SNEAKO - SNEAKO VS NICK FUENTES (UNCENSORED)

00:00:00.000 hey there we are hey how you doing i'm good how are you doing i'm good i'm tired i've been

00:00:06.000 streaming for a while we were watching some uh degenerate alcoholic content but it's funny i

00:00:10.000 don't know what you think about like steve will do it and all that oh yeah i've never been a huge

00:00:14.180 fan of that kind of stuff are you you're real into uh that he's with the nelk guys right yeah

00:00:20.400 i've been hanging out with them a little bit they're they're in the area and plus they're

00:00:23.200 fellow rumbler so i'm gonna support people on on this new platform and i didn't know you stream

00:00:28.920 on rumble too yeah yeah i started multi-streaming on rumble uh you know just because you want to

00:00:35.080 get as much crossover obviously this is my main platform but yeah i saw so it was today or uh

00:00:40.500 yesterday was that your first stream on rumble yesterday was my first stream today's day two

00:00:44.640 and i'm just going strong but streaming for four and a half hours i'm gonna keep on trying to run

00:00:48.560 it up on this free speech platform i thought you were banned on here i just assumed that you were

00:00:51.780 banned on everything except for cozy no yeah i mean so the thing with rumble and with some of these

00:00:57.700 other platforms is they do have a terms of service you know trump got signed on to rumble i think at

00:01:04.700 the beginning of this year or maybe sometime last year and for him to come on the platform they

00:01:09.580 forced them to adopt this like big tos and they haven't banned me yet but it includes all the things

00:01:16.560 that twitter's includes that instagram's includes and so out of an abundance of caution it's like well

00:01:21.940 i don't want to take the same chance with an alt platform as with the mainstream platform with the

00:01:26.920 you know the hate speech terms of service that that aspect of it so um so i'm kind of one foot

00:01:32.800 in and one foot out i really wanted to do a podcast i was thinking about people that i could do a

00:01:37.100 spotify podcast with and i was thinking yo it would have been great and chat i texted nick yesterday i'm

00:01:41.340 like let's do a spotify podcast like how did you get better i thought that was a free speech platform

00:01:45.840 how do you get banned on spotify they uh so you know they were calling on spotify to ban yay and take

00:01:51.900 all his music off and they came on and said well we really can't ban his music because his music isn't

00:01:57.040 hateful they said we can only ban hateful hateful content so like podcasts about politics about you

00:02:04.360 know so-called white supremacy or whatever so yeah i mean i'm just i'm banned on everything man you see

00:02:10.640 you see the treatment they're giving to people um what about you are you have you been banned for

00:02:15.300 anything else since youtube and everything back in the summer twitch twitter tiktok i'm still good on

00:02:21.220 instagram good on rumble and good on spotify but i yesterday i watched uh someone made a

00:02:26.560 documentary called the devastating demise of sneko um a leftist with he him and it was that was a big

00:02:34.160 hit to my career for first talking to you even then like they were talking about how um you're using me

00:02:39.980 to spread your anti-semitic white supremacy how i went down the alt-right pipeline and how i'm laughing

00:02:46.620 along with a white supremacist and all that um but he was even mentioning did you go to the charleston

00:02:54.440 uh nazi rally i don't think he went there did you charlottesville yeah i went to charlottesville

00:02:59.380 charlottesville what was that about so it's sort of a long story because and i'll try and keep it short

00:03:05.740 but um so that that was the first year that i did my show i started my show february 2017 and that was

00:03:12.060 august 2017 and you know the way that it was advertised at the time was that it was anti-immigration

00:03:19.140 it was about the robert e lee monument they were going to rename the robert e lee park and the

00:03:24.820 robert e lee monument uh in charlottesville around the university of virginia and so i thought that it

00:03:31.380 was going to be like a mainstream event i was told that faith goldie was going to be there and she used 1.00

00:03:35.720 to work for the rebel the rebel is like this jewish publication in canada they were very like soft

00:03:41.860 gavin mcginnis was i thought was going i was told sam hyde was going um so i was under the impression

00:03:49.620 because they called it unite the right i was under the impression like all the right-wing people are

00:03:53.880 going to be there and then i went there and uh well not all those people were there faith goldie was

00:03:58.700 there but then she got fired for being there and some people never showed up um so you know i was never

00:04:05.300 on board with the you know richard spencer and mike enoch i was never really with that crowd but i wound up

00:04:11.460 there um you know protesting immigration why what are your thoughts on that are you do you do you think

00:04:17.380 differently of me because you know that that i was at charlottesville um depends on how much you

00:04:21.660 supported it and how much like you if you if you didn't know what it was going to be about were you 0.67

00:04:28.000 there burning swastikas and like with the flags and shit no no the um so there were two main events 0.94

00:04:35.680 the friday that was the night before they did the tiki torch thing and that's where they said you know 0.92

00:04:40.500 jews will not replace us and i wasn't even in the city i flew in the saturday morning uh the following 0.93

