In this episode, I sit down with my good friend and fellow podcaster, Charlie Kirk, to discuss American politics, the current state of the country, and much more. We talk about Charlie's political journey, and how he has dealt with the backlash he has received from his political opinions.
00:01:35.660Or he's a punk or, you know, like it was somehow a bad thing.
00:01:38.700And I mean, I'm like, I'll talk to anybody.
00:01:40.820You know, I've always been of the mind that I'll talk to anybody.
00:01:44.040If they have a political disagreement, I might even be more willing to talk to them, actually, because usually that can be fun, especially for a political debate or a show or a live stream.
00:01:54.100But no, I didn't I just didn't expect I didn't expect people to to have a negative reaction to that.
00:01:59.400But it's just everybody, you know, and that's and that's one thing that I've learned in the political media where it's just like if you do an interview with somebody, you know, somebody is going to come after you a year, two years, five years later.
00:02:12.940And it's like, oh, my gosh, you interviewed this person.
00:02:24.160Regardless, even if they say something you disagree with, I think people need to move on from this digital footprint, cancel culture idea where it's like, OK, one time he said something I disagree with.
00:02:33.220And that's what I like so much about Charlie Kirk is that he would you would speak to people that he disagreed with.
00:02:37.260And it's time to just grow up a little bit and realize like everybody in politics right now, everybody with a voice.
00:02:42.480Everybody has said something that will have people upset and angry.
00:02:46.640So to think that you can't communicate with them simply because of that fact is ridiculous and is against American values.
00:02:53.420Well, it's like, you know, it's like the public forum, the way people share their thoughts now.
00:02:58.540It used to be, I guess you'd go to the local watering hole, the bar and drink with your friends and talk shit.
00:03:04.520But but now everybody just does it online.
00:03:07.260And so it's like, yeah, I'm sure there's things that you go out with your buddies with, you know, maybe have a have a couple of drinks or something and you say some stupid crap.
00:03:14.700That doesn't mean it's supposed to get, you know, held against you for the rest of your life.
00:03:18.620But it's kind of like that's what the Internet has turned into now, where people just spew their their stupid garbage, their trash talk on the Internet.
00:03:25.300And then it sticks forever. It's not in a little private square. It's it sticks forever.
00:03:31.480Do you have a different perspective now seeing what has transpired?
00:03:36.140Obviously, I'm sure you've seen, you know, what has taken place in the legislation passed since then.
00:03:41.220But since the day of Charlie Kirk's assassination, have you reevaluated?
00:03:44.720Are you talking about with that as the context?
00:03:49.720Well, I think to to go to bounce off your point, I have definitely reevaluated how I'm going to speak to different people and engage in conversation and debate.
00:03:59.360I had a similar I have a similar show to Charlie's debate show called The One Minute Podcast.
00:04:04.340And it's like, I probably shouldn't do this for a while.
00:04:06.280And I've been I haven't been strictly attacked before, but people have thrown water and, you know, I'm sure you have to have security.
00:04:12.060Yeah, I have a security guard. But, you know, how much could that really if people want to charge up or if they are really insane, something could happen.
00:04:19.880You know, it's definitely security has regardless. Yeah.
00:04:22.940I'm wondering if you have reevaluated or because you're in the same boat.
00:04:29.600Well, I would say after this assassination, I did cancel public events.
00:04:36.360I did have some public speaking events that have that have been canceled or at least postponed.
00:04:39.980So I'm sure I know there's a lot of other people in the political community that have that have taken similar action for obvious reasons.
00:04:47.480But before before that happened, I had already kind of had that realization.
00:04:53.580I think I'd already been through that learning curve.
00:04:57.280And, you know, I kind of already made a decision that I wanted to start communicating differently and that I kind of wanted to take take my broadcast into a different direction.
00:05:07.760And so I had I kind of already had that realization that it's time to find a new way to communicate.
00:05:13.660And that doesn't mean you're it doesn't mean you're not being honest.
00:05:16.520It doesn't mean that you're selling out.
