SNEAKO - August 30, 2022


Woke People Get Triggered by Conversation


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Length

1 hour

Words per Minute

185.26793

Word Count

11,195

Sentence Count

289

Misogynist Sentences

83

Hate Speech Sentences

91


Summary

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Trans women should be able to compete in women s sports, is that a good thing or a bad thing? Do you have an opinion on this? Do you think it should be allowed in women's sports or not?

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00:00:00.340 Now we got heated exchange. I love these social experiments. I love seeing NPCs out in the wild.
00:00:04.980 This is Peter Bakhossian. He had a great video before. This is heated exchange, trans women and women's sports.
00:00:11.580 We're going to have a conversation about trans women should be able to compete in women's sports.
00:00:16.440 Anybody have an opinion about that? I have a feeling this is too...
00:00:19.940 Why would you even ask that question? That's a little bit problem.
00:00:23.580 Controversial for people, so we might have to change the claim.
00:00:26.100 But somebody must want to have an ominous conversation about this.
00:00:30.000 do you think trans women should be able to compete in women's sports too controversial even for you
00:00:34.960 son this alone is interesting to me nobody will have a conversation about this interesting i'll
00:00:41.600 give someone else the mic and let them question me about this claim trans women should be able to
00:00:46.480 compete in women's sports you want to have that conversation nope too scared okay you want to
00:00:51.200 have that conversation nope too scared too scared okay anybody anybody trans women should be able
00:00:58.480 able to compete in women's sports be terrifying trans women should be able to compete in women's
00:01:04.440 sports anybody have you have an opinion awesome awesome a wild mpc and you already know she got
00:01:09.840 triggered because she walked in and blurted out so she ended this by saying if you put this
00:01:14.600 anywhere i'm literally gonna sue you stand on the neutral line right there so the game has only two
00:01:21.220 rules we can do it with one oh we got two people oh we got three people all right well i was wrong
00:01:27.100 I was wrong. I was wrong. I didn't think of it. Okay. Okay. So this is a very simple game. We have
00:01:35.160 a few rules. The first rule is you can't stand in between the line. Okay. Very straightforward.
00:01:44.380 The second rule is you can't move until I say move. And the reason for that is because we don't
00:01:50.280 want anybody's opinion to affect anybody else's opinion exactly precisely now let
00:01:57.240 me go I can't chat what minute do you think she's gonna get triggered because
00:02:01.740 you know the end result over this strongly agree agree slightly agree
00:02:07.500 neutral slightly disagree disagree strongly disagree so I'm gonna ask this
00:02:13.080 question and come back to five and don't move until I get to go and stand on a
00:02:20.820 line. It could not possibly be any simple but you'd be astonished how many people
00:02:24.720 do not pay attention to the rules.
00:02:29.480 Trans women should be able to compete in women's sports. Five, four, three, two, one.
00:02:37.120 Okay let's predict. Yes, trans women, they agree. Trans women should be able to
00:02:42.600 compete in women's sports they're all bots yeah move oh wait which one's strongly okay so the
00:02:49.540 the wife of a one one here and the npc's one here okay so this is strongly disagree and strong
00:02:53.980 strongly agree okay we've got one disagree one strong okay you're not supposed to stand in line
00:03:00.620 goofy that's like the one thing he said strongly agreed to up you're on the line okay tell us why
00:03:04.800 you agree oh wait oops i'm dumb you're supposed to stand on the line okay i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm
00:03:08.360 I agree because trans women should be able to compete in women's sports because they
00:03:17.700 are competing underneath their identity that they very solidly align with and to deprive
00:03:23.860 them of that.
00:03:24.860 Ready?
00:03:25.860 You ready for me to debunk this in one second?
00:03:28.860 No you're not.
00:03:31.860 What do you mean I'm not?
00:03:35.860 How can you tell me I'm not a transgender?
00:03:37.860 What tell me I'm not a transgender?
00:03:42.180 No, you're not. What do you mean I'm not?
00:03:45.680 How can you tell me I'm not a transgender?
00:03:49.460 What silence?
00:03:51.900 How can you tell me I'm not a transgender?
00:03:55.860 That's how I identify
00:03:59.900 You gonna check my junk even if you do maybe I'm a woman with a dick, huh? Some women can have penises
00:04:06.440 That's what y'all say
00:04:09.440 Chat, this is a great point
00:04:12.440 Next time the men's bathroom is clogged up
00:04:14.440 Next time you see a massive dookie and all the stalls are all stinky
00:04:18.440 Hop into the woman's bathroom
00:04:20.440 I'm transgender
00:04:22.440 How you going to tell me I'm not
00:04:24.440 This is the problem
00:04:26.440 You don't need meds, you don't need estrogen
00:04:28.440 This is how easy it is to classify
00:04:30.440 Look at her face bro, I love that bro
00:04:32.440 How you gonna tell me?
00:04:34.440 How you gonna tell me I'm not trans?
00:04:35.440 Silence.
00:04:36.120 Don't tell me I'm not a transgender.
00:04:42.000 Legend.
00:04:44.960 It's to kind of say that their identity is not acceptable in society.
00:04:52.240 In society or?
00:04:53.520 In sports, that they're not valid.
00:04:55.480 Their identity is not validated.
00:04:57.320 Okay.
00:04:58.260 Do you agree with what she said?
00:05:00.180 Yes, but that's not specifically why I agree that trans women should be able to compete.
00:05:04.660 okay why do you think i believe trans women should be able to compete in sports because
00:05:08.200 there's specific criterion um that criterion is not a movie theater you mean criteria that
00:05:13.980 trans women have to meet in order to be able to compete under the woman category in which sports
00:05:18.740 this is why i know she's going to be triggered because she's one of the people that finishes
00:05:21.940 her sentences like this when i make a point and i'm going to do it four more times ready to hear
00:05:28.160 it and i haven't seen this video i promise you but this is how the bots speak um i'm not an
00:05:33.780 expert on all sports I will I'm not an expert either but I do know for at least
00:05:37.540 the Olympics there are requirements for trans women because when trans women
00:05:42.480 because so on testosterone hormones testosterone drops in them so a lot of
00:05:50.100 the natural advantages they might have being born in a man's body are depleted
00:05:54.960 like the extra strength testosterone gives you and so on and so forth so they
00:05:59.220 have to be below a certain testosterone level they have to be on estrogen for a
00:06:03.660 a certain amount of time and even the rule where you have to be below a certain
00:06:08.760 testosterone percentages have stopped cis women from competing in sports
00:06:14.040 so they're very like hard set rules there's this woman meaning what this
00:06:19.980 woman oh a biological woman women who are born as women women who are born as
00:06:27.720 women okay cis women yes this cisgendered is when you're born in the
00:06:32.340 correct sex so like I was born a woman I'm identify as woman still I'm sis if I
00:06:37.080 were to identify as non-binary or anything else I would not be sis how
00:06:42.100 you gonna how you gonna ask this question on oh it says means well sis
00:06:46.260 isn't in in the question and what's this might mean to you oh the triggering
00:06:50.940 starts the sooner that I thought that doesn't mean that people watching this
00:06:54.180 you know it's just things are a definition things mean things things
00:06:58.340 mean things okay she's getting triggered already but you didn't know
00:07:01.320 So, okay.
00:07:03.320 Cisgender means one thing.
00:07:05.860 Is it possible that some people could define or perceive the word women to be different?
00:07:14.560 Well, I'm not talking about women.
00:07:16.400 I'm talking about the term cisgender.
00:07:18.860 Yeah, so I think it's important that we define our terms.
00:07:21.920 That's why I meant I wanted you to define it.
00:07:24.260 Yeah.
00:07:24.460 Do you think it's unfair enough for me to ask you to define it?
00:07:26.440 No, I just don't.
00:07:27.880 It sounded like you didn't know what Sinshinder was, and I was just wondering if you didn't know what that was, why you thought.
00:07:32.720 It sounded like you didn't know what Sinshinder was.
00:07:34.340 You should ask that question.
00:07:35.300 Oh, no.
