SNEAKO - November 13, 2022


This Doctor Agrees with Tate About Depression!

Hosted by
Nicolas Kenn De Balinthazy
Mentioned
Andrew Tate Morgan Omegle
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Length

9 minutes

Words per minute

209.26

Word count

1,955

Sentence count

142

Harmful content

Misogyny

1

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Toxicity

19

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Summary

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Andrew Tate and Piers Morgan debate whether or not clinical depression is a real thing and why it should be treated as a clinical disease, and how to get better at dealing with it, and why you have no control over it.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 Proves exactly what I'm talking about.
00:00:01.280 A medical doctor's review of Andrew Tate with Piers Morgan regarding clinical depression.
00:00:05.720 Two world-renowned individuals, and they carry a lot of weight with the words that they say.
00:00:10.100 Do you believe depression is a real thing?
00:00:11.940 I believe that feeling depressed is real.
00:00:13.980 I don't believe depression as a clinical disease is real, no.
00:00:17.440 Really?
00:00:18.220 Correct.
00:00:18.540 I understand the argument why Andrew Tate would be saying that clinical depression doesn't exist.
00:00:22.680 Here I think he's inaccurate, but I understand where he's getting at.
00:00:25.900 Because he's not saying that clinical depression is a pathological thing that is stuck to the human.
00:00:31.040 It is a recognition of a state that a human is experiencing.
00:00:34.200 I know that feeling depressed is real.
00:00:36.640 I believe that the number one power you have against these things are trying to take control of your own mind and affecting your own life.
00:00:43.900 I believe that it's not healthy to hand over all your power and believe that depression is an outside disease that you can't affect.
00:00:51.380 Where I don't agree with you is that there's no such thing as clinical depression.
00:00:54.820 There absolutely is.
00:00:56.380 It's a proven scientific medical reality.
00:00:59.680 Is there such a thing as clinical depression? 0.99
00:01:00.740 You can't listen to this garbage or else you're going to end up fat, fruity, blaming all your vaping. 0.99
00:01:07.240 All your problems are going to be related to this. 1.00
00:01:08.960 Just if you just believe that it's not real, your life will be better.
00:01:12.040 Clinical depression, absolutely.
00:01:13.600 You don't accept there is such a thing as clinical depression.
00:01:15.640 No, I don't.
00:01:16.160 And that to me is a damaging view.
00:01:17.400 And what the host was pointing to was that clinical depression is something that he was insinuating the guest is saying is not real.
00:01:26.320 But that's not what he was insinuating.
00:01:27.880 What he was insinuating was that depression is a thing that you experience, not a thing that you have.
00:01:32.840 And there's a lot of validity to that.
00:01:34.520 OK, well, let me explain why.
00:01:36.540 If someone comes to me and says I'm clinically depressed or I feel very, very sad, I would say the first thing you need to do is stop accepting the identity of a clinically depressed person. 0.99
00:01:44.620 And do some goddamn pushups. 1.00
00:01:46.540 Stop accepting you have no control over this. 0.99
00:01:48.900 And what you need to do is stop identifying that way and let's work together to try and fight against it.
00:01:52.480 There isn't an eminent doctor in the world who would tell you there is no such thing as clinical depression.
00:01:57.480 That's what you believe, Piers.
00:01:58.720 It's what I believe.
00:01:59.480 I don't believe in things that take power away from it.
00:02:01.080 There is not an eminent doctor in the world.
00:02:03.480 Piers.
00:02:03.780 I would agree with you.
00:02:04.380 Piers.
00:02:04.880 Do you think you know more than doctors?
00:02:06.220 When you say to someone that they have this thing, it sticks on to them like their identity.
00:02:12.200 Yep.
00:02:12.660 Just like that guy we saw in Omegle. 0.73
00:02:14.080 Every single person that believes they're depressed, I noticed that, is always, no offense to people, but out of shape, kind of fruity, vaping, putting a bunch of garbage into their body. 1.00
00:02:24.060 This is the reason that your mental health is fucked up. 0.99
00:02:25.900 You're not inherently, there's not something wrong with your brain at birth. 1.00
00:02:30.140 You just don't want to improve and you're blaming it on something else.