00:05:18.560It doesn't mean that you're not going to tell the truth or still cover the hardcore news, as you always did.
00:05:42.420And I kind of look the other way to it.
00:05:43.840You know, the doxing and the getting people fired from their jobs like, you know, I'm not going to do it, but I'm going to look the other way.
00:05:49.260I'm going to look the other way when they're doing it, because you know what?
00:05:51.840It goes both ways, and they didn't start it, but that's just kind of the world we're entering now.
00:05:57.240And when I got into the political world, I mean, I guess you could say I knew that what I was doing was going to be to a certain level a little dangerous, right?
00:06:09.960I mean now, though, speaking your mind in politics, now people are just outright scared for their life.
00:06:16.620You know, it's not like a, it's not like a, hey, okay, I'm kind of taking a risk here, and here's the risk factors, and here's what I might have to deal with.
00:06:24.120Now it's, as you're saying, do I even want to go out and do a stream in public tonight, or am I ever going to come home if I do it?
00:06:33.640Which I think now is an important time to show face in public more.
00:06:37.180I mean, the other day I was out of public.
00:06:38.820Today I was out, there's a San Gennaro, this Italian festival.
00:06:41.900I was out there all day today shaking hands, talking to people.
00:06:44.440So, and it is a reminder, because I have been, you know, the paranoia's risen.
00:06:49.000It's a reminder that most of it does exist online.
00:10:01.020I didn't get to watch your video yet, but you posted a six-minute video called People Aren't Believing the Official Narrative.
00:10:08.380And I think I'm in the same boat as you, and that's why I was very interested in calling you today, is because I'm not.
00:10:14.360I'm not believing the official narrative.
00:10:16.120I had a call with Dave Smith yesterday, and he said, I think he slowed down his rhetoric a little bit.
00:10:20.740I think he, I'm not sure if he went back and forth with you, but it was with Ian Carroll.
00:10:24.160Basically, I think at first he was calling people a crazy conspiracy kook if they didn't believe the official narrative.
00:10:29.820And during that call, it seemed like he was starting to see, because my point of view, I'm not sure what yours is.
00:10:36.940My point of view is that it's very likely if we're going to find one nation who's capable of assassinating foreign officials and get into other countries' affairs, I think we know what country that is.
00:10:46.700So I'm wondering why you're not believing the official narrative.
00:10:50.740Well, let's just go from the narrative itself.
00:10:53.060Let's just go from what we're getting from the government first.
00:10:55.920To me, it doesn't add up because there's too many missing links.
00:11:00.720Like, we know that there were probably, I mean, let's be conservative, 20 people filming that, maybe 50 cameras rolling when this thing happened.
00:11:09.980I mean, so the fact that we're getting a lot of weird, grainy footage is very strange.
00:11:14.900The campus, the Utah Valley campus, had just updated their security cameras, apparently.
00:11:20.600So that whole campus was basically security camera in the zone.
00:11:25.460There's very, there's probably very few spots on that campus, at least outside, I would say, where you didn't have at least one or two cameras on you.
00:11:31.960And somehow we get one weird angle of him coming off the roof.
00:11:37.760Where's the video footage of him going on the roof?
00:11:39.840Where's the video footage of him in different clothes?
00:11:42.340So obviously video footage is being hidden from the public.
00:11:45.180I don't, I don't think that's even a conspiracy theory.
00:11:47.140I think, I think you can say that with, with pretty much complete confidence.
00:11:51.080What about the camera that was behind Charlie, which was an HD camera, I believe, that his team was using for, for an HD shot from behind that I'm sure they use like a panoramic view every time they do it.
00:12:03.800You think that camera would be pretty important considering that would be the one in HD that would capture the actual shooter on the roof, taking the shot.
00:12:24.020But, you know, I talk to people that shoot and they're experts and I talk to veterans that know their stuff and they, then they have questions that, that make sense to me.
00:12:34.320Where's the blood splattering from an exit wound?
