SNEAKO - September 28, 2022SNEAKO VS BLUE PILL BOTS
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Summary
In this episode, we talk about the benefits of going to college and why it's not a scam. We also talk about how much college should cost and why you should not have to go to college to get a degree.
Transcript
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Well, what about people that go to a good university, Sineko, and they like develop a good education and they also build connections through there?
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It kind of sounds like this person came to you to like another form of like education, kind of like a college, if you will, and like develop a connection.
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You know, I see how dumb that is, like, Destiny earlier has been saying that it's a scam when it's $50 a month.
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Well, I didn't say you're, whoa, whoa, whoa, I did not say you're a scam.
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He didn't say it was a scam, but he's talking down in the creativity kit saying that it's like, not a scam, I don't want to, like, trigger you, but you're saying to network and go to school, which is essentially what college is for, networking, $50,000 a year to network.
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Like you're going four years to learn a STEM degree.
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No, we also agreed that all the information in college is available online now.
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You don't need to go listen to this old guy talking in front of a classroom and go to Zoom classes.
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Yeah, but, okay, but the thing is, the old, the old, okay, go ahead.
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Like, oh, I could play saxophone across the world, meet successful other jazz players, and I can network and learn a band.
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Or you can find an online community full of similar like-minded people and work with them.
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The idea that this shit is a scam is so stupid, but then, like, people are guessing and be like, go to school and take up a bunch of worlds.
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Could people just download your information and, like, cut you out of the equation and succeed then?
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This is why networking is the most important part.
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So the old guy you go to learn at university, okay, and I'll give you a great example.
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Like, when you're in, like, computer sciences or computer engineering, the old guy is not just some old guy.
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They're the ones that are going to be – they're the ones that are going to teach you how to apply it in a practical sense going forward into, like, a big company.
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So roughly you and that old guy that's teaching people in the Zoom class or in real life, they're one and the same.
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Like, if you're going to talk shit on the old guy, you have to cut yourself out of the equation.
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People can just download your shit and go on with it, right?
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I don't know, but nobody's going to get a job because they said they have the creativity kit.
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No, I just told you somebody just got a job as a full-time editor.
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A measurable amount of people aren't getting jobs because they have the creativity kit.
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People have run up 100K TikTok accounts, clipping up my stuff, and they show it to a label.
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Or people like Musa can now do $1,000 for one hour's call because he's shown that he knows the algorithm.
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You guys so adamantly want to defend the Matrix and defend paying fucking 100K a year for this...
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Okay, but you know you can't leave the Matrix, right?
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Kyle gets more inflated every time you bring up the cost.
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Do you know you can never actually leave the Matrix, right?
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Yeah, but you can limit how much you're actually in it.
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Well, you said earlier, like, nobody has a boss they respond to.
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I was just at the Apple Store today and this lady was just yelling at the Apple Store employees
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They called her a bitch as soon as she walked away.
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Whose boss was like, I don't have to see my boss.
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Like, I think the point is, is when you go to college or you go to university and you
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go to, like, structured education, you're picking a safe spot, right?
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You're picking a safe way to have a safer life.
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But the thing is about, like, breaking the Matrix, you can't break the Matrix.
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You can only, like, succeed well within it, right?
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And not everyone has the means to do that, right?
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You can watch a million videos on YouTube about how to run a business, right?
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I opened up this fucking YouTube page and you know what the YouTube, like, first results
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Like, the guy bought one property, rents it out, calls it a day.
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You want to make fucking actual money, you need to have capital to do it, all right?
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You can't even go to get a business loan these days because credit can be so far down
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So they go to university, they go to college to at least get something stable going.
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Because like Destiny said, time is finite, okay?
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If you spend your early 20s trying to chase the bag and trying to make the millions of
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dollars, you'll find out very quickly it's not easy to do that.
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But if you have five years of shit to show for it, like a college education and at least
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some career, then you can probably do something, you know, safer in your 30s and your 40s
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Some people are, most people I would say are fine with stable and secure shit.
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Yeah, I think too many people, my idea is that too many people are okay with just a
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I think Myron is a good example of somebody who has the main type of capital and then invested
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into real estate so that he doesn't have to ever work again.
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You get a source of income with a skill online and then reinvest it into other places.
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It doesn't have to be crypto, like, which makes Destiny so mad.
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And I think more people should know that instead of taking the safe route.
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You guys are saying, take the safe, easy route that they've laid out in front of you that
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is meant to keep you a wage slave for the rest of your life.
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If you want people to, if you want your chat to do that, then fine.
