SNEAKO - September 28, 2022


SNEAKO VS BLUE PILL BOTS


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In this episode, we talk about the benefits of going to college and why it's not a scam. We also talk about how much college should cost and why you should not have to go to college to get a degree.

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00:00:00.000 Well, what about people that go to a good university, Sineko, and they like develop a good education and they also build connections through there?
00:00:05.520 It kind of sounds like this person came to you to like another form of like education, kind of like a college, if you will, and like develop a connection.
00:00:13.180 You know, I see how dumb that is, like, Destiny earlier has been saying that it's a scam when it's $50 a month.
00:00:17.640 He went to saxophone school. 0.98
00:00:18.920 Well, I didn't say you're, whoa, whoa, whoa, I did not say you're a scam.
00:00:22.020 I didn't say it was a scam.
00:00:23.080 Chill, don't pull that in my mouth. 0.90
00:00:24.020 He didn't say it was a scam.
00:00:25.060 He didn't say it was a scam, but he's talking down in the creativity kit saying that it's like, not a scam, I don't want to, like, trigger you, but you're saying to network and go to school, which is essentially what college is for, networking, $50,000 a year to network.
00:00:37.980 Why not pay $50,000 a year?
00:00:38.500 Well, it's also to learn too, right?
00:00:40.000 Like you're going four years to learn a STEM degree.
00:00:41.940 No, we also agreed that all the information in college is available online now.
00:00:44.980 You could just download the books.
00:00:46.560 You don't need to go listen to this old guy talking in front of a classroom and go to Zoom classes. 0.92
00:00:50.560 Just go watch a YouTube video.
00:00:51.800 All the information is online.
00:00:52.680 Yeah, but, okay, but the thing is, the old, the old, okay, go ahead.
00:00:55.860 The benefit of school is the networking.
00:00:57.620 That's what Destiny said.
00:00:58.480 Like, oh, I could play saxophone across the world, meet successful other jazz players, and I can network and learn a band.
00:01:03.360 Or you can find an online community full of similar like-minded people and work with them. 0.99
00:01:08.700 My shit's $50 a month. 0.99
00:01:10.040 School's $50K a year. 1.00
00:01:11.380 Fuck that. 1.00
00:01:12.120 Why? 1.00
00:01:12.480 So wait a minute.
00:01:13.140 Wait a minute. 1.00
00:01:13.720 The idea that this shit is a scam is so stupid, but then, like, people are guessing and be like, go to school and take up a bunch of worlds. 1.00
00:01:18.260 Could people just download your information and, like, cut you out of the equation and succeed then? 1.00
00:01:22.600 Or do they need you to learn?
00:01:23.060 Yeah, but I do three calls a week.
00:01:24.060 This is why networking is the most important part.
00:01:25.860 So the old guy you go to learn at university, okay, and I'll give you a great example.
00:01:29.700 Like, when you're in, like, computer sciences or computer engineering, the old guy is not just some old guy.
00:01:34.140 The old guy has, like, decades of experience.
00:01:36.280 They understand the frameworks, the theory.
00:01:38.560 They're the ones that are going to be – they're the ones that are going to teach you how to apply it in a practical sense going forward into, like, a big company.
00:01:44.740 So roughly you and that old guy that's teaching people in the Zoom class or in real life, they're one and the same. 0.97
00:01:49.760 Like, if you're going to talk shit on the old guy, you have to cut yourself out of the equation. 0.99
00:01:52.660 People can just download your shit and go on with it, right? 1.00
00:01:55.020 Sure. 1.00
00:01:55.300 They can download the book.
00:01:56.980 How much does school cost?
00:01:58.220 What's the average cost of a college tuition?
00:02:01.780 What do you think?
00:02:02.400 Is it, like, $20,000 a year or what?
00:02:04.220 It's different in America to Canada.
00:02:06.080 Yeah.
00:02:06.500 $20,000.
00:02:07.400 How much is the creativity kit?
00:02:11.180 I don't know, but nobody's going to get a job because they said they have the creativity kit.
00:02:13.400 It's $50 a month.
00:02:13.820 No, I just told you somebody just got a job as a full-time editor.
00:02:16.140 I'm sorry.
00:02:16.640 A measurable amount of people aren't getting jobs because they have the creativity kit.
00:02:19.660 Maybe one or two people did.
00:02:21.120 Have you asked them?
00:02:22.940 I haven't pulled everybody into it.
00:02:24.180 I've given a lot of people opportunities.
00:02:25.360 People have run up 100K TikTok accounts, clipping up my stuff, and they show it to a label.
00:02:28.560 They show it to a company.
00:02:29.680 Look what I can do when they get jobs.
00:02:31.240 Or people like Musa can now do $1,000 for one hour's call because he's shown that he knows the algorithm. 0.99
00:02:37.100 Doing clips, clipping my shit up. 0.98
00:02:39.280 There you go. 0.98
00:02:40.040 Giving people jobs.
00:02:41.720 But then you, oh, well, this is just... 0.97
00:02:43.440 You guys so adamantly want to defend the Matrix and defend paying fucking 100K a year for this... 0.50
00:02:48.340 Okay, but you know you can't leave the Matrix, right? 0.89
00:02:50.300 Kyle gets more inflated every time you bring up the cost.
00:02:52.920 I don't understand this.
00:02:54.060 Hold on.
00:02:54.340 Hold on.
00:02:54.580 Just a side tangent.
00:02:55.480 What is the Matrix?
00:02:56.300 Do you know you can never actually leave the Matrix, right?
00:02:58.400 We're all part of the Matrix.
00:03:00.420 Yeah, but you can limit how much you're actually in it.
00:03:04.020 Okay, but you're still underneath the Matrix.
00:03:05.800 Well, you said earlier, like, nobody has a boss they respond to.
00:03:08.020 Dude, everyone's got a boss.
00:03:09.160 That's true.
00:03:09.520 I got a boss.
00:03:10.240 Destiny's got a boss. 0.99
00:03:10.960 You got a boss.
00:03:11.440 We're all...
00:03:11.940 No matter what, we're all in the Matrix.
00:03:12.960 We had a boss.
00:03:13.480 I was just at the Apple Store today and this lady was just yelling at the Apple Store employees 1.00
00:03:17.080 and they all hated it. 0.99
00:03:17.800 They called her a bitch as soon as she walked away. 1.00
00:03:19.900 Whose boss was like, I don't have to see my boss. 1.00
00:03:22.340 I don't need to look at her.
00:03:23.300 I can make jokes about her.
00:03:24.400 I can tell her to, like...
00:03:25.960 And that's it.
00:03:28.420 That's it.
00:03:28.760 Okay, so when it comes to the Matrix, right?
00:03:31.060 Like, I think the point is, is when you go to college or you go to university and you
00:03:34.460 go to, like, structured education, you're picking a safe spot, right?
00:03:37.480 You're picking a safe way to have a safer life.
00:03:39.980 But the thing is about, like, breaking the Matrix, you can't break the Matrix.
00:03:43.260 You can only, like, succeed well within it, right?
00:03:45.840 And not everyone has the means to do that, right?
00:03:47.660 You can watch a million videos on YouTube about how to run a business, right?
00:03:51.140 Perfect example. 0.99
00:03:51.800 I went to this fucking Airbnb in Los Angeles. 0.99
00:03:54.060 I opened up this fucking YouTube page and you know what the YouTube, like, first results 0.99
00:03:56.920 were? 1.00
00:03:57.500 How to fucking make money. 0.98
00:03:58.440 How to, like, how to make money fast. 0.99
00:04:00.000 How to make money quick.