00:12:36.600Um, if it was the caliber of bullet that the official story claims it is, then there should have been probably a bigger hit, uh, than we saw there.
00:12:45.040And then I think too, just, just from, just from watching it, it's kind of instinctual.
00:12:49.580Like, man, that, that, that looks like a professional hit and that just looks like a professional shot.
00:12:54.460And from what we know, it doesn't sound like this guy was some master marksman.
00:12:58.520Now, again, some people say, oh, anybody can make that shot.
00:13:01.160And others say, no, that's a tough shot.
00:13:02.780Well, well, I say, here's a guy who took one shot and hit that's, that's what I saw.
00:13:09.220And, and it hit right where you would be a fatal shot.
00:13:13.680Now this would be a little conspiratorial, but I would even go a little farther to say that maybe somebody wanted it to be right there.
00:13:19.360So it would sit there and, and spew blood like that.
00:13:22.400Now that's a little conspiratorial, but again, I, I watched that and it just, it just screams professional hit.
00:13:27.560Now, okay, they're claiming this is some, I guess, left-wing, I don't know, some, some, some guy that just decided he wanted to do this.
00:13:35.260Maybe he was involved in some of these new groups that we see coming up online that are kind of left-wing LGBTQ types of peoples that I, that I guess feel left out of the world.
00:13:44.240And, and so they're all kind of just stewing in their own little online zones.
00:13:47.580You know, that's kind of where they want us to go.
00:13:49.700Now I find it strange that just two weeks ago, the very same FBI that is telling you that this shooter was tied into the trans community, the very same FBI just two weeks ago at the school shooting was trying to cover up that it was a trans community individual.
00:14:13.800The official narrative doesn't add up.
00:14:15.220And, you know, for, for, for an event, this big, I also think it's hard.
00:14:21.080And again, I don't know if this is something that is legitimately coming from your subconscious or it's just because the world is so crazy.
00:14:27.840You can't take anything at face value.
00:14:29.600I kind of struggle with these things sometimes.
00:14:32.540But you just think, you know, Charlie Kirk, that's a big, that's a big name.
00:14:36.580This is a guy who would be eligible to run for president in the next election.
00:14:41.040This is a guy who's really, you could argue, the most impactful on college campuses when it comes to conservative politics.
00:14:48.140So it's not, you know, it's not a minor figure that some guy might just have a beef with.
00:14:52.560You know, he did have private security.
00:14:54.060He knew that his his life was in danger.
00:14:57.120It appears now from some of the clips that we've seen gone viral and some of the conversations he was having behind the scenes.
00:15:02.600So I think that all of those things combined just tells me, no, I don't buy the official narrative at all.
00:15:08.680I don't buy the official story at all.
00:15:11.140Now, I'm not saying that there might be real stuff in it.
00:15:14.920You know, there might be some real stuff that they have, but but it's not enough to convince me of the official narrative.
00:15:21.860And so then as far as the other angle that everybody talks about, the number one angle is the Israel angle.
00:17:26.500We remember Netanyahu bragging about the pagers.
00:17:29.280We remember Mossad bragging about how they get hundreds of intelligence, intelligent agents and assets penetrating top level governments and intelligence agencies.
00:17:38.340I mean, they're basically bragging about how they can do whatever the hell they want.
00:17:41.240So then it's like all of this circumstantial evidence starts building and all of a sudden, OK, here we are talking about Israel again.
00:17:48.620So, you know, if I'm a gambling man, I don't even know what what I would bet on at this point.
00:17:53.860I would probably bet that it was a left wing terror attack.
00:17:58.040If I had to if I had to place a bet, I'd say the odds are on that.
00:18:01.280I'd say it's close, but I'd still say the odds are on that.
00:18:04.400But I laid this out earlier and I want to get the exact.
00:18:09.000I had a list of four things that that I'm convinced of at this moment.
00:18:16.360There's four things that I'm convinced of and I'd be curious to see if you agree.
00:18:21.360But the four things I'm convinced of as of this moment is one, he was shot directly in the neck.
