ManoWhisper
Home
Shows
About
Search
SNEAKO
- May 11, 2023
The Reason Why You Should NEVER Live With Your Girlfriend
Episode Stats
Length
46 minutes
Words per Minute
259.9945
Word Count
11,975
Sentence Count
1,246
Misogynist Sentences
134
Hate Speech Sentences
107
Summary
Summaries generated with
gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ
.
Transcript
Transcript generated with
Whisper
(
turbo
).
Misogyny classifications generated with
MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny
.
Hate speech classifications generated with
facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target
.
00:00:00.000
What is your phone number?
00:00:02.600
I'll give it to you after.
00:00:04.040
It's a French number, though.
00:00:05.800
There's no problem.
00:00:06.880
French Riz.
00:00:08.280
Thank you very much.
00:00:09.080
Yeah, I do fantasize about weird shit.
00:00:11.040
That does not mean that I want to do them.
00:00:13.120
You fantasize about it,
00:00:14.120
but there's interesting fantasizing
00:00:15.080
and actually doing it in real life.
00:00:15.920
Yeah, right?
00:00:16.720
Exactly. You contradicted yourself.
00:00:18.280
I think we just had a prime example.
00:00:19.920
She's saying what she wants, right?
00:00:21.480
But she just gave him the number
00:00:22.760
and he's saying exactly everything
00:00:23.960
she's saying she don't want.
00:00:25.120
Oh, shit.
00:00:25.720
So that's a contradiction.
00:00:26.920
Are you mad?
00:00:27.920
Are you a little mad?
00:00:28.920
Oh, don't play with me, baby.
00:00:30.000
Don't fucking play with me.
00:00:31.040
Are you mad?
00:00:31.640
Don't play with me.
00:00:32.040
It's just a question.
00:00:32.760
I was making an example.
00:00:34.040
Baby, I'm not mad.
00:00:35.200
You're pretty.
00:00:35.880
Thank you, you too.
00:00:37.080
Right, but what I'm saying is
00:00:38.640
you said you like a nice guy.
00:00:41.040
Yeah, maybe he's really nice.
00:00:42.720
Maybe he's nice.
00:00:43.440
Maybe he's just spitting your problems.
00:00:45.040
Don't play with me, though.
00:00:46.480
No, but I'm not.
00:00:47.280
But you're coming super aggressive.
00:00:48.960
Check your men.
00:00:49.920
Don't fucking check me.
00:00:51.120
Check your men.
00:00:52.160
So speaking of hypocrisy,
00:00:53.520
as you can see right here,
00:00:54.320
that the one-sided arrangement
00:00:55.200
does not work very clearly.
00:00:56.560
You can see the problems
00:00:57.600
that result from this.
00:00:58.600
Stop. Both of you.
00:00:59.760
Stop. Okay, y'all.
00:01:00.960
What the fuck is going on, man?
00:01:06.000
No, see, go.
00:01:08.000
I'm not telling you what, man, nigga.
00:01:09.440
What the fuck is going on?
00:01:13.280
So, uh, Destiny, you had a question,
00:01:14.800
so I'll turn it to you, my friend.
00:01:15.760
Go ahead.
00:01:16.400
I have a question for the ladies on the panel.
00:01:17.840
Please. Right.
00:01:19.040
Would you guys date a man
00:01:20.720
that said he would never live with you,
00:01:22.240
but instead wanted to live
00:01:23.040
with all of his boys instead?
00:01:24.320
Damn, long term, but he tells you,
00:01:26.720
I'm never going to live with you.
00:01:28.320
You can have sleepovers and stuff,
00:01:29.520
but we're never going to live together.
00:01:30.560
But he's like a cool guy otherwise.
00:01:31.600
I'm just curious.
00:01:32.560
I have a follow-up question
00:01:33.120
after we go answer this one.
00:01:34.000
Okay.
00:01:34.400
To combat this one.
00:01:35.200
That's fine. That's fine.
00:01:36.000
Uh, we'll start here with Miss Paris.
00:01:38.000
Uh, would you live with a guy who...
00:01:40.240
Or not live with a guy, date a guy.
00:01:41.600
Oh yeah. Okay.
00:01:42.400
Excuse me.
00:01:43.040
Would you date a guy seriously
00:01:44.400
that said he doesn't want to live with you?
00:01:45.680
Uh, if I'm dating you seriously
00:01:47.600
and you don't want to live with me,
00:01:49.120
I think that it's a little weird
00:01:50.560
because it's sketchy.
00:01:51.760
I mean, that you kind of have something to hide.
00:01:54.400
So no.
00:01:54.960
Okay.
00:01:55.760
Okay.
00:01:56.240
Yeah.
00:01:56.640
It's fair.
00:01:57.680
Okay.
00:01:58.400
Yes.
00:02:01.680
Okay. You would agree with that.
00:02:02.560
Okay.
00:02:02.880
W.
00:02:03.760
All right.
00:02:04.560
What about you?
00:02:05.520
Um, personally,
00:02:06.880
I don't think I would actually live with anyone
00:02:09.440
until I'm engaged.
00:02:11.280
So that would be like a deal breaker.
00:02:13.040
If he was like, I'll never live with you.
00:02:15.680
Yeah.
00:02:15.840
I'm not going for that.
00:02:16.560
No, but while you're dating, that's fine.
00:02:18.240
Well, but we're saying forever.
00:02:19.360
So that's cool.
00:02:19.840
No, no.
00:02:20.560
He said forever.
00:02:21.360
He said, I will never live with you.
00:02:23.200
Like, ever.
00:02:24.480
She listens.
00:02:25.520
Okay.
00:02:26.240
You can learn something.
00:02:26.960
I'm not about to graduate law school for nothing.
00:02:30.400
No.
00:02:30.720
All right.
00:02:30.960
So that's a no from you.
00:02:31.760
What about you?
00:02:32.160
That is scary.
00:02:32.720
Yeah, I agree.
00:02:33.680
And, uh, logistically,
00:02:35.280
especially long term for like the family unit.
00:02:37.520
That's probably not going to be the best thing.
00:02:45.920
It depends on like the definition of like dating,
00:02:48.880
but like me personally,
00:02:50.080
I had a bad experience living with the guy that I was dating.
00:02:53.760
So I personally would not do it again.
00:02:56.000
I rather just like,
00:02:57.600
so you'd be okay with that.
00:02:58.880
Of course.
00:02:59.440
Living in different locations.
00:03:00.880
All right.
00:03:01.200
What about you?
00:03:01.600
I think I would be okay with it if it was like his own house,
00:03:07.280
but like the fact that it's with like other guys,
00:03:10.160
I don't know about that.
00:03:11.040
Is that required in the, in the, uh,
00:03:12.640
Well, because you would be living with other high value men,
00:03:14.560
of course.
00:03:14.960
So, you know, you'd be networked.
00:03:16.240
Of course.
00:03:16.640
Yeah, of course.
00:03:17.760
This guy.
00:03:18.320
Okay.
00:03:18.880
So you, you would say, you would say yes,
00:03:20.400
but if he's little, other guys, no.
00:03:21.760
Yeah.
00:03:22.240
Okay.
00:03:23.920
Would you think it's a little sus or?
00:03:25.200
Yeah.
00:03:26.240
Unless he had like, you know,
00:03:27.360
he was running like a YouTube channel in there and we like work together or something.
00:03:30.560
Oh, interesting.
00:03:31.120
Oh, work.
00:03:31.440
Okay.
00:03:31.760
Content house.
00:03:32.400
Oh, okay.
00:03:33.280
Okay.
00:03:33.600
So that's a yes then.
00:03:34.480
That's a yes.
00:03:34.960
What about you?
00:03:36.000
Um, dating?
00:03:36.800
Yes.
00:03:37.200
Married?
00:03:37.600
No.
00:03:37.840
Because when I want to have kids, I want a two parent household.
00:03:40.800
Okay.
00:03:41.120
Mm-hmm.
00:03:42.480
All right.
00:03:42.800
Okay.
00:03:43.200
I wouldn't do that.
00:03:44.480
No?
00:03:44.960
No.
00:03:45.280
What about when you're on your period?
00:03:47.920
Do I have to be in the house with you?
00:03:51.680
Especially not.
00:03:52.480
I think.
00:03:54.000
I could take a week off in the apartment.
00:03:55.680
Maybe.
00:03:58.400
All right.
00:03:59.200
That's a compromise.
00:04:01.360
It's a religious thing for him.
00:04:02.480
He can't be near women that are menstruating.
00:04:03.920
Absolutely not.
00:04:04.480
Yeah.
00:04:04.720
Yeah.
00:04:05.280
Really?
00:04:05.680
At all?
00:04:06.720
Stop for Allah.
00:04:07.120
Stop for Allah.
00:04:07.520
You can't be around your wives while they're bleeding.
00:04:10.400
Haram!
00:04:10.960
You gotta follow that Quran all the way, bro.
00:04:12.880
Oh, he doesn't eat pork or anything.
00:04:14.240
I'm watching you.
00:04:14.800
Yeah.
00:04:15.120
Watch.
00:04:15.520
All right.
00:04:17.600
Angie.
00:04:18.000
I think it's better that way.
00:04:19.040
Yeah.
00:04:19.360
I think that's completely fine.
00:04:21.200
He can leave with whoever he wants.
00:04:22.640
That'll be my right.
00:04:23.680
I mean, if he doesn't.
00:04:25.680
You know, Chris, you said it directly, bro.
00:04:30.000
Man.
00:04:30.400
It's too obvious now.
00:04:31.440
You can say to Chris, man.
00:04:32.480
What?
00:04:32.880
That was obvious.
00:04:33.680
Continue on, Angie.
00:04:34.960
Ignore him.
00:04:35.360
You guys can't.
00:04:35.920
You should grow up, man.
00:04:37.360
Yeah.
00:04:37.520
Seriously.
00:04:37.840
You should grow up.
00:04:38.560
Go ahead.
00:04:39.600
Yeah.
00:04:39.920
Like, it's better if he doesn't leave with me.
00:04:42.400
You know?
00:04:42.720
Like, it's just better for their relationship.
00:04:44.800
So.
00:04:45.040
Okay.
00:04:45.280
Now you got a follow up question, Nico?
00:04:47.280
Yes.
00:04:47.680
Go ahead.
00:04:48.080
Which way do you want to start?
00:04:49.040
Oh, we can start with Angie and then work our way.
00:04:50.400
Angie, could you take a man seriously that sucks dick?
00:04:54.320
Whoa.
00:04:55.920
Whoa.
00:04:56.720
Whoa.
00:04:57.040
Whoa.
