SNEAKO - July 19, 2022Why Social Media Is Melting Your Brain
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Summary
Is there a principal reason why you should get off social media? And if so, what is it? Is it for your own good? And is it for society's good? Or is it because you're being subtly manipulated by algorithms that are watching everything you do constantly, and then sending you changes in your media feed that are calculated to adjust you slightly to the liking of some unseen advertiser?
Transcript
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This is an interview on how social media ruins your life.
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Is there a principal reason why I should delete my social media?
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One of them is for your own good, and the other is for society's good.
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For your own good, it's because you're being subtly manipulated by algorithms
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that are watching everything you do constantly,
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and then sending you changes in your media feed, in your diet,
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that are calculated to adjust you slightly to the liking of some unseen advertiser.
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And so if you get off that, you can have a chance to experience a clearer view of yourself and your life.
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But then the reason for society might be even more important.
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Society has been gradually darkened by this scheme
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in which everyone is under surveillance all the time,
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and everyone is under this mild version of behavior modification all the time.
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It doesn't mean that you need to get off social media, but you could pick an option.
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Or you could step outside, see the bot behavior that it turns people,
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I'll clip up my shit, post it on TikTok, and don't be a bot.
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And now everybody who's posting my shit on TikTok is seeing all the bot mentality.
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Everybody in the comment sections, and yo, TikTok people vouch for me.
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Everybody in the comment sections is saying the exact same thing.
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Be a fucking consumer echoing all the same nonsense.
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It's made teens especially depressed, which can be quite severe.
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Every single teen, every Gen Z kid thinks they're depressed.
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Are you being programmed by all the same opinions that everybody has?
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No, I have a chemical imbalance and I've been scrolling for eight hours looking at girls
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But it's made our politics kind of unreal and strange where we're not sure if elections
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We're not sure how much the Russians affected Brexit.
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We do know that it was a crankier affair than it might have been otherwise.
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They want to dumb you down so you don't think for yourself.
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If you don't believe me, start clipping up this stream and then watch everybody in the
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If you're in school, whatever the fuck, whatever age you are, and observe people scroll.
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You remember Wally when people were in wheelchairs sitting like this and didn't even move?
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So they take all the power to keep you sedated, to domesticate you.
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That's why every day they call them, you're immature.
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And then people at the top living the fucking dream.
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The founders of the great Silicon Valley spying empires like Facebook
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have publicly declared that they intentionally included addictive schemes in their designs.
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Now, we have to say, this is what I would call almost a stealthy addiction.
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What it says is, we will get the broad population to use the services a lot.
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We'll get them hooked through a scheme of rewards and punishment.
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The algorithm is developed to keep you hooked as long as possible.
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They want you to be on the app as long as possible.
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You can see the algorithm in the way people talk.
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Because everyone says exactly what they see on their feed.
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Nah, just echoing the same TikTok personalities.
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Everything, their whole personality, everything they say is echoed from an infographic or some
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If you start thinking for yourself, someone calls it toxic.
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People think it's a mental illness now if you think for yourself.
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The punishment is when you're treated badly by others online.
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And then within that, we'll very gradually start to leverage that to change them.
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So it's not as dramatic as a heroin addict or a gambling addict, but it is the same principle.
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Because a heroin addict, at least crackheads get up and dance a little bit.
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At least crackheads are like, they got stories.
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One thing crackheads will do is they will get to it.
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You algorithm people just fucking get in your moral high ground, echoing the same shit that everyone else is saying.
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I mean, there isn't some master sort of wizard of oil sitting behind the screen, is there?
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Well, this is the peculiarity of the situation.
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The people who run the tech companies like Google and Facebook are not doing the manipulating.
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But the manipulating, which rides on the back of the addicting, is the paying customer of such a company.
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And many of those customers are not at all bad influences.
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They might simply be trying to promote their cars or their perfumes or whatever.
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And indeed, I have sympathy for them because they're concerned that if they don't put money into the system, nobody will know about them anymore.
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How is it different to just television advertising or billboard advertising or anything else?
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So when you watch the television, the television isn't watching you.
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When you see the billboard, the billboard isn't seeing you.
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Just the other day, I was talking about upgrading my Wi-Fi because my stream was lagging.