00:18:26.980I get a little pushback on that, but I believe that I think so.
00:18:29.580Two, there was some level of prior knowledge.
00:18:32.180There's enough activity online to suggest that there was some prior knowledge that this was going to happen or something was going to happen.
00:18:39.000Three, the official story doesn't add up too many key elements missing.
00:19:06.380We're more informed and educated on these things than ever.
00:19:09.100And so they can't do it in real time on us anymore.
00:19:12.260It's just not going to go down like that.
00:19:14.460That's very fair, especially Charlie Kirk said that Epstein worked for Israel, which you're not supposed to say.
00:19:19.800If you look at the Trump administration, they say if you Trump said himself, if you still want to see the Epstein files released, I don't want you in my support base.
00:19:28.000If you're going to say, fuck you, that's it.
00:19:29.720That was not mentioned by Netanyahu when he talks about how much of a promoter of Judeo-Christian values he was, how much of a friend of Israel he was.
00:19:38.680Charlie Kirk said Israel was sexually blackmailing American politicians to get their undying allegiance to them.
00:19:44.140That is a major, major allegation that was a conspiracy, a crazy conspiracy theory five years ago.
00:19:51.020Also, when we bring up the patsy that was there at first, remember when everyone thought it was this old guy who was there saying, arrest me, arrest me, kill me.
00:19:57.780Many that's unreal. They're saying that this was an Ashkenazi Jew, but this is the state of Utah when there's only like 10 Jews in the whole.
00:20:06.860Well, so so so here's so here's a means to go back to a theme from earlier.
00:20:11.060This is this is one of those times where for me, I'm going to communicate this differently and I'm going to say, I don't care if he's Jewish.
00:20:18.920It doesn't matter to me. I'm going to say, why does this individual seem to be at all these major events in U.S. history?
00:20:24.900And how does he always seem to be on camera at all these major events? Right.
00:20:29.940So I know people want to do the whole Jewish angle and find whatever you get free speech.
00:20:34.100But I do think at a certain degree you are turning people off when you do that, because they do buy into the anti-Semitism thing and they do buy into this idea that somehow if you're not pro-Israel, you're an anti-Semite.
00:20:47.580So you have to accept that that's the world that you live in and you can still go, you know, full guns a blazing on the issue.
00:20:53.420But I think you're going to turn a lot of people off and you're not going to be able to communicate what you need to communicate.
00:20:58.140That is a very important anomaly that this guy was somehow there distracting law enforcement at this event.
00:21:05.400He seems to get on camera at all these major events.
00:21:07.300And I think somebody came out and said, oh, we didn't we didn't arrest anybody, you know, as far as the investigation is concerned.
00:21:14.400But that guy actually was arrested for for disrupting law enforcement.
00:21:19.100He actually did get arrested for obstruction.
00:21:21.920So, I mean, why did they just forget about that?
00:21:24.780Doesn't seem like an insignificant thing.
00:21:27.760He must have distracted so many officers that were on scene and so many of the first responders.
00:21:31.680And I think one of the most I think what we can look at the most, because all this is speculation, obviously, I think you're on the same page as me.
00:21:38.260We have no strict evidence that it was Israel or that it was another that it was intelligence or anything.
00:21:43.520We can't we can't rightfully say that.
00:21:45.580But what we can look at is what has happened, what has transpired in the past four days.
00:21:49.140Just today, the state of Israel on Instagram posted that they are proposing a new idea called the 50 states, one Israel project where they want to break.
00:23:02.500So if he can immediately blame it on Marxists working with radical Islamists, then me questioning who's doing this and what countries behind it is equally as kooky.
00:23:11.800Because this is the narrative that they use to justify going into war in the Middle East after 9-11.
00:23:16.260Netanyahu was the one, the same guy who went in front of Congress and said they have weapons of mass destruction.
00:23:24.180So the war was based off of a lie, a pretense that Netanyahu came to America with.
00:23:29.060When he does that again and says that it was radical Islamists, it's time for us to take a step back and you're not going to lie to us twice.
