SNEAKO - September 10, 2022


Why SHE HULK Is My New Favorite Show!


Episode Stats

Length

12 minutes

Words per Minute

185.05612

Word Count

2,319

Sentence Count

51

Misogynist Sentences

24

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

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The first episode of Marvel's She-Hulk is here, and it's a lesson in terrible writing. Or at least that's what I thought it was, until I watched the pilot episode and realized it's actually a lesson about how not to write a character.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 This is, uh, She-Hulk, a lesson in terrible writing.
00:00:03.320 Like a lot of people, I tuned in to the first episode of She-Hulk last week with,
00:00:10.760 how can I put this, somewhat modest expectations.
00:00:14.860 Basically, I expected the show to be just another lazy Marvel TV product,
00:00:19.800 written and shot as quickly and cheaply as possible to keep the content sludgepipe flowing,
00:00:24.600 with lame attempts at witty humor and an extra large helping of complaints
00:00:28.320 about how generally awful and stupid men are and well that's exactly what we got and i think one
00:00:34.400 particular scene towards the end of the first episode pretty much encapsulates everything the
00:00:39.200 writers wanted to accomplish with this show i'm great at controlling my anger i do it all the time
00:00:45.040 when i'm catcalled in the street okay that makes no sense if you were great at controlling your
00:00:49.520 anger you wouldn't be hulk that's the whole point of the superhero is that he can't control his
00:00:55.200 anger and then he turns into the hulk and incompetent men explain my own area of expertise
00:01:00.320 to me because if i don't i will get called emotional or difficult or i might just literally
00:01:07.300 get murdered so i'm an expert controlling my anger because i do it infinitely more than you
00:01:13.720 you serious oh no this is actually jideon's favorite movie he called me up yesterday and
00:01:20.480 Bro, She-Hulk? This is the first movie that wasn't toxic in a long time.
00:01:24.780 My goodness, whatever could they be trying to tell me here?
00:01:28.260 Now, as tempting as it is to sit and mock She-Hulk for its awful writing,
00:01:32.460 cringey dialogue, flaccid CGI, heavy-handed gender politics,
00:01:37.280 amateur acting, nonsensical editing, and terrible pacing,
00:01:40.960 but don't worry, I'll come back to that in another video.
00:01:43.720 Believe that!
00:01:44.920 I actually wanted to use this show for something positive for a change.
00:01:48.480 Because the more I think about it, the more I realise it's basically a textbook example of how not to structure a story and how not to develop a protagonist.
00:01:57.720 So why not turn it into a bit of a learning experience for all of us?
00:02:01.680 Grab your pens and notebooks, dear viewer, because it's schooling time!
00:02:05.760 Now, as hard as it may be to believe, it is actually possible to make Jen's infamous rant function in context.
00:02:12.780 But the-
00:02:13.040 I'm great at controlling my anger!
00:02:15.060 Problem with this episode is twofold.
00:02:17.460 One, it doesn't actually show us any of the things she's complaining about
00:02:21.260 and two, it fails to establish Jen as a sympathetic, likable character that we care about.
00:02:27.140 The writers wanted a big emotional payoff with this scene
00:02:30.040 but they were either unable or unwilling to give us the setup that it needs to work.
00:02:34.540 So let's explore how and why they failed and how they could have done it better.
00:02:38.500 The problem is beginning the very first scene
00:02:40.460 where Jen's rehearsing a speech that she's about to give in court
00:02:43.380 and her two co-workers are
00:02:44.860 Mansplainer, right?
00:02:46.100 listening in.
00:02:46.860 Now naturally her female companion is positively brimming with praise
00:02:51.140 And the other guy's mansplainer right, that's the premise of the movie
00:02:53.780 I mean this girl just can't say enough good things about her
00:02:56.560 To the point where
00:02:57.280 Basically woman good, man bad
00:02:58.980 Where it becomes almost uncomfortable to watch
00:03:01.380 But pay attention to this scene 007
00:03:03.860 Because this is the very first time we meet our protagonist
00:03:06.400 It's the first chance we get to assess her demeanor
00:03:09.040 Her personality, her mannerisms and even her work environments
00:03:12.980 This is where the writers need to establish her as someone likable
00:03:16.500 Someone relatable, someone the audience can become invested in
00:03:20.420 But how to do this?
00:03:21.900 Do they give her razor-sharp dialogue?
00:03:24.120 A witty, fun, charming personality that you can't help but warm to?
00:03:28.220 Maybe work in a few little flaws, insecurities
00:03:30.740 No, she just acts like a cunt
00:03:32.180 And shortcomings to make her more human and relatable
00:03:34.760 Nope, they just have another character straight up tell us how amazing and smart and capable she is
00:03:40.320 She's fierce, she's a girl boss, she's crushing it
00:03:43.540 The script doesn't trust the audience to form their own opinions about this character
