SNEAKO - May 22, 2023SNEAKO Tries To Convert Melina To Islam
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In this episode, we have our first guest on the show, a girl named Melina. She is a Muslim convert and a Buddhist convert. We talk about her views on the universe, Buddhism, and religion. We also talk about drugs and psychedelics.
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I explained a long time ago, but you don't seem to understand.
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There's nothing that humans are able to conceptualize that does not have a beginning.
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There's no example of anything you could bring up that does not start somewhere.
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So if you think that the universe created itself, that doesn't make any sense.
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We have never seen anything that didn't come from a start.
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The only explanation for how everything was created, because as part of Allah's creation,
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the only explanation is that something must be divine that we are not able to understand
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because it's better and because it's greater than us that created everything that exists.
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Melina is still in that childish phase of sex, drugs, and travel.
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When she grows and matures, she will become a good wife, inshallah.
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When do you think you're going to grow up and accept Islam?
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I would have to like need a full-on convinced dream, you know, or something.
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Okay, I can give you Dawah right now before we...
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We have a lot of stuff to react to, chat, but should I...
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Tell me what if I should give her Dawah right now.
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I tried to last time and then you just went off a tangent.
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I kind of want you to like read about Buddhism.
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I think you just like Buddhism because you can just do a bunch of Haram stuff
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and then not really get any repercussions for you.
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It's just about like love and everything around you and like God and universe and everything.
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I don't know too much about it, but like just the main idea of it.
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It sounds like you just like it because there's no repercussions for your actions in Buddhism.
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I don't know if like negative rules, like making people not do certain things.
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I like the idea of just like being aware, like not being forced is like a certain thing.
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Otherwise, you're not like a real thing for it or whatever.
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Everything that you see, everything that's around us.
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That's like the question that we're all asking, right?
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We have no idea why we're here, what we're doing.
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Well, don't you sometimes have you noticed because you believe in love all the time
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that there must be an instance of something divine.
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Like sometimes when you're in nature and then the birds will come at a certain time
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or you look at the ocean and the way the waves hit
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that there's something or like the patterns you see how some plants look like genitals,
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for example, or how you see things that look alike.
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Like sometimes you can look in the sky and things look like an eye, for example.
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You see a lot of patterns and there's a lot of signs.
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Can you admit that you've seen a lot of signs that show that there must have been
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I'm not really sure if it would be a divine creator that would be like the answer to it,
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So if things are magical, then it doesn't mean that everything,
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Yes, we do notice patterns, but we also put things together
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Like an animal wouldn't notice probably a pattern in the same way as a human does, right?
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So it could be the case that we're just like seeing things everywhere.
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How do you know that's not true that animals don't see patterns, for example.
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You see birds fly in a flock and they don't really, they don't even communicate in a way
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Yeah, it might be the case that they are seeing it.
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But like, okay, have you ever done mushrooms before?
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You see patterns that you probably wouldn't see as much if you were sober.
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So I think, I feel like it has to do with that a lot more.
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Like, do you think that if you're high on mushrooms, you might be more connected to God in that
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I don't, I don't feel the need to because once you understand like what it's helping
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So something from the earth that like, no one made that in a lab.
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But I asked you to do kava once and you said no, even though that's also.
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I don't do drugs anymore, but I know, but a mushroom, mushroom is a drug too, right?
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But it comes from earth or smoking weed is the same thing.
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So there are these things that can alter your brain that come from the earth.
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There you're pointing out things that must show that there's some sort of divine creation
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Something, there's someone there that must have created this.
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No, it could be just like the universe itself should be a creation, right?
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So something created it or the universe created itself.
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And we don't know if it's a creator, if it's like, just like the universe that happened.
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It doesn't have to be, you're, you're attributing the image of a creator and that maybe that's
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holding you back, but something, something, in essence, whatever you want to believe in
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If it's love, if it's universe, there, there is something that created everything.
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I mean, we don't know that, but let's say that it is.
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And then you have to look at the one religion that respects that there is one creator and
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that acknowledges the only monotheistic religion.
