SNEAKO - May 11, 2023


The Reason Why You Should NEVER Live With Your Girlfriend


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

259.9945

Word Count

11,975

Sentence Count

1,246

Misogynist Sentences

134

Hate Speech Sentences

107


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Transcript

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00:00:00.000 What is your phone number?
00:00:02.600 I'll give it to you after.
00:00:04.040 It's a French number, though.
00:00:05.800 There's no problem.
00:00:06.880 French Riz.
00:00:08.280 Thank you very much.
00:00:09.080 Yeah, I do fantasize about weird shit.
00:00:11.040 That does not mean that I want to do them.
00:00:13.120 You fantasize about it,
00:00:14.120 but there's interesting fantasizing
00:00:15.080 and actually doing it in real life.
00:00:15.920 Yeah, right?
00:00:16.720 Exactly. You contradicted yourself.
00:00:18.280 I think we just had a prime example.
00:00:19.920 She's saying what she wants, right?
00:00:21.480 But she just gave him the number
00:00:22.760 and he's saying exactly everything
00:00:23.960 she's saying she don't want.
00:00:25.120 Oh, shit.
00:00:25.720 So that's a contradiction.
00:00:26.920 Are you mad?
00:00:27.920 Are you a little mad?
00:00:28.920 Oh, don't play with me, baby.
00:00:30.000 Don't fucking play with me.
00:00:31.040 Are you mad?
00:00:31.640 Don't play with me.
00:00:32.040 It's just a question.
00:00:32.760 I was making an example.
00:00:34.040 Baby, I'm not mad.
00:00:35.200 You're pretty.
00:00:35.880 Thank you, you too.
00:00:37.080 Right, but what I'm saying is
00:00:38.640 you said you like a nice guy.
00:00:41.040 Yeah, maybe he's really nice.
00:00:42.720 Maybe he's nice.
00:00:43.440 Maybe he's just spitting your problems.
00:00:45.040 Don't play with me, though.
00:00:46.480 No, but I'm not.
00:00:47.280 But you're coming super aggressive.
00:00:48.960 Check your men.
00:00:49.920 Don't fucking check me.
00:00:51.120 Check your men.
00:00:52.160 So speaking of hypocrisy,
00:00:53.520 as you can see right here,
00:00:54.320 that the one-sided arrangement
00:00:55.200 does not work very clearly.
00:00:56.560 You can see the problems
00:00:57.600 that result from this.
00:00:58.600 Stop. Both of you.
00:00:59.760 Stop. Okay, y'all.
00:01:00.960 What the fuck is going on, man?
00:01:06.000 No, see, go.
00:01:08.000 I'm not telling you what, man, nigga.
00:01:09.440 What the fuck is going on?
00:01:13.280 So, uh, Destiny, you had a question,
00:01:14.800 so I'll turn it to you, my friend.
00:01:15.760 Go ahead.
00:01:16.400 I have a question for the ladies on the panel.
00:01:17.840 Please. Right.
00:01:19.040 Would you guys date a man
00:01:20.720 that said he would never live with you,
00:01:22.240 but instead wanted to live
00:01:23.040 with all of his boys instead?
00:01:24.320 Damn, long term, but he tells you,
00:01:26.720 I'm never going to live with you.
00:01:28.320 You can have sleepovers and stuff,
00:01:29.520 but we're never going to live together.
00:01:30.560 But he's like a cool guy otherwise.
00:01:31.600 I'm just curious.
00:01:32.560 I have a follow-up question
00:01:33.120 after we go answer this one.
00:01:34.000 Okay.
00:01:34.400 To combat this one.
00:01:35.200 That's fine. That's fine.
00:01:36.000 Uh, we'll start here with Miss Paris.
00:01:38.000 Uh, would you live with a guy who...
00:01:40.240 Or not live with a guy, date a guy.
00:01:41.600 Oh yeah. Okay.
00:01:42.400 Excuse me.
00:01:43.040 Would you date a guy seriously
00:01:44.400 that said he doesn't want to live with you?
00:01:45.680 Uh, if I'm dating you seriously
00:01:47.600 and you don't want to live with me,
00:01:49.120 I think that it's a little weird
00:01:50.560 because it's sketchy.
00:01:51.760 I mean, that you kind of have something to hide.
00:01:54.400 So no.
00:01:54.960 Okay.
00:01:55.760 Okay.
00:01:56.240 Yeah.
00:01:56.640 It's fair.
00:01:57.680 Okay.
00:01:58.400 Yes.
00:02:01.680 Okay. You would agree with that.
00:02:02.560 Okay.
00:02:02.880 W.
00:02:03.760 All right.
00:02:04.560 What about you?
00:02:05.520 Um, personally,
00:02:06.880 I don't think I would actually live with anyone
00:02:09.440 until I'm engaged.
00:02:11.280 So that would be like a deal breaker.
00:02:13.040 If he was like, I'll never live with you.
00:02:15.680 Yeah.
00:02:15.840 I'm not going for that.
00:02:16.560 No, but while you're dating, that's fine.
00:02:18.240 Well, but we're saying forever.
00:02:19.360 So that's cool.
00:02:19.840 No, no.
00:02:20.560 He said forever.
00:02:21.360 He said, I will never live with you.
00:02:23.200 Like, ever.
00:02:24.480 She listens.
00:02:25.520 Okay.
00:02:26.240 You can learn something.
00:02:26.960 I'm not about to graduate law school for nothing.
00:02:30.400 No.
00:02:30.720 All right.
00:02:30.960 So that's a no from you.
00:02:31.760 What about you?
00:02:32.160 That is scary.
00:02:32.720 Yeah, I agree.
00:02:33.680 And, uh, logistically,
00:02:35.280 especially long term for like the family unit.
00:02:37.520 That's probably not going to be the best thing.
00:02:45.920 It depends on like the definition of like dating,
00:02:48.880 but like me personally,
00:02:50.080 I had a bad experience living with the guy that I was dating.
00:02:53.760 So I personally would not do it again.
00:02:56.000 I rather just like,
00:02:57.600 so you'd be okay with that.
00:02:58.880 Of course.
00:02:59.440 Living in different locations.
00:03:00.880 All right.
00:03:01.200 What about you?
00:03:01.600 I think I would be okay with it if it was like his own house,
00:03:07.280 but like the fact that it's with like other guys,
00:03:10.160 I don't know about that.
00:03:11.040 Is that required in the, in the, uh,
00:03:12.640 Well, because you would be living with other high value men,
00:03:14.560 of course.
00:03:14.960 So, you know, you'd be networked.
00:03:16.240 Of course.
00:03:16.640 Yeah, of course.
00:03:17.760 This guy.
00:03:18.320 Okay.
00:03:18.880 So you, you would say, you would say yes,
00:03:20.400 but if he's little, other guys, no.
00:03:21.760 Yeah.
00:03:22.240 Okay.
00:03:23.920 Would you think it's a little sus or?
00:03:25.200 Yeah.
00:03:26.240 Unless he had like, you know,
00:03:27.360 he was running like a YouTube channel in there and we like work together or something.
00:03:30.560 Oh, interesting.
00:03:31.120 Oh, work.
00:03:31.440 Okay.
00:03:31.760 Content house.
00:03:32.400 Oh, okay.
00:03:33.280 Okay.
00:03:33.600 So that's a yes then.
00:03:34.480 That's a yes.
00:03:34.960 What about you?
00:03:36.000 Um, dating?
00:03:36.800 Yes.
00:03:37.200 Married?
00:03:37.600 No.
00:03:37.840 Because when I want to have kids, I want a two parent household.
00:03:40.800 Okay.
00:03:41.120 Mm-hmm.
00:03:42.480 All right.
00:03:42.800 Okay.
00:03:43.200 I wouldn't do that.
00:03:44.480 No?
00:03:44.960 No.
00:03:45.280 What about when you're on your period?
00:03:47.920 Do I have to be in the house with you?
00:03:51.680 Especially not.
00:03:52.480 I think.
00:03:54.000 I could take a week off in the apartment.
00:03:55.680 Maybe.
00:03:58.400 All right.
00:03:59.200 That's a compromise.
00:04:01.360 It's a religious thing for him.
00:04:02.480 He can't be near women that are menstruating.
00:04:03.920 Absolutely not.
00:04:04.480 Yeah.
00:04:04.720 Yeah.
00:04:05.280 Really?
00:04:05.680 At all?
00:04:06.720 Stop for Allah.
00:04:07.120 Stop for Allah.
00:04:07.520 You can't be around your wives while they're bleeding.
00:04:10.400 Haram!
00:04:10.960 You gotta follow that Quran all the way, bro.
00:04:12.880 Oh, he doesn't eat pork or anything.
00:04:14.240 I'm watching you.
00:04:14.800 Yeah.
00:04:15.120 Watch.
00:04:15.520 All right.
00:04:17.600 Angie.
00:04:18.000 I think it's better that way.
00:04:19.040 Yeah.
00:04:19.360 I think that's completely fine.
00:04:21.200 He can leave with whoever he wants.
00:04:22.640 That'll be my right.
00:04:23.680 I mean, if he doesn't.
00:04:25.680 You know, Chris, you said it directly, bro.
00:04:30.000 Man.
00:04:30.400 It's too obvious now.
00:04:31.440 You can say to Chris, man.
00:04:32.480 What?
00:04:32.880 That was obvious.
00:04:33.680 Continue on, Angie.
00:04:34.960 Ignore him.
00:04:35.360 You guys can't.
00:04:35.920 You should grow up, man.
00:04:37.360 Yeah.
00:04:37.520 Seriously.
00:04:37.840 You should grow up.
00:04:38.560 Go ahead.
00:04:39.600 Yeah.
00:04:39.920 Like, it's better if he doesn't leave with me.
00:04:42.400 You know?
00:04:42.720 Like, it's just better for their relationship.
00:04:44.800 So.
00:04:45.040 Okay.
00:04:45.280 Now you got a follow up question, Nico?
00:04:47.280 Yes.
00:04:47.680 Go ahead.
00:04:48.080 Which way do you want to start?
00:04:49.040 Oh, we can start with Angie and then work our way.
00:04:50.400 Angie, could you take a man seriously that sucks dick?
00:04:54.320 Whoa.
00:04:55.920 Whoa.
00:04:56.720 Whoa.
00:04:57.040 Whoa.
00:04:58.000 Don't be sneaker.
00:04:58.480 Don't be sneaker.
00:04:59.600 Don't be sneaker.
00:05:00.000 Do you have a question?
00:05:00.400 Could you?