00:03:47.260 so it just straight up tells you what to think about her.
00:03:50.440 She's great because we say so, okay?
00:03:52.720 Don't question us!
00:03:54.080 This kind of thing is a hallmark of weak, insecure writers
00:03:57.280 who don't have confidence in their own work
00:03:59.500 and it's happening more and more in Marvel projects these days.
00:04:02.960 Like Maria in Captain Marvel who feels the need to tell the audience
00:04:06.240 that Carol Danvers is funny and crazy and kind
00:04:09.080 despite the movie showing us the exact opposite.
00:04:11.700 Or Luki telling his female counterpart how
00:04:41.700 that this is the most successful fucking movie franchise of all time how amazing she is because
00:04:45.620 otherwise we might not figure it out for ourselves you did it on your own you ran rings around you're
00:04:51.120 amazing this is not how writing is supposed to work the only voice of contention in the room
00:04:57.240 comes courtesy of a man but that's okay because he's quickly silenced and sent away with his tail
00:05:02.080 between his legs yep it's a marvel show all right but let's take a step back from that
00:05:07.320 And think what this does for Jen's character development
00:05:14.560 And that all-important scene later in the episodes
00:05:17.440 What it tells me is that Jen is already firmly in control of her life
00:05:21.320 Her work environment and the people around her
00:05:23.820 She's able to quickly and easily deal with objections
00:05:26.480 Dissenting voices and challenges to her authority
00:05:29.200 That's a good thing, right?
00:05:31.320 Well, not really
00:05:32.140 Keep in mind the conversation later in the episode
00:05:34.560 where she complains about men constantly questioning her judgement, holding her back
00:05:38.840 and generally making her life so difficult that she has to constantly hold in the rage that builds inside her.
00:05:44.580 That's telling us one thing, but the episode itself is showing us the exact opposite.
00:05:49.460 She easily deflects her male colleagues' doubts and sends him on his way without the least difficulty
00:05:54.060 and there's no indication that she's even particularly bothered by it.
00:05:57.800 If anything, she seems mildly amused by the whole thing.
00:06:00.720 She just blows him off and then gets right back to being showered with praise and adoration.
00:06:05.460 And this is a real wasted opportunity to develop sympathy towards the character.
00:06:11.080 Imagine this same scene where Jen recites her big elaborate closing argument,
00:06:15.080 only for her more senior male partner to overrule her and flatly state that he's the one who's going to be delivering it.
00:06:21.280 He might be superficially polite and consoling,
00:06:23.980 maybe even giving her half-hearted platitudes like she's just not ready for this yet,
00:06:28.000 but there's a more threat and an undertone to his voice so that we know exactly what he's doing and
00:06:32.400 why. We get to see her excitement and enthusiasm turn into crushing disappointment as she realizes
00:06:39.140 she's being held back from yet another opportunity. Now imagine how much more sympathy you'd feel
00:06:44.340 towards her as a character. I mean, nobody likes to see good people getting crushed and sidelined
00:06:49.340 and instinctively you'd want to see her succeed. Now imagine how much more impact her rant later
00:06:54.740 in the episode would have if we actually saw the negative impact of what she describes but no the
00:07:00.500 writers were so desperate to have their first girl boss moment right off the bat that they had to
00:07:04.720 make this a quick and easy victory for jennifer it's just so obvious what the like you could
00:07:09.160 always tell nowadays with these movies what the agenda of the scene is exactly what you're
00:07:14.700 supposed to feel who's good who's bad yeah what are you gonna tell me but i'm a strong independent
00:07:21.380 woman and you can't tell me anything it's just we know from the first the attitude the way they
00:07:26.300 close the door it's very predictable movies back in the day movies used to have storylines they
00:07:30.100 both used to be engaged not know where it's gonna go but people go to movies now to feel right and
00:07:35.480 feel a moral sense of justice just like they do online it's really reflected the new nature of
00:07:41.060 social media where people are canceling to get on their moral high ground these movies now are all
00:07:45.080 moral high ground this it's you know what the fuck you're walking into when you see she hulk
00:07:49.120 The scene feels more like them projecting their own personal gripes, frustrations and
00:08:04.000 hang-ups followed by the fantasy resolution they wish they could have had themselves rather
00:08:08.380 than a logical component of a bigger narrative.
00:08:11.460 It was more important for them to score a quick, eagle-stroking win rather than take
00:08:15.320 the smarter option that would deliver bigger and more satisfying payoffs later. And unfortunately,
00:08:20.660 that's a common thread in this show. Like in the next scene where Jennifer and Bruce are involved
