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00:29:08.200You know, you know one of the things that they're saying right now, uh, sneak over, or they're saying this on Twitter, one of the things that they're saying, not an ex, is that...
00:29:14.920This is about illegal immigration happening in the UK.
00:29:51.800Because he was, he was incorrect about the, he has good intentions and this stuff, and he's speaking up for masculinity, but he was incorrect about the Cardiff stabbing.
00:29:58.820And he was, the man was born in Cardiff, and he was saying that he was coming over on a boat.
00:30:02.320I mean, speaking to Andrew, you know, privately and stuff, and my take on him is, honestly, I think,
00:30:06.980people from the Muslim community have been a bit too harsh on him, in my opinion.
00:30:13.400Now, the thing is, um, yes, he does deserve reprimand.
00:30:16.740Yes, he does deserve accountability, because, like, the chances he's taken vis-a-vis Tommy Robinson have been really off the mark, have been off key, actually.
00:30:27.080Um, but I think people need to remember, okay, he's been Muslim for two years, but he's been, I know this because I speak to him firsthand, he's not been exposed to a community.
00:30:36.980In the sense that, you know, like, for example, if you have a convert or revert, that converts in, you know, London or something, or some...
00:30:45.760This guy's in a house, not allowed to leave one of the least Muslim countries in the world, Romania.
00:30:50.360And he doesn't have a Muslim community there to kind of help him with it.
00:30:53.140So he's relying on tweets and stuff like to understand Islam.
00:30:56.980And so this kind of guy, you know, he does have what they would call in, in fiqh, you know, or wasul fiqh, or whatever you want, al-adhrab al-jahl.
00:33:28.600However, what you can't do is acquiesce or appease or allow or placate an enemy of Islam.
00:33:35.360What is labelled, or what fuqaha, the scholars of Islam, refer to as a harbi.
00:33:40.940A harbi, a harbi, a harbi, somebody who is basically an open enemy of Islam.
00:33:47.960Someone in another time, another place, would have been dealt with in a different way.
00:33:52.620You know, this person is not allowed to be dealt with in a good way.
00:33:56.500And the evidence of that in the Qur'an is, Allah says in the Qur'an, chapter 58, verse 24,
00:34:01.260That you will not find the people, as Allah mentions in the Qur'an, you will not find the people who truly believe in Allah on the last day loving.
00:34:23.260You are doona, man had the Allah, who, the people who oppose Allah and the messenger, even if they were your fathers or your sons or your, your brothers.
00:34:36.700Oh, ashiratum, or the extended family.
00:34:51.560Even if it is a sign of nifaq, actually, it's a sign of hypocrisy, to be honest with you.
00:34:57.480So loyalty doesn't, I know that when we grow up, yeah, it's true that people that we grow up with in our cities and stuff,
00:35:04.300I understand where he's coming from, and I actually respect it in a way, because it shows he's got a good trait, you know, he's loyal to his boys.
00:35:11.460But what Andrew needs to understand, is what I need to understand, everyone else needs to understand, is that we're not allowed to actually befriend people like that.
00:35:17.560We're not allowed, it's the Qur'an is saying that, not me.
00:35:20.080You know what, I think one of the things as well, with a lot of reverts as well, just even generally, on a general level,
00:35:25.460what people need to understand is when you become a Muslim, when you become a Muslim, your guideline for things needs to become Islam.
00:38:06.260Because his whole mantra, Andrew Tate's whole mantra, was holding feminists accountable.
00:38:12.640That's one of his main mantras that he had.
00:38:14.640So it can't be that you live that life and hold feminists accountable and hold the woke accountable and hold these people accountable, but you cannot hold yourself accountable.
00:38:23.840But at the same time, the community cannot bring out the sledgehammer for a person who's been locked up in a house with zero communities, zero Muslim around him.
00:38:33.780He's living with his brother who's not Muslim even.
00:39:49.000Which is actually, if someone said it knowingly, and knowing what it consists of, and knowing about it, and intentionally, it will take them outside the world of Islam.
00:42:04.600Number two, they should, to be fair, like, this whole thing about, he jumped on the, you know, the anti-immigration thing, and he said that the person was an immigrant.
00:42:17.040He, to be fair, he kind of retracted it.
01:17:15.700Bro, at his time, Jerusalem was made the capital of Israel.
01:17:19.420He has already, he's the, at his time, the ICC, the International Court of Criminal Court, repealed a decision for the then-Palestinian, what do you call it, authority,
01:17:31.980to take a, to take a decision to the ICC?
01:17:35.260He has, he's acted in Israel's interest in many different things.
01:17:38.680So there's no way he'll be, he'll be getting an endorsement from someone like him.
01:17:43.460You know, he is complicit for the blood, just like Joe Biden and all this kind of, he's, he's, in many ways, you can make an argument he's worse.
01:17:51.440But isn't it interesting, Harvey, like, when he, when he speaks, he, he, he correlates anything bad said about Israel is you saying anything bad about Jews.
01:23:41.820If you've got people in China, akhi, that are revising for the exam, where they're doing it in school, at the age of 14, versus someone in Malawi, who doesn't even know what an IQ test is, don't tell me that one is more intelligent than the other because of genetics.
01:23:56.800Tell me because they've been taught and trained, and the other one's not been taught and trained.