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I feel like, I feel like a lot of these courses and a lot of these things would make more
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sense if they taught people that it wasn't just the internet that you're making money
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out of, but like actual practical ways somebody could jump into, you know, like what is so
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Like how, how are you going to like, you have to have like a high, uh, what should I say?
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Like, what is the, what is the rate of like people that succeed Destiny?
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I'm sure you have like the definition for it, but like the people that like succeed, you
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have to have like a good throughput rate, I guess is what the best thing is.
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Right. Like how many people in your course succeed out of like a hundred versus college,
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right? People are going to pick, you know, which one is a safe option.
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If you're going for a STEM degree, if you're going for anything that's licensed, for instance,
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People go to law school and they spend like fucking how many years getting to that position
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and then they fucking succeed at the end, hopefully.
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Right. At least like that's the general perception of it.
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Same with doctors, same with like engineers or anybody in that position.
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You know, it's like how many people in your situation succeed?
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How many people, how many mooses are there versus mooses that go to like MIT or like
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university of Toronto or like a big, there's most of them, most people will fail because
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they will give up and they will go back to the safe route.
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As soon as it becomes difficult, a lot of people don't have the opportunity to really fully
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I mean, I was able to do it because I've been focusing on since I was 14.
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I saw from the beginning, from a young age that I did not want to be a wage slave.
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I did not want to be part of a cognitive system.
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And so I worked hard, but that's what separates the people, the winners from the losers is
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Destiny is encouraging complacency and I'm encouraging ambition.
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The words that you're using are so mind rotted.
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You're like such a bot when you say that, that like, like a guy can follow a set path in
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You can have a good diet, get good sleep, have a lot of friends, work out, have a good
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body, go to college, get a good degree, have a good paying job with good benefits, go on
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That's a successful person by literally every single metric.
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Like I would argue that a lot of the people that chase the online shit are more complacent
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than the people that have like the dedication to follow through with school and get a real
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job rather than the people that are working their side hustle, which is really a job at
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And then they're online trying to get rich, like trading coins.
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You're too scared to actually take steps and do the real work in the real world to actually
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improve yourself and put yourself in a position to get a good job.
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And instead, you're hoping to get rich quick online.
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Like, why do you need to go be involved in the, in your idea of the real world?
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Your idea of maturity and being adult is just being a part of the system that's in front
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It's actually doing what you say, like being a part of, like a doctor is a part of the
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Like these are important people that do important things that make it possible for you and me
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to do our jobs, but I'm only going to do what I'm able to do because enough people went
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to school to work on fucking Amazon servers, right?
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Amazon only exists because college educated Jeff Bezos started the company and had people
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Like people that were willing to drive UPS trucks, people that were willing to do customer
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What's the most coveted job in America for kids?
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What did you want to do before you wanted to school?
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You do that because you have no other options because you take a safe route.
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It's only complacency to you because to you, anything less than being a superstar is a failure
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because you don't know what life looks like to a normal person.
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Like for you, the only thing that it means to succeed is to have a million YouTube followers
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It's being independent and not answering to nobody.
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Dude, you're literally sucking off fucking Islam over here because you're worried about
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If you want to talk to me about some independent shit, I want you to go out back and show me a
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picture of the fucking vegetable garden that you've got growing.
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You're cultivating on your own so you can survive on your own when the apocalypse happens.
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Otherwise, we're all fucking plugged into the system.
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There's levels to how much you can be plugged into the system and you're encouraging a bigger
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If my level is not wanting to get killed by a guy named Ahmed, then fine.
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When I worked at my fucking casino job, I sure as fuck never worried about what the fuck
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Man, if my logs ever got leaked, dude, my entire fucking family would get assassinated
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for the crazy shit that I said online in battle.net.
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This was when before nobody got banned for slurs or anything back then.
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Bro, you could fucking type people's phone numbers and tell them you were going to come
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fucking murder their dogs and nobody gave a fuck back then on the internet.
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I didn't give a fuck back then because I didn't care.
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I've got to worry way more about the shit that I say and the shit that I type.
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I'm not going to go back to that life, obviously.
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I got to worry about other shit that normal people don't have to worry about.
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Like we're all part of the system in one way or another.
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Yes, but I'm telling you how much you're plugged into it and how much you're not.
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Me having this creativity kit and me having most of my money come from Patreon or come
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Or eventually, like if I do get banned, going to a platform that I start or that's independent
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is me out of that and me not having to answer to anybody.
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Like, yes, yes, we do answer to some people, but there's levels.