00:08:25.020 in a car wreck. Bruce gets knocked unconscious in the crash and Jen's forced to drag him from
00:08:29.520 the wreckage and in the process, some of his blood mixes with hers and she turns into the Hulk.
00:08:35.900 Now imagine for a moment how much more impactful this scene might have been if Bruce had been the
00:08:40.400 one to survive the crash and Jennifer had been badly injured instead. So bad in fact,
00:08:45.120 that conventional medical science could do nothing more for her.
00:08:48.320 Faced with a difficult choice, Bruce reluctantly gives her a blood transfusion,
00:08:52.340 saving her life at the cost of her humanity by turning her into a Hulk.
00:08:56.420 That would open up a lot of pretty interesting possibilities for their relationship.
00:09:00.440 On the one hand, Jennifer would be rightly pissed that Bruce performed an invasive
00:09:03.940 and life-altering medical procedure without her consent,
00:09:07.060 and now she has to live with the long-term consequences.
00:09:10.040 And on the other, you could have Bruce wracked with guilt that he basically ruined her life,
00:09:13.800 But also defiant because he ultimately took the difficult decision needed to keep her alive
00:09:18.440 That could result in a lot of conflict
00:09:20.400 But also a lot of very emotionally satisfying scenes between the two of them
00:09:24.380 But all of that would require time and effort to develop
00:09:27.240 Probably over multiple episodes
00:09:29.160 And it's all just so much work
00:09:32.100 It would also mean putting their protagonist at a bit of a disadvantage
00:09:35.360 Albeit temporarily
00:09:36.840 And needing the help of a man to get her out of trouble
00:09:39.420 And that's not allowed in modern Marvel writing
00:09:41.680 Because it goes against
00:09:43.000 the rules they couldn't have their creation lying helpless and injured on the ground
00:09:48.620 they were repulsed at the end wl our movies now propaganda most of these movies just look like
00:09:54.240 feminist propaganda that you're supposed to believe in it seems like they're pushing an
00:09:58.560 agenda it's very political even superhero movies which is supposed to be fun and wild
00:10:03.140 all of them are really pushing this idea that we all see it right in front of our face it seems
00:10:08.540 like the news it's not just art they're trying to tell you something believe this this is the
00:10:15.220 right opinion what happened to art idea of a strong man pulling her from the wreckage and
00:10:21.040 making important decisions about her future without her inputs and so just like the opening
00:10:25.740 scene that could have been the setup for a satisfying emotional payoff later they instead
00:10:30.220 took the short-sighted option and went for a quick easy and cheap win of course jen doesn't
00:10:35.520 need brucey's help of course she wrenches a buckled car door open despite that being almost
00:10:40.420 impossible for any human without heavy cutting equipment of course she carries his unconscious
00:10:45.060 body away from the wreck despite him weighing 50 or 60 pounds more than her she's awesome she's a
00:10:50.460 boss she's killing it like she always does and it's only because of this weak dumb like they
00:10:55.320 didn't write this movie to have an original story that was supposed to be unique and different and
00:11:00.660 try to showcase this actress they made this movie to make feminists feel good that's why
00:11:06.500 do we need to keep watching his injured body that she happens to get some of his blood on her
00:11:11.360 what a selfish arsehole anyway so she hulks out and wakes up sometime later in the bushes outside
00:11:17.040 a bar in the middle of nowhere and after staggering into the bathroom she immediately
00:11:21.200 encounters a group of comically helpful women who slather her in makeup force her into some
00:11:25.780 cheap clothes and send her on her way, only for her to run into a group of evil men outside.
00:11:30.920 I mean, I assume they're evil because that's clearly what the writer wants us to think.
00:11:36.080 The problem is that they don't really do anything all that bad. I mean, they show some mild interest
00:11:40.860 in Jen, who's clearly not interested, and when they persist, she hulks up and almost kills all
00:11:45.940 of them. And it's only the intervention of Bruce at the last second that saves their lives.
00:11:50.540 And that's it. The big payoff here is Jen scaring the crap out of a bunch of dude bros who normally
00:11:55.200 would have been scary and intimidating to her, and whose only real crime was being a
00:11:59.440 bit too forwards.
00:12:00.640 Now, take a moment to think about this for what it really is, a logical building block
00:12:05.240 of a larger story. Think about how much more impactful this might have been if it had happened
00:12:09.660 earlier in the episode, before Jen's transformation. Imagine she was making her way-
00:12:14.320 I'm just not interested in the show at all and I can't believe the guy in this video
00:12:17.640 watched this whole thing. I think I'm done with this video. Yeah, we get the point. This
00:12:22.000 Show, movie, sucks.
00:12:30.720 That's it.
00:12:31.300 Is this your job?