00:02:32.940 It gives you validation for being a midperson.
00:02:37.000 You can have a phone, you can have clothing, whatever it may be, but show me where your depression is.
00:02:42.440 It's not there.
00:02:43.140 You can't see it.
00:02:44.200 It's because it is a part of the response that your body has and it's a constellation of symptoms that makes clinical depression very real.
00:02:51.780 But the way that he's inviting it has more availability for the individual to actually adapt through it.
00:02:57.620 I recognize that it's not a thing that they have to live with forever.
00:03:00.620 And it makes them a lot more actionable in the consideration that if I were to do things, take ownership, accountability, take responsibility, and seek support, that I can navigate through the resolution of the depression.
00:03:13.380 And that's what was missed by this host.
00:03:16.460 And he said that there's no eminent doctor that would ever say that.
00:03:19.580 Well, I'm here and I'm agreeing with Andrew Tate.
00:03:22.600 A doctor!
00:03:24.000 The thousands of people who have emailed me saying my doctor told me I was clinically depressed and it's a disease that I have got in my brain and I can't be fixed.
00:03:31.220 And I started listening to you and I realized that that's not the case and I can fix my own life and you're the only person who has ever helped me.
00:03:37.220 This is where healthcare providers have to be careful, where we put labels on patients.
00:03:42.700 My girlfriend, for example, her best friend started going to therapy and then she said, I'm depressed.
00:03:49.640 I'm clinically depressed.
00:03:50.720 She spent one day in therapy and immediately was prescribed with clinical depression.
00:03:55.660 This is so that you come back every single week and now you're a patient. 1.00
00:03:59.260 That shit is a pyramid scheme more than any course that you could buy online. 1.00
00:04:01.920 They call the Creativity Kid a scam, a pyramid scheme. 1.00
00:04:04.500 But then you spend one day in therapy and immediately they prescribe you with pills and say that there's something wrong with your brain.
00:04:10.260 This person is not depressed.
00:04:11.560 She's somebody who's going, I don't want to say stuff about her personal life, but she's not depressed.
00:04:16.220 But that belief will start to validate your problems. 0.99
00:04:18.500 Instead of trying to improve, instead of trying to get out of that mindset, whatever the fuck is making you sad, heartbreak, being fat, just fix it. 0.98
00:04:26.720 Improve yourself and that's the bigger fix. 0.99
00:04:29.280 Sitting in therapy and wasting your time is literally wasting your time.
00:04:34.360 Every person, pay attention to every single soy boy, not even soy boy, I don't want to throw insults,
00:04:38.960 pay attention to every single person who's advocating for therapy and pills.
00:04:43.240 They all look the same.
00:04:45.900 Especially when it comes to mental health conditions that they're having.
00:04:48.980 They're going to carry it around like a laundry list of things that they're having with them when it's in fact things that they're experiencing.
00:04:55.680 Thousands of people have emailed me that exact email.
00:04:59.080 Andrew, if you think you are single-handedly curing people of clinical depression, you are living in cloud cuckoo land.
00:05:04.860 I think that clinical depression, I actually agree with you, is massively overdiagnosed.
00:05:08.380 I've already said that PTSD is a very real thing.
00:05:10.600 I've already said that.
00:05:11.080 I didn't.
00:05:11.360 Hang on.
00:05:11.900 Okay.
00:05:12.180 Again, you misquoted me.
00:05:12.940 I did not say clinical depression is massively overdiagnosed.
00:05:16.760 I said that people who claim to be depressed but don't have clinical depression, whereas there are a lot of people who just have a bad day and declare, I've got depression.
00:05:25.980 And I say, well, have you been to a doctor?
00:05:28.520 Have you been clinically diagnosed?
00:05:30.300 If you have and you have clinical depression, that's one thing.
00:05:33.940 But if you haven't, we can put...
00:05:34.900 No, Pierce doesn't get it.
00:05:35.740 They overdiagnose.
00:05:36.760 Anybody who steps in the doctor's office and says, I'm sad, can be prescribed.
00:05:40.400 There's no brain scan.
00:05:41.840 There's no chemical imbalance with your serotonin.
00:05:45.540 You walk in and they say yes or no.
00:05:47.660 That's it.
00:05:48.260 We work on some mental strength and resilience skills with you.
00:05:51.220 But a clinically depressed person has an absolutely proven medical condition that is beyond their control.
