SNEAKO - January 04, 2024
SNEAKO Reveals The Real Reason He Converted To Islam...
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Summary
In this episode of Strike It Big, we re joined by our good friend Sneeko to talk about his life in the past year and what he s been up to in the present. We talk about how he s grown as a person, what s been going on in his business and what s going to happen in the future. He also talks about his transition back to Islam and how it s changed his outlook on life.
Transcript
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So today we're at the top of an apartment building in sunny Miami and we're joined with Sneeko.
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So what's changed since last time? Obviously, we had our interview in Las Vegas.
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A lot's changed. I was saying earlier, I feel like I've aged five years in a year.
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A lot of maturing and obviously my version, a lot more businesses, a new future with Rumble.
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And, you know, we're just continuing to build and grow and make sure that I establish myself
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for the future. And what sparked all of that? What actually changed? I think if you're not
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always making new goals, then you're going to become complacent. So I'm always looking maybe
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five, 10 years into the future. If I don't have, if I don't think that way, then I get depressed
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and I get complacent and I become slow, sluggish. I start getting into degeneracy. So I always need
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to be planning towards something generational and just got my first investment property as of
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yesterday approved and yeah i'm just looking to become a strong father in the future i'm training
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to be the the best man i could possibly be you mentioned businesses what businesses is it that
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you've got going on outside of the rumble deal so i have my my clothing line obviously um we have
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saber i don't want to speak too much about saber soon but that we're building that um i have active
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Income that's going to launch on December 9th. Active Income, we've been working on that for
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about a year. I've been traveling the whole world. You've probably seen me travel all over the world
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so that I can assemble the team. And what is it? Is it a course, a community, a program?
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What is Active Income? It's everything. It's all those combined. There's levels for
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how hard you want to work. You notice when you just do a course, you get a lot of people that
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want to have the illusion of working. I'm sure you've come across these people that
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they they like the idea of building something more than they actually like doing it and they're like
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yeah i'm gonna do this and they talk about what they're gonna do and they they will sit in the
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calls and they'll get the information they'll talk to the professors but they don't actually
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take any initiative so we have a lot of levels in active income so if you already established
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there's um opportunities there for you if you are just low level there's opportunities for you
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if you are you know on the same level as me or the the professors there's levels for you
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I believe in the period of time since our last interview, you've reverted to Islam.
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Yeah, I just came back from Mecca about a week and a half ago.
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And that was the best place that I've ever been to.
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That was the closest I think that a place was to heaven.
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i would say that's where i actually saw true peace malcolm x wrote about it back in in the
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early 60s and i highly recommend anybody go my christian filmer went there and he didn't really
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have the same uh feeling that i got there but that was a place where i genuinely saw true peace
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like you could see thousands and thousands it almost seems like millions of people will come
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in a day to one place to pray especially five times in a day they'll all go uh to pray there's
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not that much security there's not that many people that are there trying to pat you patting
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you down or metal detectors or that many police officers just almost like a rolling loud five
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times a day and everybody acts orderly and it's because they're all acting under the fear of god
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and that will completely shift in my perspective um about where i want to live and and what i want
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to believe in and it really strengthened my faith so i i think for the future that's where i want to
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go I want to as of now obviously people make fun of me say that I change my mind frequently but
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I'm always seeking new information so I think now I'll build for the next maybe five something
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years in the west and then I want to be the the person who lives internationally I mean I think
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that's important isn't it to not be so stuck in your ways and think this is how I've done things
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before you seem to be clearly quite open-minded about listening to other beliefs or perceptions
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taking them on board and thinking okay now how do i feel about this and clearly that's what's
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happened with the religion stuff everyone changes their mind but not everybody makes content and
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that's the issue with it like you're changing your mind just like every 25 year old would
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but the difference is your story's life yeah yapping for three to five hours exactly and a
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mic every single day so i've obviously i understand the criticism but i i like being an open book and
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i consider myself a very honest person so i understand why people criticize that it doesn't
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bother me you know it shows that i'm have a willingness to learn and that i'm genuine
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and that i'm really trying to seek truth through funny but now i've reached like a crux or a
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turning point in my in my career because the model of my streaming which i started about a year and a
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half ago was seek truth through funny and now i feel as though i found the truth where i know
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you know who controls the world who controls the decisions that the politicians make i i pretty
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much know or i know who created everything i believe in god now so i know what the truth is
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and that rage aspect has kind of left my streaming where i'm like freaking out every day like what's
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going on and really angry and upset about everything going on because now i know so it's
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there's a turning point and i have to figure out um what i want to do next and obviously maybe
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you've seen the the irl streaming for the past couple months and that's fun it's good entertainment
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But at the same time, it's extremely soul-sucking and draining.
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And I don't think like my community, the love speech community, really understands that how draining it is.
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And I don't mean to like victimize myself by saying that.
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But those relationships with just influencers who are literally just living for clout, their God is clout.
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Being around those people all the time will drain you because they'll be one way when you're face to face with them.
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And then as soon as you're gone, they'll switch up.
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And it's a very weird relationship to have that I don't think most people are used to.
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Obviously, I don't think Mark has ever been around that type of relationship where people
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Because if there's beef, if there's drama, then people are more interested.
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And I think going forward, the IRL streaming, it's good, but it's not sustainable long-term.
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I think you guys have seen how many people have genuinely went insane doing it.
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People give up their friends, their morals and everything just for more views.
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Because if you're going to try to appease that lowest common denominator, those people
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who always want to be entertained, the people are just like, I want to see, they just want
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to see eight hours of people on a screen because they don't have friends and they don't go outside
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and they just want to sit there and live vicariously through the streamer if you just try to entertain
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them and make them happy you're gonna you're gonna go insane so i think going forward for for 2024
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now that i feel as though i know the truth and i have i'm pretty set in what i believe in
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and how everything trickles down from god and it's time to go on a on a fighting arc
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a ufc fighter i don't want to mispronounce his name i think it's a
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Mavsar or Mavsar I apologize but he says he wants to start training with me 17 and own the UFC right
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now he's also Muslim and I look forward to that and just becoming stronger better stacking up my
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wealth you know continue to stream to the community build my businesses continue to travel
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gain more experiences become more knowledgeable educated and get ready for for fatherhood since
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being in Miami we've certainly noticed these last two weeks that people do have a tendency to snake
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each other behind their backs and for sure for sure like even when we're just talking to some
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people they're always talking bad about you know all these other people do you ever think that
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you'll move out this miami um circle or even dubai circle and go somewhere completely remote
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yeah i think so i mean miami's one but la is a whole different ball game
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la like if you think miami's bad la they jet they actually worship the devil yeah we've been there
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as well yeah i'm not even saying that like they actually worship the devil in la so that place is
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just if you spend two three weeks there in the cloud circle you you'll feel it afterwards like
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what is going on with me yeah that's the plan i i really enjoyed mecca like to an extent where it
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almost was was so peaceful and i i loved it so much that i couldn't live there because i wouldn't
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get anything done i would just want to pray i would just want to have conversations with
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with scholars. I just want to meet the people there, um, and actually enjoy life. Uh, I wanted
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to still travel to Qatar. I loved Morocco a lot. And I think I really do fit in, in the Arabic
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world in the middle East. That's a place where I could see myself establishing a base long-term
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right now. How do you know if someone's a real friend? Like, how do you judge that? Because it
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must be so difficult. So how old are you, Curtis? Uh, 25. We're all 25. You're all 25. I think 25
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is the age where people stop loving you for you as a man i think women will always get appreciated
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people will still love them for for who they are but as 25 it becomes that age where you are just
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valued for what you bring to the table why do you say 25 and not like 18 because 18 you still
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held some slack you're still kind of adolescent you're not fully there people you don't have the
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expectation that you need to be you need to be successful you need to have something going for
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you. 25, it's like, all right, get to it. And you will never, at this point forward, and it sounds
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like kind of dooming mentality, but I think it's the truth. Nobody's ever going to genuinely like
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us anymore. It's just, what do you bring to the table? And when you get to that realization that
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you have to start getting to it, women and children will always kind of be valued for,
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for who they are. They have that cute, beautiful thing. But especially when you get to a level of
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influence and wealth, people will always have those lingering thoughts. Like, what can I get
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from this guy. And if you ever have that thought about some of them, then it's not a genuine
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friendship. Um, even if you can be genuine with them all the time, if that thought ever crosses
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your mind immediately, it's an opportunistic relationship. So I don't, I honestly don't
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trust anyone. I don't trust anyone besides, um, people from, from back in New York, my family,
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or, you know, even like my, my employees and stuff like that. We're, we're friends, but I
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understand that it's a conditional friendship. You know, you have to bring somebody to the table.
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so do I. And I don't think it's a bad thing because time is the most valuable currency.