01:24:01.700No, but you know, it doesn't also make sense from a historical perspective.
01:24:04.940You would have to explain, then, other races being in power for significant centuries, right?
01:24:12.040Like the Indians, for example, the Movens, they had extremely large percentage, 25% plus of the world's GDP, before, you know, the East India Company.
01:26:17.300No, no, no, I'm going all the way back. I'm going all the way bro. We don't need to go that far. Egyptian civilization
01:26:22.580How long you got there is there is a upper intermediate period you have the middle period you have the new kingdom
01:26:29.360Okay, this is thousands of years. Are you gonna delete this thing?
01:26:32.280Are you gonna delete this thing because you think that the white man is so good and then we look at the last one come on
01:26:36.920Mali, why do we have to limit history to the last hundred years?
01:26:40.780No, no, what I'm saying to you is what was going on in Europe when the Egyptian civilization was happening
01:26:45.840What was going on in Europe when Mesopotamia was happening when the industry of the civilization was happening if the white man was
01:26:52.000Genetically superior through intelligence. Why is it that he was not able to establish civilizations at the same time as
01:26:58.300Other people from different genetic pools for thousands of years at the same level. That's a question
01:27:03.540Don't tell me now because okay China in the West is dominant that we have to we have to now associate all of their dominance to do with the genetics
01:27:10.660It's a weak argument bro because for you to actually prove this point
01:27:15.740Here's what I'm gonna say you have to do for you to prove this point. This is what you're gonna have to do
01:27:19.800What you're gonna have to have mixed-race parents. Yeah, hey get fix me
01:27:24.960I'm just I'm just thinking I'm just thinking I'm lucky you got your mixed-race parents like for example half-black half-white for
01:27:30.520Same thing. Let's take a look. Let's return fully up 50% 50 we do do a test on okay
01:27:35.760He's got one black kid, and he's got one white kid. Yeah
01:27:39.540One black and one Mike. Okay. Okay. Okay. Maybe they adopted. I don't know what I'm
01:27:44.880The reason why he's got to be mixed races because he can't be fully black or fully white
01:27:48.100It's got to be even test. Yeah. Yeah, do you get it? He's mixed race. Okay, so he's got one black one white. Yeah
01:27:53.260All right, we'll give them exactly the same life opportunities, and we see who does better
01:27:58.600Now according to you actually the black kid should do worse than the white kid right now less in order to extract this we have an average
01:28:06.340Yeah, so we have to bring now a thousand of these cases at 10,000 of these cases and make a generalization
01:28:11.980Do you expect me to believe that if you get a mixed-race parent and with a black kid and a white kid?
01:28:19.540All of the and you have 10,000 of such cases and they have the same controlled environment and they have the same life opportunities
01:28:27.200Are you expecting me to believe that the black is gonna consistently perform worse than white if you say yes, I'm open
01:28:32.040Okay, maybe that's your hypothesis. You're allowed to make a hypothesis
01:28:36.400But you cannot come to the conclusion before you've done the experiment. This is science 101
01:28:41.040101 you cannot come to it. You can have the hypothesis you I
01:28:44.880Hypothesize me Nick Fuentes or this person or that person whoever race read list
01:28:48.900You can say I hypothesize that black will do worse than the white because of whatever reason you want to give
01:28:54.360But you cannot come to the but it's not innate to race
01:28:56.540How can you say you believe there's some traits that races have that are innate?
01:29:00.920Of course, right because black people are better in the Olympics, of course
01:29:04.700Maybe they destroy white so if we believe that they're biologically different then why can't they be they can be they can even be intelligent?
01:29:10.700Intelligently different exactly they can so you're agreeing. No, they can't know change. No, no
01:29:14.940I'm saying it can be the case, but you don't think the majority or like there's any correlation
01:29:19.220I'm saying it can be that if someone said to me look is it possible that you find when you do this great experiment
01:29:25.360That Chinese people do very well in mass and that they that when we do this great experiment of mixed-race parents and all that
01:29:31.020That Chinese people end up being the most intelligent mass because of genetic factors. I say that's a possibility
01:29:37.940I can't rule it out as let's say a sociologist or scientist or a psychologist or whatever
01:29:42.060Maybe I can't rule it out. It can only be a hypothesis
01:29:44.620But in order for it to be affirmed the experiment has to be done
01:29:47.280But it's such a wide-ranging difficult experiment to do that it will never be done
01:29:51.120The closest thing that has been done by the way, yeah, is I don't know even if they've done documentaries of this
01:29:59.180Yes, yeah experiments, but that you cannot make the same extract attractions from that as you would need to in order to come to a conclusion that race is actually the
01:30:08.340Determinant factor is when intelligent you want to do but with
01:30:11.400Maybe that's a terminate factor, but it is a factor. It could be but we don't know that for a fact true
01:30:16.100It we it could be I'm no one can rule anything out
01:30:19.080It could be the case that we do this great experiment. It turns out black people are so good at I don't know music
01:30:24.120They are no no, it just could be it could be okay. It turned out that
01:31:18.420I don't care for people to put white people first or Christian first because that's not my business
01:31:21.820I don't want them to I don't care if they do if they don't I don't care
01:31:25.340Do you know? I mean, it's just not my business. It's like, you know, it's like somebody telling me that oh, you know