00:04:58.000
Don't be sneaker.
00:04:58.480
Don't be sneaker.
00:04:59.600
Don't be sneaker.
00:05:00.000
Do you have a question?
00:05:00.400
Could you?
00:05:00.800
Okay.
00:05:00.960
Let's simplify the question.
00:05:01.920
Could you date a man?
00:05:02.800
Seriously?
00:05:03.920
That's bisexual.
00:05:04.800
Yeah.
00:05:05.440
Absolutely not.
00:05:07.200
Okay.
00:05:07.840
I don't.
00:05:09.200
I don't like that.
00:05:10.640
Okay.
00:05:11.120
No, Maricoon.
00:05:11.840
I just feel like if that's what you do, then I'll never satisfy you as a woman.
00:05:15.680
You're going to always want a man.
00:05:17.120
That's what I think.
00:05:18.240
Right.
00:05:18.560
Maybe you could tag team it, you know?
00:05:20.400
Mm-hmm.
00:05:21.520
I don't think so.
00:05:22.240
Okay.
00:05:22.480
Oh, you're good.
00:05:23.120
Is that what you think about tag teaming a sneaker?
00:05:24.480
Go call me.
00:05:25.200
Oh, you're good.
00:05:25.920
A bisexual man, it's not completely masculine.
00:05:29.760
That's right.
00:05:30.160
Yeah.
00:05:30.800
That's true.
00:05:31.760
Yep.
00:05:31.840
What about you?
00:05:32.640
That's true.
00:05:33.920
Um, probably not just because I feel like I would be scared to catch something.
00:05:39.120
I don't know.
00:05:40.240
That's like having sex with a flu.
00:05:42.320
A flu?
00:05:43.280
Like, I don't know.
00:05:44.720
An STD?
00:05:45.200
Yeah, an STD.
00:05:45.920
I would be scared.
00:05:46.800
What about you?
00:05:47.600
Yeah, a hundred percent.
00:05:48.800
No.
00:05:49.600
That's weird.
00:05:50.320
Yeah.
00:05:50.720
Okay.
00:05:51.120
Okay.
00:05:51.920
Nerd.
00:05:52.320
Nerd.
00:05:52.880
Nerd.
00:05:53.360
Nerd.
00:05:53.840
Nerd.
00:05:54.320
What about you?
00:05:56.800
Nerd.
00:05:57.200
Nerd.
00:05:58.240
No.
00:05:58.640
No.
00:05:59.120
Zina.
00:06:00.640
Haram.
00:06:01.280
Okay.
00:06:02.000
Haram.
00:06:02.720
No, I wouldn't date.
00:06:04.160
Well, so there wasn't one that was okay with that, but the living with high value man thing,
00:06:08.400
which you were kind of insinuating is gay, that men want to live with other men.
00:06:11.360
The panel was pretty 50-50 on that.
00:06:13.200
Some of them were okay with the compromise.
00:06:14.560
It's work.
00:06:15.040
They understand.
00:06:15.680
Depends on what level of the relationship.
00:06:17.200
But when it comes to bisexuality, not one woman here is okay with that.
00:06:22.000
What do you think?
00:06:22.640
No person in a serious relationship would be okay with never living with their partner.
00:06:25.760
That's a joke.
00:06:27.040
Like, even the people that sat on the panel, they'd be okay with it.
00:06:28.960
They wouldn't be okay with in a serious long-term relationship.
00:06:30.400
They just said they would be.
00:06:31.440
That's fine that they say it, but don't you guys also say women lie all the time?
00:06:34.080
You think they lie?
00:06:34.400
Nobody who's like 32 who is talking to their friends like, oh, you're dating this guy?
00:06:37.920
Yeah, we dated for like eight years.
00:06:38.880
I'm really excited because tomorrow I'm going to go have a sleepover at his house.
00:06:41.920
Nobody would be okay with that.
00:06:43.040
That's a joke.
00:06:43.600
But definitely, that would mean they would all lie on every answer.
00:06:46.960
So this means it's not good a basement of judgment.
00:06:49.520
That's true.
00:06:50.080
You never know.
00:06:51.040
I do want to say this so that it makes more sense.
00:06:53.120
Because just so you guys know, he asked that question to make fun of us.
00:06:56.080
Because we were saying earlier that you shouldn't live with your girl.
00:06:58.160
When I said that, what I mean is in like, you should get a house.
00:07:01.920
Like, let's say y'all have a family.
00:07:02.880
Y'all have kids or whatever.
00:07:04.000
You buy a house for her and the kids and you're there.
00:07:06.880
But you should not be spending all your time there is my point.
00:07:09.920
You should have another address that you can go to at times to create, you know, some space.
00:07:14.720
I think space makes things very important and it makes the heart grow fonder, space.
00:07:19.280
So I should have qualified.
00:07:20.720
We were actually saying the two house strategy.
00:07:22.560
That's who you're going for.
00:07:23.440
Yes.
00:07:23.840
Yeah, because you didn't ask for more detail.
00:07:25.440
But that would be the strategy in that situation where like, if you have a family and it's serious.
00:07:29.520
Yes, you have a house for her and the children.
00:07:31.200
You come in periodically and do what you need to do.
00:07:33.280
You obviously support the family because I think the man should be the breadwinner.
00:07:35.760
But you have another address that you actually stay at.
00:07:38.640
Because I think living with a woman does make you soft as a man.
00:07:41.280
But when you're going to get to your other address, you're going to like, it's sketchy.
00:07:45.120
It's weird.
00:07:45.600
Yeah, I mean, well, there's a couple of reasons for for that.
00:07:49.760
And I'd be happy to go into it if you guys want me to.
00:07:51.520
But before I do, it was did you guys have anything on that situation with the whole penis licking and
00:07:58.560
living somewhere else?
00:08:00.000
Any I mean, I just it's interesting because you guys talk about like getting to know a woman or whatever.
00:08:04.400
Yeah, but I feel like for me personally, I don't consider relationships real until people are living with each other
00:08:08.240
because you don't know shit about your partner until you have to spend every day with them to
00:08:11.440
like really figure out what's going on.
00:08:12.800
Of course.
00:08:13.200
And when you can choose when to see your partner on only your best days, it's hard to know what
00:08:17.040
the person's really like.
00:08:18.000
I agree.
00:08:18.480
Yeah, I agree.
00:08:19.200
Yeah.
00:08:19.600
But I can also argue if we live in separate houses, I'm going to see her all the time anyway.
00:08:23.840
Why would you see her all the time?
00:08:24.640
You live in separate houses.
00:08:25.520
Yeah, but we'll meet up for dinner for, you know, you can live right down the street next door.
00:08:31.760
But that's like essentially just picking and choosing when you want to like be around.
00:08:36.320
And I don't think that is like what a long term relationship is supposed to be about.
00:08:42.080
That's more casual dating.
00:08:45.040
And I would think that casual dating most of the time is happier.
00:08:47.680
A lot of marriages end up sexless.
00:08:48.960
A lot of marriages end up miserable.
00:08:50.560
If you could pick and choose when to spend time, that means that the time you spend together is
00:08:53.600
going to be ultra quality because you want to show you want to show your best self.
00:08:56.320
You want to be meaningful early on in a relationship.
00:08:58.320
People always dress up nice.
00:08:59.440
They put a nice cologne.
00:09:00.480
You should have the best talking points.
00:09:01.840
You try to entertain each other.
00:09:02.960
You're trying to make each other as happy as possible because you want to impress them.
00:09:05.680
Yeah, it's a honeymoon phase.
00:09:06.960
It's smoke and mirrors.
00:09:08.000
Why?
00:09:08.320
Why would you give up the honeymoon phase?
00:09:09.760
You should try to keep upkeep that as much as possible.
00:09:11.680
If you can upkeep that 30 years down the line, that's going to be a happier marriage
00:09:14.800
than two people who are just annoyed by their presence.
00:09:16.800
Is that possible?
00:09:17.920
I think you necessarily have to be annoyed with the person.
00:09:22.000
I was in a relationship for eight years and six years I was living with my men.
00:09:27.280
And sometimes, yeah, we were like all of each other faces and it was annoying.
00:09:32.480
But most of the times we get to know each other, like our default, like, I don't know.
00:09:37.840
I feel like it's more real when you can see the bad, the ugly, and then you appreciate more
00:09:43.920
the beautiful.
00:09:44.400
I think when you do the casual dating, you're not meeting the person.
00:09:47.680
You're only seeing the representative, right?
00:09:49.600
When you do casual dating, you're seeing the person at the...
00:09:51.440
You're not even really seeing them.
00:09:52.560
They could be putting on a front.
00:09:53.440
That's true.
00:09:53.680
But when you live with somebody, like you said, like outside of all the flashy cologne and the
00:09:56.800
dresses and everything, you get to see the person really is.
00:09:58.880
And if you want to fall in love with somebody, I think you need that part more than just like
00:10:01.920
You are living with her for a period of time.
00:10:03.040
It's just that it's segmented.
00:10:04.080
It's like, okay, three days I spent with her.
00:10:06.160
Boom.
00:10:06.400
Now I'm going to go home and have my space.
00:10:07.840
You are living with her and seeing that side, it might take you, you know, you would have
00:10:10.400
been able to find maybe certain things in, uh, you know, two months that you would have
00:10:13.520
taken you maybe seven or eight months living together every single day.
00:10:16.080
But you still find these traits out and still get to know the person.
00:10:18.400
But the main reason why I say guys need to live in a separate location isn't
00:10:22.080
necessarily for the woman.
00:10:23.600
It's for the guy.
00:10:24.640
Yeah, but why not find a woman that like synergizes with you, that can help you, that can build
00:10:27.840
you up, but you guys work as a partner, as a team, and she's going to drag you down.
00:10:30.320
As a team on what?
00:10:31.360
What are we going to, hold on, what are we going to work on together?
00:10:33.680
Me and my mom?
00:10:34.400
Literally anything.
00:10:35.040
You guys can do health stuff together.
00:10:36.480
You can do meals together.
00:10:37.360
You can go out and have fun together.
00:10:38.480
You can watch TV shows together.
00:10:39.520
You can work on projects together.
00:10:40.240
So we can go out together.
00:10:41.200
I don't want to cook with her.
00:10:42.240
Why would you want to do that?
00:10:43.280
Because it's fun as fuck.
00:10:44.240
What do you mean?
00:10:44.560
That's a super fun activity.
00:10:45.280
Cooking is fun?
00:10:46.080
With a significant other, anything can be fun.
00:10:47.440
Yeah.