00:05:00.800 Okay.
00:05:00.960 Let's simplify the question.
00:05:01.920 Could you date a man?
00:05:02.800 Seriously?
00:05:03.920 That's bisexual.
00:05:04.800 Yeah.
00:05:05.440 Absolutely not.
00:05:07.200 Okay.
00:05:07.840 I don't.
00:05:09.200 I don't like that.
00:05:10.640 Okay.
00:05:11.120 No, Maricoon.
00:05:11.840 I just feel like if that's what you do, then I'll never satisfy you as a woman.
00:05:15.680 You're going to always want a man.
00:05:17.120 That's what I think.
00:05:18.240 Right.
00:05:18.560 Maybe you could tag team it, you know?
00:05:20.400 Mm-hmm.
00:05:21.520 I don't think so.
00:05:22.240 Okay.
00:05:22.480 Oh, you're good.
00:05:23.120 Is that what you think about tag teaming a sneaker?
00:05:24.480 Go call me.
00:05:25.200 Oh, you're good.
00:05:25.920 A bisexual man, it's not completely masculine.
00:05:29.760 That's right.
00:05:30.160 Yeah.
00:05:30.800 That's true.
00:05:31.760 Yep.
00:05:31.840 What about you?
00:05:32.640 That's true.
00:05:33.920 Um, probably not just because I feel like I would be scared to catch something.
00:05:39.120 I don't know.
00:05:40.240 That's like having sex with a flu.
00:05:42.320 A flu?
00:05:43.280 Like, I don't know.
00:05:44.720 An STD?
00:05:45.200 Yeah, an STD.
00:05:45.920 I would be scared.
00:05:46.800 What about you?
00:05:47.600 Yeah, a hundred percent.
00:05:48.800 No.
00:05:49.600 That's weird.
00:05:50.320 Yeah.
00:05:50.720 Okay.
00:05:51.120 Okay.
00:05:51.920 Nerd.
00:05:52.320 Nerd.
00:05:52.880 Nerd.
00:05:53.360 Nerd.
00:05:53.840 Nerd.
00:05:54.320 What about you?
00:05:56.800 Nerd.
00:05:57.200 Nerd.
00:05:58.240 No.
00:05:58.640 No.
00:05:59.120 Zina.
00:06:00.640 Haram.
00:06:01.280 Okay.
00:06:02.000 Haram.
00:06:02.720 No, I wouldn't date.
00:06:04.160 Well, so there wasn't one that was okay with that, but the living with high value man thing,
00:06:08.400 which you were kind of insinuating is gay, that men want to live with other men.
00:06:11.360 The panel was pretty 50-50 on that.
00:06:13.200 Some of them were okay with the compromise.
00:06:14.560 It's work.
00:06:15.040 They understand.
00:06:15.680 Depends on what level of the relationship.
00:06:17.200 But when it comes to bisexuality, not one woman here is okay with that.
00:06:22.000 What do you think?
00:06:22.640 No person in a serious relationship would be okay with never living with their partner.
00:06:25.760 That's a joke.
00:06:27.040 Like, even the people that sat on the panel, they'd be okay with it.
00:06:28.960 They wouldn't be okay with in a serious long-term relationship.
00:06:30.400 They just said they would be.
00:06:31.440 That's fine that they say it, but don't you guys also say women lie all the time?
00:06:34.080 You think they lie?
00:06:34.400 Nobody who's like 32 who is talking to their friends like, oh, you're dating this guy?
00:06:37.920 Yeah, we dated for like eight years.
00:06:38.880 I'm really excited because tomorrow I'm going to go have a sleepover at his house.
00:06:41.920 Nobody would be okay with that.
00:06:43.040 That's a joke.
00:06:43.600 But definitely, that would mean they would all lie on every answer.
00:06:46.960 So this means it's not good a basement of judgment.
00:06:49.520 That's true.
00:06:50.080 You never know.
00:06:51.040 I do want to say this so that it makes more sense.
00:06:53.120 Because just so you guys know, he asked that question to make fun of us.
00:06:56.080 Because we were saying earlier that you shouldn't live with your girl.
00:06:58.160 When I said that, what I mean is in like, you should get a house.
00:07:01.920 Like, let's say y'all have a family.
00:07:02.880 Y'all have kids or whatever.
00:07:04.000 You buy a house for her and the kids and you're there.
00:07:06.880 But you should not be spending all your time there is my point.
00:07:09.920 You should have another address that you can go to at times to create, you know, some space.
00:07:14.720 I think space makes things very important and it makes the heart grow fonder, space.
00:07:19.280 So I should have qualified.
00:07:20.720 We were actually saying the two house strategy.
00:07:22.560 That's who you're going for.
00:07:23.440 Yes.
00:07:23.840 Yeah, because you didn't ask for more detail.
00:07:25.440 But that would be the strategy in that situation where like, if you have a family and it's serious.
00:07:29.520 Yes, you have a house for her and the children.
00:07:31.200 You come in periodically and do what you need to do.
00:07:33.280 You obviously support the family because I think the man should be the breadwinner.
00:07:35.760 But you have another address that you actually stay at.
00:07:38.640 Because I think living with a woman does make you soft as a man.
00:07:41.280 But when you're going to get to your other address, you're going to like, it's sketchy.
00:07:45.120 It's weird.
00:07:45.600 Yeah, I mean, well, there's a couple of reasons for for that.
00:07:49.760 And I'd be happy to go into it if you guys want me to.
00:07:51.520 But before I do, it was did you guys have anything on that situation with the whole penis licking and
00:07:58.560 living somewhere else?
00:08:00.000 Any I mean, I just it's interesting because you guys talk about like getting to know a woman or whatever.
00:08:04.400 Yeah, but I feel like for me personally, I don't consider relationships real until people are living with each other
00:08:08.240 because you don't know shit about your partner until you have to spend every day with them to
00:08:11.440 like really figure out what's going on.
00:08:12.800 Of course.
00:08:13.200 And when you can choose when to see your partner on only your best days, it's hard to know what
00:08:17.040 the person's really like.
00:08:18.000 I agree.
00:08:18.480 Yeah, I agree.
00:08:19.200 Yeah.
00:08:19.600 But I can also argue if we live in separate houses, I'm going to see her all the time anyway.
00:08:23.840 Why would you see her all the time?
00:08:24.640 You live in separate houses.
00:08:25.520 Yeah, but we'll meet up for dinner for, you know, you can live right down the street next door.
00:08:31.760 But that's like essentially just picking and choosing when you want to like be around.
00:08:36.320 And I don't think that is like what a long term relationship is supposed to be about.
00:08:42.080 That's more casual dating.
00:08:45.040 And I would think that casual dating most of the time is happier.
00:08:47.680 A lot of marriages end up sexless.
00:08:48.960 A lot of marriages end up miserable.
00:08:50.560 If you could pick and choose when to spend time, that means that the time you spend together is
00:08:53.600 going to be ultra quality because you want to show you want to show your best self.
00:08:56.320 You want to be meaningful early on in a relationship.
00:08:58.320 People always dress up nice.
00:08:59.440 They put a nice cologne.
00:09:00.480 You should have the best talking points.
00:09:01.840 You try to entertain each other.
00:09:02.960 You're trying to make each other as happy as possible because you want to impress them.
00:09:05.680 Yeah, it's a honeymoon phase.
00:09:06.960 It's smoke and mirrors.
00:09:08.000 Why?
00:09:08.320 Why would you give up the honeymoon phase?
00:09:09.760 You should try to keep upkeep that as much as possible.
00:09:11.680 If you can upkeep that 30 years down the line, that's going to be a happier marriage
00:09:14.800 than two people who are just annoyed by their presence.
00:09:16.800 Is that possible?
00:09:17.920 I think you necessarily have to be annoyed with the person.
00:09:22.000 I was in a relationship for eight years and six years I was living with my men.
00:09:27.280 And sometimes, yeah, we were like all of each other faces and it was annoying.
00:09:32.480 But most of the times we get to know each other, like our default, like, I don't know.
00:09:37.840 I feel like it's more real when you can see the bad, the ugly, and then you appreciate more
00:09:43.920 the beautiful.
00:09:44.400 I think when you do the casual dating, you're not meeting the person.
00:09:47.680 You're only seeing the representative, right?
00:09:49.600 When you do casual dating, you're seeing the person at the...
00:09:51.440 You're not even really seeing them.
00:09:52.560 They could be putting on a front.
00:09:53.440 That's true.
00:09:53.680 But when you live with somebody, like you said, like outside of all the flashy cologne and the
00:09:56.800 dresses and everything, you get to see the person really is.
00:09:58.880 And if you want to fall in love with somebody, I think you need that part more than just like
00:10:01.920 You are living with her for a period of time.
00:10:03.040 It's just that it's segmented.
00:10:04.080 It's like, okay, three days I spent with her.
00:10:06.160 Boom.
00:10:06.400 Now I'm going to go home and have my space.
00:10:07.840 You are living with her and seeing that side, it might take you, you know, you would have
00:10:10.400 been able to find maybe certain things in, uh, you know, two months that you would have
00:10:13.520 taken you maybe seven or eight months living together every single day.
00:10:16.080 But you still find these traits out and still get to know the person.
00:10:18.400 But the main reason why I say guys need to live in a separate location isn't
00:10:22.080 necessarily for the woman.
00:10:23.600 It's for the guy.
00:10:24.640 Yeah, but why not find a woman that like synergizes with you, that can help you, that can build
00:10:27.840 you up, but you guys work as a partner, as a team, and she's going to drag you down.
00:10:30.320 As a team on what?
00:10:31.360 What are we going to, hold on, what are we going to work on together?
00:10:33.680 Me and my mom?
00:10:34.400 Literally anything.
00:10:35.040 You guys can do health stuff together.
00:10:36.480 You can do meals together.
00:10:37.360 You can go out and have fun together.
00:10:38.480 You can watch TV shows together.
00:10:39.520 You can work on projects together.
00:10:40.240 So we can go out together.
00:10:41.200 I don't want to cook with her.
00:10:42.240 Why would you want to do that?
00:10:43.280 Because it's fun as fuck.
00:10:44.240 What do you mean?
00:10:44.560 That's a super fun activity.
00:10:45.280 Cooking is fun?
00:10:46.080 With a significant other, anything can be fun.
00:10:47.440 Yeah.
00:10:47.840 Everything becomes fun when you're with somebody that you love, so like watching a boring
00:10:53.840 ass movie can be super like entertaining with someone that you love.
00:10:57.200 Okay.
00:10:57.440 Okay.
00:10:57.680 Look, look, look, ladies.