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And you have to be very careful about how you spend it. And I don't just like, for example,
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the people that I really trust from back in New York, I don't talk to them that much because I
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need to be spending my time building something. So my friends that I hang out with, like my
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employees and my team, we're still profiting off of the time that we spend together. And we both
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know that. And I think that that's just the better way to go forward because at the top,
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it becomes more competitive and i don't want to fall behind does that make it hard to build like
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real relationships with women yeah 100 100 uh i think women especially it's not just business
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relationships with friends i think women too um i i don't think that we're ever going to you're
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still in the same uh relationship that you i remember you're in a relationship she's over
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there it's nice to meet you he spoke very highly about you last time it's um i i think
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no woman is ever going to genuinely love me for me anymore i think that bridge crossed maybe like
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the girls that i was dating back when i was like 17 18 and it doesn't it didn't happen um how does
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that make you feel it is what it is it is what it is don't you think they can love you for you
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but they're maybe initially they're attracted to the resources and money but then you know slowly
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they're going to fall in love with you as a person i see it as like a miami mindset like i feel like
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everybody from miami and la has these thoughts on women and and they're so ingrained that that's
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the way it is but i feel like as soon as you go to a small town things are different and the women
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are different they will start to see that your your soul is not as pure anymore when you're 25
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and you've been through many relationships and you've had more experiences your your soul is not
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capable of falling in love the way a girl like now i'm cold-hearted so i'm not going to be able
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to have that pair bond relationship anymore it's going to be a business-like relationship where
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i bring you know i'm the man and you're the woman and this is how it's going to go going forward
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which is why i actually think it's better in the middle east uh they do arrange marriages in saudi
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arabia i think that's the best way to do it because then you don't risk having a heartbreak
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early on and you don't have a like a soul tie or a failed relationship because anybody who has had
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an ex for over a year or two years you're still in love with that person even especially if it's
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multiple like if you ever seen a girl who's been in like multiple relationships that girl is broken
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because their soul is in all these different places.
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Myron will recommend guys will have a 50 body count
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And I actually think that's just terrible advice
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where you you sleep with all these women you start to create a hunger for women that is never
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satisfied like it's never going to go away like i said even if you're with an amazing girl and
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everything's fine at the back of their head you're still thinking about like who's the next i disagree
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with that though because what i found is and i was thinking i was saying this when we're in the
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pool the other day to you is once you have been with a certain amount of women for me it's almost
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like well I've done it so there is no stone left unturned I'm not going to have that thought of
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oh but what if or she's because you do have that all the time you can't actually make a decision
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on the girls that you're dating because there's so many options out there but I think it'd be
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worse if I'd only ever been with one person in in that relationship I feel like I'm more likely to
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think what's it like to be with other people but if you've already been with certain types of girls
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you don't have that itch that you want to scratch anymore but we've got someone that's only actually
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you been with one girl so is that true or is it not well i mean like obviously yeah it's something
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that i'm curious about but i think that for me it's obviously the love that i have for my girlfriend
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and it's also a discipline thing that it's just that i just don't need to know about that so i'm
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just going to stay on the path that i'm on not fuck up the good thing that i've got going and
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just keep it moving but it's definitely tempting i don't think you ever scratched that itch i think
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that that people have this misconception that like if i if i sleep with 50 women that it's going to
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be gone it just creates something you're just always going to keep seeking it it doesn't go
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away that you can't scratch that itch but is it a sense of the grass is always greener right but
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if you've been to that grass and you've realized it's actually a bit brown and murky i've been to
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it so i don't need to go back to the grass eventually why are you still enjoying playing
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in the glass right so maybe it's hypocritical because i haven't necessarily got to that point
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but i think maybe i'm closer to getting to that point having seen different looks
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bollocks that's a good way of seeing it but i see maybe i'm delusional i don't know that's like
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telling someone to get addicted to cocaine to know that they don't like cocaine maybe and then
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you're addicted to cocaine you know and then you have to go to rehab to get out it takes training
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it takes a lot of practice like you can fix it kind of but it's still in the back of your mind
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always but i would also disagree with that i mean when i was younger i did cocaine mdma care all of
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this stuff at parties and i'm so glad i got that shit out of my system i've got no interest in
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that now i'll smoke the odd joint on a weekend that's it i've got no interest in drugs specifically
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from when i was doing it when i was younger so interesting do you think monogamy can can work
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on that basis then if in general men are and maybe women too always have an itch that they
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want to scratch elsewhere and they're not necessarily focused on one person biologically
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maybe do you're saying that's the argument for monogamy i'm saying how do you feel about monogamy
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is it possible yeah i mean for you some people for me no i i don't think so um maybe at first like
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we'll see but i think in long term it's it's not i mean you could have multiple like you could have
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a halal relationship where there's multiple wives but um it doesn't mean that you need to go sleeping
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around all the time but me personally at this moment i don't think so but you know obviously
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i want to start with one wife and then see and then go from there but you know i don't want that
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to be the the deciding factor that's going to run my life i don't want um women to control my
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decision making anymore like that's that's one of the least important um pursuits of a man like
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there's so much that we can do there's so much i want to create there's so many people that i want
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to inspire like why am i going to keep investing my energy into into thinking about women to that
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extent um so maybe monogamy is possible like but i just don't want that to to be the the main
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dictator as of now of course and i think the funny thing about what you just said there is
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the more you don't focus on chasing girls and you do focus on building yourself as a man
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the girls then come to you 100 they start to flock towards you more so it's better to
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to build status to build accomplishments to build wealth is to become equal to an attractive woman
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that was 50 cent who said that yeah you have to you have to build yourself up to just to be on
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the same level as an eight as a woman takes five to ten years of consistent struggle blood sweat
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and tears with the reversion to islam would that impact you and monogamous relationships though
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because surely if you are you know practicing the religion or however you would say it you have to
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treat all of these women that you're with the same and of course if you are religious and having to
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do that then you're going to run for a bag quick that's not the main focus i think for most muslims
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that's not even one of the dictating i don't think they're focused on that as much of other people on
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the outside of people like make funny like oh you converted to islam so you gotta multiple wives
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well not really like that's not even if you speak to most muslims that's not something that they
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really talk about to that extent it's just it's something that happens naturally um but i don't
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think people really revert for that reason so speaking of which what made you want to revert
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it was malcolm x when i was when i was like 13 14 i read that autobiography and actually seeing
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his trip to mecca it always inspired me because that changed his whole philosophy he always had
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this idea that he wanted to, that he wanted black people to self-segregate and that integration was
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never possible. That peace was all, he has this really angry mentality because he came from the
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KKK was like knocking on his door. They were like smashing his windows. He came from a troubled past
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and then Mecca changed his perspective. And he saw that people could operate equally and people
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could operate peacefully under God. Uh, that book really changed my, uh, my life when I was younger
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and it made me see what I wanted to do. And it hit the way he was able to impact people with
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words was really inspiring and what is it about the islam religion that resonates with you the
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oneness i think the word is a tawhid i don't want to uh mispronounce it but tawhid is the idea of
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oneness that there's one creator and that we are all part of one thing we're all equal we're all
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inferior to god so it's it's this idea that we all worship one like we don't worship false idols
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we don't worship men prophets we don't worship humans because we're all equal there's it's not
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possible for us to like the way you go to a concert if you go to rolling loud everybody is
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essentially worshiping the person that's on stage they're screaming their their minds out they're
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losing you look at the people in the crowd when you look at a concert they're like they're literally
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freaking out as if they're looking at an idol um and that type of worship is is completely forbidden
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that's the number one sin in islamish shirk is is worshiping anything other than god uh even in
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medina for example when you can go to the prophet's grave they have somebody there specifically to
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deter people from because people will like fall to the floor and like start crying over the
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grave that's not you're not supposed to you're supposed to like pay your respects and then move
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forward because we don't worship men we don't worship any anything that's um that's equal to
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us so i would say the idea of uh tawhid oneness none of us are particularly religious and can you
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like convince us why we should become muslim or even pick up any religion i think the the structure
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you know, people naked running around in the streets
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or you see, you know, the minor attracted people.
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the person's not going to know because then how are you going to judge somebody else's opinion
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so you have to look at a specific book a rule book to decide okay well is it right for wrong
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let me look at the book and say do you think humans have an inbuilt moral system though that
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they're born with or they get from their parents maybe yeah but if mine like a serial killer has
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a different moral system than yours so if we if we ever go by human's idea of right from wrong
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then we can go to destruction immediately and then people start twerking in the streets but
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you know i think there's something innate like if we you know natural selection would have bred out
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that want to kill each other otherwise we wouldn't be where we are today there were societies that
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they rolled heads down pyramids like that was accepted because they didn't have they they
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so why did they do that because that one guy said it they started worshiping a dude who said we're
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going to roll heads down this pyramid down yeah we'll bowl them down and give a sacrifice and
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we'll do blood rituals yeah so or like people there's still societies in like rural pakistan
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in the forest where they eat each other you know there's cannibalism going on because one dude said
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we should eat each other and like okay because that was his innate feeling you can't ever go
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based off a human's innate desire for anything because humans are imperfect but islam is perfect
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islam is a perfect religion we all believe that we all believe that that muslims aren't perfect
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we strive to be the best we can be but we will never be perfect because humans have free will
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and when we have free will we're corrupted by our own desires and our own we're all going to
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be corrupted to some extent, but all we can do is do our best to, to be as good as we possibly
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can be to serve God and to thank him for creating everything. What's your biggest imperfection?