00:04:46.620 morning for the big rally which was at lee park i didn't even get to it i literally i could probably

00:04:52.320 find my old plane tickets i should probably do that at some point because i've been telling this story

00:04:56.380 for years i probably flew to charlottesville i think i got in at like 10 30 a.m got to my hotel at 11

00:05:02.900 by the time i left my hotel they had dispersed the main rally so i was i was there for probably like

00:05:09.580 two or three hours just sort of like looking for what was going on the riot police had already shut

00:05:15.400 off the all access to lee park um and so i met up with a few people that i knew at the time uh james

00:05:21.900 also britney venti i saw there and uh some other people and then i just went back to my hotel and i

00:05:28.280 flew out the next morning and that was that and you know since then people have accused me of being

00:05:33.020 like a nazi because i was there well i was really barely even there and and again i was there because it

00:05:38.620 was anti-immigration and supporting the robert e lee monument the renaming of the park and

00:05:44.120 the toppling of the statue so you're a fan of robert e lee um well i'm a northerner so robert e lee

00:05:52.460 doesn't mean very much to me you know robert e lee really means more to southerners but um and and i do

00:05:59.200 like robert e lee for what it's worth but it's not like i'm a fan boy or something uh but i am against

00:06:04.860 the destruction of all these monuments i'm against the renaming of the the parks and the buildings

00:06:10.240 and the military bases what do you feel about all that i think it's a part of history and but i'm

00:06:19.100 definitely not a fan of the confederacy but i don't think that they should get rid of history

00:06:22.740 but also celebrating these people who are probably for slavery is not the best idea no

00:06:29.860 he lee he he in particular is a sort of remarkable figure because he he said that he agreed with the

00:06:38.040 cause of the north but he fought for the south because that was his home you know that was what

00:06:42.240 he considered to be his nation he felt an affinity for i think he was from what virginia again i'm i'm

00:06:48.620 not even really uh a civil war history buff or anything but you know but there are attributes

00:06:55.640 about robert e lee besides the necessarily the particularity of the time or his side that was

00:07:01.480 admirable he was a brilliant general he was courageous he was patriotic uh for his side you

00:07:06.740 know for for the south and so and i'm not even a southerner but i still respect it so um are you

00:07:13.080 afraid of this type of stuff because you you've been at a lot of the biggest protests and the biggest

00:07:19.120 gatherings that most of the mainstream is against so do you think about the long-term consequences of

00:07:27.280 this stuff because if you're truly america first isn't it better to not associate with these types

00:07:33.240 of events like what like charlottesville and and what else and january 6th i obviously you didn't know

00:07:41.100 that it was going to end up like that but charlottesville especially well with charlottesville

00:07:46.060 again it was about uh as far as i was concerned it was about a few things which was anti-immigration

00:07:52.560 and it was about it was against this this tie to remove all the statues and if you see it's you look

00:07:59.860 at where this thing is going i would i would probably say do we have to defend necessarily every single

00:08:05.380 one in a vacuum maybe not but as always them going after these particular oh this confederate general

00:08:13.360 or nathaniel bedford forrest where exactly do you draw the line as to who is necessarily the

00:08:19.000 most defensible i don't know but then they go for george washington the next day then they go for

00:08:23.760 thomas jefferson right that's a different story i think people who are supporting the confederacy i

00:08:28.800 can understand them getting rid of that statue that makes sense to me because of the direction of the

00:08:33.440 country and being anti-slavery that makes sense the founding fathers i don't think you could put in the

00:08:37.680 same category as people who wanted to secede from the nation if you're america first why are you in

00:08:42.340 supportive people who are literally anti-america they're trying to leave the country because it's

00:08:47.560 part of our heritage as a country it's part of our heritage as a nation and and there's something

00:08:52.240 about respecting the nation you know because i got here my family got here four or five generations ago

00:08:58.200 my family got here after the civil war and so to me because i see what you're saying and i get it

00:09:03.740 it's not like i'm not hearing you but you know my family got here after the initial colonies were

00:09:10.940 established in the 17th century after the founding after the civil war which was the deadliest war in

00:09:16.360 american history what is it for me who again ancestors got here all of after all that to say

00:09:23.260 actually america's not about that like these confederates aren't real americans the confederates

00:09:28.860 were on the american continent for hundreds of years the southerners were there for hundreds of

00:09:32.740 years we may not agree with the cause or the flag and and obviously time has passed and it's

00:09:38.380 somewhat anachronistic but it's still part of the nation's history and those people their ancestors

00:09:44.000 and their descendants are still part of the fabric of the nation and i get what you're saying like

00:09:48.720 it's not the confederacy but to sort of say oh well you know they were a bunch of rebels or something

00:09:53.760 it sort of erases well they were very they were they literally were rebelling against the country

00:09:59.720 well but you have to ask yourself what is the country they were rebelling against the

