00:16:52.180what is the the uh recent controversy that you're in you know
00:16:56.680i'm used to being in controversy isn't it
00:16:59.520uh i see when you say what controversy i'm in i don't know which one you're talking about i'm always
00:17:03.600in something there's always something going on so you there's like three or four things you can speak about right now
00:17:08.600yeah subhanallah this is the thing sometimes i'm just scrolling at twitter and i see some people attacking you randomly or something like that people always talking about you for some reason
00:17:16.580i think it's is the fact that your name is viral maybe that's why they're using you as a as a means you know
00:17:21.200i think a lot of these people are envious and it is really sad sometimes
00:17:24.720where where you have a streamer at least he's doing something or trying to do something good in a way you know you spend the whole month of ramadan
00:17:30.520look it doesn't matter what kind of view they have against you
00:17:33.140like no one can come and say you know someone spending a whole month collecting money for charity
00:17:37.560for palestine is not it's not doing good
00:17:40.080you know and these streamers who are or these people who generally criticize you like what kind
00:17:44.680of good have we seen them doing what kind of charity kind of collections that they have been
00:17:49.020doing in the last how many years you know these people have millions like thousands of tens of thousands
00:17:53.660of dollars so it's really surprising sometimes when i see people attacking you uh for oh you're doing
00:17:59.000this you're doing that yeah i mean i don't really see it too important to compare i i'm trying to think
00:18:04.520about the audience so i see people get really upset when i talk about my refusal to take a gambling
00:18:09.000deal because they see it as a reflection of their own actions but i'm not when i talk about that it's
00:18:13.780not trying to be a personal attack on these on these people i'm just trying to i want the audience to
00:18:18.420know that you don't need to go sell out your morals and you know what's better for the world is is that
00:18:22.680you make the right decision and i maybe i could do that in a more gracious way i'm trying to approach
00:18:28.480this content thing more stoically uh with more stoicism but what's your perception um yeah we'll do the
00:18:35.280debate review but what's your what's your overall perception on on how i've been handling things and
00:18:40.120how do you think i could do better and make it more islamic
00:18:42.060but you know we kind of had like a brief kind of talk about that last time you know in a way right
00:18:48.680it's like it's impossible to live in the world you're living in and make it islamic right
00:18:52.920it's like the best you could do is to do as best as you can which is what i can think i can see you
00:18:57.960trying to do essentially right uh as as much as possible you're trying to avoid to bring like these
00:19:02.900women that is you know what they're doing all of this you know a prostitute kind of activities
00:19:08.060online or this or that you're trying to avoid doing that for example you're trying to bring
00:19:11.580people who are more educating the people on an intellectual level because you know something
00:19:15.780which is really funny is like you do not need to be number one a clown number two using women's
00:19:23.540bodies in order for you to give views and i think the fact that the whole western world in a way the
00:19:29.480whole streaming world thinking you have to either do one of these two things in order for you to get
00:19:33.940views is pathetic it's honestly the most pathetic thing i've ever seen it is an admit of defeat in
00:19:39.600every in every level you know it's an admit that these people have got nothing intellectual to offer
00:19:44.260have got no no real benefit to the world that they can put forward that's why they have to rely on
00:19:49.220using women or have to rely on acting in the most ridiculous crazy type of you know childish manner
00:19:55.300because this is what gets the clicks like and you know i don't i'm not i don't like using myself as
00:20:00.820an example but it's not even just me or any anyone in general you see people brothers doing dawah and
00:20:05.520you'll see them on live streaming and you'll see them with with an average of seven eight k
00:20:10.580people watching and there's no women's and there's no women in the screen there is no uh you know
00:20:16.560jumping like a clown making uh monkey noises acting like you're homosexual and and you know like
00:20:21.960getting all of these you know physical objects out of the screen yeah all of this is like crazy
00:20:28.620stuff that you're about to do right now yeah so there is no need for any of that in order for you
00:20:33.340to get uh people interested because you're offering value the difference is you're actually offering
00:20:39.100value to the world you're offering you're offering information you're helping people who are who are
00:20:43.460looking for answers for certain questions you're educating people you're educating the world you're
00:20:47.680giving them information you're giving them benefit and they are curious about these things that's why
00:20:51.700these people are watching so i i honestly think it's pathetic when people think that i need a
00:20:56.160woman uh not just a woman i need a woman's body to be to be very specific there because it's not about