00:07:35.720 I'm starting to get a little bit emotional, Andrew.
00:07:39.440 I'm actually – I'll tell you why later, but I'm a legitimate gender studies scholar.
00:07:44.120 Oh, perfect then.
00:07:45.320 Yeah, thank you.
00:07:46.120 I don't mean to brag, but I've really outpublished almost anyone in the world in gender studies.
00:07:51.500 You do mean to brag a little bit.
00:07:52.520 That is impressive.
00:07:53.380 Thank you.
00:07:54.220 I'll show you my body of literature later.
00:07:56.040 But for now, she just got, okay, Peter, I'll stream, I'll stream, I'll stream, Peter just
00:08:05.780 like, okay, yeah, I know what cis means, I'm actually the best published gender studies
00:08:11.980 scholar and nobody can even fucking talk to me, you're just a little college bitch and
00:08:17.240 I'll show you my body of literature later, I'm big body, what's up college girl, you're
00:08:22.280 gonna leave and get triggered later, yeah, let me walk to the other side.
00:08:26.040 um, trans women should be able to compete in women's sports. What do you think about that?
00:08:30.540 I do not think they should be able to do that. Okay. Did anything that they say persuade you
00:08:35.840 think about that for a second, but tell us why. Um, I just think the biological makeup of a man
00:08:42.580 is not the same as women, whether they take hormones or not. It's not even when they take
00:08:48.000 estrogen, men are still built like men, no matter how many hormones you take away your bones,
00:08:54.780 your muscle bodies you don't have tits you don't like it's your bodies you're a man
00:09:01.380 even though pills are not going to take that away we will kill women in all these sports and don't
00:09:08.020 clip that up to so that it says men will kill women someone's going to do that please don't
00:09:12.160 don't make me sound bad especially if they've been competing in that sport for years they did
00:09:18.380 originally as a man or woman and then they switched to female which i played a female
00:09:24.400 sport growing up what did you play lacrosse which is very different oh she white white
00:09:29.220 she white white white white lacrosse is the white people sport someone with the thing the net
00:09:33.700 which is yeah they gentrified that from the native americans very different from male lacrosse so i
00:09:40.620 just think that it comes down to the biological makeup of like like softball and baseball
00:09:45.300 Bitches got to throw underhand like they're bullying and then men could fucking throw overhand because our arms are not gonna fall off
00:09:52.340 Training used for it and everything but I agree with a lot of the stuff that they say I'm not like
00:09:57.240 They shouldn't do it, but I just think it should be so you think and I just want to make sure I get your argument
00:10:03.140 You think that they shouldn't do it because it confers an unfair advantage on the person even if they've met their hormone
00:10:12.000 requirements because as
00:10:13.800 This argument boils down to it hurts women's feelings when you say that men are stronger than women.
00:10:21.280 40-minute video, we can boil it down to that.
00:10:23.660 A biological male ages before they transition, they have certain intrinsic advantages.
00:10:31.580 Height, for example, maybe in basketball.
00:10:34.380 Now, that doesn't mean all men are tall, but on a Gaussian curve, it means that more men are tall than women.
00:10:40.260 So is that – I don't want to mischaracterize.
00:10:42.020 Yes, that's what I mean.
00:10:43.800 did that persuade you um i would say no because we have talked about like the hormones and like
00:10:52.500 the genetic makeup of a male body versus a female body but there are changes that right now the
00:10:58.680 blurred lady is getting so mad you ready for her next answer is going to be 10 times more passive
00:11:03.700 aggressive you see the stance that crossed arms she's loading up she got triggered by that body
00:11:08.260 of literature comment and now she's ready for her comeback because she got a little bro can
00:11:12.360 happen whenever um someone starts to transition that can affect their muscle density just like
00:11:19.980 their overall genetic makeup but not their genetic makeup but like their hormones and just how their
00:11:24.760 body functions so i don't know if that is like completely valid in arguing this what if i could
00:11:30.140 provide you with evidence that even with the hormone replacement therapy that still conferred
00:11:40.740 an advantage on people born as men yes even when you take estrogen pills you're still a
00:11:48.060 fucking man body you built different it is what it is that it that it wouldn't give it it would
00:11:54.960 it would even if they underwent hormone therapy it still was an advantage for the trans woman to
00:12:04.700 participate in sports would you then be for it or against it i would be open to revising my
00:12:10.300 opinion if there's um evidence presented on that so you would be open to revising and would you be
00:12:17.980 open to revising your opinion to go to the agree or the slightly agree slightly agree but i don't
00:12:22.380 think i would go any farther than that okay okay so the thing that's keeping you must be some
00:12:27.260 identity factor yes okay so let's talk about that in a second so just to be clear i don't want to
00:12:32.460 put words in your mouth if you were to be shown evidence to your satisfaction look at that look
00:12:38.220 Look at trans women on estrogen and look at an actual woman.
00:12:41.880 Are you kidding me?
00:12:43.120 That looks like Sam Hyde.
00:12:44.460 I'm the Achille.
00:12:45.460 I'm going to eat you and rip your skin and eat you alive.
00:12:49.460 I've taken estrogen, but I'm coming for all the women's Olympic medals.
00:12:54.100 Rawr.
00:12:55.100 Oh my God, bro.
00:12:57.020 Imagine being Tiffany and this is full speed.
00:12:59.460 Rawr.
00:13:00.460 I'm a woman.
00:13:01.460 Fuck.
00:13:02.460 Fuck.
00:13:03.460 that people born as male who transitioned who met the requirements of whatever lacrosse or
00:13:12.440 yeah if you if you were to be shown they would still have an unfair event you would be willing
00:13:17.460 to move one possibly two but not three is that what you said is that fair to say okay if you
00:13:22.860 would have been shown that advantage would you move probably not okay what would it take for
00:13:27.400 you to move nothing probably i feel very strongly about this nothing could make you change your
00:13:32.560 mind she's that set in stone so i fucking peeped it she's a bot from the jump i'm telling you well
00:13:37.540 i mean that's why she blurted out because bots do not she's gonna malfunction because here's the
00:13:42.380 thing even if you were to show me proof that people born as men who transition as women still
00:13:49.360 have an unfair advantage um you know i would believe that full-heartedly i wouldn't like try
00:13:54.180 to dispute that if i saw like the facts behind that however sports inherently have genetic
00:13:59.840 advantaged players like Michael Phelps Michael Phelps yeah yeah yeah he didn't
00:14:06.620 produce like lactic acid he had an abnormally large wingspan he had like
00:14:10.640 webbed toes and webbed feet no it's not him competing that's an unfair genetic
00:14:14.080 advantage we don't care about genetic advantages until it's someone
00:14:17.480 transitioning from a man to a woman or a woman to a man I have to call you I have
00:14:21.920 to push back on that was a way better point than I thought she was gonna make
00:14:24.960 I haven't heard that point yet I have personally never heard anybody concerned
00:14:28.820 about people transitioning to a man competing in men and men's sports have
00:14:34.560 you know that's also another problem why are we still focused on trans women and
00:14:38.080 not trans man as well well I think unfair advantage it should be well but
00:14:45.440 that's what I'm saying no one really cares about it being an unfair advantage
00:14:48.140 or we wouldn't like basketball for instance if you're tall and I you could
00:14:53.060 still make it to the NBA if you're like above six seven but if you're below six
00:14:56.420 foot and phenomenal yeah that's a basketball short no this is football my shirt this is the
00:15:02.920 seahawks seahawks man peter what you're supposed to notice oh okay i don't know much about sports
00:15:10.000 but here you are debating it uh-oh yo the bots actually i think the bot took this a little
00:15:16.000 exchange i thought she's gonna get triggered she has you right here yeah well ask me about gender
00:15:20.100 studies that's a different thing but let's say well because it's about sports you know some of
00:15:24.540 logistics you have uh are like that are in sports come to play here and like i said a lot of sports