00:10:58.480 So the re, cause you guys keep looking at it from a female perspective, right?
00:11:01.920 Of like, Hey, I get to be on my man, et cetera.
00:11:03.920 And you guys are looking at it from there.
00:11:04.960 But the reason why I'm saying to, and I'm advising men, by the way, why they shouldn't
00:11:08.880 do it is because men typically become lazy when they live with their girl.
00:11:12.560 And what I mean by that is they don't have the same sharpness that they used to have
00:11:15.920 when they attracted the girl in the first place.
00:11:17.600 They're not as diligent about the gym.
00:11:18.720 A lot of the times they start to get lazy.
00:11:20.720 They don't work as hard as they used to, et cetera, because women are very comforting,
00:11:23.840 right?
00:11:24.400 And on top of that, let's be a thousand women are inherently lazy in general.
00:11:27.520 So they're going to go ahead and encourage you to be lazy.
00:11:29.840 Oh no.
00:11:30.320 Stay inside and hang out with me.
00:11:31.760 Let's have some ice cream.
00:11:33.040 Let's watch a movie, blah, blah, blah.
00:11:34.480 So I don't want guys right to live in an environment that's too comfortable, right?
00:11:38.800 AKA their girl and get soft.
00:11:41.040 I want guys to stay sharp, to be the man that she fell in love with in the first place.
00:11:44.800 And you're going to maintain that edge and that sharpness by not living with her.
00:11:47.920 Right.
00:11:48.080 Not only would I disagree, I would actually use, I'd use a stat earlier, actually,
00:11:51.040 that I think actually contradicts that.
00:11:52.320 I think in some ways women can keep men sharper.
00:11:54.160 One of the things you brought up that was only one of the points that was true about men doing
00:11:57.440 worse after divorce is that when men get married through all facets of life,
00:12:01.760 they tend to commit less crime.
00:12:02.960 And as soon as a man gets divorced, the likelihood for him to do more crime starts to increase
00:12:06.800 again because they don't have anybody like a stable environment holding them down.
00:12:08.800 So you should have good friends around you.
00:12:10.320 You should have iron sharpens iron.
00:12:11.680 Iron does not get sharpened by a feather and women are feathers.
00:12:13.600 The relationship, now I can't speak for you because I don't know if you do gay relationships.
00:12:16.480 I don't, so I don't have experience with that.
00:12:17.440 You said you do.
00:12:18.000 The way I don't, I don't date men.
00:12:19.280 Now, if you're dating a man, it might be like that, but the relationship that you have,
00:12:23.280 the relationship that you have with a woman when you're dating a woman is
00:12:25.280 different than the relationship you have with your bros when you're with bros.
00:12:27.680 Your woman should be arguably more invested with you and in you than any of your guy friends are
00:12:31.920 because they don't have to live with you.
00:12:32.560 They're not building a life with you.
00:12:33.520 They're just being a friend to you.
00:12:34.560 You can be friends with guys that do crazy fucking shit.
00:12:37.360 Your friend can become an alcoholic.
00:12:38.640 You can ruin his fucking life because you're just friends.
00:12:40.000 Don't be friends with them.
00:12:40.560 Yeah, that's fine.
00:12:40.960 But I'm saying, but with a woman,
00:12:41.840 she's invested in your success as much as you should be invested in your success.
00:12:44.480 She can still be an asset though, just living somewhere else.
00:12:46.880 Yeah.
00:12:47.280 But that doesn't have to be with me.
00:12:48.480 So then why can't she be your best friend?
00:12:50.080 And then once again, adding to that as well, let's say I live with a woman, right?
00:12:53.200 We can see each other all the time.
00:12:55.040 It's going to become boring.
00:12:56.160 If it's time away, then she can miss me and want me more.
00:12:59.120 And it's meaningful.
00:12:59.760 But I agree in this sense.
00:13:02.560 I agree in the sense of like before marriage.
00:13:05.040 Yes, I agree with that.
00:13:06.240 Yeah.
00:13:06.800 Once you're married and you have children and you're building a family dynamic.
00:13:11.120 Do I want my husband going in and out my kids lives because he needs space for three days?
00:13:15.840 No, he's not going anywhere.
00:13:18.240 Living in a separate house.
00:13:19.520 Like, like, I don't agree with that in a marriage.
00:13:22.720 What's the difference if he's working or he's overseas working?
00:13:25.680 Like, he's a high businessman.
00:13:26.800 Like, he's not going to be there all the time.
00:13:27.520 Because he's not overseas working.
00:13:28.560 He's living in a house down the street.
00:13:29.840 He's living in a house down the street.
00:13:31.360 And my dad is a lawyer and he went on business trips and he had to travel a lot.
00:13:35.760 He did not have a separate house down the street from my family home.
00:13:39.520 He was a very present, active dad that still handled business and was a provider and did everything.
00:13:44.480 I mean, he could do the same thing, just not live there.
00:13:46.880 Your dad went away, right?
00:13:47.920 To travel for a couple of days.
00:13:49.200 He wasn't there all the time.
00:13:50.400 Yeah, but he was on business, not, oh, my dad had to leave the house and go down the street for three days because he needed space.
00:13:56.960 Well, once again, the same scenario there, he's not there.
00:13:59.680 However, the context is different.
00:14:01.040 Because he's working to make money to pay for our lives.
00:14:04.400 I'm sure he's working our lives.
00:14:04.960 That's what you tell the kids.
00:14:05.760 You don't tell them he lives in a separate house.
00:14:07.520 Like, he's smart.
00:14:07.920 Why would you lie to your kids about your dad having to leave the house because he just needs three days of space for mom every week?
00:14:13.360 I mean, if your kids are four years old and they hear you upstairs, you know, doing what adults do.
00:14:17.600 Are you going to tell them?
00:14:18.160 Oh, yeah, we were fucking.
00:14:19.120 No, you're going to lie.
00:14:20.160 Oh, mommy and daddy were playing a game.
00:14:23.120 Okay.
00:14:23.440 And then not even to mention, the biggest thing here is nobody would trust a guy not to cheat if that was the rancher as well.
00:14:28.480 Right.
00:14:28.640 Like if your guy's leaving for three or four days at a time and then you come back.
00:14:31.360 It's easy.
00:14:31.680 Like, I, I, I can't see any long term relationship ever working out that way.
00:14:34.800 That's just not in my mind.
00:14:35.840 You're looking at it in a monogamous sense.
00:14:37.120 This is the best way that a man is going to be able to upkeep his masculinity.
00:14:40.160 This is the way that he's iron sharpens iron.
00:14:42.000 And you asked, like, what is the team that you're talking about with a man and a wife?
00:14:45.120 And you said watching TV together, cooking together.
00:14:47.760 You said a bunch of feminine activities.
00:14:49.200 And right now, all the women are agreeing with you, but they also disagreed with being in a relationship with you.
00:14:53.120 They said they wouldn't want to be with the bisexual guy.
00:14:54.800 I'm not trying to date any of the women here.
00:14:56.320 Number one, I don't care about dating.
00:14:57.520 Okay, but they agree with their relationship ideas, but they don't agree with.
00:15:00.400 Number two, the way that you guys describe things is like doing fun things to significant others.
00:15:04.560 Being feminine is like the, again, the gayest shit I've ever heard in my life.
00:15:07.520 Why would spending time with your girlfriend or wife be feminine?
00:15:10.720 You can spend time with, but I want to do things that are actually fun to me.
00:15:13.360 Cooking is not fun to me.
00:15:14.320 Watching TV and watching Netflix with Booby Bear, cuddling.
00:15:16.400 Okay, what are fun things to you?
00:15:17.520 What is fun to you?
00:15:19.360 Maybe we can go skydiving.
00:15:20.400 Maybe we can go camel riding.
00:15:21.760 You can do that with girls.
00:15:24.640 We can do that living in separate homes.
00:15:27.280 Yeah, but why do you while living in the same house too?
00:15:30.160 Why can't your woman be your best friend also?
00:15:32.000 Why can't she encourage you?
00:15:33.120 Women and men are never going to be friends the same way that men are going to be friends.
00:15:35.360 What if she likes guy stuff too though?
00:15:37.040 Like what if she likes video games?
00:15:38.320 I like anime, I like video games.
00:15:39.920 You said you don't want to be a guy that sucks dick and now you want a guy who's gay?
00:15:42.160 Who's video gay?
00:15:42.960 What's gay about playing video games?
00:15:44.160 How do we think of your partner?
00:15:45.200 Yeah, I like all that stuff.
00:15:46.160 You want a game with your husband?
00:15:47.680 Yes, I like games.
00:15:49.120 You want a bisexual guy.
00:15:50.240 No, I don't.
00:15:50.960 So how many of you here, right, know someone that's married?
00:15:54.240 Raise your hand.
00:15:54.800 I'm sorry, what was your question?
00:15:55.840 You know someone that's married, personally?
00:15:57.360 Yes.
00:15:57.920 Are they truly happy?
00:15:59.040 Yeah.
00:16:00.000 No.
00:16:00.240 Yeah.
00:16:00.640 No, no.
00:16:01.280 Be honest, are they really happy living together?
00:16:03.600 No.
00:16:03.760 My parents are literally high school sweethearts and they are actually happy.
00:16:07.600 Okay, anybody else?
00:16:08.720 Yes.
00:16:09.200 My aunt and uncle are also high school sweethearts.
00:16:11.280 They actually are happy.
00:16:12.320 Anybody else?
00:16:12.880 Yeah.
00:16:13.440 Like, I was raised around very healthy marriages.
00:16:16.480 Okay, outside of your family.
00:16:17.680 Anybody else?
00:16:18.720 All of my friends, my parents, I grew up around, same thing.
00:16:22.160 Still married today.
00:16:22.960 Happy as hell.
00:16:23.520 Still married today.
00:16:24.240 Still happy.
00:16:24.720 30 plus years, yes.
00:16:26.240 I would argue that they argue multiple times a month.
00:16:30.400 And ultimately speaking-
00:16:31.280 Conflict is actually healthy.
00:16:32.320 That's part of a relationship.
00:16:34.160 But stepping away and come back to that person is even better because-
00:16:37.760 That's not better.
00:16:38.240 That's the worst thing in the world.
00:16:39.280 It shows you can't even resolve conflict.
00:16:40.320 Not in marriage.
00:16:41.280 Not in marriage.
00:16:41.760 If you had a partner and you're like, listen, we're fighting.
00:16:43.600 I'm leaving for three days and I'll come back.
00:16:44.960 That's like the worst thing you could do.