01:31:30.380I'm putting my wife first. I don't can't put my wife first. I'm putting my family if I don't care about your family in a way
01:31:34.980You know, you know what? I mean, this is like your your business
01:31:39.920I'm asking like who do you think so if Trump can't lead you think it's as I oh, I don't care about American politics in a way
01:31:46.900You know what? I mean, it's not my business, you know, they can they can have whatever leaders they want
01:31:51.320They can what they're doing from a foreign part that the extent to which I care about American politics is to essentially affects the rest of the world
01:31:57.980If they attack Muslim countries if they attack this one
01:32:00.640I can't care too much about what they're doing in this manner
01:32:03.900Well, if they're not believing Allah then they go whatever they do if they're liberal conservative if they're woke if they're not woke
01:32:09.680If they don't believe in Allah and they don't believe in the last day they don't believe in Islam
01:32:12.800It's all the same to me, you know, that's all the same with you you can do whatever you want
01:32:16.980Yeah, I mean yeah, my montiyraz says yeah major shit do what you want
01:32:22.000That's what the Quran says, house do what you want, brother
01:32:24.720If you wanna be conservative, if you wanna be gay if you wanna do that do what you want, and wrap
01:32:29.380I don't care. I don't care if you wanna gay president if you want a woman president if you want an old man president again
01:32:34.340You know if you want to old man president you want a drop-dead president if you want a coma president
01:32:38.380you were dementia president if you want a man being shot dead president I don't
01:32:42.040give a damn you know do in fact I wish you have the worst president because
01:32:46.420America is a bully breath I don't even wish the best for them in a sense I
01:32:50.260don't even wish the best for them because of a foreign policy perspective
01:32:52.900they're hurting everybody well I don't even know I mean it's through Israel I
01:32:56.740don't think you can blame a lot of the more America itself is high and people
01:33:00.160Iraq look Iraq is worse than Gaza what happened a million people died okay they
01:33:04.060went into your dollars because of Israel that what you can't blame the Americans
01:33:07.480that well I mean you know they can't come ladies or for everything the Americans
01:33:10.780have been doing things like you look you got Korean war your Vietnam war you have
01:33:14.080Iraq war you have the Afghanistan war but I don't care like America is not my
01:33:19.120priority my priorities to be some people Islam and Muslims you know America is not
01:33:23.380my priority you know at all at all and what about does the same go for the UK
01:33:30.700yeah it's not my priority the UK is not my priority the Muslim community in the
01:33:35.680UK are my priority the extent to which the UK is my priority is the extent to
01:33:39.520which they look after the Muslim people look after us yeah I want the best for
01:33:44.100everyone in a sense but in another sense I don't really care too much Yanni if
01:33:48.400they have this president or that president or Keir Starmer what's the other
01:33:51.400ones called I will choose the one who I will choose the prime minister who helps me
01:33:56.180the most in my community the most my people the most my concern is my
01:34:00.320people it's not really you know I'm gonna say all these other concerns I'm
01:34:03.740not gonna like you go I can't I can't lie my concern is the Muslim people that
01:34:08.900goes back to the question asked earlier how do you think that Islam can
01:34:12.740coexist with Western values how do you see this that's going for it and we're
01:34:16.400seeing what happened in the UK right now there's obviously some growing
01:34:19.560resentment towards that and the growing Islamic population yeah how could the two
01:34:23.360calls us what you're gonna do forget about her forget this question this
01:34:28.980question is always defensive I have to be defending myself what are you gonna do
01:34:33.820I'm setting the right wing now what you're gonna do we're British citizens
01:34:37.520we're born in there we're born in the West we're born in the West we're gonna
01:34:40.640strip our passport either the privacy of our citizenship is that we want to kick us
01:34:44.000out go and then do it I want to see that happen try that try that we'll see what
01:34:47.660happens come on that's right what you're gonna do exactly what what do you want to
01:34:51.260happen do you understand what you want to do I don't care try your best do your
01:34:55.160thing I don't care do it because at the end of the day we're British citizens we
01:34:59.840live in Britain okay we're a minority in Britain yeah we have our own interests in
01:35:03.820mind yeah whatever do your thing if you want to try to harm us harm us try and
01:35:08.420harm us I grow problem whatever man you know at the end of the day we're gonna do
01:35:11.540you're gonna try to kick us out with 5 million people has that ever happened in
01:35:15.360modern history where you kick 5 billion people is that even a realistic target
01:35:18.260you're not gonna be able to achieve that they would have to change their
01:35:21.440constitution Britain would have to change its constitution fundamentally right
01:35:24.620Britain does have a constitution it's an uncodified Constitution made out of
01:35:28.700statute law common law and a constitutional tradition you could you don't have to
01:35:35.240change your Constitution you're gonna have to do an overhaul of the whole
01:35:37.940Constitution if you want to change you're gonna take five million people out
01:35:40.460and kick them out of the country you know do it if you can do that do it no
01:35:43.940problem there will be forced to go to another country if you achieve your
01:35:46.460objective then I'll be in Egypt or he'll be in Pakistan or whatever it is if you
01:35:50.540can do that achievement do it if not then shut the shut up shut up and be
01:35:54.000quiet because you're gonna have to live with us and that's the reality you're