00:21:00.800the woman let's see if they're gonna bring a woman in a hijab in a burka or something you're gonna put
00:21:05.340her in the stream for views they're not gonna do that because that defeats the purpose right it's not
00:21:09.920about the woman it's about using the woman's body in that in that way for for the the viewers who are
00:21:15.040sadly pathetic most of the time and got nothing going on in their life so they need to see a woman
00:21:20.280in the screen because they have no real interaction with women in real life so they end up watching
00:21:24.860this stuff and then getting you know excited by watching you know whatever kind of things that
00:21:29.700appear on the screen i think this is pathetic first because they are using their viewers because you
00:21:34.900know they this woman that comes on the screen they're using her as an object to get content and
00:21:39.860then they're using their viewers the weak mentality of their viewers and the fact that they're not able to
00:21:44.820get anything so that's why they keep screaming bring us a woman in the screen where is the
00:21:48.640girls where is the girls where is the girls 24 hours i think it's just pathetic honestly this
00:21:52.380this whole scene this whole kind of streaming world in the west is pathetic uh this is the least i could
00:21:58.520say i mean that's the that's the game of entertainment and you know i did a month straight and they never
00:22:04.200speak about that a month straight of just doing dawah completely halal content i like even refrain from
00:22:09.440things like music we're just a month speaking to shakes speaking to students knowledge like yourself
00:22:13.780having uh islamic conversations and then they don't talk about for a month straight and then for
00:22:18.220people to still insinuate like i'm in mecca i'm literally streaming in medina like in a haram all
00:22:23.680the way over there with half the viewers that i i have in america because it's you know it's my
00:22:28.680religion and people still call me a fake muslim but i don't really it doesn't really affect me
00:22:34.100anymore i'm i'm at the point where i'm just trying to to add something good to this conversation
00:22:39.480because i know how the entertainment is is i people want to see that you know you're gonna have to
00:22:44.180ultimately you do have to compromise a halal completely to be able to garner a good audience
00:22:49.660right like for example think about like the ads that show up some of them are haram right if you're
00:22:55.320going to be scrolling and looking at twitter there's going to be music playing you're going to be cursing
00:22:58.660sometimes it just happens if you do debates and stuff like that you're going to be speak at the
00:23:02.360coffer or there's going to be women like you it's there's some semblance of free mixing in order to
00:23:07.720be a good entertainer entertainer you do have to compromise to some extent don't you agree
00:23:11.880yeah so i kind of disagree and agree in the same time like i'll explain why like for example you
00:23:17.540say you have to speak someone who's not a muslim that's not haram from islam point of view that's
00:23:21.040encouraged that's what that way is right if i if i need to speak someone who's not a muslim uh you say
00:23:25.300for example you have to speak to women okay there's a difference between i speak to women on my life
00:23:28.880streams but they have their cameras off and i have a discussion with them about what they actually
00:23:32.780believe and they actually think and not how their body looks and you know what they're wearing today
00:23:36.840you know it's not what this dream is about right so it's not about also not talking to women you can
00:23:40.840also talk to women but it's about the idea of why are you talking to me what what is the reason
00:23:45.800you're using it you talk about for example scrolling right whatever you follow is most of the time what
00:23:50.400the algorithm is about to show you what you click on is what the what the algorithm is going to
00:23:54.020recommend to you most of the time so if you click on my youtube if you open my youtube for example
00:23:57.720all is going to appear is the islamic content this this person this sheikh this person this is what
00:24:02.760it's going to appear right this person doing dawah this is what it's going to be this if this is what
00:24:06.240you watch this is what what youtube what recommend for you for example right and certain apps that i
00:24:10.620don't use at all like for example tiktok because it's like whatever who doesn't matter what you
00:24:14.420follow they're trying to show you something they're trying to funnel you into some kind of you know
00:24:18.260prostitution online for women or this they're just trying to do it either way whatever you're trying
00:24:21.980to do that's why i don't even have it on my phone exactly that's why i don't even have it on my
00:24:25.260phone because it's all a plan to do that so uh there is a level of in islam we don't have this idea
00:24:30.940of compromise we don't need compromise because islam allows you all the room that you need the
00:24:37.340only need a time you need compromise is islam is not perfect enough that it allows you the room that
00:24:41.320you need right so the point is islam has the room all the room that you need you don't need to
00:24:46.600compromise you don't need to change you don't need to do anything in that way but but this is what i