00:16:46.160 Can I make an ad?
00:16:46.640 There's a difference between like avoidance and blowing off like steam, right?
00:16:49.840 Hold on, hold on.
00:16:50.320 Destiny, can I make an ad hominem?
00:16:52.000 Is it about sucking dick again?
00:16:53.120 No, it's not.
00:16:53.840 But you don't live with your wife all the time.
00:16:55.440 I literally do.
00:16:56.400 No, you don't.
00:16:57.040 We travel sometimes.
00:16:58.000 We live together like 95% of the time.
00:16:59.520 Yeah, we travel every place.
00:17:00.480 Doesn't you have an apartment in Austin?
00:17:02.160 Yeah, that she goes to like, I think she's been there like two weeks of the past year.
00:17:05.200 But I went with her last time.
00:17:06.240 We live together.
00:17:06.880 She just told me that she went to Hawaii with like.
00:17:09.360 Yeah, she was in Hawaii for a week too.
00:17:10.480 And I traveled too.
00:17:11.040 But we live together.
00:17:11.840 We don't have separate houses.
00:17:12.880 Listen, nobody here, like she said with her dad, sometimes people travel.
00:17:15.520 That's fine.
00:17:16.080 But when we're both at home, why would I want to live apart from my wife?
00:17:19.040 I love being with her.
00:17:19.760 I like spending time with her.
00:17:20.320 I like waking up in the morning.
00:17:21.680 I like drinking coffee with her.
00:17:22.480 I like hanging on the bathroom.
00:17:23.120 But you get fed up with her eventually.
00:17:24.240 And then you go your separate ways.
00:17:25.200 No, no, no, no.
00:17:25.760 I don't get fed up with her.
00:17:26.800 There are just things I like to do with other people too.
00:17:28.240 But I'm never like, I'm sick of you.
00:17:29.840 I need to get away from you.
00:17:30.720 But that's kind of what it is.
00:17:32.160 And Fresh's ultimate point.
00:17:33.200 That's not what it is at all.
00:17:34.080 If you spend 100% of your time with your significant other,
00:17:36.400 you're both going to bring each other down.
00:17:38.000 Then you end up relying on each other.
00:17:39.280 You get complacent.
00:17:40.080 You get too comfortable.
00:17:40.720 This is true.
00:17:41.440 100% of the time versus living in a separate house,
00:17:43.600 the two totally different things.
00:17:45.040 You can be together in a house and not be crowding each other all the time.
00:17:49.040 But a lot of times when Mel is at her corner of the house,
00:17:50.560 and I'm at my corner of the house doing emails, doing work,
00:17:52.000 and she's like working on her fucking Instagram and shit, right?
00:17:53.920 There are times when we're working on different things.
00:17:55.040 We're not crowding each other.
00:17:56.080 Like you can do that in the same house as possible.
00:17:57.920 Here's the thing.
00:17:58.800 Yeah.
00:17:59.120 There's three main reasons why I think you need to live a park.
00:18:01.760 Always with the list.
00:18:02.480 It's, yeah, well, you got to be able to outline that.
00:18:04.720 Is this real nice or not?
00:18:05.920 Yeah.
00:18:06.320 So number one, like I said before, it keeps the guy sharp, right?
00:18:09.680 Like he's going to be, he's going to fucking, he's going to stay sharp.
00:18:12.720 Number two, it promotes productivity.
00:18:14.160 And then number three, which is going to be kind of toxic.
00:18:17.280 It keeps the girl guessing.
00:18:18.320 Like here's the thing with women, right?
00:18:19.760 Women, once they get bored with you, that's the beginning of the end.
00:18:23.280 And when she doesn't necessarily know what you're up to all the time,
00:18:25.600 keeps her mind racing.
00:18:26.640 She's like, what's he doing?
00:18:27.440 Blah, blah, blah.
00:18:28.160 And I've always said it.
00:18:28.880 A woman's imagination is your best friend.
00:18:30.800 Being too available for being able to see what you're doing all the time.
00:18:33.520 It makes you less attractive to her because men and women are different.
00:18:36.720 But this also, like women need to feel like they're getting the best
00:18:40.880 man that they can get and they can't have them all the time.
00:18:43.040 It sucks.
00:18:43.600 But that's a necessary component for women to be attracted and aroused by you.
00:18:46.880 So again, I get where you guys are saying like, hey, for the relationship,
00:18:50.320 what the girl wants, blah, blah.
00:18:51.280 But I'm speaking from the male perspective.
00:18:53.120 How you maintain attraction in the relationship is to not always be available.
00:18:56.560 And that's the other biggest thing, too, is when she doesn't know where you're at all the time,
00:18:59.520 it has her mind racing, which is to your benefit.
00:19:01.600 You say that.
00:19:02.640 And I think in some really weird, hyper red pill world, that might be true with some women.
00:19:06.240 But the reality is, listen, you thought you were a fucking federal investigator.
00:19:10.000 A woman that is suspicious is the like most keen, crazy fucking investigator in the world.
00:19:13.680 Of course.
00:19:13.840 She's going to be driving outside your apartment.
00:19:15.280 She's going to have like a second cell phone with a SIM card.
00:19:17.280 Why the fuck would you want a relationship like that?
00:19:19.600 Hold on, hold on.
00:19:20.240 But if she's invested, right, and doing all that, what does that mean?
00:19:22.640 That means your relationship fucking sucks.
00:19:24.400 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:19:25.600 That's the worst relationship ever.
00:19:26.320 That's not at all.
00:19:27.280 When a girl is chasing you, that's what I want.
00:19:30.720 I want the woman to be chasing the guy.
00:19:32.400 That's a psycho, that's a psychopath.
00:19:34.720 Because women, hold on, hold on.
00:19:35.920 When women are chasing your validation, and they're stalking you, and they're making all
00:19:38.640 these investments, that means they, number one, love you.
00:19:41.200 Number two, they care.
00:19:42.080 And number three, they're less likely to do bullshit and go off with another guy because
00:19:45.120 she's too busy chasing your validation.
00:19:46.400 Yeah, but then you're going to be like DJ acting in the lobby with a girl,
00:19:49.040 like you're hitting another girl, like you're talking to somebody.
00:19:51.520 My point is, I want the man to maintain the leverage where the girl likes him more than
00:19:55.440 she likes, more than he likes her.
00:19:56.720 And the reason for that, even though girls might hear, might say that's toxic, is because
00:20:00.320 women have so many options nowadays.
00:20:01.760 The only way that you can circumvent female hypergamy and them having all these options
00:20:05.040 is you need, she needs to like you more than you like her.
00:20:07.680 That's what it is.
00:20:08.320 That's, that's when women are the happiest, when they feel like they got the prize.
00:20:10.880 Yeah.
00:20:11.280 And for you to feel that way, you have to exemplify traits and be not living with her
00:20:14.880 allows you to have that air of mystery.
00:20:16.400 I don't think most of them would like it, but yeah,
00:20:17.760 I think that it's called playing games.
00:20:20.480 Yeah.
00:20:20.880 Like you want her to be crazy about you.
00:20:23.440 Why don't you want her to?
00:20:24.720 Okay.
00:20:24.960 So men wants women to bring them peace, right?
00:20:27.520 So why can't you bring?
00:20:28.400 Okay.
00:20:28.640 So you said playing games, right?
00:20:29.680 Yeah.
00:20:30.240 Here's the thing that sucks.
00:20:32.720 See, I wish we could be honest with women.
00:20:34.720 But the thing with women is that you guys are attracted to toxic things.
00:20:37.760 No.
00:20:38.560 Oh, really?
00:20:40.880 What's the highest selling book for females?
00:20:42.880 For females.
00:20:43.520 I'm a woman.
00:20:44.240 Fifty Shades of Grey.
00:20:45.760 Yeah.
00:20:46.320 You are a female.
00:20:47.040 But it's a fantasy.
00:20:47.680 Everybody has fantasy.
00:20:48.800 That does not have a way.
00:20:50.880 No, no, no, hold on, hold on.
00:20:52.000 Why is Fifty Shades of Grey the most popular female book?
00:20:54.560 Because girls love to be dominated.
00:20:56.960 Oh, okay.
00:20:58.240 No, hold on, hold on.
00:20:58.960 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:20:59.600 We forgot some other things.
00:21:00.160 No, but it's only sexual.
00:21:01.040 It's not sexual in a relationship.
00:21:04.160 It's two different things.
00:21:05.040 Yeah, but that's how you maintain sexual attraction in the relationship is you have to have the things
00:21:08.800 that Christian Grey has.
00:21:10.000 Dominant, assertive, successful.
00:21:12.160 He's the one running the relationship.
00:21:13.440 She likes him more than he likes her.
00:21:14.560 Women find these things attractive, right?
00:21:16.800 Right.
00:21:17.040 Universally.
00:21:17.520 Yeah, okay.
00:21:18.160 Maybe some women are not at all.
00:21:19.520 I get it that you guys might say, I don't like this.
00:21:20.160 It's toxic or blah, blah, blah.
00:21:21.760 But the reality is you're aroused and attracted to it.
00:21:24.000 And that's what I'm telling guys to be.
00:21:25.440 Because being a nice guy, you know, being with your girl all the time, always being available,
00:21:29.600 it's not attractive.
00:21:30.320 Okay.
00:21:30.480 Okay.
00:21:30.880 Can I tell you something?
00:21:32.480 Yeah, sure.
00:21:32.800 Okay.
00:21:33.040 So, for example, I like boring, nice guy.
00:21:37.040 I don't like...
00:21:39.360 I do.
00:21:39.840 I don't like bad guys.
00:21:40.960 I don't like...
00:21:41.920 You were in a relationship for eight years living with them.
00:21:43.760 Eight years.
00:21:43.840 What happened?
00:21:44.240 Yeah.
00:21:44.560 Oh my God.
00:21:45.600 Do you want me to tell you why we broke up?
00:21:47.920 It's pretty personal, but it was pretty much my fault.
00:21:52.000 I was pretty...
00:21:53.200 I had a...
00:21:54.560 I was pretty toxic at some point.
00:21:56.160 So you had a nice guy and you didn't like it.
00:21:57.600 No, that's not what happened.
00:21:59.520 What, you cheated?
00:22:00.160 So why are we toxic?
00:22:00.800 No, I didn't cheat.
00:22:01.600 He was nice.
00:22:02.080 So why are you toxic?
00:22:02.960 Okay, so not to give out all the story, but...
00:22:06.960 We...
00:22:08.160 No, but...
00:22:10.000 I had a phase in my life when I was a little bit toxic.