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And then I got an email from like Spectrum Mobile.
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I've never gotten an email from a Wi-Fi company in my life.
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An hour after I was having a conversation about wanting to upgrade my Wi-Fi, they emailed me.
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And people will still say, well, they're not listening.
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When you're on TikTok all day, not only do they know your sexual orientation,
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The ads you get now are personalized for your dumb brain.
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And vast numbers of people see the same thing on television and see the same billboard.
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When you use these new designs, social media, search, YouTube, when you see these things,
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you're being observed constantly, and algorithms are taking that information and changing what
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you see next, and they're searching and searching and searching, and they're just blind robots.
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There's no evil genius here until they find those patterns, those little tricks that get
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In terms of society, I mean, you, you, you, Chad, how many of you have had that same experience?
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How many of you have gotten an ad that was something you were talking about two hours ago?
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Maybe I'm just a paranoid conspiracy theorist, or maybe all of you have had the same experience.
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Why do they know exactly when to send you a specific ad?
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And you think that when I say bot, I'm just like a conspiracy theorist or some shit?
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What's the first thing you do when you wake up?
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The first thing you do, part of our brain is connected to this.
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Everybody has had the same experience in the chat.
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Every single one of you have had the same shit happen to you.
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So now we have an option because you can't get rid of your phone.
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Since I was a little kid, since I was a teenager, I noticed that everybody was on this.
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So I invested all my time and energy into this.
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Not as a bot program, but as somebody on the outside creating for it.
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Since I was a little kid, I dropped out of school to do this shit, bro.
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Threw in this, you know, it's making people depressed.
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Unfortunately, there's a vast amount of evidence.
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There have been dozens of studies at this point, including studies released by Facebook scientists.
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And when Facebook releases such things, they say, oh, but we do all these good things, too, that balance it.
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Anybody who trusts Mark Zuckerberg, you cannot trust any of these goddamn people.
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All they want to do is continue getting richer.
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To make more money off of you, you need to be more and more and more addicted.
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Remember when everybody was echoing the same Vine jokes over and over again?
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Now if you go on Tinder, half the girls' bios, the way to win my heart is by Vine 2016 Vines.
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If that's not some bot shit, I don't know what is.
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There's a general acknowledgement that depression correlates.
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The scariest example is a correlation between rises in teen suicide and the rise in use of social media.
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But are you sure you can blame it on social media?
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Or is it not just those two things may have happened at the same time for other reasons?
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It's very similar to the problem of global climate change.
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We can say statistically over the whole population, yes, the correlation is real.
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And any particular person, of course, we can't.
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Just as we can't blame any particular storm on global warming.
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And this is something that's very well demonstrated.
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So when the company's own scientists are publishing on this topic and come to the same agreement,
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I love Silicon Valley, and I do not at all feel that I've turned on my own kind.
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And just to be clear, I'm very much a part of this.
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They're just trying to farm as much data as possible.
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They're all aware of what Edward Snowden was saying back in 2012.
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So you need to act as if you're always being watched.
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Why the fuck do you think my shit blew up in a day?
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Once you realize how bot-minded people are, I don't even have TikTok.
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Everyone's messaging, you're all over my For You page.
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It's easy to capture your attention because all of you are dumb.
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Since an outsider, I believe that what we're doing is not in our own self-interest.
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If they destroy society, they destroy themselves.
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I believe it's very clear that we could offer all of the good things.
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And there are many, many good things in these services, in social media in particular.
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I'm convinced we can offer them without this manipulation engine in the background.
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There's a world of other business plans, and I think they'd be better for us.
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So I don't think we're being evil so much as we're being stupid.
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He just said the same shit I said, but I'm saying it.
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He just called you stupid, but he said it in a nice way.
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We're being evil so much as we're being stupid.
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So I don't think we're being evil so much as we're being stupid.
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When it comes to Facebook, has Facebook made itself safe yet in terms of data harvesting and scraping and all that?
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Well, Facebook's fundamental design is one that is, the business model is to addict you and then offer a channel to you to third parties to take advantage of that, to change you in some way without you realizing it's happening.
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So I don't think any amount of tweaking can fully heal it.