00:24:50.280was telling you look i'm speaking again from an islamic point of view and i told you before last time
00:24:53.700that you're kind of coming from a completely different world you are within a completely different
00:24:57.380you live in a completely different state so you will have to kind of you're in the end if you
00:25:02.940want to continue what you're doing there has to be a mixture but you're you're decreasing it as much
00:25:06.860as you can which is a very respectful and an honor honorable thing and i hope in the end you're able
00:25:11.100to kind of make it uh the best way possible you know when you're able to yeah i'm not yeah avoid it
00:25:16.920i am trying my best and i was wondering did did you get the chance to watch the the debate with
00:25:22.520uh the 2v1 debate with xqc and uh destiny well i honestly did not i i you know tell you something
00:25:29.960funny right i had someone like dm me like not not not long ago like today i was just scrolling and i
00:25:36.840found it and someone said think you had a debate with this person about that and please tell him
00:25:40.880not to do this not do that and i was thinking like okay you know like it's funny at the same time
00:25:46.180they're thinking that i'm gonna call you okay brother what are you doing i understand this is the
00:25:49.580thing i understand you've got this passion to speak about islam which is good like to tell
00:25:54.140people about islam and to also and educate your viewers to speak to these kind of lost youtubers
00:25:58.840about like what islam is and what and the purpose of life and and you shouldn't live you know and
00:26:03.640your wife is cheating on you and you're leaving you and you're asking for girls feet and stuff
00:26:07.340shouldn't be doing this stuff you know you should be actually yeah you should actually be living a good
00:26:12.640life and getting married and having children and living like an actual human being right so so i appreciate
00:26:18.380you doing that and i understand but sometimes you have to as i said you have to educate yourself a
00:26:23.860little bit on the topics and and the points that you make so we can watch it inshallah i didn't watch
00:26:28.520the full thing but we can watch it and i didn't get a chance because okay i thought you were going to
00:26:32.400be able to watch honestly there's not really uh we could show some highlights but it's 30 minutes
00:26:36.920it's just it's a waste of time instead of like i could it um i could ask you like what's the most
00:26:41.860effective way to um to answer you know no no i think i think we can watch it and i'll tell you
00:26:48.200why we can watch it because i think you can benefit from it like i want to see how you respond and then
00:26:53.760also i want to show you the tactics that they use it's up to you of course in the end but i want to
00:26:57.800show you the tactics that they would use with you and you're speaking i think it can be highly
00:27:00.640beneficial not just for you but for the people watching as well okay um i'll bring it up right now
00:27:05.780it's on it's on twitter it's it's around 30 minutes though um and i i am i'm supposed to call
00:27:11.480um i'm supposed to call somebody at eight o'clock yeah no problem what you can do is you can put it
00:27:17.640if you like on x2 or something and then we can you know okay perfect listen to it quickly hopefully
00:27:22.400you can catch what these people are saying great i appreciate it no problem okay i think it's right
00:27:29.760or you know we could we could watch um you want to watch some clips from it uh it's up to you but
00:27:38.840trust me it's going to be a lot more beneficial if you watch the thing i think it's on the top you
00:27:42.220missed it it's 31 minute isn't it um where down is it down down down you missed it is that yeah is
00:27:51.180this one here it is yeah i can't be homophobic against you if you're not gay like so it's no it's
00:27:55.500intention based that's how i see it it's not just intention it's a difference in um in application
00:27:59.140because he'll say because he'll say that even if the intention he'll say that the intention is
00:28:01.380determined by knowing whether or not because he's saying that if he knew you were gay he wouldn't say
00:28:03.300the word right yeah well i think that is drawn when you put the prefix behind it that's what i was
00:28:06.720saying with the preface of like oh dude um i see the clip i personally can understand by the way i
00:28:12.060don't know about your viewers but most of the stuff i watch you next to this is how how i operate
00:28:16.160usually i know but i said these guys like they already speak in x2 they do that without even the
00:28:21.900speeding up thing so i i can't really say you're kissing dudes i think that intent is drawn there
00:28:28.180like am i delusional here or like no what are you talking about so is it intention of the word
00:28:31.700because the fuck is joined clearly kuff does not hate gay people so is it the word or the intention
00:28:36.020why do we say clear there's nothing clear about that how do we know that he just said he doesn't
00:28:40.220hate gay people that's what i'm saying i have a gay brother if somebody says they don't hate gay
00:28:43.300people that means they don't hate gay people since when has that ever been the standard by which we
00:28:45.680determine somebody's like feelings this is the fucking grand finale 2024 cuck off
00:28:50.200yeah well i'm asking you sqc you're right so is it the intention or is it the word because where