00:23:53.720We were distracted with another major event, obviously.
00:23:57.000But, you know, once you kind of go through that process, that window, that thought pattern that you just went through, I think is inevitable for people that can do critical thinking.
00:24:07.320That linear timeline of events, it's like, oh, yeah.
00:24:11.020OK, we were lied to about September 11th, spent $21 trillion in Middle East wars.
00:24:15.820We were lied to about the weapons of mass destruction.
00:25:55.460And then this is where they kind of reach the higher geopolitical conclusion that, oh, all the enemies that I'm told I have are actually Israel's enemies.
00:26:07.780In the populist movement, I'm glad you brought that up.
00:26:10.500That's very clear that they're, I think, afraid of where it's going to go because they're losing a lot of the core Trump support base.
00:26:16.240Today was a good example where J.D. Vance substituted Charlie Kirk's show with Tucker Carlson and talking about the assassination and about recent events.
00:26:25.900And I think the fact that they're speaking so much about Israel's involvement, and they even did speak on that show about Charlie Kirk's opinion of Israel,
00:26:33.460it shows that they're willing to speak about the subject much more than before because they're aware that the populist movement cares more than they ever have.
00:26:43.340What were your thoughts on that J.D. Vance-Tucker Carlson conversation today?
00:26:48.700Well, I'll tell you what, aside from what they said, let's let's look at what this represents.
00:26:56.240Apparently, and this is from multiple people reporting this, apparently Tucker Carlson was a subject of discussion with Charlie Kirk because he was platforming Tucker Carlson at his events, as well as Dave Smith and others.
00:27:10.360So I think from what we can read from some of these reports, it seems that there was a lot of pressure for Charlie not to do that.
00:27:18.840And I don't think I don't think anybody can deny that at this point.
00:27:22.400And actually, and this is kind of more of a hidden gem that was discovered on X.
00:28:13.780It seems to confirm the context seems to confirm that Shapiro and Levin or actually maybe more Levin.
00:28:21.200I don't know how much Shapiro knew about this, but Levin, who is in the Trump administration, by the way, and it goes to Israel almost every month or week.
00:28:28.560Even Levin seems to imply that there was a meeting where people in the big conservative, the big money conservative movement were having questions about Israel and behind closed doors.
00:28:41.720Some people weren't too happy about it.
00:28:43.340Now, again, you hear that on September 7th from Levin and Shapiro.
00:29:00.960Now, again, does that confirm anything?
00:29:02.460No, this is all circumstantial evidence.
00:29:04.800But, OK, you leave you leave the Charlie Kirk assassination out of the equation now and you realize something inevitable, which actually Charlie has said before.
00:29:25.900And, you know, some of them you can buy off.
00:29:27.980OK, some of them you can buy off and you can send them on the fancy trips and you can bring them to Israel and clink the glasses and tell them they can get the donor money.
00:31:02.180I didn't vote for him, but I complimented him and I congratulated him for for winning because he had the balls to be on that stage and say, actually, I'm going to stay in New York City, which is, you know, what you whatever you say about him.
00:31:12.400That is the most patriotic America first position to be like, actually, I'm not going to go fly and kiss the wall and get spit on like Brandon Tatum.
00:31:18.080I'm going to stay right here and put New York first, which I love to see.
00:31:22.600And but I mean, obviously, the, you know, abolishing the police stuff.
00:31:25.260And there's a lot that that needs work on his campaign.
00:31:28.600And I hope he goes in the right direction.
00:32:06.460And I think now now I think the people that were kind of sleepwalking or now the people that were just so confident that this gravy train was going to continue, the military industrial complex, the foreign aid, the U.S.
00:32:18.100Israel Alliance, they were just so confident because it's never been checked in a very big way that that that that result was shocking to them.
00:32:25.340And now it's it's hitting them like a tsunami and they just don't know what to do.
00:32:30.560So aside from the Kirk assassination and any involvement people suspect there, there's no doubt the Israel issue is going to be the number one issue, probably by the 20, I would say 20, 28 presidential elections.