00:10:04.880 central government which they saw is dominated by the north and by industry and by manufacturing is

00:10:11.140 against the agriculture i'm not in favor of the cause of the confederacy not not in terms of slavery

00:10:17.700 by itself or in terms of some of these other arguments about states rights or whatever i'm

00:10:22.800 through and through support lincoln and uh and how he centralized the federal government um but

00:10:29.080 by the same token to say that they weren't part of america you know georgia was one of the initial

00:10:34.780 colonies slavery was baked into the constitution again not to say that it's okay but to say that

00:10:40.700 you know because they took arms against the federal government that that means that they're

00:10:44.840 anti-american um is it anti-american that donald trump didn't accept the result of the election is

00:10:50.360 it anti-american that um you know people have protested things over time that people say they

00:10:56.220 have a right to bear arms in the event that the government becomes tyrannical i don't think their

00:11:01.740 political stance about the government has anything to do with your american if you're american you're

00:11:06.960 those are people that fought and fought alongside washington and fought in the war for independence

00:11:12.800 some of them fought and indians way before that um you know and then they did take up arms against 0.60

00:11:18.380 the government i don't i don't think that makes them anti-american is that is that a racing history or is

00:11:22.820 that just not honoring because having a statue of people who wanted to secede from the country

00:11:27.380 is actively honoring people who were against the ideas that the country still represents right now

00:11:33.260 it's there's there's a difference between celebrating these people in a racing history

00:11:37.500 that's a statue i can understand removing do you think that what do you think about the confederate flag

00:11:42.800 i don't think anybody should wave the confederate flag and it's ironic to me that the people in the

00:11:47.900 south that are very like pro-america wave a flag that's literally anti-american

00:11:53.300 um i i supported it again i don't support the confederate flag yeah totally as a northerner

00:12:01.140 yeah the flag represents slavery i don't think it does necessarily represents it that's not what

00:12:08.980 it represents to the people in the south i don't think that people in the south or or elsewhere because

00:12:14.440 now you have people you have conservative like country type people fly it everywhere in the north

00:12:19.800 in the west it's not just a southern thing but that's the whole reason that they wanted to secede

00:12:23.680 from the country with slavery was the biggest issue that made them want to secede well the antagonism

00:12:29.920 about slavery was really about it was really about what kind of government we had and and and to what

00:12:36.600 extent the federal government had a right to overrule uh the laws with that are passed by the states

00:12:43.500 you know i mean slavery happened to be the substance of it but exactly isn't isn't that that's that's

00:12:50.200 enough for me to be like no if the flag the substance is based on slavery no that flag should not be waived

00:12:57.000 i just think that a lot of these arguments are sort of subversive i think that for the most part because

00:13:04.300 you know you said earlier it's you have to draw the line between the confederates and the founding fathers

00:13:09.620 well the founding fathers owned slaves so would you say that the founding fathers owned slaves that's

00:13:14.840 morally reprehensible america fought a war to end slavery so we need to topple the monuments of all

00:13:20.440 the slave owners no that's not what i'm saying because the basis of the american flag is it represents

00:13:24.780 freedom and the basis of america the confederate flag is based around slavery specifically that's the

00:13:32.380 leading issue for wanting to secede from the country the confederate flag can you not say represents

00:13:38.340 slavery i don't think it does no i and i don't think that people that fly it today do that in

00:13:44.880 support of slavery i don't and and i you know and i i'm with you because i'm not believe me i'm not

00:13:51.300 like pro confederate or anything like that i'm a northerner i don't i'm not culturally i don't relate

00:13:57.520 to the south at all i don't own a confederate battle flag i would never fly that it's not part of my

00:14:03.020 culture it's not part of my political sort of culture um but i think that and i'm speaking on

00:14:08.960 behalf of people that do who are not just in the south i think they fly that as a symbol of rebellion

00:14:14.000 against the elite against the central government against washington it's more about rebellion and

00:14:20.140 in the same way that that george washington owning slaves doesn't discredit his entire legacy and his

00:14:26.480 status is an american so too does necessarily the business of slavery totally poison the cause of

00:14:33.760 the confederacy or the battle flag or these particular generals you could say robert e lee was

00:14:38.800 a great man even if you fought for a cause that maybe necessarily you don't agree with and same is

00:14:43.980 true of the flag maybe the flag can represent other things and it means actually a lot even to black

00:14:48.920 people who fought on the side of the confederacy in the civil war should people be allowed to fly

00:14:53.980 the nazi flag did they be allowed to yes yeah that's protected by the first amendment okay but

00:15:02.340 in germany they it's illegal and it's pretty understandable why because it represents i think

00:15:09.040 it's pretty comparable to the confederate flag i guess i understand it but do you support people

00:15:14.540 like waving the the nazi flag are you what do you think about that uh no i don't i don't support

00:15:21.300 people waving the nazi flag but why why do you draw why do you support the confederate flag but not