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We're all addicted to the algorithm and they don't care how dumb we get.
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It's actually more beneficial the dumber you get.
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The more bot-minded you are, the more time you spend on your phone, the more money they make.
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It's getting harder to get to the top because they have a stronghold.
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You think the people at the top, like, have gender pronouns?
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They don't, they're not part of the same stupid shit that we're a part of.
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You think Elon Musk is arguing about trans bathrooms?
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Billionaires see us and they literally think that we're stupid.
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They see us all at the bottom and we're like little ants.
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They look down at us like we're ants running around in a hill arguing about this nonsense.
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Bible Choice, holding these signs, protests, Black Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter, laughing at us.
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To throw a barrage of rules at somebody who's following certain incentives and then expect them to really make a difference.
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So when Mark Zuckerberg says he's taking action and, you know, he regrets what's happened and all the rest of it, you're saying he can't make his own product a safe and desirable product?
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I believe that as long as his business incentives are contrary to the interests of the people who use it, who are different from the customers, then no matter how sincere he is, and I believe he's sincere, and no matter how clever he is, he can't undo that problem.
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He has to go back to the basics and change the nature of the business.
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They're just going to become—that's why when you see, like, Zuckerberg talk and everything, you're like, how is this guy even a real person?
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Because they've committed so much—they've fucked our brains up so much that they're lost, and, like, they need to justify it a little bit, but there's a little bit—they know how much they're ruining everybody.
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They have all empathy separated from—why do you think Mark Zuckerberg looks so scary now?
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When I got back on it, I started feeling miserable.
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Same feeling as eating fried Oreos after being healthy for a while.
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And if he doesn't agree with that and says we're just going to carry on, how important is security of that data and the inability to repeat what has happened with Cambridge Analytica and all that kind of sort of data harvesting that went on?
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I don't believe that this is—I don't believe that what happened with Cambridge Analytica is the worst of it.
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Like, let's suppose that Facebook reforms itself so that the next Cambridge Analytica can't get access to that data.
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Look at them staring into your soul, knowing everything—this dude right here knows every single thing about you.
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—just to the same results, because the service Facebook offers is exactly what Cambridge Analytica—
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Yeah, I mean, this is—you know, there are—bad actors are able to use Facebook in ways that Facebook can't understand,
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because the way the service is designed is fundamentally to be manipulative.
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So I think the data protection idea is a sincere and good idea, but it's certainly not adequate.
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It doesn't address the core problem, which is the manipulation engine.
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And as long as that is there, a bad actor can find a way to utilize it.
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So, to me, this concern about data protection, while laudable, doesn't address the core problem.
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I mean, you know, why is something like YouTube, which is basically just a way of watching video, bad for you?
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Because you start talking about this, and they strike your channel for misinformation.
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I started talking about the Coco, started talking about this.
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They deleted the video, and they gave me a community guidelines warning.
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If I talk about this again, they can strike it, and I cannot stream.
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If this shit doesn't wake you up, I don't know what will.
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I have a community guidelines strike for talking about code.
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If you say the wrong thing, if you have the wrong opinion, it's misinformation.
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You can really look at this, and, like, nobody cares.
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Community guidelines strike for misinformation?
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Why do they get to— Why are they in charge of information?
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Why are you okay with Zuckerberg and Susan telling you what information is correct or not?
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They clearly don't have your best interest in mind.
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So if you have the wrong opinion, if you say something that challenges the programming,
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So for some percentage of people, it'll have an effect of making them crankier around election time
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and feeling needier around the time they might be making a purchase and so forth.
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And the way it works is that all the data Google can get on you, much of which comes from just your email or whatever else it might be,
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is fed into an engine that compares you with other people who share some similar traits.
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And YouTube's ordering of videos that are presented to you is designed to, on the one hand, maximize your engagement so you won't stop watching,
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but that's achieved not just by observing you but by a multitude of people who are similar to you.
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And then when you do get an ad, it's contextualized in a way that has been shown to be effective not only for you but for this whole population.
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And it's bad for you because it leeches your free will.
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It makes you all think you have a chemical imbalance in your brain.
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And it's getting worse and it's getting faster and our attention spans are getting worse and worse and worse, bro.