00:15:29.260 is genetic advantage like being born and having an aptitude for something shouldn't mean you can't
00:15:34.540 do it no one like i said no one wanted to make themselves not swim in the olympics so so do you
00:15:39.340 think that there should be one division and we just throw all men and women in the same division
00:15:43.260 that's not what i said no no but i'm asking you yeah so how do you separate the genetic differences
00:15:48.820 Is that what you think?
00:15:50.680 Why not?
00:15:52.280 Honestly, I just haven't given that enough thought.
00:15:54.780 I do think there is...
00:15:56.260 You know, some pros to having two separate divisions for men and women.
00:16:03.220 But like I said, honestly, I haven't...
00:16:04.260 What are the pros?
00:16:05.560 Honestly, I haven't given that enough thought.
00:16:07.360 Ah, but you've given all the woke thought.
00:16:09.680 Ah, thought.
00:16:11.880 To have like a...
00:16:12.720 Sorry, queen.
00:16:13.840 A concrete stance on it that I would want to fully see behind.
00:16:17.100 That's fair.
00:16:17.260 because i haven't done enough research or thought on it that that's fair but you know all the woke
00:16:23.040 points and you also said that you're not willing to change and move to the other side but you're
00:16:27.080 you don't know shit so how that's a pretty dumb argument so you think that there should be
00:16:32.940 two divisions as of right now before i do a lot of like thinking about it like i said like i haven't
00:16:38.300 put enough thought to it to make to give you a clear firm stance okay so i'm kind of thinking
00:16:43.880 think through this to myself so the reason and i'm could be totally i'm just trying to figure
00:16:49.400 this out myself so the reason the reason that there are two divisions why is he thinking like
00:16:54.600 this is fucking this is taking a lot of brain power from a guy who has a fucking yeah i got
00:16:58.960 the body of work bro he's got to press his forehead for her argument or because there must be
00:17:03.520 certain categories of things that different sexes are better at or there wouldn't be divisions in
00:17:11.040 the first place unless it was just like some social convention you're not wrong there
00:17:16.040 so damn he's being genuine i think a lot of other people who do this stuff like ben shapiro and
00:17:22.760 stephen crowder they come in with the really like patronizing i'm better i'm smarter than you i
00:17:27.060 already know i think this guy's actually trying to learn and listen to other arguments which i
00:17:32.280 commend it's hard to with bots is it possible to abstract from that and say that that reason is
00:17:39.080 what confers an advantage on somebody no because you can have advantages over someone who's also
00:17:46.200 the same gender just as a different gender does gender is not the only factor that provides
00:17:52.740 an advantage or not however it's definitely one that contributes to an advantage you have
00:17:57.700 right because because there's a trans swimmer in the olympics she didn't win if if trans women
00:18:04.340 really have a crazy crazy advantage on women why didn't she sweep why didn't she do it would
00:18:09.060 does sweep mean when everything like the kitchen like mop and sweep sweep like i thought you
00:18:16.920 might give her a mop and like sweep oh why didn't she win all the awards why didn't she ran every
00:18:20.620 race and why didn't she beat them by like seconds which is very but she did get into the olympics
00:18:24.960 she got into the olympics she didn't win and that's because she's a trained swimmer that's
00:18:30.500 because she's been training to swim for as long as everyone else has it's what it makes sense
00:18:33.920 you got into the olympics chat i'm extremely tired of the trans top topic and i'm extremely
00:18:39.480 tired of people it feels like people debate trans more than there actually are trans people walking
00:18:44.040 around but i do think i love the topic because it really exposes people's double standards
00:18:49.260 to what is woke and what's not and what's acceptable and especially when the guy's like
00:18:53.680 how are you going to tell me i'm transgender it just points out all the flaws and all the faulty
00:18:58.880 logic with woke people but really like i'm sick of hearing about trans people it's just not any
00:19:03.260 Like, transphobics are just like, oh my god, but there's like three of you.
00:19:06.040 It's just like, do we really need to debate this every day?
00:19:08.080 She's been swimming at that time for her entire career.
00:19:11.500 But like I said, she didn't sweep.
00:19:12.920 She didn't have such a crazy advantage that she was performing way above the ranks of the other women.
00:19:19.720 So, even if it were shown that trans women had distinct advantages, that wouldn't be enough to move you to agree?
00:19:32.600 Yeah, because like I said, cis women could have an advantage on another cis woman.
00:19:37.380 So why should I care if a trans woman has an advantage on a cis woman
00:19:40.240 when a cis woman could also have an advantage on another cis woman?
00:19:43.860 Like the fact that they're trans doesn't really mean anything to me.
00:19:46.100 Like I said, having a genetic advantage can and is a part of sports.
00:19:51.560 Okay, I think I understand their reasoning, but I'm not positive.
00:19:55.560 I have a question for them.
00:19:56.980 Yes.
00:19:57.280 um so do you think that there could be like the women's group the man group and then people who
00:20:05.280 are trans have their own category who's the question for which one either or
00:20:09.760 i feel like those groups would just nail um alienate them even more and just like put them
00:20:19.340 off into a separate category because they don't belong in women or male they they are not being
00:20:24.500 put properly into the groups that they identify with do i don't know anything about sports as you
00:20:31.540 know from not even knowing what that means there there's the sea sea falcons or whatever but but
00:20:37.380 um my my question seahawks it's not that hard it's not that hard is then don't is aren't there
00:20:42.820 rule i thought there are rules against like shooting yourself up with steroids aren't there
00:20:46.740 yes so when you shoot yourself up with steroids that's wrong but a woman could shoot herself up
00:20:51.220 with testosterone mean you have a competitive advantage so that's why they don't do it right
00:20:57.460 that shooting yourself up with steroids gives you a competitor i would assume or else there
00:21:00.820 wouldn't be a rule against it i yes there's there is a rule against using ster performance enhancing
00:21:08.660 steroids but i don't think that's on the same level as hormone therapy no no that's not where
00:21:14.420 i was going with it so no i was going with it it's possible that there are certain things that one
00:21:18.340 can do to yield a performance advantage yes yes so shouldn't the idea be and again i'm just
00:21:26.180 thinking through this myself shouldn't the idea be that we want to level the playing field to
00:21:29.480 take out advantages for different people i think like artificial advantages is what you're trying
00:21:37.500 to say like just you have oh oh see why do they have to raise their hand like at school can you
00:21:43.420 just say hey let me talk now what the hell i thought she was waving to her friend speak i'm
00:21:48.120 I'm sorry, I thought you were waving to somebody.
00:21:50.980 Well, first of all, Seahawks.
00:21:53.140 Seahawks.
00:21:53.820 Seattle Seahawks.
00:21:54.620 They're a football team from Seattle in Washington.
00:21:58.180 Yes.
00:21:59.060 And they play – who's –
00:22:00.680 God, my chat is so low attention span.
00:22:03.120 All you got ADHD.
00:22:04.140 It's getting spicy in a bit.
00:22:05.500 She's going to get triggered soon, and you're going to be happy again.
00:22:07.400 We're going to laugh at them.
00:22:08.300 Let's have one little calm conversation for a bit.
00:22:10.500 It's going to get there.
00:22:10.920 You see that little spike in retention right here?
00:22:12.820 um no the person who throws the ball the qb who's the qb no but okay to go off her point
00:22:24.780 i like performance and drugs are obviously banned and it's because they enhance your performance
00:22:30.580 however however if you have enough money you can pay a coach to help advance your performance
00:22:36.720 you know what i mean like there's specific training facilities there's specific programs
00:22:41.120 it all costs money to access and by accessing those with money you also get advantage so it's
00:22:47.260 not like these hormones so we should it's not like because these hormones are only banned
00:22:52.480 because they're performance also extremely harmful so we should give if that logic calls we should