00:22:13.680 She belongs to the streets.
00:22:14.800 Don't say that.
00:22:16.720 Wait, it's funny.
00:22:17.600 You just said that you don't want toxic, that you want something calm.
00:22:20.000 I was with him.
00:22:20.640 You had a calm relationship and you started being toxic.
00:22:22.640 There's more to a relationship than just whether or not they're calm.
00:22:25.040 I was with him for eight years, so it was a roller coaster.
00:22:29.840 You know, it's not always perfect, but I was with him for eight years.
00:22:33.760 I loved him for eight years.
00:22:35.360 What did you do that was toxic?
00:22:36.560 What did I do that was toxic?
00:22:38.560 I don't want to go into that.
00:22:40.000 Okay, but basically women like drama.
00:22:42.160 Women really like drama.
00:22:43.920 Women need to be emotionally involved.
00:22:46.000 They need to be invested like they're watching a drama movie.
00:22:48.800 Yeah, but this is how you approach high school relationships and how you approach healthy,
00:22:52.720 long-term relationships.
00:22:53.440 She's a short-ass woman.
00:22:54.240 What happened?
00:22:54.640 Yeah, she was probably the longest relationship with this entire table.
00:22:58.880 Like...
00:22:59.280 It was deep.
00:22:59.920 It was a really deep stuff, family stuff.
00:23:02.720 It was like a big deal.
00:23:03.680 So it was...
00:23:04.560 I'm not going to explain and go into detail, but it was a valid reason.
00:23:08.960 But it was not like I was looking for drama.
00:23:10.800 It was like...
00:23:11.280 You said you were toxic.
00:23:13.280 Yeah, yeah, but sometimes stuff happened, you know?
00:23:15.920 So...
00:23:16.480 Well, I don't think that would have happened if he was living in a different place and
00:23:18.800 you weren't getting his attention all the time.
00:23:20.160 You probably would not have acted so toxic.
00:23:21.760 You probably started acting toxic because you got bored.
00:23:24.320 You got bored.
00:23:24.880 You needed some emotional involvement.
00:23:27.760 No, that's not true.
00:23:28.880 I started acting toxic because of my trauma, some stuff that happened.
00:23:32.240 Sometimes I do some stuff.
00:23:34.000 Emotional damage.
00:23:36.160 Sometimes I do some stuff, but everybody has their trauma.
00:23:41.200 Everybody reacts.
00:23:42.480 Everybody gets triggered and like...
00:23:44.640 So let me get it straight.
00:23:45.520 You had a nice guy that was there for you, cared for you.
00:23:47.840 Yeah.
00:23:48.160 And all of a sudden...
00:23:48.800 I was living with him.
00:23:49.680 I loved him.
00:23:50.720 He loved me.
00:23:52.080 Yeah, all of a sudden...
00:23:53.840 But it was...
00:23:54.480 No, but it was eight years.
00:23:56.640 You cannot say that.
00:23:57.760 Eight years of a good relationship.
00:23:59.120 Eight years of a nice guy.
00:24:00.000 Living together.
00:24:00.880 Randomly this traumatized feelings, this trauma came out of nowhere.
00:24:04.160 You got triggered.
00:24:04.880 Randomly.
00:24:05.280 Nothing that he did.
00:24:06.480 Nothing.
00:24:06.960 And then you ruined the relationship.
00:24:08.320 Okay, so some stuff that he was doing was triggering me into some...
00:24:11.680 What?
00:24:11.920 He got caught too hard?
00:24:12.880 I thought he was peaceful.
00:24:15.360 I don't want to go into detail because I respect that.
00:24:18.560 That's fine.
00:24:18.960 You don't have to go into detail.
00:24:19.920 My point is this.
00:24:20.720 Nice guys...
00:24:21.440 There's a reason why they say nice guys finish last.
00:24:23.680 Not always being available makes you more attractive.
00:24:26.080 That's just...
00:24:26.560 That's not true.
00:24:27.280 I'm with a nice guy right now, and I've literally left every toxic guy because they were toxic.
00:24:32.160 I come from a family that isn't the healthiest, so I want something that's healthy.
00:24:36.480 Okay, look.
00:24:36.960 You do realize that your own personal experiences don't necessarily reflect the realities of the world?
00:24:41.120 How can you say that?
00:24:43.600 We can't correlate it to the reality of the world.
00:24:45.920 Just because you're saying you like nice guys doesn't mean that a majority of women like nice guys.
00:24:49.200 So then I'm different.
00:24:50.000 Okay.
00:24:50.400 So then that means women can be different.
00:24:51.600 Congratulations.
00:24:51.680 You might be an exception to the rule, but a lot of women don't like nice guys and punish nice guys.
00:24:55.600 Okay, so who likes nice guys at the table?
00:24:57.600 Okay, just asking who likes nice guys at the table?
00:24:59.600 Raise your hand.
00:25:00.560 None of you guys said you wanted a guy who sucks dick.
00:25:02.160 My boyfriend's a nice guy.
00:25:03.040 That doesn't mean it's the same thing.
00:25:05.760 That's the furthest nice guy pill.
00:25:08.080 I have a question.
00:25:09.040 I like nice guys.
00:25:09.360 There's a reason why nice guys finish last has stood the test of time,
00:25:12.160 and it's a saying because women punish men that pedestalize them.
00:25:14.960 That's the point.
00:25:15.600 Just because you don't punish your guy for pedestalizing you doesn't mean that a majority of women aren't.
00:25:19.440 Okay, that's fair.
00:25:19.920 Nice guys finish last is a saying that simps use to try to justify why they don't have a woman.
00:25:24.240 You could be a nice guy.
00:25:25.040 No, they're not.
00:25:26.720 They're losers usually.
00:25:27.840 Yeah.
00:25:28.080 And they're people that are nice.
00:25:29.120 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:25:30.240 There's nothing nice about being a clingy, desperate loser.
00:25:33.120 I agree.
00:25:33.840 They're nice guys to women.
00:25:35.200 No, no, no, they're not nice.
00:25:36.160 Women don't like that.
00:25:36.720 They're actually very annoying.
00:25:37.760 They're super annoying.
00:25:38.640 Nobody likes that.
00:25:39.440 I definitely agree.
00:25:40.320 So they're nice guys for a reason.
00:25:41.680 They want to smash without saying it directly.
00:25:43.920 That's why they're nice.
00:25:44.800 Which is because they're a simps.
00:25:46.160 So they're being fake nice.
00:25:47.680 Yes, yes.
00:25:48.640 But actual nice guys do pretty well.
00:25:50.560 Kind of is.
00:25:50.960 Because most people like being respected.
00:25:52.560 I agree.
00:25:53.840 But that's what the phrase is about though.
00:25:55.040 That is what the phrase is about.
00:25:55.920 When people say, anytime you hear a guy be like, nice guys, finish last.
00:25:58.800 It's usually some loser that's creepy, clingy, and has nothing going on for them.
00:26:02.720 Listen, bro.
00:26:03.200 I'm a nice guy.
00:26:04.480 But I have an edge to me, which means to be not as nice.
00:26:06.880 Sure.
00:26:07.280 You're saying simps are nice guys.
00:26:09.920 Right?
00:26:10.160 I'm saying that nice guys finish last is not necessarily true.
00:26:12.800 Yeah.
00:26:13.200 People like people that, when people say, here's a saying that people say, women like assholes.
00:26:16.640 No, they don't.
00:26:17.200 They like guys that can be confident and aggressive, but it doesn't even have to be a dick.
00:26:20.560 Right?
00:26:20.880 Like I can tell like an edgy joke to a woman where I joke about like a dress or something.
00:26:24.480 That's going to hit a lot differently calling one fat and old.
00:26:26.720 Right?
00:26:27.200 Yeah.
00:26:27.280 One of those is like aggressive and confident and edgy.
00:26:29.280 And it was just fucking me.
00:26:30.160 Nobody wants to be an actual asshole.
00:26:31.680 That's not like a fun experience.
00:26:32.880 You just want to be something that's confident has an edge to them.
00:26:34.800 Yeah.
00:26:35.120 You have a better, you have a better chance being a not being a dick than being a nice
00:26:39.200 guy is the point.
00:26:39.680 If we have to go off two extremes, the point is this, this is the bottom line.
00:26:42.400 Don't pedestalize women.
00:26:43.520 Sure.
00:26:43.840 I agree with that.
00:26:44.640 But I don't think literally your wife is pedestalized.
00:26:46.480 Can I just say real quick, spending all your time with your chick is pedestalizing.
00:26:50.880 Can I just say one, one thing I like.
00:26:53.920 Okay.
00:26:54.320 So I get what you guys are saying.
00:26:55.520 Definitely makes sense.
00:26:56.640 Like when you separate with someone, when you're in the heat of an argument and that
00:26:59.760 can diffuse things and it can also cause you to not pedestalize your woman.
00:27:03.440 But should we really be doing that and making these ridiculous, you know, uh, rules like
00:27:07.920 we need to live separately versus just learning how to personally develop ourselves to have
00:27:11.440 these conversations in our relationships and actually work through these hardships and difficult
00:27:15.520 times versus needing to literally vacate and go to a whole separate place just to diffuse
00:27:21.040 the tension or not.
00:27:22.080 Like, isn't this something that we can learn intrinsically just one-on-one in relationships?
00:27:26.720 A lot of those conversations are just for the women.
00:27:29.120 It's for women to talk it out because she's feeling emotional so that you can bring the
00:27:32.240 man down to an emotional level.
00:27:33.680 That's going to make me more beta.
00:27:36.480 It's going to make me, my energy is going to be lower.
00:27:39.120 I'm going to be at your level.
00:27:40.240 You're going to cry.
00:27:40.960 I'm going to have to talk it out.
00:27:41.920 We're going to watch a thing.
00:27:42.640 We're going to cuddle and that's, I'm not going to be at my perfect self.
00:27:48.080 I'm going to be gay.
00:27:48.720 I don't want to be gay.
00:27:50.800 I'd rather be at my, I'm not being able to talk to women, not being able to live with
00:27:54.320 women like this is what you're talking about.
00:27:57.120 You're describing gay.
00:27:58.240 I want to be, I want to be able to talk to my woman, but a lot of those conversations
00:28:03.520 that you're talking about where you need to get to know them all the time, you want to
00:28:05.840 see the good and the bad.
00:28:06.960 I want to see all, I want to see the real you.
00:28:08.960 I don't want to see all the bad stuff.
00:28:10.640 I want to know about it, but why do I have to deal with that?
00:28:12.800 A good relationship is about putting your best foot forward at all times and making
00:28:16.080 each other happier.
