to feel like you're not even a human being anymore because it's like
01:04:03.920 i'm banned from everything i just get kicked out of everything for having the wrong opinion so i mean
01:04:09.620 it's really like elevated my soul i feel like a person that i get to like commiserate with the rest
01:04:14.620 of the people and you know well what's funny is when elon brought me back he said well may he be
01:04:20.980 ratioed and may he be community noted into oblivion it's like i don't think i got community noted once i
01:04:27.280 don't think i got ratioed once it's the opposite i'm ratioing everybody else i'm community notes
01:04:32.620 everybody else and it just speaks to the fact that it's like there's this irrepressible will in the
01:04:38.660 country right now i'm an avatar of it it can't be stopped with censorship it wasn't stopped with
01:04:44.400 censorship over the past three years and uh you know what i think people watch it and i've talked to
01:04:50.440 some jewish people and they know i'm not an evil guy i think over time to my audience it's going to
01:04:57.160 sound like cucking to their audience it's going to sound crazy but i think over time we will achieve
01:05:01.480 mutual understanding i think over time it's like i said before you wake up one day and if you think
01:05:07.100 it's impossible then one day we're going to wake up and society will have changed and i think that
01:05:11.780 happens when you let everybody on the platform and everyone gets to talk and see how everybody
01:05:15.300 feels and uh you know these things have a way of resolving themselves so i'm optimistic about it
01:05:20.320 the crazy thing when they sense when they silence you you literally can't defend yourself so
01:05:23.960 they're calling you a nazi so it's all i'm hearing is you're this terrible nazi awful person
01:05:27.780 and then they're like wow i'm terrible what's his name again uh uh yeah because your numbers are
01:05:32.920 talking to you i'm like oh and i look a couple clips up you're not saying the things i was told
01:05:36.400 so it's just so unfair that they can do that take your voice and make you out to be whoever they want
01:05:40.200 to be yeah exactly that must have felt terrible you couldn't defend yourself it did yeah and i mean
01:05:44.620 even people that i knew like my my friend group in high school i knew all these guys in high school
01:05:49.500 you know my core group or whatever none of them want to talk to me after they're probably just
01:05:54.700 scared of ostracization that's how bad they made it yeah no some of them they genuinely believe i'm
01:05:58.940 evil but some are probably scared to talk to you because people get really scared of social pressure
01:06:03.880 yeah 100 it's very it's a very sad um situation but you know the thing i don't i don't like to feel
01:06:11.500 i like to tell people about it because then people know like the the gravity of it the severity of it but
01:06:16.980 at the same time you know i take some solace in the fact that jesus was crucified and it's like
01:06:22.440 if god could be i know you don't believe this but and you know you're not even really christian but
01:06:26.640 yeah no i'm not by respect christianity and islam but if god could become incarnate in man
01:06:32.560 and die on the cross for our sins and he literally came to save the world and is perfect and he was
01:06:38.140 killed it's like you can't feel bad that you get banned on twitter for being anti-israeli
01:06:42.360 that's that's puts you in perspective he had a lot harder than you did exactly exactly and there
01:06:48.140 is something there like i think playing the victim card is super weak we have to always frame things
01:06:52.460 in a way that makes it stoic and strong you know because i feel like even with the palestinian stuff
01:06:58.060 and you get why because they are like being they're all the victim but they don't think of themselves
01:07:02.320 as the victim it's like this is all supposed to happen and they find strength in something
01:07:07.560 you're extremely terrible they find strength in genocide yeah and i love that way of reframing
01:07:13.000 it in a way where it's like we have the strength i think that rhetorically it's so much more powerful
01:07:17.480 because if it and that just speaks to the movement at large if it's always negative if it's always
01:07:21.660 oppositional if it's always boo poor me we can't get ahead i think that's very unattractive i think
01:07:27.700 what's attractive is saying we're gonna win like we have this faith that like it's almost an irrational
01:07:33.900 faith that's like power of belief that's what inspires people even more than yeah victim mentality
01:07:39.320 is the worst in all aspects of life totally and like the palestinians what they call them martyrs
01:07:43.780 and stuff even like a way of more respect instead of just victims right exactly yeah how do you uh get
01:07:49.020 past that that's something like since i've been banned it's like i want i get annoyed that people
01:07:53.600 don't understand how difficult it could be and i get that victim thing sometimes but overall you're
01:07:59.120 like i think we had a call one time like you have to be the fearless leader yes you're right that's
01:08:03.720 what that's what people want they want on undying strength how do you do you have those moments or
01:08:08.360 are you just you fully i do i mean yeah to be candid i mean let's there have been some very dark
01:08:14.080 moments i mean especially after january 6th they were really coming from my head in a lot of ways
01:08:18.560 where they froze all my money and i thought i was going to get thrown in jail and i was put on no
01:08:22.760 fly list and really had a lot of problems but that's when you really have to dig deep and kind of
