SNEAKO - SNEAKO VS. Destiny Political Debate in the US Senate!

00:00:00.720 they're calling it extremist content it is what we're talking about is pretty extreme

00:00:06.560 yeah it isn't extremist content like al-qaeda that's pretty extreme too do you think extremist

00:00:11.360 content is only al-qaeda me on disco me and you on discord this is extremist content

00:00:17.440 are we talking about like fuentes's views on like race realism or something right now isn't

00:00:21.200 that what this is about no one who said race realism who said i don't know isn't that that's

00:00:25.520 what i'm guessing because isn't this cut from a fuentes conversation is not where this is coming

00:00:28.720 from yeah it was me uh with fuentes on okay so that so might be extremist i don't know we'll listen to

00:00:33.600 it or is he talking about like jewish yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah okay well then that is extremist

00:00:39.920 content what the panels bro it's only extremist if they don't like it if it's yours no it's

00:00:46.560 extremist because by definition it represents an extreme fringe on the political spectrum why not

00:00:51.200 many people okay but why is it not extreme that they want to turn this off why is it not extreme

00:00:56.000 that deep platforming is regular why is it not extreme that the constitution is dissolving and

00:01:00.320 people like me and you care more about freedom of speech than the fucking feds than literal 0.87

00:01:04.720 senators that's unfortunately today that's not an extremist opinion right so you using that word 0.89

00:01:10.320 extreme is kind of it's diluted it doesn't mean anything anymore what's extreme is that the basic

00:01:15.280 rights that built this country are going away and this is normal maybe this is an extreme maybe

00:01:20.480 were normal and maybe they're the extreme ones yeah i don't necessarily disagree we're just talking

00:01:26.480 about like what is out of the norm for beliefs i think that's generally what extremist means right

00:01:31.520 like when the united states was founded it was an extreme idea to have such an unbelievably

00:01:35.680 segmented government with so many like abilities for the government to cock block itself that was

00:01:40.480 considered like an extreme thing you know what they're trying to do when they use words like

00:01:43.760 extremist you know what they're trying like when the senator picks that word you know what he's trying

00:01:47.520 to do right he's trying to he's trying to scare people and trying to paint it in the same light

00:01:50.960 as a terrorist yeah the idea is we need to get rid of it if it's extreme yes so you try to justify

00:01:56.080 everything that these i'm not justifying hold on jesus i'm not justifying anything i'm just trying 0.97

00:02:00.080 to make sure we're using the same fucking words you're saying like is this extremist yeah of course 0.94

00:02:03.760 it's extremist listen this is where you're making the error because you're getting too heated 0.99

00:02:06.880 okay you're trying to make this argument like oh well it's not even extremist no 0.94

00:02:10.320 bullshit not only is your argument wrong because it is extremist it's bad because the point of the 0.91

00:02:14.000 the first amendment in the united states is to protect extremist content we should be able to 0.99

00:02:17.120 say yes it is extremist yeah it is alarming and yes we should be able to discuss it that's the

00:02:21.280 point of the united states not to try to pretend that things aren't extremist but to say yeah they

00:02:24.560 are extremist and we can protect it at the same time that's the point no my point is that most

00:02:28.800 people are bots and they don't say anything of value you're not responding to anything i'm saying

00:02:32.080 you're a bot you just did a bot script you just did a bot script to me i didn't even finish my point

00:02:36.400 because you're doing a bot script most people are bots that's not responding to anything i'm saying 1.00

00:02:39.280 let me finish my point watch out you're short-circuiting shut the fuck up everything 0.99

00:02:44.480 is extremist if you're not saying the basic level shit that everybody else is saying so if you have 0.99

00:02:48.240 a modicum of truth if you talk about something about the issues that are going on if you talk 0.98

00:02:51.600 about what's going on behind the scenes then you're an extremist it's not extreme it's not crazy maybe

00:02:56.880 everyone else is so surface level that if you go past it then they get scared and triggered