00:28:54.240do you draw the line uh i i think i think i try to be reasonable about about the uh intention
00:28:59.600based on what i have um in front of me if i do feel like the because intention is impossible to
00:29:05.540fucking to prove right and that was not a court of law but it's like it you give a general feel
00:29:09.740it's what the target was i don't want my community to hear it why do you draw the line for the word
00:29:14.380faggot with your community but you can call your fans broke you could say you want to kill cheeser
00:29:18.520you could say thug so why why is faggot why did you draw the line that issue so okay so first
00:29:23.420question i want to ask you um muhammad ali is it haram to use words like faggot well if you're just
00:29:30.800using it generally i don't think i wouldn't say that's necessarily haram you know it's oh look
00:29:35.420using a term generally is very different as well from specifically using it against someone right
00:29:40.340these are two separate things so uh you know demeaning and degrading people of course i think you know
00:29:45.540this is not necessarily a halal behavior to take with anyone you know specific individual trying
00:29:50.460to demean them and because in the end even your goal is you actually care about people that you
00:29:55.160want good for them you don't want them to start having a defense shield against you because you're
00:30:00.540insulting them rather than actually listening to you and open up and changing their perspective
00:30:04.060so i would say it's more of a ripple effect if you use these terms with these individuals
00:30:07.700okay what about the idea of homophobia i wasn't sure if i was going to be able to to defend that
00:30:14.440isn't homophobia part is not ingrained in not just islam but all religions the idea because if you
00:30:20.100look up the definition it's having negative attitudes or a negative attitude towards gay
00:30:24.900people yeah they changed the definition actually but are these still going to talk about homosexuality
00:30:31.220if they are then let them finish everything and then i'll make some comments i don't agree with
00:30:36.440the cheeser thing i think that was kind of out of pocket but um the other thing i think one is
00:30:40.820because is it something that um all right this is more of a worldview thing right is anything that
00:30:45.580you can change right isn't that people agree that you shouldn't you that you shouldn't hit somebody
00:30:50.080on it is it like a protected class are are broke people or or or let's say um as an insult even
00:30:55.440right is that like a marginalized group in that way okay so you can change being a faggot like you
00:31:02.800can stop doing that or you can't when you call call from a thug he can't change his skin color
00:31:06.460he's always going to be black wait okay nothing about thug it's not it's not so we're using
00:31:13.500protected class but usually it's a proxy for like these things probably shouldn't be bad things so
00:31:17.360if you make fun of somebody for being broke right usually because being broke is a bad thing nobody
00:31:20.780wants to be broke broke people don't want to be broke you make fun of something fat well nobody wants
00:31:24.160to be fat like even fat people don't want to be fat you make somebody for being gay well the
00:31:27.840implication is that like being gay must be bad the same that's why you got offended the reason that
00:31:31.860faggots get offended when you say that word is because they don't actually want to be faggots
00:31:35.380no the reason they get offended is because they think that other people are loading that word in
00:31:38.580a really negative way and they're being hateful with it no it comes from a deep-rooted shame that
00:31:41.800they're never going to be accepted for who they are that's not the reason is that why is that why
00:31:46.140they get so ass mad about it that they come out and they attack literally every fucking person
00:31:50.880they see even it means beheading people in a comic book shop that's that's not true because you're
00:31:54.320still walking around and you've made fun of a slot if that were true that's because i live in the
00:31:56.840United States of America thank god but no so i'm asking so then would you say every time a muslim
00:31:59.520lashes out at somebody because you make fun of their religion is like you have a deep-seated shame about it
00:32:02.460no i'm saying that the reason that xqc draws a line there it's not because of this morality thing
00:32:06.360because nobody wants to be fat nobody wants to be broke nobody wants to be a muslim why do they
00:32:09.960get so offended when you make fun of them that's what do you say yeah i was just saying you stop
00:32:14.260there just to address this this kind of ridiculous nonsensical claim this blue-haired guy is making
00:32:19.160right so he's trying to say he's trying to equate a personal shame to a defense of an idea of ideology
00:32:26.660and ideology is not something that is you you're so this is this is now the false equivalence
00:32:30.720that he's making in this analogy right right so when we say for example when a muslim get angry
00:32:34.380he gets angry for because he has a belief in a specific ideology and he believes this ideology
00:32:39.140is true and then he believes that you are misrepresenting or showing this ideology in a
00:32:43.580way which it shouldn't be so they're passionate about that ideology that they believe in but