01:08:29.140 confront like who you really are in a way kind of you have to commune with god i think that's the
01:08:35.240 only thing because if you on some level we're not just fighting um a battle of convincing people like
01:08:41.940 what to care about we're like fighting a battle of like you should care period you know because it's
01:08:48.760 so easy to say to just kind of like embrace apathy or indifference and i think that comes from
01:08:55.160 uh like a materialism this belief that like this this is all there is this life this temporary life
01:09:02.080 and so to kind of get to strength it's in recognizing the fundamental nature of things
01:09:07.060 which is that it's all temporary everything passes everything we do the world does our problems do
01:09:14.460 our victories our defeats it's all temporary and so you really have to dig deep and find something
01:09:21.460 profound to go through these things and and i really believe that they like believe it or not
01:09:27.700 it's in a way this is actually a good process because the strongest steel is forged by the hottest
01:09:33.440 fire and the people that are best suited to lead are the people that have that and i'm not saying
01:09:38.700 necessarily it's me it's whoever but it's the people that have that depth of soul that character
01:09:43.200 right now we have a system and the people that are in charge are like the most ruthless the people
01:09:47.700 that are willing to kill the people that are willing to lie exactly and we need to really
01:09:52.760 save society we need a new class of men we need a new generation of men that they're going to be
01:09:58.000 the leaders because they dug deep and and have the most profound soul they have the most profound
01:10:03.860 experience and only those people can go through the darkest most difficult things like this and not
01:10:09.460 saying like hey being banned on twitter is the worst thing but like people underestimate how
01:10:14.520 difficult the social proof is peter denied jesus three times because of social pressure you can't
01:10:20.240 underestimate that as a force ostracism so um so anyway so yeah you really have to if i was just
01:10:27.160 some piece of shit grifter or some materialist who didn't really believe in this stuff i'd be like
01:10:32.600 hey man like why am i even doing this i just want to go my mom told me this is why you could never and
01:10:38.560 i love my mother but and i don't want to throw under the bus but you know a mother loves a child and
01:10:43.740 maybe isn't into the sacrifice the child has to make your mom wants you to be safe she's not
01:10:47.880 going to know the mission that's what she cares about you right but she told me after january 6th
01:10:52.800 she's like you can always just change your name and like right it's not going to work in 2024
01:10:58.580 but you know if i didn't give a shit yeah you're in this fight now if you die you die it's just you
01:11:03.040 know things are bigger than us sometimes we can't like be scared and that's why you know
01:11:06.380 even our religious i believe in god it's like things are more important i didn't realize how scared most
01:11:10.660 people are i really i really first saw it during covid and everyone's freaking out they might die
01:11:14.380 it's like we're all going to die we have to accept that exactly if you know i would rather live with
01:11:18.240 dignity than die like a coward like taking orders and bribes i don't know how these people can do it
01:11:22.940 especially some of these religious guys are going along with it they tend to love god and then they
01:11:26.780 won't like speak their truth like it's just it's disgusting well it comes down to you it comes down to
01:11:31.820 you it comes down to a moment of decision eventually somebody has to do the right thing
01:11:36.600 so many people are looking for the other person to do the right thing or the other person to do
01:11:40.740 the courageous thing the other person to make the sacrifice and it's like all these people
01:11:44.700 complacent in the israel thing they're like oh talking about israel that's for those guys outside
01:11:48.720 the venue to get shit on and that that's for them and it's like what are the leaders of the country
01:11:54.180 going to make the sacrifices and do the right thing so that it really comes down to do you care
01:12:00.440 enough about doing the right thing at the moment of decision to make the right choice time is always
01:12:05.740 right to do what's right and unfortunately we just can't count on anybody that has any power
01:12:10.440 to do that yeah almost none of them is sad because these guys like not believe in god
01:12:14.940 not have integrity they're not like i don't know in a way it makes sense that uh you're eventually
01:12:20.100 going to become president because of the position that you started in because if you
01:12:23.800 already lost everything and then your whole identity is pretty much attached to this movement
01:12:28.400 then you become this movement and so you they know that what are they going to corrupt you with
01:12:33.340 you're not going to be bought out nobody wants uh like like major organizations like that they
01:12:38.740 don't want to give you money they don't want to associate right like the major political
01:12:41.900 organizations they don't want to work with you because you're canceled because you're volatile the
01:12:44.880 major youtubers are not even going to have you on so how are you like nobody is going to doubt
01:12:49.580 that you're going to be corrupted what are they going to buy you out with at this point
01:12:53.080 i don't know i mean they can always kill me i guess which you know knock on wood i don't want that to