00:23:00.060 give all non-trans women extra coaching to make up for the deficiencies no that's not what i'm
00:23:06.600 saying i'm i'm furthering showing that there's already a discrepancy in sports if you're rich
00:23:13.480 and can pay for equipment training facilities a training coach you're going to do better than
00:23:18.360 someone who can't and i'm not like the russians and and like the like the russians in in uh in um
00:23:25.320 cycling and weightlifting yeah like most people in the olympics most people in the olympics have
00:23:29.400 access to really good trainers and really good training and if everyone in the world was had
00:23:34.520 access to that training I don't think the Olympics would look the same there
00:23:38.180 would be a lot of different people in there but they don't because because
00:23:41.720 inequities like I said are inherently in sports they're gonna be in sports no
00:23:45.900 matter what. Did that convince you? I kind of forgot what you said. So basically I do the
00:23:55.520 idea is you can't control there are always going to be certain people who
00:24:00.200 have advantages certain people have disadvantages and I don't want to
00:24:03.380 mischaracterize your argument but the idea is that
00:24:05.880 all right well you can come to the next one you go all right well i guess not that okay so there
00:24:13.560 we go there we go spicy time you're born to a rich family you have a wild loki appeared a wild
00:24:19.300 trans person okay chad we can okay breathe a little bit okay ready some spicy back and forth
00:24:23.840 whoa i'm mad i'm mad here we go advantages and if you're born to a poor family you'll have
00:24:29.680 disadvantages. So there are already inequities built into the system. So why worry about one
00:24:35.860 more inequity? I think that's what she was saying. I think the comparison between the
00:24:43.600 like wealth or someone or the advantages that they have are completely different than like
00:24:49.020 people getting things like hormones and stuff like genetically in them versus like being able
00:24:56.740 to pay for a facility or something um how does it make you feel if you compete against for example
00:25:04.160 uh in lacrosse yeah how does that make you feel if you compete against someone born biological
00:25:13.000 male do you think that's an like you said i don't want to put words in your mouth how's it making
00:25:17.040 you feel um i would think it'd be unfair especially if that male came from playing men's lacrosse um
00:25:25.080 Can I ask you what seemed like a really stupid question, but I'm going to ask anyway?
00:25:29.420 What's wrong with it being unfair?
00:25:31.120 Life is unfair.
00:25:31.960 Some people are born with, like, no legs.
00:25:35.160 I mean, that's true that life is unfair, but it's, like, it's the sport of lacrosse, specifically what I'm talking about, where there's the men's and the women's, and they're very – a lot of sports are very different, men and women-wise.
00:25:49.500 And, obviously, it's not always fair, but it's –
00:25:52.320 Look at them raising their hands, like, okay, my turn, teacher.
00:25:55.080 equally as fair when it's all women versus like the other side being all men
00:26:01.980 versus all men all women versus all women if that makes sense yeah it make it
00:26:07.140 makes sense to me but I don't not sure it makes sense to them hi you just
00:26:10.540 joined okay they're gonna say something in response to that if a girl went to a
00:26:18.580 middle or high school where they didn't have a big sports fund and she paid on
00:26:22.560 the male lacrosse team and then transfer to school that had a girls and boys lacrosse team and then
00:26:26.880 she chose to play on the girls team after playing on the boys team no one would care no one would
00:26:29.920 care because she's cis they only care because she's trans no one no one really cares about you
00:26:34.640 playing the man version of a sport if you're a girl and then you play the woman version later
00:26:40.400 they only care when you're trans yeah the transness the transness of this all is really what people
00:26:46.880 get strong up oh oh if that were to be the case where i played a male sport and then went to a
00:26:52.480 female sport i did not pump hormones in my body to genetically get me to a better place than
00:26:57.360 playing with males hi uh you do hi hi you do know that's what birth control is for right
00:27:05.120 um to pump estrogen but a lot of women to pump estrogen into your body so that you're actually
00:27:11.680 physically able to do things and the point of a competitive what birth control so i can nut
00:27:18.080 without kids having a baby is to be genetically better than the other person take the olympics
00:27:25.760 for example there are cis women take the olympics for example okay i can't okay what then the other
00:27:32.080 person take the olympics for example there are cis women that are better than other cis women
00:27:37.840 because they are genetically made to be that way and putting natural hormones in your body i hope
00:27:43.680 you know that you as a cis woman also has testosterone in your body as well as
00:27:47.820 estrogen and progesterone. How do you know she's a cis woman? Are you a cis
00:27:51.480 woman? Okay. Did you just assume her gender? I didn't know that. I did, I can tell.
00:28:02.160 As a- You have like a gaydar for cis women. I do because I'm not a cis woman
00:28:07.260 and I know what cis women look like and act like. And am I a cis- What?
00:28:13.520 do you see how if a straight guy said the exact same thing it'd be problematic but she's a les
00:28:20.580 woman um you're not a cis woman but if you're a woman that's okay no i'm a man okay hello what
00:28:27.380 are your pronouns um oh i need time to think all right no problem anyways sports that is the entire
00:28:42.780 purpose of competitive sports and you just trying to justify your transphobia with the fact of being
00:28:53.260 let's go finally competitive sports and you just trying to justify your transphobia with the fact
00:28:59.580 of being genetically better uh personally i think they should have their own league
00:29:07.900 that's just me though in like um all sports like a separate category and anybody yeah i think there
00:29:15.340 should be like male female trans woman trans man so are you yeah yes of course i do want to say
00:29:22.220 my opinion does not mean i'm transphobic at all what does that word even mean backtracking okay
00:29:27.580 okay okay okay okay what does that word even mean what does that word mean what do you mean what
00:29:33.980 What does that word mean?
00:29:35.360 Well, if I...
00:29:35.780 What do you mean?
00:29:36.720 What is that?
00:29:39.160 If she says to you,
00:29:40.400 if I say to you,
00:29:41.740 what is this?
00:29:42.620 And she says,
00:29:43.320 blah, blah, blah.
00:29:43.920 And I say,
00:29:44.520 what do you mean?
00:29:45.100 They give me the definition.
00:29:46.560 So like,
00:29:46.900 what is the definition of transphobia?
00:29:49.260 Transphobia is...
00:29:51.060 Means you're scared of them
00:29:51.920 like spooky spiders.
00:29:54.180 Arachnophobia is when you're scared of spiders.
00:29:56.740 Transphobia is when you don't agree
00:29:58.600 that you should be able to go
00:30:01.020 fucking destroy women in sports.
00:30:02.940 I'm not scared of trans people
00:30:05.140 And neither is this dude right here with the bomber jacket on
00:30:07.760 Phobia means like
00:30:10.060 Oh scary spider
00:30:11.080 Who the fuck is
00:30:11.900 Trans people
00:30:13.260 It just makes no sense
00:30:15.800 When you exclude trans people
00:30:19.100 Transphobia is when you do not believe
00:30:21.860 That trans people are really the identity
00:30:24.060 They identify with
00:30:25.120 Transphobia is hatred towards trans people
00:30:28.580 Is hatred towards people
00:30:30.980 And when you are
00:30:32.200 Ha ha ha ha bots all speak like this. It's like an algorithm
00:30:37.300 I with trans identify with phobia is hatred towards trans people
00:30:47.880 That's a transphobia is and thinking that trans athletes should not complete with
00:30:53.180 Regular athletes and their own separately. It's transphobic. Okay. So do you need okay?
00:30:56.620 the word regular is triggering, but the word cis is the same as regular.
00:31:01.840 Do you need all three of those criteria to be met?
00:31:04.620 No, no. No, you don't.
00:31:05.740 You need one?
00:31:06.680 Yes.
00:31:07.860 So if I believe, I just want to make sure, because you used a term,
00:31:11.560 and it's very important that we're all on the same page.
00:31:13.680 So if I believe that a person who was born a man who has not had bottom surgery,
00:31:18.720 who got arrested, should go into a woman's prison,
00:31:21.460 who should not go into a woman's prison?