00:04:00.840 Like, the guy bought one property, rents it out, calls it a day. 0.92
00:04:03.320 You want to make fucking actual money, you need to have capital to do it, all right? 0.73
00:04:06.780 Which not many people have. 0.95
00:04:07.900 You can't even go to get a business loan these days because credit can be so far down 0.96
00:04:11.660 and shit. 0.96
00:04:12.260 Not everyone has those opportunities. 1.00
00:04:13.640 So they go to university, they go to college to at least get something stable going.
00:04:17.760 Because like Destiny said, time is finite, okay?
00:04:20.080 If you spend your early 20s trying to chase the bag and trying to make the millions of
00:04:23.640 dollars, you'll find out very quickly it's not easy to do that. 0.97
00:04:26.560 But if you have five years of shit to show for it, like a college education and at least 0.96
00:04:30.860 some career, then you can probably do something, you know, safer in your 30s and your 40s 0.99
00:04:36.320 down the road, you know?
00:04:37.160 Like, it's called being stable and secure.
00:04:39.540 And some people are cool with that. 0.99
00:04:40.800 Some people are, most people I would say are fine with stable and secure shit. 0.98
00:04:44.020 Yeah, I think too many people, my idea is that too many people are okay with just a 0.99
00:04:47.960 life that's fine.
00:04:49.940 That's just fine.
00:04:51.060 We're sick of that.
00:04:51.760 So they want to go and become better.
00:04:53.500 I think Myron is a good example of somebody who has the main type of capital and then invested
00:04:57.480 into real estate so that he doesn't have to ever work again.
00:05:00.360 You get a source of income with a skill online and then reinvest it into other places.
00:05:04.280 It doesn't have to be crypto, like, which makes Destiny so mad.
00:05:06.740 There's so many ways to become independent.
00:05:08.820 And I think more people should know that instead of taking the safe route.
00:05:13.020 You guys are saying, take the safe, easy route that they've laid out in front of you that
00:05:16.440 is meant to keep you a wage slave for the rest of your life.
00:05:20.640 And we can agree to disagree.
00:05:22.920 If you want people to, if you want your chat to do that, then fine.
00:05:26.240 I, that was, I hated doing that.
00:05:28.000 I hated school.
00:05:28.760 I dropped out like Destiny.
00:05:29.780 I feel like, I feel like a lot of these courses and a lot of these things would make more
00:05:33.540 sense if they taught people that it wasn't just the internet that you're making money
00:05:36.800 out of, but like actual practical ways somebody could jump into, you know, like what is so
00:05:41.320 practical about making money on the internet?
00:05:43.160 Like how, how are you going to like, you have to have like a high, uh, what should I say?
00:05:47.480 Like, what is the, what is the rate of like people that succeed Destiny?
00:05:50.900 I'm sure you have like the definition for it, but like the people that like succeed, you
00:05:54.440 have to have like a good throughput rate, I guess is what the best thing is.
00:05:57.260 Right. Like how many people in your course succeed out of like a hundred versus college,
00:06:01.460 right? People are going to pick, you know, which one is a safe option.
00:06:04.760 College and university aren't easy either.
00:06:06.300 If you're going for a STEM degree, if you're going for anything that's licensed, for instance, 0.98
00:06:09.560 that's a fucking big ass commitment. 0.99
00:06:11.540 People go to law school and they spend like fucking how many years getting to that position 1.00
00:06:16.020 and then they fucking succeed at the end, hopefully. 0.99
00:06:17.960 Right. At least like that's the general perception of it. 0.99
00:06:20.220 Same with doctors, same with like engineers or anybody in that position.
00:06:23.920 You know, it's like how many people in your situation succeed?
00:06:27.100 How many people, how many mooses are there versus mooses that go to like MIT or like
00:06:32.140 university of Toronto or like a big, there's most of them, most people will fail because
00:06:36.560 they will give up and they will go back to the safe route.
00:06:38.660 As soon as it becomes difficult, a lot of people don't have the opportunity to really fully
00:06:42.120 dive into that.
00:06:43.220 It's difficult.
00:06:44.000 I mean, I was able to do it because I've been focusing on since I was 14.
00:06:47.100 I saw from the beginning, from a young age that I did not want to be a wage slave.
00:06:50.280 I did not want to be part of a cognitive system.
00:06:52.440 And so I worked hard, but that's what separates the people, the winners from the losers is
00:06:56.100 just working hard.
00:06:57.200 Most people are not able to do it.
00:06:58.840 Destiny is encouraging complacency and I'm encouraging ambition.
00:07:02.060 That's just the guy.
00:07:02.740 But there's a lot.
00:07:04.220 I just want to be clear.
00:07:05.940 Also, you got it.
00:07:06.720 The words that you're using are so mind rotted.
00:07:09.000 You're like such a bot when you say that, that like, like a guy can follow a set path in
00:07:13.900 life and be really successful.
00:07:15.540 You can have a good diet, get good sleep, have a lot of friends, work out, have a good
00:07:19.060 body, go to college, get a good degree, have a good paying job with good benefits, go on
00:07:22.860 vacation.
00:07:23.240 And you're like, you're so complacent.
00:07:24.560 There's nothing complacent about that.
00:07:25.860 That's a successful person by literally every single metric. 0.99
00:07:28.700 Like I would argue that a lot of the people that chase the online shit are more complacent 0.99
00:07:33.160 than the people that have like the dedication to follow through with school and get a real 0.99
00:07:35.880 job rather than the people that are working their side hustle, which is really a job at
00:07:40.100 Burger King or Wendy's.
00:07:41.540 And then they're online trying to get rich, like trading coins.
00:07:44.220 Like that's complacency.
00:07:45.280 You're too scared to actually take steps and do the real work in the real world to actually
00:07:48.740 improve yourself and put yourself in a position to get a good job.
00:07:51.280 And instead, you're hoping to get rich quick online.
00:07:53.120 How is that complacent?
00:07:54.140 Like, why do you need to go be involved in the, in your idea of the real world?
00:07:58.000 Your idea of maturity and being adult is just being a part of the system that's in front
00:08:03.800 of you.
00:08:04.020 It's actually doing what you say, like being a part of, like a doctor is a part of the
00:08:07.740 system.
00:08:08.340 A lawyer is a part of the system.
00:08:09.900 An engineer is a part of the system.
00:08:11.340 Like these are important people that do important things that make it possible for you and me
00:08:14.640 to do our jobs, but I'm only going to do what I'm able to do because enough people went 0.94
00:08:17.880 to school to work on fucking Amazon servers, right? 0.91
00:08:20.180 Amazon only exists because college educated Jeff Bezos started the company and had people 0.98
00:08:23.840 that were willing to ship products.
00:08:25.060 Like people that were willing to drive UPS trucks, people that were willing to do customer
00:08:28.360 support.
00:08:28.780 Like these are all real life people.
00:08:31.480 What's the most coveted job in America for kids?
00:08:34.220 YouTuber.
00:08:34.840 Yep.
00:08:36.040 Yeah.
00:08:36.280 And 20 years ago, it was an NBA player.
00:08:38.140 Like what is the point?
00:08:39.220 What did you want to do before you wanted to school?
00:08:40.640 You wanted to be a saxophone player.
00:08:41.880 People don't want to be UPS drivers. 0.99
00:08:43.860 People don't want to be garbage men. 0.96
00:08:45.020 People don't want to do that. 0.96
00:08:45.880 People don't want to be carpet cleaners.