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You know that faint noise off in the background when you hear someone just playing TikToks.
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You start talking about this shit, look at that.
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Bro, I started the stream and he got 5,000 more followers since I started the stream.
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The world a little darker because you're not perceiving reality clearly anymore.
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And it, the people who are paying or maybe not paying, just using the system to, in a clever way to get at you, are not necessarily pleasant people.
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They're, they're, they're, they're sort of the worst actors.
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But don't, don't some users think, look, I can handle advertising.
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Uh, and you know, they think they're manipulating me, but I know what I'm doing.
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The problem is that behaviorist techniques are often invisible to the person who's being manipulated.
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Uh, it used to be that the only way to be subjected to continuous observation and modification was to either be in an experiment.
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Uh, you could be in the basement of a psychology building and have students tweaking you for their projects.
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And often the people who are in these situations do not realize it's happening to them.
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In fact, the whole point is that it's, it's sneaky.
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It's, it's a, it's a mechanical approach to manipulating people.
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It doesn't involve direct communication and people don't get the cues to understand what's happening with them.
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Why do you think, um, social media has had the effect on politics that it has?
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You know, is it because of the way people respond to...
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You know what happens when you step out of social media?
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When you get off Twitter for a bit, you start realizing,
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But now, because everyone feels important, they start posting a black square.
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Everyone posts a black square when Black Lives Matter happens.
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While I think about this, this is my opinion on Ukraine.
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But then, this girl on TikTok posted an infographic.
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I think I'm actually gonna call off the strike.
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Well, I'd like to give you a slightly detailed answer as quickly as I can.
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And that is that, in traditional behaviorism, you would give an animal or a person a little treat like candy,
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or maybe an electric shock, and you'd go back and forth between positive and negative feedback.
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And when researchers try to determine whether positivity or negativity is more powerful,
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But the difference with social media is that the algorithms that are following you respond very quickly.
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...is like getting startled or scared or irritated or angry,
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tend to rise faster than the positive responses, like building trust or feeling good.
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So the algorithms naturally catch the negativity and amplify it,
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and introduce negative people to each other and all of this.
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And so what this does is it means that the algorithms discover there's more engagement possible,
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say, by promoting ISIS and promoting the Arab Spring.
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And so ISIS gets more mileage or promoting the Ku Klux Klan than Black Lives Matter.
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Now, in the big picture, it's not true that negativity is more powerful.
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But if you're doing this very rapid measurement of human impulses instead of accumulated human behavior,
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So you tend to have elections that are more driven by rancor and abuse,
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and you tend to have outcomes that are kind of crazy.
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King J, do 10 push-ups right now. Don't skip your workout for the stream.
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The effects on the media we consume, the news, as well as also alarming,
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because then it'll be the news that makes people angry
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that is the news that gets seen in the future or now,
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rather than, you know, a more balanced diet of what's really going on in the world.
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Well, I think what goes on on a show like this is that you have a bit of a longer time horizon
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by which you measure success. So you have to impress your viewership enough to tune in.
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But this is over a process of days and weeks and months and years.
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My advice? Stop caring about being likable so much.
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When you start getting out of the bot shit, you're going to offend a lot of bots.
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Nobody says what they think anymore because so many people get offended by it.
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If you get that mad at what I think, I'm not going to change your mind.
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Put the, anything you wanted me to react to, put it in the discord.
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And you build up a sense of rapport with your, your viewership, right?
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Um, if you're an algorithm that's just looking at instant responses,
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...engage this person and it'll be, you'll find that engagement more often
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And it'll be, you'll find that engagement more often by irritating people than by educating them.
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Because they thought that by saying he was triggering every day in the news that he was going to lose.
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He kept triggering people every day and got famous for triggering people.
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And there's people who get it and people who don't.
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All publicity really, at the end of the day, is good publicity in this game.
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In this game of politics, in this game of entertainment.
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Or, you know, any of the other populist leaders who are doing very well at the moment.
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I have never known Trump, but I have met him a few times over a fairly long period.
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Over 30 years, actually, through different circumstances.
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And I will say that, while I never would have voted for him as president, and I always thought
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he was somewhat untrustworthy and a bit of a showman and a bit of a scammer.