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That's a good question. My biggest imperfection is, I think now would be trying to decide how
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much am I speaking for, for the, the benefit of, of the viewer or how much am I doing it for,
00:22:26.940
for mental masturbation what output do i have in the universe that's good and what output do i have
00:22:32.320
that's self-serving right like how do i spend my time that's going to be helping other people
00:22:36.140
helping the future helping my family or am i just doing it to satisfy something internal so let me
00:22:40.800
pose that question to you then it's an everyday struggle um last night for example um we were
00:22:46.280
working all night and then i decided all right i'm gonna go to the club and you're not even
00:22:50.300
supposed to do that okay but i went because i wanted to serve myself for a bit i wanted to
00:22:54.980
turn my brain off i wanted to operate around a bunch of like dancing uh drunk retards and just
00:23:00.260
kind of just be around that environment um to make myself feel good i was like standing in the club
00:23:04.760
like yeah like feeling like the man and obviously like kind of reap the benefits of the fact that
00:23:10.300
people know who i am um that stuff feels good but it doesn't really have a return on investment
00:23:16.660
it doesn't help anybody but like my myself and my ego in that moment and then always the next day
00:23:22.180
you're like I didn't need to do that it's an in the moment thing now because uh you're thinking
00:23:27.660
internally what would you say to people that say you converted for the clout and obviously that's
00:23:33.420
not what I'm saying but there's a lot of people out there in the comments that would say you know
00:23:37.020
Andrew Tate's done it we've had Alfie Best on the podcast um who's also converted and there's a
00:23:41.700
certain degree of attention you get for like converting to Islam it's it's actually better
00:23:46.740
and I was talking about this last night when I was like halfway in between Christianity and Islam
00:23:50.620
it's way better for the stream because then you get all the christians and all the muslims
00:23:54.120
constantly trying to like pull you into their side and you're more you know you're more general
00:23:59.600
and you're less divisive now people kind of see this like oh like i'm kind of i wouldn't say trap
00:24:04.840
but that's how they see it i'm kind of trapped here where if i ever slip up to any extent like
00:24:09.420
i'm gonna go to the club haram like all right like you can't do that if i play a song you're
00:24:13.900
like yay hypocrite like they kind of like they got me in a gotcha moment at all time for stream
00:24:18.780
it's terrible to be a Muslim to IRL stream you can't go you can't gamble you know all the streams
00:24:24.180
are always in the casino you can't gamble I can't gamble on stream uh I wish I wouldn't promote
00:24:27.720
anyway but you can't do that you know you can't even you can't free mix can't can't be around
00:24:32.120
women you can't talk to girls you can't you're not allowed to play music there's there's the list
00:24:37.140
goes on and on like if you're actually going to be a perfect Muslim it's the worst stream content
00:24:42.440
ever because the things that are entertainment are snaking of each other drama you know going
00:24:47.080
to concerts rap like everything that's a sin is more entertaining that's what people are drawn to
00:24:52.520
that's what people like but i guess there's a certain level of attention you'll get as well
00:24:55.860
by being the person that's oh i shouldn't do this because it's around but the stream say i'm doing
00:25:01.240
it am i gonna do it am i not do you know what i mean there's a level of interest from an audience
00:25:05.560
of we're watching you now to try to get me it's much easier to to do a bunch of drugs to go in a
00:25:12.340
club and just be a degenerate but for them reasons why did you revert them like if you're not ready
00:25:18.280
for the muslim life why didn't you maybe save this for five years wait until the the streaming was
00:25:22.500
done that's what an e-man says doesn't he i'm gonna wait yeah maybe in the future five years
00:25:26.700
or so that would have been a great decision um in some in some ways but i just i don't think that
00:25:31.600
you can like once you know in your heart what the truth is i don't think you could procrastinate it
00:25:35.920
for money or fame i just don't think that's that's the morally right thing to do i think i had to
00:25:42.140
turning point uh last summer during a debate and i realized like oh this is the truth and i started
00:25:48.500
procrastinating it for a little bit but i felt it in my heart and that's the reason that i know
00:25:53.700
there's a lot of influencers that do that um quite a few and they say that they're going to put it
00:25:57.720
off the like they're not going to pray now or they're promoting things that go against what
00:26:01.660
they believe in um and they're they're going to put it off for the future but what if what if you
00:26:05.560
die tomorrow like you don't know like nothing is decided so also surely it goes against the point
00:26:11.280
of doing it exactly you're then putting your selfish purposes above god right 100 it's really
00:26:18.900
it goes against the the entire idea so i just couldn't put it off anymore i'm like this is
00:26:23.320
i feel this in my heart and what's more important than anything that i could do on social media
00:26:28.980
is that i can make it to heaven so um i i had to obviously sometimes i joke around with with
00:26:36.780
the team i'm like i should have put this off because like there's so many things you can't do
00:26:39.460
But I don't think there's anything that's more important than following God.
00:26:44.720
I feel like with religion, there's a lot to know.
00:26:46.920
Like, and if you're not religious before and you haven't been brought up in that life,
00:26:49.860
it's very difficult to understand the words and the way things are done.
00:26:52.780
So what sort of processes are you going through to make sure that you understand the religion
00:27:02.300
I speak to the, I mean, I just came back from Mecca for a couple of weeks.
00:27:06.000
I speak to a lot of sheikhs, and Abu Taimiyah was really good.
00:27:10.220
Actually, it would be good on the podcast, Abu Taimiyah.
00:27:12.040
These people are really interesting people to speak to because they have so much knowledge that we're not even tapped into.
00:27:16.460
Sheikh Uthman, these people, I have a lot of these conversations.
00:27:19.460
And when I'm with them, I just spend time to listen, to learn, to pray as much as I can, to read the Quran.
00:27:26.100
There's so much knowledge, and there's so much more that I have to learn.
00:27:29.940
To even fully understand the Quran, you have to speak Arabic.
00:27:34.940
there's so many like for example shake with mine i visited his house in san diego he has an entire
00:27:39.320
library the size of this living room filled with books everywhere there's never you're never going
00:27:43.420
to learn uh everything so but it's good to be they call it a being a student of knowledge constantly
00:27:49.320
trying to seek out as much as you can um obviously it's not as interesting for for the stream um
00:27:54.800
seeking that truth you know a bunch of arabic books and and old um islamic books but it's
00:28:01.080
knowledge that um it's knowledge that's more valuable than anything on on the internet yeah
00:28:06.160
i think it's cool for people to follow your journey of becoming a muslim and you know learning
00:28:10.140
all this information obviously a big talking point in the red pill community is the matrix
00:28:15.000
and obviously that's all about control how do you feel about religion controlling you because
00:28:21.940
that's the problem i have with religion right i mean you have to decide for yourself what would
00:28:26.280
you rather control you would it rather be your your own desires would you rather be the government
00:28:30.920
would rather be the the influences that you know they all worship satan or would rather be a
00:28:36.480
religion that believes in god and you can look at the ideas and what they what um about the
00:28:41.780
christianity for example or what it stands for and it's it's all good things you know what what
00:28:47.260
christianity islam stand for it's community it's being a good person there's a cot in islam for
00:28:52.760
example you're supposed to donate 2.5 percent of your wealth every year everything that it does
00:28:56.260
there's rewards you know if you are being righteous it tells you to tell the truth tells
00:29:01.500
you to do business relationships the right way things like interests that's forbidden you're
00:29:08.080
not supposed to take advantage of people like financially it tells you to be an honest person
00:29:11.680
like everything that islamic christianity are about they're all like very positive things so
00:29:15.820
i think looking at is like what would i rather because you're going to be controlled by something
00:29:20.160
anyway always humans are always going to be influenced by something because we're imperfect
00:29:49.460
They actually go to those rituals in the forest.
00:29:57.760
But I know these people that go to the meetings
00:30:13.300
that there is like a devil that they are worshiping
00:30:17.660
Or do you think it's all a load of voodoo rubbish?
00:30:23.220
So why doesn't God just kill the devil if he's so powerful?
00:30:26.660
Because God, they need each other to exist in a certain way.
00:30:38.760
I can go deep into the jaw and about how Jesus is the Messiah
00:30:43.140
and he's supposed to come back and defeat the jaw.