00:08:47.060 You do that because you have no other options because you take a safe route.
00:08:49.340 So you're saying it's brain rotted.
00:08:53.140 That's complacency.
00:08:54.200 You gave up.
00:08:55.200 People's dreams is to be a YouTuber.
00:08:57.860 It's to be independent.
00:08:58.720 Okay, bro.
00:08:59.040 How many people can be Hollywood actors?
00:09:01.000 How many people can be an actor?
00:09:02.240 Not many.
00:09:03.060 Not many.
00:09:04.280 So that's why I'm saying complacency.
00:09:06.200 And Destiny can't argue that point.
00:09:07.700 Are you not encouraging complacency by saying-
00:09:10.500 It's only complacency to you because to you, anything less than being a superstar is a failure
00:09:14.800 because you don't know what life looks like to a normal person.
00:09:17.160 You have no perspective.
00:09:17.900 Like for you, the only thing that it means to succeed is to have a million YouTube followers 0.99
00:09:22.220 and everybody else sucks compared to you. 0.98
00:09:23.780 No. 1.00
00:09:24.120 Like that's your view on life.
00:09:25.800 It's being independent and not answering to nobody.
00:09:28.280 Bro, neither of us are independent. 1.00
00:09:29.440 Dude, you're literally sucking off fucking Islam over here because you're worried about 1.00
00:09:32.080 getting canceled by a bunch of Muslims online. 1.00
00:09:33.640 None of us are fucking independent. 1.00
00:09:35.100 All of us are slaves to some shit. 1.00
00:09:36.820 We're all part of the matrix, bro. 1.00
00:09:38.100 If you want to talk to me about some independent shit, I want you to go out back and show me a 1.00
00:09:40.820 picture of the fucking vegetable garden that you've got growing. 1.00
00:09:42.900 You're cultivating on your own so you can survive on your own when the apocalypse happens. 1.00
00:09:45.720 Otherwise, we're all fucking plugged into the system.
00:09:48.620 There's levels to how much you can be plugged into the system and you're encouraging a bigger 0.95
00:09:52.680 level than me.
00:09:53.220 If my level is not wanting to get killed by a guy named Ahmed, then fine. 0.99
00:09:57.240 Sure, I'll say this. 1.00
00:09:59.080 When I worked at my fucking casino job, I sure as fuck never worried about what the fuck 0.99
00:10:02.220 I tweeted or what I said in a video game. 1.00
00:10:04.060 Bro, I could say some wild shit. 1.00
00:10:05.420 Man, if my logs ever got leaked, dude, my entire fucking family would get assassinated 1.00
00:10:08.940 for the crazy shit that I said online in battle.net. 0.99
00:10:11.600 This was when before nobody got banned for slurs or anything back then. 0.99
00:10:14.560 Bro, you could fucking type people's phone numbers and tell them you were going to come 0.99
00:10:17.060 fucking murder their dogs and nobody gave a fuck back then on the internet. 1.00
00:10:20.160 Like it was a wild world. 1.00
00:10:21.200 I didn't give a fuck back then because I didn't care. 1.00
00:10:22.520 I've got to worry way more about the shit that I say and the shit that I type. 0.99
00:10:24.880 So in some ways, I have a lot of freedom. 0.99
00:10:26.380 I'm not going to go back to that life, obviously.
00:10:27.880 But in other ways, I'm way more locked down. 0.96
00:10:29.340 I got to worry about other shit that normal people don't have to worry about. 0.94
00:10:31.320 Like we're all part of the system in one way or another. 0.98
00:10:33.140 Yes, but I'm telling you how much you're plugged into it and how much you're not.
00:10:38.180 Me having this creativity kit and me having most of my money come from Patreon or come
00:10:42.080 from Super Chats is being out of it.
00:10:44.320 Or eventually, like if I do get banned, going to a platform that I start or that's independent
00:10:48.180 is me out of that and me not having to answer to anybody.
00:10:51.540 Like, yes, yes, we do answer to some people, but there's levels.
00:10:55.060 Having like an angry Karen that you answer to every day is way worse than doing what we 0.99
00:10:59.920 do and trying to compare the two.
00:11:01.420 But like, aren't you like tied down into YouTube and Patreon in some way?
00:11:05.400 Like if those things went away, what would you do tomorrow?
00:11:08.940 Well, that's why I'm saying that you need to start, you need to have capital and then
00:11:11.720 you need to invest in other places that you can be fully independent.
00:11:14.780 And then I'll just be eventually, I'm just going to be on YouTube for fun and I don't
00:11:17.540 need to worry about, you know, words that are like what I can say about the election
00:11:21.660 or what I could say about the injection.
00:11:25.440 I think there's pros and cons to everything and it's just, it's hard to see it all, I
00:11:29.620 think, in my opinion, but I think you're dodging the fact that you, you are, you are
00:11:35.360 encouraging complacency. 1.00
00:11:36.280 Stop saying, bro, stop saying I'm dodging because you're too dumb to understand what 1.00
00:11:40.540 the fuck I'm saying. 1.00
00:11:41.500 It is actually, you're actually triggering the fuck out of me. 1.00
00:11:44.220 You got me. 0.99
00:11:45.520 You triggered the fuck out of me. 0.97
00:11:46.360 You did do it. 0.96
00:11:46.960 Okay.
00:11:47.360 It's not about dodging.
00:11:48.460 It's about being an adult and taking responsibility and growing past age 24 and realizing not everybody 0.98
00:11:52.900 can be a millionaire on doing some online shit. 0.99
00:11:54.960 That's a fantasy that a kid has. 0.99
00:11:56.640 That's when you're 14 and everybody's saying, what do you want to do when you grow up?
00:11:58.880 And you say, I want to play in the NFL.
00:12:00.440 At some point you grow up and you're like, okay, I need to actually be an adult and I
00:12:03.000 need to figure out like, wow, I'm going to navigate life.
00:12:04.700 It's not about giving up.
00:12:05.880 It's about accepting the responsibilities of being an adult.
00:12:07.860 It's like, okay, well, I need to find an acceptable path forward that I can carve that
00:12:10.860 makes place for me, my hobbies and what I want to do and also provides a living and
00:12:14.180 probably provide some service to a society that isn't scamming people online selling them cheap 0.99
00:12:17.920 Chinese fucking silverware in order to make money. 1.00
00:12:20.020 You keep putting words in my mouth. 1.00
00:12:21.700 The reason that you're dumb is that you think maturity and adulthood is giving up on your 1.00
00:12:26.280 dreams. 1.00
00:12:27.680 Okay.
00:12:28.280 No, it's your idea of adulthood.
00:12:30.340 Every time you talk to me about maturity and about being adult, every time you call
00:12:33.520 someone else childish, is it because they're not being a slave?
00:12:37.260 Someone who's not being a slave and it triggers you.
00:12:39.680 The fact that I get you so upset and you bring me in the stream because I'm a young man full
00:12:42.600 of ambition and people are getting encouraged by this.
00:12:44.540 So hold on, hold on.
00:12:45.300 It's somebody who gets a job.
00:12:46.600 You don't want to go give up.
00:12:48.080 You're not talking about ambition.
00:12:50.080 The problem is you're not talking about.
00:12:50.860 Your maturity is just giving up on your dreams.
00:12:53.560 No, you're not talking about ambition.
00:12:55.660 You're the 2020s version of Amway.
00:12:57.920 That's not ambition.
00:12:59.120 It's get rich quick schemes.
00:13:00.660 That's what you're talking about.