00:28:17.600 Hold up.
00:28:17.920 Why does love for a lot of these people equate to being, showing your bad stuff too, crying
00:28:23.120 all the time, arguing.
00:28:24.160 That's the real, no, it doesn't have to be that.
00:28:26.000 Why can't we just put our best foot forward at all times?
00:28:28.000 You don't do that in every relationship.
00:28:30.400 You don't do that with your friendships either.
00:28:31.520 You don't do that with your family.
00:28:32.240 Ideally you do.
00:28:33.040 No, absolutely not.
00:28:34.240 That's the most ideal friendship.
00:28:35.200 Friends are supposed to be there for you when you're down too.
00:28:37.280 Not just like only my best foot forward, right?
00:28:39.360 Okay, look, look, look.
00:28:40.560 This is going to end all.
00:28:41.520 The bottom line is this simply, why you should not live with your girl.
00:28:44.960 It makes you more attractive as a man, period.
00:28:47.600 None of y'all can argue that because you're working on yourself.
00:28:50.320 You're busy.
00:28:51.040 You're not always available.
00:28:52.160 These are things that are inherently attractive.
00:28:54.240 So therefore you will be more attractive to your girl, even though she doesn't like it.
00:28:57.680 That's the bottom line.
00:28:58.560 Why you should not live with the girl.
00:28:59.520 It's not from the female perspective.
00:29:00.880 It's from the male perspective, but you being a more attractive mate, not always being available.
00:29:04.800 All right.
00:29:06.000 At a deeper level, as a man, we're on YouTube and Rumble guys.
00:29:10.800 Come on over.
00:29:11.200 Let's say we argue, right?
00:29:12.320 And we become at odds.
00:29:14.400 And you say, you know what?
00:29:15.360 Fuck this nigga.
00:29:16.080 I'm going to call the police and say that he hit me.
00:29:18.000 Guess what?
00:29:19.040 Now I'm on the house and you can stay in the house for free.
00:29:21.840 So ultimately speaking, it could be in a man's not best interest to live with you because
00:29:25.520 you can mess him up at any point in time.
00:29:27.040 But that's with a toxic girl that would call the police.
00:29:30.000 Toxic has multiple meanings and what she's saying is that she's more so talking about
00:29:40.240 is that sometimes you develop self-sabotaging behavior and you become aware of it and you
00:29:50.000 try to heal and grow and learn.
00:29:52.240 So now the next time that she comes into a serious relationship, she'll be more aware
00:29:57.600 of those things that trigger her and she'll be able to better move through those feelings.
00:30:00.720 But wait, time out.
00:30:03.120 What I wanted to say before was that you yourself said, oh, you can't apply this standard to
00:30:08.960 the world universally.
00:30:10.320 But then here you are trying to apply standards universally to all women.
00:30:13.440 So that's a neutral perspective.
00:30:15.200 You cannot apply universal things.
00:30:19.120 The bottom line is that I will have my dating preferences and I will have my standards and
00:30:23.680 I will have my expectations.
00:30:25.120 And the girl next to me might have completely different ones.
00:30:27.440 The man across you might have completely different ones.
00:30:29.680 We don't need to compare and contrast.
00:30:31.760 I'm going to look for somebody that aligns with my sets, whatever they are.
00:30:36.000 You're going to look for somebody that aligns with yours.
00:30:37.840 And we're both going to live full, happy lives.
00:30:40.720 Like there's the debate and the argument of like you trying to get people to agree.
00:30:45.440 Like what we're trying to agree on is not going to ever be agreeable because we're all
00:30:50.000 different people.
00:30:51.680 So it's like you're applying universal thinking.
00:30:54.320 Yeah, but there are things that women are universally attracted to and not being available
00:30:57.920 is definitely one of them.
00:30:59.280 There is a difference between like when you open a relationship versus like when you're
00:31:04.960 married, right?
00:31:05.920 Like if you're, for instance, if you're like just getting to know a girl, even all agree
00:31:09.280 that there are certain things you could keep in mind.
00:31:10.720 So for instance, not responding to her text immediately or some shit like that, there are
00:31:13.680 some games you could play that might be understandable to make it so more desirable.
00:31:16.640 But at this point, like if I text my wife or she texts me, we have to respond instantly.
00:31:19.680 Why the fuck are we playing games with each other?
00:31:20.880 We're fucking married.
00:31:21.440 We're past that shit.
00:31:22.320 Right?
00:31:22.640 I feel like once you get past the early game shit, you should be able to just be open
00:31:25.360 and open and open and open and open and open and open and open and open and open.
00:31:27.760 You got to keep playing it, bro.
00:31:28.880 That's it.
00:31:29.280 See, that's why so many guys get in battle and get divorced.
00:31:31.680 Like, yo, you got to keep playing the game even when you're in the relationship with
00:31:35.120 a girl, because the thing with women is that they're emotional creatures.
00:31:37.280 You got to constantly stimulate their emotions.
00:31:38.720 But that's so true for you, because you always have your guard up.
00:31:41.600 Why don't you get your guard down?
00:31:43.200 If you always play games with a girl, you're like, the reason why men have to play games
00:31:47.440 with women is because women's are the fucking, like, they literally play the games.
00:31:50.960 They start the games.
00:31:53.280 What are the ones that say, oh, I'm not going to text them back, or let me pretend to try
00:31:56.720 hard and not try hard?
00:31:57.280 Some women does that.
00:31:58.160 Some men does that.
00:31:59.120 A lot of women play games.
00:32:00.320 The reason why, yo, I wish we could walk up to girls like, I find you attractive.
00:32:04.720 Let's fornicate.
00:32:05.520 But that would never work, because women don't operate that way.
00:32:08.240 You guys don't operate on direct communication.
00:32:10.000 I wish I could go up to y'all and tell you what I really think, but I can't.
00:32:12.640 I have to play games.
00:32:13.520 I have to pretend like I'm attracted to you.
00:32:14.960 I have to pretend like I'm going to go ahead and care about your fucking problems.
00:32:17.360 I got to take you on three dates.
00:32:18.560 I got to hear your shit, blah, blah, blah.
00:32:20.160 I got to bring you back to my place.
00:32:21.280 Make sure the place is clean.
00:32:22.080 You don't want to do that?
00:32:23.200 It's called being in a relationship.
00:32:24.880 No, no, no, no.
00:32:25.600 It's called dating.
00:32:26.640 What I'm trying to say is that women want the game, so you have to play the game.
00:32:29.680 So the thing is that you got to play the game better than them.
00:32:31.680 And the big part to play the game is to maintain and leverage, make sure she likes you more
00:32:34.800 than you like her, and make sure that you stay attractive.
00:32:36.880 But staying attractive a lot of times comes in from not always being available.
00:32:39.920 That's what I want to ask.
00:32:40.400 Okay, can I ask one question and I'll give you all the floor.
00:32:42.480 Can we go around the table?
00:32:43.200 How many girls here have been in a decently long-term relationship?
00:32:45.360 So we'll say six months plus that have enjoyed having a guy like,
00:32:48.800 fuck with your head like this, where you're like, oh yeah,
00:32:50.720 like he's not responding for a week or whatever.
00:32:52.320 They're not going to admit it, bro.
00:32:53.040 They're not going to admit that, bro.
00:32:54.080 Okay.
00:32:54.480 It's a toxic trait.
00:32:55.680 They're not going to admit it.
00:32:56.880 They're not going to admit it.
00:32:57.680 Who would?
00:32:58.320 I've talked to a lot of women.
00:33:00.000 I've never heard somebody say, yeah, like my boyfriend, he didn't text me back for like
00:33:03.600 three days.
00:33:04.080 And that was just like the best thing.
00:33:05.200 They won't.
00:33:05.680 They won't like that.
00:33:06.240 They won't like that.
00:33:06.880 Especially on camera, they won't say it.
00:33:08.720 Most women are addicted to emotions, so it's a stimulant.
00:33:11.120 What is most women are addicted to emotions?
00:33:12.880 Everybody's addicted to emotions.
00:33:13.920 We're emotional creatures.
00:33:14.880 It's a stimulant because you don't get complacent in it if you're constantly wondering like,
00:33:18.480 damn, does this nigga fuck with me?
00:33:19.280 Okay, that's fine, but if you live your life-
00:33:20.640 That keeps you literally focused on one person instead of getting attention from other people.
00:33:24.960 It doesn't.
00:33:25.280 She'll lose interest.
00:33:26.400 She's not going to stay with you if you play games with it, number one.
00:33:28.240 And number two, the only types of girls that will maintain interest are the girls are going
00:33:31.760 to show up at 6 a.m. slash your tires.
00:33:33.440 That's the type of girls that you're picking for.
00:33:35.920 If you're a man and you have a frame, she's going to respect you and not be that crazy.
00:33:38.400 No, she won't respect you.
00:33:39.360 My man can't even live with me?
00:33:40.560 My man can't even live with me?
00:33:41.760 You think she's going to respect that?
00:33:42.720 That's insane.
00:33:43.200 That's where a frame comes in.
00:33:44.160 What is the frame?
00:33:45.040 If a woman respects you.
00:33:45.760 The frame is I can't be around you for more than four days in a row without like being weak.
00:33:48.640 The frame is his dominance and knowing to put you in your place because
00:33:51.040 What is your place?
00:33:51.840 They're placed in a separate house.
00:33:53.280 If you show up to his fucking house unannounced, he's going to be like, yo, this is done.
00:33:56.640 That's where frame comes in.
00:33:57.680 She understands that you hate her, that you're there to fuck.
00:34:02.400 These are like the most adversarial relationships I've ever heard in my life.
00:34:05.280 What?
00:34:05.840 These relationships are adversarial.
00:34:07.520 Are you serious right now?
00:34:09.040 Yeah.
00:34:09.760 Are you serious right now?
00:34:11.600 Is he serious right now?
00:34:13.040 If you respect somebody, it doesn't matter how crazy you get, you get in your emotions.
00:34:17.040 You aren't going to just pull up to their fucking house with unannounced without their permission,
00:34:21.440 because you're going to know he's going to he's not going to tolerate that.
00:34:24.240 That's what frame is knowing that he's the leader.
00:34:26.560 He's in charge.
00:34:27.360 You don't go over there unless he announced like he tells you to come.
00:34:30.880 Okay.
00:34:31.280 Well, I think in a relationship where two people love each other,
00:34:33.120 I think showing up unannounced can be like a fun surprise sometimes.
00:34:35.440 But I guess you guys like.
00:34:36.160 No, man shows up on a woman.