00:05:57.800 The host is not being careful with his words again by saying that it is beyond their control.
00:06:02.760 In many instances, it temporarily can feel like that.
00:06:05.540 And the symptoms can be incredibly overwhelming.
00:06:07.420 But there is a reclamation of the capacity of the human to be in control of the symptoms.
00:06:13.060 But it's how they navigate it and the relationship that they have to it.
00:06:16.140 There's one that is empowering and there's another one that's disempowering.
00:06:19.520 And it's disempowering when the person is labeled with the depression that they carry around everywhere,
00:06:24.620 rather than the perception that the depression that they're experiencing is a state that can adapt.
00:06:30.040 Not according to me and many others, my friend.
00:06:31.840 Well, what do you know about it?
00:06:33.640 Honestly.
00:06:34.540 I know, I know.
00:06:35.240 You're not a doctor. You're not trained, are you?
00:06:37.060 I'm not a doctor.
00:06:37.580 You're not a psychiatrist. You're none of those things.
00:06:39.420 Okay.
00:06:39.740 At the moment, you try and deny clinical depression.
00:06:42.560 I believe feeling depressed is real.
00:06:45.860 I do not believe it's a disease that you catch from the sky and you cannot affect.
00:06:49.700 I believe that no matter what happens, I believe you have control of your own mind and you can fight against it.
00:06:53.680 I believe if you change your circumstances in your life, you may feel different.
00:06:56.080 I disagree that if you feel depressed, I disagree that you cannot affect it and change your life and take control and fix yourself and feel happier.
00:07:03.880 They go to a doctor and they get diagnosed and they get help.
00:07:06.660 Then I would argue the point that somebody...
00:07:08.340 It's the opposite of what you just said I said.
00:07:09.460 I would argue the point that if somebody has depression of any kind, whether it's clinical, whether it exists or not, whether they feel depressed or not, whatever, that taking control of their life, taking personal responsibility and working hard is always going to be the positive, best thing they can possibly do for their life going forward.
00:07:21.200 How positive is it?
00:07:22.080 So sitting here saying, I don't believe in clinical depression, you don't believe in depression.
00:07:25.480 No, I don't.
00:07:26.000 I believe that people can take control and fight against things.
00:07:28.200 I believe in personal sovereignty.
00:07:29.840 Right.
00:07:30.340 Notice how depression doesn't exist in third world countries, in Africa, the Philippines, in places that aren't easier, like the first world, like places where they push the woke agenda.
00:07:39.920 There is no mental health crisis.
00:07:43.000 People are sad because they're poor, because their family gets taken away, because of real life circumstances.
00:07:49.020 But the belief in people saying, I'm depressed, like that guy on Omegle who's just like, I'm vaping because I'm stressed and depressed and ADHD, that's only a first world thing.
00:07:58.000 And you can look at somebody and I can tell you, I don't need to be a doctor, I can tell you why you're depressed.
00:08:01.900 You got to vape in your mouth, you're overweight, you're pasty, you're fruity, this is why you're sad. 1.00
00:08:07.260 This shit doesn't exist outside of the first world. 1.00
00:08:10.060 If part of the diagnosis for all mental health conditions, including depression in this case, factored in the level of empowerment that can be placed, especially through the level of suggestibility that comes through the voice of the health care provider who provides the diagnosis and is providing the subsequent support. 0.99
00:08:28.320 If they are including the idea and concept that the person is not having depression, they are experiencing it, we're going to have a very different way that we navigate depression and the dialogue and relationship that people have to it and the relationship that they have with themselves is going to completely adapt.
00:08:46.560 And this conversation was very compelling in regards to that because it brings to light how important the words are and how important things like diagnosis and the identification component is when it comes to mental health.
00:08:59.280 I feel like we can really empower individuals by reconsidering how we label particular conditions that they're experiencing, recognizing the difference and burden that we place inadvertently, though well-intended, when we say you have something.
00:09:16.560 Wake up.