00:32:47.680in the example that you made there's a sense of shame because it's a personal thing now someone
00:32:51.820can come and say okay but religion is a personal thing yes but this is not is the difference is
00:32:56.560it's an ideology that he believes in it is not an action that he's engaging when as engaging with
00:33:01.640as a human being so if i'm if i'm ashamed for example if i do gambling or or you know i steal or
00:33:07.680i do any of these things this is a personal action that i personally do not just that ideology that i
00:33:12.400believe in these are two separate things so there is a false equivalence that he's making there but in
00:33:16.660the end no one is saying islam is not teaching you to get angry if just anyone is talking about islam
00:33:20.360as well this is another straw man that he's making in this analogy so uh islam doesn't teach if
00:33:25.640someone speaks of islam then you just go around and do whatever this stuff he's saying so that's
00:33:29.440not islam but maybe it doesn't work does that false equivalency happen i notice it a lot um not just
00:33:33.940with these blue hair people with all of them isn't their religion because humans are always inclined
00:33:37.840to follow something they need faith in something don't you think that lgbt and this whole you know
00:33:43.120that craziness that's become their faith and their religion that's why they compare it to islam
00:33:47.420yeah you you can say that you can say it has become an ideology for certain people to adopt
00:33:53.240but but if you're talking about the sense of shame it's not to do with the ideology
00:33:57.080like if you call them that they don't feel ashamed because of their ideology of lgbtqs being attacked
00:34:03.200but is of their personal behavior personal action and interaction in that specific act that they're
00:34:08.100ashamed of doing okay it has nothing to do with what we're talking about like people don't
00:34:13.240people get offended for being gay because they're
00:34:15.300the way he debates is he's going to equate being muslim to being gay nobody gets offended
00:34:24.260if a blue-haired destiny calls me a muslim nobody's offended right if i say if i call somebody gay and
00:34:28.700you're not gay they'll get offended because nobody wants to be gay they're not they're not offended
00:34:31.980they don't want to be around people that are hateful they're upset because you're being
00:34:34.220hateful towards them the same way they get offended when you talk about their religion
00:34:36.900also i think i think that that they they have kind of the right to be upset right to be kind of shit on
00:34:41.820they can't change right no no no no no it doesn't have to be can't change or can change
00:34:46.740you can change your nationality it doesn't necessarily mean you should attack somebody
00:34:49.560over their nationality you can change the country you're living in or whatever it's a
00:34:52.000well that that's that's gonna it's gonna how that's like like my view on it it's like i i i don't
00:34:58.060think it's a good thing to go around just being who you are and being clapped on all the time for it
00:35:01.520i think it's just i think it's a trick it can feel bad but i mean like insults are supposed to feel
00:35:04.540bad but the question is like what do you want to make somebody feel bad for right if it's a bad
00:35:08.720characteristic so if you think somebody's generally bad because they're like a nazi or
00:35:11.780tanky or a brokey or they're fat or whatever those are all like bad characteristics then you
00:35:15.620say like oh well fuck it yeah you can make fun of people for these things if you make fun of
00:35:17.620somebody for being gay the implication is you think that being gay is like a negative bad characteristic
00:35:20.940and that's why you're being bad for it that's why the person but that's the question i want to ask
00:35:25.260you is it islamic to believe that being gay is bad yeah correct right before we talk about before
00:35:32.380we think before we talk about bad and good there is there is there is an argument that this guy
00:35:36.300the other guy is making i don't know who's like his speech is not really clear this is the
00:35:40.640this guy the argument is trying to make is uh that it is a natural thing to be it's not choice
00:35:45.980you're born that way yeah and being gay is a choice yeah yeah yeah yeah this is the thing this is that
00:35:52.620what you were saying but he's he's he's rebutting that by saying it's a problem to shame someone for
00:35:57.060being themselves right but where's the argument where's the evidence that he provided that being
00:36:01.120homosexual is a natural thing it's a natural state of the human being where where is the evidence
00:36:05.800and scientific or otherwise that shows that and by the way i me as a muslim or you or anyone doesn't
00:36:10.320need to to give evidence for anything because they're making the claim that this is an innate
00:36:13.560position you are making the claims an innate position to be a homosexual then provide your
00:36:19.220evidence where is the evidence that this is the innate state like no one is going to argue is that is
00:36:23.800being heterosexual is innate or not because it's the biological thing and a man and woman engage they
00:36:28.740they have birth there's a specific uh you know body parts that are created and they're supposed to be in
00:36:33.460harm in a specific way that god created them to be that's that is the biological thing that takes