00:30:46.060
It goes deep, and I'm not the perfect person to talk about this,
00:30:52.260
that's why humans have free that's why we're imperfect is because we have the decision to
00:30:56.480
follow good or follow evil um so you need to to have both you said at the start of this discussion
00:31:03.420
that you've bought your first investment property today yeah did you get a mortgage on that no i
00:31:08.860
bought it all cash uh the halal way nice all cash i wanted to do it the right way obviously you know
00:31:14.160
i'm not perfect but i'm trying to do to do business the right way this is something that people never
00:31:18.520
talk about because i just um i i'm with rumble you know i'm continuing with rumble but i was
00:31:25.560
offered 15 to like literally word for word um i was offered 15 to 20 million dollars to to gamble
00:31:31.440
on a certain website 15 to 20 million i got whispers in my ear just take just take the deal
00:31:36.360
it is nuts in it that is crazy imagine you get a call like just take it just but what's going
00:31:40.800
through your head in that moment because part of you is presumably going well i'm going to consider
00:31:45.520
rate it's 20 million dollars of course i did of course i did but it didn't take me that long i
00:31:49.240
was on the i thought about it for a little bit i was like no i can't do it i can't do it i took
00:31:53.580
considerably less um to stay where i am obviously i love rumble free speech is extremely important
00:31:58.880
almost constantly under attack and they actually stand for something and you know chris is a great
00:32:04.080
guy rumble is you know they're really fighting the battles right now i can i can go into detail
00:32:08.320
about everything they're doing but it wasn't that hard of a decision you know i i believe in uh in
00:32:13.680
doing the right thing and i wouldn't be able to sleep at night properly i think i would have
00:32:16.740
nightmares and i wouldn't be able to look at myself in the eye um the right way and i'm not
00:32:22.240
trying to criticize people to do like i understand like it's it's great money it's i i understand why
00:32:26.540
people do it but i i couldn't uh i couldn't physically do it why does the gambling make
00:32:31.200
you feel so bad though because i've seen on streams many times that you're always kicking
00:32:34.420
it with only fans girls and things like that and if i'm young and impressionable and i watch your
00:32:38.120
stream then there's a high likelihood that i'm going to go and subscribe to this girl's only
00:32:41.200
fans which is arguably just as bad for me as gambling right and i hang around people that
00:32:44.900
gamble too yeah but i tell everybody that gambling is bad the people that that get the gambling deals
00:32:49.320
they tell people here sign up and go to the gambling site when i'm around the only fans
00:32:52.960
girl i tell everybody every single day i start the stream do not watch porn do not subscribe to
00:32:57.020
only fans only fans is the devil do not do this i do talk to them but i don't promote them i'm
00:33:01.480
i'm saying specifically i'll tell them to their faith tell these girls like what you're doing is
00:33:04.380
evil so is there a sense of kind of like dangling a ball of wool in front of a cat and going don't
00:33:09.700
touch the ball don't touch the ball the cat still sees the ball and the cat's going to want to see
00:33:14.300
the ball because you're dangling it 100 it is promotion to some extent but at the same time
00:33:18.020
so is everything on the internet and you can even argue that just by being on a website like
00:33:21.380
youtube that you're promoting it because on the trending pages other girls i do get it and i think
00:33:25.240
you are in a bit of a weird limbo where you know you have your career which also you want to put
00:33:29.760
first and you have to do a certain amount of marketing and content and things work and then
00:33:33.740
you've got this other side where you're trying to find that moral balance so i can see that it's
00:33:38.240
like a difficult thing to probably get perfect you're never going to be able to get a perfect
00:33:43.320
and there's nobody in content creation that is perfect because even then if you put ads on your
00:33:47.360
youtube videos you're getting like completely evil things that are you're making money off of evil
00:33:52.440
things all the time um so everybody is complicit to some extent and i don't really think it's worth
00:33:57.620
like um cherry picking it but i think specifically saying taking a deal saying um you need to gamble
00:34:03.580
this much it's literally just to convert your audience and telling them do this too like people
00:34:10.020
who support only but they're saying subscribe to my only fans they're saying do sign up to they're
00:34:14.740
telling the people that look look up to them so i think influence is very important you know what
00:34:19.200
message are you leaving uh are you leaving with your your audience and people know exactly what
00:34:23.300
i stand for people know exactly uh as i repeated every single day i repeat these mantras um but
00:34:28.860
you're you're you're right that that that is a hypocrisy there and that's the that's the problem
00:34:34.000
with this game is that you're never going to be able to to be perfect until until you get out but
00:34:39.260
you know you you can do you can only do as best as you could possibly do how has your relationship
00:34:43.840
with tate changed since the last time we were talking together um in las vegas because obviously
00:34:48.740
he's had a go at you for this whole only fans promotion side of things we don't speak um as
00:34:55.640
much anymore obviously i think that they should be free i think they're innocent and i have a lot
00:35:00.880
of respect for the for both those guys um tristan says positive things he says he sees me as a as
00:35:05.960
younger brother and he wants to to lead me in the right direction um obviously i still want that
00:35:11.660
party you know yeah i remember that from last yeah and i never it's it's okay they're they're
00:35:16.200
facing um problems that are one day one they've been busy haven't they yeah much bigger than a
00:35:21.260
party i i but the point is um they they're they're in a whole different position because
00:35:27.740
you know when we we first heard about them they were kind of in the same sphere as us but they've
00:35:33.760
kind of they've graduated haven't they they are now on um almost a political pundit level and they
00:35:40.440
don't really need to be streaming consistently they don't need to be in the the social media
00:35:43.760
circle anymore they've kind of um left their impact on the on the world people know exactly
00:35:49.560
who they are what they stand for what they're about what they believe in and they don't need
00:35:54.000
to to be constantly consecrating like that they're just in a different spot right now um he uh andrew
00:36:01.320
said that he wasn't speaking about me specifically um so yeah i don't i don't have there's no beef
00:36:07.440
whatsoever why did you decide to clap back when you heard him say what he said because i think it
00:36:12.720
wasn't specifically about you was it it was just maybe you felt like it was directed at you it
00:36:17.300
seem to me like you put your foot in it a little bit because anyone could have clapped back you
00:36:20.500
know it could have been aiden that clapped back it could have been hs that clapped back but you
00:36:24.640
were the one that did it maybe other people did and i just don't know but it just seems like maybe
00:36:28.240
you put your foot in it a little bit i think i think the word clap back is a little bit of an
00:36:31.740
exaggeration yeah listen to what i said i just kind of addressed it yeah and um if i'm gonna be
00:36:37.600
honest i'll say this on this podcast i talked to um it's fine time has passed i talked to angie
00:36:41.800
right before that and he's like oh it's fine g i wasn't talking about you it's just like oh you
00:36:45.660
know talk about it you'll get views clicks are good clicks making money talk about it you know
00:36:49.200
you could even he's like you could even like yell at me attack me it's good it's good clicks i'm
00:36:52.500
like yeah you know it is like it's a good clickbait and so i kind of played into that um but i didn't
00:36:57.140
really say anything like all i said was you know blah blah blah blah just yapped and then you know
00:37:00.960
but that's the game that's the game you know people using each other's um names for money but
00:37:06.120
um he gets it and there's some people that that uh get completely involved in and some people
00:37:12.000
that you got to understand that there's a healthy a healthy level of fake drama and fake beef that
00:37:17.740
can benefit everybody but that's why we called it clap back we're trying to get them tiktok views
00:37:21.140
right yeah that's like a shade room type uh word but yeah i understand i understand what's going on
00:37:29.620
in the the streamer world right now because speaking of drama and and all this type of thing
00:37:34.420
i feel like it's an absolute mess yeah what's happening what's your opinion on that irl kind
00:37:41.040
of life i think it's already fizzling out uh it started off authentic and like anything anything
00:37:48.020
that starts off good it becomes oversaturated and lame and corny it kind of reminds me of like the
00:37:52.420
2012 youtube days when jake paul and logan paul were coming up and they had all the houses and
00:37:58.160
team 10 it's it was kind of like the today's version of that madness except it's happening
00:38:03.500
even faster now that lasted like maybe a year or two this is like two months and it's already
00:38:06.840
yeah and then it always like you know logopah i don't mean to bring this up all the time but it
00:38:11.220
always ends in something like a suicide force like when you when you get that bubble this all
00:38:14.920
this insane one it up every single day it always has to be something that like completely destroys
00:38:19.420
it and then people move on and we're starting to see that with irl and i promise you it's going to
00:38:24.060
be something kind of like that too who do you worry about most in that space i think you know
00:38:31.600
my answer um i i wish the i wish the best for neon man i i saw his i saw him get i'll say the
00:38:39.460
way i saw him neon get corrupted really quickly and i just hope that he he comes back to so you
00:38:46.240
know i yeah i've talked about it so much i don't want to um to keep talking about it you know but
00:38:51.080
i wish the best for him i don't want to sound ignorant but where did that neon guy come from
00:38:55.880
because i know he's absolutely popping now but for me and my tiktok feed it was just like he
00:39:00.340
doesn't exist and then just all of a sudden this guy's popping like where did he even come from
00:39:03.580
what what is the story because i'm genuinely interested yeah you just saw him pop up out of
00:39:07.960
nowhere literally just out of nowhere because i guess we don't like i don't know about you guys
00:39:11.820
i've never watched a stream just watch clips but we just see the clip so we kind of get the
00:39:15.820