00:10:47.840
Everything becomes fun when you're with somebody that you love, so like watching a boring
00:10:53.840
ass movie can be super like entertaining with someone that you love.
00:10:57.200
Okay.
00:10:57.440
Okay.
00:10:57.680
Look, look, look, ladies.
00:10:58.480
So the re, cause you guys keep looking at it from a female perspective, right?
00:11:01.920
Of like, Hey, I get to be on my man, et cetera.
00:11:03.920
And you guys are looking at it from there.
00:11:04.960
But the reason why I'm saying to, and I'm advising men, by the way, why they shouldn't
00:11:08.880
do it is because men typically become lazy when they live with their girl.
00:11:12.560
And what I mean by that is they don't have the same sharpness that they used to have
00:11:15.920
when they attracted the girl in the first place.
00:11:17.600
They're not as diligent about the gym.
00:11:18.720
A lot of the times they start to get lazy.
00:11:20.720
They don't work as hard as they used to, et cetera, because women are very comforting,
00:11:23.840
right?
00:11:24.400
And on top of that, let's be a thousand women are inherently lazy in general.
00:11:27.520
So they're going to go ahead and encourage you to be lazy.
00:11:29.840
Oh no.
00:11:30.320
Stay inside and hang out with me.
00:11:31.760
Let's have some ice cream.
00:11:33.040
Let's watch a movie, blah, blah, blah.
00:11:34.480
So I don't want guys right to live in an environment that's too comfortable, right?
00:11:38.800
AKA their girl and get soft.
00:11:41.040
I want guys to stay sharp, to be the man that she fell in love with in the first place.
00:11:44.800
And you're going to maintain that edge and that sharpness by not living with her.
00:11:47.920
Right.
00:11:48.080
Not only would I disagree, I would actually use, I'd use a stat earlier, actually,
00:11:51.040
that I think actually contradicts that.
00:11:52.320
I think in some ways women can keep men sharper.
00:11:54.160
One of the things you brought up that was only one of the points that was true about men doing
00:11:57.440
worse after divorce is that when men get married through all facets of life,
00:12:01.760
they tend to commit less crime.
00:12:02.960
And as soon as a man gets divorced, the likelihood for him to do more crime starts to increase
00:12:06.800
again because they don't have anybody like a stable environment holding them down.
00:12:08.800
So you should have good friends around you.
00:12:10.320
You should have iron sharpens iron.
00:12:11.680
Iron does not get sharpened by a feather and women are feathers.
00:12:13.600
The relationship, now I can't speak for you because I don't know if you do gay relationships.
00:12:16.480
I don't, so I don't have experience with that.
00:12:17.440
You said you do.
00:12:18.000
The way I don't, I don't date men.
00:12:19.280
Now, if you're dating a man, it might be like that, but the relationship that you have,
00:12:23.280
the relationship that you have with a woman when you're dating a woman is
00:12:25.280
different than the relationship you have with your bros when you're with bros.
00:12:27.680
Your woman should be arguably more invested with you and in you than any of your guy friends are
00:12:31.920
because they don't have to live with you.
00:12:32.560
They're not building a life with you.
00:12:33.520
They're just being a friend to you.
00:12:34.560
You can be friends with guys that do crazy fucking shit.
00:12:37.360
Your friend can become an alcoholic.
00:12:38.640
You can ruin his fucking life because you're just friends.
00:12:40.000
Don't be friends with them.
00:12:40.560
Yeah, that's fine.
00:12:40.960
But I'm saying, but with a woman,
00:12:41.840
she's invested in your success as much as you should be invested in your success.
00:12:44.480
She can still be an asset though, just living somewhere else.
00:12:46.880
Yeah.
00:12:47.280
But that doesn't have to be with me.
00:12:48.480
So then why can't she be your best friend?
00:12:50.080
And then once again, adding to that as well, let's say I live with a woman, right?
00:12:53.200
We can see each other all the time.
00:12:55.040
It's going to become boring.
00:12:56.160
If it's time away, then she can miss me and want me more.
00:12:59.120
And it's meaningful.
00:12:59.760
But I agree in this sense.
00:13:02.560
I agree in the sense of like before marriage.
00:13:05.040
Yes, I agree with that.
00:13:06.240
Yeah.
00:13:06.800
Once you're married and you have children and you're building a family dynamic.
00:13:11.120
Do I want my husband going in and out my kids lives because he needs space for three days?
00:13:15.840
No, he's not going anywhere.
00:13:18.240
Living in a separate house.
00:13:19.520
Like, like, I don't agree with that in a marriage.
00:13:22.720
What's the difference if he's working or he's overseas working?
00:13:25.680
Like, he's a high businessman.
00:13:26.800
Like, he's not going to be there all the time.
00:13:27.520
Because he's not overseas working.
00:13:28.560
He's living in a house down the street.
00:13:29.840
He's living in a house down the street.
00:13:31.360
And my dad is a lawyer and he went on business trips and he had to travel a lot.
00:13:35.760
He did not have a separate house down the street from my family home.
00:13:39.520
He was a very present, active dad that still handled business and was a provider and did everything.
00:13:44.480
I mean, he could do the same thing, just not live there.
00:13:46.880
Your dad went away, right?
00:13:47.920
To travel for a couple of days.
00:13:49.200
He wasn't there all the time.
00:13:50.400
Yeah, but he was on business, not, oh, my dad had to leave the house and go down the street for three days because he needed space.
00:13:56.960
Well, once again, the same scenario there, he's not there.
00:13:59.680
However, the context is different.
00:14:01.040
Because he's working to make money to pay for our lives.
00:14:04.400
I'm sure he's working our lives.
00:14:04.960
That's what you tell the kids.
00:14:05.760
You don't tell them he lives in a separate house.
00:14:07.520
Like, he's smart.
00:14:07.920
Why would you lie to your kids about your dad having to leave the house because he just needs three days of space for mom every week?
00:14:13.360
I mean, if your kids are four years old and they hear you upstairs, you know, doing what adults do.
00:14:17.600
Are you going to tell them?
00:14:18.160
Oh, yeah, we were fucking.
00:14:19.120
No, you're going to lie.
00:14:20.160
Oh, mommy and daddy were playing a game.
00:14:23.120
Okay.
00:14:23.440
And then not even to mention, the biggest thing here is nobody would trust a guy not to cheat if that was the rancher as well.
00:14:28.480
Right.
00:14:28.640
Like if your guy's leaving for three or four days at a time and then you come back.
00:14:31.360
It's easy.
00:14:31.680
Like, I, I, I can't see any long term relationship ever working out that way.
00:14:34.800
That's just not in my mind.
00:14:35.840
You're looking at it in a monogamous sense.
00:14:37.120
This is the best way that a man is going to be able to upkeep his masculinity.
00:14:40.160
This is the way that he's iron sharpens iron.
00:14:42.000
And you asked, like, what is the team that you're talking about with a man and a wife?
00:14:45.120
And you said watching TV together, cooking together.
00:14:47.760
You said a bunch of feminine activities.
00:14:49.200
And right now, all the women are agreeing with you, but they also disagreed with being in a relationship with you.
00:14:53.120
They said they wouldn't want to be with the bisexual guy.
00:14:54.800
I'm not trying to date any of the women here.
00:14:56.320
Number one, I don't care about dating.
00:14:57.520
Okay, but they agree with their relationship ideas, but they don't agree with.
00:15:00.400
Number two, the way that you guys describe things is like doing fun things to significant others.
00:15:04.560
Being feminine is like the, again, the gayest shit I've ever heard in my life.
00:15:07.520
Why would spending time with your girlfriend or wife be feminine?
00:15:10.720
You can spend time with, but I want to do things that are actually fun to me.
00:15:13.360
Cooking is not fun to me.
00:15:14.320
Watching TV and watching Netflix with Booby Bear, cuddling.
00:15:16.400
Okay, what are fun things to you?
00:15:17.520
What is fun to you?
00:15:19.360
Maybe we can go skydiving.
00:15:20.400
Maybe we can go camel riding.
00:15:21.760
You can do that with girls.
00:15:24.640
We can do that living in separate homes.
00:15:27.280
Yeah, but why do you while living in the same house too?
00:15:30.160
Why can't your woman be your best friend also?
00:15:32.000
Why can't she encourage you?
00:15:33.120
Women and men are never going to be friends the same way that men are going to be friends.
00:15:35.360
What if she likes guy stuff too though?
00:15:37.040
Like what if she likes video games?
00:15:38.320
I like anime, I like video games.
00:15:39.920
You said you don't want to be a guy that sucks dick and now you want a guy who's gay?
00:15:42.160
Who's video gay?
00:15:42.960
What's gay about playing video games?
00:15:44.160
How do we think of your partner?
00:15:45.200
Yeah, I like all that stuff.
00:15:46.160
You want a game with your husband?
00:15:47.680
Yes, I like games.
00:15:49.120
You want a bisexual guy.
00:15:50.240
No, I don't.
00:15:50.960
So how many of you here, right, know someone that's married?
00:15:54.240
Raise your hand.
00:15:54.800
I'm sorry, what was your question?
00:15:55.840
You know someone that's married, personally?
00:15:57.360
Yes.
00:15:57.920
Are they truly happy?
00:15:59.040
Yeah.
00:16:00.000
No.
00:16:00.240
Yeah.
00:16:00.640
No, no.
00:16:01.280
Be honest, are they really happy living together?
00:16:03.600
No.
00:16:03.760
My parents are literally high school sweethearts and they are actually happy.
00:16:07.600
Okay, anybody else?
00:16:08.720
Yes.
00:16:09.200
My aunt and uncle are also high school sweethearts.
00:16:11.280
They actually are happy.
00:16:12.320
Anybody else?
00:16:12.880
Yeah.
00:16:13.440
Like, I was raised around very healthy marriages.
00:16:16.480
Okay, outside of your family.
00:16:17.680
Anybody else?
00:16:18.720
All of my friends, my parents, I grew up around, same thing.
00:16:22.160
Still married today.
00:16:22.960
Happy as hell.
00:16:23.520
Still married today.
00:16:24.240
Still happy.
00:16:24.720
30 plus years, yes.
00:16:26.240
I would argue that they argue multiple times a month.
00:16:30.400
And ultimately speaking-
00:16:31.280
Conflict is actually healthy.
00:16:32.320
That's part of a relationship.
00:16:34.160
But stepping away and come back to that person is even better because-
00:16:37.760
That's not better.
00:16:38.240
That's the worst thing in the world.
00:16:39.280
It shows you can't even resolve conflict.
00:16:40.320
Not in marriage.
00:16:41.280
Not in marriage.
00:16:41.760
If you had a partner and you're like, listen, we're fighting.