01:12:57.900 happen but like uh yeah i mean that that's the thing i've kind of become i've become the
01:13:03.160 personification almost of the movement i like represented in like a physical form um which is
01:13:09.280 you know can be a good thing and a bad thing but um you know it's like anything we just have to keep
01:13:14.680 fighting every day because as much as we have momentum right now people i think seriously
01:13:20.280 underestimate how much it's going to take to change everything it's not just waking people up
01:13:24.780 that's step one you know it's we need a lot of brainstorming we get smart people together and
01:13:28.780 figure out what the next steps are exactly unfortunately i wish it was someone else but
01:13:31.620 unfortunately it's us yeah well we need a hundred people just like us yeah you know we need a hundred
01:13:35.660 people that are willing to do the moral thing but also are really clever and smart and and then we
01:13:40.980 need time you know but i think things are moving in the right direction we're we've been growing
01:13:45.660 stronger despite all the persecution so things are moving in the right direction have you i was wondering if
01:13:52.040 you ever got like uh any attacks because of what you talk about on twitter like because at one
01:13:57.080 time like nick uh we're eating at in and out and then someone threw ketchup because you are really
01:14:01.820 hardcore like he's going he's a fighter he would want to throw something at this guy they don't want
01:14:06.480 to get beat up people throw stuff at me yeah where am i going to do that multiple times or just once
01:14:10.740 uh a couple times i mean we got the ketchup thing and then um that's crazy yeah i got called out a
01:14:17.440 couple times when i was in la some some chick came up she didn't throw anything at me but she came up
01:14:21.420 to me in like a coffee shop and she's like hey i saw you on infowars last night and blah blah blah she
01:14:26.920 gave me read me the ride right after the hitler uh which infowars the hitler on infowars yeah
01:14:33.000 and he's like i love hitler it's like shit what about you nick yeah well i guess gotta back my boy
01:14:39.820 up here yeah literally yeah i see a look at your face yes we're doing it wow all right
01:14:44.380 that's my favorite moment for the interview yeah i think i stick with you yeah i don't know if i was
01:14:52.940 ready to go there but i was like yeah i'm with my guy that much of a choice you know that's what he
01:14:57.180 said after uh i just saw a look in your face i didn't exactly yeah he was not happy but it was
01:15:02.620 loyalty absolutely after the ketchup incident the couple was driving away and we were like walking
01:15:07.500 out of the restaurant to get a burger somewhere else and they're like fuck you nick and nick goes
01:15:11.280 back yeah we love hitler that was the best fuck you back nothing has happened like no one's ever
01:15:19.060 you haven't i was wondering like what the best threats online but nothing nothing real people
01:15:23.480 like i said including jewish people that's why i'm i'm not like an anti-semitic bashing
01:15:53.320 jewish people there's lots of good jewish people out there a lot of them unfortunately do have
01:15:57.040 the loyalty i've noticed by talking to my jewish friends that's actually something i think i saw
01:16:01.420 maybe a year year and a half ago the nick say about the not you know not having jews and high
01:16:05.960 levels of government at first i thought that was like so outrageous against the constitution and i'm
01:16:09.580 still not saying i agree with it but after talking to my jewish friends it's really made me start
01:16:13.660 questioning the dual loyalty most of them there's a few exceptions we have these conversations
01:16:18.180 they always side with israel over america even i mean i'm saying they have dual loyalty i think
01:16:22.820 most of them have loyalty to israel yeah it's like dual is complete and then america's just a colony
01:16:26.740 uh but i got some some pushback or i guess you did for we're on the space and you're saying that you
01:16:32.040 don't want any you only want christian leadership in america and i'm like that makes the like what's
01:16:36.780 the alternative it makes the most sense if everybody has a unifying belief and they got me questioning
01:16:41.040 like well then you wouldn't be able to run well i don't want to be a politician uh and if as a
01:16:45.860 i'm okay living as a muslim in a christian nation a majority christian nation if you think of
01:16:49.900 most of the majority muslim countries they're pretty much all muslim leadership it's uncompromised
01:16:55.440 you need to have that sort of unity if you have differences in faith like over who killed god
01:17:00.620 yeah like how are you going to be able to serve the country and like swear on the bible
01:17:04.120 or have consistencies in the laws that are passed that's what yay 24 was all about everything that was
01:17:09.340 all the laws you you wanted to rewrite the constitution you wanted to go and rewrite all the laws and all
01:17:14.240 the rights and source it directly to the bible like that makes the most sense because if you're
01:17:18.520 going to have a christian country that has to be uncompromised well and laws are informed by morals
01:17:23.940 i mean it's even something as basic like if you were to say what's one law that everyone agrees with
01:17:28.640 it's like don't kill not killing people's immoral judgment and not everyone believes that you know
01:17:34.700 for example like a murderer a murderer center up a burglar if a burglar kills you to take your car
01:17:41.540 clearly that person doesn't believe in not killing because his morality is well what i want i'm going