00:15:26.420 the nazi flag because the nazi flag isn't from our country you know and the nazi flag represents 0.87

00:15:33.180 something that's particularly german if you look at national socialism national socialism is a is a

00:15:39.540 very specifically german philosophy it's altogether separate from the other kinds of fascism on the

00:15:45.060 continent at the time um and so for us to fly that here it'd be like it's like when these tankies

00:15:51.640 are flying a uh a communist flag like a hammer and sickle flag i don't think it'd be appropriate to fly

00:15:56.780 that here either um or even a russian flag i make a joke sometimes out of flying a russian flag

00:16:02.060 but i would never do a rally and have russian flags flying because it's foreign it's not from here 1.00

00:16:07.340 the confederacy is is part of uh american history and the people that fought for the confederacy

00:16:13.380 that was important to them it was important to their ancestors it was it's important to their

00:16:17.060 descendants and they're part of the country too and and and put another way in russia

00:16:22.460 they don't apologize for the legacy of stalin they don't apologize for the legacy of communism i like

00:16:28.740 that about russia they all recognize that stalin was brutal and that communism was bad and that it

00:16:34.120 killed lots of people and it was horrible but they're also not going to sort of attack themselves

00:16:38.960 in their own history and say oh we're so sorry that was the worst thing ever they choose to focus

00:16:46.040 on the good aspects of their history and the bad things they're they're acutely aware of but they're

00:16:50.720 not going to allow that into the consciousness and poison their own identity and i feel like germany

00:16:55.720 it would probably be better if they did something similar to that because in germany they're committing

00:17:00.980 suicide as a country because of guilt over the nazis america is committing suicide as a nation

00:17:07.080 because of guilt over slavery so many of these things how we're not i don't understand that

00:17:13.020 statement how are they committing suicide because of guilt over slavery because if you look at these

00:17:18.140 if you look at germany or if you look at the united states we are making bad decisions like like for

00:17:23.220 example crime right now is out of control crime is surging in every major city uh carjackings are

00:17:30.960 surging in every major city what does that have to do with the confederate flag here's what it has

00:17:35.260 to do with that because two years ago during blm you had all these people out there protesting and

00:17:41.040 saying george floyd had a knee on his neck because the cops are the new kkk and it's an extension of

00:17:45.780 slavery and so because we were trying to placate people and because we were trying to appease or

00:17:51.860 ameliorate our bad history we decided that we were going to not have law and order we decided that we

00:17:58.240 are going to not have the backs of the police and now it has this terrible outcome and we're all

00:18:02.360 supposed to live with that because we feel bad about bad things that our ancestors did or other

00:18:08.960 people's ancestors did 150 years ago and so as a country it's very poisonous to have this constant

00:18:15.820 refrain about our original sin our country was never perfect our country was not good it's it's

00:18:22.500 something that's very damaging to this american consciousness right that was a good way to overlook the

00:18:27.660 police but how does that affect germany how is germany committing suicide that's a that's a

00:18:33.420 situation where i can understand why they banned that flag and why they try to ban that ideology

00:18:38.280 after what happened because now they've gone too far and now any german that is too right-wing any

00:18:45.460 german that says like we should kick refugees out they they had during the syrian refugee crisis like 0.99

00:18:51.080 millions of people coming right yeah and you couldn't be against it because you were then perceived as

00:18:56.720 xenophobic which was like the nazis and so it's like you know countries have like an immune response

00:19:02.720 they i have there is a healthy amount of xenophobia because the country is your home and a country is

00:19:07.820 the people that are similar and like you and so when people that are not like you come in they could

00:19:12.440 start messing up your stuff and so there's a healthy immune response that says whoa whoa you know this

00:19:17.900 isn't a muslim country this isn't this isn't syria this isn't afghanistan this is germany but if 0.83

00:19:22.780 you've got this poison pill that says well we are fundamentally flawed well we we are terrible

00:19:28.260 people we have this guilt we have this national guilt it sort of it compromises that immune system

00:19:34.920 and basically then international elements migrants corporations banks can come in and basically just

00:19:42.460 have their way with you because anybody that says we're a nation we want to assert our identity we

00:19:47.560 want to assert our interests they say whoa well remember slavery remember the hitler remember stalin

00:19:52.780 remember that that's always how they browbeat a nation into submission then how do you combat

00:19:57.400 things like racism very clear racism because whether i don't know what you're going to say

00:20:03.440 about that but slavery how do you combat those ideas without fully going off of without fully

00:20:10.720 embracing the guilt how do you balance that because after the civil war you need to completely change

00:20:16.420 the philosophy of the country you need to change the way that black people are viewed as property

00:20:21.140 how do you balance that and then not have this guilt that fucks up immigration because you're 0.99

00:20:26.580 completely on the side of oh this guilt fucks up the police this but bro you can't have black people 1.00

00:20:32.840 being treated like property you need a balance what's that balance look like to you which i think is 0.72