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Having like an angry Karen that you answer to every day is way worse than doing what we
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But like, aren't you like tied down into YouTube and Patreon in some way?
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Like if those things went away, what would you do tomorrow?
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Well, that's why I'm saying that you need to start, you need to have capital and then
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you need to invest in other places that you can be fully independent.
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And then I'll just be eventually, I'm just going to be on YouTube for fun and I don't
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need to worry about, you know, words that are like what I can say about the election
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I think there's pros and cons to everything and it's just, it's hard to see it all, I
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think, in my opinion, but I think you're dodging the fact that you, you are, you are
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Stop saying, bro, stop saying I'm dodging because you're too dumb to understand what
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It is actually, you're actually triggering the fuck out of me.
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It's about being an adult and taking responsibility and growing past age 24 and realizing not everybody
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can be a millionaire on doing some online shit.
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That's when you're 14 and everybody's saying, what do you want to do when you grow up?
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At some point you grow up and you're like, okay, I need to actually be an adult and I
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need to figure out like, wow, I'm going to navigate life.
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It's about accepting the responsibilities of being an adult.
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It's like, okay, well, I need to find an acceptable path forward that I can carve that
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makes place for me, my hobbies and what I want to do and also provides a living and
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probably provide some service to a society that isn't scamming people online selling them cheap
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Chinese fucking silverware in order to make money.
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The reason that you're dumb is that you think maturity and adulthood is giving up on your
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Every time you talk to me about maturity and about being adult, every time you call
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someone else childish, is it because they're not being a slave?
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Someone who's not being a slave and it triggers you.
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The fact that I get you so upset and you bring me in the stream because I'm a young man full
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of ambition and people are getting encouraged by this.
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Your maturity is just giving up on your dreams.
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Ambition is the kid that's 16 that already knows like three different programming languages.
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Ambition is the guy that's like 17 or 18 that can already build a whole fucking engine
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Ambition is the guy that's at 19 or 20 and already like the VP of his dad's fucking company.
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Being 24, working at Burger King, and then going on and checking your Robinhood app to
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see if you got rich on some penny stock you got recommended by Andrew.
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You keep talking about me like I'm advocating for the big crypto guy.
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When you ask me an example of an entrepreneur who makes money, I talked about my editor who makes
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money off consultation calls because he studied the algorithm and because he's networked with
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the right people and he provided value by learning how to edit.
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He found a skill, reinvest in other places, and then you keep talking about crypto.
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Bro, that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
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The creativity kid is about learning a skill, becoming valuable, and then investing in other
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But what you're talking about, that guy, that editor guy, he didn't learn how to edit
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Do you consider yourself an actual editor that could work in a professional location?
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He could get a job editing, but it's like, you know, the entire structure of it too.
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Destiny, I was shit at editing for seven years.
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I learned how to edit in a month from YouTube tutorials in college.
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I was shit at editing for seven years on my main channel.
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You didn't learn how to edit from a fucking YouTube tutorial.
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That's the only way that you learned skills like that.
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Yeah, this is why I'm saying people that know how to do things don't know how the fuck
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The fact that you would even say that, you learned some shit in a month.
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You probably began learning in a month on YouTube, but you learned it over the course
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That's your whole teenage years spent actually editing videos on YouTube.
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Nobody's going to learn in a month how to do it.
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Watching YouTube tutorials and then grinding every single day.
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You are opening up the mirror working on it every day.
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I don't like this point that you keep making that I have an advantage because I was doing
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When I wasn't good at it and I hated it for most of the time and then I decided I need
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to find a skill that makes me different from other people.
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If I cannot invest all this money into different places like Mr. Beast and buy all these Orbeez
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and buy trucks and Lego cars, then I need to become the best at editing.
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So I grinded at it for a month while I was in school.
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I learned more in that time focusing on watching a YouTube tutorial, copying what I said, in
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How much of that time was watching the YouTube tutorial versus actually sitting in front
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with Premiere on and working on a project or two?
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Part of the creativity is teaching mindset that you need to work hard and go do it too.
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So if we agree that you need to go work and do it, why are you telling people to give
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We both agree you need to work hard and all the information is online.
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If somebody wants to work at something like that, that's great.
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But just don't expect to get rich quick doing it.
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Why are you applying that to me as if that's my fucking ideology?
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If somebody wants to learn to be a YouTube editor, how long would it take them to be good
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It's unbelievably reliable for saxophone and for film school.
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If you would have had the opportunity to go to Berklee School of Music, would you take it?