01:17:47.960 to take and if you're in the way i'm going to kill you so every law don't steal don't kill don't uh you
01:17:54.760 know you have to file through the contract whatever all that stuff is based on morality and you know
01:18:00.140 people say well we can all kind of agree on a universal religion i don't think we can i mean take for
01:18:06.040 example like dennis prager dennis prager who runs prager university he's jewish he says well it's
01:18:12.140 about judeo-christianity blah blah well he goes to a speech and he gets asked a question about
01:18:17.020 pornography dennis prager says well i don't think a reasonable god would say that it's a sin to
01:18:22.420 masturbate he says and i actually think pornography is not always a bad thing there's your judeo-christianity
01:18:29.960 by the way a guy who says you can masturbate and you pornography is not a sin versus christians who
01:18:35.520 would say and that's why christ said i'm the fulfillment of the law because you are committing
01:18:40.660 lust in your heart if you look at a woman lustfully rather than if you just you know mess around with
01:18:46.540 a woman that's not your wife that's the difference between christianity and judaism you think there's
01:18:52.320 not a difference if you have people that are in charge that are jewish versus christian or atheists
01:18:56.900 for that matter i mean how do we know what even is an atheist morality it's something like well don't
01:19:02.240 bother me there is no morality exactly and that's where you get transgenderism pedophilia homosexuality
01:19:07.940 feminism abortion that's where you get all this stuff so so no i'm sorry like we can't all just
01:19:13.500 hold hands to sing kumbaya and say let's all just not kill each other what about kill ourselves they
01:19:19.260 support assisted suicide what about kill the unborn they support that i mean so you know we have to
01:19:25.840 figure out that's that's why i think at the bottom of all this it's a question of morals that's why
01:19:30.200 you know red pill always goes from like culture to politics to religion like it always flows in
01:19:36.740 that direction and you found that out too because when you said truth through funny and you got
01:19:42.200 involved in politics and the red pill scene and at the bottom of it what did you find religion it has
01:19:47.900 to be god god's the final answer exactly so and i i think that's where everything is headed is people
01:19:53.260 need to find you know what their religion is yeah people are always like well that's the biggest thing
01:19:57.980 they try to divide with me well he's christian i mean i would much rather live under a christian
01:20:01.720 country than a country that's not you know i don't care if the porn gets taken away kids should not
01:20:05.700 have access to porn right most of these issues aren't that big of deals to me there shouldn't be
01:20:10.060 a debate especially in the conservative world dennis pregger will say like abortion is allowed you
01:20:15.180 could watch porn and masturbation like these things should just be an absolute no and the worst part is
01:20:19.520 young kids have access to the porn computers when i was young it was an awesome possible to get
01:20:23.080 continue to open this grab their most hardcore pornography that can't be healthy for our minds
01:20:27.460 or good for society you've seen the generational shift like the amount of simpson in our generation
01:20:32.520 compared to yours is it's all because of porn because of the easy access to seeing a woman naked
01:20:37.240 and having sex is like that that's completely you have to go watch like open up playbook magazine
01:20:41.820 yeah i think if you watch it rare occasions like that's not going to damage your brain but if you're
01:20:46.340 watching hard pornography all the time at a computer that's got to be damaging no one wants to talk about it
01:20:50.820 no politician wants to be like hey let's ban this porn or at least make it impossible for kids to
01:20:54.780 then maybe they just won't touch it yeah porn i mean porn is a psychological tool of warfare that
01:21:00.000 the israelis use the palestinians it's the quickest way to corrupt the soul and i've seen it time and
01:21:04.600 time again uh i didn't think that like part of the reason that yay like has flaws in some of his
01:21:10.680 beliefs is because of porn i mean he sent us in an interview when he was six years old he found his
01:21:14.400 dad's porn stash a bunch of magazines and since then he's been like very obviously addicted to porn
01:21:19.140 like it's not there's no secret if you're nothing good on your brain that it does i've never watched
01:21:23.340 it but i don't anymore you've never watched porn no no no i'm actually i never did i have watched
01:21:26.740 porn but i don't anymore because it's not healthy there's nothing good on the brain doing it and
01:21:31.240 particularly for kids like i said i was a kid i had no access to it i just couldn't imagine being like
01:21:35.400 11 having have a computer and going find anything you want it takes 0.5 seconds where any kid was a
01:21:40.180 kid i would have been looking you know if i found a porn magazine i was like so excited but there was like
01:21:44.160 no access to it i couldn't imagine like 10 years old having that it's got to be so damaging to their
01:21:48.400 brains well christians don't run the porn industry no rabbi owns porno something that's
01:21:52.900 and only fans yeah and all the money only fans is funding israel yeah it's great all those only
01:21:57.520 fans girls that have free palestine in the bio are indirectly you're actually directly funding
01:22:01.540 genocide right now so they they're not even allowed to say anything pro-palestinian when they're funding