00:31:23.120 Am I a transphobe?
00:31:23.840 that is a completely different question and i don't even know your reason it's excluding though
00:31:29.180 no same shit as sports i don't even know your reason for that well it's excluding so i'm trying
00:31:33.740 to figure out what the word transphobe means by asking me a completely hypothetical question
00:31:40.380 when i know by asking you well you gave me definition but it meets the first one so that
00:31:44.280 would seem under your definition it's transphobic you have a definition okay hold on hold on
00:31:49.500 Hold on this fits me out. Do you see how okay now she's pissed off. You see how easy it is to be transphobic
00:31:55.000 This guy was being respectful the whole time. He was actually trying to listen to these people. I'm getting bored in here by the
00:32:01.680 He's actually they're like stressing really trying to hear them out and already he's transphobic
00:32:08.360 You have a definition. Okay, hold on hold on
00:32:10.360 Period, I'm pissed off now
00:32:12.480 Hold on, this fizzes me off
00:32:13.980 We're not using a Google definition
00:32:15.360 Hold on, we're not using a Google definition to describe transphobia
00:32:18.900 Because this is exactly
00:32:19.940 So, you're not using a Google
00:32:21.480 What the fuck definition did you use then?
00:32:23.460 What are you talking about?
00:32:26.960 Okay, chill
00:32:27.760 Relax
00:32:28.260 Why are you so mature?
00:32:29.700 If you're a real man, be stoic
00:32:31.000 Okay, fine
00:32:31.740 Let's listen to these people, bro
00:32:32.860 Okay
00:32:34.540 We like
00:32:34.900 When you say white people can't be racist
00:32:36.640 And they pull the definition of racism
00:32:38.160 And they're like
00:32:38.560 Oh no, but here it says
00:32:39.680 many sentences blah blah blah google definition can literally not define something that you
00:32:45.220 literally have spent years studying because you're a gender studies major right
00:32:48.300 not a major no major i'm one of the world's foremost experts in gender studies not leading
00:32:59.860 i'm in the top 10 okay not leading then flex all these over the top 10 what's good not you're you're
00:33:07.280 not a leading world gender studious just a gender studious you're just a gender studious now i'm
00:33:11.840 gonna bloody you now i'm pissed off because literally but that proves that you've literally
00:33:16.560 studied literally literally like this is a field that can be not only have i studied it i've
00:33:23.120 outpublished virtually everybody in my field in a 10-month period true not that's true that's a
00:33:28.480 fact that's unfair so but but hold on but he's asking for your what you think it is because
00:33:35.760 Because you're the one who fucking started throwing that word around.
00:33:37.620 That's just you.
00:33:38.320 Also, eye on your shirt.
00:33:39.880 Like, ugh.
00:33:41.120 Ugh.
00:33:41.820 You see that?
00:33:42.340 Don't walk around with this.
00:33:43.520 Look at that garbage-ass shirt.
00:33:45.120 Disgusting.
00:33:45.800 Ew.
00:33:46.320 Ew.
00:33:46.780 Your drip sucks.
00:33:47.860 So.
00:33:48.440 No wonder you're trans.
00:33:49.900 Ah!
00:33:50.680 You're sorry.
00:33:51.320 You spent a lot of your lifetime studying this field.
00:33:53.680 Yes?
00:33:54.280 No, about three years.
00:33:56.640 Okay, but you spent multiple years studying this field.
00:33:58.240 Yes.
00:33:58.660 Would you say it's a complex field?
00:34:02.860 Yes or no?
00:34:03.540 but you published multiple pieces of literature on it
00:34:06.440 obviously it's not a one done thing
00:34:08.400 if I could just go onto Google
00:34:09.740 and Google a bunch of different definitions
00:34:12.040 and I could just
00:34:12.520 literally
00:34:13.820 what's the point of studying something
00:34:18.720 the point of studying something
00:34:19.740 is because it's nuanced
00:34:21.560 because it's rooted in a lot of history
00:34:24.220 Google Translate, Webster Dictionary
00:34:26.420 is falsifiable
00:34:27.400 that's not my point right now
00:34:29.880 that's not my point right now
00:34:31.200 my point right now is that you cannot take google definitions just use your feelings a cumulative
00:34:38.280 history of a nuanced topic and put it into one system in webster dictionary google dictionary
00:34:44.920 i thought google uses webster okay hi hi i'm gonna speak to these two directly okay when i called you
00:34:54.000 a transphobe i meant it and the reason is she doing a poem now reason i'm saying that is because
00:34:59.800 there's an underlying bias towards trans people that you really need to work on and i'm not what
00:35:05.160 is that what is an underlying bias yeah what do you mean by that i mean exactly what i said that
00:35:10.920 she has an underlying bias how what what just you can't just say what are you talking about it's not
00:35:16.200 very difficult to understand okay pretend i'm stupid what does it mean like so when i say i
00:35:24.440 When someone says they have an underlying bias, that could mean a subconscious bias.
00:35:30.080 It could mean that they don't act.
00:35:31.440 What does that mean?
00:35:33.000 Okay.
00:35:33.820 This is a perfect example of why college is a scam.
00:35:37.120 Don't send your kids there.
00:35:38.160 And if you're thinking about going to college, don't.
00:35:41.300 You're supposed to pretend that you're stupid.
00:35:43.980 Okay.
00:35:44.320 Here we go.
00:35:44.740 In other words, explain it in a way that is crystal clear so that anybody watching this will understand.
00:35:51.000 Okay.
00:35:51.300 because we have people watching this of all ages all everything who are trying to figure this out
00:35:56.520 for themselves i have a question what the fuck is the point of this like what is the goal of
00:36:00.640 what the fuck is i'm now i'm pissed off now i'm cursing it's to have a conversation it's to try
00:36:05.080 to hear the point of view you just want to throw in insults you just want to be pissed off and mad
00:36:09.520 and live in an emotional place he's going just based off of your arguments and you can't even
00:36:14.700 handle it college is a scam what is the goal of what what's the goal of this of us talking
00:36:19.780 like what what is your goal in doing all of this well my goal is to figure out if the lines you're
00:36:25.520 on are the lines that you should be on on the basis of the why is she why is she standing like
00:36:30.760 that have you ever stood like this this this is a bot stance right now she was holding that for
00:36:35.200 five seconds watch it watch it watch it watch it watch it when have you ever been in a conversation
00:36:39.060 and just did this and held it ready ready ready hold on hold on i want to do it too
00:36:44.760 to figure out if the lines you're on are the lines that you should be on on the basis of the
00:36:50.520 reasons you have so you don't even care about like adding to the narrative understanding social
00:36:57.320 consciousness or like social feeling sorts this question you just want to know if we get the
00:37:03.440 facts straight enough to be on the correct line no there's nothing to do with fact well it's a
00:37:06.440 little to do with fact but it doesn't really have to do with facts it's a reasoning so you're just
00:37:10.620 curious on individual reasoning I'm curious to know so let's say for
00:37:16.320 example I was standing here in the neutral and I heard these these reasons
00:37:21.420 and I heard this reasons and let's just say to the best extent possible I'm
00:37:26.300 sincere I'm honest I try to think for myself I'm not really well read but I'm
00:37:33.100 a little well read I listen to what you have to say I listen to what they have
00:37:37.140 to say where should i go i have no dog in the fight i'm trying to figure out what's true
00:37:44.740 because right now because because i don't know what you're adding to like the social
00:37:53.720 absolutely nothing i'm adding nothing so then why are you like because like this question this is
00:38:00.260 why college is a scam you see these goofy bots like raising their bill she's literally right
00:38:04.140 next to you just wait for her to finish speaking you're not they don't know how to communicate in
00:38:08.300 real life they only know how to talk in a classroom just opens up the floor for like
00:38:11.880 transphobic people to spread transphobic rhetoric so like why would you do that like what is the
00:38:16.560 point of this why why would you risk adding transphobia to the world when like you just
00:38:21.900 like didn't need to so do you think these questions are better off not talked about
00:38:26.060 no i think they should be better facilitated how could they better be facilitated than exactly what
00:38:32.440 he's doing he's being so rational so calm being genuine you're raising your voice you're getting