00:20:37.280 important because if you're going to go into the future of politics you're only looking at the

00:20:42.680 country as a whole and immigration and all these topics but you're excluding a big portion of the

00:20:48.420 population which is who black people yeah well i i would say that it depends on the context i i would

00:20:57.380 probably be more in agreement with you and and catholics historically were 150 years ago when there

00:21:04.540 was when there were attitudes that were very negative towards black people in the country but i would say

00:21:09.140 now that's fundamentally different i don't think there is um a very substantial racist element in america

00:21:16.480 anymore and if there is i think it's very marginal and i think it's blown out of proportion and i say

00:21:23.580 on my show i make it a point to distinguish what i'm in favor of and what i'm against and here's here's

00:21:28.200 what i'm in favor of i think that everybody should be treated and i said this at my speech at afpac too

00:21:32.920 which is our big conference i said every person regardless of their race should be treated with

00:21:38.460 respect dignity equal rights um and and what i'm against is cruelty prejudice discrimination i would

00:21:46.500 never say oh you're black i'm going to treat you differently you're black i'm going to discriminate 1.00

00:21:50.280 against you i'm going to be mean to you i think differently about you but we've got to get specific 0.99

00:21:55.360 because what they say is you're racist and what does racist mean if you ask 50 people you're going to

00:22:00.980 get 50 different answers some people say that if you have too many white people in a given room

00:22:05.360 that's racist which means negative towards minorities some people say that it's impossible

00:22:10.340 to be racist against white people because racism of oppression yeah all that right yeah so that's why

00:22:17.000 you got to be specific and say well what do you mean by that if you if you mean that you're talking

00:22:21.300 about someone being treated unfairly because of who they are i'm totally against that i'm totally

00:22:27.160 unequivocally against that it's it's contradictory to catholicism specifically and christianity broadly

00:22:33.120 um but as far as we need to start tearing down monuments and we're going to change the names of

00:22:39.620 parks in some cases by mobs in some cases the government doesn't even do it like during 2020

00:22:44.800 it was just people getting in the city and just knocking it down and throwing in the river we can't

00:22:51.060 have a country that's run by mob rule like that um and and certainly i don't think that what who should

00:22:57.140 have a statue should be dictated by the passions of a mob that are clearly not reciprocating those

00:23:03.480 feelings so what do you think black people should think about living in a city that has a robert e lee

00:23:08.660 statue do you think from that perspective yeah and again i i understand that in terms of somebody

00:23:18.020 like robert e lee or nathaniel bedford forrest i think that's a better example because nathaniel

00:23:22.260 bedford forrest who is in the ku klux klan he's another one that they try to defend the statue

00:23:27.700 and that one i don't know it's like there's a gray area what do you think how does it make people feel

00:23:32.040 that statue should be taken down in my opinion that should not be up we should not celebrate the

00:23:36.740 statue is celebrating these people i would say that it's it's tricky because and i say that as somebody

00:23:45.300 who listen i'm not it's not like i'm somebody that would be totally welcome in that era i'm i'm italian

00:23:51.960 and irish and catholic so how's it tricky the ku klux klan hated all those people it's tricky because

00:23:57.560 once you start that process again if you say well you're in the ku klux klan so obviously your

00:24:04.380 statue's got to go well you fought for the confederacy so obviously your statue's got to go

00:24:08.900 well george washington owned slaves are we really going to say well you know you fought for the side

00:24:13.960 that owned slaves and you own people and you're going to say that owning people is so much better than 0.95

00:24:19.500 not owning people but fighting to own people you know and so it's the problem is it completely

00:24:25.560 pulls the rug out from under our whole history because unfortunately the world is built on on

00:24:31.200 slavery genocide war right there's a difference between there's a difference between erasing

00:24:38.180 history and then honoring the wrong people see where i think it can differentiate is in the school

00:24:45.180 that i went to they had a thomas jefferson statue in front of the school and then all the the liberals

00:24:50.340 had a big protest to take it down because he owned slaves but his principles were freedom of speech

00:24:55.920 and were freedom so yes he owned slaves but you got to look at what his core philosophies were

00:25:00.120 the core philosophies of a ku klux klan member are based in hatred so if we don't support that and we

00:25:06.620 don't celebrate that then it should be taken down was thomas jefferson's core philosophies

00:25:11.100 pro-slavery no it was freedom of speech so we can keep that up well but see thomas jefferson

00:25:18.580 although you're right i you know you should read some of the things he had to say about slavery

00:25:23.060 none of the founding fathers believed that blacks and whites should live together in america on an

00:25:28.280 no i know that i know that and even some my favorite people like malcolm x i really look up to

00:25:32.920 he thought the same things that they shouldn't live together but the core for whether their core

00:25:38.140 principles weren't based in that it was a foul it was though they they did not believe washington

00:25:44.880 and jefferson and even lincoln abraham lincoln said if i could win the civil war without freeing a