00:16:43.600
I'm leaving for three days and I'll come back.
00:16:44.960
That's like the worst thing you could do.
00:16:46.160
Can I make an ad?
00:16:46.640
There's a difference between like avoidance and blowing off like steam, right?
00:16:49.840
Hold on, hold on.
00:16:50.320
Destiny, can I make an ad hominem?
00:16:52.000
Is it about sucking dick again?
00:16:53.120
No, it's not.
00:16:53.840
But you don't live with your wife all the time.
00:16:55.440
I literally do.
00:16:56.400
No, you don't.
00:16:57.040
We travel sometimes.
00:16:58.000
We live together like 95% of the time.
00:16:59.520
Yeah, we travel every place.
00:17:00.480
Doesn't you have an apartment in Austin?
00:17:02.160
Yeah, that she goes to like, I think she's been there like two weeks of the past year.
00:17:05.200
But I went with her last time.
00:17:06.240
We live together.
00:17:06.880
She just told me that she went to Hawaii with like.
00:17:09.360
Yeah, she was in Hawaii for a week too.
00:17:10.480
And I traveled too.
00:17:11.040
But we live together.
00:17:11.840
We don't have separate houses.
00:17:12.880
Listen, nobody here, like she said with her dad, sometimes people travel.
00:17:15.520
That's fine.
00:17:16.080
But when we're both at home, why would I want to live apart from my wife?
00:17:19.040
I love being with her.
00:17:19.760
I like spending time with her.
00:17:20.320
I like waking up in the morning.
00:17:21.680
I like drinking coffee with her.
00:17:22.480
I like hanging on the bathroom.
00:17:23.120
But you get fed up with her eventually.
00:17:24.240
And then you go your separate ways.
00:17:25.200
No, no, no, no.
00:17:25.760
I don't get fed up with her.
00:17:26.800
There are just things I like to do with other people too.
00:17:28.240
But I'm never like, I'm sick of you.
00:17:29.840
I need to get away from you.
00:17:30.720
But that's kind of what it is.
00:17:32.160
And Fresh's ultimate point.
00:17:33.200
That's not what it is at all.
00:17:34.080
If you spend 100% of your time with your significant other,
00:17:36.400
you're both going to bring each other down.
00:17:38.000
Then you end up relying on each other.
00:17:39.280
You get complacent.
00:17:40.080
You get too comfortable.
00:17:40.720
This is true.
00:17:41.440
100% of the time versus living in a separate house,
00:17:43.600
the two totally different things.
00:17:45.040
You can be together in a house and not be crowding each other all the time.
00:17:49.040
But a lot of times when Mel is at her corner of the house,
00:17:50.560
and I'm at my corner of the house doing emails, doing work,
00:17:52.000
and she's like working on her fucking Instagram and shit, right?
00:17:53.920
There are times when we're working on different things.
00:17:55.040
We're not crowding each other.
00:17:56.080
Like you can do that in the same house as possible.
00:17:57.920
Here's the thing.
00:17:58.800
Yeah.
00:17:59.120
There's three main reasons why I think you need to live a park.
00:18:01.760
Always with the list.
00:18:02.480
It's, yeah, well, you got to be able to outline that.
00:18:04.720
Is this real nice or not?
00:18:05.920
Yeah.
00:18:06.320
So number one, like I said before, it keeps the guy sharp, right?
00:18:09.680
Like he's going to be, he's going to fucking, he's going to stay sharp.
00:18:12.720
Number two, it promotes productivity.
00:18:14.160
And then number three, which is going to be kind of toxic.
00:18:17.280
It keeps the girl guessing.
00:18:18.320
Like here's the thing with women, right?
00:18:19.760
Women, once they get bored with you, that's the beginning of the end.
00:18:23.280
And when she doesn't necessarily know what you're up to all the time,
00:18:25.600
keeps her mind racing.
00:18:26.640
She's like, what's he doing?
00:18:27.440
Blah, blah, blah.
00:18:28.160
And I've always said it.
00:18:28.880
A woman's imagination is your best friend.
00:18:30.800
Being too available for being able to see what you're doing all the time.
00:18:33.520
It makes you less attractive to her because men and women are different.
00:18:36.720
But this also, like women need to feel like they're getting the best
00:18:40.880
man that they can get and they can't have them all the time.
00:18:43.040
It sucks.
00:18:43.600
But that's a necessary component for women to be attracted and aroused by you.
00:18:46.880
So again, I get where you guys are saying like, hey, for the relationship,
00:18:50.320
what the girl wants, blah, blah.
00:18:51.280
But I'm speaking from the male perspective.
00:18:53.120
How you maintain attraction in the relationship is to not always be available.
00:18:56.560
And that's the other biggest thing, too, is when she doesn't know where you're at all the time,
00:18:59.520
it has her mind racing, which is to your benefit.
00:19:01.600
You say that.
00:19:02.640
And I think in some really weird, hyper red pill world, that might be true with some women.
00:19:06.240
But the reality is, listen, you thought you were a fucking federal investigator.
00:19:10.000
A woman that is suspicious is the like most keen, crazy fucking investigator in the world.
00:19:13.680
Of course.
00:19:13.840
She's going to be driving outside your apartment.
00:19:15.280
She's going to have like a second cell phone with a SIM card.
00:19:17.280
Why the fuck would you want a relationship like that?
00:19:19.600
Hold on, hold on.
00:19:20.240
But if she's invested, right, and doing all that, what does that mean?
00:19:22.640
That means your relationship fucking sucks.
00:19:24.400
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:19:25.600
That's the worst relationship ever.
00:19:26.320
That's not at all.
00:19:27.280
When a girl is chasing you, that's what I want.
00:19:30.720
I want the woman to be chasing the guy.
00:19:32.400
That's a psycho, that's a psychopath.
00:19:34.720
Because women, hold on, hold on.
00:19:35.920
When women are chasing your validation, and they're stalking you, and they're making all
00:19:38.640
these investments, that means they, number one, love you.
00:19:41.200
Number two, they care.
00:19:42.080
And number three, they're less likely to do bullshit and go off with another guy because
00:19:45.120
she's too busy chasing your validation.
00:19:46.400
Yeah, but then you're going to be like DJ acting in the lobby with a girl,
00:19:49.040
like you're hitting another girl, like you're talking to somebody.
00:19:51.520
My point is, I want the man to maintain the leverage where the girl likes him more than
00:19:55.440
she likes, more than he likes her.
00:19:56.720
And the reason for that, even though girls might hear, might say that's toxic, is because
00:20:00.320
women have so many options nowadays.
00:20:01.760
The only way that you can circumvent female hypergamy and them having all these options
00:20:05.040
is you need, she needs to like you more than you like her.
00:20:07.680
That's what it is.
00:20:08.320
That's, that's when women are the happiest, when they feel like they got the prize.
00:20:10.880
Yeah.
00:20:11.280
And for you to feel that way, you have to exemplify traits and be not living with her
00:20:14.880
allows you to have that air of mystery.
00:20:16.400
I don't think most of them would like it, but yeah,
00:20:17.760
I think that it's called playing games.
00:20:20.480
Yeah.
00:20:20.880
Like you want her to be crazy about you.
00:20:23.440
Why don't you want her to?
00:20:24.720
Okay.
00:20:24.960
So men wants women to bring them peace, right?
00:20:27.520
So why can't you bring?
00:20:28.400
Okay.
00:20:28.640
So you said playing games, right?
00:20:29.680
Yeah.
00:20:30.240
Here's the thing that sucks.
00:20:32.720
See, I wish we could be honest with women.
00:20:34.720
But the thing with women is that you guys are attracted to toxic things.
00:20:37.760
No.
00:20:38.560
Oh, really?
00:20:40.880
What's the highest selling book for females?
00:20:42.880
For females.
00:20:43.520
I'm a woman.
00:20:44.240
Fifty Shades of Grey.
00:20:45.760
Yeah.
00:20:46.320
You are a female.
00:20:47.040
But it's a fantasy.
00:20:47.680
Everybody has fantasy.
00:20:48.800
That does not have a way.
00:20:50.880
No, no, no, hold on, hold on.
00:20:52.000
Why is Fifty Shades of Grey the most popular female book?
00:20:54.560
Because girls love to be dominated.
00:20:56.960
Oh, okay.
00:20:58.240
No, hold on, hold on.
00:20:58.960
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:20:59.600
We forgot some other things.
00:21:00.160
No, but it's only sexual.
00:21:01.040
It's not sexual in a relationship.
00:21:04.160
It's two different things.
00:21:05.040
Yeah, but that's how you maintain sexual attraction in the relationship is you have to have the things
00:21:08.800
that Christian Grey has.
00:21:10.000
Dominant, assertive, successful.
00:21:12.160
He's the one running the relationship.
00:21:13.440
She likes him more than he likes her.
00:21:14.560
Women find these things attractive, right?
00:21:16.800
Right.
00:21:17.040
Universally.
00:21:17.520
Yeah, okay.
00:21:18.160
Maybe some women are not at all.
00:21:19.520
I get it that you guys might say, I don't like this.
00:21:20.160
It's toxic or blah, blah, blah.
00:21:21.760
But the reality is you're aroused and attracted to it.
00:21:24.000
And that's what I'm telling guys to be.
00:21:25.440
Because being a nice guy, you know, being with your girl all the time, always being available,
00:21:29.600
it's not attractive.
00:21:30.320
Okay.
00:21:30.480
Okay.
00:21:30.880
Can I tell you something?
00:21:32.480
Yeah, sure.
00:21:32.800
Okay.
00:21:33.040
So, for example, I like boring, nice guy.
00:21:37.040
I don't like...
00:21:39.360
I do.
00:21:39.840
I don't like bad guys.
00:21:40.960
I don't like...
00:21:41.920
You were in a relationship for eight years living with them.
00:21:43.760
Eight years.
00:21:43.840
What happened?
00:21:44.240
Yeah.
00:21:44.560
Oh my God.
00:21:45.600
Do you want me to tell you why we broke up?
00:21:47.920
It's pretty personal, but it was pretty much my fault.
00:21:52.000
I was pretty...
00:21:53.200
I had a...
00:21:54.560
I was pretty toxic at some point.
00:21:56.160
So you had a nice guy and you didn't like it.
00:21:57.600
No, that's not what happened.
00:21:59.520
What, you cheated?
00:22:00.160
So why are we toxic?
00:22:00.800
No, I didn't cheat.
00:22:01.600
He was nice.
00:22:02.080
So why are you toxic?
00:22:02.960
Okay, so not to give out all the story, but...
00:22:06.960
We...