00:03:02.320 sure that might be the case but that's still i mean like definition it would be like extremist

00:03:05.760 content like people would say that you're like way outside the political norm yeah but you're

00:03:08.960 going past my point when i said when i'm trying to call out them saying extremist content you're

00:03:13.040 like well it's kind of extreme i'm like no this is the chairman of homeland security and he's using

00:03:19.600 that word that he also uses for al-qaeda he's bro if we have fuentes on saying like jewish people are

00:03:25.680 running the government of course that's an extremist statement okay but it's not just fuentes you said

00:03:30.640 that we're talking about extremist right now now you're gonna say it's fuentes you just said it's us

00:03:34.480 no no we are talking about extremist stuff not because we're talking about extremist stuff we're

00:03:40.800 talking about a thing that's happening that's extremist right now we're not having an extremist

00:03:44.080 conversation but we're talking about an extremist thing where the extremist thing is the panel that

00:03:47.120 we were on where we were actually talking about extremist things do you understand do you think this

00:03:50.960 senator senator peters chairman of the homeland security thinks that i'm an extremist uh probably yes

00:03:56.960 okay move on now you're late that's a different question than what we were talking about though

00:04:01.440 no it's not because you keep saying it's just nick fuentes when i'm trying to point out that this guy

00:04:04.880 thinks i'm an extremist too and he probably thinks you're an extremist that's why you got banned on

00:04:08.480 twitter and twitch that's not why i got banned on twitter and twitch okay listen he might think we're

00:04:12.800 an extremist but that's a fundamentally different question than is this extremist content as in

00:04:16.560 there's probably things that you talk about where it isn't extremist content but he might still think

00:04:20.160 you're an extremist nick fuentes could come on and talk about how he thinks that like our vote uh

00:04:24.080 isn't counting as much as it should he might be an extremist but that's not an extremist statement or extremist

00:04:28.080 content my point is that you should be a little bit alarmed that this guy's labeling us as extremists

00:04:34.320 and he probably thinks now the senate thinks that you're an extremist that's the point i'm trying to

00:04:38.240 get at and you're kind of missing yeah i think that's bad but these issues are way more far-reaching

00:04:42.400 and have and have been a problem for a long time i don't care if you think that's bad how come you're

00:04:45.920 not talking about it all and you how come you just are so quick to talk about it what are you talking 0.99

00:04:49.360 about you haven't talked about you haven't even watched this yet oh you're so quick to like suck off 0.87

00:04:52.720 hill dog and so i have the government i haven't talked about this particular video because in the

00:04:57.040 grand scheme of things it doesn't matter but yes it does it's the senate destiny bro the biggest

00:05:04.560 part of my content recently has been talking about how we should be able to have extremist 0.91

00:05:08.560 conversations it's why i talk to you so much on stream it's why i talk to nick fuentes so much

00:05:12.240 because i don't believe in the idea that just because we might think somebody has extreme views

00:05:15.200 and i think you do have some extreme views but that doesn't make me want to write your whole

00:05:17.520 character off and not have that conversation it's like probably the central thing that i've been

00:05:20.720 talking about the past like six months so just because i'm not fixating on one conversation

00:05:25.680 in congress doesn't mean that i'm quote unquote not talking about it that's not true what you

00:05:28.960 just said you think it's bad that they're labeling you an extremist and i haven't heard you talk about

00:05:32.480 that once yet you're just like well that's just government staffers watching this you don't even

00:05:36.240 care because this is like a drop in the bucket compared to like like all of the huge problems

00:05:40.960 relating to freedom of speech in our society right now this is a drop in the bucket the chairman of

00:05:45.520 homeland security saying that this is dangerous as a drop in the bucket this is serious to me

00:05:51.360 chat okay is this not fucking serious that's great that that's serious to you okay what's 0.91

00:05:57.040 serious what do you think is here what do you think is serious what i think is serious is that all of 0.95

00:06:01.360 the social media platforms seem to work in tandem to enforce these kind of arbitrary rules on things