01:35:56.840gonna just have to live with us yeah you're gonna have to live with us you're
01:35:59.840you're the one you're gonna have to coexist with us it's not we have to coexist
01:36:03.320with you you have to coexist with us it's you that have the coaches we have
01:36:07.300to coexist with you no no you have to coexist with us that's it it's done now oh you
01:36:13.100got two options kick us out try and forcibly kick us out or you have to
01:36:16.640coexist that's it simple as that yeah honestly I do agree I think I think look
01:36:28.220because they say it's about illegal illegal immigration right right that's
01:36:32.900what they're saying okay let's stop illegal immigration no problem let's
01:36:36.720stop people coming in on box no problem listen to that okay do you think these
01:36:40.760EDL these far-right people are gonna be happy with that no they won't ask the
01:36:46.820fact that they're attacking random black people on the road random sisters wearing
01:36:51.620hijab random Muslims random Pakistani uncle walking down the street with his
01:36:57.440groceries the fact you know recently you know in Birmingham a couple years ago one
01:37:01.460of the one of these man you know one of these uncles was killed bro the fact that
01:37:06.380they're doing Islamophobic attacks like this it shows you bro that bro your
01:37:12.440problem isn't actually illegal immigration your problem is actually that you're a
01:37:18.320failure in life hmm you have yellow teeth you don't you know you need to go to the
01:37:23.660dentist your problem is you're unqualified your problem is that you have a very
01:37:28.580very low IQ your problem is that you know you see your doctor he's driving a nice
01:37:33.860car and he's an Asian man and he's flown in from Afghanistan or Pakistan and he's
01:37:38.680done done better than you and you just don't like that on honestly for many
01:37:43.940people that's that that seems to be the issue if your issues with immigration
01:37:47.540that seems to have your issue do your thing you know so stop illegal immigration
01:37:50.780I don't care okay well I don't do you think I'm fine for me why the racist rhetoric
01:37:57.360like why the racist rhetoric for you know I'm saying like why do you have to be
01:38:01.100racist for why do you have to speak in such a man and then they got these
01:38:04.520token guys that are just standing with them like this random brown guy who's
01:38:07.940confused standing with Tommy Robinson he doesn't know what he's doing that random
01:38:11.000black guy in the corner like yeah yeah yeah like it's nonsense bro anyone who
01:38:17.240looks at this who's got half a brain just sees these guys are idiots they're
01:38:21.740racist they their mission is it's not about illegal immigration because look the
01:38:27.260fact is look look bro once again look at how this thing started bro this guy
01:38:32.180random he's a British citizen bro he went and killed these three kids why are
01:38:36.320you at a mosque why are you a mosque for why are you breaking down a mosque why
01:38:41.780there's a white man that killed three black girls and there wasn't the same
01:38:45.020out yeah well why not the same it's so active of what they've shown the media
01:38:49.020what's the name of the white guy that killed the three black girls they don't know they don't know
01:38:53.000yeah have you seen that clip have you seen there's a clip I haven't I can send it to
01:38:57.320you if you want to show it yeah but like uh there's a clip bro this guy who's
01:39:01.820literally he's being asked oh you know they're taking our jobs and this and I'm
01:39:05.660very upset etc Jamie Burrow bro comes out he's a pedophile bro look at this Jamie
01:39:09.140Burrow jailed 44 years for triple murder he killed a woman and two kids well you
01:39:13.180can't get a job white guy look can you see the white man but it was a white man Jamie
01:39:18.380Burrow yeah if this was about killing kids but there were two black kids and a
01:39:23.240woman yeah the story would be different yeah the outrage and then the guy was
01:39:26.540called Jamie Burrow he was why are you not doing rights for that oh clearly it's
01:39:30.140because okay there were white girls it's like would you respect you have to show
01:39:35.420all of these girls that have been killed the same level of care do you know I
01:39:40.180mean hundred percent but do you do you care at all about coexisting with the
01:39:44.100non-muslim of course bro they have to also care about coexisting with me yes at
01:39:49.740this point I don't want to I've had enough of bending the knee so yeah I'm
01:39:54.300gonna co-exist with you of that brother brother if you don't want to coexist with
01:39:59.040me take me out force me out force me out fight me do you do you work at this
01:40:04.860point I don't want to hear anymore I'm not gonna beg you to be my friend are you
01:40:08.420dumb are you stupid are you mad are you mad let me tell you straight the Muslim
01:40:15.320community are not in a position to be begging oh yeah we're gonna coexist and
01:40:18.860we believe in this and I can bring you a 10 a.m. and 10 hadith and 10 historical
01:40:23.420precedents and tennis bro you don't be Muslims bro you need Muslims your doctors
01:40:27.600are Muslims right go to your local hospital he's a Muslim even if your dentist is a
01:40:31.760Muslim yes your accountant is a Muslim your accountant is the Muslim bro your
01:40:35.600professor is a Muslim yeah you're flipping local shop he's a Muslim if we all left
01:40:40.760you'd be screwed let's say for the sake of argument we do you don't need Muslims
01:40:45.380yeah okay but we're still here though okay so I want to know but let me show you
01:40:52.940something yeah let me show this let me show it let me show you something we're
01:40:56.180gonna see you see this no no no no you see this you see this you see this you see
01:41:02.340this passport right here oh this has been with me for a long time you see it's got
01:41:07.260so many stamps because I've been to so many different very old yeah because it's
01:41:10.560got I've been traveling a lot and stuff like this can you see all the stamps I've