01:22:06.000 the genocide by getting naked on camera but dennis breaker recently said something about you he said
01:22:11.480 he was afraid to speak to you in that interview did you see that yeah i did see that yeah what was that
01:22:14.980 about well i forget because i think it was some time ago but um but yeah i mean these people they're
01:22:22.280 so hysterical i i've talked to people that disagree i've talked to doing people i've talked to other
01:22:27.300 people um but a guy like dennis prager says well i wouldn't talk to him because you know all these
01:22:31.820 reasons and i was telling this too i think i said this a moment ago it's like you'll talk to communists
01:22:37.640 who in your mind are the ideological enemy that have killed 100 million people you won't sit down and
01:22:42.480 talk to somebody who's like criticizing israel or like the israeli lobby that we all know exists
01:22:47.980 and you know what it is they know that they lose they know they they know that they would find
01:22:52.860 themselves on the other side of a dichotomy that would kind of put them on the outs if i sat down
01:22:59.960 with dennis prager and i really engaged with all my rhetoric everyone would side with me all the
01:23:06.040 christians all the americans would side with me if we if me and dennis prager debated pornography
01:23:10.340 what conservative would side with dennis prager if we debated about gaza what conservative would
01:23:15.900 side with prager that's they can't even have the conversation because they know that even to just
01:23:21.160 have it would be a defeat for that to even be on the table that's why they rely on ostracism so it's
01:23:26.780 like well this guy just doesn't exist or if you don't know about him right he's evil don't even
01:23:31.340 give him any money so it's all cult they're trying to pay you as an evil person so that they can
01:23:35.460 avoid the conversation and have the whole world view destroyed in about 30 minutes you don't
01:23:39.740 honestly already said this which actually when i first walked through your clips you're probably
01:23:42.620 one of the best people if i'm the best person of breaking some of the stuff down so like this
01:23:46.600 is why as soon as you see like oh this is why they don't want to talk me yeah i mean that's really
01:23:50.840 it i mean you know because that you can count on one hand how many people are willing to talk
01:23:57.380 about this stuff period and then how many of them are good at talking about it have the right
01:24:01.500 information it's even fewer because it requires so much discernment and you kind of have to know
01:24:06.140 certain people and be in this for a little while because you jump in and it's hard to parse what's
01:24:11.060 real and what is a lot of research i got new to it but it's still just so hard to bear out what's real
01:24:15.880 it goes it's so deep and in-depth the way things are intertwined and hidden and it's it's in every
01:24:21.440 system you don't get things wrong either then you look crazy exactly wrong it's really bad you look like
01:24:26.060 you're crazy and the whole thing could be a conspiracy exactly it's such a huge topic so it really
01:24:30.380 requires like a special skill set and the other thing is i'm young if i were 20 years older i think
01:24:36.360 i would get treated differently but it's that i'm a young guy reasonably attractive like i'm not some
01:24:42.020 freakazoid like 600 pounds with a neck beard or whatever i'm like a young reasonably attractive hip
01:24:47.480 articulate guy and i'm likable like i go to these things and you know if you didn't engage me with
01:24:53.800 politics you wouldn't not like me you know and that's what they can't tolerate if i went and i was the
01:24:59.300 boogeyman like i was screaming racial slurs and like a not funny way because sometimes i do but
01:25:04.780 like it's comedy right right right i took these clips and they're being funny and they may look
01:25:10.320 like you're i use comedy too because it's funny that's why people engage right that they clip it up
01:25:14.840 make it look like you're saying things you're not exactly yeah but if i was legit like i was
01:25:19.140 going out there like hey i hate everyone that doesn't look like me they would want to promote
01:25:23.800 me because they'd say oh this look at this piece of shit and it's so ironic they always say sunlight
01:25:28.700 is the best disinfectant if we expose this guy no no one's going to like him it's like well i'm
01:25:34.140 waiting for that exposure like please you know if i'm so bad let's give me a platform i'll show
01:25:39.400 everyone how bad i am but they know it's not going to go down that way all those ratios you're getting
01:25:44.580 yeah exactly exactly exactly he just had to like throw that out totally yeah what do you think is
01:25:50.800 the best example uh because i was asked this question that we're winning the culture war i think
01:25:55.220 that the first thing that popped into my head was uh the ratios and then as i said it sounded kind of
01:25:58.920 silly like he's in twitter ratios is a good indicator that people but it is so it's showing public opinion
01:26:05.220 and showing where the energy is going what is the best indication you've noticed that we're winning
01:26:09.580 this war i would say that it's the young people the young people on both sides are if you look at
01:26:17.860 the polling like with the war in gaza the young people don't support israel not on the left not
01:26:22.000 on the right on the left they're protesting on the campuses on the right they're like all groypers
01:26:26.480 it's like when i show up to turning point and they all cheer when they greet me it's it's like tyler