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He never lost himself and became so strangely insecure and so weirdly irritable until he had
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His character has been really damaged by his Twitter addiction.
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Because of the reaction he gets from each tweet?
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So, you know what happens in addiction is the addict becomes, not just on the good part
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of the addiction experience, but on the whole cycle.
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You know those people who just argue on Twitter all goddamn day long?
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I used to be one of those guys like going back and forth, like arguing about atheism
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And then you step out of it, you're like, yeah, I destroyed his argument.
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It's just like the same people in the chat now saying like, you're, you're dumb.
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They leave the stream and they feel like, because they're just waiting for me to
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And you just gotta, ha ha, whoop, whoop, whoop.
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Because anybody who's like trying to get a reaction or something like that, anybody
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who's engaging, this is, and too much negativity, it makes you miserable.
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A gambler is not just addicted to winning, but to this whole process where they mostly lose.
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And in the same way, the Twitter addict or the social media addict becomes addicted
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to this engagement, which is often unpleasant, where they're engaged in these, you know, really
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And only once in a while is that, you know, you'll, you can watch Trump.
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Like every once in a while, there'll be this tweet where somebody likes him.
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And that's when he gets his little, we call it in the trade, the dopamine hit.
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That's what it's called in Facebook, for instance.
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He gets his little dopamine hit and then he dives in for more negativity and things.
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And do you think it's possible to create a do-gooding social network?
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And the way to do it is to have a different business model where instead of...
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So right now, we've created this bizarre society, it's unprecedented, where if any two
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people wish to communicate over the internet, the only way that can happen, the only way it's
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financed is through a third party who believes that those two...
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So we can keep all the good stuff, and there is good stuff on social media, of course.
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We can keep all that and just throw away the manipulation business model and substitute
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And there are many alternatives that would be better.
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It could be a paid service, like a Netflix, where you're paying for it.
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It could become a public thing that isn't commercial at all.
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But what we did in Silicon Valley is we wanted it both ways.
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We wanted everything open and free, but we wanted hero entrepreneurs and hackers.
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And so the only way to get that was this advertising thing that gradually turned into the manipulation
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And this weird business plan, once you can see that there are alternatives, you realize how strange it is
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If I have anything, I've been doing this for a while, there's no point in trying to be like,
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And so you're not going to change people's mind.
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So you can make people laugh, make some money off of it.
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But if you're going to, well, you must click the GoFundMe link that I have here.
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And this is the infographic that has the right thing.
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We don't have to get rid of the idea of social media.
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We just have to get rid of the manipulation machine that's in the background.
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Just one last thing as well that is also obsessing parents at the moment.
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Screen time itself, do you think that is a bad thing?
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To be frank with you, I struggle with this question because I have an 11-year-old.
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And so I tend to think that manipulation time when the kids are being observed by algorithms
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and tweaked by them is vastly worse than just screen time by itself.
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Someone just donated five and said, how do you get out of the bot mentality?
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You see that we're all just little ants running around yelling about nothing.
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Don't just be in here consuming, echoing this, this is the right thing to say.
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Do you include video games in the social media?
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You know, the things that are manipulating them?
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Because they are similarly addictive, aren't they?
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They're addictive but not manipulative typically.
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Now, here I'm not sure how evil we've become lately because there might be some video games that are using behavior mod techniques for pay.
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If you're thinking about it out there, don't do it, okay?
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But the mainstream video games are not doing that.
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So there are plenty of things that are addictive that aren't leveraging that for manipulation.
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It's getting people to pay for things within the game.
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No, but see, the thing is, getting them to pay is still not manipulating them for a third party.
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I mean, Amazon does that to get you to buy stuff.
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Black Lives Matter in Ukraine, every single situation, the pandemic, there's always people making money off of it.
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Every time there's people enraged giving GoFundMe links and telling you what you do, there's always somebody who's making all the bread off of it.
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Black Lives Matter, the guy who made all the money from all your dono links, is a white dude.
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All the GoFundMe links to Ukraine, most of them were a scam.
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The Pandy, the people were really outside getting money where the rich people at the top, looking at all this like laughing while we stayed inside.
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Handing out masks in the park, like making mean eye contact with you.