00:06:07.680 relating to hate speech that can result in some people being almost permanently deleted from the

00:06:11.920 internet like andrew tate for no real reason or fucking donald trump simultaneously off of every 0.97

00:06:17.440 platform those are the types of movements that scare me i don't give a fuck about some random 0.92

00:06:20.720 congressional not to say that's not funny to watch we can watch it or that's entertaining but like

00:06:24.000 these are the huge problems that i think that are kind of like shaking the earth right now in terms

00:06:27.680 of freedom of speech in the united states it's how like large social media platforms are working in

00:06:31.440 tandem to enforce certain speech policies those are the things that like are worrying to me and if you

00:06:35.840 think that that's the biggest issue you realize that them talking about this is putting us in that same

00:06:39.760 bucket just like what happened i'm already in that bucket you're in that bucket too so why are you

00:06:45.200 not changing up your ideology now if the government is labeling you an extremist if you're gonna get

00:06:49.440 silenced pretty soon probably if they follow what you're talking about trump alex jones and now us

00:06:55.520 extremist fuentes why are you still just gaming and not watching this stuff and why are you not like

00:06:59.920 waking up to the fact that the government is against freedom of speech the government doesn't care

00:07:03.920 about the constitution destiny and you still trust them you still say hill dog they don't even care

00:07:08.080 about the constitution because the issue and this is the this is going to be the next part of your

00:07:13.520 evolution i'm giving you a sneak peek okay when you come out of your egg okay yeah the truth is is

00:07:18.160 that you're absolutely right the government doesn't give a about freedom of speech but it's not for the

00:07:23.040 reason that you think you think the government doesn't care about freedom of speech because the

00:07:26.480 government has some insidious plan to keep the citizens like uh not informed on all the issues

00:07:30.640 they're chilling blah blah the reality is is most americans don't give a about freedom of speech the

00:07:35.360 reality is that's true most americans pick and choose their particular beliefs based on whatever

00:07:39.840 supports their particular ideology at the time if there is an american that super disagrees with 0.96

00:07:44.160 what you're talking about he will do whatever the fuck he can to silence you i've seen conservatives 0.99

00:07:48.160 do it cernovich did it to people when he uh who did he get uh james gunn the the the fucking director 0.99

00:07:54.000 for guardians of the galaxy uh got kicked off guardians of the galaxy 2 because cernovich a conservative 0.97

00:07:58.640 came out and tried to blow him up over tweets from like 15 fucking years ago conservatives do this 0.99

00:08:02.560 shit all the time trump talked about expanding libel laws so they could sue the fucking media 0.99

00:08:06.080 for writing bad stories about him progressives do it all the time trying to ban people on social media 0.99

00:08:10.000 everybody wants to play fast and loose when it comes to our rights in the united states that's

00:08:13.760 the true that's the true red pill or black pill it's not the idea that the government is doing

00:08:17.280 it people are emotional people make mistakes and people get triggered and stuff like that even

00:08:20.560 i happen to my room before fresh and foot put a bunch of copyright strikes on channels that did not

00:08:24.160 deserve it because they were angry about what it says but they can admit that that's not what they're 0.87

00:08:27.040 supposed to do when trump wants to sue those companies for saying shit about him he probably knows that he's not 0.93

00:08:31.440 supposed to do that because we're emotional sometimes when you get that much heat but 0.91

00:08:34.880 ultimately yes most americans do care about freedom of speech i would how are you going to speak for

00:08:39.600 everybody and say that like what the first amendment of the constitution people don't care about isn't

00:08:44.480 that what makes this country different than china what makes all that's why we laugh at all the 1.00

00:08:47.920 countries that are communists that's completely against everything american we're not different as

00:08:52.720 people right that's the issue is that people biologically we're all working with the same 0.97

00:08:56.880 shit at the end of the day unless you're a race realist okay what's supposed to make us 0.95

00:09:00.480 different what's supposed to keep us different are our institutions that's what's supposed to 0.99