00:36:37.780place but if you want to claim now that that something other than that is is natural then
00:36:42.760where is your evidence for that the funny thing is that there is evidence opposite to that so right now
00:36:47.560if you try to google for example open another page and try to google 2019 uh no gay gene nature magazine
00:36:54.780no gay gene there's no gay gene but genetics are like the same sex behavior
00:36:59.860no no put put nature magazine there's specific research that was published in nature i hope it's
00:37:04.660still there and they didn't remove it or something
00:37:06.320yes so this is nature magazine yeah no one anyone who understands anything about science knows what
00:37:13.740nature is so there was a massive study billions of dollars paid or millions or however that they did
00:37:18.360in the west trying to find the gay gene why didn't they try to find the gay gene because they tried to
00:37:22.260justify the fact that being gay is actually genetic is actually something you don't have a control over
00:37:26.840and you're forced to be that way and they spend these millions of dollars on these studies and
00:37:31.680they end up they end up themselves admitting that there is no such thing there is no gay gene it
00:37:36.100doesn't exist and now so this is the first thing the study does the studies themselves they're making
00:37:41.180is showing that there's no such thing but not only that there are studies opposite to that
00:37:45.320like for example there's a book uh written by two scientists called my genes uh made me do it
00:37:50.940my genes made me do it you can google it also if you like that book has a lot of different studies
00:37:55.780and and and they display why this is not a an innate thing and some yeah and some of the same
00:38:03.260thing like depression like that that whole idea that it's a chemical imbalance was debunked thinking
00:38:06.880that it's something depression is not something that you just catch it's something that you choose
00:38:10.780to do and and some of what the what they do for example some of the evidences they use they bring
00:38:15.660identical twins you know identical twins are identical twins are are almost similar 100 in their
00:38:21.460genetic makeup and then they bring one twin who is homosexual and the other isn't so how is it a
00:38:27.440genetic thing when when they are they basically have almost the same genetic makeup but one of them
00:38:32.400is is uh homosexual and the other is not the other straight and they have the same environment of
00:38:36.760growing up in so these these are some of the evidences they display that this is not a natural
00:38:42.200thing right so this is a book there's even a study a massive study that was done but but it was too
00:38:46.380against poli uh being a political thing you know it was against the the liberalism that's why they
00:38:52.340had to take it down it was the study of dr robert spitzer which is a father of modern modern psychology
00:38:57.260in america and what he did is he did he conducted a study he spoke to 200 uh homosexuals on the phone
00:39:04.740poor guy both of them both of them yeah both of them changed to heterosexual tendencies all of them
00:39:10.140sorry changed to heterosexual tendencies 200 people how and he was he spoke to them that's it
00:39:15.800what what did he tell did he give him dawah was he muslim no no he he is a a a psychology he's the
00:39:21.600father of modern psychology in america actually it's not just a random guy his name is robert spitzer
00:39:25.880and he conducted this study but he called it a reparative treatment i.e. repairing something which
00:39:31.220which is which is used to be repaired that's why he was attacked by the media and he had to change
00:39:35.120the name from reparative treatment and later on he had to come on and retract the whole study and say
00:39:40.400you know what the study was deficient why did he say it's deficient he said because you cannot know
00:39:43.720uh just through the phone if they actually have become heterosexual or not and you cannot know when
00:39:48.840someone is truly homosexual or not some nonsense to try to avoid the fact that this the findings of
00:39:53.980this study that he spent years on of speaking to 200 people and all of them have changed into heterosexual
00:39:59.160tendencies and and you know you know before the 1960s by the way homosexuality was a psychological
00:40:05.300disorder now this is not my opinion this is in every medical textbook before the 1960s before the
00:40:10.480liberalism and and the sexual quote-unquote revolution and all of this stuff that happened
00:40:14.640this was a psychological disorder and and and they always tied it the psychologists of that time
00:40:20.140they tied it to uh abuse when when you're young so for example lack of father figure when you're
00:40:27.300growing up abused or maybe they were molested or something or they had since young or they're
00:40:31.080exposed to porn or or they were they're abused by their own parents or they don't have a father
00:40:35.580figure in in their in their family for example growing with just a mother all of these things
00:40:40.140uh have been the the common factor that has been used in all of these studies before the 1960s when
00:40:46.800the 1960s came and it became being gay at criticizing it has become politically politically a sin
00:40:53.420incorrect to do in the western world then no one was allowed to to label it as such