01:41:14.700been to it's different countries that I've been to yeah British man you see you
01:41:18.000see this passport I want you to take this away from me I want that's that's a
01:41:22.140challenge come and take it from me come and fight me for it standard if
01:41:26.580you're saying that you don't want me to be in your country if that's the issue
01:41:29.340deport him it's a come and take it come and take it and there's five million of
01:41:33.340these by the way there's five million imagine five billion I just want you to
01:41:37.260imagine five million passports for a second imagine a hundred passports then
01:41:41.900imagine two hundred now imagine a thousand now imagine ten thousand now
01:41:45.540imagine five million of these you think they're all gonna be deprived that's a
01:41:49.660lot of passports you think these all is that a reasonable thing you think
01:41:52.740you're gonna achieve the objective okay okay go and do it please I would like to
01:41:57.300see because if that's your objective you are going to fail you would have to get
01:42:02.100have an overhaul of the British Constitution you're going to fail your
01:42:05.860objective go ahead and try your worst do your thing do your best you have to
01:42:09.920coexist for me I don't have to coexist with you brother you have to coexist
01:42:13.620for me tell me outrage is really silly when you break it down like that like
01:42:17.220what act what are you gonna do what are you gonna do what what is what is this
01:42:21.540gonna solve it what's the purpose there is none there is none well the purpose is
01:42:25.320to drive more to distract us from power what's your purpose in raiding a shoe
01:42:29.040shop getting a couple shekels look at the complaint but the complaint is these
01:42:35.060people are coming in taking our jobs destroying our country well you guys are
01:42:38.640attacking the police you guys are reading shops you guys are stealing things
01:42:42.720from shops and I'm the problem someone said someone this is funny said so six
01:42:50.700million it's been done before it's never been done before it's never been done to
01:42:57.600that level no it's never in the modern age five million passports have never been
01:43:02.700taken away from any single minority no way no way no way in the western world if you
01:43:07.040make it happen make it happen make it happen make it happen make it happen come
01:43:17.000on man you think throwing a stone on a police a white officer is gonna make me
01:43:21.380lose my passport really okay well you've got a great thing it's gonna make you
01:43:25.460lose your passport let them do their thing man so this is not gonna how do you
01:43:30.020think is this gonna be resolved it's just gonna blow over in a couple weeks
01:43:32.960people move on to the next thing is that what's gonna happen well they do this in
01:43:36.960the summer time because they've got a lot of my school students it's a summer
01:43:40.860holiday they're bored they got nothing to do so clearly with September then
01:43:44.280this is gonna be there because they're all gonna go back to work and school and
01:43:47.460stuff like that but let them do it but let them get out as I said let them let
01:43:51.000them have fun they're having fun and in the process of having fun the far right I
01:43:55.560just want them to know as well in the process of having fun yeah I want you to
01:44:00.900if you want to commit crimes do it and you know I'm gonna do we're gonna take
01:44:05.200note of that we're gonna say that as a case study you score in an own goal we're
01:44:09.040gonna enjoy that in fact because we're gonna say look here you have these white
01:44:12.700people destroying houses and this and that they're British native indigenous
01:44:17.080etc etc etc but look at them you're giving us exactly what we want okay so
01:44:22.240continue please continue I'm not saying to stop continue do you want to commit
01:44:26.120crimes I'm not who am I to stop you from committing crimes who am I to stop you
01:44:30.220from being a thug continue being a son if you liked him if you like that they
01:44:34.060complain about what I'm gonna say again they complain about the Palestine
01:44:37.240protests 400 of you have been arrested in just the last week
01:44:41.260be a thug yeah you just thugs it's fine you could be a second if you want to be a
01:44:46.900third no one's gonna stop you I'm not telling you to stop if you want to be a
01:44:50.080third you know it's just a fine choice for a person like you to find choice for a
01:44:53.380loser it's a normal choice for someone in your position it's a fine choice
01:44:57.840continue please that's for me I've got other things to do I'm not going to be
01:45:01.680joining the protests I'm not going to enjoy it and not me and the Muslim
01:45:04.520community we're not necessarily Janik hopefully the Muslim community now
01:45:08.820realize that these guys are scored no go don't interrupt your enemy when they're
01:45:12.600making a mistake we're not going to be joining sorry to say Muslims don't get
01:45:17.160involved in this no don't honestly trust me just leave them you don't need to do
01:45:21.860anything all you need to do is defend yourself if someone tried to attack you
01:45:24.900that's fair enough yeah and if you need to bring a few people here and this and
01:45:28.300that they've organized like security if you need to pay a bit money for
01:45:32.280professional security and this and I and it do these things but don't do
01:45:36.120anything more than that because you would be now it's like they're scoring on
01:45:40.500goal and you're you're making you're saving them from scoring on goal leave
01:45:44.760them school and you know what this guy told me Robinson I really hope I hope
01:45:51.240when he flies back into the UK because eventually he's gonna have to I hope they
01:45:54.640arrest him at the border and throw that guy in prison because what this guy you
01:45:59.220know what what what what he has been doing on social media is reckless to say
01:46:04.280the least yeah you can continue please continue and that's why I'm seeing in
01:46:11.300Cyprus that's why he's in Cyprus you might as well stay there yeah at what