00:09:04.560 safeguard the beliefs that we think are foundational to what it means to be an american but the problem

00:09:09.840 is is if people change their minds long enough those institutions will change they will crumble

00:09:16.160 and over time they're going to reflect the beliefs of newer americans that think like oh yeah

00:09:19.760 fuck freedom of speech which is kind of the direction that we're headed in and i truly believe 0.96

00:09:23.360 that is the direction that we're headed in because conservatives don't give a 0.99

00:09:26.000 fuck about freedom of speech yes they do that's not true yes marjorie taylor green after she got 0.99

00:09:30.160 swatted from kiwi farms is literally saying shit like these websites shouldn't exist we should take 0.99

00:09:33.840 them down i gave you the cernovich james gunn example earlier i gave you president donald trump 0.98

00:09:37.520 who was literally talking about trying to sue media companies out of existence because he didn't

00:09:40.480 like what they were publishing about them the idea that conservatives believe in freedom of 0.96

00:09:43.760 speech is absolute bullshit they just do it when it's convenient to them look at look at 0.93

00:09:46.880 donald trump when he was running for president conservatives were celebrating him when he was 1.00

00:09:49.200 saying i want to jail americans that burn the american flag are you fucking kidding he's one of the most 0.97

00:09:53.440 important okay we have united states was he trying to sue media companies that were lying about him 0.99

00:09:58.320 or was he trying to sue people he says lying about him he just wants to sue he wants to sue people that

00:10:02.000 write mean things about him but look at you now you're even making excuses for trump do you think

00:10:05.600 the president of the united states should be talking about suing media companies that's wild if it's

00:10:10.080 deserved that they were lying on his name if they're posting false stories then that's a proper

00:10:13.920 use of suing that's yeah but the issue is remember what we said at the beginning of this

00:10:17.520 conversation everybody thinks they're pursuing truth everybody thinks that when you say something

00:10:21.280 that's not true you're lying those socialists those socialists that are actively trying to

00:10:25.920 get you canceled and who are mass supporting me they know damn well they're not for freedom of

00:10:29.680 speech if they post a video called youtube should ban sneeko there's not one part of them that thinks

00:10:34.320 that they're a truth seeker they know that i don't believe that's the case they have reasons for why

00:10:38.480 they do why the fuck can they not get into debate why are you the only lib bot who can get in a call 0.98

00:10:42.400 with me because they've got their own bullshit ideology to justify how they actually are pro-freedom of 0.98

00:10:46.800 speech i don't think i don't think they care about freedom of speech i think they they are an 0.96

00:10:50.880 extremist of you like what you think you're like i believe in liberal ideologies i'm a good i am

00:10:56.000 friendly i'm all excited i'll run it down right now for you okay ready 10 seconds okay there's

00:11:00.160 something called the paradox of intolerance what they're gonna or the paradox of tolerance what

00:11:02.800 they're gonna say is well actually we care about freedom of speech more than you care about freedom

00:11:05.920 of speech in a truly tolerant society if you're tolerant of people that are intolerant eventually

00:11:09.840 they're gonna play on that they're gonna abuse that your tolerance in order for them to take over and

00:11:13.520 then execute all the people that they disagree with so they understand that in order to have a

00:11:16.720 truly tolerant society they have to get rid of people that they perceive as being intolerant 0.89

00:11:20.400 that's why they're intolerant of people like far-right people nazis super conservatives or

00:11:23.840 whatever or trumples and you yeah people like me yes and you're not none of you no part of you is

00:11:29.440 radicalized that the people on your side are trying to get you bent because people on the right do it

00:11:33.040 too people in florida look at the desantis bill that everybody passed that everybody was so excited 0.99

00:11:37.200 about oh my god we can't bring up gay or whatever in fucking classrooms that we're going to be 0.99

00:11:40.800 executing we're going to be getting rid of gay authors because we're not sure if that's going 1.00

00:11:44.160 to be too much for children conservatives do it again on the other end too we're scared of trans 1.00