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And then everything that came from Muhammad's peace be upon him that came from his mouth
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when he was reciting the Quran, he didn't even really know how to read and write properly.
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He was sent by the creator and he just started reciting his words.
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He started telling exactly what Allah wanted him to say.
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And then they were able to go and transcribe it.
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And from that day, he was able to describe the patterns in the universe.
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He knew about the sun and the moon and what times of day that we should pray and how it
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There's a lot of signs in the Quran that show that it, it cannot just be from the mouth
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It can't just be, it must've been the creator sending him a message.
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How do you know that it's just one creator, not plenty?
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Because even if there are plenty of creators or plenty of prophets, which there were, there
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must've been, there's always has to come to one.
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I feel like there's no proof of that, that there's one creator or there's multiple.
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Nothing can exist without somebody creating it.
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So what if there's like several gods, like it doesn't make sense.
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If, even if there were several gods or several prophets, for example, it always has to go
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back to one divine creator, something that is greater than us, greater than we can even
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conceptualize, greater than we can even understand.
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But if you're saying that, why one in that case?
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Why couldn't it just be the same thing with like, let's say that it's five different creators
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And you say someone must have created them, but in that case, I could say that someone
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must have created that one God in that case too.
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Why couldn't it just be five in that case instead of one?
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Because it always has to go back to something that's more divine than the rest.
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There's always something that's greater than other.
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A chicken can't come without an egg being laid.
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There's a divine chicken and the universe is the egg.
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One greater thing that we cannot understand, that it's not worth explaining, that it's not
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worth trying to go and draw or really try to conceptualize or figure out, there must be
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And there's no point in us even trying to understand what this is, but there's something
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divine that is responsible for our existence here.
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Okay, so how do we even know in that case that this one creator has set a bunch of rules?
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Like, how do we know that, like, from the things that we see around us, that these has
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Because all the things that we're seeing, if we see a flower that looks like another one
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or something like that, we see a bunch of patterns.
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How does that end up into words of, like, this is what you're allowed to, and this is
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Like, you're telling, it sounds like you're telling me, or maybe you're not, that all the
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things that's in the Quran or the Bible or whatever, there's a bunch of, like, rules,
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How do we know that those rules are actually real?
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Because you say, like, oh, we see everything around us, so we must think that there has
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to be a bunch of, like, there has to be a God, there has to be things, because there's
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patterns around us, we can read into those patterns, oh, how to live life in the best
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So how do we know that the things that's in the Quran is actually the correct way of living?
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Because we are the one species that we don't just act, we can think before we act.
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Other species, they're born, and then they know exactly what they have to do.
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They don't hold a banana, or they don't hold a piece of fruit.
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A flower doesn't look at itself and think, I don't want to be a flower.
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I asked about the patterns, like, why do you think the rules in the Quran are the rules
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Because the rules apply for us, for people, because we are...
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Yeah, no, but isn't the same thing in the Bible?
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It is, but the Bible has, that's true, there's, but the Bible has more inconsistencies and does
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not believe in, they believe in the Trinity, they don't believe in one creator, they believe
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That's an inconsistency, a hypocrisy within the Bible that doesn't make sense.
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In Islam, there's just one creator, and we worship him.
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And even if you look at the Bible, Jesus, he prayed down, he put his head on the, put
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That's why the Bible didn't get everything right.
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He was one of the prophets, peace be upon him, that was sent by Allah, but Muhammad was
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So the Christians were, they have been misguided.
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They think that, if you look in the Bible, Jesus would pray exactly the way Muslims do.
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He was ethnically a Jew, but the way he prayed in the worship and the way he believed,
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They don't say that in the Bible, but everything that he practiced, like you could definitely
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Because they believe in multiple, they believe in like different gods and energy.
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I think that's Hinduism that believes in multiple gods.
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Yeah, they believe in all these different weird idols.
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But I feel like Buddhism kind of just like believes that the universe is God itself.
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How can the universe, the universe can't have created itself.
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Why would you need like an individual to do it?