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People are laughing at us while we all walk into a restaurant on a plane, take it off so that...
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We walk on a plane, all of it on, take it off so that we all eat, breathing everywhere, put it back on.
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So every time you see one of those situations, George Floyd, anything like that, when there's mob mentality, think about it this way.
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Someone with way more power, someone with way more money is scamming you while you are trying to do the right thing and save the world.
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But ultimately, we can't save the world, no matter what.
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No matter how many of this you take, we have no control.
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They're taking the money while we run around and get scared.
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Especially if you feel your kids are wasting money, you might object to it.
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You might feel it's not an ideal example of human behavior and character and maybe there could be a better business, whatever.
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But it's not directly manipulating you, say, to influence an election.
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It's not trying to change your behavior out in the larger world.
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And that's the thing that's really tragic about designs like Facebook and Google.
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But your advice tonight to everyone watching this is delete all your accounts.
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The best manipulation tactics, if you read like any book about control or power, the best manipulation is with fear.
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Because people will do anything to stop being scared.
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Every time you're scared, someone's looking down.
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One, if you're a young person and you've only lived with social media, your first duty is to yourself.
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And you can't know yourself without perspective.
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So at least give it six months without social media.
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Don't like quit Facebook and keep another Facebook thing.
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People are in the chat saying like, oh, but you make money on social media.
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I didn't have Instagram until like a couple of years ago.
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All throughout high school, I didn't have Instagram.
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I took years to really learn myself and develop my own brain because I saw that it was manipulating people.
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I needed to be on my own to really figure myself out before I could be on the internet all the time.
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That's why I could stream every day and I could bob and weave all the fucking haters, all the people saying,
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And so misogynist, you're, you're just spreading your, you're dying.
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I know how to slip all that because I know myself.
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It took me years of traveling, of talking to people, of being introspective, being alone, going to different places to finally develop the mental strength to do this shit every single day.
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And now it's so confusing to people because people never get to that point every day.
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They'll write essays and they'll say shit like you need to take your pills.
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One day you're going to take your therapy and you know, I'm not going to.
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The more you say that, the more whoo, whoo, slip, slip, the more I'm going to keep making money streaming.
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And the more money that y'all are going to make, bro, going viral on TikTok.
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I guarantee you don't believe me, start posting my stream clips and see all the bots in the comments section.
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Like WhatsApp, because then it'll still be spying and manipulating.
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Get rid of the whole thing for six months and know yourself and then you can decide.
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You have to decide, but you can't until you know yourself.
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And then for the rest of society, I'd say as long as we can have some small percentage of people who are off it,
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then the society can have voices to give perspective.
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If everybody's universally part of this thing, we cannot have perspective.
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You know, we need more people who are just outside of that loop,
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And I think we'll find it extraordinarily valuable to have them.
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I mean, see, that's what I used to say a couple of years ago.
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People are going to call me a conspiracy theorist or a hippie or like I'm a boomer or some shit like that.
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Anyone who's really like doubting what I'm saying right now.
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I don't think that they're they're really happy with their lives.
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People like in the chat who get it right now, they're saying, why are there so many goofy people in here?
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You're seeing the goofy people because a lot of people don't want to change.
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A lot of people are addicted and they don't want to see it.
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And they're getting triggered by the stuff I'm saying.
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But a lot of you, the reason you're still here is because, you know, I'm saying a little bit of truth.
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You resonate a little bit with what I'm saying.
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You know that this shit is not making you happy.
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You know, when you lay for five hours on your side, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling.
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Someone donated five and said, if you chose any voiceover commentary niche on YouTube that isn't saturated, needs more creators, what would it be?
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That's going away because everyone's scared of getting canceled.
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Have you just been through the mill and kind of worked out?
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I mean, you know, I mean, I hear here's what I'll tell you.
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The bind you've put me in is that I'd be happy to trash the new age and and demonstrate that I'm not part of that manner of thinking.
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I think I hope I've come across as a non utopian.
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But the problem is many of my friends in California are quite new age.
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As soon as I start talking about this, they're going to find something to say that's misinformation.
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Community guidelines strike for misinformation.
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Why do you think that what I'm saying is called misinformation by all these people at the top with more money than all of us?