00:11:47.360 people talking to our kids because they're all groomers the fuck not every trans kid or trans 1.00

00:11:50.720 person wants to groom your child that's insane people do it everywhere nobody believes in this 1.00

00:11:54.640 shit nobody actually believes in the shit at the end of the day there are some but i do and that's 1.00

00:11:59.120 why i fight for what i do that's why i don't want to change my beliefs and pretend that people 0.99

00:12:02.320 on the right care about freedom of speech more than people on the left do yeah people on the left

00:12:05.440 today have more of the cultural power but back in the days when when conservatives ran 1.00

00:12:08.480 shit they didn't want to see gay people or trans people in fucking movies or on tv they talk all 1.00

00:12:12.000 the time about how that shit was evil and corrupting society fuck back then they would try to cancel you 1.00

00:12:15.360 if you were a guy that wore an earring and you weren't black right but you listen to people you 1.00

00:12:20.800 listen people who are getting banned and silence off every social media platform right now what do they

00:12:25.520 believe in tate alex jones donald trump nick fuentes what side are they on they believe in freedom

00:12:30.640 of speech right now because it benefits them okay i think they believe in freedom of speech

00:12:34.560 what but man dude back when these guys had more power online i noticed this that's what's

00:12:37.920 caused me because i'm talking about the current issues right now what live who thinks like you

00:12:42.720 what hillary supporter is getting banned on social media what socialists who's trying to many of them

00:12:46.560 but they don't they don't need freedom of speech they have the majority power this is why freedom

00:12:50.160 of speech is so important it's because it's supposed to protect the minority opinion obviously people

00:12:53.600 in the minority are more in favor of freedom of speech than people in the majority that's why

00:12:56.640 back 10 15 20 years ago queer communities everything were way more in favor of freedom of speech 0.99

00:13:00.080 of course they were talking about how important that shit was okay so like if the truth lies 0.96

00:13:03.680 somewhere in the middle and you're saying that they have majority power these socialist 0.99

00:13:06.720 fucking feelings over facts people these liberal bots if they have all the control right now and 0.99

00:13:11.360 you're actively trying to seek the truth then why aren't you trying to balance it out why are you 0.99

00:13:14.800 still saying that you're on their side when you know i'm not on the side look at we you already

00:13:18.640 said earlier you said this 20 times i'm not talking about a side and then you keep saying you understand

00:13:21.200 i'm not on their side you're not on my side you you call yourself a liberal you follow liberal

00:13:25.120 ideologies because i have liberal ideologies and i don't know on their side okay if that's how in your

00:13:31.040 world if that's how your brain organizes things don't try to patronize me is that not true are you not on

00:13:35.920 their side yes or are you not do you agree with every single thing that myron says do you agree

00:13:39.440 with every single thing that andrew tate says no but i would say on their side okay then roughly

00:13:44.960 on the side of like progressive left-leaning ideas that's roughly true but i don't agree with 0.82

00:13:49.040 all the deep platforming shit i don't agree with like the the incessant attacks on our freedom of 0.75

00:13:53.040 speech so why are you spending more time and energy and trying to fix that you're still dude 0.98

00:13:57.120 that's my whole platform that's what i do that's why i'm banned from twitch i was streaming

00:14:01.520 on platform for 12 years and i got banned because i felt strongly about the um trans women competing

00:14:06.160 against cis women in sports i didn't think that was a good thing all right let's keep watching this 0.99

00:14:09.920 we forgot one of the tools your teams build to increase your company's audiences and profits

00:14:18.000 extremists use the products you designed to recruit and radicalize followers and plot attacks

00:14:24.880 including the january 6th attack on the capital our democracy and our nation there's no question

00:14:32.480 that there is a relationship between social media amplification of this extremist content and the

00:14:39.840 rise we have seen in hate crimes and domestic terrorist attacks that mark there we go he's equating

00:14:45.520 this content extremist content which you both you established that we're extremists he's saying

00:14:50.080 that there's a rise on domestic terrorist attacks because of this content is that not true it might