00:38:39.940 pissed off you're cursing he's there just trying to figure it out and get the most blanket arguments
00:38:45.960 and you're getting triggered what what what what could i do to facilitate the question better
00:38:50.480 well have a clearer goal in mind like like i've asked you like what's your goal your goal is
00:38:55.520 just nothing like no one's going to convince a transphobic person that trans women should be
00:38:59.780 able to compete in sports if they were gonna be convinced of that they were i should have already
00:39:04.100 been convinced by that it's been a big topic clearly i'm not gonna change my mind because
00:39:07.460 i'm not gonna be like oh yeah like so why did you come on here you're mad at the question why the
00:39:11.780 fuck did you stand here you're transphobic real quick like you don't have a good goal okay let
00:39:16.260 me ask you a question are you convinced that her her definition of transphobia is like to say that
00:39:22.660 the exclusion thing was the thing that got me like if her definition of transphobia is correct
00:39:28.580 no no it can be anything anybody wants it to be it can be a pastrami sandwiches if someone wants
00:39:32.820 it to be um i feel like i feel like yeah so she gave three criteria
00:39:44.740 anybody did you literally just say that now i'm gonna be mad can define anything the way they
00:39:48.900 want to define it no they can't define anything you can't define it as a pastrami sandwich
00:39:54.340 that's a joke like that's literally a joke like i'm sorry that's a joke okay why but why is me
00:40:00.780 declaring myself as a woman like what's the difference your shit probably looks like a
00:40:06.500 pastrami sandwich down there i don't get what the joke anybody can define anything the way they want
00:40:10.380 it there's no no that's not how words work words have meaning but she words have meaning but then
00:40:16.100 you can declare my truth and my identity for your gender i tried to look it up in google and you
00:40:20.740 told her that wasn't how to adjudicate the meanings of words my point in that was that
00:40:34.080 google definitions i said adequately describe and explain such a nuanced topic i didn't say
00:40:42.080 it can't be defined i just said that google google definitions wasn't gonna have a
00:40:46.320 Who does give the right definition, then?
00:40:48.000 Who, like, which definition is correct?
00:40:49.720 How can the...
00:40:50.420 Hold on.
00:40:51.180 I don't think there's ever the most concrete definitions
00:40:53.940 when it comes to nuanced topics.
00:40:55.840 However, you can't just be defining words however you want.
00:40:59.000 And you know that first.
00:40:59.700 But you can't define words, but who declares?
00:41:02.660 You could declare your agenda, but not words?
00:41:04.360 Why?
00:41:06.760 Colloquially, things mean things.
00:41:08.860 And colloquially, we all know what that shit means.
00:41:11.420 You cannot describe it as a pastrami sandwich.
00:41:13.480 There is very clear parameters that you can work within.
00:41:16.800 You might disagree on specific nuances, but the overall, like, you can't just describe anything as anything.
00:41:22.920 Words have meaning for a reason.
00:41:24.920 Like man and woman.
00:41:27.240 Yeah, trans women are women.
00:41:28.760 Oh my god.
00:41:30.740 Like, I don't, see, you keep trying to get people caught up.
00:41:33.380 What is your point?
00:41:34.380 Like, what is your point?
00:41:35.120 Why are you getting mad that your logic makes no sense?
00:41:38.640 Like, this is kind of a joke.
00:41:39.500 Because you could have said, I know your point.
00:41:42.340 You just want to try to catch us in a contradiction and you have literally no reason
00:41:46.860 I'm triggered that you caught me making no sense
00:41:49.940 This is bad because now you're exposing how my logic is faulty to be doing this whatsoever
00:41:55.780 You're trying that you're trying to you're trying to prove a gotcha
00:41:58.960 Oh, you have no idea what you're talking about silly liberals and you're silly trans people. Yeah
00:42:04.780 It works. That's why you blurred your face out instead of just not being a dick
00:42:09.060 How is he being a dick?
00:42:12.200 You were saying he was phobic
00:42:13.680 You were saying he was
00:42:15.120 Saying what the fuck are these questions?
00:42:17.020 I'm pissed off
00:42:17.620 He was just holding a mic
00:42:19.040 Chat, if he's a dick
00:42:21.560 Oh my, what am I?
00:42:24.140 What am I? I'm a drunk
00:42:25.720 Jesus
00:42:26.500 Look at him
00:42:31.640 Stick it to the plan
00:42:32.500 Just running back and forth
00:42:33.480 He's like, oh, whoa
00:42:34.700 This is good content
00:42:35.640 What's the point of it?
00:42:38.200 my point for coming over here and being participating in this is because i'm very
00:42:43.220 open-minded and i like hearing other people's points of views and i'm not very um i don't just
00:42:48.720 shut people down when they have an opinion and start calling them names i'm not here to promote
00:42:53.260 transphobia at all that does not say are you trans yo w five percent over here used to be eight
00:42:59.060 percent now my female audience is five percent but these are not i'm trying to circle him but
00:43:03.340 two white footballs right here it's always the threes that are on this side or not in no way
00:43:08.720 am i transphobic i'm just stating my opinion trying to have an equally conversation of a
00:43:14.100 of a debate where we can just say how we feel they've been so rational the whole time look at
00:43:19.060 this fucking bitch raising her hand again like it's a classroom let her finish and move on with
00:43:24.460 our lives i don't think anyone should be attacking anyone who do you think chavik who do you think
00:43:28.760 is more likely to have uh w for them and l for the the trans people who's more likely to have
00:43:36.340 a boyfriend and be in a happy relationship the w's or the l's more likely to be in a happy
00:43:43.240 relationship with a man did you agree with what she said oh absolutely you want to add or if not
00:43:48.040 that's okay too no but i think people's height people's emotions get really heightened during
00:43:53.380 Topics like this
00:43:58.360 Just because emotions are heightened doesn't mean points shouldn't be listened to because I see both of you
00:44:03.520 Say it louder for the trans in the back
00:44:09.580 You're turning to each other you're whispering you're laughing and I see both of you don't make that face because I literally see what you're doing
00:44:14.940 I'm not an idiot and second of all you are an idiot and also look how you're attacking and they've just been like
00:44:19.760 I just want to talk. I just want to have a conversation
00:44:21.820 like they just want they come to attack woke people are the worst at having civil discussion
00:44:28.160 they're incapable of it they're told that they're supposed to listen just based off their first
00:44:32.300 emotion they're told that they can't be wrong everyone else is phobic everybody else is racist
00:44:37.900 i'm good i'm right and they're incapable of even talking without getting triggered
00:44:43.480 this is why college is a scam well i can probably just describe transphobia um because
00:44:49.980 Do you not agree with her definition?
00:44:51.760 Oh, I completely agree.
00:44:52.580 I'm just adding to it.
00:44:53.640 So transphobia is systemic.
00:44:56.200 There is a system set in place to put trans people down, to kill them, to put them in prison, and to completely eradicate them.
00:45:04.640 Period.
00:45:05.560 And in your disagreement with trans women not being able to compete in...
00:45:10.560 Someone said why the ugly one's the most angry.
00:45:12.400 Because they're ugly.
00:45:13.220 And so instead of being ugly, instead of accepting and trying to improve, they just pick trans, they pick woke,
00:45:18.360 and they pick the moral right men are bad bad bitches are evil and programmed and they're phobic
00:45:24.580 they need ugly bitches need to be feminist ugly bitches need to be trans and woke instead of just
00:45:31.320 being ugly that's why they're so angry because deep down it's not really about the system the
00:45:36.380 systemic problems they're just upset with their life they're not in happy relationships they're
00:45:42.140 annoying to be around they don't have a personality besides their beliefs that are really just fucking
00:45:46.560 simple and everybody else in college has and they're jealous of the fact that these bad bitches
00:45:51.120 on the other side those blonde girls are probably in happy relationships they don't get triggered
00:45:56.020 they don't have time to do that they're just happy and smiling they probably got good boyfriends