01:26:31.220 boyer who's one of the big ups at turning point usa he says oh the groypers aren't so bad anymore
01:26:36.660 that that took five years for him to get there but he recognizes he can't hire anybody that isn't
01:26:41.160 a groyper it's the ratios it's stream it's the fact that you and i have both been censored we get
01:26:46.000 huge viewership on rumble we've both been censored we still are popular on twitter
01:26:49.780 so it's basically the failure of censorship and the the capitulation by the system to what we're saying
01:26:57.580 you know i mean if you look at like charlie kirk five years ago we started the groyper war against
01:27:02.340 charlie kirk five years later am i closer to where he was then or is he closer to where i am now
01:27:08.960 yeah you're definitely winning that's the answer you know but it's interesting too like you say like
01:27:13.540 how censored you are for example they're hanging out with you lamb and you're so famous still so
01:27:16.800 somehow it's like all the censorship you're still known i don't think i get enough credit but that's
01:27:21.340 where the victim is how it comes in i'm like people say that i'm like do you know like what it's
01:27:24.680 like he's like really famous like i knew a little i knew you're big when you're that big like oh you're
01:27:29.300 like almost like mainstream famous walking around with no youtube no tiktok no instagram
01:27:34.700 so it's like pretty impressive yeah everything well how do you get i want to ask you this first
01:27:39.540 but how do you get rid of that doomer mentality because there's a lot of people within the red
01:27:43.580 pill i guess that are on this i don't understand the truth they're like things suck don't have kids
01:27:48.520 get a vasectomy there's this ideology once you realize when you realize the truth uh that you
01:27:53.600 should just give up and that everything is fucked and that women are evil and that there's no hope
01:27:57.360 how do you get uh gather hope yeah i think you know have more kids i think for the most part
01:28:03.160 women are great it's the men they want a strong masculine men and they're strong and you're like
01:28:07.460 giving her not bossing around but giving her rules telling her telling her what you expect out of her
01:28:11.840 they're going to respect you and i think you're a man worth respecting i think the problem is a lot of
01:28:15.540 these guys are bitter because they're not worth respecting they're not like they're not offering
01:28:19.480 anything to the girl they're lazy they're sitting around it's not just about money either to luckily
01:28:23.160 have you know i figured out girls before i ever made any money but they need to respect you so
01:28:27.140 because like most these guys don't deserve respect they're too they're scared to like a tweet you
01:28:30.920 have a man scared to like a tweet you think the girl's gonna respect them but if you're a man that
01:28:34.600 demands respect you're not going to have these problems these guys are always bitching about
01:28:37.580 so i think it's hopefully it comes down to the man and i think the world's going to be fine hopefully
01:28:41.600 i mean you can't might as well have kids and it's because if it i mean it destroys it destroys but
01:28:47.100 i mean we doubt not to have them because everything goes fine before things get better and i think we
01:28:50.700 can fix all these problems which is why we're trying i wouldn't be trying but i think we can fix them
01:28:54.460 do you think it's going to get worse before it gets better it's impossible to tell you know
01:28:59.740 definitely could but you've got to i try to stay optimistic i try to look positive at things yeah of
01:29:05.280 course i have guns and stuff in case in case it's not but i try to stay optimistic
01:29:08.240 and just keep keep pushing because that's all you can do society collapses that's out of your
01:29:12.740 control one doomer moment that i had and i wanted to see what you guys think about this was after
01:29:17.480 covid seeing how what they got away with when it came to locking up our kids keeping us inside
01:29:23.260 taking away our jobs you know injecting us with a bioweapon you know lying to us about george floyd
01:29:29.700 and making us all protest at the same time covering up our faces before going into a restaurant
01:29:34.540 and then we knew all this realized they lied to us and then life went back to normal completely
01:29:40.080 and that there's not like right now knowing all those things that there's not an uprising on every
01:29:44.360 single major city in america and we are not demanding justice for the fact that they ruined
01:29:48.500 the mental health of an entire generation of kids people didn't go to their graduations
01:29:52.740 people were kept inside people like lost their minds some people are still recovering from that
01:29:57.740 and so they did that and then people aren't uprising there's not a revolution going on
01:30:08.420 what's the white pill from that no there is no white pill i mean that's that's complacency
01:30:14.020 and it just goes to show people don't get agitated by things like that people get agitated when they're
01:30:19.740 hungry people get agitated when they're too hot they don't seem to get agitated when they have to get
01:30:24.500 like a vaccine or something that's why i think it does have to get worse before it gets better
01:30:28.720 because that's the only thing that snaps people out of complacency is i mean even like right now
01:30:33.600 everyone recognizes like everything is getting worse right now everything's getting more expensive
01:30:38.760 inflation's out of control inflation's bad crime is getting worse like more bad things are happening