aftermath of what's going on yeah the the live viewers don't really matter it's all about clips
00:39:20.000
so he um came from gaming world like we all did i came from gaming as well and then just picked
00:39:26.000
more traction um started streaming with uh really aiden really took a i would say aiden like blew
00:39:31.600
him up and then he ran with it but i just you know this happened it's not just neon it's like
00:39:38.620
it's everybody that gets sucked into that world if you let fame and views dictate what you're
00:39:42.320
going to do it's all it's always going to be negative and forgive the ignorance because again
00:39:47.140
i'm just genuinely intrigued what is he doing that worries yourself and though you know others
00:39:53.400
that care about him around him when i talk about this see what happens is like his fans his community
00:39:58.060
said that you're oh you can't keep your his name out of your mouth his name so i don't want to come
00:40:01.480
off like i'm like um cloud chasing using it but you're asking i mean i think it's one giant only
00:40:06.160
fans funnel i think like his entire stream is just sent like his actual fans like his core
00:40:11.840
they just end up subscribing to his his fake girlfriend's only fans so does he have a like
00:40:18.060
a stake in their only fans accounts and he gets paid a certain amount of money when they subscribe
00:40:22.600
um is that the whole massive the massive funnel he's got all these girls like an only fans
00:40:26.880
management agency or something no he doesn't so i think one of the i think his girl is um
00:40:32.720
one of jack doherty's girls isn't it yeah yeah yeah what do you think of jack
00:40:37.840
i was there when they um when he first started that relationship uh we went to that house i
00:40:44.600
didn't really uh know too much about it i showed up and he had like an only fans poster in his
00:40:49.280
room like okay i get it and then there was this party and it was all fake and like everybody there
00:40:53.060
was just trying to clout chase and like get a clip and i'm like i left um and then i left and
00:40:57.120
then he started that relationship like i left the party right away i saw what it was um yeah i mean
00:41:02.020
it's just guy works hard but it's um it's just there's nothing positive yeah well for the record
00:41:08.260
he's not clout chasing we're from the uk we don't use tiktok every day we are genuinely interested
00:41:12.320
yeah i could talk to you about it more but i just like i went see i'm in this world where if you
00:41:17.300
oh look at you using your name for clips like you know it's it's it's it's a whole corny world like
00:41:22.300
this whole bubble is is just but it's gonna burst soon like i give it maybe two three months and
00:41:27.580
then these people like you're not really gonna they're gonna have to shift directions why do
00:41:32.100
you think um streaming has become so popular because personally i just watch youtube videos
00:41:36.480
and i don't bother watching these live streams or really i don't watch tiktok much at all but
00:41:41.680
why why has it become such a thing because it's real because now because it's faster you talk
00:41:45.980
about the the clout era in 2012 2013 this is just the most instant the internet has ever been
00:41:52.620
youtube videos you have to edit it you know this is the most real it's it's like being on a facetime
00:41:57.240
with somebody you could interact with them now you could send a chat and they read it in real time
00:42:00.760
you could communicate with these people uh you can literally have an impact on their lives you
00:42:04.760
can influence them so it's the most real thing and everything always has it always becomes faster
00:42:09.780
first it was movies then it was tv shows then it was youtube videos now it's streaming and the
00:42:13.640
Streaming is the most instantaneous piece of content ever.
00:42:17.340
For example, when you say I clap back or whatever,
00:42:19.280
I'm on a live stream, someone clips it up, it's posted, done.
00:42:32.740
I think it's the best way to do content nowadays.
00:42:42.800
because we manage youtube channels behind the scenes and maybe two or three years ago the big
00:42:47.780
thing was how can we up the production so much and make this like a movie and now we've had so
00:42:53.360
many discussions haven't we about with the channels we work with how can we make them
00:42:57.540
more raw and simple and almost like it hasn't been professionally edited and i guess that's
00:43:02.520
an extreme version the live stuff of that kind of realness that shift that we're seeing in
00:43:07.440
content overall yeah it's like the beastification of youtube i don't know what what do you think
00:43:12.000
of mr beast content and people that are trying to do all of these watch time strategies because
00:43:16.460
they used to be so big back in the day but now i look at them and i think just so corny i don't
00:43:21.120
want to watch because you're clearly trying to make me watch the whole video right right people
00:43:24.800
are aware of the trick uh once people become aware the the magic goes away so something people
00:43:30.500
always want something that's genuine i guess even the streaming things yes it's real because of how
00:43:34.880
raw it is but it's still all fake and presumably eventually people are going to kind of wake up to
00:43:40.260
that as well and go well they're not actually together that friendship's not real that fight's
00:43:44.840
not real same thing right but that's the thing with live streaming is that it's equally real and
00:43:49.420
equally fake because at the same time like even though you could have somebody that you have all
00:43:55.160
this drama and beef with and that you don't like both of you are still benefiting off of it which
00:43:59.040
is why it's really unnatural because uh in mark's age when you have beef with somebody both of you
00:44:04.440
like you it's a net loss for both people it's a mental drain it's all this but being stressed out
00:44:10.040
being angry all these things you can now profit off of negative emotions it's it's really kind
00:44:14.800
of twisted if you think about it like it's almost you're you're rewarded uh for being a bad person
00:44:20.020
because people want to see what's going on it's more engaging when there's drama during the stream
00:44:24.300
when people are yelling at each other and hurting themselves you to entertain the viewer is more
00:44:29.120
glued to the screen do you think it's possible to grow and build a brand in that um i guess
00:44:34.160
lifestyle influencer space by without getting involved in all that crap you could kind of um
00:44:41.960
i think i did i think i kind of uh floated on the outskirts i i think i've done a very good job
00:44:49.020
of staying authentic and genuine saying myself and that's how i've stayed in this game for so long
00:44:55.780
i've been doing it for 11 years and i'm the only youtuber the only one who got banned over a year
00:45:01.500
ago and became more influential and became richer and the only person that can really that lost
00:45:08.000
everything and like I'm still I'm still here uh and it's it's by staying by remaining yourself
00:45:14.560
and not trying to to switch up for trends like obviously like right now the a lot of people want
00:45:19.120
to see more drama you know I read the my twitter community the love speech community and they want
00:45:24.060
me really badly oh go yell at him go press this person go do that but I don't listen to that
00:45:28.900
because it's not me uh so I've done a good job of like kind of and some people say I'm uh they'll
00:45:33.560
say the word grifter because I'm like floating in and out but I just think it's you know going with
00:45:38.220
the trends while also staying yourself and remaining genuine and and getting involved but
00:45:43.140
not not to the extent where it completely consumes you I can see that when you got banned from
00:45:48.520
YouTube what tactic did you put into place to make sure that you didn't just die off and that
00:45:55.520
you did stay relevant? I didn't have much of a plan. If I'm going to be honest, like I didn't
00:45:59.600
do enough preparation beforehand, even though I saw the signs coming, I just trusted. I always
00:46:03.600
trusted that because I'm me, because I'm real and authentic, the audience is always going to be
00:46:08.240
there. I got, I'm not worried. I don't need a specific website because I've been being myself
00:46:13.760
for so long. They're going to find me. I never had that fear because I didn't have to do any
00:46:18.700
gimmicks. I didn't have to promote anything negative. I was just always just speaking my
00:46:22.860
mind as as as authentically as i possibly could and i i actually do take a lot of pride in that
00:46:29.060
like the other day like after i got that investment property i was really thinking about it like
00:46:32.000
i'm banned and i did this i'm not you're not supposed to do that i still have these plaques
00:46:35.620
in the wall i was thinking about taking them off because this platform people call me a youtuber
00:46:39.060
like especially when you're saying i people criticize you for reverting to islam for clout
00:46:43.300
the islamic pages be like youtuber sneeko i'm not a youtuber you know people will use that title
00:46:48.100
like oh aren't you that youtuber like i'm the only can't even upload yeah i can't even i even
00:46:52.460
now I try to like go and watch a video. I can't see the comment section because my account is all
00:46:56.920
messed up. When I want to watch a movie, I need to sign it to my friend's account to go and rent
00:47:00.520
the thing. But I'm the only one who really was able to not only maintain relevancy, but transcend
00:47:06.040
it and become bigger. And I think that's a testament to how important it is to remain
00:47:10.800
authentic and genuine and not really be afraid too much about your image. If you read the 48
00:47:16.820
laws of power, everything that I've done kind of goes against that because the 40 laws of power
00:47:21.480
is trying to play chess in a certain way with people's minds
00:47:24.080
and put yourself up as a specific guru in this figure
00:47:31.240
you don't show moments that are at your low point,
00:47:35.780
You come off as the person that knows everything
00:47:47.440
Everything that I've done goes against the principles
00:48:17.460
because when you get banned and you lose everything,
00:48:19.660
I put 10 years, like a decade of like blood, sweat and tears into that website. I remember
00:48:23.980
talking to you about that last time, blood, sweat and tears into this and they took, they wiped
00:48:27.340
everything. Like to this day, I was trying to, um, show somebody last night, a short film I made
00:48:32.300
and I, you know, I have to go to like weird, like I have to find it like on an alternative channel,
00:48:37.500
like somebody who stole the video. I need to show my own work stolen because they, they, they took
00:48:42.380
it away. Um, so if anyone watching, I think it's extremely important to maybe don't try to be a,
00:48:50.880
what do you call it? Um, not Machiavellian, um, dark try. I don't try any of these techniques
00:48:56.260
to that extent. Uh, there, there is, you can be really successful by remaining true to yourself.