00:32:41.980And you're going to have to be on the we're done supporting Israel side, I think, to win.
00:32:50.400What about the cancellation and censorship?
00:32:53.040I'm sure you've seen the discourse is getting pretty violent.
00:32:57.100Well, I wouldn't say violent, but pretty angry on the far left and the far right calling for censorship of people advocating for violence or for support or for celebration of death.
00:33:08.940Where does this fit into the core fabrics of free speech in this country?
00:33:12.880Well, when the left did it, the right wing obviously had a problem with it.
00:33:18.580And so a lot of people are calling them hypocrites for now engaging in the same behavior, which I'd say is fair.
00:33:25.040I'd say it's fair commentary, but I'm not going to engage in that commentary.
00:33:29.200I'm going to I'm going to look the other way and I'm going to say, hey, you know what?
00:33:32.480You flicked you flicked this guy in the ear when you flicked the horse in the ear one too many times.
00:34:38.760You have the establishment right and then you have the new right and you have the establishment right, which will never let the new right in.
00:34:45.820Because they refuse to stop talking about Israel.
00:34:48.400Again, just go listen to the Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro clip.
00:35:10.920But ultimately, what's going to really change the country when it's so bad, Sneeko, when it's so bad that the average person just doesn't even know how they're going to get by anymore?
00:35:20.440Because, you know, you want to talk about crime in the inner cities and there's all kind of different things that we can talk about and statistics and demographics and fathers and, you know, all the stuff that gets thrown into that conversation.
00:35:32.760But, you know, the one important aspect that gets conveniently left out but is also very important is poverty.
00:35:38.880When you live in poverty, you're a desperate person.
00:35:42.040And when you're basically into such a state of poverty that you have to commit a crime to survive, well, what do you think you're going to do?
00:35:48.920And so the more – the worse the economy gets, the more we see other foreign issues and foreign entanglements and everything else get put ahead of our issues and we can't even fix a damn pothole and our taxes keep going up and the cost of living keeps going up.
00:36:05.340Once you cross that where life is too hard for people, that's when you'll really get some change.
00:36:11.160That's when people will really rise up.
00:36:15.800I'm just talking about when it comes to what's really going to save this country, what's really going to change this country, it's clear to me now that they're never going to let somebody get elected that's going to do it.
00:36:26.280I don't know if we can ever have enough people in Congress to stop the corruption.
00:36:30.820You know, I think we've kind of gone through that process as good as we can in the last, let's say, eight years.
00:36:35.900And we've learned that it's just like, geez, no matter who we get in there, nothing really changes.
00:36:40.960So there's going to have to be some form of an internal unification factor and then a mass revolt.
00:36:50.120So maybe we decide we're going to stop paying taxes.
00:37:39.820Two years after COVID, I moved to Florida because of the COVID restrictions.
00:37:43.580But the violent crime has not been bad, especially in Manhattan, has been relatively safe.
00:37:49.260I think people are surprised when they see videos of people dining outside.
00:37:52.420The major, from my anecdotal evidence, the major problem here is the wealth gap, is the wealth disparity.
00:38:02.200The amount of people that are not able to buy homes anymore.
00:38:06.380The amount of debt, the average debt in Gen Z is something like $94,000.
00:38:09.640If you see just like, if you walk around here, I don't know the last time you've been to New York, the amount of single beautiful women walking around is literally like astonishing.
00:40:22.240That's not the average American's experience right now.
00:40:25.360The average American's experience is living paycheck to paycheck.
00:40:28.380That's the average American's experience.
00:40:29.760You're not going to sell them that the economy is good.
00:40:31.840And then you try to sell them how we have to support Israel all the time.
00:40:35.880Well, they can barely support their family.
00:40:37.340So they're not going to really take kindly to hearing about how we need to support a foreign country as well.
00:40:42.100And then on top of that, when that country is at war with seven, seven countries that they've attacked, I think in the last month, yeah, you know, now you're really starting to tick people off.