00:13:01.960 Ambition is the kid that's 16 that already knows like three different programming languages. 0.98
00:13:06.920 Ambition is the guy that's like 17 or 18 that can already build a whole fucking engine 0.99
00:13:10.440 in a car. 1.00
00:13:11.280 Ambition is the guy that's at 19 or 20 and already like the VP of his dad's fucking company. 0.99
00:13:15.640 This is what ambition looks like. 0.98
00:13:17.520 Being 24, working at Burger King, and then going on and checking your Robinhood app to
00:13:21.880 see if you got rich on some penny stock you got recommended by Andrew.
00:13:24.600 I'm not a crypto guy.
00:13:25.180 That's not ambition.
00:13:26.620 I am not an crypto guy, bro.
00:13:28.400 Why are you acting like I'm a crypto guy?
00:13:29.160 Robinhood could just be standard stocks. 0.99
00:13:30.480 Destiny, that's such a dumb idea. 0.93
00:13:31.880 Robinhood could just be stocks as well. 0.98
00:13:33.680 That's not just crypto.
00:13:34.160 Yeah.
00:13:34.560 You keep talking about me like I'm advocating for the big crypto guy.
00:13:37.420 When you ask me an example of an entrepreneur who makes money, I talked about my editor who makes
00:13:41.720 money off consultation calls because he studied the algorithm and because he's networked with
00:13:45.260 the right people and he provided value by learning how to edit.
00:13:48.060 He found a skill, reinvest in other places, and then you keep talking about crypto.
00:13:52.100 Bro, that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
00:13:54.320 The creativity kid is about learning a skill, becoming valuable, and then investing in other
00:13:58.160 places.
00:13:58.720 Not working at Burger King.
00:13:59.920 I agree.
00:14:00.720 But what you're talking about, that guy, that editor guy, he didn't learn how to edit
00:14:03.960 because he took an online course on it.
00:14:05.320 He learned how to edit because he did it.
00:14:06.480 You know how you learned how to edit?
00:14:07.520 You know how I learned how to edit?
00:14:09.300 YouTube tutorials.
00:14:11.360 Yeah.
00:14:11.780 When did you start? 0.99
00:14:12.500 When you were fucking 13. 1.00
00:14:13.700 Okay. 1.00
00:14:13.920 That's the point.
00:14:14.420 So give up.
00:14:15.200 You learned how to edit on YouTube tutorials.
00:14:17.240 Do you consider yourself an actual editor that could work in a professional location?
00:14:21.260 Yeah.
00:14:21.840 I know that if I ever get canceled or if I...
00:14:24.300 That's...
00:14:24.800 Okay.
00:14:25.040 How many programs do you know?
00:14:27.300 No, no.
00:14:27.720 I know about post-production.
00:14:29.200 I know how to use Avid.
00:14:30.240 I know how to use Final Cut Pro.
00:14:31.220 I know who's a Premier.
00:14:31.620 Avid Media Composer.
00:14:32.740 Do you know how to work with DaVinci?
00:14:33.820 Do you know the entire app?
00:14:34.820 DaVinci, Avid, Premier.
00:14:35.820 Dude, 100%.
00:14:36.940 All of them.
00:14:37.480 Nico, I know he could get a job.
00:14:39.300 He could get a job editing.
00:14:40.120 For sure.
00:14:40.580 100%.
00:14:40.940 He could get a job editing, but it's like, you know, the entire structure of it too. 0.98
00:14:44.240 Destiny, I was shit at editing for seven years. 0.83
00:14:46.100 I learned how to edit in a month from YouTube tutorials in college. 0.96
00:14:50.060 I wasn't good at editing.
00:14:51.000 You didn't learn how to...
00:14:52.320 Hold on. 0.99
00:14:52.780 I was shit at editing for seven years on my main channel. 1.00
00:14:54.880 You didn't learn how to edit from a fucking YouTube tutorial. 1.00
00:14:57.500 Yeah, I did. 1.00
00:14:57.900 You learned how to edit because you edited.
00:15:00.460 That's the only way that you learned skills like that.
00:15:02.360 You had to work at it. 0.99
00:15:03.920 Yeah, this is why I'm saying people that know how to do things don't know how the fuck 0.97
00:15:06.420 to teach them. 1.00
00:15:07.060 The fact that you would even say that, you learned some shit in a month. 1.00
00:15:09.540 You didn't learn how to... 1.00
00:15:10.160 In a month?
00:15:10.740 You probably began learning in a month on YouTube, but you learned it over the course
00:15:13.560 of your entire life.
00:15:14.480 Okay.
00:15:14.800 That's a life.
00:15:15.460 That's your whole teenage years spent actually editing videos on YouTube.
00:15:18.500 That's how you got the skill, my dude.
00:15:20.060 Nobody's going to learn in a month how to do it.
00:15:21.560 Watching YouTube tutorials and then grinding every single day.
00:15:25.000 Yes.
00:15:25.200 Working on my own videos.
00:15:25.940 See, that's the thing.
00:15:26.720 Grinding every single day.
00:15:27.740 You are opening up the mirror working on it every day.
00:15:29.860 I don't like this point that you keep making that I have an advantage because I was doing
00:15:32.700 it since I was a kid.
00:15:33.720 When I wasn't good at it and I hated it for most of the time and then I decided I need
00:15:37.540 to find a skill that makes me different from other people.
00:15:39.600 If I cannot invest all this money into different places like Mr. Beast and buy all these Orbeez 1.00
00:15:43.640 and buy trucks and Lego cars, then I need to become the best at editing.
00:15:46.860 So I grinded at it for a month while I was in school.
00:15:49.280 I learned more in that time focusing on watching a YouTube tutorial, copying what I said, in
00:15:54.300 the program.
00:15:54.540 How much of that time was watching the YouTube tutorial versus actually sitting in front
00:16:00.700 with Premiere on and working on a project or two?
00:16:03.020 It's like learning programming, right?
00:16:04.500 What's the point?
00:16:05.500 So that's what I'm telling people to do.
00:16:07.040 Part of the creativity is teaching mindset that you need to work hard and go do it too.
00:16:10.520 So if we agree that you need to go work and do it, why are you telling people to give
00:16:14.120 up?
00:16:14.700 We both agree you need to work hard and all the information is online.
00:16:17.440 And then you guys are both saying, give up.
00:16:19.880 If somebody wants to work at something like that, that's great.
00:16:22.400 But just don't expect to get rich quick doing it.
00:16:23.880 It's going to be a lot of work.
00:16:24.520 You're not going to become a good...
00:16:25.640 When do I say get rich quick?
00:16:26.400 When do I ever say that? 0.99
00:16:27.460 Why are you applying that to me as if that's my fucking ideology? 0.98
00:16:29.960 I've never said that. 0.99
00:16:31.300 Here's a question.
00:16:32.000 If somebody wants to learn to be a YouTube editor, how long would it take them to be good
00:16:34.580 enough to make some decent money doing it?
00:16:36.980 A month of hard work.
00:16:38.760 Okay.
00:16:39.060 I would say six to 12 minimum.
00:16:40.660 That'd be my guess.
00:16:42.740 So why don't you tell people to do that?
00:16:44.660 Why don't you tell people to do that? 0.98
00:16:45.220 People want to build other skills and shit. 0.96
00:16:46.960 That's fine. 0.98
00:16:47.660 That's good.
00:16:48.600 But college is so unbelievably reliable. 0.99
00:16:51.300 You can learn other shit on the side. 0.99
00:16:53.380 Okay. 0.99
00:16:54.360 It's unbelievably reliable for saxophone and for film school. 0.99
00:16:57.620 We're two examples of how it's fucking failed. 0.99
00:16:58.840 Not for saxophone. 0.99
00:16:59.500 These are arts.