00:49:02.480
And I don't think people, um, give credit enough for that because it's easy to fold because when
00:49:07.020
you get that criticism, when people will first leave that negative comment, you're like, oh no.
00:49:10.800
and you start to build up a wall but I've always been receptive of that I've always like like having
00:49:15.200
that relationship with the audience. Speaking of authenticity we spoke or you spoke last time you're
00:49:22.240
on the podcast because you're a friend of the show now about one of your passions which is
00:49:27.280
filmmaking and you're obviously very talented and creative and you were saying that there was maybe
00:49:32.300
a part of that that you did miss how do you feel about that now is that something that you're kind
00:49:36.140
of dipping your toe into a little bit again? Yeah I recorded this I can't wait I need to
00:49:40.320
my team keeps making fun of me. I need to finish the video that I made in Mecca because it's one
00:49:43.940
of my best in a long time. I recommend you guys watch it when it comes out. I think you'll like
00:49:47.380
it. But I never saw streaming as something that I was really that, like it's fun. I love the
00:49:52.680
community. That's the best part of it that I have, like the love speech community and the regular
00:49:57.500
viewers. I recognize the chatters. I love that aspect. But streaming, I don't ever think of
00:50:01.260
myself as a streamer. And I kind of see it as a job. I clock in my hours, get paid, but I'm not
00:50:07.420
going to do this forever uh i don't ever see myself doing it forever and i was probably like
00:50:11.560
two three years tops and then the goal has always been when i'm 35 get into making my own production
00:50:18.160
company you know first i have to make enough money to do it because i think i've burned a lot
00:50:22.300
of bridges and said a lot of things where i can't work in hollywood so i have to do it myself and so
00:50:27.480
i want to have enough money make my own production company make my own movies and how have you burnt
00:50:30.980
those bridges though i think uh the you know talking about the powers that be that will that
00:50:36.600
will prevent you from working the devil worshipers yeah the satanic worshipers and you know saying
00:50:41.660
things like free palestine things like that that will you will burn a lot of bridges and i hear it
00:50:46.240
every single day like even when i collaborate with somebody that's big in the la space they'll
00:50:50.160
get articles written about them from a place like media matters immediately trying to like
00:50:54.500
put a divider between me and them it's like nope this guy's bad and they're like oh i want to i
00:51:21.400
It's not, you don't need to go to a production company,
00:51:28.160
and i wanted to bring that same aspect of film well hollywood's in fucking shambles anyway at
00:51:33.340
this point so it might be about the right time for you to jump in it it sucks yeah i know i know
00:51:37.540
my dad was a massive fan of your videos back in the day so i think it might be time to do it to
00:51:41.700
switch out you can give sneeko some compliments ladies and gentlemen mr mark tilbury is in the
00:51:49.740
house so dad what did you think of sneeko's videos back in the day how you doing mark why
00:51:56.400
did you like them so much very good sneaker it's good to see you again uh full holiday mode as you
00:52:00.560
can see at the moment i wasn't meant to be coming on um what did i like about them um i think the
00:52:05.940
best way to describe them is they were probably some of the only videos on youtube at the time
00:52:10.780
that were fully cinematic you know you captured the essence of what you wanted to show and i didn't
00:52:18.060
want to watch it once twice maybe three times maybe four you just wanted to see it again for
00:52:23.060
me that was great and that's a talent you've got and you don't lose talent i've said that to you
00:52:27.220
before it becomes rusty just rusty you can polish rust yeah and then you're okay again yeah i think
00:52:33.600
there's more fear doing that now um than before but yeah i did we need to this is the year i'm
00:52:39.780
gonna get back um get back into it what's scary about it that that was the best work i did i think
00:52:47.080
like all those videos that he's talking about like it just uh it shits on all the the streams
00:52:51.780
the streams are fun like it's very now but they're not they don't last forever you know it's it's an
00:52:56.400
i think a lot of the videos that i made are timeless uh i could think back to a lot of them
00:53:00.540
like fake it till you make it 20 years old these videos i i think will will last forever and even
00:53:05.960
though um they're banned on youtube those are something that that i want to like if i had had
00:53:13.800
a funeral thing i would play them on the screen you know yeah because you don't get that anywhere
00:53:17.700
else there's no other creator you could see your old videos and know that you produced it even if
00:53:22.440
your face isn't necessary on screen just from the style yeah and you're not going to lose that style
00:53:28.580
either you know you that can only get better you might procrastinate about it which i think you
00:53:33.580
might struggle with for a little while but once you put your next video out there take the mecca
00:53:39.880
one for example i think you'll find your your place again i've been back in uh for mecca for
00:53:45.860
like a week or two and i just been i'm so nervous to do it because it's like that's what i'm actually
00:53:49.680
like passionate and good about um put my some of those videos i genuinely like put my like my heart
00:53:55.380
and soul into so yeah i like speaking to you guys because like you really want to make me want to
00:54:00.220
to get back into that but yeah most people don't even i really know about those videos do you fear
00:54:04.660
that your current audience that you've built up through this other side of content won't necessarily
00:54:09.540
resonate with that type of thing if you start putting it out i don't really care like if it's
00:54:13.480
good then that's all that matters i don't care how many views it gets like if it's something that
00:54:17.860
really means something to me i think eventually like some of the best like martin scorsese movies
00:54:22.320
were negatively reviewed by critics when they were first put out and then afterwards people
00:54:25.620
uh start to to understand them i think the best works the best pieces are people don't understand
00:54:31.020
it immediately they get it later on because it's something that that doesn't really fit with the
00:54:34.880
narrative now and it's not as instantaneous as all the other garbage that's uh that's being put
00:54:38.220
out and they also find a new audience for you as well right because there's a whole audience out
00:54:42.600
there that hasn't seen what you can create exactly it doesn't matter i think it's almost
00:54:46.460
like a different demographic like you obviously don't watch my streams but you watch those videos
00:54:50.060
so it's it's for it's for the people that that that want it but the crazy part is i had this
00:54:55.440
realization with um with rice gum i don't know if you know him um i remember him back in the day
00:55:00.740
when he was doing all those diss tracks of ksi right he seems to have just fallen off no he's
00:55:05.040
not falling off he's killing it on a rumble right now yeah yeah yeah i haven't seen anything rice
00:55:09.300
Ricegum can fuck off for 10 years and come back
00:55:12.300
I never quite understood why he was so popular, though.
00:55:17.100
That might be controversial, but I didn't think he was very good.
00:55:21.600
He's good at the instantaneous type of content.
00:55:23.500
But the actual rapping, was that meant to be good?