01:46:15.380point is someone like Elon Musk gonna be like okay this guy's I was thinking
01:46:18.980directly inside the violence like if that's the limits of free speech I agree
01:46:22.280I believe in some level of free speech but when it gets inciting violence like
01:46:26.180that's when you should be like at what point does that happen exactly I mean
01:46:30.220Elon Musk I think Elon Musk is you know we should have a conversation we were
01:46:35.380meant to have a conversation before Elon if you remember but I was a little bit
01:46:38.680busy but we can't have that conversation now when I was in Santa Clara you might
01:46:43.600remember the time but how long was that this was like you know 2019 or something
01:46:47.780like that you know he was actually interested in religion really yeah someone
01:46:52.820came to me he's one of his work that he said look you know Elon Musk wants to talk
01:46:56.500about religion I said I had to go back to London you know you can speak to
01:47:00.200him about the religion so actually at that time I think he wasn't as big as he
01:47:03.380was now you egoed Elon Musk in 2019 no I didn't ego him anything I just
01:47:07.580honestly I was tired and we had done it we had done it this guy's crazy no
01:47:12.060disrespect to him you know but I'm willing to have the conversation with him
01:47:15.560because you know I think he is worth it I think is he's an important figure you
01:47:20.440know yeah I'm not a witcher and we could talk about because a lot of purpose of
01:47:24.740life if you don't want to you don't have to but at the same time you know all
01:47:28.880these things that he's retweeting from Tommy Robinson and stuff like that he's
01:47:31.760retweeting I think he's retweeted about Tom Robinson I would just say to him
01:47:34.520listen brother you know I went to Pretoria I went to South Africa where he's I
01:47:38.840think he's originally at Pretoria I mean don't make people think that this is some
01:47:43.640kind of you know you know resentment that you have about colored people because of
01:47:48.860what's happened in South Africa or some kind of psychological issue like that I
01:47:52.260I I recently saw a thing about Elon Musk's son actually like you you know yeah
01:47:58.920the Sun is yeah you know something the Sun is dancing around well why what's wrong
01:48:03.360with his son doing that you know what's wrong with one no I mean if he's if he
01:48:08.280doesn't have a purpose of life he doesn't he can let him do what he wants at the
01:48:12.120end of the look you believe in free speech I don't understand Elon Musk's I
01:48:14.940actually don't understand him you know bro you believe in free speech and
01:48:18.300freedom expression absolutism yeah so why are you getting involved in your son's
01:48:23.880decision to be able to become a dress up like a girl why are you getting involved
01:48:28.020in that like for me as a Muslim I get involved in that because you know why
01:48:31.680because I'm Muslim and that is haram simple God said don't do it so you know
01:48:35.640but from what base on what basis do you disown your son what is your morality
01:48:39.300Elon Musk where'd you from whence from whence do you derive your morality good
01:48:43.920which is not if it's not from the scripture if it's not from if it's not from a
01:48:47.620organized political ideology he says it's a woke mind virus well how do you
01:48:52.000know that's bad you are not exactly there's no objective way it's all
01:48:55.900subjective you're you're you are being a subjectivist or wherever you are what
01:49:02.240you're trying to impose and enforce your views on your son if he doesn't you're
01:49:05.680leveraging him leave him alone leave him alone yeah we as a Muslim I'd say to him
01:49:10.060listen my son this is what the Quran says this is what God wants the thing is you
01:49:14.620can't have it both you can't be a free speech absolutist and a dogmatist at the
01:49:18.740same time what do you mean what do you mean but you believe in come everyone
01:49:25.140you put your lap pornography on Twitter brother so if you are lying pornography
01:49:29.080what's good for the goose is not good for the gander what what the chickens are
01:49:32.560coming home to roost brother well you're telling me you allow pornography on
01:49:35.860Twitter so that everyone can be infected and dopamine sensors can be messed up in
01:49:40.240their mind so that everyone can be harmed right you can have every this is
01:49:43.180everyone in society but that when your own son does this you're upset about it
01:49:47.920well why Elon porn is the reason your son is now a girl what it affects people's
01:49:53.180mind that's how you get the woke mind virus porn is how you catch it yes you
01:49:57.480don't must need to understand there's only a few moralities in the world that are
01:50:01.780strong enough to enforce behaviors on people the extent to which they will not
01:50:05.560veer into these directions Islam is chief most in that and if you if you
01:50:11.820embrace Islam if you embrace Islam Elon Musk and if you if you realize your
01:50:16.760purpose in life and you understand what you're here to do to worship Allah to God
01:50:20.560the one who created you and all of that this would happen I keep this Elon trust
01:50:25.720me everything will be okay everything will be okay be the most powerful man in
01:50:29.020the world everything will be okay listen everything will be okay you know
01:50:32.620everything will be okay yeah but right now everything is not okay I don't care
01:50:40.900how many billions you think we have because at the end of the day you can
01:50:43.360only put your hands on there's only so much you can use it's power what do you
01:50:47.360mean you have 250 billion for example yeah how much of that can you actually use
01:50:51.220brother come on man if I if you told me spend a million pound a day I would
01:50:56.860didn't know where to start but you gotta buy a property so you don't know but in
01:51:01.840terms of usage yourself you don't need that much money it doesn't mean
01:51:04.520anything frankly your legacy look your legacy you're thinking this is to do with