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Bro, some of these colleges, you are surrounded by the most talented motherfuckers in the world.
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She went to the best acting school in the world.
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She's like 26 right now, and it's very difficult to get an acting job.
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All these people that go to Juilliard, she'd be the most famous actress ever, when that's
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I think they should make the connections online.
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I think they should make a short film the way I did.
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Post it on the YouTube channel, and maybe someone will see it, and investors will follow
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He's going to get a show on Hulu or HBO Go because he put in the work on YouTube.
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So your sister went to Juilliard, and she's going to, like, you know, acting, right?
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The thing we said earlier, too, is, like, just a little bit, like, five minutes ago.
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How many slots do you think exist to be, like, a big-time actor?
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Somebody that goes to university for, like, computer sciences, there's so many more slots
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Somebody that goes to school for something that you have, like, a ton of career slots
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There's not a lot of stability to go into, like, shit like, you know, acting or whatever.
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Thank you for interrupting me to say that simple shit.
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There's very few slots, and it's better to go get that information online and work hard to go
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Okay, and my point is, it's like, okay, if you're going to go into those scenarios, right?
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Like, if you give that shit to a thousand fucking people, that information, hey, here's
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How many of those thousand people become actors?
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I'm saying that to people in my chat who are ambitious.
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So you need to understand that, understand why most people decide to be followers and
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stay in their safe space and work around that and become better than them.
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Now, if you told the same thousand people, hey, go and go, go to this university, get
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a solid, you know, education, solid connections.
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Then they, how many of those people will succeed versus a thousand people you teach to become
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Depends on what you, it depends on what you consider succeeding.
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And see, I made this decision too, when I dropped out, I wasn't making a lot of money
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I was probably making $2,000 a month, but I was way happier making money doing comedy
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Like, I think a standup comedy dollar is worth a hundred dollars.
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I just want to be clear for the things you're saying.
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If you're making $2,000 a month doing standup, you're already part of the top one of the
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So my $2,000 a month, I thought was equal to somebody making 20K a month at a normal
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Oh, honey, I'm home with your wife, or you cannot give up your dream.
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I said from a young age, this is what I want to do.
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I would be unhappy if I gave up on my dream, which most people do.
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Like I said, the number one coveted job in America is being a YouTuber.
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And then they drain it out of you and make you think the destiny.
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The ideology that you need to go clean carpets when you really want to be a YouTuber.
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Bro, if my kid wanted to be a YouTuber, I'd be like, listen, I would rather you make 20K
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a month having a stable career than 2K a month doing fuck all with your life.
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A lot of people would choose safety, but I'm sick of that.
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So how are they going to be happier in the long term?
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But I know the reason that I'm successful is because I know a lot of the people watching
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my stream, it's a nagging thought that they gave up.
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Like, yes, you have a stable life, but you still gave up on what you really wanted to do.
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The issue is that like what you're talking about is like, this is the most toxic aspect
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And it's the idea that people need to be fucking superstars to be happy.
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It's like the worst takeaway, the most bastardized version of what it means to be successful in
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I'm not saying that you'll be unhappy doing that, but you'll be less happy.
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You're saying like, oh, well, if you're not a superstar, you gave up.
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You still got that little hope, that little dreamer, that little 18 year old destiny was
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Bro, when I was a kid, I wanted to be an astronaut.
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Because we don't have parents to carry us through like every part of life.
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Like we don't have mom and dad to pay our entire way.
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We'll try to figure out fucking careers out and shit.
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I didn't have that opportunity that I was on my own as I was fucking 16, trying to figure out
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Like, yeah, I didn't have the luxury of like trying to do some fucking art because I was making YouTube
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videos when I was 13, making thousands of dollars before I even fucking left the house.
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Like, we don't all have those same opportunities.
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That's like the point that I'm trying to make to people.
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But it's hard to understand if you don't have that perspective.
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Well, at 16, I was like fucking fucking Nick for Nichols until that happened.
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I'm not assuming that you're rich on YouTube, but like you're going home at three o'clock to make
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fucking YouTube videos and you're practicing for your future career at 14 and I'm staying after
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school for three hours every day doing janitorial work to pay for my fucking high school
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Like, not everybody has the same opportunities in life.
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Don't forget night school to get extra credits.
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You can't just be like, oh shit, like, I just learned all of this shit in one fucking month.
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Like, people are preparing for their future careers by the time they're in sixth grade.
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You think you can just teach it in like two fucking months on like an internet course.