00:17:00.600 It's way different there.
00:17:02.020 But even for arts, going to school like that.
00:17:04.340 Bro, you ask any professional musician.
00:17:06.340 If you would have had the opportunity to go to Berklee School of Music, would you take it? 1.00
00:17:09.140 They would tell you in a fucking heartbeat. 1.00
00:17:10.760 Bro, some of these colleges, you are surrounded by the most talented motherfuckers in the world. 1.00
00:17:14.460 You can learn so much. 0.99
00:17:15.600 You want me to give you another example?
00:17:16.480 Those guys give you the best connections, too.
00:17:18.620 They don't.
00:17:19.420 My sister, for example, she went to Juilliard.
00:17:21.580 She went to the best acting school in the world.
00:17:24.260 She's like 26 right now, and it's very difficult to get an acting job.
00:17:28.280 She's worked.
00:17:29.200 What does she do? 1.00
00:17:29.700 Theater?
00:17:30.480 No, she's auditioning for a movie.
00:17:32.060 She's done theater, too.
00:17:33.000 She works, but she's not like... 0.78
00:17:35.200 You would think that...
00:17:35.820 Oh, Juilliard...
00:17:36.500 Let me finish my point.
00:17:37.420 Juilliard, the best school in the world.
00:17:38.480 All these connections.
00:17:39.460 Robin Williams this.
00:17:40.300 All these people that go to Juilliard, she'd be the most famous actress ever, when that's 1.00
00:17:44.100 not the case.
00:17:44.860 You know what I think people should do?
00:17:46.080 I think they should make the connections online.
00:17:47.760 I think they should make a short film the way I did.
00:17:49.700 Post it on the YouTube channel, and maybe someone will see it, and investors will follow
00:17:52.580 them.
00:17:52.960 My friend, CZ Cain...
00:17:53.980 So...
00:17:54.360 My friend, CZ Cain, is now getting...
00:17:55.620 He's going to get a show on Hulu or HBO Go because he put in the work on YouTube.
00:17:58.600 Okay.
00:17:58.940 Because he put himself out there.
00:18:00.280 And if you want to be a slave to the system...
00:18:01.680 Wait, wait, wait a minute.
00:18:02.400 Your sister...
00:18:03.320 Hold on.
00:18:04.020 So your sister went to...
00:18:06.180 Muda, Muda.
00:18:06.900 Let him finish.
00:18:07.500 Let him finish.
00:18:08.280 Let him finish.
00:18:10.260 Go ahead.
00:18:11.020 Go ahead.
00:18:12.960 Okay.
00:18:13.580 Okay.
00:18:14.040 So your sister went to Juilliard, and she's going to, like, you know, acting, right?
00:18:17.500 The thing we said earlier, too, is, like, just a little bit, like, five minutes ago.
00:18:20.580 Going into acting, how many people...
00:18:22.120 How many slots do you think exist to be, like, a big-time actor?
00:18:25.960 You know, a superstar, right?
00:18:27.320 Somebody that goes to university for, like, computer sciences, there's so many more slots
00:18:31.640 in the field available for them, okay?
00:18:33.040 So many places.
00:18:34.240 That's what the stability is about, right?
00:18:35.900 Somebody that goes to school for something that you have, like, a ton of career slots
00:18:39.640 in, a lot of stability exists there. 0.94
00:18:41.520 There's not a lot of stability to go into, like, shit like, you know, acting or whatever. 0.96
00:18:45.060 It's really a lot of luck that goes into it. 0.95
00:18:46.880 That's, I think, the ultimate, like, point. 1.00
00:18:48.280 Yeah, same shit. 1.00
00:18:48.960 Okay. 1.00
00:18:49.460 Thank you for interrupting me to say that simple shit. 0.99
00:18:51.700 Same thing for saxophone. 1.00
00:18:52.800 Same thing for film school.
00:18:53.800 Same thing for all this.
00:18:54.820 There's very few slots, and it's better to go get that information online and work hard to go
00:18:59.080 get it done.
00:18:59.900 That's my point.
00:19:01.640 Okay, and my point is, it's like, okay, if you're going to go into those scenarios, right?
00:19:05.940 Like, how many people do you think?
00:19:07.520 How much is a success rate there? 1.00
00:19:09.920 Like, if you give that shit to a thousand fucking people, that information, hey, here's 1.00
00:19:13.520 the information. 1.00
00:19:14.420 Now become an actor.
00:19:15.040 Most people.
00:19:15.540 How many of those thousand?
00:19:16.320 We've said this so many times in this art.
00:19:17.960 How many of those thousand people become actors?
00:19:20.340 Most people will fail.
00:19:22.380 I'm saying that.
00:19:23.180 I'm saying that to people in my chat who are ambitious.
00:19:25.360 Most people will fail.
00:19:26.420 So you need to understand that, understand why most people decide to be followers and
00:19:30.080 stay in their safe space and work around that and become better than them.
00:19:33.200 And if you don't, you will fail.
00:19:34.420 Now, if you told the same thousand people, hey, go and go, go to this university, get
00:19:39.700 a solid, you know, education, solid connections.
00:19:43.380 Then they, how many of those people will succeed versus a thousand people you teach to become
00:19:47.060 actors?
00:19:47.500 Depends on what you, it depends on what you consider succeeding.
00:19:50.240 And also you need to.
00:19:50.900 They have a, they have a good life.
00:19:52.200 They make a good paycheck.
00:19:53.000 A good life, but they give up on their dream.
00:19:54.600 They put the saxophone down.
00:19:55.940 And see, I made this decision too, when I dropped out, I wasn't making a lot of money
00:19:58.760 for a long time.
00:19:59.640 I was probably making $2,000 a month, but I was way happier making money doing comedy
00:20:03.700 and doing YouTube videos.
00:20:05.040 Like, I think a standup comedy dollar is worth a hundred dollars.
00:20:10.200 Bro, hold on.
00:20:10.540 I just want to be clear for the things you're saying.
00:20:12.180 If you're making $2,000 a month doing standup, you're already part of the top one of the 0.99
00:20:16.400 one of the 1% of fucking comedians. 0.99
00:20:18.500 You're already like making it. 1.00
00:20:19.120 Exactly.
00:20:19.320 And that's what I'm saying.
00:20:20.180 So my $2,000 a month, I thought was equal to somebody making 20K a month at a normal
00:20:26.360 job.
00:20:26.640 I agree with you.
00:20:27.480 Yeah, that's amazing.
00:20:28.300 So that's what I'm saying.
00:20:29.100 So yes, you guys are saying, oh, happy life.
00:20:30.800 Okay.
00:20:30.960 You got to like wave in the neighbor.
00:20:32.060 Oh, honey, I'm home with your wife, or you cannot give up your dream.
00:20:35.920 And that's what I didn't do.
00:20:37.060 I said from a young age, this is what I want to do.
00:20:39.340 I would be unhappy if I gave up on my dream, which most people do.
00:20:43.160 Like I said, the number one coveted job in America is being a YouTuber.
00:20:46.880 And then they drain it out of you and make you think the destiny.
00:20:50.080 The ideology that you need to go clean carpets when you really want to be a YouTuber.
00:20:54.460 That's the point.
00:20:54.960 Bro, if my kid wanted to be a YouTuber, I'd be like, listen, I would rather you make 20K 0.99
00:20:58.840 a month having a stable career than 2K a month doing fuck all with your life. 0.99
00:21:02.300 Okay. 0.99
00:21:02.840 A lot of people would choose safety, but I'm sick of that.