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Because I feel like that makes a lot more sense that the universe could just create itself.
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But from the start, something was going to happen.
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This is why Islam is the only religion that makes sense.
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But I can't like figure out that there's like an individual or like one thing that like
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I feel like that makes a lot less sense than just like it created itself.
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The creator has to be something that's greater than its creation.
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So for anything to have existed, there has to have been one divine creator.
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I feel like it makes more sense that everything is created itself.
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So how does it make more sense if you can't explain it?
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But from time, with time and space, things has happened.
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And I feel like it just has developed by itself.
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But you can't explain that because you haven't seen it.
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Yeah, but you can't explain that there's an individual person that's started everything, right?
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But that's the only logical explanation because...
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Explain something that you have seen and what you know of the universe and everything.
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Something that you can conceptualize that doesn't have a beginning and an end.
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Everything you know has started, has been created.
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Because it's not like a flower comes from absolutely nothing.
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There's like a bunch of different particles that comes together, right?
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Like it's like the earth wasn't just like created just like that.
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Like it's a lot of different things that happen in time and space.
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Right, the seed creates a flower, but something has to create the seed.
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And then you can go back and say the fertilizing or the dirt, but it always goes back to something.
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If you trail back anything, it has to come from some creation.
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That's like a thing itself, but like, how do I explain this?
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But why does it have to, but why does it have to.
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I'm asking you to explain something that you have seen that does not have a beginning.
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Can you name something, something that you know in existence that does not have a beginning?
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I don't think that anything really has an end or a beginning.
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Like we can look at like a flower that dies, whatever, but it's a lot more complicated
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than that because it's all the atoms and everything, right?
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But before it was a flower, it wasn't a flower.
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But before it was a flower, it's something else.
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So the creation of a flower started, there was an inception of a flower.
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You mean that the energy that started to grow the flower is God?
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Because the flower was something else before it became a flower, clearly, because that's
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Do you see how you're not answering like what I'm saying?
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I'm asking you to explain something that you know of that did not have a beginning.
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The flower, and I understand that it comes from something else.
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You mean when it's like when it is existing as a flower?
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But I don't think you could think about it that way.
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Like you can think about life as a start and an ending and stuff like that.
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And then it becomes rocks if it puts together in a long time.
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And then it does that over and over and over again.
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And then like by time it becomes together again.
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But eventually it started from a piece of sand.
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So my point is everything that you can think of and conceptualize.
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I'm sure it comes from a rocket from the space.
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There's a lot of things that happen before that.
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Nothing could go on forever without a beginning.
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By not bringing up anything that does not have a beginning.
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Or like becoming like a thing that we can physically see.
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We can like think about a flower as an individual thing.
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Like the autumns was something else before that.
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But like it got created to like a thing for a little bit.
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And then it like became something else later on.
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There has to be something from the beginning as well.
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The only logical explanation is there must be something divine.
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That is greater than all of the creations that we are able to conceptualize.
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You're telling me that the flower has a beginning and an end.
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Like being a flower has a beginning and an end.
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Because if you think about the flower as a God.
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And then it all spread out to like a bunch of existence.
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You're explaining that everything comes from a beginning and an end.
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But you haven't given me an argument for why that is.
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There's nothing that humans are able to conceptualize.
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There's no example of anything you could bring up.
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So if you think that the universe created itself.
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We have never seen anything that didn't come from a start.
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The only explanation for how everything was created.
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The only explanation is that something must be divine.
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If you have never understood that to be the case.
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I don't think there's like an individual that has created everything.
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But you need to stop going based off of what you feel.
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I'm giving you the logical explanation for this.
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But you don't believe in infinity in that case.
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How many times do you think you could do it until there's an end?
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Let's say that there's a magic knife that can cut it all the way.
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Or let's say that you take this and you double it up.
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Well you could always like double it up as well.
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Everything that you can conceptualize has a beginning.
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But you could also like plus everything to infinity.
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But you could also think about what happened before it was a flower.
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I don't think you need to think of it in terms of time.
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But there has been stuff that's happened beforehand.