00:55:37.120
but no it's funny you're like um sneaker's biggest fan coming on i'm interested from
00:55:43.020
an older perspective what do you think of like live streaming that and that whole world like
00:55:47.700
from listening to our conversation just now well for me it's very hard to follow live streaming i
00:55:52.520
find uh i've got enough going on in my life that i don't need to follow someone else's life
00:55:57.280
um but as you said it's almost like um it's almost like a soap opera for people isn't it
00:56:01.960
um if you've not got a lot going on in your life and you can have that playing in the background
00:56:06.420
of whatever you're doing be it at work or at play or whatever it is you feel involved within that
00:56:12.640
life i think they become your friend yeah i just haven't got room for that yeah it's obviously not
00:56:17.860
but it's um kids will do it and it's good like mindless entertainment the the messed up part
00:56:23.620
about it the reason i bring up rice gum is that he was bringing up uh he's like he knew all the
00:56:28.520
the drama like he knew like oh remember that text message about like oh that didn't this uh person
00:56:34.700
try to stalk you and I'm like how do you know all this but he hasn't seen any of my videos like he
00:56:39.820
knows all the negative things and this is the streaming world is that they'll just try to like
00:56:43.580
oh because that's what gets amplified is all the whatever is going to be like whoa all the
00:56:49.240
spectacle but he hasn't seen any of the videos like is it I had this moment like he knows all
00:56:53.500
the bad things but I put 10 years into these videos that you like and he has no idea about
00:56:58.060
any of them but that's um that's why I want to get out of this world you know that's why I see
00:57:03.300
as a job i think that's also a reason why you're struggling you said earlier on the pod because i
00:57:08.720
was listening that you you find it hard to find friends from say 25 onwards um i think uh when
00:57:15.300
you're 25 onwards you're better at finding friends um and what i mean by that is you don't find 10
00:57:21.200
people within a year that you call your friends you might find one you might not find one that
00:57:25.280
year but you find better friends as you go on from 25 so don't cut yourself to the only people you
00:57:30.700
have friends with now because you'll find some great friends in years to come i think it's mostly
00:57:35.080
women do you agree with my take on that i think it's women will not genuinely love you after that
00:57:40.560
it's more it's about because before then when you have that puppy love that high school type thing
00:57:45.360
it's like they love you for just you just show up and like they they can fall in love with you
00:57:50.000
you don't have anything you're broke you don't know anything you can't go anywhere you're eating
00:57:53.480
ice cream and like you're just sitting down they love you yeah the only trouble is as a guy you
00:57:57.480
change so much from 18 to 25 that if they do puppy love fall in love with you at that age
00:58:03.840
I don't think they're going to be with you whereas when when a woman falls in love with
00:58:08.200
you from 25 onwards once you've built that empire I think as long as you do love them
00:58:13.160
that's going to last and that's a good point in your life what age do you meet mum I was about
00:58:19.340
24 25 yeah do you think she'd be attracted to you if you didn't have your empire and your money at
00:58:24.940
the time um yeah yeah yeah well you know i didn't have any problems on that scene i did to be honest
00:58:32.720
i never wasted time trying to attract women never bothered just came to you well it just turned up
00:58:38.100
i'm not gonna say it's that easy at the ice skate rink well it was um but you know it wasn't that
00:58:43.840
easy but you know if you're not chasing something i always find it comes to you anyway you know
00:58:49.000
because you're put you're there aren't you i think if you if you're chasing it becomes desperate
00:59:03.980
I find too many youngsters work at it nowadays,
00:59:19.360
I think it's a lot to do with building a personal brand, right?
00:59:22.600
when you go out they know who you are already and you know that's very attractive because you've got
00:59:26.920
that status how important do you think it is for you know the everyday guy to start building a
00:59:31.740
personal brand in order to market instead of sell to these girls on a night out i mean it's never
00:59:37.440
been more important uh to have that and it's almost kind of like an effeminate quality to
00:59:42.420
have a personal brand and have clout because it's like getting attention but that's just uh one of
00:59:47.180
major currencies nowadays and that's that's how everything operates for example um i mean you're
00:59:53.620
not supposed to confess your sins but went out to the club last night and i get it to the club for
00:59:57.280
free because i'm me right and then i get to the best section because the promoters want to have
01:00:02.660
me there because it makes them look cool the girls see that they see by proxy okay this guy
01:00:07.320
and i i don't have to like all these guys i remember before i like have to do pickup new game
01:00:12.140
and nagging and all this stuff and try to do tricks and stuff like that to get it now it's
01:00:16.480
like i'm here and like they're like oh okay they understand 30 steps that a regular guy like without
01:00:22.380
any sort of personal brand like i immediately uh can just skip the steps she knows i'm not creepy
01:00:27.720
she knows i have money she knows i'm somebody that's of value and then bing bam boom like
01:00:33.140
it's not hard and obviously that's not the only reason that you want to build a personal brand
01:00:37.840
and get clout but um that's just uh one of the perfect examples because if that works with women
01:00:44.040
to think about like business relationships i get so many things for free like i get to go to
01:00:47.920
to venues for free i get to people want me to to travel places and just show up like it's it's
01:00:55.760
never been more i highly recommend everybody build every young man build a personal brand
01:01:00.260
because that's just how people are always going to judge you to get through the door if you have
01:01:05.400
to have a certain level of followers you need to have a public rapport and everything is is online
01:01:10.020
nowadays. And if you're spending six to eight hours online, I don't understand why you wouldn't
01:01:14.080
have any source of revenue on social media. Everybody should be making money on social
01:01:17.860
media. If you're spending time scrolling, it should not just be consuming. There should be
01:01:21.840
some sort of creation aspect. Even when I'm scrolling on Twitter, I'm downloading information
01:01:26.160
that I could say on a stream or I'm learning things. I'm getting updates. I'm seeing how
01:01:29.920
other streamers are working. I'm seeing what's working, what's not. I'm not really wasting any
01:01:33.480
time. That's why I use that idea, active income, because people like promote this idea of passive
01:01:38.140
income that you, you could just sleep and then money's being made. I believe that like all the
01:01:42.420
time, every waking moment you spend should be an investment into the future to some extent.
01:01:46.600
So even if I'm, uh, relaxing or getting a massage, for example, I'm preparing myself so that I can
01:01:52.480
train harder in the gym and then my mind's ready. And then I'm able to work harder. Like everything
01:01:56.360
that I do, every conversation that I have at dinner, everybody that I'm around, it's always
01:02:00.160
to learn more information or to have, to learn something that I can put into my business.
01:02:04.620
it's always an investment into something i used to um say to my son quite a lot because obviously
01:02:11.020
i've come from a different era and i used to say to him because he's sat with his computer
01:02:15.100
doing research son are you just taking the piss yeah yeah really taking the mick because i used
01:02:20.800
to think he's just on youtube he's just on youtube all the time well actually i've got well i've got
01:02:26.220
eaten my words haven't i because actually it was research and that's what now i do in my spare time
01:02:32.000
i'm on youtube you know looking at your videos i went when i could find them yeah you know so it is
01:02:37.360
it is research and it is very very important and with everything you've said as well
01:02:42.060
building a personal brand and working on yourself and everything else the great benefit from that is
01:02:48.180
you become a confident guy and i think being confident as well is also one of the key things
01:02:53.960
right i didn't grow up confident my confidence i think as a man your confidence comes from your
01:02:59.300
accomplishments and what you bring to the table 100 so for guys that are like i think that even
01:03:03.080
the word introverted is just horseshit i don't believe in any of that like shy don't believe in
01:03:08.400
that i think it's just not being fully confident in yourself and it's because you haven't accomplished
01:03:12.720
enough yet so i used to be that introverted dude i didn't really talk that much i used to like kind
01:03:16.640
of sit alone at lunch and then as i started becoming more uh accomplished and i had some
01:03:20.920
well what it was is building my personal brand which is funny like that the game black ops 2
01:03:25.220
10 years later i started playing it last night with my team we started streaming again that's
01:03:28.620
what i started this whole youtube thing on my dad used to hide the game because you're wasting your
01:03:32.340
time you're wasting your time well i wasn't i was always trash i'm still trash but what i was doing
01:03:36.940
is i was starting to to learn how to uh to make videos on it i used to do gameplay commentaries
01:03:41.240
put my camera in the corner and then i'd play and then at the same time and i would i'd be making
01:03:45.400
videos on it it was always an investment and as i started doing that as i started like working on
01:03:49.180
something when you have something to work on you have something to talk about you know you have
01:03:52.440
something before i started doing that i didn't really have anything to say in a conversation
01:04:31.020
It's like, well, back in the day, I'll tolerate it so I can be with her.
01:04:36.180
Don't you find it annoying, though, when they're like, yeah, my life is going wrong
01:04:39.200
because of this star colliding with this or whatever.
01:04:44.120
Your life's shit because, you know, you've done shit stuff.
01:04:47.300
But I'm thinking that, but I don't say it because I'm trying to sleep with her.