00:40:59.580and and gender and then you have people like joe money and you have people like uh you know these
00:41:04.940people are coming and alfred kenzie who came and said you know what this gender is a social construct
00:41:09.700also i think he was jewish correct alfred kenzie yeah yeah yeah yeah so these people look it's funny
00:41:16.200when you trace sometimes you know that people come from lineage wise you know it's a different story
00:41:20.420for a different day but the thing is this right yeah they they propose this nonsense about that the
00:41:24.620gender is not really you know we don't know what a man or these are all made up concepts you know
00:41:29.000you had joe money and these people conducting studies who are actually trying to get pleasure in babies
00:41:33.660like in children who are like so so it was crazy crazy stuff you know but the thing is look so right
00:41:39.400now i've provided you like different types of articles and evidences that demonstrates there's no such thing
00:41:44.600right i i don't even need to finish you you've debunked like pretty much the rest of the the
00:41:49.280debate um i just before interrupting i'm sorry but he goes on to say like their position is their
00:41:56.240morale because i i go i was trying to give them dawah my argument was that all my morality all my
00:42:01.460beliefs they go back to the quran sunnah halas that's it just quran sunnah that's that's how you
00:42:05.380need to have something that hasn't changed in order to figure out right from wrong can you can you
00:42:09.080skip then the part that where they're talking about the gate into into when they get to the age of
00:42:12.300the age of consent the marriage of the prophet yeah the age of consent and this and that right
00:42:15.700but so so i really know it's what it's like their position is that the morality is always adapting
00:42:20.160it's always changing it always changes with the times and that's how it could be consistent because
00:42:24.360if once if one year in one decade it's uh being gay is a mental illness and then the other decade
00:42:29.120is not then you're always going to shift and it could easily be corrupted because mankind is
00:42:32.960or we're inherently flawed let's go uh i think the age of yeah the reason the reason i'm trying to
00:42:37.760listen to them is see that none of them can claim that we're misrepresenting their position but
00:42:41.340taking the words of the more the horse's mouth you know you take it from their own mouth and then
00:42:45.220debunk what they're saying um i want to play this last one and then can i add um i want to add uh this
00:42:52.640this guy steve will do it to the call is that okay with you yeah that's fine okay perfect he he's um
00:42:57.160not he's a disbeliever and he wants to learn a little bit more you can add the anyone you want
02:09:22.760I mean, it's pretty normal in the influencer space.
02:09:24.940That's why I didn't get upset when he was, like, attacking me and saying these things.
02:09:28.160Because I know how influencers think, and there's not, there's not the expectation of brotherhood or loyalty.
02:09:34.080So, I'm not upset about him, and I do forgive him.
02:09:37.960And, yeah, I want to, I want to have proper conversation with him.
02:09:41.700What I should have done, I should have added, I had a Muslim sheikh that was waiting to add to the call, but I think he went to sleep instead.
02:09:47.240But, I should have added him to the call and just, like, went full Dawa mode.
02:09:50.380But, it's like, there's the, like, as a content creator, there's the back and forth.
02:09:53.680There's, like, the inclinations to get content, right?
02:09:56.840Setting up a fight with you on the stream.
02:09:58.920And, like, oh, okay, it's going to be big.
02:38:59.400It's like, bro, I suppressed it for five years and my team taps me on the shoulder and they're like, hey, you can buy two houses right now.
02:39:06.180And I said, no, one house and one Ferrari.
02:40:55.840When you are 50, what do you think is going to happen?
02:40:58.120Would you think like, oh man, I should have bought that Ferrari or I should have invested money and set up myself for the future?
02:41:02.680My team said, you know, if you just hire someone like Myron to do you a fresh fit style podcast at the Zerka house, you'll have 10 Ferraris in a year.
03:13:06.120He would have had it without the devil.
03:13:07.760The devil tricked him for the soul and perverted God's grace and said, no, I gave you that.
03:13:16.280And if you told Brad Pitt this, you said, you know, you would have been this big and famous without the devil.
03:13:22.020You signed your soul for free, motherfucker.
03:13:24.380I'm saying your comparison and your idea of happiness and success and fulfillment is also devilish by using Brad Pitt as an example,
03:13:32.380because the measurement is a fame and a success.
03:13:34.840And I'm saying that the guy in prison who found Islam, who picked up the Quran, he is more fulfilled staying on Dean with his five prayers than Brad Pitt could ever be without any.
03:13:43.840All the movies that he's doing, all the Epstein parties that he's able to go to and all the orgies with P. Diddy does not equate to the fulfillment that the man in prison finds when he prays regularly.
03:13:54.760I'm saying that's, that's the ultimate fulfillment.
03:16:41.560You're adding positions because you have a group cultural soul, the Muslim soul, navigating you like it's puzzle pieces or pawn pieces in war.