01:51:09.520money brother to do what would you respect in 20 30 40 years time you're
01:51:13.080going to be dead and the money is not going to be yours yeah you've got four
01:51:16.480years of using that money right you got four years of using money which you're
01:51:20.500not going to use it's going to go to your son who you've disowned already so
01:51:23.120what the hell what the hell who's it gonna go to sorry to say Annie sorry to
01:51:28.460say Annie who's gonna go to everything will be okay everything will be okay
01:51:36.800and it's funny like 250 billion that much money it's crazy when they still made him
01:51:41.800kiss the wall they still made him go to the museum with Ben Shapiro 250 billion he's
01:51:46.800still and I love and respect you I must I'm just but just what was that about a
01:51:50.560well they kiss the wall why kiss in the wall for bro no I don't understand you're
01:51:55.380not Jew this is not a practice that you believe he respects it he likes the
01:51:58.620yarmulke the size no but no it's a small hat I don't understand why you're kissing the
01:52:01.800wall though I don't understand it he said one time with the incentive you someone
01:52:06.420said he's trying to leverage me with money or something like trying to leverage me
01:52:08.880with money what's going on I don't understand do you know I don't know what
01:52:13.740you know what's happening here hmm what's happening yeah I don't know what's
01:52:17.200going on anyway we'll talk about it later Elon the point I'm trying to say to you
01:52:20.780is that you're all over the place at the moment you need guidance and the
01:52:23.720guidance is gonna come from this line definitely and a lot of his values align
01:52:28.600with the song he talks about having children and how important that is how you
01:52:32.640should you know stay away from the woke mind virus he thinks that
01:52:35.560transgenderism is bad he has some sort of conservative values but I'm not
01:52:38.860sure where they come from they don't decided there's no it's not consistent
01:52:42.800with anything so bro I mean even if all of his values were inconsistent of Islam or
01:52:47.920sorry consistent of Islam but I didn't believe in allies the true creator of the
01:52:51.700heavens and the earth maintain a sustainer in a nourisher Lord then you know his
01:52:57.300deeds will be have that and man thought I will be like nothing you have to accept the
01:53:02.680authority of the creator Elon Musk you must Allah the creator the nourisher the
01:53:09.940sustainer the maintainer the merciful the powerful the knowledgeable the willing the
01:53:17.500hearing the seeing this is if you don't accept this whatever bro it doesn't matter
01:53:24.220you're a man I'm a man you're gonna be in a grave that I'm gonna be in simple as
01:53:27.920that I don't care how much money you think we have with us and that doesn't
01:53:30.140matter and you know I know you're a bit insecure as well because brother you're
01:53:34.70050 years old challenging the Argentinian president for a fight and how comes
01:53:38.600you in a fight that was like a book who Yanni well why are you telling you got it
01:53:44.300well who's putting out of these fights why are you fighting anyone anyway what's
01:53:48.900going on here I've not seen you in the ring I don't see you like it's not a
01:53:52.680very straining Zuckerberg is doing stuff yeah you don't you know you've got all
01:53:57.060these billions but you want to get in the ring let's see you get in the ring
01:53:59.400brother with the Argentinian president I want to see that fight if that doesn't
01:54:03.480happen then I say I'm done with it don't don't talk about fighting again if you
01:54:07.500pull out again Elon it's done do you understand if you pull out again
01:54:12.000don't pull out yeah if you're gonna say you're gonna fight someone let him pull
01:54:21.840out let him pull out yeah you don't pull out you do not pull out
01:54:28.380don't pull out yeah how do you say pause in British please stay frozen you say
01:54:38.280pause okay was there yeah it's good sir what are we doing tomorrow what are you
01:54:47.160doing tomorrow at least and let's say yeah I don't know some chef told me to come
01:54:50.100to his house so other I'm gonna see but breakfast it cooler I don't know we'll see
01:54:56.900we'll see we'll go are you going to a monster yeah most I'm most I'm sorry
01:55:05.360stuff a lot most I'm maybe I mean I haven't got to see much of Bosnia
01:55:12.780besides the old top I don't know how much it also is to see you know why in this
01:55:18.680city at least I've only walked around the budget's taking pictures on this food
01:55:22.860spots a couple things yeah oh they said uh what do you think about a right
01:55:30.180tonight Stephen Yassi London's going on fresh and fit should yeah I mean my own
01:55:37.140saying that is it that he you know she sees both sides free speech absolutist
01:55:40.680this stuff you know they're good friends of mine and but can't ask my own a
01:55:43.860question and this is one of the man actually he gave me a great question to
01:55:47.240to ask him I've got a question from my own and anyone who believes in free
01:55:50.780speech absolutism since we started this podcast right talking about pedophilia
01:55:55.940yeah okay we spoke we started sort of a pedophilia okay you know you've got these
01:56:00.980AI kind of programs nowadays you know and this credit goes out the answer this
01:56:05.660because he's the one who gave his argument yeah you know you've got this AI kind of
01:56:12.360programs and stuff like that which you you can prompt it and it tells you what to do
01:56:16.220right should you be able to prompt if you believe in free speech absolutism I'm
01:56:22.220not talking about child pornography but can it shouldn't be allowed for you to
01:56:26.840make a prompt yeah that says that I want to see a child at the age of five
01:56:32.460years old having sex with a man even though it's like an animation but it's
01:56:36.860not really animation it's real it's real in one sense because it looks just real but
