Andrew Tate and Piers Morgan debate whether or not clinical depression is a real thing and why it should be treated as a clinical disease, and how to get better at dealing with it, and why you have no control over it.
00:01:36.540If someone comes to me and says I'm clinically depressed or I feel very, very sad, I would say the first thing you need to do is stop accepting the identity of a clinically depressed person.
00:02:14.080Every single person that believes they're depressed, I noticed that, is always, no offense to people, but out of shape, kind of fruity, vaping, putting a bunch of garbage into their body.
00:02:24.060This is the reason that your mental health is fucked up.
00:02:25.900You're not inherently, there's not something wrong with your brain at birth.
00:02:30.140You just don't want to improve and you're blaming it on something else.
00:02:32.940It gives you validation for being a midperson.
00:02:37.000You can have a phone, you can have clothing, whatever it may be, but show me where your depression is.
00:02:44.200It's because it is a part of the response that your body has and it's a constellation of symptoms that makes clinical depression very real.
00:02:51.780But the way that he's inviting it has more availability for the individual to actually adapt through it.
00:02:57.620I recognize that it's not a thing that they have to live with forever.
00:03:00.620And it makes them a lot more actionable in the consideration that if I were to do things, take ownership, accountability, take responsibility, and seek support, that I can navigate through the resolution of the depression.
00:03:13.380And that's what was missed by this host.
00:03:16.460And he said that there's no eminent doctor that would ever say that.
00:03:19.580Well, I'm here and I'm agreeing with Andrew Tate.
00:03:24.000The thousands of people who have emailed me saying my doctor told me I was clinically depressed and it's a disease that I have got in my brain and I can't be fixed.
00:03:31.220And I started listening to you and I realized that that's not the case and I can fix my own life and you're the only person who has ever helped me.
00:03:37.220This is where healthcare providers have to be careful, where we put labels on patients.
00:03:42.700My girlfriend, for example, her best friend started going to therapy and then she said, I'm depressed.
00:04:11.560She's somebody who's going, I don't want to say stuff about her personal life, but she's not depressed.
00:04:16.220But that belief will start to validate your problems.
00:04:18.500Instead of trying to improve, instead of trying to get out of that mindset, whatever the fuck is making you sad, heartbreak, being fat, just fix it.
00:04:26.720Improve yourself and that's the bigger fix.
00:04:29.280Sitting in therapy and wasting your time is literally wasting your time.
00:04:34.360Every person, pay attention to every single soy boy, not even soy boy, I don't want to throw insults,
00:04:38.960pay attention to every single person who's advocating for therapy and pills.
00:04:45.900Especially when it comes to mental health conditions that they're having.
00:04:48.980They're going to carry it around like a laundry list of things that they're having with them when it's in fact things that they're experiencing.
00:04:55.680Thousands of people have emailed me that exact email.
00:04:59.080Andrew, if you think you are single-handedly curing people of clinical depression, you are living in cloud cuckoo land.
00:05:04.860I think that clinical depression, I actually agree with you, is massively overdiagnosed.
00:05:08.380I've already said that PTSD is a very real thing.
00:05:12.940I did not say clinical depression is massively overdiagnosed.
00:05:16.760I said that people who claim to be depressed but don't have clinical depression, whereas there are a lot of people who just have a bad day and declare, I've got depression.
00:05:25.980And I say, well, have you been to a doctor?
00:06:45.860I do not believe it's a disease that you catch from the sky and you cannot affect.
00:06:49.700I believe that no matter what happens, I believe you have control of your own mind and you can fight against it.
00:06:53.680I believe if you change your circumstances in your life, you may feel different.
00:06:56.080I disagree that if you feel depressed, I disagree that you cannot affect it and change your life and take control and fix yourself and feel happier.
00:07:03.880They go to a doctor and they get diagnosed and they get help.
00:07:06.660Then I would argue the point that somebody...
00:07:08.340It's the opposite of what you just said I said.
00:07:09.460I would argue the point that if somebody has depression of any kind, whether it's clinical, whether it exists or not, whether they feel depressed or not, whatever, that taking control of their life, taking personal responsibility and working hard is always going to be the positive, best thing they can possibly do for their life going forward.
00:07:30.340Notice how depression doesn't exist in third world countries, in Africa, the Philippines, in places that aren't easier, like the first world, like places where they push the woke agenda.
00:07:43.000People are sad because they're poor, because their family gets taken away, because of real life circumstances.
00:07:49.020But the belief in people saying, I'm depressed, like that guy on Omegle who's just like, I'm vaping because I'm stressed and depressed and ADHD, that's only a first world thing.
00:07:58.000And you can look at somebody and I can tell you, I don't need to be a doctor, I can tell you why you're depressed.
00:08:01.900You got to vape in your mouth, you're overweight, you're pasty, you're fruity, this is why you're sad.
00:08:07.260This shit doesn't exist outside of the first world.
00:08:10.060If part of the diagnosis for all mental health conditions, including depression in this case, factored in the level of empowerment that can be placed, especially through the level of suggestibility that comes through the voice of the health care provider who provides the diagnosis and is providing the subsequent support.
00:08:28.320If they are including the idea and concept that the person is not having depression, they are experiencing it, we're going to have a very different way that we navigate depression and the dialogue and relationship that people have to it and the relationship that they have with themselves is going to completely adapt.
00:08:46.560And this conversation was very compelling in regards to that because it brings to light how important the words are and how important things like diagnosis and the identification component is when it comes to mental health.
00:08:59.280I feel like we can really empower individuals by reconsidering how we label particular conditions that they're experiencing, recognizing the difference and burden that we place inadvertently, though well-intended, when we say you have something.