00:25:49.580 single slave i would do that you know so is abraham lincoln's core principle about uh having political

00:25:55.940 equality for for black people or was it about holding the union together under a strong central

00:26:00.940 government i'm just trying to challenge maybe your preconceived notions about these people

00:26:04.980 the point is that the past is filled with sins the past is filled with um with these kinds of

00:26:11.020 attitudes and um and you could go back to the bible and you'll find people slaughtering other nations

00:26:16.620 and slaughtering other villages and that's true where do you draw the line that's true but shouldn't

00:26:21.280 you also consider how people i uh idolize these people today if you keep a kkk statue up what does

00:26:29.120 that do today that gives people an idol to look at who support the kkk if you look at the idea of

00:26:35.120 how abraham lincoln is represented today now i'm seeing how that's erasing history because

00:26:39.680 yeah maybe people misrepresent abraham lincoln if he was if he didn't even care about slavery in the

00:26:44.840 first place but you gotta you gotta realize that most people are not going to look at history

00:26:52.100 correctly they have a different representation representation today and maybe that's more important to look at

00:26:57.860 how the normies are going to look at these people rather than what they represented at that time

00:27:01.460 if people think that abraham lincoln was pro freedom of the slaves then maybe we should let that go

00:27:09.240 maybe the preservation of history is not as important as you're making it out to be because just

00:27:14.680 if you're being realistic most people are not going to look back at it correctly history's always

00:27:19.480 changed and history's always written by the victor but and and here's the thing though is i'm not a

00:27:25.480 southerner and i'm i don't have any particular affinity for robert e lee or for not a part i have

00:27:31.960 a general affinity because i think that he's a great general so he's he has admirable traits in that way

00:27:36.360 but for the people of the south it means a lot to them and and if you look at the history of the

00:27:42.300 reconstruction a lot of these towns in the south they cobbled together what meager resources they had

00:27:48.400 their entire nation was destroyed their their land was destroyed like the war happened in the south

00:27:55.100 not in the north so all their wealth was destroyed and then they were occupied militarily by the north

00:28:00.120 for decades and by carpetbaggers and so a lot of these cities they would cobble together their meager

00:28:04.620 resources and build statues commemorating their brothers commemorating their fallen their their heroes

00:28:11.280 their civic leaders their ancestors and so that that is part of their identity it's part of the fabric

00:28:17.200 of who they are and what it means to be a southerner or an american to them and and the point is like

00:28:22.840 you you can't find anybody before the year 2000 that that isn't extremely problematic you know you

00:28:30.980 could you could point a finger at any monument martin luther king jr or lincoln or washington or

00:28:37.240 jefferson and the same standards that you're applying to nathan bedford forest or robert e lee

00:28:42.000 they're somewhat arbitrary because you could point the finger and say equally terrible things about

00:28:46.480 columbus about washington about whoever and so the question is are we going to look at columbus

00:28:51.740 and washington and others and say are they a product of their time are they you know part of history and

00:28:57.800 we recognize that they're you know as everybody is there men in time and we're going to recognize their

00:29:03.520 role in our history and their role in the fabric of our country or are we going to have this totalizing

00:29:08.360 view of if you don't have the morality of the united nations after 1991 then you're reprehensible

00:29:15.560 you're rebel you're evil because we'd be taking down a lot of statues and renaming a lot of stuff and

00:29:20.120 you'd have to go way way back muslims couldn't be proud of anybody christians couldn't be proud of 1.00

00:29:25.220 anybody black people couldn't be proud of anybody white people couldn't be proud of anybody because the 0.90

00:29:29.660 the world history is a story of murder and war and slavery and and again if you point to me and say 0.93

00:29:37.560 here's a group that's killing people or doing horrible things today i'd be the first to go out

00:29:42.240 and say that's that's no good and that needs to go but taking down these statues they won't tell you

00:29:47.660 that they want them all to go they start with nathan bedford forest and what they don't tell you is

00:29:51.680 they hate all of western civilization they want columbus to go they want washington to go they want it all

00:29:56.980 to go and who do they want to build statues of pedophiles marxists freaks they're their own 0.98

00:30:02.560 problematic people so you know that that's where it's not just about having a museum my point is

00:30:08.840 that if you want to be successful in politics part of the truth needs to be compromised that's an

00:30:16.020 uncomfortable reality and you see how being as truthful as you are you see like the restriction

00:30:22.940 that you have so you're the most canceled person like you're on a no fly list everything like that

00:30:28.040 if you don't compromise some of these beliefs you just will never be successful in politics

00:30:35.200 you have to some of these statues just need to be removed so that you can compromise for the normies

00:30:42.020 and so that you can make people feel better i know that you want to go completely down the truth

00:30:47.820 and you you don't want to compromise history and some of these people everybody represents these

00:30:52.360 bad things but in order to be successful and in order to win the popular vote it's just never going

00:30:58.720 to work well uh you know people have told me that a lot about the practicality of it and for right now