00:14:54.480 that might be true though again hold on this is where you gotta this is where you have to take

00:14:59.440 the how is that true who's it i'll count let me know when you're done and i'll tell you how

00:15:02.880 it's go ahead tell me tell me tell me what terrorist attacks i've inspired tell me what terrorist attacks

00:15:07.520 you've inspired okay so what happens is is if you believe in freedom of speech okay you have to be

00:15:13.440 an adult and you have to accept that there are consequences to your freedom of speech the first

00:15:17.120 amendment is not free and if you pretend that it is you don't have the inclination to learn about it

00:15:22.000 or or the the maturity to grapple with the massive and awesome consequences of that freedom right when

00:15:27.280 we have the freedom to speak how we want you also have to accept that there's a trade-off to that

00:15:31.280 there are going to be extremist attacks that are inspired arguably some of the people look at the 0.99

00:15:35.040 christchurch shooter that dude was like rambling off a whole bunch of shit you could find on 0.98

00:15:38.000 fucking youtube and i'm sure that the buffalo shooter was probably the same rambling off a whole 1.00

00:15:41.680 bunch of shit that i can find on fucking youtube or even fucking tucker carlson talking about it 1.00

00:15:45.040 but that's okay you can own that you can say yeah there might be some attacks that are inspired 1.00

00:15:48.640 by things by youtube or by things on on tv but that doesn't mean we should get rid of it you have to

00:15:52.320 be able to own the consequences of the things you advocate for freedom of speech is a really good

00:15:56.000 freedom to defend but there absolutely are consequences for it there's nothing wrong with admitting that

00:16:01.440 so it's our fault the church you could blame the church shooter on this content i don't i would have

00:16:06.800 to go i don't know if he released a specific manifesto but like yeah you have to be able to

00:16:11.040 say at the end of the day that there might be people that do extremist things because of things

00:16:14.160 they found online so do you think do you think that we have no influence on the people listening

00:16:16.960 to us so the senator is trying to hold us accountable for that saying it's dangerous

00:16:20.480 should we be held accountable for when there's a terrorist attack and some dude has an ideology 0.97

00:16:25.040 that probably lines up maybe lines up with some shit that we're saying on youtube is that are we 0.96

00:16:29.440 responsible for that it maybe i don't know it's a yes or no question no it's not hold on it's not a yes 0.99

00:16:36.640 or no question what an unbelievably stupid way to grasp with such an important point right if i start 0.98

00:16:43.360 going on my stream every day about how dumb it is that women get life for free and and they don't 1.00

00:16:48.240 have to do shit and they just have to look pretty and no woman is homeless and blah blah blah blah 0.99

00:16:51.680 blah and eventually i've got a guy that listens to my content for 10 hours and he goes out and 1.00

00:16:55.120 he starts murdering fucking women that are pretty i get like an elliot rogers in my community and 0.99

00:16:59.280 somebody comes to me like are you responsible for that yes or no i don't know that's a really 1.00

00:17:02.800 complicated question you have to be able to have a complicated it's yes it is it's super complicated

00:17:06.960 you're not responsible for other people's actions and unless you completely if you directly tell

00:17:11.120 someone hey go shoot up a church then you're not responsible for it people get to act on their own

00:17:16.400 volition we don't hold responsibility for all the what are you talking about i'm responsible for the

00:17:20.720 7 000 people watching this i like anything they do yeah okay okay not anything they do no again

00:17:26.800 not anything they do but when they shoot up a church depends on what you talk about depends on

00:17:30.880 the type of energy you're putting out there but like you'll say okay but we know this on one

00:17:35.360 end you're going to tell me people can make their own choices blah blah blah blah blah what do you

00:17:38.320 tell a recovering drug addict what's the most important thing they can do to recover from

00:17:41.280 drugs get rid of your friends call me mine's calling okay be careful

SNEAKO - September 19, 2022

SNEAKO VS. Destiny Political Debate in the US Senate!

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