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The fact that you think that you can be a YouTube editor and be making like decent money
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Like, you don't see how much work went into you getting to the place that you're at.
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You just see that like you succeeded and you think everybody can do it like relatively easily.
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It's not a get rich quick scheme either, which you keep implying it is.
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I know that you're young, but you're not that young, bro.
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I think you became very functional to the point where you're very good at using it.
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I will say I do agree with Sneeko and that people who have these dreams should give it
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I will also say, though, that oftentimes people who try to go and do these things realize
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There's the idea of being a YouTuber, which Sneeko can understand.
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And then there's actually being a YouTuber, which is completely different.
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You guys know this from the back end, all the editing that you have to do, all the managing
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the channel, all the dealing with the comments, all the researching for the topics.
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Once people realize what kind of labor is involved, a lot of them all of a sudden don't want
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to do it, which is why a lot of people flame out.
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They stop doing it very early on or they'll switch career paths because they're like,
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So having a dream and giving up on it isn't necessarily always a bad thing.
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Because I know for me, originally I wanted to be a professional dancer.
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So moving down to LA, seeing what the industry was like and seeing what the professional
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dancing was like, I'm like, I actually don't want to do.
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You can look at me, Sneeko, and say I gave up on my dream.
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But the reality is, if I had pursued my dream the way that you're saying, keep going for
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I still go out dancing every week, but for me, it's not for me.
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Those motherfuckers know how to dance up there, let me tell you.
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But moving past that, earlier you mentioned Myron and how he did his pivot and then had
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his whole real estate thing going on that's kind of helped him finance his life.
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Myron also was like a federal agent for some time, if I didn't fuck that up.
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One good thing that I say about schooling, schooling doesn't always come in the form of
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A lot of the greatest saxophone musicians, they got their education through church.
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They were part of huge choirs for many, many years, and they were given on to be the best
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I know for me personally, the military was like a very functional thing.
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Like when I was coming out of school, if I were to try to pursue my dreams, I'd probably
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be involved in just doing drugs every single day.
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Whereas because I went to the military, that kind of schooling and formation helped me develop
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some skills that are really good for me now in the artistic world.
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And Myron's pretty similar in that when you said this, Destiny, when you went to Fresh
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and Fit, right, you noticed how everything was organized, how on top of everything he
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He didn't get that because he was an 18-year-old decided he wanted to pursue his dreams.
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He got that from professional development in school and work.
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By being part of the COG, he learned the skills necessary for him to be good at his
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I feel like you have to work a few years out of your life to get that structure in.
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At 30, he finally found what he wanted to do, and he finally really followed his true
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And I think it's dangerous for a lot of young men, and I think the reason that I'm doing
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well right now is because when they hear, like you guys are all like, what, 10 years
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When they hear people like you who are encouraging having a safe place and having like comfort
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and complacency, that's why a lot of people end up giving up.
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But we're all agreeing on the fact that it takes hard work.
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You need to go figure out the right, seek out the right information.
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And so if they follow you guys, they're going to give up.
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And I think it's drilled out of us that we should give up too soon when you really can
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What I'm trying to say is that there's a lot of people who go through different journeys to get
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to that point, they can't just come out of college or come out of high school and then
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Some people don't have the skill set to be successful entrepreneurs.
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That is things that sometimes you need to develop for some folks in a condensed or like
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You might be different in the sense that you are very self-taught.
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There's other people I know who need mentoring and need to learn these skills from other
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They need to be in the military for a few years to get that shit beat out of them because
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there's no way that they're going to make it two, three years without going to jail.
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So what I'm trying to say is I don't disagree with what you're saying.
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I just don't think everyone has to take the same course.
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For some people, maybe it's two years in college.
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They learn a few skills and then they go somewhere else.
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For some people, maybe it's five years in college or some folks, it's two years being
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I guess my only disagreement with you is not in regards to going after your dreams.
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I just, I don't like the fact that you kind of always pigeonhole it.
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It's like being formed is bad or school is bad.
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Like why is that something that you're so focused on?
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And so just as a real quick, a question on that, I would be so curious and I can honestly
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see him answering either way, but I'm curious if we could ask Myron, if you could have skipped
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being a Fed and gone right into like the YouTube shit, do you think that would have been better
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Assuming you don't know what you know now and like it just started, or if he thought
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that like the prior work experience problem, I'm curious what he'd say.
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And I think I would say all rich people, all millionaires would not go change their life
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path because you need those experiences to appreciate where you're at.
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Not just appreciate, but also to learn the lessons and take the L's on the way there.