00:31:05.880 i see myself as sort of the second or the third wave here of people that have been trying to set the

00:31:11.680 country on the right course for a long time and right now people just need to know the truth people just

00:31:16.700 need to wake up and i i am less interested they won't they won't the vast majority of people won't

00:31:24.260 so you need to wrap up the red pill in seven layers of ham to feed it to the vast there's so many people

00:31:31.060 in this country there's so many different races it's just never going to work like that think about

00:31:35.780 how many people you're alienating by fully sticking to this just some things you can't do it's just not

00:31:43.160 going to work and i understand that you don't want to compromise i i relate to you on that level

00:31:48.160 but you just have to and it's the mistakes that we've both made and that's why we're ending up on

00:31:53.740 these alternative platforms can't can't you admit that if we had compromised a little bit more and if

00:32:00.400 we had watered it down for the vast majority of people then what's more important would end up in the

00:32:07.140 minds of people we can stick to what's really important and how you i could really reach the level of

00:32:12.380 people that i wanted to reach and you could probably reach the level of in politics that you wanted to

00:32:16.060 reach if you had compromised some of these uncomfortable truths no and and i think that's

00:32:22.000 a very dangerous conceit because here's the thing if you're what what is going on right now is not

00:32:28.420 passive it's active america is being ruined we have an elite that hates us and we have an elite that

00:32:33.520 is wrecking the country because they are they're putting their own best interest at the expense of the 0.96

00:32:38.720 interest of the country they're doing what's good for them not what's good for america they're corrupt

00:32:42.840 and so it to me it's a very dangerous idea that um if we just played nice and if we just like you said

00:32:50.560 compromised and soften the truth not play nice completely but just a little bit a little i i don't

00:32:57.760 regret anything that i did to get canceled and end up on rumble but it would have been better for the truth

00:33:04.500 if i had maybe streamed some of it on youtube and then some of the other stuff on a different platform

00:33:11.920 because ultimately having access to everybody is more valuable than being fully truthful that's that's

00:33:19.800 part of the uncomfortable truth is that not everybody is ready to hear it not everybody is

00:33:25.520 going to and you need to compromise a little bit to be successful and to to reach everybody that you

00:33:31.780 could reach because now think about how many people every time somebody makes a documentary about

00:33:36.100 me they bring up how you're a nazi they bring up how you're a white supremacist and then immediately a

00:33:40.680 lot of people that would relate to you or could hear your message are alienated because they hear

00:33:45.600 these words and they're turned off and a lot of people are just not ready to hear the truth and the

00:33:49.900 amount of power that all the matrix platforms and the amount of brainwashing that people are hearing

00:33:54.940 it's just you can't fight against that without compromising a little bit it's unfortunately

00:34:01.440 it's unavoidable i agree with you that you got to be strategic i agree with you that you got to be

00:34:06.100 tactful and you got to have a concern about logistics and things like that but and this is what i was

00:34:11.200 trying to get at you're going against the system the system is going to punish you it's unavoidable

00:34:17.400 that if you're if you're telling the truth in any capacity they're going to try and strip that from

00:34:21.820 you your access to the platforms your access to the the money your access to people is contingent

00:34:28.580 on you not being a threat to the system look at yay look at trump look at andrew tate look at alex

00:34:34.380 jones look at you look at me look at bannon there there's the only way and increasingly it's like this

00:34:40.500 the only way that you're going to be able to have access to these things is if you explicitly submit

00:34:46.220 and bend the knee and say i surrender to zog i surrender to moloch you know i'm not i'm not a 0.76

00:34:52.580 groiper i am not an anti-semi i am not those things and at a certain point there's this time for choosing

00:34:57.720 where you got to say the pain box the the social backlash the whatever that comes with confronting

00:35:04.520 the system it's baked into the cake it's our job to well maybe not so much you because and here's

00:35:09.760 the thing i always said this about you and tate this this isn't really your job in the sense that

00:35:15.460 i don't think you see yourself as a political actor i think you see yourself as an entertainer

00:35:19.480 and to some extent a truth teller i mean i'm a political guy yeah and insofar as i'm a political

00:35:24.580 guy it's a political problem that we've got to push through censorship and media control and all

00:35:30.920 these kinds of things and um and if it were so simple as just being tactful and just kind of playing

00:35:36.360 it close to the chest well people have been doing that for a long time but we've got to be bold and

00:35:41.800 tell the truth and and there are going to be there is going to be misunderstanding and there are going

00:35:45.860 to be consequences but it's our job to push past that you know because you get the most flack when

00:35:50.960 you're flying over the target we can't stop flying over the target because we get flack and i understand

00:35:55.480 from your perspective and i told you this when when you got banned on youtube what did i say i said

00:36:00.360 don't have me on on your show i said you keep your platforms i said you go on twitch and you just

00:36:05.800 play it as safe as possible because you right i mean i didn't i got banned on twitch for doing