00:22:08.160
No, but...
00:22:10.000
I had a phase in my life when I was a little bit toxic.
00:22:13.680
She belongs to the streets.
00:22:14.800
Don't say that.
00:22:16.720
Wait, it's funny.
00:22:17.600
You just said that you don't want toxic, that you want something calm.
00:22:20.000
I was with him.
00:22:20.640
You had a calm relationship and you started being toxic.
00:22:22.640
There's more to a relationship than just whether or not they're calm.
00:22:25.040
I was with him for eight years, so it was a roller coaster.
00:22:29.840
You know, it's not always perfect, but I was with him for eight years.
00:22:33.760
I loved him for eight years.
00:22:35.360
What did you do that was toxic?
00:22:36.560
What did I do that was toxic?
00:22:38.560
I don't want to go into that.
00:22:40.000
Okay, but basically women like drama.
00:22:42.160
Women really like drama.
00:22:43.920
Women need to be emotionally involved.
00:22:46.000
They need to be invested like they're watching a drama movie.
00:22:48.800
Yeah, but this is how you approach high school relationships and how you approach healthy,
00:22:52.720
long-term relationships.
00:22:53.440
She's a short-ass woman.
00:22:54.240
What happened?
00:22:54.640
Yeah, she was probably the longest relationship with this entire table.
00:22:58.880
Like...
00:22:59.280
It was deep.
00:22:59.920
It was a really deep stuff, family stuff.
00:23:02.720
It was like a big deal.
00:23:03.680
So it was...
00:23:04.560
I'm not going to explain and go into detail, but it was a valid reason.
00:23:08.960
But it was not like I was looking for drama.
00:23:10.800
It was like...
00:23:11.280
You said you were toxic.
00:23:13.280
Yeah, yeah, but sometimes stuff happened, you know?
00:23:15.920
So...
00:23:16.480
Well, I don't think that would have happened if he was living in a different place and
00:23:18.800
you weren't getting his attention all the time.
00:23:20.160
You probably would not have acted so toxic.
00:23:21.760
You probably started acting toxic because you got bored.
00:23:24.320
You got bored.
00:23:24.880
You needed some emotional involvement.
00:23:27.760
No, that's not true.
00:23:28.880
I started acting toxic because of my trauma, some stuff that happened.
00:23:32.240
Sometimes I do some stuff.
00:23:34.000
Emotional damage.
00:23:36.160
Sometimes I do some stuff, but everybody has their trauma.
00:23:41.200
Everybody reacts.
00:23:42.480
Everybody gets triggered and like...
00:23:44.640
So let me get it straight.
00:23:45.520
You had a nice guy that was there for you, cared for you.
00:23:47.840
Yeah.
00:23:48.160
And all of a sudden...
00:23:48.800
I was living with him.
00:23:49.680
I loved him.
00:23:50.720
He loved me.
00:23:52.080
Yeah, all of a sudden...
00:23:53.840
But it was...
00:23:54.480
No, but it was eight years.
00:23:56.640
You cannot say that.
00:23:57.760
Eight years of a good relationship.
00:23:59.120
Eight years of a nice guy.
00:24:00.000
Living together.
00:24:00.880
Randomly this traumatized feelings, this trauma came out of nowhere.
00:24:04.160
You got triggered.
00:24:04.880
Randomly.
00:24:05.280
Nothing that he did.
00:24:06.480
Nothing.
00:24:06.960
And then you ruined the relationship.
00:24:08.320
Okay, so some stuff that he was doing was triggering me into some...
00:24:11.680
What?
00:24:11.920
He got caught too hard?
00:24:12.880
I thought he was peaceful.
00:24:15.360
I don't want to go into detail because I respect that.
00:24:18.560
That's fine.
00:24:18.960
You don't have to go into detail.
00:24:19.920
My point is this.
00:24:20.720
Nice guys...
00:24:21.440
There's a reason why they say nice guys finish last.
00:24:23.680
Not always being available makes you more attractive.
00:24:26.080
That's just...
00:24:26.560
That's not true.
00:24:27.280
I'm with a nice guy right now, and I've literally left every toxic guy because they were toxic.
00:24:32.160
I come from a family that isn't the healthiest, so I want something that's healthy.
00:24:36.480
Okay, look.
00:24:36.960
You do realize that your own personal experiences don't necessarily reflect the realities of the world?
00:24:41.120
How can you say that?
00:24:43.600
We can't correlate it to the reality of the world.
00:24:45.920
Just because you're saying you like nice guys doesn't mean that a majority of women like nice guys.
00:24:49.200
So then I'm different.
00:24:50.000
Okay.
00:24:50.400
So then that means women can be different.
00:24:51.600
Congratulations.
00:24:51.680
You might be an exception to the rule, but a lot of women don't like nice guys and punish nice guys.
00:24:55.600
Okay, so who likes nice guys at the table?
00:24:57.600
Okay, just asking who likes nice guys at the table?
00:24:59.600
Raise your hand.
00:25:00.560
None of you guys said you wanted a guy who sucks dick.
00:25:02.160
My boyfriend's a nice guy.
00:25:03.040
That doesn't mean it's the same thing.
00:25:05.760
That's the furthest nice guy pill.
00:25:08.080
I have a question.
00:25:09.040
I like nice guys.
00:25:09.360
There's a reason why nice guys finish last has stood the test of time,
00:25:12.160
and it's a saying because women punish men that pedestalize them.
00:25:14.960
That's the point.
00:25:15.600
Just because you don't punish your guy for pedestalizing you doesn't mean that a majority of women aren't.
00:25:19.440
Okay, that's fair.
00:25:19.920
Nice guys finish last is a saying that simps use to try to justify why they don't have a woman.
00:25:24.240
You could be a nice guy.
00:25:25.040
No, they're not.
00:25:26.720
They're losers usually.
00:25:27.840
Yeah.
00:25:28.080
And they're people that are nice.
00:25:29.120
No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:25:30.240
There's nothing nice about being a clingy, desperate loser.
00:25:33.120
I agree.
00:25:33.840
They're nice guys to women.
00:25:35.200
No, no, no, they're not nice.
00:25:36.160
Women don't like that.
00:25:36.720
They're actually very annoying.
00:25:37.760
They're super annoying.
00:25:38.640
Nobody likes that.
00:25:39.440
I definitely agree.
00:25:40.320
So they're nice guys for a reason.
00:25:41.680
They want to smash without saying it directly.
00:25:43.920
That's why they're nice.
00:25:44.800
Which is because they're a simps.
00:25:46.160
So they're being fake nice.
00:25:47.680
Yes, yes.
00:25:48.640
But actual nice guys do pretty well.
00:25:50.560
Kind of is.
00:25:50.960
Because most people like being respected.
00:25:52.560
I agree.
00:25:53.840
But that's what the phrase is about though.
00:25:55.040
That is what the phrase is about.
00:25:55.920
When people say, anytime you hear a guy be like, nice guys, finish last.
00:25:58.800
It's usually some loser that's creepy, clingy, and has nothing going on for them.
00:26:02.720
Listen, bro.
00:26:03.200
I'm a nice guy.
00:26:04.480
But I have an edge to me, which means to be not as nice.
00:26:06.880
Sure.
00:26:07.280
You're saying simps are nice guys.
00:26:09.920
Right?
00:26:10.160
I'm saying that nice guys finish last is not necessarily true.
00:26:12.800
Yeah.
00:26:13.200
People like people that, when people say, here's a saying that people say, women like assholes.
00:26:16.640
No, they don't.
00:26:17.200
They like guys that can be confident and aggressive, but it doesn't even have to be a dick.
00:26:20.560
Right?
00:26:20.880
Like I can tell like an edgy joke to a woman where I joke about like a dress or something.
00:26:24.480
That's going to hit a lot differently calling one fat and old.
00:26:26.720
Right?
00:26:27.200
Yeah.
00:26:27.280
One of those is like aggressive and confident and edgy.
00:26:29.280
And it was just fucking me.
00:26:30.160
Nobody wants to be an actual asshole.
00:26:31.680
That's not like a fun experience.
00:26:32.880
You just want to be something that's confident has an edge to them.
00:26:34.800
Yeah.
00:26:35.120
You have a better, you have a better chance being a not being a dick than being a nice
00:26:39.200
guy is the point.
00:26:39.680
If we have to go off two extremes, the point is this, this is the bottom line.
00:26:42.400
Don't pedestalize women.
00:26:43.520
Sure.
00:26:43.840
I agree with that.
00:26:44.640
But I don't think literally your wife is pedestalized.
00:26:46.480
Can I just say real quick, spending all your time with your chick is pedestalizing.
00:26:50.880
Can I just say one, one thing I like.
00:26:53.920
Okay.
00:26:54.320
So I get what you guys are saying.
00:26:55.520
Definitely makes sense.
00:26:56.640
Like when you separate with someone, when you're in the heat of an argument and that
00:26:59.760
can diffuse things and it can also cause you to not pedestalize your woman.
00:27:03.440
But should we really be doing that and making these ridiculous, you know, uh, rules like
00:27:07.920
we need to live separately versus just learning how to personally develop ourselves to have
00:27:11.440
these conversations in our relationships and actually work through these hardships and difficult
00:27:15.520
times versus needing to literally vacate and go to a whole separate place just to diffuse
00:27:21.040
the tension or not.
00:27:22.080
Like, isn't this something that we can learn intrinsically just one-on-one in relationships?
00:27:26.720
A lot of those conversations are just for the women.
00:27:29.120
It's for women to talk it out because she's feeling emotional so that you can bring the
00:27:32.240
man down to an emotional level.
00:27:33.680
That's going to make me more beta.
00:27:36.480
It's going to make me, my energy is going to be lower.
00:27:39.120
I'm going to be at your level.
00:27:40.240
You're going to cry.
00:27:40.960
I'm going to have to talk it out.
00:27:41.920
We're going to watch a thing.
00:27:42.640
We're going to cuddle and that's, I'm not going to be at my perfect self.
00:27:48.080
I'm going to be gay.
00:27:48.720
I don't want to be gay.
00:27:50.800
I'd rather be at my, I'm not being able to talk to women, not being able to live with
00:27:54.320
women like this is what you're talking about.
00:27:57.120
You're describing gay.
00:27:58.240
I want to be, I want to be able to talk to my woman, but a lot of those conversations
00:28:03.520
that you're talking about where you need to get to know them all the time, you want to
00:28:05.840
see the good and the bad.
00:28:06.960
I want to see all, I want to see the real you.
00:28:08.960
I don't want to see all the bad stuff.
00:28:10.640
I want to know about it, but why do I have to deal with that?