00:21:05.760 And then they would have $18,000 a month less.
00:21:08.480 So how are they going to be happier in the long term?
00:21:10.220 What are they going to pay for?
00:21:10.760 But I know the reason that I'm successful is because I know a lot of the people watching
00:21:13.660 my stream, it's a nagging thought that they gave up.
00:21:16.920 People don't want to live with regret.
00:21:18.940 Like, yes, you have a stable life, but you still gave up on what you really wanted to do.
00:21:23.640 The issue is that like what you're talking about is like, this is the most toxic aspect
00:21:29.240 of the American dream, like destroys lives. 0.99
00:21:32.200 And it's the idea that people need to be fucking superstars to be happy. 0.99
00:21:36.020 It's like the worst takeaway, the most bastardized version of what it means to be successful in 0.99
00:21:40.820 the United States.
00:21:41.620 Okay.
00:21:41.880 I'm not saying that you'll be unhappy doing that, but you'll be less happy.
00:21:45.600 You're saying like, oh, well, if you're not a superstar, you gave up.
00:21:47.420 You're part of the car.
00:21:48.120 You're part of the system.
00:21:48.680 You gave up on your saxophone dream.
00:21:51.100 You know, you did.
00:21:51.940 All right.
00:21:52.860 Did you not?
00:21:54.220 It's not, it's, it's just.
00:21:55.440 Look at it sitting in the back, man.
00:21:56.680 You still got that little hope, that little dreamer, that little 18 year old destiny was
00:22:00.400 like playing the saxophone.
00:22:01.180 Bro, when I was a kid, I wanted to be an astronaut.
00:22:02.400 Because we don't have parents to carry us through like every part of life.
00:22:05.120 Like we don't have mom and dad to pay our entire way. 0.99
00:22:07.040 We'll try to figure out fucking careers out and shit. 0.99
00:22:08.860 Like, I'm sorry. 0.99
00:22:09.360 I didn't have that opportunity that I was on my own as I was fucking 16, trying to figure out 0.97
00:22:12.540 how to fucking survive. 0.97
00:22:13.500 Like, yeah, I didn't have the luxury of like trying to do some fucking art because I was making YouTube 0.99
00:22:16.880 videos when I was 13, making thousands of dollars before I even fucking left the house. 0.85
00:22:20.520 Like, we don't all have those same opportunities.
00:22:22.460 Bro, I was never making a lot of money.
00:22:23.240 That's like the point that I'm trying to make to people.
00:22:24.480 But it's hard to understand if you don't have that perspective.
00:22:26.620 I was working retail since 16. 0.99
00:22:28.640 Well, at 16, I was like fucking fucking Nick for Nichols until that happened. 0.98
00:22:32.060 Bro, I was never making a lot of money. 0.99
00:22:32.680 I'm not assuming that you're rich on YouTube, but like you're going home at three o'clock to make 0.96
00:22:36.000 fucking YouTube videos and you're practicing for your future career at 14 and I'm staying after 0.99
00:22:39.100 school for three hours every day doing janitorial work to pay for my fucking high school 1.00
00:22:41.960 diploma. 0.99
00:22:42.480 Like, not everybody has the same opportunities in life.
00:22:44.640 Don't forget night school to get extra credits. 1.00
00:22:46.860 You can't just be like, oh shit, like, I just learned all of this shit in one fucking month. 1.00
00:22:50.240 Like, you didn't learn it in a month. 1.00
00:22:51.200 Like, people are preparing for their future careers by the time they're in sixth grade.
00:22:54.240 Like, you just don't realize it yet. 0.95
00:22:55.240 You think you can just teach it in like two fucking months on like an internet course. 0.88
00:22:57.760 The fact that you think that you can be a YouTube editor and be making like decent money 0.99
00:23:02.040 by one month of education is crazy.
00:23:04.380 Like, you don't see how much work went into you getting to the place that you're at.
00:23:07.040 You just see that like you succeeded and you think everybody can do it like relatively easily.
00:23:10.460 It's not easy.
00:23:11.000 It's a lifetime spent of work.
00:23:11.940 It's not a get rich quick scheme either, which you keep implying it is.
00:23:14.280 That's not what it is at all.
00:23:15.260 One month is quick.
00:23:16.700 I know that you're young, but you're not that young, bro.
00:23:18.440 One month to be a pro YouTube editor?
00:23:20.160 I mastered Adobe Premiere in one month.
00:23:22.840 Facts.
00:23:23.620 Facts.
00:23:23.860 Okay.
00:23:24.220 You mastered it.
00:23:25.140 I mastered it.
00:23:26.660 Master is a strong word.
00:23:27.940 I think you became very functional to the point where you're very good at using it.
00:23:30.800 But master is a different thing.
00:23:31.800 I will say I do agree with Sneeko and that people who have these dreams should give it
00:23:36.260 a shot and should go for it.
00:23:38.200 100%.
00:23:38.580 Yeah.
00:23:39.260 It depends on the type of person you are.
00:23:41.780 I will also say, though, that oftentimes people who try to go and do these things realize
00:23:47.440 that it's not what they actually want.
00:23:49.440 There's the idea of being a YouTuber, which Sneeko can understand.
00:23:52.920 And then there's actually being a YouTuber, which is completely different.
00:23:56.140 Right?
00:23:56.380 You guys know this from the back end, all the editing that you have to do, all the managing
00:24:00.300 the channel, all the dealing with the comments, all the researching for the topics.
00:24:04.480 Once people realize what kind of labor is involved, a lot of them all of a sudden don't want
00:24:07.620 to do it, which is why a lot of people flame out.
00:24:09.480 They stop doing it very early on or they'll switch career paths because they're like,
00:24:12.220 I don't actually enjoy doing this.
00:24:14.000 So having a dream and giving up on it isn't necessarily always a bad thing.
00:24:18.400 Sometimes it's not what you actually want.
00:24:20.380 Do you know what I'm trying to say, Sneeko? 0.95
00:24:21.660 Yeah.
00:24:22.600 Do you agree with me on that?
00:24:23.360 Because I know for me, originally I wanted to be a professional dancer.
00:24:26.380 So moving down to LA, seeing what the industry was like and seeing what the professional
00:24:29.380 dancing was like, I'm like, I actually don't want to do.
00:24:31.860 I hate doing this. 0.99
00:24:33.280 This professional world is actually trash. 0.97
00:24:35.560 So for me, the pivot came from there. 0.96
00:24:37.200 You can look at me, Sneeko, and say I gave up on my dream.
00:24:39.180 But the reality is, if I had pursued my dream the way that you're saying, keep going for
00:24:43.240 it, I would have been miserable.
00:24:46.500 So I pivoted to something else.
00:24:47.480 You hung up your dancing shoes, dude. 1.00
00:24:48.260 Fuck you. 1.00
00:24:49.100 What was that? 1.00
00:24:49.860 You hung up your dancing shoes. 1.00
00:24:51.040 Fuck you. 1.00
00:24:52.200 I still go out dancing every week, but for me, it's not for me. 1.00
00:24:56.380 I cannot picture you dancing, bro.
00:24:58.360 That was the last thing I expected you to say.
00:25:00.540 I can picture him dancing, bro.
00:25:02.060 Come on.
00:25:02.260 What, me?
00:25:02.960 I'm fine.
00:25:03.800 I'm fine.
00:25:04.900 Next time I'm Miami, we'll go to a salsa club.