00:36:09.960 nothing i got banned on twitch for eating a salad part of the part of the compromise and i realized 0.97

00:36:14.260 this today because my first stream on rumble i was saying faggot i said faggot maybe like 50 times 1.00

00:36:18.760 faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot and then i started thinking about the long term so what's more 1.00

00:36:23.860 beneficial is having more people on rumble having more of the normies trickle into here and wrapping in a 1.00

00:36:29.200 little bit of ham and my chat started saying faggot faggot i'm telling him like it's better to not say 0.99

00:36:33.560 this word so that more people because like think about how many people are just going to be alienated 0.99

00:36:37.520 by that think about how many people are just not so that's a compromise that's the same compromise i

00:36:43.320 could see in some of the statues like maybe yes it's not it's just a word it doesn't mean that much

00:36:49.980 it's it doesn't mean i'm homophobic it's just a fun word to say but you've got to think long term

00:36:57.060 and if i want more people to come to rumble if i want to reach more people it's like okay do i have to

00:37:02.240 say this word that's the same thing is taking down a kkk statue well the the problem is that the

00:37:09.520 people that want to take down the kkk statue i guarantee that the majority of people that want

00:37:14.960 to see that statue go they also want to see robert e lee go and i'm sure they want to see columbus go

00:37:20.320 and and probably half of them want to see jefferson go so it's like there's this conceit in politics

00:37:25.900 where you make compromises to try to win over people that fundamentally disagree with you and never

00:37:32.060 will agree with you and in doing so you sacrifice all the people that do agree with you because

00:37:36.460 i guarantee you that all the people that mostly agree with me support the monuments being up and

00:37:42.020 all the people that fundamentally disagree with me want the statue to come down so should i go out there

00:37:46.680 in an effort to appeal to people that think america was founded by slave owners and there's a poison

00:37:51.320 pill from the very beginning should i make a compromise to win them over which i never will and in the

00:37:57.220 process lose the support of the people that do agree with me people that say oh i can't believe

00:38:02.460 you'd sell out american history blah blah so and and i'm not trying to shut you down because i agree

00:38:07.640 with you like i'm not saying that you shouldn't be thoughtful about your approach i'm not saying that

00:38:13.020 you shouldn't um you know understand who your audience is and talk to a particular audience and 0.99

00:38:19.160 yeah sometimes that you can make a joke and sometimes it's not the time to say faggot or zog or 0.98

00:38:24.320 whatever you know the time and place for everything but i would only call i'm just giving you a little 0.98

00:38:29.380 devil's advocate here i would only push back and say that's a very conventional political wisdom

00:38:34.160 and what i found since i started this show is that uh it's really it works in a counterintuitive way

00:38:40.460 that's how republicans have always thought is like let's bend over backwards to win over these black 1.00

00:38:44.880 voters and they never win them over and in the process they just lose their white voters which are

00:38:50.060 dutifully ready to show up and cast their vote and it's like and that's just how it happens to break

00:38:55.320 down for republicans in particular and it's like that's not to say that we shouldn't have a party

00:38:59.200 that black people can be a part of but it is to say why are we creating a platinum plan and the first

00:39:04.360 step act if blacks aren't really even going to vote for us and in the process we lose all the white 0.94

00:39:08.860 people that voted for law and order you know so it's it's that's why i say it's tricky that's why i say

00:39:13.020 it's not as simple why can't you apply that same logic if you were telling me before i got uh my

00:39:17.120 twitch band you're saying don't have me on play it safe why can't you apply that exact same logic to your

00:39:22.180 political approach because i think we're trying to do we're trying to do two different things

00:39:27.480 you know um because me i my whole life was always sort of set up to be this way in a certain sense

00:39:35.520 i'm anti-social i'm a uh eccentric person i'm an antagonist that's my personality and what i set out

00:39:43.200 to do from the beginning was to be provocative um and i knew this was coming i knew this was coming

00:39:48.220 from day one and i knew that i could survive it and handle it and live with it and i think that

00:39:52.660 you're somebody who um you know you're more mainstream you're more of a cultural figure and

00:39:58.380 to somebody like you does it make sense is it the hill to die on that you want to defend little old me

00:40:03.260 you know or a particular view it's a question of what you're trying to accomplish yeah probably not

00:40:07.940 yeah yeah it was good to talk to you though i i've been streaming for five hours i'm tired of

00:40:14.000 sell uh shout out to cozy thanks for this conversation i think this is good we should

00:40:17.860 get more discussions like that just don't be on uh black people time next time yeah i'm sorry about 0.99

00:40:23.060 that that's racist you gotta watch your approach shut the fuck all right i'll tease you all right 0.99

00:40:29.220 good talking to you man see ya 1.00

00:40:30.460 that's it

00:40:37.180 this is your job

SNEAKO - November 06, 2022

SNEAKO VS NICK FUENTES (UNCENSORED)

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