01:30:45.460 it's like even even in little ways i said this for a long time i'm like the country's going to get worse
01:30:50.640 and things that are imperceptible right now but will be very noticeable later it's like going into
01:30:56.460 target and there's shit everywhere you know like stuff isn't on the shelves or it's like
01:31:01.500 your flight gets delayed more often or maybe it's like weird issues with the bowling planes or whatever
01:31:06.760 it's like little imperceptible things things that you might not predict but everything is just going
01:31:12.520 to start to decay and degrade a little bit because people are less competent each generation cares less
01:31:18.300 is less competent than the generation before and i think over time it's going to create uh basically
01:31:23.700 an unlivable situation but even then i mean a lot of people talk about like a collapse people talk
01:31:29.980 about a scenario where it's like oh we're going to get to a point where people are they're going to
01:31:35.320 say we've had enough it's like when is this going to happen in brazil you would think that yeah when
01:31:40.240 is that going to happen in south africa yeah when is that going to happen in any other country
01:31:44.020 that's a shithole it doesn't arrive and but the answer to that is there there isn't a moment when
01:31:51.080 things automatically get better and that's really kind of the implicit assumption when people say i'm
01:31:56.580 waiting for a collapse when people say you know things got to get worse to snap people out of
01:32:01.120 complacency what they're saying is they're kind of waiting for things to kick in where it automatically
01:32:05.860 starts to improve and elon musk talks about this peter teal talks about this two paypal mafia guys
01:32:11.660 but i agree with them on this they both say that progress is not a given human progress is not a
01:32:17.420 given has to be fought for by every generation and if you don't have like really exceptional people
01:32:22.940 like actually fighting and winning these battles humanity will slide back where things will get
01:32:28.520 worse and it won't automatically get better it'll just run or a dark age and it'll take a thousand
01:32:34.200 years before another general exceptional generation rises up and says we're going to fight for a better
01:32:39.580 future so it's incumbent on us it's incumbent on people you know individuals that are going to say
01:32:46.400 i'm not going to get the vaccine but how many people did you know people watch my show and i
01:32:51.960 hit them for years you can't get the vaccine you have to get fired you have to get expelled
01:32:55.900 i people i know people i'm friends with got vaccinated yeah it's a small one i lived in san
01:33:02.060 francisco for like 20 years everyone wore a mask and i would refuse to do it so many friends like i
01:33:06.360 just put it on but it's like no if you guys don't put it on it wouldn't be a fight you guys are just
01:33:09.880 going along with it yeah it caused tons of issues i want to put them on but it was worth it to me to
01:33:14.180 have a little you know the only time it is when i flew that was the one time like all right i guess
01:33:17.940 i got to do it but other than that right not putting a mask on san francisco so ridiculous with
01:33:21.740 a few times because your life is still there of nine hundred dollars you can't be arrested
01:33:25.020 but a few times i'm at a store and they're like yeah put a mask on i'm like well i'm just going to walk
01:33:28.580 out with this or i'll give you my money yeah right i was really going to do it too because i was so
01:33:32.600 fed up that was like towards the end where i was so fed up with it and that's a perfect example
01:33:36.740 talking about decaying cities i watched that city at this point i watched it completely decay in front
01:33:41.040 of my eyes it always had some problems but almost got worse people were shooting up on the streets
01:33:45.220 smoking crack on the streets shitting on the streets just complete built robbing stealing it's like
01:33:50.440 india over there it's not have you been to san francisco it's like no yeah you don't need to be
01:33:54.380 basically it smells like piss as soon as you open the door overwhelming homeless fentanyl you know
01:33:58.460 people are literally shooting up or watch out one day a guy's like shitting right in front of my car
01:34:02.000 and then i yelled at him so when i thought i was me the bad guy would be yelling at the homeless dude
01:34:05.120 shitting on my car it's like victim mentality there everyone wants to be oh these poor people
01:34:09.340 it's their fault it's their paws i know they're they're slow i feel bad of course i feel bad for them
01:34:12.980 but they're deliberately smoking crack doing doing math doing fentanyl and the city just allows it
01:34:18.200 it's not like uh it's not there's nothing positive about letting these people do it
01:34:21.780 yeah well and in san francisco how many trillions of dollars of value are there in uh silicon valley
01:34:28.320 you know i mean right around there which is the the distinction or the contrast incredible think
01:34:34.560 about on the one hand it smells like piss there's needles everywhere who was it that got uh the founder
01:34:39.560 of one of those tech companies got like stabbed to death probably exactly actually a legit person
01:34:44.840 yeah and you know that's going on and then a little ways away you got cupertino you got the apple
01:34:51.120 headquarters it's like the most sophisticated headquarters in the world and you think we
01:34:55.960 can build iphones we can build these marvels but we can't have a city where there's not
01:34:59.820 shit in the street right in san francisco those apartments are so expensive here in a neighborhood