00:25:07.560 Ooh.
00:25:08.420 Bro, he's from Montreal. 1.00
00:25:09.380 Those motherfuckers know how to dance up there, let me tell you. 1.00
00:25:11.580 Yeah, yeah. 1.00
00:25:11.940 But moving past that, earlier you mentioned Myron and how he did his pivot and then had
00:25:19.460 his whole real estate thing going on that's kind of helped him finance his life.
00:25:25.700 Myron also was like a federal agent for some time, if I didn't fuck that up.
00:25:29.500 And he worked at that office.
00:25:31.580 One good thing that I say about schooling, schooling doesn't always come in the form of
00:25:34.700 college.
00:25:35.540 A lot of the greatest saxophone musicians, they got their education through church.
00:25:39.760 They were part of huge choirs for many, many years, and they were given on to be the best
00:25:42.780 players in the world.
00:25:44.840 I know for me personally, the military was like a very functional thing.
00:25:47.720 Like when I was coming out of school, if I were to try to pursue my dreams, I'd probably
00:25:50.700 be involved in just doing drugs every single day.
00:25:52.760 Whereas because I went to the military, that kind of schooling and formation helped me develop
00:25:57.840 some skills that are really good for me now in the artistic world.
00:26:02.560 And Myron's pretty similar in that when you said this, Destiny, when you went to Fresh
00:26:07.400 and Fit, right, you noticed how everything was organized, how on top of everything he
00:26:10.540 was.
00:26:10.860 He didn't get that because he was an 18-year-old decided he wanted to pursue his dreams.
00:26:14.500 He got that from professional development in school and work.
00:26:18.500 Do you get what I'm trying to say?
00:26:19.680 By being part of the COG, he learned the skills necessary for him to be good at his
00:26:22.680 independence.
00:26:23.460 Am I crazy for saying that?
00:26:24.580 Yeah.
00:26:24.940 I feel like you have to work a few years out of your life to get that structure in.
00:26:29.440 The most successful people are structured.
00:26:31.300 That's what you need in life.
00:26:32.320 At 30, he finally found what he wanted to do, and he finally really followed his true
00:26:36.600 calling.
00:26:37.260 And I think it's dangerous for a lot of young men, and I think the reason that I'm doing
00:26:40.320 well right now is because when they hear, like you guys are all like, what, 10 years
00:26:43.620 older than me?
00:26:44.240 When they hear people like you who are encouraging having a safe place and having like comfort
00:26:48.240 and complacency, that's why a lot of people end up giving up.
00:26:51.300 But we're all agreeing on the fact that it takes hard work.
00:26:54.540 You need to go figure out the right, seek out the right information.
00:26:56.680 You need to network.
00:26:57.840 And so if they follow you guys, they're going to give up.
00:27:00.340 And I think it's drilled out of us that we should give up too soon when you really can
00:27:04.480 make it out.
00:27:05.200 You can.
00:27:05.900 I'm proof of it.
00:27:07.680 I don't disagree with you.
00:27:09.180 Bro, I think.
00:27:10.360 Hold on.
00:27:10.680 I don't disagree with you, son.
00:27:11.800 I actually agree with you.
00:27:12.700 What I'm trying to say is that there's a lot of people who go through different journeys to get
00:27:15.240 to that point, they can't just come out of college or come out of high school and then
00:27:18.780 automatically jump into it.
00:27:19.960 Some people don't have the skill set to be successful entrepreneurs.
00:27:22.540 That is things that sometimes you need to develop for some folks in a condensed or like
00:27:27.680 closed environment where you learn skill sets.
00:27:29.840 You might be different in the sense that you are very self-taught.
00:27:33.120 You can learn skills on your own.
00:27:34.300 That's great.
00:27:34.920 There's other people I know who need mentoring and need to learn these skills from other
00:27:38.200 people on a hands-on.
00:27:39.440 There's some folks who need to be disciplined.
00:27:41.560 Like I know some rowdy niggas who listen. 1.00
00:27:43.060 They need a closed space. 1.00
00:27:44.700 They need to be in the military for a few years to get that shit beat out of them because 0.99
00:27:47.440 there's no way that they're going to make it two, three years without going to jail. 0.99
00:27:50.780 So what I'm trying to say is I don't disagree with what you're saying.
00:27:53.380 People shouldn't give up on those dreams.
00:27:54.840 I just don't think everyone has to take the same course.
00:27:56.840 For some people, maybe it's two years in college.
00:27:58.480 They make some friends.
00:27:59.400 They learn a few skills and then they go somewhere else.
00:28:01.720 For some people, maybe it's five years in college or some folks, it's two years being
00:28:04.760 a federal agent. 0.99
00:28:05.760 I don't know what the fuck it is. 0.99
00:28:07.340 I guess my only disagreement with you is not in regards to going after your dreams. 0.99
00:28:11.300 I just, I don't like the fact that you kind of always pigeonhole it.
00:28:13.920 It's like being formed is bad or school is bad.
00:28:17.160 Like why is that something that you're so focused on?
00:28:19.660 And so just as a real quick, a question on that, I would be so curious and I can honestly
00:28:22.900 see him answering either way, but I'm curious if we could ask Myron, if you could have skipped 0.98
00:28:28.020 being a Fed and gone right into like the YouTube shit, do you think that would have been better 0.97
00:28:31.360 if you could have started earlier? 0.99
00:28:32.500 Assuming you don't know what you know now and like it just started, or if he thought
00:28:34.880 that like the prior work experience problem, I'm curious what he'd say.
00:28:36.700 He could go either way.
00:28:37.800 He might say that like it was a waste of time.
00:28:39.900 Myron's fresh and fit, yeah?
00:28:41.140 Yeah.
00:28:41.780 He wouldn't do it.
00:28:43.440 He loved that job and he misses it.
00:28:45.080 He liked the high intensity of it.
00:28:47.900 I don't think he would ever take it back.
00:28:49.540 Right.
00:28:49.980 And I think I would say all rich people, all millionaires would not go change their life
00:28:54.720 path because you need those experiences to appreciate where you're at.
00:28:58.800 So it sounds like...
00:28:59.280 Not just appreciate.
00:29:00.140 Sorry, go ahead.
00:29:00.780 Not just appreciate.
00:29:01.380 You're right.
00:29:01.800 Not just appreciate, but also to learn the lessons and take the L's on the way there.
00:29:05.020 Like all of it is part of where you're at now.
00:29:09.620 Absolutely.
00:29:10.260 Like the skills I learned, like listen, I would never go back to the military, but the
00:29:13.260 limited time that I did spend in there taught me...
00:29:16.080 Look, I didn't have any like mentoring growing up.
00:29:19.000 So me going to the military, it was like a big slap in the face in a lot of ways and I 0.97
00:29:22.140 had to learn how fucked up I was in a lot. 0.95
00:29:24.540 And that afterwards helped me develop all the skill sets I need so that when I went into 0.95
00:29:28.320 the arts world, I was ahead of a lot of other people because artists live chaotic lives
00:29:32.100 with zero discipline.
00:29:32.840 So I got ahead very quickly learning editing skills, learning music editing skills, learning
00:29:38.000 how to film, doing all this stuff because I was driven to me how to be on top of things.
00:29:42.020 So what I'm trying to say is that environment gave me the skills I needed to therefore become
00:29:47.500 a great entrepreneur afterwards.
00:29:49.040 Even the guy who runs what's the channel called?
00:29:51.000 Value Entertainment.
00:29:52.020 Dude's got like a net worth of like $200 million.