03:16:53.080My point is, if we see Ryan going through something mental, if he's like spiraling and he's manic, the win is not going to go and be the, it's not going to solve the problems.
03:17:03.840I'm going to say, like, if he's spiraling and he's drinking and all this stuff and he's, like, something is going on, I don't know how much of it was a performance.
03:17:10.660The win is going to be a temporary Band-Aid for a wound that's always going to be open if he doesn't solve it with God.
03:17:16.220So, ultimately, that's not going to be the solution to the problem.
03:17:18.720Part of him is thinking, I'm not attacking.
03:45:11.240The collective of Christians, in total, not me, not the individual, the collective, is a lot more merciful and forgiving than the collective of Buddhists, Muslims, or anything else.
03:46:42.820You know, actually, the Jews and the Christians that lived under the Ottoman Empire, they were free to travel all over the Ottoman Empire, by the way.
04:01:52.220When he told the people worship upon God Allah, when he told the people do not eat pork, when he told the people do not drink excessively, when he said to the people give charity, this is exactly the teachings of Islam.
04:02:02.220There's no new religions that were brought.
04:02:04.120The Trinity is the new religion that was introduced by the Roman Empire that is not in the Bible or the teachings of Jesus.
04:02:08.780Can you show me the Trinity in the Bible or the teachings of Jesus?
04:38:29.340Yeah, but the thing is, you see, he said science and he made a huge blunder there, which is confusing science, which is basically a tool that we use to study the world.
04:38:41.400And the reason it changes is because not having enough information, enough input regarding the specific thing.
04:38:47.300For example, you increase, you know, you have a number of data and then you need to increase it.
04:38:51.520When you get more data, you realize that your previous conclusion was incorrect.
04:52:12.080You're influencing millions of people who watch you that you are a role model for all that you encourage them to do this thing and you normalize it for them.
04:52:24.020Then how do you determine right or wrong?
04:52:25.120If it's just your opinion of what is right or wrong, then you just tell it.
04:52:28.520What's the problem in telling people to go do things against the law?
04:52:32.040Obviously, we're not encouraging anything against the law.
04:52:33.900But we're saying, what is the wrong then in telling people the most extreme things if there's no right or wrong?
04:52:38.240If it's just your opinion and my opinion, then I can say whatever I want to my viewers and anyone can say whatever they want.
04:52:45.640But this whole discussion is just pretending that you're using that word is a whole big problem.
04:52:49.380But it's okay to, you know, encourage people to gamble and do all of these different things.
04:52:53.000But to say a word for a specific group of people now has become the end of the planet.
04:52:57.300And that's why, you know, if you remember, I was mentioning this in our setting, that in the West, the smallest thing becomes the biggest things and the biggest things become like it's okay.
05:05:28.620Now, they conflate that with the disease they have in their own communities, which is the people who are trying to target little children and use them as sexual objects and then abuse them and move to the next person.
05:05:40.300That does not exist under the Islamic worldview because in Islam, the person has to get married and the permission of the parents needs to be given.
05:05:46.320So, first, when we talk about biological development, that's a very natural thing that is known.
05:05:50.440When the woman reaches the age of puberty, she's able to bear children biologically.
05:05:54.160If they're atheists and they take the biological worldview, then the woman, when she reaches the age of puberty, she's able to bear children.
05:06:00.540So, you come and tell me, her body is able to bear children, but she's not able to bear children according to our society.
05:06:07.120When it comes to the psychological point of view, who determines?
05:06:09.520It is the people who are specialized in the field, the psychologists in the field, the psychiatrists, the psychologists, etc.
05:06:14.420They fit a specific kind of parameter based on the girl, you know, her condition.
05:06:20.300And then the state, the Islamic state, the Sharia state, will set a number based on their kind of recommendation, right?
05:06:27.020The recommendation of the psychologists, etc.
05:06:28.820It can either set a number or it can be a case-by-case scenario.
05:06:31.740But in the end, even if the doctors say it's okay, for example, the marriage will never take place without the parents' permission first.
05:06:39.900The marriage does not go through without the parents' permission.
05:06:43.160Even if a woman reaches 21, 23, 24, it doesn't matter.
05:06:46.540The permission of the father is needed, the walleyi, his permission is needed in the marriage anyways.
05:06:51.240And his advice is needed in the marriage.
05:08:45.000There are hundreds of thousands of cases of what they call child marriages happening in the U.S.A., by the way, in states like California, et cetera.
05:17:05.100No, you know, you remember I told you in the beginning of the talk about, like, how low the bar for intellectualism when it comes to the streaming world.