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Like the skills I learned, like listen, I would never go back to the military, but the
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limited time that I did spend in there taught me...
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Look, I didn't have any like mentoring growing up.
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So me going to the military, it was like a big slap in the face in a lot of ways and I
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And that afterwards helped me develop all the skill sets I need so that when I went into
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the arts world, I was ahead of a lot of other people because artists live chaotic lives
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So I got ahead very quickly learning editing skills, learning music editing skills, learning
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how to film, doing all this stuff because I was driven to me how to be on top of things.
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So what I'm trying to say is that environment gave me the skills I needed to therefore become
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Even the guy who runs what's the channel called?
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Dude's got like a net worth of like $200 million.
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He says that all the skills that he learned from that time in the military helped him
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transition afterwards into being the best entrepreneur he could be.
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So this whole idea of immediately chasing your dreams, sometimes you're not even in the
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right mindset to even know what that's supposed to look like.
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I just don't understand the point of like giving up.
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Like, so you're, I feel like if we were 10 years younger and around Sneeko's age, we
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We'd be like, yeah, chase your dreams, go after it.
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We've seen like, we've had our structure from other areas built in.
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I think if I look at Myron being a federal agent, like that structure and that like understanding
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of the world is what allows him to be a successful YouTuber, right?
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Like when you mentioned people in the like social media space, right?
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People who are in here, like there's a level of like structure you have to have.
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There's, there's a certain grind that you have to be like willing to be in willing to
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And it goes beyond just understanding algorithms and all that bullshit.
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When it comes to like, you know, having a structure and having like stability in your
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life that you can then use to chase your dreams 10 years down the road that, I mean, like
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that's what we're trying to say at the end of the day, right?
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Sometimes it's like, bro, you know, fucking you, you take a certain path in your life.
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And that maybe that'll like give you a, maybe that'll change your perspective on shit.
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Maybe that'll change what your dreams actually really fucking are down the road.
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You know, like I always wanted to be a fucking lawyer, but I didn't do that.
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I ended up being a fucking engineer because I don't have the fucking money to go to law
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I thought, you know, when I look at my life now, I think, Hey, did I, would you think
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that I gave up or did I take the situation that I had and made something out of it?
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What do you think now I think I'm in the right fucking place?
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I want to, I want to ask, um, also when destiny comes back, what do you think is a genuinely,
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what do you think is a better place for young men to go to?
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Do you think it's better for them to hear my ideology or your three or you seem to, I
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know you might have, what do you think is my ideology?
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I think you align with destiny for the most part.
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Tell me what, what you think I think about this stuff.
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Destiny was saying, encouraging people to go to college and that it's unrealistic for
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you to chase your dreams, that you shouldn't try to be an online entrepreneur, that you
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should get a job, a well-paying job and be part of the system.
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My prescription is, is, is pretty much closer to Jordan Peterson, which is like clean your
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I think most young men have zero order in their life.
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They spend most of the day masturbating, watching anime or do whatever.
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I think men need order in some sense of discipline.
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Being where you get out in the military, get that on the job, whatever the fuck you need.
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You need to get that shit sorted before you even think about changing the world or
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So I can't take people seriously when they look schizophrenic, but they're trying to,
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So I don't care if you want to jump on a fishing boat and spend a year out there getting
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I think men need to get that discipline aspect in their life.
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You need, you need to have something to base that off.
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I don't, I think Destiny would disagree with you.
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Listen, Destiny can come back and he can disagree with that, but yeah, I think
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whenever I speak to young guys, whenever I speak to young guys and they're like, I feel
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I'm like, I understand that because I was lost.
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So I can't even pretend the reason why I joined the military is because I was lost.
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I'm a high school dropout, but I'm a high school dropout because school's not for me.
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I have, I can't focus the classrooms, the speed, the pacing of it is not for me.
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So would you tell young men to go to school or would you tell them to try to seek out
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See, again, it wouldn't be to go make money on their own.
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What I would tell them to do is assume responsibilities in life.
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Reason being is responsibilities test your character.
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And once your character starts to get tested by the responsibilities and you start to figure
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out who you are, once you have a better understanding of who you are, then figure out what your dream
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Because honestly, at 17, I was a goofy ass individual.
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If you asked me what my dream was, I probably would have told you something stupid.
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And I'm glad I didn't think of that because I didn't know myself well enough to know what
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So get responsibilities, be a man and take care of your shit.
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So at 17, once you get disciplined, yeah, you change as a person to your personality changes.
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I was not the same person I was when I was like 16, 17 years of age.