00:40:52.520Including our ally, which they just completely swept under the rug and moved on.
00:40:57.240They—that was—the news cycle is going so fast now.
00:41:00.360I didn't even get to ask you about Irina, the Ukrainian girl on that bus in Carolina.
00:43:58.780You know, part of me says, like, there's part of me, part of me that likes to learn and grow says, hey, go do it and just do it for one session.
00:45:15.700No, I think, you know, if I give kind of a – if you have a longer-term understanding, and I think that what I go through politically actually reflects, in many ways, the average American, or you might even say the normie that just gets politically informed.
00:45:30.380I was probably net positive on Israel for the entire first Trump administration.
00:45:37.240I wasn't really big into Israel, didn't really cover it, didn't really care, was never really on my radar.
00:45:41.260The only time it would ever pop up is when people would spam you, you don't – you're covering for Israel.
00:45:46.680You are an Israel shill, because I wouldn't really talk about it.
00:47:21.440And now, all of a sudden, I have this holy war, this thousand-year-old, thousands of years old, this holy war in the Middle East is now in my backyard.
00:47:44.160Netanyahu coming to Congress for four decades telling us to go to war in the Middle East, giving us bad intel every single time Americans go die.
00:47:51.080Not a single Israeli was in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
00:47:58.820And so, okay, now all of a sudden you're looking into this stuff, and then what's going on in the Gaza Strip, and now Israel's striking seven different countries, and now Israel's getting us to bomb Iran and save their ass again.
00:48:30.200They're trying to stab us with the sharpest knife in the kitchen.
00:48:32.860And so that's where it feels like we're at right now.
00:48:35.300Now, as far as what I want to do, I got great advice when I was younger entering media from a big mentor of mine, and he said to find a void and fill it.
00:48:46.660Well, I'm a consumer of political media.
00:48:48.660I'm a massive consumer, and what I've learned is that the well is dry.
00:52:03.500So what motive would Israel have to – so if they knew about October 7th, which obviously we could figure out why, it's because they wanted a justification to go and ethnically cleanse Gaza and expand the greater state of Israel.
00:52:26.600Okay, so let's just – this is a purely hypothetical thing, so we're getting into hypotheticals here.
00:52:32.040But I would say – I would ask this question.
00:52:36.060Did Charlie Kirk tell anybody he wanted to run for president, and who did he tell?
00:52:40.780Did Charlie Kirk tell anybody he wanted to run for president, and who did he tell if so?
00:52:46.460And then I think the other thing would have to be – I'm not going to say that I know all the inner workings of how political funding and everything works because at Infowars we really are completely separate from that.
00:52:57.680So I may have had my own professional differences with Alex, but it's totally independent, okay?
00:53:05.580We don't have to grovel the donors, and I've never really – I've never had to deal with that.
00:53:09.880Now, I know people that have, and I've seen a little bit of it firsthand, so I can say maybe enough to kind of understand.
00:53:17.880But I don't understand the real weight of whatever TPUSA was up to as far as – Charlie obviously was getting tens of millions of dollars, maybe hundreds of millions of dollars.
00:53:27.660I mean, so this is – I mean, this is big money stuff.
00:53:31.340And I think Charlie maybe – I think he's probably a really good guy, and maybe when he kind of got involved in it, perhaps he's really young, maybe a little naive even, and he didn't realize once you get into bed with some of these political people, some of these geopolitical people, that's supposed to be a permanent relationship, and that's how they see it.
00:53:53.120So, you know, if you do the mafia dirty when you're supposed to be doing business together, you know, what do they say?
00:57:26.720But then I think in 2028, I think that that's when the new generational right and the new generational left will finally have their day politically.
00:57:35.860I think it's going to be the 2028 presidential election.
00:57:38.820The new generational left, they have had three straight election cycles stolen from them.
00:57:44.120It should have been Bernie Sanders for three straight presidential election cycles.
00:57:47.980But the Democrats just steal their – they steal it so he could never get through.