01:35:03.740 where like a million like multi-million dollar apartments and you go downstairs and people
01:35:07.340 like shooting up and shitting on the streets it's it's pure insanity i've had there's like
01:35:11.600 these gay parades i came by and had guys make sex in front of my house before it was absolutely
01:35:15.580 disgusting it was so big yeah they were literally having sex in my driveway are you serious that's
01:35:22.100 serious 100 serious were they like homeless or like no just like they had these gay rallies there
01:35:26.860 there's one called the polsom street fair i reckon you don't look it up and all these guys they come
01:35:30.580 in like leather and whips and they're just like beating each other like having sex all over the
01:35:34.920 streets in the middle of the day it's just absolutely this is like i went to new york
01:35:37.720 and i asked the new yorkers like what do you think about pride month of like kids seeing this
01:35:42.500 stuff and like oh well you shouldn't take your kids to the parade it's like what if you open the
01:35:45.680 door over the whole city and you just see guys on your driveway like but this is the importance of
01:35:51.520 a movement like this because you need to have strong men who are going to be resilient against
01:35:55.560 the next wave and the next one and i really hope to see that but sometimes it's like i talk to the
01:36:00.940 liberals on the one minute podcast and these people if you ask like random people on the street they
01:36:05.160 have no idea about anything just for like the 10 000 people here on rumble like just to be on the
01:36:11.200 people don't even know about this website yeah like most people are completely brainwashed and i
01:36:16.200 don't want to sound like a doomer by saying this but it's just being realistic you ask the average
01:36:20.200 person they have no idea about anything that's going on at all they don't even know what's happening
01:36:25.220 in israel palestine you think that it's normal because on this side of the world we speak about this
01:36:29.620 every single day but they have no idea that i asked him a simple question like what do you think
01:36:33.700 about israel palestine who sat here i'm like uh i don't get involved i don't know about all that
01:36:38.480 like i'm getting to the bag like that's the average person's life uh so to be optimistic it is hard but
01:36:44.920 you have to you have to have hope or otherwise they're going to be able to stop all over us well
01:36:48.940 the white pill is those people will come along with us the the real question is you know we have
01:36:53.680 to win over the elites we have to take over the elite institutions and then those just as surely as
01:36:57.620 those people go along with the life of us we have to shift culture to theirs going to follow us
01:37:02.540 we have to be the cool guys and then they're going to follow each other to go for it so there's
01:37:06.440 there's multiple ways you have to attack this you know there's information there's a talk to people
01:37:10.500 intelligently but a lot of the dumb people you just have to make them like oh these guys are
01:37:13.900 voting that way yeah there was one dude that i got him to become a muslim like on the one minute
01:37:19.640 podcast because he's like i'm looking for something i'm like you might as well look into islam he's
01:37:23.200 like yeah and he said the shahada and then i look at his i don't want to put him up last but i looked at
01:37:27.200 his twitter afterwards all of his tweets are about like man i just want to eat pussy
01:37:31.860 it's just like man when she's it like memes like when she sits on your face like i'm like oh my god
01:37:37.840 like i wanted to find a sort of so i could dm him and like teach him more about and then but
01:37:42.800 those are the guys are going to come along you know but that's that's the starting point is eating
01:37:47.240 pussy and then they're going to graduate from there but yeah i don't want to i don't want to keep
01:37:51.760 everybody here too long uh thank you for coming on i appreciate it a little bit late a little
01:37:55.500 black people time but you know we're a little busy okay yeah yeah exactly right yeah this is
01:38:02.960 probably the busiest weekend of the year yes um but thanks so much uh jake shields i highly
01:38:07.680 appreciate you soldier in this fight thanks for having me thank you so much for coming on afpac
01:38:12.280 tomorrow um is it going to be live streamed yes so we can see you all the time is if i live to
01:38:17.280 whoever keeps asking said uh well we'll text the details tomorrow yeah all the details and jake
01:38:22.400 where can we find you uh jake shields uh ajj twitter is probably the best jake shows instagram
01:38:28.080 i think i'm finally going to start a podcast i might as well i'm always around people that are
01:38:31.920 interesting so i might as well share my ideas yeah you have quite a good network out there so
01:38:36.320 i might always mess around a little bit see if i can get it going so check out jake shields podcast
01:38:40.800 in the future i appreciate you guys along with love speech i'll see you in the love speech community
01:38:44.080 nick will be doing a space very soon when you're less busy yes and everybody make sure to follow
01:38:48.640 the stream we're almost at 400 000 followers on rumble i highly appreciate you free speech is
01:38:53.200 extremely important support these guys and anybody on this side of the movement that's doing good
01:38:57.040 things make sure you support them because we uh it's bigger than just entertainment this is uh
01:39:01.120 this is a war that we're fighting appreciate you guys and i'll see you soon bye