00:29:54.300 You know what I'm talking about?
00:29:55.000 He just invited me to go on.
00:29:55.980 Yeah.
00:29:56.880 Okay.
00:29:57.260 Him. 0.99
00:29:57.460 He was also what, Navy SEAL or some shit? 0.98
00:30:01.000 He says that all the skills that he learned from that time in the military helped him 0.98
00:30:05.620 transition afterwards into being the best entrepreneur he could be.
00:30:08.720 So this whole idea of immediately chasing your dreams, sometimes you're not even in the
00:30:12.300 right mindset to even know what that's supposed to look like.
00:30:14.580 You get what I'm trying to say?
00:30:15.260 I just don't understand the point of like giving up.
00:30:17.960 Like, so you're, I feel like if we were 10 years younger and around Sneeko's age, we 0.96
00:30:21.560 probably could fucking agree with him on this.
00:30:23.820 We'd be like, yeah, chase your dreams, go after it. 0.98
00:30:25.500 But like, yeah, we are older.
00:30:27.040 We have been through a lot.
00:30:28.060 We had like life experience.
00:30:29.360 We've seen like, we've had our structure from other areas built in.
00:30:33.880 I think if I look at Myron being a federal agent, like that structure and that like understanding
00:30:37.980 of the world is what allows him to be a successful YouTuber, right?
00:30:41.140 Like when you mentioned people in the like social media space, right?
00:30:43.920 I think we all can agree.
00:30:44.800 People who are in here, like there's a level of like structure you have to have.
00:30:48.720 There's, there's a certain grind that you have to be like willing to be in willing to
00:30:52.980 participate that allows you to succeed. 0.97
00:30:54.460 And it goes beyond just understanding algorithms and all that bullshit.
00:30:58.260 When it comes to like, you know, having a structure and having like stability in your
00:31:02.260 life that you can then use to chase your dreams 10 years down the road that, I mean, like
00:31:07.220 that's what we're trying to say at the end of the day, right?
00:31:09.040 Like it's not giving up. 0.99
00:31:10.080 Sometimes it's like, bro, you know, fucking you, you take a certain path in your life. 1.00
00:31:15.180 All right. 1.00
00:31:16.220 And that maybe that'll like give you a, maybe that'll change your perspective on shit. 0.99
00:31:20.200 Maybe that'll change what your dreams actually really fucking are down the road. 0.99
00:31:23.360 You know, like I always wanted to be a fucking lawyer, but I didn't do that. 0.99
00:31:26.840 I ended up being a fucking engineer because I don't have the fucking money to go to law 1.00
00:31:29.560 school and shit. 1.00
00:31:30.180 I thought, you know, when I look at my life now, I think, Hey, did I, would you think 0.99
00:31:33.740 that I gave up or did I take the situation that I had and made something out of it?
00:31:37.820 You know?
00:31:38.260 And now I'm happy where I'm at. 0.99
00:31:39.220 What do you think now I think I'm in the right fucking place? 0.99
00:31:41.320 Yeah. 0.98
00:31:41.560 So what do you say to that?
00:31:42.840 I want to, I want to ask, um, also when destiny comes back, what do you think is a genuinely,
00:31:46.960 what do you think is a better place for young men to go to?
00:31:49.900 Do you think it's better for them to hear my ideology or your three or you seem to, I
00:31:55.460 know you might have, what do you think is my ideology?
00:31:57.780 I'm curious.
00:31:58.160 What do you think my prescription is?
00:31:59.780 I think you align with destiny for the most part.
00:32:02.160 What does that mean?
00:32:03.020 What does that mean?
00:32:03.620 Tell me what, what you think I think about this stuff.
00:32:07.180 Destiny was saying, encouraging people to go to college and that it's unrealistic for
00:32:11.900 you to chase your dreams, that you shouldn't try to be an online entrepreneur, that you
00:32:15.220 should get a job, a well-paying job and be part of the system.
00:32:19.640 That's not my prescription.
00:32:21.080 Okay.
00:32:21.200 That's not my prescription.
00:32:21.740 My prescription is, is, is pretty much closer to Jordan Peterson, which is like clean your 0.99
00:32:26.240 room or like get your shit together. 0.97
00:32:27.720 I think most young men have zero order in their life. 1.00
00:32:30.280 Their lives are chaotic. 0.96
00:32:31.220 They spend most of the day masturbating, watching anime or do whatever. 0.98
00:32:34.100 I think men need order in some sense of discipline. 0.97
00:32:36.660 That's what I would encourage. 0.99
00:32:37.840 Being where you get out in the military, get that on the job, whatever the fuck you need. 0.99
00:32:41.360 You need to get that shit sorted before you even think about changing the world or 0.99
00:32:45.000 doing any of this kind of stuff. 0.99
00:32:46.140 So I can't take people seriously when they look schizophrenic, but they're trying to,
00:32:49.480 I don't take them seriously. 1.00
00:32:50.860 So you need to be a fucking man first. 1.00
00:32:53.040 Yeah. 1.00
00:32:53.360 You need to be a fucking man first. 1.00
00:32:54.060 So that would be my thing. 1.00
00:32:54.900 So I don't care if you want to jump on a fishing boat and spend a year out there getting
00:32:58.960 tuna.
00:32:59.360 I don't care what it is.
00:33:00.560 I think men need to get that discipline aspect in their life.
00:33:03.600 That would be my prescription to young men. 0.69
00:33:05.980 Do you disagree with that?
00:33:06.840 No, that's good.
00:33:07.440 Yeah.
00:33:07.580 You need, you need to have something to base that off.
00:33:09.740 I don't, I think Destiny would disagree with you.
00:33:12.780 Listen, Destiny can come back and he can disagree with that, but yeah, I think
00:33:16.120 whenever I speak to young guys, whenever I speak to young guys and they're like, I feel
00:33:19.200 lost.
00:33:19.540 I'm like, I understand that because I was lost.
00:33:21.240 Okay.
00:33:21.740 So I can't even pretend the reason why I joined the military is because I was lost.
00:33:25.680 And I was like, I don't want to go to school.
00:33:26.900 So I'm very much like you sneak on that.
00:33:28.380 I'm a high school dropout, but I'm a high school dropout because school's not for me.
00:33:32.040 I have, I can't focus the classrooms, the speed, the pacing of it is not for me.
00:33:37.220 So I wasn't going to pay to waste my time.
00:33:39.220 So would you tell young men to go to school or would you tell them to try to seek out 0.99
00:33:43.040 a way to make money on their own?
00:33:45.300 See, again, it wouldn't be to go make money on their own.
00:33:48.320 What I would tell them to do is assume responsibilities in life.
00:33:50.940 Reason being is responsibilities test your character.
00:33:54.380 And once your character starts to get tested by the responsibilities and you start to figure
00:33:57.500 out who you are, once you have a better understanding of who you are, then figure out what your dream
00:34:01.220 is.
00:34:01.760 You get me? 0.99
00:34:02.320 Because honestly, at 17, I was a goofy ass individual. 1.00
00:34:04.960 If you asked me what my dream was, I probably would have told you something stupid. 1.00
00:34:07.280 Okay. 0.97
00:34:07.880 And I'm glad I didn't think of that because I didn't know myself well enough to know what
00:34:11.740 my dream should be. 1.00
00:34:12.760 So get responsibilities, be a man and take care of your shit. 0.99
00:34:16.960 So at 17, once you get disciplined, yeah, you change as a person to your personality changes. 0.99
00:34:22.260 I was not the same person I was when I was like 16, 17 years of age.