00:34:38.080 That's the man.
00:34:38.720 That's the serenading.
00:34:39.680 The man shows up on the woman unannounced.
00:34:41.200 It's the woman should never show up on the man unannounced.
00:34:43.200 Okay.
00:34:43.440 Yeah.
00:34:44.000 I'm sorry.
00:34:44.400 That's crazy.
00:34:45.040 And I would say relationships.
00:34:46.640 I mean, if you look at like what men want, first of all, women want, it's inherently adversarial.
00:34:50.880 And the reason why is because men are looking for sex.
00:34:53.040 Women are looking for resources, time and attention.
00:34:54.880 And it's a dance between the two genders to get the other commodity from the other
00:34:58.640 without giving up there.
00:34:59.520 So, for example.
00:35:00.080 That's not even true, though.
00:35:01.200 Really?
00:35:01.840 Really?
00:35:02.240 Let me explain.
00:35:02.880 Well, no, no, wait.
00:35:03.440 Hold on.
00:35:03.760 Before you do your explanation.
00:35:05.120 This is the easiest thing in the world.
00:35:06.160 Okay.
00:35:06.640 If you.
00:35:07.280 I can make so many personal texts here and I'm not doing it.
00:35:09.120 I might be so personal with that.
00:35:10.320 I want you to.
00:35:11.120 I want you to.
00:35:12.240 Listen, if you go and you find an incel.
00:35:14.800 Okay.
00:35:15.040 An actual incel.
00:35:16.080 All right.
00:35:16.560 What is the thing they're looking for most in life?
00:35:18.080 I mean.
00:35:18.960 A hug.
00:35:19.600 It's not sex.
00:35:20.480 They want the love and warmth and compassion of being in a relationship, right?
00:35:23.360 That's what people, that's what guys and the sex.
00:35:25.360 Sure.
00:35:25.760 But not just sex, but the idea that somebody loves them and accepts them enough to have
00:35:28.400 sex with them.
00:35:29.040 That's why you can't tell an incel.
00:35:30.240 Yo, just go buy a prostitute and go fuck her for a night.
00:35:32.160 Or that's why you can't tell any man.
00:35:33.360 Like if you make enough money, just fuck a different hooker every night.
00:35:35.120 Because you don't want to fuck hooker.
00:35:36.000 You want somebody that loves and accepts you.
00:35:37.040 That's part of being in a relationship.
00:35:38.000 Here's the thing, you didn't refute what I was trying to say was the two genders are
00:35:42.320 adversarial in general.
00:35:43.280 And the reason why is because both parties want something from the other without necessarily
00:35:46.480 giving up their situation.
00:35:47.440 I'll give you, if you got a court to grow, right?
00:35:49.360 She wants time, attention, and resources from that man before she gives him sex, right?
00:35:53.440 And I guess, how do I say this?
00:35:55.920 An indicator of a man having good game is being able to not give all that up while simultaneously
00:35:59.760 getting sex.
00:36:00.240 That's the parameter that guys use to establish if a guy has good game.
00:36:03.120 So what I'm saying is that the two genders want the commodity that the other one has
00:36:06.720 without giving up their commodity.
00:36:08.080 So it's inherently adversarial.
00:36:09.520 Now, I get what you're saying.
00:36:10.320 Oh, well, you're in a relationship, et cetera.
00:36:12.000 You still have to play the game when you're with your wife.
00:36:13.600 I think the goal is that if you're with a person, you enjoy giving them the time,
00:36:18.000 the attention, the resources, because it makes both of you happy.
00:36:19.760 But if you give it to them in an abundant fashion, they don't respect it anymore.
00:36:22.480 And here's the thing, dude, I wish it wasn't like that.
00:36:24.160 But women don't respect you when they have leverage.
00:36:26.160 I think when you're selecting for crazy women like this, maybe, but for most women,
00:36:29.840 I think they want you to want to spend time and attention and resources on it.
00:36:32.560 Because it's fun.
00:36:33.120 To get the best out of your girl, to get the best out of your girl where she's super loyal to you.
00:36:36.640 She's not doing anything else on the side.
00:36:38.160 She fucking only loves, admires, respects you.
00:36:39.760 There's no fuck shit.
00:36:40.560 And she stays loyal to you.
00:36:41.840 You must have the leverage as the man.
00:36:43.120 She must have the fear of God that if you leave her,
00:36:45.920 her life is going to suck significantly more.
00:36:47.680 So what's she going to do?
00:36:48.400 I'm telling you, women operate the best when they're stepping on eggshells,
00:36:52.160 not trying to get you mad or get broken up with.
00:36:54.320 I think if you spend three days a week away from your woman,
00:36:56.480 she's going to be sucking up her dick in like two months.
00:36:58.240 That's not true.
00:37:06.960 Can I ask a question?
00:37:07.520 Actually, the ultimate question, okay?
00:37:09.120 The best way to get loyalty then, it should be military men,
00:37:11.200 because they're leaving for fucking years at a time,
00:37:12.960 and they get cheated on in like two weeks after they step out of the house.
00:37:14.960 It's not about how much time you spend away.
00:37:16.400 Loyalty to your country versus loyalty to a woman are two different things.
00:37:18.320 It's not about how much time, come on, man.
00:37:20.640 Years is different than a couple days.
00:37:22.720 Bumble clock.
00:37:24.080 Bad argument.
00:37:25.040 Okay, you have a question or we can move on?
00:37:26.320 Yeah, someone else has some.
00:37:27.440 I did, if it's okay.
00:37:29.120 I'm genuinely curious, Myron,
00:37:30.400 because I saw a little clip of yours that went through,
00:37:32.080 and I'm wondering if maybe where it's getting tripped up is that,
00:37:36.800 you know, we're talking about normal people's perception of like dating
00:37:40.000 versus you guys are trying to instill the high value perspective, right?
00:37:43.600 Yeah.
00:37:43.920 One of the clips I saw you basically said that like,
00:37:45.840 you should never actually fall in love with your woman.
00:37:48.160 Yeah.
00:37:48.400 I don't know if I misconstrued that.
00:37:49.680 Could you like elaborate on that a little bit more and maybe explain
00:37:52.320 like how that maybe correlates to what you're talking about here?
00:37:54.960 You shouldn't pedestalize her and think that you're in love the way that movies tell you
00:37:58.800 to be in love.
00:37:59.680 Like, she's your world.
00:38:00.640 Like, she's your everything where you give everything away to her,
00:38:03.200 because then you end up living with her for eight years,
00:38:05.200 and then she talks about triggering and trauma,
00:38:07.200 and she'll end the relationship for no reason.
00:38:08.880 Like, you can invest everything into a relationship,
00:38:11.040 but that's not inherently what women want.
00:38:13.680 Women want to constantly try to chase your validation.
00:38:16.000 It is what it is.
00:38:16.720 You call it game.
00:38:17.680 You're playing games.
00:38:18.560 There's a reason why it's called game when you try to pick up a girl.
00:38:20.960 It's always a game.
00:38:21.920 Love is a back and forth.
00:38:22.880 You say it's adversarial, but you are always in competition to some extent.
00:38:26.400 Women will constantly shit test you.
00:38:27.840 They always want to see if you're the man that's capable of leading.
00:38:29.920 They want to see if you're the guy in charge.
00:38:31.440 If you're spending eight years with her all the time,
00:38:33.360 you're going to lose your frame.
00:38:34.480 You're going to lose that masculine essence about you.
00:38:36.560 That's what attracted her to you in the first place.
00:38:38.720 That's not true.
00:38:39.840 All right, so I think she asked me, but it's okay.
00:38:44.000 My thing is, I say you don't fall in love with a woman.
00:38:46.160 You have love for a woman, and the reason why I say you don't fall in love
00:38:48.320 is because when a man falls in love,
00:38:49.600 what ends up happening is the rational thought is gone.
00:38:51.520 Now they're acting off of emotion, and the last thing you want to be as a man
00:38:54.160 is acting off of emotion with your woman.
00:38:55.760 That's her job to fall in love and be emotional.
00:38:57.680 Women need that.
00:38:58.480 Men don't need that.
00:38:59.200 Men need to be in a rational mindset at all times, even when dealing with their girl,
00:39:02.160 because the thing is is that when you're with a girl and she does stupid
00:39:04.640 shit or pisses you off or she disobeys you or whatever,
00:39:06.800 you need to be in the rational frame to be like,
00:39:08.720 that wasn't acceptable behavior.
00:39:10.080 This needs to be corrected right now.
00:39:11.280 But you can't operate and tell your girl that if you're in love with her.
00:39:13.840 Right.
00:39:14.160 You don't but don't you feel like guys are so much more logical anyway?
00:39:17.840 Just naturally that that they can supersede that even if they have feminized men nowadays
00:39:22.560 that think that falling in love is the way to go.
00:39:24.160 And the reality is, no, you don't fall in love.
00:39:25.600 You're not a woman.
00:39:26.480 You need to be the leader in the relationship,
00:39:28.240 always have frame and be the dominant.
00:39:29.600 And by doing to do that, you have to have love for her and not fall in love with her.
00:39:32.560 But guys nowadays are extremely feminized
00:39:34.240 and they think that they can love a woman the same way she loves him.
00:39:36.480 And that's not going to work.
00:39:37.680 Do you want your woman to fall in love with you?
00:39:39.360 Yes, that's how it's got to go.
00:39:40.560 So then you have to be true to who you actually are and not pretend.
00:39:43.200 You have to be able to be a human and let her love you as a human,
00:39:46.160 because that's a bigger game.
00:39:47.280 If we can solve your brain and figure out what's actually in your head.
00:39:50.400 So even if you have fantasies.
00:39:52.080 You can't solve our brain though.
00:39:53.040 That's the problem.
00:39:53.360 But we can help you become a better man.
00:39:55.200 So that's a better game.
00:39:56.240 No, you can't.
00:39:56.800 That's a better game for us to change.
00:39:58.240 Hold on, hold on.
00:39:58.880 This is why you're wrong.
00:39:59.680 Because women love men opportunistically for what they provide.
00:40:02.160 You wouldn't even give me a chance if I wasn't the man in the first place.
00:40:04.400 Maybe you have to provide more than just finances.
00:40:05.840 You might be able to help me come in and make me a little bit better,
00:40:07.520 but you're not going to make me the man.
00:40:09.280 I was already the man, which is why you fell in love with me in the first place.
00:40:11.440 But if you can't be a man while living with me,
00:40:13.120 are you really the man if you don't have control?
00:40:15.520 What do you mean?
00:40:15.920 I do have control.
00:40:16.480 You don't have control.