01:04:54.700
and the more she's talking the more she feels attracted to you because she feels wanted because
01:04:58.340
you're listening so that's just how it is but men don't get the same courtesy so if you're not doing
01:05:02.780
something that makes sense nobody people stars you're fucking dumb stars you have to work on
01:05:08.880
something you need real experiences and you alluded to that a bit with the travel as well
01:05:12.940
particularly with your trip to mecca and various things the more you travel the more worldly wise
01:05:17.720
you become the more lessons you can learn and again adds to that confidence i've done the most
01:05:22.940
amount of traveling i've ever done this year great isn't it yeah i was just gonna ask that
01:05:27.060
what uh what did you learn from your travels because obviously you went to loads of different
01:05:31.160
countries didn't you for free because yeah yeah the british team uh flew you out to all these
01:05:35.000
different places what did i learn i i learned that you can learn something from every different
01:05:39.720
culture right um in the states every state is different it's unbelievable and people think
01:05:46.040
they've been to america from the uk they haven't they've been to orlando and that's it i still
01:05:51.220
have events all of america yeah and that's the thing is it's all very different and i think you
01:05:55.080
only learn experiences from the people you meet and the people you meet are the ones that change
01:05:59.500
your mind and your focus and what you're interested in and one thing again i like about you sneco is
01:06:05.760
you're a developing guy you know you're not afraid to change and develop as you learn different
01:06:11.680
things and i think that's quite brave but it's also a very good play as well because you can
01:06:16.900
keep an audience you can keep providing for that audience but eventually that audience will get
01:06:22.500
bored now they might criticize you when you change but when you change you bring in a whole new
01:06:28.000
audience you're changing as a person and you're upgrading when we met eight to nine months ago
01:06:33.740
i i don't want to criticize you but i found you a little bit lost and you weren't the person i
01:06:39.220
thought you were um but you were it was just lost it's not lost anymore you're now you found yourself
01:06:49.040
And I think it's only an older guy that can say that
01:06:51.200
because I can look at my son and see when he's developed
01:06:54.120
And I don't think, I don't think as a young guy,
01:07:03.180
I think I was just, that was a, that was a difficult time.
01:07:15.600
uh still learning and then people expecting a lot from you uh being a role model but also still
01:07:22.020
having role model like it was just it was just all over the place and i'm definitely more more
01:07:28.260
grounded now 100 yeah i'm just i'm just um i'm more focused than i've ever been i'm ready to
01:07:35.100
just ready to keep on building and um i'm thinking about how i could prepare for fatherhood this
01:07:40.820
is like the most amount of traveling i've ever done sorry you guys have traveled a lot this year
01:07:44.060
too but thailand twice japan i was in europe went to romania went to spain went to columbia
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uh mecca where else we got morocco japan twice just in japan is a whole new ball game isn't it
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it's completely what a place yeah amazing yeah we were talking about this um i think it was earlier
01:08:03.480
today there's so many people springing up teaching like financial knowledge on youtube but they you
01:08:10.040
know they're just in their bedroom they've never experienced the world whereas our real usp with
01:08:14.840
with your channel is you can talk about all these different experiences all that life
01:08:18.800
lifelong lessons and i always think the trouble with it yeah the trouble with experience is you
01:08:23.180
end up looking like this somewhat older um 65 you're not too old i'm not 65 i'm 56 come on
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come on let's be good about it i'm just saying what um sneaker said earlier
01:08:32.860
it's being cheeky but anyway you mentioned earlier that everyone should make money on
01:08:41.920
social media if they're spending time on it and everybody is spending time on social media yeah
01:08:45.480
so how can the average person make money on social media what's the best player at the moment
01:08:49.720
i think that if you're somebody like if you're a live stream viewer i think clipping is the best
01:08:55.340
way to go and obviously we teach that in active income but that's the quick because if you're
01:08:59.920
watching it it's not hard to press screen record and then add gameplay and then first you need to
01:09:04.720
figure out how to do captions properly how to figure out what's going to go viral uh when to
01:09:08.280
clip at the right moments when to figure out what the punctuation is uh but it's it's very simple
01:09:12.060
and you know how to title it properly this is that's the best way that you could really make
01:09:17.180
uh some money with a tiktok creativity program uh it's just not hard at all i think that's the
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quickest way but there's so many there's so many ways like people on amazon uh we teach high ticket
01:09:29.100
sales. Like if you just think about a content creator, how many people you need behind the
01:09:32.640
scenes, uh, from managers, from people developing merch, uh, the different types of editors. Like
01:09:38.940
we teach editing as well. There's, uh, there's countless, there's countless ways. If you just
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learn all the backend, just think about look at your favorite content creator. Think about like
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what he needs. You just actually just analyze it. I don't, I don't know why more people don't do
01:09:50.300
that. The people that just sit around and then like consume streams. Why don't you just look at
01:09:54.860
this person? I would do this in a second. What do they need? Like, what are they lacking? And
01:09:58.520
then how could you add that and then it's easy to get in contact with any of these people not hard
01:10:02.540
at all email them and then boom like just show them give them a little bit of value and say if
01:10:08.200
you want more this is how much i charge and you got a job it's that simple uh that's how i have
01:10:13.140
most of my team it was through active income so if you are doing that right now you're watching
01:10:17.300
you don't know what to do think about your your favorite content creator and then and then work
01:10:21.180
from there but most people do understand it i think everybody who's actually really making
01:10:24.700
money right now has at least two or three sources of revenue from social media and it's just going
01:10:29.080
to keep keep growing i think people have this this like scarcity mindset where they think that oh is
01:10:33.160
it too late there's like billions and billions of people and so are you kidding me is this this is
01:10:38.080
just getting started uh so it's never too late to start and then definitely way too early to quit
01:10:45.120
so we mentioned your rental property um that you bought what's your portfolio look like at the
01:10:50.100
moment in a hole all right so i have that the first investment property um got a good amount
01:10:56.000
of crypto not too much i used to like play with it up and down more um not sure how much you guys
01:11:00.240
are i just kind of let it sit we've let it sit pretty much i mean we've been very very lucky
01:11:05.460
we've sort of sold at peaks or at troughs all in early you know it's been very good for us but
01:11:11.340
we're just sort of sitting and we do our investments uh together yeah absolutely 100
01:11:15.360
percent bitcoin and ethereum mainly but nothing else bitcoin ethereum i don't do any of the
01:11:20.720
coins i don't really try to place my time on that it's kind of like gambling in a way and i just
01:11:26.400
i just think it's a waste um it's a i don't think it's technically considered gambling but i just
01:11:35.440
rather not do it you know how do they look at investing in general is that allowed yeah
01:11:39.520
Yeah, because it's not interest, it's growth on a stock.
01:11:44.540
There seems to be a bit of disagreement because we talked about this with Muhammad Hijab
01:11:52.580
but there's not even a comment on that I know it shouldn't be invested.
01:12:01.540
I think people get confused because the people I see in your videos
01:12:06.340
yeah well compound interest is the effect of the growth it's not technically it's not
01:12:12.200
what do you think about that company of investing and you know having loans behind the scenes
01:12:25.180
and you're technically involved that but you are part of the company i i don't personally do any
01:12:32.140
stocks so i mean i have some stock um from i was given but i don't i don't do that so if it is if
01:12:39.820
it's gray here i'd rather just like stay away from it but yeah i have i have my crypto got that
01:12:44.320
investment property and that that's my my probably not that huge you know do you have any angel
01:12:51.080
investments you mentioned stock that was given to you is that in rumble or something like that
01:12:55.360
i can't really speak about that too much but you know several companies i'll tell you um off the
01:13:01.380
podcast not angel investors but you know how it goes what are you most excited for in the next
01:13:07.100
five to ten years the next five to ten years i think 10 is a long time but the rate sneaker
01:13:13.020
changes and moves up and learns i think you might want to limit to the next year well the reason i
01:13:18.140
ask is because one of the first things you said on this podcast was that you're always thinking
01:13:21.660
five to ten years in the future i'm thinking about how to prepare myself for five tens of
01:13:26.280
years in the future i don't know what's gonna to happen i think we're gonna hit a really big
01:13:30.460
change in the world, especially after the next election, depending on if Trump wins or Trump
01:13:35.820
doesn't win, that's really going to dictate where the world goes. I think more than people are
01:13:40.600
really talking about. And it's just, I think either way, it's going to be really ugly in a
01:13:48.220
lot of ways. So I'm just preparing the best that I can possibly prepare. I don't think it's ever
01:13:55.820
been as crucial to be rich as right now but i i don't know what am i what am i excited for i'm
01:14:02.540
excited to i'm excited to have kids i think i'm getting i'm almost ready but first you have to
01:14:06.980
have a wife and you know i think before you think about being a father you have to be a good husband
01:14:11.320
and definitely preparing for for that but i'm excited i think i think i need like i thought
01:14:17.200
that i'd have kids by now i'm 25 but maybe 27 28 we'll see thanks very much for coming on the
01:14:23.740
podcast where can people find you nowadays uh you can see me at rumble.com slash nico and we have
01:14:29.760
activeincome.com uh you can sign up early now december 9th is dropping there you go with the
01:14:33.760
rumble um the rumble plaque i don't know what to call it quarter of a million i think it's a dead
01:14:40.160
weight in it it's very heavy it's a weapon it could be it could be a weapon yeah and where else
01:14:45.300
you find me yeah just sneak on social medias and you might see me around might not cool awesome if
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