00:46:00.740 women's sports is boosting that systemic uh idealism and when i say that you're a transphobe
00:46:08.700 that's something in yourself that you do need to work on because that can you define that
00:46:13.100 can you define that what underlying no no that i got from what you said i thought your explanation
00:46:17.680 was excellent but transphobe because i got her definition what's yours transphobe is what i said
00:46:23.060 so transphobe is someone that is adding to a system to put other trans individuals down
00:46:28.480 whether it be um conscious or unconscious there's some sort of bias that you definitely do need to
00:46:34.380 work through and actually listen to something we're saying it doesn't matter if we're getting
00:46:38.300 heightened in emotion because we're passionate about something that should make you want to
00:46:42.400 listen more and it shouldn't make you know that that's the dumbest shit ever heard the fact that
00:46:46.160 you can't handle your emotions i should just listen more to your garbage smirk and act like
00:46:49.880 oh my goodness you contradicted yourself la la la la okay so let me ask you a question so you're
00:46:54.420 strongly agree you're cheating you're off the line but that's okay you're strongly agree and
00:46:59.660 you're strongly agree what would it take you to move to the agree line nothing let me go for i'm
00:47:05.160 gonna go one two three because i haven't you asked me this already and i told you nothing okay
00:47:09.280 you literally what would it take you to move to the agree line absolutely nothing exactly told
00:47:14.420 you absolutely nothing would you say absolutely nothing or nothing absolutely nothing i just said
00:47:20.000 what i had to say that's why they blurred out their faces i would be willing to because they
00:47:24.060 walked away or they probably emailed afterwards and realized they sounded stupid these people
00:47:28.440 have no conviction they'll get to be emotional and say that you need to learn from me but they
00:47:32.540 can't even finish a video without requesting their face be blurred no like they just act based on
00:47:39.000 emotion and when you do afterwards when you calm down you realize how dumb you sounded revise my
00:47:43.420 opinion with you know new information that comes out new studies new statistics saying if there
00:47:49.160 is actually a true advantage that trans women have over cis women in sports but as of right now
00:47:56.240 there's nothing that could that is prominent like as in what we know that would change my position
00:48:01.740 right literally you should be the one to facilitate this conversation when you don't even care about
00:48:06.200 sports i know nothing about sports so you don't care about sports so this is that's such a stupid
00:48:11.460 question you she's just mad now the overall debate is not about sports it's about who should compete
00:48:16.780 in sports you don't even know the seahawks are to decide and to know that men are stronger than
00:48:21.540 women that's a dumb argument you just made why well that's not entirely true well wait a second
00:48:28.000 let me let me answer your question first i actually happen to know a lot about one sport
00:48:32.080 but it's a very fringe sport.
00:48:34.020 But you don't care about sports.
00:48:36.200 Sports.
00:48:36.720 Correct.
00:48:37.380 Well, I don't care about any sports.
00:48:39.340 Literally sports.
00:48:41.220 Do you care about trans women?
00:48:42.660 Exactly.
00:48:45.880 What do you mean?
00:48:46.800 Do you care about trans women and trans women issues?
00:48:49.600 Like, what do you mean?
00:48:51.160 And protecting trans women.
00:48:52.380 What do you mean?
00:48:53.560 It's a straightforward question.
00:48:55.180 That's actually not a straightforward question.
00:48:56.660 Do you care about trans women?
00:48:59.300 Do you care about the issues they face?
00:49:01.340 Do you care about being a good ally to trans women?
00:49:03.480 Do you care about trans women?
00:49:06.620 I was up with you until you used the word ally.
00:49:09.060 I care about...
00:49:11.000 So the answer to the first question is yes.
00:49:14.280 And the answer to the second question...
00:49:15.780 It depends what you mean.
00:49:17.300 It depends on what I mean by ally?
00:49:18.640 Yes.
00:49:19.420 What do you think ally means?
00:49:21.880 As someone who's...
00:49:22.820 I'm not a leading...
00:49:23.520 Someone who's fighting in a war together?
00:49:25.860 Top.
00:49:26.200 Some of you don't know what ally means.
00:49:27.500 But someone in the field.
00:49:29.180 What do you think ally means?
00:49:30.080 So, let me just say, often we use words that we think we know what other people mean by them.
00:49:36.560 I know what the word ally means.
00:49:37.880 I'm asking.
00:49:38.600 Right, right.
00:49:39.380 Because allies, an easy word to understand.
00:49:43.300 Ally means.
00:49:45.020 At your biblical age.
00:49:46.920 55.
00:49:48.180 Biblical.
00:49:48.960 Are you telling.
00:49:49.800 Okay.
00:49:50.420 See how there's insulting right now?
00:49:53.000 Your biblical age.
00:49:53.860 That's all they got.
00:49:54.760 Bitch, your shirt needs ironing.
00:49:58.140 You're ugly.
00:49:58.660 you're wearing a beanie in the summer and a hat you got no drip no guy wants you you're trans
00:50:03.300 because you're ugly out of here what do you mean biblical it means you're older than the bible do
00:50:08.180 you really not know what ally means not that old do you really not know what ally means it depends
00:50:12.340 what you mean if she just tweeted at him in real life she was loading that up when they're in that
00:50:16.020 conversation i'm gonna get him with that at your biblical age i'm being passive aggressive take
00:50:20.420 your beanie off you mean different people mean different things by ally then come back to me
00:50:25.540 like it doesn't mean somebody willing to yeah i'm asking you what do you think like what's your
00:50:29.460 definition of ally okay i i'm i'm more than happy yes i will answer that question let me just we'll
00:50:35.780 go back to claim you have my word i will answer that question so i'm just gonna wrap up you have
00:50:40.420 my word so you guys there's nothing to get you to change your mind and absolutely nothing i want to
00:50:44.900 make sure is there anything that would get you to to move to the slightly either to the strongly
00:50:49.700 disagree or to the slightly disagree like is there any piece of evidence that you would have
00:50:53.860 to hear or reason or argument i think i would definitely be open to changing my opinion or even
00:50:59.940 just hearing other people out w five percent right now she's being understanding she's not being a
00:51:05.620 cunt looking nice and just being a nice girl so what would it look like for you to move oh you
00:51:11.380 have to play by the rules of the game which means you have to stand on a line yeah so what would it
00:51:16.900 take for you to move to the slightly disagree um evidence reason data like what would that look
00:51:24.900 like i'm not sure but i would like to note that i think for a trans woman to compete in women's
00:51:32.420 sports she has a biological advantage and then for a trans man to compete in men's sports she
00:51:38.100 has a biological disadvantage so i just want to make that point that i do think that's something
00:51:44.660 I mean, they are like very blueprint snow buddies right here.
00:51:47.860 Head to toe in H&M with the Starbucks going right to class.
00:51:52.480 The blonde, the da, da, da, da, da.
00:51:54.680 She plays lacrosse.
00:51:55.660 She's very waspy.
00:51:57.640 ...thing to consider.
00:51:59.160 And...
00:51:59.560 They don't fuck with me.
00:52:00.420 These bitches never liked me.
00:52:01.580 Sorry.
00:52:01.900 I'm saying W5%.
00:52:02.900 I know damn well she would never fuck with me.
00:52:04.800 And I don't agree.
00:52:06.780 I don't, I don't, you know what?
00:52:08.360 We got nothing to talk about, me and her.
00:52:09.740 With attacking people personally, whether it's that he's old
00:52:14.360 or that i'm sitting here smiling i don't think that anything to do with this conversation has to
00:52:20.920 do with how you treat other people and if you're going to sit here and say you accept all people
00:52:26.120 then you need to sit here and accept all people i don't accept bigots i don't accept accept race
00:52:32.520 see how dumb this is she's like victimizing herself by saying no one accepts me and then
00:52:36.600 also saying i don't accept all people old people yeah old people like you because you're an ass
00:52:42.680 I accept older people who are-
00:52:44.240 You're an ass?
00:52:45.160 Like, what?
00:52:46.120 Then leave the fucking game, dummy.
00:52:47.800 Why are you standing on the line participating
00:52:49.400 and all you got is insults?