00:28:12.800
A good relationship is about putting your best foot forward at all times and making
00:28:16.080
each other happier.
00:28:17.600
Hold up.
00:28:17.920
Why does love for a lot of these people equate to being, showing your bad stuff too, crying
00:28:23.120
all the time, arguing.
00:28:24.160
That's the real, no, it doesn't have to be that.
00:28:26.000
Why can't we just put our best foot forward at all times?
00:28:28.000
You don't do that in every relationship.
00:28:30.400
You don't do that with your friendships either.
00:28:31.520
You don't do that with your family.
00:28:32.240
Ideally you do.
00:28:33.040
No, absolutely not.
00:28:34.240
That's the most ideal friendship.
00:28:35.200
Friends are supposed to be there for you when you're down too.
00:28:37.280
Not just like only my best foot forward, right?
00:28:39.360
Okay, look, look, look.
00:28:40.560
This is going to end all.
00:28:41.520
The bottom line is this simply, why you should not live with your girl.
00:28:44.960
It makes you more attractive as a man, period.
00:28:47.600
None of y'all can argue that because you're working on yourself.
00:28:50.320
You're busy.
00:28:51.040
You're not always available.
00:28:52.160
These are things that are inherently attractive.
00:28:54.240
So therefore you will be more attractive to your girl, even though she doesn't like it.
00:28:57.680
That's the bottom line.
00:28:58.560
Why you should not live with the girl.
00:28:59.520
It's not from the female perspective.
00:29:00.880
It's from the male perspective, but you being a more attractive mate, not always being available.
00:29:04.800
All right.
00:29:06.000
At a deeper level, as a man, we're on YouTube and Rumble guys.
00:29:10.800
Come on over.
00:29:11.200
Let's say we argue, right?
00:29:12.320
And we become at odds.
00:29:14.400
And you say, you know what?
00:29:15.360
Fuck this nigga.
00:29:16.080
I'm going to call the police and say that he hit me.
00:29:18.000
Guess what?
00:29:19.040
Now I'm on the house and you can stay in the house for free.
00:29:21.840
So ultimately speaking, it could be in a man's not best interest to live with you because
00:29:25.520
you can mess him up at any point in time.
00:29:27.040
But that's with a toxic girl that would call the police.
00:29:30.000
Toxic has multiple meanings and what she's saying is that she's more so talking about
00:29:40.240
is that sometimes you develop self-sabotaging behavior and you become aware of it and you
00:29:50.000
try to heal and grow and learn.
00:29:52.240
So now the next time that she comes into a serious relationship, she'll be more aware
00:29:57.600
of those things that trigger her and she'll be able to better move through those feelings.
00:30:00.720
But wait, time out.
00:30:03.120
What I wanted to say before was that you yourself said, oh, you can't apply this standard to
00:30:08.960
the world universally.
00:30:10.320
But then here you are trying to apply standards universally to all women.
00:30:13.440
So that's a neutral perspective.
00:30:15.200
You cannot apply universal things.
00:30:19.120
The bottom line is that I will have my dating preferences and I will have my standards and
00:30:23.680
I will have my expectations.
00:30:25.120
And the girl next to me might have completely different ones.
00:30:27.440
The man across you might have completely different ones.
00:30:29.680
We don't need to compare and contrast.
00:30:31.760
I'm going to look for somebody that aligns with my sets, whatever they are.
00:30:36.000
You're going to look for somebody that aligns with yours.
00:30:37.840
And we're both going to live full, happy lives.
00:30:40.720
Like there's the debate and the argument of like you trying to get people to agree.
00:30:45.440
Like what we're trying to agree on is not going to ever be agreeable because we're all
00:30:50.000
different people.
00:30:51.680
So it's like you're applying universal thinking.
00:30:54.320
Yeah, but there are things that women are universally attracted to and not being available
00:30:57.920
is definitely one of them.
00:30:59.280
There is a difference between like when you open a relationship versus like when you're
00:31:04.960
married, right?
00:31:05.920
Like if you're, for instance, if you're like just getting to know a girl, even all agree
00:31:09.280
that there are certain things you could keep in mind.
00:31:10.720
So for instance, not responding to her text immediately or some shit like that, there are
00:31:13.680
some games you could play that might be understandable to make it so more desirable.
00:31:16.640
But at this point, like if I text my wife or she texts me, we have to respond instantly.
00:31:19.680
Why the fuck are we playing games with each other?
00:31:20.880
We're fucking married.
00:31:21.440
We're past that shit.
00:31:22.320
Right?
00:31:22.640
I feel like once you get past the early game shit, you should be able to just be open
00:31:25.360
and open and open and open and open and open and open and open and open and open.
00:31:27.760
You got to keep playing it, bro.
00:31:28.880
That's it.
00:31:29.280
See, that's why so many guys get in battle and get divorced.
00:31:31.680
Like, yo, you got to keep playing the game even when you're in the relationship with
00:31:35.120
a girl, because the thing with women is that they're emotional creatures.
00:31:37.280
You got to constantly stimulate their emotions.
00:31:38.720
But that's so true for you, because you always have your guard up.
00:31:41.600
Why don't you get your guard down?
00:31:43.200
If you always play games with a girl, you're like, the reason why men have to play games
00:31:47.440
with women is because women's are the fucking, like, they literally play the games.
00:31:50.960
They start the games.
00:31:53.280
What are the ones that say, oh, I'm not going to text them back, or let me pretend to try
00:31:56.720
hard and not try hard?
00:31:57.280
Some women does that.
00:31:58.160
Some men does that.
00:31:59.120
A lot of women play games.
00:32:00.320
The reason why, yo, I wish we could walk up to girls like, I find you attractive.
00:32:04.720
Let's fornicate.
00:32:05.520
But that would never work, because women don't operate that way.
00:32:08.240
You guys don't operate on direct communication.
00:32:10.000
I wish I could go up to y'all and tell you what I really think, but I can't.
00:32:12.640
I have to play games.
00:32:13.520
I have to pretend like I'm attracted to you.
00:32:14.960
I have to pretend like I'm going to go ahead and care about your fucking problems.
00:32:17.360
I got to take you on three dates.
00:32:18.560
I got to hear your shit, blah, blah, blah.
00:32:20.160
I got to bring you back to my place.
00:32:21.280
Make sure the place is clean.
00:32:22.080
You don't want to do that?
00:32:23.200
It's called being in a relationship.
00:32:24.880
No, no, no, no.
00:32:25.600
It's called dating.
00:32:26.640
What I'm trying to say is that women want the game, so you have to play the game.
00:32:29.680
So the thing is that you got to play the game better than them.
00:32:31.680
And the big part to play the game is to maintain and leverage, make sure she likes you more
00:32:34.800
than you like her, and make sure that you stay attractive.
00:32:36.880
But staying attractive a lot of times comes in from not always being available.
00:32:39.920
That's what I want to ask.
00:32:40.400
Okay, can I ask one question and I'll give you all the floor.
00:32:42.480
Can we go around the table?
00:32:43.200
How many girls here have been in a decently long-term relationship?
00:32:45.360
So we'll say six months plus that have enjoyed having a guy like,
00:32:48.800
fuck with your head like this, where you're like, oh yeah,
00:32:50.720
like he's not responding for a week or whatever.
00:32:52.320
They're not going to admit it, bro.
00:32:53.040
They're not going to admit that, bro.
00:32:54.080
Okay.
00:32:54.480
It's a toxic trait.
00:32:55.680
They're not going to admit it.
00:32:56.880
They're not going to admit it.
00:32:57.680
Who would?
00:32:58.320
I've talked to a lot of women.
00:33:00.000
I've never heard somebody say, yeah, like my boyfriend, he didn't text me back for like
00:33:03.600
three days.
00:33:04.080
And that was just like the best thing.
00:33:05.200
They won't.
00:33:05.680
They won't like that.
00:33:06.240
They won't like that.
00:33:06.880
Especially on camera, they won't say it.
00:33:08.720
Most women are addicted to emotions, so it's a stimulant.
00:33:11.120
What is most women are addicted to emotions?
00:33:12.880
Everybody's addicted to emotions.
00:33:13.920
We're emotional creatures.
00:33:14.880
It's a stimulant because you don't get complacent in it if you're constantly wondering like,
00:33:18.480
damn, does this nigga fuck with me?
00:33:19.280
Okay, that's fine, but if you live your life-
00:33:20.640
That keeps you literally focused on one person instead of getting attention from other people.
00:33:24.960
It doesn't.
00:33:25.280
She'll lose interest.
00:33:26.400
She's not going to stay with you if you play games with it, number one.
00:33:28.240
And number two, the only types of girls that will maintain interest are the girls are going
00:33:31.760
to show up at 6 a.m. slash your tires.
00:33:33.440
That's the type of girls that you're picking for.
00:33:35.920
If you're a man and you have a frame, she's going to respect you and not be that crazy.
00:33:38.400
No, she won't respect you.
00:33:39.360
My man can't even live with me?
00:33:40.560
My man can't even live with me?
00:33:41.760
You think she's going to respect that?
00:33:42.720
That's insane.
00:33:43.200
That's where a frame comes in.
00:33:44.160
What is the frame?
00:33:45.040
If a woman respects you.
00:33:45.760
The frame is I can't be around you for more than four days in a row without like being weak.
00:33:48.640
The frame is his dominance and knowing to put you in your place because
00:33:51.040
What is your place?
00:33:51.840
They're placed in a separate house.
00:33:53.280
If you show up to his fucking house unannounced, he's going to be like, yo, this is done.
00:33:56.640
That's where frame comes in.
00:33:57.680
She understands that you hate her, that you're there to fuck.
00:34:02.400
These are like the most adversarial relationships I've ever heard in my life.
00:34:05.280
What?
00:34:05.840
These relationships are adversarial.
00:34:07.520
Are you serious right now?
00:34:09.040
Yeah.
00:34:09.760
Are you serious right now?
00:34:11.600
Is he serious right now?
00:34:13.040
If you respect somebody, it doesn't matter how crazy you get, you get in your emotions.
00:34:17.040
You aren't going to just pull up to their fucking house with unannounced without their permission,
00:34:21.440
because you're going to know he's going to he's not going to tolerate that.
00:34:24.240
That's what frame is knowing that he's the leader.
00:34:26.560
He's in charge.
00:34:27.360
You don't go over there unless he announced like he tells you to come.
00:34:30.880
Okay.
00:34:31.280
Well, I think in a relationship where two people love each other,
00:34:33.120
I think showing up unannounced can be like a fun surprise sometimes.
00:34:35.440
But I guess you guys like.