00:40:17.040 That's why I'm leaving the house and going to my other one.
00:40:18.160 But you have to leave.
00:40:19.040 So you're running from your own self-control.
00:40:21.280 Oh, that's a nice reframe.
00:40:22.240 I'm not running.
00:40:22.720 I'm choosing to leave because I want to leave and I don't want to be around you all the time.
00:40:25.360 Do you not have the self-control?
00:40:26.160 It's not about self-control.
00:40:27.120 It's about I know what women are attracted to,
00:40:28.720 and I know what's best for the relationship to last.
00:40:30.720 So I'm not going to give my girl all my time and attention at all times because women don't respect that.
00:40:35.200 But you're saying men become weak when they live with their women.
00:40:37.280 They do.
00:40:37.760 Then that's their fault.
00:40:38.960 That's not the woman's fault.
00:40:39.760 That's the man's fault.
00:40:40.480 No, no.
00:40:40.880 But see, here's the thing.
00:40:41.440 You got to set yourself up in an environment to win sometimes.
00:40:43.760 Being around your girl all the time is going to make you softer.
00:40:46.000 There's a reason why men that get married to have kids, their testosterone drops.
00:40:49.360 You have to do things sometimes overtly to make sure that you still maintain the edge.
00:40:53.200 I want to say something.
00:40:54.400 I think it happens because when a man is spending the most time with the women,
00:41:02.400 they're always on their feminine side.
00:41:04.960 Because as a woman, you always want to stay home.
00:41:07.360 Well, most of the time you want to stay home and you want to be on your feminine.
00:41:10.800 So if the man is always at home, they're not complimenting themselves.
00:41:17.440 They're always on their feminine with the women.
00:41:20.160 So we as women, we always want the masculine side of the men.
00:41:24.320 And we want to stay like 100% all the time.
00:41:26.480 So that's why they, yeah, basically they'll need space inside for themselves to keep like
00:41:32.000 that masculine in.
00:41:33.040 Right.
00:41:33.680 You know what I mean?
00:41:34.320 Can I just, on that note, I think it's this ideology that if you live with your woman,
00:41:39.680 you suddenly have no other outside life and your lives just completely merged together.
00:41:43.680 Both parties should still be independent.
00:41:45.840 You should still have friends.
00:41:46.880 You should still have a job.
00:41:48.400 Like if you have to travel for work, like these are other outlets that you're not around
00:41:52.880 just women all the time.
00:41:54.000 Like you still have male friends.
00:41:55.600 I mean, yes, of course, but if you're living with your partner all the time,
00:42:00.560 you're going to spend a hundred percent.
00:42:02.240 Well, most of the time with your partner.
00:42:04.160 So that is not true.
00:42:05.520 I mean, you know, when you live together with a partner, you have,
00:42:08.720 unless you're literally in like fucking New York City and like a box with each other,
00:42:11.920 like you have different parts of the house you hang out in.
00:42:13.920 Just because you're living together doesn't mean you spend every waking moment together.
00:42:16.480 It's the same space though.
00:42:18.240 It doesn't matter.
00:42:18.880 It doesn't mean you're right next to each other.
00:42:20.080 For a healthy relationship.
00:42:20.960 Unless you look at a big ass mansion, she's on the other side.
00:42:22.480 You're going to see her destiny.
00:42:22.960 I don't need a big, bro.
00:42:23.520 I live in Miami just like you do, okay?
00:42:25.040 I don't have a fucking mansion out here, okay?
00:42:26.320 You're going to see her.
00:42:26.960 You could be, yeah, you're going to see her, but that's okay.
00:42:28.640 You should be able to be around each other and not be in each other's face 100% of the time.
00:42:32.240 But like really basic things like being able to sleep together every day,
00:42:35.040 being able to wake up in the morning and see each other.
00:42:36.400 Like these are things you can do without like encroaching in each other's space.
00:42:38.480 Like it's a fine thing.
00:42:39.120 But if you're sleeping, you're definitely encroaching on their space.
00:42:41.840 You're sleeping with them every day.
00:42:43.600 It's literally your bed right there.
00:42:45.120 That's your space.
00:42:45.760 What's wrong with it?
00:42:46.320 If they're satisfying you.
00:42:48.160 Again, they won't be all the time.
00:42:49.440 Again, ladies, ladies, you guys are failing to realize that I'm talking about the man maintaining
00:42:53.280 attraction with the woman.
00:42:54.560 Always being available for your girl is going to make you less attractive, period.
00:42:59.520 But I mean, I see you're saying we're failing to understand something and other
00:43:03.600 women are just disagreeing and expressing that we're attracted to other things.
00:43:07.200 And maybe we fall in this exception that you're talking about.
00:43:10.080 Hold on, hold on.
00:43:10.400 Let me stop you real quick.
00:43:11.040 What women say they're attracted to and what they're aroused by are two different things.
00:43:13.600 Women typically give politically correct answers when it comes to what they're attracted to.
00:43:16.720 They will never say the truth about I like you to spank me and, you know,
00:43:19.920 pull my hair.
00:43:20.320 And choke you.
00:43:21.120 I want you to choke me.
00:43:22.080 Oh, I want you to ignore me.
00:43:23.360 I want you to have other women so that I feel like I'm the one being picked versus that.
00:43:26.080 Women will never actually admit what they're really
00:43:28.400 attracted to and what they're aroused by because it's politically-
00:43:30.240 You can say that, but you're never going to find women outside of these
00:43:33.360 very hyper niche red pill spaces that are like, oh yeah,
00:43:35.600 like I found a really good guy.
00:43:36.720 He leaves like half the week every week.
00:43:38.000 That's never going to happen.
00:43:39.280 I'm going to admit that.
00:43:39.920 That's my point.
00:43:40.640 No, no.
00:43:41.200 Those relations don't exist.
00:43:42.320 No, they don't exist.
00:43:42.960 They don't exist.
00:43:43.680 They don't exist.
00:43:44.720 No, no, no.
00:43:44.880 They don't exist.
00:43:45.280 Most guys just don't have the ability to do so.
00:43:47.280 If most guys don't have the ability to do it, then most relations aren't like that by default.
00:43:49.840 Most guys don't have the ability to do it.
00:43:51.120 So they have to go ahead and do what?
00:43:52.320 Submit to the woman's will.
00:43:53.360 Live with her.
00:43:53.920 Give her all this attention.
00:43:54.880 Why do you say submit to the woman's will?
00:43:55.840 Maybe you both enjoy it.
00:43:56.800 That's not what men are in here.
00:43:58.800 What they're talking about is probably mercy subconscious as well.
00:44:02.400 Because like, for example, my ex, when he would leave and like go away to work somewhere
00:44:05.520 for like a week, I would miss him so fucking much while he was gone, like so much.
00:44:10.080 And so like, I see the point.
00:44:11.760 I get what you're saying, Destiny, but it's not like, oh,
00:44:14.240 I'm going to blatantly do this just to avert this reaction.
00:44:17.200 It's just something that naturally happens.
00:44:18.800 Yeah, no, no.
00:44:19.360 But what you're saying is true when people go on trips and stuff, you do that.
00:44:21.600 But that's different than like, we've got it structured.
00:44:23.200 So I'm gone 180 days of the year.
00:44:25.200 That's what I'm saying.
00:44:26.480 Like, I agree with you in that regard.
00:44:27.760 But psychologically, what they're saying makes sense.
00:44:29.440 No, no, no, no, no, no, hold on.
00:44:30.640 Psychologically, what they're saying doesn't make sense.
00:44:31.840 Because it's a big difference between my man wants to go somewhere for a week
00:44:34.400 because he's got responsibilities or whatever.
00:44:35.760 Versus I'm putting four days of space between us
00:44:37.680 because I've decided that's what I need to do to make you like it.
00:44:41.520 Planning that, true, but ultimately the outcome is the same.
00:44:44.080 When someone is away and you miss them.
00:44:45.520 No, no, no.
00:44:45.920 The same, the same.
00:44:47.280 But okay, again, the intention, I completely agree with what you're saying there.
00:44:51.840 Okay, thank you, okay.
00:44:52.480 But it doesn't have to be structured like I'm going to spend exactly,
00:44:54.720 you don't have to write out the calendar days of when you're going to go spend time.
00:44:57.040 It really doesn't matter how much.
00:44:58.800 If you were to tell your woman, listen, on Saturday,
00:45:00.720 I'm going to leave the house.
00:45:01.360 And she's like, well, what's up?
00:45:02.000 It's like, I just want to like get away from you for a day.
00:45:03.920 No, no, you don't say that.
00:45:04.800 You don't say that.
00:45:05.920 So now you're lying about why you're leaving the house every week.
00:45:08.000 Here's the thing, you don't explain yourself.
00:45:09.440 That's another thing too.
00:45:10.160 Like, bro, I don't explain myself to women.
00:45:12.560 I'm just going to do this.
00:45:13.280 I'll see you later.
00:45:13.840 That's it.
00:45:14.400 I don't sit here and negotiate or any of the stuff.
00:45:16.160 I'm the leader.
00:45:16.880 She's a subordinate.
00:45:18.080 I don't owe her a fucking answer.
00:45:18.960 It's either she falls into frame or she doesn't,
00:45:20.640 or the relationship is not going to work.
00:45:22.080 We're not equal.
00:45:23.040 I already know the answer, but just to ask,
00:45:24.240 like if the woman would said the same thing,
00:45:25.440 she's like, okay, well, I'm going to be gone on Sunday.
00:45:26.800 That would be acceptable.
00:45:27.600 You would need to know that.
00:45:29.040 And the reason, here's the reason why I need to know.
00:45:30.640 I'm the authority in the relationship.
00:45:32.160 I am the leader.
00:45:32.800 I'm the protector.
00:45:33.440 So I must know.
00:45:34.480 Her on the other hand, she is a subordinate.
00:45:35.920 So therefore we have different roles in the, in the situation.
00:45:38.880 She must tell me where she's going.
00:45:40.160 I must know.
00:45:40.560 Cause I'm responsible for her safety.
00:45:41.920 She's not responsible for my safety.
00:45:43.120 So I don't have to tell her shit.
00:45:43.920 Well, are you my, are you my parent?
00:45:47.120 Are you my caregiver?
00:45:48.160 No, he's my parent.
00:45:49.280 No, no, no.
00:45:49.840 But here's the thing.
00:45:52.240 This is where this is coming from.
00:45:53.360 You guys think men and women are equal.
00:45:54.800 I'm saying we're not.
00:46:01.440 That's it.
00:46:01.840 Is this your job?