01:56:41.920it's not really another sense because it's not actual pornography it's not actual
01:56:45.860children now if you believe in free speech absolutism this is not harming a
01:56:49.820child because it's not a child actually it's not a person I've heard destiny
01:56:53.480make that exact argument so it it should be allowed because it protects
01:56:56.600pedophiles from doing it so that they exercise their deviance he says it isn't
01:57:00.440actually he doesn't he thinks yes I should be able to okay so fantastic he
01:57:04.160believes in child pornography then so people like that they believe in a form of
01:57:08.360child pornography so if you're a free speech absolutist in the age of AI
01:57:12.860you must believe in a form of child pornography what the photos what is a
01:57:19.400kind of speech though put a porn doesn't kind of speech would you mean why why
01:57:24.140would you put porn in the category fruit of speech Danny because when they say
01:57:27.540like usually in the political landscape and stuff like in the in the literature
01:57:31.640they when they say free speech they mean expression as well they mean both
01:57:34.580yeah it's it's a shorthand so what I'm saying is if you believe in freedom of
01:57:42.740speech and expression right then you these AI programs right should be allowed now
01:57:49.160what I'm saying to you is that if you really truly believe that then you
01:57:51.980believe in a college kind of child pornography you know and that's why it's a
01:57:55.220holy cow but a free speech absolutist argument it's a holy cow it's a god in
01:57:59.580itself which needs to be dismantled because it's always going to be limits to
01:58:02.340free speech I mean society has really realized always copyright we're gonna be
01:58:06.460real free speech is never it's never really fully free speech never never has
01:58:10.260right I say that because I mean there should be like I should be able to talk
01:58:13.860about coven and not get banned on YouTube yeah you're a prime example no but no
01:58:17.940but that's I'm saying that we would argue against the fact that that's that's
01:58:21.240wrong you know that but we will say morally speaking morally speaking would you
01:58:25.520accept the kind of free speech which allows a kind of AI type pornography that
01:58:29.720could exist which doesn't harm a direct child but which does it is so you'd have
01:58:33.640to say yes to that that's a solid argument that's one number two is look
01:58:36.820there's already things in society which exist things like for example plagiarism
01:58:40.540and copyright which protect persons rights that actually go against
01:58:44.220capitalistic and economic interests because if you want an economy to thrive
01:58:49.080if you have copyright if you don't have copyright laws and trademark laws etc then
01:58:53.200the economy will not thrive even inventions will not be patented etc so the free speech
01:58:58.640and expression has to not trespass that area more consequentialist perspective as
01:59:04.400well so number two so there's lots of things that prove that free speech
01:59:07.520absolutism in that sense that myra and others have been advocating it is nonsense
01:59:11.180and therefore to to posit it as a justification for having the likes of
01:59:14.540Tommy Robinson on who as we've already mentioned from the Islam perspective I
01:59:17.480don't know my mind is a Muslim or not or he cares he's a muscle he's a muscle but I'm
01:59:20.600saying it's a positive as a kind of justification right I would consider that to
01:59:24.240be you would first have to prove that free speech absolutism is a objectively
01:59:29.540correct the correct or valid moral position before you subsequently try and
01:59:34.740prove the validity of that position or try and justify having someone like to
01:59:39.800move on the podcast moreover just because like say for example if I'm you know
01:59:45.180taking off this this stream right now it doesn't mean that you're against freedom
01:59:49.560speech giving someone an opportunity to come to a podcast is not giving it as
01:59:54.540someone an opportunity to come to a podcast not an expression of a lack of
01:59:57.000freedom of speech you don't need to facilitate for the enemy and a pulpit for
02:00:04.020him to disseminate or pepper perpetuate his falsehoods and lies so there's lots of
02:00:10.260things I've already spoken to my own about this in the fresh and fit thing but
02:00:13.120remember I this these are logical arguments I'm making to him and to other
02:00:17.740people but really and truly it deprecates from him as a person and it even
02:00:22.000deprecates from and retain everyone else who associates somehow loosely with
02:00:25.000Tommy Robinson I think the reason why it's happening is because they realize a
02:00:28.900lot of these far-right people what yeah share an audience and broke you can't
02:00:34.780just try and have a big net that captures all the audience this doesn't work like
02:00:37.780that I've kind of you know I've done that before yeah yeah you have to realize
02:00:43.600that you have to you have to take a stance you didn't end up sacrificing your
02:00:46.540principles if you have any yeah yeah that's 100% true I agree I don't think
02:00:52.180that he should be on that show I think that there's there's lines some people
02:00:56.980cross and at that point you're just you're an enemy of our religion and if you
02:01:00.360disrespect Islam you're disrespecting it's equivalent to disrespect to your
02:01:03.080mother if not greater so that there's just at that point like you're you're an
02:01:07.420enemy of mine so yes but I mean we'll see I understand his point of view
02:01:11.980because he he sees content is like you know yeah but he's doing overwhelmingly
02:01:19.120good things so he is like I said it under tape people shouldn't push him too much I
02:01:24.100said this before my own after I hope I really do hope he finds his way he had a
02:01:27.620big rant but yeah that I'll show you this about Haram police this actually goes
02:01:30.340into your ran earlier but oh really yeah I'll show you I interrupted you but it goes in line with what