00:34:36.160
No, man shows up on a woman.
00:34:38.080
That's the man.
00:34:38.720
That's the serenading.
00:34:39.680
The man shows up on the woman unannounced.
00:34:41.200
It's the woman should never show up on the man unannounced.
00:34:43.200
Okay.
00:34:43.440
Yeah.
00:34:44.000
I'm sorry.
00:34:44.400
That's crazy.
00:34:45.040
And I would say relationships.
00:34:46.640
I mean, if you look at like what men want, first of all, women want, it's inherently adversarial.
00:34:50.880
And the reason why is because men are looking for sex.
00:34:53.040
Women are looking for resources, time and attention.
00:34:54.880
And it's a dance between the two genders to get the other commodity from the other
00:34:58.640
without giving up there.
00:34:59.520
So, for example.
00:35:00.080
That's not even true, though.
00:35:01.200
Really?
00:35:01.840
Really?
00:35:02.240
Let me explain.
00:35:02.880
Well, no, no, wait.
00:35:03.440
Hold on.
00:35:03.760
Before you do your explanation.
00:35:05.120
This is the easiest thing in the world.
00:35:06.160
Okay.
00:35:06.640
If you.
00:35:07.280
I can make so many personal texts here and I'm not doing it.
00:35:09.120
I might be so personal with that.
00:35:10.320
I want you to.
00:35:11.120
I want you to.
00:35:12.240
Listen, if you go and you find an incel.
00:35:14.800
Okay.
00:35:15.040
An actual incel.
00:35:16.080
All right.
00:35:16.560
What is the thing they're looking for most in life?
00:35:18.080
I mean.
00:35:18.960
A hug.
00:35:19.600
It's not sex.
00:35:20.480
They want the love and warmth and compassion of being in a relationship, right?
00:35:23.360
That's what people, that's what guys and the sex.
00:35:25.360
Sure.
00:35:25.760
But not just sex, but the idea that somebody loves them and accepts them enough to have
00:35:28.400
sex with them.
00:35:29.040
That's why you can't tell an incel.
00:35:30.240
Yo, just go buy a prostitute and go fuck her for a night.
00:35:32.160
Or that's why you can't tell any man.
00:35:33.360
Like if you make enough money, just fuck a different hooker every night.
00:35:35.120
Because you don't want to fuck hooker.
00:35:36.000
You want somebody that loves and accepts you.
00:35:37.040
That's part of being in a relationship.
00:35:38.000
Here's the thing, you didn't refute what I was trying to say was the two genders are
00:35:42.320
adversarial in general.
00:35:43.280
And the reason why is because both parties want something from the other without necessarily
00:35:46.480
giving up their situation.
00:35:47.440
I'll give you, if you got a court to grow, right?
00:35:49.360
She wants time, attention, and resources from that man before she gives him sex, right?
00:35:53.440
And I guess, how do I say this?
00:35:55.920
An indicator of a man having good game is being able to not give all that up while simultaneously
00:35:59.760
getting sex.
00:36:00.240
That's the parameter that guys use to establish if a guy has good game.
00:36:03.120
So what I'm saying is that the two genders want the commodity that the other one has
00:36:06.720
without giving up their commodity.
00:36:08.080
So it's inherently adversarial.
00:36:09.520
Now, I get what you're saying.
00:36:10.320
Oh, well, you're in a relationship, et cetera.
00:36:12.000
You still have to play the game when you're with your wife.
00:36:13.600
I think the goal is that if you're with a person, you enjoy giving them the time,
00:36:18.000
the attention, the resources, because it makes both of you happy.
00:36:19.760
But if you give it to them in an abundant fashion, they don't respect it anymore.
00:36:22.480
And here's the thing, dude, I wish it wasn't like that.
00:36:24.160
But women don't respect you when they have leverage.
00:36:26.160
I think when you're selecting for crazy women like this, maybe, but for most women,
00:36:29.840
I think they want you to want to spend time and attention and resources on it.
00:36:32.560
Because it's fun.
00:36:33.120
To get the best out of your girl, to get the best out of your girl where she's super loyal to you.
00:36:36.640
She's not doing anything else on the side.
00:36:38.160
She fucking only loves, admires, respects you.
00:36:39.760
There's no fuck shit.
00:36:40.560
And she stays loyal to you.
00:36:41.840
You must have the leverage as the man.
00:36:43.120
She must have the fear of God that if you leave her,
00:36:45.920
her life is going to suck significantly more.
00:36:47.680
So what's she going to do?
00:36:48.400
I'm telling you, women operate the best when they're stepping on eggshells,
00:36:52.160
not trying to get you mad or get broken up with.
00:36:54.320
I think if you spend three days a week away from your woman,
00:36:56.480
she's going to be sucking up her dick in like two months.
00:36:58.240
That's not true.
00:37:06.960
Can I ask a question?
00:37:07.520
Actually, the ultimate question, okay?
00:37:09.120
The best way to get loyalty then, it should be military men,
00:37:11.200
because they're leaving for fucking years at a time,
00:37:12.960
and they get cheated on in like two weeks after they step out of the house.
00:37:14.960
It's not about how much time you spend away.
00:37:16.400
Loyalty to your country versus loyalty to a woman are two different things.
00:37:18.320
It's not about how much time, come on, man.
00:37:20.640
Years is different than a couple days.
00:37:22.720
Bumble clock.
00:37:24.080
Bad argument.
00:37:25.040
Okay, you have a question or we can move on?
00:37:26.320
Yeah, someone else has some.
00:37:27.440
I did, if it's okay.
00:37:29.120
I'm genuinely curious, Myron,
00:37:30.400
because I saw a little clip of yours that went through,
00:37:32.080
and I'm wondering if maybe where it's getting tripped up is that,
00:37:36.800
you know, we're talking about normal people's perception of like dating
00:37:40.000
versus you guys are trying to instill the high value perspective, right?
00:37:43.600
Yeah.
00:37:43.920
One of the clips I saw you basically said that like,
00:37:45.840
you should never actually fall in love with your woman.
00:37:48.160
Yeah.
00:37:48.400
I don't know if I misconstrued that.
00:37:49.680
Could you like elaborate on that a little bit more and maybe explain
00:37:52.320
like how that maybe correlates to what you're talking about here?
00:37:54.960
You shouldn't pedestalize her and think that you're in love the way that movies tell you
00:37:58.800
to be in love.
00:37:59.680
Like, she's your world.
00:38:00.640
Like, she's your everything where you give everything away to her,
00:38:03.200
because then you end up living with her for eight years,
00:38:05.200
and then she talks about triggering and trauma,
00:38:07.200
and she'll end the relationship for no reason.
00:38:08.880
Like, you can invest everything into a relationship,
00:38:11.040
but that's not inherently what women want.
00:38:13.680
Women want to constantly try to chase your validation.
00:38:16.000
It is what it is.
00:38:16.720
You call it game.
00:38:17.680
You're playing games.
00:38:18.560
There's a reason why it's called game when you try to pick up a girl.
00:38:20.960
It's always a game.
00:38:21.920
Love is a back and forth.
00:38:22.880
You say it's adversarial, but you are always in competition to some extent.
00:38:26.400
Women will constantly shit test you.
00:38:27.840
They always want to see if you're the man that's capable of leading.
00:38:29.920
They want to see if you're the guy in charge.
00:38:31.440
If you're spending eight years with her all the time,
00:38:33.360
you're going to lose your frame.
00:38:34.480
You're going to lose that masculine essence about you.
00:38:36.560
That's what attracted her to you in the first place.
00:38:38.720
That's not true.
00:38:39.840
All right, so I think she asked me, but it's okay.
00:38:44.000
My thing is, I say you don't fall in love with a woman.
00:38:46.160
You have love for a woman, and the reason why I say you don't fall in love
00:38:48.320
is because when a man falls in love,
00:38:49.600
what ends up happening is the rational thought is gone.
00:38:51.520
Now they're acting off of emotion, and the last thing you want to be as a man
00:38:54.160
is acting off of emotion with your woman.
00:38:55.760
That's her job to fall in love and be emotional.
00:38:57.680
Women need that.
00:38:58.480
Men don't need that.
00:38:59.200
Men need to be in a rational mindset at all times, even when dealing with their girl,
00:39:02.160
because the thing is is that when you're with a girl and she does stupid
00:39:04.640
shit or pisses you off or she disobeys you or whatever,
00:39:06.800
you need to be in the rational frame to be like,
00:39:08.720
that wasn't acceptable behavior.
00:39:10.080
This needs to be corrected right now.
00:39:11.280
But you can't operate and tell your girl that if you're in love with her.
00:39:13.840
Right.
00:39:14.160
You don't but don't you feel like guys are so much more logical anyway?
00:39:17.840
Just naturally that that they can supersede that even if they have feminized men nowadays
00:39:22.560
that think that falling in love is the way to go.
00:39:24.160
And the reality is, no, you don't fall in love.
00:39:25.600
You're not a woman.
00:39:26.480
You need to be the leader in the relationship,
00:39:28.240
always have frame and be the dominant.
00:39:29.600
And by doing to do that, you have to have love for her and not fall in love with her.
00:39:32.560
But guys nowadays are extremely feminized
00:39:34.240
and they think that they can love a woman the same way she loves him.
00:39:36.480
And that's not going to work.
00:39:37.680
Do you want your woman to fall in love with you?
00:39:39.360
Yes, that's how it's got to go.
00:39:40.560
So then you have to be true to who you actually are and not pretend.
00:39:43.200
You have to be able to be a human and let her love you as a human,
00:39:46.160
because that's a bigger game.
00:39:47.280
If we can solve your brain and figure out what's actually in your head.
00:39:50.400
So even if you have fantasies.
00:39:52.080
You can't solve our brain though.
00:39:53.040
That's the problem.
00:39:53.360
But we can help you become a better man.
00:39:55.200
So that's a better game.
00:39:56.240
No, you can't.
00:39:56.800
That's a better game for us to change.
00:39:58.240
Hold on, hold on.
00:39:58.880
This is why you're wrong.
00:39:59.680
Because women love men opportunistically for what they provide.
00:40:02.160
You wouldn't even give me a chance if I wasn't the man in the first place.
00:40:04.400
Maybe you have to provide more than just finances.
00:40:05.840
You might be able to help me come in and make me a little bit better,
00:40:07.520
but you're not going to make me the man.
00:40:09.280
I was already the man, which is why you fell in love with me in the first place.
00:40:11.440
But if you can't be a man while living with me,
00:40:13.120
are you really the man if you don't have control?
00:40:15.520
What do you mean?
00:40:15.920
I do have control.