00:52:50.820 All you got is like basic low-level tweets
00:52:52.960 that get hit in any way.
00:52:54.560 You're just basically like a ratio NBA young boy
00:52:57.100 trans version of real life.
00:52:58.900 Open-minded like my parents, per se,
00:53:00.500 who are actually older than you.
00:53:02.160 And I accept people who are willing
00:53:06.500 to actually open their minds up.
00:53:09.360 Yo, thanks a lot, Trevor.
00:53:10.640 W Trevor in the chat right now.
00:53:12.460 I just gave $100 after this.
00:53:13.840 You should watch If I Were the Devil by Paul Harvey.
00:53:15.460 It was made in 1965 and it's all true.
00:53:16.780 It's only three minutes long.
00:53:17.640 Put in my Discord link in the description.
00:53:18.860 That's where I put all my reaction videos.
00:53:20.160 I got a lot more reaction videos for today.
00:53:22.340 So put it there and I'll click it maybe tomorrow
00:53:24.120 or maybe later today.
00:53:24.880 We'll see.
00:53:25.120 We'll see.
00:53:25.320 We'll see.
00:53:27.500 Okay.
00:53:28.420 So you, you accept, you, you, you are accepting of people
00:53:31.840 who are willing to open their minds,
00:53:33.840 but yet you are not willing to open your mind.
00:53:35.800 Yeah, that's the biggest hypocrisy in the woke movement
00:53:39.360 is that they are victimizing themselves saying that
00:53:41.560 no one accepts me and then also are the least accepting people they're the most inclusive
00:53:47.640 while complaining they're the most exclusive while complaining about how this is there's
00:53:51.940 no inclusivity i hate that bro i hate that shit i'm not willing to open my mind to be
00:53:56.520 a bigoted piece of shit no see they think they're right because anyone who disagrees
00:54:01.680 with them is a bigoted piece of shit is an ass is biblical anyone who does not have the
00:54:07.940 same opinion as you is a bigoted trans woman should not be able to compete in women's sports
00:54:13.240 has transphobic beliefs point blank period okay trans women chat wl should trans women be able
00:54:21.360 to compete in women's sports w means yes l means no you're all fucking transphobic bigots according
00:54:27.140 to this bitch standing with their guitar wl should trans women compete in women's sports
00:54:33.780 are women therefore they compete in women's sport like that's really just like the end
00:54:38.140 of conversation like there's really no like see they don't want to listen they don't want to have
00:54:42.420 any conversation they're stuck in their ways you know what and you see all these l's you see all
00:54:46.220 these l's this bitch took an l because she couldn't even fucking put her face in it they think they're
00:54:50.080 so right they're saying that anybody who disagrees with them is a bigoted piece of shit and they
00:54:53.760 can't even put their fucking face in it no they cannot speak with conviction they're frauds if
00:55:00.400 gonna yell and have insults the whole time and then you're too fucking pussy to even put your
00:55:04.740 face in it shut the fuck up and everyone here saying l chat you know that all of you are
00:55:09.580 transphobic every single one of you is transphobic you're all bigoted pieces of shit you're all
00:55:14.560 assholes just like me what's up assholes hey what's up my bigots what's up my biggers
00:55:20.660 shut up like you know like the boys and the girls and the testosterone no like it's all based in
00:55:28.400 transphobia so i would it's not about like me believing in facts it's not about me listening
00:55:33.040 to the research it's literally just called like i'm saying this line because i refuse to be
00:55:36.580 transphobic also you never answered my question see how dumb they are they have their opinions
00:55:40.660 because they just don't want to be called transphobic that's as far as the argument goes
00:55:44.440 i promised you i would look at all the hells in the chat goofy censored bitches look how dumb you
00:55:49.000 sound yelling insults the whole time too pussy to put your face in i could still roast you anyway
00:55:54.000 you're a three you're a four you're not in happy relationships obviously obviously because the way
00:55:58.500 you sound and everyone there's 10,000 11,000 people watching the stream right now on a
00:56:02.260 saturday night all of them are saying l to your arguments how the fuck you feel
00:56:05.540 promise you have my word but i just
00:56:10.880 because if i do this we're gonna wrap it up i promise you the moment this is over you have my
00:56:16.960 word i want to talk to you about biology who them yes these two the one that's on her phone and not
00:56:22.440 actually paying attention to me because she doesn't respect me you were calling him transphobic
00:56:27.160 and now you're mad at respect you see how they make no absolutely no sense yeah because you're
00:56:32.460 on your phone you don't respect me you were just insulting them shut the fuck up so no because i
00:56:38.640 deserve to be respected no you don't you do not deserve respect you've been yelling insults the
00:56:42.540 whole time this is another biggest contradiction in the woke movement they demand respect without
00:56:48.720 thinking to have to earn it they could be garbage people yell at insults say like nba young boy
00:56:54.740 twitter account level insults you're biblically old shut up and then when you don't want to listen
00:56:59.520 to them you're not even respecting me you're transphobic you were just saying ass bigoted
00:57:04.580 piece of shit you're fat you have an ugly shirt you're wearing a beanie in the summer you got
00:57:09.440 zero drip you're trans because you're ugly and you've just been insulting the whole time and
00:57:13.900 demand respect this is the woke brainwashing they feel like they deserve respect and they don't have
00:57:19.320 to earn it you have to earn respect simple facts that gen z does not understand and most woke
00:57:26.060 people will never get through their fucking trans skull fuck and paid attention to no i will not
00:57:32.700 take that blatant disrespect absolutely not you want to bring up biology right i hope you know
00:57:37.560 there's more than just xx and xy chromosome variations there are xxxy there are xxy and
00:57:44.300 actually a black woman hey another wild strands appeared who is biologically female yo i feel
00:57:52.200 bad for her right here she's like oh god am i this is who i this is my side has xxy chromosomes
00:57:59.460 and then was banned from playing sports in the women's category although which sport it was
00:58:04.860 track and field. Although she is a cisgender woman born with anatomically female bodily organs,
00:58:13.460 she was said that there was a biological advantage. So are you saying that anyone born
00:58:19.740 with a different chromosomal variation, even though they are cis, are not allowed to compete
00:58:24.280 in sports either? I'm going to ask you a question. Where did you come from? Who are you?
00:58:33.960 Wait was that who are you? Where did you come from? Where did the woman who was right there stand? Where did she go?
00:58:46.380 It is well talk to your school talk to your school. They're making us leave talk to her right there
00:58:52.520 i actually don't want this to come back so i will not be speaking about this
00:58:56.120 because like i said this is a joke you don't care about trans women okay this is a joke but
00:59:01.300 this bitch sat here for 40 minutes being asked to wrap up we have to wrap up we have to wrap up
00:59:07.700 i can just keep talking a little bit okay just keep on talking that no one wants to listen to
00:59:13.640 you i can just keep talking who the fuck cares what you think you can i can't this is your i
00:59:21.260 didn't want this to end this is the boss this is the boss she's gonna still stand on the line
00:59:30.160 no one cares about you
00:59:31.960 ah woke people man they're funny man hey are you funny y'all yeah i know i'm calling you ugly
00:59:40.200 shit like that no no no no i'm supposed to like have higher level more stoic uh just go with
00:59:45.100 their arguments okay fine but the bottom line is like you guys are goofy you're goofy i
00:59:51.240 demand respect respect has to be earned you don't just get it you can't just be insulting you can't
00:59:58.100 just stand there with a wrinkly ass shirt and expect people to love you because they're trans
01:00:01.980 you gotta earn it gen z woke people think that by being a minority they them trans by with identity
01:00:10.000 politics that they could just earn respect because of how much of a fucking oppressed minority they
01:00:15.040 are just for the fact that they're a they them queer black poc that they just get respect because
01:00:20.640 Oh, you're not even but you're probably racist. No, it has nothing to do with that. You're just annoying