00:40:16.480
You don't have control.
00:40:17.040
That's why I'm leaving the house and going to my other one.
00:40:18.160
But you have to leave.
00:40:19.040
So you're running from your own self-control.
00:40:21.280
Oh, that's a nice reframe.
00:40:22.240
I'm not running.
00:40:22.720
I'm choosing to leave because I want to leave and I don't want to be around you all the time.
00:40:25.360
Do you not have the self-control?
00:40:26.160
It's not about self-control.
00:40:27.120
It's about I know what women are attracted to,
00:40:28.720
and I know what's best for the relationship to last.
00:40:30.720
So I'm not going to give my girl all my time and attention at all times because women don't respect that.
00:40:35.200
But you're saying men become weak when they live with their women.
00:40:37.280
They do.
00:40:37.760
Then that's their fault.
00:40:38.960
That's not the woman's fault.
00:40:39.760
That's the man's fault.
00:40:40.480
No, no.
00:40:40.880
But see, here's the thing.
00:40:41.440
You got to set yourself up in an environment to win sometimes.
00:40:43.760
Being around your girl all the time is going to make you softer.
00:40:46.000
There's a reason why men that get married to have kids, their testosterone drops.
00:40:49.360
You have to do things sometimes overtly to make sure that you still maintain the edge.
00:40:53.200
I want to say something.
00:40:54.400
I think it happens because when a man is spending the most time with the women,
00:41:02.400
they're always on their feminine side.
00:41:04.960
Because as a woman, you always want to stay home.
00:41:07.360
Well, most of the time you want to stay home and you want to be on your feminine.
00:41:10.800
So if the man is always at home, they're not complimenting themselves.
00:41:17.440
They're always on their feminine with the women.
00:41:20.160
So we as women, we always want the masculine side of the men.
00:41:24.320
And we want to stay like 100% all the time.
00:41:26.480
So that's why they, yeah, basically they'll need space inside for themselves to keep like
00:41:32.000
that masculine in.
00:41:33.040
Right.
00:41:33.680
You know what I mean?
00:41:34.320
Can I just, on that note, I think it's this ideology that if you live with your woman,
00:41:39.680
you suddenly have no other outside life and your lives just completely merged together.
00:41:43.680
Both parties should still be independent.
00:41:45.840
You should still have friends.
00:41:46.880
You should still have a job.
00:41:48.400
Like if you have to travel for work, like these are other outlets that you're not around
00:41:52.880
just women all the time.
00:41:54.000
Like you still have male friends.
00:41:55.600
I mean, yes, of course, but if you're living with your partner all the time,
00:42:00.560
you're going to spend a hundred percent.
00:42:02.240
Well, most of the time with your partner.
00:42:04.160
So that is not true.
00:42:05.520
I mean, you know, when you live together with a partner, you have,
00:42:08.720
unless you're literally in like fucking New York City and like a box with each other,
00:42:11.920
like you have different parts of the house you hang out in.
00:42:13.920
Just because you're living together doesn't mean you spend every waking moment together.
00:42:16.480
It's the same space though.
00:42:18.240
It doesn't matter.
00:42:18.880
It doesn't mean you're right next to each other.
00:42:20.080
For a healthy relationship.
00:42:20.960
Unless you look at a big ass mansion, she's on the other side.
00:42:22.480
You're going to see her destiny.
00:42:22.960
I don't need a big, bro.
00:42:23.520
I live in Miami just like you do, okay?
00:42:25.040
I don't have a fucking mansion out here, okay?
00:42:26.320
You're going to see her.
00:42:26.960
You could be, yeah, you're going to see her, but that's okay.
00:42:28.640
You should be able to be around each other and not be in each other's face 100% of the time.
00:42:32.240
But like really basic things like being able to sleep together every day,
00:42:35.040
being able to wake up in the morning and see each other.
00:42:36.400
Like these are things you can do without like encroaching in each other's space.
00:42:38.480
Like it's a fine thing.
00:42:39.120
But if you're sleeping, you're definitely encroaching on their space.
00:42:41.840
You're sleeping with them every day.
00:42:43.600
It's literally your bed right there.
00:42:45.120
That's your space.
00:42:45.760
What's wrong with it?
00:42:46.320
If they're satisfying you.
00:42:48.160
Again, they won't be all the time.
00:42:49.440
Again, ladies, ladies, you guys are failing to realize that I'm talking about the man maintaining
00:42:53.280
attraction with the woman.
00:42:54.560
Always being available for your girl is going to make you less attractive, period.
00:42:59.520
But I mean, I see you're saying we're failing to understand something and other
00:43:03.600
women are just disagreeing and expressing that we're attracted to other things.
00:43:07.200
And maybe we fall in this exception that you're talking about.
00:43:10.080
Hold on, hold on.
00:43:10.400
Let me stop you real quick.
00:43:11.040
What women say they're attracted to and what they're aroused by are two different things.
00:43:13.600
Women typically give politically correct answers when it comes to what they're attracted to.
00:43:16.720
They will never say the truth about I like you to spank me and, you know,
00:43:19.920
pull my hair.
00:43:20.320
And choke you.
00:43:21.120
I want you to choke me.
00:43:22.080
Oh, I want you to ignore me.
00:43:23.360
I want you to have other women so that I feel like I'm the one being picked versus that.
00:43:26.080
Women will never actually admit what they're really
00:43:28.400
attracted to and what they're aroused by because it's politically-
00:43:30.240
You can say that, but you're never going to find women outside of these
00:43:33.360
very hyper niche red pill spaces that are like, oh yeah,
00:43:35.600
like I found a really good guy.
00:43:36.720
He leaves like half the week every week.
00:43:38.000
That's never going to happen.
00:43:39.280
I'm going to admit that.
00:43:39.920
That's my point.
00:43:40.640
No, no.
00:43:41.200
Those relations don't exist.
00:43:42.320
No, they don't exist.
00:43:42.960
They don't exist.
00:43:43.680
They don't exist.
00:43:44.720
No, no, no.
00:43:44.880
They don't exist.
00:43:45.280
Most guys just don't have the ability to do so.
00:43:47.280
If most guys don't have the ability to do it, then most relations aren't like that by default.
00:43:49.840
Most guys don't have the ability to do it.
00:43:51.120
So they have to go ahead and do what?
00:43:52.320
Submit to the woman's will.
00:43:53.360
Live with her.
00:43:53.920
Give her all this attention.
00:43:54.880
Why do you say submit to the woman's will?
00:43:55.840
Maybe you both enjoy it.
00:43:56.800
That's not what men are in here.
00:43:58.800
What they're talking about is probably mercy subconscious as well.
00:44:02.400
Because like, for example, my ex, when he would leave and like go away to work somewhere
00:44:05.520
for like a week, I would miss him so fucking much while he was gone, like so much.
00:44:10.080
And so like, I see the point.
00:44:11.760
I get what you're saying, Destiny, but it's not like, oh,
00:44:14.240
I'm going to blatantly do this just to avert this reaction.
00:44:17.200
It's just something that naturally happens.
00:44:18.800
Yeah, no, no.
00:44:19.360
But what you're saying is true when people go on trips and stuff, you do that.
00:44:21.600
But that's different than like, we've got it structured.
00:44:23.200
So I'm gone 180 days of the year.
00:44:25.200
That's what I'm saying.
00:44:26.480
Like, I agree with you in that regard.
00:44:27.760
But psychologically, what they're saying makes sense.
00:44:29.440
No, no, no, no, no, no, hold on.
00:44:30.640
Psychologically, what they're saying doesn't make sense.
00:44:31.840
Because it's a big difference between my man wants to go somewhere for a week
00:44:34.400
because he's got responsibilities or whatever.
00:44:35.760
Versus I'm putting four days of space between us
00:44:37.680
because I've decided that's what I need to do to make you like it.
00:44:41.520
Planning that, true, but ultimately the outcome is the same.
00:44:44.080
When someone is away and you miss them.
00:44:45.520
No, no, no.
00:44:45.920
The same, the same.
00:44:47.280
But okay, again, the intention, I completely agree with what you're saying there.
00:44:51.840
Okay, thank you, okay.
00:44:52.480
But it doesn't have to be structured like I'm going to spend exactly,
00:44:54.720
you don't have to write out the calendar days of when you're going to go spend time.
00:44:57.040
It really doesn't matter how much.
00:44:58.800
If you were to tell your woman, listen, on Saturday,
00:45:00.720
I'm going to leave the house.
00:45:01.360
And she's like, well, what's up?
00:45:02.000
It's like, I just want to like get away from you for a day.
00:45:03.920
No, no, you don't say that.
00:45:04.800
You don't say that.
00:45:05.920
So now you're lying about why you're leaving the house every week.
00:45:08.000
Here's the thing, you don't explain yourself.
00:45:09.440
That's another thing too.
00:45:10.160
Like, bro, I don't explain myself to women.
00:45:12.560
I'm just going to do this.
00:45:13.280
I'll see you later.
00:45:13.840
That's it.
00:45:14.400
I don't sit here and negotiate or any of the stuff.
00:45:16.160
I'm the leader.
00:45:16.880
She's a subordinate.
00:45:18.080
I don't owe her a fucking answer.
00:45:18.960
It's either she falls into frame or she doesn't,
00:45:20.640
or the relationship is not going to work.
00:45:22.080
We're not equal.
00:45:23.040
I already know the answer, but just to ask,
00:45:24.240
like if the woman would said the same thing,
00:45:25.440
she's like, okay, well, I'm going to be gone on Sunday.
00:45:26.800
That would be acceptable.
00:45:27.600
You would need to know that.
00:45:29.040
And the reason, here's the reason why I need to know.
00:45:30.640
I'm the authority in the relationship.
00:45:32.160
I am the leader.
00:45:32.800
I'm the protector.
00:45:33.440
So I must know.
00:45:34.480
Her on the other hand, she is a subordinate.
00:45:35.920
So therefore we have different roles in the, in the situation.
00:45:38.880
She must tell me where she's going.
00:45:40.160
I must know.
00:45:40.560
Cause I'm responsible for her safety.
00:45:41.920
She's not responsible for my safety.
00:45:43.120
So I don't have to tell her shit.
00:45:43.920
Well, are you my, are you my parent?
00:45:47.120
Are you my caregiver?
00:45:48.160
No, he's my parent.
00:45:49.280
No, no, no.
00:45:49.840
But here's the thing.
00:45:52.240
This is where this is coming from.
00:45:53.360
You guys think men and women are equal.
00:45:54.800
I'm saying we're not.
00:46:01.440
That's it.
00:46:01.840
Is this your job?
Link copied!